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Special Report
Religious Prohibition for Guns
The Religious Left is all fired up — and half-cocked — about its new opportunity.
In a testimony to America’s ongoing religiosity, virtually every public debate has religious voices arrayed on both sides. But typically religious voices of the left are more intensely focused on detailed politics because of their greater faith in perfecting society through politics. Gun control debates since the horrific Newtown murders exemplify this confidence, with the Religious Left certain that gun control is the main answer.
And no Religious Left campaign is complete without Sojourners activist Jim Wallis. He joined several dozen clergy and other religionists at a January 15 press conference at the United Methodist Building on Capitol Hill to urge gun control legislation and to denounce the National Rifle Association. They claimed to represent 80 million Americans, which might be news to many within their supposed constituency. Particularly repugnant to Wallis et al. apparently was NRA chief Wayne LaPierre’s suggestion of armed guards at schools.
Denouncing LaPierre’s assertion that “the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” Wallis called such talk “morally mistaken, theologically dangerous and religiously repugnant.” Evidently not mentioning his own pacifism, which tends to see all violence as morally equal, Wallis instead argued: “The world is not full of good and bad people, that’s not what the scripture teaches. We all have bad and good in us.”
True, but Wallis the pacifist sidesteps historic Christian teaching that morally sanctions the defenders of the innocent against attackers on the innocent, even if all parties are indeed sinners. A robust defense of the moral necessity and urgency of defending the defenseless with more than just legislation and well-intentioned activism would strengthen his arguments. But Wallis and many of his allies are probably incapable of such admissions justifying force.
Specifically Wallis’s coalition urged assault weapons bans, universal background checks on gun buyers, and federalizing gun trafficking crimes. His lobby group includes the Catholic Health Association, the Islamic Society of North America, the Episcopal Church, the National Council of Churches, United Methodist Women and the Presbyterian Church (USA), whose D.C. lobbyist warned against a “false choice between guns and freedom.”
Citing the coalition’s “reasonable measures” such as banning assault weapons, the United Methodist Church’s chief lobbyist omitted that his denomination favors a complete ban on handgun ownership. The predictable hardcore Religious Left groups at the Wallis press conference did little to assuage the suspicion that their “reasonable measures” are but first steps towards their utopian dream of a gun-free America.
The night before Wallis’s press conference, another religious coalition, again including Wallis along with some more moderate religious voices, many of whom are reputedly presidential spiritual advisors, also urged “reasonable steps” towards gun control. Among the signers was Leith Anderson, head of the National Association of Evangelicals, which he continues to lead leftward. The NAE has no official policy on guns, but its official silence seems not to inhibit Anderson from becoming outspoken. A fellow NAE officer who is also a Florida mega-church pastor as well as Obama counselor, Joel Hunter, is another signer. Unexceptionally, so too are the presiding bishops of the Episcopal and Evangelical Lutheran denominations.
This group of White House faith advisors urged “universal background checks for gun purchases, collection and publication of relevant data on gun violence, and other constructive measures that will limit gun violence.” They also touted greater mental health awareness and warned against the “incessant cacophony of violent film, music and video that overwhelms our senses each day has not dulled the compassion with which we are endowed.” So at least they point to remedies beyond just anti-gun legislation. And they admitted with a little more modesty than the other anti-gun coalition, with its claims to represent 80 million, that “our communities are not in total agreement as to the extent of the measures they currently envision.”
A Washington Post account of the anti-gun religious coalitions shrewdly suggested that amid the de-institutionalization of American religion, such groups may no longer speak for large numbers. And the “Post” accurately noted that most evangelicals especially remain firmly opposed to gun control, with one August poll showing 68 percent of white evangelicals against stricter laws. It also quoted a somewhat younger and sometimes more liberal evangelical, Gabe Lyons of “Q,” who cited “the current gun restriction debate” as evidence of a potential another “lost liberty.” Indeed, younger evangelicals more socially liberal often are libertarian and hands off on issues like guns.
It was deeply appropriate that the Wallis anti-gun press conference convened in the United Methodist Building. It was built in the 1920s to sustain another religious utopian dream, which was to create a righteous America through abolishing all alcohol. The religious Prohibitionists then were genuine populists with direct support from millions of churchgoers. Today’s religious crusaders for gun control are mostly activist elites whose influence beyond a D.C. press conference is dubious.
About the Author
Mark Tooley is president of the Institute on Religion and Democracy in Washington, D.C. and author of Methodism and Politics in the Twentieth Century. You can follow him on Twitter @markdtooley.
