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Political Hay
The Electability Myth
When does the electability kick in? Could America really want four more years of Obama?
TAMPA — When Republicans, particularly of the Washington establishment variety, start talking about “electability,” it’s time to activate our nonsense filters.
Recall 1999 when establishment Republican types started whooping up a vote-getting machine named George W. Bush. Never mind that this guy was the son of a noblesse oblige, patrician of a president who, after eight years of tutelage under the Gipper, reverted to non-conservative form in office, in the process piddling away the largest favorability ratings in presidential history.
Pay no attention, the pooh-bahs crooned, to the fact that young W had no visible conservative bona-fides, and that his “compassionate conservatism” (as opposed to the mean old un-hyphenated variety) sounded a lot like liberalism. No, the little men behind the Republican establishment curtain insisted, just focus on the happy fact that this guy is a dead-bang winner, a vote-magnet of the first water.
So how did that work out? In 2000, Mr. Electability got more than a half million fewer votes than Al Gore, who needed Naomi Wolf to teach him how to dress in the morning, and who some of his own supporters described as a man-like creature. (Then in ‘04 the vote-getting machine barely beat Jean-François Kennedy Heinz Fonda Kerry, who resembles E.T., and is even more foreign.) Only the peculiarities of our Electoral College system and Ralph Nader’s ego (remember the Florida 2000 results) put Mr. Electability in office.
W’s vote-getting prowess proved an illusion. But once in office, he did prove that he was better at spending tax-payers’ money than even Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter in a wind storm.
Now, some of the same gang are enjoying some success pinning the electability tag on Mitt Romney, with as little to back it up as in W’s case. All through this year’s primaries, Republican voters were urged to stop worrying and support Mitt because he was, you guessed it, electable. It was never clear on what Mitt’s electability was based. After all, while Republicans were running the congressional table in 1994, a sweep of historical proportions, Romney was losing a Senate seat in Massachusetts to Ted Kennedy by 17 points. In the 2008 presidential primaries, Romney lost to John McCain. (John McCain!) In the 2012 primary cycle, Romney took eons to outlast a series of flawed opponents. With electability like this….
Now that it’s Romney vs. Obama, how is Mr. Electability 2.0 doing? So far, nothing to write home about. Controversies about current polling practices notwithstanding, the race is almost certainly something close to a dead heat now. And it shouldn’t be.
The economy is in a parlous state, with unemployment stuck north of eight percent, and will stay there as long as the command and control policies of our statist president remain in place. The country has an operatic, unsustainable debt. We’re broker than a sailor on the day before payday, and the president and his gang are still spending like we just won the lotto. Our rookie president apologizes to Islamist fanatics who murder Americans (and plan to murder more of us) and is in denial about the fact that America has very real and very determined enemies who need to be defeated, not sucked up to. Thanks to an executive branch on regulatory steroids, our freedoms are receding faster than a snow-cone in Tampa in August.
None of this should be congenial to the American electorate, where self-described conservatives outnumber liberals by two to one. For those who doubt that America is still a center-right country (despite the worst efforts of academe, the media, Hollywood, the education industry, and much of the clergy), jut take a look at some of the issue results Rasmussen Polls has come up with over the past few weeks:
• 66 percent of likely voters believe we have too much government power and too little individual freedom (7/16).
• 83 percent favor work requirements for welfare recipients (7/18).
• 57 percent say venture capital firms are better for job creation than government programs (7/18).
• 62 percent put economic growth ahead of economic fairness (7/19).
• 68 percent believe there are too many unnecessary laws in the USA today (8/13).
• 87 percent oppose letting government officials play politics in the marketplace (8/9).
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spike59| 9.28.12 @ 6:20AM
From an article in the Prague newspaper, Prager Zeitungon:
“The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their President.”
The Avenger| 9.28.12 @ 7:08AM
The truth could not be stated more clearly. We have the government that we deserve, sadly.
Marston| 9.28.12 @ 12:13PM
And the nominee we deserve.
Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 9.29.12 @ 8:13PM
If you were running a first-rate candidate this autumn, you would win, because though America is no longer conservative as it was in the '80s, it is still old-fashioned; and Americans like the sentimentality involved with Ryan.
You would have won in '92, '96, and '08 with a top-notch candidate as well.
Lyneuss Fields | 9.28.12 @ 12:22PM
And if your buddy Romney gets elected, this is the screwball Conservatives be stuck with as a shoe-in as Chief of Staff or Treasury Secretary; see here and scroll down:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Leavitt
This jerk is the king of Puritan skulduggery and buffoonery!
http://lyneussfields.blogspot......chine.html
Dennis D| 9.30.12 @ 2:11PM
I don't know much about Mormons but I know plenty about Jeremiah Wright and his pal Louis Farrahkan.
Lyneuss Fields | 9.30.12 @ 9:06PM
Neither Wright nor Farrakhan are "shoe-ins for Treasury Secretary or Chief of Staff. But, my point was, Mike Leavitt's education doesn't qualify him for either one of these positions. He is being selected because he, like Romney, served a mission for The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. I've grown up with these zealots ever since I was baptized as an 8-year old child into this dangerous sect.
http://lyneussfields.blogspot......gious.html
spike59| 10.1.12 @ 5:45AM
please try, with a straight face, to tell me that ANYONE Romney might (and the operative word is 'might', ObaMaotroll) appoint for any cabinet position would be as bad as the socialists, hacks, tax cheats, liars, and incompetent drones currently heading the various Ministries of Dear Leader's regime
Lyneuss Fields | 10.1.12 @ 9:22AM
We're in a world of shit, aren't we?
Lyneuss Fields | 10.1.12 @ 9:23AM
We're in a world of deep dog dung, aren't we?
Aristocat| 9.29.12 @ 6:55AM
Obama is the anti-Christ and his followers are servants of the anti-Christ.
Cobalt| 9.29.12 @ 8:18AM
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam"
Obama
The Anti-Blasphemy, Anti-First-Amendment President
Written by: Diana West
http://www.dianawest.net/Home/.....ident.aspx
Ron Ackenberry| 9.29.12 @ 11:54AM
That's what they used to say about Bush.
