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Another Perspective
Abortion and Newtown: The Culture of Violence
Mass shootings on rise since Roe v. Wade: Planned Parenthood as the NRA of Abortion?
By Jeffrey Lord
(Page 6 of 7)
And so it was with Adam Lanza on Friday.
Shooting his mother in the face, then systematically killing 20 innocent children, not to mention the other adults, Adam Lanza had no ability to distinguish between good and evil and the basic value of human life.
Ronald Reagan was right back then. As was Pope John Paul II.
And as events from State Senator Obama’s long-ago statements on the Illinois Born Alive Act to the shootings at Newtown and all these horrific events that have repeatedly occurred since the advent of Roe v. Wade show… Reagan and the Pope would be even more right today.
What is unfolding in Newtown at this very moment is as heartrending as it is chilling.
One cannot possibly fathom the grief.
Nor can one possibly imagine what must run through the minds of those who, as the events of Newtown recede into the rear-view mirror of time, silently realize that the so-called “pro-choice” movement has in fact resulted — yet again…and again and again and again — in a culture of violence that engulfed yet another troubled young mind and heart and leading him to his own “pro-choice” action.
There was another irony in that Newtown ceremony with the president. It was opened by the pastor of the Newtown Congregational Church, a member of the larger United Church of Christ denomination. Which happens to be my own denomination. The UCC says this on its website:
The United Church of Christ is one of the founding faith groups of the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, formed in 1973 as the Religious Coalition for Abortion Rights.
One has to ask when my church will begin to question itself on the connection between its stance on abortion — and the culture of violence that has taken so many lives in Newtown.
The other night Fox’s Geraldo Rivera said “imagine the children screaming.”
In 1984 a documentary called The Silent Scream was produced. Hosted by an obstetrician named Bernard Nathanson, a chastened founder of the National Abortion Rights Action League, the film was a graphic video of a baby being aborted and silently “screaming” as it the abortion “provider” went about the task needed to “dismember, crush, and destroy” the baby.
A screaming child indeed.
When Ronald Reagan was talking about values in 1983, he did not hesitate to mention the disturbing disrespect for human life he believed was flowing from Roe v. Wade.
Decades later, Barack Obama is talking about values. Will he discuss abortion?
About the Author
Jeffrey Lord is a former Reagan White House political director and author. He writes from Pennsylvania at jlpa1@aol.com.
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drudge ette obama| 12.18.12 @ 6:16AM
Let's not forget King Samir Shabazz, Natoal Field Marshall of the New Black Panther Party, who promised to go ito nurseries and kill white babies and murder white people in the street.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breit.....ople-Alive
drudge ette obama| 12.18.12 @ 6:17AM
http://www.breitbart.com/Breit.....ople-Alive
Aristocat| 12.18.12 @ 7:10AM
Great article by Mr. Lord and very courageous to speak the truth....Obama and the Democrats have the blood of 60 million babies on their hands...
"Foul deeds must rise, though all the world o'erwhelm them, to men's eyes." Hamlet
drudge ette obama| 12.18.12 @ 7:12AM
There is a big difference between aborted babies and the beautiful children murdered in Newtown - the Newtown children were wanted.
Appleby| 12.18.12 @ 7:16AM
Millions of us who have no children would gladly adopt these "unwanted" babies if only their mothers hadn't murdered them. Maybe before signing your baby's death warrant, you ought to ask if anybody out there wants her.
Remember: abortion does not UNDO pregnancy. Abortion makes you the mother of a dead baby.
RussellCrawford | 12.18.12 @ 7:28AM
There are 150 million needing adoption right this instant in Africa. Go adopt them before they die.
http://www.facebook.com/NaturalAbortionLaw#!/photo.php?fbid=432906590109455&set=pb.227923367274446.-2207520000.1355832408&type=3&theater;
You have a choice, you may save born children or you may kill them and attempt to resurrect from the dead the fetus you worship.
Buck Ofama| 12.18.12 @ 12:36PM
We have too many niggers already.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 6:25PM
As you can see, this is not me.
Someone has hijacked my name.
Occam's Tool| 12.18.12 @ 1:08PM
I've adopted my two. The UN makes it very difficult to adopt overseas. Check out the Hague treaty.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 6:24PM
These are not me.
Somebody has high jacked my name.
Joellen| 12.18.12 @ 7:44AM
Drudge ette obama, your cold, and yes evil response, "there is a big difference between aborted babies and the beautiful children murdered in Newtown - the Newtown children were wanted", is testimony to Mr. Lord's and most responses to his column, of why we have devolved into such inhuman people.
Your sentence should be shared over and over so that people can finally grasp that there is evil in the world. Lesson on evil: "Read what drudge ette obama writes. This sentence is the epitomy of what evil represents." Lesson over.
I pray drudge ette obama, that you actually read what you wrote, and that the HOLY SPIRIT enters your soul and reveals to you, the lie that you have accepted and perpetuated, that aborted children are not wanted.
These beautiful babies are wanted, evil just denied them, like the beautiful children in Newtown, from living the life that GOD blessed them with.
GOD help you and those who live in darkness who cannot understand that ALL LIFE IS PRECIOUS and not to be brutally taken, whether in the womb or at a school or mall, but of the nature death that GOD had planned for that soul to transsend to.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 6:25PM
As you can see, this is not me.
Someone has hijacked my name.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 8:46AM
On average, the Sacrement of Liberal Church of PISS CHRIST accounts for 1.5 Million Murdered Unborn Babies a year. That comes out to be 4,110 a Day. And that is the Numerical Equivilent of 2,055 Newtowns a Day. 1.35 (911s) a Day.
Every 4 Years, there's a Silent Holocaust in this Country. A Mass Extermination Performed by Men and Women who have no Souls, and Fought For, IN THE STREETS, by those who Claim sole posession of words like Compassion, Diversity, and Inclusiveness.
Newtown has NOTHING to do with Children, and everything to do with the Liberal Church of PISS CHRIST. You see........it's not that they care about Children losing their lives. They don't. Their PISS CHRIST RELIGION is awash in the Blood of Innocents. It's HOW it happened. It happened with a GUN.
While Infanticide inside the Womb is the Sacrement of the Left's Religion? The Elimination of the Second Amendment from the minds of Men, is The Holy Grail. After all......it's so much easier to Proselytize when YOU have all the Guns.
Don't you agree?
It's like Islam for Gays, Lesbians, Transgenders, Whores, Alcoholics and Drug Addicts.
Well worth the 1.5 Million Martyrs a year.
Al Brooks, bleedingheartlib | 12.18.12 @ 4:35PM
Abortion is a tiny issue AS is inflating to sell mags.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 6:26PM
Actually, although that was not me?
It fit.
Al Brooks, BleedingHeartlib | 12.18.12 @ 6:39PM
Because you are both violent, and thus no one could believe for long that either of you are sincerely opposed to abortion for any reason other than use as a wedge issue.
You are both thugs.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 12.18.12 @ 7:58PM
I was going to say, on the Alan Brooks remark, he came close.
spike59| 12.19.12 @ 6:28AM
Al Brooks, bleedingheartlib | 12.18.12 @ 4:35PM
Abortion is a tiny issue AS is inflating to sell mags.
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in 1975, the number of abortions performed annually in the US broke the 1 MILLION mark, and has remained above 1 MILLION every year since then....
'tiny issue?'
moron
richard611| 12.29.12 @ 9:42PM
yea but despite Shabazz sounding like someone with overinflated murderous ego, he does not act out his rhetoric. WHY? because that is precisely it Shabazz is just fountain of hyperbole--not actually the sort of psychopath that kills 20 children. Yet he can obviously stir up fear in a white audience.
