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Political Hay
The Candy Crowley Tipping Point
CNN debate moderator becomes to the media what the Tet Offensive was to Vietnam: Did she elect Mitt Romney?
(Page 3 of 5)
Then, on Tuesday night, Candy Crowley tried to give him cover.
As the criticism of her performance piled up, Crowley hastily beat a retreat after the debate ended. Romney, she conceded on CNN air, was “right” after all.
Oops.
Of course he was right.
Too late now.
No matter how the liberal media tries to scrub it (as here in the HuffPo, where Rebecca Shapiro laughingly defends the Obama lie outright by simply writing a false story saying Romney was “fact checked”), Crowley has illustrated in vivid fashion just how the Obama media plays the game.
Not for nothing did former New Hampshire Governor John Sununu describe CNN as the “Groupie” network.
Why is this important now?
In all the debate analyses of Tuesday’s debate there seems to be something that is forgotten. Obama is a president with a four-year record. Every single time Americans go to the gas pump, the Obama record is staring them in the face. On Tuesday night, in relentlessly direct fashion, Mitt Romney worked his way through the wreckage that is the Obama record — from those “four bucks” gas prices to the 23 million unemployed to the 15%-plus poverty rate to the 47 million now on food stamps.
The Obama record is not a theory. It is not a gauzy “hope and change” view of the future. It is everyday reality for millions. Say again: reality.
After CNN was through giving the debate to Obama, there was the alarmed acknowledgment that well, yes — on the issue of the economy, the issue dominating the campaign — Romney was in fact trouncing Obama 58%-40% in a CNN poll. John King noted grimly that if those numbers were true, the election was over.
To believe that someone who has no job, someone struggling to pay for a gallon of gas, someone who is reduced to food stamps and is damn angry about it — is sitting on a sofa grading the latest debates on “points” is somewhere beyond rationality.
Which brings us back to Candy Crowley.
Somewhere along the line I’ve met Candy Crowley. She’s a nice soul. But she made a mistake the other night, and in the context of this election, with millions believing the mainstream media is in the tank for Obama — that urge to jump into the debate and do “fact-finding” on the fly has now become emblematic.
A tipping point, to borrow from author Malcolm Gladwell’s best seller The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference.
About the Author
Jeffrey Lord is a former Reagan White House political director and author. He writes from Pennsylvania at jlpa1@aol.com.
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spike59| 10.18.12 @ 6:14AM
"Candy Crowley"..."Tipping"...too easy...must...resist...obvious tasteless joke....
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 6:56AM
Can anyone tell me why Candy Crowley had a transcript of what Obama said in the Rose Garden, and more importantly how did Obama know she had it when he asked her to refer to it during the debate last night?
THAT'S the real question. How did Obama know Crowley had a copy of the transcript? Because he said directly to Crowley, not Romney, "Get the transcript". Like she was his secretary and he was ordering her to get it. Why did he tell her to get it? How did he know she had it? Something smells rotten here.
Something sure does. I had to really search for it but it's on page 8 of the transcript that ABC news had.
ROMNEY: You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack, it was an act of terror.
It was not a spontaneous demonstration, is that what you're saying?
OBAMA: Please proceed governor.
ROMNEY: I want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of
terror.
OBAMA: Get the transcript.
CROWLEY: It - it - it - he did in fact, sir. So let me -let me call it an act of terror.
OBAMA: Can you say that a little louder, Candy?
CROWLEY: He - he did call it an act of terror. It did as well take - it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. You are correct about that.
So how did the Amazing Kreskin know this fact if it wasn't predetermined? Or was The Muslim allowed to peruse all of Crowley's materials before the debate?
MainelyDoc| 10.18.12 @ 7:05AM
I, too, have wondered why, in her skim pile of papers on her podium, did she just happen to have a copy of the transcript of that speech. It was a setup. Why has not one of the pundits on any network asked the same question?
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 7:08AM
And you thought they couldn't get any lower.
Don't be surprised if Schieffer POISONS Romney's Glass of Water.
This was Bob Schieffer on Imus' Show a while back, when News came out that LBJ had a Secret Taping System in the Oval Office, even before Nixon did - He said this: "When I heard about this? I really felt sad. When Nixon did it. I was just MAD."
There ya have it.
Just as unbiased as all of the other Cult Members who go to bed each night with a Salami up their @ss, and Dreaming it's The One.
Von Mises Jr| 10.18.12 @ 7:34AM
You got it Tim. She didn't even fumble through her notes to find the quote that was then misconstrued. It reeks of collusion!!!
Here is what people are starting to understand that you and I have realized a long time ago:
The primary scandal is the war room planning to create erroneous storylines to advance a Marxist agenda. Conservatives would never dream up a "Fast and Furious" or have this "internet video" scheme planned out waiting to spring it as an attack on Christianity and Romney.
Think about it. Obama and Holder looked at the Bush "Wide Receiver" Program that was a failure, and then reignited it with evil and duplicitous intent. Wide Receiver was a program where 400 guns were walked with RFID tags where a couple thousand arrests were made before the drug gangs figured out the sting. "Fast and Furious" had 2,500 automatic weapons that were NOT tracked. The intent was to arm drug gangs, get Mexicans murdered and use this self-directed tragedy to take away American's gun rights. It is a Marxist plan to enslave Americans by eliminating their freedoms.
The same deception was obviously planned in the internet video scheme. While I do not believe that the regime was complicit in an attack, they had a scheme in their back pocket to make any terrorist attack convertible to an attack on Romney. They seem to have schemed: Romney is a Mormon. Mormons are right-wing religious fanatics. Pin terrorism on a right-wing Christian. Therefore Romney is responsible for terrorism.
CJW| 10.18.12 @ 8:16AM
Von
Crowley and her staff selected the questions, I believe, therefore she was prepared for the question to help Obama if necessary. Another white liberal with a guilty consciensce who believes little Obama needs help and special treatment.
Good work, Tim.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 8:39AM
"Good work Tim."
Yeah? Don't think I don't know what's going on, here.
Tomorrow's Friday, and The early Apple Polisher gets the Winner's Prize, is that how it is?
I'm on to you CJW.
You better come up with something good, tomorrow, cause Kennesawjack's been sending me Beer in the Mail.
And, last I looked - "Good work, Tim" wasn't Beer.
I'm told by my spies, that we might be getting a visit from a Huge Celebrity (in his own mind) tomorrow.
I hope I can count on everyone to be Nice to our Guest. Be Polite. And it wouldn't hurt if you threw a Compliment or two his way, regardless of how TERRIBLE he plays the game.
Seriously. Go easy on him. I have it from a good source, that he recently LOST HIS ASS in the Market, because he doesn't know what the Hell he's doing. So, be nice.
Okay?
Okay.
CJW| 10.18.12 @ 11:11AM
I meant to say GREAT work, Tim.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:27PM
You're getting Warmer.
KennesawJack| 10.18.12 @ 4:00PM
Suck up.
CJW| 10.18.12 @ 4:17PM
I view it as affirmative action since I am not creative for poetry, nor watch current movies, nor listen to current music.
CJW| 10.18.12 @ 4:18PM
Ps.
If I make a bad or mediocre entry Crowley/Raddatz will correct my entry.
KennesawJack| 10.18.12 @ 5:12PM
I believe the prize for the worst entry tomorrow is having Crowley comment on your ENTRY. Isn't that right, Tim?
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 4:59PM
Totally.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 5:01PM
That was meant for Jack, but, noe that I see CJW's, it probably could be used for both of your comments.
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
Occam's Tool| 10.18.12 @ 10:42PM
GENTLEMEN And LADIES: check out Powerline Blog! Romney has just pulled ahead of Obama in Florida among Jewish Voters! A genuine Flying Pig moment (Yeah, I did the wordplay deliberately!) And a Candy Crowley tipping moment joke is obviously about tipping over Cows! Go for the Gold, Spike!
Robert| 10.18.12 @ 4:23PM
I would go so far as to say Crowley had this and other questioners placed in the audience precisely to orchestrate the trap. It was a virtual minefield, with each question's facts on the table at the ready for her to rescue obama as soon as he was in trouble. Knowing of this scheme in advance, obama 'inelegantly' asked so directly for Crowley to pull up the relevant transcript (he should have omitted the word "transcript"). Obama decided this was the time to call for a lifeline. Crowley was oh too ready to drop the flag and throw the penalty for obama to trap Romney.