What goes around comes around.
Now do you have anything of substance to say?
Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 9.29.12 @ 8:16PM
This is what an Assembly of God pastor told me in 1986:
"Ronald= 6
Wilson=6
Reagan=6"
It goes on every decade.
Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 9.29.12 @ 8:25PM
... btw, "6" is, in white-trash eschatalogical thinking, the sign of that special someone who is
"almost a '7' ";
the man who is the counterfeit Jesus (Jesus being a '7' if you didn't already know).
Such is paranoid white trash numerological eschatology, updated every decade-- so you'd better store canned goods in your hidey-hole for when the Great Tribulation begins. And gold coins, too. You don't want to be left out of the gold coin action. Even after the End Times you will have to keep up with the Joneses' portfolios.
Dennis D| 9.30.12 @ 2:14PM
666 has nothing to do with being white or being trash. It has religious meaning referring to the Mark of the Beast.
Toinfinityandbeyond| 9.30.12 @ 7:26PM
Ryan / Romney
Ryan / Romney
Ryan / Romney
Sweet Jesus~
lol
GOP has this dude as their ticket.
Sweet Jesus~
lol
spike59| 10.1.12 @ 5:46AM
Anti-Christ? hardly; the Antichrist would at least be competent; this moron is the Anti-American
Kwan| 9.28.12 @ 8:30AM
The ability survive whether it be a country or a person is directly related to the ability to detect danger. Lose this ability and your chances of survival are reduced. Based on several statements he made in the 2008 Presidential Campaign, plus a questionable background, and a total lack of leadership experience, it was obvious that Obama was not Presidential material. Yet a majority of the electorate rolled the dice on this guy, and 3+ years later it's obvious that they rolled craps. To best describe the madness that overcame a majority of the electorate in 2008 I used the title of a book -Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds- that chronicled the "Tulip Mania" that engulfed Holland in the 17th century. Let's hope that on November 6th the "Obama Mania" that deluded a majority of the electorate in 2008, has been replaced with the ability to recognize the danger that Obama represents to the survival of the nation.
Pecos Pete| 9.28.12 @ 9:01AM
Kwan: The sad thing is that we have to "hope" that sanity will return to the voters.
TLP| 9.28.12 @ 10:31AM
The Contest is at Mr. Purple's House.
Toinfinityandbeyond| 9.29.12 @ 3:15AM
Ryan / Romney
Ryan / Romney
Ryan / Romney
Sweet Jesus~
I can't stop laughing.
lol
GobBluthe| 9.28.12 @ 10:20AM
Youre correct. I am getting fed up with the argument that Romney is a bad candidate or running a bad campaign. None of the other GOP candidates in 2008 were electable even slightly.
Romney, unlike Dukakis, has never had a consistent lead. Thus unlike Dukakais, he isnt losing due to a lousy campaign. He is losing because The Permanent Democratic Majority is here. This is what it looks like. Nothing the majority party can do will cause it to lose. Not recessions, bad polices that retard emp and growth, not foreign policy incompetence, not scandal. Nothing can cause them to lose because for cultural reasons and affinity, the majority of the population overlooks these facts when voting. Conservatives are unable to resign themselves to this possibility. To them it is always the candidate, campaign or the media, but not the voters.
Since 1994, no statewide GOP candidate has won in CA, unless they were an actionhero. Are you telling me ALL the GOP ran bad campaigns?? Dan Lungren, Bill Simon, Matt Fong, Carly Fiorina, Meg Whitman, Tom McClintok, Tom Campbell, Bill Jones on and on. Some did sure, but something prevents them from getting more then 45% of the vote. The majority wont vote GOP no matter what. Doesnt matter if the GOP candidate is a good conservative like Tom McClintok, a moderate like Fiorina or a liberal like Able Maldonado. GOP need not apply. Period.
Soon the USA will be like CA. I'll be living in Kelowna, BC when that happens with my Loonies that are worth 3 USD.
Teflon93 | 9.28.12 @ 11:59AM
"None of the other GOP candidates in 2008 were electable even slightly." On what basis? None of the other candidates was a lifelong liberal who'd passed and defended socialized medicine.
You people are NUTS.
GobBluthe| 9.28.12 @ 4:29PM
I meant 2012. But 2008 as well. You think anyone in 2008 could have defeated obama? Who?
Ron Ackenberry| 9.29.12 @ 11:58AM
A Repubican certainly could get elected President again.
First the party needs to decide to represent a majority of the voters first, however.
I don't see that happening in the next decade or so.
TLP| 9.28.12 @ 10:30AM
The Contest is at Mr. Purple's House.
John II| 9.28.12 @ 10:53AM
Spike, can you source that quote a little more precisely? I've been saying the same thing since 2009 and related things since 1992, when the degenerate Clintons were put into national office. The chickens have been home roosting for at least 20 years now.
But I'd like to see the rest of the article. The part about the Professor's being "merely" a fool is doubtful on its face, but maybe the larger context of that magnificent excerpt will clarify the matter.
Aristocat| 9.29.12 @ 6:54AM
A vote for Obama is a mortal sin because he promotes partial birth abortion and sodomy among other things....So go ahead & vote for him and go to hell with him...I hope you have your asbestos suit ready....
Alej| 9.29.12 @ 8:09PM
"It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools who in a correctly run system would not qualify to vote, such as those who made him their President.”
Fixed it for you.
Universal suffrage will be the downfall of America. There is no rational reason why the dross of society deserves to have a say in the direction of America.
Do the chimpanzees get a say in the running of the zoo ?
Jack in Wi| 9.28.12 @ 6:48AM
You forgot one statistic 75% of the population want no more wars and they want the troops home. Romney is an idiot for pushing a prowar campaign. Especially when he comes off as an ignorant amaetuer. Romney is letting Obama paint him as the war candidate and himself as the peace candidate. Of course Obama is a warmonger as well, but compared to Romney he looks peaceful.
