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Hillary’s Little Helpers
The cult of Clinton is alive and well.
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A colleague and I were talking about the Kennedys the other day, and we were both pondering how a political family with so many moral failings still had such star-struck fans. Hillary benefits from a similar phenomenon. Her fan club is smaller than the Kennedys, and more centralized in Washington. But it’s just as devout, and just as impervious to inconvenient facts.
It’s unhealthy to lionize any politician. But the Hillary love has become a matter of faith, and it’s time for her admirers to shake the spell. She needs to answer questions about Benghazi and her Republican critics have every right to hold her accountable.
Photo: UPI
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Robbins Mitchell| 1.25.13 @ 6:12AM
Well,it helps to remember that Rodham got where she is by spreading her legs for a low bred serial rapist who to this day still has trouble telling the truth....so prevarication is second nature to her....yea,she is a truly outstanding "feminist" role model she is
Jack in Wi| 1.25.13 @ 7:06AM
Hillary is a nasty, murderous ,old hag who is on her last legs. She could not handle Secretary of State. How the hell is she going to handle the Presidency in 4 years. With her health problems she will be lucky to be alive. Just jump on your broomstick Hillary and fly away into eternity.
chuck| 1.25.13 @ 8:15AM
Wow, a post from Jackass that I can actually agree with. Has someone hijacked the Jackass name?
Maxwell| 1.25.13 @ 8:40AM
No, but there is a first time for everything......
Anthony| 1.25.13 @ 10:41AM
Even a blind Nazi squirrel finds a nut now and then.
Alan| 1.25.13 @ 5:31PM
Actually I think it goes even a blind nazi nut can find a squirrel.
Rhoetus| 1.26.13 @ 11:39PM
Hillary is a blind Nazi cunt.
RCV| 1.25.13 @ 11:51AM
No, it's entirely consistent with all Jack's posts.
Miles Glorious| 1.25.13 @ 9:13AM
Hillary is the Queen of Hearts,the wicket witch of the West,Cinderellas stepmother ,and Irma Bunt in one gorgeous liberal package.
c. j. acworth| 1.25.13 @ 10:24AM
You know, Jack, I can see her campaign slogan now. In four years, when Obama has totally wrecked this once-great country it will be "Vote for Hillary. At this point, what difference does it make?"
Anthony| 1.25.13 @ 11:22AM
How long before the whores in the MSM allow Hillary to "walk back her comment"?
Gary B| 1.25.13 @ 12:24PM
c.j., that was funny in addition to being an accurate description of what voter sentiment will actually be. You've hit the nail on the head. It's like Obama. Yea, he's a classic Marxist, but who cares? He's black and that's what counts.
chuck| 1.25.13 @ 8:17AM
Thanks for the mental image of the hag spreading her legs.
Anyone have some of that eye-bleach?
TLP| 1.25.13 @ 8:48AM
No, but I have one a those Mellon Ball thingies, you can borrow.
Jacob McCandles| 1.25.13 @ 10:17AM
It's a horrific visual. I'm seeing a thing from Alien popping out, then another pops out from it's jaws etc.
GobBluthe| 1.25.13 @ 6:34AM
She has all the hallmarks of incompetence. But it doesn't matter.
TLP| 1.25.13 @ 7:59AM
Let's remember who the Sycophants of The Wife of The Rapist, are.
They still love Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Min, and Fidel Castro. And if Chavez wasn't a Vegetable? Sean Penn would be down there right now, wearing a Blue Dress, a Black Beret, and a worn out set of Knee Pads that Hugo keeps around the Palace for just such occasions.
They still think the Rosenberg's got a raw deal, and that Alger Hiss was railroaded by Nixon. (which they never "forgave" him for) The Godless Soviet Union was Heaven on Earth. The Berlin Wall was there to keep the West Germans out. Cuba has the Best Medical System in the World. South Africa is way better now. George Bush blew everything up on 911, with the help of the Jews. George Bush steered the Hurricane in to New Orleans. And the Earth's Climate is getting Colder. I mean, Hotter. I mean, it's Changing.
MENTAL DISORDER.
Job| 1.25.13 @ 8:09AM
all the hallmarks of incompetence, no conscience, the obvious shoo in for 2016.
Alan| 1.25.13 @ 8:21AM
"all the hallmarks of incompetence, no conscience, the obvious shoo in for 2016"
Watching that scag doing her performance in front of her sicophants would gag a maggot. This country is toast, toaster on high, carbon inducing, bread blackening TOAST!
Gary B| 1.25.13 @ 12:27PM
She's perfect for the new "America."
Alan| 1.25.13 @ 5:31PM
That face of hers could stop a freight train faster than its air brakes.
Kitty | 1.25.13 @ 9:10AM
She has all the hallmarks of incompetence. But it doesn't matter.
Not to the low-info voters.
Cobalt| 1.25.13 @ 11:14AM
A repost from 1/04/2013
Hillary's Watergate Scandal
By Jerry Zeifman
http://www.freerepublic.com/fo.....5684/posts
Job| 1.25.13 @ 6:00PM
well even before her nerve wracking 100 to 1 odds win in the futures market she was at it. a real experienced liar there. i hate this, but poetic justice would be for her to be impeached; lets hope that doesn't happen.
drudge ette obama| 1.25.13 @ 6:48AM
Her roots showed during the hearing. That says it all.
TLP| 1.25.13 @ 7:24AM
I'm gonna give you a Mulligan on that one, deo.
Tina B| 1.25.13 @ 10:25AM
I like Timmy's name for you, deo, in Latin that is the word for God, Deo. Anyway, you've got me looking back at her n checking her roots. Love ya, cuz we know about women and their hair. Vitally important to our image. I did my "roots" for many years. Now I have beautiful gray and silver roots that are growing out, and I love em. Can't wait till it's all gray n silver n white. I'm a widow who had the greatest guy for a husband. I'm retired after 30 years of worrying about my hair, my shoes, my outfits for school, teaching 8th graders meant knowing they would have something to say about how I looked each day. Just like Hillarious Clinton.
