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The Conservative Anschluss Moment
The time to fight arrives.
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The belief — it is perhaps more accurate to describe it as an article of conservative faith than a “belief” — in many conservative quarters is that President Obama is exactly a man of his word. His stated objective is to transform America — and that is exactly what he and his liberal allies on Capitol Hill and in the media are all about.
To believe otherwise, to use more benign examples than history’s most infamous dictator, is to believe Steve Jobs was all about a hobby when building a computer in his garage. Or that Henry Ford just wanted to be the only guy in America who drove an automobile while everybody else was stuck with a horse and carriage.
Which is to say, it is a fool’s errand to treat with Mr. Obama on any issue as a stand-alone. And one ignores at one’s peril the issues raised by liberals who happen not to be occupying the literal president’s chair in the Oval Office.
It is no accident that the other day in the New York Times, as the nation awaited news on a fiscal cliff deal, Georgetown law professor Louis Michael Seidman took to the op-ed pages of America’s liberal bible to say:
As the nation teeters at the edge of fiscal chaos, observers are reaching the conclusion that the American system of government is broken. But almost no one blames the culprit: our insistence on obedience to the Constitution, with all its archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil provisions.
You read that right. A liberal professor of constitutional law regards the Constitution — the very document then-State Senator Obama once derided as a document of “negative rights” as “downright evil.” This is, of course, along the same line of thought as expressed by no less than liberal Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg who told Egyptians last year that she wouldn’t recommend the U.S. Constitution as a guide to establishing an Egyptian democracy. And don’t forget this gem, also from the Times, which has Washington University of St. Louis professor David Law doing a study on the Constitution that compares it to “Windows 3.1” Meaning: antiquated. Out of date. Irrelevant.
One can only see stories like this one in the Washington Post that report Vice President Biden’s gun control panel is considering “universal” gun registration to understand the liberal assault on the Second Amendment is gearing up yet again.
When taken together, from the Obama stimulus to Obamacare to the just-made nomination of Nebraska’s cranky dove, the anti-Israel Chuck Hagel, as Secretary of Defense, there are conservatives aplenty who see anything and everything Obama does as part and parcel a of long-term strategy to not simply “transform” America but to irrevocably make it a country that was never imagined in the wildest imaginings of its founding fathers.
To make of it a “post-Constitutional” America as Mark Levin discusses in his book Ameritopia: The Unmaking of America. A nation where Americans are gradually confronted with a reality that strips them over time of their most fundamental rights, leading them step-by-step to life in a country that has been deliberately, willfully bankrupted, riven by class and racial warfare.
This palpable concern that Republican leaders are repeatedly demonstrating a clueless inability to understand what it means to deal with President Obama is what is driving the not-so-behind the-scenes alarm with the fiscal cliff deal.
The idea expressed by columnist George Will on ABC’s This Week is on its surface interesting. Said Will in this exchange with liberal ex-Clinton labor secretary Robert Reich:
GEORGE WILL: In this sense, I think people will look back on this deal as where liberalism passed an apogee and went into decline for the following reason. In the Bush tax rates were passed in two tranches, 2001 and 2003. In 2001, only 28 Democratic members of the House voted for them. In 2003, only 7 did. And they did it to make for only 10 years, they were to expire.
Under this deal, 172 House Democrats voted to make the Bush rates permanent for all but 0.5 percent of American taxpayers. What that means is, is that they can no longer tax the middle class. And we have here an endangered species…
(CROSSTALK)
ROBERT REICH: He’s pointing to me. I don’t know why.
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Pecos Pete| 1.8.13 @ 6:57AM
The turtle and the scorpion with King O as the scorpion and the Republicans as the turtle.
Gary B| 1.8.13 @ 7:15AM
Is Republican opposition to creeping socialism real or fake? Because, if it's real, it's pathetic and has been for decades.
Al Adab| 1.8.13 @ 8:37AM
Ever since Tom Dewey in 1948 republicans have accepted the legitimacy of the welfare state. Only Conservatives stand against the tenents of that system. There is no moral basis for government to take from those it dislikes (the rich) and give to those it favors (GE, GM, Unions,the poor, etc.) as govt is created to protect the rights and property of citizens, not favor preferred subjects.
R Martin| 1.8.13 @ 11:08AM
I think Republicans caved long before that. The end of the good old days (no inflation, free trade, limited government) probably started with von Bismarck’s Germany. The real cave-in to modern liberalism gained traction after WW I with the rule of law giving way to arbitrary government, high taxation to pay war debts, suspension of the gold standard and trade restrictions. Prior to that one did not even need a passport for international travel. Germany, of course, resented the harsh terms of the Treaty of Versailles, Hitler rose to power along with other despots who killed 170 million of their own people and chaos ensued characterized by inflation, trade restrictions and protectionism and the acceptance of greater government.
Since then leftist government policies have become cumulative. Government has become so intrusive that many people have just come to accept it and, in America, it’s getting much worse under Obama. Republicans spin their wheels fighting all these little skirmishes when they should be waging total war—a war of rollback. To change the mindset of people away from dependence on government is a monumental task which is going to take a leader of epic strengths who can teach and inspire and who is tough as nails. I don’t see that person as I look around.
Al Adab| 1.8.13 @ 12:01PM
I can't disagree in particular. It is simply a matter of picking the moment when the welfare state became the preferred system of government. As late as 1924 the Democrat candidate John W. Davis said that taxing one set for anothers' benefit was theft. After that election it was all downhill.
Rollback? Absolutely. "Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it Almighty God." Anybody out there willing to talk like that today?
Al Adab| 1.8.13 @ 12:01PM
I can't disagree in particular. It is simply a matter of picking the moment when the welfare state became the preferred system of government. As late as 1924 the Democrat candidate John W. Davis said that taxing one set for anothers' benefit was theft. After that election it was all downhill.
Rollback? Absolutely. "Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it Almighty God." Anybody out there willing to talk like that today?
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 1:26PM
Al Adab and RMartin
Do we have enough people that want a rollback?
With all the taxpayer funded goodies, 51% voted to continue the redistribution. Politicians follow the vote, and only the very conservative Tea Party voters seem to want a rollback.
Most of the voters are conditoned to look to DC for an answer to all issues, from Katrina to Sandy to an attack at a school.
The issue is always framed as what should Congress and the Pres do.
The correct conservative/libertarian answer in most cases of "nothing" will not get many votes.
There does not seem to be enough "demand" for the limited government we want.
R Martin| 1.8.13 @ 3:22PM
That's because the days of limited government have receded into the past along with the days of a strong dollar and truly free trade. No one remembers that we went 100 years in the 19th and early 20th centuries with zero inflation when the tenants of the constitution, the rule of law, limited taxation, economic freedon, free trade and a metallic-based currency produced economic success and general peace. And, sadly, that stuff is not being taught anymore. That's why we need a person of unusual strength to steer the country back on course.
And speaking of teaching, why have there been so few comments about professors at elite law schools suggesting the constitution be trashed? Or that a sitting justice feels the same way. And people wonder why gun sales are rising.
Al Adab| 1.8.13 @ 4:34PM
R:
Liberty in our day takes a back seat to the guarantee of subsistence. Too many prefer the security of the dole to the opportunity of the marketplace. Very sad to see what a once proud people are become. They have sold their birthright for a bowl of government pottage.
MacWell™| 1.8.13 @ 7:30PM
So true and such a befitting comparison.
Quartermaster| 1.8.13 @ 5:24PM
The days of limited government ended at Appomatox in 1865. The Republican party has always been a big government party. That is its roots and it political DNA. You won't change that.
The Dimocrat party was the party of small government, but they lost so many times to the GOP after 1865 that they joined 'em and became more than the GOP ever dreamed of being. So now, both parties are crony capitalist, Big GOV parties. Or, as Pat Buchanan so accurately said, "they are just two wings on the same bird of prey."
If you thjink the GOP is going to become something they never were, you are wasting your time and money.
PolishKnight| 1.8.13 @ 1:05PM
Al Adab, we should have an honest debate about these issues because if we don't have a platform, the left makes up a utopian one to fill the vacuum.
Consider the poor: If a poor woman and her children are sitting on the street, homeless, because the father has passed away during a house fire and simultaneously the bank has gone under and there was no insurance, do you seriously want her and the kids to just die and then send in the police to pick up the bodies? Sure, a church should come along and help but what if one doesn't?
The problem is that a state run service to deal with, to paraphrase a recent senatorial candidate's gaff: "legitimate poor" versus welfare mothers and immigrants coming to the states for a free ride is how to differentiate between the two and discourage negative behavior. If someone is poor and has a child and the state rushes with aid, that encourages poor people to have as many children as they can. How to deal with that? One way is sterilization but due to the WWII, that has a bad rap. Yet, nobody thinks twice about discouraging men from having children out of wedlock via negative social repercussions.
topcat52| 1.8.13 @ 4:15PM
Which men are these that are so discouraged? A very large part of the poverty problem in this country is precisely men having children out of wedlock, and women willing to go along with it - the feminist ethos that women are entitled to be as promiscuous as men (hence the need for "free" contraceptives). We don't need sterilization, we need the teaching of morality and manners in the schools, not safe sex, not it's all well and good for Timmy to have two mothers and no father - we shouldn't hate Timmy for that, but he's certainly disadvantaged by his lack of a male role model. The liberals poke fun at this, they say we've "evolved" beyond this, but if that's evolution, I'll take stagnation.
MacWell™| 1.8.13 @ 7:41PM
Mr. topcat, may I inject a thought?
Thank you.
We started our school day with a volunteer reading from the Bible, a Psalm or Proverb, (nothing that could be considered evangelistic), then, we ALL stood, hand over heart and recited the Pledge. After giving HONOR to God and Country, we were ready to learn. Learn we did, I'm 65+ and can still add, subtract, multiply and divide in my head, what % of high school graduates today can say that?
The next year, we were told that it's now against the law to read the Bible in school. From that point on, schools, education, and most important, our children's futures have been circling the drain ever since.
KennesawJack| 1.8.13 @ 7:59PM
Mac, We did the same thing except we RECITED the 23rd Psalm and then the Pledge. Seems to me we walked away after 12th grade much better educated and equipped than kids today.
MacWell™| 1.8.13 @ 9:37PM
That is obvious Jack. Education was taken seriously then. Grade school through high school was to prepare you for college, and up till the late 60's, did a pretty good job.
PolishKnight| 1.9.13 @ 10:34AM
Hello Topcat,
What you're suggesting sounds like good old fashioned conservatism. The problem is that it doesn't work because the world changed into today. If conservatism as you described it worked, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Yes? So something has to change. Absolutely not what the leftists falsely promise, but conservatives need to look at the real world as it stands today, how their values got them here, and adjust accordingly.
Don't discount the intelligence of children when it comes to blowing off their teachings and then going for the lowest common denominator. They're lord of the flies material and adults are little better. As I said, going after the men isn't the problem since as anyone who has seen an alley cat knows, you can neuter nearly all the cats but if a single one remains and you let the females breed without consequence, for the childrens' sake of course, then it won't reduce the numbers of births. On the contrary, all the current social policy did was drive out responsible men and reward irresponsible men.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 9:00AM
That's what I say to my wife about her Orgasms. Not the Socialism thing. The Real or Fake thing, and the Pathetic thing if they're real.
Seriously.
buckeyeman| 1.8.13 @ 9:12AM
Sucks to be you.
Trish Trotter.| 1.8.13 @ 10:20AM
Did any of you all get a puppy for Christmas?
If so, I hope you are letting your sweet, little puppy get enough sleep. I have read that right-wing people tend to be rather noisy. They talk louder, walk harder, and turn the volume levels on their TVs louder. Liberals, on the other hand, are a little more quiet in their demeanor.
Intelligent people appreciate a quieter environment.
Anyway, please turn down the noise and allow your precious puppy to nap all he wants.
And give your puppy a kiss on top of his fuzzy little head--a kiss from Trish.
Trish Trotter.| 1.8.13 @ 10:24AM
And for more on how to raise your puppy, go to my blog @
sleepyweepypuppypeepee.com
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 10:48AM
Stop Shouting at us.
You're big mouth is giving everybody a headache.
Please. Stop Yelling.
Go to the Mirror and tell yourself how Wonderful you are, and that Everybody likes you.
Then go to the Roof, and jump the F*%$ off.
Aim for the Metal Fence with the points on the top.
C'mon Man!| 1.8.13 @ 4:32PM
Tim, I am so happy you are back. You were sorely missed. And glad to see you haven't changed.
anna k from emory u| 1.8.13 @ 11:09AM
Trish, your post is one of the most vapid and obnoxious pieces of trash I have ever laid eyes upon in my highly sanctified life. Please stop taking up everyone's time with this, so I can get on with my good works.
Von Mises Jr| 1.8.13 @ 1:01PM
Perhaps we should abort Trish, hey anna? You love abortion for the unborn, Omama don't abort me after I am born like Obama wants, kill the old with a pill, and if Trish don't shut up, then let's abort her no matter what her age.
anna k from emory u| 1.8.13 @ 1:50PM
Yes, Mr. Mises. I confess I agree. We should abort Trish, and Arnie, and nm, not to mention the vile and profane TPL. I am not so foolish as to confuse him with TLP.
It must be horrible to have someone come in and spoof the name that you use to post.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 2:39PM
Don't let Frau Anna pull the wool over your eyes.
Trisha, nm, and Arnie are all part of her little group of Leftists, trying to Crash this site like the Virus they are.
This is the Web Division of the Occupy Crap on the Cop Car, Rape Room, Occupy Bunch.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 2:40PM
And, of course, they've brought TPL along with them, again.
Stephie| 1.8.13 @ 2:53PM
Democrats are more quiet in their demeanor? I guess you missed the Occupoopers and any other democrats trash that demand their freeee stuff paid for by others. GTF off our site.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 4:23PM
She IS the Occupoopers.
Doctor Right| 1.8.13 @ 1:24PM
"Republican opposition" is an oxymoron.