GobBluthe| 9.28.12 @ 9:31AM
Romney isn't pushing a Pro war campaign. You're a broken record.
vtwin| 9.28.12 @ 9:38AM
Polls taken recently found a 58% majority of Americans believe that Bush's policies are responsible the poor economic conditions the nation is recovering from with only 35% blaming Obama's policies and 66% of Americans believe economic conditions in the nation are improving and will continue to improve under Obama’s policies while an amazing number 29% made-up of the uninformed or partisan hacks unwilling to give credit where credit is due is do are claiming economic conditions have deteriorated since Obama took office and this morning only 3% of the readers of American Spectator actually believe Larry believes “the race is almost certainly something close to a dead heat now.”
GobBluthe| 9.28.12 @ 10:03AM
I dont think the gap is that wide. Then youre suggesting that nearly 1/4 of those who are voting for Romney think Bush is to blame for the current economic problems (of course it ignores why countries like Canada have recovered all their lost jobs and GDP from the recession 2-3 years ago). I think more do blame bush but its mire like 50-45.
vtwin| 9.28.12 @ 11:43AM
“Canada’s financial system has been relatively less affected by the global financial crisis than those of other industrialized countries such as the United States and Great Britain. The World Economic Forum has recently ranked Canada’s banking system as the soundest in the world. ...Canadian banks were less active in the sub-prime lending and securitization activities that are at the centre of the current financial crisis. In 2006, sub-prime loans accounted for less than 5% of new mortgages in Canada, compared to 22% in the United States.” --Canadian Parliament 2008
http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/.....4_05-e.htm
Al Adab| 9.28.12 @ 4:44PM
A sound banking system in Canada makes sense given that they do not suffer the likes of Charlie Wrangel or Barney Frank buying votes with other people's money.
Appleby| 9.28.12 @ 6:55PM
On the flip side, we in Ontario have a 13% sales tax plus an "Eco Tax" that strikes at random, a 5 cent "bag tax" if you want a plastic bag for your shopping, and a LOT of Occupiers to support. If you think anything in Eastern Canada works better than anything in the USA, you have never lived here. I loved Canada when I used to be a visitor. Living here is a whole different ball game.
Alej| 9.29.12 @ 8:24PM
"Polls taken recently... "
The sample was your recent family reunion, which respondents each had "recently" received a free cellphone, and still hold out hope and change that they doan' evah haf to worruh 'bout their mawgage an' thea-yuh gas no mo' ?
Frank Drackman| 9.28.12 @ 9:57AM
Oh Jack, did Net-n'-yahoo say bad things about your Crush, Ahm-gonna-need-a-job...
And why DO you stay in Wisconsin?
Besides the Gay Marriage laws...
Frank
Boar Hunter| 9.28.12 @ 12:40PM
Dear Frank;
Yesterday I told you to look up a website called "Stuff Black People Don't Like" It is a real site and is very good. LOL, As far as the Homo thing, if you followed the threads you would realize that I was talking to the other guy, not you. But thanks, I appreciated the rant.
Frank Drackman| 9.28.12 @ 2:00PM
OK, BH,
and maybe with a Muslim Radical in charge of DOD, FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, I don't want to be seen on any "Stuff Black People Don't Like" sites...
I mean, look what happened to David Koresh...
and I KNOW Black Peoples don't like Shackles, heck, who would??
Frank
Boar Hunter| 9.28.12 @ 3:00PM
LOL, your already on the watch list.
Incidentally, the site is not what you would think and has a lot of valuable information.
Crassus| 9.28.12 @ 10:36AM
As Frank Nitti once said to Nick Moses, "You get stupider every day."
Pathetic.
Mike W| 9.28.12 @ 5:56PM
Romney discussing foreign policy is a disaster for his campaign. The Republican talking points put out by talk radio have been ranting about Lybia, Iran , etc for days and the campaign has gained no traction.
If Romney would discuss how he can put people back to work and how he won't actually kill senior citizens he might have a better chance.
Dennis D| 9.30.12 @ 2:16PM
Obama looks peaceful? When? Where?
squalis| 10.1.12 @ 9:59AM
In Oslo, when he won the Nobel Peace Prize. It appears they don't consider a war on America's freedom or economy as a disqualification.
Appleby| 9.28.12 @ 6:53AM
That is very well put by the Prague newspaper. As for "electability" -- I think this time around it means "has no discernable Christian ties and no opinions on abortion, gay marriage or hedonism of any kind." The Gucci Gulch brigade wants no moral example in the White House -- and somehow has managed to convince Romney to shut up about everything the rest of us think is important in the basic bedrock of America that Obama is steadily blasting away. I am sure he has a list of Do Not Mention subjects. And I have not heard Paul Ryan say anything since he was put in as VP and Gucci Gulch found out he's a devout Catholic. George W. Bush is a devout Christian who stands foursquare for all the values we in the heartland embrace, and he was not afraid to say so. Mitt Romney appears to be afraid to say anything about what he believes, or what gets him up in the morning.
Joellen| 9.28.12 @ 8:38AM
Although I understand what you are saying Appleby, I must ask the obvious - Why are you putting all the onus on Romney/Ryan? Why not on Obama/Biden and those who voted them in. As a Catholic - why arent all the Catholics in US demonstrating against the current admin's assault on our faith. Why arent all Christians saying no to this current admin for their assault on the unborn, family, individualism, etc. No Appleby, I put the onus not on Romney/Ryan I put it on the people. They (57% of Catholics) voted the most pro-death president in our lifetime in. They should not only denounce what they did in 2008, they should make it their mission to atone for it. By me voting Romney I am not abandoning my faith -I remain a Catholic who knows my doctrine. However, if I had voted and continue to vote for Obama - I am a perpetuater of evil. BTW - still not outcry from Hillary/Obama for the "art" in NYC denegrating our LORD & SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST (crickets I am hearing, crickets.)
TLP| 9.28.12 @ 10:31AM
The Contest is at Mr. Purple's House.
PJ| 9.28.12 @ 10:40AM
I absolutely agree with you. To me it was a no-brainer that a Catholic with a properly formed conscience should not have voted for Obama in 2008.
Unfortunately there was a whole generation of laity learning from improperly formed priests, bishops, & sisters. Since Vatican II many of these religious equated abortion with poverty & other social ills which is absolutely incorrect from the official Catholic perspective defined 1000s of yrs ago. (The 10 Commandments & its order are taken very seriously.)
