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Benghazi Obama’s Core Deceit

Is anyone really going to vote for this?

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Obama’s Comprehensive Calculated Deception
This Benghazi dishonesty is worth recounting again not only because the whole episode is dishonorable, but because it reflects the fundamental communications strategy of the entire Obama Presidency — abusing the American people with Calculated Deception.

Obama finally just released his alleged second term agenda. As the Wall Street Journal editorialized regarding an interview he gave on it to the Des Moines Register on October 24: 

Specifically, Mr. Obama said he wants to pursue immigration reform in a second term, as well as a budget ‘grand bargain’ with Republicans that includes tax reform. This will come as a surprise to voters reading the President’s just released 20-page brochure on his second term agenda, which makes little or no mention of these priorities. Perhaps that’s why the White House first demanded that the interview be off the record, making the transcript public only after the Register editor objected in a public blog post.

After being recently spanked in a Univision interview for promising immigration reform in the 2008 campaign and then doing nothing on it even with filibuster proof Democrat congressional majorities, Obama wanted to communicate to his Hispanic base that he will pursue immigration reform in a second term, without putting it in black and white for the general public to see. But failing to lift a finger on it when he had the real chance, how can even his Hispanic base believe in him now?

In his slick second term agenda brochure, Obama tells us, “President Obama is pursuing an ‘all-of-the-above’ energy strategy that will produce reliable, affordable energy and take steps to protect our climate: Opening up millions of acres for exploration and development, including undiscovered oil and gas resources in the Gulf of Mexico and the Arctic.”

But that assertion comes in the face of the Obama Administration’s closing of half the National Petroleum Reserve in August. That National Petroleum Reserve is 23.5 million acres (the size of Indiana) on Alaska’s North Slope, established by President Harding in 1923 to ensure oil supplies for the U.S. Navy. Congress transferred the reserve from state to federal ownership in 1976, and “designated it as a strategic oil and natural gas stockpile to meet the ‘energy needs of the nation,’” as reported by Newsmax. But not under the Obama Administration, which has squelched production at the reserve during Obama’s entire term.

The agenda brochure tells us, “It’s time for a new economic patriotism, rooted in the belief that growing our economy begins with a strong, thriving middle class.” But President Obama has produced during his entire term just the opposite for the middle class, a precipitous decline in median family income, from $54,983 in January, 2009 to $50,964 by June, 2012. That is a loss of $4,019 per family, or 7.3%, the equivalent of losing nearly one month’s income every year. Don’t forget as well President Obama’s postwar record of 43 straight months with unemployment above 8%, the longest period of such unemployment since the Great Depression ended nearly 75 years ago. This is what President Obama has accomplished for the middle class so far.

The economy grew at only 2% in the third quarter, which continues Obama’s record of economy growth at only half the average recovery from a recession since World War II, and only one-third of Reagan’s booming recovery. That’s a loss for the American people of $1.2 trillion in income so far compared to what they would have with an average post-depression recovery. That doesn’t look like President Obama is “Building an Economy from the Middle Class Out,” as he promises in his second term agenda brochure. Just average post-recession growth since World War II would have cut our deficit in half by itself, without any legislated tax increases or benefit cuts. While Obama says of his second term agenda, “Ours is a fight to restore the values that built the largest middle class and the strongest economy the world has ever known,” the record shows he has lost that fight so far.

And the prospects are only worse without a change in course. As the Wall Street Journal editorialized in its weekend October 27-28 edition, “private investment tanked in the third quarter….the decline in business investment at this stage of a recovery signals a capital strike and a return to pessimism. Business investment is a leading indicator of future job and wage growth.”

But Obama’s answer is to keep doing what he has been, except to sharply increase taxes on investment in a second term. He promises in his second term agenda brochure to reduce the deficit “by finally asking millionaires and billionaires to pay their fair share.” Those millionaires and billionaires are defined as families earning over $250,000 a year. Moreover, the Congressional Budget Office reports that in 2009, the top 1% of income earners paid 39% of all federal income taxes, while earning only 13% of the income. That’s not their fair share, Mr. President? He is deliberately deceiving the public to stoke envy and resentment for votes. That too is dishonorable.

