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The Nation's Pulse
The Rape World
All it takes is a toothbrush to expose the vileness of reality TV.
What happens when people stop being polite and start getting really invasive with a toothbrush?
The answer, for MTV reality starlet Tonya Cooley, was to get a lawyer. Cooley and MTV’s parent company Viacom just settled a lawsuit in which the plaintiff alleged that two male cast members of Real World-Road Rules Challenge: The Ruins had violated her with a toothbrush after she had passed out.
Cooley’s suit claimed that producers encouraged bad conduct by providing unlimited free alcohol and rewarding misbehavior with airtime. Viacom responded that the “Plaintiff failed to avoid the injuries of which she complains. For example, while she was a contestant on The Ruins, Plaintiff was frequently intoxicated (to an extent far greater than other contestants), rowdy, combative, flirtatious and on multiple occasions intentionally exposed her bare breasts and genitalia to other contestants.”
Is that Attornese for “she had it coming”? The brief against Cooley could read as an MTV casting call’s list of attributes female reality-television aspirants should embody. It is as much a description of Snooki as it is of Cooley.
Cooley can’t say she wasn’t warned. A Real World contract obtained last year by the Village Voice ironically stipulated that cast members must conform to “generally accepted social practices.” The agreement continued, “I understand that there are risks in any such interaction,” which include “consensual and nonconsensual physical contact,” as well as gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, and other ailments seemingly more contagious to people who can’t spell them.
This isn’t the first time The Real World has morphed into The Rape World.
In 2003, a disoriented guest at San Diego’s Real World house awoke on a strange couch with cameras staring at her. A police report noted that cast member Jamie Chung described how an “unidentified person in the residence told her that they had seen the victim lying naked on the bathroom floor. The same unidentified person told her that they had seen [the alleged assailant] leaving the bathroom and saying… ‘I just hit that.’” A medical examination revealed numerous internal abrasions consistent with a sexual assault. Bunim-Murray Productions neither called the police nor cooperated with them, requiring investigators to obtain a search warrant. Ultimately, the district attorney didn’t file charges — and the show’s producers edited out any reference to the assault, the investigation, and the stonewalling.
What viewers saw didn’t resemble the experience of the program’s “seven strangers.” What editors left on the cutting-room floor did.
Pregnancy, like rape, is too much of a downer for The Real World. “I am not currently pregnant,” the cast contract reads, “and I agree that I shall not become pregnant prior to completion of my participation in the taping.” The document further stipulates, “In the event I do become pregnant during the Program, Producer shall have the right, in its sole and absolute discretion, to terminate me from further participation in the Program.” In other words, terminate your kid or we’ll terminate you.
That’s just what one cast member did in season two. And immediately after the last episode of season three, housemate Pedro Zamora died from a sexually transmitted disease contracted as a minor. But that Real World of repercussions was back when the show wasn’t a vehicle for voyeurs to live vicariously through the indiscriminate hook-ups of the beautiful people.
Producers initially cast the occasional fatso or ugly duckling — those people we see in the real world but not on it. What made the first few seasons interesting is that participants, unlike Ms. Cooley and her alleged assailants, generally held ambitions independent from a career on reality television. The early alumni include a DC Comics cartoonist, a Wisconsin congressman, and a Los Angeles County cop.
There’s plenty of room on television for sex. There isn’t much room for consequences.
If only the real world were more like The Real World, intimate encounters would never end in social disease, unwanted pregnancy, and creepy guys misusing a toothbrush.
About the Author
Daniel J. Flynn, the author of The War on Football: Saving America’s Game, blogs at www.flynnfiles.com.
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Appleby| 11.2.12 @ 6:36AM
I've never heard of this show. I'm glad I will never hear about it again.
chuck| 11.2.12 @ 8:53AM
Just can't help thinking of a former President, and a cigar.
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 9:47AM
please be specific, "W" enjoyed cigars.
Frank
Bob Grant| 11.2.12 @ 1:27PM
Come on chuck:
As Whoopie would say: "it wasn't really Rape Rape"
Stan Redmond| 11.3.12 @ 2:42PM
And not really rape-rape just meant sodomy with a drunk 13 year old. This is just a toothbrush violation of a drunk 20 something and therfore harmless.
Occam's Tool| 11.2.12 @ 1:46PM
I like to watch MST3K episodes at night to unwind, Appleby. I'm on call half the time, and the other half it is possible I might be called as an ultimate back up, so I never drink to relax.
