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Streetcar Line
Conservatives Underperform Our Issues
The political right communicates wrong(ly).
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And so on. Sometimes more words are needed to make meanings plain. Sometimes a huge reduction in words is needed. What’s important is not the number of words, but their qualities of clarity, understandability, and apparent relevance.
Columnist Deroy Murdock is tremendously skilled at these honest improvements in language, and blogger/former top Senate aide Jim Guirard is skilled at clever re-labeling. In truth, decent wordsmiths abound. What’s needed aren’t fancy words, but ones that clearly communicate straightforward ideas and simple truths.
It remains a travesty that conservatives in elections so frequently under-perform the conservative polling advantages on hosts of issues. The losses result not just from poor communicating, but from a series of factors that includes poor strategy, poor tactics, weak legislating, insufficient technological prowess, and insufficient attention to face-to-face, neighbor-to-neighbor campaigning. But poor communicating heads the list, and it ought to be the easiest to fix.
Conservatives remain a majority (or a very large plurality) — and while we certainly aren’t silent, we all too often have been pathetically tongue-tied. The cause of limited government requires that we find, and use, a new political Rosetta Stone.
About the Author
Quin Hillyer is a senior editor of The American Spectator and a senior fellow at the Center for Individual Freedom. Follow him on Twitter @QuinHillyer.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 1.23.13 @ 6:19AM
The Republicans need to spend some money and send every member through a training camp for the new media.
They also need to respond with facts as soon as opportunities present themselves.
On the day of the inauguration they should have immediately had a counter proposal to Obama's fantasy green energy program and should have put some charts online to show how much EPA proposed regulations are going to cost each household.
Americans are cracking under the strain of ever higher costs tied to Washington. It's easy to show how it works. All you need is the smallest amount of ambition.
Will it be found?
Aristocat| 1.23.13 @ 6:26AM
The phrase "Cheese-eating surrender Monkeys" now applies to House Republicans, as they have voted to eliminate the debt ceiling, giving Obama carte blanche to add $Trillions more in debt without congressional approval.
Jack in Wi| 1.23.13 @ 6:47AM
Lee Atwater RIP. He was the only reason Bush ever won in 1988. The liberal Republicans who control the party hate the social issues that most of their constituients believe in. The only reason GW Bush won in 2004 was the vast voter get out of Christians who voted against gay marriage, in referenda that year. Romney was a pro-abortion pro-homsexuality New England liberal. He refused to use these issues against Obama. He also refused to address the issues of Ron Paul libertarians. When you diss the 2 most important groups in your party, even a billion dollars of plutocrat money won't buy you the presidency. The Democrats are the party of endless war, abortion, homosexuality, sky high taxes, government waste fraud and abuse, gun theft and corrupt government unions. The Republicans refuse to fire all the bullets in their amunition box because the elites don't want to. It is time to finally take over the party or destroy and replace it. For once Quin does an outstanding job.
Teflon93 | 1.23.13 @ 7:15AM
"The liberal Republicans who control the party hate the social issues that most of their constituents believe in."
Ding ding ding!
THAT is the communications issue. Somebody tell Quin.
GobBluthe| 1.23.13 @ 8:03AM
It beyond that. It is DC GOP who want to be like on the pages of the WaPo and get invited to Georgetown parties. The consultants are the root of be problem and possibly the wives. I've heard that Cantor's wife is a big fan of the party circuit and gets an earful from liberals and has thus tried to move her husband left.
Quin Hillyer| 1.23.13 @ 11:39AM
For the record, I have indeed written as much (re social issues) numerous times in the past few months.
TLP| 1.23.13 @ 2:03PM
It's not just that they don't know how to Frame the Argument, although you are absolutely right on that point.
It's more than that.
They could come up with a Cure For Cancer, and the MSM would refuse to print it.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
The Fourth Estate has, long since, become a Fifth Column in this Country.
Period.
Occam's Tool| 1.23.13 @ 8:59PM
And that's why you need an Atwater, to frame a wildfire argument that the MSM must report, like Dan Rather's screwup that cost him his job.
Romney didn't have the fire. I would have checked out the bathhouse issue on Obama. I would have forced the release of the Khalidi tapes. I would have run ads showing a (CGI) cop being blown up in slow motion, blood splattering across the screen, screaming in agony, and noted that Obama is a friend of a cop killing couple.
In short, The Dems need a Marciano powered punch to the nads.
Jerrypoodle| 1.27.13 @ 5:59PM
The problem is the cat is out of the bag and people hate Republican/Tea party policies. The policies themselves are exclusionary and hateful. As time goes on the Democratic coalition is growing and Conservative positions are doomed.
Occam's Tool| 1.23.13 @ 8:55PM
Atwater rocked and rolled. We need another attack dog. he died far too soon.
C. Vernon Crisler | 1.23.13 @ 9:16AM
For the thousandth time Jackboot in WI, the Republicans are not going to become a McGovernite party, nor should they embrace Rothbardian anarchism, nor should they throw Jews, "Zionists," or Israel under the bus, as you would have them do.
TLP| 1.23.13 @ 2:12PM
He doesn't wanna throw the Jews under that Bus.
He wants to Cram them all into the Bus, so he can BLOW IT UP.
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 9:25AM
Republican wussies have caved, as I said they would. Spineless worms just waiting for Obama to tell them when to bend over.
Tom Kyba| 1.23.13 @ 12:32PM
In other words, your kinda' people.
Joellen| 1.23.13 @ 3:00PM
Purp the perp who advocates "conservatives lay back and enjoy the rape". Such words of wisdom never to to be spoken by a finer lib.
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 4:01PM
Honey - those were the words of a Republican Congressman - Hahaha .. and you don't even know it.
I simply repeated his words to criticize your Conservdum view of Rape. You have at least 1/2 the Republican House of RapeResentatives that believe the same thing.
CJW| 1.23.13 @ 6:49PM
Purpie the Village Idiot
"Purp| 11.7.12 @ 1:16PM
The unborn have no rights - they are biological entities until God allows them to be born."
How stupid can you get? God decides who gets an abortion. What religion says God decides who get an abortion, and what is the basis for such?
