The American Spectator : The Biggest Reasons

drudge ette obama| 11.15.12 @ 6:17AM

Add to the list the junior varsity press. I expected some gravitas to be displayed at the press conference yesterday, but these press people are cowed beyond belief and can't even agressively follow-up or cut the foll off when he rambles on and on with debate-coach responses.

I am sickened.

Romney needed anger. He may have been a great President, given the chance, but he blew it when he took the stinking high road. I wanted to to fight for me - didn't get it.

Aristocat| 11.15.12 @ 6:51AM

Sorry, Ross, supporting gay marriage is a loser issue for Republicans....

Joellen| 11.15.12 @ 8:36AM

Unemployment up from 375,000 to 430,000 in one week. Market down 710 points in one week. Blame the tea party, pro-life conservatives on this too and not the media for fudging the numbers and facts during the last 4 years.

JimP| 11.15.12 @ 10:07AM

Are you saying the Tea Party and pro-lifers are responsible for the unemployment and market numbers, or for Obama being re-elected? The first makes no sense. The second is wrong. Mr. Kaminsly is correct, IMHO, about the perception of the GOP being a major part of the problem: and who is responsible for this decades long running problem? Why it's the inside the beltway, Rockefeller Republican establishment types. Think of John Boehner for a prime example. He comes across as a status quo insider, country club fop, and he does nothing to attempt to change the image of the GOP as a bunch of old white guy country club snobs. He's a perfect stereotype: he smokes, he's ALWAYS got a tan, he NEVER needs a haircut, his shirts are always starched and pressed, when he speaks he sounds like he's half in the bag (intoxicated), and he's known for playing a fair amount of golf-at least. A mere hald a million more votes for Romney in several swing states and Mitt would be POTUS. Why was GOP voter turn out down this year. Because many conservatives, notably the Ron Paul supporters, are fed up with the John Boehners and their ilk and refused to vote. Throw in the other reasons noted by Mr. Kaminsky and others and our side lost-again- but it's the same old story. What is constant in all this? The GOP establishment that doesn't want to sell conservatism, they want to sell RINOism, that's what.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 10:39AM

"You own it"

JimP| 11.15.12 @ 11:26AM

Don't understand your comment. Please explain.

Thanks.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 2:38PM

See my lengthy post of today at 10:31AM below!

Acton Thrush| 11.15.12 @ 4:24PM

Was hoping for an iPad Mini from Obama, but will have to settle for universal health insurance coverage. But the biggest gift Obama gave the entire country was the WIN over Romney.

Thanks, Obama.

JimP| 11.15.12 @ 5:26PM

Nice comment at 10:31 am. What's it got to do with me? I voted for Romney.

vtwin| 11.15.12 @ 12:48PM

Ah, the Republican Party at war with itself. Ross representing the moneyed interests of the Party meets a key constituent of the Party the religiously intolerant this time on the issue of gay marriage.

darcy| 11.15.12 @ 11:11PM

The gay-marriage intolerant: is that you vtwin?

The Christophobe? The monogamy-phobe? The traditional-valuephobe? The decent-peoplephobe?

You folks don't seem to get it, vtwin: every time you lash out at NORMAL people, you betray your own DISCRIMINATION against them. You seek to shame, silence, and mock them. Why hell, dude, where's your liberal god, TOLERANCE? Not much in evidence is it? But you'll tolerate just fine all manner of behavior that is NOT decent. But decent people, well, they're just here to be spat upon, mocked, derided, and ground to a pulp, is that it?

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 6:56AM

I don't know where to start.

Where ya been? Better late than never? Speak of the Devil?

I'm going with: Look what the Cat dragged in.

How dare you go in to hiding at an Undislosed Location at your Mom's House, leaving the rest of us to Fend for ourselves, mulling around in the Lobby. (Hat Tip - ACJr)

Some of us were worried, around here. I know for a fact that your new Best Friend was petrified. So much so, that he had your Photo put on Milk Cartons, and is giving them away at tomorrow's Contest to the Honourable Mention nobodies. (Like Bob Grant)

I guess I understand what you were thinking. You were thinking that: In Honour of the Reelection of Joe Biden, you would wait til everyone else wrote their Idiotic Treatsies on "Why Romney Lost" and then initiate 'Operation Cherry Pick' in conjunction with the Anniversary of the Joe Biden/Neil Kinnock Collaboration Speech. (Am I the only one confused by the whole i before e, except after c, when it comes to things like - Neil?)

Where was I?

Right. How did Romney Lose?

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 7:17AM

Again. Where do ya start?

Did you know that there are still 300,000 Uncounted Votes in Ohio?

Did you know that, in Filthydelphia the Republican Poll Watchers were PHYSICALLY REMOVED from the Voting Places, and needed a Judge to get them put back in the Building? How long does it take to get a Court Order from a Judge? In that time, how many Bogus Votes could Obama's SAVAGES have crammed in to the SEIU Serviced Voting Machines. According to the Machines in these Prescints - 99.99999% of the inhabitants of this No Go Zone City Voted, and 100% of them Voted for the Black Guy, and by this action, voted for a great big "FCK YOU" to everything that Martin Luther King Jr. Fought and Died for.

The NAADN was RUNNING the Voting Places in Houston. The Quasi-human Black Panthers were, once again, stationed outside the exact same Voting Place as they were last time around, spouting their Ape-like Racist Bullsh*t in the Magic Negro's Blacks Only Amerika, once more.

The JEW HATER, who's Best Buddies with Jeremiah Jew Hater, Louis Farrakillallthejews, and Bill "Flotilla" Jew Hater Ayers, got 70% of the Jewish Vote, which begs the question - Are we to hard on people who refer to them as STUPID JEWS? (I believe they call that a Conundrum)

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 7:49AM

And, let's not forget the 3,000,000 White People who think they're Better than the rest of us. Who think that they would Teach Us a Lesson, by Staying Home in Protest, because half of them wanted the little Weasel-Faced Publisher of "How to Kill Ni**ers Magazine", and the other half wanted Jesus Christ. (But would have settled for one of the Apostles)

They are that Rare Breed that I think I've mentioned previously, whom I predicted would not only Cut off their Noses to Spite their Faces, but would Blow Off their Heads.

You throw in the Total Blackout by the Media, of anything that might even remotely damage their Chosen Candidate, and it's a Miracle that Romney got any Votes at all.

Welcome to Mexico. Welcome to South America.

Welcome to Argentina, where THE PEOPLE are in the streets, Protesting their Female Version of our Gay Bathhouse Boy El Commandante.

Welcome to One More Beautiful Place in this World, that is being Fundamentally Transformed into a SH*THOLE by the Sons and Daughters of The Dark Continent. Anyone Surprised?

Welcome to South Africa. Welcome to Zimbabwe.

Welcome to AMERIKA.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 11.15.12 @ 8:38AM

Excellent use of analogies, metaphors and similes. Perhaps you should sponsor a contest in this regard, Mr. Pennell.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 9:40AM

Actually, I already do that.

In fact, if you were to go there right now?

You would probably see exactly what you see, here.

Me writing a Three Column Manifesto that has managed to garner only One Response, and it's from you.

Go figure.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 9:47AM

And, you spelled - Smiles - wrong.

Nancy in NC| 11.15.12 @ 9:55AM

Glad to hear from the president of "The Tell It Like It Is" club. No one will ever accuse you of political correctness. Unfortunately, we need a very black man to stand up and say exactly what you have said here.

It appears the GOP will never be able to win another election. It's rigged and there's no way around it. In NC the mentally incompetent "voted" and patients from the nursing homes who didn't know their names votes. People wearing helmets voted at curbside. This is in a small county in Eastern NC...what the heck went on in large urban areas?

vtwin| 11.15.12 @ 12:59PM

Interesting commentary on the voters of North Carolina from a North Carolinian, who apparently doesn’t realize who carried North Carolina.

No wait, I think she is making her point!

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 3:41PM

Unlike you.

Bob Grant| 11.15.12 @ 10:03AM

He SAYS he'll give me an honorable mention but fails to do so every time.

I'll give it a go again. See what happens. See if I'll get another imaginary honorable mention.

I do have a serious complaint, however. You make us go to the sleaziest parts of Amspec; the Southside, so to speak. My virtual automobile was shot at thrice, two attempted car jackings, three propositions, and one black panther voter intimidation incident, even though I told him the election was over and that his boy had won.

An article about Sandusky? Really?

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 10:26AM

Not THAT Sandusky.

More like a Jean Paul Pierre Sandusky.

Think of it as Tribute to Purp, Pelleas, and Alan Brookswhateverthefuckhe'scallinghimself.

And, where's all that imagination on Fridays, Mr. Milk Carton?

Alan Brooks | 11.15.12 @ 10:46PM

"Think of it as Tribute to Purp, Pelleas, and Alan Brookswhateverthefuckhe'scallinghimself."

You used to call yourself Timothy L. Pennell; now you are ashamed of the name?

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 10:42AM

Pure poetry, as usual!!!!

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:24PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Santiago| 11.15.12 @ 12:25PM

I completely understand your anger sir, but I must respectfully take offense with your "Welcome to South America" comment. I happen to live in a South American country that's doing quite alright, and I'm probably better off here than in the US at the moment (I wish this wasn't so, since I'd like to live a little closer to home again, but that's how it is for now).

Drunken Sailor| 11.15.12 @ 12:41PM

Sadly Santiago, I believe you. We are worse off than many South American countries. If I were you I would stay put for a few more years.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 2:41PM

Wait, DS, just only "a few more years"?????

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 4:58PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 3:50PM

It's not about Economy.

It's about Tin Pot Dictators and Failed States.

Perhaps, in your Fondness of your Home Town (And if you live here? Don't let the door hit you on the way out) you've missed the fact that Venezuela is run by I'mahandajob's New Best Friend. Or that Argentina has taken to the streets, to protest the second coming of Eva Peron. Or the Fact that Marxism is on the rise in your old Stomping Grounds.

All I can say to you is this: Feel free to go back where you came from, and don't be afraid to take as many of your Compadres with you.

Mexico's Economy is doing pretty good, if you don't mind having your HEAD show up on the side of the road, in a Duffle Bag.

Occam's Tool| 11.15.12 @ 8:33PM

He didn't cock punch. The next guy has to cock punch. What matters is winning.

Toinfinityandbeyond| 11.16.12 @ 3:37PM

Tim TLP loser really has no life.

It seems like this site is his whole life.

Legitimate Loser!

Toinfinityandbeyond| 11.18.12 @ 6:27PM

Remember what Great Santorum said?

"We will never have smart people in the Republican Party."

"So, President Obama wants all kids to go to college to get education. What a snob!"

lol

Jack in Wi| 11.15.12 @ 7:25AM

Ross: the Democrats are the party of abortion, homosexuality, sky high taxes, endless war for Israel, sky high taxes, bloated government unions, massive spending, and general mismangment. We don't need 2 parties like that. Romney was a pro war, pro homosexual, pro abortion liberal. A lot of the base of the Party and other independents wanted nothing to do with him. He lost because he kissed Bibby Nutanyahu's rear end too many times. He let a war criminal and mass murderer like Obama look peaceful. His decline which he never recovered from started with his idiotic foreign trip wich he took to Israel and Europe in the summer. The Republican party is 80% pro-life and 95% for marriage as a Normal heterosexual institution. Romney could have won if he had come out for square for bringing the troops from Afganistan now, called for a complete audit of the Fed and let Ron Paul speak at the convention. He lost because he was a terrible candidate. He was just another Bush in a country that is sick of the branch of the party.

Jack in Wi| 11.15.12 @ 7:34AM

He also lost because the Democrts were able to paint him a s a rich plutocrat who didn't care for little people. The Democrats ran devastating adds in this state Wi. showing old white people from factories that Romney closed. Romney could of played the social card showing Obama's rabid pr-abortion, pro homosexual agenda. But how could he? He really agrees with it. G. W. Bush won in 2004 by pushing anti gay marriage referenda in many states including Ohio. One thing is clear that rabid Zionists like you bring nothing to the table. 70% of the Jewish vote went to Obama anyhow. They also provided him with most of his re-election funds. This rabid supporting of Israel has and always be a total loser for Republicans.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 10:55AM

No Jackaxx from Wisconsin, Romney lost because of the labor unions; the same which invaded your supposed house/state, raped your family and spit in your face before the Romney-isk Scott Walker chased them out; the ones who work for each/every local/state/federal government and lemmingly followed their Richard Trumpka orders to vote for the Black Jesus; the same that brainwashed you and your fellow STUPIDS to stay home, read your newsletters from The Shinning's Jack Nicholson and NOT VOTE FOR THE RINO; the snot nosers who live in your basement and demand their governmental FREE STUFF FROM SANTA CLAUS, who fail to support their country and anyone over 20 years of age; the ingenius OTHER SEX that munch bon-bons while religiously viewing THE VIEW and OPRAH daily while demanding their birth control FREE STUFF also;etc. Oh you get the picture, don't you? Well guess what SUPER MORON FOR RONNIE THE SENILE? """""""You Own It""""""!!!!!!!

Toinfinityandbeyond| 11.16.12 @ 3:42PM

Wow!

What you said is whole lot of nothing just like Mitt Romney.

Toinfinityandbeyond| 11.18.12 @ 6:28PM

Remember what Great Santorum said?

"We will never have smart people in the Republican Party."

"So, President Obama wants all kids to go to college to get education. What a snob!"

lol

Toinfinityandbeyond| 11.16.12 @ 3:39PM

Jack in Wi,

You show a lot of brain-damage you got from FAUX.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 11:09AM

You expected the guy that had college paid for by his wealthy father, dodged the draft in Europe basking on French beaches, and had Bain Capital handed to him by Bill Bain, with no risk to himself, to be a fighter?
Boy were you delusional... don't blame Romney.

CJW| 11.15.12 @ 11:54AM

Purpie the Village Idiot p0sted the following after the election:

"Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials."

So pupie believes and approves that God killed over 100 people, destroyed homes, and injured many so that Obama could win.

Last month purpie wrote that Ambassador Stevens is responsible for his own death.

This is the message of the loony left: Purpie and his band of followers. They do not deserve any response other that ridicule and mocking

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 4:59PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

vtwin| 11.15.12 @ 1:05PM

Purp, very perceptive, this explains why Romney was “shell-shocked” that he had lost.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 2:47PM

As opposed to the guy that had college paid for by his wealthy Muslim oil tycoon friends in the ME [and by the US taxpayers], dodged the draft by associating with terrorists and anarchists in Chicago, and had the presidency handed to him by the moronic dumbarses of this country, that fights for Muslim terrorists in Benghazi and not for American patriots defending this country? Boy are you STUPID....don't blame Romney.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 6:34PM

I told you facts - you make shit up to make yourself feel good.
Be a man, grow a pair and admit you lost because America rejects you.

Alan Brooks | 11.15.12 @ 5:31PM

I'm just glad Romney and McCain were not elected president, be thankful for small favors; though perhaps Bush had to be president so we could see what an oxymoron Compassionate Conservatism is.

BTW, here's an idea for a book:

"No Need For Term Limits,
The Life Of William Henry Harrison"

Alan Brooks | 11.15.12 @ 5:51PM

"what an oxymoron Compassionate Conservatism is."

WAS.
Conservatism is many things, compassion it is not; Bush must have conflated conservatism with Buddhism.

spike59| 11.15.12 @ 6:22AM

i understand how yesterday's MSM pep rally left you sickened; but PLEASE tell me you were suprised...and try to make me believe it

did you really expect, after all these years, that someone in the MSM was going to actually bring their testicles with them????

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 11:11AM

On the other hand, the President is ready for battle with brass ones ... it was magnificent and all Republicans just need to ask is how long to bend over to please him, and we'll all get along just fine.

CJW| 11.15.12 @ 12:04PM

Too bad he did not use brass ones in Benghazi.

Purpie the Village Idiot p0sted the following after the election:

"Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials."

So pupie believes and approves that God killed over 100 people, destroyed homes, and injured many so that Obama could win.

Last month purpie wrote that Ambassador Stevens is responsible for his own death.

This is the message of the loony left: Purpie and his band of followers. They do not deserve any response other that ridicule and mocking

Louis Jenkins| 11.15.12 @ 12:46PM

Obama has brass ones? He couldn't fight his way out a paperbag with both ends opened. Perhaps the biggest fey guy we've ever had as president.

And they're on the mantle in the reception room under Michelle's lock and key. Don't talk to me about Obama's brass ones.

vtwin| 11.15.12 @ 1:21PM

Maybe not, but he kicked the shit out of Romney.

Louis Jenkins| 11.15.12 @ 4:16PM

Don't confuse the political machine with Obama's family jewels. 100 Ohio precincts vote 100%, some more than 100%, for Obama? Yes, Obama won. How? Doesn't matter, but please don't confuse the two items.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:00PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 6:36PM

You couldn't hold a candle to Obama's strength ... and Romney is milquetoast in comparison. You lost because he was terrible as a candidate and conservatism is dying.
No voter fraud, no voter suppression, just simple rejection of you and your ideas.

Occam's Tool| 11.15.12 @ 8:35PM

Well, Purp, then America is dead; and Militant Islam wins.

But I don't think so. Yet.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 3:52PM

I'm sure that Purp meant Gay Bathhouse Boy's Ben Wa Balls.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 6:46PM

still obsessed with Gay Sex aren't you? Why is that? Psychologists could tell you. Have you got a little one?

Ralph Novy| 11.17.12 @ 11:25PM

Yeah. "Interesting" that the most homophobic individuals seem to be the ones who end up getting caught in some sort of homosexual scandal, eh?