Finally, it was clear to me from the specificity of obama's answers, he had the entire set of questions before the debate. Yet, because the empty suit-empty brain didn't have a Teleprompter, he still needed the assistance of a vocal prompter. Didn't everyone see the ear bud in obama's right ear?
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 8:22AM
But they were complicit in the attack. Think about it, if this was a Private Sector Matter. Let's say that the Embassy was a Coca-Cola Plant in Benghazi, and everything happened to that Coca-Cola Plant, that happened at our Embassy - The Plant had been a focus of Terror Threats and Skirmishes, for Months. The Guy in Charge of the Plant was BEGGING Coca-Cola for More Security. The Company refused, and the Plant was Sacked, Burned to the Ground, and 4 Coca-Cola Employees were MURDERED.
And, not only are they Murdered, but Coke goes on a CYA Offensive, flooding the Airwaves with PROPAGANDA, blaming an old Song by Ringo Starr from back in the 60's. They Demand, and get, his Arrest, only to have to ADMIT - 10 Days Later - that everything they have been saying about What Happened to their people was a FCKNG LIE.
How long do you think The Jury would be out, before they Awarded the Family Members a Gajillion Dollars, and recommended Charges be brought against everybody in the Chain of Command over at Coke?
Obama and Biden and and Obama's B*tch at the State Dept. are not just Complicit.
Their Negligence, and Indifference to these Men's well being, makes them RESPONSIBLE for everything that happened to them.
And they will PAY.
If not in this life?
Then, in the next.
GOD willing.
Alan| 10.18.12 @ 7:57AM
Why should it surprise anybody that this fat pig lives on the marxist's swine farm. The whores in the media have their mouths surgically attached to the massa's bumhole and shit out what he feeds them. They are playing out their last cards in a losing hand.
Aristocat| 10.19.12 @ 12:51AM
Disgraceful comment
Ralph Novy| 10.23.12 @ 6:41AM
I might think it disgraceful if I knew what it meant and at whom it was directed.
LOL
Vance P. Frickey| 10.20.12 @ 11:50PM
Please go help Obama and Biden.
CJW| 10.18.12 @ 8:18AM
Look at the photo of Crowley looking at Obama.
SUBVET| 10.18.12 @ 7:41PM
Anyone see the resemblance of Crowley and John Candy in dragg.
Jade12| 10.18.12 @ 8:51PM
Please DO NOT insult John Candy by comparing him to her.
carly| 10.21.12 @ 1:10AM
I know. Creepy third grade crush BS. I hate commies.
Aristocat| 10.18.12 @ 7:14AM
Don't compare this to Tet...a bizarre comparison.
Notice: This was a set-up...Otherwise, how would Crowley know about an obscure Rose Garden speech? Romney kind of walked into the trap, but he will correct that in the next debate.. Why are the moderators always liberals? But Romney is a man of great courage and he will prevail against them.
R Martin| 10.18.12 @ 7:40AM
"Why are the moderators always liberals?"
This question is asked often but never adequately answered. Here's my response, whenever I'm asked for money by Republicans (at any level, but especially at the national level) I reply that I will make a contribution ONLY after seeing some balance in the selection of debate moderators.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 5:02PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
KennesawJack| 10.18.12 @ 10:16AM
Really tough not to do it, isn't it? Tasteless, maybe but oh, the visual!
KennesawJack| 10.18.12 @ 10:56AM
Above was in response to Spike59's first post. Anyone else having a tough time getting their posts throught?
Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.18.12 @ 11:13AM
If you check, you'll notice a gap in comments from around 8:30 am through 10:45 am. I couldn't get in to pile on Jaset's comments despite several attempts.
Perhaps the administration had a cyber warfare specialist (such as whoever it was who did the Stuxnet virus on the Iranians' nuclear program computers) attack this site as penance for the "Intel Community" for the bad intelligence they gave him on Benghazi (i.e. blaming the attack on a spontaneous demonstration about "The Innocence of Muslims" trailer on Youtube).
CJW| 10.18.12 @ 11:46AM
Your entry last week of the Verdict reminds me of the crooked judge that questioned the plaintiff's doctor to help the crooked incopentent defendant doctor. Crowley acted like the crooked judge trying to help the crooked doctor. As you said, the jury saw through the charade.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 3:45PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
mike 3/505| 10.18.12 @ 4:12PM
B e a c .....never mind
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 5:03PM
You got that right.
Joellen| 10.18.12 @ 6:18PM
Mike, I really do laugh at these. THANKS!
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 6:54PM
Don't encourage him
CJW| 10.18.12 @ 4:38PM
Does my 11:46 comment to Albert count? Winner?
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 5:04PM
Absolutely.
Expect a pair of My Underwear in the Mail.
Alej| 10.18.12 @ 4:23PM
Yep, about every fourth or fifth "reply" of mine pops up far away and unrelated to its location.
Alej| 10.18.12 @ 4:24PM
Like this one just did !
drudge ette obama| 10.18.12 @ 6:21AM
I say it again, Crowley has done America a big favor with her poor performance. Outwardly, she showed her colors - I still fume when I remember her telling Romney to sit down, Her hidden agenda will be evident f she ever reveals the questions that went unaskde.
I hear all these reporters say that they have worked with her and like her - who cares? Nice people can be biased and do a poor job.
Thanks so much, Candy.
spike59| 10.18.12 @ 6:24AM
this morning, Tucker Carlson of the Daily Caller was a guest on RedEye, and he summed it up nicely with describing Crowley as a decent person, but not so much a competent journalist
Jaset| 10.18.12 @ 7:03AM
Tucker Carlson is the biggest dork in the planter, but you closeted freaks love him, don't you?
You people are a walking comedy.
Save a few pennies, pal, and buy yourself a date. You seriously need to get laid. And I'm not talking about your Tucker fantasies.
Clueless, laughable losers.
MacWell™| 10.18.12 @ 7:30AM
Wow Jaset, what a classy reply, while Tucker tries to be a gentleman you attack him, and not what he says, you liberals don't have a clue of how stupid you sound with the same old, same old answer to every debate, ignore the message and attack the messenger. Quite childish, don't you think?
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 7:45AM
Well. Wasn't that nice?
We do enjoy it when one of our "Betters" from the Party of Inclusion and Diversity over there in their Big Tent, shows up here, and Reminds us all once again, why we need to beat this African Marxist Muslim Ccksckr's @ss, in to the Ground.
Remember......Your Weapon is only as good as the Number of Rounds in the Box.
As far as our New Friend - Jaset?
Keep touching yourself in the Mirror while you sniff that Dirty Diaper you found in the Dumpster. (or whatever your Court Appointed Counselor has you doing) You sound like a real Credit to the whole Meagan's Law System of "Borders and Surveillance".
Apparently those Dirty Diapers, your wonderful letters, and your Full Length Mirror and Bottle of Lotion, are keeping your Fckd Up mind in some semblance of Balance.
Ladies and Gentlemen - The Representative of Hope and Change - Jaset - which I'm sure means: "Please Crap in my mouth, over there behind that Truck, and I'll give you a Dollar" in whatever Pig Language this POS speaks when he doesn't have a d*ck in his mouth.
And, even when he does.
KennesawJack| 10.18.12 @ 1:56PM
We'll see who the losers are come November, A**hole. Now, take a deep breath and have another sip of the Kool-Aid. I'm sure it'll fix you right up.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:51PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
spike59| 10.18.12 @ 3:41PM
Save a few pennies, pal, and buy yourself a date. You seriously need to get laid.
-------------------------------------
if i had any spare pennies in this ObaMaoconomy, i'd be able to get your mom AND sister to 'love me long time'...and maybe ObaMaoScare would pay for the syph treatments i'd need afterwards
John Navratil| 10.18.12 @ 7:53AM
spike59,
Why do we have to cover our remarks with "she's a decent person"? I'll stipulate she is a decent person. After four years, it's harder for me to say the same about Obama, but I know he is loved by many and has many friends who, no doubt, think he is decent. Having never met the man, I couldn't not say and won't say otherwise.
Have we come so far in the charade that we cannot criticize someone on the issues without being seen as criticizing them personally? This is the same thing as suggesting that if you don't like Obama you are a racist. Let's cut this out. A decent person can still do a terrible job.
mike 3/505| 10.18.12 @ 8:25AM
"I'll stipulate she is a decent person."
I won't. My position, is that along with being in the tank for President Obama, her problem is like that of any ugly, fat, liberal....she tried to make this debate about her and make herself the center of attention. Her ego tried to write a check her rather large derriere couldn't cash.