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spike59| 1.17.13 @ 6:18AM
the correct term is 'religious LEFT'...they're generally all about the LEFT, and pay lip service to anything else
TLP| 1.17.13 @ 4:24PM
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Robbins Mitchell| 1.17.13 @ 6:42AM
I don't recall the clergy ever getting exorcised like this in the past over Kentucky long rifles...or about swords or longbows...although the Papacy did outlaw use of the crossbow by Christian armies during the middle ages as being "uncivilized"...which is why the Welsh yeomanry division of the English army was always able to kick French butt in those days.....what they are doing now is nothing but raw secular opportunism dressed up in clerical robes....they can all rot
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Appleby| 1.17.13 @ 6:56AM
The same people who continually try to eviscerate religion of all those "rules" that they chafed at when Mama Said No, all those years ago, are still trying to hand over responsibility for their actions to other people. I recall one of the professors at Bible College quoting a priest who said he was certainly going to heaven because he had never done anything but what he was told to do...therefore, he bore no responsibility for anything wrong he may have ever done. I'd like to see what happened when he got to the Heavenly Bar. All these so called religious folk are doing is looking for a way to blame somebody else for their misdeeds. Sorry, charlie, you can't take a lawyer with you when you stand before the Heavenly Bar.
TLP| 1.17.13 @ 8:58AM
Since when has the Religious Left had a problem with Guns?
If Memory serves me (and it does) the Leftist Priests and Missionaries spent nearly 25 Years in the Jungles of Central and South America, surrounded by Marxist Guerrillas carrying Soviet Made Guns.
I never hear anything from all of those Black Liberation Theologists, in Chicago, talking about Guns, and Gun Violence, or Cracking Down on "Eric Holder's People" who have Guns. Where's the Reverend "Kill the Jews" Sharpton on all this? I forgot. He's trying to Kill the NYPD's super successful Stop n Frisk Operation to get Guns off the Streets, just like he, and his fellow Left Black Clergymen, and their White Liberal Politician buddies did, when people like us tried to establish a Mandatory 10 Year Prison Sentence for having a Gun during the Committing of a Crime.
I HAVE heard them Blame the White Guys who make the Guns, though.
The Religious Left never said a word when The Nation of Islam was Killing Malcolm X and Police Officers. They still support, to this day, the release of Mumia Scumbag, even though he was Convicted of shooting a Philly Cop IN THE FACE, as he lay, immobile, in the street from the First Bullet that Scumbag hit him with.
This is what you get when your 10 Commandments come from The Communist Manifesto, instead of The Bible.
Von Mises Jr| 1.17.13 @ 9:27AM
I would simply posit that liberals in the jungles of Central and South America and the Black Liberation Churches of Chicago that Dear Leader frequented are not truly Christian. The former is a shield to improve a liberal's chances of injecting his worldview on the "Noble Savages" of Rousseau's fame, and the latter believe in "collective salvation" that is not a Christian concept. I am about the same age as you, TLP, and have very infrequently missed Mass on Sunday except for illness or extraordinary circumstances. Of all the Scripture I have been exposed to, I am yet to hear Christ preach that I can't go to Heaven if Perp is a gay fornicator or whatever he does in his weird perversions. My God tells me what I must do and not do, and barry, Pelosi, "Bite Me" or Perp does will not affect my salvation. They are on their own and I think Christ made that pretty clear.
ArmyAviator| 1.17.13 @ 9:55AM
Yes, our Savior DID make it very clear regarding our individual salvation. Perp and his ilk can fornicate with all of his gay buddies and it has NO effect on you or me regarding our Salvation. That the phony "ministers" I call the Rearends" Sharpton and Jackson aren't vocal about the Rights of anyone but street predators, thugs and the criminal class, illustrates that they are ALWAYS, Liberal Socialists first, and whatever else, second! The so-called "Christian Left," is a figment of the [Liberal Socialist] imagination. It only remains alive, because of Propaganda.
TLP| 1.17.13 @ 4:24PM
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TLP| 1.17.13 @ 1:28PM
How apropo that you would mention The Noble Savage.
That's the Story, from Monday, that The Contest is on.
I hope you will grace us with your Potty Mouth, (of late) at that Contest, tomorrow.
JoeS| 1.17.13 @ 7:52AM
Our evangelical church sponsored a concealed carry class. There are now at least twenty of us in our small congregation.
