The American Spectator : A Black Flag Day for America

drudge ette obama| 9.12.12 @ 6:26AM

I am disgusted that while radical Islamists were attacking these embassies, that Obama was playing around with the Pimp with the Limp, and Biden was cozying up with the biker broad.

Israel needs our public support. It may have it with many of our people, but not the Democrats and not with our foolish and childish president.

Where is the American Jewish position on this very important subject. Where is South Florida on this issue? Why is "never again" lost on the American Jewish population?

drudge ette obama| 9.12.12 @ 6:27AM

Hillary Clinton is an absolute failure as Secretary of State. We all know she aligns with the Palestinians and has contempt for Israel. Just ask Dick Morris what she said to him once.

drudge ette obama| 9.12.12 @ 6:29AM

Just in case you didn't see this rant - here it is

http://cofcc.org/2012/09/dnc-f.....an-tirade/

Jack in Wi| 9.12.12 @ 7:35AM

If you don't like what is happening in Cairo or in Libya leave and cut all foreign aid. As for Nutanyahu the old war crimial, racist, and terrorist, good. He has been trying to push us into doing his crimes and wars long enough. It is time to kiss the Israeli's goodbye as well. They spy on us at will, sell our secrets to whoever pays the most money, and continually interfere in our political life by bribing blackmailing, and intimidating our political class using our own laundered foreign aid money. Remember the USS Liberty.

Our friend above Ross wants us to kill people attacking our embassy like they were dogs. Our embassies have been attacked many times and not just in Muslim countries, over the decades. We have have never done as old Ross wants. It isn't worth it. Close up the embassies and leave if the personel can't be protected. It isn't worth going to war over. The more we stick our noses into the business of these countries the more enemies we make. The blood of every innocent we kill leads to many more terrorists spring up against us. Every empire in the history of the world has crashed and burned eventually do to fiscal bankruptcy and over reach. We have reached that stage now. Bring home the troops, close up the empire, and lets get back to restoring America.

Darin| 9.12.12 @ 8:29AM

Jack in Wi refuses to understand that Muslims want non-Muslims converted, subjagated, or dead. There is no other option. Islam has been at war with the west since the religion was founded, and Islam has been at war with America since our nation was founded. The Barbary Pirates were Muslim raiders, and their preying on commercial shipping persisted until Jefferson built up the Navy and sent the Marines "to the shores of Tripoli."

Grzmlyk| 9.12.12 @ 11:21AM

Jack's philosophy - and it is classic libertarianism - reminds me of the old adage: "If rape is inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it."

And if Muslims want to annihilate Israel, who is Israel to complain? Netanyahu is far worse than the islamicists, for whom a modern caliphate is the furthest thing from their minds. They just want to co-exist with non-Muslims, and if we weren't so gosh darned imperial, and didn't stick our hands into the hornet's nest, we wouldn't get stung.

So what if the hornet's nest begins to crowd out all else? Perish the thought! If we just stick to our knitting, it'll never happen. Jack promises.

And when Islam begins subjugating America in earnest, well, who are we to object? God forbid we crank up the war machine to defend ourselves.

It isn't worth it.

Jack in Wi| 9.12.12 @ 9:05AM

Many millions of Christians lived under Muslim control for many centuries in Greece, Serbia, Hungry, Turkey, Romania, Bulgaria, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Palistine, and Iraq. They weren't forcibly converted except in rare circumstances. So your whole premise is a lie.

WRTolkas| 9.12.12 @ 9:09AM

Yes Jack - they lived as slaves and second class citizens.

Jack in Wi| 9.12.12 @ 9:40AM

You mean like you treat the Palistinians now? Anyhow they were not forced to convert in most instances, so I am right. We empower the radicals by our policy and interference in the business of these countries. They hate us because of that reason.

Stkman| 9.12.12 @ 10:11AM

Jack,
We've supported the Palestinians and have given them billions of dollars in aid. Have you ever bothered to ask why none of their Arab brothers help them? Did you not see what the Palestinians did to Jordan or Beirut? They are their own worst enemy. They have been offered deal after deal and more than once offered everything they asked for and still they refused it. Face it Jack, you are a bigot and an anti-semite and nothing more.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 10:16AM

For the same reason that Obama's brother didn't bother to call him for help with family medical bills. Obama's brother called the guy who made the movie 2016 for help, not his brother.

So why would the Arabs pay to support their Palestinian "brothers" when they can con Hillary into doing it. With the help of Huma Abedin, Hillary's Chief of Staff who is the daughter of one of the founders of the Muslim Brotherhood!

That's burning coffee, you are smelling!

Don't Tread On Me!

Jack in Wi| 9.12.12 @ 10:35AM

I am no antisemite. In fact I love the Jews. I want them following the Torah and Commandments God gave them. God tells the Jews in the Book of Leviticus. " To love your neighbors as yourselves." Farther along in the Book God tells them. " To treat the aliens and strangers among you well. "
In the book of Exodus God tells His chosen people to. " Treat the aliens and strangers well for you were once aliens and strangers in the land of Egypt. " Let Israel be a light upon the nations instead of the blight and cancer to the world it is now. Follow the Torah and love your neighbors as yourselves.

God gave the Ten Commandments to his chosen people who gave them to the whole world. Our Zionist friends have forgotten a few of them.
Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bare false witness.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors' property.
Return to God. Return to the Torah. Follow the 10 Commandments. Shalom.

Alan| 9.12.12 @ 11:14AM

"I am no antisemite. In fact I love the Jews"

Jack in Wi.| 9.10.11 @ 10:04AM
"Whatever good individual Jews have done in the world pails in comparission to the bad of the last 200 years. Atheism, communism, Socialism, Nuclear Weapons, expansionist Zionism, and nuclear blackmail"

Yeah, Jack the ass just loves Jews.

Jack in Wi| 9.12.12 @ 4:47PM

Alan: That is exactly what I mean. All these horrors on the world were spread by Jews who abandoned God, The Torah, and the 10 Commandments.

Return to traditional Judaism if not the true Savior and Messiah of the whole world Jesus Christ. Christ gave us the 2 great Commandments.
Love God with your whole heart and whole soul.
Love your neighbors as yourselves.
No real Jew should have any trouble with those. They come right from the Torah.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 11:23AM

Jack it is NOT "Thou shalt not kill"

It is "Thou shalt not murder."

The righteous taking of life is not a problem.

You may freely, easily, and happily light up the guy pointing a gun at your child.

There ain't no hell in righteous killing. That's a recent liberal bible re-write.

Listen carefully and you can also hear them say that the Bible doesn't say no homosexuality. Which in fact it is quite clear and unequivocal about how it is wrong.

And how the heck confused are you telling people to read the Torah, most famous anti-semite on the TAS?

We are not drunk, are you?

Or have you gotten your login id's mixed up?

DTOM

Surly Curmudgen| 9.12.12 @ 3:13PM

It was "thou shalt not murder" to kill is sometimes necessary. The Jews in Israel followed the Torah and were murdered for their kindness. Now it's trust but verify. The Israelis should assert their claim to the entire 1920 mandate. Look that up sometime Jack.

Grzmlyk| 9.12.12 @ 11:23AM

The apotheosis of naivete leads to the martyrdom of the foolish.

GGM| 9.13.12 @ 4:02AM

I know you are the sharpest tool in the shed so I wouldn't expect you to know there is no "Palestinians" . The Jewish people cannot be occupiers of their own land. By international law, the Jewish National Homeland consists of the present day Israel, the so-called "West Bank" or "Palestine”, Western Jordan, Gaza, The Golan Heights, and Southern Lebanon from the Israeli border north to the Litani River. Any non-Jews who live there are not indigenous people, but predominantly trespassers. They are Egyptians, Syrians, and Arabs from the Arabian Peninsula. They were brought in by the evil empire Little Britain, who violated their mandate to govern the Jewish National Homeland while encouraging and facilitating Jewish people to return to their eternal homeland. Once there were sufficient infrastructure and a larger Jewish population, the British were by international law compelled to get their imperialist behinds out the Jewish National Homeland. But just as they have done in countless other locations, they persecuted the indigenous people (Jews), created dissension by bringing in trespassing Arabs, and only were concerned with what benefited their filthy little island. They are the greatest war criminals in world history. There is no, and never was any people or any ethnic group of Arab Muslims which were referred to as Palestinians. They don't even refer to themselves as "Palestinians" in Arabic. Instead of displaying your ignorance, read about the Treaty of San Remo

GGM| 9.13.12 @ 4:06AM

This comment is directed to Jack Hitler.

JP| 9.12.12 @ 10:32AM

So you endorse Dhimitude? BTW, for the last 40 years Christians and Jews living in Muslim lands have either been murdered (Pakistan, Lebanon, Egypt, and Niger) or driven out (Yeman, Iraq). Another thing, West Bank is under UN Control, not Isreali control. If the Palestinians live in sqaulor, blame the Palestinians and UN. BTW, Isreal provides all of the utilities to the West Bank and Gaza.

SCPOret| 9.12.12 @ 1:21PM

And you forget Spain where the jews and Christians were forced to convert or lose their lives. Later the Spainiards continued the practice in the inquistion as regards Jews

Jack in Wi| 9.12.12 @ 8:33PM

You got it wrong about Spain. When the Muslims conquered Spain their North African Jewish allies rode right beside them The Muslim rulers of Spain used their Jewish subjects as very usefull middle men and oversears of their Christian population. They squeezed the Christians very well for the Muslims and almost always lived better then the Christians.

The same was true in the Ukraine and Poland after the Polish kingdom welcomed the Jews into the country. Abba Eban in his " History of the Jews "tells how the Polish nobility loved having Jewish estate mangers. They pushed the peasents much harder then the Christian managers. They also were pretty rough loan sharks to the Polish and Ukrainian peasentry. Eban thought that all this contributed to the antisemitic residue in these areas.

Jews were not subject to the Inquisition and were expelled from Spain in 1492 along with the Muslims. There was little forced conversion. They were given th option to convert and stay or else take their property and leave. The numbers are in dispute but between 25 and 75% converted.

Minuteman78| 9.12.12 @ 1:46PM

Jack,
I'd respond more, but you're such an example of walking fertilizer, it's just not worth the time. Jackass.

Dave Williams| 9.12.12 @ 2:20PM

Right you are, sir. I support free speech as much as the next guy, but I wouldn't protest too much if the webmaster on this site banned JackHole's vile idiocy.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 8:56AM

They ARE Dogs, Jack. WILD dogs. And some of them, like the one in the Oval Office, like to Eat Dogs, as they watch The Most Beautiful Goat Contest, before heading back home to Beat their Wife, and Bury their Daughter up to her Neck, before Killing her with a rock, because she let him rape her.

These are not the Ancient Sumarians who worshipped the Anunnaki, left us their Knowledge on their Ancient Sand-Scripts, and Created Mankind's 1st True Civilization.

These Creatures are more akin to the Apes at the Beginning of 2001 A Space Oddesy, Piranha, the Rats at the Dump, and South American Fire Ants.

Your incessant obsession with the Jews is bad enough.

But, when you throw in your Schoolgirl Crush on this Cancererous Tumor, that seeks to consume everything in its path, and plunge Civilization BACKWARDS 1500 Years?

You might wanna look, next time you're standing in front of the Bathroom Mirror, and I mean LOOK, for a really, really, REALLY Long Time at the person looking back at you.

Cause, you really are one Fcked Up Human Being.

Your Pals, over there, would Gut you like a Deer, Cut your Head off with a Dull Knife, and stuff your Dick in your Mouth, if they ever got the chance, and everybody knows it.

Even you.

Go get some Help.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 8:57AM

Jack: The terrorists attacking US people and property are not "innocents."

The question of whether we have too much presence overseas, whether militarily or diplomatically, is separate from whether we should adequately defend our people and our sovereignty once we are there.

Your comments about Netanyahu are reprehensible, again regardless of your (moronic) view of what our proper relationship with Israel should be.

William L. Gensert| 9.12.12 @ 9:35AM

What some people do not understand is the reason these things happen and will continue to happen is that unfortunately, the only people afraid of Barack Obama are Americans.

http://www.americanthinker.com/william_l_gensert/

Gary B| 9.12.12 @ 3:50PM

William, I'm not afraid of Obama. I'm afraid of all the people who are voting for him... again. I can only speculate they're voting against the Romney, since the left has done a brilliant job of positioning Republicans as money-grubbing murders. And, to vastly complicate matters, Republicans simply refuse to fight back. Enter the Tea Party...

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 4:07PM

When the Government fears the people, it's called: Liberty.

When the People fear the Government?

It's called TYRANNY.

Jack in Wi| 9.12.12 @ 9:51AM

Who said they were innocents? I said we don't shoot on crowds if we can help it. The Libyan forces were fighting with the gunman. Some Americans got killed in the crossfire. What are we supposed to do go to war with the Libyan government we just installed? Our whole policy in the Middle East has been a disaster for decades. we have no business there fighting nonsense wars for decades for no sane reason. We have made everything we touch worse. Lets leave and let them work it out for themselves.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 10:20AM

Jack, jack, jack....

Except that they are at war with us, Einstein.

What the hell where you doing on 9/11/2001? Waiting to board a plane with a box cutter?

That wasn't in the middle East. And it was eleven years to the day...they love to play with dates!

Are you really THAT stupid?

DTOM

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 10:32AM

Jack, a Libyan government official has said that he believes the Libyan security forces told the terrorists where to find the Ambassador. (See update in article.)

Jack in Wi| 9.12.12 @ 10:43AM

Fine Ross lets just leave. In Afganistan everyday some of our so called supporters turn their guns on us and shoot. Lets get the hell out of these places. We had no business being in most of them. They are just going to have to figure it out for themselves. Enough American blood and treasure has been spilt for nonsense. As much as a love being here with all my pals, I have work to do. Shalom.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 11:10AM

OK, let's leave. But before we leave, do we allow our property to be invaded and our people to be terrorized and killed?

Jack London| 9.12.12 @ 11:40AM

Embassies aren't military bases - how do you propose we protect them?

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 12:21PM

Embassies are the sovereign territory of that nation. As for "not military bases", embassy protection has, almost for our entire history, been the job of the United States Marine Corps.

Jack London| 9.12.12 @ 12:58PM

Sure they are sovereign territory. But that's not much good in unstable countries when events move fast. How many marines should we have had in Libya just in case some idiot made a stupid video? You can see why we prefer to prop up dictators - at least they keep our diplomats safe.

Jack in Wi| 9.12.12 @ 3:40PM

We have closed embassies dozens of times in countries that have unstable conditions or because we don't like the government there. How is this any different? Just get the people out and forget about it. We should have probably been out of there long ago. We didn't have diplomatic relations with Libya for years. We haven't had diplomatic relations with places like Myumar, North Korea, Cuba, and other places for decades.

Jack London| 9.12.12 @ 4:20PM

Well Jack - you know full well why we are in Libya and not some of these other countries. Geopolitics and oil.

MK48| 9.12.12 @ 7:26PM

Ross...... where are they ? I herd that we are sending 50 Marines over there for protection.

A little late don't you think.......oh.... I wonder what the engagement policy is.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 1:53PM

Oh, Jack,

With stalwart US Marines with rational rules of engagement that permit defense in the form a single warning shot followed by fusillades of direct, deadly fire from protected locations strategically set through out the embassy.

That's how.

One defensive response like that and no where in the world will there be another attack on a US Embassy.

And if I were a US Ambassador, I would not set foot in country if that was not how my country was going to defend me and my staff.

I am not naive - sadly, Ambassador Stevens didn't require that. Pity the fool -- all that Peace Corps service didn't stand him well.

DTOM

Surly Curmudgen| 9.12.12 @ 3:27PM

From reading what Ambassador Stevens had to say upon being assigned to Libya, He suffered from a form of Stockholm syndrome. He very much identified with the people of North Africa to the detriment of the us. This is NOT to condone his murder but rather the action/inaction's of our State department.