Jack in Wi| 12.18.12 @ 6:27AM
To the liberals abortion is a sacrament. They cannot see the 70 million murdered since Roe vs. Wade as anything but human trash to be flushed away. It is the most important issue facing this country. Shame on the Republicans for not making more reasoned arguments like Jeff Lord does here. For 7 straight elections the Republicans have run candidates or the Presidency who refuse to adresss this issue except in the most superficial ways. Romney was the worst of the bunch. Obama should have been called out about his love of abortion, even partial birth abortion, and killing children who happpen to survive an abortion. Obama himself was saved from abortion by his unmarried, teen age, mother at a time when it would have been a ot easier to abort a multi-racial child then to raise him.
If you don't care about the most innocent and helpless how can you care about anyone else in this increasingly untilitarian society? Obama's crocodile tears make any honest person want to puke.
RussellCrawford | 12.18.12 @ 7:30AM
There has been and increase in births since Roe, not a decrease. Your whole argument fails. In fact there are 6 scientific laws that show abortion saves life, it does not cause death. http://www.naturalabortionlaws.com
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 1:20PM
Ladies and Gentlemen. I give you the GENIUS, that is Russell Headuphisass.
"In fact there are 6 Scientific Laws that show Abortion saves lives, it does not cause death."
What a Fckng Waste of a Human Being.
1.5 MILLION Unborn Babies are MURDERED inside, and OUTSIDE their Mother's Wombs every year.
But, Abortion doesn't cause Death, according to Russell Goerbels.
If he was here, where I am?
I'd Abort HIM, and see how well his 6 Scientific Laws hold up.
What a Puke.
Engle| 12.18.12 @ 2:12PM
A fetus is NOT a child.
For Mr. Lord to equate abortion with the massacre of school children is GROTESQUE.
Repeat after me: A fetus is NOT a child.
Engle| 12.18.12 @ 2:16PM
Why I am attempting to make a point on a thread with filthy, perverted comments coming from the likes of TLP, I don't know.
Anyway, you losers can continue with your nonsense.
The American citizenry expressed their choice when they overwhelmingly elected Obama.
Keep on braying, asses.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 3:11PM
You might wanna go look in the mirror and ask yourself how you ever got so Fckd Up.
Seriously.
What happened to you to make you such a Worthless Piece of Sh*t?
Were you Molested?
Are you still being Molested?
Do you want to be Molested?
Are you Molesting little kids?
Again: What a Worthless Piece of Sh*t.
TPL| 12.18.12 @ 8:45PM
Look Ma. I can say fucked up and shit and talk about molesting and things like that.
Stkman| 12.18.12 @ 3:16PM
Engle,
are you refering to a human fetus, a cat fetus? Exactly what kind of fetus are you refering to? Also, are we not all entitled to the right to life, lberty and the pursuit of happiness? What about all of us being "created" equally? How about these are all un-inalienable rights given by God and that we are all created by him?
You see sir, what I've listed above, whether you and your liberal friends like it, is the law of the land and no you or Congress has the right to deny anyone of those rights. They are not yours to take away.
A fetus indeed!
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 6:27PM
Funny Stuff.
Not me, but funny nonetheless.
Jack in Wi| 12.18.12 @ 3:22PM
Fetus is the Latin word for baby. A child in the womb is the most innocent of human beings. Repeat again a Fetus is a baby, and more human then you are.
Engle| 12.18.12 @ 3:50PM
You right-wingers have brought ruin to the Republican Party. Keep on braying like jackasses, and the Democrats will be in power for eternity.
chuck| 12.18.12 @ 3:58PM
Democrats......party of "save the trees, and kill the children".
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 4:00PM
What do you care if the Democrats stay in power?
You're one of them.
LIFE, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.
What part of that does your FCKD UP Head, not understand?
I'm guessing: All of it.
spike59| 12.20.12 @ 5:56AM
not eternity, actually...but i understand your confusion; a day under Democrat 'power' can SEEM like an eternity...much like Hell
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 3:53PM
When you're right, Jack.
You're right.
Well done.
You just gotta let to of the whole Jew Thing.
chuck| 12.18.12 @ 4:00PM
"You just gotta let to of the whole Jew Thing."
That's like telling shit it needs to get rid of its stink.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 4:48PM
Agreed.
It was just a shot in the dark.
Occam's Tool| 12.18.12 @ 5:18PM
I despise agreeing with Jack, but why is it OK to kill a baby with a partial birth abortion if the mom desires to do this whereas one can be sued for malpractice if the baby is born deformed? Hmm?
A fetus is a baby. Sorry. And it certainly is more human than Engle and Crawford.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:38PM
Think: Broken Clock, Occam.
Occam's Tool| 12.20.12 @ 4:07PM
Indeed, my friend, indeed. Fortunately, you run with Rolex smoothness and golden hue.
CJW| 12.18.12 @ 5:55PM
If you kill an unborn child, except for an abortion, it is a crime of Homicide of an Unborn Child. And, the highest med malpractice awards are usually for babies born with serious defects caused by negligence during birth.
R Martin| 12.18.12 @ 4:04PM
You're playing with semantics, Engle. Semantics. Have you seen a sonnagram in the early days of a human pregnancy? Whatever you choose to call it, there is life in that womb. If you destroy it, you've taken a life. The criminal statutes have a word for that act, so does the bible. Is that what you condone, Engle? Murder?
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:02PM
He doesn't care about FACTS.
He only cares about Liberal Dogma.
Guys, like him, only "Care" when it's Their Door that's being kicked in, in the middle of the night.
They only "Care" when it's Too Late.
Fck Him, and his Whore Mother, who gave birth to a Piece of Sh*t, like him.
May they BOTH burn in Hell.
Kingofthenet| 12.18.12 @ 5:05PM
THIS is why we need Trans-vaginal ultrasounds!
CJW| 12.18.12 @ 5:52PM
A fetus us an unborn child, what do think it is?
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 6:29PM
Not me.
I've got all day.
TPL| 12.18.12 @ 8:47PM
I've got all day to spew my ugly right-wing vomit.
spike59| 12.19.12 @ 6:30AM
In fact there are 6 scientific laws that show abortion saves life, it does not cause death
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how F###ing STUPID are you? EVERY abortion-EVERY one of them, causes death!
Darin| 12.18.12 @ 6:41AM
The problem isn't guns. For every incident like Newtown, there are hundreds where people are able to defend themselves (using a gun) against those who would do them harm. The problem is evil and that we have embraced and glorified it. The murder in Newtown is no different than the murder of the unborn, the murder of the elderly, or the murder of the disabled (Terri Schiavo).
FUCKtheNRA| 12.18.12 @ 6:46AM
Of course all you right wingers make the wrong conclusions about this tragedy...like with everything else.
You want to blame "violence" like abortion, but I hardly think a women getting rid of an UNBORN fetus a few weeks into her pregnancy is like say perhaps....raging war in Iraq or Palestine, and having bombs, machine guns, daisy cutters, and grenades cut children that are ALIVE to pieces.
Think about it. You guys on the right promote violence of the living all the time.
Jack in Wi| 12.18.12 @ 7:04AM
You love abortion and some wrong thinking far rightests love war. Well you are both wrong. Obama loves abortion and war. He is wrong on both counts. The violent end of baby in womb has happened 60 million times in this country. That is far more then were killed in all the wars in this country's history. People like Bush Cheney and McCain all pretended to be pro-life. but they loved war far more then life. 3000 Americans were killed on 9/11. More then that are exterminated everyday in this country, by abortion. They have been replaced by 60 million mostly 3rd world immigrants. Somebody has to do the work for an increasingly elderly and frail native population.
FUCKtheNRA| 12.18.12 @ 7:27AM
So you think because abortions happen, that caused kids to be shot by a 20 year old with a large clip, semi automatic rifle? And that he thought, "well, abortions happen"
See, this is the difference you guys can't understand. Most people don't consider an abortion at say, 3 months, a killing. I mean, you have to admit, that fetus is not a developed human being, right? It's like saying a seed that has cracked open is a tree. Yes, of course it has the possibility to be a tree, but it is still not a tree.
Otherwise, I'm glad to see that you are anti-war. Thank you. And yes, Obama has waged too much war also.
