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The Root Cause of Gun Violence
If Obama & Co. are helpless to prevent gang warfare, what are they doing trying to disarm the law-abiding?
(Page 2 of 2)
Obama said in Minneapolis on Monday, “But we also know that if we’re going to solve the problem of gun violence, then we’ve got to look at root causes as well.” Obama then went on to talk about more power for Washington. More government spending for mental health, more federal spending for the local government responsibility for cops on the beat, and confirmation of a director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Ah yes, the need for another federal bureaucrat is really a root of the problem of gun violence.
Rather, Habeeb explained the roots of gun violence in America:
About 20,000 people live in my hometown of Oxford, Miss., and there are probably twice as many guns. Folks own handguns, shotguns, rifles, and all kinds of weapons I’ve never even heard of. But I can’t remember the last murder story in the local paper.
That’s because my town has lots of guns, but lots of fathers, too.
Chicago doesn’t have a gun problem; it has a father problem….
When young men don’t have fathers, they don’t learn to control their masculine impulses. They don’t have fathers to teach them how to channel their masculine impulses in productive ways.
When young men don’t have fathers, those men will seek out masculine love — masculine acceptance — where they can find it. Often, they find it in gangs.
In my little town, if some boys tried to form a gang and do violence on our streets, the fathers wouldn’t bother calling the sheriff. Those boys would face a gang of fathers hell bent on establishing order in our community. And if that meant using physical force, so be it.”
But the breakdown of the family in America is the result of too much government — liberal welfare policy giving away a trillion dollars every year to single mothers with children. And the answer to that is more limited government, providing welfare assistance only in return for work from the able bodied. Oops, that was a Reagan idea. Can’t have that.
Reducing Gun Violence — More Freedom, Not
Less
President Obama in Minneapolis also
talked about Senate hearings to address gun violence, where former
Congresswoman Gabby Giffords and her husband were the first to
testify. Obama complained, “if we still had a 10-round limit on
magazines, for example, the gunman who shot Gabby may never have
been able to inflict 33 gunshot wounds in 15 seconds. Fifteen
seconds, 33 rounds fired. Some of the six people who lost their
lives that day in Tucson might still be with us.”
But if someone in that parking lot crowd where Giffords was shot by another crazed gunman had a concealed carry permit, and was armed, some of the six people who lost their lives that day would have been far more likely to still be with us. For the gunman could have been shot in self-defense far more quickly than waiting for him to run out of more limited magazine reloads, or more guns to pull out, or counting on him to follow the law on gun magazine limits. Murder was already illegal that day, to no effect.
Obama referenced in Minneapolis an ongoing “epidemic of gun violence.” But that is another Obama delusion. Gun violence is in long-term decline, with the homicide rate cut in half since the early 1990s. That is due to the explosion of conceal and carry permits, increased prison terms for violent offenders, and the aging of the population, as the more mature commit far fewer crimes than the young. Moreover, mass shootings as in Newtown, having peaked in 1929, are in even longer term decline.
If we want to reduce gun violence further, more concealed carry permits are the answer, as John Lott demonstrated in his breakthrough book, More Guns, Less Crime. Mass school shootings would be further reduced by paying teachers bonuses to take concealed carry permit training, and bringing their concealed guns to school to be available for self-defense.
And extending welfare reform to all federal means tested welfare programs, requiring work by the able bodied for welfare, would begin to address fatherlessness as the root cause of gun violence.
Photo: UPI
About the Author
Peter Ferrara is Director of Entitlement and Budget Policy at the Heartland Institute, General Counsel of the American Civil Rights Union, Senior Fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis, and Senior Policy Advisor on Entitlements and Budget Policy at the National Tax Limitation Foundation. He served in the White House Office of Policy Development under President Reagan, and as Associate Deputy Attorney General of the United States under President George H.W. Bush.
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MelvinNC| 2.6.13 @ 7:02AM
This has nothing to do with the obvious. But has everything to do with ideology. Using the police powers of government to force feed an ideology down those who dissent throats.
Having the absolute power to take and break a person(s) belief and convictions.
Barrack Obama has harnessed the anger and hate of the Left to build a false consensus that will allow him to craft legislation and or executive orders to destroy his and the left's ideological enemies.
The Left doesn't care a rats ass about those kids at SandyHook or anyone else's kids for that matter, they're just and end to justify the means. Kids are getting murdered on an industrial scale in Chicago and no one in the administration bats an eye.
So we can take out of the equation of, "But it's for the Children." Only foolish naive white folks believe that crap from the government.
Ideologically Obama has broken the spirit and the will to fight of the Republican Party Establishment, not that he had to fight that hard to begin with that bunch. But nevertheless he has beaten them to his will.
Now Obama is coming after the Conservatives with gun control and Immigration. Now we are engaged in a battle of the wills of Progressivism/Socialism/Fascism vs Conservationism.
But the larger question is. How far are Conservatives willing to go to win this ideological war? And make no mistake about this, we are in a civil war.
Jack in Wi| 2.6.13 @ 7:13AM
Obama isn't going after the gangs. He is going after the law abiding of all races. If there are reports of a shooting a lot of policemen head the other direction, especially in the ghetto. They want to be sure to get there after it is over. The black sheriff in Milwaukee, David Clark has come out and said that people need to arm themselves and be proficient in firearms. If you have to wait for the police it may be too late. Of course Clark has been attacked by the usual suspects.
Alan| 2.6.13 @ 7:45AM
Any police officer will tell you that when a crime is being committed against you that YOU are the first responder, not the cop. Yes Melvin, we are in a civil war.
Anthony| 2.6.13 @ 1:43PM
Indeed, as in Miami, when seconds count, the police are only a latte away.
This is about disarming America, not gun violence. If Obozo and the Ds want to stem gun violence, enforce existing laws and make it a CAPITAL OFFENSE to commit a violent crime with a firearm. That means the death penalty.