Surly Curmudgen| 9.12.12 @ 3:29PM

I had that in upper case US as in United States

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 5:16PM

That was very curmudgeonly of you. It's true that the guy was a liberal, but that doesn't mean that his appreciation for people over there came at the detriment of the US. I think that's quite an unfair comment, particularly to make of a man who was just murdered.

MK48| 9.12.12 @ 7:29PM

I solute you SIR....I say take no prisoners.

MK48| 9.12.12 @ 7:30PM

The solute was for DTOM........

Occam's Tool| 9.14.12 @ 6:29PM

By enforcing the rule of law with overwhelming military force, Jacks. Letting a country know that, say, Bengazi will be levelled if our embassy is touched, or that the Aswan Dam will be destroyed if our embassy is touched, concentrates the mind wonderfully.

Yes, we should remove our embassy from Libya---After we butcher a sufficient number of their civilians. And, of course, we should have supported Gadaffi and Mubarak. Play ball with us, we back you, mess with us, we kill you.

Geopolitics ain't beanbag.

Neither of you Jacks would I trust with the protection of my children. Neither of you clowns have the common sense G-d gave a brain damaged flatworm, or even C. Elegans.

Stormy| 9.12.12 @ 10:50AM

The reason we are where we are in today's world is that Jack in WI reflects the beliefs of our president and his administration. Change the name on the posts from Jack in WI to Barack Obama, and they would be exactly what you would get from Obama, if he had no filtering.

Gary B| 9.12.12 @ 3:54PM

Ross, it's far too muddled to know, but I suspect the security forces gave up the Americans to save themselves from getting shot. Hillary's State Department is ultimately responsible. That their embassy was not well protected is obvious.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 11:27AM

They killed our Ambassador. They need to die. Lessons are best learned on skin. Pain is an excellent teacher.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 1:05PM

If our Fathers were still in charge?

Both of these places would, already, be laid to Waste.

But then, our Fathers were MEN.

Al Adab| 9.12.12 @ 1:07PM

Killing an ambassador is and has long been recognized as an act of war. At least the Libyan govt. was good enough to issue an apology TO us. On the other hand, our govt. apologizes to Egypt for making the mob upset. Is this the foreign policy and world view we want from an American administration?

CJW| 9.12.12 @ 1:59PM

Why didn't the Marines guarding the embassy and consulate shoot? Probably ordered to not fire by the Obama/Hillary regime. Obama was too busy yesterday campaigning and working on his jokes for the idiot Letterman show.

Al Adab| 9.12.12 @ 5:24PM

W:
If memory serves the Marines around all our enbassys were disarmed a couple years back as being too provocative. Maybe Mr. K might remember or have the full facts.

Grzmlyk| 9.12.12 @ 2:39PM

Additionally, Occam, there is only one thing that Islamists understand - according to none other than Osama bin Ladin: Power.

I have mixed feelings about our activities all over the middle east. But if we are there, we should not have rules of engagement that require us to use hugs as our first line of defense and nerf bullets in extreme cases.

As old man Clanton, played by Walter Brennan, says so callously - but so rightly - in the John Ford classic "My Darling Clementine, "if you pull a gun, kill a man."

Warm and fuzzies and bending over backward to show Islamists that we're really nice little dhimmis won't sweep our problems under the rug. And apologizing to them every time they kill one of our people because they've said something mean about Islam isn't going to win over their hearts and minds.

Boar Hunter| 9.12.12 @ 3:28PM

You sir are on a roll today! Outstanding points so far!

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 7:26PM

See my full comments, Mr. G: I agree with you and take it up a notch.

Fargo44| 9.12.12 @ 2:16PM

Cross fire! Are you Mad? Terrorists entered and searched the Consulate -- and later fired a rocket grenade at the American vehicle. This was a planned attack to kill Americans not crossfire. All of this is thanks mostly to that Jackass in the White House who as bragged about killing Bin Laden every day for months. These are Muslim scum -- cockroaches are more worthy of their space on this planet.

Skippy| 9.12.12 @ 4:19PM

This post encapsulates my thoughts on this matter.

The first question a Roman Consul would ask--were he transported forward roughly two millennia to our time, and briefed on the situation--would be simple:

"You tell me that you have weapons that can obliterate a city in an instant. You tell me that your enemies--who have been making war against you for decades--do not have these weapons.

"Why do you suffer any of them to live even one more day?"

from NRO online/Steyn 9/12/12

TinaB| 9.12.12 @ 9:08AM

Do to? It's due to, ignoramus.
Bring home the troops, close up the "empire", wtf?
Then everyone will leave us alone, and live and let live. right.
Jack, really?

Jack in Wi| 9.12.12 @ 9:59AM

Of course they will leave us alone. They come over here because we are over there. The Vietnamese didn't come over here when we left Vietnam. The Algerians didn't keep coming into France when the French left. The Latin Americans didn't go into Spain when they left after a decade long wars of Independence. The Afganis didn't keep fighting the Russians and British after they left. The Indians and Pakistani's didn't keep fighting the Bristish after they left their countries. Enough is enough of the lies and BS

Stkman| 9.12.12 @ 10:16AM

Jack,
Were we in Afghanistan when the Taliban supported Al Queada? Are Isreali soldiers now in Beirut? Are they in Egypt who is now putting tanks, helicopters and troops in the Sinai? Peace only comes through strength. There is no Utopia in this world. The only people who will protect Americans are Americans, whether that be abroad or at home.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 10:22AM

No, they didn't follow us?

THE FREAKING ISLAMICISTS FOLLOWED US TO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER, THE PENTAGON, AND A FIELD IN PENNSLYVANIA.

Moron.

Anthony| 9.12.12 @ 3:38PM

World Trade Center, twice. Don't forget the bombing during the Clinton years, that he called a criminal, rather than a terrorist attack.

JP| 9.12.12 @ 10:34AM

Jack, an embassy is hardly an occupation.

Boar Hunter| 9.12.12 @ 10:58AM

Illustrating your utter stupidity once again, tell me ol' wise one how exactly is England and "Russia" fairing right now with muslims? How about the French? How about anywhere in the world these sub-human primitives reside?

Your the same type of idiot that would boast about how well your appeasement of the rats has worked. Yeah they are in my house now, but they don't eat much and you get used to the smell after a while.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 11:11AM

Jack, your premise is simply wrong. They hate us because we are free and we promote freedom, not because of what particular piece of dirt an American is standing on.

Alan| 9.12.12 @ 11:15AM

Bingo, they hate us because we are FREE! Period, end of discussion, over.

Jack in Wi| 9.12.12 @ 3:46PM

Baloney Ross: They hate us because we are over there killing hundreds of thousands of their people. We encourage the most radical elements over there, while we drive our selves to bankruptcy. Lets just get the hell out now and move on. Let these countries figure out their own problems and solutions. Everything we have done in the Middle East since WW2 has turned to manure. It is time to realize that, and come home.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 11:29AM

Jack, you don't follow CAIR closely, do you?

MK48| 9.12.12 @ 7:36PM

Jack............ever herd of "boat people" they came to this country in droves after the Vietnam war.....were you been.

Nancy in NC| 9.12.12 @ 12:12PM

What will the left say now that our Ambassador is dead and being dragged through the streets of Libya? How many more cheeks are you going to turn?

This is bound of happen when we have a POTUS who thinks he can make nice with these piles of crap. And why aren't there a bunch of dead Marines who were defending our Embassy? Something is very wrong in this picture.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 1:59PM

NCNancy -

I'm thinking that if there had been a proper deployment of Marines, today we would have a live Ambassador and a bunch of dead Islamic thugs.

This is the STATE DEPARTMENT'S FAULT.

Ambassador Stevens, you sir, died because of the sloppy work of your employer. Widow Stevens you have been robbed! I say you have grounds for recourse...

Don't Tread On Me

Albert Constantine Jr.| 9.12.12 @ 2:29PM

DTOM;

If John Edwards reads your post, he's probably dusting off his old ambulance chasing sneakers to be the first at the courthouse to file suit on behalf of the family, and channel the spirit of the ambassador for a gullible jury.

Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 9.12.12 @ 12:47PM

Treat the Mideast as a region where people live and not an oil spigot.
They have reason to hate us:
America is not a Christian nation and never was; it was more Christian in the past, yes.. but never really Christian. It was all pretense hiding our pragmatism-- our FORMER pragmatism.

Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 9.12.12 @ 12:54PM

...btw,
say what you want about Jack in Wi., remember he was right and we were wrong. We lost in the region and now we have to cut our losses and leave. Get used to it.
And if Romney should win in November, then he will be the one to have to cut and run.

2Anglico| 9.12.12 @ 1:01PM

And that makes you happy, doesn't it, non-hacker?

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 2:01PM

So then 80% of Americans are not proclaiming some Christian faith?

What do they believe in? What you believe in?

What the hell is that?

DTOM

Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 9.12.12 @ 4:13PM

"And that makes you happy, doesn't it, non-hacker?"

I'm happy that your descendants will have less, and their's shall have more; for some to win others must lose- that is how it has been.
As for they are nominal America being 80 percent Christians, they are nominal Christians wearing Christianity as a badge.

Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 9.12.12 @ 4:16PM

should read:
As for America being 80 percent Christians, they are nominal Christians wearing Christianity as a badge.

Not that we are any different spiritually than other nations- but such isn't saying much. It IS a badge.

Skippy| 9.12.12 @ 4:41PM

A zero-sum dimwit.
Hey, some poor melanin-enriched child will go hungry today 'cuz I had lunch.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 5:19PM

As an atheist Jew, allow me to say this: America is basically a Christian nation. The vast majority of Americans are Christians and America is one of the most religious countries in the world.

http://www.norc.org/PDFs/Belie.....Report.pdf

Jack in Wi| 9.12.12 @ 9:46PM

Another proud atheist Jew just like the great Carl Reiner. What makes you guys atheists when God revealed himself first to the Jews? I can define atheism in 3 sentences. We come from nothing. We are here for no reason. We are going nowhere. Ross: Is it any wonder that the vast majority of the world's people have embraced some religion for answers? You atheists sure haven't got any.

Surly Curmudgen| 9.12.12 @ 3:03PM

Obama has voiced his displeasure with our form of government and said china being a dictatorship is easier to govern. He has voiced contempt at our poorly written and unusable constitution. He has stated that in a conflict he will stand with the Muslims. He was unhappy that we were paying less than two dollars a gallon for gas. He is feeling better now that he has pushed that past four dollars a gallon. He really... really... really hates that we, this nation, is so productive and as a result wealthy and is working his hardest to make us unproductive and as poor as any other third world country. He has taken up the mantle of dictator. Isn't that so so special?

KyMouse| 9.12.12 @ 5:24PM

A couple of days ago, someone at HotAir posted a comment which noted that the Canadians were withdrawing their personnel from their Iranian embassy. The comment wondered what they knew that we didn't know.

Did anyone else see that, or a similar comment elsewhere? Indeed, the Canadians seemed to have read the signals correctly.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 6:53AM

And, just like that, History repeats itself. And, not just once, but twice, and on the same day. TWO American Diplomatic Instillations were attacked yesterday, by the Religion of Peace. An Embassy and a Consulate.

Gee,that never happens.

Is ANYONE surprised? Especially now, in Jimmy Carter's 2nd Term, and just after Bill Clinton wowed then on Stage.

These creatures (whom I recommend be Flash Fried at the earliest opportunity) don't know much, but they can tell a WEAK HORSE when they see one.

They saw one in Carter, and our Embassy was Sacked, our CIA Chief was Murdered, and our People were held Hostage until a REAL MAN took over the White House. Carter's perfidy in his abandonment of the Shah, led to what the world is facing today, with Iran. (True Story)

Then the Left gave us Billy the Kid Clinton. The incurable Adolescent, with the Lying B*tch Wife, and the Hot Lounge Singer Mistress. Even though he had never Served in the Military, we were assured that he was prepared to be Commander in Chief because he once Protested AMERICA in MOSCOW, at the height of the Cold War. And, as Governor of The Barefoot State, he liked to use his State Police Detachment, to round up chicks, to look at his Di*k.

Von Mises Jr| 9.12.12 @ 8:55AM

Romney should immediately meet with Bibi. History does repeat itself, my friend TLP, or at least it rhymes.
The hostages were returned the day Ronald Reagan took office. The Islamist knew that the following morning that Tehran would look like the rest of the Kavir and Lut Desert that surround them.

The regime and MSM cannot control the narrative nationwide, no less worldwide. We have at least one dead and others missing that makes Jimma Carter look competent. At least the peanut farmer did not publically prostrate himself if my memory serves me right. It took a crashed helicopter in the desert before he descended to Barry's level. I think then he prostrated himself to the nation.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 9:03AM

That is an Excelleny Idea.

Romney should invite Netanyahu to meet, when he's over here.

The UPPER WEST SIDE Faux Jews will still vote for The Muslim. But then, they've got Sh*t For Brains.

Which is why I DESPISE the Upper West Side Jews, as well as the Upper West Side Gentiles, and all the rest of the assorted Infidels that reside there.

Got a Problem with that?

Von Mises Jr| 9.12.12 @ 10:35AM

I always avoid NYC unless I am staring at Monet, Renoir or Van Gogh. All the people alive on that island are screwed up in the head.
I have a hard time sometimes figuring out which is OWS scum and which is just liberal scum.

Al Adab| 9.12.12 @ 1:13PM

JR:
That is a great suggestion. While the administration meets with Marsi, let Romney meet with Netanyahu. At least the world will see the two sides. We apologize to Egypt for upsetting them and Libya apologizes to us for killing the ambassador. I know on which side I stand, does Obie-one?

Gary B| 9.12.12 @ 7:09PM

Great suggestion. It would upstage Obama and enrage the press - both good. And, in the photo, there should be a third chair - empty, of course.

Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 9.12.12 @ 12:49PM

" TWO American Diplomatic Instillations"

"Instillations"? did you mean to write distillation; oil distilleries?

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 1:09PM

No.

I meant, Blow Me.

John Navratil| 9.12.12 @ 3:24PM

TLP,

Excellent translation sir! You command of the idiom is, indeed, remarkable ;)

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 4:13PM

Get ready for another Contest, John.

Maybe Tomorrow.

I'm just sayin.

KennesawJack| 9.12.12 @ 7:08AM

I think we're in for some very tough sledding. The Arabs now know, incontrovertibly, what they have suspected and hoped for, they have a kindred spirit at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. An Ambassador is dead, our Embassy sacked, a Consulate burned, and this feckless bastard's administration blames it on us. Hang on tight folks, this has nowhere to go but downhill.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 7:39AM

Jacky Boy - HAMAS believes that he is THE DELIVEROR.

They have given him the name - ABU HUSSAIN- Son of the Father.

They belive that he has been sent by their God of Murder to Destroy the Jews and DELIVER Jerusalem back in to Muslim hands, even though Jerusalem is not mentioned ONCE in the Koran, while being mentioned over 600 TIMES in the Bible.

One well placed Bullet coulda stopped WWII.

I'm just sayin.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 7:13AM

So Slick Dick Willy comes along, and when these Peaceful Misunderstood Suicide Bombers take one look at him, they stop stoning their Daughters to Death, and start making plans for Our Daughters.

They attack the Khobar Towers, in Saudi Arabia. They attack the World Trade Center. They attack the USS Cole. They attack Two American Embassies, in Africa.

Clinton's response?

A coupla Million $ Dollar Cruise Missiles in to an Empty Camp, on the day he Testifies before a Grand Jury, and a coupla more Cruise Missiles in to an Aspirin Factory, on the Day of his Impeachment Vote. A Large Pizza, and a BJ with the Fat Girl.

So you see? He was very active after those repeated attacks.

Well, when Bin Laden saw this Pathetic, No Morals, Weak Sack a Sh*t, it was Game On, as far as he was concerned. Weak Horse #2, meant Attack on American Soil #2.