Al Adab| 12.18.12 @ 12:42PM
One cannot reason with such as these. It is a matter of Faith to them that some of their choosing are non-human. As the definition expands to include the elderly, the handicapped, the mentally deficient and so on, it is but a small step to the gas chamber.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 1:22PM
Indeed.
They came for the Unborn, and I said nothing...........
Al Adab| 12.18.12 @ 1:27PM
I weep.
Occam's Tool| 12.18.12 @ 1:08PM
Yeah, I have a real problem with Europeans selling Islamic savages weapons used to behead 3 month old Israeli babies, I surely do.
Kingofthenet| 12.18.12 @ 5:07PM
Real shame that, they should just blow them up with Hellfire Missiles like the Israelis do.
spike59| 12.20.12 @ 5:59AM
Real shame that, they should just blow people up with drones like the Obamessiah does.
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there, fixed it for ya
Stkman| 12.18.12 @ 3:17PM
What kind of fetus are you refering to? Please be specific, is it a cat fetus? A dog fetus perhaps? An elephant maybe?
FUCKtheNRA| 12.18.12 @ 6:56AM
Plus, many women have miscarriages too. Whether it is their body or mind telling themselves that they are not ready for a baby, what is the difference? Is that like manslaughter?Are you going to put women in jail for a miscarriage or abortion?
Please, this shooting in Conn. has nothing to do with abortion. It has everything to do with the fact that in American society highly deadly weapons are ubiquitious and easily accessable. And the mental health system, or lack thereof, has huge gaping holes in it.
It just goes to show you the priority of Americans through the years. Trillions spent on military adventures, no national health system, and if you want to get a high powered semi automatic.....NO PROBLEM.
Darin| 12.18.12 @ 7:09AM
Since you seem to be big on gun control laws, answer this question. What law or regulation has a criminal ever obeyed when that law or regulation was contrary to the criminal act they planned to commit?
FUCKtheNRA| 12.18.12 @ 7:20AM
Of course laws can't prevent every crime, but they can deter the behavior of lots of people. I mean, if you contend that laws don't work, what is the puropse of ANY LAW? Do you want to get rid of a law based society?
Darin| 12.18.12 @ 12:44PM
By your own words, gun control laws do not work ("laws can't prevent every crime"). The remainder of your post is pointless.
Stkman| 12.18.12 @ 3:25PM
The purpose of law is so those with moral character can discern ourselves from those who do not have moral character. Then there is the penalty of law which is a different matter.
So here's the deal, laws only work for those with moral character.
There are lots of things that are legal to do, but you wouldn't do because you care about your moral standing. Then there are those who have a low or no moral character and could care less about their moral standiong, like most liberals. Hopmosexuality is okay, same sex marriage, pornogtraphy, associating with hollywood, voting two or more times in the same elction and so on. Republicans aren't innocent either. Laying off Americans to hire cheap overseas labor for example.
spike59| 12.20.12 @ 6:01AM
Of course laws can't prevent every crime, but they can deter the behavior of lots of people.
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NYC, Detroit, Washington, DC, and Chicago have some of the most restrictive gun laws out there...if gun laws worked, why are they among the most dangerous cities on the planet?
Occam's Tool| 12.20.12 @ 4:10PM
The Connecticut fellow STOLE his mom's guns, killed her with them, and then went to the school. How the hell would more gun control have stopped that?
drudge ette obama| 12.18.12 @ 7:15AM
Sir, I see in your comments that you share many of the antisocial personality traits of the Newtown killer. Harness your anger...somehow...before we read about you in the news and have the same conversation we are having now again
drudge ette obama| 12.18.12 @ 7:15AM
Sir, I see in your comments that you share many of the antisocial personality traits of the Newtown killer. Harness your anger...somehow...before we read about you in the news and have the same conversation we are having now again
drudge ette obama| 12.18.12 @ 7:15AM
Sir, I see in your comments that you share many of the antisocial personality traits of the Newtown killer. Harness your anger...somehow...before we read about you in the news and have the same conversation we are having now again
Butch| 12.18.12 @ 2:55PM
" . . . put women in jail for a miscarriage or abortion." Equating the two, are we? Such a clever polemicist; no one will ever catch on.
FUCKtheNRA| 12.18.12 @ 7:02AM
And just to be clear, I am biased. I live in Europe in a country that never attacked another country. It regulates guns, and has national health care for everybody. It's great. It's so peaceful and humane here, and the people aren't so aggressive like Americans. Nobody worries about their kids being shot up...and if the kids were...you wouldn't worry about the medical bills either.
Darin| 12.18.12 @ 7:07AM
If your country is so great, why are you bothering to read and comment on a site called "American Spectator"?
FUCKtheNRA| 12.18.12 @ 7:18AM
I read stuff about politics from lots of countries. Maybe you should do the same.
Darin| 12.18.12 @ 12:48PM
I not only read about other countries, I travel there.
Occam's Tool| 12.18.12 @ 5:20PM
So have I. That's why I stay home now. Agree, Darin. NRA is a limpwrist.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 1:31PM
What a surprise.
Tough Guy's a limp wristed, Androgynous, European Homo, who likes to be led around by his balls by some nameless, faceless, DICKLESS, European Sissyboy Government Beurocrats.
I almost look forward to Muslims separating your Stupid Heads from your Effeminate Bodies, after they Rape You.
At least you'll have a smile on your face, as they slice it off your shoulders.
Butch| 12.18.12 @ 2:58PM
Have you noticed you never see this bird on the same thread as Purp? Sounds just like him.
Purp| 12.18.12 @ 10:31PM
You just didn't read far enough Chuckles. Really get to you, huh?
Is that because you can't argue a point you don't why you believe?
TPL| 12.18.12 @ 8:48PM
homo, homo, homo, homo, homo, homo,
How I love the sound of homo. I say it at least fifty times a day.
spike59| 12.20.12 @ 6:03AM
maybe you should tend to your OWN business, and leave our business to US.
there's a reason for the term "Eurotrash"...people like you
Jack in Wi| 12.18.12 @ 7:18AM
Baloney: Europe is dying by it's own hand. It has killed itself by aborting, contracepting, and homosexualizing it's future. The 2nd amendment is on the books here, because we fear the government far more then we fear each other. Governments have killed 200 million in the last century alone. We have far more to fear from the government which has given us people like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Mugabe etc. As for your so called free healthcare it is all actuarilly bankrupt. You have not enough young people to support your social security systems. You are as bankrupt or more bankrupt then we are. Most of the world does not have such medical care and those that do cannot support it much longer. america had the best healthcare in the world for all, including the poor, until we let the government bureaucrats ruin it. There is no such thing as a free lunch or free medicine. Someone has to pay.
FUCKtheNRA| 12.18.12 @ 7:38AM
"america had the best healthcare in the world for all, including the poor"
This is factually not true. In fact, it's hilarious. America simply has the best healthcare for people with lots of money. That's it. You might actually want to talk to medical professionals, patients, and academics that have experience with both systems before you make an absurd statement like that.
As for Europe, it does have a demographic problem and it will be a challenge to maintain the safety net. But I like the set of values that most of the people have here, and that makes me feel good about the future here. The problems you refer to are mostly in southern Europe. Northern Europe is doing quite fine actually. But remember, part of the reason the budgets are blown is that European leaders actually lowered taxes in recent decades, so we didn't have enough revenue.
Occam's Tool| 12.18.12 @ 12:56PM
As it so happens, Mr. NRA, I have. Actually, I have been a Senior Medical Consultant in an NHS in New Zealand and a physician and Medical Director in the USA.
You sir, are wrong. Eliminate deaths from babies no one else would try to save and from Mexican citizen infants who do not get prenatal care here, eliminate deaths from firearms and traffic accidents (Copenhagen, for example, has the traffic density of Decatur, AL), and actually concentrate on people the medical system can TREAT, and we do better than Europe.
Sorry. You're a Peon.
Occam's Tool| 12.20.12 @ 4:39PM
Quite literal on the Copenhagen=Decatur AL comments, by the way. I looked up the number of cars registered in the Decatur metro area and looked up the traffic venue in Copenhagen with the greatest number of vehicles going through it each day. Do that sometime.