That said there is no standard to judge what is ultimately right or what is ultimately wrong; one decides for themselves. And that works if the conscience has been properly formed. Unfortunately in today's society, many many people have not been taught the real-live facts needed to properly form a conscience. Hence we had typical Catholics, other Christians, & others voting for Obama in 2008.
Appleby| 9.28.12 @ 7:03PM
The onus is always on the challenger to make people aware that he or she can do a better job than the incumbent. That is why there are so many Second Husbands and Third Wives....Newton's Law works in favour of the Devil You Know. The Catholics who are finally starting to catch onto the fact that THIS ONE MEANS WHAT HE IS SAYING are in fact being heard from. It's the bunch who never accepted true Catholicism who are siding with the enemy. I walked in with my eyes open and although some of the rules are a struggle, I obey them and fight those who say they can force me to disobey. As Robert Heinlein said once, you can't enslave an honest man. You can only kill him.
Alej| 9.29.12 @ 8:27PM
Joellen, many Roman Catholics are not Caucasians. Different and conflicting concepts from yours.
RCV| 9.30.12 @ 4:39PM
Ah, Alej, so being a "Caucasian" is the defining characteristic for you.
Martin kzovich| 9.28.12 @ 7:28AM
First off the Republican Establishment are very destructive and in some ways worse than the Communists because they claim to be "Conservative". Lying seems to be the trend these days . It has come to this for me: There is NO media outlet of any kind that I trust. I get my news 90% or more from a variety of web sites.
There is no Poll I have confidence in. I believe the Republican Establishment is upset because Romney may even win. How is that for leadership from way behind?
So no msm no polls just perusing the web and my sense of commonsense
. The Communists are desperate,The Republican Establishment is desperate to skrew us all..
One other point--those who still persist in responding to the lies of trolls are naive and uselessly using valuable time valuable time. By now it should clear that the CPUSA is using every trick in the book because they know they are down. Be very wary of voter fraud.
Crassus| 9.28.12 @ 10:41AM
It's my pet theory in this election that the Republican establishment has just offered up Romney as a sacrificial lamb. They're more than willing to give Obama two terms with the hopes that by 2016 things will be so bad in this country that any Republican can win. That's when they'll nominate their boy, Jeb Boosh, who they wanted to nominate all along in 2012 but couldn't because of the baggage remaining from brother Dubya's screw-ups.
Zeppo| 9.28.12 @ 12:30PM
The Republicans were near death in 2008 and only got a reprieve in 2010 thanks to the excesses of single-party rule by the Democrats. If Mitt bombs in November, I don't see how the GOP is going to remain relevant. See California for a preview.
Dennis D| 9.30.12 @ 2:18PM
If Obama wins I hope he wins back the House too. America needs to suffer more before they wake up.
Mike G| 9.28.12 @ 8:06AM
"So why isn't Mr. Electability 2.0 at least a dozen points ahead of our first anti-American president? (Jimmy Carter only became transparently anti-American after he left office.) I'll give a straightforward answer to that one. I have no idea."
I can give you an idea as to the answer to this question. Romney is not up by 20 points because of his play-it-safe campaign. He jabs Obama once a week on an issue, and then promptly reverts to playing defense against some frivolous LSM attack. He needs to follow Gingrich's playbook and refuse to play the LSM games. Stick to the big issues (foreign policy, economy, jobs, energy) and stay on the attack.
R Martin| 9.28.12 @ 8:24AM
Mr. Thornberry does, in fact, have an idea why Romney is not ahead and he states it in his last sentence. Mitt is just not tough enough. Romney has niceness in his genes, and that is a genetic mutation when dealing with an opponent like Obama.
Von Mises Jr| 9.28.12 @ 8:56AM
Perhaps the problem is that morons like Mr. Dingleberry are writing about the liberal MSM manufactured polls instead of the real problems.
- GDP dropped from 1.7% to 1.3% and would not even be that high if not for Ben "The bank" Bernanke inflating the crap out of the economy
- Manufacturing fell 13% in one month. Another six months of this and we will have two people left building products in the country
- The Middle East is on fire since Obama and Biden rubbed their noses in his success in killing Osama and the Libyan leader. Spiking the football is brash and foolish.
- Obama urinated on the Constitution with oil drilling moratorium, Chrysler bankruptcy, kickbacks and intimidation to pass ObamaCare, the "Dream Act," etc....
And Dingleberry writes a story about the polls. Not only has the left had "Useful idiots."
Since the Democrats do not tell each other the truth, it is up to us and better writers than Larry.
Purp| 9.28.12 @ 9:01AM
The truth everyone knows - they don't like Romney and don't trust him. It's just that simple.
The economy is bad, yep. But Romney scares the bejesus out of Seniors, Women and all minorities. Only fat, old, white men like him. Why I don't have a clue.
PolishKnight| 9.28.12 @ 9:46AM
Purp, when leftists ask me why I don't want to vote Democrat and I simply respond that it's because they hate white guys like me, they respond with their knee jerking: "Fox news brainwashed you to think that!" Yet, it's obvious from the language they, and you, use regularly that you have shoved middle class white males under the bus and then portray them as unreasonable for not trusting YOU anymore.
And for what? What's this to achieve? To make the world into Sweden? (Hint: What's the demographics of Sweden?) Or Germany or France (the 1970's version, of course.) Not only are you untrustworthy when it comes to truly being "inclusive" but the end is impossible to achieve with your means. Your whole agenda is morally and intellectually bankrupt. The only thing you hope to do is win elections. But I ask you:
What's the point of that? I remember in my teen years that we had posters of movie stars on our bedroom walls and sought to imitate likable characters such as Obi Wan or Indiana Jones. But I grew up. For all the talk of folks like me being brainwashed by Foxnews, I am capable of recognizing my own self-interests and owning them including where they lead. You're either a useful unpaid or paid dupe. And not very useful at that as you serve as a Devil's advocate to illustrate our points for us. Please continue posting.
Purp| 9.28.12 @ 10:28AM
You're so funny. Being a white guy just like you are, I HAVE the right to criticize you, because you really don't get what's happening in this country.
