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Political Hay
Joe Scarborough: Skincolor Liberal
Colin Powell, MSNBC host buy into the tie between progressives and racism.
(Page 6 of 6)
That was back in July of 2009.
Monday morning, Joe Scarborough sat there on the set of his MSNBC television show — a show that uses the nickname for one of the worst racists in American governmental history — and said of Sean Hannity and Mark Levin:
“They didn’t listen. They went out, they engaged in birtherism, they called the president a racist who hated all white people.”
It was, bluntly put, a lie.
A Scarborough buy-in to the liberal idea that the best way to damage the cause of freedom and a colorblind America is to damage prominent conservatives who are among the best advocates that cause can ever have.
One can only conclude from this that the real truth of the American Left — the dependence on race to elect progressives to grow the government — is something Scarborough will never have the courage to confront.
When Alabama Democrat and Governor George C. Wallace gave his inaugural address in 1963 he infamously said:
“Segregation now, segregation tomorrow and segregation forever.”
It is abundantly clear that were the word “racism” substituted for “segregation” Wallace’s vow is the dog whistle — make that brass drum — of the American Left in 2013.
Race is their issue. They intend to divide Americans by race whenever and however they get the chance. For as long as they can get that chance — or make that chance.
For whatever reason, General Powell will never speak out. For a genuine American hero, that is disgraceful.
And as for Joe Scarborough. Quite apparently, he doesn’t have the guts.
Shameful. Absolutely shameful.
About the Author
Jeffrey Lord is a former Reagan White House political director and author. He writes from Pennsylvania at jlpa1@aol.com.
Vance P. Frickey| 1.15.13 @ 7:07AM
"Morning Joe" Scarborough's issue is very easy to understand. He's no Lowell Weicker - no principled GOP liberal. It's a little more fundamental than that.
"It is difficult for those to see whose paycheck depends on them not seeing." - Sinclair Lewis
Klabautermann| 1.15.13 @ 7:31AM
Hannity and Levin did indeed call the President racist (in Scarborough's mind.) The idea is now planted in the mind's of MSNBC's 20,000 or so viewers. Do a search of Powell Farrakhan to see Powell's photo ops with "Minister" Farrakhan. Powell is an expert on racism. If he had not been held back because of his race he would probably be emperor of the universe by now.
ArmyAviator| 1.15.13 @ 10:01AM
Powell is a product of Affirmative Action. He had breaks at every step of his career, that White Officers were denied. I served with him in the 2d Infantry Division years ago, when he commanded the 1/32 Infantry Bn. Powell did a mediocre job as commander. He had a disciplinary problem with Blacks, that exceeded any other unit in the Division. Yet he received glowing comments on his Officer's Efficiency Report (OER). Powell is articulate and clean, so the Senior Leadership, oozing to prove how "un-racist" they were, pandered to him. In Command & General Staff College, where I was also his contemporary, he excelled, again because he got every break possible. The Senior Leadership wanted a Black officer to graduate at the top, and Powell was who they selected. The rest of us had to work at our class standing. Powell had it handed to him! As Asst. Division Commander with the 101st Airborne, Powell should have been relieved for incompetence. Instead, Reagan chose to make him a Four Star. The rest is history.
davidh| 1.15.13 @ 2:27PM
Great strategy: If you disagree with me politically you are; Racist or Sexist or Homophobe or Misogynist or Chauvinist etc.
Don't speak or comment, if you do this will be our response.
Colin, we hear you. We need to be silent or become liberal like you, either will do (we know).
Sorry we ar clear now.
Anthony| 1.15.13 @ 2:52PM
Wow, we suspected this, but this first hand account puts the iceing on the cake.
Of course, Powell's reaction to all the benefits handed to him is to impune those who kicked up him the ladder.
I wonder if Powell told Reagan that he was an old racist fool, and that Powell had reservations about being promoted by an old R racist?
Ya think???
I wonder if Powell ever told Bush 43, when he was appointed Sec. of State, that Bush needed to say someting about all those racists in the R party, before Colin would take the job?.
Ya think????
I wonder when Colin looks in the mirror if he sees a pathetic amoral snake of a human being?
Ya think???
Seek| 1.15.13 @ 9:41PM
This account is fascinating. Colin Powell cultivated an image of a super-proficient, take-charge military officer. I guess that's all it was -- an image.
RCV| 1.16.13 @ 4:47PM
Sounds like someone explaining his own failure to me.
Martin kzovich| 1.15.13 @ 7:36AM
For me the question is when "our side" goes on offense" against the Communist narrative and in fact create our own narrative --When ?
TLP| 1.15.13 @ 10:22AM
I like that Picture at the top of the page. I look at him and see a guy with Zero Friends. A Sellout, who Backstabbed every body whoever said a nice word about him, in exchange for A Few Pieces Of Silver from the very same people who did everything in their power to get him outta Congress.
The Left doesn't like him. They just like to USE him. They'll never accept him as one of their own. And he will never again be Respected as he now bears the Scarlett Letter of Betrayel, Coward and Traitor. He will never be Trusted again. Which is a hard act to follow, when you're trying to make friends.
As for Colin Powell? He was NEVER one of us. He just played the Game and Worked the System. One need look no further than the Case involving another Scumbag - That POS Lying Skank - Valerie Wilson.
Powell knew all along that it was His Deputy - Dickhead No Kneck Scumbag Armitage - who gave out Valerie Wilson's name to Robert Novack. Yet he sat there with his Lying Racist Mouth clamped shut, as Scooter Libby was dragged through the Mud by another Scumbag - Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald - who also knew that Armitage was the Guilty Party.
So much for the "Honourable" Colon Powell.
As far as his Race Bullsh*t is concerned?
Blacks are Black first. Always.
Just look how this Black President had his Black Attorney General ("I didn't take this job to Prosecute MY PEOPLE") in his Blacks Only Justice Dept throw the case against the Black Panthers in a Blatant Case of VOTER INTIMIDATION.
Anti-Statist| 1.15.13 @ 3:59PM
Excellent, and exactly right. Thank you.
RCV| 1.16.13 @ 4:49PM
That's why those losers Scarborough and Powell are where they are today, while you're at the top of the game, TLP.
Biggie| 1.17.13 @ 7:32AM
What communist narrative?
Von Mises Jr| 1.15.13 @ 7:39AM
This has been the tactic of the socialist since Marx. Von Mises "Socialism" explodes "One World Government" of Marxism based on the fact that it is impossible to calculate prices. Mises calls it "catallactics" and Hayek explained it as "spontaneous order" whereby supply and demand directs allocation of resources based on the marginal costs bid in the marketplace.
Men such as David Hume, Adam Smith and Bastiat had valid theories while Marxism was based on the defunct caste system of serfdom. Since Marx could not defend Marxism in general, or the idea of "material productive forces" that had a bit of "Alice in Wonderland" tenor, Marx resorted to ad hominem attack. It has continued as Marxist one and only tactic for 150 years save perverting the language that is another socialist trick. They are a two-trick pony.
So the only thing socialist know is deception and ad hominem attack. That is their tactics and their world philosophy is to steal your stuff.
TLP| 1.15.13 @ 10:27AM
Look at you.
That's more like it.
Welcome Back, Professor.