Our government is at war with the American people.
markenoff| 2.6.13 @ 4:12PM
Make it illegal for an African American between the ages of 18 and 30 to be in possession of a firearm. Ten year federal prison sentence, no parole. They are most likely to be the perpetrators and victims of gun violence so let's pass this law to protect them from themselves. After all, if someone is willing to infringe on the 2nd Amendment rights of all Americans they certainly shouldn't object to infringing on the 2nd Amendment rights of those most like to cause and be effected by gun violence.
Von Mises Jr| 2.6.13 @ 10:14AM
If we do not fight, Melvin, then we shall be slaves. Let's take NYC for an example. Ninny Bloomberg went after smokers moving them out of restaurants and offices into the street and then to the parks before banning cigarettes (Walter E. Williams "cigarette Nazis" analogy of progressivism or slow boiling a frog). He went after trans-fats and salt in eateries. Then he went after sugary drinks larger than 16oz.
Well now some NYC parents are shocked that while their 14 year old daughters who cannot have a cigarette after post-coital bliss can get rubbers and birth control pills from the High School Nurse. But it gets worse. Last year High School teenagers received 12.7K doses of Plan B that is abortifacients. So while their underage daughter cannot have a 24oz soda, the Public Schools provided her an abortion without parental notification or consent.
So it is not about salt, trans-fats, sugary drinks, cigarettes or guns. It is about bureaucrats taking complete rights, including parental rights, from you and giving it to them.
This is why people fought to the death against communism and fascism.
fmm| 2.6.13 @ 1:36PM
The democratic party has supported eugenics in many forms for a long time. Murders in Chicago and other cities are just another form of this ideology and is completly acceptable to them.
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 7:07AM
Its like with the Death Penalty.
100 years ago it was used commonly for Horse Thieves, Bandits, Rapists, Spies, and Duh, Murder.
In 1933 the guy who killed the Mayor of Miami, and almost killed FDR(Quick, who would have become President!)was executed a short 33 days after his crime, after a fair and impartial trial of course.
But you had the Psychologists, Religious Leaders, arguing for "Common Sense" Death Penalty Reform, "We'll only stop executing petty thieves" they said, and the Camel's Dick was under the Tent, and now even Rapists have a Surpreme Court President protecting them from the Surpreme Penalty..
Heck, in Atlanta, Capital of one of the supposedly "Red" States, a few years back, a Cereal Rapist on trial escaped, bludgened a 90 lb female "Deputy", Shot and Killed the Judge, Court Reporter, another Deputy, and an INS agent, and got......................
"Life" in prison.
I think he got out last year.
OK, he's still in jail, raping other rapists, so there are some advantages...
And this "Universal" background Fee-Ass-Co will just make guns like drugs, driving up the cost, and prodding the real criminals to go the cheaper route, just stealing what they need..
Frank
Jack in Wi| 2.6.13 @ 7:21AM
Dreck: It wasn't the mayor of Miami. It was the mayor of Chicago Anton Cermak who was shot while with FDR just after his election in 1932. They were inMiami at the time. The killer was Gueseppi Zangara a unemployed bricklayer. Roosevelt wasn't in office yet. His vice president on his ticket was Jack Garner of Texas. I assume he would become President but don't know the statutes from that time. If the Electoral College hadn't met yet, anyone could have been elected.
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 8:12AM
Ahh Jack(off), still in tears that your Crush Aaron(Jewish name BTW)Rogers couldn't get the Fudge-Packers past the Wildcard Round...
And if we're gonna be snippy, it was actually February 1933, when you were but another Swimmer in your Dad's Scrotum(some things never change, Jack and Scrotums).
The Electrical College had already met, Herbert Heever would have remained President until March 4th, and ummm I'll defer to your Surperior Homo-Ness, I mean Aryan knowledge of Constitutional Issues..
Speaking of Constitutionals, I've gotta take my Daily...
Frank "Regular as the SEC winning BCS Titles" Drackman
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 11:03AM
I believe that the old phrase was: Tried before Breakfast, and Hanged before Dinner Time.
Occam's Tool| 2.7.13 @ 5:42PM
Fudgepacking IS what Jack is all about. That and "Madam Mambo's House of Deevine Inspiration"---
Gun Violence is due to three things (overwhelmingly): untreated Mentally Ill people, drug abusers, and psychopaths. These are people who will kill in other ways, if necessary.
Lawrence Kennon | 2.6.13 @ 7:11AM
You wrote:
"Moreover, mass shootings as in Newtown, having peaked in 1929, are in even longer term decline."
I understood and hugely agreed with most of what you had to say in this excellent article. However I do not understand what statistic or source you are referencing in the above comment. That is my only criticism of your artice - the above needs more explanation for those, like myself, who have no idea what you are talking about.
lwk
http://free2beinamerica2.wordpress.com
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 8:31AM
While I can't summon which article or study was referred to by Mr. Ferrara, I have seen that 1929 reference in the flurry of coverage during the last six weeks on the topic of shootings and mass murder.
If I recall it accurately, 1929 was the year with the most mass shootings. Assuming this to be correct (it was, after all, the year of the infamous St. Valentine's Day Massacre), it should not be surprising, given the organized crime that grew and flourished in the wake of Prohibition was making the 20s roar . Thompson submachine guns and Browning Automatic Rifles were in the hands of criminals, and rattling gun battles between criminals and/ or the police were not uncommon events in both rural and urban areas.
Of course, the federal government passed laws which highly regulated (to the point of banning) automatic weapons in the mid 1930s (more than a half decade after its peak), and there's been hardly any gun violence or increased federal control since that intervention.
Jack London| 2.6.13 @ 9:33AM
Do you think we'd be better off with lots of machine guns around then?
Jacob McCandles| 2.6.13 @ 10:29AM
Not for me to decide what gun you are better off with. The framers didn't give a rat's a__ about what gun a hunter needed. They understood that a well-armed citizenry was essential to a free society. How free is an unarmed woman forced to submit to the wishes of an armed intruder? You statists who love government power and abhor the individual lose the gun argument on basic principles, history, facts, and common sense.
irish19| 2.6.13 @ 11:34AM
FYI, there are something like 250,000 legally owned machine guns in private hands right now. The last time one of them was used in the commission of a crime was in the late 20s or early 30s.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 1:03PM
“Do you think we'd be better off with lots of machine guns around then?”