Larry Craig.

vtwin| 11.15.12 @ 1:19PM

Lindsey Graham, hoping it’s so!

Ralph Novy| 11.17.12 @ 11:27PM

Hey.

I think it's obvious that Graham is a closeted homosexual.

What's perhaps less obvious -- and maybe I'm wrong -- is that John Boehner and Eric Cantor are too.

There's just "something" going on there ......

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 2:54PM

Or the President is ready for gutter battle [aka Ayers-style] with bullexcrement and beer summits for race-baiting home-invading felons......it was magnificent that Americans are so STUPID as to fall for this lying b unch of SOBs as to dumbarsedly drive off of the cliff in their T-Bird [T&L style] with America in the backseat not once but twice, and we'll all end up at the bottom of the canyon below encased in its crumpled metalheap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 6:36PM

You still LOST... wanna be a Democrat? Or stay a LOSER?

Toinfinityandbeyond| 11.16.12 @ 3:49PM

@Purp,

You said it perfectly.

lol

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 11.15.12 @ 6:23AM

Is it also possible that many people are simply lazy, unmotivated and don't care unless they can't order a number three on the menu from McDonald's?

There are many obstacles to overcome but perhaps the greatest obstacle is that the Republicans need to turn to training. The Republicans need to spend some money on an academy which teaches debating skills and public speaking.

Communication has never been more important and several elections were lost on that issue alone.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 11:13AM

Hahaha ... yeah, your ideas are oh so sound... hahaha. The public GOT the message, and threw the messengers out.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 2:56PM

Hahaha...yeah......The public GOT [or will 1/1/13] get the economic broomhandle shove up their Purp's collectively when the domestic terrorists resume control!!!!!!!!!!

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 6:45PM

You LOST - what are you laughing at? LMAO.

aware| 11.15.12 @ 6:34AM

You are in deep denial and taking the first step down the wrong road. Just like in '08. Will the Beltarians ever learn? Apparently not. "We are right and the voters are morons" is a pretty pathetic "analysis".

Some of us see little difference between the 2 wings of the Party of the State, except in the parasites they both support. The only real way to tell which wing is in charge is the names on the checks handed out. But the proceeds for both is stolen the same old way.

Your message is muddled, the messengers are hypocrites, and the results never match the rhetoric. Maybe that has something to do with it.

Gary B| 11.15.12 @ 7:08AM

That and the fact that the GOP simply will not allow a conservative on the ticket.

It looks like enough conservatives stayed home this time around. I guess they've had it. I don't like it, but I understand it. They're tied of getting sucker punched EVERY SINGLE TIME.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 8:43AM

Mr. B

We had PRIMARIES. Lots of them, all over the place, all this year.

I don't remember any Conservatives who were "Not Allowed" to participate.

It's like The Lottery - You can't Win it, if you're not in it.

It's like the Chinese Laundry - "No ticky, no shirty."

Pat Paulsen had his chance. (Did I say Pat Paulsen? I meant Ron Paul) I understand that he's not a Conservative and that he's just the "Candidate" they need at Psychiatrist School (to be a Study Subject) so their Students can Observe the Unusual Mannerisms of someone who's THISCLOSE to falling off the Dementia Cliff, up close and personal.

Governor FAT SLOB could've got in, but he didn't. (I'm thinking that he never likes to be Too Far from his Favourite "All You Can Eat Buffet")

Santorum was Way outta his League.

Gingrich was Way too Damaged Goods.

And, Paul Ryan obviously preferred being a Bridesmaid, instead of a Bride.

The Point is: Romney Won. And, though he was not my 1st Pick, by any means? I believe, in the End, that he, and Ryan, were this Country's last best hope to right The Ship.

Now, we'll never know, as we find ourselves back at Sea, with a Captain and a Crew trying their Damndest to Hit every Iceberg they can find, as fast as they can find them.

Contest, tomorrow.

scotchieguy| 11.15.12 @ 10:28AM

My cartoon bubble shows Capt. Queeg trying to remain in charge. I see the Capt getting pissed off barely a week after he won. It's gonna get ugly.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:00PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Gary B| 11.15.12 @ 11:30AM

Regarding the primaries... follow the money.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 4:13PM

It's not about The Money.

It's about the Fact that NOBODY seems to have WANTED THE JOB.

And, if these "Conservatives" are "Tired of getting Sucker Punched every time"?

How are they gonna feel, when The Muslim STICKS IT UP THEIR @SS for the next FOUR YEARS?

FCK EVERYBODY who saddled the rest of us with this Marxist MFer, because their Feelings Were Hurt, and they didn't get the guy they wanted.

I didn't get the guy I wanted, but I voted for him, anyway, and with good reason.

HE WASN'T THE MARXIST MUSLIM!

FCK'EM ALL!

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 4:16PM

What's wrong with you?

Are you really this Stupid?

Gary B| 11.15.12 @ 9:52PM

It's about the money if the RNC is going to pour in on you and not others in the running.

I didn't stay home. I voted for Romney. He's one of the most decent candidates in recent history. He just wasn't angry enough, as someone else here said. And, I think he got very bad advice about not going for The Muslim's throat.

vtwin| 11.15.12 @ 1:50PM

I think it is a mistake for conservative to trash Christie. The good people of New Jersey elected Christie Governor not political hack for Romney. Christie was doing his job.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 4:15PM

If you think it's a bad idea to trash Tub a Lard?

That just tells me that that's, DEFINATELY, the right thing to do.

Occam's Tool| 11.15.12 @ 8:39PM

Actually, Christie is NOT doing his job. There's lots of suffering in NJ. Just no reportage.

RCV| 11.16.12 @ 11:53AM

Please, Republicans, tell us that government isn't doing enough.

Ralph Novy| 11.17.12 @ 11:28PM

Good one, RCV.

Ralph Novy| 11.17.12 @ 11:29PM

It's like "everyone hates lawyers until they need one."

Occam's Tool| 11.15.12 @ 8:38PM

Well, after the 1st WMD hits American soil (hopefully dead centered above Jack's house), I will expect America to WAKE UP.

And it won't be pretty. It will be deadly, but not pretty. And it could have been avoided by electing a competent, decent man.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 10:58AM

""""You own it""""" also, UNDER-AWARE!!!!

aware| 11.15.12 @ 4:50PM

Conservative stock nose dives with every post you make. With "foot soldiers" like you no wonder Republicans keep shooting themselves' in the foot, and have trouble being able to tell which way the front is, or gaining any allies.

Henry22| 11.15.12 @ 6:42AM

God, all this navel gazing by the GOP is nauseous. Look Ross, Romney only lost by two percentage points, the GOP still has an overwhelming majority in the House, we picked up another governorship, the 2010 census moved House seats from blue states to red states, the majority of state legislatures are still GOP controlled.
It's true, that there are places, like where I live (NYC) where you can be a dead possum, but as along as you have a capital D behind your name you will win election. However, this doesn't have to hamper the GOP. Romney and the the 2016 candidate just have to get the same amount of the Hispanic vote that Bush got in 2004 to be successful again. THAT is the way of the future.

And for the love of Christ, I implore the tea party to stop nominating bat sh*t insane people to run for the senate....I'd rather win with a Richard Lugar, than lose with a "pure" candidate.

Use your collective heads, people.

benny havens| 11.15.12 @ 7:18AM

I think you put your finger on it Henry.

Let’s not vote for bat shit tea party people. Let’s vote for more progressives candidates like Susan Collins and Richard Lugar. What the hell, they have an R after their names.

They can reach across the aisle and accept the leftist policies of Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer and President Santa Clause, the country will be so much better off. Why can’t we all just get along with each other?

I suggest that you volunteer your services to the Republican National Committee.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 8:48AM

Hold on, benny. Henry22 makes a good point.

If we're gonna get rid of the Castles and the Lugars (Both of them, a waste of Oxygen) we'd better damn well make sure that the Person we're gonna replace them with, once shared a Rubber Room with Joe Biden a few years ago.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 8:50AM

Where did I put that Imaginary Edit Button?

DIDN'T share a Rubber Room with the Deleware Dumb@ss.

Vic| 11.15.12 @ 10:37AM

Yea what's the use for ideals. Why not just start voting Democratic?

JayDick| 11.15.12 @ 11:15AM

Ideals don't help much if you don't win. Because of those idealists who stayed home and the ones who tried but don't know how to run for office, the country is truly screwed. We'll never recover. Socialized medicine is now here to stay. In a few years, Greece will look pretty good.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 4:21PM

That's pretty much what these people did, by sitting home, and Stroking their Precious Ideals.

When your Starving, you don't turn your nose up at a plate of beans, because you wanted Fillet Mignon.

Idiot.

I don't care about Romney's Faults, if it means four more years of this CCKSCKR.

Apparently, you do.

Unfckingbelievable.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 11:00AM

"""""You own it"""""!!!!

Gary B| 11.15.12 @ 7:01AM

So, even though Asian Americans " happen to be the highest-earning group in the U.S., out-earning whites, and they generally place enormous emphasis on family," they voluntarily joined the ranks of the dumbest Americans in history. I hope they enjoy their totalitarian pie.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 9:15AM

I agree 100%.

My lesser half is Asian. (I'm the Man, she's the Nothing. That was in my letter that we read to each other at our Wedding. I don't remember what her's said, as I wasn't listening. I'm guessing it was just more of the same Babbling Nonsense that she's always spouting)

They have a totally different Mindset, when it comes to being Lorded Over by an Oppressive Dictatorship. Over the Centuries, their DNA has been Reconfigured somehow, with a "Don't Rock The Boat" sequence of Chromosomes. Except for the Asian Gangs? They pretty much spend their lives like a School of Pollock. They swim around in Close-quarters, by the Millions, until they end up in a McDonald's Fillet a Fish, so to speak.

Seriously. Look at how Crammed they are in their Trains. Look at their Tiny Apartments. Look at the Japanese People, right after the Eartquake and the Tsunami ravaged their Country. They never complain.

Now, compare that to New Orleans and Katrina.

Compare that to what we see, even to this day, after Sandy hit. Fights. Guns being pulled. Gouging of the people by the Store Owners.

None of that went on in Japan.

Why did they vote for The Muslim? I don't know.

I'll tell ya, right after I figure out why 70% of the Jews voted for him, why ANY WHITE PERSON voted for this Nightmare or Sat Home with their hands in their pants.

Gary B| 11.15.12 @ 11:41AM

How do you figure out a suicidal idiot? Can't be done.

Regarding Jews for Obama... we non-Jews make the mistake of thinking Jews should have a natural affinity for Israel. It's been proven they don't. Apparently, they couldn't care less so we should stop worrying about that and write them off, along with 90% of blacks. Romney's 46% remark was right on the mark.

Gary B| 11.15.12 @ 11:43AM

Oh, and wasn't the Bill of Rights supposed to protect the minority against the tyranny of the majority? If Obama was an American instead of an imported thug, he'd know that. His education in't any better than the sea of dopes who voted for him.

Occam's Tool| 11.15.12 @ 8:41PM

We should worry about Israel because it has a natural affinity with Conservatives in the US, and becausse it is the front line state fighting against terrorism, much more effectively than we are.

Gary B| 11.15.12 @ 9:55PM

Occam, I didn't say stop worrying about Israel. I said stop worrying about American Jews who don't care about Israel.

Trinacria| 11.15.12 @ 4:21PM

Ha! I almost pissed my pants reading this! God bless you, brother - anyone who can make me laugh in this profoundly depressed state deserves some gratitude.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:02PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Jardino| 11.15.12 @ 5:21PM

Hi TLP ...

I think about why people didn't vote, too. The Bipartisan Policy Center estimates 42.5% of eligible voters did not vote.

You wonder why Asians voted for the "Muslim." Then you compare them to schools of fish and disparage their "crammed" trains and tiny apartments. I feel sorry for your wife. Do you let her work outside the home?

You still rant about Katrina. Can you appreciate how the rest of the world saw what was happening in New Orleans? Are you aware that Bush diverted money from levees to Iraq?

You cannot figure out why "ANY WHITE PERSON voted for this Nightmare."

I'm white and I voted for Obama. I voted for the Party. I think Democrats better represent working people and that Republicans are the party of the owners. The serfs create the land owner's wealth. The slaves build the Pharoah's tomb.

I favor a strong central government over state rights. (See Section 8 of US Constitution.) I'd rather have the EPA determine water standards for the Mississippi than have each state flushing toilets into the Gulf of Mexico making their own rules.

Now you know why one white person voted for Obama.

Hasta la vista ...

Jardino

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:55PM

You sound like a real Fckng Dumb@ss.

THAT is why you voted for this Human Disaster.

Like my kids, you have to learn the hard way.

But then, after listening to your Idiotic Pap?

I'm thinking that you'll never learn.

Even after he comes for You.

Now, why don't you run along, and put your Partner's Dick in your Mouth, where it belongs.

TLP

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:58PM

Why don't you do everyone a Favour, and pack up your Sh*t and move to North Korea?

Obviously, that represents Heaven On Earth to a Dumbfck like you.

Archie| 11.15.12 @ 6:05PM

Bush diverted money from levees to Iraq. Reputable citation please!

Obama: gulf spill, Hurricane Sandy (what are we at, 17-20 days? Folks still without power). Your thoughts on this please.

Favor strong central government over states rights. Somehow I get the impression that to you "strong" means "complete."

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 6:48PM

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:02PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Join Us, Archie.

You won't be disappointed.

PRIZES!

Occam's Tool| 11.15.12 @ 8:42PM

The Jews voted for him, TLP, because they can be stubbornly stupid at times. At some point this will change. Orthodox Jewish voters vote Republican, and their numbers and percentage are increasing.

Gary B| 11.15.12 @ 7:04AM

By choosing Romney, the results of this election can be laid at the feet the GOP establishment. One can only assume they're pleased with the outcome. The ruling elite accumulates more power and herds us forward toward the edge of the Black Hole.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 11:02AM

""""You own it"""""!!!!

The Bruce| 11.15.12 @ 11:56AM

Sorry, Gary, but I can't lay the blame at the feet of the "GOP establishment." I blame us, plain and simple. Collectively, we made him the candidate. The majority of us voted for him in the primaries, remember?

Like in 2008, we put another soft RINO on the ticket. After all, it was his turn, right? As long as we keep putting this crap on the ticket, we'll continue to lose.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:03PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Joellen| 11.15.12 @ 7:10AM

Menedez stiffs two prostitutes and wins big in NJ; Jackson Jr., is in a mental hospital and is facing criminal charges, wins big; Warren lied about her heritage and her law license is questionable wins big against a RINO; Patrick Murphy wins due to voter fraud (like Al Frankin did) etc., etc., and we are to believe the Republican Party must change its values to win.

We loss because the majority of the people today have been raised to believe that they are entitled to whatever they want without having to work or having to sacrifice for it.

Illegals can come in and not only do they face no consequences but they are wooed like lovers by both parties for their support!

Once again we demeanize the Conservative Base for their religious values and fiscal conservative ways, because its assume they'll support whomever anyway.

To become Democrat Lites will not change the path we are on. We need to all become grown ups and assume responsibility for the mess we have made and fix it. I am not conforming to the Democrat philosphy Mr. Kaminsky, and if that makes me a right wing nut, well so be it. And if the "Republican" continue this mantra, there will be more than 3 million voters staying home next time, if there is a next time. Adding artifical sugar to dirt doesnt make it easier to digest.

A reminder Mr. Kaminsky, it's always the smaller more convicted group that gets it done, read your history. Those who dont believe have nothing to fight for.

CJW| 11.15.12 @ 8:20AM

Joellen
I am sure you meant "stiffs" financially, given that the senator is a Dem.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 11.15.12 @ 8:36AM

I believe CJW makes a point, Joellen, even though your terminology is likely doubly accurate. Perhaps when we suggest (without the metaphor, in this instance) that your now reelected US Senator Menendez screwed them and didn't live up to his contractual obligations, will the more obtuse voters in NJ begin to understand what is in store for them.

Joellen| 11.15.12 @ 9:19AM

Yes to CJW's question and No to Albert's question. NJ will most likely never get it. Just like NY wont - just heard that Cuomo, who although a CINO, pushed gay marraige and endorses the PRO DEATH agenda (that's a priority dont you know) is set to outsource to Canada at a cost of $38 Million more than the current contract, DMV drivers license pictures in ...... black & white ......$38 million more and not even in color. Blame that on the Tea Party & conservatives too why dont you.

CJW| 11.15.12 @ 9:37AM

Look on the bright side. With Jessee Jr. occupied on prozac and Menendez on viagra, they are not passing more stupid laws to ruin the economy and restrict our freedoms.

Joellen| 11.15.12 @ 9:13AM

Yes.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:05PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

The winner gets Menedez' Prostitutes.

The Loser has to Pay For Them.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 11:04AM

""""You own it"""""!!!!

Von Mises Jr| 11.15.12 @ 7:22AM

The Liberals and their followers chose wickedness and they will get a full dose in January. The Ten Commandments clearly state one must not covet, but this is exactly what this election was about. What else does anyone think Obama meant by "Punish your Enemies" and "Vote for Revenge?"
Unless you are a complete moron, you must realize now that the tyranny of the majority has left us two options on taxmeggedon and the fiscal cliff. First, the House can cave and agree to tax the job producers into oblivion. Boehner offered $800B last year, upped the ante to $1.6 trillion and Obama said "NO."
I know several people with higher incomes and there are two types: those on Wall St. and with crony capitalist Fortune 500 companies that have Cadillac health plans and shielded from the effects of the massive regulation versus the small business owner that will need to buy expensive health care and will be inundated by this regulation.
The second option is what is clearly going to happen: taxes go up and Obama blames the GOP. So if you are a couple earning $50K each, your social Security tax goes up $2K next year, on a AGI of $70K your Federal taxes go up $4,269, State taxes will go up for any State that implements the ObamaCare Medicaid Expansion, as well as you will be fined $2,500 in a couple years for not buying a $20K health care plan.
The GOP Establishment is fine with the people electing to pay between $6K and perhaps $10K more per year to fund the welfare state they helped create.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 8:54AM

The problem is that most of the electorate ARE complete morons. If Obama's initial election weren't proof, surely his reelection elminated any doubt.

