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Prepare for the Worst
We will soon suffer the death, or at least the crippling, of a thousand regulatory cuts.
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The better a businessman you are, the better a business you have, the more you will be a target, the more you will be viewed by the government the way a leech views a vein on a hiker’s ankle. Unfortunately, you can’t just sprinkle salt on the IRS agent to make him shrivel up and go away. (Yes, that works well with leeches.)
AS WE TRUDGE THROUGH THE MUDDY debates over government spending and taxation, it bears keeping in mind the nature of our president, who believes in “spreading the wealth around” and raising taxes, even if it would not increase government revenue, “for purposes of fairness.”
Following his re-election, Barack Obama scheduled meetings with interest groups to discuss their perspectives on the fiscal cliff negotiations. It was not just symbolic, though the symbolism is important too, that he met first with labor bosses and progressive activists, and only later with CEOs.
Barack Obama is probably not telling the truth when he says he is focused on his job; after all, he will never run for office again and what little focus he has had for the last 18 months has all been directed toward fundraising—even the day after the murder of our ambassador in Libya. In other words, he is focused neither on keeping his job nor on doing it. But when he says he cares about your job, he is not speaking to you unless you are a union boss, an opponent of free enterprise, or a rent-seeking wind farm, solar panel, or “advanced battery” manufacturer.
The president’s inherently anti-business instincts will constitute the single biggest hurdle to a sensible fiscal cliff resolution, though he and his media lackeys will no doubt blame any disagreement on Republicans. Anyway, why shouldn’t they, politically speaking? After all, the public has already demonstrated itself sufficiently ignorant to accept Obama’s narcissistic blame-shifting. Election exit polls showed about half the nation still holds President Bush responsible for our economic troubles.
But beyond the fiscal cliff, Obama’s anti-business instincts will remain a large-caliber weapon aimed at the heart of our economy until this president is out of office. To the extent that the next four years are different from the past four, they are likely to be worse rather than better, as our economy is forced to swallow ever greater doses of Keynesian snake oil and hyper-regulation.
Some suggest hopefully that voters might shift the balance of power in the Senate in 2014. But optimism, at least for the economy, on that score is unfounded: Much or most of the Obama assault on business will be through the regulatory structure, not through legislation that already will not pass through a Republican-controlled House of Representatives.
While a fiscal cliff resolution that addresses mushrooming entitlement spending will be better for the economy than a deal that anticipates chimerical government revenue gains from soaking the “rich,” the whole spectacle reminds one of a magician waving his left hand, drawing your attention away from the card he’s slipping into his right sleeve.
SO WHAT IS TO BE DONE? As much as we want to urge on champions of liberty to fight for the economic and moral soul of this nation, and as much as we have men and women of courage willing to take on that fight, the best strategy for at least the next two years, and probably the entirety of Obama’s remaining term, is defense: plain and simple survival.
What has come before pales in comparison to the bloodletting about to be imposed by the hundreds of intrusive, expensive, economically crippling rules and regulations about to fall on our heads.
Businessmen and women know this. They will not be fooled by a fiscal cliff deal, especially one that cannot credibly claim to reduce our deficit and debt over the long term. They will not hire more full-time workers or substantially expand businesses. They will grow where they can, but will hire contractors and part-time workers who will not receive the benefits that employees currently expect (though those workers will nevertheless feel grateful to have any sort of job in the Obama economy).
As we muddle through the next four years, however, there are things we can and must do to prepare for a better future:
- Take back a piece of the education system and, along with it, some of the media, so that we will have a less ignorant electorate.
- Convince “establishment” and Tea Party Republicans alike that the quality of a candidate—first in character and intelligence, with electability close behind—is more important than the nth degree of philosophical purity.
- Make the moral case for liberty, though without sounding as if we are moralizing. The Declaration of Independence is a fine place to start.
- Prevent the left from successfully demanding that they be judged solely on the basis of their claimed intentions and without regard to the actual outcomes of their policies.
- Adhere to many of the GOP’s conservative social values, but find a way to keep candidates from sounding irredeemably ignorant or intolerant. In particular, this means very slight moderation in the way abortion is discussed, but large moderation on issues of “gay rights” and civil unions.
- Although it will be a narrow needle to thread, find an immigration policy that allows humane treatment of illegal immigrants who have lived here for nearly all their lives, but which still avoids the moral hazard created by outright amnesty.
Regarding the last two points, the GOP’s Achilles’ heel is not being too conservative, but rather being perceived as intolerant and bigoted. This must change or the majority of the Millennial generation—those currently under 30 years old, including those who might otherwise be conservative—will be lost by Republicans forever.
Despite the devastatingly disappointing results of November’s election, our nation is not lost. It is, however, closer to being lost than at any time since the Civil War. It will take wisdom, patience, and introspection by Republicans to save it.
It is this long-term view that we must take over the next four years, because even a reasonably good outcome in the fiscal cliff negotiations will not be enough to heal the economy in the face of an incessant assault by the Obama regulatory leviathan.
About the Author
Ross Kaminsky is a self-employed trader and investor and is a senior fellow of the Heartland Institute. He is the host of The Ross Kaminsky Show on Denver’s NewsRadio 850 KOA at 11 AM on most Sundays. You can reach Ross by e-mail at rossputin(at)rossputin(dot)com.
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MelvinNC| 12.12.12 @ 7:34AM
How many of us have ever went through a red light, cheated on our taxes, or talked our way out of a ticket when authority pulled us over?
It felt good didn't it, it felt personally gratifying to flout some unseen government regulation. You felt empowered like for once you where in control of your own life, even for a brief moment, but it still felt gratifying nonetheless.
There is something not quite right when 2% of the population force through the power of big government regulations down the other 98% throats.
People, en-masse we don't have to follow these destructive regulations. The Bolsheviks can pick us off one by one or two and fews, but they are completely unable to adequately enforce such regulations on the millions that do not wish to comply.
Am I endorsing that the masses should flout the governments regulations? No, what I am endorsing is the rights and the freedoms of the individual.
TLP| 12.12.12 @ 9:17AM
Melvin is exactly right. For a Free Country, we certainly have a lotta people telling us NO, everytime we wanna do something.
As far as the things What's his name has written?
If I was Grading him - and I am - I would give him a hard C-. His writing reveals a somewhat tepid understanding of what we face.