TLP| 1.25.13 @ 11:20AM
Where do ya think ya are, Tina?
The View's Web Page?
Tina B| 1.26.13 @ 5:42PM
Never seen the View or it's webpage Timmy, why? am I blabbing? My son says I do that. After talking all day for almost 30 years it ain't easy to shut up. Smiling.
MelvinNC| 1.25.13 @ 6:53AM
Because of this Crones Marxist ideology, and ineptitude, four Americans are dead and one poor soul is languishing in prison ran up by a Kangaroo Court in a matter of days.
But you see this was all necessary for Hillary and Barrack. They watched the events unfold on that fateful evening, like it was a segment of Jersey Shore, instead of Snooki, it was a United States Ambassador being drug through a court yard like a piece of meat being fed to the Islamic vultures. We had a general having personnel at the ready to respond, this general ignored orders and was promptly relieved.
We have dead Navy Seals whose ethos is never to leave anyone behind, but Hillary and Barrack aren't Navy Seals are they? Like the Crone Hillary stated, "What difference does it make?"
"You insipid Marxist bitch, it makes allot of difference to us in the military."
Drunken Sailor| 1.25.13 @ 11:31AM
One little quibble Melvin.
It makes ALL the difference.
Semper Fi.
TLP| 1.25.13 @ 7:21AM
My Favourite part of her Lady Macbeth performance, was when she told the Committee (and I'm assuming that she was Under Oath at the time) that her fellow Democrat Beotch was all wrong when she told the Committee (and I'm assuming that she was Under Oath at the time) "We were all watching it happen IN REAL TIME on the Moniter in the Room".
When it was the Wife of the Rapist's turn, she said that "Nobody saw Nuthin. There was no live feed from a Drone overhead. There was no Moniter. And, that dumb little nobody who said otherwise, is a Lying little Wh*r*. I am Hillary Clinton, and I will not be quiet. I have the Patriotic Right to lie through my teeth in any Administration....................."
So? I'm not a Lawyer. I've never played one on TV. And, I am not staying at a Holiday Inn, as I write this. I did used to take care of a Lawyer's Properties, but that's not important.
Someone is Guilty of LYING TO CONGRESS.
(Please go back and Reread that last paragraph about me not being a Lawyer) Now, scroll down and read the next one.
I'm pretty sure that's a Felony.
If we actually had any MEN on our side? Somebody would be Lawyering Up right about now.
IF.
chuck| 1.25.13 @ 8:20AM
Yep, they put Roger Clemons on trial for lying to Congress, why not the Hag?
CJW| 1.25.13 @ 8:26AM
Ollie North was accused of lying to Congress.
But, since Congress repeatedly lies to us why can't we lie to Congress?
Anthony| 1.25.13 @ 10:50AM
I only wish some witness some day, would say to a congressional hearing, " You cannot find me in contempt of congress, for I am contemptuous of all you bastards".
Scooter Libby was indicted and convicted of having a different recollection from Tim Russert, thanks to Colin Powell and Richard Armitage.
Hillary Clinton should have been frogged marched out of the senate hearing in cuffs.
We live in a time of total corruption, the likes Rome never witnessed, yet still fell.
CJW| 1.25.13 @ 6:22PM
Hillary can say "who cares" about the reasons for killing four Americans and the brain dead Dems followers say "leave her alone." It seems being married to a scumbag like Bubba has innoculated Lady Bubba from any criticism.
It does not matter why four Americans were killed. I thought libs were always interested in gettng to the root cause.
You are right, Anthony, total corruption.
Diefledermaus| 1.26.13 @ 6:40PM
Don't you love the rank hypocrisy of left wing Dems that in one breath hoist bimbos like Hillary on their shoulders declaring they are "the greatest thing since sliced bread" and an intelligent, strong woman.
Treat her as an equal and grill her like you would ANY SecState and then it's "leave the poor little girl alone and pick on someone your own size".
Democrats - having it both ways for 100 years!
SUBVET| 1.25.13 @ 7:34PM
Chuck.............the day after 911 I stated the lezbo is TEFLON.........
FairPorter| 1.25.13 @ 7:48AM
Had the Bengazi murders happened during a Republican administration, the secretary of state would have been eaten alive by the press.
Hillary is what Hillary is. Matt Purple has identified the real problem. The press no longer serves the people. It is completely controlled by the Democratic party, and congressional Republicans are afraid of the power the press has over elections.
Stephie| 1.25.13 @ 7:57AM
We should all be afraid of the power the press has over elections. Look what we're saddled with in our White House for another 4 years. Or more.
FairPorter| 1.25.13 @ 1:05PM
I agree. I wanted to point out why the Republicans were so ineffective at this hearing. We need a free press, not a Democratic party propaganda machine.
Job| 1.25.13 @ 8:05AM
the press no longer serves the people and the ammendment we need to be rebooting isn't the second but the first.
Job| 1.25.13 @ 12:03PM
there should be something in there about enemies of the state owning, or foreign owned press. how to define enemy may derail this...nevermind
Anthony| 1.25.13 @ 11:08AM
Fair, Do you remember how the leftist whores in the media had a cow over a presidential daily briefing by Rice, that alluded to possible ways of a terrorist attack?
As a result, the media and the Ds claimed Bush failed to Connect the Dots on 9/11.
Funny how that phrase Failed to Connect the Dots doesn't apply to Obozo and Hillary, and has disappeared from the leftist's lexicon. And not one R used that phase during the hearings!!!
And to think, they watched it in real time!!!
Time to shake up corrupt Washington, like it's never been shaken before, or else America is finished.
Alan| 1.25.13 @ 11:22AM
Nobody is going to shake up or change DC, its become a corrupt, self-breathing, self protecting, self preserving alien entity that has nothing to do with what it was intended for. In the end it will teeter, wobble and fall. The only matter left to discuss is how much destruction it will sow before it does. What you saw in Russia when Communism fell will happen here in one form or another. Years, decades, but it will happen.
