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Campaign Crawlers
Hope Turns Gray
Democrat convention shows Obama’s appeal fading with age.
CHARLOTTE, N.C. — It was like a flashback to the 1980s Thursday afternoon when Jesse Jackson and Michael Dukakis appeared in the press filing center at the Democratic National Convention. A small swarm of reporters and photographers hovered around the two former presidential candidates, neither of whom had a speaking role at the convention, for reasons obvious enough: They remind Democrats of their years in the wilderness, when Republicans Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush controlled the White House for 12 years.
Jackson ran a left-wing protest campaign in 1984, but never really threatened the Democrat establishment’s choice, former Vice President Walter Mondale, who went on to lose a historic landslide to Reagan. Dukakis was the party’s designated loser in 1988, his cold technocratic style failing to excite anyone as he was crushed by Bush in another massive blowout. Kids studying this stuff in history class nowadays may have trouble understanding the politics of that era before their birth, and know no more of Jackson and Dukakis than a 50-year-old knows of Harold Stassen or Adlai Stevenson. The young have no memory of the awful taint of defeat — the reputation for outright political incompetence — that clung to the Democratic Party from Jimmy Carter onward into the 1990s. Today’s 25-year-old remembers, instead, being a senior in high school when George W. Bush was re-elected amid the controversies of the Iraq War. In all likelihood, that 25-year-old wasn’t too crazy about Bush or the war, and was quite eager to vote for Barack Obama in 2008.
One thing most conspicuously missing from Obama’s re-election campaign is the excitement of younger voters who four years ago embraced his promises of Hope and Change with the kind of wild enthusiasm college kids usually reserve for wet T-shirt contests at keg parties. Karl Rove pointed out in the Wall Street Journal that Obama’s 2-to-1 margin (66 percent to 32 percent for John McCain) among under-30 votes in 2008 has now, according to some polls, shriveled to as few as eight percentage points (49 percent to 41 percent for Mitt Romney). This week, Republicans suspected that such lagging enthusiasm was the real reason for the change of venue that relocated Obama’s acceptance speech from a 70,000-seat stadium to a 20,000-seat arena, which Democrats officially attributed to weather-related concerns. If indeed the problem was a lack of warm bodies to fill the seats, it is particularly the young whose absence is remarkable. How many college kids would sign up to ride a bus to an Obama speech, even if the bus ride were free?
Given how the lingering recession has negatively impacted the career prospects of youth, we can hardly blame them for having abandoned their erstwhile Messiah. As Rove noted, the official unemployment rate for workers ages 18-29 is now 12.7 percent and, calculating in the 1.7 million young people who have become so discouraged by unemployment that they’ve dropped out of the work force, the rate is actually 16.7 percent. Gone forever is that giddy sense of unlimited possibility with which the young followed Obama’s every step during the 2008 campaign, replaced by a sense of failure, a boundless potential tragically unfulfilled.
The convention itself seemed to reflect the graying of the Democrat dream. College student Cody Holt compared the roster of speakers at the DNC to the speakers at last week’s GOP convention and discovered that the Democrat speakers’ average age was 59.7, more than 10 years older than the Republican speakers, whose average age was 48.9. Whereas the GOP offered the 42-year-old Paul Ryan as Romney’s running mate and chose the charismatic young Marco Rubio to introduce their candidate, Democrats offered 70-year-old Vice President Joe Biden and gave the introductory spot to 68-year-old Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin.
Biden’s speech was a re-hash of the Democrats’ attacks on Romney as a heartless capitalist who “was willing to let Detroit go bankrupt,” and who would “cause Medicare to go bankrupt by 2016.” Biden accused Romney of wanting to “raise taxes on middle-class families by $2,000 in order to pay for another trillion dollars in new tax cuts for the very wealthy.” Biden’s claims inspired nary a hint of skepticism from the liberal journalists and broadcasters who spent last week relentlessly fact-checking everything said at the GOP convention — “fact-checking” having become, as the Wall Street Journal’s James Taranto says, an insidious new form of propaganda.
Biden and Obama touted the 2009 taxpayer bailouts of the auto industry as both necessary and successful. “In our first days in office, General Motors and Chrysler were on the verge of liquidation,” said Biden. “If the President didn’t act immediately, there wouldn’t be an auto industry left to save.” (Hello, fact-checkers? Was this true?) Obama offered his own version of the same theme: “We’re making things again. I’ve met workers in Detroit and Toledo who feared they’d never build another American car. Today, they can’t build them fast enough, because we reinvented a dying auto industry that’s back on top of the world.” (C’mon, fact-checkers, aren’t there some actual numbers about this stuff?)