TLP| 1.15.13 @ 10:27AM
Alice in Wonderland.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Von Mises Jr| 1.15.13 @ 12:53PM
They didn't bring you in for internet re-education, now did they?
I know you did not get the McMurphy treatment since you still make sense.
mike 3/505| 1.15.13 @ 6:14PM
The McMurphy treatment can be pretty revolting.
Biggie| 1.16.13 @ 11:46AM
To me it looks like all CONSERVATIVES have is deception and ad hominen. Like for instance calling them "socialists" even though they are socialists
Nancy in NC| 1.15.13 @ 8:10AM
So often racism is accused when the average person would not have even thought about race. It seems to me that race is all some people think about, and try to figure out how they can use the race card to their advantage.
Colin Powell has been seriously punished by the GOP, right? His disingeneous statements are beyond the pale. He should be ashamed.
Alice Moore| 1.15.13 @ 10:41AM
Why is Powell still a Republican? I had also read that like many Modern Major Generals, Colin Powell had his ticket punched to the top by Republicans. This culminated in his appointment to Sec'y of State in the Bush II administration.
George Will wrote a column in 1996 in which Colin Powell verbally cringed at having to win over the conservative base of the GOP to be elected to the Presidency.
He should go over to the Dems. He has a better chance of at least getting their nomination. He has an automatic lock on millions of voters with the collective IQ of my 19 year old cat; oops low information voters. :D
KennesawJack| 1.15.13 @ 8:13AM
Von, I would add; "their world philosophy is to steal your stuff and get you to thank them for doing it.". So far, it seems to be working quite well for Obamarx.
Biggie| 1.16.13 @ 11:50AM
Uh, in what way has Obama stolen your stuff?
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 8:21AM
Wow, you guys really eat your own if they diverge from the Gospels of Reagan, W, Cheney, Rush, Levin, Beck, & Palin.
Keep it up. I'm perfectly happy if you paint yourselves into a corner.
KennesawJack| 1.15.13 @ 8:32AM
Arnie, Scarborough and Powell are not " our own". They left us a long, long time ago. Funny thing, though, every advancement Powell ever had came at the hands of a Republican President. He seems to have forgotten that the liberal Dems don't to a damn thing to further a black man or woman who insists on leaving the plantation. Powell has become a joke. He has put race before country. (But then, don't all Dems?)
Seek| 1.15.13 @ 9:44PM
The problem with Democrats is not that they're anti-black. It's that they're anti-white. By peddling that "liberal plantation" nonsense, you unwittingly ratify the Left's primary narrative of the black-as-victim, merely changing the role of victimizer. It won't work. We've been "reaching out" to blacks for 40 or more years, ever since Nixon. Where has it gotten us?
KennesawJack| 1.15.13 @ 11:11PM
B. S. The "liberal plantation" is as real as the left's commitment to the destruction of capitalism. Nothing nonsensical about it at all.
Biggie| 1.16.13 @ 11:56AM
The liberal plantation is nonsense conservatives use to excuse their failure to attract black voters.
It's just as foolish as conservatives pretending that the left wants to destroy capitalism. You've been buying that lie for 150 years now
Joellen| 1.15.13 @ 8:33AM
Arnie, "you guys really eat your own .......".
Well you got that all wrong, we dont eat our own; and that's the point Mr. Lord is making. The ELITE, LIBERAL, RINO's try to take down the true constitutional, conservative. That's why Powell had to attack Governor Palin, yet never brought up the HYPOCRISY of those on his RINO and Liberal side, which of course he couldn's, cause he is one of the HYPOCRITES!
Now re-read the article, pay attention to detail and maybe you'll understand it a little better.
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 8:52AM
Ok, understood. But how do you explain birther ism?
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 8:55AM
To be fair, you may need to watch the full interview with Powell.
Joellen| 1.15.13 @ 9:04AM
Who brings up birther ism - Obama himself. How many times did he use it in his speaches. He does it to distract, as the good Alinksy student that he is, from what he and his ilk are working to do, transforming this country from a Republic to a third world country, and Powell & Scarsbonehead play along with him, as I guess so do you.
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 11:43AM
No, actually he was responding to people on the right. He didn't make up the whole birther issue.
CJW| 1.15.13 @ 5:00PM
Who said Obama was born in Kenya? Kenya strongly denies it.
mike 3/505| 1.15.13 @ 6:15PM
Obama's Book Fly did.
Biggie| 1.17.13 @ 9:20AM
I didn't know that Obama wants transform the US from a republic to a third world country. That seems like a really weird and possibly incomplete master plan. Is it possible you're missing some info?
squalis| 1.15.13 @ 9:06AM
"But how do you explain birther ism?"
Probably the same way you might explain the 9/11 conspiratorialists
Anthony| 1.15.13 @ 11:30AM
Well moron, perhaps Obozo's own words in his presser with his publisher, that for 15 years, Obozo called himself a Kenyan.
And what nobody, with zero acomplishments to his credit, woud have a publisher?
It was only removed prior to his run for president.
And speaking of explaining, how do you explain why Obozo has spent $$ millions keeping his college records sealed?
What ism is that exactly?
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 11:44AM
ok, good enough explanation guys. It seems Powell was right about what he said. LOL
TLP| 1.15.13 @ 1:07PM
Stop wasting time on him.
You've got a better chance of teaching the Dog, Calculus, than you do getting through his Cement Head with any kind of Facts, Logic, or Truth.
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 1:20PM
TLP, "The Limp Penis" strikes again.
Lay off the Viagra old man, you're scaring the kids as you jog down the street.
TLP| 1.15.13 @ 2:19PM
It's not Limp.
I just wanna go 4 hours, like you, on your knees, at the Glory Hole.
Anthony| 1.15.13 @ 2:03PM
It truly is amazing. You leftists morons are the most counter-intuitive trolls in the entire universe.
Obozo and his allies in the leftist media laugh and impune all those who raise legtimate concerns about Obozo's past, mostly raised by Obozo himself!!! So why doesn't he release his school records? You don't care because you know the reason why.
Yet you same trolls were abuzz about who Trig's real mother was, and that Romney truly killed a former employee's wife because she had no health insurance, when indeed she did!!
I used to think a fair number of lefty trolls were just plain idiots, however, it's far more nefarious than that. You trolls are just plain dangerous, and we know where you want to take this country.
Well troll, NRA membership is up 250,000 since Newtown, without a single solicitation by the NRA. Guns and ammo are flying off the shelves.
When Obozo and Biteme talk executive orders, we don't need morons with J.D's from Columbia and Harvard to tell us what we know is "irrational".
Yes Arnie, Gen. Powell was right, "first we're going to cut off its head, and then we're going to kill it" Stick around, the fun is about to begin and you're part of it.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 1.15.13 @ 2:31PM
"I used to think a fair number of lefty trolls were just plain idiots, however, it's far more nefarious than that. You trolls are just plain dangerous, and we know where you want to take this country."
Who's to say it can't be both?
Biggie| 1.17.13 @ 8:30AM
Birtherism is the belief that Obama wasn't born in the US and thus not a natural born citizen. It was actually started by the Hillary campaign in the 2008 primary
pogybait| 1.15.13 @ 10:34AM
Arnie, for once look beyond all of those side shows and mental entanglements, the objective has been to turn the Republicans into a group of frightened masses who will cave in to an imperial leader, nothing bolsters collectivism like a stampede.