You say you do, but you're losing your majority power, and you aren't mending fences with the rest of America before it's too late.
It's guys like you that make the rest of us whites looked down upon. It's not the girls, they get it.
It's the macho "daddy party" types that are clueless.
I'm hoping the white girls will use their ultimate weapon and withhold "attention" until you all wake up!
Corporatocracy is coming, if not already here, and Republicans are happy to assist, at the expense of freedom and democracy - as long as they have it their way.
Trouble is, once the power is gone to Corporate power, THEY will do what the masters dictate - or be gone. And THEY don't get THAT.
PolishKnight| 9.28.12 @ 1:05PM
Purp, I never said you didn't have a right to criticize me. On the contrary, it's the left that bashes white males and denies them rights in the interest of "fairness" and then have the "audacity", to paraphrase Obama, to complain that white males flee the party in droves and are "intolerant".
Let's address your demographic victory dance and reference to "corporate power". Unless you're an elite white male, or even an elite non-white male, you're in the same boat as I am. Being a cheerleader for the captain of the football team to beat up 90 lb weaklings doesn't mean you're going to be exempt, in the long run, as a 90 lb weakling from your beating even if you're a cheerleader. Obama takes contributions from Goldman Sachs and Soros. Since the Democrat party has gained power by race, ultimately that is what it will be about. Not marxism. And Marxists have always wound up just being racists throughout history.
Regarding the "girls". The ones that get it are just getting scraps from the welfare state table and for what? To live in Soviet style conditions? The smart girls dig conservatives with our notion of saving and being reliable. I don't worry about begging for treats but apparently you do. And I'm not even good looking!
Quartermaster| 9.28.12 @ 1:34PM
Corporatocracy is here because of both parties. The Dems whine about it, but the fascist regime that Corporatocracy creates is on the shoulders of the Democrats as well. Obama is playing that game just as Clinton, Carter, LBJ, JFK, FDR and Wilson did. The Corporacrats are just as happy to play the game with a Dem as they are an R.
Dennis D| 9.30.12 @ 2:20PM
Purp
You don't get it. There will be no equality for whites. The Dems will keep passing more freebies to buy votes ON YOUR BACK. Wake up and smell the Matzoh
Von Mises Jr| 9.28.12 @ 11:21AM
PolishKnight, you are wasting your breath on Caliban. As he says "the truth everyone knows....Perp is that simple" or simpleton if you prefer.
junkyard infidel| 9.28.12 @ 11:43AM
"Why I don't have a clue."
of all the ignorant mental flatulence the perp-a-traitor has queefed, this is his most definitive brain fart !
Dai Alanye | 9.28.12 @ 8:37PM
Here we see the reasoning, if such it may be called, as to why a certain segment of voters make such bad choices. To Purp and many like him what counts is not a candidate's ability nor judgment nor character... it is mere likability.
And even this can't be rated, since the candidate is inevitably separated from us by the very media who carry his message. Romney's associates testify to his personal likability, while most knowledgeable sources agree that Obama, despite his smiling public persona, is actually an introvert, cool and withdrawn on the personal level. But the fact he looks so good on TV is sufficient for the Purp-like.
Thus it is for Purp and his fellow emotion-driven voters: Never mind who will make the best executive, never mind the needs of the nation, overlook even their own individual interests -- the superficial apparent likability of Obama is sufficient. Purp will vote not for the best man for the job but instead for the failure who gives him a warm and fuzzy feeling.
Ron Ackenberry| 9.29.12 @ 8:04PM
How many people worried about the GDP, manufacturing, the Medeast or drilling oil today?
And of those how many sat down and did deep analysis of the issues?
And, of those how many decided it was all Obama's fault and so they will change their mind and vote for Romney for whom there are no comparable stats?
Yes, I am saying regular folks don't worry about that stuff, didn't yesterday and won't tomorrow. And, they sure won't use the GDP (etc.) to base their voting decision.
Ron Ackenberry| 9.29.12 @ 8:04PM
How many people worried about the GDP, manufacturing, the Medeast or drilling oil today?
And of those how many sat down and did deep analysis of the issues?
And, of those how many decided it was all Obama's fault and so they will change their mind and vote for Romney for whom there are no comparable stats?
Yes, I am saying regular folks don't worry about that stuff, didn't yesterday and won't tomorrow. And, they sure won't use the GDP (etc.) to base their voting decision.
Purp| 9.28.12 @ 8:59AM
I just noticed - Romney has an overbite!
rightasrain| 9.28.12 @ 9:25AM
Given that Romney was plenty tough about dispatching his opponents in the primaries, one can only conclude that white men still quake at the thought of campaigning against a black man.
Purp| 9.28.12 @ 9:30AM
Romney didn't do it - the SuperPacs did. But they ain't working so well now and aren't as full of money as everyone thought.
I wouldn't throw my money down a rat hole with Willard at the bottom either...
canuckistani| 9.28.12 @ 10:42AM
So true. The parade of stars behind him was probably the worst array of candidates since 1992 Dems.
The difference being Willie had Perot as a (R)ats siphon and Buchanan's indelicate cut didn't help either.
Willard has no foil for BHO this time and his strategy of running out the clock on BHO has turned on him.
Third Templars are resistant to support the cultist, and Zionists like Adelson have probably assessed this pig of a campaign as over.
TLP| 9.28.12 @ 10:33AM
The Contest is at Mr. Purple's House, rightasrain.
Toinfinityandbeyond| 9.29.12 @ 3:17AM
Ryan / Romney
Ryan / Romney
Ryan / Romney
Sweet Jesus~
I can't stop laughing.
lol
Dennis D| 9.30.12 @ 2:22PM
I do not think there is any fear campaigning against a black man. I think there are weak White men in media who fear covering a black President fairly. They fear telling the truth about his record. They were probably the water boy for the High School basketball team.;
Al Adab| 9.28.12 @ 9:30AM
Voters cast their ballots based not on their philosophy or any consistent positional analysis but rather on their emotional response to what they see and hear. This is why The Left encourages emotionalism rather than analysis in discussing issues, candidates and "solutions". We educate our students to emote, get in touch with their feelings rather than use logic and insight to evaluate their beliefs and life. Making public policy or selecting political leaders through emotional appeals has led us down the wrong path. Time to take a good look at ourselves.