Teflon93 | 1.23.13 @ 7:14AM
The problem is many politicians who self-identify as "conservative" are no such thing, thus explaining their inability to communicate conservative principles. cf. Mitt Romney.
Quartermaster| 1.23.13 @ 8:49AM
This is a problem of the country in general. So many (see Mr. O*****'s Tool) will talk the talk, but when they're issue comes up, they'll support a leftist that does something they like. Things like that are a veeeeeeeeeery serious problem and marks a person who does them as a pseudo-conservative. They're really are very few conservatives in this country and that's why Zer0 got re-elected.
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 9:26AM
Republicans aren't conservative enough... too wussie.
CJW| 1.23.13 @ 6:49PM
Purpie the Village Idiot
"Purp| 11.7.12 @ 1:16PM
The unborn have no rights - they are biological entities until God allows them to be born."
How stupid can you get? God decides who gets an abortion. What religion says God decides who get an abortion, and what is the basis for such?
Occam's Tool| 1.23.13 @ 9:01PM
Franken hasn't passed the looney bill yet. If he doesn't succeed, the deal's off. Have you ever had to take down a violent psychotic who has only been intermittently medicated, QM? If not, shut your gob.
To overcome this, Franken would need to kick the ACLU in the balls. I doubt that he will do it.
R Martin| 1.23.13 @ 7:40AM
Perhaps Republicans should take a page from the business playbook and find someone who knows how to sell (communication in its most effective form). For example, find that guy who about 50 years ago secured the American Dental Association Seal of Approval for Crest toothpaste. Now, there’s a guy who knew the essential elements of selling. Procter & Gamble probably has scads of them, and they know how to persuade people—which is really what Mr. Hillyer is talking about.
Obama found guys who could market and persuade in Jim Messina, David Plouffe and the odious little Axelrod. Why can’t the Republicans?
Pecos Pete| 1.23.13 @ 8:42AM
Ricky: My thoughts exactly. A good marketing guy could sell wool to sheep. Our problem is that the national republican Ruling Class likes the current situation. They simply want to share in the graft and corruption and power. As long as they control the republican party there will be no cohesive and strong marketing plan.
CJW| 1.23.13 @ 9:22AM
I agree. But Dem voters are more easily convinced and manipulated, like the Village Idiots here, by offers of condoms, cell phones, and in 2016 probably free cable. Republicans, especially conservatives, are smarter and expect an honest presentation of the facts.
The other problem is that so many receive money and benefits thorugh the tax code and directly from the government so they keep voting for Santa Claus. As Quin states, even so called conservatives will favor Dems that fund the project(s) they like or pass the tax cut/credit they like,
R Martin| 1.23.13 @ 10:46AM
Pecos, I think you’re dead right about the Republican ruling class. They hold onto power by touting past success yet failing miserably in the present. It’s sort of like the Pittsburgh Steelers claiming a right to the Lombardi Trophy this year because, well, they were really good in previous seasons.
CJW| 1.23.13 @ 11:26AM
RMartin
How did you know that I was going to say the Steelers will claim a right to the Lombardi trophy because we won SIX Super Bowls, and we usually beat the Ravens, who will beat the Pelosi Forty Niners?
R Martin| 1.23.13 @ 12:39PM
I’m a Steeler fan too and I thought you might comment, but I didn’t mean to steal your thunder. People like you and me have to regard the coming Super Bowl with disinterest. I always hope those loathsome Ravens whose home is the Baltimore municipal pig lot and who boast a roster of felons lose every game they play. Then again, I would never wish a win on any team even remotely associated with little Commandant Pelosi. I’m hoping for good weather so I can be outside and not have to watch it.
TLP| 1.23.13 @ 2:16PM
Let me Sum this up for all of you Contestants.
The Republicans could come up with a Cure For Cancer, and the MSM would refuse to print it.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
The Fourth Estate has, long since, become a Fifth Column in this Country.
Period.
Don't be afraid to ask me for help, next time.
TLP| 1.23.13 @ 2:20PM
I realize that you probably think that I'm starting to become Conceited.
Don't worry. I'm not.
I'm Perfect, so I can't be Conceited.
CJW| 1.23.13 @ 3:09PM
RMartin
agree 100%. I went to the 79 SB at Pasadena where we beat the Rams. Great game
Lynn Swann ran for governor of Pa in 2006 against Fast Eddy Randell, and the MSM just yawned that a black Republican ran for gov
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 7:54AM
Yeah, that's right. It's the words used, not the policy that matters. Communicate better.
Yeah, then Grandma won't care that you're stealing her Medicare and dumping the rise in costs on her. Veterans won't care that you cut their future disability checks with "slow down" of costs. Yeah, that's it. You have to be better at Propaganda, not truth. Yep that's the ticket.
Seems not that long ago you people were laughing and snarky about the Democratic President saying he didn't communicate well enough his policies ... you laughed, you ridiculed and you chortled how ridiculous it sounded.
Oh, but now, you need to communicate better. Hmmmm... Shoes on the other foot now, huh? LMFAO... PMSL
CJW| 1.23.13 @ 9:23AM
Purpie the Village Idiot
Nobody will play with you today.
loulou| 1.23.13 @ 11:49AM
CJW: Just ignore the loser.
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 4:02PM
You do fool !! What an idiot.
CJW| 1.23.13 @ 6:50PM
Purpie the Village Idiot
"Purp| 11.7.12 @ 1:16PM
The unborn have no rights - they are biological entities until God allows them to be born."
How stupid can you get? God decides who gets an abortion. What religion says God decides who get an abortion, and what is the basis for such?
Al Adab| 1.23.13 @ 8:31AM
On almost every policy issue, the voters are on the side of republicans and Conservatives. Nonetheless the votes continue to go to those on The Left because for too long we have been told to think with our hearts, our emotions, rather than with reason and logic.
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 8:50AM
ROFL .... yep that's it. Voters love Republican policies - "deficits don't matter", only the rich get more tax cuts, "guns don't kill people", endless war, "Legitimate Rape", women and minorities are second class citizens...
Yep, those good ol' Republican policies are so popular in America.
ROFL
PolishKnight| 1.23.13 @ 12:53PM
Versus white males as second class citizens... And Obama is spending way out of control. And when is Obama doing to shut down Guantanemo? And guns don't kill people? Most gang bangers are democrat voters (or would be except for pesky laws prohibiting felons from voting...)