ArmyAviator| 1.17.13 @ 10:02AM
I applaud your church organization. You obviously believe as I do, the Bible is NOT a suicide pact. The Sixth Commandment actually does not say, "Thou shall not kill." The true translation of the ancient Greek is, "Thou shall not commit MURDER." Big difference between killing in defense of oneself or a loved one, and MURDER. Peter carried a Roman Gladius, the "assault weapon" of the first century. He obviously knew how to use it as well. Malcolm learned that, when Peter whacked off his ear! That of course prompted Jesus to perform the last recorded miracle of His human life.
Quartermaster| 1.18.13 @ 12:48PM
The OT was written in Hebrew, not Greek. The OT was translated into Greek about 300BC, however. You are correct about the translation of thou shall not murder. If anything, God is consistent and he ordered the Hebrews to put entire nations to teh sword.
TLP| 1.17.13 @ 8:02AM
I will say it, again: Some of you people still don't understand what we're dealing with, here.
To Barack Hussein Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and every Democrat Politician, and Leftist Group in this Country: Newtown was Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanza, New Years, their Birthdays, and Winning the Lottery, all rolled in to one.
Like their Muslim buddies did on 911, I have no doubt that they were High Fiving, Dancing, and Passing out Candies and Pastries, when they heard what happened.
In their world of: Never let a Crises go to waste?
This was their SUPER BOWL.
This story is just one more Affirmation of that.
kevin in appalachia| 1.17.13 @ 8:04AM
Part I
Far from upholding pacifism, the Scriptures teach that there is "a time to kill" (Ecclesiastes 3:3). God has authorized the government to bear the sword punitively (Romans 13:1-4), and permits His own people to function in a military capacity (Luke 13:3, 10-14; Acts 10:1-8, 34-48; 11:18). Moreover, He charges men with the duty of providing for their households (I Timothy 5:8), which includes the use of armed force to protect property and loved ones. According to Jesus, "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace" (Luke 11:21). Consider the example of the patriarch Abraham who commanded his own private army. "When Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his three hundred and eighteen trained servants who were born in his own house, and went in pursuit as far as Dan. He divided his forces against them by night, and he and his servants attacked them and pursued them as far as Hobah, which is north of Damascus. So he brought back all the goods, and also brought back his brother Lot and his goods, as well as the women and the people" (Genesis 14:14-16). Abraham subsequently received God's blessings (Genesis 14:18-20; 15:1).
kevin in appalachia| 1.17.13 @ 8:04AM
Part II
Jesus even ordered His apostles to arm themselves. He had sent His disciples, first the twelve (Luke 9:1-6), then seventy (Luke 10:1-17), on two preaching campaigns. Each time, He had told them to take no provisions along, but to rely on the generosity of those they would preach to, since their efforts would be directed toward their own countrymen (Matthew 10:5-6). Prior to His death, after which He would send them on a worldwide campaign (Matthew 28:18-20), Jesus prepared His apostles for something different. He asked, "'When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?' So they said, 'Nothing.' Then He said to them, 'But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one'" (Luke 22:35-36). Jesus knew that thieves preyed upon travelers (Luke 10:30), so He urged His disciples to prepare accordingly. So important was this point that He taught them it was better to be armed than clothed.
There is no such thing as the religious left. They are in error and do not represent God. (Thank you Jeff Hamilton)
Ralphie| 1.17.13 @ 9:19AM
Thank you Kevin. When Christ said blessed are the peacemakers, a pastor told me it was a person of strength who had power to make peace. Isn't that what they called their guns in the old west, the peacemaker? Could the West have been civilized without it?
According to Scalia, the 2nd amendment confirmed a right that was already in place in America. (shall not be infringed thingy).
Basically, what I hear from the religous left is a message of being afraid of their fellow man and of using another more powerful force, government, to create the security they do not have in Christ.
Robbins Mitchell| 1.17.13 @ 7:13PM
Blessed are the Peacemakers....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.....emaker.jpg
Von Mises Jr| 1.17.13 @ 9:36AM
Christ spoke of "men of good will." He told the Jews to "give unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God which is God's." He did not tell them to love slavery in Egypt or to worship the Roman gods as to make them happy and safe.
The problem with liberals is not only do they take the Bible out of context, but they quote what they can pervert and disregard what they do not like. Obama constantly uses the passages of the "poor" to justify the taxes of Caesar while Christ was speaking of the "poor of heart." He told us "we would always have the poor, but we would not always have Him."
Marxism is technically called "Dialectical Materialism" since the focus of the entire philosophy is "material goods." While Jesus did not tell us we should not work for and enjoy property, He made it clear that the love of money above God was the path to ruin.
