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By on 10.17.12 @ 6:11AM

Crowley sparks controversy as presidential debate moderator.

If Tuesday night’s presidential debate proved nothing else, it demonstrated one thing: CNN’s Candy Crowley is definitely not an “uncommitted voter.” The moderator’s handling of the town-hall debate at Hofstra University was heavy-handed and one-sided throughout, not merely giving more time to President Obama, but repeatedly cutting off Mitt Romney when the Republican attempted to counter accusations from the president.

At one point, after Obama had repeated his campaign accusation that Romney “said we should let Detroit go bankrupt,” Romney devoted part of his next reponse to rebutting the mischaracterization: “My plan was to have [auto companies] go through bankruptcy like 7-Eleven did and Macy’s and Continental Airlines and come out stronger. And I know he keeps saying, you want to take Detroit bankrupt. Well, the president took Detroit bankrupt. You took General Motors bankrupt. You took Chrysler bankrupt. So when you say that I wanted to take the auto industry bankrupt, you actually did.” The process of bankruptcy was necessary, Romney said, “to get those companies back on their feet, so they could start hiring more people. That was precisely what I recommended and ultimately what happened.”

Then Crowley said, “Let me give the president a chance,” providing Obama an opportunity to reiterate and expand his attacks on Romney. “Candy, what Governor Romney said just isn’t true,” the president began, claiming that if Romney’s advice had been followed “we would have lost a million jobs,” and ridiculing the Republican’s economic proposals: “Governor Romney doesn’t have a five-point plan. He has a one-point plan. And that plan is to make sure that folks at the top play by a different set of rules. That’s been his philosophy in the private sector, that’s been his philosophy as governor, that’s been his philosophy as a presidential candidate.”

Obama had just called Romney a liar, and Romney was eager to answer, but Crowley intervened: “Governor Romney — there’ll be plenty of chances here to go on… you certainly will have lots of time here coming up.” Preventing Romney from immediately replying to Obama’s charges, Crowley then went to the next town-hall questioner, who asked about energy policy.

This was just one of Crowley’s interventions that seemed intended to benefit Obama, but she saved her worst for last when, as Matthew Sheffield of Newsbusters said, Crowley “disgraced herself … showing why many Americans were rightfully suspicious of her ability to moderate a presidential debate fairly.” A man named Kerry Ladka had asked a very specific question about the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya: “Who was it that denied enhanced security and why?” Obama dodged the question, not even pretending to try to answer Ladka. When Romney had his turn, he criticized the president for attending a Las Vegas fundraiser the day after the Libyan attack and questioned the administration’s shifting explanations of what happened at Benghazi.”It was very clear this was not a demonstration,” Romney said. “This was an attack by terrorists.”

Obama was given a chance to reply and did so indignantly: “The day after the attack, governor, I stood in the Rose Garden and I told the American people in the world that we are going to find out exactly what happened. That this was an act of terror and I also said that we’re going to hunt down those who committed this crime.… And the suggestion that anybody in my team, whether the Secretary of State, our U.N. Ambassador, anybody on my team would play politics or mislead when we’ve lost four of our own, governor, is offensive.” Romney immediately questioned that: “You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack, it was an act of terror? … I want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.”

Now Crowley intervened: “He did call it an act of terror. It did as well take — it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. You are correct about that.”

Romney had actually mishandled the issue, but Crowley’s intervention spawned a controversy of its own that is likely to dominate news coverage of the debate for the next couple of days. The full text of the President Obama’s Rose Garden speech shows that he included in his remarks a statement apparently referring to the obscure YouTube video that the administration wrongly suggested had inspired the Libyan attack: “We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.” The president then made reference to the 9/11 attacks of 2001 before saying, “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.”

So, the phrase “acts of terror” did indeed occur in the president’s speech on Sept. 12, but it wasn’t clear whether he meant this to apply to the previous day’s Benghazi assault, which officials in his administration were then describing as a spontaneous demonstration against the YouTube video. And, as Romney pointed out during the debate, Obama himself mentioned the YouTube video six times during his Sept. 25 speech to the United Nations, even though it was already becoming clear by then that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the video.

In the immediate aftermath of Tuesday night’s debate, the liberals on MSNBC gave enthusiastic praise to both Obama’s performance and Crowley’s handling of the debate. Rachel Maddow said the president had given the best debate showing of his entire political career, Ed Schultz said Obama was “stellar” and Chris Matthews was so ecstatic that, as I said on Twitter, he was “wetting his pants in joy, gibbering like a meth freak on laughing gas.” Obama’s feisty performance had redeemed him in the eyes of Democrat partisans who had been so profoundly discouraged by his anemic appearance in the first debate. (See “Mitt’s Biggest Turnaround Yet,” Oct. 4.) A CNN poll found that viewers scored the debate a narrow win for Obama, by a 46-39 margin, while a CBS poll of “uncommitted voters” that found Obama also won (37-33) in the overall debate also found that on the key issue of the economy, Romney won by nearly a 2-to-1 margin.

Yet Crowley’s intervention on the Libya question, which seemed an effort to help Obama, may have actually worsened the president’s larger problem. Crowley herself admitted in a CNN post-debate interview that Romney “was right in the main” in his criticism of Obama’s handling of the Benghazi attack. Meanwhile, on Fox News, Charles Krauthammer said that Crowley’s “incorrect and unfair” intervention had “contaminated” the debate. By highlighting the Libyan issue and adding a new element of controversy, however, Crowley inadvertently ensured that the administration’s failure in Benghazi will be the focus of post-debate news coverage — which is unlikely to improve Obama’s re-election chances. The facts of the Libyan debacle simply are not in the president’s favor, and the final debate — Monday at Lynn University in Boca Raton, Florida — is specifically devoted to foreign policy. The venerable Bob Schieffer of CBS News will host that debate, and is unlikely to repeat Crowley’s mistakes, which are sure to be a topic of intense controversy over the next several days.

About the Author

Robert Stacy McCain is co-author (with Lynn Vincent) of Donkey Cons: Sex, Crime, and Corruption in the Democratic Party (Nelson Current). He blogs at The Other McCain.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (279) |

drudge ette obama| 10.17.12 @ 6:28AM

Crowley needs a comb and a diet. I was flabbergasted to see how unkempt she looked. She must be channeling Hillary in the hair dept.

Romney won - he was enthusiastic and positive - not perfect - but there is so little time and so much pressure. Obama was aggressive but without much susbstance. He looked mad and humorless.

No more Candy Crowley, please. Enough of her and her whalishness.

drudge ette obama| 10.17.12 @ 6:32AM

I can't wait for the next debate. These things should last much longer. Crowley lost her reputation as a moderator last night when she blustered about on the Libya terror attack issue - she was in over her head. Imagine telling Romney to go sit down. What a jerk she was at times.

I wonder in retrospect whether anyone will really enjoy seeing Obama's performance, especially his whining about the time clock and his being beaten back to his corner by Roomney a couple of time.

C. Vernon Crisler | 10.17.12 @ 11:57AM

That idiot Crowley is still trying to defend her actions. Somehow this reminds me of Dan Rather and his clownish refusal to grant that the key document he used was faked.

DTOM| 10.17.12 @ 4:55PM

Am I the only conservative thrilled with Candy's asinine performance?

If Mitt Romney cannot handle the idiotic Candy Crowley's odd, incorrect interference while keeping our littlest President mentally tied in knots and nots, how will he do when facing Hu Jianto or Vladimir Putin across the table.

I think America got to see realtime, fast-on-his-feet Ronald Reagan style leadership. Romney and Ryan both had slow motion, "I paid for this microphone" moments that lasted roughly ninety minutes.

I am glad that Crowley and Radditz so clearly sided with our opponents and both of our candidates handled them gracefully and graciously.

I say HOORAY for vapid partisan moderators! They gave our candidates the opportunity to show their real character in obviously difficult and contrary circumstances. And America saw it plain as day!

Thanks a million, you stupid Democrats!

Don't Tread On Me!!!

Don't Tread On Me

Doctor Right| 10.17.12 @ 12:14PM

Crowley's "reputation" is that of a an obnoxious, bloated, hyper-partisan, democrat hack and let-wing media shill.

She didn't damage her reputation; she validated it.

Time to stop worrying about what the idiots in the leftwing media say and think - they are as dumb as rocks, and have the imagination of Wonder Bread.

For my part, I just wish the GOP candidates would say "No. Not doing a debate with Candy Crowley unless you agree to one with Rush Limbaugh."

Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 10.17.12 @ 4:21PM

It looks as if Romney will be elected, which is half-okay because Ryan is an honest guy.
But Romney is a blatant opportunist.

Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 10.17.12 @ 5:14PM

"As a pro-life female Republican voter, I'm not voting with my vagina,"

That was Meghan McCain.

Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 10.17.12 @ 5:15PM

... um, she probably meant to say uterus raher than vagina..

spike59| 10.18.12 @ 5:43AM

perhaps the Dems should have been more 'pacific' (to quote Dem "genius" Donna Brazile) when they referenced 'voting' and 'ladyparts'...

Frank Drackman| 10.17.12 @ 8:38AM

Gonna go out on a limb here, but I think Hilary's sort of hot.
Sure she needs a makeover, and some P90X to reduce those Teamster Calves, and she's 60+ but I could see myself tappin that'.
Candy(and how can anyone take seriously, a moderator named "Candy"?)OTOH.
Whats the Over/Under on her BMI?
I'm thinkin 45 easy.

Frank

Alan| 10.17.12 @ 8:41AM

C'mon Frank, an LSD trip could'nt make her look hot!

SUBVET| 10.17.12 @ 9:17AM

Frank.......you know what they say about an overweight women..........something about flour and pick a .................

mike 3/505| 10.17.12 @ 10:39AM

Slap the thigh & ride the wave in---Bruce Willis-The Last Boy Scout.

Tim...That's my entry for Friday.

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 3:13PM

Expect MY Underpants in the Mail, Mr. Winner.

mike 3/505| 10.17.12 @ 5:54PM

I keep telling you I got a sever RAT problem in the basement...I need that DW-S pinup to scare 'em off. Suckers are terrorizing my girlfriend's cat.

Warrior| 10.17.12 @ 11:52AM

Any port will do in a storm. However, she is the dictionary definition of a slumpbuster.

PolishKnight| 10.17.12 @ 12:50PM

Thanks Warrior. I looked up slumpbuster in dictionary.com and couldn't find it. However, the urban dictionary definition worked. Thanks for the laugh. I'm getting old. I had no idea what this meant:

http://www.urbandictionary.com.....lumpbuster

irish19| 10.17.12 @ 1:04PM

Enough. You guys are scaring me now.