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 3:59PM
Yeah, we "eat our own." Not like you "tolerant" regressives who raked Cory Booker over the coals for DARING to disagree with your "president."
Powell isn't a conservative "has-been." He's a conservative "never-was."
Frank Drackman| 1.15.13 @ 8:25AM
Colon Powell's one of my 5 "Brushes with Greatness" actual famous people I've been within 20 feet of...
The other 4? Sheryl Crow(much hotter in person), Reggie Slack, Charlie Daniels, Dr. "Red" Duke(much uglier in person, did you know he's like 90 years old), and the lead singer of "Quiet Riot"..
1992, Guantanamo Bay Cuba, in a dingy field hospital taking care of Leperous, Malarious, and Hilarious(who knew Haitians do great Standup?)Haitian Boat Peoples.
"There's a VIP coming" said the Brown Noseing Medical "Service" Corps Officer, "Get as many Minorities and Women in the ER as you can find"
"VIP"?? only "VIP" I could think of was Charlie Daniels, who'd played the night before.
And then Colon Powel walked through, after his Secret Service contingement had cleared the ER of all minorities, said a few words I can't remember, and he was gone, like a Ghost.
Whole thing lasted about 20 seconds, story of my life....
Frank
Albert Constantine Jr.| 1.15.13 @ 8:52AM
Doctor;
Given the colorful personal history provided by the autobiographical nature of so much of what you post, I find it difficult to believe that if a bodyguard contingent of the Chairman of the JCS was truly competent, that somehow they failed to screen you.
Bob Grant| 1.15.13 @ 9:11AM
Al,
It IS the government we're dealing with here...
Jacob McCandles| 1.15.13 @ 9:09AM
Haitians have no sense of humor. You just could not find another word to rhyme with "Malarious". Come clean.
Frank Drackman| 1.15.13 @ 9:44AM
Au Contraire, mon Fraire,
Jean Luke(not his real name) kept us in stitches, he was the "Translator" who after some patient would talk for 5 minutes would say
"Him Say His Balls hurt"
"Umm Jean Luke, the patient's a woman"
"Her Say Her Balls hurt"
so we'd administer that World Class US Medical Care, a MRE(Meals Rejected by Ethiopians) and 400 mg Ibuprofen(the bright orange kind) and a recommendation to follow up with her PCP in Port-au-Prince...
Jean Luke's humor?? sort of like a mellower Sam Kinnerson.
"What do you call a leperous Haitian in a Bathtub?"
"Stew"
Frank
Jacob McCandles| 1.15.13 @ 10:02AM
Great stuff. I have to say, though, that MREs are greatly underrated. I loved those things, especially the old spaghetti with cheese sauce ,the old school "Charms", and the tiny Tabascos.
Frank Drackman| 1.15.13 @ 10:07AM
I loved the(not) Kosher Corned Beef Hash,
Just like my Mom (Didn't) used to make!!!!!
you liked "Charms"??? ARE YOU JEAN-LUKE!?!?!?!?!?
Frank
Bob Grant| 1.15.13 @ 10:08AM
Umm, yea. As Al previously noted, they let you within 20 feet of Colin Powell?
Frank Drackman| 1.15.13 @ 10:45AM
20 feet, had my M9 too...
Frank
Al Adab| 1.15.13 @ 8:30AM
Powell had the GOP nomination his for the asking but he became Sec. of State under the ensuing administration. How can such a one state today that the GOP is somehow a racist, intolerant party. Are not the true racists those who very every issue, every comment and every policy through the prism of race? Instead of seeing people as members of particular groups, should we not view them as the individuals they are?
Bob Grant| 1.15.13 @ 9:08AM
I have a request of Colin Powell or any other African American who is sensitive to certain words uttered by Caucasians in reference to people who happen to be African American:
Could you please publish a list?
Because, man, this gets confusing. It's like some gigantic government program: Always changing, arbitrary, and illogical.
Colin Powell and obama have many, many similar traits, and bad ones: both are extremely disingenuous, self promoters, and harbor and inner anger that surfaces on rare occasions. They also tend to make divisive comments wrapped in measured tones with calm demeanor; I supposed I could have lumped it in with being disingenuous.
Oh BTW, is it racist for me, a Caucasian, to compare two black men? Again, these rules are confusing. Do I get points for trying?
Al Adab| 1.15.13 @ 11:44AM
Good question there Bob. Trouble is the only racist statements or words are those uttered by white Conservatives. See, no liberal can be racist because only they actually care about group identity. Since Conservatives treat people as individuals there is no room for group based prejudice. The code words only such when spoken by non-libs.
Bob Grant| 1.15.13 @ 4:29PM
Quite the racket they've got going there.
Jacob McCandles| 1.15.13 @ 9:11AM
Colin Powell is one of those a-------s that reveals himself slowly, over time. I used to think he was a decent guy. He's a clueless POC.
Anthony| 1.15.13 @ 9:37AM
Both Scarborough and Powell are total and comlete reprobates, without any redeeming qualities. They bow and scrape to the leftist hegemony that has poisoned our culture and has America on the verge of civil war.
Powell especially is a disgrace. In additon to what he did to Scooter Libby, by allowing Libby to swing in the breeze, (how's that for a racist insinuation?)knowing that it was his whore of an aide, Richard Armitage, who "leaked" the very open Valarie Plame's name.
Powell, whose entire success came at the hands of Republican presidents, from Reagan to Bush 43 shows his thanks by kicking the same party that made this "affirmative action" wonder the success that he is.
Powell used the classic cheap straw dog argument to attack Rs, and put words in people's mouths as well. Yet Powell is silent on Ds like Cuomo who also used the "shuck and jive" comment. How about the D former senate majority leader, KKK Byrd, and his "white ni**er" comment?
Did Powell also forget Bill Clinton's overt racist comment about what any empty suit Obozo is and that under normal circumstances, "this guy would be getting us coffee"?
No, Powell is a complete whore with a selective memory, and like whores, distains those that made their last gig a success.
Colin Powell has sunk to depths that even most leftist Ds haven't suck to. I despise Colin Powell, not for the color of his skin, but for the content of his character, or lack thereof.
J.C.Eaton| 1.16.13 @ 2:59PM
Scarborough and Powell: both utterly scabrous.
GobBluthe| 1.15.13 @ 9:39AM
Colin Powell is sad and pathetic in his old age. The first black head of the NSC. First black S of S. his success is due to GOP politicians. Rumored to be the VP pick in 2000. Had he chosen to run in 1996 or 2000, he wound have been the nominee.
Instead he takes every opportunity to attack the GOP. He stabs McCain in the back by supporting Obama. He , today is beneath contempt.
stmichrick| 1.15.13 @ 12:33PM
Not only that; his hobby is rebuilding old Volvos.
Pecos Pete| 1.15.13 @ 10:18AM
Joe Scarborough does his act for money and power. As does Colin Powell. Both are despicable.
Drunken Sailor| 1.15.13 @ 10:31AM
Bravo Zulu, Pecos. You hit the nail on the thumb. Both mean care only about themselves and how to increase their financial status. They are whores of the worst kind and their is no shot to cure what we catch from them.