Yeah yeah yeah, blame the Republicans but what exactly does the Dem party really stand for except for bashing white guys? Eventually, the Republicans will figure this out and then that's the end of the game. Your party is basically Detroit as the affluent flee.
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 4:10PM
First of all -- White Males are not and never have been second class citizens. I know, because I am one, and I know all the advantages we have ... but maybe there's something wrong with you?
Republicans won't make deals to compromise on spending and revenue. Clearly, the President has tried over and over again - so "Blame Yo'Self"...
Gang Bangers Vote? Really? You have no conception do you?
It won't be too long, your Grand Old Pedophile Party will be 30% or less and shrinking. You may as well get used to losing.
The Republican Party does not hold ALL white guys - there's plenty white men that are smart enough to know better or would be ashamed to be called Republican or Conservadums.
PolishKnight| 1.24.13 @ 9:18AM
Hahaha! Purp, you don't have many advantages. You're just a loser, troll cheerleader for a half black man on AmSpec! You probably live in your mother's basement.
Your defense illustrates your own hypocrisy: If a white male isn't "advantaged", then there's "something wrong with him" (his fault.) But indeed, if you're not successful and yet you still bash your fellow white males as advantaged, that really says something about you and how little you have to offer the world.
Regarding Pedophiles. Check out Barny Franks. Oh, wait, he's from an area where Senators drown secretaries and pretend to be Indian princesses.
And the remaining white males are fleeing the Democrat party and have been for some time. Now a majority of them. It's like an IQ test (or a test of character) and you fail both. You're such a WINNER Purp. Betcha you don't have a girlfriend. I think if you were gay, you would at least have a life.
Purp| 1.24.13 @ 10:16AM
No, I was talking specifically about YOU, never amounted to anything so it's somebody else to blame.
Basement? I wish... would be cheaper. LOL.
Nevertheless, if you need a bogeyman to blame, blaming someone else for your problems is what you do. And the rich and powerful have played the bait and switch on you and you believe them.
Barney Franks is gay - not a pedophile. You do know the difference, don't you? Or is that something else you don't know?
No, I don't have a girlfriend - but my wife might be a bit more concerned about that if I did than you are.
White males are about 1/2 of 1/2 of the population, which makes them about 25% of the population. And not all of them are Republican.
Republicans are approx 30-32% of the Electorate.
Hmmmm, your odds aren't looking very good for the Guns Over People party.
Maybe you'll have better luck nominating Governor Blimp from NJ next time.
CJW| 1.23.13 @ 6:50PM
Purpie the Village Idiot
"Purp| 11.7.12 @ 1:16PM
The unborn have no rights - they are biological entities until God allows them to be born."
How stupid can you get? God decides who gets an abortion. What religion says God decides who get an abortion, and what is the basis for such?
C. Vernon Crisler | 1.23.13 @ 9:19AM
The sad fact is that is has never been a problem with the conservative message or how it was delivered. We simply cannot hide from the fact any longer that a majority of Americans are morons. Winning elections in this country ultimately depends on if you can fool enough morons to cast the right vote despite their stupidity.
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 9:23AM
The rest of the country has awakened to the propaganda and subjugation promulgated by the right and it's Corporate Feudal masters. Conservadums have not awakened to the fact they ARE the serfs to their Corporate Lords.
Don't call anyone else a moron when you can't see in the mirror what you have become.
C. Vernon Crisler | 1.23.13 @ 10:07AM
I knew it would happen to you eventually Perp. You're actually beginning to sound like Jackboot in WI.
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 4:14PM
Beginning to sound like? Where have you been?
Petronius| 1.23.13 @ 11:00AM
Is serfdom to Liberal tyrants any better?
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 4:18PM
If you mean an elected official you consider a tyrant- YES, a 1000 times yes...
Why? Because we can elect new officials IF they actually don't do what Americans, as a majority, want.
Good Luck getting rid of your Koch Bros. masters or Sheldon Adelson. You cannot, you will not, it ain't gonna happen.
A Corporatocracy is far worse than a Governor or President elected by the people that CAN be removed from office through another election.
YOU may think our President is a tyrant, I don't.
Have you ever had a tyrant boss at your job? How did you get rid of him?
CJW| 1.23.13 @ 6:52PM
Purp the Village Idiot says God caused Hurricane Sandy to help Obama. Purpie believes God killed hundreds and destroyed millions of dollars of property to help Obama win:
"Purp| 11.8.12 @ 10:35AM
"The Lord rules, not Obama." - CORRECT!
The Lord works in mysterious ways... and this is something for the faithful to contemplate in the way the see the world:
Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials.
Some soul searching of conservative attitudes is in order, for sure."
Why answer this stupid, bigoted moron, just mock and ridicule
Simon Templar| 1.23.13 @ 11:44AM
Purv,
You are a moron and a village idiot.
News Flash....get it through your lame brain...
Corporate Feudal masters are in collusion with Big Government. It is one political class, ass.
Simon Templar| 1.23.13 @ 12:05PM
GE and Wall Street and tons of other Corporate Giants financed the election of your comrade and leader, moron.
Most large corporations love Obamacare, they are looking forward to the day that they no longer have to provide any benefits, village idiot. They love the bailouts, the free money, corporate welfare, and the sweet deals your leaders give them on exceptions to government regulation and tax. Please do not make me show an idiot like you seven dozen examples of democrats and so-called progressives doing just this....if your that stupid..you are hopeless.
The community reinvestment act was a great example. Force banks to make very bad loans, then tell them they can sell them back to the government and package them into derivative investment instruments to spread the risk.
PolishKnight| 1.23.13 @ 12:27PM
It's rather funny that when I point this out to leftists they get silent or change the subject. It means that their whole utopian marxist agenda is now largely moot. And it has been for 40 years really (or more). Now the left is an openly white male bashing party which means that the goal of Western European utopia is laughable. It's a pyrrhic victory.
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 4:51PM
See below ... but here's a taste of the rebuttal to your ridiculous thoughts ...
"Yep, a 30 year old program is far more to blame than a 10 year old repeal of a 70 year old program that kept us safe from Depression for those 70 years. Yep, you're right."
