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By on 11.20.12 @ 6:08AM

Would the Congressional Black Caucus be defending Susan Rice if her first name were Condoleezza?

Last Friday, Ohio Congresswoman Marcia Fudge made a most demagogic debut as the newly elected Chair of the Congressional Black Caucus. During a press conference, the three-term Democrat from the Buckeye state’s 11th District criticized Senator John McCain for his criticisms of UN Ambassador Susan Rice:

There is a clear, a clear in my opinion, sexism and racism that goes with these comments that are being made by, unfortunately, Senator McCain and others.

For good measure, Fudge also said, “It is a shame that anytime something goes wrong, they pick on women and minorities.”

Why yes, of course, that’s exactly why McCain criticized Rice. McCain can’t possibly be criticizing Rice because she made erroneous statements about the September 11th attacks in Benghazi on behalf of the Obama Administration. What other reason would McCain have for criticizing Rice other than she’s black and a woman?

John McCain can be accused of many things. Being racist and sexist isn’t amongst them. Unfortunately, McCain can’t win for trying. Remember during the 2008 presidential race when McCain called Georgia Congressman and civil rights icon John Lewis one of his three greatest heroes at Rick Warren’s Saddleback Forum? And how did Lewis repay McCain’s kindness? He compared him to George Wallace.

So if Lewis can muddy the waters after McCain pays him a compliment, then what’s to stop Fudge from, well, fudging things further, when McCain dares offer a criticism? Given her dual accusations of racism and sexism, one could argue she’s double fudging matters. Should President Obama appoint Rice his next Secretary of State, you can be sure that Fudge will cry racism and sexism like fudge on rice.

Of course, Fudge is hardly alone here. Enter Rep. Gwen Moore, a Democrat from Wisconsin’s 4th District and also a member of the Congressional Black Caucus. Moore said:

To batter this woman because they don’t feel they have the ability to batter President Obama is something we the women are not going to stand by and watch.

Now if McCain or any other Republican were to “batter” President Obama, Moore would be the first to cry racism against McCain for having the temerity to criticize Obama. Naturally, Moore wants to have her fudge and eat it too.

It never ceases to amaze how any criticism of a black public official by a white public official must be motivated solely by race. It also never ceases to amaze how any criticism of a female public official by a male public official must be motivated solely by gender. If the public official in question happens to be both black and female, then all bets are off.

Does it ever occur to those who cry racism and sexism that the criticism might actually motivated by something that black and/or female public official has said and/or done? Of course it doesn’t because those who cry racism and sexism believe that said black and female public officials are beyond criticism in the first place.

Well, actually that’s not entirely true. All things considered, not all grains of race are created equal — at least in the eyes of the Congressional Black Caucus. When was the last time the Congressional Black Caucus stuck up for Condoleezza Rice? When was the last time the Congressional Black Caucus characterized Condi Rice’s critics as racist and sexist?

I won’t keep you in suspense. The Congressional Black Caucus never defended Condi Rice.

Come to think of it, where is the Congressional Black Caucus regarding Allen West? If West were a liberal Democrat, the Congressional Black Caucus would make his recount their top priority. They would be crying fraud and minority voter suppression. But since West is a conservative, Tea Party activist, they won’t give him the time of day. The fact that West joined the Congressional Black Caucus shortly after being elected to Congress in 2010 apparently doesn’t count for anything. It could very well be said that the Congressional Black Caucus treats West as the black sheep of their family.

If we reach the day that the Congressional Black Caucus can treat Susan Rice and Condi Rice the same, then we will have turned a corner in our country’s political discourse. Yet somehow I don’t think the Congressional Black Caucus is going to jump on this like fudge on rice anytime soon.

About the Author

Aaron Goldstein writes from Boston, Massachusetts.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (120) |

spike59| 11.20.12 @ 6:26AM

i'm not ready to lose any sleep over the babblings of any of the waterheads in the Kongressional blacK Kaucus

Mike in N.C.| 11.20.12 @ 10:10AM

Kongressional blacK Kaucus. Clever fellow. Did you think this all by yourself or did you lift it from some Ayan Nation website?

loulou| 11.20.12 @ 11:10AM

Don't you get it, lefty?

Mike in N.C.| 11.20.12 @ 5:17PM

Yes, but clearly you don't.

Liberty4x4| 11.20.12 @ 11:19AM

Mike in N.C....are you being paid by the liberal progressive special interest to be on this comment site? You sure have a lot to say and, yet, say absolutely nothing, just like your sister DWS. Also, if you are going to endlessly bloviate liberal talking points learn to spell; its Aryan, not Ayan.