Bush comes in to Office, and is immediately greeted by the End Results of Clinton's Unwillingness to Stand Up and Fight Back. The big difference is that Bush draws a line in the sand, and pretty soon we're killing THEM by the Thousands, instead of the other way around. And, we're not hit, again.

Go figure.

KennesawJack| 9.12.12 @ 7:23AM

This is, indeed, a "weak horse". Scenario: '67 happens again only this time, Iraq and Iran join in. Israel, despite its weaponry, is overrun and, while the slaughter of the Jews redux takes place, Obamarx and the leftist, democrat Jews in America convince everyone that Israel had it coming. Too fantastic to be true? Don't think so.

chuck| 9.12.12 @ 7:51AM

Israel has 200 nukes, and would use them to defend their population from annihilation.

Sooner or later, the civilized world is going to have to deal with Islamic extremism on a large scale. it will be a "us vs. them" thing. A few millions dead Muzzies ought to take care of the problem for the next 100 years.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 9:16AM

200 Nukes?

I would use them.

And I wouldn't hesitate for a Millisecond.

If they had a Nuke on 911? THEY WOULDA USED IT. And, everybody knows it.

"Never Again" means Never Again, where I come from.

Besides........They Love Death. They said so. They get 72 Mansions (Like John Kerry) with a Virgin in each one of them. (Not like John Kerry). They get to be Martyrs. And they get to live in Paradise, as opposed to the Self-made Sh*t Holes that they live in. Now.

I say.........Grant them their Fondest Wish.

Better EVERY ONE OF THEM, than One American, or One Israeli.

It's a No Brainer.

Bring the Rain.

squalis| 9.12.12 @ 9:34AM

"Besides........They Love Death. They said so. They get 72 Mansions (Like John Kerry) with a Virgin in each one of them. (Not like John Kerry)."

Absolutely the funniest line I have read in a very long time! Thanks for the cheerful moment in dreadful times. How is this Presidential race a race at all?

irish19| 9.12.12 @ 9:52AM

That was definitely good for a chuckle.

KyMouse| 9.12.12 @ 9:46AM

There is only one thing about the embassy attack in 1979 that brings a smile to my face --

At the time, I was staying with a deaf family in Indiana. The teenaged daughter was, like all of us, outraged by the attack. Knowing that I knew only a little sign language, she used pantomime to show me what she would like to do to the Iranians.

Her "recommendations" went on for about five minutes. I wish I had the whole thing on video -- she went from firing guns to throwing grenades and bombing, all in a fast and furious pantomime.

God bless her. I wish I could see her reaction to this latest attack.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 8:03AM

Just so you know, Jack.

You couldn'ta screwed me up any worse if you tried. (and I know you didn't try)

Because of Purps's desire to Meet Boys on this site, by writing down his Life's Story in a Mile Long Screed, it's not possible to get some points across in 500 characters or less. So, really smart people (like You and Me) have to run their Dissertations together, one after another.

In the old days, we would write the whole thing down as one page. This way a person would only be accused of Hitlerism, Hating the Jews, owning Lampshades made from Human Skin, and Blood Libels, once.

Now, with this Forum, the Gay Guy Group (and they know who they are) will be all over me. (Figuratively, of course.)

Their like The Blue Man Group, only with Lipstick and Vaseline all over their bodies, instead of Blue Paint.

I'm just sayin.

irish19| 9.12.12 @ 9:54AM

"Their like The Blue Man Group, only with Lipstick and Vaseline all over their bodies, instead of Blue Paint."
EEEEEeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww!!!!! Yuck!

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 11:14AM

TLP is one colorful American, isn't he...

DTOM

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 11:31AM

Gets the point across, though. That's why TLP rules, baby.

Warrior| 9.12.12 @ 12:37PM

Blue Man Group reference should be put aside for the "Best of the Year" blog postings at AmSpec.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 11:30AM

KJ: when I disparage "Jack," it is never you, sir. You are painfully correct, this Jew says.

KennesawJack| 9.12.12 @ 1:02PM

Occam, I get that.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 1:16PM

I was writing to you, KJ.

KennesawJack| 9.12.12 @ 1:45PM

Got that, too. No worries.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 7:31AM

Which brings us to Today.

If you thought that the last two Dem Dumbfcks were bad? This one IS A MUSLIM. He's one of them, and everything he has done since Day One, has SCREAMED this fact, that nobody seems to wanna accept.

His Groveling at their feet. His incessant Praise of their Peacefulness, even as they trapse across the other side of the world, Killing everyone they can get their hands on.

The Speeches. The Interviews he gives them. The Muslim Mitzvahs he has at the White House, seemingly, every other Saturday.

He has handed them Mubarek. Handed them Libya. He's done his best to put Israel in a Bad Situation since Day 1, with his insistence that they Stop Building Houses in their own Country, Go back to the 67 Borders, Stop calling Jerusalem their Capitol, and helping his Muslim Brotherhood Buddies encircle the Jewish State.

I've called him President GREEN LIGHT twice, because Green means Go. And, Go they will, if this MFer gets 4 More Years to Finish what he Started.

Yesterday was just the beginning.

Nancy in NC| 9.12.12 @ 9:45AM

One of the main reasons I come to this site is to read what you have posted today. You would be a hit at my local newspaper. The left so much hates the truth and attacks those who say it. I know as I'm often on the receiving end. The pond scum just hate to be called pond scum.

America is turning into a bunch of pussies. We need someone like Gen Pershing to handle these terrorists. I'm sure most people know how he dipped the bullets in pig's blood before executing all but one Islamic terrorist, sending the one back to tell the story to the rest of his buddies. I swear, we need some tough love here.

But that's not going to happen because the Dims depend on the Arabs to vote for them. The DNC also deleted their previous condemenation of Hamas in their wimpy platform. It must be difficult to base a platform on all your voting blocs rather than principles.

The Democrats HAVE NO principles. They only care about reelection at any cost. If they have to sacrifice a few Americans and the truth along the way, it's not a problem.

While Jack sounds like Neville Chamberlain...peace at any price...we need some peace through strength. Wonder if the Enola Gay is still around?

Bill8472| 9.12.12 @ 9:53AM

First, there's no corroboration for the claim that Moros (or any other Muslim) would have any greater concern about being executed because the bullets were to be dipped in pig's blood, or (as the legend generally goes) to be buried in the skin of a pig.

Furthermore, there's no evidence that I know of that verifies that General Pershing ever did what your post says he did (executed Moros with pig's-blood bullets/buried them in pigskins).

But I agree that civilian Americans are all too often are pussies. 'Twas ever thus. People who are willing to stand up to mistreatment are all too rare.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 1:24PM

We'll never know, until we try, right?

I say we TRY.

I may be wrong, but I think that Black Jack Pershing used to Dip these MFers in Pig Blood, before Burying them, and then Buried them Face Down, so the Purp and Pelleas, and RCV, and Alancouldyoumakemineafootlongandputsomehaironitbrooks, could have a shot at them, when they FCKED WITH US, back in the day.

And the MFers backed down.

Turn it all to Glass.

We're gonna have to do it later, anyway.

Why not do it NOW, and spare Millions of Lives?

Bill8472| 9.12.12 @ 2:36PM

The Moros NEVER backed down. The U.S. war against the Moros simply ground down, with U.S. Army leaders trying diplomacy and having some success; things fell below the war level, and the Moros got along reasonably well with the U.S. occupiers until the Philippines became independent after World War II.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 4:26PM

It" Ground Down" because they Backed Down.

Dumbass.

rgz| 9.12.12 @ 10:49AM

I would have to agree that something needs to be done. Exactly what is a very difficult question. I think it is pretty safe to say that much of the population of the Middle East hates us and has for a long time. Rekligious wars tend to be very messy and bloody, and that seems to be what is under consideration here. Interesting that you bring up Neville Chamberlain. Have you thought about the outcome of almost every war since the end of WW II?

Martin kzovich| 9.12.12 @ 7:13AM

These incidents should give American Citizens who believe in this country not the jerks who in the CPUSA( formerly the Democrat Party ) good reason to get rid of Obama. We can do without a President who trashes the Constitution and our freedoms.
This election one where inspite of our nominee, we vote early and often against Obama.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 11:12AM

MK - you should do a little research on the "New Democrat" party. They initially endorsed Obama when he ran for the Illinois House back in '02.

They are confirmed socialists who require that their endorsees confirm their socialist policies.

This was known in mid 2008. Too bad for us...

DTOM

John786| 9.12.12 @ 7:26AM

The hate speech I.e the video at the heart of this was meant to elicit a response. Its rather unfortunate that some have taken the bait. The motives of those at the centre of this should be looked at. Are they trying to force the US into further military responses in the ME. Are they friends of Priminister Netanyahu. We need to know.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 9.12.12 @ 7:55AM

Once again, the poor lawless powerless Islamist mobs have been manipulated by the clever Zionists to commit acts of aggression against sovereign US embassies and consulates (thus said John786). There is not a word against attacking the embassies of other countries, nary a criticism of attacking others to promote the religion of peace.

John, your motives, as demonstrated in this and all of your comments here from the comfort of your UK perch, are well known already.

John786| 9.12.12 @ 8:31AM

It seems clear to me that extremists feed off each other. In order to create chaos. These Violent episodes are meant to confuse and detract us. It is ironic that the US is now suffering from a lack of security it helped in part create. Necons have a lot to answer for. An invasion of Iran will not help matters.

c. j. acworth| 9.12.12 @ 8:46AM

Absolutly right, John. An invasion of Iran will not help. A whole buncha cruise missles on the other hand....

rgz| 9.12.12 @ 10:58AM

It seems to me that to profess any religion other than the dominant religion in the region where one happened to be pr0fessing has always invited some opposition and even contempt. It also seems to me that the "prophet" would probably be living out his life in prison for reasons that pretty much everyone agreed on if he lived in the West in the 21st century instead of 7th century Arabia.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 9:21AM

ACJ,

Your "poor, powerless Islamist" mobs are not being manipulated - they are doing what they believe in. And what they believe in is Islam, "the religion of peace." Which attains that peace through a very simple formula: everyone either follows Islam, is a dhimmi-a serf to the Islamic faithful, or is dead. Result: peace.

But it is noisy for a while.

And there is no doubt that they are seeing us as weak. The Obama-led response to the "Arab spring" was soft, lazy, and cowardly. Thus they now figure us as "soft, lazy, and cowardly." Sadly, until we convince them otherwise they will treat us and our representatives as unimportant serfs who can be manhandled and murdered at will.

I bet some of those big Obama donors with their new ambassadorships are wondering about what they got themselves into.

DTOM

Jacob McCandles| 9.12.12 @ 9:44AM

Nice review of the religion of peace. Remember, there is no such thing as the "moderate muslim". There are those who believe and follow the writings, and those who do not.
There are some nice celebrations to view on youtube of the Sept. 11 attack. Those might be our "moderate" muslims??

Albert Constantine Jr.| 9.12.12 @ 10:44AM

DTOM (or is it Dan, if my memory serves me correctly);

Apparently, the restraint I was using in my sarcasm made my response too subtle to be clear. I was mocking John786’s lack of criticism towards the murderous rioters and their culpability, and focusing instead on the conspiratorial filmmakers.

I am well aware of the ultimate goal of the Islamists, which I think you spell out quite clearly.

Boar Hunter| 9.12.12 @ 11:09AM

I was wondering how long it was going to take for the lefties to identify the plot by Prime Minister Netanyahu.

People like John786 are clearly way to clever for those wily Jooo's to pull the wool over their eyes.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 11:10AM

ACJ,

It's DTOM.

Sarcasm is a tricky weapon with points all over it.

I've tried to avoid all but the must glaring, blaring, obvious of sarcasm for that reason.

God bless you and good on you, citizen!

And I'm calling out 786 as a Muslim troll...

They are especially worrisome - I like the Paulbots a lot better.

DTOM

John786| 9.12.12 @ 12:13PM

So I'm a fanatic for repeatedly pointing out that the militaristic policies followed by the US can not by definition bring security. Extremism flourishes in swamps. Swamps greatley expanded by US foreign policy. I continue to maintain that Muslims are the most peaceful people on the earth on any realistic measure.

spike59| 9.12.12 @ 12:33PM

....because 'peaceful people' ALWAYS riot, fire their RPG's, and issue Fatwahs calling for the deaths of cartoonists and movie directors

dolt

Warrior| 9.12.12 @ 12:44PM

Great work John. The beheadings, the stonings, the honor killings all in the name of their god are peaceful by their religious nature. The blowing up of women and children in markets, lobbing of missiles into schools and hospitals and the continued calls for death to all jews are done with peaceful intentions. We don't need to look at any history to know these as facts. You can't be this stupid.

Al Adab| 9.12.12 @ 1:17PM

John:
Cultural differences need to be understood by any American administration worthy of the name. Currently that is obviously not the case. Newton was right about that action = reaction stuff.

In any event, Libya did the right thing and apologized while we apologized to Egypt. Inept is the word I would choose to describe this administration. All that said, I do wish we could share over that cup of coffee some day.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 2:08PM

You are a fanatic because:

You pretend to be something you are demonstrably not.

Only the ignorant or the malignant propose retreat and appeasement in the face of acts of war. History has endlessly shown that when warlike lunatics are not responded to strongly, they escalate. And Islam has been growing since Mohammed kicked the whole warlike thing off in the 700's. And it will continue until we disabuse those people of the notion that they can win.

Becoming energy independent will radically alter their ability to mess with us, however. Why don't you support that and let the rest of us handle the foreign affairs beat?

And let's see now, your peaceful Muslims killed four people because of an insulting movie?

Peaceful?

Are you stupid or malignant or Muslim?

You are not rational.

DTOM

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 2:10PM

Al,

The above was directed to John 786.

You might want to share that coffee with him heavily armed. His idea of peace is you Muslim or dead. Careful...

DTOM

Al Adab| 9.12.12 @ 2:40PM

Thanks DT, I thought so. John and I share a somewhat common perspective and I believe understand and respect one another for what we are. I converted in 1980. The Islamists harm their own cause by their tactics.

GGM| 9.13.12 @ 4:26AM

@Adolf Constantine: you are the typical Nazi and know the Nazi play book. To paraphrase Menachem Begin : The Jew haters always use the following tactic 'When Goys kill Goys (when non-Jews kill other non-Jews) always blame the Jews'

MelvinNC| 9.12.12 @ 7:34AM

"Fu*#, those Goddamn Islamic rag heads, Just read of Fox where those ignorant Savages just murdered the US envoy to Libya along with two other Senior Staff.
This bullshit has Iranian fingerprints all over it. When is that ignorant big eared jug-head and that worthless at tits on a boar hog Sec. of State Hillary Clinton going to pull they're heads out their asses and see the world as it really is?
I'm so angered right now against all the blood we shed in the Mideast and tax payer money and this is how those Islamic Bastards pay us back?
Thats right I said, "Islamic Bastards," and if I could say anything worse against Islam I would. And please don't patronized me with that crap of, "Oh it isn't Islam that we are fighting, but some poor misguided and uninformed individuals.
If those Islamic Bastards want war, then they shall have it.
A friend of mine extolled the virtues of Obama's and Clinton's foreign policy experience and it might be better that we stick with those them. And now we have three dead Americans with Iranian and Libyan blood they're hands. But that isn't new to that bunch.
Just watch people our government isn't going to do one damn thing to avenge the deaths of those Americans.

chuck| 9.12.12 @ 7:56AM

Agreed. This is an act of war. We should give the Egyptian and Libyan governments one week to bring these people to justice, or the nukes should fly.

These people are rabid dogs, and they should be treated as such.

vtwin| 9.12.12 @ 8:32AM

“Rabid dogs?” You’re referring to those whom have left blood thirsty comments here, right?