When he says that Black Jesus (Hat Tip to Jamie - let's kill all the White people - Foxx) seeks to "Throw a Wet Blanket on Growth, Investment, and our Nation's Future"? What he should have written was that this Son of a Muslim Drunk and an Atheist Wh*re, wants to Suffocate those Babies in their Cribs.
Our Hero, like so many who run in the same Circles, still do not Grasp the implications.
He seeks to be 1,000 Jet Planes on 911. He seeks to do to the rest of this Country, what the Japanese did to Pearl Harbour, lo those 67 Years ago.
"Behold. I am become Death. The Destroyer of Worlds."
That's who he is.
Who he was BORN TO BE.
No man can stop him, now. He truly has become: Pharaoh. He is Abu Hussain. The Son of the Father. Hamas' Deliveror.
Only The Grim Reaper can stop him, now.
Let's hope he's not otherwise occupied, killing what's left of John Scarborough's integrity.
I'm just sayin.
OP4| 12.12.12 @ 10:56AM
Free country? Where do you live? Certainly not in the 3-felonies-a-day USA.
TLP| 12.12.12 @ 11:15AM
Did you read anything past the 1st sentence?
Cause, I'm thinkin ya didn't.
KennesawJack| 12.12.12 @ 12:20PM
Your absence on a couple of other threads has been noted.
TLP| 12.12.12 @ 1:42PM
I can't find a place to get a word in, edgewise.
Joellen| 12.12.12 @ 2:25PM
Tim, "hat tip to Jamie Fox - let's kill all the white people". What you talking about boy, according to Bill O'Reilly that wasnt hate speech or racist, nooooooooooo, that was just good ole fun on Jamies part. Can I get an amen on that brother!
TLP| 12.12.12 @ 2:46PM
AMEN!
And, stop watching that Blowhard.
He's not one of us.
Purp| 12.12.12 @ 6:38PM
Poor Melvin ... you have it exactly backwards. The 2% ARE shoving it down your throat and hiding behind their carefully constructed Bogeyman of the the BIG BAD Government.
Whether it's ALEC, Chamber of Commerce, Heritage or Cato Institute it's all the same.
Funded by the Koch Bros, Sheldon Adelson and their ilk. Wonder why they spend their own money on all of that? Well, you figure it out.
On the other hand, millions of Americans funded the President's campaign. When you finally wake up who's being hoodwinked, maybe you'll get a raise and good paying job.
Pecos Pete| 12.12.12 @ 7:52AM
Ross writes: " It will take wisdom, patience, and introspection by Republicans to save it [the USA]." If that's what it takes then we are surely dead without a change in the Republican Party leadership. And that ain't going to happen.
My opinion has not changed from my comments hear on November 7, 1212: "The USA died on November 6, 1212."
Well managed companies are now making decisions that are counter-productive to the future of their companies in the USA. Acceleration of dividends from future years to 2012 to avoid the coming tax increase on dividends. Refusing to invest in future assets. Refusing to invest in more full-time employees. Management spends its time in planning sessions on how to avoid taxes and regulations instead of how to provide customer satisfaction with competitive products.
We are in a death spiral leading to Chinese inspired central planning of 5-year plans. Forward to Fascism!
KennesawJack| 12.12.12 @ 12:21PM
Well, Immelt likes 'em.
R Martin| 12.12.12 @ 7:55AM
Mr. Kaminsky, given the business climate you describe, could you please explain why the stock market is recovering so well from its post election swoon. I can understand an “any port in a storm” reaction to Bernanke’s money printing, but then gold isn’t doing very well either.
Politicians have already signaled that at best they will turn the cliff into a slippery slope. We’re running annual deficits of $ 1.3 trillion, yet negotiators are flailing about in hopes of saving one or two trillion over the next TEN years. Yet no one is saying, “What are you putzes doing?”
And as to your to-do list, I don’t see much hope for the other items without some major progress on the first. Public education has been an embarrassment for decades, but teachers’ unions still negotiate sweeter deals (even in Detroit, apparently). And the media is growing more leftist.
Cheer me up.
TLP| 12.12.12 @ 9:49AM
Let me take a stab at that, little Rickey.
First of all......The Stock Market is a Game for the Ultra Uber Rich. Period. And, what's good for them, most times has the Opposite Effect on the rest of us.
QE 1,2,3,4,5 - whatever? That's good for them. Printing Money so The Fed can buy up things that are, essentially - Dead Weight - to a lot of these Dow Jonesers, is a good thing, for them. It Clears up their Books. The Market goes up.
On the other side of the equation: The rest of us become Purp at a Poop Chute Party, sans the Vaseline, as the Loss in Value of our Not so mighty Dollar, makes everything that WE buy, that much more expensive.
Plus, it's a Game.
When prices go Up? They sell, and take their profits. The Market goes down.
Now, they turn around and buy back their shares at a new Lower Price, thus driving the Prices back up. Rinse. Repeat.
And, don't forget: We are Crony Capital Heaven, now. It's more who ya Blow than Who ya know, then ever. And, all these guys wanna be the Next Jeffrey Immelt or Warren Buffet.
They just haven't decided which shade of Lipstick to apply yet, as it takes time to learn how to be a Whore.
Though, apparently not too long, if you're last name is Dunham.
But, I digress.
Al Adab| 12.12.12 @ 10:42AM
Buy common stocks for dividend yield. For example, R R Donelly selling at about $9.44 pays a dividend of $1.04. Yield is almost 11% Not a bad return on say 10K invested. Just one of many opportunities out there. Only takes a little research.
Nancy in NC| 12.12.12 @ 12:34PM
Yeah, and what's going to happen when Ozero decides he needs that money? Exactly what would stop him from taking it?
Al Adab| 12.12.12 @ 1:01PM
Should that happen Nancy, as it well may (in fact dividen tax rates go up in Jan.), there is no point continuing beyond. Money would be wothless and everyone would be dependant upon govt. largess or chosing to move or die.
OP4| 12.12.12 @ 10:58AM
The stock market is going up for the same reasons that oil and food prices are rising. They aren't rising - the dollars in your pocket are depreciating.
Ross Kaminsky| 12.13.12 @ 5:56AM
One thing to keep in mind about the market, especially indices that represent large companies, is that they have armies of lawyers, accountants, and consultants designed to maneuver through and around regulations. Small companies, the source of job growth in this country, don't have those things. Nor do they have the economies of scale and the ability to generate efficiency (by firing people) that large companies have.