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 4:50PM
How stupid. Corporations not providing healthcare makes them more competitive, like the rest of the world we compete with.
So, universal, single-payer, Medicare for all would do more to increase growth in this country than anything else we could do. let's hope that comes sooner rather than later. You don't understand that, do you?
And, right, let's blame a 30 year-old CRA (which did not force, but encouraged lending - I dare you to prove otherwise) for causing the 2008 meltdown. Let's not blame Republican-pushed repeal of the Glass-Stegall Act in 1999 that allowed Banks to make risky Investments with their customers' money - and less than 10 years later the economy blew up.
Yep, a 30 year old program is far more to blame than a 10 year old repeal of a 70 year old program that kept us safe from Depression for those 70 years. Yep, you're right.
Yep, risk for $ 200,000 homes is far more dangerous to us than Trillions of dollars of CDO's sold by Wall Street all over the world so complex that no one still knows what's in them. Seriously, you believe that?
Simon Templar| 1.23.13 @ 6:55PM
Oh, purp, purp, so naive, so brainwashed, and so stupid. You are also a liar, actually bold faced liar.
Well purpie then why did they write the health care bill forcing businesses to provide health care with large tax penalties if they do not? Did you somehow forget that? Corporations are not competitive because we have the highest corporate tax rates in the world purpie boy, a well know fact. Socialized medicine has never worked anywhere and has not resulted in anything but higher inevitable cost, poor health care, rationing,
less doctors, and less medical technological development. That' s why they all come here for advanced medicine, another well know fact.
Simon Templar| 1.23.13 @ 6:55PM
The point is, and you keep missing it, is the government cares about you as much as the Big corporations do and they both work together to daily fleece us all. this is what we call crony capitalism, a concept you apparently just can not grasp. The CRA is directly responsible for the financial crisis we are in and it is not a program, moron that just happened to exist thirty years ago but remains today and is continuing to make bad loans and reloans, idiot boy. The housing crisis that spun this all off in 2008 was 4 trillion, jerk boy, in defaults. Yes, banks were intimidated and forced by the government to make these loans, another well know fact. Let's do blame the republicans for their special interest corruption as well. In fact the 15 billion a month that Bush spent on Iraq for ten and counting years can be put on the pile as well. But you rather obfuscate, mislead, and lie about all of it with big bad wolf Republican government and corporations and good and wonderful Big democratic government and corporations on the other. Keep reading your bedtime fairy tales...
Simon Templar| 1.23.13 @ 6:58PM
Purpie boy, banks are in business to make risky investments, that is what they do for a living. They are not in business to make risky loans to lenders that they are forced to lend to by government intrusion.
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 8:42PM
No Simon - that's what changed in 1999 - Go back and do some research.
From the 1930's until 1999, Banks were not allowed to invest their customers' money in very risky Wall Street Market Instruments (not Housing or Commercial Real Estate). There was a wall between Investment Banking and Commercial (Bank Accounts) Banking...
When that wall was knocked down in 1999, within 10 years, we had a crash. The same thing happened in the lead-up to 1929's crash - hence the Glass-Stegall Act to stop those bad investments by the banks we all count on to keep money flowing.
In addition, there were less controls on investments than on banking, so more banks borrowed more to lend out and kept less capital reserves - that's why many of the Big Banks almost collapsed or had to be bought out.
Let me know when you've done your homework and enlightened yourself in Finance. You will find you've been lied to by Rush and Sean and Fixed News in general - at least not given the whole story.
Simon Templar| 1.24.13 @ 8:51AM
Fairy tale provided by your media politburo.
One political class, ass!
PolishKnight| 1.24.13 @ 9:20AM
Thank Bill Clinton for demanding that banks make risky loans to women and minorities because housing ALWAYS goes up (Ben Stein says so :-) Now you're blaming the victims for the racist policies of the left. As usual.
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 8:35PM
"the government cares about you as much as the Big corporations do and they both work together to daily fleece us all." - you are absolutely right - when Republicans are in charge. Let me remind you of "K" Street, Tom Delay, Duke Cunningham, Jack Abramoff - ya know, the ones that created the Culture of Corruption?
Add KBR, Halliburton, Blackwater Corps and there you have it ... All Republican based entitites.
And, please don't insult us with the odd Democratic issue, like say a Solyndra investment ... it's peanuts compared to just, oh, pick one - Halliburton that make Billions on no-bid contracts under Baby Bush and the Republican Congress.
You simply can't see that, yes, there are problems on both sides, but they are so much worse on the Republican side.
Simon Templar| 1.24.13 @ 8:47AM
More fairy tales and a little pixy dust, purpie?
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 8:22PM
You have done no research, or you would know better about healthcare around the world. You know nothing about the Corporate taxes that are paid in this country, or you would know they pay less now then in 1980.
You know nothing but what the Corporate Pigs have fed you through their bought, bribed and paid for Conservadum Media Entertainment Complex.
You parrot well, but that is all.
Simon Templar| 1.24.13 @ 8:46AM
More fairy tales.
Purp| 1.24.13 @ 10:18AM
So it's a fairy tale when you don't believe it?
Facts are funny - you don't have to believe them. So where do you get your information? From Fixed News I'll bet. Or maybe Rush Loudmouth.
Try reading any factual material lately? You can't prove a belief.
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 4:32PM
BIG Republican Government is not the same as BIG Democratic Government. When will you get that through your pea brain?
Both parties Kow Tow to Wall Street and BIG Money. But Republicans always want to take something from the workers and give to the owners. Over the last 30 years, that's all they've ever done.
Republicans say they want healthcare reform, but in 2001-2007 when they controlled Congress and the Presidency they did nothing - except add a Trillion dollars for Medicare Part D to the National Debt, unpaid for.
They say they want border security - and yet President Obama has put more security on the border and deported more illegals than Bush did in 8 years.
I could go on and on ...
Alternatively, the Democrats protect Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, Unions, Science, Education, Veterans, Children, and many others for the AMERICAN people - nothing Corps care about.
I know you have no answers for these items - but calling me a moron doesn't change that you are still a Serf to your Corporate Masters and their Shills in the Republican Congress. And you support them?
Who's the moron again?