Also, liberals do not think they have chosen wickedness; the false consciousness they embrace precludes any evil on their part; the only evil, in their minds, is ANYTHING and EVERYTHING emanating from a conservative and/or Republican's mouth. Period (and I contend that evil done under the guise of good intentions is far more wicked than evil that knows what it is).

When the shit hits the fan, Obama will blame Republicans, and the vast majority of people - aided by 100% corrupution in the mainstream media - will believe him.

Has the situation in Europe awakened people to the Potemkin village reality of the welfare state? Not a whit; they want theirs, and by god, they don't care how the government gets it.

BTW, I know people at both large corporations and who own small businesses, and far too many of them play go-along-to-get-along. It's the name of the GOP game.

And the only reason that is the game is because people WANT socialism. And when it fails, they will blame capitalism.

It is over. We have proven too flawed to keep the light of America lit.

Von Mises Jr| 11.15.12 @ 10:25AM

The people in the Blue states want socialism such as your VT and my NJ.
The people in the Red states save some farmers with subsidies are not going to fare well under this plan. I do not expect them to play nice when CA, IL, NY and NJ demand they pay their public pensions and ObamaCare Medicaid Expansion.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 10:34AM

But it is true that even the red states receive a ton of federal funding. The democrats have been very successful in building a huge and intractable, intransigent dependent class.

As I've said before, a lot of white seniors are Republican, or at least relatively conservative. And yet, when Social Security gets cut - as it will have to be down the road - we'll see former acolytes or Ronald Reagan and Supply Side Economics screaming at Washington not to cut their entitlement.

In the long run, nobody is going to fare well under this plan - there will be a corrupt coterie who continue to live large, of course, but eventually that will be very small indeed, as it was in the Soviet Union.

But government will keep printing money to forestall that eventuality, and the only thing that will break this suction is a fiscal collapse, which is coming.

The bottom line is that there are more of them than there are of us; their numbers are growing. Ours are shrinking. Reality has lost.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 11:33AM

"Ours are shrinking" - that's the one true statement in all your statements.
The rest is just salve to make you feel better. you cannot conceive that your ideas are wrong. And, the voters are morons?

The Bruce| 11.15.12 @ 12:02PM

Yes, Purp, the voters are morons, and you're their pied piper.

CJW| 11.15.12 @ 12:07PM

Purpie the Village Idiot p0sted the following after the election:

"Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials."

So pupie believes and approves that God killed over 100 people, destroyed homes, and injured many so that Obama could win.

Last month purpie wrote that Ambassador Stevens is responsible for his own death.

This is the message of the loony left: Purpie and his band of followers. They do not deserve any response other that ridicule and mocking

Occam's Tool| 11.15.12 @ 8:43PM

Well, Purp, you ain't that bright, son.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 10:44AM

I work at a Fortune 50 insurance company - I was just in the kitchen getting coffee. It's time to re-up for our benefits for 2013. There was a woman in there - a lesbian with two kids who is an Obamaton, who was complaining that our health care plan has doubled in price.

Did she blame Obamanomics?She did not. Did she attribute the rise in prices to the advent of Obamacare and the regulations that have strangled the health care industry? She did not. She blamed our company for its greed.

Obamacare will NEVER, EVER be revealed as the murderous, corrupt, fraudulent sop to political cronies that it is. It will be seen as America FINALLY being fair about the distribution of health care, and when it fails, it will be greedy insurance companies' fault, or intransigent conservatives' fault. It will NEVER be the fault of liberal thinking.

That is the way it is - it is now baked into the cake that ANY financial hardship will be blamed on evil capitalists. That's the beauty of inflation - it is confiscation of the wealth of primarily the middle class by government, and yet people never blame the government; when beef hits $12.99 a pound, they don't blame the ethanol-induced rise in the price of corn or the rise in fuel prices brought on by the debasement of the dollar or the fact that cash being injected into the economy is driving down the value of every single dollar. They don't look at that. They look at the "greedy" supermarket and bitch about "big grocery."

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 11:07AM

SHE now owns it!!!!!!!!!

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 11:46AM

Obamacare hasn't been implemented yet you idiot. Not until 2014 - either your company or it's insurer is gouging in anticipation of controls on their profligate spending coming. Tough. They just need to bend over and make less money.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 12:09PM

Hate to break this to you, but YOU are the idiot, and an irreparable one at that, since liberalism is a religion for you and facts mean nothing - and by "facts" I mean real facts, not those things Rachel Maddow spoon feeds you.

I know when Obamacare is slated to be implemented.

It is the increased regulations laid upon the insurance industry by your personal god, and the ANTICIPATION of Obamacare that is responsible for our costs rising (or maybe you know my company better than I do; no doubt you think you do).

You get back to me after you're on Obmacare and let me know how wonderful it is. See, in the REAL world, there is no such thing as "free."

But yes, Purp, that is always the answer, isn't it. Make less money. Of course that doesn't apply to you. As a liberal, you believe you are entitled to all the fruits of another person's labors while you sit on your fat ass and pontificate about nothing.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 6:50PM

No, it's not free... so what's your point? You can opt out of your employer's insurance plan - so why are you whining? Make a choice in the free market.
Oh, wait - you have no option until Obamacare is available to you. Hang on, Obama won, and you will be able to leave your employers expensive plan and save money. What will you Whine about then? It's not really free?

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 3:02PM

Major restaurant chains in Florida are now surcharging customers and cutting back employees' working hours NOW in anticipation of WELFARECARE's "Not until 2014" implementation. What a dumbars your mother hatched!!!!!!!!!!!!

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 6:51PM

They are gouging you like jacking up a bottle of milk to 10.00 when there's a hurricane. And you put up with it? Why? Are you that stupid. You're on Medicare, shut up.

CJW| 11.15.12 @ 7:01PM

Purpie the Village Idiot p0sted the following after the election:

"Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials."

So pupie believes and approves that God killed over 100 people, destroyed homes, and injured many so that Obama could win.

Last month purpie wrote that Ambassador Stevens is responsible for his own death.

This is the message of the loony left: Purpie and his band of followers. They do not deserve any response other that ridicule and mocking

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 11:35AM

The Red States suck more money from the Federal Govt than the Blue States, so you don't know what you're talking about.
Keep listening to Fox and Rush and not facts.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 11:48AM

Nice - you're about the fifth moron to disseminate that talking point since yesterday. I guess it was on Rachel Maddow?

Actually, since 2000, 8 of the top 10 recipients of Federal money are currently BLUE STATES. Texas - with all those illegal aliens - and Louisiana (remember Katrina?) are the only two "red" states in that group (this is according to USA.gov):

#1) Forida
#2) California
#3) Texas
#4) New York
#5) Pennsylvania
#6) Virginia
#7) Louisiana
#8) Illinois
#9) New Jersey
#10) Ohio

Your assertion isn't particularly meaningful anyway (gee, there's a shock), because it is the BLUE pockets within those states that receive the lion's share of Federal money.

And the extent to which "Republican"s accept government largess and believe in handouts is the extent to which they are embracing LIBERAL philosophy and are therefore WRONG.

Nobody's saying the Republican party isn't corrupt; it is because it emulates Democrats, whose default positions are lying and corruption.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 11:51AM

If you look at population density, it's no contest: those who live off the government, like you, vote for Democrats in far larger numbers.

Is that really a surprise?

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 12:00PM

I don't live off the government, TurdBlossom.

That's your excuse for everything that doesn't go your way, isn't it. In fact, my taxes will go up, but i'm not the selfish bastard you are. I don't mind paying more for a better, more civil country.

CJW| 11.15.12 @ 12:09PM

Purpie the Village Idiot p0sted the following after the election:

"Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials."

So pupie believes and approves that God killed over 100 people, destroyed homes, and injured many so that Obama could win.

Last month purpie wrote that Ambassador Stevens is responsible for his own death.

This is the message of the loony left: Purpie and his band of followers. They do not deserve any response other that ridicule and mocking

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 12:14PM

Turdblossom! That is witty. That is sharp. I'll have to put that in my journal. Purp said something original (not).

You're a liar. And you are selfish - you think it's selfish for someone to keep the money they earn, but not selfish for you to put a gun to their head and force them to give their money to you.

I would say you are just stupid, but the problem is that you are corrupt. You think you are owed.

And why are your taxes going to go up? jeez, I thought Obamacare was going to bring the cost curve down!!! Remember that one? Even the CBO can't say that with a straight face anymore.

Oh, let me guess: You're an "entrepreneur" who owns your own business. Wht is it this week, microchips? Cricket bats? I know - you make artificial eyeballs.

You guys all resort to the same lie. Can't you at least be original and call yourself a professional student, or perhaps Itinerant Regurgitator of Idiocy, or Rachedl Maddow Acolyte?

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 12:20PM

Oh - before you say it, I'll say it for you (try to picture a toddler whining):

Wah!!!! Bush Gave My Lord and Savior a Bad Economy! Wah!!! It's Bush's Fault!! Wah! Even though My Lord and Savior is Omniscient and Omnipotent, he can't fix the economy that that moron Bush left him with! Wah! War on women! Wah! Eat the rich! Wah, white people (except for me) suck! Wah, I WANT MY MOMMY'S TEAT!!!! WAH! The Utopia my Lord and Savior promised exists only on MSNBC and CNN and the NY Times!

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 6:55PM

Yes, it is selfish you want to keep all you earn - as if you are an island and did it all by your little self. You're obviously stupid too.

I don't need a thing from you or the government - but some do and it's tough you don't like paying taxes. It's the price you pay to live in this wonderful country. Like it or leave it.

Your taxes are going up? Why is that? Taxes have gone down under Obama. Are you that stupid you don't know that?
And you call me stupid. You know nothing about Obamacare. You don't know anything about your company's health plan. You know nothing even about your own taxes.
Do you even know what income you make? OMG, and you can vote? No wonder you LOST.

CJW| 11.15.12 @ 7:01PM

Purpie the Village Idiot p0sted the following after the election:

"Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials."

So pupie believes and approves that God killed over 100 people, destroyed homes, and injured many so that Obama could win.

Last month purpie wrote that Ambassador Stevens is responsible for his own death.

This is the message of the loony left: Purpie and his band of followers. They do not deserve any response other that ridicule and mocking

Stkman| 11.15.12 @ 12:26PM

Yes you do. You either work for the government or you are an educator, you are some sort of civil employee or you are unemployed. You're one of the above.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 12:32PM

I think on his grant proposal for federal funds, under "occupation" he writes "Arch Duke of filling balloons with urine for Occupy Wall Street."

Hey, he went to college for 7 years to get that gig. You'd be surprised how few jobs are available for people who majored in "Left-handed Epileptic Black Lesbian Haiku Studies."

I'm sure that nets him $250k a year. Hey, he's the rich. Let's get him!

Immutable| 11.15.12 @ 1:04PM

Purp, my 2% earner friend, you're for "a better, more civil country". That's wonderful. So, I'd like to hear about what efforts you make to achieve that goal. What charities have you given to in the last year? What philanthropic causes have you performed services for? How do you get involved in your community, ie., do you spend time working with Habitat for Humanity, work a soup kitchen, volunteer a few hours at your local hospital? I'm anxious to hear your reply.

Immutable| 11.15.12 @ 1:05PM

Purp, my 2% earner friend, you're for "a better, more civil country". That's wonderful. So, I'd like to hear about what efforts you make to achieve that goal. What charities have you given to in the last year? What philanthropic causes have you performed services for? How do you get involved in your community, ie., do you spend time working with Habitat for Humanity, work a soup kitchen, volunteer a few hours at your local hospital? I'm anxious to hear your reply.

chuck| 11.15.12 @ 4:21PM

Then send it all in, and pat yourself on the back for your generosity. For me, I'm giving my donations to the homeless guys begging on the side of the road. They appreciate it, say "God Bless you", don't blame me for their predicament, and are not attempting to destroy my way of life.

CJW| 11.15.12 @ 12:41PM

Mr G
You are wasting time trying to have a rational conversation with the idiot purpie.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 1:10PM

True.

Sadly, there's only one thing to do with the brainwashed. I hope that those of us who are not infected have the courage eventually to do it.

Then again, how many former devout Nazis after WWII said, "Hitler did WHAT? We had no idea that this whole master-race thing had a downside!"

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:22PM

Take a look at this pal :
http://content.ksg.harvard.edu.....-spending/

RCV| 11.18.12 @ 5:35PM

How to lie with statistics. What Gryzmlk doesn't tell us is that the blue states contribute the most federal tax dollars, far more than most red states, and far more than they get back. It's the red states (save Texas) that take out far more than they put in. They're the leeches.

Immutable| 11.15.12 @ 1:07PM

Purp, my 2% earner friend, you're for "a better, more civil country". That's wonderful. So, I'd like to hear about what efforts you make to achieve that goal. What charities have you given to in the last year? What philanthropic causes have you performed services for? How do you get involved in your community, ie., do you spend time working with Habitat for Humanity, work a soup kitchen, volunteer a few hours at your local hospital? I'm anxious to hear your reply.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 1:17PM

Well, he gave about $2,500 to "Purp's 80-inch 3-D Plasma TV Fund."

And he beats everybody's ass at Halo 3.

Oh, and he beer-bongs better than anyone else on his dormitory floor, and when they have parties, he volunteers to roll joints for the less dextrous.

Does that count?

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:27PM

Disabled Veterans, American Cancer Society, American Red Cross, Boys Town, Salvation Army, United Way, National Parks, Police and Fire Fund, Doctors without Borders, Food Depository.

Okay, you're turn. What's your point?

CJW| 11.15.12 @ 8:33PM

Purpie the Village Idiot p0sted the following after the election:

"Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials."

So pupie believes and approves that God killed over 100 people, destroyed homes, and injured many so that Obama could win.

Last month purpie wrote that Ambassador Stevens is responsible for his own death.

This is the message of the loony left: Purpie and his band of followers. They do not deserve any response other that ridicule and mocking

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 3:09PM

The Blue States have more rapes, murders, thefts, assaults, etc [and more migrations per capita] in one week than the Red States do in ten years, so what manure-hole? Hey heard about the Florida utility worker was nearly murdered in a NYC parking lot by the gangland thugs of your Blue States while trying to restore electricity after Sandy, DA??????

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:28PM

Oh, right, the Red States are Heaven and the Blue States are Hell... Yep, that'll get you some votes. El Stupido.

CJW| 11.15.12 @ 8:32PM

Purpie the Village Idiot p0sted the following after the election:

"Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials."

So pupie believes and approves that God killed over 100 people, destroyed homes, and injured many so that Obama could win.

Last month purpie wrote that Ambassador Stevens is responsible for his own death.

This is the message of the loony left: Purpie and his band of followers. They do not deserve any response other that ridicule and mocking

Anthony| 11.15.12 @ 12:02PM

Grzmlyk is exactly right. Free condoms, Big Bird, and forgiveness of interest on college loans were Obozo's campaign issues.
So now what's all this talk about the fiscal cliff? What fiscal cliff? For a year Obozo campaigned and not a word about some fiscal cliff. Isn't that interesting? (no, not really)
Yes, the pop culture has made morons out of a majority of Americans, and Obozo gave out various freebees to his base. We are now a post Constitutional Idiocracy.
Unemployment claims sky rocketed today, especially in Ohio and Penn. What were these morons thinking? Oh yeah, I just mentioned them, free condoms and Big Bird.
Oh well, let the collapse begin.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 12:23PM

Anthony, it's ok - who cares if America goes to hell and nobody can find work? I mean, all that really matters is that middle-aged professional students who are female will have all the birth control their promscuity can handle! Let's get our priorities straight, ok?

You know whose fault those skyrocketing unemployment claims is, don't you? Not Obama - he's the smartest man in the world and he CARES. No, it's George Bush's fault, of course!

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:29PM

Too bad you didn't worry about it before George Bush crashed the economy. Now you have to live with it. Grow up.

CJW| 11.15.12 @ 8:32PM

Purpie the Village Idiot p0sted the following after the election:

"Hurricane Sandy and Chris Christie was the Lord's way of pressing his thumb on the scale to tilt in the direction of President Obama. It was His punishment of Republicans for their lying and trying to cheat (Voter Suppression) their way to political victory, while espousing faith, freedom and constitutional credentials."

So pupie believes and approves that God killed over 100 people, destroyed homes, and injured many so that Obama could win.

Last month purpie wrote that Ambassador Stevens is responsible for his own death.

This is the message of the loony left: Purpie and his band of followers. They do not deserve any response other that ridicule and mocking

Nancy in NC| 11.15.12 @ 10:12AM

They have watched so much TV their brains have turned to mush. Even the commercials are stupid. Thanks to the media and the education system, we have a country of functional (barely) illeterates.