Gary B| 1.8.13 @ 2:09PM
Exactly...
Gary B| 1.8.13 @ 2:12PM
Passing girls around in DC is a bipartisan activity. The all play together then pull the good-cop, bad-cop routine on us. Well, their game is almost over.
Gregory | 1.8.13 @ 9:43PM
Yes, Gary B., it has been many decades. But let's be honest. There was a time, in the 1890's, or so when a certain level of government intervention was needed; i.e., child labor laws. Even Milton Freedman condoned a minimal level of regulation, didn't he? Seems to me things were probably close to perfect in 1910. Too bad it would take a miracle of staggering proportions to ever get back to that poinr.
aware| 1.9.13 @ 6:12AM
Friedman was a Statist to the core. Henry Ford did more to end child labor than anything done by the State. You seem to believe that the State would just quietly go away after it has done the good deed. When did that ever happen?
You have a hundred "programs" operating today that started as "emergency" measures to defeat the Kaiser a hundred years ago.
Al Brooks, BleedingHeartlib | 1.8.13 @ 9:08AM
I wrote in Sowell's thread: problem is old people such as Sowell get too much from the state--
so confiscate Sowell's assets and shut him away in a nursing home where the old goat belongs.
Pecos Pete| 1.8.13 @ 9:22AM
And I wrote just below your comment:
Holy googly moogly! (To partially quote Alan's Girl).
The usual nonsense from Al "I Hate Old People" Brooks.
Or maybe it is: Al "I Hate Intelligent People" Brooks
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 9:55AM
I think it's: Al I hate my penis, and yet I love everyone else's penis, what's wrong with me?
That guy.
Al Brooks, BleedingHeartlib | 1.8.13 @ 10:17AM
Well it sounds rather altruistic, TLP!
Come to think of it, Sowell might possibly set me up as his catamite.
We will have to ask him, wont we?
TPL| 1.8.13 @ 11:20AM
But fuck, I'm too old and too tired to give a shit now.
Tom Kyba| 1.8.13 @ 11:30AM
Amazing. It's actually true. The more liberals get what they want, the angrier they become. I picture you as someone who runs outside with a fly swatter killing butterflies because someone else finds them pleasing, while your neighbors are shutting and locking their doors, even in the middle of summer.
I'd even bet that after that you head to the store,where the employess all roll their eyes saying "not him again" as you buy a bag of Oreos and go outside and stomp on the cookies until they're dust.
pogybait| 1.8.13 @ 6:59AM
So how long will it take the Baldwins and Chamberlains of the Republican establishment to grasp the concept that the very speed and methods used to empower every progressive wish list will undermine the very structure of government making it so recognizably corrupt that the content of all laws will be held in contempt making enforcement an absolute absurdity.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 7:46AM
Why does everybody on our side, feel that they have to walk on Eggshells, when talking about Barack Hitler?
"Nobody's comparing President Obama to Hitler, around here. That would be ludicrous."
He is like Hitler. He's EXACTLY like Hitler. He's EXACTLY like Hitler. He's EXACTLY like Hitler.
He's young. He's a Great Orator, who, when he speaks, holds the Crowds in the Palms of his Hands.
Hitler controlled the Banks, in Duetcheland. He Controlled Manufacturing. He controlled the Press.
Obama Controls the Banks. He Controls the EPA, which Controls Manufacturing. He doesn't "Control" the Press. He doesn't have to. They all have their hands in the front of his pants, already.
Hitler loved the Arabs, and he Hated the Jews. Ditto, President Mohammed's Horse.
Hitler had his Eagle's Nest - Berchasgaden.
Obama has his Hawaiian Retreat in the 57th State, over in Asia.
Hitler had his SS, and his Brownshirts.
Obama has his Unions, and his Occupiers.
Hitler controlled the Movie Industry, which put his Propaganda on the Big Screen.
Obama just gave Hollywood Hundreds of Million$ in Free Money, for "Services Rendered" to his Regime. (Look up Matt Damon's new Propaganda Piece, of you doubt me.)
Hitler had his Secret Police.
President Transparent is intercepting every Communication and Conversation made by everyone in the Country, electronically. Our Emails are Monitored by Obama's Very own Vril Society, by the likes of Frau Anna K, and her Minions.
Sounds like Hitler, to me.
chuck| 1.8.13 @ 8:02AM
Hitler banned private gun-ownership. Obama will try to do the same.
If and when they come to confiscate private guns, all Hell will break loose. There are far more gun owners than there are people who would be collecting the guns. Good luck on that.
I'm with Tim............the oath is to protect and defend the Constitution.
TPL| 1.8.13 @ 11:22AM
Contest tomorrow at Sams.
Check out the produce dept. next to celery.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 9:15AM
WE THE PEOPLE: those of us who Play by the Rules, Go to Work in the Morning, Raise our Kids, Pay our Taxes, and Obey the Laws, are this Hitler's JEWISH PROBLEM.
And, with his reelection, he will adopt Phase Two of his Final Solution. Mass Immigration from the Third World, and a Confiscation of the People's Weapons. It's already begun. Just look at all of the Papers that are publishing MAPS of Gun Owner's Houses, in preparation for the upcoming Kristallnacht. Go to Drudge. Read the Story about one of Herr Obama's Banks - Bank of America - who has FROZEN THE ASSETS of a Gun Manufacturer, because they don't like Guns.
ARBEIT MACHT FREI.
Impossible?
We have a Muslim Mulatto President named Barack Hussein Obama.
Obviously, nothing is Impossible, anymore.
nm| 1.8.13 @ 10:47AM
Sounds to me like you have SERIOUS mental problems.
Stephie| 1.8.13 @ 2:57PM
No, he doesn't nm. WE have a serious problem and it resides in Washington.
rhcrest| 1.10.13 @ 5:38PM
Sounds like you are in serious denial
DRed| 1.8.13 @ 10:48AM
"We have a Muslim Mulatto President named Barack Hussein Obama."
It's amazing that what your semi-coherent rage really boils down to is that the President is a black guy with a funny sounding name. That's all it is to you.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 11:06AM
That's what he is. He's a Mulatto. What's your problem?
You wanna BAN that word, too?
What about Bastard. Is "Bastard Child" to be stricken from the English Language, as well?
What other words do you and yours wanna BAN.
What's next: GOD? CHRIST? HONOUR?
My hatred for him has nothing to do with him being Black. I hate him because He's RED.
And, now I hate you because you're a PUNK.
You run around playing your little Race Card, every chance you get, cause it's the only Card you have, and it's worthless. Like you.
Ya wanna talk about the ISSUES? You wanna talk about JOBS? TAXES? DEFECITS? DEBT? BANKRUPTCY? INSOLVENCY?
No, you don't, cause you got Nuthin.
You're just one a Obama's B****es, and a Punk.
And everybody knows it.
TPL| 1.8.13 @ 11:23AM
Contest today at MasterMassage.
Ask for Tony.
MacWell™| 1.8.13 @ 7:48PM
Hey Tony, whats da passwerd again?
DRed| 1.8.13 @ 11:31AM
Ban? Who is talking about bans? Oh, the idiot who thinks that Obama is exactly like Hitler. But sure, Tim, let's talk about the issues.
John Navratil| 1.8.13 @ 11:59AM
DRed,
Perhaps you would like to provide a substantive counter example to dismiss the point. It doesn't seem the Godwin's law has quite been played out here. He's got the Führerprinzip. He separates the nation into camps to pit against one another. He seeks every greater control over the economy. He wants to disarm the people. The dismisses the co-equal branches even telling one when it is not in session. He threatens to ignore the debt ceiling. He issues executive orders by the ream.
Give us a counter-example of two. These ARE the issues.
DRed| 1.8.13 @ 1:10PM
Sure, but we should probably take it to a less popular page if you want to have a serious discussion.
Also, Obama's not issuing reams of executive orders.
By president:
Obama- 144 and counting
W. Bush- 291
Billy Clinton- 364
Bush the elder- 166
St. Ronald- 381
Carter- 320
So Obama issuing reams of executive orders is not an issue.
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 1:32PM
Commie Red,
You know better, the increase is in the federal rgulations.
You need to look at regulations issued by all the federal agencies, and not just executive orders.
The regulations issued by HEW, OSHA, NLRB, IRS, etc, are found in the Code of Federal Regulations, CFR. These have the force of law unless a court strikes it or part of it, such as the federal court that just struck EPA's regulation that it can regulate rain water from your roof to your gutters to discharge.
Have fun reading CFR.
KennesawJack| 1.8.13 @ 1:38PM
Give DRed a break, CJ. He at least got the SAINT part right when referring to Reagan.
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 4:09PM
Welcome back KJack, and hang in there.
Drunken Sailor| 1.8.13 @ 1:51PM
You don't have to issue executive orders when you have a super majority or useful idiots in the Senate to do it for you, now do you?
Doctor Right| 1.8.13 @ 1:28PM
It's amazing that you think anyone on this board (well, except for Jack in Wi) cares about the color of Obama's skin.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 2:44PM
Thank You, Doctor Right.
Thank You.
DRed| 1.8.13 @ 3:15PM
TLP| 5.21.12 @ 6:47AM
Now that the Census Data shows that, for the first time in American History - the number of White babies born exceeded by the number of babies born to Non-White Minorities the question is: What does this mean for the future of American Society?
That's easy.
Yugoslavia
Right. Those are the words of a man who doesn't care about skin color.
Stephie| 1.8.13 @ 3:05PM
DRed, do you regressive liberals EVER tire of using the race card? Yaaawnn.......it's lost it's sting. I don't care anymore. It's an accusation that cannot be disproven and the left knows it. I'll tell you what I hate about obama, it's his white half. Did you know his mamma was lilly white? I detest his white half. His being brought up by white communist women, going to a white prepschool. He's no black man, he just chose the black life as an adult to use as his ticket to free school and to make a living off the misery of others. No, I'd take a nice black republican any day of the week but you can keep the half white barack hussein obama.
Joellen| 1.8.13 @ 6:56PM
Stephie - so well stated; the truth is only Liberals have labels, black vs white vs yellow; female vs male; gay vs straight vs transgender; youth vs old; they never look at the individual for what they can excel at due to the gifts bestowed to them by ABBA Father - no way - no how - it's all about what the government can and will allocate to whom they deem the to be the receiver.
So in order to divide race, sex, age, wealth status, etc., they promote hate, division and dependence.
By the way - notice that they can never articulate what a liberal agenda has actually achieved. No, as someone stated - look at COW (Communist over Wall street). What did they achieve, well they destroyed property, raped women; at least three deaths; drug overdoses; etc.
Compared those punks to the Tea Party who actually got good people elected to both the congress & senate; and we aint done yet!
Arnie| 1.8.13 @ 10:57AM
TLP,
That's funny. WE THE PEOPLE voted in Barack Obama with over 51% of the vote. I think you might have to rethink your incredibly insightful, yet incredibly short (like your 'man' noodle), theory about Obama.
I know it burns you, the racist and homophobe that you are, that a black president is more successful, more educated, more respected, and more endowed than you, rose to such heights, while you can not get the respect of your wife.
Take up sewing classes, or adopt some turtles, these things may calm you down.
Cheers and good luck.
anna k from emory u| 1.8.13 @ 11:12AM
Arnie and nm;
It is bad form to capitalize your letters; it is like shouting. Please heed Trish Trotter's advice and lower the volume.
Arnie| 1.8.13 @ 11:13AM
Sorry, I was writing in TLP script.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 11:34AM
Look who's here.
Frau Anna, from Our New Hitler's very own Vril Society. Here to MONITOR OUR SPEACH, like a Good Nazi.
Everybody say HEIL to Anna.
I see your leader is off again to his Eagle's Nest, for another Lavish Tropical Vacation, costing Millions of Dollars, while the rest of is struggle to make ends meet.
Lying on the white sands of Hawaii, thinking of the right words he can use when he, once again, implores us all to Share in the Sacrifice.
I would tell you what a wonderful Nazi you would've made, but that would be silly. You're a wonderful Nazi right now, here in the present. Is true that Nazi women cannot have a bowel movement because of the extraordinary constriction of their Sphincters? If it is, I can't say that anyone here would be surprised.
Are you here to buy Lampshades from Jack? Vaseline from Pelleas? Or a load a crap from DRek? But, then, why would need to buy his load a crap, when you have so much of your own, already?
SIEG HEIL, Herr Anna.
Von Mises Jr| 1.8.13 @ 1:03PM
Kill them anna. Abort the dopes for spelling errors.
Doctor Right| 1.8.13 @ 1:32PM
Oh, goodie! I was actually hoping you'd show up today! I had a cancellation, so now I've got time to kill.
How's the indoctrination at Emory going, these days?
Did you remember to feel smugly superior to everyone else over the Holidays as you went around town giving sandwiches to winos, druggies, and bums? Oops! I'm sorry...I meant the "Abode-Challenged."
anna k from emory u| 1.8.13 @ 1:58PM
Doctor, it was horrible. Those who received turkey sandwiches wanted ham. Those who got the ham complained that it wasn’t halal, and reported me to the local ecumenical diversity board. The homeless then googled me at my local library, and then had a party at my house while I was out doing good works, and helped themselves to some of my treasured possessions.
If anyone in downtown Atlanta sees anyone wandering about in a “Gore 2000” hat, "Kerry-Edwards 2004" sweatshirt, and pink sweat pants with the “Obama” seal across the buttocks, along with an “Obama-Biden 2012” scarf, please notify me in care of the Emory University switchboard.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 2:48PM
I'm assuming that by: "Some of my prized possessions", she means the Free Vibrator she got in NYC from the people from Trojan.
Anthony| 1.8.13 @ 3:39PM
Hmmm, with comments such as these, I'm beginning to become a fan of anna k from emory u. But I always did like southern girls!!
Hey anna, if I return your Kerry-Edwards 2004 sweatshirt, and your pink sweat pants with the "Obama" seal across the buttocks, will you send us pictures of you wearing same?