Mike in N.C.| 11.20.12 @ 5:20PM

My bad on typo. Since this entire site is dedicated to bloviating without saying anything, I didn't realize I was doing anything wrong.

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 4:32PM

I don't think Spike is capable of thinking for himself, Mike, so your latter suspicion is probably korrect.

spike59| 11.21.12 @ 5:36AM

ralphie, ralphie, there you go again...didn't mommy have the little talk with you about 'projecting' the last time she dropped a bag of cheetos down the cellar stairs?

spike59| 11.21.12 @ 5:34AM

you truly are a 'special' kind of 'tard, aren't you?

Progressive dolt (but i repeat myself)

Ralph Novy| 11.24.12 @ 2:02PM

Well, you know, Spike, I'm special enough of a "tard" to know how to spell, capitalize and punctuate in the English language.

Part of growing older and more informed is realizing how much one doesn't know and resolving not to jump to unfair and unkind conclusions about one's fellow human beings.

Ralph Novy| 11.24.12 @ 2:08PM

I wouldn't be so harsh with you, except that you began the comments on this article with such a particularly stupid and arrogant one.

Don't do that.

Learn. Be nicer. It does pay off.

Joellen| 11.20.12 @ 6:32AM

Fudge and her ilk are A Students of Saul Alinsky and have mastered the technique of exploiting and accusing anyone who stands in their way of "transforming" this country, and this has been going on for over 50 years. Turn the table back on them folks. Change the narrative to fit your argument - see CJW he does it perfectly!

Sad news - Congressman Allen West just conceded the race to Murphy. Here's a BLACK, Conservative Tea Party American - well as Mr. Goldstein just inferred, HERO WEST is worth not a lick to these hypocrites. West is NO Jessie Jackson Jr., Marion Barry, Charlie Rangle, etc. so they arent out there pounding their chests for justice for him, can you spell Black Racism?

Pecos Pete| 11.20.12 @ 7:03AM

Black Racism? You gotta be kidding. Could never happen. Nah.

59 Philadelphia precincts registered no votes for Mitt Romney, 100% for King O. In Cleveland where King O won at least 99 percent of the vote in more than 100 precincts and 16 precincts where Mitt Romney won no votes at all. 37 Chicago precincts voted 100% for King O. Etc.

Move along, no black racism to see. No fraud either.

Mike in N.C.| 11.20.12 @ 10:33AM

Being human, some of our fellow citizens who are black exhibit some of the same less desirable behavior that some of our fellow citizen who happen to be white exhibit. We're all shocked, right?

Tom Kyba| 11.20.12 @ 11:23AM

Careful professor. You almost admitted something there. Don't want to lose your bigoted leftist bonafides now.

Mike in N.C.| 11.20.12 @ 6:42PM

Prepared to follow suit and lose your bigoted rightist bonadides?

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 4:35PM

Not true.

Look it up.

Sheesh.

Do you really believe ANY outrageous b.s. that ANYONE tells you when you want to believe it?

CJW| 11.20.12 @ 11:47AM

Joellen

Susan Rice and the Caucus should be upset with Obama because Obama used Rice to peddle their "video" dog and pony show.

Hillary and Panetta were the logical persons to explain the attack since their departments were intimately involved. But they probably refused to go along with the White House story line, and Obama then got Susan Rice, who probably believed what she read on the talking points.

And Obama got a two-fer, a black woman to lie for him so he could accuse Reps of picking on a black woman. This has Axelrod's campaign mode all over it.

Seek| 11.20.12 @ 9:57PM

Typically self-deluded deracination. You fail to see Marcia Fudge as a black first, second and last. It's about race, not "liberal" ideology. Instead of looking for the rare right-of-center black to carry the GOP torch, how about it if the party reached out to whites for a change?

As for Allen West, he'll have a fairly lucrative radio talk show host slot -- if he wants it. He has no future in politics. He's a nasty crank, a one-shot deal. He's of no more significance than Alan Keyes.

spike59| 11.21.12 @ 5:38AM

It's about race, not "liberal" ideology.
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you can't have liberal ideology WITHOUT race...

Stephie| 11.20.12 @ 7:37AM

This makes me sick. The women's movement has said for YEARS that a woman can do any mans job and should be treated EQUALLY. With that Ms Fudge, comes accountability and responsibility but then it seems if you are half black and have a vagina, and someone points out that you are wrong, you're being picked on.
If you can't hang with the big dogs gals, get off the effing porch!
This was insulting to ALL women who work hard to get into positions of power and shame on this race baiter.