TinaB| 9.12.12 @ 9:19AM

Let's see, blood thirsty comments, bloodshed, yep, they're the same.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 9:39AM

This is why nobody takes Idiots - like You - seriously. Because you're an Idiot who makes Idiotic Satements.

Purp's an Idiot, RCV's an Idiot, and Pelleaus is a Fckng Moron.

Jackass in Wi's an Idiot, Jackass from London's an Idiot, and John786 - which I'm assuming is his Inmate Number wherever he's being held - is an Idiot.

Alanfillintheblank is not an Idiot. He's just a pretty little girl, trapped in, what has to be, the Ugliest, most Disgusting Looking, Bald Headed Fat Slob, that ever put on a Leotard, a Bright Red Wig, Steel Reinforced 9 inch Heels, and an Authentic Imitation Madonna Bullet Bra, that he Stole from the Laundromat.

Other than that?

He's perfectly Normal.

The Big E| 9.12.12 @ 10:30AM

Shall we take it from that idiotic comment that you approve of the attacks on the Embassy in Egypt and the Consulate in Lybia? Shall we take it that you approve of the timing? That you see nothing but a mere coincidence that these events happened on 9/11?

Since you approve of the act of murder when carried out against American diplomats by those innocent, peaceful Muslims, why don't you tell us which Embassy should be attacked next? Which Ambassador should be murdered next?

What kind of cowardly, useless, weak minded, spineless, traitor do you have to be to have more contempt for those outraged by murder, than for those who committed murder?

You, sir, are a disgrace to the human race.

Bill8472| 9.12.12 @ 11:13AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYXdk-qTl5U

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 11:37AM

Vtwin: I always make the same comments. For the same reasons. In WWII, it took horrifying bombing and invasion with rape/pillage, etc. to make the Germans say "uncle." The Japanese required all of that bombing and more---and then two Nukes, to avoid invasion.

The Islamic world is 8 times larger than those two countries combined, and has a stronger ideology, although a far weaker technology base. It will take a LOT of killing to bring them down. I do not pretend my enemy is civilized, but I do not underestimate their willingness to fight. When killing people, it is far better to give than receive.

Bengazi needs carpet bombing. Egypt needs the Aswan dam destroyed. Teheran needs to be directly threatened with annihilation. Pussyfooting gets us nowhere. We MUST make them into the falling camel.

When they surrender and threaten us no more, then I am perfectly willing to go back to thinking about the birds in my back yard and Blofeld- petting my cats with nothing on my mind. But right now I have to think like Blofeld as well as pet my cats, and my enemy is the Islamic world.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 1:27PM

I'm thinking that a Submarine full of Neutron Bomb Cruise Missiles, could put all of this to rest, in about 5 Minutes.

Take the shot!

spike59| 9.12.12 @ 12:36PM

vtwin, actions speak louder than words; the mobs of jackals need to be run to ground, rounded up, and taken to the pound; if found to be rabid, there's a lead-based cure for that

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 11:06AM

chuck,

Rabid dogs deserve better treatment, they are, after all, just dogs.

These are men - they know what they are doing.

DTOM

chuck| 9.12.12 @ 7:54PM

That is so true. Rabid dogs should be put down humanely. It is not their fault, just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

These Muzzie maggots should be made to suffer. Osama got off easy when the Navy Seal popped him through the eye and out his ear. They should have gut shot the bastard, and let him die slowly and painfully. Same with these maggots.

My apologies to rabid dogs everywhere.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 9:26AM

Couple of thoughts:

With Carter this happened in Iran in the Third year of his Presidency - the ol' Islamic radicals must be slipping up - or it took them a while to recognize the little itty-bitty man we have as President is really not GW Bush.

Until we toss Obama out on Nov 6, they are going to run wild. Pity our people on the ground over there.

When Romney wins, Obama had better extend the same courtesy and access to the White House that Bush extended to him. But the itsy-bitsy, teenie-weenie President Obama won't. He'll be locked in his bedroom, sulking while Moochelle tries to figure out how to stop the sunrise on January 21st, 2013. Romney had better double up the Secret Service detail that sweeps Barry and his ilk out that morning. And don't forget to sweep the place for bugs, too. And I am NOT talking about bedbugs...

Don't Tread On Me!!!

Sheesh, are we surprised by this?

Also would the press please seek out Hillary's Chief of Staff, Mrs. Weiner, Huma Abedin, and ask her when her mom's organization, the Muslim Brotherhood is going to knock this off? Don't they know that Barack will have more flexibility after the election?

Sheesh ... A Mormon? Hell a good, solid Rastafarian would be preferable to this stickless, spineless, teeny-weeny crew in the White House!

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 9:44AM

This is what we get, everytime our White Hiuse is manned by a buncha people who can't pick The Military Officer out of the Photograph, if the choice is between Him, a Doorman, the guy in charge of the Velvet Rope at the Theatre, or the Matradi at their Favourite 5 Star Restaurant.

Nancy in NC| 9.12.12 @ 9:50AM

I thought I would puke when the Dims paraded out the former military to defend this piece of excrement. Wonder how long it took them to find that many military folks to make fools of themselves?

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 11:04AM

With a huge picture of the Soviet fleet as a backdrop, no less.

How much more of their crap is America going to take?

Not much, I hope!

DTOM

Houdini| 9.12.12 @ 10:26AM

Hold on a minute...didn't you hear that our fearless leader has issued a strongly worded statement?

Boar Hunter| 9.12.12 @ 11:12AM

By statement, I assume you mean apology?

Boar Hunter| 9.12.12 @ 11:11AM

Hillary's chief assistant is named what? And she comes from where?

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 4:32PM

Her name is Huma.

And, don't forget that his #1 Guy is Valerie Jarrett, who was born in Iran.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 5:20PM

Tim, do me a favor and keep the language fairly clean, OK? Just had to take down one of your comments, and it wasn't one involving me.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 6:22PM

I'm just trying to Highlight Absurdity by being Absurd.

Besides, he's a Dick

Gary B| 9.12.12 @ 7:11PM

LOL

Appleby| 9.12.12 @ 7:37AM

Here we go again. How long until our people are taken hostage, and Obama tries a desperate move a la Carter's failed "rescue" attempt that catapaults Romney into the Presidency?

These are the end times, people. Get your houses in order.

LibertyGirl| 9.12.12 @ 7:45AM

You are so right. Wake up everyone.

LibertyGirl| 9.12.12 @ 7:39AM

The black flag is a declaration of war, just in case you misinterpreted their actions.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 1:33PM

I'll say it, again.

If this had happened when our Fathers were still running this Country?

These places would already have been turned into Smoking Rubble.

As long as this Effeminate POSER is in the White House?

This SHIT will continue, unabated.

Ken (Old Texican)| 9.12.12 @ 7:46AM

hello Muhamed786

Jesus Christ died for your lies. Please turn to him before we come to getcha'.

Ross, I am quietly counting down the days to the election and e-mailing the thousands on my email list to please go out and vote right.

MelvinNC| 9.12.12 @ 7:56AM

Long time no see Ken, Damn this shit frosts me to no end. For twenty years I trained and trained and trained to kill those Persian Camel Co#$Suckers, and dammit Ken we are still playing handsies and footsies with them.
Lets just say I'm livid right now. I'm livid at the Iranians, the Libyans, the Afghanis, and the entire Persian Gulf region. The Kings, Princes, Sultans and all the other titles that abound down there.
The Democrats create this crap and then they crawl back to their rotting little bolt holes and let someone else try to clean up the mess. Then the Democrats have the gall to raise their heads out of their holes and criticize, "Oh, your doing wrong, we have to be nice Iranians so they'll like us."
How many of our sons and daughters must die because of the dirty rotten cowards in Washington D.C.?

Nancy in NC| 9.12.12 @ 9:57AM

Melvin, I'm up the road a piece from you at Cherry Point. I am literally sick about this crap. We are killing the best this country has to offer to defend those pieces of crap in the WH and his minions of selfish flotsam.

This country gets more riled up about waterboarding than our soveriegnty being compromised. Most of them couldn't find Egypt or Saudia Arabia on a map if their very lives depended on it. But they know exactly the moment their "benefits" come in.

We are in big trouble and half the country is absolutely clueless. On one hand I can't wait for Nov to get here, and on the other I am terrified. I don't know which will be worse: Obama winning or losing. Some of his followers will absolutely go ape sh*t if he loses cause they know they might have to go to work for the first time in their worthless, meaninless life.

I'm just totally p*ssed off today.

scotchieguy| 9.12.12 @ 10:44AM

I agree. What will be worse? You know if we win the election, the petulant brats won't go down without a fight. Imagine what could happen? When you create a junkie, then take away his sh-t, it is not a pretty sight. And, there are millions of them.

MelvinNC| 9.12.12 @ 10:52AM

Hey baby sister. Nancy, we've been dealing with this crap since 1979. It needs to end an end now, winner take all.
We have been pussyfooting around with the Mideast right after WW2 when we filled the vacuum that Britain left.
Arabs, Persian, Iraqis, Afgahnis, Saudis, and all the others I have not mentioned understand one thing and one thing only. They understand the power of military might, but not so much the might that scares them. It is the willingness to use it with unbridled anger.
Germany and Japan didn't stop fighting until they were practically wiped off the face of the earth. Then and only then did they concede defeat to give up they're ability and desire to wage war on others.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 11:02AM

Melvin,

Since 1802...

DTOM

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 1:37PM

We should get together with the Environmentalists, and turn the whole Sh*thole Muslim Cesspool into a Mirror.

Thus, reflecting a lot of the Sun's Rays back into Space, and solving Global Warming.

As Stuart Gilligan Griffen would say: "That's my Plan. Where's yours?"

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 7:31PM

Melvin: I honestly did not see your post when I did mine. Stay well, sir.

John786| 9.12.12 @ 8:45AM

Ken (the rapturing texan)
Don't worry about my salvation. Jesus ( pbuh) is my messiah, prophet, guide. And the bible indeed Is a light. Muslims accept all the messengers of GOD. Islam is the last manifestation of the oldest faith on earth: the worship of the one true GOD. Salvation lies in acting upon this. You should learn more about Jesus ( pbuh).

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 9:31AM

John - the Muslims do NOT follow Jesus - they co-opt Him. And if you are following them in an effort to connect with Jesus Christ, you are in for a very rude awakening when you meet St. Peter face to face. To you it will be like bumping into Mr. T who will turn around, bitch-slap you and shout "Fool! You think 72 virgins is a GOOD thing?! To hell with you...."

Good luck with that 786. Christ put it quite simply: in John 14:6.

Praying for you, fool!

Don't Tread On Me!

John786| 9.12.12 @ 10:38AM

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I believe that Jesus (pbuh) is one of Gods's great messengers. Salvation lies in following what he preached: I can not be a Muslim if I don't believe in this. Its Americas one sided policy in the ME which is driving a very negative dynamic. The drone wars are killing dozens each month. They don't bring security. Smashing Iraq into the stoneage has not brought security. Violence begets violence: I think Jesus (pbuh) may have said that. US and Muslim interest lies in being closer together. The elephant in the room is Israel. The coming war with Iran will bring no security to anyone. Interestingly the mother of all extremist states aka the Magical Kingdom is Americas closest ally in the ME. Go figure.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 11:01AM

Your belief is nice and it's yours.

God doesn't share it though. You claim Jesus as your Messiah and a messenger. He cannot be both.

You pretend to be Christian. You are not, by your own words you prove this.

And your confusing religion with how international affairs makes clear that you draw no distinction between this world and the next. Ergo, you are a Muslim.

And you believe that it is okay to kill me, if I don't agree with you.

As a Christian, I love you. As an American, I want you to either go away and leave us alone, or, if you attack us, we will kill you.

Get it?

Look out, there's a Jew behind that tree! And he is holding the firing button for a nuclear weapon.

Good luck with that.

DTOM

John786| 9.12.12 @ 12:25PM

DTOM
You say "GOD doesnt share it". Have you spoken to GOD. Is there direct communication. Are you the messiah? As a Christian you want to love as an American you want to kill? Is there two people in your brain. Muslims are christ's (pbuh) greatest followes and heirs. Thats 100% kosher.

Al Adab| 9.12.12 @ 1:26PM

John:
100% kosher. LOL
Our beliefs may shape our visions of proper policy, but it should be clear that the way in which this administration is handling these events is amatuerish at best. If we separate Faith from policy we are still left with a dead ambassador and a situation eerily similar to that faced by Carter. Let us both, from our two perspectives, pray that someone has the wisdom to act correctly in the next few days.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 1:42PM

I noticed you wrote CHRIST in lower case letters, Ccksckr.

Why not be a stand up Muslim, and give us your Home Address, so we can pull you out of your house, and drag you through the streets, NAKED, like you SCUMBAGS are wont to do, when YOUR MESSIAH IS INSULTED?

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 2:14PM

Another brave Muslim.

Ever notice that they generally attack unarmed people who do not even know they need to defend themselves?

THEY ARE COWARDS.

Ever notice that Obama's only campaign strategy is to destroy his opponent- never explain how he will build up the country or state that he is running to represent...

COWARDS...

DTOM

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 7:33PM

Nothing you do or say, son, is Kashrut. 786, you are an idiot.

The only connection with Islam and Jerusalem in the Koran is in a dream. (Literally). Move your Palis to Jordan, and live a quiet life and stop murdering your own kids, OK?

Otherwise, you will reap what you sow, at the thousand to one ratio YOU ESTABLISHED.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 11:40AM

I doubt Jesus would be in favor of your friends murdering his people, John786, you puke.

RCV| 9.12.12 @ 1:03PM

The drones are killing people who need to be killed - those engaging in war against our country. Allowing Iran to develop nuclear weapons would be the greatest threat to peace I could imagine, given their support for and financing of terrorism throughout the region.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 1:44PM

Fck You.

You have ZERO Credibility.

This is OBAMA'S FAULT.

But you'll never admit it.

Cause you're a Ccksckr Lemming Puke.

RCV| 9.12.12 @ 2:09PM

And you're a foul-mouthed bigot of the worst order. Pond scum.

Truth to Power| 9.12.12 @ 3:08PM

And you're a total phony.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 4:34PM

ON HIS WATCH.

Nick| 9.12.12 @ 6:15PM

Remember, RCV, when I told you the other day that there is an eternity between now and the election? And, that anything can happen between now and then?
And probably would?
Hmmmm.......

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 7:35PM

Nick speaks truth. Bibi may say fornicate off to the wide eared one and screw with his re-election chances. Myself, I'd let the winged birds fly a day or two before the election, so oil isn't affected until after, but before Obama can feel free to do something.

Nick| 9.12.12 @ 7:52PM

Thanks, Occam.
The worst part for America is that the Foodstamp President is going to be paralyzed until the election, trying to figure out what is the best course, politically, for himself.
Not, what is best for America.

He is the most feckless and incompetent Comander-in-Chief we've ever had. Period.

RCV| 9.12.12 @ 8:26PM

These developments will not help Romney. He already looks foolish. The Al Qaeda operation on our ambassador will be avenged, and drones will find their way to these terrorists as they have to the others.

Nick| 9.12.12 @ 10:59PM

Yeah, RCV, and the Iran Hostage Crisis didn't hurt Jimmuh' Peanut-brain, either.
Keep reaching for those straws.

The Apologist-in-Chief is having a fund-raiser tonight. That's how much he cares.

Alan| 9.12.12 @ 9:55AM

Any so-called religion that endorses the killing of people due to their viewpoint, differences of opinion, or whatever is ungodly and satanic. This pig licking group of animals who perpetrated this should be shot on site. Religion of peace? There never has been peace associated with this aboration of a religion. Vermin.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 10:54AM

Alan,

You need to finish the thought. It is not a religion, it is a political system. And a political system that attacks another political system, like oh, say free market capitalism, that is what is called "war."

And political systems that fail to properly respond to "acts of war" end up being losers and subjugated...until (in the last 100 years) the USA comes and bails them out.