So although the stock market is partly representative of the economy, it is far from a perfect representation of the business environment for smaller companies...which I reemphasize are the source of new employment in this country.
Von Mises Jr| 12.12.12 @ 8:07AM
Hillsdale College "Constitution 201" has a lesson (week 7) that discusses how the progressive movement is about separating politics and administration. The goal of the progressives is to create the Leviathan that is unresponsive to a democratic process and plebiscite.
Today we call these same socialist liberals, but in fact they are the most illiberal of all. Justice William Brennan, Herbert Croly and Walter Rauchenbusch are some of the progressives quoted discuss thwarting the "passions" of the people to dictate the "will" of the nation. The only problem seems to be that Brennan, Croly, Rauchenbusch and their ilk get too unilaterally along with Leviathan Statist friends determine what that "will" is.
The amazing fact in the segment is Marx taught about faction’s high-jacking the process 150 years ago, although it apparently never occurred to him that the Ruling Party IS a faction that WILL highjack the nation.
Today you see this happening right in front of your eyes. The first challenge is to see it, understand it and be able to explain it. We are seeing the work of the devil in contorting reality and the snakes are telling us lies. If you don’t believe me, ask Eve.
BTW, Constitution 101 and 210 are free.
ArmyAviator| 12.12.12 @ 9:01AM
You are quite correct in your statement that "socialist liberals," are most intollerant. The gloves are going to come off fast, and the nation is going to soon see Liberal Socialism for what it truly is. When our government morphs into a Liberal Socialist TOTALITARIAN POLICE STATE, ruled by Liberal Socialist Elites, many will look up from their dismal existence and ask, "What went wrong?" Through he guise of "we care about the people," or "We do it to be fair," Liberal Socialist STATISM will bring about the worst conditions seen in the world since the Soviet Gulag and the impoverished Eastern Block satelites. The day will come when Liberal Socialists turn their backs on the blacks, gays, women and other minorities. I would relish to see that day, except it means that our country is already ruined and will not rise out of the ashes. There is going to be a multitude of former parasites who wake up one day to find their ObamaPhone inoperative and the "stash" dried up. When the buffet of social goodies dries up and blows away the real revolution will begin. People will actually have to WORK again, at anything they can find to earn a living. The govenment tit will be gone, as will the job creators, having already been depleted by "the people."
Von Mises Jr| 12.12.12 @ 10:43AM
There were no "unemployed" in the Soviet Union. Even if you didn't get a good dinner, you better show up on time to perform your government job of scrubbing the subway floors or cleaning the streets.
Remember the story of the first settlers where William Bradford was reduced to demanding the Bible command that "you don't eat if you don't work."
I know the liberals hate the Bible and the Founding of this great nation, but it would do them a favor if they studied history.
TLP| 12.12.12 @ 11:28AM
Excellent Comparison.
And, each Month, as Thousands and Thousands give up looking for work, the Unemployment Rate gets lower.
The Media Wets itself. The GOP says nothing. And, guys like Purp and RCV and that other Idiot vtwin, inform us about how Obamanomics is kicking ass.
It's kicking ass, all right. Kicking it right outta the Work Force,.
All Hail Obama! King of Joblessness. The Keeper of the Foreclosed Kingdom. Lord of the Food Stamp Manor. Harbinger of Hopelessness. And Duke of Despair.
And now he will Finish what he Started.
God help us.
Von Mises Jr| 12.12.12 @ 12:08PM
Thanks my friend. I thought you were still mad at me for playing your Friday game Monday through Thursday and not on Friday.
I liked sales since if you worked hard for four-and-a-half days, every weekend was a long weekend.
TLP| 12.12.12 @ 1:49PM
Like - Worshipping The Lord?
We all join The Contest in our own way.
You do realize, that The Contest is open til 7pm, Saturday, don't you?
You really don't know what you're missing.
We had 302 Entries last week, and every one of them was HILARIOUS.
Friday/Saturday.
You won't be disappointed.
Von Mises Jr| 12.12.12 @ 2:47PM
That's about how many comments Perp makes on any article about socialism. But he is not funny.
Did they catch him in MI yet for sucker punching Crowder?
Purp| 12.12.12 @ 3:00PM
We're repairing and recovering from the "Brainless Bush Crash of 2008" ... nothing to do with "Obamanomics".
CJW| 12.12.12 @ 4:23PM
Purpie the Village Idiot's view of the unborn child:
"Purp| 11.7.12 @ 1:16PM
The unborn have no rights - they are biological entities until God allows them to be born."
Purp| 12.12.12 @ 4:40PM
We're repairing and recovering from the "Brainless Bush Crash of 2008" ... nothing to do with "Obamanomics".
CJW| 12.12.12 @ 4:44PM
Purp the Village Idiot posted the following after the elections:
"Purp| 11.8.12 @ 10:35AM
"The Lord rules, not Obama." - CORRECT!
The Lord works in mysterious ways... and this is something for the faithful to contemplate in the way the see the world:
Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials."
So purpie believes God killed over 100 persons and destroyed millions of dollars of property to help Obama win.
In Sept Purpie wrote that Amassador Stevens was at fault and caused his death.
Purpie also wrote that the unborn are biological entities not deserving of protection until God allows them to be born. (What does this mean?)
Purpie represents the Loon Left that should be mocked and ridiculed, and not engaged in conversation
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Purp| 12.10.12 @ 10:41AM
All you're doing is spreading the true words that you don't like.
You are beyond stupid, purpie
Purp| 12.12.12 @ 6:53PM
Liberals founded the country you fool.
Your people are bankrupting us.
Ross Kaminsky| 12.13.12 @ 5:57AM
obviously, our founders were not "liberals" in today's sense of the word. They considered themselves liberals in the Lockean sense, and would have been far more in tune with today's Libertarians than either of the two major parties, I suspect.
Al Adab| 12.12.12 @ 10:38AM
Jr:
Good course. Took it online. We all know the history of how we got to this point. What we need is a strategy and plan to rebuild a semblance of free markets and eliminate regulatory agencies by the boatload.
Hardly a day goes by anymore wherein we do not find some new impost, such as the $63 health care fee of yesterday, imposed to eke out our substance.