I don't want to live like a You're a Peon. And, by the way, I think the world of TLP.
Occam's Tool| 12.18.12 @ 1:06PM
Your demographic crisis is going to kill you. I'm glad you like their values of leeching off the US, not having kids, and being immature jackasses. Once Europe meant literature, great art, great science, great culture. Now it's the Eurovision song contest and self absorbed ignorant bastards (my sister has Danish Citizenship) who beg for the US to protect them at US taxpayer expense, when they are not having things explode due to their entitled Islamic population or getting drunk off their asses.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 1:42PM
Northern Europe is doing is doing just fine.
Really? Who?
The French are about to chase all of their Productive People to Brussels. The English Capitol is affectionately know as Londanistan. Most Northern European Countries have NO GO ZONES, full of African Immigrants, where even the POLICE are afraid to go at night. Spain and Portugal are Economic Basketcases. Scandavia is the Alcoholic Capitol of the world. You need RUSSIA for your Oil and Natural Gas. Except for the Germans, none of you Homos make ANYTHING, that anybody wants to buy. And your Women are a Hygienists worst nightmare.
You'll all be on your Prayer Rugs in 50 Years.
You can count on it.
TPL| 12.18.12 @ 8:49PM
homo, homo, homo
There. I've used it again. Love the sound of it.
chuck| 12.18.12 @ 4:15PM
" America simply has the best healthcare for people with lots of money."
While I hate responding to Jackass, Euroweinie dumbasses, I really have to this time.
This past February, I severely cut my wrist, severing tendons, arteries, and nerves. I don't have health insurance, as the economic difficulties of the past few years have left me with less income, and no money after paying for the basics. Shit happens.
The hospital treated me, the hand surgeon was excellent, repairing 9 tendons, the cut artery, and the ulna nerve. I have nearly full use of the hand, and most of the feeling has returned to the lower palm, ring finger, and pinkie. The care was excellent, I certainly am not rich, but they did a damned fine job of taking care of me. I am making monthly payment to the hospital, surgeon, and other providers.
Why am I telling you this? Because you are an idiot, and I'm tired of people saying you have to be rich to obtain good health care.
So for you, F the NRA: STFU about things you have no knowledge about.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:05PM
That would be EVERYTHING.
Occam's Tool| 12.18.12 @ 5:20PM
Chuck: G-d Bless You sir, and heal well.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 6:30PM
He's really funny.
TPL| 12.18.12 @ 8:50PM
Funny as in "Jeffery Lord belongs in the Funny Farm."
chuck| 12.18.12 @ 6:50PM
OT,
Thanks, and God has certainly blessed me. I learned a lot that day, and in the days that followed. I had many people praying for me, and I know that prayer helps. I know He was there with me, and that everything would be okay, as long as I had faith in Him.
My doctor was great, and my arm is healing well. I use my hands to make a living (I'm a carpenter/contractor), and I am blessed to be able to do everything I could before the accident.
Occam's Tool| 12.20.12 @ 4:18PM
That is very, very good, Chuck. I am very genuinely happy for you, and thankful for your writings, as well.
My life is a tremendous blessing, as well. G-d put his hand on me and prevented me from working in Fort Hood for a reason, I think.
Purp| 12.18.12 @ 10:35PM
Go back and read some history Jack - you are spouting ridiculous misinformation about the 2nd Amendment (you've fallen for the Conservadum point of view, and you should read why the 2nd Amendment was created - in the Founders own words, not Fixed News or Rush Loudmouth)
You're wrong about healthcare, but you've fallen for that propaganda too.
And who is interested in you believing this crap? The people who sell guns and the people who sell drugs, medical equipment and treat healthcare as a profit center.
Follow the money and you'll know you're being fed crap so somebody else makes more money!
Skippy| 12.19.12 @ 6:37PM
Read it as the Founders wrote it, or as MSLSD has interpreted it?
The term "well regulated" refers to the ability of the militiaman to load, maintain and fire his weapon, not to some nebulous Big Govt regulation.
If you really want to find all the guns in America, ban them.
They will be everywhere, all the time, on everyone.
You sure that's what you want?
Jeff| 12.18.12 @ 11:59AM
One suspects you live in a “country in Europe” that had its hide saved twice by America in the 20th Century and was tightly protected by America throughout the Cold War.
Occam's Tool| 12.20.12 @ 4:19PM
Yes, Yes, Yes, Jeff!!
Stkman| 12.18.12 @ 3:28PM
So you live in Europe and are free to do pretty much as you please. Then you shoiuld thank us agressive Americans for it you history flunkee. The only reason we are agressive is because you Europeans will not stand up to EVIL. The last two world wars started in Europe. We Americans helped put an end to the first one and did put an end to theAmericans you would be speaking eith German or Russian right now and you wouldn't even have an internet to use. Try reading a history book sometime.
Occam's Tool| 12.20.12 @ 4:16PM
So, you live in a country that stayed neutral in WWII and let the Nazis roll.
I lived in a place with no historical significance for a year. It is the efforts of American soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines, their blood, toil, tears, sweat, and pain, that allow you to be a worthless You're a Peon gutless mewling scumbag.
By the way, my sister is a Danish citizen and I was a New Zealand Permanent resident. I know what it's like to be in a country that attacks no one, or one that is so far removed that affairs in Fiji are major National Security issues.
Quite frankly, you are irrelevant to world affairs. You bear no responsibility, contribute nothing, and defend no one's freedom, not even your own. You are, in short, a perfect example of a "peanut gallery."
I spend my days trying to stabilize highly potentially violent people so that they can be safe to rejoin society and that society can be safe from them. Good bye, little man.
drudge ette obama| 12.18.12 @ 7:15AM
May I ask what your profession is?
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 1:43PM
He's an @sshole, by trade.
Can't you tell?
Appleby| 12.18.12 @ 7:18AM
Could somebody please delete this obscene new poster? My opinion is that one reason the murder rate is increasing is the increasing coarseness of the men aged 18-30 who are committing most of these crimes.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 12.18.12 @ 7:54AM
Having seen your remarks on this demographic elsewhere on a different thread as well as here. While it is generally accurate (I would expand it 15-34) that this is the cohort where most crimes are committed, you will also find if you look at our casualties in wartime, or who is awarded for valor under these circumstance, that this age group bears the brunt there, as well.
It is the responsibility of the Grown-ups to see that the succeeding generation is properly schooled in how to behave properly. Too many in the previous generation or two have abdicated this responsibility for an adolescence which extends to at least age 50, and as a result, a larger margin of less civilized young men and women are emerging behind us, in large part because of what we of the Baby Boom generation failed to accomplish sufficiently (and/ or what too many set out to dismantle or destroy).
CJW| 12.18.12 @ 12:17PM
Russell is trying to hype his webpage by posting stupid comments so you look at his page. Then he can report X number of hits and try to get some advertisers. Hustle for money, ignore it.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 12.18.12 @ 4:11PM
Edward or Ed White is reincarnated as Engle today.
Engle| 12.18.12 @ 3:54PM
Appleby,
You must be referring to TLP. No one is more obscene than he.
But TLP is an old poster, isn't he. One thing for sure, he has no life. All he can do with his meaningless days is post one vicious remark after another.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:13PM
Are you finished, Dumbass?
And, what a surprise.
You got EVERYTHING about me Wrong, like everything else you scribble from your keyboard.
You wish you had my life.
Now, go get your Lotion and your Kiddie Porn, and settle in for another night, like all of the nights that make up your Miserable Life.
Death is too good for you.
I hope you live Forever.
Only that, will provide the Punishment that you so justly Deserve.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:42PM
That was not me.
TPL| 12.18.12 @ 8:43PM
It sounds like your style--vulgar and adolescent.
TPL| 12.18.12 @ 8:53PM
Kiddie porn is one of my obsessions. I mention it often in my posts.