Nancy in NC| 11.15.12 @ 10:13AM

Illiterates...guess I qualify.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:06PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Mike in N.C.| 11.15.12 @ 12:58PM

"functional (barely) illeterates (sic)." Yeah, Nancy in NC, a fair share of them live in Red States like ours and vote Republican. What have you done to improve education in your county? Nobody is forcing either one of us, or our children, to watch TV. Right.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 11:31AM

So they are morons because they believe the safety net and government services should be paid for?
I think you should look in the mirror pal.
Still the fear-mongering? you still don't get that you lost because your ideas stink like the rotting bodies of the economic philosophers who theorized them.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 12:37PM

Safety net. That's rich. We borrow $188 million every hour of every day to make government run and that's a "safety net?" More like a "safety amusement park on its own island."

Yes, we should "look in a mirror, pal." I LOVE it when you get tough. I'll bet the other fungible liberal sitting next to you jostled his latte when you typed that.

Yeah, socialism has a proven track record; the rottting bodies of Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, et al prove that. Quick question: Why do you think they put walls up in those places to keep people IN, but in America, we can't keep people OUT? Why do you think they had no bread in the Soviet Union? Ponder that while you're in line for your next government hand-out - excuse me: for your next payment by Uncle Sam just for being YOU.

Mike in N.C.| 11.15.12 @ 1:01PM

How much of the $188 million we borrow every hour of every day is going to the Pentagon's budget to purchases weapons systems even the military says it doesn't want or need? Funny how those on the right seem to believe that the only government department that creates jobs and wastes no taxpayer money is the Pentagon.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 1:33PM

Well, since the military and international security assistance programs accounted for 20% of the budget in 2011, I'd round it up to about $38 million.

Of course, defense is actually manded by the constitution. But hey, I wouldn't mind cutting that by a third at least. Maybe even half.

Now are you willing to cut the other $150 million we borrow per hour to keep our "safety net" afloat? Those programs that aren't even mentioned in the constitution and amount to a perpetual vote-getting machine for the crooks you try to tell us "CARE" about the poor, the downtrodden, the victims of evil capitalists whose money socialism is all too eager to sop up?

No, you are not willing to cut them one dime, as your democrat senators and reps have proven year after year, decade after decade. They cry like stuck pigs if we even talk about cutting the rate of INCREASE in any of these troughs of other people's money.

Keep in mind that approximately 70% of every dollar spent on a government progam actually goes to the bureaucracy that props that program up; only 30% goes to the people who are supposed to get it.

Then again, when dealing with government corruption, greed and the liberal mentality, I guess a 30% efficiency rate is outstanding. Who cares? It's not YOUR money, am I right?

Just look at your record on "green" energy. You seem to think that it's a bargain to spend $10 on $5 worth of energy, you genius you.

Mike in N.C.| 11.15.12 @ 3:15PM

Grzmlyk,
I know you like the argument that defense is in the Constitution, but corporations are not in the Constitution. If you want to mount a strict constructionist argument, you have to be prepared to follow it to its logical conclusion. Why is an activist Supreme Court investing corporations with constitutional rights? They are a legislative creation, you say? Well, so is the social safety net.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 3:37PM

ipods aren't in the constitution either. That doesn't make them illegal, moron.

If they're not people, why do they have to pay taxes? And, to that point, corporations don't pay taxes. It might make your fat ass feel good to levy taxes on corporations, but guess what? They are tax collectors, not payers - they pass along those costs to you and me. Well, me; since you're on the government gravy train, you wouldn't know about that.

But you are of the ilk that thinks corporations are evil and government is good; there is no helping such an infantile and inaccurate view of the world.

You are a freeloading, ignorant and hateful, mean0-spirited piece of human debris.

BTW, it's not a safety net. It's a con game. You ought to know.

Mike in N.C.| 11.15.12 @ 7:15PM

Did you intentionally miss my point, idiot?
And, you sack of shit, you know nothing about me.

Trinacria| 11.15.12 @ 7:44PM

Goddamn, them there country boys git all worked up when theyze made to look like a fool.

Ricky Rudd! Tuit...

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:32PM

Who supports Socialism? Only you people talk about it.
Capitalism sent your jobs overseas to cheaper labor countries, not Socialism btw. What's the problem?
You have to stop whining and train for the jobs Capitalists will pay you for. It's your fault if you don't make enough money. Just ask the Cain Train! "Blame Yo'self" - stop blaming the other side.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 3:12PM

"should be paid for" by who, DA? Would that be the GD taxpayers of this nation, DA? Santa Calus doesn't pay for excrement, DA! He just redistributes the the funds from the taxpayers to the indigents like you, DA!!!!

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:33PM

Did you pay for your Social Security and Medicare? Well who else do you think pays for it, duh. Mr. Double DA...

Butch| 11.15.12 @ 4:36PM

Government services. You mean like the Internal Revenue "Service."

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:07PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:33PM

Okay, so what's your point?

Ralph Novy| 11.17.12 @ 11:33PM

"Wickedness," eh?

LMFAO.

Well, count me wicked -- if "wicked" means giving a damn about how fairly most folks are treated.

Kwan| 11.15.12 @ 7:41AM

Based on the last two Presidential elections it would seem that a candidate that most closely matches the profile of a Hugo Chavez or a Fidel Castro will be the winner. So who might the Democrat Party be offering us in 2016? Van Jones! Let's be honest the Snake Oil that Doctor Quack Obama is offering the country to cure it's many problems, will only put the patient (our country) in the intensive care ward. It would seem that a majority of the nation's voters are determined to learn the truth the hard-way, and Doctor Quack Obama will guarantee that they do just that.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:07PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Paul H.| 11.15.12 @ 7:44AM

"....despite the pervasive evidence of Barack Obama's incompetence and failure...."

Maybe Obama is not so incompetent as you suggest, perhaps his policies and actions are consistent with his plans to "fundementally " change the country?

SUBVET| 11.15.12 @ 9:59AM

Paul......no sh*t NWO..

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 11:08AM

""""You own it"""""!!!!

Intelligent Design| 11.15.12 @ 7:52AM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-G.....Presidency

Mike in N.C.| 11.15.12 @ 1:10PM

A screen name of Intelligent Design and a link to Breitbart. I'm cutting and pasting this one in places where I know it will provoke gales of laughter. Thanks.

Trinacria| 11.15.12 @ 4:28PM

Like down at Floyd's barbershop?

BTW - Heard a great one yesterday...how many N.C. hicks does it take to impregnate their sister?

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:08PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Mike in N.C.| 11.15.12 @ 7:21PM

Hey, asshole, I'm in exile in one of your dumb ass Red States that votes Republican. Connect some dot, moron.

Trinacria| 11.15.12 @ 7:42PM

Really? I'm on the back deck of a 6,000 sq ft mansion sipping a '93 Sassicaia and watching the sun set on the pacific ocean while contemplating whether to drive the Bentley or the Maserati to dinner with my stunning wife. If I'm a moron, perhaps you should give it a go sometime, sport; it doesn't suck!

By the way, that's Mr. Asshole to you, NASCAR.
By the way II, say "hey" to your sister for me.

Craig K | 11.15.12 @ 8:02AM

This is all a load of crap. The reason our national candidates lose elections is that they either don't believe or are unable to communicate core conservative ideas. Conservatism will win.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 8:45AM

Wrong. It has already lost.

Vic| 11.15.12 @ 10:40AM

Wrong, it has won and always will. Conservatism = common sense. Take a look at the house where all conservatives, barring a couple, were returned with record numbers. The reason some candidates lost in the Senate was because of Romney and his fluctuating stand!

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 10:51AM

Look who won the presidency. For a second time.

That is the best bellwether of the direction of this country as a whole.

And what is a Republican anymore but a Democrat with a sense of restraint? Think Boehner is a conservative? Paul Ryan may be a swell guy, but he is a statist.

Also, if you look at the popular culture, has there even been a pause in the breakneck pace with which we've been leaping leftward in the pat 50 years?

Yes, conservatism = common sense. And common sense has LOST. We now embrace an utterly false consciousness in this country where, if you're a liberal, it's ok to be greedy; it's virtuous of you to advocate putting a gun to people's heads and taking their money. Racism is great as long as it's against white people. Merit means nothing. Work means nothing. Economics mean nothing. Sciene means nothing. Everybody is entitled to live the lifestyle they want jsut because they were born - and you have to pay for it, and if you balk, it is YOU who are greedy.

We live in an Alice-in-Wonderland world now. Liberals urinate on common sense.

Vic| 11.15.12 @ 11:14AM

Would conservatism have won had Romney WON?? Who are we kiddin here. Conservatism is in America's veins and just watch how Obozo reneges on his tax hike pledge. You will see in 45 days

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 12:47PM

Conservatism is in American veins?????

Why have we nominated RINOS ever since Reagan? Why has our country careened further to the left every single day for the last half century? How did a non-entity, idiotic, doctrinaire moron like Obama get elected TWICE?

That proves to you that "c0nservatism" is in America's veins?

There IS no America anymore; we are a wholly-owned subsidiary of the "social democracies" of Western Europe, and we are going to follow them off the cliff just as surely as night follows day.

You have got to recognize reality and stop listening to those blabbering talk show hosts who continue to tell us we're a center-right country - if we're a center-right country, why are we a socialist country?

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:34PM

And Conservative drink it right up... you're sick.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 11:10AM

""""You own it"""""!!!!!!!!!!

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 8:44AM

Here's the truth:

1) The majority of Americans are Democrats, and more are being manufactured every single day. Conservativism is going the way of Zoroastrianism.
2) Democrats see the demise of the white population - which still comprises about 73% of the American people but is shrinking fast - as something that cannot come fast enough. They want white people expunged from the face of the earth - except, of course, for their own ruling elite (and most Democrats perceive themselves to be among the ruling elite - see Charles Manson's concept of Helter Skelter to get an idea) and parts of Western Europe as long as they remain more "progressive" than we are (notwithstanding the fact that all of Western Europe is circling the drain).

3) ) Liberals hate conservative values. Period. Unless we drop ideas like free markets, unencumbered meritocracy (i.e., not skewed by affirmative action and other forms of white guilt), our Judeo-Christian ethos, our idea that the genders are different, our aversion to genocide in the guise of abortion, our outdated concept of monogamy and the nuclear family and our desire to keep the fruits of our labor, we will never be a force in this country. In other words, we have to become Democrats.

4) Liberals have no use for the individual. Unless someone can be defined as a member of an abstract victim group - a victim of the white oligarchy - that person simply does not exist.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:37PM

At least 40% of the white people are liberal, idiot. Many liberals share conservative values. They're just like you. They are religious, kind, hard-working and with solid family values. You are an insulting little sore loser. I'm glad you lost and hope you keep losing. You deserve nothing better with your adolescent attitude.
You need to get laid. Must be tough for you.

You're completely delusional.
Kinda blows up your stupid ideas don't it?

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 8:45AM

(cont'd)

5) Liberals believe in free lunches. They see no irrationality in insisting that minimum wages be set at, say, $100 an hour. To liberals, money is something kept in piles in a hidden facility by rich fat cats.

6) Since republicans are political geldings first, last and always, liberals will continue to have a monopoly on all of the major streams of propaganda in this country: Education, entertainment, news, law, science and politics.
Whistle past the graveyard if you like, but there's a tombstone in there with America's name on it.

Stkman| 11.15.12 @ 10:50AM

"Unless we drop ideas like free markets, unencumbered meritocracy (i.e., not skewed by affirmative action and other forms of white guilt), our Judeo-Christian ethos, our idea that the genders are different, our aversion to genocide in the guise of abortion, our outdated concept of monogamy and the nuclear family and our desire to keep the fruits of our labor, we will never be a force in this country. In other words, we have to become Democrats."

So correct me if I'm wrong, but what you are saying is we should give up on our beleif's, our moral foundation and everything the forefathers stood for.? Do I have that right? Do I have it right that what you are saying is we must become liberals or anarchist to make it in the United States? If I do have it right, you're off your rocker. If I have it wrong then I apologize for mis-understanding what it is you are trying to say.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 11:04AM

I'm saying that an increasing majority the American people are not buying what conservatives are selling.

Romney was a friggin' RINO, for chrissakes; Ryan stands for keeping our entitlement superstructure in place. They still lost.

Not, in my opinion, because they didn't articulate conservative principles. Those who want to hear that message are dying out and being replaced by socialists. Today's average voter has been so propagandized, and lives in such a wealthy, licentious cocoon, that nobody understands, or cares about, reality anymore.

I'm saying that we can pretend it's messaging or the candidate or articulating conservative values if we want, but today's America despises what America used to stand for, despises white people, despises capitalism and despises the Judeo-Christian ethos.

Look around you, for chrissakes.

I don't like it - believe me, I grieve and mourn for this country. But wishing it were different doesn't make it so.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 11:11AM

Look at many of the pieces of advice we're getting from fellow "conservatives:" Bill Kristol thinks raising taxes on the rich is "no big deal" because they can afford it - doesn't that sound like a Democrat talking?

Krauthammer says we have to ease up on illegal immigation - doesn't that sound like a Democrat talking?

Some guy farther up on this page says we have to embrace unions - doesn't that sound like a Democrat talking?

Mitt Romney wanted to perpetuate the college loan grift - doesn't that sound like a Democrat talking?

Romney wants to index minimum wage to keep pace with inflation - doesn't that sound like a Democrat talking?

A huge number of Republicans are already embracing Democrat principles anyway, and to the extent they don't, much of that is just rhetoric to appease the few remaining conservatives among their constitutency. Once you get to Washington, you put on the Santa suit regardless if which party you belong to.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 11:14AM

Also, with the exception of Reagan, every single GOP nominee has been a RINO. Nixon? OSHA and the EPA and price controls. Liberal. Bush Jr? "No Child Left Behind," TARP, embracing protectionism, embracing inflation, "destroying capitalism in order to save it." It seems to me that our recent history proves my point.

Stkman| 11.15.12 @ 11:41AM

While I agree with much of what you say, I still look at it differently.

Every poll EVER taken on immigration shows that 70% of the population does not want ANY form of amnesty.

In the coming weeks many people who voted for Obama are going to find out what they did, and they will curse themselves for it. Some are seeing it now as they're employers cut their hours so they can avoid participation in Obamacare.

Retailers are going to feel it come Christmas as many are going to hold on to their money as they see the writing on the wall.

Obama will do like all dictators, he will over reach. The difference being we are an armed society and someone will fire that "shot heard round the world".
When it happens it is my beleif that our armed forces will wake up to the fact that we have a domestic enemy in the White House. We are already seeing a purge begin in our military. It is my beleif that the Genrals and Admirals know what is going on. They are going to sit it out when it comes to making war on their own. They understand their oath is to the Constition, not the dictator in the White House. America will overcome this, but only if we are willing to fight for it.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 12:57PM

I think you are too optimistic about the extent to which America has lost its collective mind.

I don't know what poll you are citing, but I know Fox News has conducted at least two - 2007 and 2009 - in which half the country favored amnesty.

But the reality is that we are allowing illegal immigration every single day - polls about our preferences are trumped by reality. Some of us may not like it, but not enough to force our political class to do a damn thing about it. Bush favored amnesty, you know, as did McCain.

Do you think they would do that if there were overwhelming opposition to it? It's a foregone conclusion that Romney would have caved in three minutes.

I dont' think voters will curse themselves no matter what happens under Obama. They will blame conservatives. Plain and simple. The media has put this mechanism in place and it is rock solid.

The military has long since become a political tool of the left - I have no faith in our military anymore, at least at the upper echelons.

The minute we go ove the cliff - and I don't mean the fiscal cliff, I mean when interest rates rise and the dollar collapses - all hell will break loose. And the government will print more money to stave off disaster. And the people will applaud.

Look at what's happened in Europe - that is OUR FUTURE!

Anthony| 11.15.12 @ 12:13PM

Once again, I have to concur with Grzmlyk. Look folks, as I've said in the past, it ain't us that's the problem, it's the majority of morons who were made such by 60 years of leftism invading and corrupting our culture.
Unless and until we can control 3 of the pillars of corruption, the media, academia, and the entertainment industry, conservatism will not sell, especially with the changing demigraphics.
Look and listen to the leftist trolls who post here, they are the very essence of leftist agitprop.
I'n afraid only a complete crash will right the ship.

Mike in N.C.| 11.15.12 @ 1:07PM

Myth # 1 Liberals believe in free lunches. So do conservatives. All that differs is where we want to spend the government's largesse.
Myth # 2 Science is propaganda.
Myth # 3 monopoly on propaganda. Ever heard of Fox, EIB and the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal, not to mention TAS?

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 3:46PM

Reality #1: Liberals believe in free lunches. How many of you worship at the cracked altar of Paul Krugman, the wizard of the perpetual motion machine?

Reality #2: Liberals believe that putting a gun to one person's head and forcing him to give his money to another person is evidence of virtue.

Reality #3: Global warming is a religion that has been refuted many times, but faith is unshakeable among the True Believers.

Reality #4: Fox, EIB and the editorial page of the WSJ are a small archipelago in the ocean of liberal propaganda. Liberal propaganda is ipso facto a lie. Ever hear of ABC/CBS/NBC/PBS/NPR/MSNBC
CNN/NY Times/Chicago Tribune/L.A. Times
Detroit Free Pres/ All of Hollywood, 95% of all magazines that are published, the entire music industry, all unions, all universities, all career bureaucrats?

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:38PM

Not America's tombstone - the Republican Party's.

Bob Grant| 11.15.12 @ 8:46AM

The re election of obama in '12 pretty much sealed our fate.

Nothing short of national suicide.

But if one were to study data from the exit polls and compare it with polls leading up the the elections, republicans MIGHT be able to find the magic potion to, at worst, becoming a strong opposition party, and at best, perhaps win future presidential elections.