RCV| 1.25.13 @ 6:46PM
"Had the Bengazi murders happened during a Republican administration, the secretary of state would have been eaten alive by the press."
Excuse me? Anyone remember the terrorist attack on US Marine barracks in Lebanon in 1983, under President Ronald Reagan? More than 250 American servicemen killed. Why? Poor security. S
"Shortly after the barracks bombing, President Ronald Reagan appointed a military fact-finding committee headed by retired Admiral Robert L. J. Long to investigate the bombing. The commission's report found senior military officials responsible for security lapses and blamed the military chain of command for the disaster. It suggested that there might have been many fewer deaths if the barracks guards had carried loaded weapons and a barrier more substantial than the barbed wire the bomber drove over easily."
What did we do? Fire the Commander in Chief? No. We blamed the terrorists, as we should have, and set about to lessen the chances of a repeat. That's what mature, responsible people do who aren't playing political games.
CJW| 1.25.13 @ 7:51PM
Did Reagan go on TV and blame the attack on some video, then send the UN ambassador on five TV shows to repeat the lie, then when the lie is clear, have the Secretary of State testify "Who care" why there was an attack?
Warrior| 1.26.13 @ 5:56PM
Typical liberal fixation trying to compare two events that have no comparison. A suicide bombing and a coordinated attack. No advanced warning versus embassy communications warning of Al Qaeda infiltration and pockets. Peace keeping force versus covert gun shipping operation.
Here's the worst part of the differences. Reagan did not leave men there to die while in battle with the ability to send assistance. While the fire fight was raging, the Marxist sat and watched it in real time and did nothing...sorry he went to sleep while the fight raged on. There was no cover up versus a deception campaign that proceeded for over two weeks.
What is it with you ideological lemmings? Always a comparison to Reagan or Bush or Nixon. No regard for context, only a burning desire to obfuscate for an administration that is tyrannical and failing. Hillary has failed miserably and Kerry understands the world even less. What do you believe the Muslim Brotherhood is going to do with arms we are now supplying them in Egypt?
JAWilson| 1.25.13 @ 7:57AM
What difference? She will never be president. How about that difference?
Nancy in NC| 1.25.13 @ 8:07AM
What makes you so sure, JA? Corruption and slimy behavior didn't stop her husband. Ted Kennedy was responsible for a woman's death. Didn't seem to hurt his career. obama just got reelected and he's a liar of the first order. The Dims seem to have the lowest value system and still get reelected. Weiner is running again. Want to bet he won't win?
TLP| 1.25.13 @ 8:37AM
Listen to Nancy, JAWilson, and remember.
Even though Nancy is absolutely Correct in her assessment of the Black Hole that exists in The Left, in the same spot where everyone else keeps their Integrity and Character?
She's barely even Scratched the Surface of their Depravity.
RCV| 1.25.13 @ 6:48PM
The brilliant TAS political prognosticaters, who were sure Romney would beat Obama -- that Tea Party vote sweeping the country.
If she chooses to run, Hillary Clinton will be your next President. You can count on it.
Nancy in NC| 1.25.13 @ 7:59AM
The left deifies the lowest scum and claims it as their own. No longer do I believe those who are Dimorats are just misinformed or misguided. They are slime worshipers...birds of a feather?
Nancy in NC| 1.25.13 @ 8:09AM
Obviously Dims have a very low threshold for qualifications and no value system.
Louis Jenkins| 1.25.13 @ 9:05AM
What a lame performance! The people know who is at fault. Not the military nor other men concerned that an ambasador and three Americans were in trouble, but Mrs. Clinton. Would that Hillary been in Stevens position, to be murdered, Isalmo-raped, and drug dead though the mud. She has learned her job well through the teachings of the Slick-mister himslf. Bill is extremely proud. Now she may retire and run in 2017.
wrlord| 1.25.13 @ 2:20PM
The people DON'T know. And this is important. It's all right in front of them, but somehow they don't see it.
Von Mises Jr| 1.25.13 @ 9:05AM
As I lay my head on my "Surrealistic Pillow" last night, I "had a dream." "I Dreamed I was in a Hollywood Movie....I stood high by the mountaintops....and she whispered in my ear, something crazy"....she said:
(segue)
"Gotta get down to it,
Islamist are cutting us down,
should have been done long ago,
what if f you knew Chris and
found him dead on the ground,
How can you run when you know.....
Four Dead in Benghazi....Four Dead in Benghazi”
Come on now sing along with our sixties radical choom gang in the White House, State Department, Senate and Congress just saved the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda from moderate Muslim dictators Kaddafi and Mubarak.
Look at the bright side, dude.
Only four bumps in the road and
only one bumped in the can.
Pecos Pete| 1.25.13 @ 9:29AM
Don Dom: I'd clap, but then Tim would slap, because I didn't snap.
spike59| 1.25.13 @ 10:19AM
The last thing we need is for someone to cause a flap
TLP| 1.25.13 @ 11:24AM
Spill the Wine
Get that Girl
Spill the Wine
Get that Girl
Get that Girrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrl.
TLP| 1.25.13 @ 11:33AM
DIG that Girl.
DAMMIT!
We want an Edit app. We want an Edit app. We want an Edit app. We want an Edit app. We want an Edist app.
And, get of Ben Stein while you're at it, too.
Drunken Sailor| 1.25.13 @ 11:37AM
Well at least one line in that song fit.
The fact that me an overfed long haired leaping gnome
Albert Constantine Jr.| 1.25.13 @ 3:12PM
Eric Burdon meets Neil Young, or what happens if you throw a War, and nobody protests it?
Hardcard| 1.25.13 @ 9:30AM
It looks like it's back to the commodities market for billary. Uma, the little weiner and the baby are fine but billary is still a little punchy after her debreifing by trumpka and big sis napolitano prior to her giving testimony at the hearing.