Regards to All,
Mike
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:50PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
KennesawJack| 10.18.12 @ 4:04PM
Actually, I think Candy was just feeling all full of herself. With Moochelle the Griftress in the audience there was finally a oman present with a bigger butt than hers. Must have been exhilirating.
mike 3/505| 10.18.12 @ 4:14PM
Musta caused some severe indigestion...I can't believe I ate that whole thing.
CJW| 10.18.12 @ 4:19PM
Are you sure, I thought Michele was in Spain or Hawaii.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 5:06PM
Geez.
I hope you guys get better by tomorrow.
John Navratil| 10.18.12 @ 7:07PM
mike 3/505,
To stipulate means to agree for the sake of argument.
Perhaps your position (not uncommon) is why others feel the need to say that an attack on substance isn't personal.
I find it tedious to have to say my criticism is not personal as I find it tedious to have to defend against suggestions that my criticisms are personal or that I'm a racist for criticising Obama.
Perhaps a ISTPID (I'm sure this person is decent) would be a suitable disclaimer.
carly| 10.21.12 @ 1:12AM
I say it again, this commie cow is not a nice person.
Neither is ovomit.
Their souls are dead. They couldn't do the right thing if you put a big fat binder to their heads.
Minuteman78| 10.18.12 @ 8:18AM
Yes, I originally though Romney was going to punch Obama in the mouth, then I realized he wanted to punch HER in the mouth.
TruSkeptik| 10.18.12 @ 6:37AM
Ms. Crowley was so obviously overmatched by her responsiblities in this connection that watching her was a bit like watching a piece from the theatre of the absurd. Logic and order were tossed out of the nearest window, and if there was no window nearby, she carved one out of the flimsy set that was her overtly biased intelligence. Frankly, she has given her employer, and all of mainstream media such a blackeye that I am very surprised she is still employed. There can be nothing more distasteful than watching a morbidly obese protolesbian fawning over anyone, much less this third rate community organizer of unknown parentage . On this point I am fascinated by the theory recently offered that Frank Marshall Davis is actaully Obama's biological father. Take a look at the photographs of Obama, Davis and the fellow who is said to be Obama's father and I think you will be as intrigued as I. America has dipped its collective toe into the chimerical swamp of a pure media creation in Mr. Obama and I pray the American People have the collective wisdom to see the dangers they have been courting. We shall see.
Darin| 10.18.12 @ 6:43AM
The released birth certificate has been shown to be a fraud for multiple reasons. Whether the true will ever come out is unknown (and don't count on the media doing anything about it).
Darin| 10.18.12 @ 6:42AM
All true, but will it matter? I still hear people say there is no media bias, and these are people I consider intelligent. There is none so blind as those who will not see. There is a large portion of the population who believe they have a right to what someone else has earned (free Obama phone, food stamps, welfare check, etc.) and never once realize the money to pay for those things comes from others (not from Obama). Individual accomplishment and self-sufficiency are belittled (and taxed to death). "You didn't make that happen" is the mantra of the parasite, and too many of those parasites are more than happy to vote themselves the earnings of others.
Joellen| 10.18.12 @ 6:46AM
Candy Crowley, Chris Matthews, Al Sharpton, Peggy Noonan, how many times have we heard "he/she's a nice person"? Tell me please, anyone, how "nice" is a person who is actively cheating, lying, distorting and spearheading for the leftist agenda as opposed to reporting the facts and then leaving it to the individual to determine what she or he decides. I dont want to now or ever have a beer with Obama, he is not a "nice" guy. I wont be happily giddy if Bubba Clinton hits on me, he is not a "good ole boy", he is a Rapist. I dont want the DC politician to be in my pockets. I want these Representatives to represent the United States of America by abiding by the Constitution and I want them to acknowledge that it should only be for a few years - then get out and let the farmer, baker, waitress, anyone who is qualified in any manner to get in and do their duty for the country. I want the media to acknowledge their only job is to report the facts, not their agenda. If they have an agenda, they can do like the rest of us, write a letter to the editor. Their word, like Hollyweird's, should have no more merit than ours. So, please Messrs. Lord, Stein, etc., stop telling us what "nice" guys these people are. I for one am not buying it.
MacWell™| 10.18.12 @ 7:31AM
Bravo Joellen and well said.
John Navratil| 10.18.12 @ 7:55AM
Joellen,
I should have read your post before I posted mine. Bingo!
Seek| 10.18.12 @ 4:09PM
If there is a "Hollywood agenda," I haven't noticed.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 5:07PM
That's because you're an Idiot.
Stkman| 10.18.12 @ 5:56PM
You haven't noticed how cuss words are on TV before 9:00 pm ? You haven't noticed Victoria Secret modeling specials on CBS before 9:00pm ? You don't hear Susan Serrandon, or any of those other know nothing actors and actresses telling us how good any Democrat is and how bad and Republican is?
So what you're saying is you don't have a TV, VCR, DVD player, no radio and haven't been to the movies in the last 20 yrs? You look at sex on your computer but you don't call it porn do you?
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 6:58PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
JmsA| 10.18.12 @ 8:08PM
Ouch! 69%
JmsA| 10.18.12 @ 8:10PM
Previous comment was directed at seek; 69%.
Jade12| 10.18.12 @ 8:58PM
Agreed!
Ken (Old Texican)| 10.19.12 @ 8:33AM
Hi Joellen. Thank you. I have a new friend.
carly| 10.21.12 @ 1:13AM
^5 Joellen
Appleby| 10.18.12 @ 6:53AM
If there was anybody in America who believed for a nanosecond that Candy Crowley would do other than she did, from the day they heard her announced as "moderator", then that person should immediately be disqualified from voting on the basis that he or she is a full time resident of Fantasyland. And anybody who heard someone ask Mr. Romney as a "debate" question, to explain how he is different from the Liberal's Official Enemy, George W. Bush, and STILL believed in Crowley's impartiality, should be immediately carried away to an insane asylum.
MainelyDoc| 10.18.12 @ 6:59AM
I'm not certain that this tipping point will be long lasting. It may make a difference in the presidential election of 2012, but it will be an eternity before the leftists in the media ever acknowledge that they are, in fact, leftists. People like Crowley think everyone else thinks like they do. She is pathetic.
Jaset| 10.18.12 @ 7:06AM
Yeah. Pathetic. Long after you are gone, which nobody will even notice, the people you drip your bile of hate on will be laughing it up.
You are nobody. You live your life in a pool of hate spitting into a blog. Candy Crowley (and pretty much everyone else in the universe) has more friends in one instant that you'll have for the rest of your life.
Tea Bag losers. Find a date, creeps. You need to get all that pent up rage out into something other than your keyboard.
Darin| 10.18.12 @ 7:25AM
Jaset,
What a sad individual you must be. But you do make MainelyDoc's point.
junkyard infidel| 10.18.12 @ 11:39AM
seems you know all too well about soiling a keyboard and teabagging, eh ? sitting in mommy's basement jacked up on red bull and eating cheetos while pounding out ignorant nonsense in between porn site visits is so progressive ! uncle daddy and aunt mommy must be so proud of their little inbred troll !
Warrior| 10.18.12 @ 2:45PM
I prefer the terms product of Oedipal love and troglodyte better.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:49PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
carly| 10.21.12 @ 1:18AM
Project much?
Did you know you are considered extremely lucky if you have ONE true friend in your life? I won the jackpot, my spouse has been my best friend for 35 years and will be until we die. The jackpot is I had a very good friend for 15 years before I lost her in Jan. Not every person you know is a friend. The commie cow may know a lot of people, but I doubt she has one true friend.
Jaset| 10.18.12 @ 7:01AM
Keep hyperventilating, nutbags. You people whine about everything. Now your fate is being determined by a few words uttered by a woman in one debate. Gasp!
Your sad fate is determined by idiots like Todd Akin and Sharron Angle and losers like Herman Cain. Your party is a joke. Young people despise the GOP as do Latinos - two voting blocs that just keep growing.
But you brilliant people keep courting that dependable bloc - old, white men, Most of whom will be long gone in a few short years.
Great strategy, losers. Oh, but instead of thinking past your Birthers creepiness and your hatred of women and the media, you just whine about those people who make your life soooo hard.
Look in the mirror, duds. It's not pretty, but it is the image of a loser who is killing your 1950s party of old, pasty creeps!
Bob K| 10.18.12 @ 7:24AM
Dream on Jaset!