The good news:

After pouring over the numbers, we should now know PRECISELY what demographics to go after to win elections moving forward...and those to completely ignore. I will focus primarily on 2 groups:

TO EMBRACE
The Hispanic Vote - We know with certainty now that 1/3 of the Hispanic vote is solidly conservative. How do I know this? Because Romney was the most anti-illegal immigration presidential candidate in recent memory and STILL WON A THIRD of the Hispanic vote. That's great news. A baseline has been established. In my opinion that's fertile ground. Republicans should embrace it. Imagine an America where the Hispanic community is a solid 40-45% conservative voting bloc? Success breeds success, and I believe Hispanics understand this probably more so than any other ethnicity...

Bob Grant| 11.15.12 @ 8:46AM

...TO IGNORE
The Black Vote - How many of you are tired of the runaround? How many of you are tired of being told how to "reach out" to this voting bloc, follow said advice, only to LOSE ground? This is extremely tiresome and depressing. The truth is, the racist thread throughout the black community, sewn by the African American Intellectual Community, is so strong that it's almost impossible break. Success does not breed success in this community and is not appreciated either. Just look at the explosive growth of the Black middle class in the last 30 years, primarily because of strong economic growth driven by conservative policy, only to be forgotten when a black man runs for president. Don't they realize by voting for HIM, the dream of a strong black middle class has evaporated? That many of those new black middle class Americans will soon be relegated back to lower class? Where's Herman Cain, Condeleeza Rice, and other successful African Americans selling the American Dream? It has to be explained with facts, not emotion. But it seems only emotion is what sells in the black community. This is very depressing to me.

So, our only chance now is to focus on what will work moving forward. And that means embracing a large and growing conservative Hispanic community.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 9:08AM

Sorry, Bob: Free stuff is free stuff, and the liberal, entitlement zeitgeist will corrupt the Hispanic population just as thoroughly as it did the black population - the black nuclear family (remember that oxymoron?) used to be conservative, filled with integrity and religious. Look at black culture today. The black middle class you speak of is not the predominant picture of black culture - it is the nihilistic, avaracious, lascivious, conspicuously consuming hip hop thug singing the praises of shallowness, violence and easy sex. And white people gobble it up.

That is the future of the Hispanic people as a bloc. Already we see that second-generation Hispanics in this country differ greatly from their hard-working parents - far lazier, far more entitlement-oriented and embracing the same thuggishness that has destroyed the black culture.

America is ROTTEN. All of the institutional edifices of this country are either under seige or have long since lost their structural integrity. America will collapse as surely as Europe is collapsing.

The ONLY way Republicans will win elections moving forward is to become Democrats.

Bob K| 11.15.12 @ 9:23AM

Ross is preaching the same old, same old sermons we have been hearing from the Republican Leadership for years. He, along with most of the Republican leadership, have no understanding of Democracy here in America which is the most powerful political force in our age.

The party leadership have written off the Reagan Democrat vote because of it's affinity with unions both private and public.

We have to face facts. In this Democratic Age it is impossible to get rid of unions. These people will not vote away the small access to political power that union membership gives them.

It was White Reagan Democrats who made the 2010 elections a success for the Republicans. It was because of that election that the Republican Party still controls the House of Representatives and it was because they stayed home that Romney lost the election. They did not vote for Obama but they were not going to vote for anyone who was a threat to their access to political power.

The Republican Party is going to have to learn how to live with Unions if it is going to survive. Once it does it will see an influx of hispanics who want to be something more than "people who will do the work that Americans won't do."

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 9:43AM

Let me take a wild guess: You are a union member.

The unions have "small access to political power?" HILARIOUS.

Does the name Richard Trumka(AFL-CIO) ring a bell with you? He was one of Esquire Magazine's Americans of the year in 2011. 2-3 visits to the White House per week. Anna Burger (successor to Andy Stern at SEIU) - about once a week.

The UAW singlehandedly destroyed the auto industry in America. And do you really want to take a look at what the teachers' unions have done to education? You can be an incompetent boob who can barely function and bring home $100k a year - thanks to the unions.

What country do you live in? When JFK made it legal for government employees to unionize, that was the metastasization of the bureaucracy.

So once again what you are saying is that the Republicans have to adopt yet another plank in the Democrat platform if they want to get elected.

Again, why not just join the Democrat party and get it over with????

Bob K| 11.15.12 @ 11:43AM

No I am not a Union Member. I am a realist. That is Democracy in Action. Take it or leave it. If the Republican party wants more white voters it will have to learn how to negotiate with Government Unions. They are not going away. Reagan understood that, he was an old Union man. He was head of one before he became California's governor. That is why he knew he could fire the Air Traffic Controllers if he played his cards right. The republican party can't roll over an play dead for them and act as if they don't exist. Tough negotiations, along with loss of jobs to foreign countries have weakened the private sector unions but have not made a dent in public sector unions.

Bob K| 11.15.12 @ 11:58AM

As for School Teachers Unions you saw what happened in Wisconsin when the Republican governor got tough with them. They screamed and howled but the voters backed the Governor.

Bob K| 11.15.12 @ 12:01PM

And the Teacher's Union damn near went broke fighting the Governor!

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 4:00PM

Man, of all the things people are saying will fix the GOP, I have to admit, this is the screwiest. Regan knew he would have to deal with the unions so he fired them? Ah, my interpretation of the PATCO firing was that Reagan said screw you to the union.

Government unions are a special animal, and these unions have to be expunged. PERIOD. If not, we will all be working for the faceless bureaucrats who contribute no discernable value-add whatsoever in any way, but who make $250,000 a year and get cushy pensions. How's that working out in Greece again??????

We should not be negotiating with hostage takers and thieves. Besides, as I said, they already have an inordinate amount of power. They are already calling the shots. A PATCO situation will never happen again, but it SHOULD. Those people are leeches.

Bob K| 11.15.12 @ 8:34PM

Quit complaining about it and pi**ing and moaning and tell everyone here how to go about "expunging" government unions in our democracy.

Do you have any ideas at all about how to save the Republican party or are you a disguised liberal troll taking up space here so Ross can get a big count on the hits to his articles?

What do you say?

Bob Grant| 11.15.12 @ 10:10AM

"The Republican Party is going to have to learn how to live with Unions"

Why?

Only 7% of workers are union members. Union membership is shrinking because they've driven away jobs, even entire industries.

They are locusts.

I'm not really sure why republicans would want to embrace unions. If they do, I'M GONE!!

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 11:18AM

BG, you need to re-tool your thoughts. "Only 7% of workers are union members" Wrong! EACH/EVERY CITY/STATE/FEDERAL EMPLOYEE IS A G.D. LABOR UNION MEMBER. Please give me a break! Romney was portrayed as a Bain Capitalist murderer-through-healthcare-witholder BECAUSE these unions knew what he would do as POTUS, and that is to downsize/eliminate/merge/combine etc governmental agencies/departments/departments etc to eliminated/reduce governmental expendatures. THAT IS WHY ROMNEY LOST AND HOW HE WAS SUBVERSIVELY PROTRAYED BY THE DOMESTIC TERRORISTS AKA DEMOCRATS. Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bob K| 11.15.12 @ 11:54AM

Bob,
See my response to Grzymlyk above. This isn't about "embracing them," this is about recognizing that they are here to stay in the public sector.

You might as well leave now because if no one is there to fight them at the negotiating table the Republican party is going nowhere.

Private sector union membership is down because of tough negotiations by management and governmental policies which encourage shipping jobs out of the country. Those people in the jobs that remain here are scared. You don't have to worry about them.

Bob Grant| 11.15.12 @ 11:57AM

"Private sector union membership is down because of tough negotiations by management and governmental policies"

I find it curious that you failed to mention to unethical behavior of union bosses and their unethical negotiation strategies. Straight out of Chicago.

Bob K| 11.15.12 @ 12:11PM

Sure! That helps too. Attrition as a result of greed in the leadership. Sounds like the people we send to Washington to represent us.

One can't can't think of everything when making these arguments.

Union members aren't dumb when their wallets are affected, even by their leadership. And it takes both sides to agree on "unethical" negotiation strategies. Or even bad contracts, which the Automobile Industry's management agreed to, resulting in the demise of the industry.

Bob K| 11.15.12 @ 1:57PM

And see Polish Knights and Albertus Magnus's posts below at 9:20 AM and following about the effect of "diversity" and "affirmative action" on white males. They will vote Republican because of this even if they belong to a Public Union.

Ralph Novy| 11.17.12 @ 11:39PM

You do indeed seem "realistic" in acknowledging that unions -- private and public -- are a means by which employees gain some measure of political power.

But you pretty clearly think that's somehow a BAD thing. Why? Why is that not a GOOD thing, Bob?

SUBVET| 11.15.12 @ 10:17AM

Bob ......I say screw the beaners send their asses back across the border, No ID no benies.

I am tired of sitting in the emergency room for 6 hrs. with a broken leg when they take up space for a cold.

I drive thru Jack in the Crack for a burger and can't understand the person taking my order.

They drive with no licence and cause accidents, we have hit and runs and drunk driving comming out our ass*s.........

I have nothing against them just come in the door the right way.

Bob Grant| 11.15.12 @ 10:37AM

Sub,

Reality is a cold bitch slap to the face. But reality can also be enlightening, if one is willing to fully embrace it.

I agree with your premise that at present, the majority of Hispanics are solidly democratic because of the "freebies", but you can't deny the third who aren't, and will never be, unless they are forced to take the freebies. The same can be said for many white conservatives.

BTW, I'd bet that the vast majority of conservative Hispanics are as anti ILLEGAL immigration as you or me. And for the exact same reasons!

Embrace them. Now!

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:09PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

SUBVET| 11.15.12 @ 7:30PM

Like I said Bob I got nothing against them I just want them to come thru the front door and assimilate.....I am tired of pushing #1.

In my business I hire them but with the same rules that goes for everyone. So don't give me that sh*t about embracing them.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:39PM

Wow are you delusional...

Guimo| 11.15.12 @ 8:49AM

The Party of Stupid once again loses to the Party of Evil. It's now up to the former to wage a vigorous opposition to the Obamination's policies.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:40PM

No, you lost to the Party of the People. Of course, YOU think they are evil. Ok, go with that.

JP| 11.15.12 @ 9:01AM

"Republican staunch opposition to civil unions for gays plays, at least among young voters, into the Democrats' portrayal of the GOP as out-of-touch, intolerant zealots."

Et Ross?

Funny, the GOP nominated one of the most moderate (read liberal) candidates in decades and failed to even match McCain's low turn-out numbers of 2008. Personally, I thought Mitt ran about as good a camapaign as he was able. Mitt and Ryan remained on message to a point of fault (little talks of gays, Jesus, abortion, or even Bengahzi). But, when he lost the blame didn't focus on his vanilla message, but on Social Conservatives.

And speaking of the young, I wonder how much of last years $1 trillion in welfare spending was consumed by 18-30 year olds? Could it be that many of them were only voting in their self interests (ie transfer payments via the federal government)?

I do agree the old model used by the GOP circa 1980-2012 is broken. But, I don't think we need more cowbell. What Obama did accomplish his first 4 years was neutralizing a large segment of our population with giving them free crap. There were no unemployed protesting at the barricades; there were no mass demonstrations of the poor. They were too busy shopping at Wal Mart.

Peppermint Tea | 11.15.12 @ 9:05AM

I noted a year ago that Romney needed to run from the right. Two things that appear to have lost the election:

1. He didn't stay aggressive after the 1st debate. He should have attacked O more on everything and turned to the camera at the end and said, "The Emperor has no game."

2. He didn't inspire enough Tea Party R's to come to the polls. Sarah Palin inspired more (The TP wing was not voting for McCain in 08.) He should have eaten at Chick-fil-A.
He should have hugged Ron Paul.
He should have flirted with Sarah Palin, or at least Bristol Palin.
He should have brought binders of women to the last debate and laughed at Axelrod.
He should have spoken directly to Jews and reminded them of O's Israel policy and said a vote for O is a vote for the Muslim Brotherhood.
He should have continued to attack Obama's green energy investments.

Too late now.

Archie| 11.15.12 @ 5:13PM

On the whole, I agree with this. Romney should have been more aggressive, but I would suggest different bullet points than yours, e.g., more specifically and continously pointing out obama's economic and fiscal failures, instead of just saying "I'll fix it." Regardless, I think (I have no proof, how could I) Romney's faith prevented him from going at obama as hard as he should/could have. I think dingy harry is the exception in this regard; he is a horrible example of a Mormon.

I also believe this. There are a growing number of bullies in this country, and republicans better learn how to fight back. Romney wasn't going to do that.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:41PM

He was a horrible candidate. He practiced for months for the 1st debate. He had nothing left in the tank after that and he sank.

Stkman| 11.15.12 @ 9:17AM

Wow, most of you still don't get it. You didn't get it when minorities were given more rights than white people. You didn't get it when when you blamed Ross Perot for George Bushes loss. You didn't get it when the Patriot Acxt was put in place. You didn't get it when the justice department refused to prosecute the black panthers, and you still don't get it today.
SO GET THIS! IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A FREE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TURN THE DAMN TV OFF, TAKE A LEAVE OF ABSENCE OR USE YOUR VACATION TIME AND HAVE MASSIVE MARCH ON WASHINGTON! IF THAT DOESN'T WORK YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGHT! WAKE UP! BOTH PARTIES ARE TOTALLY CORRUPT! WAKE UP! THEY WILL KEEP TAKING OUR RIGHTS, OUR MONEY AND OUR PROPERTY UNTIL WE MAKE THEM STOP! VOTING DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE AS THEY RIG THE ELECTIONS. BOEHNOR IS A LYING COWARD AND CARES NOT FOR YOU! WAKE UP!

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 10:07AM

Even if 5 million people marched on Washington, the mainstream media would a) ignore it; b) report it as a handful of nut-jobs; or c) demonize the selfish, crazy, bigoted "Tea party types" who want to resurrect the KKK.

Hell, 40 million could march on Washington and it wouldn't even make a dent in the liberal zeitgeist.

I completely agree that both parties are corrupt and that Boehner is, at best, a feckless weasel.

At some point Robert E. Lee knew the war was over. Even the Nazis, once they were shorn of Hitler, had to admit defeat. Ditto the Japanese after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

We have LOST THE WAR for America.

There are no more conservative victories in America to be had. We will have two parties: the Socialists and the Social Democrats. In other words, Democrat and 98% Democrat.

The fat lady is singing. It is over.

Stkman| 11.15.12 @ 10:34AM

Grzmlyk,
No we have not lost. So far the battles have been peaceful because we are trying to allow our democracy to work as it should.
A ten million person march filled with white males may not make the news but it would scare the living hell out of Congress and the Senate. The idiot in the White House only thinks he has power. He doesn't, he derives it from us. We need to make sure that our government understands clearly that we are not happy and that we will not go without a fight.
You go ahead and give up though Grzmlyk, you would'nt have the guts for it in 1776 and you don't have the guts for it now. Giving up now you only doom yourself to the worst possible scenario. I'm in it for the long haul. I'm in it for my kids and grandkids yet to be born, and if I die fighting for it, then I die. But I will never have to hang my head in shame in front of my kids or grandkids.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 11:30AM

You're in the right church, but the wrong pew! Marching is identical to the morons now in charge of this nation. How did we get to this point? Stupidity, laziness, selfishness etc? There are no more families, no more parents, no more morals, no more Christianity, no more church attendance, etc. What is this nation then? Sex/drug/alcohol/TV/sports/MTV/Oprah etc addicts, with children wandering the streets like zombies with no moral guidance, no parental love, no inspiration etc; so they turn to the domestic terrorists for same. Want to reverse it? Don't march like they do, but instead influence any/every one to turn back the clock to when this nation was great and why by doing the previously mentioned. Also teach/instruct those children to vote preperly for the patriotic candidates that voluntarily attempt to lead this country out of the darkness [even though they may be RINOS etc]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stkman| 11.15.12 @ 11:46AM

Ain't gonna happen Olde Farte. It's not the young people of todays generation that did or caused this. Our generation did. We gave our kids this mess and we need to fix it.
We have been stabbed in the back by the Republican Party. In other words, we have no party. We have no one representing us, the hard working middle class Americans.
If we want a country, if want to leave something good for our kids, then this is the wake up call. This is our generations call to duty.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 3:29PM

Again we're in the same church, but it wasn't MY generation [I'm a Boomer]. It started with the generation after mine, by not following historical standards of education, hard work, religion etc; and allowed themselves to evolve into sex/drugs and R&R of today's youth. All we had to do for your 'wake up call" was to vote properly for Romney/Republicans as a start of leaving "something good for our kids". Oh no, we had to listen to our labor union employers, to the Hollywood imbiciles, the domestic terrorists of the MSM via our hometown newspapers and via the WH and to do their suggested return of the Black Jesus to power. We lost because of 2 mil votes, from unconcerneds staying at home and the snot-nosers of the MTV/ESPN generation [and majoritively from the Richard Trumpka's and their unions]. We lost this country, and there is no second chance. 11/4/08 is over, the SCOTUS decision on WELFARECARE is over, and now 11/6/12 is over. All we had to do was vote our straight Republican ticket for a start to progress. All of the Reagans, the McCains, the Romneys, the Ryans, the Pauls can't help us if we fail to HELP OURSELVES [remember the old saying that G-D HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES?]!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stkman| 11.15.12 @ 5:21PM

Everyone keeps talking about two million who stayed home. How do you know they stayed home? Have ever thought that maybe just maybe the lying, cheating democrats just tossed those two million votes out? Think about it, every electronic voting booth glitch you heard about was when someone tried to vote for Romney it came up Obama, never the other way around. I think the two million voted, they just got screwed though, and thus all of us got screwed.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 6:37PM

You remind me of the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail - he's guarding a bridge and won't let King Arthur pass. They do battle. King Arthur decimates the Black Knight - cuts off his arms and legs, leaving a writhing torso. Arthur then mounts his horse and rides past what remains of the Black Knight as the Knight says, "Come back here! I'll bite your legs of!"