Robert Nowall | 11.20.12 @ 7:40AM

Up till Barack Obama mouthed off about it, I didn't know Susan Rice was black...I *did* know she lied in public. What does one have to do with the other?

Russel| 11.20.12 @ 8:00AM

Nor did I know Jarrett was either , till recently . But who's surprised ? . Our milk chocolate ElPresidente' just likes surrounding himself with those from the same batch . Fudge , now that's rich .

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 4:37PM

And you don't perceive that as one little bit "racist," do you, Russel?

Seek| 11.20.12 @ 10:00PM

We ought to give the word "racist" a permanent vacation. Every time conservatives use it, we unwittingly ratify the Left's main premise that racism is somehow bad. I dissent here. What is called "racism" isn't bad. It's nothing more than an acknowledgement of reality.

Ralph Novy| 11.24.12 @ 1:08PM

Of course that's just foul racism cloaked in pseudo-scientific clothing (The "Bell Curve," for example).

Modern anthropologists talk about various human "variants" or "species" or "subspecies," not "races," because the latter term is so ambiguous and been much abused.

ElGordo| 11.20.12 @ 8:09AM

Those were 4 White guys that were killed because of this administration. Was that racism ?

Albert Constantine Jr.| 11.20.12 @ 1:29PM

It has been reported that one (Stevens) was gay. Does that make the Obama administration homophobic, or was denying assistance a hate crime (a sort of passive / aggressive gay bashing)?

spike59| 11.21.12 @ 5:40AM

so was Brian Terry, come to think about it...so what IS it with the ObaMao administration killing whites?

Ralph Novy| 11.24.12 @ 1:09PM

They were all albinos?!

Wow. That's odd.

c. j. acworth| 11.20.12 @ 8:16AM

Like the sign at the TEA Party rallies says; "It doesn't matter what my sign says, you'll still call me a racist!"

Mike in N.C.| 11.20.12 @ 10:11AM

But, some of the signs are racist.

John Navratil| 11.20.12 @ 1:01PM

Mike in N.C.,

Tell me about these Democrats:

William Fulbright, Orval Faubus, Robert Byrd, Lester Maddox, Herbert Talmadge, Lyndon Johnson

I guess that pretty well damns the whole Democrat party doesn't it.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 11.20.12 @ 1:30PM

...Woodrow "Birth of a Nation" Wilson...

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 4:39PM

Yeah.

A so-called "liberal."

Total bullshit.

Roosevelt was the liberal, if anybody was.

John Navratil| 11.20.12 @ 7:01PM

Ralph Novy,

Right you are - take a prize! Wilson was a Progressive. That's different, isn't it? Interestingly, he ran against FDR.

Ralph Novy| 11.24.12 @ 1:13PM

No, Wilson was NOT a "progressive."

Teddy and Bobby (La Follette) were the progressives at the time, if anybody at that level was.

Wilson was a poseur -- someone who tried to make a lot of hay out of the "Democrat" label but really just reflected the racist, reactionary policies of the Democrats of the 19th Century.

spike59| 11.21.12 @ 5:43AM

ralphie, you talk as is being a liberal somehow precludes one from being a racist; on the contrary, you can't BE a 'modern liberal' without being a racist

Ralph Novy| 11.24.12 @ 1:14PM

Never said anything of the sort, Spike -- although I would tend to think most self-described liberals are somewhat less racist than self-described conservatives.

Mike in N.C.| 11.20.12 @ 6:44PM

Sure right after we talk about the Southern Strategy and how you Republicans stole all of the Demoratic Party's racists.

John Navratil| 11.20.12 @ 6:52PM

Mike in N.C.

Explain that myth to me, if you can. Strom Thurmond is the only southern segregationist to move to the Republican party. George Wallace became an Independant Party member. You are rewriting history.

John Navratil| 11.20.12 @ 6:53PM

Mike in N.C.

Now show me the racist Tea Party member in Congress. Surely there must be some.

Ralph Novy| 11.24.12 @ 1:16PM

Jim DeMint and Ron Johnson, notably, in the Senate.
Bunch of yahoos in the House.