Drunken Sailor| 1.15.13 @ 10:32AM
Edit, should have read both"men"
Job| 1.15.13 @ 10:29AM
Powell is more than likely mediocre; i can only take the word of others and intuition to understand that is a probability.
i will say the reason folks promote the incompetent is because the compitent folks are not as easy to control.
but what i don't understand about the guy that didn't make it into med school because some minority got the slot is why he became a garbage man instead?
furthermore the birther issue shouldn't get a person labeled a crackpot the mans birth certificate is fishy and his social security number and his foreign student status.
pogybait| 1.15.13 @ 10:47AM
Nothing like having a bunch of ultimate liberal elitists who despises the bourgeois class that has fed and nourished them, spend their time making the masses feel good imagining that they are defending humanity from evil.
Bob Grant| 1.15.13 @ 11:02AM
And the list of people on the left who've referred to Tea Party activists as "Tea Baggers" is long, a Who's Who list of liberal academics, media figures, and political leaders including: John Kerry (future Secretary of State); Chuck Schumer; Nancy Peolosi (house leader); Harry Reid (senate majority leader); practically every member of the Black Caucus; and even our Uniter and Healer Barrack Hussein Obama!, the man Colin Powell TWICE endorsed to be our president!
Where's his little lecture about tone and civility in this case? Has he pondered the feelings of every day American Citizens who happen to associate with the Tea Party and who are referred to by such a vulgar, deviant, sexual act?
Frank Drackman| 1.15.13 @ 11:28AM
Umm don't knock it till you've tried it...
Bob Grant| 1.15.13 @ 11:37AM
Which role do you play, Frank?
Are you the Bag or the Cup into which the tea is placed?
Frank Drackman| 1.15.13 @ 12:48PM
ask your wife...
HAHAHA nobody ever sees that one coming...
Frank
Bob Grant| 1.15.13 @ 12:58PM
Maybe at those backwood comedy clubs where you perform on Monday Nights, Shecky.
Frank Drackman| 1.15.13 @ 1:40PM
I can't help where your wife likes to have sex...
Bob, seriously, Trig Palin has a quicker wit than Thee.
Frank
Bob Grant| 1.15.13 @ 2:05PM
My wife?
My wife is the one who sorts all of this out at your weekly therapy sessions.
By the way. She overcharges you. We get a big kick out of it over fancy dinners on weekends.
Frank Drackman| 1.15.13 @ 2:34PM
"Overcharges me"??
And if she was a real therapist she wouldn't tell you, Therapist/Patient confidentiality, you know, like how YOUR Therapist doesn't tell people about your Kiddie Porn addiction...
And how can you put a price on the best BJ's I've ever got(I know, you taught her), umm I mean besides Mrs. Drackman's of course.
And it's not cheating, it's like eating out instead of at home...
Frank
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 11:47AM
Those idiots referred to themselves as "Tea Baggers". It's not the fault of the left if tea partiers actually like being tea bagged.
Frank Drackman| 1.15.13 @ 12:47PM
So we can call Afro-Americans(HT Colon Powell) "Niggers" if they refer to themselves as "Niggers"?? With Martin Lucifer day right around the corner...
Frank "one bad-ass N-word" Drackman
Bob Grant| 1.15.13 @ 1:05PM
Frank,
Disregard the last negative post I wrote to you. I couldn't agree more here. Brilliant response.
Yes, you are bad-a**. You could kick any one of Samuel L. Jackson's movie characters, even Jules. Parnell "Stacks" Edwards could give you a run for your money.
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 1:28PM
Frank, yes, go right ahead. You can. In fact, do it in South Dallas. I in the meantime will keep on calling the whiteys Tea Baggers. Deal? What are you afraid of Frank "more scared of the projects than Baghdad" Drackman?
Frank Drackman| 1.15.13 @ 1:46PM
"Whitey"??
Lets see, that makes you older than the N-Words who say "Honkie" and younger than the N-Words who know better than to insult a Honkie.
What am I afraid of??
Cancer, Coronary Thrombosis, Celiac Disease, Clowns, Catholic Priests,
and thats just the "C"'s.....
"Niggers"?, not so much.
Frank
Bob Grant| 1.15.13 @ 1:57PM
Arnie,
You DO understand how this game is played?
It's called the Sauce For The Goose ...game.
Notice how YOU began referring to groups of people as "Tea Baggers" and "whiteys", and not Frank. Do you understand the subtle difference, or is this too much for you to digest."
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 4:07PM
I prefer the term "schwartzas" to describe the ghetto dwellers to which you refer. And why not? Its every bit as "PC" as "whitey."
Oh, & as long as some of us carry guns, we're not really that scared of the projects. I used to carry mine in the garden spot of south Memphis every time I went to Gus's World Famous Fried Chicken. Never had a problem.
Frank Drackman| 1.15.13 @ 11:36AM
Can I be Frank?
Colon Powell and Barak Obama are "Black" in about the same way a Doberman/Pommeranian mix is a "Doberman"
OK, it was 1995, Colon was rumored to be considering a 96' presidential run, I asked our Housekeeper Jemima(that was her name, I swear)what she thought of the General.
"He's a High-Yeller(redacted)" she drawled in her Gullah Brogue.
"High Yeller"?? I replied, "What the(redacted) is that"
and she told me, along with that "High Yellers" were scaliwags, poliwogs, and terrible Secretaries of State....
and I was about to ask her opinion of Clarence "Frogman" Thomas, but she was already reshingling my roof(those gullahs work HARD)
Ain't nuthin Yellow about CT...
Frank
stmichrick| 1.15.13 @ 12:11PM
Scarborough is remarkable for being a Class of 94 Republican who was totally seduced by the faux sophistication of Big Journalism Manhattan. Pat Buchanan is the only talking head who escaped MSNBC with any dignity.
Anthony| 1.15.13 @ 4:27PM
One of such limited ability and moral fiber would easily be seduced by the MSM, especially MSLSD. Why, but for MSLSD, Scarborough would be selling hot dogs on 5th and 49th street.
Peppermint Tea | 1.15.13 @ 12:22PM
Who is Joe Scarborough?
And why should I care?
Lord, that was a long article to say...what?
RCV| 1.15.13 @ 12:26PM
Colin Powell and Joe Scarborough are among the few Republicans who make any sense to me.
But then, I voted like the majority of the American people the last two elections.
Frank Drackman| 1.15.13 @ 12:33PM
For Repubiclan Congressmen? Me too.
Frank
TLP| 1.15.13 @ 1:10PM
We get it.
You're an Idiot.
Frank Drackman| 1.15.13 @ 1:49PM
Thats just what I'd say if I'd been Dick Slapped for the umpty-most time....
Frank "Better to be the Dick Slap-her, than the Dick Slap-ee" Drackman
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 4:08PM
Your comment is about as gay as AIDS. You DO realize this, right?
Bob Grant| 1.15.13 @ 4:14PM
Ghost,
You should know this about Mr. Drackman. There MUST be a penis reference in every post, even it makes him look gay. He can't help himself.
Talk about thinking with your dic*...
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 4:21PM
Projection's a mother, ain't it, Mr. Grant?
:-)
stmichrick| 1.15.13 @ 12:31PM
RCV; how does it any sense to think like you and be a Republican?