Obama is a goner! Conservative writers have to find something new to write about. Everybody knows about his real failures with the economy and foreign policy, not to mention his various attempts to start class warfare among Americans. He will lose because of that.
Darin| 10.18.12 @ 7:27AM
Jaset,
How about some useful comments rather than vile, hate-filled rheteric? Is there nothing in your heart but hate?
TruSkeptik| 10.18.12 @ 7:35AM
Let's see now, we have "nutbags", "you people", "idiots", "losers", "joke", "old, white men", "losers" (again), "creepiness", "duds", "loser", and "creeps". I'm pretty sure you missed a couple of the standard labels here. I didn't see "dirt bags", "trolls" or "murderers". I think you need to work on your perjoratives little friend.
chuck| 10.18.12 @ 7:52AM
Thank you Jaset, for the shining example of the love and compassion of liberals.
I'm sure that after this example of brilliance, we all will change our minds, mend our ways, and join "The One", in his quest to destroy......er......transform our country into utopia.
John Navratil| 10.18.12 @ 7:57AM
Jaset,
I suppose a blow job is out of the question?
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:45PM
Contits, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
John Navratil| 10.18.12 @ 7:08PM
I leg forward to it.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.18.12 @ 8:27AM
I was thinking that Purp and his platoon or lefty trolls had to go to day jobs, as Soros had moved his funding from paying losers to post drivel on the internet to paying for TV ads in battleground states. Apparently, they were in Obama’s debate boot camp with him, listening to Alice Cooper’s “No More Mr. Nice Guy”, and decided to come out more aggressively.
Could JASET actually be an acronym for Journalists And Socialists Evolving Together?
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:44PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:48PM
Actually, I'm thinking that "Jaset" means: "Please Crap in my mouth, over there behind that Truck, and I'll give you a Dollar" in whatever Pig Language this POS speaks when he doesn't have a d*ck in his mouth.
And, even when he does.
KennesawJack| 10.18.12 @ 4:11PM
You're close, Tim. It's really "P*ss" in my mouth, otherwise, you're spot on.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 5:09PM
Suckup.
KennesawJack| 10.18.12 @ 5:15PM
Hah!
Cpm| 10.18.12 @ 2:08PM
Jaset is just padding his meager paycheck because he knows in a couple of short weeks this paying gig will be over and he will have to actually look for a real job.
spike59| 10.18.12 @ 3:45PM
I try to see the good in everyone, jaset; in your case, one day you'll do the planet a service as mulch
Seek| 10.18.12 @ 4:08PM
The rapid growth of Latinos in the U.S. was not "inevitable." It is the result of immigration laws, policies, court decisions and enforcement practices put in place over several decades. Mass Hispanic immigration came about through acts of will; they can be rolled back accordingly.
Joellen| 10.18.12 @ 4:41PM
Jaset, as a conservative Tea Party American, I can attest to the fact that I never felt "hatred" by "fat, old white men" in the Republican Party. As a conservative Tea Party American women I can attest to witnessing your angry, vile, bitter and hateful demeanor from the left in many venues. Your hatred against my faith (Christianity), values and beliefs, my love and loyalty for my country, AMERICA, and my desire to see all LIFE, from conception to natural death, be given their GOD given rights of Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness seems to drive you folks not just batty, but destructive. You demand tolerance from the right, yet you give none. You demand justice for your "social" agenda, but you deny justice for what the "Right" stands for. And your side is forever pounding the table for COMPROMISE yet your team laughs at us when we expect the same. Guess what Jaset, the Tea Party which you abhor so much, has reset the narrative and your hatred is because you know that and you know you cant do anything to stop it. So, with that I say GOD BLESS AMERICA, GOD bless the TAS readers and GOD help us win this upcoming election. By the way, although Todd Akin is NOT my representative, me a WOMAN (and I am not fat) sent him campaign funds HA, just like I did for Alan West, who isnt white but is a BLACK CONSERVATIVE TEA PARTY AMERICAN - HA!
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 5:10PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
carly| 10.21.12 @ 1:20AM
You are on a roll tonight Joellen!
Stkman| 10.18.12 @ 6:00PM
Jaset,
Take away those old white guys and you'd still be crapping in a whole in the ground and playing hunter gatherer with your family. If you knew how to read you could pick up a history book and see what it was that has brought down all the other great democracies. People who thought it was time to do whatever they wanted and take whatever they wanted from whomever they wanted. In otherword, Democrats hjave brought down every great democracy.
Jade12| 10.18.12 @ 9:03PM
Stkman I highly second your post!
Occam's Tool| 10.19.12 @ 12:34AM
Jaset, don't make the Razor cut ya, OK? Do I have to go on about your rotating orifice use to please your jihadist masters, or can I skip that and just call you a catamite?
Martin kzovich| 10.18.12 @ 7:13AM
Crowley's comments verify once again and at a critical moment in our history that the media cannot be trusted. And also shows how phoney Obama and the CPUSA is. So thank you Candy.That said. I support no more debates unless there are two moderators or questioners one for each side.
Bob K| 10.18.12 @ 7:14AM
A 5 page tome on the parsing of a sentence in a political statement made by Obama in the Rose Garden! You have outdone yourself on this one Mr. Lord! Do you really think this issue will last till the election?
Bob K| 10.18.12 @ 7:28AM
The old question will determine the outcome: "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?"
That's why Romney will win.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 5:11PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
Nancy in NC| 10.18.12 @ 7:26AM
If the truth be known, none of these people are "nice" people. They are people who are able to protray nice people. Inside they're more like the "dud" above, Jaset. They're nice when they need to be, but inside they're just like the empty suit occupying the WH...mean and vicious.
Personally, I have written off those kinds of "nice" people in my life. Either they are too stupid to see the truth or they are party to the movement to destroy this country. They feel entitled to live off the backs of others or they are destroying their souls by envying the success of others.
I am sick to death of those who state proudly "I don't pay attention to politics". Because we haven't paid attention to politics for over 100 years the Ruling Elite have taken this Nation to the tipping point. The public education system and the media has reduced this country into a bunch of sheeple who think "Jersey Shore" is entertainment.
And thanks to the complicity of a left wing media we have a Marxist in the WH. He can deny it all he wants and make nice speeches about believing in the free market, yada, yada, yada, but he's still a Marxist.
When someone starts believing the smoke the media blows up their backside, they have lost their soul. Obama believes it, lock, stock, and barrel.
PolishKnight| 10.18.12 @ 4:26PM
Having argued with leftists, trying to pin down what they "really" believe is difficult since when I confront them with the contradictions in their ideology and actions to protect their party, they change the subject or engage in denial in a manner that demonstrates that they are used to doing so. I even caught one in a lie and he quickly dropped it. And these were simply "cheerleaders" for the left. Most of the leftist electorate are simply entitlement seekers who could care less about ideology and don't care where their union position/welfare check comes from.
Obama, on the other hand, is someone actually making money from the ideology, seemingly, but in the end he's just a political animal in it for himself. Consider Bill Clinton: In the end, his administration was little different than his predecessor. This is why it's hard to find successful conservative politicians: By definition, a successful politician is a creature for winning elections via greasing palms and trying to be as neutral as possible and avoid directly offending people.
Ironically... perhaps that's how Obama lost the debates. In the past, his surrogates said the nasty stuff (bash the rich, white males, etc.) and he could be all smiles. Now, he's having to show his ugly side.
Nancy in NC| 10.18.12 @ 7:28AM
Why does the RNC always go along to get along? They should grow some cojones and refuse moderators like Crowley.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:43PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
JFGalt| 10.18.12 @ 7:32AM
Did Ms. Crowley happen to have a copy of the Rose Garden speech transcript with her or was that a prepared in advance moment? Because it seems like they were parsing EXACT words. I know that OBAMA! didn't have the transcript.
MacWell™| 10.18.12 @ 7:46AM
It's such a shame that liberals are so hostile all the time. Some of them are really nice people, who're just mixed up. It's okay to be angry you libs, I would be too if I helped elect Barack Hussein Obama, and his band of merry psychopaths out to "fundamentally transform" America into something she was NEVER intended to be. I'd be angry if I backed a man who's INTENTION from the beginning, was to take America down a peg. I'd be angry if I supported a man who, by his own admission, fundamentally believes that America is the cause of much of the trouble in the world.
You honorable democrats should be ashamed of yourselves.
Alej| 10.18.12 @ 4:34PM
"You honorable democrats should be ashamed of yourselves."
Damn right. Both of you.
KennesawJack| 10.18.12 @ 5:16PM
There's two?