Von Mises Jr| 12.12.12 @ 10:50AM
Al: There is a new Hillsdale series on Western History and Civilization. I plan to complete the ten week course over Christmas.
That way I won't have to depend on Perp to inform me on Locke, Burke and Montesquieu or Descartes, Hegel and Nietzsche.
Perp is still wrangling with the "social justice" conundrum of Bar and Moochelle's $1.4B travel and entertainment budget while Mayor Booker is demonstrating that he can get by on $30 per week food budget.
Where is Caliban anyway? I'll bet he is the guy in MI that sucker punched Crowder.
TeaPartyNow| 12.12.12 @ 10:51AM
The problem with the right is that more often than not, it would rather glorify the left, as in your comment, than openly oppose it.
You don't have to lay out what utopians are, as much as you must demand a civil rebellion against it. We the People take everything that despotism dishes out. Our Declaration of Independence says that we are disposed to suffer, as habit. & here is a direct quote :" But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.".
As long as the American People are sitting down, taking what D.C. dishes out, is as long as decline continues, & grows deeper, & more deadly.
We the People must throw them off, or we are damned to h=ll.
nathan| 12.12.12 @ 8:20AM
Mr. Kaminski: I'm sorry but since WWII, we've had five GOP presidents. FIVE. Including one that was considered the greatest "conservative" of the post war era. And all of them at one time or another had at least one if not both houses under their control. And what did THEY do about regulatory reform? Tell your readers what the greatest conservative of our generation did to address the issues you write about here?
I'll tell you. NOTHING. Because even RR himself was not really a "conservative". Again like his mentors, WFB and National Review, he and the other GOP presidents were neocon to the core, interested only in foreign affairs, barely interested in domestic issues. And Romney would have been much the same way. Notice what he said, if Bibi calls, I'll come a running. Oh please. Ryan for the biggest expansion of Great Society since it was created. How serious was HE about really rolling it back? His proposal was to postpone action for nearly two decades.
No sir. Republicans for over a generation have "talked" it, they just never walk it. And honestly by their actions we shall know them. They have been neocons externally but domestically their actions, even Reagan himself tended to be more liberal in nature. And it won't change.
nathan| 12.12.12 @ 8:24AM
Sorry I meant to say Ryan VOTED for the biggest expansion of Great Society since it was created referring of course to his vote on Plan D which added two trillion to the debt. And Newt shilled for the plan. How exactly "conservative" was that on the part of either of them? Again, talk it all they want, but based on their actions? Not very. And as speaker what did Newt do to get rid of New Deal Great Society programs or address the issues in your article. Little or nothing. Basically an earlier version of Boehner.
Al Adab| 12.12.12 @ 11:24AM
nathan:
The final battle was fought, and lost, following the '94 election. The new GOP House, under Newt, had a hit list of over 1100 agencies to eliminate. Clinton and the "shut down" stopped it dead. The end.
aware| 12.12.12 @ 6:30PM
Newt, the infamous 3rd leg of "Triangulation".
aware| 12.12.12 @ 6:31PM
Funny how 2 of the 3 legs happened to be Republicans. "Conservative" Republicans.
jmulcahy1| 12.12.12 @ 9:48PM
Nathan,
You are historically wrong. Neither Nixon nor Ford had control of either houses of Congress during their administrations. So you can say 3 of the 5 GOP presidents blah, blah, blah.
jmulcahy1| 12.12.12 @ 9:58PM
Nathan,
Just gone back and checked. There have actually been 6 GOP Presidents since WWII. And only 3 of them had control of either house of Congress during their administrations. GHWB did not.
c. j. acworth| 12.12.12 @ 8:24AM
I'm tellin' ya people, freeze dried food and ammunition. In the coming inflation they will be as good as gold, if not better. And if I'm wrong and Helicopter Ben and those idiots in congress do not succeed in turning us into Wiemar Germany II, well, I can still eat the food and have fun with the ammo.
By the way, Mr. Kaminsky, I am, of course, buying the actual food and ammo, but you're an active trader. Any good plays in those areas? I'm always up for free investment advice.
aware| 12.12.12 @ 6:45PM
Fed announced today it would buy $40 Billion/month in treasury debt on top of the $45 bil/month buying MBS from the banks. Deficit for the 1st 2 months of fiscal '13 up 24% over last year. ZIRP to continue, too.
Millions will soon come to know extreme poverty and hardship like they can't imagine. Maybe even Kaminsky.
The Rulers know there are only so many lifeboats and are making sure the "right" people are in them. Now is the calm before the storm so those not slated for a lifeboat don't get panicked.
Of course the "Market" will go up temporarily as a result of this announced criminality, but in the end reality is going to beat the snot out of everybody.
Purp| 12.12.12 @ 6:58PM
Maybe we shouldn't have followed Reagan and Bush policies that got us here? Ya think?
Of course, Republicans count on the fact y'all ain't smart enough to figure it all out over 30 years.
So they fed you a false narrative that Government is bad, Unions are Evil, Democrats are the Enemy and the Media is Socialist, for you to swallow and if you do - they are home free!
When you finally see it, you will be oh so pissed... how they fooled you for so long, while your jobs, benefits and wages went away .. and it's somebody else's fault, not theirs!
Wait until you figure it out for yourself. You are NOT going to be happy.
aware| 12.13.12 @ 5:47AM
Yeah, Democrats like Jon Corzine who managed to make a few billion of his clients money vanish are certainly as pure as the driven snow, right? Globalist tools like Clinton and his NAFTA supporting cohorts didn't have anything to do with that off-shoring, they are "for working people", right?
You continue to believe you have "friends" in the political class and that there are 2 parties. A false "choice" gives you false hope. Your party is their party and you are as fooled as they. There will be no place for you in the lifeboat either. The icy water will be your blanket when the ship goes down.
Both wings of the Party of the State have done their part to bring on the catastrophe that is staring you in the face. As a typical partisan you delude yourself into believing you can hire a member of a criminal gang to protect you from the deprivations of the gang.
Quartermaster| 12.12.12 @ 8:52AM
The country was lost during the "War of Northern Aggression," or "The war To prevent Southern Independence," pick the one you like, either is more accurate than "Civil War" because the South had no intention of ruling the north. The country backed away from the radical Republicans, Jacobins all, but quite deleterious changes had been made that haunt us today.