CJW| 1.23.13 @ 6:53PM
Purp the Village Idiot says God caused Hurricane Sandy to help Obama. Purpie believes God killed hundreds and destroyed millions of dollars of property to help Obama win:
"Purp| 11.8.12 @ 10:35AM
"The Lord rules, not Obama." - CORRECT!
The Lord works in mysterious ways... and this is something for the faithful to contemplate in the way the see the world:
Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials.
Some soul searching of conservative attitudes is in order, for sure."
Why answer this stupid, bigoted moron, just mock and ridicule
Simon Templar| 1.23.13 @ 7:14PM
You are, once again, and apparently always.
How shall we deconstruct your fairy tale?
You just admitted both parties kow tow to Wall street and BIG MONEY. You just agreed with me and you can not see the idiocy in your following argument, if you can call it that...
I will keep it simple for you to grasp..
Both parties have essentially done nothing about border security for different and similar motivations. Dems want to import more illegals for eventual voting blocks of new entitlement classes. Pubs do not want to upset business that makes money off these non tax paying non benefit illegals and does not want to alienate completely the Hispanics and be called racist by the other bunch of idiots in DC. The Republicans offered numerous bills on health care reform and they were all shot down by a press and dems that they wanted to take grannys health care away. Yes, Bush placating and reacting to these charges like a good progressive Republican pushed through another unpaid for entitlement to show he did not want to push granny over the cliff. Unpaid for?
You are kidding right? Eight trillion of deficit spending in 4 years and 16 trillion in liabilities racked up by democrats who spent all the money they were suppose to save for social security and medicare.
Simon Templar| 1.23.13 @ 7:32PM
Oh yes, purpie, I have a lot of answers and I will play with you today just for kicks.
Democrats protect Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, Unions, Science, Education, Veterans, Children, and many others for the AMERICAN people - nothing Corps care about...blah..blah..blah. Yeah, they protected these programs...NOT.
Well, let us use a bit of logic here.
Big Government, Pub and Dem get BIG Money from BIG Corporations. Big gov kow tows to BIG Corporate. How does BIG GOV kow tow to BIG Corp, that is the question, moron. Perhaps to serve the interest of BIG Corp?
Well, maybe to take over many of the functions the private sector should be providing for itself, shifting tax burden away from them to the middle classes, devaluing the dollar so that they can sell more goods here, giving them corporate welfare and bail outs when they screw up and make bad decisions, protecting unions when it benefits their political and financial interest, giving them cheap money to create economic bubbles, writing law that restrict upstart competition and encourages monopolies, giving them billions for start up capital and development they can squander on the latest politically correct industry while punishing others, encouraging treaties with other countries that do not benefit the US citizen but the financial interest of a few select companies.....
Simon Templar| 1.23.13 @ 7:35PM
Are you reading and comprehending, purpie?
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 8:50PM
"Dems want to import more illegals for eventual voting blocks of new entitlement classes." - that's a talking point invented to make Republicans seem less stupid .. "See, Democrats do it too".. Sounds like a 10 year old talking to Mommy doesn't it? And just as dumb.
Name one Healthcare bill that passed the Republican House (majority wins you know, in the House) during Bush's 8 years? Any in the Senate (where it IS much harder to pass anything - which is stupid no matter who is in charge there)?
If Bush HAD paid for the 2 wars of choice, his tax cuts weighted heavily to the rich, AND the Medicare Part D bill, we would be in much better shape fiscally. They did it purposely to bankrupt the country. At least the "drown it in a bathtub" Repub types did.
Then when the economy crashed, we could sustain deficits much longer and easier to get us through the crisis.
Democrats extended the solvency of Medicare almost a full decade so far, and Social Security is easily put on 75 year solvent grounds. The Social Security Trust Fund has over 2.5 TRILLION Dollars in it - hardly broke.
Republicans have nothing but try to kill both programs one way or the other since their beginnings.
Simon Templar| 1.24.13 @ 8:45AM
Grow up purpie, stop reading fairy tales....
Simon Templar| 1.24.13 @ 9:08AM
The Social Security Trust Fund has over 2.5 TRILLION Dollars in it, yes, 2.5 trillion of IOU's. What an idiot.
Try the Three Little Pigs, next time. We are tired of hearing Little Red Riding Hood and the Big Bad wolf.
Purp| 1.24.13 @ 10:23AM
So are you saying the United States Government will NOT pay it's bills? That is the only way that the Treasury Bills - not IOUs - would not be paid. Treasury Bills are not like credit card statements. They ARE actual money.
And you call me an idiot. LMFAO
You see, the fact is that Treasury Bills are THE safest investment in the world. The World. Yep they are. Even with a fool for a Speaker of the House of RapeResentatives.
And, so, my uniformed-one Social Security money is invested in the safest investment there is. Period. No belief, no fairy dust - FACT.
Seems to me like you need to take your head outta yo' a** and pay more attention to the actual facts.
You are the only one talking about fairy tales.
CJW| 1.23.13 @ 6:51PM
Purp the Village Idiot says God caused Hurricane Sandy to help Obama. Purpie believes God killed hundreds and destroyed millions of dollars of property to help Obama win:
"Purp| 11.8.12 @ 10:35AM
"The Lord rules, not Obama." - CORRECT!
The Lord works in mysterious ways... and this is something for the faithful to contemplate in the way the see the world:
Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials.
Some soul searching of conservative attitudes is in order, for sure."
Why answer this stupid, bigoted moron, just mock and ridicule
Simon Templar| 1.23.13 @ 7:40PM
I think I did both.
Thanks CJW for back up.
CJW| 1.23.13 @ 10:26PM
Simon
Excellent work in your comments. I know that you know it is wasted on the Village Idiot, but it is informative for the rest of us.
Keep the faith, brother.
Simon Templar| 1.24.13 @ 9:02AM
Thanks again CJW.
Here are two links you may find very informative on the issue and they actually address directly purpies misconceptions and obsufication.
I would suggest anyone else interested take a look at them. One of them is by a Yale law School academic, hardly a Tea Partier, that was written in 1993 WARNING and analyzing the CRA and its impact on the economy, banking, and impending crisis.
http://articles.businessinside.....gage-rates
http://digitalcommons.law.yale.....fss_papers
Yes, ignore purpie for the most part. He still thinks and will always think Bill Clinton feels his pain and Bush is the devil. What a fool.