Obama says he is only asking billionaires to pay the same tax rates as their secretaries. But in 2009, in 2009 the top 1% already paid an average federal tax rate of 29%, while the middle 20% paid an average federal tax rate of only 11.1%, according to CBI. It is with a flat tax that millionaires and billionaires would pay the same tax rates as their secretaries, which is what Reagan and Steve Forbes wanted, but Obama has opposed.

These tax increases on “the rich” (a crass term that has no place in American politics) will only lose revenue, increasing rather than reducing deficits and debt. In the past 45 years, every time the capital gains tax rate has been increased, capital gains revenues have gone down rather than up. When President Bush slashed the tax rate on corporate dividends in 2003, dividend payments soared thereafter, and consequently so did the revenues from dividend taxation. Reversing that cut as Obama wants would have the opposite effect. If the tax rate increases going into effect next year for every major federal tax, except the already world leading corporate tax rate, cause a recession as I have now been joined by CBO in predicting, federal revenues overall will go down rather than up.

For those of you, or your friends and relatives, who are voting for Obama, is this pattern of dishonorable deception and dishonesty what you are supporting? If so, you will surely get what you deserve if a second Obama term ever comes to pass. Maybe more people you know need to know more about this.

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About the Author

Peter Ferrara is Director of Entitlement and Budget Policy at the Heartland Institute, General Counsel of the American Civil Rights Union, Senior Fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis, and Senior Policy Advisor on Entitlements and Budget Policy at the National Tax Limitation Foundation. He served in the White House Office of Policy Development under President Reagan, and as Associate Deputy Attorney General of the United States under President George H.W. Bush.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (74) |

Darin| 11.1.12 @ 7:08AM

A large number of Americans no little or nothing about this because the media has killed the story. If Obama were Republican, it would STILL be huge news. Anyone who still thinks the media is not biased needs to be slapped upside the head.

TLP| 11.1.12 @ 9:00AM

Exactly.

Go ask Pat Caddell. He'll tell ya, and I'll tell ya, too.

The 4th Estate, long ago became a 5th Column in this Country. They no longer serve their function of Whistleblower where All Politicians are concerned. They have become Part and Parcel of the Democrat Party. Their Lies of Omission have wreaked Havoc on the fabric of the Country. Lies have become the Truth, while the Truth has been locked away from prying eyes.

And when LISCENCE RENEWALS come do?

There needs to be a Rubber Stamp marked - DENIED - on the desk, right next to the container of Red Ink.

Oldefarte| 11.1.12 @ 1:18PM

More importantly, anyone/everyone so understanding this fact needs to immediately pick up their telephone, call the business office of their hometown newpaper and tell them to cancel their subscription to same; and additionally to not allow themsleves or their children to attend/view the Hollywood productions in their movie theatres and from their home televisions!!!!

SUBVET| 11.1.12 @ 12:38PM

How Stupid Do They Think We Are?

Peter what is the CIA's role in this ? I say they are the ones in control.

Mitt is their man now........move on to the next chapter in the global play book.

Do I hear a fiddle in the backround !

Oldefarte| 11.1.12 @ 1:19PM

Google/read Frank Gaffney's editorials concerning this!!!!!!!!!!

Dodd2| 11.1.12 @ 7:50AM

Obama's Negroes base do not care what he does.
It's all tribal to them. Fact.

Nancy in NC| 11.1.12 @ 9:20AM

I have often said obama could kill Mochella on main st. and eat her, and a huge number of the obama zombies would still vote for him.

The Dims are one big tribe with a few brain cells to share.

buckeyeman| 11.1.12 @ 10:40AM

I hate his guts (yes, I hate HIM, not just his policies) but if he killed Mochella, even I might vote for him.

c. j. acworth| 11.1.12 @ 8:45AM

I would guess that in the event of a Romney win the paper shredders at State and Justice in particular will be running overtime starting 11/7.

Nancy in NC| 11.1.12 @ 9:22AM

Someone in this administration is leaking information about the failures of obama. Perhaps it's coming from the State Dept.

ncatty| 11.1.12 @ 9:56AM

It is the CIA. They will not take the fall for this act of cowardice. The CIA spokesperson pointedly states that no one in the CIA gave an order to stand down. However, the disgusting AP interprets this as no such order was given.

Oldefarte| 11.1.12 @ 1:21PM

If true, that "leaking" will no doubt resemble Hurricane Sandy in its volumn and intensity!!!!

Warrior| 11.1.12 @ 11:55AM

You need to add a few days to let them figure out if they can pull a "Franken" and find ballots in democrat poll workers trunks.