Eagle Creek| 10.17.12 @ 1:29PM

If it's got a hole it's a lifesaver...

KyMouse| 10.17.12 @ 3:18PM

Nice. If you had a young daughter, would you want some guy to say that about her?

DTOM| 10.17.12 @ 4:57PM

Ky,

Doncha know if you have a son, you have one little wienie to worry about, if you have a daughter, there are millions of little wienies to worry about!!!

HeeHaw

DTOM

RCV| 10.17.12 @ 10:56PM

Don't waste your breath on this crowd. It's like a roomful of seventh grade boys.

Drunken Sailor| 10.17.12 @ 2:00PM

We used to call it going HWH (Humpback Whale hunting).

Frank Drackman| 10.17.12 @ 2:12PM

Call me Ishmael...

Drunken Sailor| 10.17.12 @ 2:40PM

Thank God, for a minute I thought you were going to make a "White Whale and wooden leg" reference.

Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 10.17.12 @ 4:58PM

"Frank.......you know what they say about an overweight women..........something about flour and pick a ................."

Wet spot?
How 'bout put a flag over her face and ...

Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 10.17.12 @ 4:23PM

'but I could see myself tappin that"

Be faithful to your wife, conservative boy:
do as we ,don't do as we do.

Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 10.17.12 @ 4:24PM

do as we SAY.

spike59| 10.18.12 @ 5:45AM

'do as we say, don't do as we do'

thanks for summing up the Democrat philosophy so succinctly

Wendy| 10.20.12 @ 7:52AM

I volunteered at the mail room in the White House during the first Clinton regime. At orientation, the volunteers were instructed NEVER discuss the First Lady's legs.....

Trinacria| 10.17.12 @ 10:14AM

Ole Candy represents the 99% (body fat).

KyMouse| 10.17.12 @ 2:45PM

Good grief. If Crowley had been unbiased, or biased in favor of Mitt, would you all still be making jokes about her weight? "Sow," "whale," "massive brick wall"...

Isn't it enough to go after her unfairness, and leave her appearance out of it?

If she had been biased toward Mitt, the Left would be as merciless about her weight as you all are.

Skippy| 10.17.12 @ 3:22PM

Agreed.
Don't be a dick.
That's Biden's job.

Frekki| 10.17.12 @ 3:32PM

The left hung Sarah in effigy, let us have our fun.

Trinacria| 10.17.12 @ 11:36PM

Fat is fat; call 'em like I see 'em. If she had been biased in favor of Mitt, I'd still call her a massively overweight, unkempt, digesting walrus...though I confess I'd be more inclined to like her.

MikeBee| 10.17.12 @ 10:36AM

DEO,
You're right about Candy. Candy is further proof that one of Rush's Undeniable Facts of Life is true, and it goes something like this: Feminism was created to give unattractive women access to the mainstream of life.

KyMouse| 10.17.12 @ 2:50PM

I once worked with an elderly woman who had been a card-carrying Communist during her college days (at Wellesley) in the Thirties.

She told me that she'd had an older sister who was far prettier than she -- and that the Communist Party made her feel that she was worth something even though she wasn't pretty.

(In her later years, she became an ardent anti-Communist whose hero was Ollie North. I'll bet her former Wellesley classmates would have hated that!)

PolishKnight| 10.17.12 @ 3:19PM

I had older woman relatives who weren't "beauties" by any means but they gained "access to the mainstream of life" by being hardworking both in terms of their daily activities and finding a mate. One of them had a sister who dumped a boyfriend and she thought that the boyfriend was a good choice (as it turned out, history would prove her right) and she expressed an interest in him and married him later.

When I left the country and traveled in Europe (East, West, Central AND North!!!), it was amazing to me how _friendly_ women there were compared to the USA. They were far less easily offended than here and also more honest and adult in how they viewed relationships. Europeans have a theory as to why American women seemed to have an ambivalent relationship with men that later became feminism: They think that during frontier times, there was a shortage of women and combined with chivalrous attitudes from Britain and puritanism, it resulted in a matriarchy.

Occam's Tool| 10.17.12 @ 12:42PM

Hopefully, Schieffer will remember that he was once upon a time a Horned Frog, and that "The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You."

(The Texas Christian University Highly Rated Journo school is named in honor of its most famous alum, Schieffer.)

cuban pete| 10.17.12 @ 2:03PM

TCU!
Also the alma mater of 1950's football great Jim Swink. He was on the cover of Street & Smith's college football magazine. I believe he bypassed the NFL to become a doctor such as yourself

Butch| 10.17.12 @ 5:25PM

You aree correct, sir. Born in Sacul, TX (Lucas spelled backward, not to be confused with Reklaw, TX) and raised in Rusk. The "Rusk Raider" (or "Rambler") bypassed pro football to go to med school. I have his autograph (gotten by my daughter at a TCU athletic event), along with that of Bob Lilly, Sammy Baugh, LaDamien Tomlinson (sp?), and, best of all, Dan Jenkins on my original (and much worn) copy of "Semi-Tough." I had it memorized. He wrote "Butch, I lied. It wasn't me. Dan Jenkins."

cuban pete| 10.18.12 @ 4:32PM

Thanks Butch.
Billy Clyde Puckett, the humminest sumbitch(white) ever to carry a football.

KyMouse| 10.17.12 @ 2:32PM

I am no fan of Candy Crowley's, but I don't object to television having women who aren't blonde twigs. I've had enough of women being held to a far higher standard of "good looks" than men. It's easy to make fun of a fat woman, but I care far more about her bias than about her bulk.

Warrior| 10.17.12 @ 4:31PM

We make fun of Biden because he is an idiot. We make fun of Bill Clinton because he is an unrepentant serial rapist. We make fun of Obama because he has ears that Dumbo would be proud of. Weiner and his weiner, Cheney and his hunting prowess, Pelosi and botox, McConnell every time he makes that Alfred E. Newman face, Boehner when cries like a little girl. If she wants to be on camera (a very wide angle camera at that), then she runs the risk of ridicule. Tell her to pull up her big girl undies...I mean parachute.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.17.12 @ 7:33PM

I agree that the behavior of many of us who regularly post here falls somewhat below the standards that we hold ourselves to as conservatives. It would be better to focus on the poor quality of Candy Crowley's performance of her moderator duties, rather bash her for personal characteristics such as excessive weight and slovenliness.

But as Kenneth Mars once uttered in "Young Frankenstein", as he portrayed the one armed Transylvanian police chief (who lost his arm to the original beast) as he confronted the torch and pitchfork bearing mob ready to go after Frederick Franckenstien after his beast ran amok:

" A riot is an ugly thing........ and I think its time we had one!"

Please pardon me while I return to the vengeful throng.

ElGordo| 10.18.12 @ 12:15AM

The R.N.C. should sue C.N.N. for Breach of Contract

drudge ette obama| 10.17.12 @ 6:41AM

Obama keeps his money with Northern Trust and if my personal experience is any measure of how Northern Trust invests clients money, there are definitely foreign investments in many forms, including China, in Obama's book earnings. Also, given the number of Obama books left at Borders when it went out of business, who the hell actually purchased Obama's dull vanity tales?

Why are we condemning success? Really, why is that the case. And why are reporters cheering attacks on successful people? Sad.

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 6:54AM

I read on Drudge, yesterday, that Honey Boo Boo was endorsing Obama.

Last night, I SAW HER endorse him.

When are we gonna Grow a Pair of Fckng Balls?

When are we gonna DEMAND one of ours as a Moderator?

Anyone who thought that this Leftwing Fat Whore was gonna be FAIR, probably thinks that Lucy will let Charlie Brown kick the Football next time.

If I was in charge over at the GOP? I would have my people Boycott every one of these MFing Shows. No More Meet The Press. No More George Stuffitupmyass. No More of that Old Fool on CBS. No more CNN.

It's not even a case of 'Fool Me Twice'. It's 'Fool Me Everyfckngtime'!

The Town Halls are Stupid Enough. But to have one with this Jive Ass Street Hustler AND have it Moderated by this Stupid B*tch who would Cut off her Right Hand if it meant she could shove her Left Hand down Black Jesus' Pants, is the height of Stupidity.

This happens everytime, with these people?

When do we learn?

Hellooooooooooo.

Mars the Avenger| 10.17.12 @ 7:25AM

I agree. I can't for the life of me understand why the "Stupid Party," aka, the Republicans, always agree to this bullshit, knowing the cards are always stacked against them. Is it truly the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different outcome?

Stormzeye| 10.17.12 @ 8:44AM

I don't think there's too much "stupid" about Romney's campaign. I prefer to think that they agreed to the All-Moonbat lineup of "moderators" so that Romney would look like the victim of unfairness. Which he has. You know that a Fox moderator would be accused of being racist if Obozo was not shown great deference.

irish19| 10.17.12 @ 1:07PM

Good point. In any case, Romney absolutely had to get out in front of the American people to show them who he really was. He has done that with the result that zero is sliding in the polls.

Mars the Avenger| 10.17.12 @ 1:54PM

Yes, I do agree. Romney has in fact done a bang up job showing what an empty suit Zero really is. Despite having the cards stacked against the R/R ticket, both have shown what they really are and have punctured the caricatures created by the Statist Party.

R Martin| 10.17.12 @ 7:28AM

As bad as Crowley was, the worst is yet to come. Bob Schieffer!

ncatty| 10.17.12 @ 3:20PM

But McCain says he is"venerable". Huh?

spike59| 10.18.12 @ 5:46AM

"venerable" means, roughly, "owes Jesus lunch money"

mike 3/505| 10.17.12 @ 8:15AM

Tim,

You are not your usual pithy, cogent and specific self this morning. Please clarify for me....What did you think of Ms Crowley's performance as moderator?

Regards,

Mike

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 9:01AM

Isn't it a little Early for you to be drunk?

Sir.

Quartermaster| 10.17.12 @ 9:42AM

Sarcasm, evidently, goes right over your head, TLP.

mike 3/505| 10.17.12 @ 10:42AM

QM....Tim and I are friends. If'n he hadn't responded in that manner...I woulda thunk he was mad at me.

Regards,

Mike

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 1:08PM

I got it QM.

Tough Crowd.

mike 3/505| 10.17.12 @ 10:43AM

It's after 1700 in the AOR...but there is that BS called G.O. #1

Drunken Sailor| 10.17.12 @ 2:02PM

Would be nice if your relief brought you a cold one.

mike 3/505| 10.17.12 @ 6:03PM

Actually he did....back in '03 as we wended our way back down from Baghdad. It was a "fake" Budweiser...but I swear it was the BEST cold beer I ever had.

irish19| 10.17.12 @ 1:08PM

It's after 5:00 somewhere.