Uh-oh, who's going to bail us out? China? Russia? India? It's us or the end...

So does the little bitty, teeny weenied, tiniest President Obama...

DTOM

Alan| 9.12.12 @ 11:22AM

Absolutely, Its a theocracy where self-appointed communicators with God run every facit of everybodys life. Its total tyranny on every level. Religion is the only the vehicle that gets the tyrants to power. Its a cancer to freedom.

Boar Hunter| 9.12.12 @ 11:15AM

Islam is of satan. Mohamed is a pedophile who raped unwilling little girls.

All muslims are despicable dogs on whom America will eventually wipe it's feet.

I burned a Koran last night, the flames were glorious.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 11:41AM

Boar: did you cook a pig over its flames? Should have.

Alan| 9.12.12 @ 12:38PM

The Koran isn't clean enough to wipe my ass with, one page at a time. Phone book pages would be preferred.

Boar Hunter| 9.12.12 @ 9:30PM

Why would I ruin the divine meat of a pig by using a Koran to cook it. I prefer one slow roasted over Jack Daniels charcoal and the smoking chips they make from the old whiskey barrels.

Occam's Tool| 9.14.12 @ 6:35PM

My point, Oh Great Hunter of fatty things, is to have the pig fat drip slowly on the pages. Use rotten pig meat for this purpose, or parts one would not wish to eat.

Stay well, sir, and prosper much.

spike59| 9.12.12 @ 12:39PM

(pbuh)...Please Bring Us Hamburgers...or are you just hacking up a hairball? Isalm is NOT the 'last manifestation of blah blah blah....', it's a cult based on worship of a psychopathic pedophile

Dodd2| 9.12.12 @ 7:51AM

Shoot to kill!

Havoc| 9.12.12 @ 8:00AM

Not to worry, everyone. Hillary has 'deplored' the violence. Everything will be ok.

chuck| 9.12.12 @ 8:13AM

Yep, one of your underlings is murdered, and a simple "deplore the violence" should do it. Now back to her girl-friends.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 9:33AM

Huma Abedin, daughter of the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood!!!

Wake up people, that's coffee you smell and it's on fire!!!!

DTOM

Boar Hunter| 9.12.12 @ 11:16AM

No, no, no. John McCain has already told us that there is no reason to suspect she is up to anything nefarious.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 11:35AM

I still think he has hangover Stockholm syndrome from the North Vietnamese. Only now he sees the lamestream media and democrats as VC...

He did take it for five years, after all.

He just needs to find a new line...

DTOM

TinaB| 9.12.12 @ 9:34AM

She told Huma, just last evening, to call off her dogs. Not.

Parker| 9.12.12 @ 8:12AM

Obama apologizes to Muslims (and blames others) for a video/film which is used by Muslims to justify the attack on an American embassy and the murder of an American Ambassador. In the same groveling pander, Obama states, "...as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions." However, Obama and Sebellius have no problem offending the Catholic Church and its belief, with their health-insurance requirement to pay for contraception and abortion. Would Obama apologize and admit his personal responsibility, if Catholics rioted and burned a few federal buildings? We know he wouldn't and we know the church wouldn't. But, why is it that this man and his hypocrisy continues to go unchallenged? I cannot believe were this anyone but a liberal/fascist/Democrat in the WH, that the story lines would be what they are. Unemployment, food-stamps, food prices, fuel prices, the overall deficit, no budget(s), and now this nonsense. Media ignores it or whitewashes it, as if it is not so bad? And let us not forget Joe Biden and his idiocy. I cannot imagine if Dan Quayle had said any of this stuff what the media would have done to him. Bias is one thing, but this is just pure unadulterated propaganda.

irish19| 9.12.12 @ 10:01AM

The Catholic Church isn't likely to urge Catholics to go out and start killing people and blowing stuff up. That's why they have no problem offending it.

vtwin| 9.12.12 @ 8:21AM

“Tuesday's actions in Egypt and Libya were acts of war against the United States.”

Ross, are you really calling for another war with Muslims or just Obama bashing?

chuck| 9.12.12 @ 8:30AM

I believe he was just stating the facts. They were acts of war, and they need to be treated as such.

MelvinNC| 9.12.12 @ 8:44AM

What the hell do you mean, "Another war with the muslins." That is the whole damn problem we didn't declare war, because if we had, and had the balls to win it, we wouldn't be in this position now.
Has anyone talked to a grunt coming back from Afghanistan and had them tell you the rules of engagement? In nutshell, even though the grunts can see the Taliban burying IED's we cannot shoot them, until they shoot back. The Marines I have talked to say, "The Taliban knows where watching and and they point back at our postilions and laugh their azzes off."
"Another war with the Muslims, give me a break." Because of the political cowards in Washington D.C. this Country doesn't have the balls to finish this what ever that we are involved in. This is the problem when either side isn't truthful in just what the hell is going on.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 10:50AM

They have been at war with us since about 1800. Remember the line from "The Battle Hymn of the Republic"

"...to the shores of Tripoli..."

Wasn't the first engagement fought by US Marines the recovery of US hostages from Libya?

Sometimes, we as a country are just too damn nice!

DTOM

Boar Hunter| 9.12.12 @ 11:18AM

Ignorant, History, Repeated ad-nauseam.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 11:46AM

Explain yourself!

In 1801, the USS President, USS Essex, USS Philadelphia, and USS Enterprise under Commodore Dale attacked the Bey of Tripoli.
In 1802, Commodore Richard V. Morris lead the frigates USS Chesapeake, Constitution, New York, J. Adams, sloops Adams, Enterprise to fight the same place.

In 1803, 1804, and 1805 further fleets were sent to do battle with the Bey.

Gee, lasted about as long as WW II.

Boar man, what's your point?

Don't Tread On Me!

Drunken Sailor| 9.12.12 @ 2:23PM

Slow down DTOM. I think Boar hunter was using short hand for "those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it". The range is all clear.

Boar Hunter| 9.12.12 @ 3:37PM

LOL, Take a pill my friend.

I was agreeing with you. My point is that what you have written is absolutely correct.

It is Obama and his liberal appeasement monkeys who are ignorant of history.

Boar Hunter| 9.12.12 @ 3:46PM

Sorry DTOM, for clarity I was answering you.

I absolutely understand the passion you feel in this dark hour in our history. I am on your side in this matter, if none other.

A further thanks to you Drunken Sailor!

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 9:01AM

I am calling for defending our people and territory with whatever force is necessary. And I am calling for the US to project a different image, i.e. an image of a country which doesn't blame itself first.

And in those calls, I am indeed Obama bashing?

I'm sorry if bashing your guy strikes you as unsporting due to how easy it is, how obvious his failures are.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 9:58AM

Actually, I'm not sorry.

Nancy in NC| 9.12.12 @ 10:02AM

You shouldn't be sorry for speaking the truth.

Wonder what would happen if I go attack my neighbor today because he offended me?

KennesawJack| 9.12.12 @ 10:19AM

Ross, help me out here. Back before Obmarx was sworn in I remember some pundit saying that he would be the first U. S. President to live in exile. Don't remember who it was but am beginning to think I want him to pick some stocks for me. Do you recall hearing that statement?

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 10:34AM

Sorry Jack, haven't heard that one.

Al Adab| 9.12.12 @ 1:32PM

Mr. K:
Both embassy attacks, as you rightly note, are actsd of war. This is all too similar to the situation faced and mishandled by Carter. Romney should understand and act accordingly. Libya and apparently Egypt as well have moved to protect each respective embassy. We could also use the 101 and 82 on site in this situation. Both locations are readily accessible from offshore support ships and open to air drops. Both governments, given their action currently would likely permit (although we could act without) such a defensive action from the US.

Indy| 9.12.12 @ 1:09PM

Exile in Hawaii maybe, interesting story Kevin DuJan has been following, this is part 4 of the series he's been writing

http://hillbuzz.org/why-arent-.....waii-24333

Nancy in NC| 9.12.12 @ 10:01AM

Just the fact this presidential race is close says so much about this country. The guy shouldn't be able to get elected as dog catcher if voters were in their right mind.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 10:23AM

RACIST!

(I'm just preparing you for the inevitable)

Actually. Knowing your Track Record?

Now, might just be the best time for you and the Missus, to book a Vacation in Egypt or Libya.

They sound right up your Get Away Alley, and I'm betting that the Hotel Prices are SO LOW, they'll make your Head Come Off!

And, if they don't?

Someone else will.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 11:12AM

You just can't help yourself, can you Tim!?

KennesawJack| 9.12.12 @ 11:23AM

No, and we don't want him to.

Gary B| 9.12.12 @ 7:12PM

TLP says what I'm thinkin'.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 11:47AM

Hey, Ross, I still love ya.

But, I must tell you, I don't plan on visiting England or France. The curtain is closing for Europe. And the Islamic world is probably going to be out of bounds for a long time.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 12:22PM

I hear ya. And it's quite sad. I lived in Holland for a little while (about a year and a half) right at the beginning of the time that Moroccan (mostly) immigrants were turning parts of Amsterdam into Islamic ghettos.

Geert Wilders is right...

KennesawJack| 9.12.12 @ 1:07PM

My youngest son lives in Germany. Tells me the winds are beginning to blow the other way there so don't write Europe off just yet.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 7:37PM

KJ---from your mouth to G-d's ears---but demographics are against it. I hope your son stays well and healthy and has his bags packed if needed. G-d Bless.

KyMouse| 9.12.12 @ 5:16PM

OccamT, here's a tiny cultural and religious note -- on a trip to England and France in 1978, I purchased as souvenirs small medallions of Thomas Becket (in Canterbury Cathedral) and Joan of Arc (in Notre Dame de Paris). Both medallions were clearly displayed by the boxful in the cathedral book shops.

Three decades later, I visited both cathedrals, and the little medallions were nowhere to be found. When I asked for them, the (very young) clerks looked at me as if I were from outer space.

Just seemed interesting to me.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 7:43PM

KYMouse and Ross: I visited Copenhagen to see my idiot sister in 1997, and it was safe and decent there, and I felt competely comfortable in my Jewish skin.

My sister got her MBA from the University of Odense, Hans Christian Anderson's birthplace. Very safe to be Jewish when she went to school there. By 2009 it was no longer safe to be a Jewish schoolchild there. (Google Jews and Odense)

There's a bad Moon rising. Malignant antisemitism is in the Koran.

Bill8472| 9.13.12 @ 10:46AM

Europe has a distinguished history of fighting Islamic encroachment on its lands. Tours/Poitiers in 732 A.D., the reconquista that ended in 1492 A.D., and Vienna, 1621 A.D., can attest to that.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 1:47PM

C'mon ya girl.

That was funny, and you know it.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 2:41PM

It was closer to funny than you usually get with that line of conversation.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 4:42PM

I like ya.

Grow a Spine.

The reason I Fck with you is because I like ya.

I'm just trying to hold your feet to the ground, less your Swelled Head, from all of the Suck Ups, makes you Float away.

You and me?

We're like Peanut Butter and Jelly.

Or, to put it in your Vacation Reference?

Serengeti Squirrel, and Zebra Spleen Sauce.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 5:23PM

I've eaten zebra! Quite tasty! (And you know I'm not kidding, Tim.)

But please cut down on the potty mouth in the comments, even if you leave out a letter. I'm sure you're clever enough to be just as insulting while still being classy!

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 6:33PM

Touché.

C'mon with the Potty Mouth.

We're all Adults, here.

And I only use Profanity - Minus one Letter - when I think it absolutely, positively, needed.

I'm 55, Wife and Kids, a Military Vet who's done Manual Labour, all my life. I'm a Man, who does Hard Work, in the Company of other Hard Working Men. (Relax Pelleas)

We Swear.

Give me a break, ya Sissy.

I've Earned it.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 6:35PM

Besides, Insulting is an Art, and I demand my Artistic Freedom.

Nick| 9.12.12 @ 7:44PM

I sympathize, Mr. Pennell. I used to swear more than a truck driver and Joe O'Biden combined!

But, it is because of the profanity laced comments on these pages that I have to leave this site when my nieces & nephews come over to visit.

I think that I (and others here) have proved that it is possible to greatly insult stinking liberals without being profane.
Just a little food for thought. Take care.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 7:54PM

Nick, I'm sorry, sire. I will do better. But Cheesehead is such a putrid low life terrorist catamite that I despair sometimes of not using foul language.

N.B., TLP---I just insulted Cheesehead far WORSE and more DISGUSTINGLY than you have ever done, without obvious foul language---I just love the word "catamite"---I don't think Clint, who I applied it to most, ever looked it up, but it is very, very nasty indeed---far worse than puta or pendejo.

You are the master of vulgar Maledicta. Might I suggest a subscription to Maledicta so that you can do it and skirt the bluenoses while getting even filthier? Hell, contact Ken and I may buy it for you if I can have a PO Box.

Nick| 9.12.12 @ 11:12PM

No apology needed, Occam. I wasn't thinking of you when I wrote that. You are pretty much "PG" compared to others here.

Again, I'm not a prude, nor, do I have delicate sensibilities. In my youth, I spoke far worse than the worst offenders here, at AmSpec.
I just wish I didn't have to change the screen when kids are around.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 10:31AM

And anyone NOT recognizing acts of war invites more of the same - especially with the Islamic crew. Remember, over the last thirty some years, every time they probed us with an attack and we did not respond, they elevated their level of attack.

YESTERDAY WAS THE ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11.

If you want peace, prepare for war!

DTOM

Stkman| 9.12.12 @ 10:40AM

VTWIN,
I think the Muslims called for war, we would only be defending our sovereignty. Is that too much for you to understand? Bush told us this war would last beyond our lives. Do you not understand what he was saying? He knew it was a war of religion and culture, why can't you figure that out?

The Big E| 9.12.12 @ 10:48AM

vtwin,

Ross doesn't need to call for "another war with Muslims" because there's been one going on for a couple of decades now.

Here's a clue - if your enemy is a war with you - YOU ARE AT WAR - whether you want to be or not.

2/26/1993 - World Trade Center bombed - 6 dead, over 1000 wounded.

6/25/1993 - Khobar Towers bombed - 19 US Servicemen and 1 Saudi dead, 372 wounded.

8/7/1998 - American Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya bombed - 223 dead, over 4,000 wounded.

10/12/2000 - USS Cole attacked - 17 US sailors dead, 39 wounded.

9/11/2001 - I sure even YOU remember that one.

6/14/2002 - US Consulate in Karachi bombed - 14 dead, 51 wounded.

3/6/2006 - Marriott Hotel in Karachi bombed - 4 dead, 30 wounded.

5/12/2003 - compounds frequented by westerners in Riyadh bombed - 35 dead, 160 wounded.

How many more have to die before you recognize that WE ARE ALREADY AT WAR - WHETHER WE WANT TO BE OR NOT

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 11:45AM

By the way, vtwin, I don't believe in a ground war, boots on the ground response, as I don't care about collateral damage. Lessons must be learned on skin. Blood of civilians may flow.

When Caesar was kidnapped by pirates, he smilingly told them that he was going to crucify them when possible. It was later possible, and he did. For what the Egyptians alloweed, the Aswan dam must be destroyed. Lessons must be learned on skin.

Al Adab| 9.12.12 @ 1:34PM

OT:
Given all this, is it not time for an extended vacation in New Zealand?

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 6:41PM

Collateral Damage, Occam?

Our Fathers and Grandfathers Firebombed Dresden, and Tokyo. They Bombed Berlin into the Stone Age, and Nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and they're called The Greatest Generation.

General Sherman went on a Scorched Earth Campaign, on his March to the Sea, PURPOSEFULLY, to teach the South the Lesson that WAR IS HELL.

My feeling is this: ALL OF THEM, if it keeps our people safe.

Period.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 6:42PM

I still love ya.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 7:49PM

Yes, Blessed TLP, I agree with you. My point is to the pussywillows out there, like, say Jack in Wi, who get affronted if we touch the hair of a wittle terrorist wifikins.