Pecos Pete| 11.1.12 @ 8:48AM

Ferrara's "dishonorable deception and dishonesty" doesn't even come close to describing the traitorous and criminal acts of the Obama Administration and Harry Reid's democrat party control of the Senate.

Vote NO on Obama and vote YES for Republican control of both houses of Congress.

vtwin| 11.1.12 @ 9:12AM

Benghazi? I was sure Peter were going to write about Solyndra or maybe Bill Ayers.

Nancy in NC| 11.1.12 @ 9:18AM

Well, Peter did cover some other things as well. Solyndra is just another one of obama's failures (along with a handful other green companies that took our money and failed big time). Benghazi is just the latest example of obama's incompetence, lack of leadership, and corruption. The guy enjoys "playing" at president, unfortunately, he has no idea how to do the job.

vtwin| 11.1.12 @ 12:38PM

Next week, we’ll see what the majority of the American people think of Obama competence and leadership.

Oldefarte| 11.1.12 @ 1:07PM

And hopefully the American people are smart enough now to understand Frank Marshall Davis' protege is a communist, a socialist, a Marxist and that he should not be a POTUS!!!!!!!!

Pecos Pete| 11.1.12 @ 9:24AM

vtwin is a slime ball for not believing that four good men died on behalf of the USA.

vtwin| 11.1.12 @ 12:33PM

It’s not a question of my beliefs; four Americans were killed in Benghazi.

Oldefarte| 11.1.12 @ 1:14PM

Killed????? Try this instead:

"American Ambassador Chris Stevens was captured, sodomized, and brutally murdered, dragged bloody and half naked through the streets"

DRed| 11.1.12 @ 2:50PM

There's no credible evidence that he was sodomized, and when he was being 'dragged bloody and half naked through the streets' he was being taken to a hospital.

Oldefarte| 11.1.12 @ 3:58PM

BS....and LYING BS as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DRed| 11.1.12 @ 4:04PM

The report that Stevens was raped comes from a Lebanese newspaper, which claimed that the Agence France-Presse reported the rape. The AFP denies that it ever did. And then the usual right wing misinformation machine has just been repeating the unsubstantiated claim endlessly since.

John Navratil| 11.1.12 @ 5:39PM

Dred,

I must agree.

John II| 11.1.12 @ 10:24PM

Rape schmape. What the hell are you all talking about? I can't believe I'm reading this.

DReddie, let me translate all this into simple language that you can understand. The President of the United States betrayed his duty and his country as Commander-in-Chief. The piece of garbage and his degenerate retinue are not FIT for the offices they occupy.

Is THAT clear?

I don't know whether it's your icy smugness or your lefty hatred of America that bothers me more. But you tripped my wire. Congratulations, punk.

Never darken my towels again!

DRed| 11.1.12 @ 10:36PM

Huh? What can't you believe?

John II| 11.1.12 @ 10:39PM

Never darken my towels again.

DRed| 11.1.12 @ 11:13PM

I never had you figured for a Marxist. I guess I'll have to look to someone else on this site to lob trite insults my way.

As to the made up rape-well, I'm not as into armchair psychology as you are, Professor. But it probably says something about you all for believing it. Relishing it, even.

John II| 11.2.12 @ 5:56PM

Whaddaya mean "trite"? I stole it from one of the truly great films of cinematic history.

sylercider| 11.1.12 @ 3:08PM

So, Oldefarte, you believe the media when they report something that makes Obama look bad. But, if they report something that makes Obama look good, then they're just manipulating the truth.

I guess if that makes you sleep better at night, then more power to you.

Oldefarte| 11.1.12 @ 4:00PM

Try this and then see how much sleep you obtain if you're truthful with that image in your mirror:

http://www.newsmax.com/FrankGa...../id/461469

sylercider| 11.1.12 @ 6:43PM

Seriously, you get your stories from newsmax.com?
Even Fox News won't touch that conspiracy story.

Thank you, Oldefarte, you proved my point: you'll believe anything if makes Obama look bad, and you won't believe anything if it makes him look good.

Gary B| 11.1.12 @ 9:10PM

How can an amoral reptile ever look good except by accident? Regardless of Newsmax or any other news organization, Obama hates the whole idea of America and wants it dead. So, how much fairness does that terrorist-loving SOB deserve?

sylercider| 11.2.12 @ 11:42AM

"amoral reptile"??
"Obama hates the whole idea of America and wants it dead"??