JimH| 10.18.12 @ 7:57AM
It was like Tet in the sense that it was a victory for Mitt being portrayed by the MSM as a win for the other side.
fauowl66| 10.18.12 @ 8:04AM
Thomas Jefferson left us with a multitude of sage advice. Among those are:
1. All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
2. Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.
3. No government ought to be without censors; and where the press is free no one ever will.
Ms. Crowley violated each and every one of these pieces of advice with her public display of her love affair of Mr. Obama. Great article.
LarryK| 10.18.12 @ 8:12AM
All you need to do is look at the picture.
She is orgasmic at the presence of "The Chosen One".
Hardcard| 10.18.12 @ 8:24AM
where is georgi soros ?? What's he up to ??
SUBVET| 10.18.12 @ 7:48PM
I heard that he is pulling $$$$ from some of his programs......I think he knows the JIG is up.
superuser| 10.18.12 @ 11:03AM
I find this vaguely troubling.
vtwin| 10.18.12 @ 11:05AM
"No attacks of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation"-- Obama on Benghazi, September, 12th 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nu6VZ9DeVc
Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.18.12 @ 11:17AM
attacks, acts; whatever it takes...
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:42PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
Anthony| 10.18.12 @ 11:44AM
" Hey, we didn't know, ah blame Hillary, and ah, besides, it was the video, even Susan Rice said so, so there."
You can cite all of Obozo's bullshit quotes for the consumption of trolls like you vtwin all day long, but the truth remains, Obozo is an empty suit who hides behind women.
No wonder he's your guy!
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:42PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
spike59| 10.18.12 @ 3:54PM
a bumper sticker...THAT'S your 'declaration?????'
if so, WHY did ObaMao's talking monkey Carney blame this on 'the video' DAY AFTER DAY and repeatedly claim that there was no indication of any 'terrorist' angle to the attack...why was Susan Rice sent out to do all the Sunday pundit shows to declare this was 'a protest that got out of hand'...why did ObaMao AND Shrillary CONYINUE to blame 'the video' when they were doing their campaing photo op next to the casketed remains of the victims of their ineptitude...why did ObaMao babble on about 'the video' in front of the UN AND on his multiple talk show apperances???? sorry, but reality HAS to intrude at some point-the State Department KNEW in REAL TIME what was going on; the Prez CAN'T credibly claim to say 'it was a terror attack' one day and then spend a half-month claiming it was a 'protest over a video that got out of hand-the Administration-HIS Administration LIED, got caught lying, and has spent weeks and weeks trying to cover up their lies-PERIOD.
KennesawJack| 10.18.12 @ 4:13PM
Commenting on 9/11/01 or weren't you paying attention?
JmsA| 10.18.12 @ 8:34PM
Like a drowning man desperately reaching for pieces of flotsam, he now clings to that he denied and covered up for two weeks. Continuing to talk about it might distract from his other failures, though only for so long, as the end quickly approaches.
Who Knows?| 10.18.12 @ 11:06AM
Intrade has it 36% Romney
spike59| 10.18.12 @ 3:55PM
intrade also predicted the SCOTUS would toss ObaMaoScare in the trash...
CJW| 10.18.12 @ 4:21PM
Who
How much did you lose on the Steelers v. SeaHawks super bowl that your complained about yesterday?
CJW| 10.18.12 @ 11:10AM
How about attacks caused by a video?
Kwan| 10.18.12 @ 11:33AM
Since Obama came upon the national scene we have two realities vying for acceptance. We have the actual reality of Obama's abysmal failure regarding the economy, Middle East, deficit, gasoline prices, health care scamboozle, appointing two brain-dead leftist zombies as Supreme Court Justices, wasting billions of dollars on phony green energy companies that took taxpayer money and went bankrupt, and on and on. Then we have the manufactured reality that portrays him as some sort of super-hero fighting for truth, justice, and the American Way. Fact is Obama reached his ultimate level of incompetence (the Peter Principle), when he was promoted from Junior-level Communist Street Agitator (Community Organizer), to Senior-level Communist Street Agitator (Community Organizer) in the Chicago Ghettos.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 3:48PM
Mr. Kwan.
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
Anthony| 10.18.12 @ 11:37AM
Crowley and her crowd at CNN will go the way of Newsweak soon. This Jurasic brontosaurus has seen the end of the leftist monopoly in the media and she and her kind are destined for the ashheap of history.
It's fitting however that these media whores will come to their demise from a form of global warming miasma hot air that is indeed man made.
Fortunately, it is only lefty media types that will suffer, as the seas will not rise, and the polar bear will continue to thrive.
RIP.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:41PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
Who Knows?| 10.18.12 @ 11:40AM
Truman---the buck stops here.
Clinton---the fuck starts here.
Obama---the muck continues here.
Romney---the luck appears here?
I think a lot of people MAY be dreaming about a surge for Romney that will lead to his win.
Only a month or so ago, the pollsters and the MSM had all but declared it over, hoping to influence the narrative and depress the hope for change for the conservative better. Limbaugh kept pointing to this bandwagon “advertising”, and he was correct.
And, NOW?
Maybe we should be wary of falling for the same poll-driven optimism about Romney. The smart money continues to be on the stupid voters, or the moron vote, as Mr. Tyrrell puts it.
As for Tet and a tipping point---it DID take TWO MONTHS for the seemingly innocuous Tet Offensive to cause LBJ to quit. There are only 19 days until the election, so there isn’t much time for the Crowley “Offensive” moderating tipping point to cause people to put Romney in office.
I sure hope I’m wrong.
It takes a lot of time for fat people to lose weight, and just as there is a plethora of heavy bodies, there is one of heavy minds.
Should there be a “fat head” poll tax?
Grzmlyk| 10.18.12 @ 12:05PM
I think the real truth here is that Romney revealed himself to be a RINO in that debate.
Honestly, there's not much difference between Romney and Obama. Romney's a protectionist (at least he thinks he can dictate to China, but he's wrong); Romney believes in propping up outrageous college tuition prices by keeping the conveyor belt of federal money flowing into loans and Pell Grants, etc.; Romney believes in taxing the wealthy inordinately.
Why have conservatives taken leave of their senses and now are such cheerleaders for Democrat Lite? THIS is why America has fallen apart. Because Republicans are now Democrats.
I think Romney WILL be elected - and not a heck of a lot will change.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:33PM
You're a Total Dick. Ya know that, Dipsh*t?
Of course you do.
Everybody knows it.
Grzmlyk| 10.18.12 @ 3:45PM
Ah, yes. The utterly inchoate, rage-fueled lashing out by our resident village idiot.
Clint, shouldn't you be hanging around the elementary school right about now? I mean, the kids are just getting out - you might find a soul mate.
Is it too much to ask that if you're going to lash out with blind, pathetic rage, that you do it with something approaching intelligence and/or wit?
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 3:54PM
I see no Incoherent, Rage Fueled Lashing Out.
You're a Dick.
A Pompous Ass, who thinks his Shit Don't Stink, and that he's Smarter than everybody in the room.
You're a Dick.
And, you PROVE IT, with every Dick Comment that you write.
Get over yourself.
You're not that bright, Dim Bulb.
In fact.......You're a Moron.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 3:55PM
I shit, bigger'n you.
Grzmlyk| 10.18.12 @ 4:01PM
Clint, I'm truly sorry you are such a frustrated loser.
Rage on, if it makes you feel better about yourself, by all means. When a moron is making a jackass of himself, far be it from me to stand in his way.
Do go on.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 5:13PM
I normally would.
But I wouldn't wanna Stand In Your Way.
CJW| 10.18.12 @ 4:43PM
MrG
Snap out of it!!
You need an intervention?
If you don't snap out of it, I will send you a photoshoped color photo of Barack, Crazy JoeB, NancyPelosi, HarryReid, Michele, Hillary, DebbieDobermanSchulz, HugoChavez SeanPenn, and AlFranken at an innauguration party in January 2013.
Occam's Tool| 10.19.12 @ 12:37AM
Mr. G:
Mitt Romney is not a traitor. He loves this country. Can you say the same about Obama?
I mean, that's what it boils down to. But seriously, can you see Romney vetoing tax cut legislation or regulation cutting bills, or not supporting coal mining and oil drilling?
Grzmlyk| 10.18.12 @ 11:44AM
I do not think a tipping point has been reached. The liberal bias that we see proven on a daily basis is absolutely invisible to liberals.
Guaranteed, most people will see Crowley's putting the thumb on the scale as "fairness."