2Anglico| 10.17.12 @ 8:47AM

Yeah, exactly what TLP says, with a few more MFers!

SUBVET| 10.17.12 @ 9:23AM

10-4 Tim..................running "hot straight and normal" as usual.

The looks I get when I wear the "water boarding" shirt..............priceless.....thanks a ton.

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 3:16PM

I'm glad for you.

I was afraid you couldn't stuff yourself into a Large.

scotchieguy| 10.17.12 @ 10:37AM

What amazed me about the debate was not the candidates or Candy but the phony crowd. Who were these people? Everyone looked fake, like they were plants. It was a circus. You are right, they should boycott the charade. What is wrong with having Brit Hume or Chris Wallace moderate the thing?

loulou| 10.17.12 @ 10:51AM

I hate to criticize a persons appearance but where was Crowley's neck? Her neck was nowhere to be seen. She looked like a face-lifted head sitting on top of a massive brick wall.

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 1:10PM

Her neck was backstage, eating a Large Pizza, Extra Everything.

KyMouse| 10.17.12 @ 3:30PM

How many of these fat jokes would you all be making if she had been unbiased or favoring Mitt?

Okay, she has a weakness for food. I've never met anybody who doesn't have some kind of weakness; it's just that a food one is very visible.

What weakness of YOURS would you want people to ridicule?

I have a cousin who is fat. I know how people's rude comments hurt her.

Yes, she should lose the weight. I should get rid of every single one of my bad habits, too.

Shouldn't we criticize what people say and do instead of how they look?

Frekki| 10.17.12 @ 3:36PM

Oh, shut the hell up. Go eat a pizza or something.

Drunken Sailor| 10.17.12 @ 4:04PM

KY Mouse,
Love to read your comments and I get what your saying but I think your overreacting slightly. After some of the names the left calls people on the right what Candy recieved on this site is miniscule. We each have our faults but most of us learn to live with or change them.

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 5:04PM

He's right, Mouse.

Would you feel better if we called her A LIBERAL SLUT?

How about: A C*NT?

A B*TCH?

But, maybe you're right.

Maybe my calling her a Fat Whore, was a little over the top.

Just for you, I apologize to all of the Fat Whores out there, for lumping the Fat Whore - Crowley - in with them.

Better?

RCV| 10.17.12 @ 10:59PM

As I said, KyMouse, you're wasting your breath with these imbecilic little boys.

spike59| 10.18.12 @ 5:48AM

i'm not concerned with any 'weakness for food' she might have; my concern is her weakness for bias...

Eagle Creek| 10.17.12 @ 1:39PM

Brit Hume or Chris Wallace ?? How about once, just once, in the interest of fairness.. . Someone like Michael Savage or Mark Levin... Or James David Manning

Occam's Tool| 10.17.12 @ 12:43PM

It should be Krauthammer or Lowry. Myself, I like the idea of a Psychiatrist moderating two narcissists.

Dodd2| 10.17.12 @ 7:01AM

That fat slob was in the tank for Obama

Slacker| 10.17.12 @ 1:16PM

So what? Romney should have taken control and shut her up. There is no excuse for allowing a old fat woman to take command. I’m no Romney fan but, until last night I assumed he had balls.

Obama looked like even worse –up there being protected by an ugly fat woman.

The whole debate was a display of feminine dominanc, followed by analysis from the gay man (Andrew Sullivan).

Both men were humiliated...and the feminized media pundits can't even recognize so.

Anthony| 10.17.12 @ 7:11AM

The media sow who impersonates a "journalist" performed precisely as many of us at TAS knew she would. It's amazing how so many folks who post at TAS are so precient on these things.While all the talking heads were clueless about Crowley, we all knew what was coming.
The death of "journalism" will be layed at the feet of the so called media who continue to demonstrate their craven devotion to leftism. Their names are all to familiar to us, and history will record their contribution to the death of Amerian journalism.
Yet despite Crowley's tag team intervention for our affirmative action president, he still couldn't hide behind the behemoth, he still was the same empty suit, just a bit less comatose.
Romney will win this election going away. Obama cannot hide, nor run from what he is, a dismal failure who represents a failed ideology. He is the embodiment of the leftism of the '60s.
The Amerian people are awakening from their stupor, and not a moment to soon. Finally, the Woodstock Generation is finished.

Von Mises Jr| 10.17.12 @ 8:01AM

This is why CNN and especially MSLSD have no viewership. ABC, CBS and NBC viewers don’t even realize that there is an election. They are not about to miss reality shows to go vote if they do by chance hear about it.

Rush gets in excess of 25M listeners per week. Drudge got 45,652,423 hits in the last 24 hours. Fox News gets over 10M viewers per day. In New Jersey, there are at least 30 TEA Party groups with email lists from 1K in rural areas to over 5K in larger counties. So 100K people get blasts on critical subjects.AFP is manning phone banks that have already made a couple million completed phone calls.

Fat a$$, (that ain't no eye candy) just lit up all these venues that will get the truth out. CNN and MSLSD allegedly get about 4M viewers each who are the hard core leftist. Rush gets three times CNN/MSLSD combined, and Drudge gets five times as many views per day. They are a dying dinosaur.

CJW| 10.17.12 @ 8:41AM

Obama has to rely on women to bail him out. First Hillary had to shame him to say he is responsible. Raddatz had to babysit Crazy Joe.

Then, Crowley jumped in when Obama was on the ropes about calling the attack an act of terror. Romney looked shocked that Obama lied so blatantly and it was the first time I saw Mitt at a loss for words. But his facial expression was one of shock at the lie.

Crowley knew exactly what happened and she jumped in with her remark to check the transcript. At that point Mitt had to attack Crowley and Obama for lying. But that is the issue dominating all the talk shows now that Obama lied and Crowley helped Obama.

This is the affirmative action debater that needs the "moderator" to jump in when he cannot answer, and the guilty white lefty liberal, like Crowley, who believes Obama is not smart enough so she has to help him.

Von Mises Jr| 10.17.12 @ 9:25AM

Is it not hilarious that Raddatz had to protect Biden, Crisco (she is fat in the can) Crowley had to bailout Obama; while at the same time the NOW/NARAL crowd are claiming discrimination since the liberal men got the two real moderator gigs while they stuck the dopey women with the VP debate and the Town Hall where tubby was supposed to simply stick the microphone in the next person's face?
They are apparently victims of each other???

Pecos Pete| 10.17.12 @ 2:33PM

VMJ: Crisco? Channeling Tim time. Excellent anyway. I'm gonna steal it.

SUBVET| 10.17.12 @ 9:32AM

Mitt is saving the flour girl's "big save" for next week when the topic will be foreign policy.

Von Mises Jr| 10.17.12 @ 11:26AM

I believe you are spot on SUBVET. Last night was a plethora of issues directed by the audience/bovine moderator. Mitt stuck to the issues as a respectable debater would do out of respect for the audience.
He has 90 minutes next week to leave the economy behind and skewer Obama on the internet video lie covering their incompetence, as well as "Fast and Furious." Stay tuned, my friend.

CJW| 10.17.12 @ 11:44AM

It really is a pleasure to watch Mitt dismantle Obama so bad that the "moderators" feel compelled to step in to help Obama. Mitt wants to win and understands economics. Obama has no record and throws a few jabs here and there. It was funnny to see Obama's reaction about the assets in his pension plan.

While it may be fun for us if Mitt attacks the moderator, like Newt, I believe he looks more presidential by sticking to the facts, especially when it is so obvious the moderator is helping Obama.

It is similar to when attorneys object to a question and phrase the objection so that the dim witted answers is told how to answer. Everyone then knows the credibility of the answer.

Maybe Obama's new campaign ad will be "Tell it louder Candy."

Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.17.12 @ 7:37PM

CJW;

You are correct. It was a public acknowledgement of the in-kind donations he has been receiving from so many in the print, network and some cable news outlets for most of his career.

Houdini| 10.17.12 @ 12:36PM

Agreed, Obama walked into a real trap and will pay for it next week. Romney didn't have to win last night, IMHO the only thing that would have hurt Romney would have been if he exposed himself or mooned the Pres.

benny havens| 10.17.12 @ 7:13AM

The real issue with the Crowley interruption was with the question that Romney asked of Obama about the UN Ambassador.

If the President stated in the Rose Garden on the 12th that the attack was a terrorist act, why did his UN Ambassador spew such deception a week later on 5 news talk shows? Crowley cut off the question and once again saved Obama’s bacon.

The next debate will not be any better with Bob Schieffer presiding.

Appleby| 10.17.12 @ 7:15AM

Most people who watched the debate knew what Candy Crowley was going to do. CNN -- of course liberal tilt. Why it is that no conservatives are ever allowed to moderate these events is beyond me, although because the liberals need help in almost every department by rude 'handlers' (making them feel the Sixties are in fact not over, no matter what the calendar says) to get through the standard debate, when they don't have cheerleaders and TelePromTers loaded with other people's words ... I sometimes really long for a spontaneous outburst of USA! USA! USA! at these events, just to break the monotony. But anybody who tuned in expecting Candy Crowley to be Fair and Balanced probably expects that scratch-off lotto ticket to be a winner.

Darin| 10.17.12 @ 7:24AM

Romney needs to learn the Newt Gingrinch lesson. The media has to be called out for their blatant pandering. Romney needs to say he's there to debate President Obama, not the moderator or the media. Call the media out for their dishonesty and bias handling. It's clear to anyone paying attention.

Mars the Avenger| 10.17.12 @ 7:27AM

Yes, Darin, he should have. With all the interruptions, Romney should have stopped and taken this sow to task about how to properly moderate. I don't think Gingrich would have stood for that.

Joellen| 10.17.12 @ 7:55AM

Both Darin and Mars are 100% correct. But dont depend on the media, Gingrich or Romney - we need to do it. Now until election day get out there in your supermarkets, gas stations, anywhere in public and bring up how important this election is. Then give whom ever you are engaging, facts on just what Obama is doing to destroy this country. Ask them to start listening to Rush, Levin, Hannity, Prager, watch FOX News and read this site, the American Thinker, Michele Malkin, Breitbart, ChurchMilitant.TV and any other "HONEST" news site you can think of. Be the warriors folks - with the sole intent of winning this country back for future posterity.

MikeBee| 10.17.12 @ 10:57AM

Mars,
What Romney should have done is, the next time Candy interrupted him, walk over to her desk, set his mike down in front of her, after saying, "Did you want to debate the President? Go ahead." When she declined, he could pick up the mike again, and simply say, with humor, "Perhaps we could keep the interruptions to a minimum, if I am within my time limit?"