Purp| 1.24.13 @ 10:39AM
Ruh-Roh - the Yale Study isn't QUITE what you make it out to be...
"In 1989, however, Congress greatly enhanced the CRA's impact as part of the comprehensive banking legislation of that year." Under HW Bush... oh my.
Nevertheless, the authors see problems with the CRA but .... "We have no quarrel with, and in fact applaud, the goals of the CRA. The economic revitalization of America's inner cities is in everyone's enlightened interest. Nor do we question the motives or good faith of groups
that benefit from the statute. Many socially conscious and altruistic people have utilized the statute to advance what they reasonably
believe to be worthwhile causes. Further, we recognize that the CRA has benefited some people in inner-city neighborhoods, as well as some small businesspeople, small farmers, and the like"
Their solutions, amongst revisiting the CRA for improvement and Credit Unions, etc. are sound ideas probably - But none of this points to the CRA being the sole or even a reason for the BUSH Economic Crash in 2008.
Checkmate. Try again Simon.
CJW| 1.24.13 @ 5:18PM
Thanks, Simon. Will read.
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 8:54PM
"Why answer"? - Because, pinhead, some people have a brain and actually have something say - not like you and your pathetic attempts at copy/paste destruction.
You're so dumb, you don't see Conservative words in everything you paste that I was ridiculing. Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Ralph Reed, Ronald Reagan, GW Bush and others.
Every time you paste them, you're ridiculing your own, but your too stupid to know... LMFAO ... Notice, few of your own say anything to you - because they see what you don't , PINHEAD.... ROFL.... hahahahaha and a LOSER to boot.
CJW| 1.23.13 @ 10:34PM
Purpie the Village Idiot
Purpie still thinks that Romney's plan to cut the tax rate would have increased Purpie's 0% rate to 8%:
"Purp| 8.9.12 @ 2:13PM
Did you pass Math in school?
If I pay no income tax today, but by Romney's plan, 10% goes to 8%, but I pay nothing today - how do I not pay 8% more than I do today?
8% Romney - 0% today = 8% tax on my income, whatever it is.
Reply to this
CJW| 8.9.12 @ 4:02PM
Listen slowly idiot, 10% goes to 8% only if you area at 10%.
If you are at 0%, like you because you are too stupid to work, then you remain at 0% . You do not go to 8%
I am going to save this for a purpie screen shot. You actually believe that your rate goes from 0 to 8 because there is a reduction from 10 to 8."
Purp| 1.24.13 @ 10:41AM
If you are at 0% and the tax base is to be broadened, tell me how you will not be asked to pay more in taxes, which in effect is how you "broaden the tax base"?
Is this concept beyond your comprehension?
You have NEVER answered the question - "what does broadening the tax base mean?" I have given you one route - do you know any other?
OMG you are so dumb.
CJW| 1.24.13 @ 5:18PM
Purpie the Village Idiot
Give up, moron. If you are at 0 like you, you would have remained at zero, like you. Romney never said he was raising 0 to 8, that is your stupid and feeble attempt to lie about saying something even you realize is stupid.
You are a lying moron.
But everyone here knows you are a lying moron. So keep posting, you are always good for a laugh.
Russel| 1.23.13 @ 8:45AM
The authors premise can be boiled down to the same bane we've faced for decades - the liberal ( now socialist ) media . The ' poll ' is nothing more than one weapon in their arsenal . And as Rush rightly pointed out yest .. , it is moot to argue how phrasing any issue will get one favorable coverage , because ANY sentence that comes out of a conservatives mouth will be spun to fit their agenda . Spin ( aka , lying ) , another weapon in their arsenal . Nope , this whole discussion is a waste of time . The huge celebration by the Lamestreams during the inaug is proof enough .
The Big E| 1.23.13 @ 9:38AM
Much of what Quin discusses, and what many posters here mention is well, is a lack of effective communication. But that's really only a small part of it. Ronald Reagan was known as "the great communicator," but his skills as a communicator were not as important as his understanding of what he was trying to communicate. Reagan did not attempt to convince voters that he was anything other than what he was. He communicated effectively because he was honest, intelligent, and passionate about what he was commicating.
Republican today should do that, but they can't. They have bought into the myth of the independent voter, and in their quest to a voter who does not really exist, they abandon the very qualities which made Reagan an effective communicator. They cannot be honest, for fear their honest belief will turn off the independent voter. They cannot communicate effectively, because they are communicating things they have been told to say, rather than ideas they innately understand, and they cannot communicate with passion, because they have for passion for the ideas they are communcating.
The Big E| 1.23.13 @ 9:41AM
Let me try that last paragraph again without the typos:
Republicans today should do that, but they can't. They have bought into the myth of the independent voter, and in their quest to woo a voter who does not really exist, they are forced to abandon the very qualities which made Reagan an effective communicator. They cannot be honest because they fear their honest belief will turn off the independent voter. They cannot communicate intelligently because they are communicating things they have been told to say, rather than ideas they innately understand. They cannot communicate with passion, because they have no passion for the ideas they are communcating.
Quin Hillyer| 1.23.13 @ 11:41AM
very well put. I completely agree.
Simon Templar| 1.23.13 @ 11:46AM
The best article you have ever written. You are firing on all cylinders today.
Quin Hillyer| 1.23.13 @ 1:17PM
Wow. Coming from a frequent critic, those are nice words. Thanks!
Anthony| 1.23.13 @ 9:55AM
We don't need a new Rosetta Stone. We need a Rosetta (or Sarah) with Stones.
Reagan kicked lefty ass for breakfast, it's easy, you just need the balls to do it.
Russel| 1.23.13 @ 10:11AM
lol , and Boner 's balls have been in Nancy's purse ( or Harry's pocket ) since she begrudgingly handed him the gavel . He should have slammed her upside the head with it . But no , he cried .
loulou| 1.23.13 @ 11:51AM
Exactly. The problem is lack of conservative convictions then lack of spine 'n stones then finally the inability to communicate.
Sarah scares the ball-less ones.