Gary B, how did you ever graduate from high school? Or did you?

Warrior| 11.1.12 @ 11:59AM

Good point. Mr. Ferrara should write an article that starts with Ayers and lists every deception the Marxist has used up to and including Benghazi. It would probably run the same length as the Unafforable Care Act.

You are still an asshole.

Oldefarte| 11.1.12 @ 1:12PM

Want to refresh your memory of this article?:

"American Ambassador Chris Stevens was captured, sodomized, and brutally murdered, dragged bloody and half naked through the streets"

Nancy in NC| 11.1.12 @ 9:14AM

I am unsure of Peter's timeline on one part of this article (which is excellent). I thought Susan Rice made her "Tell the lie" tour before Obama's "Spread the Lie" speech at the UN. But I could be mistaken.

Oldefarte| 11.1.12 @ 1:24PM

Susan was spreading the lie about him long before 11/4/08....the five TV show appearances after 9/11/12 was just a continuation of same. Her history with THE BLACK JESUS parallels that of Valerie Garrett!!!!!!

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.1.12 @ 9:39AM

Peter, everyone's summation ends with the election.....what if.....WHAT IF the "gimmie my sruff" voters prevail next week?

Honestly, man...where do we go from there? For lack of a better term...call me. a refusenik".

I will refuse to obey "Presidential Order laws,past and present" ..... period!

A Texas citizen.....my Reps ana Senators LISTEN to me. They understand NOT to do so will simply get them shot. (that is called deterence)......

See, as Texans themselves in these days each of them have a half a million bullets pinned to an Obama vote.....right on their chest...and they know it.
Would that every Congressman had to deal with reality.

C Smith | 11.1.12 @ 11:22AM

To All Americans in the World,

There was a day when General Sam Houston "ordered" that the Alamo Mission be torched. Yet the remnant of the “First Company of Texas Volunteers” under an azure blue flag emblazoned with the words “God and Liberty” would not "STAND DOWN." In the days that followed 26-year-old Lt. Col. William Barret Travis with a nondescript contingency of 20 Army Regulars, cast his lot with those preferring to "die in these ditches than give up to the enemy."

On February 24, 1836, William Barret Travis Lt. Col. Comdt. of the Alamo mission pleads:

"To the People of Texas and All Americans in the world"

"I am besieged, by a thousand.... The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword.... I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, and our flag still waves proudly from the walls. I shall never surrender or retreat. Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid.... If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible and die like a soldier who never forgets what is due to his own honor & that of his country − Victory or Death."
P.S. The Lord is on our side....

C Smith | 11.1.12 @ 11:23AM

On March 3, 1836 in his final communiqué, Travis writes "... if my countrymen do not rally to my relief, I am determined to perish in the defense of this place, and my bones shall reproach my country for her neglect.... All the citizens of this place that have not joined us are with the enemy fighting against us. Let the government declare them public enemies...."

On September 11, 2012 retired U.S. Navy SEAL Senior Chief Petty Officer Tyrone Woods like Lt. Col Travis in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, came to the aid of his compatriots in the Benghazi mission. He would not "STAND DOWN." When his countrymen would not rally to his relief, he perished, his bones reproaching his country for her neglect.

The words and the acts of the righteous have a legacy:

At dawn on the first of March, responding to Travis' plea, Lt. George C. Kimble with his "Immortal 32" fought their way into the beleaguered mission, never to leave. Unbeknown to the besieged defenders, that night in Washington-on-the-Brazos, delegates were frantically preparing the final draft of The Texas Declaration of Independence. The following day declared, "Here a Nation was born." Four days later at dawn, the Alamo's defenders ratified it with their blood.

C Smith | 11.1.12 @ 11:24AM

Within four fortnights, the Texan militia came to the aid of their "fallen" brethren charging Santa Anna's far superior forces, to the rallying cry "Remember the Alamo!" The slaughter that hardly lasted twenty minutes was "frightful to behold", an overwhelming defeat for the merciless Santa Anna who was later found cowering among the multitude of prisoners. That evening peace had come to the commonwealth of Texas.

What is the legacy of Benghazi? In coming days that threaten to be the "Death" of America, will we "STAND UP" and shout the rallying cry "Remember Benghazi"? Taking no prisoners of those who make "lies" their refuge, and by their "silence" make a prisoner of Truth? This our only choice:
"Victory or Death."