MST3K is occasionally double entendre-ish, but they design the jokes to go over kids' heads.
When my wife and I don't do that at night, we listen to audiobooks versions of PG Wodehouse's Jeeves and Wooster. By the way, I would HIGHLY advise that you check them out of your local library. The readers are superb.
I'm 50, a grownup, with a 9 year old and an 8 year old. My job has me dealing with some truly desperate predicaments. This garbage amuses me not.
C. Vernon Crisler | 11.2.12 @ 8:49PM
Personally, I prefer the Turtleman, Whoo Hoo, Live Action.....
Darin| 11.2.12 @ 6:41AM
I don't buy into the "she had it coming" bunk. Nobody deserves this type of treatment. However, when you associate with slime, some of the slim is going to stick to you. And when you point the finger at someone, there are three fingers pointing back at you.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 11.2.12 @ 7:21AM
I suppose that they wouldn't make shows like "The Real World" if someone didn't watch them (though I never have). That there is an audience for what is described should frighten us more than any behaviors that these shows exploit.
Alan| 11.2.12 @ 8:23AM
Gee, a show where the participants get drunk on a nightly basis, fornicate, and generally participate in the new state religion of hedonism and gets an audience should be no surprise. TV garbage like this has contributed in no small way to the sea of moral rot and decay we now float around in. All of it will have and is having consequences.
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TinaB| 11.2.12 @ 8:04AM
I have three syllables, Honey-Boo-Boo. This pitiful decline is far from over. Those futuristic movies from the late 60s and early 70s were mild, sexually, compared to what goes for reality entertainment. Violence as fun sport could be next.
chuck| 11.2.12 @ 8:58AM
I kept hearing about Honey Boo Boo, so while channeling surfing one night I saw it was on.
15 seconds of that was all I needed. I think my IQ dropped 15 points before I changed the channel.
Scary thing is, there are people who actually watch this sh*t!
KennesawJack| 11.2.12 @ 10:06AM
Been married to my wife for 41 years. Thought I knew her. A few nights ago I asked her who this Honey-B00-Boo person was and, honest to God, SHE KNEW!
Nina in MA| 11.2.12 @ 10:58AM
She's a rude child being abused and exploited by ignorant white trash!
Shadow| 11.2.12 @ 11:39AM
I know too but have never watched. The ad spots during commercials are enough.
I actually watched "Jersey Shore" and "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" twice each. The first time to see what they were and the second time because I couldn't believe they existed.
Don't judge you wife unless she said she enjoys those things.
Occam's Tool| 11.2.12 @ 1:48PM
KJ: I know a lot of this stuff as well. I have to be aware of the cultural sea of crap my patients swim in.
Get her the PG Wodehouse books on tapes. Life is too short.
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 9:06AM
Tina B(Babe?)
have you actually watched "Here comes Honey Boo Boo"?
Which is like asking a Dude "Are you still a Homo" cause if you have watched it, your one of those Idiots who watch Honey Boo Boo, and if you haven't you're one of those Idiots who criticizes something they haven't seen.
OK, I admit, I haven't seen Gay Sex(not live anyway) but I don't go around saying how much it "Sucks" even though I'm pretty sure it does.
Anyway, I'm one of those Idiots who HAS watched Honey Boo Boo, and its actually got the Marxist Stream Media's panties bunched up,
Cause Honey Boo Boo's Dad actually works, and they're not on welfare, and they have a Huge American Built Pick-em-up, and Confederate Flag pillows,
you know, like 99% of my relations.
Oh, and the worse part, is Honey-Boo-Boo does a Dead-On "Sassy Black Woman" impression, carrying on the long comic tradition of.........
OK, Flip Wilson's "Geraldine" might not be PC, but it WAS funny,
so lighten up Tina B, sip a little SF kick off your heels(6 inch stilletoes I hope)and enjoy a little TLC with an SO
Frank
Dave Williams| 11.2.12 @ 12:52PM
...um, that's FOUR syllables, actually....
Occam's Tool| 11.2.12 @ 1:49PM
TinaB: Watch out for Roller Ball Murder, coming soon.
Nancy in NC| 11.2.12 @ 8:04AM
How disgusting. I have never heard of this show, and am glad for that.
There is no shame in this country. Some people will do almost anything to be in the limelight for 15 minutes. And these are someone's children. I'm sure their parents are so proud.