The auto-industry bailout was, along with the withdrawal from Iraq and the death of Osama bin Laden, quite nearly all the actual success Obama was able or willing to claim in his acceptance speech. Notably, the president mentioned his signature health-care legislation — Obamacare — only in a few indirect references. The record high budget deficits? The failure of his $800 billion stimulus to reduce unemployment rates below 8 percent? No, he said nothing about that. Instead, Democrats cheered as Obama promised a future where good things will happen.
“If you believe that new plants and factories can dot our landscape; that new energy can power our future; that new schools can provide ladders of opportunity to this nation of dreamers; if you believe in a country where everyone gets a fair shot, and everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same rules, then I need you to vote this November.”
The delegates who cheered this incantation of belief — a quasi-religious faith in the efficacy of liberal policies — were mostly old enough to remember the Democrats’ wilderness years of the 1980s, and they clearly believe that Obama’s oratory still has enough persuasive magic to carry them to victory in November. If Obama does win, it will be despite the declining value of Hope among the young.
And if Obama loses?
Well, the 1980s were pretty good years to be young, even if they were very bad years to be a Democrat.
About the Author
Robert Stacy McCain is co-author (with Lynn Vincent) of Donkey Cons: Sex, Crime, and Corruption in the Democratic Party (Nelson Current). He blogs at The Other McCain.
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Jack in Wi| 9.7.12 @ 6:24AM
I just could not force myself to watch this speech. Everytime I looked at the guy for more then 30 seconds I had to change the channel back to a Johnny Carson retrospective, I was watching on PBS. I read Peggy Noonan who wrote the speech was banal and Obama was way overexposed. Everytime I looked in on the guy, his head was bobbing back and forth as he read the teleprompter. This guy is a total puppet of his consultants and managers. The same is true of Romney. It is no wonder there is a severe enthusiasm gap in this election. Romney may stagger home in a close election. It shows how bad he is running his campaign when he is tied with Obama. If he was doing any kind of job he would be leading by 10 points.
Aristocat| 9.7.12 @ 6:34AM
"What a hoot. The party of "new ideas" had to have a sociopathic liar and serial sexual predator from the past in order to save the Muslim's bacon."
Billy was in the avant-garde of the abortion movement...He gave Jennifer Flowers $200.00 cash to abort their baby in 1978....Jennifer has come to regret it...That baby would now be 34 and worth $ Millions to herself and Jennifer...
Then came the sexual harassment of Paula Jones in the Excelsior Hotel in Little Rock on May 8, 1991, which led to the lawsuit, which led to the perjury, which led to the impeachment, and was followed by disbarment for perjury and a fine of $800,000.00.....He was also held in contempt of court by federal judge Susan Webber Wright in Little Rock on April 13, 1999.
Then came the rape of Juanita Broaddrick in the Camelot Hotel in Little Rock in April, 1978...Clinton has never denied this.
This is the man chosen to give the keynote address at the Democrat National convention as the "champion of women's rights."
Jack in Wi| 9.7.12 @ 6:56AM
I have to agree: Dragging in Clinton was a sign of real desperation. If Obama had any real success at anything he would not need that old four flusher to spout off in one of his long and windy monologues. Obama deserves to lose in a big way. The question is does Romney deserve to win?
Aristocat| 9.7.12 @ 7:54AM
"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.."
Clint Eastwood, from "The Unforgiven."
John II| 9.7.12 @ 8:14AM
Slight emendation, Jack. No one on earth "deserves" to be President of the USA. The office is a sacred trust which we the people lend out once every four years to this or that mortal of intrinsically undeserving nature.
The difference (arguably the most profound difference) between the self-regarding Professor and the self-effacing Mitt is that Romney understands this distinction. The Professor doesn't.
And now back to "Unforgiven" (1992), in which . . . well, Aristocat has already covered it.
vtwin| 9.7.12 @ 8:35AM
Self-effacing, the guy is running for President!