The appropriate question should not be whether we’d be better off with lots of machine guns. The appropriate question should be do the actions enacted by the federal government bear any relationship to solving the perceived problem, or was it a power and/ or money grab (and is it constitutional for it to do so)?
Even though gun violence had already begun to diminish after the reported peak year of 1929 seven years before the common sense legislation passed, FDR signed it anyway. It did not outlaw machine guns, but it highly regulated and taxed their possession. Like many other things (including prosperity), when you tax it, you get less of it, so there are now fewer machine guns in civilian hands.
Nevertheless (and after reams of additional legislation further regulating/restricting firearms) , the alarmist left is still shrieking 77 years later about arms which shouldn’t be in civilian hands (which is why nobody believes you when you say you only want to ban high capacity magazines and assault rifles).
markenoff| 2.6.13 @ 4:25PM
Do you think we'd be better off without the trillions of dollars spent subsidizing illegitimacy in the inner city and destroying the African American family?
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 9:36AM
I am for More Guns, with 100 Round Magazines for Obama's #1 Supporters, over there in Chicago.
No reason.
Pecos Pete| 2.6.13 @ 10:08AM
Common Sense needs no Reason.
markenoff| 2.6.13 @ 4:24PM
".....hardly any gun violence or increased federal control since that intervention."
Assume you're referring to the The National Firearms Act of 1934 and Federal Firearms Act of 1938. Yes, no increased federal control since then.
Except, of course, the Gun Control Act of 1968 (Pub.L. 90–618, 82 Stat. 1213). And the 1986 Amendments to the Gun Control Act (FOPA). And the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, (H.R. 3355, Pub.L. 103–322) of 1994. But oher than that, no federal control.
To make things easy the ATF published their 243 page "Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide"
http://www.atf.gov/publication.....5300-4.pdf
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 5:12PM
You are correct, sir, or as I elaborated further down the thread:
"Nevertheless (and after reams of additional legislation further regulating/restricting firearms) , the alarmist left is still shrieking 77 years later about arms which shouldn’t be in civilian hands (which is why nobody believes you when you say you only want to ban high capacity magazines and assault rifles)."
Gary B| 2.6.13 @ 7:12AM
Government does not want solutions. It wants problems and demons.
irish19| 2.6.13 @ 11:35AM
Bureaucracies exist to manage problems not to solve them.
fmm| 2.6.13 @ 1:43PM
Maybe they exist to cause the problems which need to be managed and allow them to take more power for themselves in the bargain.
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 7:13AM
Oh yeah, the Cereal Rapist didn't go through any background check, waiting period, or mental health check when he stole the Deputy's gun, he just took it, same with the INS agent's gun, Shit-Fire, if there's any group I'd consider dis-arming its Cops. OK, I"m going all "A Modest Proposal" here, Cops need guns, cause what else are they gonna do? Call a Cop?
Oh yeah, my Question,
"Who would have become President if FDR had been killed in the 1933 Assassination Attempt?"
It's a Trick Question...No fair Googling
Frank
Moe Blotz| 2.6.13 @ 10:48AM
What kind of cereal did he rape? Fruit Loops or Cheerios?
irish19| 2.6.13 @ 11:36AM
You beat me to it, Moe.
markenoff| 2.6.13 @ 4:26PM
That gun shold have been equipped with an electronic fingerprint device that would only allow the deputy to fire it.
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 4:52PM
She wasn't beat almost to death with the gun.
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 4:52PM
do such devices even exist?
irish19| 2.6.13 @ 9:39PM
No, they do not. Except, of course, in the fervid brains (and I use the term loosely) of proggies.
Stuart Koehl| 2.6.13 @ 7:31AM
Because of their connections with narco-terrorism, gangs should be classified as terrorist organizations and made subject to the Patriot Act, which would soon result in their suppression and/or dissolution. Treating this as a form of criminal activity ignores the reality of the state of insurrection gangs have declared against the lawful civil authorities.
CJW| 2.6.13 @ 8:04AM
This would potentially give Obama, or any president, the authority to kill the gang members.
As you know Obama now claims authority to kill American cititzens abroad who are members of Al Quaeda and affiliated groups. The next logical step in this new found authority is to kill American citizens in the USA.
Obama and the Dems do not want to waterboard or torture captured foreign terrorists but want to kill American citizens abroad. Do we trust any president with this power to kill Americans on a list prepared by some bureaucrat who believes the American is a threat?
If Obama wants this power it should be debated in Congress as a war resolution.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 9:46AM
And, as they are Associated with Narco-Terrorism, one must assume that they have lots of High Powered Automatic Weapons, courtesy of President Gun Control and Attorney General "My People".
That last line I just wrote? That's WHY this Black President and this "Blacks Only" Black Attorney General, do NOTHING about the Crime Epidemic that is taking place in every American City, courtesy of Eric Holder's PEOPLE.
They will not go after their own kind.
Period.
Moe Blotz| 2.6.13 @ 11:10AM
Police around the country prefer 45 ca. or 9 mm with fifteen round clips because they know every round that is shot at a target does not strike where it is aimed. Of course a hunter such as our good Dr. Drackman does not need ten or thirty rounds for shooting Bambi, but ol' Frank would need more than seven bullets in his magazine to stop the bath salt sniffer that did not like the way the good Doctor spoke to his wife in the clinic and came at him brandishing his own hog leg. Honest citizens should not be relegated to having less fire power than the police when defending our houses and families.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 1:45PM
One of our officers came upon a mortally injured deer at an accident scene, and tried to put it out of its misery with a .40 to its skull. Of course, as most hunters know, a deer's brain is not particularly big, so the misery was prolonged a bit until someone explained why hunters use a heart & lung shot.