It's ok, my doctors, Frank Drackman M.D. and Occam's Tool M.D. have told me that these pictures will not induce any adverse reactions to my 500mm dosage of Cialas.
But if you require a note from my doctors,they'll be happy to oblige me.
Anthony| 1.8.13 @ 2:49PM
anna k, Congratulations!!! Emory Univ. kicked Notre Dame's ass last night big time, and that was with the girls volleyball team!!!
What game you Emory gals have!!!
anna k from emory u| 1.8.13 @ 5:43PM
Thank you for your offer of assistance, Anthony, and your encouraging words about the ladies on the volleyball squad.
anna k from emory u| 1.8.13 @ 5:46PM
I realize that I have been a very bad influence here in the past, and I hope to repent my earlier sins
anna k from emory u| 1.8.13 @ 6:04PM
I know that I have seemed like an ambassador for trouble, and I have loosed many unbalanced allies to wreak havoc on the thread.
anna k from emory u| 1.8.13 @ 6:07PM
In the future, I will don sackcloth and ashes, as this is the only wardrobe the homeless vandals left me after trashing my place on Christmas Eve.
anna k from emory u| 1.8.13 @ 6:10PM
If you were to retrieve my missing leisure campaign wear, not only will I pose for you, but I plan to sue the miscreants who took advantage of my smug charity. I hope, as an attorney, that you can help me with my briefs, Anthony.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 11:18AM
First of all, he did not get over 51%.
Second of all: In typical Lib Fashion, you don't know what you're talking about. He's more Educated than me? You don't know that. You don't even know how educated he is. He's hidden all of those Records away.
Thirdly, I couldn't care less if he was Black. I wanted Herman Cain.
I hate him cause he's RED.
HE's more respected? Have you seen the number of Gun Sales, sweetheart. That's not Respect.
And, as far as my wife goes? She loves me. My Kids Love me. I have lots of friends. Do have any of these things?
What about your Boyfriend? Does he have any of these things? Does he love you?
What about the Neighbor who's been Molesting you, since the 9th Grade?
Surely, someone loves you.
No?
Gee, I wonder why?
You're so personable, and clever.
Arnie| 1.8.13 @ 11:25AM
Well, you're definitely wrong on the first point, so I assume you are also incorrect on all the others.
Obama did get over 51%.
http://www.cbsatlanta.com/stor.....obamas-win
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AjYj9mXElO_QdHpla01oWE1jOFZRbnhJZkZpVFNKeVE&toomany=true
Oooh, damn you're a little bitch. :-)
vtwin| 1.8.13 @ 12:49PM
... and "Obama is the first president since Republican Dwight Eisenhower to win back-to-back presidential elections with more than 51 percent of the popular vote."
Doctor Right| 1.8.13 @ 1:35PM
WRONG.
Reagan had 52.5% in 1980, and 53% in 1984,
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 2:50PM
What a shocker.
vtwin was wrong.
Arnie| 1.8.13 @ 4:55PM
Nope. Vtwin is correct. Reagan had 50.7% in 1980.
Suck it. You guys are wrong. Please provide your source of information....idiots.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.....tion,_1980
vtwin| 1.8.13 @ 6:35PM
Sorry Doc.
1980 50.75%
http://uselectionatlas.org/RES.....?year=1980
1984 58.77%
http://uselectionatlas.org/RES.....?year=1984
Doctor Right| 1.8.13 @ 7:08PM
Sorry, Vtwin. You're wrong.
DRed| 1.8.13 @ 8:15PM
It doesn't really matter much, but unless you've got some other evidence, doc, just saying vtwin is wrong doesn't prove anything. Are his links wrong?
C'mon Man!| 1.8.13 @ 5:22PM
I wanted Cain, too.
PolishKnight| 1.8.13 @ 1:10PM
I'm always amused at leftist jeers against allegedly racist conservatives in that the left, including even Obama himself, tends to prefer to live among white people. His minister Rev Wright lives in a gated most white community. The left uses Western Europe, Canada, Australia and American military occupied Japan as the model for how the world should be.
The "real" world for either ideology is the natural state of their cultures when there isn't infinite money for the treasury to print up. Say, Alabama for conservatives and Detroit for the left. Most intellectuals, including and especially leftists, would prefer to live in Alabama. They are hypocrites at so many levels they take it to the sublime and into Orwell.
Arnie, say hello to your white neighbors for me.
Louis Jenkins| 1.8.13 @ 8:48AM
Comparing Hitler to Obama is like comparing apples to apples. Obama is a smooth talker-a great speech maker with a teleprompter. Just look at how his presentations are arranged. A crowd of adoring numbskulls are always behind him. Obama controls everything! He even, through the EPA, controls the air we breathe. Can't get much more Hitler-like than that.
Gun control-one of the men on the Biden gun grabbing team had a son, now serving time for a mass killing plot. If you want good apples go to the tree. If you want bad apples do the same. Can't get more Hitler-like than that.
What he can't pass in congress he gets by decree. The Simpson Bowles commission is disgusted at this last tax increase without spending reductions. Go look it up.
It doesn't matter, Hitler-Obama, Obama-Hitler. Obama is Hitler re-incarnated. The only difference is Obama choice of women, and the media is all agaga of her.
Come and get them, if you dare.
buckeyeman| 1.8.13 @ 9:22AM
Well, TLP, I hope that your wife at least appreciates your political prowess.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 9:58AM
I know. It's amazing.
I seem to do everything better when I'm using my hands.
Everything.
Von Mises Jr| 1.8.13 @ 9:29AM
Hitler also had universal health care that was the first legislative feat of the Obama regime along with a $787B stimulus package that brought us fascism with GM, GE, GS and AIG to name a few.
Hitler and the Nazis were also big on controlling the populace with "environmentalism" and "green" propaganda.
I am with TLP. The Marxist invented "Cultural Marxism" that is the basis of "political correctness." Nobody has accused Obama of killing six-million Jews, but if I were Bibi I would be wondering whether it was in the cards. Cultural Marxism and political correctness is a game where if you shut up, you lose.
Go TLP. You’re the man even if your wife fakes orgasms. You can't trust them either.
Tom Kyba| 1.8.13 @ 11:41AM
Yet here you are Mr. Wonderful. Full of manufactured disgust. We've heard from your type before. You and the rest of the 5th grade trolls. You're the ones represented in "The Mummy" by the crowd marching slack-jawed and mumbling "Imhotep...Imhotep...Imhotep!
mike 3/505| 1.8.13 @ 12:05PM
O, Ba, Ma...O, Ba, Ma...O, Ba, Ma
Jim Adcox| 1.8.13 @ 11:13AM
If you drew a Hitler moustache on Baracko Mussolini, would it be considered racist, a hate crime, a crime against the people? Seig Choom!
Al Adab| 1.8.13 @ 12:05PM
Naah no problem. The Left showed pictures of Bush like that with the Hitler moustache for eight years and after all, as they taught us, "dissent is the highest form of patriotism." Obviously such comments are protected speech, aren't they?
Seek| 1.8.13 @ 9:42PM
Your post is not to be believed, TLP.
If Obama really were like Hitler, this website, to say nothing of others in opposition, would have been shut down years ago. R. Emmett Tyrrell would have "disappeared." And Hitler, contrary to mythology, despised labor unions. In the spring of 1933, only months after assuming power, he abolished all German trade unions and imprisoned their leaders. Now does that sound like Obama?
As for Hollywood "propaganda," get real. If you believe that, say, "Hope Springs," "Mirror, Mirror" or "The Hunger Games" were odes to Obama or National Socialism, you're probably a little crazier than I'd thought.
Note: I voted for Romney, not Obama, though not with any great enthusiasm. I want to repeal all affirmative action. But we damage the conservative brand name when we talk like fools.
rhcrest| 1.10.13 @ 5:37PM
That was exactly what i thought when i read that. Is this guy serious? Hitler confiscated guns which O is attempting to do. Hitler nationalized health care. Hitler regulated businesses so much that they went out of business. Hitler removed God from the schools which O did not do but his party did it for him already. Hitler hauled people away never to be seen again - alive anyway. Obama gave himself the same authority with the NDAA. And then there are all the similarities that you mention. I just read an article about a woman who was 10 when Hitler came to power and she said all the same things are happening today that happened then including clueless people who reacted in disbelief when told what Hitler was really all about. The people who were trying to warn everyone were called idiots then too.Even look at the adoring crowds in old footage, adoring their messiah just like the Obots. Like i said, is this author for real?
rhcrest| 1.10.13 @ 5:41PM
Oh and Hitler also demonized certain groups of people against one another.
SCMike| 1.8.13 @ 7:02AM
It looked for a while that the Republicans had no objectives to satisfy with the upcoming increase in the debt limit. However, somebody’s come up with a rather grand idea: the House should pass a budget that includes the increase in the debt limit, as Byron York reports.
As Senator Jeff Sessions puts it:
"I think it should be a firm principle that we should not raise the debt ceiling until we have a plan on how the new borrowed money will be spent. If the government wants to borrow money so it can spend more, then the government ought to tell the Congress and the American people how they will spend it."
This is brilliant on many levels. How can the liberal MSM take issue with forcing the Senate to finally fulfill its responsibility and pass a budget as part of the national debt increase? It’s an objective all Republicans can get behind, and may attract more than a few Dem votes too.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 8:10AM
Exactly.
I read that story as well.
It's insane to even consider doing anything with the Debt Ceiling, without a BUDGET in place.
It still drives me crazy that our side has all that Power - The Power to De-Fund anything their Hearts desire - but are, literally, too scared to use it.
It really looks like it's time to take a Page outta the Left's Playbook, and take a MOB out to Ohio, and pay Johnny Boner a Visit, WHERE HE LIVES, like Caesar did, when he had his Troops build a Bridge across the Rhine River. He crossed his Army over the River, knowing his Enemy was watching, for no other reason than to REMIND THEM of the Power of Rome, and that Rome could Force its will upon them, whenever it wished to.
When Caesar was finished walking the Forest, he took his Army back across the River, and dismantled the Bridge. (Like the Tea Party people do, after a Rally)
He had Made his Point.
Business needs to be discussed, Face to Face. He needs to be reminded of OUR Power.
Veni Vidi Vici.
Capisce?
KennesawJack| 1.8.13 @ 9:35AM
Ponte facto, Caesar transit. It's really as simple as that. Simply takes balls, of which Boehnor and McConnell have none. In the words of one of his Scottish fighters to Wallace in Braveheart, "We are fooked!".
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 10:04AM
Where have you been, ole pal a Mime?
KennesawJack| 1.8.13 @ 12:19PM
Issues with my wife's 91 year old Mother over the holidays and a good friend of mine, a man for whom I have immense respect, is in hospice. On top of all that, this Muslim Mussolini wannabe is still in office. Haven't felt particularly combative or creative the past few weeks, a bit like the wind is out of the sails for awhile. But this, too, shall pass. I just hope the country lasts that long.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 3:03PM
Understood.
My mom is 82.
When your Mom finally passes, as when my Grandmother passed, at age 98, try to remember that she is going to a Better Place. Try not to be sad. Be happy for her.
That's what I did, and it made her passing that much easier to understand.
I still cried my eyes out, but I knew, that she was at peace.
I hope that helps.
KennesawJack| 1.8.13 @ 8:07PM
It does. Thank you.
C'mon Man!| 1.8.13 @ 5:35PM
I doubt Obama knew that, for the idiot who claimed Obama is smarter than our Timmy!
buckeyeman| 1.8.13 @ 9:39AM
"This is brilliant on many levels."
Actually, Mike, I think it's IDIOTIC on every level. It's kinda like Cleavon Little holding himself hostage in Blazing Saddles. Why not just cut through all the crap and unequivocally refusing to raise the debt limit now. Thus, SOMEONE in charge (Barry?) would have to develop a prioritized plan on what money to spend where (commonly called a "budget").
Refusal to raise the debt limit is not a means to an end, it is, an end in itself, the end that we all want.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 10:08AM
And, there you have.
The Soul of Wit.
squalis| 1.8.13 @ 9:54AM
You would expect Obama to follow the rules of a proposed spending plan for newly borrowed money? Why would you or any Republican / Conservative have faith in that?
nathan| 1.8.13 @ 7:03AM
There are at least 2 major problems with what Lord writes here. First like virtually everyone, he gets Munich wrong. The great myth handed down over the last 7o years or so is that Chamberlain "appeased" Hitler at Munich which forestalled a mutiny against him by his generals and therefore led to WWII, the Holocaust, the Cold War you name it. The problem besides that fact that GB had no obligation to defend CS, is that GB had no land border with Germany. France who did had already made it clear that they were not going to act. Daladier the French leader was not going to risk another war over CS and if he wasn't going to act and he DID have a land border with Germany then why should Chamberlain act? But we forget too that the one person who had the absolute obligation to do something refused to do so? Who was that? The CS leader of course and I bet not one of you know his name. Benes. Who cares if France and GB were not prepared to confront Hitler? Benes as the leader of CS had the absolute obligation to defend HIS country He and only him. He should have massed his tanks at the border and told Hitler, BRING IT ON. People say, well he might have lost. And exactly what chance did the Founders have when they confronted the British? You defend YOUR country win or lose because it's the right thing to do. We need to quit blaming Chamberlain here who was the person with the least responsibility and put the blame on Benes and secondarily if you must on the French leader.
nathan| 1.8.13 @ 7:10AM
Neocons use the wrong lesson of Munich as a reason for their imperialistic ventures like Iraq and Vietnam and others. No, the countries under attack first and foremost must defend themselves and not look to others to do it for them.