Arnie| 1.17.13 @ 9:45AM
Agreed. The biblical Jesus preached at length about renouncing worldly possessions and giving to the poor. The real American Jesus believes that such handouts merely encourage the poor to be lazy, and that Christian charity is better practiced through massive tax breaks for the wealthiest citizens, who could then be expected to let the money "tinkle down" to the poor in the form of honest, if low-paying, jobs at upright Republican institutions like Wal-Mart.
spike59| 1.17.13 @ 10:24AM
The biblical Jesus preached at length about renouncing worldly possessions and giving to the poor.
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what He didn't preach was for Ceasar to confiscate a free citizens' possessions to give to someone else-when He spoke of charity, He instructed us to help others, not to hand the job over to Caesar-you truly are an idiot
vtwin| 1.17.13 @ 12:33PM
Jesus didn't preach against Ceasar helping the poor.
Drunken Sailor| 1.17.13 @ 5:14PM
He also didn't preach that we should shift our responsibility of taking care of the poor onto Ceasar's shoulders. It was to be our task, to love our fellow man, not Ceasars task to love him for us.
kevin in appalachia| 1.17.13 @ 11:03AM
But he did not say for us to become poor. It takes money earners to spread the Gospel. There is no sin in being wealthy. When money becomes your "god" is when it is wrong. Some of God's greaest leaders were rich; Abraham, Job, Solomon, etc. just from the Old Testament alone. God enriched them. They gave God credit for their wealth and used it properly.
Von Mises Jr| 1.17.13 @ 11:20AM
Forget Arnie. It is Perps new handle. Not the handle his gay fornicator friend holds, but it is his moniker.
TLP| 1.17.13 @ 4:25PM
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markenoff| 1.17.13 @ 6:07PM
Even while we were with you, we gave you this command: "Those unwilling to work will not get to eat."
2 Thessalonicans 3:10
ArmyAviator| 1.17.13 @ 10:10AM
Clearly, Jesus taught that the love of money, ABOVE God is sinful and the road to ruin! BUT, Jesus NEVER said that to be a good person, you have to be POOR. Jesus owned at least one home and maybe two. He began life with a small fortune provided by the gifts of gold, frankenscence and myrh the wise men bestowed on him. People donated money and food to Him and His Disciples as He carried out His earthly ministry. The Bible says what it says. Liberal Socialists pervert, twist and purposely misstate what the Bible actually says. Satan set a good example for this and Liberal Socialists LOVE Satan.
Von Mises Jr| 1.17.13 @ 11:23AM
Their favorite book "Rules for Radicals" is dedicated to the Prince of Evil. Arnie may already get his tweets.
Rhoetus| 1.17.13 @ 8:11AM
I left the Fidel Castro, Daniel Ortega loving Reds in the Methodist Church.
TLP| 1.17.13 @ 4:26PM
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c. j. acworth| 1.17.13 @ 8:27AM
The NRA has gained about 250k members in the last couple of weeks. How many new members in Jim Wallis's church? Maybe he should stick to preaching the Gospel. Or has he forgotten what his mission is supposed to be?
spike59| 1.17.13 @ 10:25AM
i'm pretty sure his 'mission' is, in his eyes, the service of the Obamessiah and the State
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Quartermaster| 1.18.13 @ 12:54PM
It is disappointing that keep shilling your contest when it seems no one is listening. You must be a little slow on the uptake.
Arnie| 1.17.13 @ 9:25AM
Conservatives last week said teachers cost too much $$. This week we have enough to buy them all guns!
ArmyAviator| 1.17.13 @ 1:48PM
Arnie (Perp) or whoever you are, your ignorance is so clear. You do a wonderful job of portraying your abject stupidity! 1) No Conservative EVER said teachers cost too much! 2) No Conservative EVER said we should buy all of them guns! You and your gay buddies excel at twisting, misquoting and perverting the truth. But then, you are well versed in perversion. How's the weather out there in the Tenderloin?
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markenoff| 1.17.13 @ 6:08PM
Somebody please go to TLP's contest!
Quartermaster| 1.18.13 @ 12:56PM
I have a better idea. Ban TLP, and this make it permanent. Let him run his conetsts somewhere that belongs to him instead poinding on us about it.
Quartermaster| 1.18.13 @ 12:56PM
I have a better idea. Ban TLP, and this make it permanent. Let him run his conetsts somewhere that belongs to him instead poinding on us about it.