Alan| 11.2.12 @ 8:26AM
Whoring for attention is the new sport in America. Honor, integrity, shame and dignity are commodities to be sold.
Bob Grant| 11.2.12 @ 8:45AM
I'm shocked, SHOCKED that MTV still exists!!!
I could have sworn it met it's demise after the Backstreet Boys, Vanilla Ice era, circa '90, '91.
Wow, I guess I didn't miss much after all these years.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 11.2.12 @ 9:04AM
In 1981,as most of us likely recall, when it started, MTV stood for Music Television, and featured popular music in a video format. Even at its worst, an offending music video was only a few minutes long, followed by an appearance from Martha Quinn, Mark Goodman, JJ Jackson, Nina Blackwood or Alan Hunter to introduce the next clip.
When it is spoken of today, it is apparently all reality programs.
I might find myself tempted to tune in every once in a while if I thought I might see the doe-eyed Joanne Cathrow from Human League staring at the camera and lip synching "Don't You Want Me Baby".
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 9:10AM
you ever watched one of those 80's videos?
Cause they haven't held up well with time, like Diane Feinstein.
Well except maybe for Pat Benetar's "All Fired Up" or "We Belong" or "Stop Using Sex as a Weapon" or anything by Sheena Easton, the GoGos, Quarterflash, Bangles,
OK, Chicagos "Along comes a Woman" DOES suck , what with its shitty "Casablanca" set...
Frank "I want my C-MTV" Drackman
Harry the Horrible| 11.2.12 @ 9:51AM
I'm with ya on that! Esp. the Pat Benetar videos!
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 11:02AM
"Love is more than a one way erection, Stop(Stop!) using sex as a weapon....
JP| 11.2.12 @ 9:18AM
Sorry Albert, but I just can't watch those videos anymore. It's like seeing old photos from the 70s (orange counter tops, shag carpeting, huge collars, the Ford Pinto, and Disco).
I stopped watching MTV about the time Grunge came of age.
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 11:05AM
Why's everybody hatin on Ford Pintos?
OK, they caught on fire, gasoline vehicles do have a few drawbacks..
but they were rear-wheel-drive-peppy-2000lb-44hp/liter(more per cubic inch than your average 70's Vette, and without the moonroof)
Shi*, if they were made in Germany and not as reliable hipsters would pay 40 large for the privelege of paying $800 for a "Genuine BMW" water pump...
Frank
Bob Grant| 11.2.12 @ 9:30AM
Al,
You would also be considered lucky if you tuned in and caught Nena purr the words to 99 Luftballoons, or perhaps Patty Smyth singing Goodbye to You, or even a Bangles tune.
-Bob "thought Martha Quinn was the cutest of the female VJ's" Grant
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 9:35AM
Nena? remember her at that MTV's rockin New Years Eve? must have been 84/85, and she was rockin out, and batted away one of the "Luft Baloons" just enough to see
ARMPIT HAIR,
which I kinda like actually(On FEMALES)
but that song was pretty stupid, I mean, I speak fluent Deutsch, and I can't still make Kopfe or Schwanze out of
"Fuhlten Sich Gleich Angemacht"?!?!?!?!?!?!?
any Krauts out there?
Hilf einen Arschloch auf.
Frank "I see Noth-ink" Drackman
Albert Constantine Jr.| 11.2.12 @ 9:50AM
Ich denke vielleicht "feeling the power of the moment".
Bob Grant| 11.2.12 @ 10:07AM
Al, Frank:
It's all well and good that both of you are fluent in German and Latin but will get you no where in ObamaNation.
Clear your heads of that insipid Latin German and embrace the language of the future.
An yew best be noin' wat i be talkin' 'bout!!!
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 12:36PM
Watchoo be talkin' bout Willis?
I can E-bonics like a Mo-Fo, Nome Sane?
Frank "Willie" Drackman
Al Adab| 11.2.12 @ 3:26PM
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 9:51AM
Just a pre-emptive "Yes, I know it's sad I remember this" and for you language Nazis,
I can't make my typewriter do those little Blue Oyster Cult dots..