Bandido| 1.25.13 @ 9:53AM
She is Rosa Kleb, but with the shank in her mouth instead of her shoe. With her greasy stringy bleached hair, coke bottle glasses, sallow rubberized skin, frumpish rags, rhinocerous thighs, high harpy voice, she makes Lotte Lenya look like Marilyn Monroe. But Lotte would've made a much better Sec of State.
Job| 1.25.13 @ 12:06PM
funny stuff; had to google Rosa Kleb.
Louis Jenkins| 1.25.13 @ 10:03AM
Drudge says that the glasses are to keep her double vision at bay. The have a prizim in them. She's worse off than I thought.
TLP| 1.25.13 @ 11:26AM
Knowing this bunch?
They'll probably give her a job as an Air Traffic Controller.
Anthony| 1.25.13 @ 11:37AM
Yeah, that means every time she sees her POS husband, she sees two of him.
Imagine, Slick wee Willie and his double grinning at you?
Gee, does this mean Monica has two blue dresses?
Kwan| 1.25.13 @ 10:05AM
The Animal Planet cable channel runs a show called Fatal Attractions. It's about lunatics that try to keep dangerous animals like Bengal Tigers as pets, and one day when they go out to feed the animal the tiger decides to add them to the menu. I see quite a bit of similarity between these nut jobs and the mentally challenged fools that elect and support these Democrat Party incompetents, for it is indeed a Fatal Attraction that will ultimately destroy our country.
TLP| 1.25.13 @ 11:27AM
That woulda made a great analogy, Mr. Kwan.
Kwan| 1.25.13 @ 11:48AM
Now that you mention it it is Friday.
Anthony| 1.25.13 @ 10:11AM
Watching the morons in the MSM gush over Clinton's disgusting performance at the senate hearing, once again demontrates we live in a seperate reality from these people.
"She cares sooo much". That was the consensus of these leftist idiots in the MSM, as she blustered, bullied, cried, and lied about her malfeasence that KILLED FOUR AMERICANS.
Had Clinton been a R, she would have been referred to a special prosecutor for a criminal indictment. The fact that four Americans are dead and the media and Clinton agree "what difference does it make", clearly shows these people are detached from reality.
Imagine if Bush had said, "what difference does it make that there were no WMD, we removed a vicious dictator and freed 40 millioh Iraqis" Bitme and Kerry would have issued articles of impeachment that same day.
Folks, leftism is indeed a mental disorder, and we are living along side these people. They will destroy America if we continue to allow them to.
Doctor Right| 1.25.13 @ 11:20AM
They have ALREADY destroyed America. The country is now hopelessly divided between those who stand for the Constitution, and those who will do anything for the sake of power.
Populating the latter camp's supporters are legions of people on the dole, Femi-nazis, Hollywood dumbasses, environmental nut-jobs, greedy trial lawyers, illegal immigrants, ethnic front-groups, limousine liberals, dopey college students and OWS types, 93% of the black population, Planned Parenthood, public sector unions, etc, etc.
In other words, those who support the Left all do so because they either:
a) Have something to gain - money, power, etc - from the slush-fund known as "the Democrat Party," or...
b) They're either too dumb, too radical, or too lazy to understand the truth.
"Conservatism" is NOT going to change those people, ever.
They will NEVER accept our beliefs, and we will NEVER bow down to theirs.
It is irreconcilable.
But it can be turned in our favor.
Anthony| 1.25.13 @ 1:36PM
You and Grzmlyk may indeed be right Dr Right, however, I hope you are also correct that things can be turned in our favor.
Time will soon tell.
CJW| 1.25.13 @ 6:24PM
We have no choice but to turn it in our favor.
TLP| 1.25.13 @ 11:29AM
Which is why we Don't watch those people.
Doctor Right| 1.25.13 @ 11:12AM
January, 2017.
Scene: Chapaqua, NY.
Federal Marshal: "Mrs. Clinton? You're under arrest."
Hillary: "On WHAT charges?!?!"
Federal Marshal: "What difference does it make?"
Who Knows?| 1.25.13 @ 11:32AM
Very good.
Job| 1.25.13 @ 12:10PM
good one D.R.
TLP| 1.25.13 @ 1:18PM
I just Defriended you.
Job| 1.25.13 @ 1:33PM
sick isn't it
Who Knows?| 1.25.13 @ 11:32AM
“A view is plausible because we prize it; we are enamored of its externals. We hold fast to it as the truth. No doubt the process is unconscious and goes beyond empirical experience; it may even be beginningless. Nevertheless, it acts as a cover in hiding the real from us. In that state we do not even know that it is a view. So long as we are in illusion, we do not know it as illusion. We become aware of its contradictions as we analyze it and know it inside out. Self-conscious reflection is not possible if anything were taken as true and unitary, as simple. When we entertain a view, we are possessed by it; we look at things in this colored way and are not even conscious of it. Only as a contrast is felt between what appeared and what it really turns out to be, there is self-consciousness. We must stand aside and perceive the inner flaw or fissure in our position. This is analysis which splits up entities and exhibits their inner nature.”
Page 136, “The Central Philosophy of Buddhism”, T R V Murti, 1955
“Only as a contrast is felt between what appeared and what it really turns out to be, there is self-consciousness.” I posit that there’s a whole lot of BIG ‘turning out’ that will be so contrasted with ‘what appeared’, that even the most rapt Obama-fans will be shocked into Reality.
America resembles Helen Keller, blind and deaf, about to be dumped on by a tsunami of ‘water’ = the Truth.
Wah-wah.
Drunken Sailor| 1.25.13 @ 11:39AM
Darrlye Issa summed up her performance perfectly.
I take full responsiblity but it wasn't my fault.
JD| 1.25.13 @ 12:51PM
What I learned in all this is that the Bush camp should have said "What difference does it make?" during the Valarie Plame affair.