Warrior| 11.20.12 @ 8:31PM

So the attacks on Allen West, Clarence Thomas, Stacey Dash was from the racists the Republican party failed to steal? Racism and sexism are very weak arguments that appeal to those with limited abilities of independent thought. I only attack you because you're an asshole. If you're black, guess what, you're still an asshole.

soljerblue| 11.21.12 @ 5:23AM

You left out George Wallace

Cynical Observer| 11.21.12 @ 11:34PM

Al Gore's dad. Filibustered against the Civil Rights Act.

Joellen| 11.20.12 @ 6:06PM

PROVE IT MIKE IN N.C. LIKE ALL LIBERALS, YOU LIE!

However, proof is out there that Obama, Hillary, Biden, Pelosi, all are BABY HATERS - they advocate not just here, but throughout the world, ABORTION. Explain to me how Abortion spells LOVE Mike in N.C and I'll explain to you how it spells not just Hatred for the unborn baby, but MURDER!

spike59| 11.21.12 @ 5:41AM

the current definition of 'racist' being, of course, 'anything or anyone opposing ObaMao'

Von Mises Jr| 11.20.12 @ 8:17AM

Obama and Fudge are the result of socialism and racism that are similar in that neither is based on merit but only on rising the inept to equality with the successful. Without "voting for revenge" for affirmative action incompetents, these people could not compete.
I had the pleasure to meet Allan West whom is a great man. The left hates him because he is not a product of racism and affirmative action. Ask any non-politician liberal who Dr. Thomas Sowell or Dr. Walter E. Williams is and they would not have a clue. It is because they did not become central figures due to socialism and racism. They are great men that achieved it all on their own.

The left does this same tactic with everything: it is called projection. Obama, Lewis and Marcia fudged their way to the top and now they must undermine anyone of color that did it legitimately.
BTW, now that Obama is re-elected, are we going to see his "affirmative action" transcripts from Harvard? I suspect he got straight "A's" in "Women's Studies," "Gay and Lesbian Studies" and the "Evils of Colonialism."

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 4:42PM

Okay. You think you know what "projection" is.

Now apply that concept honestly.

Gary B| 11.20.12 @ 8:18AM

The most important and revealing word in Obama's campaign was "revenge." On the most basic, emotional level, that word (an action word) connected with every person in the Democrat base who thinks that they've ever been a victim of the establishment. Even if they don't think of themselves as a victim, they identify with the concept of revenge, even if their target is vague.

From a pure technical standpoint, the use of that word has to be one of the most successful marketing decisions in American history.

To counter that, it should be a priority of every Republican candidate, who isn't a political traitor (RINO), to rub his or her Democrat opponent's nose in it - real hard. I'd label them hate mongers every chance I got and refer to Obama's divisive revenge strategy as proof of their genetic hatred of everything America stands for.

Revenge for what? Doing well in a free market and creating employment? Being white? Being a legal citizen? Not forking over every last, hard-earned cent? Give me a break. I'd rub their nose in all of it. They are vulnerable on this.

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 4:44PM

Wrong -- on everything -- of course, Gary.

"Genetic hatred of everything America stands for."

Uh-huh.

And YOU speak for America, right?

Uh-huh.

Now go take a nap and/or a pill.

Al Adab| 11.20.12 @ 8:37AM

To answer directly, no they would not. It does however prove that delusional leftism trumps even racism. Shouldn't we consider that a step in the right direction? All the race baiting from the Left only proves that the true racists are those who pretend to view every issue through that prism.

spike59| 11.21.12 @ 5:44AM

"delusional leftism amounts to racism."
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there, fixed it for ya

Mike in N.C.| 11.20.12 @ 8:55AM

Speaking of Condolezza, Aaron, thank you for reminding all of the Romnesiacs of Colin Powell's appearance before the U.N. prior to our invasion of Iraq for.... what was the reason again? Oh, yes. That's right. Now I recall Condi's mushroom cloud speech. WMD. Benghazi was a tragedy. Iraq has been a disaster initiated by a fool named W who was under the sway of clowns labeled neo-cons who were cheered on by people like you. So why is this little campaign of your's Aaron? Some misguided attempt at atonement?

Al Adab| 11.20.12 @ 10:18AM

Mikie:
Apparently you do not recall, or choose not to remember, that the Iraq invasion was authorized by an overwhelming vote of Congress. There were many types of precursor WMDs found. Where the operation went wrong was in the "nation building" aspect of the post war operations. That is a Wilsonian concept and was opposed at the time by the movement Conservatives. They, unlike The Left, do not believe their Presidents walk on water.

BTW Benghazi is not a tragedy, it is an example of ineptitude by this administration which purposely refuses to recognize that there are indeed enemies of this country who seek to do us harm.