As to the other problem. He quotes Reagan about confronting the Soviets. All well and good but where was that resolve in confronting democrats in congress? He never showed it. Again, Mr. Lord tell us one great "domestic" action Reagan is famous for except for the tax cut. A program he got eliminated. The quote shows again that Reagan was a neocon, not a conservative and that his focus like that of his mentor WFB was external not domestic. And because he did nothing to slow the growth of those domestic programs we find ourselves in the mess we're in today. He was the last president that might have been able to push back the New Deal/Great Society. He didn't. He was too busy playing neocon games. Win abroad, lose at home. That's his ultimate legacy.
pogybait| 1.8.13 @ 7:52AM
Also remember how he brought the world to the brink of nuclear Armageddon by confronting the Soviets, how he created the AIDS plague to kill gays and blacks, how he put flowers on Hitler's grave, murdered John Lennon, and sold arms to terrorists and yet the right-wing media tries desperately to portray the Reagan era as a time of unbridled national optimism and pride, it was in fact an era of misery and shame. It just goes to show you that every once in a while some crazy cowboy warns the public about some progressive evil and then allows those reclusive Republican establishments to once again hide rather than face outright ridicule for changing anything. Just when are those Republicans going to learn, as the French have, that the best way to deal with tyrants to offer them a hand in trust and friendship?
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 7:59AM
pogybait
You forgot that he closed all the steel mills, sent all jobs to overseas (that also means Mexico, purpie), and ended disco. He should have bowed like O and sold cable companies to Jihadi News like Aljazeera Gore.
chuck| 1.8.13 @ 8:07AM
Reagan ended disco?
Wow, he was greater than I thought!
Albert Constantine Jr.| 1.8.13 @ 9:07AM
It has been written that it was one of the great covert operations in the history of our Republic. When RWR fired the air traffic controllers, as they were cleaning out their desks, platoons of CIA operatives dressed like union electricians went into the recording studios and took out the “wah-wah” pedals and other gimmickry that helped propagate the disco beat.
They were discovered and forced to retreat before they seized all of the synthesizers, though, which helps to explain much of the sound of the mid to late 80s in pop music.
While in a coma in his hospital bed, William Casey is reported to have told Bob Woodward that this operation was one of his proudest moments as CIA Director.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 9:18AM
Was this before, or after Reagan Killed Jesus?
TPL| 1.8.13 @ 11:34AM
Killed Jesus? Not a bad idea. I always hated that sissy.
anna k from emory u| 1.8.13 @ 2:01PM
TPL, as my feminist heroine Maude used to say: "God will get you for that".
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 3:07PM
You defile HIS name when you speak it.
Have fun in Hell when you Die, alone, with no one to grieve you, after wasting your life.
I hear it's warm, this time of year.
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 9:23AM
You must have an advance copy of Woodward's new book ,"RR, FDR, the Jews, the CIA, Disco, and Pear Harbor: How FDR refused to negotiate with the Japanese, because an actor, RR, told him to not negotiate."
JackWi is a source.
Al Adab| 1.8.13 @ 11:10AM
W:
Read The Cassandra Project to learn the "truth" about the events surrounding Watergate. It's right up there with the rest of fictional history.
BTW it is actually a fun read as Sci- fi
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 1:40PM
Al Adab
I will look for it.
Did you read the Colodny book about the Watergate breakin, "Silent Coup."
It was a John Dean, the rat-weasel, operation to retrive some documets relating to his wife, Mo? There was never a real good explanation why the five broke into the Dem headquarters.
What would they find there that was of any value? Speeches, travel plans, all junk that was in the NYTimes and other papers.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 1.8.13 @ 2:11PM
CJW;
I was just recommending "Silent Coup" to someone last week.
If I recall correctly from the 1990s, Dean tried to see Colodny for libel, and had his case thrown out of court due to its lack of merit.
Al Adab| 1.8.13 @ 2:18PM
W:
I have Silent Coup and found it a tenable view. What was the point of the break in if not something to protect someone or to impress the boss. Senseless in either case.
Always bothered me that Barry Goldwater Jr. had John Dean co-write Pure Goldwater.
Cassandra is Sci-fi about the real reason. Like I say, a fun read.
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 4:16PM
Albert and Al Adab
I believe you are correct about Dean suing and losing. I think he also tried to sue Gordon Libby, or G challenged Dean to sue him. I will have to look it up.
The break in never made any sense. There was nothing there of any value.
John Dean is trying to make a comeback as a lefty.
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 8:00AM
Who are the neocons?
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 8:57AM
Why is it that, whenever the nathans or the Purps or the RCVs or the DReds describe something, it always reminds me of the the Blind Men and the Elephant?
When Nixon was in Office, Lying was bad. When Clinton was there, CNN did a Special on "Why Lying is Good".
When Clarence Thomas was accused by Anita Hill of having a Pubic Hair on a Coke Can? Everybody was supposed to believe her, because "Women don't lie about things like that". But when one Woman after another came out, accusing Bill Clinton of RAPE, Molestation, Fondling, Groping, and Indecent Exposure? The Left went after these Women as Liars, Sluts, Whores, and "Something you get when you drag a Hundred Dollar Bill through a Trailer Park.
When Bush was in office Deficits were Bad. Now, they're good. In fact, we need MORE DEFICITS.
They FREAKED OUT because Bush was gonna look at their Library Cards, yet they say Nothing now that The Muslim has his Agencies Monitoring all of our Communications, everywhere. And, they are Silent as Obama seeks Control over the Internet.
They wanted Reagan Impeached for waging an Illegal War in Nicaragua. They set up: The War Powers Act. Obama went to WAR in Libya with No Consultations with Congress, let alone, its Approval. The Left never said a word.
George Bush went to the UN, and got TWO RESOLUTIONS through Congress, for The Use Of Force in Iraq, and the Left STILL went Ballistic.
Liberalism is the Ultimate Psychosis. It's the total lack of touch with reality.
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 9:03AM
Congress also authorized the Iraq/Afghan wars.
If the Dems do it, it is good. If the Reps do it, it is bad. That is the word from the MSM, and 51% of the voters.
Purp| 1.8.13 @ 3:54PM
Ha - guess you'll have to put up with it then, huh? LMAO
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 4:18PM
Purp the Village Idiot
Now purpie descends into racism:
"Oh, and YOU'RE a LOSER ... can't even beat the black man... you're so awful... hahahaha (that's for your last line, you wanna dish it out, then take it)"
Can't even beat the "black man?" So you believe blacks are inferior and easy to beat.
Keep posting moron, you provide fresh material every day.
You are truly an idiot and a racist
sickofit5| 1.8.13 @ 10:06AM
You left out that it is alright to appoint an anti-gay agenda defense secretary just as long as he is more anti-Israel.
nathan| 1.8.13 @ 10:25AM
Sir: respectfully. As always sadly and it is sad, you don't address the points I made. At Munich, Benes and Benes ALONE, seeing that it was HIS country after all had the SOLE responsibility to confront Hitler. Not Chamberlain. Tell the class if you will what Chamberlain was going to threaten Hitler with given that Daladier was not going to play. Yes, there was a letter from some generals telling the British that they were prepared to overthrow Hitler if there was a show of force. But how much credibility was any British leader going to give something like that AT THE TIME?
Benes on the other hand could have, and absolutely should have massed his very excellent tanks (the Germans used them late) at the border and defended HIS country. Care to address THAT issue sir? What we see folks is when you call 911 international or otherwise (how did that work for the Tutsis?) you don't get much. Defense is your responsibility not someone elses. THAT sir is the real lesson of Munich. And I'm sorry what part of "illegal" don't you and others get? Reagan knew the law and if chose to violate it then impeach him. He wasn't above it. When OBH violates it for HIS good intentions are you equally understanding? And the war in Iraq was wrong. You're a "conservative". Care to cite me a quote from a Founder that in support of THAT venture? You can't.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 3:10PM
You don't have any "Points".
Your pointless.
Like your pathetic life has been.
Purp| 1.8.13 @ 3:57PM
Typical in the mud morality, Timmy
You're is spelled You're ... but you're so high and mighty, right?
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 4:18PM
Purp the Village Idiot
Now purpie descends into racism:
"Oh, and YOU'RE a LOSER ... can't even beat the black man... you're so awful... hahahaha (that's for your last line, you wanna dish it out, then take it)"
Can't even beat the "black man?" So you believe blacks are inferior and easy to beat.
Keep posting moron, you provide fresh material every day.
You are truly an idiot and a racist
Houdini| 1.8.13 @ 10:49AM
TLP, I think you just won your own contest.
Tom Kyba| 1.8.13 @ 11:48AM
Now you've done it TLP. You've exposed their hypocracy again. Now they're all running in circles around their computers wetting themselves. Think of the wasted water resources required for the cleanup. Oh wait, they're liberals. They probably enjoy the feeling.
Purp| 1.8.13 @ 6:56PM
Timmy - because you are dumb.
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 7:25PM
Purp the Village Idiot
Now purpie descends into racism:
"Oh, and YOU'RE a LOSER ... can't even beat the black man... you're so awful... hahahaha (that's for your last line, you wanna dish it out, then take it)"
Can't even beat the "black man?" So you believe blacks are inferior and easy to beat.
Keep posting moron, you provide fresh material every day.
You are truly an idiot and a racist
John Navratil| 1.8.13 @ 9:48AM
nathan,
You have a fairly simply view of the Sudeten crisis. Czechoslovakia has existed as a nation for just about twenty years, had many ethnic Germans in the Sudeten. The Munich agreement was a deal between the other powers, specifically feckless France, to abandon a mutual defense pact and leave the Czech tanks to defend the Sudeten while everyone else watched. You credit Chamberlain as having the least responsibility when we was the most powerful representative in Europe working to counter Germany. It was he who waved the slip of paper to the adoring crowds only to be exposed as the weak man he was.
As to your dismissal of mutual defense treaties ("Bring it on, Hitler" in your words), do you really find such treaties unimportant. Without them a larger hegemon simply devours smaller countries in sequence as was so amply demonstrated in 1938.
You may also note that manufacturing in Cz was as advanced as in Germany. This low fruit was also very rich - much to the dismay of the Allies.
nathan| 1.8.13 @ 10:31AM
Sir I'm sorry if you rely on others to defend you prepare to die real quick. Isn't that after all why we support gun rights? We say our personal defense is our responsibility and ours alone. How is this any different? Chamberlain wasn't the most powerful player here, France was. And again they had the land border. Fast forward a year. When Hitler invades Poland and GB declares war, what impact did that declaration have on Germany? None because lacking that land border and minimal air power GB had no ability to help Poland BY ITSELF and wouldn't have then either. Again, we need to see Munich for what it was, not for what the neocons keep telling us it was, an encouragement to confront every bad guy in the world they don't like.
John Navratil| 1.8.13 @ 10:58AM
nathan,
I don't want to be at your house facing the mob. I suppose you won't call the police out of principle. Our personal defence is NOT ours alone. That would be anarchy. We support gun rights to defend ourselves when necessary and we don't sit on the front porch with a shotgun on our lap. We also establish a rule of law and a force to defend it. There's your mutual defence pact among individuals.
France was so powerful, they collapsed like a cheap suit. They wanted to avoid war at all costs and took their lead from Chamberlain. Please explain how they were the powerful ones here, I'd really like to know.
The defence of Poland by Britain was made impossible by the Russian perfidy. But this my no means suggests Britain wasn't acting in aid of Polish interests by entering the war to attack their enemies.
Finally, we see what Munich led to - the consolidation of just about all the manufacturing on the Continent under a dictator and a World War. What's not to like?
nathan| 1.8.13 @ 12:12PM
Sir again, not a single mention of Benes. Why not jump on him? Why give him a pass? Every one does. France collapsed later but we didn't know at MUNICH that they would and neither did Hitler's generals. On paper they were quite formidible.
Am I going to call 911? Yes but during Katrina that got you what sir? The police abandoned whole areas in New Orleans. During the LA riots, where were the police then? Read the stories about how much at risk the grid is. If it goes down, call 911 all you want and in fact during the storms last summer, Verizon got jumped on because you COULDN'T call 911. I'm sorry in the end you have the obligation to defend yourself and so did Benes not Chamberlain. If he stands and fights, then maybe no Hitler, no WWII and no Cold War. Put the blame on him folks. Again his house, not Chamberlain's.
John Navratil| 1.8.13 @ 1:48PM
Beneš know the outcome which was why he wasn't given the time of day. Those Czech tanks would have been completely overrun in a war with a single small front full of ethnic Germans. Austria had already been consumed. There was no mutual support and the Czechs would have been slaughtered. All this was clear to Beneš. The reason the Sudeten was next in the food chain was those tanks.
As I said before, the reason smaller countries have mutual defense treaties is precisely so they band together. Britain and France sold them out. The alternative is a few large countries haven eaten the smaller ones.
nathan| 1.8.13 @ 2:44PM
I'll go with you first. July 4, 1776 Washington has no repeat no expection of help from anyone. He puts that beautiful mansion the Potomac on the line anyway. If he's captured he gets hung and the chances were pretty good he would be. You don't base your decision to fight on whether you win or lose, you base on the justness of your cause. Warsaw Ghetto Uprising anyone? They KNEW they were going to lose, they put it on the line anyway. If Benes thought that indeed "life was so dear and peace was so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery" that was his problem. But don't put that on anyone else but him. Patrick Henry at St. Johns Church (if you go there you can feel his presence even now) thought differently.
John Navratil| 1.8.13 @ 5:44PM
nathan,
Total bullshit!
Perhaps one wisely chooses not to ride into the Valley of Death, but rather live to fight another day. As Patton said, you don't go to war to get yourself killed but to get some other sonovabitch killed. Dying valiantly is still dying.
The Czechs were sold out. They had their time to die when the resistance confronted the Russians after Yalta - another sellout.
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 7:27PM
John,
You sound knowledgeable about Eastern Europe history. Am reading Anne Applebaum's "Iron Curtain" about the imposition of the Soviet evil empire after WWII in Eastern Europe. Interesting.
Drunken Sailor| 1.8.13 @ 11:10AM
Nathan, I get it you have issues with Lord's views on history but his overall point is valid. You're just nitpicking as to his examples.