The Federal Government was meant to have very little to do with domestic affairs. All they were empowered to do domestically was to defend the states against invasion, put down insurrection, and regulate interstate commerce. FedGov has no constitutional authority to provide a "safety net" or any other kind of entitlement program. The result of doing so is an increasing lawlessness among government agents, Judges, and the general population.
The basic problem we are facing now is the immorality of the younger generation. The GOP is on the verge of completely marginalizing its base in an effort to appeal to a larger portion of the population. In so doing, they will push away the people that got them the political victoes they've had over the last 40 years. When that is done, the GOP is finished and the country will be toast.
Frankly, I think the country is already finished as the tipping point was back in the 70s. None of teh 3 GOP POTUSs we've had since have done anything to roll back the welfare/warfare state which is breaking the country. We've now nearly arrived at the denouement. It isn't going to be pretty.
Nancy in NC| 12.12.12 @ 9:07AM
All the comments above have something very worthwhile to offer.
I think that a majority of the readers and posters here are more aware of what the real problems are than the morons in Washington.
They started throwing the Constitution under the bus while the ink was drying. Then we had the progressives like Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson come along and put their agenda on steroids. Thanks to Wilson at least 90% of the country thinks we are a democracy and have no inkling about the difference.
And the GOP is as much the problem as the Dimwits. And like nathan said above, even Reagan didn't knew what needed to be done. The Dept. of Education should have been returned to the states; it's gone steadily downhill since the Fed takeover.
nathan| 12.12.12 @ 9:27AM
At Nancy: Carter created 3 new cabinent level positions. Three new bureacracies. Three new agencies that could, did, and have written thousands of pages of regulations and killed forests of trees. If there was ever a time to eliminate them, it was in the succeeding adminstration before they got too entrenched. Reagan had a golden opportunity to address those three new agencies. Did he? Even ONE? NO. The GREAT CONSERVATIVE couldn't be bothered with boring domestic issues. He was too busy playing neocon foreign policy games. Again he was truly the product of his mentor, WFB and National Review. And if HE wasn't going to make an effort at addressing domestic issues, who was? Bush II and his "compassionate conservatism" which is just another name for liberalism added more to what Ross is talking about with Plan D. The Bush Administration was on record as saying they considered themselves above the law and the Constitution and proceeded to act like it.
The GOP in the postwar period nominated candidates that had no sense of what the Constitution said and had no intention of taking their oaths seriously. Ross is right here, but it's probably way too late to do anything about it. The next GOP president won't be any different than his predecessors.
Nancy in NC| 12.12.12 @ 12:32PM
Ozero is adding 100 federal jobs per day. Between those who work for the government and the morons who depend on the government to survive (welfare recipients) the rest of that number is barely larger then the combined other two. How long can that be sustained?
Purp| 12.12.12 @ 4:39PM
Public sector jobs, including Federal, have declined under Obama. by some 600,000.
Not so for Reagan's Recession, Clinton's and Bush's recessions either.
You don't know what you're talking about.
CJW| 12.12.12 @ 4:44PM
Purp the Village Idiot posted the following after the elections:
"Purp| 11.8.12 @ 10:35AM
"The Lord rules, not Obama." - CORRECT!
The Lord works in mysterious ways... and this is something for the faithful to contemplate in the way the see the world:
Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials."
So purpie believes God killed over 100 persons and destroyed millions of dollars of property to help Obama win.
In Sept Purpie wrote that Amassador Stevens was at fault and caused his death.
Purpie also wrote that the unborn are biological entities not deserving of protection until God allows them to be born. (What does this mean?)
Purpie represents the Loon Left that should be mocked and ridiculed, and not engaged in conversation
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Purp| 12.10.12 @ 10:41AM
All you're doing is spreading the true words that you don't like.
You are beyond stupid, purpie
Petronius| 12.12.12 @ 10:10AM
When I was a "liberal" in the days before growing up, I wanted what they claim as their birthright: an easy life style with no responsibilities. The world must be molded to their liking. All this regulation is to be imposed on their adversaries. That's all the adults who get put out and hobbled in order to make their pitiful lives palatable for Them. The liberal voter looks at everything and everyone in terms of how institutions or other people treat Them. As was said before in these pages: it's toddler lib. And now that the superannuated 3 year olds no longer must endure the onus of having to support themselves on our dime, They're down to the ultimate goal: forcing us to like it!!
The GOP leadership doesn't care because they have enough money to insulate themselves from all of it, which is typical. Nobody pays heed to to vicissitudes showing up at the neighbor's front doors.
Purp| 12.12.12 @ 4:37PM
if you can make it on your own and are so self-sufficient, why do you care what the government does or doesn't do?
Isn't it irrelevant in your life?
Petronius| 12.13.12 @ 12:16PM
You parasites turned the government into your support group that I am forced to pay for with MY Money. We could live twice as well as we do now if we were Allowed to Keep OUR Money. Abolish entitlements lest we all collapse under the weight of over taxation. If that happens, and there's nothing left to lose it's open season.
TeaPartyNow| 12.12.12 @ 10:43AM
The American People need to ALL rebel.
America today is a communist nation. A collectivist utopia. What does that mean? It means that government has everything, & can do anything it wants. It will take more & give back less, & where are the American People?
The American People as a power over governments do not exist. James Madison said that if people can't understand what the laws are, there can be no oversight. Today, the American People grasp nothing of the laws that we pay for.
So how can we rebel against tyranny? We can't.
& as long as the right tells us to lay down & take it, like Ross here, we all are going straight to h=ll.
Why don't you demand a civil rebellion by all Americans Ross? Are you afraid of liberty?
Irv Lipschitz| 12.12.12 @ 11:00AM
The Republicans cannot win this fight. They have neither the courage, commitment, ideas, selflessness, or common sense to do it. Rather than continuing CPR on the reeking, bloated corpse of the Republican Party, those with brains, muscle and commitment should create the alternative party that has no knee pads for sessions of bi-partisanship. Saving America will require a fight, not a bi-partisan orgy of political whores. Those willing to bring that fight should immediately abandon cowards like Rove, Boehner and all the other establishment slime that hoped to corral us in the bath house they run in San Francisco.
Why should we anoint ourselves with the stench of the Republican Party? When taking the field of combat, we should fill our packs with extra ammo not lip gloss and vaseline.