Mike in N.C.| 11.20.12 @ 10:43AM

Who are the people being taken out by our drone attacks? Friends?

From the Economist: "At the most fundamental level, the reason it is absurd to suspect the existence of a cover-up over the Benghazi attack is that such a cover-up could not have had any conceivable goal. "

Except in the fevered minds of the extreme right and bitter politicians such as McCain.

Al Adab| 11.20.12 @ 12:49PM

Nowhere did I use the term cover-up. Nonetheless, when the president spoke at the U N he went on about the video as well. They threw Ms Rice under the bus and refused to acknowledge the terrorist aspect of the attack. The only motivation would be to kick the can down the road past election day.

Oh and good on the drone attacks, but that didn't help the consolate much did it?

Mike in N.C.| 11.20.12 @ 6:46PM

Be careful. Right wing orthodoxy says there is a cover-up. You may have to go to re education camp.

Alej| 11.20.12 @ 9:26AM

Parity in intelligence quotient isn't in the genes, but apparently a proclivity for whining is Nature's way of trying to compensate.

Stormy| 11.20.12 @ 9:38AM

Herein lies the problem with affirmative action hiring, or electing, whichever. If you hire a black person through affirmative action, you can never fire them for lack of performance. You are a racist if you do not hire them, and you are a racist your fire them. A good gig if you can get it.

Anthony| 11.20.12 @ 9:44AM

We have lost the culture when the morons in the Congressional Black Caucus scream that any criticism of Obozo or Rice is racism.
Never mind that these two people have attained the highest offices in the land and are responsible for the fate of this country and us as citizens, since the are black and leftists, they are immune from criticism.
So they can destroy America, and our lives, but we cannot hold them responsible for their actions because of affirmative action. This is what the cancer of leftism has done to America.
Of course if Rice was Condolleezza, the Black Caucus would be silent, as would the NOW gang.
Our culture is indeed sick, and leftism is the disease. Only drastic measures can save us.

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 4:51PM

Yes, drastic measures are needed to save "us/you."

Pile onto rafts and paddle yourselves to somewhere where the evils of affirmative action and gender equity won't affect you.

How about Wrangel Island? That's where the last of the woolly mammoths went extinct, apparently, so perhaps it's appropriate that that's where the last of the hairy, knuckle-dragging racists go extinct too, eh?

Bob Grant| 11.20.12 @ 9:47AM

These people, and I refer to them as "these people" because they choose to caucus as Blacks (how very Martin Luther King of them), are as predictable as my black lab. Who here didn't expect the CBC to react to McGraham's negative (and accurate) comments about Susan Rice?

They have a script and simply cannot stray from it.

The only question is why?

(A) Because they are ordered not to?
...and if so, by whom?

or

(B) They don't have the intellectual capacity to do otherwise?

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 4:53PM

All aboard to Wrangel Island, Bob!

Gary B| 11.20.12 @ 10:18PM

Hey, Bob... this guy, Ralph Novy, is ass over tea kettle in love with Obama. He doesn't like it when we criticize him or his base of anti-American, free loader dumb asses. I'm pleased to be in the company of you and Anthony.

Bob Grant| 11.20.12 @ 10:55PM

Gary B,

I appreciate the kind words.

This Novy character, as well as others, prefer snark over substance.

I just dare him to defend the indefensible - the CBC. A worthless, racist group of people that you'll ever find.

Bob Grant| 11.20.12 @ 10:57PM

that would be THE most worthless, racist, group of people that you'll ever find.

spike59| 11.21.12 @ 5:46AM

you assume that novy is free to CHOOSE substance; sorry, but that would entail a functioning mind, and ralphie wasn't exactly...'created' that way

Ralph Novy| 11.24.12 @ 1:21PM

Last call, boys!

I'd remind you: you won't have to deal with any dark-skinned folks on Wrangel Island. Even the bears are white!

C'mon! Get a few cases of bourbon and hop on board the raft.

Bye, bye!!!!

Ralph Novy| 11.24.12 @ 1:55PM

Aw. Ain't that heart-warming.

"I'm pleased to be in the company of you and Anthony."

Group hug?

Occam's Tool| 11.20.12 @ 9:54AM

Why are we expecting anything from Liberals in the way of intellectual consistency?

Mike in N.C.| 11.20.12 @ 10:08AM

Probably for the same reason we don't expect anything from righties in the way of intellectual consistency.