CJW| 2.6.13 @ 3:23PM
Did you say the deer or dem brain is small?
markenoff| 2.6.13 @ 4:30PM
My wife broke in the 25 round magazine for her Bersa .380 over the weekend. I know, the .380 is small but she can control it well and if she has 2 rounds of JHP I think she can take out a few Obama supporters before she has to reload. We practiced with our shotguns too preparing for the day that the EBTs no longer work.
markenoff| 2.6.13 @ 4:30PM
25 rounds
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 5:17PM
Due to its small size, the .380 is popular as a concealed firearm, in part because its low power in a light small framed handgun isn't overwhelming. While the Bersa has a little more heft than say, a Keltec or Ruger LCP, it is fairly compact (though a 25 round magazine makes it much less so).
Of course, once it is out and firing, those 25 rounds can bring a lot of comfort against multiple assailants.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 8:10AM
Mr. Koehl, I find much of what you write about military history and defense policy to be wise and insightful (and not just these topics, I now have a Crosley sound system helping me convert my vinyl and cassettes to digital sound based in part on your recommendation). Nonetheless, I hesitate to stamp my own imprimatur on your approach.
My reluctance is rooted in my observation and research which has taken place during the more than 30 years that I have spent being a part of the government’s force apparatus (first in the military followed by more than a quarter century in law enforcement). Without delving heavily into the Constitutional considerations (which can be considerable) of your proposal, reducing gang violence can be done without the further militarization of our law enforcement agencies. Of course, any successful approach will involve a significant commitment of resources (which are not currently available in surplus) along with will and resolve (which are rarely available in sufficient supply) guided by leaders with good judgment and (not so) common sense.
Giving Barack Obama, Eric Holder and Janet Napolitano increased ability to use wartime powers to bypass traditional Constitutional safeguards would likely quickly morph into something that would not reduce gang violence, but would reduce their political opposition through the application of force. As such, it is not a power I would ask you to grant me, or anyone else at this time.
CJW| 2.6.13 @ 8:25AM
I agree. Based on my experience I have more faith and trust in local and state police than the feds. I do not understand why the first response to a problem is to "federalize" it by giving more power to the feds.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 9:10AM
The biggest attraction to federalization is to tap into the money printing press.
When I was assigned to the FBI in the 1990s, I was testifying at the penalty phase of a death penalty hearing of a convicted murderer whom I had been involved in arresting a couple of years previously. While we were at the hospital following his arrest having his injuries attended to, he made numerous statements that I memorialized in my 302 at the time, which the state prosecutor thought would be enlightening for the jury as it considered whether or not to give him the needle.
After I gave my direct testimony about what a dangerous badass he bragged that he was, the defense attorney rose to challenge me. He questioned me as to why I hadn’t tape recorded the statements made at the hospital, asking “With all the money that the federal government has, they didn’t have money to give you a tape recorder?”
My response was “I don’t know anything about all the money they have, last time I checked, I heard they were running a huge deficit”, and which point (following the laughter) the learned counsel blushed, said “No more questions”, and sat down, allowing me to be excused from the box.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 9:49AM
You spelled: Immatuer wrong, up there. Don't you have Spellcheck?
Moe Blotz| 2.6.13 @ 10:54AM
He has the same version you use, Timmy. Or maybe he is an old phart such as I and the philanges are not as phlexible as they were forty years ago.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 11:07AM
You spelled "phorty" wrong.
And you're right. I spelled Immature, wrong.
DAMMIT!
Moe Blotz| 2.6.13 @ 11:13AM
Thank youse phor pointing that one out. No worries, meet me in the loo and we will have a toast from the bowl. Cheers.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 1:30PM
You first.
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 12:36PM
Also "philanges" are rightly spelled "phalanges."
mike 3/505| 2.6.13 @ 1:45PM
It's the Philistines in DC I'm worried about..My phalanges work just fine.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 1:45PM
Like Phellatio.
I get it.
Moe Blotz| 2.6.13 @ 1:47PM
Forgive me, this old phart had his phalanx twisted.
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 2:12PM
You guys are all phat. Big phatties.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 4:51PM
Are you phucking kidding me?
Moe Blotz| 2.6.13 @ 5:03PM
Awww Bill, you peeked.
CJW| 2.6.13 @ 10:52AM
Good story.
Instead of the Patriot Act, just have IRS go after the gangs. Al Capone was nailed on IRS charges. Should not be hard to show that the lifestyle of the gangs does not match the reported income, if any. IRS has more power than anyone, and they may have use of the drones.
Pecos Pete| 2.6.13 @ 10:56AM
CJW: The IRS is too busy getting ready to enforce KingOcare to worry about unreported gang riches.
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 8:51AM
Umm yeah, that would really work...
Better would be to Issue "Letters of Maquis", or whatever they called it that permitted average Joes to kill Pirates and take their stuff, maybe even a bounty on Scalps like in the old days, but only after proper verification with modern DNA technology...
Frank
Jack London| 2.6.13 @ 8:16AM
Here we go again - the defeatist thinking that nothing can be done to stop fewer legal weapons ending up in illegal hands. A majority on the right support better background checks - go figure.
As for the Giffords shooting, there was an armed guy on the scene but he almost shot an innocent man. Those cops in New York recently sprayed bullets at bystanders rather than a perp. You are deluded if you think more armed citizens are any kind of a good thing.
As for fixing broken inner city environments, look to your own policies on promoting inequality before you start on 'root causes'.
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 8:47AM
Wow, so how longs it gonna be till a Secret Service agent sprays the Lunchroom at Sidwell Friends with 10mm(is that what the SS is using?)when some 6th grade overachiever makes a "Furtive Movement" for the Twinkies he/she's smuggled onto his/her tray...
Frank
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 12:20PM
If I remember correctly, the Secret Service is currently using 9 mm. pistols. I don't know what firearm, but I'd bet there are a lot of Sig P226s floating around there.
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 12:35PM
A quick side trip to Wikipedia says that the U.S. Secret Service are currently issued the following: SIG Sauer P229 chambered for the .357 SIG cartridge, or the FN Five-seven pistol chambered for the 5.7×28mm cartridge.
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 1:55PM
SIG whatever and FN???