After all, putting a thumb on the scale is the sine qua non of the liberal concept of fairness.
Nothing will change; Romney may be elected, but he'll be utterly feckless and preside over a collapse, which will in turn usher in a completely Democrat Congress in 2014 and then a Democrat president in 2016. Recycle, rinse, repeat.
We'll probably see Eva Longoria occupying the Oval Office, and the press will suddenly find her almost as Brilliant as the Great God Obama.
spike59| 10.18.12 @ 3:57PM
Guaranteed, most people will see Crowley's putting the thumb on the scale as "fairness."
============================
her network admitted as such; claiming the reason they gave ObaMao more time was because he can't talk fast...affirmative action, CNN-style
Grzmlyk| 10.18.12 @ 4:03PM
Unreal. Obama is not the problem in this country - the problem is the millions of people who've all agreed to pretend he's anything but a puerile, angry, ignorant, bigoted, lazy fool.
That's why we're screwed.
Alej| 10.18.12 @ 4:41PM
"Honestly, there's not much difference between Romney and Obama. "
"Obama is not the problem in this country - the problem is the millions of people who've all agreed to pretend he's anything but a puerile, angry, ignorant, bigoted, lazy fool."
Which is it ?
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 5:15PM
Don't stand in his way.
Butch| 10.18.12 @ 5:44PM
I'll try it. It's both. Obama is the immediate problem, but our dumbed-down electorate is the long-run problem. The head of one of the more prosperous Eastern European governments--maybe the Czech Republic--made a statement to the effect that the problem is not Obama, America can survive Obama; the problem is the kind of people who can elect Obama.
There are those who think we cannot survive as a mass--given the currrent state of that mass--democracy. And yes, I know we are supposedly a constitutional republic, but we elect the president as a democracy, and he currently is exercising extra-constitutional powers.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 7:01PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
p.s. I loved your work in The Little Rascals.
Cincinnatius| 10.18.12 @ 11:46AM
Another title for this great article: The Law of Unintended Consequences. I think Mr. Lord is on to something here, with his assertion that Candy Cowley, I mean Crowley, may very well be the catalyst that gels the ire that has been building with the MSM. At some point, even the dumbest of voters tires of being played as a dumb voter and starts to open their eyes. Ms. Crowley essentially asked the American people to believe her, not their lying eyes and ears. I hope the American people are smart enough to finally start thinking for themselves and loving enough of their country to toss the MSM's bias and do the right thing!
Pecos Pete| 10.18.12 @ 11:50AM
A nightmare for all:
Crisco Crowley and Jaset at the same time on the same screen doing whatever they like to do.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:38PM
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:37PM
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:39PM
Oops.
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
pigdog| 10.18.12 @ 12:12PM
Differences between Romney/Bush: BYU/Harvard vs Yale/Harvard.
Differences between Carter/Obama: Socialist vs Communist.
Differences between John Candy/Candy Crowley: +/- 5 pounds.
Kilgore Trout| 10.18.12 @ 12:26PM
1. NO LEFTY has a kind soul. They're ALL commies at heart.
B. Ditto
Grzmlyk| 10.18.12 @ 1:19PM
Kilgore, I wonder.
I struggle with this - virtually all of my peers, colleagues and tenuous friends are liberals. In fact, I can say absolutely all of them are.
While I agree that leftism is certainly a malevolent, destructive, nihilistic force, I often wonder about the nature of evil: If a person does evil thinking he's doing good, does that make him evil?
For example, doctors used to do bloodletting routinely to cure disease. Clearly this is, in almost all circumstances, antithetical to improving the health of the patient. It is, in fact, an instance of someone peforming an unhealthy act confident that he's helping.
Similarly, many liberals - and I'm the first to call these people fools - believe that, say, minimum wage is a good thing, when in fact it is destructive to the very people they think they're helping.
But you'll never convince a liberal that they're causing harm by their exercise of "compassion" in supporting minimum wage.
Are they benighted? Yes. idiots? No doubt. But evil? Well, part of me says yes, since in many cases it is vanity that makes them support these nihilistic policies. On the other hand, our education system is now a liberal propaganda machine that churns out people with false consciousnesses every single day.
This is a conundrum that is beyond my philosophical realm, but my instinct tells me they can't get off the hook that easily; that they must, in fact, answer for their folly.
Jack London| 10.18.12 @ 1:34PM
"But you'll never convince a liberal that they're causing harm by their exercise of "compassion" in supporting minimum wage."
What advantage is there to a person in being paid a destitution wage? The minimum wage is already only about $15k for a full time worker - could you live on that?
CJW| 10.18.12 @ 1:46PM
What do you propose, Jack
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:37PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
It will be on the Entirety of the last 4 years, and this Election.
Look for the Clues.
John II| 10.18.12 @ 3:04PM
Okay--but don't forget the Saturday deadline, Tim. After all, I have my career to think of, plus more movies to watch.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 3:57PM
You got it.
John II| 10.18.12 @ 2:19PM
A bit more than $20k, actually--but that's not the point.
If you're interested, Jackie, check into the origin and history of minimum wage laws (hint: it had zero to do with helping workers and everything to do with state-sanctioned destruction of small-business competition).
Then check into the consequences for young people trying to break into the labor market.
But the dripping moral smugness of your tone suggests, as usual, that you're not interested anyhow--so skip it.
And now back to "Grapes of Wrath" (1939), a dignified foray into the theme of social justice, both the novel and the screenplay having been written by John Steinbeck back in a era when many liberals still connected with their brains as well as their feelings. Which may explain why Steinbeck was a conservative by the time he died in 1968. Unlike, say, Jack London, who died so fully marinated in his lefty smugness as to have become merely bizarre.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 2:35PM
Contest, Tomorrow.
You might wanna save those Grapes Of Wrath thingies.
DRed| 10.18.12 @ 2:37PM
$7.25 x 40=290. 290 x 52=15,080.
If you're going to be a supercilious pedant, Don Juan, you need to get these things right.
CJW| 10.18.12 @ 3:17PM
What do you propose, comrade.
Jack London| 10.18.12 @ 3:20PM
Romney supports the minimum wage although he's flip-flopped on this (as on everything) by now saying he's not in favor of index-linked increases.
Grzmlyk| 10.18.12 @ 3:34PM
Yes, that is one of the reasons Romney is a RINO. Republicans only suck when they emulate Democrat policies.
John II| 10.18.12 @ 3:43PM
Oh. Sorry, Dreddie--my bad. I wasn't thinking of the Fed minimum wage. Many states, of course, have their own minimum wage laws inspired by the Fed practice, and here in one of the heartlands of the liberal wilderness the figure is much higher--and I was only calculating a 50-week work year.
I appreciate your elevated effort at name-calling, but you've misused both terms:
1. To be "supercilious" means to be groundlessly scornful. My scorn is the consequence of working for years and years and years with people who think, so to speak, like Jackie and yourself.
2. A "pedant," in the terrific mot of Lord Chatham, is "a person who reads only to be called learned." I read at lot, yes, but mostly to make a living. I'd rather be fishing or watching movies or using my otherwise useless scraps of erudition to annoy the hell out of people like you and Jackie.
DRed| 10.18.12 @ 4:00PM
You don't annoy me at all, Don Juan. I find you extremely amusing, and I'm glad you've shuffled down from your ivory tower to start posting here again.
The OED (I had to took it up) defines supercilious as "Haughtily contemptuous in character or demeanour; having or marked by an air of contemptuous superiority or disdain.", which fits you to a t.
John II| 10.18.12 @ 4:12PM
Who's haughty? Hell, my wife still says I'm "cute" and I'm damn near 70.
And what about "pedant"?
DRed| 10.18.12 @ 4:35PM
Well, it's good to know you've still got it with the ladies. Perhaps she finds superciliousness endearing?
DJ, if you're going to quote some (presumably) long dead, wig wearing British dude named Lord Chatham to tell me I'm misusing pedant I think you're already proven the accuracy of my accusation.
KennesawJack| 10.18.12 @ 4:18PM
You mean DRed is really Obamarx posting with a nom de plume?
spike59| 10.18.12 @ 4:56PM
DRed is Purpie's alter-ego
CJW| 10.18.12 @ 5:02PM
Comrade Dred,
So what should the minimum wage be? What is your proposal?
Occam's Tool| 10.19.12 @ 12:42AM
Uh, DRed, that doesn't apply to John II, but John 789. Reading is Fundamental.