BD57| 10.17.12 @ 7:55AM

Sad to say, if he'd done that, all everyone would be talking about today was how Romney blasted the moderator.

That would make both "bases" happy - but there'd be people in the middle who'd think he was being disrespectful. I'm sorry - it angers me - but that's how it would play out.

Works better this way. She carried water for Obama and she was WRONG. It's going to be "the" story for the next couple of days & we get to pound HER and OBAMA. We pound HER for carrying water for Obama & for being WRONG in doing it. We pound HIM for refusing to answer the guy's question, for LYING about what he said & for the whole "VIDEO" song & dance. Our answer to Mr. "Righteous Indignation" is "Yes, we're offended that you played politics with this."

2Anglico| 10.17.12 @ 8:55AM

So, the people "in the middle" don't care when left wing lunatics act as they do? The 'middle" only gets upset when Republicans defend themselves?? BALONEY

2Anglico| 10.17.12 @ 8:57AM

My above was directed to BD57, how it got here is beyond comprehension.

2Anglico| 10.17.12 @ 9:00AM

Spectator's ad scripts keep crashing my Adobe plug in. Sorry

BD57| 10.17.12 @ 7:55AM

Sad to say, if he'd done that, all everyone would be talking about today was how Romney blasted the moderator.

That would make both "bases" happy - but there'd be people in the middle who'd think he was being disrespectful. I'm sorry - it angers me - but that's how it would play out.

Works better this way. She carried water for Obama and she was WRONG. It's going to be "the" story for the next couple of days & we get to pound HER and OBAMA. We pound HER for carrying water for Obama & for being WRONG in doing it. We pound HIM for refusing to answer the guy's question, for LYING about what he said & for the whole "VIDEO" song & dance. Our answer to Mr. "Righteous Indignation" is "Yes, we're offended that you played politics with this."

BD57| 10.17.12 @ 8:00AM

Oh, btw - good commercial (I think)

Scene 1: Video of Obama saying he's offended by the "playing politics" suggestion.

Scene 2: montage of clips UN Ambassador on the talk shoes ... " video ...." (reference to the date)

Scene 3: Obama at UN - the "video" (reference to the date)

Scene 4; The guy at the debate "Who denied the extra security request?"

Close "A simple question - which this President won't answer."

Anthony| 10.17.12 @ 9:39AM

Come on guys, your're smarter than this. Romney and his team knew what was gonna happen with Crowley. They made the right decision not to go after the sow.
This was not a R primary debate with an audience ready to go bonkers when a Gingrich pounds on the leftist media whores.
If Romeny pulled a Gingrich, the reaction would not have been favorable, and it would have given Obozo a chance to act like a real man and come to a woman's defense, as opposed to his hiding behind women. Picking on two girls would have seemed unseemly for a man of Romney's stature.
I predict however that with Sandman Schieffer, Romney may take a swipe at ole Rip Van Winkle if Schieffer reads his D tallking points correctly.
As to team Romney acceding to these leftist media whores, WHO exactly do you think the Debate Commission would accept as alternatives?
We know the deck is stacked, hell, that's why this country needs a huge shakeup.
Romney did just fine, and he handled both the empty suit and the sumo wrestler cum media whore with ease.

Joellen| 10.17.12 @ 7:26AM

Once again we watched the media not only take sides and assist in aiding and abeting this leftist betrayer to lie, cheat and distort; they then offend us by denying that they helped Obama lie, cheat and distort the facts. Obama, Biden, Clinton have blood on their hands and we the people can not ever forget that. They LIE about the terrorist attack not just in Libya but also in Fort Hood by the terrorist Nidal Malik Hasan. In fact, let's start reminding people that that too was never declared a terrorist attack it was called a "work hostility" or something of such crap. You see how the evil ones change the narrative - change it back with truth and boldness. Do you all reading Tim's responses hear and sense his rightous anger - well thats a good thing. Tim knows that we are in war - and he knows there is no time ever to play nice with these people. He wants to win his country back and restore honor and greatness to it. We only have so many days folks - so lets all do it. Get out and re-educate the folks with truth and boldness.

Tim, if I may suggest, this weekend lets do the contest on how many facts we can convey on just what this Dictator and his administration have subjected our country to.

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 9:27AM

I must respectfully Decline your Contest Criteria Suggestion. Even though you may be Smokin Hot? I think that we want to have Fun, on Fridays. (I'm told that we might have a Special Guest this week)

Besides, I'm Married to a Smoking Hot Babe, myself. A Smoking Hot Asian Babe, and I think that all us guys know how they are. Am I right, guys? Who's with me?

High Five!

What we don't realize is that, once they get that Ring on their Finger, they suddenly turn into a future applicant for the nearest Nunnery, with No Trespassing Signs posted everywhere.

What's up wit dat?

Anywho.

I appreciate the Suggestion, but I never wanna mess with a Good Thing.

This Week's Winner's Prize will be Hillary Clinton's last ounce of Self esteem, which I snatched up off the Street, after vtwin's "Nigga" (that's what vtwin calls him on this site) threw her UNDER THE BUS.

The Loser's Prize?

I'm working on it.

Maybe vtwin will donate his "Nigga"? (Once, again. His Words, not mine.)

Occam's Tool| 10.17.12 @ 12:45PM

Once again, TLP, you are right about Asian women.

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 1:14PM

You have no idea.

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 1:15PM

Or, maybe you do.

Bob Grant| 10.17.12 @ 3:15PM

Are you saying they hang the "closed for lunch", "closed for cleaning", "closed for remodeling" signs a little too often when the ring goes on?

Bob Grant| 10.17.12 @ 3:16PM

...long for the days of "visitors welcome" and "parking in rear" signs?

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 3:19PM

More like an OUT OF BUSINESS sign.

C'mon Man!| 10.17.12 @ 2:40PM

TLP, don't forget Hot Tamale latinas! Hoo boy!!

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 3:21PM

Sorry. I can't.

Like Billy Crystal said in City Slickers: "I'm Married. I caught my limit."

Butch| 10.17.12 @ 5:33PM

TLP, medical science discovered one simple food substance that reduces a woman's sex drive by ninety percent. The food substance is . . .
. . .

. . .

. . .

. . .wedding cake.

R Martin| 10.17.12 @ 7:35AM

I understand Ms. Crowley picked which questions to ask from that “uncommitted” audience. The most outrageous one came from the woman who believes George Bush is largely responsible for today’s problems and asked Romney how he is different from W. What an Obama set-up. Crowley’s lack of shame is proportional to her lack of professionalism.

BD57| 10.17.12 @ 8:01AM

Good point. The pay equity question was also a joke.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.17.12 @ 8:18AM

My "Jerk Store" after the debate was over response to the pay equity issue: As a result of President Obama's handling of the economy, women have more parity in their unemployment checks.

Frank Drackman| 10.17.12 @ 8:41AM

Or if this great law was passed 3 years ago, whats the problem? Chief Executive shirking his Law Enforcement duties???

Frank "Thats DR. Jerk, thank you" Drackman

C. Vernon Crisler | 10.17.12 @ 9:30AM

I really wish Republicans would defend George Bush, not for everything of course, but for keeping the economy on track for most of his presidency. They should point out that the Democrats took control of Congress a year before the recession, and that Democrats engineered the housing crisis, and that the questioner should really blame Democrats, not Bush, for the economic collapse.

Minuteman78| 10.17.12 @ 9:48AM

Agreed, there were what, 11 Questions? and I'm pretty sure that either 3 or 4 had Obama blaming Bush. The other 7 or 8 were spent deflecting.

And the questions were ridiculously, transparently planted by the Dems. The black guy misread his "own" (haha)) question.

It was a "Play in 1 Act" - the whiny wimp, the fat broad, and the businessman.

Hardcard| 10.17.12 @ 8:22AM

TLP is right just say NO!!!!!!! No Mas !!!!!!!

Bob Belvedere | 10.17.12 @ 8:32AM

A Sour Taste Of Candy rather than A Taste Of Honey?...God, I'm old.

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 5:18PM

You ARE old.

Why do I think that you learned to drive in a Bellvadere, and that you're still driving it to The Diner, everyday at 4 O'clock, for the Early Bird Special?

Frank Drackman| 10.17.12 @ 8:39AM

Hey, can anyone tell me how the "Town Hall" debate went??
All I could find was a SNL skit with John Belushi in Drag playing some fat CNN broad...

Frank

Wendy| 10.17.12 @ 8:40AM

Explain to me how this fat ass ever got a job on TV?

Frank Drackman| 10.17.12 @ 8:46AM

Hey Wendy babe,
Love your Bacon-ator BTW.
But 20 years ago, Candy was just sort of pleasantly plump, like Ricki Lake, and it seemed like she was always interviewing Barbara Mickulski, which moved her up a few clicks on the Hot-ometer.
And speaking of News-Babes in my Spank Bank..
Whatever happened to Laurie Dhue? She's more underground than Natalie Holloway...

Frank

Occam's Tool| 10.17.12 @ 12:48PM

Frank: alcoholism happened to Laurie.

Sincerely,

Your favorite shrink (no surgeon, I)

Cobalt| 10.17.12 @ 9:27AM

They already had enough Info Babes, but needed to hire someone to fill the position of Info Toad.

Cobalt| 10.17.12 @ 9:27AM

They already had enough Info Babes, but needed to hire someone to fill the position of Info Toad.

mike 3/505| 10.17.12 @ 10:47AM

Miss Wendy,

"Explain to me how this fat ass ever got a job on TV?"

The invention of the wide-angle television lens and more recently, Big Screen TVs.

Theng Yah Berry Muuch. Ahm here all week.

Mike

Louis Jenkins| 10.17.12 @ 8:44AM

I do not partake of Candy, nor Honeybooboo. The woman is a fat hippo, in the tank for Obama, a hopeless whore for Democrats. That was enough to turn me off. You see, when the moderator is a Blueblood Democrat it will come out during the debate, one way or another. All much too evident as last night. Why the Republicans keep going back for more at every debate is a mystery. How about having Rush as a moderator for a change?