RCV| 1.15.13 @ 12:37PM
Not sure what the actual question is, but I am certainly not a Republican.
TLP| 1.15.13 @ 1:11PM
You're not a lot of things, with SMART being at the top of the list.
RCV| 1.15.13 @ 2:12PM
What a wit, TLP.
mike 3/505| 1.15.13 @ 3:57PM
Bettern' bein' a half wit...sorry...couldn't resist.
Drunken Sailor| 1.15.13 @ 1:50PM
I think he was trying to ask how does it make any sense to think like you and be a Republican?
Kind of makes them Democrat Lite don't it?
danshanteal| 1.15.13 @ 1:59PM
I see lots of hatred rising from the black community. After several hundred years you can expect it when a black man obtains the white house and his black supporters don't want to relinquish it. Morning Joe is just a lackey; Colin just shows bad judgment after such an illustrious career in govt.
davidh| 1.15.13 @ 2:10PM
Great strategy: If you disagree with me politically you are; Racist or Sexist or Homophobe or Misogynist or Chauvinist etc.
Don't speak or comment, if you do this will be our response.
Colin, we hear you. We need to be silent or become liberal like you, either will do (we know).
Sorry we ar clear now.
Frank Drackman| 1.15.13 @ 2:37PM
Can't wait for the Pre-Quel...
"Django, Back in Chains"
Frank
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 3:45PM
"The blacks will take over. This is a Christian nation!"
Yes, because we all know Jesus was a white Anglo-Saxon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0
(Explanation needed)
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 4:11PM
I love it when regressives like you cite Jesus, G*d, the Bible, the Founders & the Constitution to make their vapid points, when those things are THE VERY things your ilk does everything in their power to undermine.
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 4:50PM
Ghost many of the Founding Fathers despised, or simply tolerated the fundies of the day. I'm just curious, where does it say Jesus Christ in the DoI, or the Constitution? There might be a reason he's not mentioned.
As for the actual Jesus, I have no idea if he actually existed. But if he had, I'm pretty sure he didn't look like George Bush with long hair.
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 4:55PM
"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ! For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."...Patrick Henry
Hell, I'm Jewish, & I know this about our nation. Too bad you don't. Or you just choose to ignore it. However, in doing so, its not really surprising. You regressives excel at selective outrage as well as revisionist history. What else is new?
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 5:07PM
Funny, Patrick Henry's words about the Gospel of Jesus Christ were vetoed from the founding documents I mentioned. I wonder why that is.
And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter
-Thomas Jefferson
But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
-Thomas Jefferson
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 5:18PM
You obviously don't know how to read. Or interpret what you read. Its is BECAUSE of the foundation in the Gospels that our Republic IS the way it is.
And when the Founders referred to "the Creator," they didn't use those words to be politically correct. They were talking about G*d. Specifically, Jesus. Are you really that f-ing stupid that you don't realize that? Don't answer that question. Its apparent from your posts that you ARE, indeed, that stupid.
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 5:30PM
Ghost, I know it's really hard for you to consider otherwise. If they just meant Jesus, why didn't they put it in there?
It's because they didn't. Because they did not want a theocracy....you know, that whole king from divine right ruse Europe was so good at for a long time.
The Creator can mean anything to anybody. That's why they used it. You are free to interpret it as you please.
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 5:38PM
I interpret it in the historical context in which it was written. And, again, they DIDN'T WRITE IT TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT. "Political correctness," along with "social justice," are terms coined by regressive idiots like you.
There's a reason why Noam Chomsky & Bill Ayers are linguists & English teachers, respectively. Co-opt the language, & you can shape the debate. Keep trying to polish the turd that is your interpretation of history. It doesn't make it any more valid or correct.
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 5:43PM
Did you consider that many of the founding fathers were influenced by the Enlightment...you know, when you considered your historical context?
I never said anything about political correctness.
So again, where does Jesus Christ, or even just Jesus, or Christ, appear in the DoI or the Constitution?
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 5:47PM
And again, who the F**K do you think they were referring to, other than G*d? And more specifically, Christ? They sure as shit weren't Jews or atheists.
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 6:02PM
Many of the were Deists , heard of it?!?!?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
Some us are perfectly capable of saying we simply don't know what happened before the big bang.
DRed| 1.15.13 @ 6:19PM
Patrick Henry never actually said "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ! For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here." That's from a 1950s magazine article about Patrick Henry, and it's misattributed to him.
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 6:19PM
Wow. Wikipedia. You DO know that there's a reason why most teachers don't accept that as a source, right? Sorry, come up with a better citation, or shut the hell up.
And again, in that day, I doubt they meant G*d in the Old Testament sense. They meant Christ. Period. Keep obfuscating away, though. I'm having fun making you look like the idiot you are.
CJW| 1.15.13 @ 6:32PM
Welcome Back, Ghost.
Nice work.
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 6:48PM
OOH-RAH, Brother!
CJW| 1.15.13 @ 7:43PM
Ghost, BTW, "Cicero" who posts here is very smart.
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 9:13PM
Oh, I'm sorry, is Wiki to reality based for you?
Is Wiki a conspiracy of liberals making shit up?
Here piss for brains, here's dictionary.com and the encyclopedia Britanicca Is that sufficient for you? Really, what do you reference for history? Ann Coulter?
http://www.britannica.com/EBch.....6154/Deism
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deism
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 10:48PM
First of all, if you're gonna call someone "piss for brains" & try to pass yourself off as their intellectual "superior," you should know the difference between "to" & "too."
Second of all, don't kvetch to me about not accepting Wikipedia as a source. If you were at all educated, which is highly suspect, you'd know that there is a very valid reason why almost every teacher, on any level, does not accept it as a source.
Finally, as for history, I prefer Herodotus, Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, Disraeli, Churchill, Dos Passos, Keegan & actual documents & texts. Not the Howard Zinn bullshat you so obviously take as gospel.
You wouldn't know unrevised history if it bit you in the tuchus.
Arnie| 1.16.13 @ 3:06AM
Oh, Ghost, you are TOO anal about typos.
Anyway, so now that you, educated and all, have heard about Deism, and like original texts, tell me, where is Jesus or Christ mentioned in the original texts of the Constitution or the DoI?
So, from the Monticello website, with links to sources....good enough for you?
"Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because, if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."
http://www.monticello.org/site.....e1_eh7a9sq
(By the way wiki is not recommended as a primary source, although, it has links to primary sources. I sent you the link so you can look at them yourself, and it's much easier than posting a hundred links....for your retarded ass.)
Biggie| 1.16.13 @ 2:11PM
They could have been referring to things you've obviously never heard about
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.16.13 @ 3:06PM
How unsurprising that you are so blatantly stupid that you can't figure out to whom they're referring using historical context. Then again, unrevised history always seems to be a problem for regressive morons like yourself & Arnie.
Biggie| 1.16.13 @ 2:02PM
If anyone is polishing a turd its you. You argument isn't exactly compelling. You claim "The Creator" means Jesus but have nothing to back it up beyond your interpretation. I have no idea "they DIDN'T WRITE IT TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT" has to do with anything but it certainly doesn't bolster your case.