John II| 9.7.12 @ 9:11AM
Right, Twitty. I know this is difficult for you (i.e., for someone who presumably thinks it was wise of the Dems to tout the killing of the unborn as a winning issue at their convention), but try exercising your moral imagination for a few seconds. Consider:
1. What MIGHT it mean that Romney's own rhetoric is at once more substantive than the Professor's and more plainly lackluster in its delivery?
2. What MIGHT it mean that Romney is prone more to ignoring vicious personal attacks on himself and his family than to bristling at them and obsessing over minute refutations?
3. Or, speaking historically (since you're not remotely old enough to recollect it personally), what MIGHT it mean to a lefty like yourself that Adlai Stevenson, the Democratic nominee in 1952 and 1956 (way, way back when liberal Democrats were still patriots), referred to his candidacy and the prospect of being President strictly as duties, "a cup that I'd prefer pass me by"?
And now back to "Don Winslow in the Coast Guard" (1943), a 12-episode serial made in an era when self-effacement was assumed to be a typical quality of a real leader.
Occam's Tool| 9.7.12 @ 11:42AM
Romney, as Governor, rescued a drowning family AND their dog with his sons while at the beach one day. He also shut down Bain for a week to find a colleague's missing daughter.
This was mentioned at the Convention, but not before or since by Romney, or his website. What would Obama do with the verifiable fact of being a genuine action hero, vtwin, hmm?
That's the diference between a mature qadult and the narcissist we have in the POTUS chair.
Occam's Tool| 9.7.12 @ 11:42AM
Sorry, "adult."
George S| 9.7.12 @ 12:02PM
'Qadult'... I like that... Quasi Adult.
Al Adab| 9.7.12 @ 3:27PM
Coined a good word, "Quadult". I like it.
JmsA| 9.7.12 @ 4:08PM
That's a nice neologism, OT.
TLP| 9.7.12 @ 5:39PM
Don't forget that he CLOSED BAIN for TWO WEEKS, so that everyone could Help find one of his Employees' Missing Wife.
Who does that?
Nobody, that's who.
markenoff| 9.8.12 @ 5:22PM
Actually, it was the employee's 14 year old daughter who went missing after a rave in Manhattan. Romney did what leader's do; established priorities, directed the application of resources towards a goal and monitored progress until the goal was reached.
markenoff| 9.8.12 @ 5:20PM
What'sthe difference between God and Barak Obama? God doesn't think he's Barak Obama.
Robert| 9.9.12 @ 10:32AM
George Washington, when offered the position of Presidency for Life of the new United States of America that his military victory over the British created, he declined.
George Washington was self-effacing.
Mitt Romney is self-effacing. I would certainly prefer this quality in my president over the narcissism of the present occupier of the White House.
Stephie| 9.7.12 @ 8:35AM
Thanks for that history lesson. And don't forget his lie while wagging that crooked finger, which he did alot of the other night at the convention, denied Paula Jones her day in court. How the left and especially leftist women can sidle up to this man who clearly disrespect them, is beyond me.
Kwan| 9.7.12 @ 10:10AM
That's right when Willie da Slickster was on the prowl any woman within a 500-mile radius was in danger of being fondled, groped, mauled, bitten, or raped.
Cat Shot| 9.7.12 @ 11:43AM
Beside your point perhaps, but do you seriously believe that for any amount of money Jennifer Flowers would have borne that grifter's child?
markenoff| 9.8.12 @ 5:19PM
Democrats seem to forget that it was the Clinton tax increases of 1993 that led to the Dems losing the House in the 94 midterms for the first time in 40 years.
vtwin| 9.7.12 @ 8:29AM
I just could not force myself to watch [Obama] speech. I read Peggy Noonan who wrote [Obama] speech was…The same is true of Romney [speech]…
Are you going to let Peggy vote for you to?
Tom Kyba| 9.7.12 @ 11:31AM
Oh grow up.
TLP| 9.7.12 @ 5:43PM
WTF are you talking about?
I know that you're Stupid.
Now, you're just Incoherent.
Maybe it's time to put that pair of Obama's Underwear, that you took from his Campaign Bus, over your face, and start taking Deep Breaths.
That's right.
Breeeeeeeeeeeeeeeathe.
RCV| 9.9.12 @ 1:24PM
It's your guy wearing the "special" underwear, TLP.
TLP| 9.9.12 @ 7:33PM
Yeah, but we're not Sniffing them, like you idiots.
RCV| 9.9.12 @ 8:45PM
Just another example of your fascination with men and their privates, TLP.