"Neun und Neunzig Dusenflieger,
Jeder war ein Grosser Krieger
Halten Sich fur Kapitan Kirk
Es gab ein grosses Fuerwerk,
Die Nachbarn hatten nicht gedacht,
und fuhlten sich gleich angemacht,
wer hatte das gedacht,
von neun und Neunzig Luft balloons"
Frank
JP| 11.2.12 @ 3:23PM
Fulten Sich Gleich Angemacht- auf English (They felt themselves provoked (or something like that. Don't know the context)).
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 10:06AM
Was she the doe eyed blonde or the doe eyed Brunette?, either one of which could have beaten up those ectomorphic homos pretending to play keyboards/drums
Frank "Bangin on the Bongos Like a Chim-pansy" Drackman
Bob Grant| 11.2.12 @ 10:24AM
Let's put it this way.
Sure, I love me some Go Gos, Berlin, Scandal, Bangles....heck, I'd even do the rotund lead singer for Romeo Void under the right circumstances...but I had major issues with the production of those 80's vids.
The biggest one for me was having male band members "pout" in front of the camera. Why the need to have your "keyboard player" or "bass guitarist" or "drummer" pout when your attractive female lead singer can cover this?
One of the great mysteries of the '80's vid era.
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 11:10AM
well THATS your problem
watching Homos pouting, you Homo.
but I've got a confession to make,
I'm screwing your wife. Just Kidding, but now that I've got your attention.
When I first heard EMF's "Unbelievable"(in a seedy Bahraini Bar, go figure) I couldn't wait to get back to the USofA to see the hot chick that I pictured to be singing.
I know, its a dude.
I think it's like those "Witch or Young Woman" Oracle Illusions, I always see the Elephant..
Frank
Bob Grant| 11.2.12 @ 11:47AM
Quite a confession there Frank.
Alot of projection going on. This is not my field of expertise but I'm sure after a week of Dr. Phil you could nail down what ails you.
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 12:40PM
Dr. Who?(reason enough to shi*can PBS)
OK, I know who Dr. Phil is, but I really never have watched him, it's that Stew-Pid Manhandle Drawel, "Sew Hi-ow Duz Thay-ut May-uk Yew Foil Dock-ter Dray-uck-Mayan"
and he's not a real Doctor anyway, like Dre, J, or Oct
Frank
Occam's Tool| 11.2.12 @ 1:52PM
Dr. Phil lost his real license for inappropriate behavior.
I get tired of this.
Hardcard| 11.2.12 @ 8:47AM
It's all evil run rampant and unchecked.Tattooed,stoned,pierced,intoxicated, violent, XXX, dumb, dirty, dishonest, shameless and Godless.
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 8:55AM
Gee, Mr. Flynn,
My TV(a 70 inch Pioneer Japanese-Market-Only Model that only true A-V Afficianaro's like Moi' can appreciate) comes with this thing called a "Remote"
that allows you to actually chose which chanel to watch, and I NEVER watch MTV,
umm except if I stumble onto one of those old "Remote Control" episodes, or OK, "Teen Mom" and (one of the rare examples of a sequel being better than the original) "Teen Mom 2" or Beavis & Butthead, OK, maybe one of those "Real Life" episodes if it's something I can identify with, you know, "I have an 18 inch Penis"....
Frank "I want my Honey Boo Boo" Drackman
francisdesales| 11.2.12 @ 9:01AM
Anyone remember the movie "Idiocracy"?
We are almost there...
Drunken Sailor| 11.2.12 @ 12:53PM
Almost?
Occam's Tool| 11.2.12 @ 1:57PM
Read the real thing: "The Marching Morons," by CM Kornbluth. Followup with "Not This August."
Cyril Kornbluth was an eccentric genius who died of complications (malignant hypertension)in 1957 at age 35, apparently initially brought on by his war service as a machinegunner during the Battle of the Bulge.
His short story "The Little Black Bag" (made into a great Twilight Zone episode with Burgess Meredith) and his Novella "The Marching Morons," depict an Obamaesque future in which the average IQ is in the 50s because cretins bred and smart folks didn't. Much better than the movie Idiocracy, which wasn't terrible.
JP| 11.2.12 @ 9:14AM
It should be apparent that our Pop Culture has reverted to the kind atavism that pre-dated Christianity. The Goths, Lombards, Huns, and Visgoths could perfectly understand MTV's druken violence, rape, and general buggery. This is what awaits all cultures that go Beyond Good and Evil.
Perhaps the world will eventually be divided between Pagans and Muslims. As for what happens to Christians, that is anyone's guess. But, it cannot be good.