Recall, I'm the guy who likes tacnukes.

Al Adab: New Zealand is a very antisemitic country, powerfully anti-Israel with occasional desecrations of Jewish cemetaries. I lived there for a year. It sucks. I like being back in the USA.

Both you guys: my love back at ya. You are both wonderful, although the Timmaster is nonpareil.

Now excuse me, my DON has e-mailed me a "Smartest Psychiatrist" challenge, which she believes I'll blow away.

spike59| 9.12.12 @ 12:41PM

vtwin-you moron, what else do you call it when our consulate is attacked by an armed mob, and our ambassador and other US officials are murdered????

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 1:50PM

Nothing a Cruise Missile ladened American Submarine couldn't fix in about 5 Minutes.

My Jewish Cousins.

When will you WAKE UP?

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 7:55PM

As Katy Perry would say: "I'm Wide Awake." Even my parents are waking up.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 9.12.12 @ 8:28AM

The initial response from the Embassy in Egypt actually reflects the fundamental difference in the view of the Obama administration on the relationship between the people of the US and its government. These Islamist mobs and attendees of the recent Democratic convention share the belief that the American people belong to the government, therefore, if an offensive film is produced, it is the responsibility of that government, and therefore it’s institution may (and must) be attacked in response. In such a warped view, Obama’s Roanake announcement that you didn’t do that on your own makes him also responsible as an executive producer, and therefore a worthy target.

When considered in this light, his endless apologies for the US (even when we are attacked) take on context. Considering that Obama has taken responsibility for little except the successful military/intelligence raid killing Bin Laden and the GM bail out, it might be philosophically consistent for him to credit himself for getting an ambassador and consular staff killed.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 1:57PM

He's a MUSLIM.

HIS #1 Guy - Valerie Jarret - was Born in Iran.

Hillary Clinton's #1 Guy - Huma Weiner - belongs to a Family that is up to their Asses in The Muslim Brotherhood.

And, his 1 Gal - Fat Assed America Hater - Michelle- said to her husband at last Year's 911 Memorial: "All this for a Flag?"

Fck him.

Fck them.

And, FCK HER.

And, Fck You, if you don't like it.

Too bad.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 9.12.12 @ 2:51PM

Easy, Tim. I would have thought after my defense of you from the assaults of the other day, I would merit you reading my post entirely, and understanding that I suggest Obama’s chickens are coming home to roost. Perhaps my point was unclear. I am suggesting that Obama and the Islamists mobs share the same viewpoint, that the government controls and is responsible for the actions of the American people. That is why they attack our embassy when an American or a group in America create a film they find objectionable, and that is why he apologizes for his country.

To be more clear, I would have been issued a statement from the embassy is I were ambassador, Secretary of State, or POTUS:

The United States of America is a constitutional republic that has enshrined in its constitutional a right which forbids the government from interfering in the exercise of religion and free speech. That includes the ability to offend those who religion differs from our own. If you don’t like it, don’t go there. If you attempt to interfere with it, our citizens or our sovereign territory, we will introduce other parts of our Constitution in a series of seminars, including : Declarations of War/Authorization of Force; Letters of Marque/ Reprisal; and How our Second Amendment Helps to Guarantee our First, concluding with the Commandant of the Marine Corps explaining how “to the Shores of Tripoli” was included in “The Marines Hymn”.

I hope that clears it up.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 4:48PM

This wasn't meant for you.

You're the best!

I think that I might've just put this comment into the wrong slot.

Albert Constantine Jr. I have been, and always shall be, your Friend.

This was never meant for you.

God Bless.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 9.12.12 @ 5:25PM

Thank you for clearing that up. I was worried that I was losing my ability to clearly communicate my message.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 6:44PM

No.

I think it's my inability to put a comment in the right place, after 6 Beers.

Who knew?

JimF| 9.12.12 @ 8:40AM

Oh they have been scrubbed from the Cairo site alright.

Louis Jenkins| 9.12.12 @ 8:40AM

Hillary deplores, Obama condemns the phart who made the movie, and life goes on. What a crock! If you or me expect the democrats to do anything else we're greatly misled. The ambassador will become just an after thought within 24 hours in DC. Allow Americans to get out of Lybia and Egypt within 48 hours, after which time begin the carpet bombing. And don't pull the "you cannot kill innocent citizens" routine. They're all guilty. But Obama will play patticake with the killers. On the anniversary of 9-11 to boot. It was planned.

Anthony| 9.12.12 @ 8:42AM

I guess the "Arab Street" is no longer in love with Obozo, "The One", who the Ds said would change our image abroad.
So much for the Obozo magic bullshit. Amateur is hardly the world to describe this disgrace of a president.
I wouldn't let Obozo even get Slick Willie his coffee, lest he spill the damn cup all over Monica's favorite plaything.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 10:27AM

He HAS changed our Image, abroad.

They don't Fear Us, anymore.

We are, once again, A WEAK HORSE, under a Democrat Regime.

Just don't question their Patriotism.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 10:35AM

Why would they love him?

He is in love with THEM!

And yesterday he discovered that his love is going to go unrequited. Looking forward to frustrated, bitter, old, littlest ex-President Obama with shrewish Moochelle hounding him!

Question who would you rather be married to Rosalyn Carter or Moochelle?

Aaaaaaaaggghhhh!!!

Kill me now!

HeeHaw.

DTOM

Alex Feltham | 9.12.12 @ 8:46AM

This started in Cairo when a mob stormed the US embassy.Then theytore down the stars and stripes, replacing it with a black Al Qaeda monstrosity.

What we will do with that flag tells you all you need to know about the trajectory of this thing.

More at:

http://john-moloney.blogspot.com/

RAM| 9.12.12 @ 9:10AM

So these people react to accusations that they're nuts by aggressively acting out their nuttiness. Not the best way to disprove the thesis. The religion of chip on shoulder.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 10:37AM

RAM, It's NOT a religion it is a political system! Don't let them fool you!

No religion on the planet has corporal punishment as one of its core precepts. None.

This is a political system.

DTOM

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 2:00PM

Actually, it's a Cult of their Ancient Bloodthirsty Pagen Moon God.

Big difference.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 2:22PM

They do have laws, judges, and attempt to rule countries - cults usually revolve around a single charismatic leader. This is bigger.

But I do acknowledge calling them a 'cult' as a diminution of their status.

But I like calling them COWARDS better. Cause they ARE cowards and they would not find "cult" insulting enough...

Keep up the good fight!

Don't Tread On Me!!

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 4:52PM

I regret forgetting to Thank You for having my back the other day.

Thank You.

You are a good friend.

And, I appreciate that.

WRTolkas| 9.12.12 @ 9:12AM

I guess my front yard is safer than a guarded and fenced American Embassy compound.

I'll shoot.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 10:37AM

Unless you are in Illinois....

DTOM

Drunken Sailor| 9.12.12 @ 2:29PM

I'll still shoot. They can arrest me later. Better alive and in court than dead in the ground.

spike59| 9.12.12 @ 4:15PM

you know the old saying: "I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6"

KyMouse| 9.12.12 @ 9:41AM

I just saw, via Drudge, a photo of the body of the ambassador being paraded through the streets.

And our planes are still on the ground?

KennesawJack| 9.12.12 @ 1:11PM

Yes. And under the Muslim-in-Chief, Obamarx, they'll stay there. It is open season on Americans and Obamarx is giving out free hunting licenses.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 4:53PM

Under this Muslim-in-Chief?

Maybe we don't have any Planes, anymore.

Alej| 9.12.12 @ 9:41AM

"But in fact, it needed a few U.S. Marines with HK416s and a set of rules of engagement designed to actually deter those who would do us harm."

Two of the dead were US Marines, and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts their "rules of engagement" precluded loaded weapons. Sadly, Marines Corps embassy guards have evolved into tokens, with local nationals pulling actual guard duty.

The first raghead over the wall should have been blown away, but Hillary wouldn't like that. And the illegal alien in the White House would have said the Marines acted stupidly.

And the ragheads know that for a fact.

Bill8472| 9.12.12 @ 9:48AM

I bet they didn't have H&K 416s either, since they haven't even been adopted yet, much less issued.

And by the way, what makes the HK416 any better than the M4, which is an issue weapon for Marines?

irish19| 9.12.12 @ 10:04AM

Oooo! Time for some gun prOn! I looked at the link and then the link back to the other HK. I suspect that what would make it better is the gas system. That would also allow for a real folding stock instead of the currently collapsible one.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 10:35AM

That's right...it's the gas system.

Bill: You are such a detail monger. I didn't say the Marines used that particular weapon; simply that I thought it would be a suitable tool for the situation.

Bill8472| 9.12.12 @ 10:50AM

Okay, sorry.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 11:49AM

Weasel Zippers has the best war porn, guys.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 2:12PM

What?

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 7:57PM

TLP: you wanna watch Taliban scum getting blown up, go over to the blog Weasel Zippers. I think you'll like Zip, the blogmaster.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 5:25PM

They're making a civilian version, MR556. I want one!

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 6:47PM

The frightening thing is, you can probably afford one.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 8:28PM

TLP: Ross is not the only rich guy here.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 9.12.12 @ 10:54AM

Alej;

Your comment brings to light an interesting point. If this administration cares little about the sovereignty of our actual borders, how would we expect it to care about sovereign territory within embassy walls. I suppose we should be grateful that consular staff wasn’t in the courtyard to greet the rioters who breached the wall with green cards, voter registration for Dearborn, in-state tuition rates to Michigan State and a map to Terry Jones’ home in Florida.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 6:48PM

The day isn't over yet.

Pecos Pete| 9.12.12 @ 9:41AM

And now it is the USA's southern border that will be next in turn for a wee bit of invasion by those nice folks with the RPGs, etc.

Anyone seen any Muslin Moderates asking for some calmness?

Some (all?) of the nice folks in our state department and department of justice(?) are simply asking that we give our treasure (it ain't nothing but the loot we stole over the past 100 years, right?) to the poor folks of the world and the downtrodden in the USA.

Shucks, just look at those poor teachers in Chicago having to go on strike for a measly 16% pay increase.

Cities declaring bankruptcy, federal government $16 trillion ++ in current debt. Soviet style health care (it is free, you know).

And now the peace loving religion is killing state department employees without retaliation.

Obama is responsible. And still there are American Voters willing and wanting to vote for this Marxist anti-American person.

Unbelievable.

Al Adab| 9.12.12 @ 1:37PM

Pete:
Yesterday or the day before, Mexican authorities arrested three members of Hezbollah, including an American citizen attempting to enter the US illegally. I do not think they were trying for those landscaping jobs Americans won't do.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 9.12.12 @ 9:37PM

"Shucks, just look at those poor teachers in Chicago having to go on strike for a measly 16% pay increase."

In a comment very tangential to everything else on the thread, my understanding is that both sides have agreed over the pay increase. The strike is due to disagreement on the evaluation system. The teachers are abandoning their posts because they claim Rahmbo is bullying them on how they'll be rated.

Who Knows?| 9.12.12 @ 9:42AM

Last time I checked, 91% of the women in Egypt STILL had no clitoris, after Muslim men sliced them off.

Just so, members of that totalitarianism, masquerading as a religion named Islam, have almost no free will, after previously brainwashed Moslems sliced their minds away. Convert, or die!

Would you like to visit Egypt’s pyramids and other places of antiquity? I understand the land area called Libya also has many outstanding ruins. How about tripping about there?

How do you handle a screaming two-year-old? Isolate them-- by all means get them away from the valuable china!

The softies like Barrack-Hillary et al, even as they can’t help but realize what a problem a nuclear Iran would be, and so rely on sanctions, are on to something profound.

Iran having nuclear weapons would be terrible. Humans having Islam as a religion IS worse!

Relationships, for individuals as well as nations, like most everything else, have risks AND rewards. It’s getting close to the time to seriously re-weigh these, when it comes to Islamic countries.

It sure seems to me that there is hardly ANY reward in “touching” Egypt, say, in any way, shape or form, and there is mostly deadly risk.

Just stop selling them coca cola!

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 10:40AM

Actually, I believe their mothers sliced those delicates off of those besieged women...at the behest of their fathers.

Ick - and they are coming to a mosque near you soon...

DTOM

Who Knows?| 9.12.12 @ 10:55AM

Really?

That's even WORSE!

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 2:23PM

They are Evil and cowardly!

Usbek de Perse| 9.12.12 @ 11:15AM

Dude! When was the last time you had a chance to inspect to clitorises of 90% of Egyptian women?

KennesawJack| 9.12.12 @ 1:14PM

Damn, Usbek. You could have gone all day without giving us that visual.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 9.12.12 @ 5:28PM

Of course, with all that amateur surgery and inspection, it begins to explain why there is a preoccupation with the belief that they can assemble 72 virgins per martyr.

Bill8472| 9.12.12 @ 9:44AM

"Large mobs" attacked U.S. embassies in Libya and Egypt, protesting a YouTube film that mocked Muhammed?

Where were all those MODERATE Muslims while the mobs were killing several U.S. diplomats?

Did any Muslim moderate point out that it's a bit incongruous for mobs to attack U.S. diplomatic facilities and kill U.S. diplomats over a film that was not made by the U.S. government and shown on any U.S. government forum?

I don't suppose anyone has yet made the connection that the day of the Muslims mobbing U.S. government facilities and killing U.S. functionaries happened to be September 11, have they? I think this was 9/11 Muslim Memorial Day for them.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 10:42AM

They were praising Allah and passing the ammunition...

What are moderates in this country doing?

Praising Allah and withholding the ammunition?

DTOM

Bill8472| 9.12.12 @ 10:56AM

The "moderates" in this country have been coming up with excuse after excuse for the past 11 years or more why the U.S. should not take strong and violent steps to deal with the never-ending Muslim attacks on American interests. In my opinion, they have been quite vocal.

Unlike the so-called Muslim moderates. Right now, we're living through Muslims attacking U.S. diplomats. Today. When do you think some Muslim moderate spokesman will step forward to point out that the U.S. government and its diplomats had nothing to do with the alleged cause of the mobbings? When will that happen?

Suppose my guess turns out to be correct, that the mobbing really is caused by some sort of Muslim desire to act out on 9/11. When do you think we will hear or see a Muslim moderate spokesman talk about that?

I bet you we'll NEVER see or hear that at all.

Nancy in NC| 9.12.12 @ 10:05AM

I pray Obama will continue his appeasement policy. A war would almost guarantee his reelection.

Anthony| 9.12.12 @ 12:57PM

I pray Obozo does what his heart tells him to do; go over to Egypt, pull out his prayer rug, and join the terrorists in solidarity!!!

Stkman| 9.12.12 @ 10:07AM

Ross,
That was a very well worded commentary on yesterdays events.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 10:36AM

Thank you, sir. I have to say I was hoping it didn't come across as too emotional, as I was not exactly feeling calm when I wrote it.

Kwan| 9.12.12 @ 10:13AM

It appears that Obama intends to implement the "Carter-Clinton Ostrich Strategy" in dealing with these maddog Muslim mobs. In other words put your head in the sand and hope that somehow things will be allright. Carter gave us the Ayatollah. Clinton's weakness in dealing with Islamic Jihadist attacks throughout his administration led to 9-11. Obama's incompetence will lead to war in the Middle East. When will the American voters learn not to elect these Democrats? Just a reminder: On January 20, 1981, minutes after Carter's term in office ended, the 52 U.S. captives held at the U.S. embassy in Iran were released, ending the 444-day Iran hostage crisis. The Iranians knew that Reagan wasn't going to be a patsy like Carter.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 10:43AM

They'll see Romney as the same...