TLP
RussellCrawford | 12.18.12 @ 7:20AM
The problem with your argument is that 6 scientific laws show that abortion saves life, it does not cause death. Before Roe, the number of births was dropping and after Roe the number of births increased. http://www.facebook.com/NaturalAbortionLaw#!/photo.php?fbid=433640433369404&set=pb.227923367274446.-2207520000.1355832632&type=3&theater;
There has been a net increase in life, not millions of deaths. Pretty much, everything you have said is disproved by that one fact alone.
Regardless, the idea that abortion caused the shooting is simply a rant, not a fact.
Each pro lifer and conservative has a choice. Conservatives may choose to save born babies, children and adults or they may let them die in an effort to resurrect from the dead a fetus that cannot be proved to be alive or even human. Until the DNA of the genotype expresses the correct phenotype, one cannot prove that the product of conception is alive or human.
http://www.naturalabortionlaws.com
Buck Ofama| 12.18.12 @ 12:37PM
Gee, if it's on FAKEbook, it must be true!
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:42PM
That was not me.
Simon Templar| 12.18.12 @ 1:27PM
"Resurrect from the dead the fetus you worship."
"abortion saves lives."
You are also exactly what the author is talking about.
First, you are one sick liberal bastard. Emphasis on liberal. Your statements are typical of most liberals and reveals the basic hypocrisy and twisted thinking of liberals. Americans really need to take notice of this as the basic sickness that grips our society.
spike59| 12.20.12 @ 6:06AM
dumbass, EVERY abortion causes at least ONE death...that's kinda the 'point' of an abortion...did you skip biology class?????
Albert Constantine Jr.| 12.18.12 @ 7:37AM
I see the abortion lobby's trolls are mobilizing to flood the site early this morning.
Engle| 12.18.12 @ 2:18PM
A fetus is NOT a child. A fetus is NOT a baby.
Engle| 12.18.12 @ 2:19PM
You can tell by the expression on Jeffrey Lord's face that he has mental problems.
Butch| 12.18.12 @ 3:06PM
First of all, do you always reply to yourself? You appear to. I had an OB/GYN tell me one time that he had never once heard a woman he was treating call her baby a "fetus." To you, the difference is being wanted or not. Well, the CT shooter didn't want those children, either. Jeff Lord is right, as always.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:16PM
His replying to himself, come from a lifetime of NO FRIENDS.
Jeff| 12.18.12 @ 2:56PM
Right.
It's a cigar? A rabbit?
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:43PM
That was not me.
Stkman| 12.18.12 @ 3:30PM
Again I ask, what kind of fetus?
spike59| 12.20.12 @ 6:04AM
maybe he's referring to an 'assault fetus'...?
Albert Constantine Jr.| 12.18.12 @ 4:09PM
If you capitalize your words, then that means you're shouting, but if I use bold, does that mean it must be true? Also, if I italicize, am I merely being snarky?
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:15PM
Show off.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:41PM
That was not me.
How did he do that?
Albert Constantine Jr.| 12.18.12 @ 5:43PM
Don't go all dyslexic on us.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:54PM
Again: Not Me.
Talk about not having a life.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 12.18.12 @ 8:08PM
Pretentious Hog?
Do these parentheses make my (BUT) look big?
TPL| 12.18.12 @ 8:55PM
Pretentious. That's you. Pompous pig also comes to mind when reading your posts.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 12.18.12 @ 10:19PM
Hog? Pig? Something makes me think the TPL guy isn't kosher.
TPL| 12.18.12 @ 10:58PM
Tra la la la la la la la la.
Jack London| 12.18.12 @ 11:33AM
Jeffery Lord is completely mad now. Quite sad really.
Jeff| 12.18.12 @ 12:01PM
Ahhhhhhhhh Jack the Politically Correct returns.
Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.
RCV| 12.18.12 @ 12:21PM
Mr. Lord has been deteriorating into his own little world for months now. You could see it in his separation from reality during the GOP primaries and then the pre-general election months when he was convinced of the imminent conservative victory.
Jeff| 12.18.12 @ 12:27PM
Now there's a substantive argument!
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 1:46PM
You're not surprised, are you?
Still waiting for your Boy's Plan for the next 4 Years, RCV.
Dumb@ss.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:44PM
That, also, was not me.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:55PM
It appears I have a Fan.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 6:31PM
It's actually pretty sad.
TPL| 12.18.12 @ 8:57PM
Sad? I'm just mimicking you. Your stupid vulgarity is so easy to imitate.
Slacker| 12.18.12 @ 12:29PM
I once worked with a fellow who was an intense anti-Semite. He blamed Jews and Zionism for everything problem in the world. Regardless of the subject, he would find a Jewish connection. It became a joke –crude office entertainment. Crazy Don’s playing find the Jew again. People began to set him up on purpose. He always took the bait. He could trick himself into believing anthing.
Lord’s seems to be at risk of doing the same thing with abortion. He sees it everywhere -much like how progressives see inequality at the core of everything. It all seems a little too simple.
Jack London| 12.18.12 @ 12:41PM
Lord has gone completely mad now - quite sad really.
Jack London| 12.18.12 @ 12:46PM
So true I've said it again. But to go along with this argument, how does forcing women into the hands of illegal abortionists solve things in his strange world?
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 1:50PM
More wit and wisdom from the "Cigarette" from London, as he types on his Keyboard, while waiting for something to eat to come through that Glory Hole he's kneeling in front of.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:56PM
Is that you, Purp?
Occam's Tool| 12.18.12 @ 12:57PM
Actually, there is a culture of death. Abortion, euthanasia, drug legalization, IPAB---all part of the same.
Jack London| 12.18.12 @ 1:00PM
It's far far worse in New Zealand though. Here we can become immortal.
Occam's Tool| 12.18.12 @ 5:22PM
Actually, having lived in Rotorua for a year and treated patients there, I can tell you that NZ IS far worse---one of the highest teen suicide rates in the world, higher than the US. Look it up.
Engle| 12.18.12 @ 2:22PM
Euthanasia? A good death? I am all for it. Bring it on. Euthanasia is a cardinal act of mercy. If we cannot ask for physician assisted suicide in the event of a painful, terminal condition, then we do not have control of our lives (deaths).
Jeff| 12.18.12 @ 2:53PM
So you are volunteering? What's your address?
Engle| 12.18.12 @ 3:56PM
I am not terminally ill, not yet.
chuck| 12.18.12 @ 4:20PM
Just terminally stupid.
JmsA| 12.18.12 @ 4:50PM
Euthanasia? You mean like this:
http://www.holocaustresearchpr.....index.html
You're shallow, but then again, you're a lefty, so it's not surprising.
JFGalt| 12.18.12 @ 1:14PM
I've always felt abortion was wrong but could never articulate it so succinctly. The world I remember before 1973 WAS DIFFERENT. Roe v Wade was a sea change for this nation and the marked end of the great nation that it once was. We've been on a downward spiral since and it clear to see the tipping point. While we still are a nation of great people we have no leader with the balls to come out and say what needs to be said to the rest of the country. The words need to be direct and not full of apologies or evasions. Alan Keyes is such a man but he would not be a good president - Ron Paul is such a man but nobody would listen including many here. Instead we chose Mitt Romney and so we handed the presidency back to OBAMA! and his liberal fruitcakes. We have cheapened life. Wars that never end. The coming death panels. I fear for the America that will be left to our children. I fear it will look like a mixture of Nazi Germany and Soylent Green.
Jack in Wi| 12.18.12 @ 1:20PM
MR. Galt: Have you got it right. I wrote off this country 40 years ago when Roe Vs Wade came down. I haven't seen much to change my mind since.
Jack London| 12.18.12 @ 1:31PM
Abortion numbers have been dropping every year since about the mid-90s. But let me ask you - are you also against easy provision of contraception through organizations such as Planned Parenthood and employers and how do you square that with being anti-abortion?
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 1:56PM
6 Million in the last 4 Years.
Just like the Last Holocaust.
Engle| 12.18.12 @ 2:23PM
Six million blobs of protoplasm.