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 9:55AM
as someone who actually enjoyed History, (albeit at the 2010 BCS NATIONAL CHAMPION AUBURN UNIVERSITY, OK WE SUCK THIS YEAR AND HISTORY ISN'T ONE OF OUR STRONG POINTS)
the Goths, Lombards, Huns, Visigoths were the ancestors of todays Germans and Italians, and appreciated the value of Science, Technology, the Arts, Wine/Grog, and being able to chop some sissy Greek's head off with a single swing...
Frank
Occam's Tool| 11.2.12 @ 2:00PM
Auburn. Ahhhh, explains much. :-)
Much better than Columbia U, as is the Capstone.
Doc (I taught psychiatry as an instructor at U of A School of Medicine, Huntsville Campus) Ock.
(My wife is a Bama grad, my father in law is an Auburn fan, several members of my wife's family did play for the Crimson Tide)
Oldefarte| 11.3.12 @ 1:22PM
ROOOLLLLLL TIDE!!!!!!!!.....oh and did you hear about Gene Chizek being replaced by a Chinese head coach? His name is.....NEED MOR WINNS!!!!!!!!!!!
Occam's Tool| 11.3.12 @ 2:29PM
Ow.
Thanks, Oldefarte
JP| 11.2.12 @ 3:25PM
Correct. But, you wouldn't want to have been alive before they were civilized. Especially if you are a woman.
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 4:35PM
Well, quite a stereotypical view of what a woman wants...
Maybe I'd be one of those adventerous rebellious women, Lady Godiva, Joan of Ark, Amanda Bynes...
Frank
Drunken Sailor| 11.2.12 @ 4:41PM
Annete Funicello
Oldefarte| 11.3.12 @ 1:25PM
Huh? Is there something I missed with Bobby and the Mousekateer Club??????????
Pecos Pete| 11.2.12 @ 9:21AM
I haven't watched TV since about 1990. So, excuse me, but is this "show" about the Obama Administration? Or maybe about Bill Clinton?
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 10:00AM
since 1990? I didn't know they locked Sex Offenders(Blondie 1981) up that long...
OK, not fair, your not a Sex Offender(" saw you standing on the Corner..." and even if you were/are I'm pretty sure they have TV in the joint...
So I guess you don't have a TV set? I mean one that works, cause those Rabbit Ears are about as useful as actual Rabbit Ears nows a days..
Seriously, everytime I hear someone claim to "Not watch TV" I say "Me too, except for the Lottery Drawings"(they really suck on radio)
Frank
Who Knows?| 11.2.12 @ 9:31AM
Real World--is that a TV show?
Bread and circuses forever!
Al Adab| 11.2.12 @ 9:35AM
...and we don't even have to visit the coloseum to watch, they put it right in our homes. Hail Ceasar.
gene| 11.2.12 @ 9:48AM
Can anyone remember when "Network" was a Black Satire and not today's Reality?
Nina in MA| 11.2.12 @ 11:13AM
While I agree with Frank, change the channel, it is watched by a lot of young people who get the idea that this behavior is okay. So when a woman is raped, she has a long road ahead of her to get justice when shows promote it and then cover it up with excuses that she was a willing participant because she made poor choices with drinking, dressing, lewd behavior...um wait a minute...aren't we always told that these behaviors DON"T or SHOULDN'T result in a rape? Just because she's acting like a wild and crazy teen or twenty something, does that make it okay to do anything they want? These "kids" probably think they're going to be successful like the Jersey Shore gang by being on these shows, but I highly doubt that. Except when news like this breaks out...and the tv show will deny and make excuses that SHE was the one who asked for it! I used to watch MTV all the time, when I was younger...now, not so much. But hey, this is what they call progress you stuffy old folks out there!
Frank Drackman| 11.2.12 @ 5:07PM
liebe Nina,
bist du die Sangerin von "Neun und Neunzig Luft Baloons" ? Ich finde die einer die kuhnest Popstars der Achtziger. Wenn du ein grossartiges Schwanz sehen wollen, bitte rufen mich an.