Oldefarte| 11.1.12 @ 12:08PM

This sentence in Peter's always outstanding editorial tells the whole story " American Ambassador Chris Stevens was captured, sodomized, and brutally murdered, dragged bloody and half naked through the streets" And his last paragraph rightly instructs the necessity of what you must do on 11/6/12.....NOW DO IT!!!!

Oldefarte| 11.1.12 @ 1:00PM

PS: Continuing my thoughts, I simply do not understand how anyone of right mind could vote to re-elect this POTUS after the revelations of the last four years. Are people really that stupid? Do they not GET IT [as TLP says]? I believe these polls [as they are part of the MSM] are manipulated to his advantage indicating this race is tied 50-50, so I'm not concernied with same. However if somehow he manages to squeek out a victory through political corruption etc, this country is doomed to destruction, period. I'm counting on the intelligence of the American public in now understanding who/what he is/isn't [I'd suggest a reading of TAS's cover article of last month concerning Frank Marshall Davis' influence over this POTUS to anyone still ignorant of same] in resulting in a needed victory for Republicans on 11/6/12!!!!!!!!!

djn1313| 11.1.12 @ 12:59PM

This is reason enough to vote this traitor out of office. He is too close to our enemy, the muslim brotherhood terrorists. He used US taxpayers money to arm and fund these people, and four Americans paid with their lives while he watched.
If you vote for obama, you are not a true American. We need a leader that puts this nation and its people first. At least give Romney a chance by voting for him on Nov. 6th.

Oldefarte| 11.1.12 @ 1:03PM

Amen....well stated!!!!!!!!

Gary B| 11.1.12 @ 9:14PM

Amen!

Akaky| 11.1.12 @ 2:21PM

Absolute knowledge have I none,
But my aunt's washerwoman's sister's son
Heard a policeman on his beat
Say to a laborer in the street
That he had a letter just last week --
A letter which he did not seek --
From a Chinese merchant in Timbuktoo
Who said that his brother in Cuba knew
Of an Indian chief in a Texas town,
Who got the dope from a circus clown,
That a man in the Klondike had it straight
From a guy in a South American state,
That a wild man over in Borneo
Was told by a woman who claimed to know,
Of a well-known society rake,
Whose mother-in-law will undertake
To prove that her husband's sister's niece
Has stated plain in a printed piece
That she has a son she never does see
Who knows what happened in Benghazi.

With many apologies to Senator Henry Cabot Lodge, Sr.

sylercider| 11.1.12 @ 2:40PM

Wow, the supporters of American Spectator have gone full-blown right wing conspiracy theorist.

Townhall is the ACLU compared to you guys.

"P.S. The Lord is on our side....", that about sums up the problem with conservative thinking.

John Navratil| 11.1.12 @ 3:35PM

sylercider,

So who is one your side? Obama?

Also, if you see a conspiracy could you tell me what the plot is? I missed it.

sylercider| 11.1.12 @ 7:06PM

John, throughout history, countries have justified their insane actions by stating that "God is on our side". I can justify anything (slavery, murder, rape, child abuse, etc.) by using stories from the Bible.

Was God on our side during Vietnam? How about when we were killing Native Americans? How about during the times of slavery?

You want examples of posters that believe in a conspiracy? Ok, here ya go:
Darin: "the media has killed the story..."
Subvet: "Peter what is the CIA's role in this ? I say they are the ones in control."
Oldefarte: "If true, that "leaking" will no doubt resemble Hurricane Sandy in its volumn and intensity!!!!"
Pecos Pete: "...the traitorous and criminal acts of the Obama Administration."
Oldefarte:"American Ambassador Chris Stevens was captured, sodomized, and brutally murdered, dragged bloody and half naked through the streets"
djn1313: "He [Obama] is too close to our enemy, the muslim brotherhood terrorists."

It doesn't get much wackier than that, John.

I have no problem with people having different political views than me. Heck, I enjoy reading what people on the right think about taxes, welfare, gay marriage, abortion, etc because it forces me to re-think my stance on those issues.
What I have a problem with are people that try to inflate their arguments with idiotic stories.

Obama does not want to ruin America. He isn't turning America into a socialist country. There is nothing he has done that deserves him being called a traitor.