Shery| 1.23.13 @ 9:56AM
It was good to get some new conservatives elected to the republican party, but since the "party" seems so hell-bent on distancing itself from the conservative base, I wonder that we'll have any success. It seems the calls from the left for the GOP elites to stiff us are being heeded as much as possible. I wonder if the time is right for conservatives to form a new party...just for conservatives. I'd say that there are plenty of conservatives in the democrat party that have been having second thoughts about where their party is taking us and what they should do.
PolishKnight| 1.23.13 @ 10:58AM
No mention of the most significant issue that gets votes for leftists: Race entitlements. It has also driven out most of the white working and middle class to the Republican party. The problem with getting enough votes out is that the Republicans do and say little about the issue and it seems to be timidity. They don't want to be called racist (even as the left are the racist ones). That's allowing the opposition to create the narrative. You can't win when you play by their rules.
But sure, good luck on winning elections with abortion. Or even gay marriage.
Simon Templar| 1.23.13 @ 11:53AM
Did you read the article?
We have been winning on these issues for a long time. Then why does the GOP continually lose and can not stop the progressive advancement?
You are correct in the use of the term racist and its profound negative use to control the political debate. PK, given that we are a plurality in the population, then why do we continual to lose the narratives and the national elections?
We just had a nominee who was soft on both and many others, they still lose.
PolishKnight| 1.23.13 @ 12:24PM
My point is that the issues you refer to are trivial compared to the massive vote getter the left has from race and gender entitlements. Rather than address those head on, for example, Romney instead legitimized them by looking for "binders full of women" to hire. Nevermind the issue that two parent families (especially black families) are threatened by lower wages overall for male breadwinners.
Abortion, gay marriage, etc. are all tablescraps. Until the Republicans address the elephant in the room, pun unintended, they'll continue to lose influence and power as the Dems engage in race and gender scapegoating.
Simon Templar| 1.23.13 @ 6:28PM
I see your point and well taken.
Yes, they need to address these issues head on and stand their ground. So much corruption, lying, and exploitation of these issues has gone on long enough by democrats. I have always believed that these issue could be opportunities in disguise but GOP contains too many fools that are motivated by fear and political correctness. One could imagine a true conservative movement that could conceivably come up with practical solutions to the difficulties of these entitlement groups besides the idiotic democrat programs that have essentially destroyed them. Milton Freidman proposed thirty years ago some very interesting ideas form education to welfare. Hell he wanted to give direct cash to the poor and encouragement to find work and keep the father in the home with incentive and no penalty if someone makes more money and improves himself through further education or training.
Simon Templar| 1.23.13 @ 6:29PM
The liberals administrators and social workers would not have it because it would put most of them out of work. He wanted more charter schools and they fought that as well.
PolishKnight| 1.24.13 @ 9:26AM
I think it's partly fear of the R word but also because they simply don't care, quite frankly. On this very forum, I came across small business owners that like to treat the working class like slaves and secretly love hiring illegals because legal citizens want too much money (they think the free market should work for both sides, amazing eh?) and H1B's. The first thing these semi-legal workers do is register Democrat. You know, Lenin selling the rope to hang them with?
It's not just a matter of standing ground. It's more like simply not selling it away. This is a no-brainer. The old Clint Eastwood/Reagan era of national security, low taxes, say no to drugs, and protect the unborn willing elections is over. Get over it.
Petronius| 1.23.13 @ 11:15AM
First of all, there is no "right" in the Republican Party, or much of one anywhere else. The GOP is a bunch of barnacles on the liberal scow of State who want to strut the quarter deck and glare at the horizon when they get to rename it the USS Graft. As to communicating anything, they could care less, since all they want is our money to campaign on and votes on election day, after which, they have no use for us until next time. Add to it, they don't want the Demoncrat surrogate organizations picketing their homes and offices, stalking and harassing their families, sifting through their trash, and calling them names in public. They are totally cowed. And Speaker Boehner might as well get a pair of safety pins and and wear his white flag on his worthless ass.
Who Knows?| 1.23.13 @ 11:58AM
Here are some pertinent words, written merely 5 years after WWII, which I think apply STILL. My comments inside parenthesis---
“Never has our future been more unpredictable, never have we depended so much on political forces that cannot be trusted to follow the rules of common sense (That would be Obama, mostly) and self-interest (That would be the GOP, mostly)---forces that look like sheer insanity (YUP!), if judged by the standards of other centuries. It is as though mankind had divided itself between those who believe in human omnipotence, who think that everything is possible if one knows how to organize masses for it (That’s Obama and his gang), and those who think powerlessness (Could that be the GOP, nowadays) has become the major experience of their lives.
On the level of historical insight and political thought there prevails an ill-defined, general agreement that the essential structure of all civilizations is at the breaking point. Although it may seem better preserved in some parts of the world than in others, it can nowhere provide the guidance to the possibilities of the century, or an adequate response to its horrors. Desperate hope and desperate fear often seem closer to the center of such events than balanced judgment and measured insight. The central events of our time are not less effectively forgotten by those committed to a belief in an unavoidable doom, than by those who have given themselves up to reckless optimism.
Who Knows?| 1.23.13 @ 11:58AM
Progress and Doom are two sides of the same medal; both are articles of superstition, not faith.”
Preface of “The Origins of Totalitarianism” by Hannah Arendt, written summer 1950
Purp| 1.24.13 @ 10:43AM
Thank You... Definitely a book I don't want to read if that's a central theme. That is just plain weird to compare Progress to Doom, what is the author thinking? Are they off their meds?
Seek| 1.23.13 @ 12:51PM
There's nothing in this p.r.-driven fluff piece that I haven't read hundreds of times before in Frank Luntz 101. The problem with the GOP is not that it "doesn't have a message" or that it "hasn't communicated effectively." The problem is that the electorate is increasingly nonwhite -- that is to say, natural Democrat. Until we conservatives cease in our illusion that we can win without at least 60 percent of the white vote (and that threshold increases with each passing election cycle), we're toast.
Think in terms of race, now more than ever.
Slacker| 1.23.13 @ 2:06PM
I would substitute culture for race but it hardly matters…the results are the same either way.
The poor folks have no idea how truly hated and despised and mocked they are. Sad really.