SUBVET| 10.17.12 @ 9:43AM

Louis.............ny vote would be NEWT

MelvinNC| 10.17.12 @ 8:54AM

yeesh, unkempt, slovenly morbidly obese obnoxious woman. Probably needs a shave as well.
Candy Crowley in the epitome of what a Liberal 60s woman is.
Hillary Clinton, Janet Reno, Janet Napalatano aka "Big Sis," Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, are all flower power children of the 60s.
But the problem is they didn't enjoy the free love, free sex, free lifestyle. Why, because they were ,fat, hairy and homely, and they vowed that if given the chance, society would pay for them not being pretty.
Every one of these women have either failed or not engaged in a relationship with a male. Yes, Hillary Clinton is married to Bill Clinton which obviously is not a marriage based on love but a marriage for political convenience.
"OK, so what does this have to do with the now?" Liberalism, Liberalism opened up it's loving arms to these lonely, pissed off women. Liberalism embraced them, Liberalism gave these women purpose in life and Liberalism became they're suitors.
Liberalism gave these women of the 60s what no man could ever give them. Liberalism loved these women and they loved Liberalism back.
These women each in their own way plotted revenge. No more pretty children to be born, hence they're rabid support for abortion.
And these women wanted to reciprocate the love of Liberalism, hence they're rabid indoctrination Liberal big government onto the masses.
So we see in each of these women of the 60s. Big government is their lover.

SUBVET| 10.17.12 @ 9:47AM

Melvin..........Rush had a term for these types.....lets see if anyone is paying attention.

William L. Gensert| 10.17.12 @ 8:59AM

Crowley tried to help. After all, what is the point of being bought and paid for if you don't at least try? But, overall, she couldn't. She picked the questions she thought would allow the President to shine, but a pig is still a pig despite the lipstick.

Crowley may have thought she was helping the President by saying he called the death of our Ambassador to Libya a terrorist attack from the beginning, but her legalistic parsing of what the President actually said in the aftermath of the Stevens' assassination will only remind voters of Clinton, famously questioning what the definition of "is" is.

Read more of my article: http://www.americanthinker.com.....z29YodvmqT

gene| 10.17.12 @ 9:07AM

This is a case of winning a battle and losing the war. Candy made it possible for this Terrorist Event to stay in the news and it will become a LARGE issue in the "Foreign Affairs" Debate. Chris Matthews at the next debate will no doubt be losing his leg tingles.

BackToBasics| 10.17.12 @ 9:07AM

Here's the text from a CNN link referred to above that includes what Crowley said about her 9-12 error where she said during the debate tat Obam called the death of 4 Americans in Libya "terror" on the post-debate at CNN:

"After the debate, even Crowley seemed to acknowledge that she had erred. Romney was "right in the main" but “picked the wrong word,” she said on CNN.

gene| 10.17.12 @ 9:08AM

Fast and Furious will be in the next debate also. This Regime will go down like the Titanic.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.17.12 @ 10:08AM

"This Regime will go down like the Titanic"

Would it be rude or uncouth of me to instead suggest that it might be appropriate instead to characterize it as "go down like Monica Lewinsky in the Oval Office during the Clinton Administration"?

(Sorry, Dr. Drackman, if I got to that one first).

Frank Drackman| 10.17.12 @ 10:36AM

good one,
I was struck recently by Clinton aging into a near spitting image of Jerry Clower...

Frank

irish19| 10.17.12 @ 1:20PM

Which Clinton?

Frank Drackman| 10.17.12 @ 2:14PM

well played, suh

mike 3/505| 10.17.12 @ 7:23PM

Indeed...Nicely Done.

loulou| 10.17.12 @ 10:57AM

Genius.
Why didn't I think of that? No wonder men get paid more than women.

Occam's Tool| 10.17.12 @ 12:50PM

The going down faster jokes are my department, Albert. :-)

As in, "faster than Jack in Wi. going down on a jihadist."

Bill8472| 10.17.12 @ 9:13AM

I respectfully think that Romney was quite correct in his approach to the Benghazi incident. President Obama stated that he had referred to the incident in his Rose Garden statement as an act of terror. Obama said that. No one prompted him, and it was a clear statement made after plenty of prepartion. He knew what he was saying.

So when Romney said he wanted to get that straight for the record, that was one correct way to deal with that admission.

Yes, Candy Crowley was completely wrong to jump in and (in effect) accuse Romney of lying, but the statement was made and the "get that on the record" was also there. We who watched the debate know quite well what happened at that moment.

Who Knows?| 10.17.12 @ 9:14AM

I was all excited to watch the debate. When I saw the fat lady, who I was sure would SING all night, disgust arose.

Seeing Obama and Romney meet and shake hands shook my equanimity further. Hearing Romney’s canned opening statement forced me to put in the A&E CD of “Benedict Arnold”---how appropriate.

I’m too old to have to endure unwanted pain! Just swinging my eyeballs ANYWHERE there’s a visage of BHO makes me want to vomit.

I’ll bet there are a lot of people like me.

The key word is---despicable.

For many on the left, it applies to Romney, now, just as it did to GWB when he was top dog for the GOP. For right wingers, of course, it’s BHO.

Besides, I and a whale of a lot of other people ALREADY know who they’re going to vote for, so why bother to watch any faux debate, ESPECIALLY when the moderator is a grossly overweight CNN babe!

Remember Plato’s parable of the cave. That’s television, by and large. And, what a cave a town hall debate seems, literally.

Despicable---stems from despise, to look down on.

Indeed—there it is, again.

Observe, understand and transcend.

I see, said the carpenter, as he picked up his hammer and saw.

TinaB| 10.17.12 @ 9:50AM

That's, "I see, said the blind man, as he picked up his hammer and saw."

Who Knows?| 10.17.12 @ 10:36AM

Oops---I forgot.

cuban pete| 10.17.12 @ 9:14AM

I read somewhere that Ms Crowley is a vegetarian and has been for some time. She breaks the stereotype of vegetarians. She must consume a lot of wine and cheese.

Drunken Sailor| 10.17.12 @ 10:05AM

Yea right. She eats her veggies by consuming the cow that processed them first.

cuban pete| 10.17.12 @ 11:04AM

I knew there was an explanation.

Cincinnatius| 10.17.12 @ 2:10PM

I just blew coffee through my nose because of your comment....but it was worth it!

Drunken Sailor| 10.17.12 @ 2:43PM

Hell of a way to get your caffeine fix but I guess it beats a coffee enema. Who am I to judge?

Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.17.12 @ 1:15PM

Maybe she orders the REALLY BIG salad.

Bill8472| 10.17.12 @ 9:15AM

My question is what the hell do the debate organizers think they were about when they picked Lehrer, Raddatz, and Crowley (and, evidently, Bob Schieffer for next one)?

Why don't they take a look at Brit Hume, William Bennett, Charles Krauthammer, Chris Wallace, or somebody who could actually do a creditable job as a debate moderator?

JP| 10.17.12 @ 9:29AM

Crowley really stepped in it this time. No one is talking about Mitt's weak remarks vis-a-vis Lybia. But, the entire blogesphere, twitterdom, and much of the MSM is still talking about Crowley's cover for Obama's fib. This keeps the Benghazi attacks and Obama's reaction to those attacks front and center.

Concerning Mitt's weak response: it is obvious Mitt was attempting to square the circle. He wanted to land some significant points; but, he didn't want to be accused of "politicizing" the murder of Ambassador Stevens. This tactic has all the markings of Mitt's handlers. Either Mitt should have let the entire issue drop (agreeing with Obama), or he should have went full bore.

C. Vernon Crisler | 10.17.12 @ 9:34AM

I disagree, Mitt was doing fine on the issue right up until Crowley interrupted him and abetted Obama's false rendition of events. At that point, there's not much Romney could have done when he saw the debate was stacked against him.

Bill8472| 10.17.12 @ 10:03AM

I agree 100%. But I think the TV audience didn't miss that Crowley attempted save. Also, the situation was confused enough that some people might have seen it as an endorsement of what Romney was saying.

JP| 10.17.12 @ 10:17AM

We knew what he was trying to say. But he hesitated a number of times and couldn't deliver the knock-out blow. I thought he should have gone the route of the questioner and asked why wasn't the consulate protected. Last week's Issa hearings gave Mitt all the facts he needed (the Marine QRF being rotated to Barbados in August; the emails from Stevens pleading for better protection; and the assignment of Lybian rent-a-cops to protect the embassy. And the fact that the State Department is sitting on $2 billion of unspent funds reserved for security). Instead, Mitt got caught up in the actual scandal itself (who knew what and when?). This allowed Obama to pull off his self righteous schtick. Over-all Mitt did land some points; but I think his hesitation got the best of him.

Kelly Staples| 10.17.12 @ 9:30AM

300lbs. of teleprompter.

Minuteman78| 10.17.12 @ 9:50AM

Oh come on, be 'more civil'. At least she wore black so she would look smaller. *LOL*

SUBVET| 10.17.12 @ 9:55AM

Tell me that she doesn't look like John Candy in dragg..........sorry John.

djn1313| 10.17.12 @ 9:57AM

Ouch! Please don't hurt John.

Frank Drackman| 10.17.12 @ 9:59AM

John Candy's Karen Carpenter compared to that Tubbo...

Frank

Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.17.12 @ 10:10AM

We've only just beguuuun.....lunch.

loulou| 10.17.12 @ 10:59AM

But does a camera remove a neck?

djn1313| 10.17.12 @ 10:00AM

Don't forget the camera adds a few pounds.

Dr. B| 10.17.12 @ 11:16PM

And there were many,many cameras on her...

Drunken Sailor| 10.17.12 @ 10:06AM

On here black looks like a chalkboard.

Drunken Sailor| 10.17.12 @ 10:07AM

Should have read "On her black looks like a chalkboard".

Still need caffeine.

djn1313| 10.17.12 @ 10:00AM

I saw her on the teletubbies show.

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 5:21PM

Yeah.

She was all of them.

dnha14| 10.17.12 @ 9:53AM

She was constantly manipulating the proceedings so that Obama would get the last word. She was kissing something on Obama's posterior all night long.

djn1313| 10.17.12 @ 9:56AM

Is crowley obama's teletubbie teleprompter? This was a disgraceful, biased CNN sponsored event to help obama rescue his floundering re-election campaign.

Frank Drackman| 10.17.12 @ 9:58AM

My "Jerk Store" line....
The actual one from the show,
"Mr. President, the Jerk Store called, they're all out of YOU"
and if EICOTUS(Evolver in Chief of the US)somehow does pull out a non-telepromter-enhanced remark, use George Costanza's "Zinger"
"Oh YEAH, Well I had Sex with your Wife!"

Frank

Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.17.12 @ 1:52PM

Please insert coma or Michelle O joke here.

djn1313| 10.17.12 @ 9:59AM

I think crowley does represent the look of progressive/liberal women quite well.

Bob Grant| 10.17.12 @ 10:03AM

Speaking of Candy, watching the debate was reminiscent of biting down on a Chick-O-Stick:

an odd, sickly-sweet concoction of flavors only to crumble to pieces when you get to the middle. On the whole, one big, unsatisfying mess that rots the teeth and leads to early onset diabetes...that Obamacare wont cover!