BLOBS OF PROTOPLASM!
You pro-lifers are Killing the Republican Party.
Al Adab| 12.18.12 @ 3:04PM
The republican party is not what matters Engle. What matters are the moral absolutes which, like them or not, must be the center of our attention. If the unborn is not human, what is it? If the slave is not human, what is it? If the infirm is not human, what is it? If you are not human (by my definition) what are you? May I perform a retroactive abortion on you?
JmsA| 12.18.12 @ 4:53PM
Hate to tell you, but you're not going to make any headway with that; individuals like that have been deeply and terminally indoctrinated. That said, the retroactivity you mentioned sounds about right.
Stkman| 12.18.12 @ 3:32PM
what kind of protoplasm? What about the DNA makeup? Lie to yourself all you wish, the truth is still the truth.
Jeff| 12.18.12 @ 4:36PM
Engle...
The pro-lifers elected Reagan...When the moderates are in charge...and they have been since Reagan left....the party loses outright or wins by the grace of the Supreme Court or a few votes in Ohio. Moderate GOP nominees...Romney, McCain, Dole, Ford, etc etc...simply do not win. You keep insisting you guys can win...and then you lose. We have been down this losing road forever and it's time to get back to fundamentals.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:57PM
He's funny.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 12.18.12 @ 7:54PM
Definitely not contest worthy.
Al Adab| 12.18.12 @ 2:10PM
The issue is not the provision of contraception, but rather the use of taxpayer dollars for it. None of the non-profits like PP should have any claim to taxpayer funds. Period. Right or Left. For any purpose. Charity under compulsion is no charity at all.
Jeff| 12.18.12 @ 2:52PM
I certainly don't object to contraceptions. Buy all you want. Just don't force the Catholic Church...which does oppose contraception as a tenet of its faith - to pay for it. Or for that matter, the tax payer. As countless women have laughed...this isn't expensive. Go to Walmart and do your thing. 16 trillion in debt and we have to pay for somebody else's sex life? Uh-huh.
Jack London| 12.18.12 @ 2:58PM
OK - but stop whining about abortion if you won't fund women's health services.
Al Adab| 12.18.12 @ 3:07PM
Public funding of any non-profit, left or right, is anathema. Once we legitimize some "public services" (non governmental) where does the demand stop?
Jack London| 12.18.12 @ 3:17PM
Come now Al - surely some things are worth funding even for you as the alternatives are more costly. That's an argument a conservative can bank on.
Occam's Tool| 12.20.12 @ 4:22PM
I don't know---I always felt that if you were going to "do the wild thang" you could at least pay for the contraception, if asked.
Jeff| 12.18.12 @ 4:33PM
So what's next? Food health? Paying for health club memberships? What about car health? Etc etc etc....Utopia is not ever at hand...and thinking "oh if we just do X" and create another entitlement is exactly how we got where we are.
Bill8472| 12.18.12 @ 1:14PM
Our cultural standards have been systematically dismantled for the past half-century, and the people who are principally responsible blame the carnage on guns, when the blame belongs to the degradation of a culture from a high moral plane to an Anything Goes culture. And some folks think that the Anything Goes culture is a good thing. They blame the horror on the existence of guns.
Louis Jenkins| 12.18.12 @ 1:35PM
Anyone look at the picture? Obama all hugged up with wee-ones, and a police officer just off camera. Must be some tuff little children in that school. Never can tell when one of the tikes may pull out an M-70 grenade launcher and blast away. I thought schools were the safest place in America. (sarcasm)
vigilant| 12.18.12 @ 2:04PM
Abortion is not the problem, it's a symptom of the problem. The thinking that results in the cavalier discarding of a life at any stage, or any abuse of another for that matter, is the problem. Our culture is sinking further into the mindset of "I want what I want, regardless of the consequences. It's all about me, and truth is whatever I want it to be." You see a variation of that same thinking in AmSpec comments all the time--the pleasure some derive in being verbally abusive to others because it makes them feel superior and in control. Sadly, I think we're going to see an increase in this mentality, with Obama being a textbook example of its functioning in high places.
Nightwinger| 12.18.12 @ 2:22PM
So much "concern" about the UNborn....
Well the UNborn had better STAY unborn, because once they ARE born all right-wing interest and concern vanishes.
No support for food, housing, education.....nope, can't do that. Amazing that a blob of goo has more "protective rights" than a living, breathing infant. Suddenly that's Mom's problem and she's on her own.
Mr. Lord thinks women are just receptacles.
Jeff| 12.18.12 @ 2:49PM
My. Touchy, touchy.
It would seem on the face of it sex with no consequence is the receptacle idea...and conservatives believe to the contrary.
Occam's Tool| 12.18.12 @ 5:26PM
Funny: this Conservative works with Native Americans trying to make sure kids have sane, responsible moms in a place where the temps can drop to 30 below or worse. Both my kids are adopted from 3rd world countries. I doubt Nightwinger does Jack with the poor, or works like another Jack who posts here.
Jack in Wi., who I despise for other reasons, nonetheless works for multiple food shelters for the poor.
I see a pattern here, don't you?
DRed| 12.18.12 @ 5:52PM
You work for the government, don't you, Occam? According to most of the posters here, that makes you someone who gets paid with money stolen at gunpoint from real Americans to take care of a bunch of shiftless moochers. (I disagree with that, obviously-you do great work)
Occam's Tool| 12.20.12 @ 4:31PM
Thank you for your kind words, DRed. There are legitimate purposes of government, though, including public safety, which is what my job truly falls under. My rather good income comes from being on call 1:2,standing guard on agitated psychotics in the Great White North. I get a LOT of on call pay. Given what recently happened in Connecticut, and the lack of a similar happening in NW MN since I've been here (Red Lake shootings were before my time), I find relatively few Conservatives deride my skills or service. See Rich Lowry's latest comments in NR.
Further, it is also obvious that despite your Liberalism, you don't agree with the ACLU's opinions on this issue, either. Like I said, a good human being. G-d Bless. Happy Holidays, and, if you drive in such a place, drive safely through the ice and snow and be safe!
!
Kingofthenet| 12.18.12 @ 2:23PM
I blame Fox News, all the Benghazi coverage is making you NeoCons Crazy.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 3:21PM
How can you be so smart sometimes, and so Stupid the rest of the time?
So, according to you, what happened in Benghazi is Unimportant, Irrelevant, and Nobody's Business.
Is that what you're saying?
After watching the Live Feed of the attack, your Boy went to bed. He Denied these Americans any kind of help, and then, went to bed, for a good night's sleep, so he could get up in the morning and go to Las Vegas to Fund Raise, and go to Jay Z's house for a Party.
And, you don't have a Problem with that?
What the Fck is wrong with you?
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 3:23PM
I look forward to his Caisson Ride down Pennsylvania Avenue.
God Willing.
Engle| 12.18.12 @ 4:04PM
A "Caisson Ride down Pennsylvania Avenue."
TLP, you are one sick, evil person.
In fact, some of the most evil cant I have ever read is right hear on AmSpec.
And you all claim to be Christians. God help us all!
You are filth! Vermin.
chuck| 12.18.12 @ 4:28PM
As I Christian, I still believe some people need killin'.
Bin Laden and his ilk certainly needed to be sent off to the eternal dirt nap. Ditto that for Hussein (Saddam), Kaddafi, and other tyrants. Assad will soon be joining them.
And if one "Caisson Ride" can help save the country that I love....................
Kingofthenet| 12.18.12 @ 5:11PM
Don't worry the Secret Service will be along soon...
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:21PM
If they would adhere to their OATH, to protect the Constitution from all enemies, both Foreign and DOMESTIC.
He'd already be gone.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:45PM
None of those was me.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:58PM
He's really funny.
chuck| 12.18.12 @ 6:55PM
Good thing TPL (not TLP) is venting. Mentality like that, he probably be shooting up a school somewhere.