Simon Templar| 1.23.13 @ 8:09PM
Then maybe you could explain to us how they lost most national elections in the past century, most cultural, social, and economic debates, and continually failed to elect or nominate a true conservative when the population was majority white with a very small population of minorities?
Perhaps you could explain to me why 25 million conservatives sat home and did not vote and the Republican candidate won a double digit lead of the 'holy can not win without them independents' in five of the eight swing states but still lost.
Obviously something else is going on here as well.
Purp| 1.24.13 @ 10:44AM
White guy here - Not Conservadum, Not Republican...
If dumb is natural to Republicans, I guess that's why I am not.
Seek| 1.24.13 @ 11:22PM
You're right. I am a white guy. But I am a conservative Republican. And unlike self-deluded deracinated Red State culture warriors, to whom everything revolves around "values," I'm a realist. Race does matter. But hey, one out of three ain't bad.
Ronsch| 1.23.13 @ 1:03PM
Quin,
I admire your writing and the information you present. However, when we start talking about the "low information voter" aka "Pupr/Arnie/whomever, the only thing they hear is the following:
Conservative message: "Tax rates are too high to produce real wealth in the US. marginal tax rate...blah, blah, blah..."
L-S-D (Liberal-Socialist-Democratic message (aka NerObama and his ilk): "Jay-Z/Beyonce, The View, white rich people bad, make them pay, free stuff..."
Which message do you think gets through to them?
cicero| 1.23.13 @ 2:26PM
The Repubs win on issues when the pols don't count. They lost, not because of their message, but because of their organization. They spent the first half of the cycle (orimaries) tearing one another apart, and handing ammunition to the Dems, and the second half bemoaning the fact that their candidate wasn't perfect. Then, 3 million of the fools stayed home, and didn't vote. Each vote not cast was a vote for the Democrat candidate. We have met the enemy, and it is us.
JD| 1.23.13 @ 2:58PM
The market ALWAYS exists, because people ALWAYS make choices. There is no such thing as the elimination of the market. Government may fine, imprison, or kill you for making choices that it dislikes. Those are the only tools that have ever been at its disposal. The Left uses this fact to sell every aspect of its agenda as being "market-based", as though there is some other further Leftism that would eliminate the market. There isn't. Even Soviet Russia had markets - they were just "black" markets.
There is no difference between the fine for speeding and the tax credit for buying a hybrid. Both impose a cost on those who don't do what the government wants relative to those who do. If government announced that everyone who bought a non-hybrid would be charged with a crime and pay a fine, though, the public would riot. But by casting their action as a "tax credit" for hybrid buyers, government achieves exactly the same result, and the public does not riot. In fact, the public considers this a "free market solution", applauds it, and viciously condemns those who oppose it.
This contradiction is the result of decades of left-wing distortion of basic common sense. Despite the public's nominal conservatism, voters eat up Leftism that is misrepresented as conservatism. The furthest reaches of Leftism can be attained in this way, but the public will still think that it is "center-right", and condemn rightward moves as "extreme."
We must make them see the truth.
Pecos Pete| 1.23.13 @ 6:33PM
JD: Damn, quit making good comments. You are going to drive liberal readers nuts. Keep on, keeping on.
Purp| 1.23.13 @ 9:00PM
How stupid.
Tax Policy has been used for generations to affect what leaders consider good for the country - from the Whiskey Tax in George Washington's America to the "Cash for Clunkers", the " Oil Depletion Allowance" and "Child Tax Credit" of today's America.
Nothing new, evil or sinister in your "amazing" revelation.
axbucxdu| 1.24.13 @ 12:14AM
With all this time on your hands, you must have actually figured out how your "Tax Policy" will now balance YOUR books. Do tell.
But if that's still got you stumped, then let's have your coordinates so that when this country finally gets what YOU and its present masters consider good, I can more easily feed you to them goodness-receiving hordes about whom you so care. Deal? Good.
Fiscal| 1.23.13 @ 8:16PM
The real problem is that in the real world, there is no cohesiveness in the Republican party. Quoting Gallup and Fox News as sources for polling results is laughable as we know how Gallup fumbled polling for the election and Fox News.... well...
Many Republicans, like me, are very libertarian leaning and are more conservative than most of you on economic issues while believing that most of you (certainly all here at AmSpec), are just wackos when it comes to science and social issues. That's why there is no cohesive message in the Republican party because there is so much disagreement on so many issues. That's why the politicos concentrate on liberal negatives rather than conservative positives.
Dennis D| 1.27.13 @ 4:48PM
Liberal-tarian's " Anything goes" position is anything but conservative,
Fiscal| 1.23.13 @ 8:21PM
The other problem is that demographics is destiny and young people and minorities, the growing segments, are strongly to the left even if many of you kid yourselves into believing they are closet conservatives.
The vast majority of voters out there are conservative on fiscal issues and to the left on social issues. Those of us who believe in true liberty, do not want you to decide our morality. You can try to convince us, but when you pass laws restricting us, you will lose every time as that is tyranny. The tyranny of the right on social issues has become just as ominous as the tyranny of the left on forcing us into a collective society. What a choice!!!!!
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hrgfue | 1.23.13 @ 10:58PM
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BridgetBlueskye| 1.25.13 @ 1:58PM
Excellent analysis. Now, if we conservatives could only find a way to educate the spokespersons for the Republican Party in how to know what they're talking about before they start talking and to say what they mean and mean what they say? Oh, and, yes, how do we avoid running another presidential candidate who tries, but utterly fails, to fake being a conservative?
johnnytentpeg| 1.26.13 @ 10:17AM
Agreed! Spot on!
The NRA ad showing the Left's hypocrisy on providing armed security for their own kids is a classic example of the Chicago-style street fighting ads the RNC needs to use to win.
When the media and Left (I repeat myself) howl in protest over an ad, you know you're scoring points, takes them off the offense, and gets the attention of the "low information" voter.
Dennis D| 1.27.13 @ 4:46PM
Its very difficult when most of the media is willing to lie for the Democrats and ignore stories damaging to the left. For example the story that Romney lied about Jeep sending jobs to China. He quoted a Bloomberg News Article.
Jerrypoodle| 1.27.13 @ 5:55PM
Republicans lost because of their message of hatred and exclusion; changing the messenger or reframing the message will engender the same or worse results!