Purp| 9.28.12 @ 10:31AM
Is that why Bush was able to destroy John Kerry, a war hero, with degrading ads and calling him a traitor? Was that careful analysis of the issues?
"He voted for it, before he voted against it" - that's careful analysis?
"Windsurfing flip-flopping around" ads - that's incisive analytical debate?
Get a grip. It's Politics. Get over it.
Al Adab| 9.28.12 @ 11:03AM
You make my point. Elections are decided by perception, not reality.
John Kerry a war hero? You truely are delusional.
vtwin| 9.28.12 @ 12:28PM
“War hero” is a subjective term but any objective comparison between Kerry’s and Bush’s conduct during the Vietnam war, Kerry served his nation honorably in war, received high praise from his commanders, silver star and bronze star, was wounded three times in battle, three purple hearts. were as Bush avoided service in Vietnam through daddy’s contacts, got drunk repeatedly, and no one in his unit remembers seeing him after his unit was redeploy, could possibly mistake Bush over Kerry as a war hero.
Zeppo| 9.28.12 @ 12:33PM
Slanging Bush doesn't lift up Kerry. You keep reinforcing Al's point.
vtwin| 9.28.12 @ 12:38PM
No, but I do so enjoy it!
vtwin| 9.28.12 @ 12:37PM
And the time Bush spend in the National Guard is considered the high point his of experience with military matters; it deteriorated rapidly after he assumed the role of Commander in Chief.
Al Adab| 9.28.12 @ 1:11PM
Which at least compares favorably with the military service record of Democrat party presidents Clinton and Obama. It is a no win game for DEMs (or lefties) to attempt disparagment of service records of anyone who actually joined up.
vtwin| 9.28.12 @ 12:41PM
Also, would it not be more accurate to say: Elections are decided by perception, not necessarily reality.
Nick| 9.28.12 @ 12:52PM
JF Kerry lied about his 3 Purple Hearts, vtwit.
Kerry is the equivalent of Maj. Frank Burns putting in for a Purple Heart because he received "shell fragments" during an artillery attack. Except, they were egg shells in his eye, when he dived under a table in the mess tent!
His Silver & Bronze Star medals were awarded fraudulently, too.
These facts were reported accurately during the campaign by the Swift-Boat Veterans for Truth, by the way. Weren't you paying attention?
Kerry then came home and grossly and traitorously SLANDERED his fellow Viet Nam veterans, falsely claiming war atrocities that NEVER happened.
It figures that this douchebag is a hero of yours, vtwit.
Quartermaster| 9.28.12 @ 1:38PM
Few non-flyers realize that the AC Dubya flew actually put him at higher risk than Kerry was in while in Vietnam. Dubya also volunteered for Vietnam and was turned down because of the aircraft he flew in the Air Guard were no longer being used in Vietnam. From what I have been given to understand, the AF quit using them in Vietnam shortly after he put in the paperwork volunteering to go.
vtwin| 9.28.12 @ 2:31PM
The F-102 the plane Bush “risked his life flying” was withdrawn from operational service in Vietnam before Bush enter the Texas Air National Guard in 1968, the Texas Air National Guard NEVER deploy units to Vietnam, and if Bush wanted to " volunteer" he could have transferred to active duty as there were opportunities aplenty for young men in Vietnam in 1968.
Mike W| 9.28.12 @ 5:59PM
"the AC Dubya flew put him at higher risk than Kerry in Vietnam" - one of the dumbest things I have read in years.
Prove that with statistics. You won't because you can't.
I am glad Kerry didn't win but trashing his service with nonsense does not elevate Bush.
vtwin| 9.28.12 @ 2:40PM
Nick, how do you know these details about Kerry's service in Vietnam? Were you serving alongside Kerry in Vietnam? Or did you hear about Kerry's service in Vietnam from the fat guy on the radio while you were going down on your boyfriend?
Nick| 9.28.12 @ 7:08PM
Did I hit a nerve, vtwit?
I know these details because I listened to the men who served with Kerry the Coward (a.k.a. Maj. Burns) and read the after-action reports of the incidents that Kerry used to put in for his fraudulent Purple Hearts. Have you?
As far as the fat guy on the radio goes, sorry, but I don't listen to Ed Putz.
And quit projecting your perverted fantasies onto me, sicko.
PolishKnight| 9.28.12 @ 3:47PM
I remember John "the loser" Kerry bellyaching about the Swift Boaters. Yet, all the swift boaters were doing was what Kerry celebrated back in the 1960's: exercising their freedom of expression. When Kerry threw his medals over the white house wall (oh, wait, he later said he threw SOMEONE else's medals over, what a joke) and bashed his fellow vets, he and his fellow anti-American communists sneered that the right had to respect their "freedoms". Yet, isn't that just what the Swift Vets did albeit far more graciously than Kerry?
It truly says a lot about the left that they would run a Vietnam war protestor as a war hero with a VP ambulance chasing trial lawyer. Yeah, that's the ticket! Literally, that was the ticket. Who got into their head that this was a viable candidate to run?
Looking back, it makes Bob Dole and even McCain seem reasonable to run by contrast.
Al Adab| 9.28.12 @ 4:48PM
Kerry joined up for the perceived political advantage a veteran gains when seeking elective office. He turned coat when he came to believe that anti-war activity would gain him more votes than honorable service. The guy tried to have it both ways and it bit him.
Alej| 9.29.12 @ 8:46PM
"Kerry served his nation honorably in war, received high praise from his commanders, silver star and bronze star, "
As Kerry's slimey VP candidate said during the campaign, "You want to know about John Kerry, talk to the men he was with in Viet Nam with."
Somebody did, and the result was the book "Unfit For Command."
Due to incredible and unbelievably embarrassing procedures within US naval policies, Kerry was able to write up HIS OWN commendations for medals, and his POS CO signed off on them.
Later confronted with the disgusting travesty, the CO naively said, "I just didn't know naval officers would do such a thing as write up false narratives of their own commendations."