No, a ten-million person march filled with white males would not scare the hell out of Congress and the senate; it would be ignored on the news and, for the other 290 million Americans and various illegals, it simply wouldn't have occurred.

Besides, those are YESTERDAY'S voters. Not TOMORROW'S voters. Those voters are black, hispanic and women. Think craven politicians actually give a damn about anybody but themselves?

The assholes who vote Democrat - and, I might remind you, they've elected Obama TWICE, which means we HAVE lost, despite what you say - cannot wait to expunge this country of white males. We have targets on our backs. They think that WE are what's wrong with America.

If it came to war, you think today's military would back conservatives? Hardy har har.

I don't know what I'll do. Unfortunately, I can never change my perspective - I know that up is up and down is down, and that precludes me from adopting a liberal point of view. But I also know the government we have now is a corrupt, filthy tyranny.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 6:38PM

Hope springs eternal. But just look at this country today - our culture, our government, our populace - and tell me we haven't lost. We HAVE.

It's the second law of thermodynamics: all systems move toward a state of chaos. It's entropy. And that's what America has undergone.

We are now a kleptocracy, a thoroughly corrupt banana republic, and the hell with this country.

Albertus Magnus| 11.15.12 @ 9:20AM

This is way too complicated. Romney lost because there are a sufficient number of voters, both legitimate and illegitimate, who have been bought by government handouts and government jobs, to swing virtually any election. There are millions of people who receive government checks every month and millions who work for government at all levels handing them out. These people will NEVER vote for anyone other than a Democrat. And there are enough of them to control electoral outcomes on in to the future.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:10PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:45PM

Maybe YOU would vote that way, but most people vote for who they trust. Romney wasn't trusted - apparently not by y'all either. That is why he lost.

PolishKnight| 11.15.12 @ 9:44AM

Albertus is close. It's not just the handouts he means but racial entitlements. A Vietnamese man explained it to me: his generation is loyal republican having remembered what it was like to live under communism. But the younger generation know that "diversity" is simply code for special entitlements for non-whites and/or non-male. Even if you populated the Republican party with "binders full of" Hispanics, women, and Asians and dropped opposition to gay marriage, the Dems would still win because the promised benefits by the Democrats will still attract them while simultaneously white males and their spouses would either stay home or foolishly vote Democrat buying into some false narrative such as what happened in PA or Ohio.

That's the bottom line folks.

Albertus Magnus| 11.15.12 @ 9:51AM

Correct. And this is not likely to change. More likely will be economic collapse and riots in the streets when the freebies are cut off.

Note: many of those"white males" work for government agencies that pass out the freebies. Their jobs depend on corruption and they are unlikely to vote against it.

PolishKnight| 11.15.12 @ 11:30AM

I know many white males that are government workers that secretly vote Republican. Keep in mind that white males are CONTINUOUSLY reminded in government and even corporate workplaces and universities of their second class citizen status. If anything, it puzzles me that young white males should fall in love with leftism when leftist treats them with such contempt.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:10PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 6:47PM

I think I kind of get it, PolishKnight: It's an odd combination of self-loathing and narcissism.

They feel the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: Born White. There's the guilt. But since they "admit" it is the white race that caused the problem, they think their recognition of this "fact" proves their genius and inoculates them against being held guilty with the others, as long as they promulgate the genocide of white males. There's the narcissism.

Charles Manson figured it out: He thought the Tate/La Bianca murders would be blamed on blacks; he wanted to kick-start a race war that he was sure blacks would win. However, Manson thought blacks were too inferior, too stupid, to organize themselves for battle, and that's where Charlie and his followers were supposed to come in - they would lead blacks to victory and thus attain a position of deity in the new order.

And there you have the typical mind of today's liberal white male: Charles Manson.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:46PM

Riiight ... a VietNamese is an expert on America. That's scraping bottom boy.

Renaissance Nerd | 11.15.12 @ 9:50AM

That's how I see it too. I closed out my blog entry yesterday with a quote from Adam Smith that really pertains: "He is a bold surgeon, they say, whose hand does not tremble when he performs an operation upon his own person, and he is often equally bold who does not hesitate to pull off the mysterious veil of self-delusion which covers the deformities of his own conduct. Rather than see our own behavior under so disagreeable an aspect, we too often, foolishly and weakly, endeavor to exasperate anew those unjust passions which had formerly misled us, we endeavor by artifice to awaken our old hatreds, and irritate afresh our almost forgotten resentments, we even exert ourselves for this miserable purpose and thus persevere in injustice merely because we were once unjust, and because we are ashamed and afraid to see that we were so."
--Adam Smith, Theory of Moral Sentiments

renaissancenerd.blogspot.com

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:11PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

John786| 11.15.12 @ 10:00AM

The GOP lost the election. According to Ross thats actually a vindication of right wing policies. You LOST. What is it about the letters-L O S T - you guys dont get. The right lives in a fairy land where facts don't matter: wether its global warming, trickle down economics etc..Rember its Hillary in 2016. It's time to shape up.

Riff Raff| 11.15.12 @ 11:08AM

We get it bozo. YOU live in a fantasy land where facts don't matter. Inconvenient facts such as basic economics and the history of politics, which is a history of corruption and violence. A history you are oh so eager to repeat. Face the truth: The person you voted for is a dolt. A puppet for nefarious marxist egomaniacs who seek self enrichment at the expense of others. Hillary? Seriously?! Why do you really support the stupidest people in politics? Are you being paid for this? What does you analyst say about your unhealthy predilection for corrupt bozos?

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 11:26AM

NONE, I repeat NONE of your so-called Basic Economics have EVER worked. Even Milton Friedman admitted so before he died at 94!

You face it: The person YOU voted for is a dolt. A puppet for nefarious plutocratic egomaniacal billionaires and millionaires who seek self enrichment at the expense of the middle class and the poor.

Whoopsie - YOU LOST following that strategy. Please continue.

Riff Raff| 11.15.12 @ 11:31AM

Horse manure. Economics is economics. Not the "money-grows-on-trees" fantasy that you believe in. You are a tiresome dim-witted fool. Go away.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 11:32AM

"""""You own it""""""!!!!!!!!!!

PolishKnight| 11.15.12 @ 11:39AM

Purp, you certainly should enjoy and savor this victory but you should perhaps understand what you won: A third world racist and sexist agenda that undermines the limosine liberal lifestyle. You aren't making America into Sweden. You're getting Mexico and even you don't want to live in it.

In the meantime, even as you try to downplay the role that reverse Jim Crow racism and sexism played in the Democrat victory, your peers in the media can't help themselves. They're giggling about how irrelevant white males are. But they're so, so wrong!

There's still plenty of us around. We're 35% of the population. And if we insist our spouses vote with us, we can still win elections. And that's not even counting the minorities who might drop the Democrat party like a rock if they no longer get racist entitlements.

And in the meantime, as you do the victory dance, it doesn't change the fact that socialism doesn't achieve it's starry eyed agendas. The USSR had socialists winning every election since 1917. How did that work out?

So enjoy your victory. Just make sure you set your car alarm when parking in 100% democrat districts...

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:47PM

Yeah, insist your spouses vote your way, and we'll convince them to withhold pussae, and you will fold like cheap ass suits.
Any woman reading your tripe will have your nuts, pal.

Bob Grant| 11.15.12 @ 11:43AM

Apparently obama teaches his minions well. Do you get your bogus daily talking points on your free Obamafowwwwnnn?

Milton Friedman has been consistent in his beliefs his entire life.

I just love how you guys operate. I love studying it from afar.

It's truly a pathology.

Next, Perp, tell us how Reagan really was more like obama than Romney.

Of course, during Reagan's presidency, you were one of those who endlessly called him " a crazy old man who want's to start WWIII"..."a heartless old white man who purposefully spread AIDS in the gay community"..." a crazy old white man who concocted Crack Heroin and, Via the CIA, spread it throughout the black community"...."a crazy old deficit-creatin'-tax-reducin' crazy old white man"

In other words, your words mean squat.

You are a deceitful, forked-tongued, POS who wouldn't know truth if it bitch slapped you in the face!!!!

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:11PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:51PM

Milton Friedman admitted he was wrong before he died at 94.
David Stockman, Ronald Reagan's BudgetDirector, admitted they were fooling everyone and it WAS Voodoo Economics.
How much do you need to know to wake up?
I need not deceive, facts are on my side. Rush and Fox is on your side. Or should I say, the Woman Hater and GOP-TV.
I voted for Reagan - Twice. So you're completely delusional, happy in your own little rubber room. Understandable, since you lost to the Black President. Couldn't even beat him, could you?

Ralph Novy| 11.17.12 @ 11:44PM

Hmm.

That wasn't too well put, Purp, but I think I agree with most of your points.

And not only did Friedman and Stockman recant, but also, more recently, Greenspan.

This "trickle-down"/"the rich are the job-creators" bullshit needs to get a definitive "death blow." Would that Reagan were alive and lucid to deliver it!

JP| 11.15.12 @ 12:26PM

The GOP lost along the margins. Less than 500,000 votes in six states cost the Mitt the election. You seem blissfully unaware that over 48% of the voters voted against Obama. To put it in another persepctive Obama spent $350 million in 6 states to garner turn-out. He spent an additonal $400 million during the last 5 weeks inside these 6 states to eck out a razor thing margin of victory. That's $750 million spent inside a very narrow demographic. And to make my point even further, the President showered in 2011 over $1 trillion on the "poor" to either buy their silence or to encourage them to keep the goodies flowing. That comes to $60,000/person living below poverty.

If you think the Dems can replicate 2012 in 2016, dream on. The world in 2016 will be a totally different place. The Dems and 51% of the voters now get live by their actions. It is too bad we shall all suffer.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:53PM

Well, we suffered through 30 years of your crap, so suck it up. You don't need the government - Remember?

Frank Drackman| 11.15.12 @ 10:10AM

Can I be Frank about this Naive New World Order our Evolving Master is leading us to...
Black Votes gonna be solid DemoKKKrat for the foreseeable future, umm until about the 2412 election.
And the Hispanics? First of all, saying they're all hard workers is like saying all Black Mails are criminals.
OK, its close to being true, but even if they were, they're still pissed about the Alamo, Speedy Gonzalez Cartoons, and that Cheech & Chong aren't on Mount Rushmore.
Where there's room for growth is in the Great White Dopes, when even my 17 year old Jewish Princess daughter is quoting Ann Rand there's hope, few more years like the last 4 and David Duke could get elected...
Frank

Bob Grant| 11.15.12 @ 11:47AM

2412?

My you're optimistic.

Bob "pessimistic on blacks doing the right thing and voting republican" Grant

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 10:31AM

"Congratulations to the Democrats and Young People! You now own it and you can't blame Bush. The next terrorist attack you own it.
Can't get a job after graduation, you own it.
Sky rocketing energy prices due to Obama's EPA shutting down the energy producing states, you own it. A nuclear Iran, you own it.
Bowing to the Soviet Union, you own it.
Another severe recession, you own it.
A volatile border with Mexico, you own it.
Trouble getting good health care, you own it.
Higher health insurance costs and health care costs, you own it. No budget, you own it.
Our allies mistrust, you own it. Another trillion of debt, you own it. More Benghazi situations, you own it. No one willing to join the military, you own it. Trouble getting a loan to buy a home, you own it. More dependency on food stamps, you own it. Trouble finding good employment, you own it. Several part time jobs instead of a good job, you own it. A World Government, you own it.
The UN governing the United States instead of ourselves, you own it. A Senate that will not bring any legislation to the table even if it is "Dead on Arrival", you own it. China controlling our world trade trampling all over us, you own it. Loss of our freedoms as we have known it in the past, you own it. A dictatorship instead of a democracy that follows the Constitution, you own it. Less take home pay and higher living costs, you own it. Driving a car that looks like a toy, you own it...."

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 11:23AM

Sounds like the Bush Administration's policies. Seriously, that's your critique? That's what you learned from getting Whomped in the election? Geesh!

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 11:33AM

""""You own it DUMBAXX"""""""!!!!!!!!!!

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:53PM

Well, you're gonna live it. So what's your point?

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 10:32AM

".....More government corruption and lies, you own it. More toleration of extreme and fanatical Jihadists, you own it. Terrorist attacks called work place incidents, you own it. Your revenge instead of love of country, you own it. President George Bush is out of it now, and there is not another good man for you to vilify and lie about. In a way I am relieved that another good man will not be blamed when it was impossible to clean up this mess you voted for. Have a good day."

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:55PM

Naw, Bush will be blamed for 80 years, just like Hoover still is.
53% of Americans still blame Bush for the economy. I know it kills you, but it's true. And, funny too.
America is smarter than you thought they were.
How you like being on the government dole?

scotchieguy| 11.15.12 @ 10:34AM

Maybe it's as simple as this--Americans now value security over freedom. Benjamin Franklin said, "once the people discover they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." 2012. R.I.P.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:12PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Mike Daly | 11.15.12 @ 10:37AM

The problem with all these postmortems is they forget that Romney took the lead in all the polls. He won the debates with Obama - dominated them, as even the Mainstream Media acknowledged. Obama won because the Demcoratic machine managed to get out a level of the slacker vote that likely caught even them by surprise.

There is no lobby for gay marriage as the Democrats pretend or any of that - there is a lobby for government hackeramas and for slackeramas and the Democrats tapped into them,.

Stkman| 11.15.12 @ 10:57AM

The Democrats committed massive fraud, thats what they did and we all know it. The only one so far with guts enough to challenge it is Allen West.

If Carter was up by 5 points the week of the election and Reagan won by 9 points, then how does Romney who was in the lead or tied in every poll lose by 2 points. Figure it out, it was stolen.

When every error in every electronic voting booth favored Obama and not one single error anywhere favored Romney, figure it out, it was stolen.
Damn, wake the hell up people. It's going to hit the fan. Mark my words, within two months you won't be able to buy a gun. It's coming so get ready now!

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 11:21AM

Yeah, blame voter fraud.... hahahaha, how stupid.

Oh, the gun thing again - Grow up and stop whining about nothing that is even close to happening. Stop watching Fox and listening to Rush and you might see the real world for a change.
God, they have you all so brainwashed you're stupid.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 11:35AM

"""""You own it""""" and additionally, YOU ARE A DUMBARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stkman| 11.15.12 @ 11:49AM

Purp, the dog *hit I step in still smells better than you.
It's coming Purp, it will be here soon.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:12PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:57PM

You're irrelevant for the next 4 years... and you think that smell is ME? Naw, it's your own dribbling down your leg as you whine and snivel your way to oblivion.

Stkman| 11.16.12 @ 8:38AM

I'm not whining Twerp, I'm getting prepared for whats coming. You're too damn stupid to see it though.

RCV| 11.15.12 @ 12:26PM

Stkman - Are you really this dumb? By your logic, Reagan must have won by "massive voter fraud" since Carter (according to you) was ahead by 5 points in the polls and Reagan won by 9 points.

If the GOP had paid as much attention to ground organization as it did to raking in hundreds of millions for superPACs and spending it all on media advertising -- if the TASers who spend all day here blogging had spent the same amount of time working in the precincts doing the hard job of political organizing -- then the results might have been different.

Stkman| 11.15.12 @ 3:31PM

RCV,
Some of us, including the GOP would rather win playing by the rules. Your side though, you guys make up your own rules as you go along. Two can play at that, and when our side starts playing like that I'm guessing you'll go into hiding.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:58PM

And, yet Ohio, Florida and Virginia tried to suppress voters from voting - but that backfired, didn't it, Brainiac. I'm so happy you lost. You deserved it.

Stkman| 11.16.12 @ 8:39AM

Suppression is asking someone to show their identification? If thats so, the fraud is refusing to show it.

Who Knows?| 11.15.12 @ 10:57AM

51.3% of adult eligible Americans voted this election.

Almost HALF of the citizens DON'T CARE about who is president.

Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.

IMHO, then, by adding the people who voted for Santa Claus aka Obama, that means over THREE out of FOUR of us say---SO WHAT?

Massage all the statistics with all kinds of classes, from race to wealth to sexual orientation to whatever---it's OVER.

Another hoary cliché for your digesting---

When the cat's away, the mice will play.

Want another--

A magician uses diversions to keep watchers from seeing what he's really doing. That's Obama! And, he fooled lots of people.

Well, his marks also included HALF the population, who weren't even watching---the non-voters.

All you highly engaged people who comment on this blog site, and especially top dogs like Ross, are simply elite political addicts, and for the average American, might as well be doing higher math.

It’s kaput---enjoy the ride DOWN the tubes.

JD| 11.15.12 @ 11:09AM

Ross is incorrect in implying that all Republicans need to do is to become pro-abortion and pro-gay and they'll win elections.

He is absolutely correct in saying that Democrats grossly misdefine Republicans in the public eye, such that every Obama voter who's asked gives a reason for opposing Republicans that indicates that he has been misled about what conservatism is.

I have yet to find an Obama supporter in this election who has voiced opposition to a genuine position of the Right. So Ross is right - no one voted against conservatism in this election. They voted against straw men.