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.16.13 @ 2:13PM
You, obviously, are as big an f-ing idiot as your boy Arnie, Smalls. "The Creator" referred to in the Bill of Rights sure as shit ain't Jupiter.
RCV| 1.17.13 @ 12:46PM
If you had any understanding of history, you'd know that "Creator" was a word used specifically by Deists of the day to avoid references to Jesus or any specific anthromorphic being.
Frank Drackman| 1.15.13 @ 4:18PM
Hey-Zeuss was one of MY People's, Spear Chucker(Thats one you don't hear much anymore).
And "White Anglo-Saxon" is redundant, like saying "Big Lipped N-Word"
C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-ant W-W-We
what Rodney King (may he swim in peace) said...
Frank
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 4:25PM
Frank, I've been to Saxony. There are black Saxons, and they speak better German and English than I do. I'm so jealous.
mike 3/505| 1.15.13 @ 6:22PM
"SpearChucker Jones," Character in the original MASH book and movie.
CJW| 1.15.13 @ 6:35PM
Colonel,
Remember the SNL skit between Chevy Chase (A lib Jerk) and Richard Pryor, where they alternated with racial words, N, Honky, SpearChucker, JungleB, Peckerhead...and at the end Pryor was doing his crazy eye shaking routine.
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 4:19PM
I, for one, am tired of this double standard. Don't agree with Chairman MaoBama? Then you're a (insert gasp here) "RACIST!" Think Colin Powell is a backstabbing douchebag who's shat on everyone who's ever given him a shot to be a successful politician in his post-military years? Then you must be a "racist" too.
If despising some schmuck who's socialist/Marxist designs are destroying our Republic, & that schmuck happens to be black (which I also always find amusing, since people always seem to forget that his mother, although self-loathing like most regressives, was a white woman), then I guess that's me. If despising a supposed "president" who sat in the "church" of one of the most virulent racists & anti Semites in recent history, & named one of his ghost-written books in honor of said racist, makes me a "bigot," then I guess I'm just gonna have to be guilty as charged.
And all the while, I'll still smile & give the people who would label me a "racist" for such things the finger. F**k you very much.
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 4:37PM
"I, for one, am tired of this double standard. Don't agree with Chairman MaoBama? Then you're a (insert gasp here) "RACIST!" Think Colin Powell is a backstabbing douchebag who's shat on everyone who's ever given him a shot to be a successful politician in his post-military years? Then you must be a "racist" too."
Yea, because Colin should be grateful to the Republican Party, or white people, or whatever you are talking about. Jeez, get a clue.
This reminds of the attitude of many conservative Southerners (yes,I lived there for a few years) that they think during slavery and segregation that they were actually doing blacks favors, because without their white Christian guidance (and control), they would surely be lost in the world.
Bob Grant| 1.15.13 @ 4:44PM
Geeez, you're not only simple-minded, You're a one trick pony.
There's such a thing as showing a little loyalty (it's not a black/white thing, it's a human one) to the ones who were there to defend you against detractors (see my above post) AND who helped him with his career.
Afterall, Arneeeee, Colin Powell didn't build that!!! He didn't build his career on his own. He had help from others. :-).....
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 4:53PM
Oh, is that like a wife being loyal to a husband after he beats her? Is that what you are talking about?
Yes, of course there is loyalty. But blind loyalty is ridiculous.
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 5:09PM
"Colin Powell didn't build that!!! "
Oh, so now you understand this statement?
That's progress.
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 4:51PM
Hey dumbshit, those segregationists were from YOUR party. After all, your party & chosen ideology has always been about doing what's "best" for people, because people are too stupid to know for themselves.
And its got nothing to do with race, Suzie. If you were successful at something, then crapped on everyone who gave you a shot to BE who you are now, then you'd be a backstabbing piece of shat too. Regardless of your race.
Go peddle your dreck elsewhere. I ain't buying.
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 4:56PM
Yes, and those were conservatives, when the Democrats were the party of the South, and the Republicans were the liberal party of the north.
Look at an electoral map from the last 4 elections, and one from the civil war....DIPSHIT.
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 5:20PM
Yeah, they were so "conservative" that people like El BJ & Bubba's political mentor, Fullbright, as well as Robert Byrd, are still lauded in regressive circles.
You're just a colossal gem of ignorance, aren't you?
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 5:26PM
Oh, that's all you got? Some Dixiecrats? The Republican party dominates the South, just like the former conservative Democrats did, and that's all you got? Funny, Byrd comes from West Virginia. They don't like, Obama, but those white folks sure do like their welfare.
By the way, I'm glad the Dixiecrats are dead and gone. You Republicans have locked up that whole conservative vote.
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 5:43PM
And I'll be even happier when regressives like you, who wrap yourselves up in the very principles your ideology is antithetical to, all die out.
Conservatism pre-dates your short-sighted view of history. It was conservatives who were slaughtered by Caesar because they opposed his power grabs, thereby enabling Rome to become an Empire rather than a Republic. And it was conservative anti-Nazis who opposed Hitler. Never mind all those historical facts, though. They get in the way of your piss poor interpretation of what this Republic is all about.
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 5:59PM
OMG, conservatives (just like the American Conservative of today) has been the righteous and savior of all the ages!!
Ghost, that type of thinking and so called history you cited there....that's called propaganda buddy.
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 6:20PM
Read the Philippics & come back & talk to me about "propaganda," asshole.
Biggie| 1.16.13 @ 11:27AM
Neither of those "facts" mean southern Democrats weren't conservative. They were.
CJW| 1.15.13 @ 6:49PM
Your party, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Polk, VanBuren, controlled the country's politics fromt he founding to the Civil War, and did nothing to end slavery.
The Rep party started as the anti slavery party in the 1850's.
The first Republican pres, Lincoln, ended slavery, and again your party opposed Reconstruction. Woodrow Wilson was a segregationist. The first Civil Rights Act, in 1957, was passed by Repubicans and some Dems and signed by Ike. The 1964 Civil Rights Act was opposed mainly by Dems, and filibustered by Dems, such as Algore Sr, father of AljazeeraGore.
It was Ike who sent fed marshals to Little Rock because the Dem governor tried to stop Meredith from entering college.
That is a pathetic excuse that the Dems were from the South. Robert Byrd was a member of the KKK, Justice Hugo Black, appointed by FDR, was a member of the KKK. George Wallace, Lester Maddox, Orval Faubus, all Dems. Does not matter where they were situated. They were Dems.
Today your party still is the party of bigotry. You accept only blacks who toe the liberal line, and denigrate any who are conservative, such as Justice Thomas, Sowell, Herman Cain, Condi Rice, and others.
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 9:24PM
Guys, I'm not disagreeing with you that the Democrats used to be the party of the South.
The Civil Rights Acts of the 60s passed because most Democrats voted for it. Sorry, but the Republicans were not soley the fulcrum on which it passed. Most of it was due to Northeastern Democrats and Republican progressives, with Democrats actually providing most of the votes. The opposition came from the South, Democrats and Republicans alike. And yes, signed by Democratic presidents in the 60s.
Yes, of course the Republicans OF THE NORTH ended slavery in the 1800s. Total respect for the party for that.