Dave Williams| 1.25.13 @ 1:12PM
Shrillary is yet another symptom of the thorough rot this once-great country and culture have undergone in the last 40 years. We can survive her, but we can't survive the legions of people who, in the face of undeniable and incontrovertible EVIDENCE, still believe in her.
pigdog| 1.25.13 @ 1:14PM
"She wore a “heavy green jacket, dark pants, and thick jacket.”"
Borrowing Henry Kissinger's glasses was a nice touch. They made HILLARY! look mature and distinguished. I was disappointed she did not affect a German accent in her testimony. And she didn't use her Negro dialect against the angry white guys. I'd say that HILLARY!'s performance was mediocre, at least compared to her earlier speechifying.
R Martin| 1.25.13 @ 2:07PM
The glasses were a prop to show that she is still suffering from her recent "afflictions". Very much like Teddy Kennedy's neck brace after he "testified" about the death of Mary Jo Kopechne, which he caused. Quite a pride of lions we have there in the senate.
Bandido| 1.25.13 @ 1:43PM
A natural commissar, Hillary would be the perfect choice for a Stasi interrogator. Just look at that face. It is modelled on the material you find under the dank belly of a reptile. Look at those two windows into her black soul. She has the countenance of a sadist, the eyes of a witch.
wrlord| 1.25.13 @ 2:05PM
" Were these people watching the same hearing? Was another Hillary Clinton testifying before another Senate Foreign Relations Committee yesterday? "
Mr. Purple, (am I in Reservoir Dogs?), were the American people watching a different Obama first term than we were? This phenomenon is hardly limited to their treatment of Clinton.
Bandido| 1.25.13 @ 2:23PM
2013 Update of Crosby, Stills, & Nash:
Tin soldiers and Hillary's comin,
We're finally on our own.
This winter I hear the drummin,
Four dead in Libya-o.
Gotta get down to it,
Qaeda is cutting us down,
Shoulda been done long ago.
What if you knew Chris and
Found him dead on the ground?
How can you lie when you know?
Pecos Pete| 1.25.13 @ 6:40PM
Be sure to come to the next contest! You might win something wonderful.
Tina B| 1.26.13 @ 1:23PM
Bandito has risen to the Rewrite Rock analogy pinnacle first time outa the gate. I see I am going to have stiff competition, don't say it Timmy, in the coming analogy contest. Which is when and where btw?
Bandido| 1.26.13 @ 2:34PM
Tina, I could not hope to best you. I have seen your work and it is most excellent.
Tina B| 1.26.13 @ 5:45PM
Kisses, Bandito!
Tina B| 1.26.13 @ 5:46PM
Sorry, that's Bandido, Sir.
Mike W| 1.25.13 @ 4:09PM
HRC is a hideous prostitute. No doubt that. Yet it is the epitome of irony that Repubs are trying to use the Benghazi affair to beat on Obama when every one of these Repubs bought into the total crock of garbage that was the Iraq war.
You supported an operation that was literally a thousand times more deadly than Benghazi and you expect to have credibility with the American people?
Rhoetus| 1.26.13 @ 11:44PM
Good point Mike W
Robert| 1.27.13 @ 8:50AM
You mean that war all the Dems in Congress voted for?
cicero| 1.25.13 @ 4:37PM
We can make fun of the Clintons all we want, but they still never seem to go away. They can lie, cheat, steal, rape, and betray the country. But they are always taken back with loving arms by the idots - citizens - of the good old USA. As usual, history repeats, or at least rhymes. Athens had its Alcibiades, and we have the Clintons.
We heap coals on them, and rant about the press. But, where were the Republicans? I kept waiting for someone to ask how she could watch the live feed from 4:00 until the 2 Americans were overrun 8 hours later without doing anything to get them out of there. My info has it that it was a political decision, and the rescue teams were ordered to stand down. If I am being misinformed, let me know. If my info is correct, where is the outrage?
Pecos Pete| 1.25.13 @ 6:41PM
You have stated my understanding.
RCV| 1.25.13 @ 6:52PM
Gentlemen: please inform us of the inside sources where you get this amazing information.
John II| 1.26.13 @ 12:07PM
No inside sources, Roberto. The information is glaringly in the public domain. I seem to recall a few months ago dropping a few details contained in an influential, publicly accessible book written by the Professor's (and Hillary's) hero Saul Alinsky. Your response was one of blunt condescension, to the effect that you don't waste your time reading such trash. One may suppose from your response that you perhaps also don't waste your time looking at the public record of the Clintons' behavior.
I'm wondering, though, whether you would feel the same condescension toward Aristotle's Politics, in which the philosopher avers that a bad man may behave intermittently like a good citizen, but can NEVER be a good leader.
The trouble with the Clintons, as with the Professor, is that they are both bad people. And the trouble with a culture that lionizes bad people is that it is degenerate. Simple.
RCV| 1.26.13 @ 12:35PM
A superficially erudite response, John -- you are a fine wordsmith, and always a pleasure to read -- but, alas, devoid of any actual content. Much of the blogging on this site consists of similar "facts" drawn from repetition on the Internet but lacking any basis in reality. Good to hear from you nonetheless.
John II| 1.26.13 @ 3:05PM
Fact: The information is public.
Fact: Saul Alinsky (1909-1972) wrote a book called RULES FOR RADICALS which was published in 1971, the year before he died.
Fact: The book was a formative influence on Hillary Rodham and Barack Hussein Obama, as attested by Hillary Rodham and Barack Hussein Obama.
Fact: I read the book.
Fact: I mentioned some of the grislier contents of the book on a TAS post a few months ago.
Fact: Roberto responded to the post dismissively.
Fact: I interpreted the response to be one of blunt condescension.
Fact: I drew the inference that Roberto insulates himself from data potentially discomfiting to his preferred political worldview.
Fact: The ancient Greek philosopher Aristotle wrote a treatise on Politics in the 4th century B.C.
Fact: Among the points made in the treatise is that character and politics are intimately connected such that good politics depends on good character.