Dirty Hairy's "Do you feel Lucky" bit just wouldn't work with
"This is the Sig Sauer P229 357. Mig....
By the time he said all that Scorpio would have already shot him....
Frank
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 2:14PM
Personally, I like Sigs. The P229 has a pretty short barrel for that .357 caliber, presumably they're not using .357 Magnum.
I agree, the FN and the Sig are both made in the U.S., but by foreign manufacturers. Why aren't they using Colts or Smith and Wessons?
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 2:33PM
The .357 Sig round is about the same size as a .40 cal. S&W round.
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 2:38PM
I always why Dirty Harry wanted to give that little speech. If he was going to shoot them, just bloody well shoot them, if he was going to talk to them, put away the pistol and cuff 'em.
markenoff| 2.6.13 @ 4:33PM
"When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk". "Tuco" AKA the rat.
Nancy in NC| 2.6.13 @ 9:08AM
Jack, what part of the word criminal don't you understand? How about crazy? Can you comprehend the meaning of that word?
Your way was tried, oh great lemming, in 1994-2004. It had no affect.
I bet Jack doesn't know the working end of a Mossberg from the working end of a hammer.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 9:22AM
Jack makes two important points in opposition to the arguments he regularly advances. The armed guy that almost shot an innocent man didn’t, meaning that his training worked, because he exercised the good judgment.
His second sentence suggests that he supports Dr. Drackman’s sarcastic suggestion up the thread that cops be disarmed. Of course, if that happens, who is going to take away the guns the criminal already possess (as criminals, as you note, by their definitions, don’t follow laws) when they don’t turn them all in along with everyone else?
Jack London| 2.6.13 @ 9:37AM
No Albert - the Gifford event just proves that you cannot be sure of what you see. It wasn't anything to do with 'training' - how many people outside the military and police are trained in live shooting events? And where did I say anything about disarming the police - the point is that even when you have trained officers they often get it badly wrong.
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 9:40AM
"Live Shooting Events"???
You mean like this thang we call "Hunting"?? and I know the Whitetails don't have guns, that's why we shoot them, if they had guns, we'd shoot something else, like A-rabs.
Frank "I got a 12 pointer, and it ain't a Deer" Drackman
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 9:51AM
He can't hear you.
He's having "Simulated Sex" with his dog.
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 12:21PM
I've always preferred "live shooting events" over the alternative.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 1:47PM
And, Live Sex with the Dog.
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 2:39PM
Yeah, I preferred it over that, too.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 4:52PM
You're all right.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 3:17PM
Funny you should mention that. This article appeared in the Canadian HuffPo in October:
Brian Cutteridge, Bestiality Plea Gets Probation
A Vancouver man has been handed a suspended sentence and three years of probation after pleading guilty to one count of bestiality.
Brian Cutteridge, 38, entered a guilty plea in B.C. Supreme Court in Vancouver on Tuesday after being investigated for having sex with his two dogs, the Province reported.
The charge stemmed from incidents between 1998 and 2005, when he was suspected of having sex with a Rottweiler and a Golden Retriever. Cutteridge initially denied committing bestiality but the investigation found a video that showed him committing the acts.
Cutteridge made a brief court appearance wearing a black suit on Tuesday. His three-year probation came at the request of both Crown and defence lawyers, Metro Vancouver reported.
Cutteridge is not allowed to own any female dogs for the next three years, News1130 reported. He owned three at the time of his arrest in 2010.
The terms of his Cutteridge's sentence also state that he must provide a list of any animals he owns to the SPCA within a week, and he must allow inspections by the SPCA no more than once a month.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 3:21PM
The reason I bring it up (not only because TLP brought up sex with a dog) is that last year, there was someone posting on line that Jack London's true name is Brian Cutteridge (go back and check if you don't believe me).
Now, I don't know that to be correct, and I don't know that it is the same Brian Cutteridge if it is his real name, but is does appear that he left the thread after Tim brought up sex with a dog.
Drunken Sailor| 2.6.13 @ 3:35PM
Using Harry Reids logic, I declare Jack guilty and demand he prove otherwise.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 4:59PM
"I have been told, by someone who used to work for Jackass from London, that he has Sex with Animlas all the time."
Harry Reid.
And, Albert's right. (what a surprise) Jackass was quick to repond to my post about Sex with Dogs.
Coincidence?
You tell me.
Good Job, Albert.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 5:01PM
Are you sure you don't mean Bill8472?
Jack London| 2.6.13 @ 9:32AM
You're referring to the assault weapons bill - actually we have seen some rather awfully things since it expired, no? But what's much more important in terms of numbers killed is getting much better at stopping handguns getting out of legal hands.
Moe Blotz| 2.6.13 @ 9:42AM
Yeah, ever since Di-Fi's triumphal ban expired more murders have been committed with assault claw hammers than with assault rifles. Murder with a rifle would have been much cleaner.
Jack London| 2.6.13 @ 9:50AM
"Murder with a rifle would have been much cleaner."
Ah you mean like the kids at Newtown.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 9:54AM
Those kids were Murdered with a Handgun.
Do you Flucking people ever get anything right?
No, you don't.
Jack London| 2.6.13 @ 11:26AM
I wouldn't normally reply to you but for others reading here, once again the children were shot with a Bushmaster AR-15. At least, that's what the medical examiner said.
Moe Blotz| 2.6.13 @ 11:46AM
TLP is correct, the wee ones were shot with handguns. The AR-15 was in the creep's car.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 1:49PM
You're confusing him.
By the way - Bushmaster was my Nickname in High School.
My Wife still calls me that.
True Story.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 5:23PM
In addition to its other connotations, Bushmaster would be a natural nickname for a man with a landscaping company (in part because a nickname of Grassmaster would likely bring surveillance from state and local drug law enforcement in Connecticut).
Drunken Sailor| 2.6.13 @ 12:13PM
Still avoiding the mental health issues I see. I guess the fact that the left has been gutting mental health facilities for years has no bearing.
By the way, would love to see the links to some of the made up stats you spout.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 1:51PM
He's not ignoring it.
He's Living it.