But they were progressives for their time, more liberal and of the north, no doubt. But it was the South, the region that most supports Republicans today, that opposed ending slavery and segregation. That's the point. The parties simply don't have the same region and population bases that they had 130 years ago. That's the point. The Republican party today is the party of the South. Do you deny this?
And you guys denigrate even moderate Republicans at every opportunity. They are almost an extinct species now.
CJW| 1.15.13 @ 9:54PM
You are playing games by trying to say that whatever party is of the South is the party of slavery and segregation, and that because the Reps now win most of the South they are the party of slavery.
This is disohnest and false, and you make it because you have no answer to the historical facts that the Dem party was the party of slavery and the Rep party ended slavery. Those are historical facts you do not and cannot refure.
You should at least have the courage to clearly say what you imply. You are wrong and know it.
The fact that the Reps win in the South does not mean today's Rep party is the same as your Dem party was in its slavery and segregation days.
Name the Reps of the southern states, or any states, that are segreationists,or KKK members like Byrd and Hugo Black.
Back up with evidence your sly implications that today's Republican party, wherever located, is the same as your old slavery/segregation Dem party.
Arnie| 1.16.13 @ 8:11AM
CJW, get a grip. I never refuted that the Republicans were the party of the North and ended slavery. Cheers to them, that's awesome. And yep, they were big time liberal/progressives for their day. Did you even glance at what I wrote?
As for segregation, the Democrats actually had civil rightsand the end of segregation in their platform in 1948, before the Republicans had. And Truman integrated the military in 1948.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu.....?pid=29599
Now the Republicans did well with Ike. I love Ike, and if there was anybody like Ike in the Republican party today, I would vote for them. But modern GOP conservatives despise him because he was a New Dealer & Keynesian, and thought the military industry was out of control.
But all the Civil Rights legislation required many votes from Democrats. And in fact, it was Democrats who provided most of the votes for the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960s the Democrats provided most of the votes, and they were passed by Johnson. But yes, the southern Dems also provided most of the opposition.
Arnie| 1.16.13 @ 8:13AM
My point is that there were also Southern Republicans that opposed ending segregation. Here is the vote count of the big enchilada, Civil Rights Act of 1964.
The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)
The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)
Will you look at that. No Republicans from the South voted for it. And in fact, the Democrats of the North were even more supportive of Civil Rights than the Republicans of the North.
As for Republicans that were supportive of segregation, well, William Buckley comes to mind who penned, Why the South Must Prevail, to which he wrote, "The central question that emerges . . . is whether the White community in the South is entitled to take such measures as are necessary to prevail, politically and culturally, in areas in which it does not prevail numerically? The sobering answer is Yes-the White community is so entitled because, for the time being, it is the advanced race."
Arnie| 1.16.13 @ 8:17AM
Additional racist Republicans are Bill Beeny of the Southern Baptist Convention. Or Republican Bo Callaway. Or Bob Jones of Bob Jones University. Or Republican Big Papa Lyons of Louisiana. Republican Rubel Phillips, and of course Strom Thurmond, who became a Republican in 1964. Clarence Morely, the Republican governor of Colorado was a member of the KKK, as well as their Senator Rice Means. Edward L Jackson, KKK member and Governor of Indiana.
The point is CJW, conservative people back then, regardless of party, supported segregation. It was the progressives, liberals, and hippies, and most important of all, black civil disobedience, that brought about Civil Rights. And yes, the South was the region opposed to Civil Rights. Guess which region today, and which party is the most anti-black, most against equal rights for gays, and where the white-vote votes overwhelmingly for Republicans. That would be the South. I'm not implying it, I'm saying it. The Republican party owns today's racist and generally intolerant people. Period. In general, the South has been the retarded, meaner brother of the North, that had to slap it's slower brother upside the head sometimes, and say, "Quit being so retarded and mean." It's still happening.
Bob Grant| 1.16.13 @ 8:53AM
Guess which ideology is the most anti-black? Progressivism, that's what.
The most racist president in our country's history? Easy, Woodrow Wilson - The father of progressivism! ...who happened to hail from THE NORTH!!!!!!!
Arnie| 1.16.13 @ 9:07AM
Yes true Wilson was a racist. He died in 1924.
But William Buckley, the godhead of modern conservatism, was a racist, and he just died a few years ago. LOL
CJW| 1.16.13 @ 4:03PM
Ok, purpie.
So when Wilson, a racist, decided to enter politics in New Jersey, a northern state, and run for Governor, why did he pick the Dem party? And when he ran for President, why did the national Dem party nominate him and work to elect him?
RCV| 1.16.13 @ 12:08PM
Sorry, Bob. Yes, Woodrow Wilson was the most racist President in history, but he was a Southerner. Born in Virginia to ardent Confederate parents, he was raised believing Lincoln was the devil incarnate. He did later move to Princeton, New Jersey and was elected Governor of that state, but he never shed his Southern upbringing on racial matters.
CJW| 1.16.13 @ 2:48PM
So Wilson was a racist because he was born in the South, or because he was Governor or New Jersey, or because he attended Princeton?
RCV| 1.16.13 @ 4:54PM
He was a racist because he hated blacks and considered them inferior. And he learned that from his Confederate parents.
Biggie| 1.16.13 @ 2:27PM
Progressivism is NOT the most anti-black ideology.
Woodrow Wilson was NOT the most racist president.in our history. (I don't know if you've heard, Bob, but some early presidents owned black people as property)
Woodrow Wilson was NOT the father of progressivism
Woodrow Wilson was NOT from the North
Now that we've cleared that up, how about telling us your point?
CJW| 1.16.13 @ 2:47PM
Arnie
Nice try. Who is Bill Beeny, Bo Callaway, Papa Lyons, Rubel Phillips? Nobody but you has hear of them.
Certainlyl not household names such as Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, VanBuren, Polk, Woodrow Wilson, Algore Sr, William Fullbright, Robert Byrd, Hugo Black, George Wallace, Orval Faubus, Lester Maddox, etc.
"conservative people back then, regardless of party, supported segregation" Not true. According to you the entire Dem party was conservatiave and therefore segregationist, and then suddenly, in the 1960's the Dem party was transformed to a pure, non segregatinist party.
Jessee Jackson, the Dem pres candidate, refers to NYC as Hymietown. That is the Dem idea of tolerance. Al Sharpton, another Dem heavyweight, refered to the Jews and Koreans as interlopers, another tolerant Dem.
You are not a serious person, but you are free to indulge in your fantasy history and intolerant views devoid of any reality. You have no facts, just opinions.
Arnie| 1.16.13 @ 3:40PM
CJW, you ask, "Who is Bill Beeny, Bo Callaway, Papa Lyons, Rubel Phillips? Nobody but you has hear of them"
Look them up you fuckin idiot!!!! There's a things called the library, books, and the internet. Do you only know history by "household names"?
God youe're stupid!!!
And look up the Buckley article. As I wrote, it's called, Why the South Must Prevail. It came out with The National Review in 57 or 58 after the Civil Rights legislation then.
CJW| 1.16.13 @ 4:01PM
Ok Purpie, 1957 article is relevant, but not Dirty Harry or Joey.
When you have no facts or arguments, use foul language, and do not back up any claims.
Arnie| 1.16.13 @ 4:05PM
Oh right, William Buckley is only a conservative God, and so is his National Review. And it supported segregation. Funny, how you choose to ignore the facts that are inconvenient for your FOX news/Rush Limbaugh/ view.