Ok, sorry, it's early and I have no caffeine in me!

What, you don't like? then come up with your own Candy analogy...in the mean time, put a sock in it!

Pecos Pete| 10.17.12 @ 11:33AM

BG: In retrospect, looking back you know, the mental image I have of Candy is simply ugly in spirit and ugly in actions. And, I guess, not very attractive physically with her her done is some meaningless mess, among other things.

Pecos Pete| 10.17.12 @ 11:40AM

OOPS> her hair

edit key please

Bob Grant| 10.17.12 @ 2:19PM

Your right on the main :-)

Bob Grant| 10.17.12 @ 2:19PM

You're

Stkman| 10.17.12 @ 10:08AM

As I mentioned yesterday the name of Tim's new show should be "Bitchslapped!". Thats exactly what Romney did to Obama last night on the issue of drilling permits., the economy and yes, even the Benghazi attack. Romney only had one moment of weakness compared to over anhour of Obama weakness. Yes, let's all welcome a special guest to this weeks edition of "Bitchslapped!". Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Mitt Romney!

Okay Tim, take it away!

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 1:34PM

You got it.

Let's have a Mini-Contest.

Who can name the most Fall Guys that have taken it Alan Brooks Style from vtwin's "Nigga". (His words, not mine) as well as those who've been thrown under the Back of the Bus, involuntarily. Also, Alan Brooks Style.

Let's see.

GWB of course. (And, no, that doesn't stand for George Washington Bridge.)

The Stupid Police, in Cambridge.

Racists, of course.

The Republicans, who blocked him at every turn when he had Super Majorities in Both Houses.

Fox News, ATM Machines, and Jim Lerher.

Tsunamis, not enough Commies, and those people who like Pastramies.

Kiosks, Hurricanes, and Earthquakes.

It's too Hot, too Cold, and too many people who expect him to actually DO SOMETHING that doesn't add another Trillion to the Debt.

Romney, Ryan, and everyone who knows that he's Lying.

Beat that.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.17.12 @ 1:54PM

I can't beat it, so I need to get a RESET button (where's that darned English to Russian translator?).

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 3:25PM

Please push 9 for Russian.

R Martin| 10.17.12 @ 1:59PM

Easy: Rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists.

Drunken Sailor| 10.17.12 @ 2:09PM

Could you repeat that, sir?

Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.17.12 @ 3:19PM

Hedley Lamarr would be proud.

mike 3/505| 10.17.12 @ 7:25PM

Somebody go back and get a $***-load of dimes!

jom52652| 10.17.12 @ 2:25PM

How about the soldiers at Fort Hood who fell victim to "workplace violence'?

Stkman| 10.17.12 @ 4:09PM

How about 360 million Americans and 7.7 million Isreali Jews. And thats just for starters. We can add the Iranians that tried to have an uprising only to find Obama had no interest in helping them. Khadaffi Duck, Mubarek, Everyone in the Middle East who would like something better than the Muslim Murderhood. The Pakistani doctor who told us where Bin Hiden was. The United Kingdom, here take your bust of Churchill back, the bond holders from GM, the Canadians who can shove that pipeline, damn this is just to easy, every Christian, Jew, Budhist, and follower of any religion except Islam, the United States Armed Forces, everyone in the world thats not homosexual, Hawaii, Sherriff Joe, Arizona, Texas, California and New MexicosoontobepartofoldMexico, and your momma!

Trinacria| 10.17.12 @ 10:16AM

Don't worry folks, we're sure to get a fair shake from Shieffer...right?

Frank Drackman| 10.17.12 @ 10:38AM

Ummm me thinks Shieffer won't ask EICOTUS(Evolver in Chief of the United States) if he's still smoking those cancer sticks...

Frank "Still Smokin' " Drackman

Trinacria| 10.17.12 @ 11:03AM

I'm still cackling over Mr. McCain's description of Schieffer as "the venerable Bob Schieffer"...

What's next? The Honorable Al Sharpton? The soft spoken Chris Matthews? The smokin' hot Rachel Maddow? Please....

Frank Drackman| 10.17.12 @ 12:41PM

ever see Rachel Mad-Cows Highschool pic???
Hommina Hommina..

Frank

Trinacria| 10.17.12 @ 12:59PM

Yep; pretty handsome fella...

John II| 10.17.12 @ 10:55AM

Crowley's performance last night reminds me of the symbolism embedded in human action. I mean, it's not just a literary device--it's THERE in real-life events, always either winking or leering at us, depending on the display. Consider for example:

1. Aristotle's "fat-souled" moral agency in his Ethics was perfectly on display in the braying image of the rotund Associate Professor Crowley.

2. The basic American understanding of the State's role in human affairs is that of referee, not participant, in the game of life. The basic Lefty take on the State's role is all-encompassing: the State moderates the game and jumps in to play on whichever side it chooses according to whatever whim strikes it to do so. Symbolically on display last night was Associate Professor Crowley's capacious vision of the State.

3. Don't even get me started on the symbolism on display in the antics of the Professor himself.

Dr. Jung, call your office. November 6 cannot get here too early.

Occam's Tool| 10.17.12 @ 12:53PM

Or, as an English teacher in my high school used to call it, "lead pipe symbolism." Symbolism with all the subtlety of Moe Howard's haircut.

(By the way, in real life, Moe was a good natured gentleman who took very good care of his brothers when they went through their various health and financial problems as well as Larry Fine. A mensch, as a matter of fact.)

KyMouse| 10.17.12 @ 2:51PM

If memory serves, OT, Moe relaxed by making hooked rugs.

Bob Grant| 10.17.12 @ 3:08PM

Moe Howard's haircut?

Hey, I resemble that remark!

Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.17.12 @ 3:27PM

Nyuk nyuk nyuk

SMACK

Woobwoobwoobwoob

Who Knows?| 10.17.12 @ 11:00AM

Tony has died. I was in Da free John’s (now known as Adi Da) community with her from 1975 78. She was a member until her death

Antonia Vidor—eldest child of film director King Vidor (Duel in the Sun, The Fountainhead, etc.)—before her passing last month:
"Although I may never in this lifetime as Antonia Vidor surrender the ego to the point of permanent enlightenment, the realities of old age and the prospect of death have lost their sting for me. I accept my inevitable death with contentment. How great is the threat of losing the life, losing the mind, losing all relations, when one has a daily practice of drowning in the mindless ecstasy of Divine Love and knowing its eternal presence?
. . . I know for certain that the long dream of my life has mysteriously moved me through a thirty-five-year love affair with Bhagavan Adi Da so that I might learn the ecstasy of surrender to a Divine Being, the One beyond birth and death. Prior to meeting Bhagavan, I had no possibility of attaining such real happiness, which sometimes causes me to break out in dance with abandon and joy—at the age of 82."
See ya.

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 1:37PM

Does ANYONE understand ANYTHING that this guy writes?

Hence the name: Who Knows?

Drunken Sailor| 10.17.12 @ 2:48PM

(Psst, I think it's PostAmerican and they finally got his medication levels right)

Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.17.12 @ 3:24PM

No, I think WK is a veteran/post-commune dwelling Buddhist. POST had such a hangup for collectivism, the Korean War and Red China (along with YOU-jen-IKS), I doubt that he could ever entertain a notion of adopting a religion from the ORE-EEE-ent.

But I could be wrong.

Drunken Sailor| 10.17.12 @ 4:08PM

No your probably right. I see it too but some of the post sure are out there.

Anthony| 10.17.12 @ 11:04AM

Hey, we took Candy at her word that she wasn't just going to be a fly on the wall, but jeez, we didn't expect her to be the 2nd elephant in the room either!!!!

Who Knows?| 10.17.12 @ 11:29AM

very funny

Crassus| 10.17.12 @ 11:50AM

Get her name right. It's not Candy Crowley, it's Candy Karloff.

Oldefarte| 10.17.12 @ 1:32PM

The president told untruths about Benghazi, about drilling offshore, about his desire to raise taxes of all kinds, etc.........in summary he's a GD LIAR, period!!!!!!!!!!!

woodsman1st| 10.17.12 @ 1:38PM

I knew that Crowley would be a biased moderator; however I did not expect her to join in on the debate as a willing partner with obummer.
Absolutely a disgracefull performance; this must rate as one of the worst of the many attempts to carry obummer back into the white house on the shoulders of the liberal media. The liberal media acts like a part of the obummer administration; totally removed from any definition of Journalism.

Nick| 10.17.12 @ 3:25PM

ATTENTION ALL STINKING LIBERALS WHO INFEST THESE THREADS

Here is the video and transcript of the Appeaser-in-Chief's statement of September 12th, 2012, in the Rose Garden.

Now, stinking libs, here is your task:
Give me a quotation from the transcript, or, a time-stamp from the video, where O'Bama says the atrocity in Benghazi was the result of a terrorist attack.

All he keeps saying is "the attackers," or " these brutal acts," or "this attack," or "this type of senseless violence." He never mentions the word "terror" until the third from last paragraph, and, only once.

I love this stupid comment: "Today, the loss of these four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on."

O'BAMA LIED LAST NIGHT. Period.

RCV| 10.17.12 @ 3:38PM

You're really starting to lose it, Nick.

"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done."

Sorry if he didn't word it exactly like you wanted it, but there's no mistaking what he said. At least to those who still can see clearly.

RCV| 10.17.12 @ 3:41PM

To put it bluntly, "acts of terror" and "terrorist acts" are synonymous if you aren't trying to twist things for political purposes.

Drunken Sailor| 10.17.12 @ 4:11PM

So Obama was "For" calling it a act of terror, before he was "Against" calling it a terrorist act and is now "For" calling it a terrorist act again?

Glad we cleared that up.

RCV| 10.17.12 @ 4:14PM

It was only confusing in your mind to begin with.

Drunken Sailor| 10.17.12 @ 4:28PM

And in the minds of Mrs. Rice, Jay Carrey, Hillary Clinton, most of the news agencies and pretty much everyone who didn't have their head up Obama's ass. Well at least for about 14 days or so then apparently the "Fog of War" finally cleared up.

RCV, this is a stretch even for you. Your temper keeps getting shorter the worse Obama's numbers get.

RCV| 10.17.12 @ 4:39PM

I'm feeling pretty darn good, Sailor. We'll see how those numbers look next week. As Ross Kaminsky noted in his blog, the in-trade odds shot up 3 points in Obama's favor immediately after the debate. I strongly suspect we'll see the same in the polls by this time next week.