Occam's Tool| 2.7.13 @ 5:45PM
Yes, the Left has. The Newtown shootings should be laid at the feet of an overe the top Civil Liberties organization---not the NRA, but the ACLU.
Occam's Tool| 2.7.13 @ 5:46PM
"over the top." The case law is Riese V. St. Mary's.
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 12:24PM
"Flucking," eh? Reminds me of a lame old joke from my early college days: "Let's make like a shepherd and get the flock out of here."
'Bye.
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 10:11AM
Or (Dr.) Martin Luther King Jr, shot with a Remington 30:06 pump action"Hunting" rifle, 4 round magazine, a round that has more than twice the energy of your typical assault rifle BTW...
Frank
Moe Blotz| 2.6.13 @ 11:01AM
The moment James Earl Ray allegedly squeezed off that first round, his weapon became an assault rifle.
irish19| 2.6.13 @ 11:46AM
Okay, I've seen posts that claim that the Bushmaster was used at Newtown and posts that claim the Bushmaster was found in the back seat (quiet, Frank and TLP) and all the killing was done with the handguns. For 25 points, which one was it? Provide links with your answer. Enquiring minds and all.
Moe Blotz| 2.6.13 @ 11:49AM
Go back in the A/S archive and read a couple of articles, that is where I read the details weeks ago. American Thinker had a couple columns about the weapons used as well.
Jack London| 2.6.13 @ 12:10PM
Here's an official CT statement about the guns found - he did apparently shoot himself with one of the handguns:
http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/vi.....6&Q=517284
Jack London| 2.6.13 @ 12:05PM
The primary weapon used in the attack was a "Bushmaster AR-15 assault-type weapon," said Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12.....index.html
They found a shotgun in the car - he went in with the AR-15 and two semi-auto handguns.
Drunken Sailor| 2.6.13 @ 12:16PM
All weapons he STOLE, so background checks, gun restrictions etc. would not have helped. Also it was said he was able to reload so quickly as he taped to clips together. Kind of shoots another hole in that whole 10 round max theory as well. Takes seconds to change clips.
Then again if his mother had been able to get him mental heath help earlier without wading through the courts this wouldn't even be a topic would it?
Drunken Sailor| 2.6.13 @ 12:24PM
By the way, that link simple states it was one of the weapons found in the school. It still does not state what weapon was used on the children.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 1:53PM
It was not.
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 12:40PM
One commentator has made the perceptive claim that when people say, "what need do people have for an AR-15?" the best answer is "why aren't you supporting my right to own one?"
Petronius| 2.6.13 @ 11:36AM
Gifford's shooter IS one of You. And inequality is a given Fact of life. We have a Statue of Liberty, not a statue of equality.
markenoff| 2.6.13 @ 4:35PM
Well, arresting the criminals and making them serve their entire sentence would be a start. If their hands are in prison they can't get their hands on a gun. Or at least shouldn't be able to. But we cannot even keep weapons out of prison.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 8:55AM
“Aside from a few, brave, truth-tellers, all of the discussion in Washington boils down to one theme — Why More Power and Money Should Be Transferred from You to Me”
Mr. Ferrara is correct in large part about the power, though the argument usually succeeds because the money part is often dressed up as transferred from that rich guy over there who isn’t paying his fair share. In the end, though, the money (though unevenly) usually winds up being transferred from everyone.
rjh| 2.6.13 @ 9:34AM
Mr. Ferrara, this is an excellent fact based, logical, common sense article. But I would venture a guess that you know the left is not interested in facts, saving lives, gun safety, crime prevention, or any other such goal. They only want control, and they can only get that control via total gun confiscation...a virtual impossibility in this country, which they do not understand.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 9:56AM
Please direct yourself - Mr. Ferrera - to anything ever written by Jackass from London.
That should substantiate everything that rjh is talking about.
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 9:38AM
"Letters of Marque" are actually permitted by the Constitution (Article 1, Section 8), and were proposed by Ron Paul in 2007(how did I miss that?) Of Course the chances of it getting through both Houses and signed by EICSSOTUS(Evolver in Chief Skeet Shooter of the United States) is about the same possibility of a Non-SEC team winning the BCS...
Frank
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 1:19PM
I am so glad your corrected the Letter of Marque reference. When I first read "Letters of Maquis", I had visions of the WW II French Underground and their romantic correspondence:
"Je ne pense pas que Charles de Gaulle pense que je suis mignon".
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 1:56PM
What does this have to do with DeGaulle's Penense?
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 1:56PM
Are these jokes getting old, yet?
Drunken Sailor| 2.6.13 @ 2:32PM
Still younger than the one telling them.
OregonBuzz| 2.6.13 @ 9:58AM
"The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants." Albert Camus
Pecos Pete| 2.6.13 @ 10:19AM
Mr. Ferrara: Excellent.
The proponents of Gun Control can never, and have never, explained how they will disarm criminals. Nor can they explain why more murder happens with tools other than guns.
jaytrain| 2.6.13 @ 10:53AM
Why do I care if some other tribe is blowing itself up for whatever reason . This is the new tribal society of Obama and his peeps and it just ain't none of my lookout .
Autorotate| 2.6.13 @ 10:57AM
Remember, it's not about guns--it's about control!
Louis Jenkins| 2.6.13 @ 11:30AM
Black like me Eric Holder doesn't prosecute his own color. You got to be crazy to do that. It's much safer going after the "white folk." The white folks are all divided up, with only a smigdeon of them that have their heart and their rifles in the right places. The rest are crying weanies that voted for Obama in the last election. Don't be misled, Obama would sooner leave the Jews hanging out to dry than harm a hair on Pookie Dog Shaqur down in the ghetto.
Louis Jenkins| 2.6.13 @ 11:31AM
Oh yeah, "Where all de white women?"
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 12:28PM
Those white scum. Slaveholders all. They deserve whatever they get. If they had their way, they'd all be living on the plantation and blacks would all be slaving away.
Well, no more driver's lash for me, that's what I say.