John II is a highly educated gentle soul of the type I only wish I had as a prof. Damn. And as for attractive, I've slept with a woman who told Tom Cruise to take a hike. (True Doggone Story, and there you are.)
Paul McGrath| 10.18.12 @ 7:25PM
"So to speak . . ." Oh Mr. John II, you are funny man!
Jack London| 10.18.12 @ 3:18PM
You're talking nonsense John. Not only don't you know what the minimum wage is, you obviously don't have any idea what effect the taxes for welfare and more credits would be if we paid people a couple of dollars an hour, not to mention how local economies are stimulated as more people spend a slightly higher income, not to mention gross exploitation.
And you make the case by mentioning The Grapes in this context - a finer call for decent wages and working conditions was never made.
Grzmlyk| 10.18.12 @ 3:36PM
Nor a more economically vapid one. One thing is clear - you don't work in the private sector, and you've never met a payroll.
But hey, it's SOOO easy to insist that other people fork over their money, isn't it - whether they can afford it or not.
Explain again to me how that confers virtue on you?
CJW| 10.18.12 @ 3:46PM
Comrade Jack
You have not anwered a simple question. What do you propose about the minimum wage law?
John II| 10.18.12 @ 4:05PM
"And you make the case by mentioning The Grapes in this context - a finer call for decent wages and working conditions was never made."
Actually, I didn't even try to make a case. I suggested that you look into the history and consequences of minimum wage legislation, and then suggested that you wouldn't do so.
The movie recollection, of course, has to do with a much larger issue that subsumes liberal vacuity about many smaller issues. I WAS making a case there, and it went over your head.
Serves me right. I should be grading papers now.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 4:00PM
Indeed, John.
Go back and look at what FDR's Minimum Wage did to the Blacks, in this Country.
It destroyed them, as well as a huge Number of Uneducated Whites.
Hence the phrase - "Good Work, if you can get it".
Grzmlyk| 10.18.12 @ 3:33PM
Why not make it $50 an hour? Heck, why not $100 an hour? We all know that every business owner - even the guy who just opened a pizza joint - is sitting on piles of cash.
The level of your ignorance is equaled only by the size of your moral vanity.
Grzmlyk| 10.18.12 @ 3:39PM
Why do you think there are fewer grocery clerks out there today and more automated check-out stations?
Hint: Minimum wage. Those jobs no longer exist.
But I guess you'd rather those jobs not exist than exist at what you consider is inferior wages.
And the percentage of people working for minimum wage that are actually supporting families is miniscule - it's mostly job market entrants - teens - or retired folks.
And if they are earning only $15,000 a year, there are federal programs, like EBT, that are easily worth $30k a year.
In order to flatter your own sense of moral superiority, you people utterly ignore the causal universe.
Alej| 10.18.12 @ 4:43PM
"...virtually all of my peers, colleagues and tenuous friends are liberals. In fact, I can say absolutely all of them are."
"Show me a man's friends and I will tell you about that man."
Kilgore Trout| 10.18.12 @ 12:45PM
C. Mitt should ask: Mr. Presbo, what have you done TODAY, YESTERDAY, THIS WEEK to help lower the price of gas. Name us ONE THING!
SpiderMike| 10.18.12 @ 1:51PM
The great thing about Tet is that it bought the elusive National Liberation Front (Viet Cong) out into the open where they could be killed in the tens of thousands. If Candy Crowley becomes the liberal media's General Giap, bless her heart. It is a shame that we can but metaphorically "kill" them.
RAM| 10.18.12 @ 3:18PM
Soon after this last debate, I flipped on my radio to an ABC affiliate. The national ABC newspeople were crowing about this flap as being the "turning point" of the debate. Just maybe, the network folks knew in advance about the Obama-Crowley collusion on Libya and preplanned their post-debate emphasis on it. The irony is that it could become a turning point for more fair-minded independents to favor Romney.
Seek| 10.18.12 @ 4:03PM
It preposterous to attribute any real power to a debate moderator. No moderator can "elect" this or that canddiate. Televised debates are meant for the undecided anyway -- true believers don't need to be convinced by the time October rolls around. And their main purpose seems less a forum to discuss issues than an opportunity to create tripwire for candidates to commit a "gotcha" gaffe.
AmericanCynic| 10.18.12 @ 4:18PM
"The tipping point for the liberal media.
A tipping point that makes Mitt Romney the 45th President of the United States."
It'a tipping point for the refusal to admit that it's not the president's job to word things the way that you would prefer.
Nobody watching that Rose Garden speech objectively walks away thinking the president failed to condemn a terrorist attack.
This semantic argument, you righty-too-tighties are having is a lifeline to your own cognitive dissonance.
This is just another example of the "No Apology" crowd doubling down because they ALWAYS refuse to admit a weakness, defeat or being wrong.
There's no way (insert GOP candidate's name here) could have lost the debate or said something wrong, rude or misguided, because (Moderator, forum, weather, vast liberal conspiracy, George Soros) was fighting for the other side.
I'm a former US Marine and grew up playing organized sports, back then we called this unwillingness to admit defeat "Unsportsmanlike conduct."
It's that very behavior that is really dividing America!
John II| 10.18.12 @ 4:38PM
"This is just another example of the 'No Apology' crowd doubling down because they ALWAYS refuse to admit a weakness, defeat or being wrong."
Projecting again, are we Cynnie?
By the way, real Marines don't boast about being former Marines. Semper Fi, baby.
spike59| 10.18.12 @ 4:55PM
'fomer Marine'...uh-huh...and former Formula One champion, former Miss America finalist, former Nobel Prize winner...any other BS claims in your sack????
AmericanCynic| 10.18.12 @ 5:13PM
You guys are just proving my point.
Thanks!
Semper Fi
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 5:19PM
Remember.
Semper Fi doesn't mean you're not a Dick.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 5:20PM
And, John II is absolutely right.
There are no such things as Former Marines.
AmericanCynic| 10.18.12 @ 5:46PM
Incorrect, there are no such things as "Ex-Marines." "Former Marine" is used to differentiate between people like me and the heroes who are currently serving and laying down their lives.
John II, TLP and spike59; did you serve this great nation of ours or you just chicken-hawks?
LOL!
John II| 10.18.12 @ 6:09PM
Well--yeah. I served. So what?
John II| 10.18.12 @ 6:13PM
I was only in the Army, though. But I met a lot of Marines. And not one of them was a braying jackass.
AmericanCynic| 10.18.12 @ 6:14PM
Thank you, John.
:)
John II| 10.18.12 @ 6:15PM
No cynics either.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 7:04PM
And, I served as well.
So Fck You.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 7:10PM
And, John II.
You didn't "only" serve in the Army.
You Served In The Army.
The Marines are no more Special than the Rest of Us.
I served in the Air Force, and my Base was a First Strike Target, during the Cold War.
And, as far as I'm concerned?
My job was just as Important as some Dumbass "Former Marine's".
Semper Fi my ass.
My Air Force Planes, dropping two Nukes over Japan, saved a helluva lot of Marine's lives, last I looked.
TLP| 10.18.12 @ 7:15PM
Frankly, I'm sick and tired of some of these Jar Heads thinking that they won the Wars, all by themselves.
Without the Air Force having Total Air Superiority in every War since WWII, they would've been Cut To Ribbons.
Period.
Over and Out.
John II| 10.18.12 @ 11:25PM
"You didn't 'only' serve in the Army.
You Served In The Army."
Point taken, Timmy. On the other hand, I was just a Vietnam era (late 1960s) draftee out of graduate school. There was a WAC captain assigned to one of the units I was attached to during my measly two years of active duty. She was a hugely competent training specialist, and gifted with a very dry sense of humor.
From her I learned something about the Army's sense of self-irony. She joked about women in the military by saying that the Navy got all the brains, the Air Force got all the beauty, and the Army got what was left.
Again, it was the Vietnam era, and the Army was the cannon fodder, including the repository of almost all the unwilling (and often unruly) draftees. [More below . . .]
John II| 10.18.12 @ 11:26PM
Yet for me, it was a good experience. The Army doled out fast rank in those days (I was up to Spec 5 within 14 months of being drafted, a rank that, even in those days, would take an Air Force enlistee five or six years to achieve). And getting drafted set off an easily traceable train of events that eventually netted me a great marriage and a house full of beautiful kids.
The experience of being surrounded by normal human beings for two whole years also gave me a distinctive perspective on the rarefied atmosphere of academe when I returned to graduate school. It's worth pointing out too that, today, the ROTC kids in the college where I teach are consistently among my best students.