Let it out, TPL..........we're here for you.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 12.18.12 @ 8:32PM
Way to show your sensitive side, Chuck. One way to keep the unbalanced from totally tipping over is to give appropriate support (unfortunately, now that TPL has been deleted he will likely be denied the compassion of the rest of us).
TPL| 12.18.12 @ 8:58PM
shit
fuck
asshole
homo
fag
etc.
Who Knows?| 12.18.12 @ 3:14PM
I think being born as a human being is a grace, because it’s hard to imagine popping out as a form of life lower in the Being scale, even a “wise” and “faithful” dog, and being able to become Enlightened.
Yes, beneath all the classical or non-classical word strings, every One is never other than living in wonder---what the fluck just happened: as soon as “you” complete the Big Split from It All, say around the age of 2 or 3, and “you” recognize “others” “out there”, and assume “you” are “in here”, with “here” being the bound body, enveloped with an ever changing epidermis.
Living a long or a short life isn’t the point, and neither is being pretty or ugly or in between.
It’s always all about WAKING UP!
What else does the ever-true hubris-nemesis metric mean?
Even just going along and ferociously trying to avoid all kinds of trouble, like being a moderation fanatic, say, doesn’t cut it---permeating each separate one’s ongoing awareness is the fact that they will die! Most people accept the “bargain”, which is that they will fulfill the conventional “laws” by working, to keep order, and thereby “get to” play their nervous system, to in effect pluck it as a pleasurable “string”, with eating thrills, sexual bliss, and don’t forget the mental ecstasies, such as higher math, or power playing, such as Obama in high dudgeon.
What “hubris-nemesis” translates into is:
Observe, understand, and transcend. O.U.T.
Who Knows?| 12.18.12 @ 3:14PM
Yes, USE imminent death as an ally, because the Absolute Truth is that living a human life is never fulfilling, so the only escape is to Transcend it all! In Consciousness. As Consciousness.
Which Is what “you” ARE, in Truth.
If you’re beaten up enough, and experiencing the NEEDED crisis, or already have passed through it, I recommend getting radical, as in “going for the root”. Return to what you were, before your mother and father were born.
Before!!!
It is STILL clinging, to revel in ancestor worship, as if your dead mother and father were any more Enlightened than you, or most living people today, even if they lived a more “noble” life---conventionally.
Oh, how much does humanity need to accept the revolution in Consciousness wrought by the Madhyamika Buddhism master, Nagarjuna, circa 150 A.D.!
We, in the West, idolize Copernicus, and accept his Revolution that changed science for the Truthful better.
Just so, someday, if humanity doesn’t collapse in an Atlantis-like hubris-led way, maybe in a thousand years, Nagarjuna will be as revered as Copernicus.
In the meantime, the MEAN TIME of Obama hubris, though, get ready for massive events that will be impossible to miss.
First stage---OBSERVATION!
Second stage, UNDERSTANDING.
Third stage, TRANSCENDING is but a gleam in the “eye” of It All, as of 2012.
Enlightenment.
Who Knows?| 12.18.12 @ 3:45PM
From Dr. Richard Schulze--
“In EVERY case of mass shootings in the last few decades, the killers were later found out to be taking LEGAL, medical doctor prescribed, pharmaceutical, mind-altering, prescription drugs. This recent horrifying tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut will be no different.
Medical doctors won’t stop messing with our kids’ minds, that is the problem here. It is not really about gun control, the issue here is pharmaceutical drug control!
You won’t hear this talked about or debated on the pharmaceutically sponsored television networks or cable news shows. This is one issue too hot to handle and NONE of them will touch it. That is why I do. I MUST!
I am not making a political statement for or against gun control, even though I find it interesting that Connecticut has some of the strictest gun control laws in the entire United States. I am just pointing out here that as usual, after any horrifying senseless killing spree, to ease our pain, it is much easier to strike out and blame the weapon of choice, than get to the real cause of the problem. So we will continue to blame guns, bullets, knives, hammers, sharpened screwdrivers, bricks or whatever other tools these drug induced murderers use, or the people who sell the tools or manufacture them, instead of looking at the WHY!
WHY did these kids kill other kids? That is the real question here, and answering that question will give us the real solution."
Who Knows?| 12.18.12 @ 3:47PM
Drugs Cause Violence,
but NOT the Drugs you Think!
Take a look back at any of the school, movie theater or wherever shootings in the last few decades done by teenagers or young adults—from Columbine to Virginia Tech to the Aurora Movie Theater to Newtown.
YES, these kids were ALL on drugs, but not Crack, PCP, Heroin, Methamphetamines, Ecstasy, LSD or even Pot. So while principals, social workers, parents and teachers alike are worrying about street drugs and pushers infiltrating our schools and exposing our children, we should instead be worrying about what the school nurse is pushing in her white cart down the hallway.
EVERY single one of these murdering kids in the last few decades was treated by medical doctors, with numerous mind-altering or mood-altering drugs, in many instances since childhood, for depression, hyperactivity, ADD, ADHD, Bipolar Syndrome or dozens of other new kid’s diseases.
First of all, besides a rare case of depression, none of these diseases even existed in our children 30 years ago. The late Dr. Robert Mendelssohn, one of the nation’s former leading pediatricians, in his books, ‘How To Raise a Healthy Child In Spite of Your Doctor’ and ‘Confessions of a Medical Heretic’ stated that most of these new childhood “diseases” are nothing more than typical childhood behavior, that we all witnessed when we were kids.
Who Knows?| 12.18.12 @ 3:51PM
. But today, because of classroom overcrowding, overworked teachers and stressed out parents, drugs are an easier choice to numb the minds of unruly kids. Turning these kids into well-behaved zombies, well that is “well behaved” until they backfire and become killers.
In public and private schools today, it is not an unusual sight to see the school nurse pushing a drug cart, just like in a hospital, going from classroom to classroom, dispensing mind-altering drugs to a surprising number of the students.
But beyond a few bad teachers and some lazy parents, we have to take a look at ALL the causes. Besides the huge surge in sugar and artificial everything, and serious lack of nutrition and exercise in our kids’ lives, we have to look at the pharmaceutical drugs the parents took before and during pregnancy.
We should also look at childhood vaccinations. In 1983, only seven vaccinations were suggested for kids. Thirty years later, in 2012, medical authorities now suggest SIXTY childhood vaccinations. This 2012, 60-vaccination schedule put out by the federal government’s Center for Disease Control is approved and endorsed by the American Academy of Pediatric Physicians, The American Academy of Family Physicians and the Department of Health and Human Services. Our kids don’t have a fighting chance!
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Finally, we have to look at all the prescription drugs now being begged for by parents, prescribed by medical doctors and taken by children, and see what role these play in causing these slaughters of the innocent.
So is this explosive, violent, murderous and eventually suicidal behavior directly caused by pharmaceutical drugs? ABSOLUTELY!
Black Box Warnings
The FDA has warned us for over a decade about how these drugs backfire and cause violent and suicidal behavior in children and adolescents, and later increased this warning to include young adults up to the age of 25.
There is a Black Box Warning on ALL of these types of drugs, the most serious and highest level of warning demanded by the FDA stating: “These drugs may increase the risk of suicidal thinking and suicidal behavior in children and young adults.”
“MAY increase” IS NOT TRUE. In every study done, these drugs ABSOLUTELY DID INCREASE the suicidal thinking and suicidal behavior!
In some studies the results were squashed quickly, up to 35% of the participants experienced suicidal thoughts and many others attempted suicide. But the final percentage was the minimal, and lowered to a 4% increase. The final medical decision was the typical and usual, “The benefit of these drugs outweigh the 4% negative side effects”.
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”. This means that if we believe the drug manufacturers, out of 100 kids taking these drugs, a minimum of 4 will have suicidal thinking and suicidal behavior. The harsh reality is that your kids are locked in a school with other kids that are at least thinking about killing themselves, if not killing everyone else FIRST.
Occam's Tool| 12.18.12 @ 5:29PM
When the Black Box warning went into effect on antidepressants, suicides among American teens rose. When the medications were once again prescribed more widely, suicide rates dropped. WK: you are an ignorant idiot.