That and the whole "Neo-Con" bit every time you disagree with someone is getting rather old.
Drunken Sailor| 1.8.13 @ 11:54AM
I see Anna and her wit is back. Interesting how any time her or Pelleas grace us with their presence we get all of the fake posters.
nathan| 1.8.13 @ 2:55PM
Let me do this as simple as possible. Lesson of Munich. Outsiders have to stand up to bad guy. White man burden, as long as one man is a slave, resist evil where ever you find it, basically don't anything that "remotely" looks like "appeasement" is not to be indulged. And any of us who say, well no, I don't think invading Iraq is the best idea, well we get Munich thrown at us. Or, is our national security REALLY at stake if Ho takes Saigon? APPEASEMENT! MUNICH! The mantra of the neocons for "every" foreign venture, most of them failures by the way in post war period. And we need to understand is that what we commonly understand to the LESSON OF MUNICH or to put it better, THE PRIMARY LESSON OF MUNICH wasn't what we've been taught. Chamberlain is at most a bit player here. If there's a "villain" (Hitler is a given of course) then start with Benes for not defending HIS country, go to Daladier who on paper had a formidible force and a common land border, and end with Chamberlain whose country was still in a rebuilding mode militarily and wasn't capable of doing much even if he wanted to. And understand that most conflicts are local, we don't need to be involved (VN was one of them) and that we aren't "appeasing" if we stay out of most if not all of these fights.
Drunken Sailor| 1.8.13 @ 3:35PM
Now let me make this as simple as possible for you. Forget the examples in the article and skip to the meat and potatoes.
Republicans and conservatives need to quit viewing each battle with Obama as a seperate entity and look at the entire plan. In other words,
The time to fight arrives.
I really don't give a shit about your or even Jeffrey Lords thoughts on the Lesson of Munich. Stop being anal about the details on focus on the big picture that is currently in front of us!
Jack in Wi| 1.8.13 @ 7:20AM
I agree with you Nathan. That is pretty good analysis. In 1939 after he beat Poland Hitler offered Britian and France a pretty good peace. In 1940 he did the same to England alone. It is said by many that he let the English get out of Dunkirk because he didn't want to humiliate them. If there had been peace negotiations, the Jews of Hitler's empire could of escaped the holocaust. Hitler knew if he killed all the Jews he would never have peace. Hitler wanted the Jews out and the English had 25% of the world's land mass to put them in. Hitler never wanted to go west. All his ambitions were east. We fought WW2 over freedom for Poland. The result of the war is we gave Hitler's partner half of Europe and a had a 50 year cold war. That was some victory.
chuck| 1.8.13 @ 8:09AM
Nice try defending your hero, "Der Fuhrer".
Jack in Wi| 1.8.13 @ 8:19AM
I am not defending Hitler or his crimes. I just believe we should look at history as it is, not some propaganda piece. The Holocaust was not inevitable. Most of Europe's Jews could have been saved if there had been the leadership and will to do so. The Jews had 3 great heros in WW2 FDR, Churchill, and Stalin. Their hero's didn't go out of their way to save many Jews. Put not your faith in princes. Politics is not the answer.
loulou| 1.8.13 @ 11:19AM
Tell the truth--you're Polish, aren't you? (Not that there's anything wrong with that)
I still say English is your second lanaguage.
TPL| 1.8.13 @ 11:27AM
Polish? Reminds me of this dude I met behind Safeway, but that's another story.
TPL| 1.8.13 @ 11:35AM
Whoa! And what a story.
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 8:24AM
Jack
Poor history.
Hitler and Stalin carved up Poland. You probably forgot that Japan attacked us on Dec 7, 1941, that we declared war upon Japan, and THEN Germany declared war on us. Britain and France declared war on Germany over Poland, not the USA.
Just because Hitler "wanted the Jews out" did not mean the Jews had to leave and settle in Uganda. The Jews had lived in Germany and were assimilated in the society.
You assume the Jews should have left because Hitler wanted them to leave, and it is the fault of the British for not forcing the Jews to leave.
Why don't you ever say it was wrong for Hitler to want the Jews out, and maybe Hitler should have left instead of the Jews?
Were the British also neocons?
Jack in Wi| 1.8.13 @ 8:57AM
The Japs wanted to negotiate. FDR refused to negotiate with peace party in Japan and then the war party took over. As Margaret Thatcher said. "
"It is better to jaw jaw then war war. " Your history stinks. The Jews were expelled scores of times from scores of countries. They moved on and survived for thousands of years. According to you the Jews were better off dead, then alive in Madagascar. It is time to do with Iran what Nixon did with China. Send an ambassador and negotiate for peace. The Iranians have been asking for that for at least 10 years. We don't need a 3rd world war that could be stopped by sane leadership, just like the first 2 could have been.
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 9:13AM
Jack
Did you really forget that the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, and there are over one thousand Americans still emtombed there?
Maybe you are right, the Japanese came to Pearl Harbor to negotiate but decided to bomb instead because FDR was not waiting for them at Pearl Harbor. It was the fault of FDR for being mean to the Japanese.
You are right Jack, it is the fault of those Jews for not leaving Germany, because after all, they were "expelled scores of times from scores of countries" so they should have left. Maybe the Poles should have left Poland, then no WW II according to you. Maybe the Brits should have left Britain to avoid the Battle of Britain.
Pecos Pete| 1.8.13 @ 9:26AM
And, if the Native American Indians had migrated to Australia, Sitting Bull and Custer wouldn't be famous.
Jack in Wi| 1.8.13 @ 9:56AM
Roosevelt knew the Japanese were coming and did nothing to warn the Far Eastern command. Read Robert Stinnet, Herbert Hoover, and John Toland among many others. He wanted a war and wanted to make sure we had a defeat to rally the people to his war. After all if he sent out the fleet to meet the Japanese maybe they would back down. He was already figthing an undeclared agressive war against Germany in the North Atlantic.The people didn't care and still refused to go to another European war. Declaring war on the USA was Hitler's biggest mistake. If he stayed neutral maybe Roosevelt would of had to fight the Japanese first, instead of last.
DRed| 1.8.13 @ 10:57AM
You know, Jack, sometimes it almost sounds like you were rooting for Hitler.
Drunken Sailor| 1.8.13 @ 11:11AM
Sometimes? Hell DR, we hardly agree on anything but surely we can agree on this?
TPL| 1.8.13 @ 11:29AM
I'm rooting for shitface over there. He keeps peering at me through the window, watching me . . . fuhget it
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 1:44PM
Dred,
finally I agree with you, except for the word "almost."
Anthony| 1.8.13 @ 11:01AM
Hate to say it, but Jack is right about FDR and his duplicity about going to war with Germany. FDR drove Churchill to the verge of madness with his constant zig zagging about finally coming to aid G.B. before it was too late. Read Citizens of London.
Even FDR's inner circle, Hopkins, Winart and Harrimen were at wits end trying to get FDR to get off his ass (sort of speak). The consensus of all, including Churchill, and Ed Morrow, who was in London for CBS, was that FDR was loathe to lead and was led by the polls.
FDR made it known that he needed a provocation in order to enter the war. He told Churchill that at their first meeting, in no uncertain terms.
No question, the stick in the eye to the Japanese was precisely the excuse FDR needed to get into the war, without having to have made a bold decision.
Yes, FDR, like his successors, Bill (Hillary) Clinton and Obozo (Holder) have left Americans to die in order to advance their causes or absolve them from having to make hard decisions.
It's what Democrats do.
nathan| 1.8.13 @ 3:00PM
Briefly sigh. The far east negotiations "probably" broke down when we demanded Japan leave China and they thought we meant Manchuria too. We didn't but Manchuria was non negotiable. Had that misunderstanding not taken place "maybe" no Pearl Harbor. But the great what if here is what if Japan doesn't attack us at all and only goes after Malaysia and Indonesia. FDR has not basis for declaring war. Now what? It would have been the smarter move.
Doctor Right| 1.8.13 @ 1:37PM
You really are a sick man.
Pecos Pete| 1.8.13 @ 8:05AM
And, Japan only bombed Pearl Harbor to defend themselves. They were only defending their rights as a member of the world's nations.
Peace in our time.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 1.8.13 @ 8:44AM
After all, the Japanese were only interested in preserving their way of life, with which we were interfering by refusing to continue to engage with them economically, and criticizing their attempts to move Asia forward.
We, on the other hand, were racists.
(Sources: Smithsonian staff of 1994; Tom Hanks)
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 10:20AM
I have heard, many times, that we Forced the Japanese to Bomb Pearl Harbour, when we stopped shipping them Raw Materials, and Metals.
The Blind Men, and the Elephant.
It's Unfreakinbelievable.
TPL| 1.8.13 @ 11:29AM
and superfragalistic or whatever
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 1:47PM
Tim
You got the TPL shadowing you, trying to confuse TLP with TPL. Funny, it appears whenever Anna appears.
Drunken Sailor| 1.8.13 @ 1:55PM
Pretty transparent isn't she?
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 3:43PM
You noticed that, did you?
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 4:20PM
A trained sleuth, as Spenser would say.
Simon Templar| 1.8.13 @ 11:36AM
Tom Hanks?Smithsonian staff? This is a joke, right?
Albert Constantine Jr.| 1.8.13 @ 11:53AM
Would that it were a joke, but Tom Hanks made his remarks in 2010, surrounding the release of his HBO series "The Pacific".
In 1994, the Smithsonian had an exhibit (I believe it was the Enola Gay) wherein they posited that the Japanese were merely fighting to preserve their way of life when they bombed us at Pearl Harbor, seized wake, the P.I., etc.
Joellen| 1.8.13 @ 7:20AM
I constantly wonder why our Republican Leaders dont have a gigantic room filled with the likes of Mr. Lord, Rush & David Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, TLP, CJW, Albert, Pecos Pete, etc and listen, really listen to the sage advice we would convey to them. Cause guess what we DO BELIEVE what Obama and company have planned for America and its not the destiny our Founding Fathers had planned.
This article is another send to. However, dont just send it to like minds, send it to Boehner, send it to your Congressman and Senator. Are we tired - you betcha - does it always seem to fall on deaf ears - yup - but GOOD LORD, this is our Country and if these men dont want to fight - then get out of the way and let those who will take up the sword. Get those leaders who ave the (how did TLP spell it) GUTS to take these traitors on.
One thing I specifically wish to point out, that Progessive/Marxist loon out there promoting to take down the Constitution - dont any one think "wow what a coincidence", this is planned folks. Timing is right, and just another example in which these people mean business - they are going to fundamently transform this country, like Obama said he would, unless we get out act together and fight them with all our heart and souls 2017 will be too late!
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 9:47AM
Why am I #8 on this List? I should be no further down than 5th.
I'm way better than those two Broads, and on more than one occasion, I've caught Rush using my stuff offa this site. One Monday he said: "We should have a Contest." (That one blew my mind.) "We should give Obama everything he wants." And, there were more. I know that he reads these columns, because he's good buds with Kengor and Jeffey.
And, it wasn't GUTS, it was NOTS. And I like the Cockney that you used there: "Get those Leaders who ave Guts to take these Trators on".
I see ya aven't lost your way around the King's English, ave ya missy?
You're a regular Peter Noon. (Herman's Hermits. Absolutely love those guys. They played at a Fair I was selling my shirts at, a coupla years ago. Bloody Fantastic.)
Mrs. brown you've got a lovely daughterrrrr. (Lovely daughterrrrrr)
Mrs. brown you've got a lovely girlllllllllll. (Lovely girllllllll)
Don't let onnnnn.
Don't say she broke my heart.
I'd go down on my knees
But it's no good to pine.
I got all day.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 1.8.13 @ 10:06AM
I’m TLP the first I yam
TLP the first I am I yam
I got banned from here because of Anna K
But they let me come back anyway
And every day when all the grass is cut
I’m back to give the President a slam
And if you think that’s bad you can F*%& yourself
TLP the first I am
(Second verse same as the first)
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 10:25AM
Now everyone is a TLP (TLP)
Nobody's a Willy or a Sam (or a Sam)
I'm the first ole man, I'm TLP
TLP the first, I am
This is so stupid.
And, I'm way younger than the rest a ya.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 10:28AM
"And if you think that's bad you can F*%& yourself"
I can' t stop laughing...............................
Arnie| 1.8.13 @ 12:13PM
Brain hemorrhage time.
Obama got over 51% of the vote!!!!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....obama-win/
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 4:52PM
He got 50.9%.
Arnie| 1.8.13 @ 4:58PM
Hey dummy, you have no source for your information. You just can't make shit up in the real word. Try again stupid.
mike 3/505| 1.8.13 @ 12:14PM
Big Al,
My Favorite song by Herman's hermits!
Albert Constantine Jr.| 1.8.13 @ 12:24PM
Every day is now Friday.
mike 3/505| 1.8.13 @ 12:43PM
Yee Hah!
loulou| 1.8.13 @ 11:22AM
Malkin and Ingraham are iffy. The rest I approve of.
Mike G| 1.8.13 @ 8:12AM
"I constantly wonder why our Republican Leaders dont have a gigantic room filled with the likes of Mr. Lord, Rush & David Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, TLP, CJW, Albert, Pecos Pete, etc and listen, really listen to the sage advice we would convey to them."
Listening to these people would require Republican leaders to actually be conservative. I don't see a conservative among them.
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 8:27AM
Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, Pat Toomey, Rand Paul, and many others. But not enough. Need more.
Al Adab| 1.8.13 @ 8:41AM
W:
A list of those who may yet be able to form a Conservative consensus and invigorate a Movement decimated by long years of deference to republican leadership. The GOP has betrayed the Movement for fifty years. As Everett Dirksen said to Tom Dewey, "Twice we followed you to defeat, will will follow you no longer."
loulou| 1.8.13 @ 11:23AM
Eric Cantor is a statist. Rubio is pro amnesty for illegals. The rest are stellar.