Louis Jenkins| 2.6.13 @ 12:55PM
Das right. Ol' dem goldin slippers, OH dem goldin slippers, dem goldin slippers I'se qwan a ware....
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 2:18PM
I had the blues so bad one time it put my face in a permanent frown;
You know I'm feeling so much better, I could cakewalk into town!
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 11:40AM
So are there going to be undercover ATF, Oh I'm Sorry, BATFE agents to catch E-ville Gun-Lords selling a 22 single shot rifle without a Background Check??? Wasnt that how Waco started...
Frank
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 1:59PM
Catch'em?
Under this Bunch, they're probably Giving them to these guys.
Petronius| 2.6.13 @ 11:44AM
To True. Liberals want to disarm lawful citizens because they hate morality and adore criminals. And they must be defeated by force, lest every innocent person become their prey species until only the predators remain. And they will prevail because They control every institution in society.
Slacker| 2.6.13 @ 12:21PM
Father problem?
How can we talk about this without pointing out that 4 out of 5 black women are obese. Not plump. Not full figured. We're talking too fat to properly wipe her own ass obese.
It’s no wonder black men run. Fat women don't make men happy.
Those baby mammas need to diet and adopt a modicum of femininity.
Goldwater Girl| 2.6.13 @ 3:47PM
I would agree with you, but why do black men marry fat white women??
Drunken Sailor| 2.6.13 @ 4:17PM
Because due to the fat women's lower self esteem they are less likely to leave teh black male when he is caught cheating on her.
Then again some just like big women as the larger the woman the larger the breast.
markenoff| 2.6.13 @ 4:40PM
"If you see a fat white girl smoking a Kool you know there's a half black baby around the corner."
Stolen from a fat black comedian whose name eludes me.
Slacker| 2.6.13 @ 4:54PM
Mostly because fatty pays his bills.
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 4:58PM
"The bigger the cushion, the better the pushin"
its like our Black Housekeeper said when I started random drug testing..
"Shit, Man I quit"
I like the Heroin Shiek though...
Frank
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 5:07PM
Just so all of you know?
I got Banned for a lot less than you guys are saying.
I'm just sayin.
Bob Grant| 2.6.13 @ 6:40PM
Don't use those fancy/cool sounding names around da baby mammas lest you have a bunch of Modicum's running around causing havoc.
Russel| 2.6.13 @ 12:21PM
Give me any reason and I'll rail about the Fox news ' Fair & Balanced ' radio bunch . They are so liberal , their bedrooms are papered with Karl Marx memoribilia . Since this move against our right to keep and bear , here comes the ' news ' every single hour of yet another shooting , or " gun violence " , yet somehow they never get around to the state of affairs in Chicago . Crickets . The mayor has asked numbnuts to get his skinny ass there and DO something about the killings because he's unable . Crickets from Fox News Radio . just sayin ' . That's all .
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 12:23PM
I'm glad SOMEBODY has finally seen through the Fox News smokescreen. Those commie bastards.
Russel| 2.6.13 @ 9:01PM
Whether you're being facetious or not , consider yourself lucky you don't listen to radio news . Lisa Brady , Jennifer Kyper or Shepard Smith for a day pal , and you'd be pissed too .
Intelligent Design| 2.6.13 @ 1:57PM
72% of all black births are out-of-wedlock. Black fathers don't take care of their children, who are typically raised by a single mother or grandparent. More than 50% of all violent crimes in the U.S. are committed by young black males. Black "parents" are dismal failures.
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 2:00PM
I believe that the number is closer to 85%.
I'm just sayin.
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 2:52PM
90% of Baseball's Half Mental...
and stop giving Yogi Berra credit for that, Yogi Berra didn't say every stupid thing for the last 50 years..
It was Journey-man Outfielder Jim "Doofus" Wohlford who nobody would remember at all, if it wasn't for being even dumber than Yogi Berra...
Frank "Lefty" Drackman
Pecos Pete| 2.6.13 @ 3:03PM
What happens when there are no more grandparents?
Goldwater Girl| 2.6.13 @ 3:49PM
because the baby-momma's know they have a better income from Uncle Sam, if the baby-daddy is not in the picture. Why would they want to work like the rest of us suckers?
old progrmr| 2.6.13 @ 2:28PM
Can one of you "progressive" gun control advocates out there tell me just why our powerful, yet caring central government never says anything about disarming the thousands of gangbangers, gangstas and hoodlums swarming the streets of Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, Baltimore, Philly and Newark with their illegal Glocks, Sigs, Rugers, etc. weighing down their bagging drawers? Look at the statistics; well over 60% of gun related homicides in this country are black/hispanic on black/hispanic murders in the inner city ghettos. If we subtract the deaths and violence due to these subculture criminals and their increasing gang warfare the USA is among the top 10 most safe countries in the world measured by gun related murders per 100,000 population. Again, why do our gun control politicians never mention these statistics or discuss soulutions to this incredible problem? Hell people, Chicago is more dangerous for the civilian population than Afghanistan or Iraq; only Syria and Mali are more dangerous and they are in the midst of civil wars.
Pecos Pete| 2.6.13 @ 3:06PM
Answer: They don't care about the gang bangers killing themselves. What they worry about is that a free people with guns might "disagree" with their government.
spike59| 2.8.13 @ 5:26AM
"Again, why do our gun control politicians never mention these statistics or discuss soulutions to this incredible problem?"
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what...and offend the 'base' of their Party????
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 2:49PM
Sirhan Sirhan Sirhan shot Robert Robert Robert Kennedy with a 9 shot 22 caliber Revolver, that doesn't use magazines/clips/drums, doesn't have a bayonet lug,
OK, it does have a "Pistol" Grip, sort of hard to shoot a Pistol without one..
And its almost like the Gun Manufacturers had ESP, deciding 75 years ago to design a gun that just gets under the 10 shot limitation...
How long's it gonna be before Diane Feinstein and her gradually drying up Vagina, pose in front of displays of 22 Revolvers with Bayonets???
Frank
Goldwater Girl| 2.6.13 @ 3:52PM
Frank,
That is an image I don't want in my rolodex!