It was an enjoyable week anyway, watching the hypocrites on the GOP right come unravelled. First, Tea Party favorite Republican congressman Scott DesJarlais, a physician who opposes abortion rights, was exposed for having impregnated a patient and then pressuring her to get an abortion. Then just last night, the insufferable "Christian" moralist, Dinesh D'Souza, was revealed to have snuck a woman not his wife into his hotel room while attending a conference on -- you can't make this stuff up -- "Christian Morality". The Board of Trustees of King's College, the evangelical school Mr. D'Souza is President of, is currently undertaking an investigation for potential disciplinary action against him.

The follies continue. What's to get upset about?

Jack London| 10.17.12 @ 4:54PM

Funny morals the GOP has – screwing people, preferably with their pants down and stealing their wallets simultaneously.

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 5:25PM

At least they don't RAPE them, like the guy who Shared the Stage with The Muslim, just a coupla weeks ago.

RCV| 10.17.12 @ 6:36PM

Only in the right's minds, TLP. I missed those convictions on the President's record. The fabricated GOP stories lacked credibility - kind of like the Obama bathhouse story you're so fond of.

Freedomfighter_99| 10.18.12 @ 5:37AM

The GOP can be fixed, and we're working on it now, but the DNC? Forget it....gone for good down the Commie Hole.

Drunken Sailor| 10.17.12 @ 4:56PM

As you say, we will see.

Gallup +6 Romney 10/16/2012. Let's see where this goes.

RCV| 10.17.12 @ 5:22PM

Indeed. Two other polls today:

Rasmussen +1 Romney
Investos Business Daily (IBD/TIPP) +2 Obama

CJW| 10.17.12 @ 7:22PM

RCV, given your sensibilities, I assume you did not vote Bubba the Rapist/Molester in 92 and 96.

RCV| 10.17.12 @ 10:15PM

I did indeed vote for Bill, and a fine President he was.

Jack London| 10.17.12 @ 4:38PM

Well it wasn't really a terrorist attack - it was an assault on an enemy target by a fundamentalist group. I think it's reasonable to take time to establish what happened and who did it. A key point is that most of the locals there were outraged and went after the perps. I think we were horribly unlucky with this one and that it's hard to stop a small group of well-armed men - just look at what four men from within the UK did to the London metro.

Drunken Sailor| 10.17.12 @ 4:58PM

It wasn't really a terrorist attack?

Dare I ask?

Please give your definition of a terrorist attack and just how well armed or how many men it takes to become one.

Jack London| 10.17.12 @ 5:04PM

Surely a terrorist attack is against civilians. This wasn't - it was targeting an enemy installation. You could argue that the consulate staff were civilians but they were not ordinary civilians as in the original 9/11. By the way - just who did we blame for not stopping that 9/11? And what did GW do just after?

Here's a definition:

terrorist attack - a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims

Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.17.12 @ 6:09PM

Not only are diplomats civilians, they are privileged civilians (i.e.-diplomatic immunity) under international and domestic law. While you could make that argument if there was an attack on a military installation (in which case those not in uniform or in conformance with the Geneva Convention would be unlawful combatants, subject to trial by military commission and detention at Gitmo, etc), an embassy or consulate is also a privileged piece of real estate (considered sovereign territory of the nation represented).

But, I'm glad to see that you describe an American consulate as "an enemy installation", as that does reveal where your head is.

CJW| 10.17.12 @ 7:21PM

Albert
Good catch. Should have expected that Commie Jack regards US territory as an enemy installation.

mike 3/505| 10.17.12 @ 6:15PM

to qualify as a terrorist attack civilians do NOT need to be the target and the act MUST be criminal. A terrorist act is an act of criminal violence to achieve a political end.

Stkman| 10.17.12 @ 5:05PM

Jack,
A few marines can stop a lot of armed men. Maybe one day we'll get an answer as to why the additional security that the embassador asked for was denied three or more times.
Here's the deal, not sine Jimmy Carter have we lost an ambassador in that fashion. Carter, who allowed Iranian radicals to take an emdassy and hold its employees hostage for over a year. An act of war, that was NEVER avenged. An act of WAR that has caused much of the heartache and frustration we see in the middle east today. But hey, its was George Bushes fault that Iran took and embassy in 1979,right?

Jack London| 10.17.12 @ 5:30PM

Under Reagan we had double attacks on Beirut barracks - the first killed 299 American and French servicemen. Under GW Bush, we had 9/11 and the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan - how many American lives lost?

We can all play this game - but one thing is for sure - Obama's policy against 'terror' has been relentless, while also pursuing engagement. I doubt Benghazi will be found to be a huge failing matched against say GW Bush.

By the way, which party has been instrumental in cutting state department funding?

CJW| 10.17.12 @ 5:47PM

Commie Jack
Do you have any evidence that Obama did not increase security at Tripoli and Benghazi because of any State Dept funding cuts?
Michelle spend over twelve million in three years on vacations in Spain, Hawaii, Vail, Manhattan, etc. TWELVE MILLION. How much security in Benghazi would that have provided?

CJW| 10.17.12 @ 5:25PM

RCV
Are you saying that on Monday Obama termed the attack a terrorrist attack? If he did, then why the talk for two weeks on Letterman, the View, the UN, Amb Rice, the ad apology on Paki Tv, etc about the video? I agree with you he knew on Monday it was terrorrist attack on Benghazi, but he never said that. He blamed the video.

What exactly are you saying, that he knew on Monday it was a terrorrist attack on Benghazi and said so on his Monday speech before he left for fundaising in Vegas?

You are twisting Obama's words to have him say on Monday that it was a terrorrist attack. Not even Obama and Baghdad Jay Carney are defending Obama as you seem.

Butch| 10.17.12 @ 5:45PM

Give it up. The ambassador suspected attack, reported it, asked for additional security, and was denied. An American ambassador and three other Americans were defiled and killed. Administration tried for two weeks to pass it off as a spontaneous thing: President, SecState, and UN Ambassador directly participated. In-your-face coverup, bubble was burst last night. More to come. Gross negligence by the American administration, followed by attempted cover-up.

Nick| 10.17.12 @ 8:06PM

No fair, RCV, I told you where that quote was.
What? Did you think I didn't watch the whole video?

Two paragraphs before that quote:
"And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi."

Why didn't the Apologist-in-Chief call it a terror attack then?
And, if O'Bama meant what you libs seem to believe, why did he, and the rest of the regime, spend the next 2 weeks INSISTING that this was a "tragedy" caused by a protest, that turned into a mob, which was angry over the stupid video?
Jihadis Gone Wild, if you will.

The liberal argument just doesn't make any sense.

None of this sheds any light on why the warnings prior to 9/11, and the requests for additional security, were ignored by the regime. Does it?
This is the motive for why the O'Bama regime keeps lying about the murders of four Americans in Benghazi.

Every day we are talking about Libya is another bad day for Team O'Bama.

p.s. What is the Appeaser-in-Chief's plan to turn around the economy, RCV?
Something he has failed to do in over three and half years?
(The CBS snap poll of "undecideds" gave last night's debate to Romney by a margin of 2 - 1. Uh-oh!)

Nick| 10.17.12 @ 8:31PM

Oops! That should be: (The CBS snap poll of "undecideds" gave last night's debate to Romney by a margin of 2 - 1 ON THE ECONOMY. Uh-oh!)

CJW| 10.17.12 @ 9:31PM

Nick
The Dem story is now that Obama knew and said it was a terrorrist attack on Benghazi. He was just kidding about the video. When he said the general phrase "act of terror" as you ably pointed out, we must read his mind to understand he meant specifically the Benghazai attack.

Forget what he and his lackeys said for two weeks on the View, Letterman, the UN, the press conferences by Baghdad Bob Carney, the TV apologies on Paki TV, and the rest. They forgot to tell Crazy Joe for his debate, but the Obamadolts here are all following the new party line.

RCV| 10.17.12 @ 10:25PM

You don't have to "read his mind". He used the phrase "act of terror" in the sentence before referring to the four Americans who were killed. Are you guys really that thick that you can't follow the thought? And instead of directing your ire at our President, you might direct a little of it at the terrorists instead of using the Ambassador's corpse as a political prop. But that's what you guys like to do, isn't it. Kind of like Ryan the other day, pretending to wash dishes in a soup kitchen for a photo op. - the dishes he was "washing" were already clean. Maybe Dinesh D'souza can lecture us on the "Christian Morality" of such antics?

CJW| 10.17.12 @ 10:56PM

Since you voted for Bubba any comment about Dinesh or anyone is hypocritical. We do not need lectures on morality from Bubba voters.

You Dems are now trying to cover up the cover up. The first cover up was the lie that the Benghazi attack was caused by the video when it was obvious that it was a terrorrist attack.

O lied for two weeks, and said on the View and Letterman that it was caused by a video. His lackeys, Hillary, Rice, Carney, continued to lie that the Benghazi attack was caused by a video.

Now the story is that Obama knew on Monday it was a terrorrist attack and said so. So the new lie and coverup is that what Obama and his lackeys said for two weeks did not really happen.

We direct our ire at a lying president who did not tell us the truth, did not protect the four dead Americans, and went off to fundraise in Vegas instead of dealing with the matter. There is no question that everyone wants the terrorrists punished, but do not give us your phoney sanctimonious speech that we are not concerned about four dead Americans, especially when Obama lied and went to Vegas after the attack.

You Dems that have lost all integrity to support a lying president, Obama, but you are consistent since you did the same for the Rapist, disbarred attorney, and perjurer Bubba.

You still are dancing around the question, Did Obama say on Monday that the Benghazi was a terrorrist attack, yes or no? If yes, why the two week story about the video?

RCV| 10.17.12 @ 11:10PM

He said it was a terrorist attack, and it was, whether it was motivated by the video or preplanned in advance. What was not known at the beginning was whether the attack had any connection to Al Qaeda, or was the work of local Islamacists following on the Cairo attack. That information was still being developing and still is. When we finally figure out exactly who was behind it, the administration will relentlessly hunt them down and take the out, as the have effectively done with al Qaeda and other terrorists.

As for Clinton, he is indeed a morally flawed sexual compulsive. The "rape" charges have never seemed to me very convincing, but if there is real evidence, he ought to be prosecuted. But Clinton has never pretended to be a moral paragon like that hypocrite D'Souza and that scumbag GOP tea party congressman.

CJW| 10.18.12 @ 8:12AM

You should get a job writing for Obama, you are spinning better than any of his "folks."

Nick| 10.17.12 @ 11:51PM

Surely I don't have to explain to a lawyer how quotation marks work, do I, RCV?