Jim Adcox| 12.12.12 @ 11:24AM
Bureaucracies excrete regulations. Taxpaying Americans are being buried in the feces of the Leviathan.
Petronius| 12.12.12 @ 12:10PM
Jim
Your sense of metaphor is jolting. But it doesn't register with Congress which exempts themselves from it all.
Nancy in NC| 12.12.12 @ 12:28PM
As someone who reads AS everyday and is pretty informed, I would love to hear some SOLUTIONS! I know only too well what the problems are, and they are so long and so varied that it's enough to make one seriously depressed.
I've got my weapons,ammo, 25 shelf life food, water, etc., but that seems like just preparing for the worst. Does everyone think there are no alternatives but to batten down the hatches?
TLP| 12.12.12 @ 2:49PM
There actually is a way to Walk, and Chew Gum at the same time, on this one.
Give Hamas' Deliverer what he wants on the Taxes on the Rich, but only with the following Condition.
He wants another $250 Billion Stimulus.
No way, and remind everyone what he did with the last Shovel Ready Infrastructure Jobs Stimulus.
Then get out there and tell the American People that you're doing this to prevent the Decimation of our National Defense, and Medicare. And say it every time you open your mouth, to exhale.
The Rich aren't Stupid. They will find their way around all this, and the Inevitable Economic Downturn will be laid at the feet of the Political Party with the Jackass as it's Symbol, and it's Leader, and his Second in Command.
This is the only way out of all this.
Trust Me.
Have I ever steered you wrong?
Nancy in NC| 12.12.12 @ 12:30PM
At our tea party board meeting on Monday, one member asked who was willing to give their lives for the cause. All hands were raised. Are we alone?
Purp| 12.12.12 @ 1:13PM
OMG, scare tactics again. The sky is falling...
The people have taken back the country and we're putting the Reagan and Bush Twins damage behind us. It will take time, but we're on our way. 4 more years of Obama and 8 years of Hillary will go a long way to putting the Neocon, Trickle-Down, All for the 1%, Tea Bagger nonsense behind us.
Supporting the 1% at the expense of the middle class has hurt this country terribly. We cannot allow the likes of Reagan back into office. We can't afford it - unless y'all really want to be SERFs, serving the KOCH Bros and their kind.
The latest assault on the Middle Class workers in Michigan will backfire and wake the sleeping giant for 2014. Wait and see. The "Right to Work for Less Laws" are just another propaganda win for the Corporatists killing Middle Class wages, while they pocket the millions.
the American People are finally understanding what the Super Rich, Corporate types have been up to, with your help of course, over the last 30 years. Once you all wake up too, they're reign will be over. Wake Up!
Louis Jenkins| 12.12.12 @ 1:33PM
Corporate America? Super Rich? Sounds like the who's who of the Democratic Party. Four more years of Obama and then 8 more of Hillary? Why do you laugh at the corporations when Hillary has already raked in the cash since before her and Bill where in the Ark. government? Don't deny it Purp. And Obama? Just wait until he gets out of office. He will really be in demand for public speaking. And how about his shady campaign collections? If he's still around after this four years. And you said Stevens put himself in harms way when his office requested more men and arms for security? Rice lied, Obama lied, and Gen. Leon had an affair. Why don't you take a couple of running leaps and go......
Purp| 12.12.12 @ 3:12PM
They can rake it in as fast as possible, just as long as they serve the American people with making their lives better, just not Corporate masters alone - like Republicans do. Republicans want you to believe you have to make it on your own - which is why Republicans want you to believe they are on your side... they are not, but you've been snockered.
They convinced you to 1) see the government as bad, 2) the media is against you 3) taxes are bad 4) Unions are evil and have to be destroyed, 5) they scream about voter fraud all the time, and 6) they and they alone are good for you.
1) But why do they want to run the government, if it's so BAD?
2)Why do they use the media to control you (they sure buy enough of it),
3) If taxes are so bad, why are your taxes higher than Mitt Romney's? Who's winning that game?
4) If Unions are so evil, why do Republican Governors protect Fire, Police Unions from "Right to Work" Laws?
5) Why did they pass Voter ID laws where there was no voter fraud to protect against? They didn't protect the voting machines which can easily be tampered with
6) Guess the American people have figured out who's side they are really on - but YOU haven't yet...
Oh, and YOU'RE a LOSER ... can't even beat the black man... you're so awful... hahahaha (that's for your last line, you wanna dish it out, then take it)
Louis Jenkins| 12.12.12 @ 5:01PM
A loser; let's see how many people associated with the Clinton clan have died?
Susan Coleman
Larry Guerrin
Kevin Ives
Don Henry
Keith Coney
Keith McKaskle
Gregory Collins
Jeff Rhodes
James Milam
Richard Winters
Jordan Kettleson
Alan Standorf
Dennis Eisman
Danny Casalaro
Victor Raiser
R. Montgomery Raiser
Paul Tully
Ian Spiro
Paula Gober
Jim Wilhite
Steve Willis
John Crawford
John Wilson
Paul Wilcher
Vincent Foster
Jon Parnell Walker
Stanley Heard
Steven Dickson
Jerry Luther Parks
Ed Willey
Gandy Baugh
Herschell Friday
Ronald Rogers
Kathy Furguson
Bill Shelton
Stanley Huggins
Paul Olson
Calvin Walraven
Alan G. Whicher
Duane Garrett
Ron Brown
Charles Meissner
William Colby
Lance Herndon
Neil Moody
Barbara Wise
Doug Adams
Mary C. Mahoney
Ronald Miller
Sandy Hume
Jim McDougal
Johnny Lawhon
Charles Wilbourne Miller
Carlos Ghigliotti
Tony Moser
These people were losers. In fact, they have been related to the Clintons in more ways than can be counted. Want the details of their deaths? I can furnish if needed.
Joellen| 12.12.12 @ 5:58PM
Add to the Clinton death list; those who died in the first bombing at the WTC; the American Soldiers at Mogadishu; WACO, etc.
Bill Clinton, someone so wisely said it here, the real war on woman.
Purp| 12.12.12 @ 7:03PM
Let's compare:
Bush - 9/11, Iraq and Afghan Wars, Katrina ...
Hmmmm, I'll take Clinton. Much less Death and Destruction on his watch.