TLP| 2.6.13 @ 5:08PM
We missed you last weekend.
Goldwater Girl| 2.6.13 @ 3:54PM
BTW,
Do you think the dark tresses that Di-Fi is sporting are natural, or does the carpet not match the drapes?
Frank Drackman| 2.6.13 @ 4:56PM
THAT is an image I don't want in my rolodex...
What is a Rolodex anyway?? Is it like a Spank Bank?
That Nancy Pelosi though, I'd show her who's "Speaker"...
Frank
Bob Grant| 2.6.13 @ 6:32PM
GG,
Are you referring to Diane Feinstein? I can't believe I'm chiming in on THIS subject but here goes:
Her natural color is gunmetal gray and being so anti-gun, she would have none of it; it had to go. And so, voila, Morticia Addams black!
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 4:17PM
How do you know it's gradual?
Bill8472| 2.7.13 @ 12:11PM
Another argument for the value of the much-downplayed .22 round. The .22 almost killed Ronald Reagan too.
Marc Jeric| 2.6.13 @ 3:59PM
All mass murders here have been committed by the insane. And it was the ACLU which bestowed to the insane the freedom to refuse to be committed to asylums - back in the 1970's. ACLU is still the legal arm of the Communist Party USA,
Drunken Sailor| 2.6.13 @ 4:19PM
Exactly, but good luck getting guys like Jackass London to see that. It doesn't fit his paradigm or help in the push to outlaw all guns period.
Bill8472| 2.6.13 @ 4:20PM
It wasn't the ACLU; they just brought the lawsuit. It was the U.S. Supreme Court in O'Connor v. Donaldson (1975) saying a person can't be committed to a mental health setting involuntarily unless that person is dangerous to self or others.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 5:27PM
Of course, plotting and carrying out mass murder should meet the definition of dangerous to self or others, even for the ACLU and SCOTUS.
Bill8472| 2.7.13 @ 12:12PM
I'm with you on that. Although you never know about the Supreme Court.
Occam's Tool| 2.7.13 @ 5:49PM
Bill: and then came the EVEN more odious Riese.
markenoff| 2.6.13 @ 4:43PM
If they come for my guns they'll get my ammo first.
markenoff| 2.6.13 @ 4:43PM
If God didn't want me to use deadly force to protect my family He wouldn't have made me love them so much.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 2.6.13 @ 5:28PM
You are firing them off one after another today. Your posting magazine must be high capacity, and as such, Obama will be calling for a ban.
spike59| 2.7.13 @ 6:18AM
that rates a "Bazinga!"
Kingofthenet| 2.6.13 @ 6:17PM
And extending welfare reform to all federal means tested welfare programs, requiring work by the able bodied for welfare, would begin to address fatherlessness as the root cause of gun violence.
What does this mean, I am serious, I have no idea?
spike59| 2.7.13 @ 6:20AM
"What does this mean, I am serious, I have no idea?"
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I'm not surprised AT ALL
Occam's Tool| 2.7.13 @ 5:51PM
King: Fatherlessness leads to poorly socialized teenage males, and poorly socialized young adult males. Got it? Extrapolate now. I know you're not Jewish or a RIGHTEOUS GENTILE like TLP and Anthony, but TRY.
Kingofthenet| 2.6.13 @ 6:30PM
You cannot be for background checks at gun dealers but not for private sales, it's a logical fallacy. You either are MORE concerned about Violent Felons and the Mentally Ill getting guns legally or you are more Paranoid about the Govt. having some records of a sale.
Stan Redmond| 2.6.13 @ 7:31PM
You're right. I'm for neither. They don't stop people from getting guns. They simply don't. The only thing accomplished is a de facto registry with the FBI. (Anyone who actually believes the FBI doesn't store those background checks for ever is a fool)
Stan Redmond| 2.6.13 @ 7:27PM
Obama, progressives, and democrats don't care about the black and latino gangs killing eachother. They are already democrat dependable voting blocs. Violence in the inner city are the best thing that has ever happened to further the progressives' 'forward' march to utopia. Out of wedlock births? Government programs to feed and house all those illegitimate babies. Gangs killing eachother? Perfect opportunity to vote for democrats to expand social programs. Poverty? Awesome, vote for another democrat to expand public transportation and more food stamps.
A man like Obama cares nothing for aborted children and his dark heart cares nothing about the roots of violence, only how he can further his goals.
MacWell™| 2.7.13 @ 4:49AM
Being stuck living in the Soviet state of NJ, I cannot get a CCP, After reading the gun laws of my state, I'm pretty sure I couldn't. I digress though. Although it's illegal I do have access to a few firearms and I don't care who is represented, if someone breaks into my home, they will die. Rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6. I live in a modest little house and am caretaker to my mother in law, (83), and frail, my good wife, and much of the time, my 5 year old granddaughter. There is no way I'd sit back and allow some dip-stick to do harm to anyone in my family. As far as I'm concerned, this is STILL America and we the people STILL have a Constitution and Bill of Rights. The very idea of arresting a citizen for protecting their family is amount to pi§§ing on the graves of every service person who died for this country.
I've lived here in this great country for 65+ years. I've made it a duty to see as much of it as I could. To talk with people from across America. The one thing they all have in common is the fact that they actually believe the founders were some pretty wise men. These men didn't just go to the local pub, throw back a few and write down some stuff. They were learned men who had a crazy idea.
What if we give ALL the power to the people instead of a central government?
Thus, America became.
I don't break the law.
Why do I have to PROVE myself worthy, to be considered, to be ALLOWED to exercise my 2nd amendment, God given rights?
Marc Jeric| 2.8.13 @ 6:18PM
Among the ACLU more recently notorious accomplishments in the news is the mass murder of pre-school children and their teachers in Newtown committed by a lunatic; ACLU lawsuits were crucial in obtaining “human rights” for the dangerously insane, so that these could refuse to be committed to asylums for such. Since that ACLU triumph many thousands of lunatics are roaming homeless in our city streets or burdening their families, while preparing the next mass murder.