Who Knows?| 12.19.12 @ 11:21AM
OT, you are a fool.
Or, better is a tool. Aren't you someone who prescribes pills to people, even kids?
By the way---my long entry was a quote from Dr. Richard Schulze, someone you could learn a lot from.
Occam's Tool| 12.20.12 @ 4:34PM
I don't think so. Thanks for playing, WK, but my CAT has forgotten more about psychiatry than you will ever know. My last reboard was 92%, one of the highest in the USA.
Occam's Tool| 12.18.12 @ 5:28PM
No, he wasn't. And treatment reduces violence, it does not cause it.
richard611| 12.29.12 @ 9:38PM
Not so Doc, If it were only a matter of knives, hammers, sharpened screw drivers, etc we would not have the tools needed for mass murder. Surely you don't think a knife wielding psychopath could create such a horrific murderous body count as happened in Connecticu. However, I do follow you on the problem with the over prescription of psychoactive drug remedies... but was this shooter in Newton on such drugs? Or was the more recent shooter in upstate NY easy to dismiss as someone over medicated? I think not...because as far as I know, there have always been a psychopath lurking about in society with wanton desires to kill, but without the means. But today its much easier for psychopaths to act out as never before...
Connecticut is not exempt because of their gun laws, because all any psychopath has to do is drive across borders.
Mistral| 12.18.12 @ 4:00PM
The picture above has a very uneasy feeling about it. There is the tax-funded pro-abortion POTUS holding such young children also destined for perverted sex education programming in a state social engineering educational establishment which he supports with gay/transvestism included. Mr Lord, there is not just a total disrespect for life in USA today but there is also no moral code anymore. How can children ever be safe in such a disgusting society as POTUS is implementing?
Kingofthenet| 12.18.12 @ 4:09PM
Why are we talking about such trivial matters, when all the while Hillary FAKED her concussion to avoid talking about Benghazi?
Jackson K. Eskew| 12.18.12 @ 4:42PM
This devastating essay needs to be spread far and wide.
Yet I'd recommend some linguistic corrections related to the topic:
1) Abortions aren't had, gotten, or performed. Abortions are inflicted, committed, perpetrated.
2) Those who inflict, commit, perpetrate abortions (better: surgical infanticides) should no longer be honored with the name of doctors. Rather, let's call them surgical hitmen or surgical terrorists.
3) Nor are those who hire surgical terrorists to be called victims. They're co-conspirators.
Putting it all together, we get something like this:
"Jane and Tom took out a contract on their baby's life by hiring a surgical hitman to commit infanticide."
Or:
"Shaquilla is considering hiring a hitman to perpetrate surgical infanticide."
In short, let's refuse any longer to accede to the feigned moral neutrality of this wretched brave new world.
Kingofthenet| 12.18.12 @ 5:02PM
I want to save the 'babies' too, but I ain't paying for those rats once they are born.
spike59| 12.20.12 @ 6:12AM
of course not...as a true ProgLibDem 'thinker' you expect "peter" to pay for "paul"...
freedom1| 12.18.12 @ 5:07PM
Thank you for an articulate and civilized argument for life. There are many Americans aching for meaningful, serious and respectful dialogue on the topic of abortion. We cannot afford to ignore this painful topic any longer. Thank you for starting the conversation.
TLP| 12.18.12 @ 5:58PM
I bet you are.
TPL| 12.18.12 @ 9:00PM
I bet you are a liberal, homo, asshole, commie, shiteater.
Seek| 12.18.12 @ 6:47PM
I find this a preposterous piece on so many levels that space limits me to a few points.
First, since it is ultimately women, and not men, who make the decision to abort, one would think that mass killers would be overwhelmingly women, no? Yes, there are females who commit mass murder, including that sweet Christian homeschooling quiverfull mom, Andrea Yates. But they're in a minority.
Second, there surely must a delayed reaction here. Roe v. Wade was handed down in 1973. There were plenty of serial and mass murders before then (Richard Speck, Albert DiSalvo, etc.). But equally important, why did it take 40 years for this Connecticut murder to happen? Slow osmosis?
Third, there is nothing resembling a social consensus on abortion. There are plenty of decent, family-oriented people who happen to be pro-choice as well as pro-life. Those who redefine abortion law to relect behavior are not "evil." Wrong perhaps. But not evil.
The ultimate problem with this article is its one-size-fits-all mentality. You could plug this peice in every time something else like this happens for the next five centuries. It tells us nothing about the motives of the killer, in this case, a disturbed Asperger's Syndrome, hyper-shy nerd.
Lord should do a little more thinking before committing his keyboard to action.
Nightwinger| 12.18.12 @ 7:40PM
An intelligent comment, but misses the point.
Lord is trying to conflate abortions to mass killings----"potential" to actual living, breathing children.
This is the religeous Taliban wing that regards women as mere baby factories with no personal rights even of their own bodies. It's their version of Sharia Law they would impose on the country if given a chance.
Purp| 12.18.12 @ 10:38PM
Equating murder of innocent children with a semi-automatic rifle robbing them of their future with a medical procedure in a clinic by choice of a fetus that cannot live on it's own is just plain Stupid.
spike59| 12.20.12 @ 6:10AM
either way, at the end of the day, you have a dead human child; the only difference is the age of the victim
btw, aren't you the guy who blamed Ambassador Stevens for his own death???? you're still a turd
gray man| 12.18.12 @ 11:51PM
I guess you are too ignorant to know that when you get aborted, you've been robbed of your future.
asinine comment.
GLW7| 12.19.12 @ 8:36AM
Mr. Lord wrote: "There was another irony in that Newtown ceremony with the president. It was opened by the pastor of the Newtown Congregational Church, a member of the larger United Church of Christ denomination. Which happens to be my own denomination. The UCC says this on its website:
The United Church of Christ is one of the founding faith groups of the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, formed in 1973 as the Religious Coalition for Abortion Rights.
One has to ask when my church will begin to question itself on the connection between its stance on abortion — and the culture of violence that has taken so many lives in Newtown."
GLW7: I find it ironic that you bother to maintain membership in a so-called "church" that panders to the culture of death. Why not withdraw your membership and support from such a pseudo-church and re-affiliate with a church body that affirms and supports your pro-life values?
Lucky Jack| 12.20.12 @ 9:02PM
My thoughts exactly, Mr. Lord. Yes, we grieve the loss of these youths, but it pales in comparison to the 3,000 unborn Americans ripped apart daily- limb from limb. (I thought drawn & quartering was cruel and unusual punishment?) As the late, great Robert Bork penned, we're slouching [I'll say running] toward Gomorrah.
SoquelCreek | 12.27.12 @ 5:07PM
Based on 2007 data from the U.S. Census Bureau, roughly 100 TIMES MORE innocent lives are taken each and every day by abortion than from all those tragically killed in Newton. Politicians will demand even more restrictions on law-abiding gun owners and will continue to block any and all common-sense regulation of abortion.
Putting Gun Violence into Proper Perspective
http://soquelbythecreek.blogsp.....roper.html
richard611| 12.29.12 @ 6:18PM
This has to be one of the most absurd articles that I have read lately... its pure arrogant ignorance to try to conflate a psychopath who guns down 20 children & 8 adults with a woman's right to chose when or when not to give birth.... Jeffrey Lord is basically blaming woman who chose to abort a fetus with being responsible for the pathologies of men who murder. That is a desperate argument that purposely avoids the realization that high power guns are more readily available these days than ever were through out American History... So this article reads as just another conservative attempt to bash woman--as the proverbial war on woman's rights.
A culture of hate is more likely the reason why men go on killing sprees... a culture of violence just adds to that pathology...Of course Murderers lack respect for life, duh. The better question is: where do psychos learn to hate enough to go on killing sprees and how come its so easy for murderous psychos to arm themselves these days? One hing is for sure--no one with a flint lock, not even a pathological wanna be murderer would go on a successful murdering bing with a muzzle loader.