Add Louis Gohmert, Allen West and Jim DeMint.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 1.8.13 @ 8:12AM
"...Ronald Reagan’s wisdom about how to deal with the Soviet Union, as expressed in this exchange with ABC’s Sam Donaldson..."
That would be the same Sam Donaldson arrested last month in Lewes, Delaware for Driving under the Influence, in violation of 21 Del. C. S.4177.
JimH| 1.8.13 @ 8:14AM
It wasn’t just abject surrender by the West. Early on there was a fair amount of support for Fascists because it looked as if only they could stand up to the Communists. That and the fact that because of the losses in WWI there likely would have been revolutions in Britain and France had a major mobilization without a clear threat been tried. The GOP situation is more akin to what has been going on in Venezuela or Nicaragua where the El Supremo promises goodies to the proles while the opposition fails to unite and keeps squabbling among themselves.
Appleby| 1.8.13 @ 8:17AM
It's the End Times. Al of this was foretold. "And they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, and they did not know anything until the waters rose and swept them away."
Albert Constantine Jr.| 1.8.13 @ 8:46AM
"Al of this was foretold"
It wasn't this Al. Perhaps it was Mr. Adab.
Pecos Pete| 1.8.13 @ 8:55AM
More appropriately: Al "Mean Green" Gore
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 9:14AM
It is Aljazeera Gore.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 9:50AM
Maybe she means Al Zheimers?
Al Adab| 1.8.13 @ 1:02PM
Not me Mr. Constantine. The Koran speaks differently about the end times.
loulou| 1.8.13 @ 11:24AM
Reminds me of Berlin in 1933.
BackToBasics| 1.8.13 @ 9:20AM
from the article - "is a Speaker Boehner who had not — perhaps still has not — taken the full measure of his adversary"
If Boehner has not by now maybe he is afraid to admit it because then he would have to dig in for a real fight. Whatever the reason even though he was not born into privelege and comfort he does not seem to have the fortitude to fight.
I suspect some of it is fear of the media backlash. He also does not realize that it's too late to worry about that and Republicans now have nothing to lose by fighting Obama and Democrats.
Anthony| 1.8.13 @ 9:25AM
Boner and McCuckold got rolled by Obozo like the Tide rolled dem Jesuits last night.
As I said yesterday, only a world class fool would truly believe taxes were off the table after being rolled by Obozo, and Boehner and McConnell fill the bill.
To answer joellen's question, Boner and McCuckold are not in Washington to represent the people, they are there to survive and have long "careers in Washington". The two concepts are mutually exclusive. Washington is broken!!!
Fight indeed Mr. Lord. When do we pick up the pitch forks and storm D.C.?? Lead on, please, some conservative, LEAD ON!!!
Dave Williams| 1.8.13 @ 9:26AM
The one we REALLY have to watch out for is the movement to allow King Zero to rule on once his *holds nose* SECOND term expires. That power-hungry f*cker has the moxie to try for it, no question, and his assault on the Second Amendment is only the first step. We are in for some very dark times.....
sickofit5| 1.8.13 @ 10:23AM
This article is the proverbial closing of the barn door after the horses, cows, pigs, chickens and goats have gotten out. The reason I have no hair is the utter frustration that conservatives allow this guy to set the agenda on every issue and they deal with each issue as if it is completely unrelated to where this guy is going. We all know who he is and where he is taking the country. For Christ sake he said it in 2007 when he announced. "I want to f-u-n-d-a-m-e-n-t-a-l-l-y TRANSFORM the country." They shouldn't be afraid to say it when speaking about his intent. Good article but just a tad late for the idiots who are on the verge of becoming imbeciles that are in Congress.
Jack London| 1.8.13 @ 10:25AM
I'll bet Jeffery Lord has an SS uniform at home that he likes to parade around in - he's obsessed with the master race.
TLP| 1.8.13 @ 10:42AM
What a great Comment. What a Contribution to the whole conversation.
Go get your Boyfriend, (cause you're obviously one who disagrees with the whole notion that that Hole between your Butt Cheecks is for pushing things OUT, and not IN) and put on The Ellen Show.
I would be shocked to find out that you are NOT a Public School Teacher, a Congressional Staffer, a Published Author, or, at the very least, an Official Pivot Man for all of the Circle Jerks in all of the Gay Bars in the Village.
Unless you're locked in a Room, with round the clock Supervision by the Mental Health Staff at a State Fascility, somewhere?
You gotta be one of the other ones.
Jeff| 1.8.13 @ 3:30PM
Hmmm. The Nazis were socialists, Jack London. Your guys.
Grameri| 1.8.13 @ 10:49AM
LISTENING TO CHURCHILL
It’s the late 1930s and an old man paces
The corridors of Parliament, as his country races
To self destruction with the practiced eye
Of those who deny and deny and deny.
He waits and listens, shakes his head in defeat
As he hears his Prime Minister blather and bleat
About “peace in our time” and “Mr. Hitler’s” intention.
No one’s listening to Winston, so why bother to mention
That his Land’s unprepared to revisit the Hun.
After all victory there has already been won.
But a new breed is leading a new regime,
And those who realize it want to scream
To their fellow citizens “We can no longer wait.
We must make ready before it’s too late”!
Then Churchill takes charge, and the magnificent Few
Rouse the people of England, their courage renew.
But one thing is different today from then.
They had the USA to fall back on when
The forces of darkness would have swallowed all.
Who is there now to answer our call?
Time’s not on the side of the weak who just sigh
And forever deny and deny and deny.
Mimi Evans Winship
Pecos Pete| 1.8.13 @ 11:35AM
Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap!
Hardcard| 1.8.13 @ 11:18AM
the true difference is hitler had a mustache.
PolishKnight| 1.8.13 @ 11:22AM
I'm tempted to climb into a bath, light up some mood candles, put on some whale background noise, and channel the Dude and reflect that Jason Lord is such a reactionary.
Obama this and Obama that and try to stop Obama. In the meantime, Obama just waits for an opening and he gains more territory. He's on the offensive and conservatism has been on the defensive. With Obama, it's not just about raising taxes but writing new regulations and tax codes for his fascist cronies at GE and internet regulations for Disney and the music industry (with the approval from the Republican elites.) He buys votes via race and gender entitlements that builds up his base while tearing down the Republicans.
If we want to go with the WWII analogy, this is similar to the Republicans being Hitler in the bunker and then coming up with bold plans to win the war via his old military strategies of "total war". Quick, get out the copy of The Constitution from the Smithsonian. That'll save us!!!
Good luck with that. Republicans need to focus on the primary resources they have to win. Lowering taxes and spending is great, but it's like a pea shooter at a Sherman tank. They need to defend their demographic first and foremost. If we liken this to war, the Republicans fret about the style of their uniforms more than how to use their weapons.
Pecos Pete| 1.8.13 @ 11:36AM
PK: Excellent!
loulou| 1.8.13 @ 11:25AM
Here is the problem: Boehner is not very bright and has no ballz. McConnell is smart but has no ballz. Both are go along to get along types.
SUBVET| 1.8.13 @ 11:42AM
Who knew......................
Arnie| 1.8.13 @ 12:11PM
Brain hemorrhage time.
Obama got over 51% of the vote!!!!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....obama-win/
Arnie| 1.8.13 @ 12:11PM
Brain hemorrhage time.
Obama got over 51% of the vote!!!!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....obama-win/
PolishKnight| 1.8.13 @ 12:19PM
I have found a bit of the pony's tail in all the crap: exit polls showed that YOUNG white males were majority Republican. I'm surprised that it's not a plurality since, for me, my college days were about illustrating to me why it would be "ignorant" to be anything but: Everywhere I went on campus, I was reminded that as a white male I was the cause of all the world's problems and how everyone else could flag down a campus officer for their most minor requests. Entire buildings were dedicated to women's resources and soon other buildings followed. Being a straight white male on a college campus is having a target on your back.
What fool could go through that and vote Democrat?
But simultaneously, the Republicans do NOTHING for their white male base. Zilch. Even many of the Constitutionalists rationalize that outsourcing and illegal immigration is ok because business owners make money off of the practices. It's like selling rope to Lenin.
So imagine what would happen if the Republicans took up civil rights for whites and men as a cause. Not only would it energize their base but it would perhaps bring in others (such as black men and even minority men) who feel oppressed by feminism. In addition, it would energize a debate where the left has gotten away with racism for years against white males (they don't like to blurt it out).
Simon Templar| 1.8.13 @ 12:40PM
Feminism was never about enhancing women, protecting women, or equality. It was entirely about unseating men, all men, from their traditional roles, self reliance, and dominance(their strength), as well as women, and shifting power to the state. The Left intended to recreate society and destroy the traditional family and gender roles as it was seen as an impediment to the new utopia and the necessary conditions to bring about this "utopia."
The Republicans or shall we say conventional establishment Republicans do not have a clue, never had read any Left wing literature, and have never been able to address these social movements and left wing agendas for nearly a century with any meaningful or effective counter offense. They have just figured out that the educational system has been corrupted and is being used as a tool for further enculturation and brainwashing of future voters, see the Sowell article today.
PolishKnight| 1.8.13 @ 1:21PM
Feminism was about a lot of things and few of them was about equality as you and I know Simon. For the feminist elites, they were often lesbian marxists who wanted to alienate naive "fresh meat" career women from their fathers and potential husbands and get them into bed. Young women often complain about sexual harassment by tenured women professors but good luck with making such charges stick.
But far more populist was the feminist ideal sold to millions of women of the "double dip": They could get a fun, high paying career beating average, "loser" men (many conservative men here no doubt support their daughters in these endeavours) and then turn around and marry traditional breadwinning men. The same women carrying "save the whale" placards didn't give a second thought to the imminent shortage of successful men.
Next ,there's the men who were sold on the promise of "easy" sex with loose women and getting "lewinskys" on a hook up (first dates no longer necessary). That's one of the few benefits young men have gotten out of this and a lot of men were willing to give up everything else for it and they deserve a share of the blame.
Finally, there are the idealistic chivalrists ready to go down with the ship to demonstrate their manhood or as I refer to them: The Judean People's Front: suicide squad. They show how manly they are by bashing men and praising women no matter how badly the women act. And women learn that men are doormats.
Simon Templar| 1.8.13 @ 2:10PM
Yes, very well said and very accurate description.
To give anyone who has doubts about the level of brainwashing that has occurred in this society, one only needs to think back to the weeks after 9-11.
I do not know if you remember this but there was a great deal of talk then about how American men were actually so respectful and caring of their women. This was a BIG revelation as news was coming out about the Afghanistan terror and persecution of women in their society and providing a dose of reality and perspective. This did not last long as the Left got back to the victimology and male bashing in short time.
PolishKnight| 1.8.13 @ 3:38PM
Joan Rivers, to her credit, really showed what a trailblazer she is of the left's philosophy when she said that the firefighters and policemen who died in 9-11 saved at least a number of women the trouble of later filing DV charges against them if they had lived.
I found that comment amusing for a reason she may not have meant: Many of those policemen may have experienced FALSE accusations of DV if their wife had attacked them during a marital spat and the man was guilty of DV simply by being there. The new standard of feminism is that women should abuse men and the men should be strong and "take it."
Both Joan Rivers and her daughter are divorced.
Bottom line Simon: Why did GWB and even Reagan go around the world to defend other peoples' rights when their own electorate was having theirs violated here at home?
Purp| 1.8.13 @ 3:27PM
Simon - that's just stupid. So stupid, I won't explain. Enjoy your silly little argument.
Arnie| 1.8.13 @ 12:28PM
Small margin? Well, for one thing, he got more of the popular vote percentage than Reagan in 1980.
Plus, his margin is more than 35% of all presidential elections. The point. You Republicans got reamed. Plus he did something Reagan never did, he got over 51% twice.
Simon Templar| 1.8.13 @ 1:01PM
Yes, small margin. Reamed? That apparently is in the eye of the beholder and a troll like yourself that will twist anything for a little boost of your very small ego. Reagan won by landslides. Bush by small margins. The public also made their will known through voting in huge sweeps of democratic or republican congresses as Americans do not favor one party control or one party mandates. Mandates? Ridiculous. Stupid. Not factual. Polls consistently show otherwise on a host of policy and issues. A large majority do not want Obamacare, so where is the mandate?
Arnie| 1.8.13 @ 9:33PM
Mandate. He got reelected dipshit.
Plus, did it ever occur to you that part of the opposition to the Affordable Care Act actually comes from the left. Meaning that many, like me, actually wanted a single payer system, without private insurance companies sucking off the system. So in fact, the health care bill didn't go far enough for many. So the opposition coming from the right, is not more than 40-50% of the nation.
And as for the solutions of the Republicans, as in, do nothing, or only tort reform, or getting rid of Medicare etc.. These plans had support of only around 10-30% of the population. So Obamacare wins the day, because simply, it's what MOST people could agree on.
Doctor Right| 1.8.13 @ 1:40PM
No he didn't.
Reagan got 52.5% in 1980, and 53.1% in 1984.
Get your facts straight.
Purp| 1.8.13 @ 3:35PM
You're wrong, as usual ... got ur head up ur a** again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.....tion,_1980
Reagan got just over 50% of the vote in 1980!
Barely won. John Anderson took in 6% of the vote. While Carter got only 41%.
So Barack Obama stands as the ONLY Democratic President since WWII to get back to back over 51% of electorate. And he is the ONLY President to do so, besides Dwight Eisenhower to pull off that feat since WWII!
He beats Reagan into the ground. Reagan did well in 1984, when he had no competition - but Obama did well TWICE. Sure not a fluke.
Amaaaazzzing isn't it?
DRed| 1.8.13 @ 3:42PM
I wouldn't call beating your main rival by 9% in the popular vote 'barely winning". So you're all wrong.
Purp| 1.8.13 @ 6:59PM
But he said - Reagan won over 51.% of the vote twice - he did not. Only Barack Obama and Dwight Eisenhower did. That means they are/were more popular than Reagan.... Think about that one for a while.