The most destructive comment used against Republicans in this election wasn't Akin's or Mourdock's; it was Romney's 47%. It should have been a less damaging comment than "the private sector is doing fine" or "you didn't build that", but the MSM didn't spin them that way.

Mike in N.C.| 11.15.12 @ 11:12AM

The problem the GOP has is that Akins, Mourdock, Bachmann, Santorum and Romney and Ryan, among others, candidly articulated what the majority of the party actually believes. In your hubris, you thought the majority of the nation was "all in" on your agenda.

I found a spot on NPR about the recent Republicans governors' conference interesting. The debate among the governors, maybe the entire party, about the party's future appears to swirl around three options: (1) double down of the party's agenda and find a real conservative to run in 2016 (2) get out of the bubble and deal with the reality of the country as it actually is (3) change nothing, but figure out how to "package the message," i.e. instead of being straight with the voters figure out how to con them. I suspect the third option will prevail.

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 11:19AM

Comments like "GOP portrayed", "Obama Economy", "Non-Lily White", "PERCEIVED Bigotry", "Not Indictment of Conservatism", "Mistake voting for Obama", "Converting to another Religion" all point to one thing - YOU ARE DELUSIONAL and can't blame yourself for your own failures.
Murdoch, Akin and others voted for or sponsored bills that created the foundation of their thinking in the House Republican bubble.
It was the POLICY that you lost on, not the communications. Get a pair and take it like a man. Look in the mirror and ask the hard questions, stop whining, sniveling and blaming everyone else.
Then and only then can you begin to the long slow process over the next 30 years of becoming a real political party.
Until then, get used to LOSING. The Democratic Coalition is cemented and you will be in the minority until you wake up.

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 11:36AM

""""You won it""""" DA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Purp| 11.15.12 @ 8:59PM

Yes, we did! I can honestly say - You're right FART!

J.C.Eaton| 11.15.12 @ 11:25AM

Grymz has a pretty good handle on what the state of things are these days. American voters include a massive segment of the intellectually soft but there are high-IQ'd people over there too. More frquently, common sense is the issue, not merely mental horsepower.Brains or lack of them, IS a problem for the Republicans but it is a problem too many of them share withe Libs. I think the main issue is that too many of our fellow citizens are too invested in the "hooray for me and sc--w the United States and the saps that pay the bills"schtick. Kowtowing in increments to leftists[ala Mr. Boehner, et. al.]blurs any real distiction between the Parties and a gagging voter is not a dependable voter. BTW Mr. Kaminsky....why the gratuitous shot at Mayflower descendants? Personally, I'm one and our little clique makes a lot more sense than 70% of American Jewry who are liberal first and loyal support for the Jewish state whatever. Best,

Jim Sweeney| 11.15.12 @ 11:36AM

About the Asians, they love democrats because Asians are huge users of social services no matter how much they earn. I live in an Asian community; my ex is Chinese and I know how Asians lie about their income, lie to get free medical and food stamps. Remember where they come from: a place where the goodies come from the government.

RCV| 11.15.12 @ 11:48AM

In fact, Asians are among the most conservative and pro-business voting groups among minorities. Could be easy pickings for the GOP if they had any sense.

Ralph Novy| 11.16.12 @ 6:55PM

"Sense" and decency.

But they have neither.

They have only the basest animal instinct to win/survive.

I'd be pissed off, but what good would that do? It'd be like raging against a vulture for devouring a crusader's eyeballs.

Ralph Novy| 11.17.12 @ 11:48PM

Hmm. That didn't come off well. I was being sarcastic, but I think it wasn't clear enough.

Sorry.

RCV| 11.15.12 @ 11:47AM

One of the few truly perceptive analyses of the GOP's loss and it's only hope for future relevance. There is also a fine article in the new New Yorker on Republicans in Texas and how they will approach the coming Hispanic plurality in that state or face extinction there.

Simon Templar| 11.15.12 @ 11:57AM

I read the many and varied comments that all of you post, even the trolls at times, and it strikes me that all of you are correct, except the trolls, that is.
What seems to allude most people is that there are many facets, reasons, and explanations that do not necessarily contradict each other but rather form the whole picture. This is life, folks, there are no easy, simple, and one track answers or holy grail.
Yes, demographics are working against us, and have been constructed by the Party of Evil as such.
Yes, we have crossed a threshold in a sense, but it has been crossed before and new ones will be crossed.
Yes, we are running out of time and we better wake up and gets organized and try new strategies.
Yes, it is about communication but that is not all of it, its is about enculturation, education, and media control as well among other facets.
Yes, it is about goodies and handouts but it is more than that as well.
Yes, it may be too late but there are signs and some hope that it might not be as we did win and control most state offices and the house.
Yes, we lost, but by what and why. Mass voter fraud and voter suppression. The question is do we have the balls to expose this and do something about it?

Ralph Novy| 11.16.12 @ 6:58PM

What you say doesn't "allude" ME, Simon.

It "escapes" me; it "astounds" me; it "exasperates" me; it "saddens" me. But it never "alludes" me.

Simon Templar| 11.15.12 @ 11:58AM

Given, those that protested by staying home, those that voted for the 'Ron Pauls' or whomever, and those that did not vote for the Fraud, has the majority of America really decided to accept socialism? Or is it more like a small but powerful and loud minority won that represents a smaller proportion of the majority of Americans of voting age?

Simon Templar| 11.15.12 @ 12:09PM

It is also true that some explanations are just flummery and others are half truths. One of them is that we must somehow continually adopt this policy, or this position, if we want to win. You only do this when you have truly decide that you were wrong about something and change course, not when you just want to be popular or win elections. You do not see the Party of Evil doing this, so why should we continually compromise and betray our values?
The thing that the Ross's of the world do not get is that this process never ends and you give your right to determine your destiny, values, and the shape of your civilization to your opponents who through incremental demands, intimidation, and threat slowly evolve you. Ross at this point likes his economic freedom to make lots of money and live a prosperous life with freedom to travel, buy his kids what they like, and choose his occupation. Great. Good. He mistakenly thinks this is safe if he gives into everything else demanded by the Left and remains popular among his liberal friends and cohorts as one of those guys that cool and tolerant and "enlightened." What he fails to understand is the enemy and their whole agenda. His little world is not safe. They will eventual ask, or I should say demand, for that as well.

Ralph Novy| 11.16.12 @ 6:59PM

Rubbish.

... that smells bad.

Ross Kaminsky| 11.15.12 @ 12:13PM

Many of you are putting words in my mouth (or pen) that I did not say or write. For example, I did not say that the GOP should become pro-abortion. I did say that they need to not sound like extremists when they talk about it, especially when middle-aged white men talk about it.

I also didn't say that the election was an endorsement of conservatism. I said that it is not the repudiation of conservatism that the left would have us believe, not least because (as many of you have stated) Romney was not a credible conservative.

I am saying that the GOP needs to moderate substantially on civil unions. That particular issue is poison for Republican electoral chances.

JP| 11.15.12 @ 12:38PM

Despite the GOP's poisonous position concerning Civil Unions, they still garnered 48% of the vote. Funny, in that Mitt and Ryan ran a values free campaign. Their campaign was fiscal this, or budget that (which I agreed 100% on). Not a peep about abortion, gays, or contraception. They didn't even try to remind voters about Obama's votes concerning abortion when he was a state senator. Or the fact that in spite of thier state's progressivism, Californians continue to refuse civil unions at the ballot.

But in general the GOP avoided all mention of these social issues. And they still lost.

I don't know about Aikens. but Mourdock probably would have lost to Donnely, even if he avoided the "a" word. They were in a statistical tie at a time when Hoosier voters would give Mitt a 12-15 point margin of victory. Mourdock's campaign was about as unfocused and listless as one could run. He deserved to lose.

J.C.Eaton| 11.15.12 @ 12:42PM

With due respect: the apologia was weaker than the original argument. You say in fewer words what you said earlier in a lot of words: "rapproachment." Best,

Bob Grant| 11.15.12 @ 2:19PM

Ross,

Come on. You can Monday morning quarterback all day long but the bottom line is Romney provided a (((clear))) alternative to the obama socialist agenda.

By picking Ryan, he ran on a platform that would seriously address the nation's many fiscal and monetary problems, as opposed to a party that cannot even pass a budget.

To nitpick Romney for not PERFECTLY positioning himself on social issues does not help the cause, but might give you a little self-satisfaction.

If I wanted this garbage, I'd read articles from the guy who refuses to wear anything but black over at Reason.com

Trinacria| 11.15.12 @ 4:37PM

Concur. One could present the most cogent, compelling, and well crafted rational arguments for conservative principles, complete with solid historical evidence and irrefutable empirical data, but if you're in the jungle delivering the message to primates, it matters rather little...

CJW| 11.15.12 @ 5:11PM

Bob,
I agree. Much of this blame Romney misses the mark.

It is his fault because he did not explain this or that. We are not Dems that need to be spoon fed and driven to the polls or coerced into voting by unions.

We know the issues and can distinguish between Obama v. Romney, or Obama v. McCain, or Obam v. A Can of Pepsi.. If some of us are too lazy or stupid enough to stay home or vote third party, then it is the fault of the voter.

Gary Johnson and Virgil Goode got over 1,300,000 votes, and over 2 million stayed at home that had voted for McCain in 08. There is the margin that eleted Obama. I spoke with a Goode voter who hates Obama, was complaining about the stock market dive this week, but said he "felt" great about voting for Goode because he does not like Romney. There are many who do not seem to see the causal connection between not voting, voting for a third party and the election of Obama.

Dems had the same problem in 2000. Over 2,800,000 voted for Ralph Nader nationwide and over 97,000 voted for Ralphie in Florida. Those were Dem votes that would have elected Algore since GWB won Florida by about 600 votes.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 7:10PM

It won't work.

Even if we do "moderate" on civil unions, it won't convince anyone; they'll simply accuse us of pandering to get votes.

And even if that were to work, what's next? They'll go after every single view we hold. We'll have to "moderate" on the next one, then they'll move to the next one. And we'll have to "moderate" on that too. And it still won't get us votes. We'll have to "moderate" every position, one by one, until there's not a dime's worth of difference between us and Democrats.

And I think the election WAS a repudiation of conservatism. And of white people. That cannot be overstated - there has been a shift in this country; there is now palpable animosity toward white males. They are inherently untrustworthy and greedy, according to liberal dogma.

I hate to sound like a broken record, but talk to people under 30. Look at the shows they watch, the music they listen to, the people they emulate, the relationships they form. That tells you far more about where we're headed than any election loss parsing.

Jack London| 11.15.12 @ 12:49PM

Well Ross, as you well know most of your readers are extremists, and so are you on economic and social policy. If by a 'credible conservative' you mean all the extremism except for not being openly anti-gay that won't work, will it.

JP| 11.15.12 @ 1:10PM

so, almost 49% of the voters are extreme? From a statstical point of view that is absurd?

Jack London| 11.15.12 @ 2:10PM

You can't read JP, which is ironic as I was referring to readers of AmSpec. Do you thing 49% of voters will vote for an AmSpec platform? How do fancy putting Jeffrey 'mad Nazi' Lord in front of the electorate? Or Ross himself, who would throw anyone who can't afford health insurance in the trash?

Bob Grant| 11.15.12 @ 2:29PM

"Or Ross himself, who would throw anyone who can't afford health insurance in the trash?"

Get lost, you liar.

Grzmlyk| 11.15.12 @ 7:13PM

You are so marinated in cartoonish, puerile liberal dogma that what's left of your IQ couldn't spell "cat" if we spotted you the "c" and the "t."

What's next? You start burning witches in the center of town?

chuck in st paul| 11.15.12 @ 1:39PM

Conservatives are not anti-gay. "Hate the sin but love the sinner."

What conservatives ARE against is nonsense like 'gay marriage', which is an oxymoron of the first order. Same sex couples have most of the legal methods available to traditional couples with a few exceptions that can be fixed specifically.

Dobbs| 11.15.12 @ 1:02PM

The GOP's epitaph would be ...

RIP, died of repeated messaging defeats

Dobbs| 11.15.12 @ 1:07PM

The GOP needs to open up an annual "Messaging University" and require all Republican candidates, especially those wanting party funding, to attend.

Trinacria| 11.15.12 @ 4:40PM

Given the present state of the electorate, perhaps they should consult Jane Goodall in crafting said message...

woodsman1st| 11.15.12 @ 1:12PM

This was the most fraudulent election in the history of our country; and not one official is doing anything about it.

woodsman1st| 11.15.12 @ 1:25PM

Mitt Romney gave away the election by not

mentioning Benghazi in the 3rd debate, or at any time after. Mitt Romney fought like a girl....a little girl!
Our military was once again denied the right to vote. Dishonest and disgraceful.
Cities,. Towns, and States with more votes counted than their were voters...disgraceful!~
Crooked machines voting for Obama when Romneys names was the choice, nothing done about it....disgracefull!
Intimidation by the Black Panthers in their black uniforms basically closing down 32 voting precincts; The NAACP forcing out the legal people appointed to watch over the Precinct, then moving blacks to the front of the line, handing out water to black voters, encouraging voters to vote for Obama and intimidating white voters. All of this well publisized and not one person of authority tries to stop it; DISGRACEFUL.
EVERY ONE OF THOSE OFFENSES COMMITTED BY DEMOCRATS......
COWARDLY, UNAMERICAN AND DISGRACEFUL!

chuck in st paul| 11.15.12 @ 1:35PM

Man, oh man... you guys missed it by a mile.

Obysmal won because of a confluence of the leeches and the eurotardics. The leeches all voted for more Cargo. You know, obamaphones and EBT cards. What I call the eurotardics have been propagandized into believing that Europe is morally and culturally "better", so they voted for "France". What they are going to get is "Greece".

"America" is done for. The GOP will not win any federal level power for decades now. You folks are right about the schizophrenic nature of the GOP. The east coast patricians are in direct conflict with the fly-over country citizens.

I don't care what the 'experts' say, we need a robust third party of conservatives. Screw the GOP.

Intelligent Design| 11.15.12 @ 1:38PM

333,000 aggregate votes in 4 states made the difference. Romney lost by the equivalent of one small city in the entire U.S.
President Airhead does not have a mandate for anything. Republicans control the House and 30 state capitols.
Half of all voters are disgusted with Airhead, and the other half are so ignorant that they voted for him.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-G.....Presidency

Ralph Novy| 11.17.12 @ 11:52PM

"Intelligent Design."

Uh-huh.

That's why The Lord so intelligently designed the human body to have a pleasure center placed so close to a waste-disposal facility, right?

Kingofthenet| 11.15.12 @ 1:39PM

There is NO problem with the Republican Message, it got thru loud and clear....and was rejected. Here is an idea, go all out 'Libertarian' and leave the social issues for a new 'God' party.There is nothing Conservative about messing with womens vagina's or what goes on between two consenting adults.

chuck in st paul| 11.15.12 @ 1:44PM

Killing babies is not 'messing with women's vaginas'.

JP| 11.15.12 @ 1:57PM

I'm sure Roman Polanski would agree with you 100%.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 11.15.12 @ 2:18PM

...he would add consenting children, coerced children, children under the influence of unlawful drugs and alcohol...

Oldefarte| 11.15.12 @ 3:37PM

"messing with womens vagina's"? You've been reading DREAMS FROM MY FATHER again haven't you???????

chuck in st paul| 11.15.12 @ 1:43PM

I forgot to add that there will not be any going back to 'original America'. The big government socialists took over three extremely important sectors - education, the press, and control of massive wealth of foundations. They are unbeatable for the foreseeable future. Get used to it.

sixgun98| 11.15.12 @ 1:51PM

If all the wipper snappers out there voted for Obama just because he supported gay marriage then the apparatchiks in our universities have finally succeeded in replacing education with indoctrination. Maybe after four more years of unemployment and the inability to "consume" then newest i-gadgets eminating from Apple, these "yutes" will have a change of heart. Opposition to gay marriage from us on the right is no more despicable than opposition to fossil fuels is from those on the left. Ross and all other establishment Republicans and/or RINOs have no convictions. They continue to offer up candidates that also have no conviction. That is why the Republicans continue to lose elections, and is the reason I refused to vote for Romney. Out of 300 million people this is the best we can offer? Obama and Romney? The choice was between a rabid Socialist who is sold out to the labor unions and every other Marxist and is determined to destroy America and an elitist, moderate, RINO who is sold out to big corporations and is determined to bankrupt us by never-ending wars and foreign entanglements. Either way we are heading over the cliff, I'd just assume that we end it quickly, so we can begin the process of going our separate ways, hopefully peacefully, but more than likely through chaos and violent upheaval. My powder is dry and I'm just waiting for the call.

KyMouse| 11.15.12 @ 2:19PM

I have a 27-year-old cousin from New Jersey who illustrates the problem we're facing:

About ten days ago, after H. Sandy, when my cousin was here for a visit, she gushed, "Obama is sending tankers of gasoline to New Jersey and New York! And the people won't have to pay for the gas! Obama is going to pay for it!"

I asked her if Obama was planning to pay for the gasoline out of his own pocket. Of course, she simply said, "No," and looked at me reproachfully. How dare I question His generosity, His leadership, or His wisdom!

I tried explaining to her that she herself is among the millions paying for that gasoline. Helping people is our duty, but the government cannot be relied upon to do it efficiently and in a cost-effective way.

She ignored me, writing me off as the spectre at the banquet. And of course, she voted for Obama. Twice.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:14PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Neatsfoot| 11.17.12 @ 1:40PM

That gosh darn 47% hit by hurricane Sandy, hoping the government would give them temporary housing food medical supplies, whatever, . . including fuel.