Exactly what was your point?
CJW| 12.12.12 @ 7:51PM
Purp the Villager Idiot
Iraq and Afghan were approved by Congress, including Hillary.
Afghan war was escalated by Obama.
Sept 11 was the fault of Bubba. He failed to respond to WTC, Khobar Towers, two embassy attacks in Kenya and Tanganyika, USS Cole, had a wall between CIA and FBI to not share information, and ran away in Mogadishu. Yes, you would take Bubba.
Purp| 12.12.12 @ 7:01PM
What the hell does that list mean? What in the world has that do with anything? You're weird AND and LOSER.
CJW| 12.12.12 @ 7:55PM
Purp the Village Idiot
Now purpie descends into racism:
"Oh, and YOU'RE a LOSER ... can't even beat the black man... you're so awful... hahahaha (that's for your last line, you wanna dish it out, then take it)"
Can't even beat the "black man?" So you believe blacks are inferior and easy to beat.
Keep posting moron, you provide fresh material every day.
You are truly an idiot and a racist.
CJW| 12.12.12 @ 4:23PM
Purpie the Village Idiot's view of the unborn child:
"Purp| 11.7.12 @ 1:16PM
The unborn have no rights - they are biological entities until God allows them to be born."
Purp| 12.12.12 @ 7:01PM
OMG, scare tactics again. The sky is falling...
The people have taken back the country and we're putting the Reagan and Bush Twins damage behind us. It will take time, but we're on our way. 4 more years of Obama and 8 years of Hillary will go a long way to putting the Neocon, Trickle-Down, All for the 1%, Tea Bagger nonsense behind us.
Supporting the 1% at the expense of the middle class has hurt this country terribly. We cannot allow the likes of Reagan back into office. We can't afford it - unless y'all really want to be SERFs, serving the KOCH Bros and their kind.
The latest assault on the Middle Class workers in Michigan will backfire and wake the sleeping giant for 2014. Wait and see. The "Right to Work for Less Laws" are just another propaganda win for the Corporatists killing Middle Class wages, while they pocket the millions.
the American People are finally understanding what the Super Rich, Corporate types have been up to, with your help of course, over the last 30 years. Once you all wake up too, they're reign will be over. Wake Up!
CJW| 12.12.12 @ 4:45PM
Purp the Village Idiot posted the following after the elections:
"Purp| 11.8.12 @ 10:35AM
"The Lord rules, not Obama." - CORRECT!
The Lord works in mysterious ways... and this is something for the faithful to contemplate in the way the see the world:
Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials."
So purpie believes God killed over 100 persons and destroyed millions of dollars of property to help Obama win.
In Sept Purpie wrote that Amassador Stevens was at fault and caused his death.
Purpie also wrote that the unborn are biological entities not deserving of protection until God allows them to be born. (What does this mean?)
Purpie represents the Loon Left that should be mocked and ridiculed, and not engaged in conversation
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Purp| 12.10.12 @ 10:41AM
All you're doing is spreading the true words that you don't like.
You are beyond stupid, purpie
Purp| 12.12.12 @ 7:02PM
OMG, scare tactics again. The sky is falling...
The people have taken back the country and we're putting the Reagan and Bush Twins damage behind us. It will take time, but we're on our way. 4 more years of Obama and 8 years of Hillary will go a long way to putting the Neocon, Trickle-Down, All for the 1%, Tea Bagger nonsense behind us.
Supporting the 1% at the expense of the middle class has hurt this country terribly. We cannot allow the likes of Reagan back into office. We can't afford it - unless y'all really want to be SERFs, serving the KOCH Bros and their kind.
The latest assault on the Middle Class workers in Michigan will backfire and wake the sleeping giant for 2014. Wait and see. The "Right to Work for Less Laws" are just another propaganda win for the Corporatists killing Middle Class wages, while they pocket the millions.
the American People are finally understanding what the Super Rich, Corporate types have been up to, with your help of course, over the last 30 years. Once you all wake up too, they're reign will be over. Wake Up!
CJW| 12.12.12 @ 7:51PM
"Purp| 11.8.12 @ 10:35AM
"The Lord rules, not Obama." - CORRECT!
The Lord works in mysterious ways... and this is something for the faithful to contemplate in the way the see the world:
Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials."
So purpie believes God killed over 100 persons and destroyed millions of dollars of property to help Obama win.
In Sept Purpie wrote that Amassador Stevens was at fault and caused his death.
Purpie also wrote that the unborn are biological entities not deserving of protection until God allows them to be born. (What does this mean?)
Purpie represents the Loon Left that should be mocked and ridiculed, and not engaged in conversation
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Purp| 12.10.12 @ 10:41AM
All you're doing is spreading the true words that you don't like.
You are beyond stupid, purpie
Ross Kaminsky| 12.13.12 @ 6:02AM
Purp,
Your views are not in favor of the "right to work for more" but rather the right to be unemployed. Data is VERY clear on the more rapid growth in employment in right-to-work states.
You leftists act as if employers are amoeba who barely react to their environments, and will stay where they are regardless of the competitive environment. But even amoeba react more than you expect businessmen to.
You simply have no understanding of economics, of how the world really works.
Nice to see you serving George Soros, Pat Stryker "and their kind."
Louis Jenkins| 12.12.12 @ 1:22PM
Wow, Nancy, sounds like your board meetings are getting fiesty, or have reached the moment of truth. Most of us here are against what is going on, and we want to live, but when the government is riding rough shod over the people, indeed, there must come a time to standup and be counted. Tea Party member, or plain old conservative, we are upset with the comings and goings of Obama's DC. Keep stocking up. Keep putting back food and water, and ammo. It will one day be needed, and as aluded to above, more valuable than gold. "He who doesn't have a sword, let him sell his cloak and go buy one."
Purp| 12.12.12 @ 3:28PM
Oh, I see, a vaginal ultrasound probe and treating gays as second class citizens and eliminating collective bargaining for workers with their own company management - that ISN'T a tyrannical Government, riding rough shod over the people?
Or could it be you don't care about THOSE things because you aren't a woman, gay or worker? I see...
Time the Golden Rule is reversed ... those with the gold DON"T make the rules for everyone else. And we have taken back our country to kick the 1% a** lickers out of the government.