In short, my response is fairly bristling with facts. Why, then, do you put "facts" in quotation marks?
Now, "erudite" means "deeply learned." Prescinding from the question of whether I am erudite, wouldn't it be more cogent to put the expression "superficially erudite" in quotation marks to acknowledge the expression as an oxymoron?
So what do you have against Aristotle, anyhow?
Albert Constantine Jr.| 1.26.13 @ 3:42PM
It is good to see you back again lately, John II. As RCV is my favorite lefty (and I mean that in a sincere way, and not like when I say Kingofthe Net is my favorite lefty troll), I thought I might memorialize his evasion with a bit of doggerel (what with there being no contest this weekend, and all):
There are none so blind as those who will not see
But if there were we’d call them R C V
A gentleman with extra education
But guilty once again of obfuscation
Like Bubba Clinton flirted with Lewinsky
Instead his spouse would dally with Alinsky
And to spice up and to complicate the drama
The Alinsky subject was taught by Obama
One can stay in deep denial with the fools
But the radical has long broadcast his Rules
And to pretend that they’re not out must be a ruse
Or R C V has become quite obtuse
John II| 1.26.13 @ 4:50PM
Hey Al. Nice doggerel. Actually, I came back just to see if there's still a contest and couldn't resist getting into a passing skirmish with Roberto.
As I've suggested before, Roberto is basically a goodhearted sentimentalist, not to mention a proper aficionado of 1950s flicks. I am a tad older than he, but we are essentially coevals, so that we both remember the Democratic Party of old with a certain fondness: Harry Truman, Scoop Jackson, Dwight MacDonald, Daniel Patrick Moynihan . . .
The difference, of course, is that, unlike Roberto, I've had no trouble noticing that what used to be called the Democratic Party is now called the Republican Party. The former has turned into something much worse than stupid.
The ontology of Roberto's blinkered vision eludes me, but it may have something to do with his successful career as a lawyer. My only success in life has been merely as a family man, which I can't claim any credit for; the career never amounted to much--a condition that, over time, may afford a certain ironic detachment and unearned clarity.
One muses thus at my age, I guess. Only 16 months and two days left to (a late) retirement.
TLP| 1.26.13 @ 4:55PM
I'm thinking that you need to find a better "Favourite Lefty".
I like Alan Brooks.
He doesn't KNOW anything.
But, unlike your boy?
He doesn't pretend, otherwise.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 1.26.13 @ 5:54PM
I didn't say I set my standards high. Basically, for the non-troll variety, there is RCV and DRed who admit that they're lefties, and don't only spew the talking points.
Tina B| 1.26.13 @ 5:49PM
Snappin'
Snappin'
Snappin'
RCV| 1.26.13 @ 11:37PM
I'm flattered, Al - and I mean that in a sincere way!
And John, what is now called the Republican Party bears no resemblance whatsoever to the Democratic Party of the 60s, or indeed any organized party in American history. Seriously, it has no notion of what it stands for, no cohesion, and little idea what to do next. Sad, really.
John II| 1.27.13 @ 12:07PM
In retrospect, the Democratic Party started slipping its rails in 1913, when it gave the nation a social engineer for president and the intrusive federal income tax.
The Republican Party started slipping its rails in 1929 when it gave the nation a social engineer for president and a clumsy response to the stock market crash.
By the 1960s, the Democratic Party finally went over the edge when the Kennedy machine gave the nation a low-life Texas pol for president. Since 1968, the Democratic Party has pursued a more or less steady effort to reduce the nation to a degenerate welfare state.
My point is more basic. In the 1960s, the Democratic Party still had a residual collection of good people in its ranks; today all the good people in politics are either Independents or Republicans.
Among many grave falsehoods now embraced by the Democratic Party is the Gramscian notion that the personal is the political. The opposite, of course, is the case: the political is the personal--and today's Republican Party still embraces personally admirable people devoted to informed discourse and sustained argument over public policy issues. Anyone who cannot see that Paul Ryan is a smarter and better human being than Joe Biden is without moorings.
My own description of the Democratic Party of old is strictly personal. That's all I am interested in. The Democrats no longer have ANYONE of the calibre of those I mentioned. The Republicans still do. QED.
CJW| 1.27.13 @ 12:53PM
John
I agree with your analysis. Both parties were always coalitions of various groups and beliefs, especially the Dem party before 1972. The Dems and Reps used to agree on the basics of a strong national defense and a respect for the constitution. Now Obama and the lefties want to radically transform our country, and the constitution is not to their liking.
Since 1972 the lefties have gradually taken over the Dem party. They forced out any pro lifers such as Governor Bob Casey. Others like Algore, Jessee Jackson, and others switched from pro life to pro abortion to stay in the party.
On a local level we still have in Pa some of the old time Dems, but on the national level it is the party of Obama, Pelosi, Mrs Bubba. It is the party of abortion, condoms, redistribution, and big government.
At least the Reps still say they respect the constitution, want lower taxes, a strong defense, and smaller government.
RCV| 1.27.13 @ 4:10PM
Beg to differ, Professor, but your history of the Republican Party is just plain wrong. Its current antipathy to a strong central government and what the right now calls "social engineering" is not its historic legacy. With the exception of the brief interlude of pro-business conservatives Coolidge and Harding, Hoover's philosophy was consistent with the party's founding principles exemplified by Lincoln, Grant and Theodore Roosevelt: strengthening the national government at the expense of state powers, and enacting strong curbs against the excesses of unregulated markets.
There is not a Republican leader around today who is their equal, nor any who even stand up to the Democrats you mentioned.
John II| 1.27.13 @ 7:34PM
You may differ all you like, Roberto, so long as you decline to insult me with the crass appellation "Professor." I am not a "Professor." I am a teacher; I work for a living.
I also work among a gaggle of jackasses who insist on being addressed by that silly appellation, which is where I got the notion of referring to the toplofty gasbag ignoramus Obama as "the Professor." Where was I?