Kinda busts your myths about Reagan to bits, doesn't it?
DRed| 1.8.13 @ 8:19PM
My myths about Reagan? No, I wouldn't say that. You said Reagan barely won in 1980. He carried 44 states and got 448 electoral college votes-that's a huge landslide.
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 4:22PM
Purp the Village Idiot
Now purpie descends into racism:
"Oh, and YOU'RE a LOSER ... can't even beat the black man... you're so awful... hahahaha (that's for your last line, you wanna dish it out, then take it)"
Can't even beat the "black man?" So you believe blacks are inferior and easy to beat.
Keep posting moron, you provide fresh material every day.
You are truly an idiot and a racist
Arnie| 1.8.13 @ 12:33PM
Does that mean that Bushy had no mandate at all through 2 terms?
(It hurts to be a Republican, doesn't it?)
Simon Templar| 1.8.13 @ 1:03PM
No, he did not and at that time, you and your useful idiots thought otherwise and did not respect his small margin mandate. Dissent was patriotic then, remember, nitwit?
I am not a republican, asshole.
Doctor Right| 1.8.13 @ 1:40PM
Not as much as it's going to hurt being a Democrat.
Purp| 1.8.13 @ 2:47PM
Hahahahaha ... does that make you feel better? - I'll bet no, now that your taxes are being raised to pay for everyone but you.
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 4:22PM
Purp the Village Idiot
Now purpie descends into racism:
"Oh, and YOU'RE a LOSER ... can't even beat the black man... you're so awful... hahahaha (that's for your last line, you wanna dish it out, then take it)"
Can't even beat the "black man?" So you believe blacks are inferior and easy to beat.
Keep posting moron, you provide fresh material every day.
You are truly an idiot and a racist
Albert Constantine Jr.| 1.8.13 @ 6:22PM
My money is on Hardcard.
Simon Templar| 1.8.13 @ 12:18PM
It is quite simple really.
We have no coherent action plan or counter defensive strategy nor do we know how to employ anything but conventional old and worn out political tactics. We ignore the essential and most critically driving element of enculturation and influence - our educational system. We allow the Left to control them and we willingly send our children to all of these institutions.
There is no vision, no actionable plans, and no attempts toward an activist agenda.
They have the activist agendas, the vision, and a coherent plan that covers every aspect of this society from our educational systems to our media to our broad culture and religious institutions.
Fight?
This fight should have taken place a long time ago.
Hell, you can not even get conservatives and all those evangelical Christians motivated to vote and show up on election day to stop all of this let alone get them to take any forms of action to slow it down or reverse the progressive agendas and cultural rot.
PolishKnight| 1.8.13 @ 12:59PM
I remember a conservative rally 20 years ago when a speaker simply said: "Stop buying leftist newspapers. Why are you supporting them with your money?" Aside from buying them for want ads or for the Thankgiving circular, I didn't read the leftist newspapers anymore or I bought conservative ones. This is why leftists seeth with anger towards Foxnews. How DARE someone publish an opinion that disagrees with the left?
Similar to education: Why blow 6 figures on an education which is mostly kicked back to leftist elites especially at a private level? Sadly, because that's where the big companies often recruit from. You know, the big companies that want lower tax rates and business friendly environments.. for themselves.
One of the cutest leftist games is to pretend that they're an oppressed minority when in reality they've won decades ago. Even during Reagan's time.
Simon Templar| 1.8.13 @ 1:10PM
You described it quite accurately. Until conservatives, republicans, these business people, the evangelicals, and all others who would normally stand against these leftist agendas wake up and realize that this is a coherent coordinated effort, we are doomed. Until they unite and begin to develop counter offenses, actionable plans, and alternatives, this will all continue, just as you have said.
PolishKnight| 1.8.13 @ 1:33PM
The challenge for the evangelicals is, to compare to Hitler again, get off the notion of never surrendering any ground even for a strategic reason. Reality: Abortion is legal. It will probably always be. Get over it. Even if they restrict it locally, that only works for poor women while the middle class can buy a $100 SpiritAir ticket to Canada. Heck, even most poor women can cough up that much money.
In the meantime, the evangelicals and chivalrists pander to unwed mothers in the hopes of discouraging abortion, which doesn't work, while generating new generations of leftist voters and entitlement classes. Conservative economics is about personal responsibility which is the healthy family unit which is almost always headed by men. If unwed mothers can escape conservative households via the welfare state then game over man.
But for now, the biggest problem appears to be that conservatives simply don't care about the biggest issue: reverse Jim Crow laws against the primary conservative demographic: white males. How can they even hope to win elections when the average leftist voter is entitled to "backstage passes" like a rockstar? When the media is full of goodies simply based upon the color of their skin or gender AND they can gripe that they're victims of racism and sexism!!! Absolutely amazing. Yet, most Republicans have done zilch about this.
When Romney ran an ad saying Obama was granting welfare waivers, the left FREAKED OUT. Remember?
Simon Templar| 1.8.13 @ 2:32PM
Evangelicals are a complicated group of people and can not be lumped into a one issue political group such as abortion. It is not only evangelicals that take issue with abortion. They are concerned about a host of issues, not just this one. In fact 51 percent of the population is now in disfavor of it and this disfavor is growing with younger voters.
You talk a lot about male rights.
Abortion and the woman's right to choose to kill unborn children without the consent and agreement of a man is the most offensive, discriminatory, and assaultive attack on men's rights that the Left has ever dreamed up and enacted. Republicans and some conservatives have abandoned every cultural and social issue not just men's rights. That is the problem. Abortion "rights" are just one of the elements of an entire strategy to destroy the perceived power and dominance of men and the family structure in western society. Abortion goes along and complements with the female bias toward rights of women to raise children or kill them, the normalcy of fatherless homes and illegitimate children, the restrictions and the bias in courts against men and their custody rights, the male bashing and slander towards men as being useless, violent, and solely responsible for all of the worlds ills.
Simon Templar| 1.8.13 @ 2:35PM
By the way, we did not lose this election by anyone's position on any social issue. We lost it because this group and other conservatives gave up and sat on their asses and did not go to the polls. The so-called base did not show up.
Purp| 1.8.13 @ 2:42PM
Maybe next time nominate a real conservative ...
PolishKnight| 1.8.13 @ 3:21PM
Simon, without quibbling over whether all evangelicals are concerned first and foremost with abortion or that only evangelicals are, I resubmit my stance that abortion prohibition (or pro-life) is not a net political winner for the reasons above.
While I agree with you regarding lack of men's rights regarding abortion, I hate to agree with the women's libbers and say that (raise the volume here) it's their body and this makes it difficult for the state to control them. With men's best and most cherished ability (earning money), the state can easily chase after their wages. This is also why many people cherish going after "the rich". Grabbing someone's money is a very easy moral and legal thing to do while trying to make people do things with their bodies requires a lot more effort. Even work prisons/concentration camps in the states are net financial losses.
The pro-life agenda isn't politically practical especially in era when conservatives are lacking voters. Cut bait and pick up more useful issues. Reverse Jim Crow against white males is as valid an issue as that which MLK railed against and got a cheap Chinese made statue on the DC mall. Fatherhood is also a worthwhile cause. They are both practical and moral. Abortion has mixed morality (forcing pregnant rape victims to give birth?) and practicality (how to make all women give birth without an armed guard 24x7?)
Simon Templar| 1.8.13 @ 7:38PM
I hate to agree with the women's libbers and say that (raise the volume here) it's their body and this makes it difficult for the state to control them.
It is never been about their body as this is a myth and a lie, it is two bodies, two separate DNA's and two persons when a pregnant woman is murdered.
Legal abortion is about the legality and normalization of genocide. The Chinese communist state, just like this one, can require forced abortion just like anything else the state can enforce and require from taxation, heath care insurance, etc. It is is short step to this as it is a public health issue as far as leftist are concerned.
There is no mixed morality of any sort. The unborn baby is not the culprit nor the offender. This is completely a man made and man created concept of stigmatization. It is a social concept or self imposed shame and viewpoint. If you can not protect the right to life of your unborn son, then what makes you think you will ever regain your rights as a man?
PolishKnight| 1.9.13 @ 10:40AM
It's funny that feminists who initally opposed murder law enforcement of fetus deaths did a double take and revealed their thinking: When SOMEONE ELSE murders a woman's fetus against her will, it's murder. When she does it, it's a personal choice. In other words, the unborn child is her property or chattel. And after then, with modern laws recently passed with conservative approval, women abandon newborn babies at the firestation as a "safe haven" (safe from women murdering their own children, that is.) If she keeps the child, she can go to the state and demand welfare if needed. She needn't have to work to support an unwanted child.
In the meantime, men are slaves to the state and many are targeted for false paternity claims and required to pay support for children that aren't theirs under the logic that SOME man has to pay (kind of like keeping slavery legal in the 1860's because someone had to pick the crops.)
All that said, I sympathize with the notion that the DNA says the baby is a different 'person' but it's still in her body. Forcing rape victims to carry "individual' babies to term is not politically popular. It killed a senatorial run last time around. There's no way that thinking will get abortion made illegal in the states, much less the world so just deal with it already. In the meantime, the left wins everywhere else.
nathan| 1.8.13 @ 3:18PM
On that basis given that the abusing Jews was legal in Germany in 1938 and at THAT moment looked to stay that way indefinitely would you based on what you said surrendered the ground of fighting back against that abuse for "strategic" reasons?
If the cause is just you don't surrender. Sorry. If more people hadn't just accepted what Hitler was doing and fought back, who knows? Again battles don't always get fought on whether you're going to win or lose, you do it, Marek Edelman in Warsaw for example, because it's simple right. I'm sorry I'm with Martin Neimollor here. If we think abortion is the taking of a real "life" without due process, then you can't sit back and let it happen. You make it a political priority. Sorry.
PolishKnight| 1.8.13 @ 3:27PM
Nathan, it's an interesting comparison (Jews in 1938 versus the unborn) and also in context of the modern era where evangelicals and Republicans routinely ignore reverse Jim Crow laws against white males that are similar to the way Jews were treated just prior to WWII.
What makes abortion different than other civil rights cases is that Jews didn't live in women's tummies including rape victims. Neither do adult white males. You can't take a Jew in a woman's tummy out of Canada over to Germany to get the "abortion" done. And heck, even if you did win and go abortion outlawed, what are you going to do to keep women from traveling? Chain them all to the stove?
nathan| 1.8.13 @ 10:24PM
Sir means of creation is irrelevant to the unalienable rights of the person growing inside that woman. If there is a 1/10,000 hell, 1/100,000 chance that life begins at conception then sorry we must err on the side of due process rights for that entity since life trumps inconvenience EVERY time. And I'm sorry just because I can't stop every murder in the country or every act of theft doesn't mean I don't pass laws against both of them. Perfection is not the criteria here.
PolishKnight| 1.9.13 @ 10:43AM
The left uses that reasoning to demand outlawing personal firearms. But sure, let's go with your justification for life beginning at conception. If it's murder or endangerment to possibly harm a fetus at day 1, then the law should allow all fertile women to be monitored continuously much like the traffic laws of the nation are enforced.
This position is unrealistic and plays into the hands of big government leftists.
Purp| 1.8.13 @ 2:51PM
The Conservative Culture of Corruption simply caught up with you guys. You don't know how to react exact to bribe and pay people off. When that didn't work, your low morality was discovered, you lost and lost Big.
It's simple - kick out the corrupters, become moral again, and maybe you'll win again.
PolishKnight| 1.8.13 @ 3:30PM
Purp, either you're a troll of laughably insincere. You know as well as any of us that the whole Democrat party is about kickbacks and special privileges for various groups rather than "inclusion" of the middle class. GE just got a big tax break from the fiscal cliff deal and the middle class got screwed. And you know it. Other than you being a troll, you're just a superfan who hopes to give a lewinsky the to the quarterback, if you're lucky. That makes you a loser even if they win. If there's nothing in it for you, and no green energy is forthcoming, etc. then you're just a loser whose only hope of importance is putting up a poster of them and gushing over it. Enjoy it. In the meantime, most of us here have lives including myself. Get a spouse. Live life a little. Move out of your mother's basement.
Purp| 1.8.13 @ 3:50PM
We are taking our country back. To a better time, when everyone had good jobs and money in their pocket.
Manufacturing and High Tech are coming back to this country bringing good paying jobs with them.
Enough of your Conservative, Neo-Conservative, Rich-Boys and Corporations first stale old policies that didn't work. You played a good game, fooled a good lot of Americans for 30 years, but the jig is up now.
Yes, Democrats have had to party with Wall Street to compete with Republicans for campaign funding, but only Republicans want to actually dismantle Unions, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Aid to Education, Obamacare - ya know, all the programs that help the people?
You LOST Big Twice. You have no ideas to help America. Your tank is empty. I win. And Big for the next 20 years.
The Tea Party is down to 8% participation, and dropping, they are a flash in the pan, thank GOD. Way to radical and stupid for most ppl. That's one reason Jim DeMint broke his neck to quit the Senate and take the job at Heritage. He knew the TP gig was up.
Keep paying attention to Fixed Corporate News Channel. Theys u best friend, huh?
All you got is to attack minorities and women as if they are the problem. We figured that trick out too and that is short-lived.
Hell, even gay marriage equality is sweeping the nation.
You've lost in the world of Big Ideas, go contemplate your navel or something. Loser.
Have a nice day!
PolishKnight| 1.9.13 @ 10:47AM
Purp, you're coming here to talk to us, remember? So show a little respect. In the meantime, as you claim conservatives "attack" (hysterical term) women and minorities, the left bashes white males even as, I often point out, they prefer to live among white males and idolize western Europe as a utopian ideal.