CJW| 12.12.12 @ 4:24PM
Purpie the Village Idiot's view of the unborn child:
"Purp| 11.7.12 @ 1:16PM
The unborn have no rights - they are biological entities until God allows them to be born."
Purp| 12.12.12 @ 4:36PM
Oh, I see, a vaginal ultrasound probe and treating gays as second class citizens and eliminating collective bargaining for workers with their own company management - that ISN'T a tyrannical Government, riding rough shod over the people?
Or could it be you don't care about THOSE things because you aren't a woman, gay or worker? I see...
Time the Golden Rule is reversed ... those with the gold DON"T make the rules for everyone else. And we have taken back our country to kick the 1% a** lickers out of the government.
CJW| 12.12.12 @ 4:43PM
Purp the Village Idiot posted the following after the elections:
"Purp| 11.8.12 @ 10:35AM
"The Lord rules, not Obama." - CORRECT!
The Lord works in mysterious ways... and this is something for the faithful to contemplate in the way the see the world:
Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials."
So purpie believes God killed over 100 persons and destroyed millions of dollars of property to help Obama win.
In Sept Purpie wrote that Amassador Stevens was at fault and caused his death.
Purpie also wrote that the unborn are biological entities not deserving of protection until God allows them to be born. (What does this mean?)
Purpie represents the Loon Left that should be mocked and ridiculed, and not engaged in conversation
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Purp| 12.10.12 @ 10:41AM
All you're doing is spreading the true words that you don't like.
You are beyond stupid, purpie
Ronsch| 12.12.12 @ 2:30PM
But Ross, don't you know it is all good? MSLSD swears stocks are up due to a "new stimulus."
Stop being a scaremonger...Sorry, could not resist!
Simon Templar| 12.12.12 @ 2:34PM
Many in this thread echo exactly the same mentality that the author, the great non-conservative libertarian, is proclaiming, 'prepare for the worst."
This is typical and the EXACT reason why this will continue and all will be lost in time. It is never a response of 'Prepare to Fight!' We capitulate even in the face of others capitulations.
When Bush was reelected in 2004, liberals were saying the EXACT same things conservatives are saying now..all is lost, the public are a bunch of morons, liberalism and its causes are dead, how stupid can people be, 'I am leaving the country.' Remember anything of that?
What happened in 2006? What happened in 2008?
Simon Templar| 12.12.12 @ 2:43PM
They reorganized, refocused, and came raging back.
What do we do? We prepare for the worst...and bend over, and hope for a slim chance that just maybe, just maybe, something will happen that will magically wake people up and turn it all around.
At this point, I seriously do not know why the Left just does not take full complete and central control and push this Republic right over. Who is there to stop them? Kaminsky?
Al Adab| 12.12.12 @ 3:49PM
Saint:
They also told us repeatedly that, "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." We would do well to remember.
Simon Templar| 12.12.12 @ 6:59PM
You get it, Al. One of the few.
cicero| 12.12.12 @ 2:50PM
The fight can be won. However, not if the conseervatives keep worrying about what the press thinks about them. If the Repubs cave on this, they will have about one day of praise, and then the name calling and blame will start again, pushing for the next give away. If the Repubs actually articulate their principles, and fight for them, the people will follow. Have we all forgotten the Reagan years? Something about not being able to fool all of the people all of the time.
Datsun 2000 Mark| 12.12.12 @ 4:00PM
Ross,
We just went thru the *Electability* type and lost. There is two models to look that would attract voters:
Ronald Reagan Type plus......
Jesse Ventura (when he ran as a Liberarian not how he governed). Venture defeated 2 establishment pols democrat and Repub and was clear about supporting *liberty* and not spending money. He won. There is a guy out there whom may fill this criteria....and he is from Ohio.
bison cookie| 12.12.12 @ 5:17PM
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Thom| 12.12.12 @ 6:41PM
Nothing is going to keep us from falling into an Abyss as long as the following is true:
It is legal to confiscate income/wealth from one citizen to give to another (without repayment); It is legal to relieve one citizen of a tax burden and transfer that to others while limiting one's power at the polls to those that have no skin in the game.
Regardless of the mechanism, Karl Marx progressive income tax, National Sales tax (VAT after the fact), or Flat tax (rate), all these to different degrees transfer wealth from one citizen to another and create interest groups/voting blocks around those who pay vs. those who receive the benefits of such wealth transfer.
This nation was implemented as a "republic” which carries with that certain inalienable rights not the least of which is equal treatment under the law and tax law cannot be exempt from that concept if the "republic" is to survive. While the majority plays lip service to the concept that we are still a "republic", one with a Constitution no less that states the limits of government's reach, in practice we have long been a "democracy" with just the trappings of a "republican form of government" as a relic.
Thom| 12.12.12 @ 6:42PM
Once you go down this egalitarian outcome path someone's ox is going to get gored eventually. As is usually the case the vast majority of citizens suffer when this ponzi scheme finally collapses. No "democracy" has ever voted itself out of this suicide pact. Too many people have a vested interest in keeping the ponzi scheme going for as long as they can benefit from it.. ...
And then it ends ugly.
WaffenSS| 12.14.12 @ 8:49AM
yes it does get ugly and yes it will get ugly
Simon Templar| 12.12.12 @ 7:01PM
WAR! - Breitbart. That is the correct response, not this whining and navel gazing.
Toinfinityandbeyond| 12.12.12 @ 10:46PM
Get rid of Bo(eh)ner!
Get rid of Mitch the B!t(h.
Get rid of Lying Ryan.
Get rid of Mitt-ard Romney.
Oh! wait! He is already gone. :)
Get rid of Christie.
Get rid of DeMint.
Oh! wait! He is already gone for more money. :)
Get rid of FAUX.
Get rid of BRAINFART.
Get rid of Tea Beggers.
Get rid of GOP.
Done!
Marc Jeric| 12.13.12 @ 2:33AM
All of that is too little too late. Running decent RINO's like McCain and Romney is a suicide. They never mentioned the marxist-racist past of Mullah Obama (Davis, Wright, Ayers); no mention by Romney of the two murder coverups (Fast & Furious, Benghazi); no mention of the real cause of the financial meltdown (Community Re-investment Act), etc. In 2016 we shall end up with the permanent United Socialist States of America. All energy companies will be nationalized - oil & gas, coal mines, transportation companies, electric utilities, etc.