Oh yes--history. You know, the same Aristotle of whom you appear dismissive also identified the fallacy of ignoratio elenchi, whereby one responds to a point with an unrelated--or, more often, tangentially related--point. [More below]
John II| 1.27.13 @ 7:39PM
My point--which you seem uninterested in addressing--is moral, not political. In your response, for example, you identify as "founding principles" the (vague) policies of "strengthening the national government" and "enacting strong curbs." But policies are not principles. Policies are attempted, always tentative applications of principles. The principles of the Republican Party at its founding (and of the Democratic Party in its historic origins) are contained in the Declaration and the Constitution, in the opening paragraph of the former and in the Preamble of the latter.
Historically (if we must go there) and until fairly recently, the practical divide in American politics was always between the Hamiltonian urge to centralized power and the Jeffersonian urge toward decentralization and subsidiarity. Until recently, both parties have always exhibited both urges within their ranks and, on particular issues, have managed to coalesce around one or the other urge. (It was the outbreak of the Civil War, for example, not any "principles" contained in the Republican Party's founding documents, that moved Lincoln to the Hamiltonian urge as a matter of practical exigency.)[Still more below]
John II| 1.27.13 @ 7:40PM
What you call "principles" are ad hoc applications of principles, and what has changed for the worse is that the Democratic Party no longer tolerates the Jeffersonian urge.
To borrow your phraseology, my point is that there is not a Democratic leader around today (and precious few Democrats generally) with the good character of a Bobby Jindal, or a Marco Rubio, or a Paul Ryan, or a Mitt Romney (come to think of it--I almost forgot his name), or a Jim DeMint, or . . . actually, the list is encouragingly long.
But the larger culture is discouragingly degenerate, not just the Democratic Party that panders to it.
Marc Jeric| 1.29.13 @ 8:57AM
Not so: we have seen a number of "decent" limp-fisted RINO's go down to defeat - Bush 1, Dole, McCain, Romney...
John II| 1.29.13 @ 2:23PM
What is "not so," Marc: my contention that the larger culture is degenerate? Bush 1, Dole, McCain, and Romney were all defeated by degenerates, and Bush 2 in his first round lost the popular vote to a degenerate. Those events would seem to fit my larger contention.
It's fascinating, in a gruesome sort of way, that so few people of so many political persuasions--including apparently principled conservatives--don't seem to know what the hell I'm talking about.
Oh well. This thread is pretty old, so no one will ever read this post, but the rumination alone helps one to keep one's mooring intact in these stormy times.
Tina B| 1.26.13 @ 1:24PM
Go back to sleep, RCV.
RCV| 1.26.13 @ 5:24PM
Tina, I'm always so impressed at the depth of analysis your posts bring to this site.
Tina B| 1.26.13 @ 5:50PM
Why thank you, twit.
RCV| 1.26.13 @ 11:33PM
...and the educated vocabulary.
Tina B| 1.29.13 @ 8:35AM
Clean and not too critical, most of the time. Glad you noticed.
Marc Jeric| 2.2.13 @ 4:28PM
And what about the role of our Main Stream Media which, in full service to Obama’s interests, failed to report the details of the Ambassador Stevens fate whereby he was captured alive, stripped naked, sodomized with a broom handle, paraded through the streets, and then finally executed by a bullet in the head, before his body was returned to that “consular” post for our contemplation. No attempt was made by the Libyan government to intervene in those celebrations. The 9/11 anniversary Al-Qaeda attack was fully supported through its failure to intervene by the Libyan jihadist government, installed in power by Obama’s active approval and by the US Air Force bombs.
hrgfue | 1.25.13 @ 7:52PM
NFL,NBA,2013 Fashion kickoff for u
Kotorokun| 1.26.13 @ 9:51AM
What's the difference between Hillary Clinton and an old shoe? If one absolutely had to one could eat the old shoe.
RCV| 1.26.13 @ 12:36PM
The Balkan Nazi demonstrates his high class commentary.
Kotorokun| 1.26.13 @ 4:40PM
And RCV continues to demonstrate his world-class stupidity. By the way, calling yourself RCV so that you can reply to your own comments under your other nom de buffoon, Occam's Tool, is amusing, in a pathetically desperate sort of way.
RCV| 1.26.13 @ 5:22PM
I realize that you're relatively new to this site, but Occam and I have agreed on very little over the years -- he's a conservative Republicand and I'm a liberal Democrat -- apart from your stupidity and utter vileness.
RCV| 1.26.13 @ 5:22PM
I realize that you're relatively new to this site, but Occam and I have agreed on very little over the years -- he's a conservative Republicand and I'm a liberal Democrat -- apart from your stupidity and utter vileness.
Kotorokun| 1.26.13 @ 6:30PM
You are repeating yourself RCV. Or is that TLP. By the way, there is no "d" in Republican. There I go smartening up a chump again.
RCV| 1.27.13 @ 4:11PM
I bet your hero Schnickelgruber was a careful speller, too.
TLP| 1.27.13 @ 5:40PM
It's Schicklgruber, idiot.
Kotorokun| 1.27.13 @ 6:44PM
Aha! Just as I suspected! Schizophrenic as well it seems.
RCV| 1.27.13 @ 7:19PM
What, did you check your family Bible for the correct spelling of the man sent by God to punish and cleanse the Jewish people with the Holocaust, TLP?
Tina B| 1.26.13 @ 1:26PM
I thought that was a pretty good one. Props to ya Kotorokun. Ignore RCV, he's a poseur with no sense of humor.
Kotorokun| 1.26.13 @ 4:41PM
Thank you kindly Tina.
TLP| 1.26.13 @ 4:59PM
You might wanna rethink your praise of KKKortocun.
If you read his other posts?
You'll discover that he makes Jack In Wi sound like Bibi Netanyahu's best friend.
Kotorokun| 1.26.13 @ 5:10PM
Glad you liked them TLP. By the way nitwit, learn to spell.