The Appeaser-in-Chief said, "No acts of terror will ever shake [...]." Actssssss. Plural. He was not talking about the attack on Benghazi. At least not exclusively. Ergo, he is lying.

Again, previously O'Bama said "this attack in Benghazi." He referred to the attackers as "killers," not terrorists. He then spent TWO WEEKS blaming the video, and sending out surrogates to do the same. Even though, officials in the State Department watched the attack, in real time, the night it happened.
Explain why that happened, RCV?

All this was after they failed to increase security at our Libyan missions in preparation for the 9/11 anniversary. And, after al-Zawahiri called on Libyan's to avenge Abu Yahya al-Libi's death, on September 10th.
(Which was on Monday, CJW. The Rose Garden speech was on Wednesday.)

Even after this threat from al Qaeda, the O'Bama regime didn't increase security in Tripoli or Benghazi. And, four Americans died.

Don't you want to know why, RCV?
Why are willing to ignore such incompetence?
Worse still, why are you disgracefully defending it?
Must O'Bama be re-elected at all costs?
I thought you said you could live with a President Romney?
Doesn't sound like it.

RCV| 10.18.12 @ 11:36AM

Sorry, Nick, but your attempts to parse and twist the words beyond their obvious and ordinary meaning is laughable.

I do indeed want to find out what happened to cause any security lapses at Benghazi, and I have every confidence that will be done. I certainly don't blame the President for it, any more than I blame President Bush for the appalling intelligence failures in his administration that led to the deaths of more than 3,000 Americans at the orld Trade Center.

And, yes, I "could live with a President Romney," tough I have higher aspirations for our country. But the Republic is strong and resilient and will survive just fine no matter which gentleman is elected. It's a great country, Nick, despite the best efforts of the right to denigrate it and its citizens.

CJW| 10.18.12 @ 2:35PM

President Bush did not go on TV shows blaming a video for the attack to justify any intelligence lapse.
Obama went on a two week campaign of lying to blame the attack on a video. Why? He was trying to cover up his administration's incompetence. Even if he termed the attack on Monday a terrorrist attack, which he did not, that does not explain away his two week campaign of lying and coverup, probably engineered by his chief political hack, Axelrod.

Nick| 10.18.12 @ 3:00PM

It was Wednesday, CJW. See my reply to RCV, from last night.
The Benghazi attack occurred on Tuesday, September 11th, 2012.
O'Bama spoke the next morning.

Nick| 10.18.12 @ 2:57PM

Sorry, RCV, the attempts to parse are coming from Team O'Bama. Just as you liberals had to parse the word "is" with your pathetic attempts to defend Bubba "The Rapist" Clinton, remember?

Have you even read the whole transcript of the Rose Garden speech? O'Bama referred to the stupid video when he apologized, again, for American free-speech rights. And, he NEVER called the Benghazi assault a terrorist attack.

I see you still can't answer my question about the TWO WEEK tour of lies committed by O'Bama, Shrillary, Rice, Carney, et al. Why can't you?

The indefensible liberal position is:
1) The Appeaser-in-Chief clearly stated that the assassination of Amb. Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, and Tyrone Woods was the result of a terrorist attack, on the morning of September 12th.
2) O'Bama, and the rest of the regime, then spent the next TWO WEEKS saying it was a protest that got out of control, resulting in the mob killing of the four Americans, because of the stupid anti-Moslem video.

You guys truly boggle the mind.

Besides, Romney/Ryan is up SEVEN POINTS over O'Bama/Crowley in the latest Gallop poll.
Ouch!
Romney is above 50% nationally. The "undecideds" are breaking, RCV.

What's the best that you O'Bamniacs can come back with?
Binders?
Big Bird?
And continual lies about Benghazi.
How sad.

RCV| 10.18.12 @ 5:16PM

We'll see what the polls look like next week, Nick, as women flee the GOP ticket in droves.

Nick| 10.18.12 @ 6:07PM

Perhaps you missed the news, RCV, while crying in your pillow?
Mr. Romney has closed the "gender gap" to within the margin of error.
Uh-oh!

Still can't answer my question, huh?
I provide facts, and you just have mere assertions, with no basis in reality.

RCV| 10.18.12 @ 7:20PM

...and then there was his performance this week. We shall see what the polls show about his standing with women after the debate. Methinks it won't be pretty for him.

You don't provide facts, Nick. You provide histrionics and laughable word-twisting.

Nick| 10.18.12 @ 8:04PM

Umm, these polls are after the debate, RCV.
You're taking this HopeyChangey thing too far.
By "performance," do you mean binders & Big Bird?
Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

You also need to look up the definition of the word "fact."

RCV| 10.18.12 @ 9:37PM

Sorry, Nick, but once again you've got your facts wrong. The latest Gallup Poll was taken over a six day period, October 11-17. Very little relate to post-debate results. We won't see those til next week. However, two state polls out late today which do include more (but not all) post debate results confirm good results for Obama: Iowa - Obama +8, Wisconsin Obama +6.

And the fact that you don't even reognize how offensive Romney was to women in his remarks does not surprise me.

But we will know by early next week how it went.
Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-back to you!

And by the way, a substantial percentageof the vote in swing states has already been cast, thanks to early voting and judges blocking GOP attempts to keep voters from the polls.

RCV| 10.18.12 @ 9:54PM

And, Nick, let's look at the current state of the electoral vote breakdown, the only numbers that matter (as Al Gore painfully knows).

Let's start with your favorite pollster, Rasmussen.
The very latest tabulation of Rasmussen's state polls gives Obama 237, Romney 196, with 105 "tossups". Of those toss up states, Obama leads with a total of 95 out of 105 -- only Missouri lean to Romney.

So, Rasmussen Electoral College Breakdown:
Obama 332
Romney 206

Real Clear Politics Electoral College Breakdown:
Obama 294
Romney 244

FiveThirtyEight.com Electoral College Breakdown:
Obama 287
Romney 251

Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha.....who's "hoping"?

Cuffs| 10.17.12 @ 3:31PM

"Jive ass street hustler" LOVE IT-PERFECT!!!!!!

TLP| 10.17.12 @ 5:29PM

Now, are you actually in Cuffs, as you're writing this?

megapotamus | 10.17.12 @ 3:38PM

My favorite bit was the Rose Garden. Yep, after that Stevens fella was unfortunately buggered in Benghazi I went out, stood in the Rose Garden, thorns and all, and I told everyone, ah, Governor, I told the world that I denounce this, um, act of terror.

Then the "Proceed Governor..." What a maroon. He must not have heard Romney's little interjection, "I'd like to get the President on record on this." Obama really thought Mitt would hang himself somehow. I can just picture the staff meeting where some genius realizes that O did use the word "terror" once in that announcement which apparently is to invalidate two or three weeks of daily denial of that assertion. This is NOT going away and remember the dedicated Foreign Policy debate is yet to occur.

Stkman| 10.17.12 @ 5:07PM

Ding dong Obama's gone. oops, sorry. We still have three weeks to go don't we?

Buck Ofama| 10.17.12 @ 5:10PM

Candy SOWLEY

Bob Grant| 10.17.12 @ 6:05PM

At the risk of appearing to copy TLP's Analogy Game, here's one for those who want to partake.

In honor of Candy's "excellent" performance as moderator last night a game of Candyland is in order. The rules are simple. Contestants must choose a candy that best describes the players from last night's debate. I'll start:

Obama - a toss up between Milk Duds in honor of his mixed heritage and the fact that he's a complete "dud", and Tootsie Roll because they remind me of turds...which remind me of obama.

Romney - Payday because I expect the economy to takeoff as soon as he's elected.

Candy Crowley - A Reverse Pez Dispenser, one that ingests the candy, not dispense.

Michelle Obama - Those Whitman Sampler orange filled chocolates that no one ever eats. Worthless. Makes one wonder why they are there in the first place.

Ann Romney - Divinity.

mike 3/505| 10.17.12 @ 6:19PM

Obama-Cotton Candy...tastes sweet (to some folk) but no substance.

Romney_PayDay...agree

Crowley-Blow Pop...you figure it out

Michelle Obama-FruitCake...high calorie/fattening and tastes bad to boot.

Ann Romney-Divinity...agree

Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.17.12 @ 7:43PM

"Michelle Obama-FruitCake...high calorie/fattening and tastes bad to boot"

...and rarely actually eaten...

mike 3/505| 10.17.12 @ 8:35PM

You made me spew a mouthful of very good...well, OK very cheap scotch, all over my keyboard.

Bob Grant| 10.17.12 @ 9:24PM

Famous Grouse?...Grants?

mike 3/505| 10.18.12 @ 8:06AM

I tried some of that"Pinch" stuff...wasn't very good...I'm going back to single Malt...."Dahlmor." You may have done me a favor. :-)

Bob Grant| 10.17.12 @ 9:25PM

If Candy's a Blow Pop then someone needs to exhale...and PRONTO!

Bob Grant| 10.17.12 @ 9:26PM

Sorry, that would be inhale.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 10.17.12 @ 7:57PM

Biden-Chocolate Easter Bunny; a large confection that bears no relationship to the Christian holiday, completely hollow and empty on the inside.

Bob Grant| 10.17.12 @ 9:22PM

Perfect. An apt description of the Cafeteria Catholic.

bluecollarbytes| 10.17.12 @ 8:01PM

The debate reinforced Obama as the biggest single obstacle to righting the private sector- from which emanates everything.

obama in a nutshell-everything will be alright as long as obama can control things

floridahan| 10.17.12 @ 8:16PM

Bob Schieffer is another liberal but I believe a bit brighter than Candy, so the bias won't be as obvious, but it'll be there.
I hope that Romney's researchs/advisors will be stonger in giving him better ways to counterattack. No question Romney is more intelligent, but he needs to get tougher.

DWoDiego| 10.17.12 @ 11:16PM

That wasn't Candy, that was Mike Myers in drag

Freedomfighter_99| 10.18.12 @ 5:34AM

If John Candy weren't 6-ft under I'd swear it was HIM in drag!

Caroline| 10.17.12 @ 11:21PM

According to Jack Kelly at tothepointnews.com, one of the undecideds was a Code Pink activist. He also said,
"However, I must confess something. Thank God that it was only Candy Crowley's bias that was naked last night."

ElGordo| 10.18.12 @ 12:13AM

C.N.N. had a contract with the R.N.C. to maintain certain rules during the 2nd Presidential Debate. Their employee, Candy Crowley, knowingly breached some of those rules.
The R.N.C. should sue C.N.N. for Breach of Contract.

Freedomfighter_99| 10.18.12 @ 5:33AM

When are we going to get a moderator who's NOT a bleepin' Leftist TOOL??!!!

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