Seriously, just fuck off CJW.
You are not serious about this discussion. I provided the evidence, you can confirm all the data yourself (you are a big boy, right?)
CJW| 1.16.13 @ 4:29PM
Arnie/purpie the foul mouth Village Idiots
Your eloquence is very convincing. Your language shows you fit in with the racist, segregationist history of the Dems.
CJW| 1.16.13 @ 2:53PM
What year did Buckley say that, and please provide the citation. You do know that people change.
Didnt Harry Reid and Joey Biden just say that Obama is a clean,well spoken, articulate black guy, without the "kneegrow accent?" What do you think Harry and Joey meant? Would they say that about a white politician?
Arnie| 1.16.13 @ 4:02PM
"According to you the entire Dem party was conservatiave and therefore segregationist, and then suddenly, in the 1960's the Dem party was transformed to a pure, non segregatinist party"
I never fuckin said this you retard....?!?!? Can you honestly fucking read? Did you read my posts above? The Dems had a progressive Northern faction, like today, since the early 1900s. They also had a conservative Southern faction. I even fucking provided the votes by region above.
Scroll. Up. Idiot.
CJW| 1.16.13 @ 4:05PM
Arnie/purpie the foul mouth Village Idiots
So you have no answer, no facts, no logic. But you can use foul language.
Wow impressive.
Sorry but I do not descend to you level, idiot.
Arnie| 1.16.13 @ 4:15PM
Actually. You.Can't.READ....nor research apparently.
And again. FUCK OFF AND DIE YOU RETARD.
YOU GOT YOUR DUMBASS HANDED TO YOU BITCH. You have provided, nor countered, NOTHING.
CJW| 1.16.13 @ 4:27PM
Arnie/purpie the foul mouth Village Idiots
Very eloquently stated, and I can see why you joined a tolerant, progressive Dem party. They are luck to have you.
Keep posting, idiot.
Arnie| 1.16.13 @ 5:45PM
CJW, is ass your still red from that ass kicking?
Still can't find any holes in my data, huh?
Please, keep on telling the world how the Democratic Party that passed the Civil Rights legislation and has elected a black president twice is racist. You'll go far with that really.
Arnie| 1.16.13 @ 5:49PM
Do you still love your Buckley and the GOP since you found out they were racists?
Boy, it really shatters your false world view, doesn't it?
CJW| 1.16.13 @ 6:37PM
Purpie/ arnie the foul mouth Village Idiot
Yes, Moron, you are so convincing. Afraid to use your regular handle, idiot?
CJW| 1.16.13 @ 6:36PM
Purpie/arnie the foul mouth Village Idiot
Yes, you are so eloquent, purpie, afraid to use your regular handle, idiot.
Keep posting, purpie, you are truly an idiot.
Arnie| 1.16.13 @ 8:32PM
LOL. Purp and I, Arnie, are not the same person. I don't know who Purp is, never met him. We have no relation, nada. Wow.
Why is it so hard for you guys to believe we are different people? This is truly amazing.
Arnie| 1.15.13 @ 5:32PM
By the way, did you look at the maps? Just curious...
CJW| 1.15.13 @ 6:51PM
What is your point about the maps? As Sam Kinnison would say, "Say it, say it, say it."
Arnie| 1.16.13 @ 9:23AM
Enough said.
http://www.wtv-zone.com/civilwar/map.html
http://www.kottke.org/08/11/2008-election-maps
CJW| 1.16.13 @ 7:34PM
Purpie/arnie the foulf mouth Village Idiot,
descend into racism:
"Oh, and YOU'RE a LOSER ... can't even beat the black man... you're so awful... hahahaha (that's for your last line, you wanna dish it out, then take it)"
Can't even beat the "black man?" So you believe blacks are inferior and easy to beat.
Keep posting moron, you provide fresh material every day.
You are truly an idiot and a racist
Biggie| 1.17.13 @ 6:34AM
"Your party & chosen ideology has always been about doing what's "best" for people, because people are too stupid to know for themselves."
No, that's not it.
Simon Templar| 1.15.13 @ 11:18PM
Its not about gratitude or loyalty. It is about associating with people and groups of which you claim you are a member and claiming you are something you are not. It is his deception and his dishonesty that is disgusting.
Bob Grant| 1.15.13 @ 4:38PM
...and who stood by his side when people on the left referred to him as a House "niggra", Uncle Tom, etc.? ...Was it Young Obama?
Don't you think Young Obama and Jeremiah Wright had a nice little chuckle when Harry Belafonte referred to him as a plantation house negro?
cicero| 1.15.13 @ 4:43PM
Maybe we miss the point. This is not about black or white. This is about Joe keeping a job, and Colin getting paid to say something MSNBC wants said. It is all great theater. Joe was never a Republican. He was a political climber. He could have been in either party. He ran as a Republican because that is where the opportunity was at the time. Now, he believes his best interests lie as a shill for the progressive party. It is the same with Powell.. His loyalty to party was based on Colin's best interests. He has determined now that the progressive side is where it is at. He doesn't need principle, he needs to stay employed.
Powell is much the same. He became a Republican when it was to his advantage to be so. Now it is to his advantage to say smarmy things about the Republicans. Do you really think he goes on these programs for free? The progressive never has enough money. He will destroy all around him for another $million, even though he couldn't spend what he has in three lifetimes. These folks are a disgrace to this country.
mike 3/505| 1.15.13 @ 6:12PM
Cicero,
Nicely Done.
Mike
CJW| 1.15.13 @ 6:52PM
Imus referred to Joe S as "Deliverance Boy."
Purp| 1.15.13 @ 5:41PM
OMG, Mr. Lord - are you really this stupid?
Glenn Beck said "President Obama hates white people" and Donald Trump is a birther extraordinaire...
I can't get past your first 2 misdirections ... these people said it and you can't hide it. FFS, it's on videotape...
You Conservadums haven't discovered Videotape yet? Really?
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 1.15.13 @ 5:45PM
Of course we have! How else do you think we would know about your "president's" "pastor?" You know? That same guy who's sermons would lead us to believe that anyone who sat in that "church" for 20 years would hate white people. And Jews.
Bob Grant| 1.15.13 @ 6:25PM
Purp,
I see your cousin Arneeeeee is here to assist you.
Great! Now we have stupid in stereo!!
CJW| 1.15.13 @ 6:52PM
Purpie the Village Idiot
"Purp| 11.7.12 @ 1:16PM
The unborn have no rights - they are biological entities until God allows them to be born."
How stupid can you get? God decides who gets an abortion. What religion says God decides who get an abortion, and what is the basis for such?
Jeff| 1.15.13 @ 10:26PM
Purp...
Hello? Scarborough laid this to Hannity and Levin...and you insist Beck and Trump! Bingo! You are right!!!!!
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CHAUSSURES FEMME AIR MAX LTD | 1.16.13 @ 4:02AM
But despite his and Powell’s protestations, Scarborough explained that some prominent conservative opinion makers “didn’t listen.” To bolster his case, Scarborough pointed to stories linked on the Drudge Report, including remarks from conservative talkers Sean Hannity and Mark Levin, the latter of whom he did not mention by name.