Houdini| 9.12.12 @ 10:35AM

As I've posted on a number of occasions, these people seem to want war and martyrdom....it's high time we showed them what total war looks like. Without the lawyers of course.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 10:37AM

They don't just "seem" to want war and martyrdom. They explicitly want it. They want the whole world Muslim or dead.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 10:44AM

Yeah, they cannot be very bright though. Their idea of heaven is 72 virgins? Good Lord, the whining, arguing, bitching, moaning, blah, blah blah...

Seventy-two virgins? Something only an idiot could love...

DTOM

Stkman| 9.12.12 @ 10:50AM

They will most likely get their wish, one way or another.

Alan| 9.12.12 @ 11:26AM

Thats been the whole concept from the beginning of this "religion" from the get go. They don't make any secret about it, its the idiots who refuse to believe what they plainly say outright. Thats always the case in history, pretend its not what it is and it will go away.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 11:52AM

You see how Doc Ock becomes more and more reasonable as time goes on? Folks, predicting violence is part of what I do for a living. Easier done with mobs than individuals. What happened in Egypt and Bengazi was easily predictable and expected.

Apply the lessons of WWII and we will breathe easier and sleep better. I'm glad to see Ross is swinging around to my position. I wonder what it will take to get Reid Smith to fall out of love with his friends?

Alan| 9.12.12 @ 12:25PM

You deal with these animals like the Mongols dealt with the Muslim Khwarazm empire after they executed the Mongol envoys to the Shah. They decimated this entire empire from one end to the other and sent 20,000 horsemen with the solo mission of chasing down the shah and bringing his head back and they chased him hundreds of miles to death. Message: Kill our envoys and its war to the death. Easy message to understand.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 2:14PM

Blackjack Pershing.

Look it up.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 9.12.12 @ 5:31PM

I believe the Army ultimately incorporated his technique for the Quartermaster Corps to detail uses for pig fat beyond lubrication and cooking purposes.

Houdini| 9.12.12 @ 3:43PM

Ross,
Sorry, "seem" should have been "apparently"

Wayne Nall Jr | 9.12.12 @ 10:58AM

Excellent article! I quoted you in my blog post. Thanks! http://waynenalljr.blogspot.com/

Bill8472| 9.12.12 @ 11:08AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYXdk-qTl5U

Usbek de Perse| 9.12.12 @ 11:13AM

Twitter is a bad place for diplomatic statements, and US personnel and missions should not use it.

We need a cogent and effective way to call out radical stupidity among some Muslims. Recent events remind us that uneducated (or madrasa educated) Muslims gladly take to the streets to protest the smallest conceivable slights to Muhammad, the Qur'an, or Islam. They exile Christian families accused (wrongly) of desecrating the Qur'an. They manage to get Muslims killed because some Florida nut-case pastor wants to burn the Qur'an.

Muslims should recognize that if Muhammad is who they say he is, then he is far beyond the ability of the devils in the West do denigrate. They should chill out.

But the attack in Benghazi was likely an attempt to wound the United States on 9/11 orchestrated by supporters of Muammar Ghadaffi. Much more like premeditated murder.

Boar Hunter| 9.12.12 @ 11:30AM

"Some" muslims?

Glad you cleared that up. I feel a lot better knowing that it's just some muslims.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 2:26PM

Yeah, it's the ones with pulses that are the problem...

DTOM

Public Defendet| 9.12.12 @ 11:16AM

IMHO, Iran is behind this. Storming the embassay, is one of those Iranian ploys. Being on September 11, the attacks were not spontaneous. The attacks also appear to be designed to deflect attention away from Iran's nuclear weapons development.

Public Defender| 9.12.12 @ 11:54AM

Ross, this was an excellent article. Since our embassy was vacant in Cairo, I suspect our people knew about that one, but not the Libya attack. Comparisons between this event and others that Iran has orchestrated are too similar. Iran likes to use proxies to do their work and to distract international attention. As when Iran had Hezbollah attack Israel in 2006, because pressure was mounting over Iran's weapons program. This is no different.

Mimi | 9.12.12 @ 11:17AM

America is OUTRAGED...On 9/11 was the kicker!
The Pres. better get busy....The deliberate attack in LIBIA with loss of life...The massacre of the AMERICAN FLAG...calls for more response than blame for the U.S.A....This has .....ALL of AMERICA...angered beyond anything I've seen !

Mistral| 9.12.12 @ 11:41AM

This is what happens when misdirected western nations help causes they do not understand. The so-called "arab-spring" has nothing to do with a popular insurrectionist movement for "democracy" and what Americans think is "freedom". What has America learned form history? A very resounding nothing! Iraq is an expensive mess; Afghanistan an expensive failure. Your enemies enemy is not necessarily your friend. Al-Q is benefiting from all the US aid sent to Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria etc., etc. Of course, anyone with a little common sense would have known this was going to happen. Why? because it has happened before. How can a govt be so dumb?

Mistral| 9.12.12 @ 11:45AM

You see, Ghaddafi, Assad, Saddam Hussein etc., all had their uses until someone in an office in USA & EU with a misplaced tortured sense of liberal humanistic guilt decided it was time to change things. Now the Pandora's Box has been opened yet again by people who learn absolutely nothing from the past.

Boar Hunter| 9.12.12 @ 11:59AM

I am so happy things are not like they were when evil Bush Hitler was in office. Now that Obama is in charge, so much has been done to change our status on the world stage.

Has Obama's position of Muslim outreach and deferential treatment not truly ensured our favored status in their hearts and minds?

If buying the hearts and minds of these sub-humans were possible, "Black Jesus" would have seen it was done.

But what has all his bowing and apologizing to Islam brought him? What has he received in exchange for turning NASA into National Muslim Outreach? What has he received for all his praise of their beautiful, peaceful religion? What has he bought all of his extravagant parties in the White House and the billions sent to these sub-human primitives?

It looks to me like the only thing he paid for was Romney's election as president.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 12:06PM

Barack's lead among Jews has plunged 19%. And the Republicans will be voting for Romney, whereas the Dhimmis may not vote.

KennesawJack| 9.12.12 @ 1:20PM

Occam, no offense intended, but I'll believe the Jewish vote when I see it. It needs to swing away from the Dems but it never seems to, at least to any large degree. However, this snub of Netanyahu may be the catalyst to finally get some of them to come to their senses. Although, I gotta tell you. One of my best friends (also my attorney - yeah, I know. Who has attorneys for friends?) still thinks Obamarx hung the moon. I just don't get it.

KennesawJack| 9.12.12 @ 1:24PM

And since I brought up the snub of Netanyahu, anyone wanna bet Obamarx doesn't meet with Morsi in New York?

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 6:51PM

Meet with him?

He'll probably FEEL HIM UP in the Cab.

How's that, Ross?

Better?

Gary B| 9.12.12 @ 7:19PM

TLP, I swear to God, you missed your calling.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 8:01PM

KJ: I WON'T take that bet.

And, knowing this will surprise people, I think Tom Kratman hung the moon, and he not only is a Lt. Colonel (ret) who led a battalion, he, too, is an attorney. But he hates the law.

Let's wait and see on the Jewish vote. You may be right. However, I predict the lowest Jewish vote turnout in many years. They may not vote against Obama, but they may not show up, period.

Trinacria| 9.12.12 @ 12:18PM

Ross,
There was a time not too long ago when I would have agreed with 100% of what you said in the column. I would have reacted to the fact that there was no defense of US soverign soil nor any hint of retaliation with shock and outrage. Regrettably, I have over the last 3+ years come to accept the lamentable fact that there's nothing left worth defending. When a nation so shamefully abandons its responsibility to choose it's leaders with due regard to the likely consequences of their choices (can anyone really claim to be surprised by any of the monumental and catastrophic failures of this weak and feckless administration?), it has in effect issued its surrender and declared itself no longer worthy of defending.

spike59| 9.12.12 @ 12:45PM

i understand where you're coming from; that's why we need every man jack (and woman jill) we can muster on Nov 6 to oust the POS pretender, take back the Senate, hold the House, and restore our nation before it's too late-we cannot wait until 2016

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 12:49PM

While I understand your fatalism, I can't agree that this means that those working for our country don't deserve the best protection possible. These are after all individuals with families who were killed, not theoretical victims.

MelvinNC| 9.12.12 @ 1:13PM

They were not killed Ross, they were murdered by Iranian Al Quds. That is why the Ambassador was suffocated, it leaves no evidence trail.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 2:29PM

Mel,

Have you seen any 411 on the suffocation aspect?

DTOM

Kingofthenet| 9.12.12 @ 12:23PM

Just for the record the Florida Pastor only has tangential involvement in the film, it was produced and bankrolled by California Jews, and the reason the clip has spurred outrage NOW instead of when it was made, was the trailer was in English, but someone just recently dubbed it in Arabic.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 12:50PM

I did not mention the Florida pastor, and the dubbing is a convenient excuse that I don't believe is a significant factor.

Drunken Sailor| 9.12.12 @ 2:36PM

As one caller to Rush stated. They could have just as easily been offended about Obama bragging about killing Osama. The film was just a excuse. This has been planned for some time.

Kingofthenet| 9.12.12 @ 3:29PM

This may be true, anyway we really need to beef up security at these Embassies.

Drunken Sailor| 9.12.12 @ 4:23PM

One of the few times I agree with you.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 8:07PM

I disagree. We need to destroy a few Islamic cities, let them know there's more where that came from, and LOWER security at the Embassies. Let them know the consequences ON THEIR SKINS. Enough of being on the Defense. The Best D-fense is a Good O-Fense. if they know that killing a few of our Embassy people will bring a rain of hell on, say, the Aswan Dam, Mecca, Riyadh, Teheran, etc. They will stop. Personally, I think three strikes: one and two, carpet bomb Teheran and Bengazi (or Nuke) and three, OBLITERATE the Aswan Dam, will do for starters.

The damage should be horribly asymetrical. We can do this easily. All we lack is the will. And now is the perfect time to do it, preferably while Morsi's plane is in the air.

What Would Alexander Magnus Do?

John786| 9.12.12 @ 1:00PM

The mentally deranged on this site are no different to the fanatics they allegedly despise.

DTOM| 9.12.12 @ 2:37PM

NO John!

We will leave them alone if they stop it. But they won't. They kidnapped our people in 1800 and they have attacked repeatedly ever since.

Answer this question, do you really think the US would have gone into Iraq and Afghanistan if 3,000 INNOCENT Americans, going about their own business, in their own country, doing nothing to bother Islam were not murdered by Islamicists in 2001?

Do you really think they should have been murdered? If you do, then you are the enemy. There is no excuse for launching surprise attacks targeting innocent, unarmed, non-combatants. None.

That's cowardly because Islamicists are COWARDS. Girlie little cowards who don't dare take on a fair fight. COWARDS!

Muslim men cannot let women testify, own property, or compete with them. Muslim men are cowardly!!!!

Don't Tread On Me!

spike59| 9.12.12 @ 4:58PM

Kudos, John...the first step towards recovery is admitting you have a problem...well done

MelvinNC| 9.12.12 @ 1:11PM

Why was the Ambassador suffocated? It leaves no marks. Where is all the cell phone pictures that Libyans like to take and upload to facebook and utube hmm.
People listen to me. This attack was a coordinated Iranian Al Quds (special forces) operation. Is it a coincidence to coincide with 9-11? It is difficult to hit us here, but it is easy to hit us over seas.
This whole Arab Spring idea that the media is having orgasms over is fake propaganda.
There are reports coming out of Libya now that there is evidence of coordination of forces that were used to murder, yes I said murder four American citizens.
But unfortunately America is more enamored with that whore of a mother who goes by the name Kardashian. Than the world that is quickly crumbling around them.

Indy| 9.12.12 @ 1:15PM

Attacks occurred on September 11th- coincidence? I think not...interesting post to see the schedule of missed daily briefings...too busy out campaigning I guess
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012.....t-attacks/

HT PJM / Breitbart

Mark Levin is the only person I am aware of who constantly discusses O's White House schedule. Heading to Las Vegas to campaign today? not Presidential at all.

Indy| 9.12.12 @ 1:24PM

This is spreading to other countries, pray for our Marines, they are the tip of the spear. Several blogs are providing excellent coverage, I don't bother with the MSM
http://weaselzippers.us/

lots of pics at UK site-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....Libya.html

Indy| 9.12.12 @ 1:28PM

notice the Occupy langage / masks

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/0.....ssy-walls/

Only 50 Marines? Dear God protect them!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-G.....Into-Libya

Indy| 9.12.12 @ 1:30PM

curses, meant "language" sorry for the error, in a rush to get back to work.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 2:19PM

I do pray for our Marines.

I Pray that they get the Chance to KILL everyone of these MFERS.

SEMPER FI.

Houdini| 9.12.12 @ 3:49PM

TLP,
I'm concerned for our Marines.....the appeasers in charge and their lawyers have ROE's designed to kill Marines rather than rag heads. Notice no body count of "protesters" in Libya or Egypt.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 4:57PM

God works in Mysterious ways.

This might be the last Nail in the Coffin, that Sinks this Son of a Communist Atheist Whore.

Let's Hope So.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 5:28PM

Tim, on behalf of atheists, I take offense to that, not least as someone who grew up on and near Camp Pendleton.

Actually, your statement might be offensive to whores as well. What did they ever do that is nearly as bad as what Obama has done?

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 6:56PM

Are you kidding me?

You're an Atheist?

C'mon.

What did Whores ever do?

The Clap comes to mind.

An Atheist.

No wonder you spend so much time in HELLholes.

GO TO CHURCH!

Gary B| 9.12.12 @ 8:04PM

I'll take an atheist over a Muslim any day. And, like marijuana, prostitution should be legal. This is an area that hurts Republicans. They say they support the Constitution, but it doesn't say anything about legislating morality.

cicero| 9.12.12 @ 1:26PM

We have to see this for what it is. This is the beginning of a general war to establish the callifate, and for who will be running it. The so called Arab Spring was started by the Muslim Brotherhood to clear the decks of the weak rulers. The Brotherhood is now in a position to start a general war to take over everything from the Balkans to the Atlantic coast of Africa. They have just shown how powerful they are in their sphere of influence. They took on the Superpower in their midst, and won. They struck a blow for all of Islam.
The next move will be to overthrow the kingdoms, and any dictatorship still standing. Any nascient democracy is toast. They know that the U.S. will not intervene. After all, the U.S. didn't even defend its own embassies. They have all of the weapons that had been supplied during the Spring. They will nott be fighting the West, but only the non-Brotherhood regimes. Once in power, they have all the oil wealth with which to further their conquests. This will not be pretty. Europe had better by paying attention.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 2:21PM

And, we have a FOX in the Hen House.

If you get my drift.

Houdini| 9.12.12 @ 3:56PM

You are referring to our Fox that is bent on keeping us dependant on middle-eastern oil, thus assisting the Brotherhood by insuring we won't upset the cartel oilcart.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 4:58PM

Indeed.

Gary B| 9.12.12 @ 8:05PM

I wonder how much foreign money is going into the Obama campaign?

Houdini| 9.12.12 @ 3:53PM

And when they accomplish their goal and control most of the oil production, and the Iranians give or sell them the bomb, we can look forward to buying our prayer rugs...or gravestones.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 5:28PM

Cicero: it's "caliphate"...just for future reference

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 6:57PM

NOBODY likes a Spelling Nazi.

Nobody.

Gary B| 9.12.12 @ 8:09PM

By the way, the best spell checker is Google. Proper names - anything - it'll give you the answer.

For example: "Spelling Nazi" - Is Nazis or Nazis' the way to spell Nazi in the plural? In: English Spelling and Pronunciation [Edit categories]. Answer: Nazis (without an apostrophe) is the ...