Look it up or read the book. In the other service branches one is NEVER allowed to write up their own recommendations for decorations. And officers in the other branches would never stoop to such a cowardly and self-serving thing in the first place.
BTW, the purple heart recommendations were written up by the same person, and the people who served with him noted that the "wounds" were A) small, and B) self-inflicted.
Read the book.
spike59| 10.1.12 @ 6:01AM
'honorably?' HARDLY...he lied repeatedly and often about his 'exploits', and returned home to shamelessly slander his fellow troops in a naked quest for political office..as for his Purple Hearts?
-from the Boston Globe:
"'There were an awful lot of Purple Hearts — from shrapnel; some of those might have been M-40 grenades,' said George Elliott, Kerry's commanding officer. 'The Purple Hearts were coming down in boxes. Kerry, he had three Purple Hearts. None of them took him off duty. Not to belittle it, that was more the rule than the exception." To illuminate this fact, my best friend's father was awarded a Purple Heart-for a wound that led to hepatitis and a medical discharge: he snagged his left butt-cheek on a nailhead in the outhouse
spike59| 10.1.12 @ 6:04AM
Bush was able to destroy Kerry as a traitor merely by pointing out the truth: Kerry shamelessly stabbed his comrades-in-arms with slanders and lies told UNDER OATH, and embraced the supporters of the VietCong as his true buddies
Frank Drackman| 9.28.12 @ 9:43AM
and 100% of the starters from the 1938 World Series are dead...
C'mon, this is a Joke, right, "Larry Thornberry"???
Hey-Zeuss, Alfred E. Newman has more Gravity-tas...
Or some kind of twisted Psychology experiment, like that one where nice little old ladies electrocuted test subjects who couldn't put the square pegs in the square holes(I never could do that)
So Mr "Thornberry" if that really is your name, Well Played Sir, Well Played.
Frnak
Who Knows?| 9.28.12 @ 10:59AM
I live in Outer Mongolia. I think I’ll take a day trip to the USA and be a thousand eyes of light, to absorb the REAL ongoing state of the presidential race.
What a spectacle!
The mongrel, Obama, is apparently winning, and daily increasing his lead. The member of a fringe religion, the Mormon Romney, is doing his best, but as is not only normal, but the always already NEW normal, as the challenger, he’s fighting at a severe disadvantage.
The incumbent half white half Kenyan, BHO, despite the pungent stench of mendacity, on ALL issues, has his revolutionary guard, the so-called mainstream media, killing off those who are trying to expose the truth. So, the Mitt fella is mired down in mere reactivity.
Like a fly caught in a spider web, struggle as he might, his strength is utterly inadequate to escape. Thus, he spends his power, a la that McCain guy, trying to lose gracefully.
Of course, he’s got to put up a winning attitude, and maybe he even believes he’s got a chance, and he should win. Why, things couldn’t be much worse for Obama, and I KNOW it’s all his fault, so why shouldn’t the voters throw him out?
But, it’s all react, react, react for Romney.
All defense, all the time. No offence---that’s Romney!
Romney doesn’t get it, that the election is NOT about him, or Obama. Hence, he continues the GOP tradition of being a “good” loser.
It’s so edifying, to see him fail to use all his power.
Teflon93 | 9.28.12 @ 11:58AM
The electability myth was created by the MittBots, aided and abetted by those pundits who have claimed to be conservative for about ten minutes (Jennifer Rubin et al), and nurtured by those Rockefeller Republicans who believe the biggest threat to the Republic at this juncture in history is from the Tea Party, comprised as it is of so many non-Ivy Leaguers who don't possess perfectly-creased pants.
The question remains: when will conservatives eject the Rockefeller Rump and run their own party?
Purp| 9.28.12 @ 5:00PM
Conservadums have no guts. They don't really believe in anything except abortion.
John II| 9.29.12 @ 12:14AM
" They don't really believe in anything except abortion."
Yet again (the last word pronounced to rhyme with "a pain"--it's the Brit in me), Purp, you have it precisely backwards. We gutless Conservanda (you got the plural wrong too, Purp--more of that language trouble) don't believe in abortion. You moronic Leftenda believe in abortion.
In fact, you love abortion. You're passionately fond of killing pesky babies, especially the very late-term variety.
The Professor takes it all a step further to champion outright infanticide. There's something about human beings that he really doesn't like, and it's not their fallen nature. It's more like . . . their existence.
And now back to "Frankenstein" (1931), a fair if very loose rendition of the Mary Shelley novel. It's a fascinating story--all about progressives eager to advance humanity by killing humans.
Kingofthenet| 9.28.12 @ 2:40PM
You see this is how Conservatives think... John Kerry, a silver-star medal recipient war(and war protest) leader is 'foreign', meanwhile 'W' who was protecting the skies over Texas from VC invasion is a hero...amazing really.
Dennis D| 9.30.12 @ 2:24PM
Kerry had no idea he was headed to Nam At the time of his enlistment Swift Boat Duty was off the coast where N Vietnam had no navy. Kerry got the shock of his life when they sent Swift Boats to the Mekong River.
Kingofthenet| 9.28.12 @ 2:40PM
You see this is how Conservatives think... John Kerry, a silver-star medal recipient war(and war protest) leader is 'foreign', meanwhile 'W' who was protecting the skies over Texas from VC invasion is a hero...amazing really.
John II| 9.29.12 @ 12:25AM
Stop repeating yourself, Kingie, especially when the comment you're repeating is idiotic. It's bad manners.
That's the trouble with you smug lefties--no manners. There would be far fewer lefties in this world if they'd had fathers who showed them enough affection to slap the shit out of them.
And now back to "Ship of Fools" (1965), an interesting anticipation of the Obamanation, based on the Katherine Anne Porter novel.
KyMouse| 9.28.12 @ 3:22PM
Good, attractively designed anti-Obama bumper stickers, T-shirts, buttons, signs, etc. are at http://www.romney2012store.com/
They make products only for Republican candidates. Nice assortment of "We DID Build This" products, as well as "Defeat Obama - Restore America" and "Mitt for President," etc.
Ron Ackenberry| 9.29.12 @ 11:51AM
No you didn't. That's a lie.