We both know that the obamaconomy isn't working at anything other than slushing money to some elites in the Democrat party but for most people, including even his base, it's a toilet flush. Manufacturing jobs aren't coming back because Obama and his cronies only create no-show government union jobs for party elites. He buys votes from women and minorities by promising racist and sexist preferences ahead of white males even if overall the standard of living is going down for everyone except the cronies. Including republican cronies in on the deal (to my dismay as well, but certainly doesn't help your supposed utopian ideal.)
So you're just a cheerleader for a party banner or a troll. Take your pick.
Brian Richard Allen | 1.11.13 @ 11:40AM
Fascissocialist Psychosis sufferers come but half-armed to any battle of wits -- and their defining Denial and morbid Projection "outs" them, every time.
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 4:24PM
Purp the Village Idiot
Now purpie descends into racism:
"Oh, and YOU'RE a LOSER ... can't even beat the black man... you're so awful... hahahaha (that's for your last line, you wanna dish it out, then take it)"
Can't even beat the "black man?" So you believe blacks are inferior and easy to beat.
Keep posting moron, you provide fresh material every day.
You are truly an idiot and a racist
PolishKnight| 1.9.13 @ 10:54AM
And indeed, they love to goad on white males via saying they resent being no longer "privileged" so they're losers but somehow the fact they're no longer privileged doesn't mean they deserve compassion and no longer being scapegoated to make people "equal". The "leveling the playing field" only stops after all the opposition white males are starved to death or in a concentration camp.
Socialism is a great idea. Truly. It wouldn't be so popular if it wasn't a great idea. Big government getting a lot of people to help and protect people. The problem is that this is about as safe as giving every single kid with aspergers a kalashnikov. How is giving power hungry politicians the power of life and death over people LESS scary than that? If socialists weren't engaging in racist/sexist scapegoating and/or mass murder on a regular basis, it might be usable.
Gregory | 1.8.13 @ 2:32PM
Bravo Mr. Lord. It takes great courage and character to swim against the malicious media tide, national psychosis, and the epic denial of truth. It's inspiring and heartening for me to realize I'm on your side.
You have my sincere thanks.
Hardcard| 1.8.13 @ 2:36PM
Just a reminder not to engage soros trolls or socialist cruds from zabars eventually they go away and you don't spill your coffee of whatever you are sipping. If it's inperson that's different you can slug a punk but they don't like doing the close contact thingie.
Purp| 1.8.13 @ 2:41PM
While I don't accept the troll designation - I don't go away ... you are completely wrong on that one. I'd luv you to try and slug me, I'd waste YOU. Retard.
CJW| 1.8.13 @ 4:25PM
Purp the Village Idiot
Now purpie descends into racism:
"Oh, and YOU'RE a LOSER ... can't even beat the black man... you're so awful... hahahaha (that's for your last line, you wanna dish it out, then take it)"
Can't even beat the "black man?" So you believe blacks are inferior and easy to beat.
Keep posting moron, you provide fresh material every day.
You are truly an idiot and a racist
nathan| 1.8.13 @ 3:10PM
"One" of the problems we see here, (most every day?) is what really is a "conservative"? How do we define "conservatism" today? Was Reagan really "conservative"? A good case can be made, certainly based on his domestic actions, that he wasn't. Again, we too often confuse "neocon" with "conservatives". But also, what is the real philosophical basis for being a conservative? To me it's the Founders flaws and all. I'll take Madison, Washington, to a lesser extent Jefferson over anyone today. I think the principles they established and what Madison layed out in the Bill of Rights still apply.
The problem as I see it is that both sides love the Constitution until they don't love it. Liberals like certain aspects of it but hate the Second Amendment. "Conservatives" love the Second Amendment but the Fifth Amendment? Not a lot, and you mean we really CAN'T torture people even if we think it might save AMERICAN lives? (It doesn't but like liberals and gun control "conservatives" ignore overwhelming facts on the uselessness of torture. So much alike really . . . )
So what is a "conservative" today? Really we need to answer this before the midterms. I think it's a movement in crisis I really do.
Thom| 1.8.13 @ 3:52PM
Nathan,
In your essay on what the head of the Czech government should have done rather than surrender to German demands you conveniently overlooked unassailable facts and circumstances that bear on the situation. The most egregious is that the Czech population was overwhelmingly outnumbered by the Germans without adding the Austrians on top of that. The Czech Republic was composed of at least four different ethnic groups running from West to East and not the least of which were ethnic Germans living in the Western portion of the Republic. The part that the Germans demanded initially was surrounded on three sides and easily cut off from the rest of the world meaning no one was coming to their aid. An last but not least, you left out the part where a high ranking German government official visited the head of the Czech government right before the Czechs threw open their remaining boarders and spelled out exactly what would happen if they did not. Now balance that against what the Germans did against the Poles who had three times the population and then the French.
Thom| 1.8.13 @ 3:53PM
That the Germans rode into Poland and France using Czech armaments is not lost on real students of history but neither is the fact that Chamberlain and crew appeased Hitler right from the get go and Munich was just more political theater for consumption by the masses of pacifists back in England. Chamberlain’s real crime was not in trying to negotiate with Hitler but in doing absolutely nothing to prepare for failure of that. There is no such thing as negotiating from a position of weakness. Likewise you cannot “conserve” anything from a defensive position of weakness as Republicans are doing today.
nathan| 1.8.13 @ 10:35PM
Let me ask you a question. In a similar situation would you have just laid down you weapons and surrendered? Oh would you have said, screw you, come get me? The Germans gave the ultimatum. Fine. At Bastogne with a somewhat similar I'm surrounded on three sides and may not win this fight ultimatum the answer was? NUTS? And on the Bataan penisular? They fought on when they knew they weren't going to get relieved? And again Warsaw? 39 days Marek Edelman and those people held out (longer than France by the way). Again, sooner or later we may be asked to answer the question Patrick Henry asked in that church. (Go visit it some time.) What is YOUR answer going to be? We know what Benes' answer was. We know ultimately what Marek's answer was, I absolutely know what MINE is. Care to tell us what yours is?
We forget sometimes that how you die is absolutely as important as how you live. I tell you what, I'm not going quietly to the Umschlagplatz. If you want to, for the rest of you feel free. That's what Benes did. What did it get him? Or Dolfuss? He committed suicide after the Anschlus when he should have been at the border shooting it out with the Nazis.
Thom| 1.8.13 @ 3:18PM
When the fall comes, the Ores and goblins will quickly consume everything not nailed down
and then pour from the unsustainable large Urban areas like locus when food and fuel stop
magically appearing at their local welfare distribution centers ....
Their Overseers or Oberfuhrers like DiFi and alike will find their gated communities and paid
personal security services as effective as the Libyan guards were at defending the Ambassador.
Like their betters during the French Revolution many will be consumed by that which they
have sowed and die with the disillusion in their eyes that comes from being arrogant.....
This story has played out countless times in history and the only thing that changes is the
faces on the cast of characters that dutifully perform their role despite knowing how the story
always ends ..... Suicide Pacts are like that.
Thom| 1.8.13 @ 3:19PM
It is time for those that want to survive this to adhere to BF's wisdom from the past. "We must
hang together, gentlemen ... else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." Wade Hanpton's
thoughts on what to expect when you fight superior numbers playing by the other guys rules
also applies. The last time the Republican Mgt Team ran a successful large scale offensive
operation they had 4.4 times the able bodied men, 3 times as many people in uniform, 3-5
times the resources, an unlimited number of Supreme West Point military commanders and
lost 40% more total dead with every possible material advantage possible. Unlike the
Republicans of that bygone era, our current crop is leaderless both in fact and principle. They
intend to play by the rules set before them (defensively) and will certainly lose as Hampton
would say. Even “that damn Hooker" would understand what is wrong with this picture.
Controse| 1.8.13 @ 4:12PM
The only problem with this wonderful post is the word conservative is where the word Republican should be. There is not a conservative in America that hasn't been screaming at the top of their lungs for over four years now that Obama, or whoever he is, and all his multitude of agents and enablers are a mortal threat to our constitutional republic. The Republicans don't listen and don't want to listen.
Who Knows?| 1.8.13 @ 4:49PM
Well, Mr. Lord, I don’t know about you, but it seems to me that the Anschluss has already taken place. Wake up, and smell the fish, as it rots from the head---that’s America, my friend, that stinks so much, now.
As I’ve long been saying, when it comes to POWER, the MSM long ago took control. It only is a convenient “truth” to believe an Obama and his partners in crime are the only problem.
The vast majority of Americans, especially the younger ones, have been robustly “taught”, ALREADY, by all the WORD-mongering institutions, which definitely includes visual images, etc.
Might as well talk to a fence post, because there’s just no way to avoid the coming crash---what we are experiencing, in accelerating spades, is hubris on steroids. Most Americans are so wrapped up in their own hi tech realms, and so certain that they’ve got it made, that only a huge event that can’t be missed has even a slim chance of getting them to wake up to their foolishness.
I’ve realized, myself, that it’s futile and a waste of time to pay much attention on DC politics----finally!
Besides, there are too many good books to read, and dwindling free time, as I approach lift off as my current body.
From nowhere, I freely felt the urge to read some more Hannah Arendt, whose book on thinking turned me on about ten years ago.
So, I found her tome, “The Origin of Totalitarianism”, from 1951, updated in 1966.
Who Knows?| 1.8.13 @ 4:50PM
What a dense and deep look at the political dance in Europe! So far, I’m only part way through it, but her detailed take on especially the history of Jews is eye-opening.
Mostly, though, what comes across to my eager mind is how wild the masses of people were, as they formed various groups to work out who was in POWER.
The depression didn’t just cause massive unemployment, but it brought chaos and anarchic tendencies. Law abiding citizens were wiped out, in Germany, and other places, and so the situation was ripe for the criminal takeover by a Hitler gang.
What the hell else is happening, NOW, in DC, as Obama’s gang not only is taking advantage of the economic breakdown of law and order, but also actively fostering it, as fast as they can?
Yes---the simple graph that shows federal debt growing by a trillion bucks a year, and beneath it another graph of what the recent fiddling around the edges by our little “Chamberlain-types” in DC does, tells all.
The American goose is bleeding to death, and Boehner and McConnell are applying band aides.
Mark Steyn is the only writer one needs to read, IMHO.
Enjoy the coming CHOSEN-BY-BRAINWASHED citizens wrenching explosion.
Dilbert| 1.8.13 @ 6:38PM
It seems that we need to rid ourselves of the Republicappeaser Party with a Conservative Party (no C.I.N.O.s allowed!) replacement like we did with the Whigg Party!
Martin| 1.8.13 @ 7:41PM
The problem with appeasement was that we didn't appease enough. Poland was none of our damn business, and we couldn't have defended it effectively even at the height of our power in 1815. The right course for Britain would have been to sit back and wait for America to get off its butt -- if it ever did.
Arnie| 1.8.13 @ 8:23PM
HEY DUMB REPUBTARDS. OBAMA GOT MORE THAN 51%. MORE THAN BOTH BUSH ELECTIONS, AND EVEN MORE THAN REAGAN IN 1980. GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK DUMB SKULLS.
THIS IS CALLED REALITY. QUIT HUMPING YOUR ALTERNATIVE FOX NEWS DIMENSION.
Arnie| 1.8.13 @ 8:45PM
This should educate a few of you.
And it doesn't even mention the bloated and wasteful military budget.
http://www.economist.com/blogs.....bject_map={"10200242146240178":428136927255427}&action;_type_map={"10200242146240178":"og.likes"}&action;_ref_map={"10200242146240178":"scn\/fb_ec\/its_not_them_its_you"}
GobBluthe| 1.8.13 @ 9:21PM
What the left ultimately seeks is repeal of the American Revolution.
Brian Richard Allen | 1.11.13 @ 11:33AM
.... What the left ultimately seeks is repeal of the American War of Independence ....
And what they are likely calling down upon themselves is The Second American War of Independence.
The Tree of Liberty from time-to-time thirsting for its natural manure, the blood of tyrants and of patriots.
nathan| 1.8.13 @ 10:45PM
All today's exchanges prove is that we do have a real problem. If we can't agree on what happened in the past, draw meaningful lessons from it, we are in deep trouble. But sorry it does go deeper than that. I ask you all again and this is important, what is a conservative? Tell me what you all think it means. I told you what I think it means. I take an uncompromising view on individual rights and I don't bloody care about anyone's good intentions. Actions define who we are not why we act and if our actions are evil (IE we torture someone) then we are evil no matter why we do it.
The single biggest threat to this country and has been in the post war period wasn't the borg like communists (they were a danger but not THE danger) or the monolithic jihadists (no borg there either) but the New Deal/Great Society programs which no republican president or republican congress has been willing to meaningfully address when they could have done so. Throw in a growing disregard for human rights on both sides ("conservatives" fully supported torture and indefinite detention and Abu Ghraib and the democracy jihad) and basically I think it may be too late folks. But if we're going to turn it around, the midterms are it.
WaffenSS| 1.8.13 @ 10:52PM
It will be an honor to run Arnie through the
chimney. To those that understand no explanation is necessary. Burn, Baby, Burn. I favour to use the liberal strategy of the 70'; to burn the system out. America is gone. It's time to prepare for the collapse that's coming. What is going on is no different than the housing bubble of a few years ago. Anybody with a brain(the non kool-aid drinkers) knew that a dog house was not worth a half a million dollars. As today, the American zombie dollar is and will continue to be worthless. The bubble popping of the dollar is just a matter of time.
So, support the wanker in the white house, hasten his policies, give the liberal commie shits all the incouragement you can muster. Then when it becomes available, identify them and push them into the ocean. Burn, Baby, Burn! By any means necessary.
Brian Richard Allen | 1.11.13 @ 11:29AM
.... No one — to be abundantly clear — is comparing President Obama to Adolf Hitler ....
Well, not to the 1945 Adolf, it's true.
But Herr Hitler of 1928 compares well.
As well as does the 1929 devolution of their fellow pathologically-narcissistic "modified" Marxist/Fascist: Benito Mussolini!