John Navratil| 11.1.12 @ 8:18PM

sylercider,

People claim truth through association everywhere. Demagogues are particularly atrocious at this. To claim God is on one's side is to claim the moral high ground for those who worship God. Generally, to claim that God is on one's side isn't particularly convincing when one is advocating pederasty, for example.

The Left justifies their insane actions by stating things like "the earth is warming/cooling/changing" or that "fairness compels" or that "reasonable people agree". God isn't claimed, but an appeal to a higher authority is made. You claim that what is wrong with the right is that their appeal is to God being on their side say nothing against their views but merely denigrates their appeal to God. Hence the question of whom did you claim on your side? God seem to present a problem.

As to conspiracies.

Darin claims "the media has killed the story." Look around. There IS a story. It is not covered on the MSM, only Fox and a few others. Does Fox have the story wrong? Is it a fabrication?

SUBVET asks "Peter what is the CIA's role in this ? I say they are the ones in control." That seems to be a question followed by an opinion. Conspiratorial? It's a stretch.

Oldefarte speculates, in response to a suggestion that State is leaking (now THAT'S news) that "If true, that "leaking" will no doubt resemble Hurricane Sandy".
...

John Navratil| 11.1.12 @ 8:18PM

...
Pecos Pete calls Obama's acts traitorous. etc., etc. etc. These are OPINIONS. They are opinions of the right, no doubt. About the only one that gets close to conspiracy theories is SUBVET's suggestion that the CIA may have an agenda. They are wacky to you, do doubt!

You close by stating your disagreement with the right through your opinions that "Obama does not want to ruin America. He isn't turning America into a socialist country. There is nothing he has done that deserves him being called a traitor."

We disagree!

Whether Obama wants to ruin America is immaterial. In my opinion he is. We can discuss that.

I disagree that he isn't turning America into a socialist country. We can discuss that.

The traitor claim is tough because it calls motivation into account. "Loose lips" aren't necessarily traitorous. His comments to Medvedev are disturbing to me. We can discuss that.

Now, tell me a bit more about the problem with conservative thinking!

sylercider| 11.2.12 @ 11:45AM

I don't need to tell you anymore about the conservative thinking on American Spectator, you've said enough.

Looking Up| 11.1.12 @ 3:58PM

What would you say to liberal Christians that hold this position?

Are they not convinced Jesus is on THEIR side?

sylercider| 11.1.12 @ 7:08PM

I don't believe "liberal Christians" use God as an excuse to justify cruel actions.

John Navratil| 11.1.12 @ 8:22PM

sylercider,

What do you believe?

sylercider| 11.2.12 @ 11:59AM

John Navratil, are you asking about my religious views? I'm not sure how this pertains to the story at hand, but ...

I don't believe in a God that murders innocent people just to prove a point.
I don't believe in a God that doesn't abhor slavery.
I don't believe in a God that views women as second class citizens.
I don't believe in a God that is so self-centered that he requires everyone to submit to him in order to be invited to his house (heaven).
I don't believe in a God that would allow a repentant murderer into heaven before he would allow me.

I believe in my life here and now. I try to be a good person not because I'm afraid of going to hell, but because it's the right thing to do.

So, John Navratil, tell me... are you good only because the Bible tells you to be good? You need the Bible to tell you that killing another human is wrong? That stealing is wrong? That being mean is wrong?

Oldefarte| 11.1.12 @ 4:03PM

Yeah it's all one big RIGHT WINGED CONSPIRACY according to you and HillyBilly, right? Okay, then try the following and see how that coincides with you theories regarding conspiracy:

http://www.newsmax.com/FrankGa...../id/461469

sylercider| 11.1.12 @ 7:15PM

Again, Oldefarte, I can't believe that you get your stories from newsmax.com.

I mean, come on, Frank Gaffney??? The same guy that believes the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the US govt??

Maybe, Oldefarte, you need to get a broader perspective on things.

John Navratil| 11.1.12 @ 8:21PM

sylercider,

Or, perhaps, you do? Something more than your incredulity might be persuasive.

sylercider| 11.2.12 @ 12:03PM

John, excuse me, but my perspective is very broad. How do you think I knew who Frank Gaffney was?

I listen to NPR, BBC, FOX, CNN, Christian Science Monitor and many other news sources.

Oldefarte just seems to bring up the same source every time. I find it odd that not one major news source, not even FOX, carries his Frank Gaffney story.