Joe D.| 11.15.12 @ 2:32PM

Ross, Ross, Ross will you get off you soap box about the 2% gay population. That is not the only thing youth will vote for. And if so they would not have made the difference if the Republicans had done a better done with the lies about Romney on women. Also, the latinos (not illegal immigration) since more then 50% agree with the whites.

Why don't you talk about the moderate who did not attract enough conservatives or voter suppression and fraud. He only lost by 400,000 votes in 4 battleground states.

We don't need the gays and their sexual preverted lifestyle. And the youth need an education lession for sure. We need to get the education back from the left.

Marc Jeric| 11.15.12 @ 2:39PM

Another decent RINO bit the dust. He never mentioned Obama's mentors Davis, Wright, Ayers; never mentioned the Benghazi and Fast & Furious muder coverups; he never warned us of the pending massive vote fraud mounted by Holder and his "community organizations" (i.e, soviets); etc., etc.

MarshallH| 11.15.12 @ 2:42PM

Lol!! Some republicans are truly delusional, including you Ross. So people vote ANOMALOUSLY, voted for President Obama again because their pride wouldn't let them admit that they made a mistake? People who are looking after their family as well as their own futures let the fact that they made a mistake stop them from making another mistake? Did I get that right?

You may want to shallow your own pride and look at reality. People voted for the candidate they believed best fit to run this country. Just because you made self admitted mistakes projecting how things would turn out, doesn't mean you try to find some twisted way of justifying in inaccurate perception of the direction of this country. America has spoke loud and clear, the Republican party and their views do not represented the views of this nation. With the youth and minority participation and ENTHUSIASM in voting, your party currently doesn't represent the future generation of this country either. One of the many reasons I sleep so well at night.

Trinacria| 11.16.12 @ 10:14AM

You're right about one thing: people voted for the candidate they BELIEVED was best fit to run the country. Regrettably, their beliefs where informed by nothing more that a series of vacuous platitudes, compounded by a stunning lack of depth and a failure to consult the historical evidence (which offers not a single hint to suggest that the candidate they selected is fit to run the country). In short, they made a profoundly unserious choice and, as a result, we have a profoundly serious problem.

E B | 11.15.12 @ 2:43PM

You are right about this stuff. There is even more, however. Without the complicit media, fawning over Obama and hiding his every flaw, and that same media impugning Romney for every success, and that same media successfully stereotyping Romney, the Tea Party and GOP. Fair and balanced coverage disappeared a long time ago, but the media pulled further left than any other time in my memory. Even many on the right believed the media about Romney. I searched for and read dozens of personal accounts of him and they all agreed he is kind, helpful, honest, hardworking, humble, thrifty and funny. That's the man we saw at the debates. The media pegged him wrong and got away with it. Shame on them, but even more shame on us for believing them too - who should know better!
www.conservativemormonmom.blogspot.com

MarshallH| 11.15.12 @ 2:43PM

*swallow

HB| 11.15.12 @ 2:45PM

Romney. The ominous specter in the name is indicative of the partial reasoning behind a defined group of consumers/voters. It is probably oblivious to those, whose receptor's in the palms of their hands over the balls of their opposing thumbs, has obscured the thought processes and replaced it with cognizance. As defined in the Mad-stirs definitions of fathomable fate: "Romney-- Read Only Memo-reich Knee". Am I getting something, or should I get a leg up? Are the moto controlled consumer 'hem-an droid' and 'planters wart' connected humans really as the lower mammals of the field who consume blackberries and Marion Barry's? Is motorized instinct a new non-rational phenomenon, unarguable from a main frame politic? Is Femerica the new word that will clang off the Liberty Bell, which now blasphemes its 'crack' and no longer resonates? How much longer will the new woman and her co-conspirators in the minority electorate of this brave and belligerent new country go around head butting what men used to be with her spiked brow?

Seek| 11.15.12 @ 3:47PM

I'll summarize the explanation for Romney's defeat in one word: blacks. Anytime you have 98 percent (or more) of an electoral bloc that comprises one-eighth of the country, and this bloc votes against you on account of your race, your chances of losing are pretty high. We've been "reaching out" to blacks ever since Nixon. Isn't more than 40 years of total disappointment enough of a hint?

Time to move on. Time for the GOP to do the unthinkable: Reach out to the white vote. We'll find out what it's like to win again.

Ralph Novy| 11.17.12 @ 11:57PM

I'll summarize what your post is in one word: racist.

Here's another word: Shame!

RJ| 11.15.12 @ 4:05PM

Too many people are dependent on government for them to vote for personal freedom. Also, GOP candidates have to fight against the negative impression of them generated by the news & entertainment media as well as by the public education system. It is a heavy headwind to overcome. The culture needs to change before government can change.

RCV| 11.15.12 @ 4:23PM

By the way, since there's nowhere else to post it, let me say it here: Gaza should just be levelled. If Hamas thinks it can rain missles down on Israel with impunity, it's high time they learned otherwise.

Jack?

Jack London| 11.15.12 @ 4:39PM

This Jack says you don't murder thousands of children and other innocents in collateral damage. The Israelis have already tried this in Gaza and many kids died. Today, the baby son of a BBC employee was killed in Gaza.

RCV| 11.15.12 @ 7:16PM

Hamas launched 350 rockets into Israel today, 220 of which struck. Hamas needs to be rooted out of Gaza or they will continue to rain down on Tel Aviv. I truly feel for that dead child, but I place the blame for that death squarely on the shoulders of Hamas.

Ralph Novy| 11.18.12 @ 12:02AM

And why did they do that, RCV?

You need to face up to those reasons more squarely, methinks.

Have a look at what Chomsky has to say about this stuff:

http://www.salem-news.com/arti.....y-gaza.php

http://www.haaretz.com/news/mi.....m-1.470901

Cheers.

AKraver| 11.15.12 @ 4:33PM

Dude, you are yet one more out-of-touch Republican. Romney lost because he was a moderate flip-floppin' fool. He's a decent human being but he ain't a conservative. If the Republican inner circle had given the Americans a conservative Obama would be packing up his things.

But that's the point--The republicans have negated the reason for existence by becoming soft-progressives and fighting for the middle ground. You included. There is nothing wrong with traditional Republican ideology--what's wrong is all the republicans afraid to try traditional republican ideology. We need a new party, or at least an inquisition to kick out the phonies.

Trinacria| 11.15.12 @ 4:50PM

It's really not that complicated, Ross. Mr. Obama was re-elected for one very simple reason: a majority of Americans have become willing to trade their liberty (and, by definition, their responsibility) for security. As Ben Franklin observed, they deserve neither (and, ultimately, neither shall they get).

In the meantime, why the wailing an gnashing of teeth? Yes, it's going to be an unmitigated disaster, but fear not; those of us in the 1-2% are there for a reason - we're smarter, more skilled, more driven, and more self-reliant than the effete panty waste sissies who have forfeited their liberty. We'll survive; ultimately, they will not.

Irony. Ain't it beautiful?

PolishKnight| 11.15.12 @ 5:10PM

Trinacria, in this case, there was no security in voting for Obama with a bad economy and a hurricane response that still left them wet and cold.

40% of the population voted for Obama for VIP race and gender preferences. They don't care about the socialist agenda or even religion. The remaining 10% swing voters were tricked with promises of green energy, scares about global warming, or wanting to be "cool".

That's it. This election teaches us that issues DON'T MATTER! Get it? It's radical, but amazingly true.

ISSUES DON'T MATTER! Demographics, and protecting your electorate, do. If the wealthy republicans get hit with a tax increase, it's because they didn't take care of the peasants guarding the gate. This is what took down the Romanovs.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:15PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

Trinacria| 11.15.12 @ 6:29PM

And yet, the point remains. Those who cast their lot with the Kenyan prince are precisely the ones who will suffer the most as a result of his utter incompetence. The rest of us are bright enough and resourceful enough to get through it and continue to prosper.

Oh well, let them eat Obama Cake....

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 5:34PM

ISSUES DO MATTER! PolishKnight, as hard as that might be for you to face.

So-called "minorities" actually do think and vote for policies that work for them.

Absolutely nothing "radical" about it. It's been the case, throughout history, when populace's had any say.

Duh.

Butch| 11.15.12 @ 5:10PM

Well, I am all the way down to the bottom of the thread and no one has mentioned Ross' theory of white guilt and white's inability to admit a mistake because Obama is a "historic" first black president. This may be true, but I cannot identify nor understand.

Very few blacks alive experienced separate restrooms and drinking fountains, and very few whites alive were responsible for that arrangement. Instead, the experience of the vast majority of both groups has been legal (and social) privileges unprecedented in the history of democracies: affirmative action in all things, housing rights, first claim on government jobs (Why do you think the DMV is so inefficient? Why do you think all state capitals vote liberal? Why are lives ruined over the honest expression of racial differences?). That has been most of whites' and blacks' lifelong experience. Thomas Sowell has pointed out that almost all of extant humanity is descended from slaves. It has been the norm for 90 percent of human history.

Why couldn't a person admit a mistake--especially to himself, in privacy--because the mistake was black? Can that possibly be true in large numbers? I'm just asking.

TLP| 11.15.12 @ 5:15PM

Contest, tomorrow.

Go to Monday's Story on "Europe's Jerry Sandusky".

You're gonna need to hit the "Previously" Button.

7-08| 11.15.12 @ 5:16PM

YOU lost because you are hypocrites. You cite loss of freedom with the same vehemence (in virtually the same breath) that you castigate women in for managing their reproductive physiology. You champion your Judean Christian heritage yet your charity is not the “freedom of” – it is the intolerant doctrine of adherence enforced by judicial activists that have caused many to seek the secular “freedom from” that plays well into the hands of the progressives. You practice infidelity at the rate of 50% yet you presume to choose the lifestyle and life partners of honest citizens who have no issue or offer no interference with your own social or cultural incompetence.
In short the basic tenet of any religion and included in all i. e. “Do unto others as you wish done unto yourself” is being politically enforced. Do not look at defective candidates, do not look at the hostile media, and certainly do not look under the bed for some boogie man, look in the mirror fools. Staring back at you is the reason for OUR demise, a delusional, insufferable, incapable clown with a great big multicolor “L” on your forehead.
The tragedy here is not your complete humiliation - the demise of freedom, and the inevitable “dark ages” that will follow as a result of your squabbling and incompetence will be monumental and will be here in a timeframe of days - no one alive today will see the recovery.

Archie| 11.15.12 @ 5:40PM

We're "hypocrites" and suffer our "complete humiliation." Yet, you seem in your last paragraph to have joined us in misery as we enter our dark ages. No one alive today will see the recovery you say. What the hell do you care, and what recovery! Didn't you get what you wanted?! Your post makes no sense. Oh wait. Maybe you're one of those "purists" who is too good to get off the couch and vote unless your "pure" candidate is on the ballot.

And TAS, your commenting/posting system is the worst one I've ever used. Maybe you could make the post box smaller.

Butch| 11.15.12 @ 5:43PM

Well, interesting application of the golden rule. I would not stick government guns in your back and force you to buy the Blue Bell ice cream, beer, crack, and phaaaawns of the slothful, because I do not wish the same for myself. How is that sinful, but someone else doing it to me is virtuous?

Butch| 11.15.12 @ 5:43PM

Above is in reply to 7-08.

Trinacria| 11.15.12 @ 6:23PM

7-08:
Point 1: I presume you were referring to the Judeo-Christian heritage (but that's the good thing about liberalism; you don't have to actually know a goddamn thing about the subject upon which you've chosen to pontificate).
Point 2: With respect to tolerance, I refer you to the venerable G.K. Chesterton, who astutely observed that tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
Point 3: I care not what any woman chooses to do with her body; a grown woman has the freedom to chose what to do and with whom she does it. She does not, however have the right to insist that I pay for it.
Point 4: May I encourage you to print out your post, save it for a week, then read it out loud? If you are not utterly mortified by what a foolish ass you've just made of yourself...congratulations; you're officially a moron.

Little Minnie| 11.15.12 @ 7:31PM

Does anyone know what they want for Christmas?

RJ| 11.15.12 @ 9:43PM

I think many of our wish lists were wiped-out on November 6.

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 7:28PM

So glad, RJ.

Perhaps a few thousand people might still be alive because your wishes weren't fulfilled.

I'll just bet you think you're a Christian, don't you?

Basset Hound| 11.15.12 @ 10:22PM

As a woman, one thing that bothers me to no end is the fact that conservatives seem so prejudiced against appealing to our emotions, and to the relational aspects of our lives. When I was single, I consumed fashion magazines that gave me, along with fashion tips, relationship advice and pasta recipes a good dose of liberal propaganda. Conservative women might have gotten a token "letter to the editor" printed or a cursory article where they were treated as quaint oddities of nature.

EVERY conservative publication across the board is nothing but persuasion and politics. What's wrong with wanting to read insights on how conservative principles are implemented in our day to day lives along with make up tips or advice on dealing with a difficult boss.

Unless we engage the popular culture on THEIR level, we're hosed.

Trinacria| 11.16.12 @ 10:03AM

Madam,
The problem with confronting popular culture on their level is that most of us simply cannot stoop that low.

Carl Peter Klapper | 11.16.12 @ 4:02PM

As someone who IS descended from Mayflower passengers, let me appraise you of the fact that we recognize that those passengers were illegal immigrants. That is why there was a Mayflower Compact! If John Howland, Richard Warren and company stepped onto shore without a separate legal basis -- as the Compact provided -- they would have literally been "outlaws" and anarchy would have ensued. For that reason, Mayflower descendents favor free and open immigration.

It is to the next wave of immigrants that you should look for intolerance towards further immigration, though even there you will find people with a knowledge of history and an understanding of what alone makes us "Americans": a willingness to live together in this land under a common law.

runnindeer| 11.17.12 @ 1:38AM

People related to Obama because they see him as likable. People didn't like Romney. It is just that simple. The GOP has failed once again to use social media as they could and should have done. Again they ran a man who has run and lost in the past. He is old news to the young voter and to most of the middle aged. The older voter voted for him because he is a nice man and he was not Obama. Romney did not seem like he was up on anything that the average people find interesting. He had no input about current books, movies, social issues- etc. The media could not give him what he didn't have. Personality beyond being an old time politician with values that most people do not understand or care about now. I hate to say it like that but it is just how it is. Obama made people feel like he cared even if they knew better. Romney made them feel as if they were less worthy than he is. As if he knows more and is just better than the folks. I do not think he means to come across that way but he is so out of touch with media and how to sell himself that he was shown that way and never tried to defend himself. He won the debates but the folks didn't care. They wanted to see a fight. They want entertainment. Romney believes that voters think. Some do. Most are just sitting at the television and hoping to get entertained.

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 5:29PM

Exactly wrong, Runnindeer.

You said "People didn't like Romney. It is just that simple."

People not only didn't like Romney, the person; they ALSO didn't like Romney, the future perpetrator of unjust, unfair policies.

But your point was basically on the mark. A hell of a lot of people didn't like Romney, the person, because he showed himself to be a selfish, greedy liar -- over and over and over again.

People don't like liars.

Duh.

I'm just still shocked racism and other factors narrowed the gap to 2-3%. Given what Romney said, did and represents, the gap SHOULD have been about 20%.

Neatsfoot| 11.17.12 @ 1:34PM

So obama got the sympathy vote? Ha! There is nothing more ephemeral than the feelings of the electorate. Had umemployment continued to climb, had the stock ;market fallen to 5000 (DIJA) obama would have been toast

gazinya | 11.18.12 @ 2:10PM

So what we need, says Mr. Kaminsky, is to reach 'just a little' more into the world of moral reletivism. Not 'ALL THE WAY' but 'just a little more.' Just a 'taste' of a little more of the secular humanism and a tad 'more tolerant' view of what 'some Christian moralists' would call 'debauchery and deviency, coupled with 'just a sprinkle' of lies and deceit.

It is not that this nation hasn't already 'tasted' the fruit of knowledge concerning the value of 'multicultural diversity' or 'deviational sexual mores' but the 'truth' that we haven't really 'bitten' into the whole apple needs to be explored. Oh, yea. That is the ticket. Look how much more comfortable that wide, broad road the Dems travel on and how restricted and narrow our 'road to salvation' is constructed. The 'Broad Road is paved with human desires and the 'narrow road' is paved in Christs' blood.

skeptic| 11.19.12 @ 5:27AM

The GOP is characterized as it is. After a lifetime as a member, I am ashamed of what it has become, and I am abandoning it.

Gays? I know three good families with a gay child. Illegals? They are here; deal with them.

Quit fielding candidates who are crazy, or stupid, or narrow/intolerant. Quit wasting primaries on self-promoting, unqualified nuts like Herman Cain or Ron Paul. Santorum? Gimme a break. Newt Gingrich? Nah.

Quit toadying to "spokesman" like Trump, the Mouth of the North. Or O'Reilly, Hannity, or Coulter. Forget Limbaugh.

Quit offering nostrums like "repealing" Roe v Wade, the federal income tax, the abolition of the Federal reserve, the Gold Standard, Constitutional amendments for this or that, "self-deportation" of illegals. Quit alignments with the Tea Party and the Religious Right.

Oh, wait...if the GOP does that, it wil have about 20% of its current membership.

Try to find a Presidential candidate who does not believe that 47%--or is it 52%--of the voters are"moochers".

Above all, try to find a Svengali other than Karl Rove.

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 5:24PM

Agree with all you said, Skeptic, EXCEPT that I think the current GOPers need a Cicero instead of a Svengali.

Ralph Novy| 11.20.12 @ 5:21PM

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