MelvinNC| 9.12.12 @ 1:32PM

First the Democrats use Soviet ships as a symbol of Communist military power at they're convention, and now four Americans get murdered by Iranian AlQuds, and the President and the State department come up with some ho hum response.
How are the grieving wives supposed to accept this? How do they tell their children that their fathers were murdered like cowering scared dogs in the corner of that building, because they were under orders from the world's smartest woman Hillary Clinton who just happens to be the SoS not to return fire and take as many as those Islamic Sons of Bitches with them until they're ammunition was exhausted.
Yea, it's hard to tell ones' son or daughter that there father wasn't given the decency of being able to protect himself.
What is the common denominator to all this? The common denominator to this is....Democrat.
The Democrat leadership of this Country finds it perfectly acceptable that fellow murdered Americans can be used as media fodder for political purposes.
Maybe that person who said, "These are not the Democrats of your grandfather." Seems like that person is correct.

Stan Redmond| 9.12.12 @ 1:52PM

What a disgusting week. Our shameful president is running around with a limping pimp and David Letterman.

Meanwhile, our light worker president a 1 minute address on 9-11, Islamists ransack our territory and murder our citizens. Iran is nuking up. Egypt, Syria, Libya are all controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood.

HOW CAN ANYONE DEFEND THIS PRESIDENT!!!???

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 2:21PM

SIC SEMPER TYRANNUS!

Kingofthenet| 9.12.12 @ 3:19PM

I saw absolutely NOTHING wrong with what our Egyptian Embassy put out BEFORE the attacks, it was a nod to the responsible use of our First Amendment Freedoms.Just because you CAN say something, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

spike59| 9.12.12 @ 4:55PM

of COURSE you saw nothing wrong...that further defines you as a dolt

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 4:59PM

He's not The Kingofthenuts for nothing.

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 5:30PM

King, your view is, in my view, incorrect. As I mentioned, the language regarding "abusing" is inappropriate for any government agency to use. Once you say that anything other than calling for violence or causing likely and imminent harm (due to the rational actions of rational people, such as the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" exception) is "abuse", you open the door to tyranny.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 9.12.12 @ 5:36PM

"such as the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" exception"

Mr. Kaminsky, I feel obliged each time I see the usage of the above phrase to point out that shouting fire in a crowded theater is not prohibited (it is in fact encouraged in some circumstances, such as an actual fire). It is the false shout of fire which is proscribed.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 7:00PM

He's an Atheist, Albert.

"Fire in a Theatre" is the least of his problems.

REPENT, Kaminsky.

REPENT.

Kingofthenet| 9.12.12 @ 3:19PM

I saw absolutely NOTHING wrong with what our Egyptian Embassy put out BEFORE the attacks, it was a nod to the responsible use of our First Amendment Freedoms.Just because you CAN say something, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

Bob Grant| 9.12.12 @ 3:27PM

"Just because you CAN say something, doesn't mean you SHOULD."

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Indeed. Perhaps this should be applied to silly comments as well.

spike59| 9.12.12 @ 4:12PM

too bad the appeasenik dolt in charge of embassy press releases doesn't follow that maxim

Mistral| 9.12.12 @ 3:52PM

It is obvious the mahomaten world will be extremely disturbed by the public statement of POTUS. They already know he is one of them. he will not really do anything but expel hot air over the issue. Nearly four years later, The USA has experienced change under its first Kenyan non-American socialist president. When socialists like Hollande of France give esteemed awards such as the "Legion d'Honeur" to the likes of Paul McCartney because he likes him then you know that once in power, the left are capable of doing anything but what is required and of achieving nothing.

Kingofthenet| 9.12.12 @ 4:11PM

ANYBODY who considers the 'Book Of Mormon' and the 'Book of Abraham' sacred scripture should be VERY careful with the rocks they throw...

Kingofthenet| 9.12.12 @ 4:21PM

Why is Fox News showing a picture of our Libyan Ambassador dead....it's a DISGRACE!

Drunken Sailor| 9.12.12 @ 4:25PM

No, its reality. Don't cover it up. Show the cold hard ugly truth to clear up any doubts about what we are up against.

TLP| 9.12.12 @ 5:00PM

Exactly.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 8:12PM

Yes, the death of our Ambassador is a disgrace, and onbe we need to avenge upon the Libyan people, "to encourage the others." I think 1 million Libyan dead is the correct balance, if 1000 Palestinian terrorists equals 1 Israeli soldier in an exchange.

I didn't set the exchange rate---they did.

But showing it is a correct use of the Press, and not disgraceful at all.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 8:26PM

Sorry:"one we need to avenge."

Kingofthenet| 9.12.12 @ 4:43PM

A statement released on the behalf of the 80 cast and crew members of "Innocence of Muslims," a film that reportedly prompted Tuesday protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, indicates that they are not happy with the film and were misled by the producer.

"The entire cast and crew are extremely upset and feel taken advantage of by the producer. We are 100% not behind this film and were grossly misled about its intent and purpose," the statement says. "We are shocked by the drastic re-writes of the script and lies that were told to all involved. We are deeply saddened by the tragedies that have occurred."

If you LISTEN to the film, it sounds like they dubbed in the words 'Mohammad' and a lot of the controversial dialog, AFTER it was made unbeknown to the actors.

Jack London| 9.12.12 @ 4:46PM

Kaminsky says being offensive isn't abusing free speech. That sounds as though he thinks that the right of free speech doesn't come with any responsibilities or consequences. Clearly, in today's world, there are things said at home that put American lives in danger abroad.

spike59| 9.12.12 @ 4:52PM

funny how that sentiment fades whenever someone like Kerry or Carter or Clinton or Gore or Pelosi or Reid decide to flap their gums, like they did during the entirety of Dubya's 2 terms...back then it was called 'patriotism'....

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 5:31PM

Jack, you don't have a right not to be offended. The times when free speech comes with responsibilities or consequences are VERY limited, as they should be. You would think that a liberal like you would be much stronger on this issue.

Jack London| 9.12.12 @ 6:04PM

Ross - you dodged the point. Do you think attacking the Islamic religion at this particular time carries no responsibility and poses no dangers to Americans?

Thom| 9.12.12 @ 6:25PM

You think people in foreign countries have a right to decide what our laws are?

What you call a religion has an 800 year history of violence within and without. Any excuse has always been good enough going back as far as there are records on Islam.

Gary B| 9.12.12 @ 8:24PM

Throttling back on free speech is appeasement. When the hell has that ever worked? I think it's high time we Americans start getting offended, especially American conservatives. I'm offended when that Muslim horse's ass in the White House makes fun of rural citizens "clinging to their guns and bibles." I'm offended at the mere sight of that traitor. And, quite frankly, I think it's the responsibility of free people everywhere to attack a so-called religion that terrorizes and tortures women for the fun of it. What kind of man tortures and kills his own daughter in the name of religion? Making fun of those reptiles should be a new reality TV show. I wish I could get them all on the same bus.

spike59| 9.13.12 @ 6:18AM

care to point out a 'particular time' when these nutjobs WEREN'T prone to mindless violence whenever their widdle feewings were hurt?

JD| 9.12.12 @ 7:37PM

Pitiful, Jack. Your side is the first to claim "free speech" defenses for the horribly offensive things you say to Christians. You're two-faced on the issue.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 8:16PM

Only because wimps like you, Mr. London, refuse to properly defend free speech.

If a Muslim wishes to scream obscenities against the US, that is his right of free speech. If he is moved to violent action, then our government should respond the way Julius Caesar did to the pirates who kidnapped him: crucify him. (Reading Suetonius is a good way to spend one's time in college)

Destroying one's enemy asymmetrically is a great way to get them to stop attacking you. How many Japanese Kamikaze attacks have we had to deal with since August 1945?

But if you sit around and think your farts smell like roses while wondering why vermin hate you, you're not going to get very far.

Occam's Tool| 9.14.12 @ 6:46PM

Actually, Jack, with VERY few exceptions, none of which you have named, the right of free political speech is pretty damn absolute. Giving away military secrets is an exception that I can think of (shouting "fire" is not political free speech).

But NOTHING discussed here on this string, and nothing those filmmakers did, would fall under ANYTHING but 100% protected political free speech.

SCREW THEIR SENSIBILITIES. If my dear friend Nick has to put up with a "Piss Christ," then Muslims need to put up with denigrations of Mohammed. If they can't without violence, then they need to be spanked. If they are spanked hard enough, then no Americans will be put at risk.

They are willing to put up a tremendous assault for the least of their principles. You are so desirous of avoiding violence that you will not lift a finger to support the MOST important of yours. Don't you see a problem with that? I do.

The right to be abusive is one that the Muslims freely grant themselves, incidentally. Well, I despise their prophet and the flea bitten syphilitic camel he rode in on. I am trying to be as abusive as I can without using foul language---and what I just said is COMPLETELY protected speech.

Jack London| 9.12.12 @ 4:49PM

And I would like to know what he would do in a foreign consulate facing a a mob. Would he tweet something like 'the filmmaker had every right to offend the prophet'?

spike59| 9.12.12 @ 4:53PM

tweet? why waste valuable shooting time with tweeting?

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 5:32PM

Because the president has taken your bullets away?

Jack London| 9.12.12 @ 6:06PM

That's the kind of facile response we expect from you. What would you have done in Cairo as it was clear the mood was changing?

Ross Kaminsky| 9.12.12 @ 6:57PM

"Jack", I'm not sure I understand your question. If you mean at the embassy, I would have put marines with scary-looking rifles in front of the building and then done what I already said in the article. Shoot the first person to touch our flag, but just to injure, and shoot the second one to kill. My one caveat is that the embassy needs to have enough people with enough firepower to defend the situation if the crowd goes crazy. It doesn't take too many Marines to stop a mostly unarmed crowd. If the "protesters" are armed, then it's already an attack, not a protest, and of course all the armed "protesters" should be decapitated with high-speed lead (although a center-of-mass shot might make more sense, once the drama of exploding heads is not working to subdue the crowd.)

How's that?

Nick| 9.12.12 @ 7:35PM

There is no shoot to injure, Mr. Kaminsky.
That is Hollywood clap-trap.

You either shoot to kill, or you don't shoot. Period.

MK48| 9.12.12 @ 8:27PM

Ross.......you did it I think you broke the post meter (387) posts.

Gary B| 9.12.12 @ 8:30PM

Yes, shooting to wound is unrealistic. That is Hollywood clap-trap. Water canons would work as a first response. Then, follow up with flame throwers. That would be a first class education. And, since when do the Marines have to take responsibility for what a dumb ass filmmaker does?

Occam's Tool| 9.14.12 @ 6:56PM

Nick, let me just take a moment to tell you what a wonderful exemplar you are of Roman Catholic proselytizing: kind in your views, loyal to your friends, decent all around. G-d Bless and have a great weekend.

Life is very short. Unless one has to, one should be as kind as possible, (In the situation overseas, one has no choice but to be brutal, as sheepdogs are brutal to wolves.) and one should tell great people how wonderful they are.

Same to you, TLP, and you, Boar, and you, Spike, and you, Albert, and you, MK, and you, Stan, and you, KJ, and you, Russ.

I probably forgot some (not you, Mistral, or you, Cheesehead, or you, 786). This Blog allows for some relaxation of anger and some intellectual amusement, in terrible times. This weekend I'm going to work on training my girl cat to come to me when I call more reliably. I'm also going to watch "Abraxas," which is a dreadful film with the loudest mouthed SEAL and Novelty governor of all time playing a moronic role, while the MST3K guys take him down.

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 8:25PM

Ross: soldiers are trained to hit the center of mass. When the adrenaline flows, there is no shoot to injure. Unlike you, I have worked in maximum security prison settings.

Shoot to kill, anyway. I am tired of being nicey-nicey.

Occam's Tool| 9.14.12 @ 6:48PM

With proper ammunition and sufficient rifles---started killing scum.

Without that, say "nice doggie" while searching for a rock. What bothers me about Obama is that he's not searching for the damn rock...

Thom| 9.12.12 @ 6:11PM

Ross, we have a long history of effectively taking the bullets away from our “marines”. Beirut and the attack on the Cole were both preventable events but polices put in place enabled both to happen. Looks like we just pay our enemies to guard us now…

spike59| 9.14.12 @ 12:28PM

if so, your people 'over there' are truly in over their heads...let me put it to you this way: when i served overseas, our 'issued weapons' were locked in the arms room, and we had to wait for the armorer to get cleared for access, and then issue the weapons; however, i didn't know a single individual who didn't have their own firearm, loaded and ready for use 24/7...when you're in hostile territory, you have to be a bit more resourcerful

Thom| 9.12.12 @ 6:14PM

What would you do facing a mob Jack? Doesn't matter why or where. What?

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 8:22PM

Yup. I would do precisely that tweet, only I would add that the rioters better back off if they want to keep the Nile useful. And then, if they continued, I would have my government respond as Putin has done to Chechnya, except that Putin was a puss-puss to them compared to what I would do. 1 megaton groundburst, which is what Carter should have done to Teheran. If he had done that, we would have lost a few hundred casualties in the embassy; 9/11 would never have happened, nor the 1st or 2nd Gulf wars.

I believe in the Max Bialystok approach: "If you've got it, flaunt it." The correct response to the Egyptian embassy assault was to take out the Aswan dam. Preferrably while Morsi was flying to New York. Then greet his plane with US fighters and force him down, preferrably by blasting the afterburners into the cockpit window, if necessary.

These people understand NOTHING else.

Thom| 9.12.12 @ 5:33PM

I see an opportunity to save billions on unneeded security at US embassies and minor diplomatic posts. I would recommend we appoint "Jack of Wi" as our official "sacrificial goat" to Egypt asap so he can see up close and personal what his hatred of "jews" looks like when it is directed at him simply because he was born in America. Libya also needs a new ambassador I hear .... Jack Ass?

Thom| 9.12.12 @ 5:43PM

For all of my 42+ years as an adult Conservatives have advanced over the ruins of Democrat policies not due to their philosophically arguments. In each case the cumulative damage done from these polices have persisted despite the best of efforts because the institutionalized structure of these wrongheaded polices have been left in place throughout government at every level. Being a better manager of our decline and eventual failure doesn't change the ultimate end result. I'm relatively certain a "conservative" will be in charge when we finally fall off the cliff.. .. There is a point where no President or Congress can fix "this".

Unfortunately, we now have a long history of both diplomatic and military failures since WWII. Our words mean nothing to the tin plate dictators of the world and allies alike. We've become that barking dog that always runs to the limits of his yard but no further. We don't have the capacity to back what capabilities we have to finish the jobs we take on. We've become weak and predictable to a fault and anyone can do the "math" on our military capabilities. Half the adult population pays for what the other half benefits from free of obligation and we let those people vote. When the "fall" arrives it will be US citizens climbing over the fences of other US citizens to take what they have because the enemy is truly within America now. The events we see in the ME are just a harbinger of what is to come ....

Occam's Tool| 9.12.12 @ 8:26PM

Jack in Wi would make a GREAT Libyan ambassador; sorry, ambassador to Libya.

Gary B| 9.12.12 @ 8:32PM

Funny...

just_ja_el| 9.12.12 @ 8:57PM

All this fuss about an internet clip that simply tells the truth about mohammed. Everybody already knew that he was a child molester, had sex with animals, specially PIGS and was also a cross dressing faggot.

Stephie| 9.12.12 @ 9:09PM

I've never seen this many posts on a single article on AS before. This day has been one hell of a day for news. A weak president, a presidential opponent and a useless Sec. of State.

Albert Constantine Jr.| 9.12.12 @ 9:58PM

I've seen it go over 600 once or twice during the primary, but this is as high as I've seen it go since registration began a few months back.

Collectivist| 9.13.12 @ 9:39AM

Were there Marine guards at Benghazi? If not, why not? If there were guards posted, were they given orders not to shoot? If so, why and by whom?

St Reformed| 9.13.12 @ 11:37PM

Earlier today, Ben Stein submitted a great column assailing our "one-party media" who act as agents of Obama's "Ministry of Truth." These quislings are as dangerous as the Islamofascists since they were quite skillful at installing our Con Artist-in-Chief in the WH and are on the road to keeping him there. God deliver us.

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