Ralph Novy| 11.1.12 @ 4:34PM

Bob Cesca puts dishonest, pseudo-patriotic rants like yours in rational perspective, Ferrara.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....59227.html

Read it, if you have any capacity for self-reflection.

John Navratil| 11.1.12 @ 5:08PM

Ralph Novy,

Do you beg the question, or what? The opening sentence in this bit of "Bush did it too" frippery is "I've had this ongoing theory that if Al Gore had been president during 9/11, the Republicans would've tried to impeach him for allowing it to happen."

It then goes on to assume as fact that Bush had the facts to know the 9/11 attacks were imminent and that had he paid sufficient attention and listened to Richard Clarke, it may have been prevented.

Had Cesca recounted the counter-terrorism actions of the previous administration which Clarke served he might have been given a few points for balance. Instead he treats the Benghazi fiasco as being just a 9/11 redux.

Certainly Obama is criticized for being unprepared for Benghazi as Bush was critized. We might note that eleven years and two wars later we know a lot more now than then, but that argument descends into equating the two 9/11 attacks. That is not the point.

Obama has gone to great lengths to color the Benghazi attack as something it wasn't - a riot evolving into an attack. He didn't come to the people and say, our embassy was attacked, our ambassador was killed, this is an attack on America and will be treated as such. No! Bush did that and that's the difference.

Reflect on that!

Anthony| 11.1.12 @ 4:37PM

Read the Las Vegas Review editorial on Obozo at Breitbart.
It totally and completely levels the Muslim Marxist and his whores in the media.
Yet, all DRed and vtwin can do is scream it's all a right wing plot that Ambassador Stevens was raped and sodomized.
I really, really, really can't wait for Tuesday.
I really, really, really can't wait to kick some ass.

John Navratil| 11.1.12 @ 5:19PM

Anthony,

I hope we are done on Tuesday. I don't think we will be.

Warrior| 11.1.12 @ 5:48PM

You will have at least a weeks worth of alleged voter fraud, threatened/actual recounts and absentee ballot suppression to navigate.

Gary B| 11.1.12 @ 9:16PM

Unless there is a landslide. That would fix matters.

John II| 11.1.12 @ 11:01PM

So we pray for a 1980-type landslide. After all, we're benighted right-wingers. We pray, and stuff like that.

Marc Jeric| 11.1.12 @ 5:00PM

After a full 2-weeks and longer of consistent lying as to the causes of that jihadist attack on the US Embassy in Benghazi by Obama, Clinton, Rice, and Carney where they all unanimously blamed an obscure “U-Tube disgusting film trailer” criticizing Prophet Mohammed, finally the facts prevailed. The attack on the anniversary of the September 11 original terrorist attack was a result of a careful and long-term jihadist preparation designed to avenge the killing of Osama bin Laden. But today all four of these bare-faced liars claimed that they had said no such thing. It is clear that this jihadist attack is one result of the Obama’s failed policy of “The Arab Spring” that would lead to “democratic” governments in Tunisia, Libya, and Egypt – where extreme jihadist governments are now solidifying their hold on power. The worst facts in this entire affair are:
1) The Benghazi attack had absolutely nothing to do with that U-Tube film trailer issued back in July that nobody in the Muslim world had seen before that attack and other Muslim demonstrations;
2) An independent Lebanese journalist described and photographed the execution of the American ambassador: he was stripped naked, bent over by force, and sodomized by a thick broom handle before being executed by a bullet in the head;
3) However, the author of that film trailer is now in prison under the Obama’s FBI tender care, using a weak excuse of parole violation for some “financial misdeed” in the past.

Controse| 11.1.12 @ 10:52PM

Here is a bulletin for the author about the pervasiveness of Obama, or whoever he is, coddling in the MSM. The Wall Street Journal has yet to report on the Benghazi betrayal. Even the editorial page has only obliquely referenced this monstrous scandal.

John II| 11.1.12 @ 11:04PM

Maybe they're jealous that they got scooped by Fox. On the other hand, maybe they just don't give a damn. My disgust with the Left goes much deeper than economics, so it doesn't faze me to suggest that the WSJ types aren't much interested in anything but the bottom line.

Robert17| 11.3.12 @ 12:15PM

I think this sums it up nicely.
http://youtu.be/dnnExRYQ9CY

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