Doctor Right| 1.17.13 @ 9:57AM
In general terms, "the clergy" of most denominations tend to lean left. There are several reasons:
1. Sheltered lives: Obviously, a clergy that more or less lives in society but distinctly apart from society - and doesn't marry - will form opinions that differ from many of their congregants, and resemble utopian ideals. The lack of real-world experience is evident.
2. Naivete: I've heard this statement before, even in the fairly Conservative church I belong to:
"People are basically good."
Rubbish. "Good" is a relative term, and mankind is a sinful species by nature.
3. "Turn the other cheek:" This is often misinterpreted; forgiving those who have committed an offense against you does not necessarily include those who are unrepentant, and it most certainly does not mean to be a doormat, or to fail to defend yourself when attacked.
4. "Thou shalt not kill:" Actually, it says "Thou shalt not murder; BIG difference.
5. "Liberal Christianity:" Left-wing churches and clergy are engaged in an ongoing shell-game whereby they distort the words and meaning of Christ to support a political objective. Many of them don't even believe in the Divinity of Christ, so one is left to wonder why they bother to attend Church..?
dominic1955| 1.17.13 @ 10:34AM
The clerical version of the "silver ponytail" are now the ones in places of authority. Things are changing (at least in the Catholic Church) but we still have too many of these miscreants polluting minds.
I would say the problem is not that they are "apart" from society in the proper sense, but rather they took too much of it on. In the 60s, they didn't hold to their guns-the whored out to the Zeitgeist and they adopted the Ivory-tower mentality popular at that time. They adopted fads and the aloofness of the poisoned Academia leftists-a horrible combination.
This, somewhat counterintuitively, let them to abandon right thinking for emotive fluff. Compare the writings of Garrigou-Legrange with the writings of one of the Berrigan brothers. Doctrine and dogma are the religious man's best friend, they are like the side rails on a perilous mountain pass. I suppose taking the "barriers" away is a good idea if you are the type of person who thinks letting your child play on the interstate is a good idea.
"Liberal Christianity" is a polite way to say apostate. This is the refuge of the man who doesn't have the integrity to either pony up and learn his religion or admit he doesn't believe it and leave. What did our Lord say about those who lengthen their tassels and widen their phylacteries? How about those who twisted the arm of their organization to give them rainbow colored pointy hats and hooked sticks in order to foist liberalism on the people they are supposed to serve?
max_kain| 1.17.13 @ 8:51PM
Isn't it funny how liberals laugh at our little "superstition", deride our beliefs, and accuse us of bigotry and intolerance. Except if they can twist a scripture to their own use and use it against us. I think that many on the "religious left" are merely useful idiots, as many have said, who point fingers at the rest of us claiming that we have lost OUR way or perverted the word. I would guess that many of these people attempted to join other churches, expecting the churches to change their ways, instead of following the mandates of that religion. There is no sacrifice, no real adherence, if they can just say, "I don't like that part so I am not going to follow it." Most religions don't ask a great deal of adherence from their parishioners, merely what is asked in the Bible. If they can't even follow that, what does that say about their character?
Pecos Pete| 1.17.13 @ 11:20AM
My problem with orthodox religion and religious sects is that so much money given by their congregations is for the support of the hierarchy of the church. The leftists discussed in this article wouldn't be there of their congregations didn't put money in the collection plate. Sort of like the current Ruling Class is living high on the hog from our tax money.
kevin in appalachia| 1.17.13 @ 11:27AM
The New Testament does speak about the option of paying the office of an Elder. But that is it.
Of course the way the church was originally structered was that Elders were the highest form of rule in each congregation. Men have added a hierarchy and paid them...how convenient!
kevin in appalachia| 1.17.13 @ 11:32AM
Also about paying preachers too!
Tom Kyba| 1.17.13 @ 11:43AM
The ultimate contradiction of terms: liberal theologian.
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Hardcard| 1.17.13 @ 12:02PM
This guy wallis is on georgi (horovitz) soros'payroll. We are screwed.
Hardcard| 1.17.13 @ 12:03PM
hey arnie take a schlep !!!
Petronius| 1.17.13 @ 12:05PM
Wallis and his ilk are about one thing: validating weakness and making life palatable for the gutless and clueless.
atilla| 1.17.13 @ 1:22PM
First of all, let me congratulate jim wallis on the wide range and use of adverbs and adjectives that he uses to go so over the top on a subject that he doesn't know "jack" about; and I include religion.
It's evidence that most reporters don't know jack either when they use people like wallis to comment on Wayne La Pierre....by far much superior to either of them.
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Stan Redmond| 1.17.13 @ 2:20PM
If abortions were carried out with firearms would the'religious' left object?
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