So I meant no disregard for the Army. The "only" applies more to me than to that particular branch of the armed services. I learned to imitate the Army's self-irony
AmericanCynic| 10.19.12 @ 2:52PM
You're "Air Force planes, huh?"
Wow, boast much?
BTW, I believe you mean the U.S. Army Air Corps, Mr. "Military Historian."
LOL@TLP!
AmericanCynic| 10.19.12 @ 3:01PM
Correction: Your "Air Force planes," huh?
I figured I better correct myself for 2 reasons:
1) I'm not part of the "NO APOLOGY" crowd, I believe there is strength in pointing out our own mistakes and...
2) As usual, you would use the correction to over-shadow the point I was making.
Have a great weekend you Righty-Too-Tighties of the AmSpec!
Occam's Tool| 10.19.12 @ 12:44AM
Wrong. Lee Harvey Oswald is an Ex-Marine. I spent a lot of time dealing with PTSD'ed retired Marines in my training at the VA.
spike59| 10.19.12 @ 6:09AM
John Murtha was also an ex-Marine, and an embarassment to the Corps AND the nation
spike59| 10.19.12 @ 6:08AM
yes, as a matter of fact, i DID serve...in my family, it's considered an important thing; 3 of 6 siblings served in my immediate family, my nephew just finished serving in Afghanistan-after serving in Libya-my father, a half-dozen cousins, all of my uncles on both sides of the family, both grandparents, family members going back to the Revolutionary War...and????
AmericanCynic| 10.19.12 @ 2:45PM
Wow, look at you guys! I leave for half a day and the next thing I know you guys start attacking the U.S. Marine Corps! Hate our troops much? LOL!
I guess my original comment got under your skin, huh?
A lot of boasting seems to be going on too, which is weird because you accused me of "boasting" for simply mentioning my service. Like Pres. Clinton said "It takes a lot of brass..."
See ya later, smug-ass haters!
spike59| 10.19.12 @ 3:06PM
who's attacking the Marines?????? i'm only mentioning 3 individuals: Oswald, the scumbag Leftist punk who whacked JFK; Murtha, the scumbag Leftist punk who libeled ACTUAL Marines with baseless and inflammatory accusations, and YOU, another scumbag Leftist punk. who slavishly supports the worst President (including dumbass Dhimmi Carter) of all time..identifying ANY of you as 'Marines', whether 'ex-' or 'former', is an insult to the Corps
sotto voce| 10.19.12 @ 12:38PM
You can misinterpret Obama's Rose Garden statements any way you like, but that doesn't change the fact that AFTER the Rose Garden statements his own Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice denied publicly five times that Benghazi was a terrorist attack, as did his mouthpiece Jay Carney. It's hard to believe they would have issued those denials if their boss hadn't approved them.
spike59| 10.19.12 @ 3:08PM
EXACTLY-when Jay chirps, he chirps as the VOICE of the POS POTUS; and when Rice burps, it is as the voice of Shrillary AND the POS POTUS
txazdreamgirl| 10.18.12 @ 6:32PM
Have I just missed it, or has no one on the planet asked how it is that Crowley happened to have a copy of the "Rose Garden Speech" handy during the debate? This was another liberal set up that blew up in their faces.
TeriinNorCal| 10.18.12 @ 8:53PM
Thank you for bringing this up, TLP! Rush Limbaugh is the only other person I've heard express outrage not only over Crowley's interjection into the argument, but over the fact that she just happened to have a transcript of the Rose Garden speech and Obama just happened to know that. I don't know much about debate protocol, but I assume having the moderator act as a secretary for either speaker is against the rules. Is it okay to break the rules?
sotto voce| 10.19.12 @ 12:05PM
I expect Bob Schieffer to try and shape Monday's debate just as Crowley did. Schieffer is no Jim Lehrer. He doesn't even attempt to be impartial. I remember watching him interview Reince Priebus. Priebus mentioned Obama's failed energy policies, pointing out that even his Energy Secretary Steven Chu had called for U.S. gasoline prices to equal Europe's. Schieffer shot back at Priebus, demanding "when did he say that?". Is Schieffer really that clueless or willfully blind and deaf? It's a mystery why the RNC allows the CPD to pack the debates with moderators who are so blatantly biased. There has to be a better way.
Nixonfan| 10.19.12 @ 10:24PM
I think the most interesting angle about the Beghazi coverup is the role and position of AmbassadorSusan Rice, who does not report to Hillary Clinton but instead to Valerie Jarrett. She took her talking points from Valerie and manfully stuck with them. Hillary was a complete fool to take State without having the UN ambassador as a direct report. I can't believe that she could have been that stupid.
Gueppebarre| 10.19.12 @ 11:00PM
Well, I'm aghast - NOT!
Obama's spin team is angling on blaming Candy for their loss, no doubt, and when Obama loses and that little morsel comes over Axelrod's greasy lips, you'll have to put this imbecilic harpy on suicide watch!!
WaffenSS| 10.20.12 @ 8:13AM
Fat Pig. The state of America. Out of shape and ugly. Crowley looks EXACTLY like Miss Piggy. Can anyone share the humour of rooting that thing?
Vance P. Frickey| 10.20.12 @ 11:59PM
You're just giving the Left ammunition to complain about how chauvinistic and shallow our attitude toward Crowley and her pals is. CNN's harem of photogenic Obama cheerleaders aren't any better than Crowley.
The problem isn't Crowley's appearance, it's her apparent ignorance of the meaning of the word "objectivity," and how prevalent her attitude is among mainstream journalists of both sexes.
The Press in this country has decided to pick the winner of this election. That's the truly nauseating, outrageous thing.
trainman55| 10.20.12 @ 1:52PM
Re: "Crowley's posture on Tuesday night was that of a pro-Obama participant, not the impartial moderator that voters expect."
Anyone who "expects" an impartial moderator at any presidential debate is a fool. In every debate since their inception with Kennedy vs. Nixon there has always been liberal bias on the part of the moderators.
Vance P. Frickey| 10.21.12 @ 12:03AM
Trainman55: We ALL ought to expect objectivity from our journalists, every time they report to us.
That prostitution occurs is not an endorsement of the practice, or reason for us to expect that no one should commit it.
When the mainstream press sells itself to the Left, it's disgraceful each and every time, and we should never expect it, or seek to excuse it because it happens so often. Societies DO reform.
trainman55| 10.20.12 @ 2:05PM
As a relevant aside, it would be quite apparent to anyone, with an IQ at least equal to room temperature, that Ms. (short for miserable) Crowley is well versed in the art of deception. Witness the fact that almost all of her appearances on TV are taken of her turned to the side, instead of full frame, probably to disguise her exceptionally wide body! Her journalistic "integrity" should be equally suspect.
Vance P. Frickey| 10.20.12 @ 11:44PM
With respect, Mr. Lord, the Democrats aren't called "The Party of 'So What'?" for nothing.
Candy Crowley committed each and every one of her outrages against objective journalism because she knows she will have cover from other journalists.
C.S. Lewis knew about this as far back as 1943, when, in That Hideous Strength, he had King Arthur's successor as Pendragon explain journalism to the risen Merlinus Ambrosius:
"There is an engine called the Press, by which the people are deceived; we should die without ever having been heard of."
If Barack Hussein Obama decides (or has already decided) to follow the slippery slope all the way from authorizing union violence at "town hall meetings" to actual murders, the dead will disappear as surely as though they never lived.
Several generations of Americans grew up hearing about a courageous press instrumental in exposing Watergate. The Obama administration is not just an echo, but an amplification of every abuse committed by Nixon and the Plumbers, but when journalists come forth to expose these abuses, they're marginalized by "the mainstream press."
Imagine Woodward and Bernstein reporting Mark Felt ("Deep Throat") to the Nixon administration as a whistle-blower. It happens today to anyone foolish enough to trust "mainstream journalists" with news about weapons traded to drug gangs, or demands by the White House that the Border Patrol use "discretion" to allow illegal immigration.
carly| 10.21.12 @ 1:06AM
In no way is that commie, traitorous cow a nice soul.
Ralph Novy| 10.23.12 @ 6:38AM
She got it wrong.
No.
She interfered.
No.
She took a side.
No.
Candy Crowley may finally have done something else as well: so visibly tipping the scales of media bias that the end result makes Mitt Romney the next president.
No.
Four strikes and you're out, clown.
How does anyone who takes themself seriously make such ridiculous assertions?
Answer: fevered delusion; desperate need for self-vindication, etc.
Pathetic.