John Navratil| 11.20.12 @ 1:03PM

Mike in N.C.,

Got to hand it to you, you ARE consistent.

Mike in N.C.| 11.20.12 @ 6:48PM

As are you, John, as are you.

spike59| 11.21.12 @ 5:47AM

consistently wrong, of course...but, i guess, for a Progressive, that's good enough for a 'participation medal'

Drunken Sailor| 11.20.12 @ 3:33PM

intellectual consistency?

Black Congressional caucus
Black Miss America Pagent
Black Entertainment TV
Black racial quota's in college admissions
Black racial quota's in hiring programs

Yet, if we started a white Congressional caucus, entertaimnet network or anything else for that matter we would be racisist. Talk about intellectual inconsistencies.

Warrior| 11.20.12 @ 8:40PM

You left off Black Sabbath, Johnny Walker Black, Bethpage Black, Black Hills, Black Sea, Black Eyed Peas, Clint Black, Shirley Temple Black, Black Jack, black licorice and the up and coming Black Friday. I have designated all these code words.

sickofit5| 11.20.12 @ 10:51AM

We finally have equality in positions that minorities now serve, all the way up to SOS, UN Ambassador, President and Congress and they don't really like it. You see, we have several generations of minorities that have been brought up to believe that any perceived and criticized lack of ability was always because of their minority status and not because of their true ability (in many instances that was true). Because of who we are and our desire to do what is right we now live in an age where one could come away from 8 hrs of media bombardment (tv, music, movies, professional athletics) with the impression that blacks make up a significant portion of our population and not the 12.3% that they actually do. Our perception of blacks in this country has changed to where we recognize the person and not the race. For many black's their perception of white's as racist have not changed. For others it is convenient and effect to scream racism when they know it isn't and they know they have a willing MSM to echo their claims. Because of this we have become more balkanized than ever. Look at black youth who seem to come out of k-12 educational system with a chip on their shoulder. Their churches and leaders inflame their perception of whites in this country. Accusations of racism remain because it remains an effective tool to mute legitimate criticism of a minority's performance.

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 4:56PM

You make a powerful case for affirmative action without even knowing it, sickofit.

sickofit5| 11.20.12 @ 7:10PM

I would disagree. If affirmative action results in promoting one group over another and then allows that group a mantra of hate everytime their performance is questioned then I would say that affirmative action is definitely not a could thing. Do we not reach a point when a affirmative action should be discontinued? I say we have well passed that point.

Ralph Novy| 11.24.12 @ 1:23PM

And I say we're not even close to that point.

The fact that an utterly dishonest (but "white") punk like Romney could come so close to the presidency is proof-positive.

Seek| 11.20.12 @ 10:02PM

You unwittingly give the Left just the ammo they're looking for, Sickofit. Ditch the Breitbart; you need a shot of the late Sam Francis. That was a real patriot.

sickofit5| 11.20.12 @ 11:09AM

One last thought. I laughed when all of the talking heads talked about living in a post racial US after Barry's election back in 2008 because so many whites voted to put him in office. I laughed because it was a big lie propagated by the same MSM folks who cover and lie for Barry now. The way to figure out if we live in a post racial country is to see how often a white candidate gets more support from blacks than a black candidate does when running against a white candidate. I would venture to say it doesn't happen very often.

Ralph Novy| 11.24.12 @ 1:25PM

"Post-racial U.S."?

I agree that whoever said that was a fool and/or liar.

loulou| 11.20.12 @ 11:12AM

Is it racist to say that Fudge looks and sounds like the Obamaphone parasite?

Ralph Novy| 11.24.12 @ 1:26PM

I don't know -- because I have no idea what that means.

LMAO.

Write in Standard English, if you can, please.

Tom Kyba| 11.20.12 @ 11:26AM

"I am woman hear me roar"! Oh wait, the sh**'s hitting the fan. Waah waah leave me alone, I'm just a girl. In fact, I'm just a black girl waah waah. You can't treat me like an adult."

spike59| 11.21.12 @ 5:50AM

that hits the mark EXACTLY

Kingofthenet| 11.20.12 @ 12:55PM

"The intelligence community - not the White House, State Department or Justice Department - was responsible for the substantive changes made to the talking points distributed for government officials who spoke publicly about the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, the spokesman for the director of national intelligence said Monday."

This SHOULD be the end of the Republican madness....but it won't be...

John Navratil| 11.20.12 @ 1:21PM

KOTN,

So White House appointees heading an executive branch department insulates the man they serve from responsibility?