Cpm| 9.28.12 @ 4:13PM
What a bunch of pantywaists. If Obama is as bad as everyone is saying, do your part and vote for the other guy. That's electability.
That's how it works. If you don't vote you only have yourself to blame.
Kingofthenet| 9.28.12 @ 5:45PM
President Obama was handed a BIG mess of an Economy on Election Day, He should echo what Former President Clinton said, that NO President could clean up that mess completely in four years.The President should also be honest and say, I would have preferred to take my time with the various stimulus packages, to reinforce what worked and stop what didn't, but the size of the problem meant I had to go "All In" right away or risk an uncontrollable collapse of the Economy and when you have to work fast like that, there will be problems.
As far as Mitt goes, his plan simply doesn't add up, cut taxes AND reduce the Deficit? how does that work?
gray man| 9.28.12 @ 10:44PM
nonsense
Dennis D| 9.30.12 @ 2:26PM
Mitt has a proven financial track record. His expertise is well documented. Obama? He and his posse of Rahm-Daley-Blago and Slum Lord Valerie Jarrett made of mess in Chicago. Obama is making a mess in America. We may never recover.
Kingofthenet| 9.28.12 @ 5:46PM
Man Murders ENTIRE family out of fear President Obama will be reelected...
http://thegrio.com/2012/09/28/.....-election/
Nick| 9.28.12 @ 7:12PM
thegrio.com?
Is that like TheOnion.com, KooK?
gray man| 9.28.12 @ 10:43PM
I believe this article is a little bit nonsense. I believe this will be like Reagan / carter. I believe Romney is going to stomp obummer into the dirt, just like Reagan did to carter.
John II| 9.29.12 @ 12:17AM
Me too--with or without the correct capitalization.
Ron Ackenberry| 9.29.12 @ 11:50AM
Wanna' bet?
Kingofthenet| 9.29.12 @ 2:07AM
Ann just said Mitt might not be mentally well...
Toinfinityandbeyond| 9.29.12 @ 3:18AM
Ryan / Romney
Ryan / Romney
Ryan / Romney
Sweet Jesus~
I can't stop laughing.
lol
Ron Ackenberry| 9.29.12 @ 11:48AM
There are a lot of similarities between GW and WM.
Both have fathers who were politicians, both are extremely rich, both went to Harvard, were (nominally) in business, both Governors etc.
The differences are notable, too. In particular folks LIKED GW. They would invite him to the Saturday BBQ, they liked his jokes even if he botched it, viewed him as "down home".
Not so with WM. He is too entrenched in his rich guy arrogance and superiority. People, essentially, don't like him and in part that's because they feel he doesn't 'like' us.
You know, he doesn't like the 47% (or more) of Americans he views as dependent moochers. He doesn't worry about the folks who aren't rich like him.
That's OK. Except, there are many millions not like him. I would guess a majority of Americans are not like him and thus don't like him.
I am comfortable suggesting Obama will get over 300 electoral votes and Romney less than 200.
William L. Gensert| 9.29.12 @ 12:56PM
Give up -- Barack Obama has won. With the election only weeks away, it is clear from recent swing state polling that Mitt Romney has lost this election. According to the Quinnipiac numbers, in the battleground states of Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania, the president is ahead by 10%, 9% and 12%, respectively.
Romney can't win. Just ask any journalist or newscaster. He is toast -- stick a fork in him.
Bull...
If anything, the closer we get to Election Day, the more apparent it is that Obama is not only losing, but losing big.
Read more of my article: http://www.americanthinker.com.....z27sXgr8LJ
FiddlerBob| 9.29.12 @ 1:04PM
Shouldn't the first principle of electability be whether or not one is Constitutionally eligible?
Romney is. Obama isn't. Let's start here.
Martin kzovich| 9.29.12 @ 2:54PM
T he idea that Romney is unelectable is a joke when you loo9k at Obama. This guy is the great fraud ever in our history. He should be impeached --a trojan horse for foreign interests. I did not support Romney at first and I do not see him as some G-D but compared to Obama he is a G-D. A very small one.
Belianis | 9.29.12 @ 3:35PM
The Tea Party was underestimated in 2010. Gov Wilson of Wisconsin and Chick-Fil-A were underestimated in 2012. The Left seems to be very predisposed to underestimating its foes.
Theolonious| 9.29.12 @ 4:53PM
YES INDEED
Question if either Political Party has genuine HUMAN BEINGS in charge. THE MOST CONTEMTIOUSLY CORUPT, MORALESS SOULS FROM HELL CRAFTS THE DEM MESSAGE. WHICH CONSISTENTLY PREYS UPON THE MOST BASE OF HUMAN INSTINCT,,,,, FEAR!!!
Republicans merely have to tell the truth. STOMP ON SOME TOES & TELL THE TRUTH. Why is it so hard to reach down, realize ya got a pair, (be they ovaries or testicles) AND SOUND OFF LIKE YA GOT A PAIR. Fk no the MEDIA and THE LIBERAL TWITS of Academia are not ever going to like you. YOU ARE NOT FROM THE PIT OF HELL ARE YOU? GOP has dashed my hopes against the rocks surrounding the shores of the ocean of despair ever since RONALD REAGNA left office. WAKE THE @#$@ UP! But then we broach the SAD TRUTH….RONALD REAGAN WAS NOT A REPUBLICAN by all previous nominate-able GOP STANDARDS, Was he
Oldefarte| 9.30.12 @ 9:26PM
http://youtu.be/brDZJA8j-8c
clemsberry| 9.30.12 @ 9:37PM
CAPITALISM---businesses have a sale to generate revenue, lower prices=more revenue.....lower taxes=more revenue....SOCIALISM---raise price=less revenue,,,,,raise taxes=less revenue. simple?
Parker| 9.30.12 @ 10:01PM
(Jimmy Carter only became transparently anti-American after he left office.) I'll give a straightforward answer to that one. I have no idea.
I can answer your dilemma in two words: Public Education. Tear down that icon and we can begin to rebuild the social destruction wrought by the father of fascism, Woodrow Wilson. Until we dismantle the Public Schools, this nightmare will never end.