Oder, melden mich an @ drackman62@hotmail.com
wiedersehn,
Herr Doktor Drackman
vtwin| 11.2.12 @ 11:31AM
Rape as entertainment on MTV for our young people, Marc Leder host of the fundraiser were Romney was secretly videoed trashing 47% of his follow Americans regularly holds sex parities, “Obama's justice department grants final immunity to Bush's CIA torturers” reads the headline in The Guardian, one administration orders human beings tortured to death followed by grants of immunity in the next administration.
http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesi.....iVmoXP5ohP
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comm.....a-torturer
Oldefarte| 11.3.12 @ 1:17PM
Chris Stevens etc would be alive today [and his relatives would have been extremely happy] if instead he had been dealt with by """""Bush's CIA torturers"""!!!!!!!!!!!
Oldefarte| 11.3.12 @ 1:19PM
PS: Waterboarding does not equal sodomizing and murder!!!!!!!
Rhoetus| 11.3.12 @ 11:23PM
William Jefferson Clinton is a rapist. He raped Juanita Broaddrick in 1978.
Oldefarte| 11.2.12 @ 12:51PM
It's ludicrous that since the invention of TV, its content has spiraled downward to this crapola, and that idiots waste their time watching this comic book garbage. TV as a vehicle of communication could be used to educate the masses by means of educational content, but noooo, the sleezball husksters of Hollywood make their $trillions off of putting forth this excrement and the idiots yuck it up watching same. Per Forrest Gump, STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES and boy is TV and its viewers STUPID!!!!!!!!!
Oldefarte| 11.2.12 @ 12:56PM
PS: Next no doubt, some friends of a president will take it upon themselves to produce live beheadings by groups of Muslim terrorists donning tablecloths on their heads and beards on their chins; complete with all of the bloody gore attached to same. It'll probably hit the top of the charts with the idiot public!!!!!!!!
Occam's Tool| 11.2.12 @ 2:01PM
Recall that the inventor of TV stated when asked on "What's My Line?" if the invention could be painful when used, "yes, occasionally."
cowgirl| 11.2.12 @ 12:52PM
To understand where and why this is happening, one must read Sex & God at Yale by Nathan Harden. Harden attended Yale University and wrote about SWAY at Yale - Sex Week at Yale. We are spending $60,000 a year at a supposedly Christian University - Yale was founded by Protestants - to educate our young people on things like the porn industry, sex toys, and of course abortion art. Once you read this enlightening book, you will fully understand Real World.
Gr0w1er601| 11.2.12 @ 1:03PM
Who watches this trash anyway? Obviously people who have nothing better to do with their own empty, self-obsorbed miserable lives. And to think these nitwits are breathing oxygen and taking up space...
Grzmlyk| 11.2.12 @ 2:02PM
I'll channel the liberals here:
"What's to complain about? This is AWESOME! The Real World and all the reality shows that worship indiscriminate, shallow sex with no consequences, abject expressions of narcissism that are rewarded with fame and more reality shows, selfishness to the exclusion of one scintilla of human compassion or caring about anyone else - THIS IS THE LIBERAL UTOPIA. We have arrived people! Woo hoo! I'm getting me some!"
Liberals don't give a damn about anything but whatever will scratch their own itches; they have pushed our culture so far to the left that shows like this don't even raise an eyebrow. Progress? These people ar VERMIN.
This country has become an open sewer. Thanks, "progress."
Seek| 11.2.12 @ 6:54PM
The idea that "liberalism" explains sexual drive among youth (or depictions of it) is simply preposterous. I've got news for you: You don't have to be political one way or another to satisfy hormones. "Real World" isn't about liberalism -- it's about a frat-house atmosphere. Most liberals I've known are rather priggish, actually.
Butch| 11.3.12 @ 1:41AM
Most liberals I know are liberals because they can't get any.
Rhoetus| 11.3.12 @ 11:56AM
Liberalism means never having to say you are sorry.
Oldefarte| 11.3.12 @ 1:13PM
I might add that LIBERALISM MEANS NEVER HAVING TO SAY YOU ARE.....INTELLIGENT!!!!
Rhoetus| 11.3.12 @ 11:27PM
It's not about intelligence it's about logic over emotions and honor over convenience. They prefer the later over the former.
Rhoetus| 11.3.12 @ 11:55AM
That the producers can continue to act with callous indifference and pay no personal consequences is the real scandal - the greater tragedy is that these events didn't force the end of the program due to all its sponsors pulling out.
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 11.3.12 @ 6:18PM
It's been vile since it began. It began as vile. Unfortunately vileness sells in the United States and that's why even Republican media pals like Rupert Murdoch are also chest deep in the vileness. In a capitalist country there are no values only profits.