Clapper heads the DNI which our MSM is now claiming made the changes. Either he is serving the President or he is a rogue who should be dismissed. Is it remotely possible that the man who gave the order to provide all necessary help was acting without intelligence? Was Obama too busy to be briefed or was he misled? If the latter, where is Clapper's head? Do you think editing of this assessment was being handled by some junior clerk without supervision at the highest levels?

The White House sent Susan Rice out with the talking points - her instructions on what to say. Then it hides behind her skirts by saying she knew nothing about the intelligence as she doesn't have access to the classified data. Why should they send someone without knowledge out to give their message? Where was Hillary? She had access to the data. It was a State Dept. facility and a State Dept. ambassador who died. Perhaps they should have sent Janet Napolitano - at least she has something to do with security.

This ain't tiddly-winks and Obama is trying to play both halves against the middle.

Kingofthenet| 11.20.12 @ 1:28PM

NO, you aren't entitled to your OWN facts, the White house NEVER told Rice what to say, she was talking from the national intelligence Service 'Talking points" ...PERIOD get it thru your skull the White house made NO changes to them.

John Navratil| 11.20.12 @ 1:46PM

KOTN,

I'll write slowly so you can keep up.

BS.

The White House sent Rice out with the talking points. She does not go on talk shows to speak for the administration without the administration telling her to do so and what to say.

Of course, the White House made no changes to the talking points. I never said they did. I said their appointees apparently did (specifically the DNI under Clapper) and if they did it on their own, they misled the President. I further stated that the President was either involved and knew the classified facts or he was not in which case he gave orders to provide assistance without knowing what was going on.

What factual misrepresentation have I made?

Now try to explain how Obama suggested to Steve Croft that it "may have been terrorism" if he had not been briefed? Was he acting like to rest of the nation and stating what seemed to be obvious without briefing? You can't have it both ways. He either knew or he should have. If he knew, he sent Rice out to lie for him. If he didn't, why did he sent Rice, at all?

Kingofthenet| 11.20.12 @ 3:37PM

Well I guess we agree, simply The President, Susan Rice et al were repeating EXACTLY what the intelligence agency was telling them. They did NOT spin or change what they were told, maybe the intelligence community was wrong in the early days, maybe they were protecting classified info. but whatever the reason the White House told the American people EXACTLY what they were told, there was NO Conspiracy to change the facts given to them, which is the Republican allegation.

John Navratil| 11.20.12 @ 3:53PM

KOTN,

You conveniently ignore the statements of Obama to Steve Croft, that he was in the loop by his own admission, that the CIA called it a terrorist attack at the time, that the assessment was modified between the time Obama was informed and Rice was handed the talking points (arguably to remove classified intel), and that Obama sent Rice out.

Obama has feinted and dodged to pin this on intelligence or Rice and then, chivalrously, standing in to defend Rice without actually defending her.

The only things on which we agree is that Rice repeated EXACTLY what intelligence told HER, and that the White House maintain plausible deniability to changing the talking points.

Kingofthenet| 11.20.12 @ 4:06PM

Well there is NO Terrorist University, you just ARE one based on what you do, so for the President to say to Steve Croft that this could have been a Terrorist Operation, is pretty obvious, most regular protesters leave their RPG's and other Heavy Weapons at home.

John Navratil| 11.20.12 @ 4:45PM

Kingofthenet,

Obvious indeed! Obvious to me. Apparently to you! But not obvious to this dissembling administration or to Susan Rice. The talking points said this was a protest over the video, as in Cairo, which got out of hand and there was no evidence to support the notion of a terrorist attack. At this stage of the discussion, I support you over Rice for Sec. of State.

Who are you gonna' believe? Me or your lying' eyes!

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 5:03PM

John: Who said "There is no evidence to support the notion of a terrorist attack"?

Cite or bite.

John Navratil| 11.20.12 @ 5:25PM

Ralph Novy,

Did you see Susan Rice's five disquisitions on the topic?

"The information, the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. That what happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo, as a consequence of the video" - Fox News Sunday - Sept. 16

Ralph Novy| 11.24.12 @ 1:29PM

"Disquisitions"?

Oo.

Your quotation (badly done, by the way) makes MY point, not YOURS.

What part of "best assessment we have today" didn't you understand?

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 4:31PM

No such thing.

Drunken Sailor| 11.20.12 @ 3:34PM

Remind me again who appointed that DNI director? Oh yea, the same guy who appointed Holder and Rice.