Tina B| 1.26.13 @ 5:53PM
In other words, anti-Semitic? Prejudiced?
But that was a good joke.
What say ye, sir Kotorokun?
Truth please.
Kotorokun| 1.26.13 @ 6:33PM
If my posts frustrate congenital idiots like this TLP specimen then they are effective and worthwhile. That's what says I.
spike59| 1.28.13 @ 6:02AM
"Ignore RCV, he's a poseur with no sense."
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there, Tina-fixed it for ya
Stan Redmond| 1.26.13 @ 2:28PM
Does this mean we can use the "What difference does it make" defense when the democrats try to ban and confiscate our firearms?
Rhoetus| 1.26.13 @ 11:42PM
Hillary is like an Alger Hiss for our time.
RCV| 1.27.13 @ 4:21PM
Paul Ryan on NBC this Sunday:
“Look, if we had a [Hillary] Clinton presidency, if we had Erskine Bowles as chief of staff of the White House or president of the United States, I think we would have fixed this fiscal mess by now," Ryan said on NBC's "Meet the Press." "[But] that’s not the kind of presidency we’re dealing with right now.” Bowles was chief of staff to former President Bill Clinton, and currently co-chairs the Campaign to Fix The Debt, a bipartisan deficit reduction effort.
An early endorsement of Hillary that I'm sure we'll hear again in 2016!
John II| 1.27.13 @ 7:57PM
There's some plausibility in Ryan's remark. The degenerate Bubba DID sign the welfare reform bill after being backed into a corner. The upside to the Clintons' habitual slipperiness often took the form of inadvertent fiscal responsibility.
RCV| 1.28.13 @ 11:05AM
There was nothing inadvertent about the good governance of the Clinton years, in constrast to the bumbling 8 years that followed, a disaster from which we are still recovering.
John II| 1.29.13 @ 2:48PM
Correction: a disaster precipitated by irresponsible mortgage practices mandated for more than a generation by smug liberals and exacerbated by two years of a degenerate and reckless liberal majority in Congress (made possible by a weak presidency, to be sure) and now perpetuated by outmoded lefty nostrums. We are not "recovering," and we won't so long as we are being ruled by an infantile regime.
The intermittent "good governance of the Clinton years" was forced on Bubba by a relatively conservative congressional majority for the last six years of his degenerate tenure.
And that's not even "history," Roberto. That's current events. (Actually, Brit historians are inclined to view everything that's happened since 1914 as "current events" still too fresh and immediately consequential to afford a historical perspective. Myself, I prefer to think of 1789 that way.)
That reminds me. I wanted to ask you something about the current condition of law schools in America, a question sparked by a student of mine a few years ago for whom I wrote a recommendation. This thread is already getting pretty old, so you probably won't have occasion to respond--but I'll try to remember to bring up the issue on our next skirmish.
Tina B| 1.29.13 @ 8:41AM
Good governance? Good governance? Opinions are like certain body parts. Everyone has one. Clinton is a murderous liar, serial womaniser and rapist, and a profligate as well as a hypocrite. Other than that, he was really good for America and especially for RCV. Like attracts like, I guess.
Marc Jeric| 1.29.13 @ 8:51AM
Let us not forget the murder of Vince Foster when discussing that lying b**ch Hillary!
sotto voce| 2.1.13 @ 7:53PM
What makes Hillary Love so terrifying is that its ignorant practitioners may well propel her into the White House. The public life of this appalling woman has been one of lying, cheating and prevaricating. When faced with questions she can't or won't answer, she either yells or cries and is praised for "grace" and "dignity" by her morally bankrupt supporters. Is this the best example of female character and accomplishment that the Left can muster?
mlaforet | 2.2.13 @ 10:14AM
I was glad to see Johnson questioning and yes, it was very important and if the judges can't see her posturing, we're all sunk. America has died. Her bullying tactics strike me as very similar to Mr. O's and as far as I'm concerned should not hold any credence in a civil sociaty.
HB| 2.2.13 @ 12:20PM
What better circumstances could an ambitious woman need than a population of males with a Cray-Dell scepter under her opposing thumbs in their hands? While Bill's weakening in the rear of his knees while his divining rod was dipping towards water under any new skirt that passed by, the calculating women of the new order were busy sweeping away any mess from coat hanger scrapings; and quite euphemistically tying a soiled tampon as a blind fold behind his head as he squirmed on his knees to bigger mammory's and an even bigger upload into her cognizance. What better time in history than now to get a few button pushing pussies to format the mainframe to lead the males down a prim rose path? No time like the present, so they say.
Marc Jeric| 2.2.13 @ 4:24PM
Our socialists, communists, eco-Nazis and other Democrats praised that utter lying POS Hillary Clinton (or was it Rodham?) as “the greatest Secretary of State ever”. Our timid and gutless RINOS never asked that criminal to tell us the real purpose of that Benghazi outpost. When she declared: “What does it matter now?” – not a single RINO said “Because you lied to the American people!” No RINO asked the big question: “Who gave the order to our military to stand down when our ambassador asked for help?” Only one person could have issued that order – our Commander-in-Chief Obama. In her view the Benghazi affair was just a small glitch in the Obama’s Arab Spring program designed to bring jihadist governments to Muslim countries and the consequent destruction of Israel. By the end of that congressional “investigation” Hillary’s nose was two feet long., comparable to Mullah Obama’s Pinocchio-like nose. I remember well the Hilary’s ingenuity while still in college, when she renamed Marxism by calling it “politics of meaning”. Among other awards collected by Hillary Rodham Clinton is the Margaret Sander Award by the Planned Parenthood of America, thus joining the fellow recipients Jane Fonda and Ted Turner, and celebrating the 300,000 annual abortions performed by the PP.
Troon62| 2.2.13 @ 9:12PM
As much as I agree with your assessment of Madam Secretary, I have zero faith that she will ever be held accountable for her horrendous record of public service. Likeminded folks had best be prepared to counter the inevitable mainstream media coronation of her in 2016.