John Navratil| 11.20.12 @ 3:58PM

Drunken Sailor,

Give him a break! He is a very busy man! Can't do everything, don't you know! Is it his problem that sometimes, some people go off the reservation a little bit? Don't worry, he'll take care of it!

Drunken Sailor| 11.20.12 @ 4:20PM

Right after his golf game. You nailed it when you said "Plausible deniability". That is Obama's second line of defense. The first being outright denial.

spike59| 11.21.12 @ 5:57AM

the bottom line is, anyone with an IQ above room temperature knew this was a terrorist attack, not a protest about a video trailer for a movie no one ever watched, and the WH, CIA, and State Department knew on 9/11 that this was a terrorist attack...and 'the word' was already out, albeit without much fanfare, that this was a terrorist attack... yet, they trotted out Rice on all the weekend talking head shows to peddle the 'video' nonsense-and if Rice DIDN'T know she was passing on a falsehood, she's too stupid to be allowed near a microphone, a high-profile government post, or even small appliances...and if she DID know, then she's too dishonest to represent the US and should be canned

Kingofthenet| 11.20.12 @ 4:01PM

This whole Benghazi 'Mission' sounds like a CIA Blacksite, most likely for collecting intel.

John Navratil| 11.20.12 @ 4:47PM

Kingofthenet,

Would that be the consulate or the annex? Where were the CIA?

Warrior| 11.20.12 @ 8:46PM

Prepping for their next appearance on The View?

spike59| 11.21.12 @ 5:59AM

well, then...by all means, let 'em die, right??????

stop letting mommy scare you with Tom Clancy books at bedtime

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 4:29PM

Wow.

How stunningly self-unaware.

At the same time Goldstein is accusing the Congressional Black Caucus of racism and sexism, he's somehow criticizing them for not supporting Condoleeza Rice and Allen West because they're dark-skinned.

I.e., "they're racist because they refuse to support people of darker skin color, no matter what they say or do."

In what Ziggy world does THAT make ANY sense?

This piece is stupefyingly self-contradictory.

Hack!

John Navratil| 11.20.12 @ 6:19PM

Ralph Novy,

Do you work at being obtuse? Do we even speak the same language?

Goldstein did not criticize the CBC for not supporting Rice or West. He criticized them for identity politics and used the race of Rice and West to underline their hypocricy.

Show me his criticism for of them "for not supporting Condoleeza Rice and Allen West because they're dark-skinned."

"Cite or bite" said Mr. Novy.

Ralph Novy| 11.24.12 @ 1:35PM

It's you, John, who's lacking in English comprehension. Goldstein clearly DID criticize the CBC for not supporting Rice and West.

And what on earth is "used the race of Rice and West to underline their hypocrisy" supposed to mean?

As to the "cite" bit:

1. "When was the last time the Congressional Black Caucus stuck up for Condoleezza Rice?"

and

2. "Come to think of it, where is the Congressional Black Caucus regarding Allen West?"

Bite that, John.

Ralph Novy| 11.24.12 @ 1:39PM

To put it another way: Is Goldstein criticizing the CBC for being racist or for not being racist enough?

ncatty| 11.20.12 @ 5:35PM

Identity politics serve the left for now, so expect more of it. You cannot escape how you look. What you think doesn't matter.

spike59| 11.21.12 @ 10:13AM

how you perform your duties doesn't matter, either, no matter how long you've been screwing up:

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-157587

J. Kelley| 11.20.12 @ 7:00PM

The Man who did the video, which not many people saw. Is in jail serving 1 year. and the Terriosts who killed 4 Americans are free and planning another attack. Go figure

Gary B| 11.20.12 @ 10:24PM

We'll probably hear they had dinner at the White House.

gazinya | 11.24.12 @ 8:43AM

It is not a matter of skin color or 'race' or gender. The Democrat and those that support Democrat theology, have chosen to believe that evil is good. I can hear the same lies coming from a priest or pastor as I hear come from and Islamic. I can see and hear the same interchangeable terms being used like words on a Scrabble Board, but with the same root word, 'evil'. There are only two worldviews. The first is 'In the beginning God created...' The second worldview is 'you shall not surely die.' The Dems and probably 75% of this nation believes that they will 'not die' because they do not believe that 'God' is really involed in His creation. This ability to 'see and understand' did not come from me (the world). I did not 'figure it out' but the God, (not of this world) through Jesus, gives freely of His Wisdom.

Qwilly| 11.26.12 @ 6:01PM

Dang Aaron...thats FUDGED UP.

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