Indy| 9.7.12 @ 8:06AM
Interesting insights from Kevin DuJan, a former Democrat, excerpts:
The Democrats no longer use the donkey as a symbol, but instead plaster “The Eye of Obama” over everything. Have you noticed this? I find it disturbing, but Democrats don’t have a donkey to be found this year at their convention: it is all about the Obama “O” emblem, which I call “The Eye of Obama”.
Democrats keep insisting that Barack Obama “stopped us from going into Second Great Depression” and “saved the Auto Industry”.
they are beating a drum loudly now saying that “Obama stopped a New Depression”. It’s an Alinsky tactic to set things up to blame your opponent (or “enemy”, as Democrats would say) for something that in reality YOU did. Democrats are setting the stage for next year when they will say that Romney caused the Depression and that we wouldn’t have had it if only Obama was re-elected.
Read more http://hillbuzz.org/top-ten-th.....-2012-2012
John II| 9.7.12 @ 8:29AM
"I find it disturbing, but Democrats don’t have a donkey to be found this year at their convention . . ."
Well, Indy, the convention WAS full of jackasses. Maybe the usual symbol made them uncomfortable.
And then there was the (damaged--and by an act of God no less) sand-sculpture of the Professor, with a face that makes him look like a degenerate ward politician straining to be avuncular.
Artists: their works almost always tell the truth, even when they themselves don't intend to.
And now back to a few cleansing episodes of "The Three Stooges," wherein the clowning is deliberate.
Mike G| 9.7.12 @ 10:40AM
Wait, are you telling me that Curly knew when Moe was going to poke him in the eyes? Like it was planned??
If that's true, I feel like I'm Curly and Obama is Moe.
TLP| 9.7.12 @ 5:50PM
No, Obama is a Mo.
Just ask the GUYS at the Harvard Review, who claim that he made SEXUAL ADVANCES towards them.
Go ahead.
Ask them.
RCV| 9.8.12 @ 4:58PM
And who are those guys TLP?
TLP| 9.8.12 @ 7:13PM
Do your own Homework.
Typical Lib.
RCV| 9.9.12 @ 1:03AM
You told us to "ask them". But in fact, "they" don't exist. Except in the mind of guys like you, who obsess over homosexual acts all day. It seems to take up a big part of your fantasy life.
TLP| 9.9.12 @ 7:33PM
LOOK IT UP.
RCV| 9.9.12 @ 8:46PM
It's all made up. There are no sources.
JimH| 9.7.12 @ 11:09AM
BO’s administration’s actions during the financial crisis had as much relation to solving it as cargo cult head hunter air strips have to making the great silver birds land. BTW, I find BO more akin to Saruman than Sauron.
TLP| 9.7.12 @ 5:52PM
No.
He's Sauron.
markenoff| 9.8.12 @ 5:25PM
We all belong to government now.
Stephie| 9.7.12 @ 8:38AM
I found the adoring faces last night, tears streaming as they gaze upward at their God, their daddy, so very frightening. Even with a bland speech filled with lies, they fall at his feet and ask for more kool aide.
Cat Shot| 9.7.12 @ 11:50AM
Only frightening because they can vote. Otherwise, sad - very sad.
Kwan| 9.7.12 @ 11:45PM
Dear President Obama,
http://www.youtube.com/watch_p.....q=medium#t
c. j. acworth| 9.7.12 @ 8:46AM
Can we please stop calling it "the auto industry bail-out". The auto industry would still be going along after a regular bankruptcy and re-organization. The valuable assets of GM and Chrysler would've been taken over by new management. Americans would still be buying cars, many if not most made here in the USA. What Empty Chair bailed out was the UAW. There will always be an American auto industry, bailouts or no.
TLP| 9.7.12 @ 5:56PM
The Auto Industry DID go into Bankruptcy.
But, not until Buckwheat Bailed Out his UAW Buddy's Pensions, Health Care, and Legacy Costs.
Everybody on the Left keeps Screaming that, "Romney would have let them Go Bankrupt!
They did go Bankrupt.
I'm sick of all of this Bullshit.
LOOK IT UP!
Wendy| 9.7.12 @ 8:56AM
I remember Harold Stassen and ol' Adlai! What losers! Democrats have closed faces and closed souls, Republicans enjoy Big Tent faces. I have diehard but loyal Republican friends who can't believe that Log Cabin Republicans are a welcome part of the GOP. I protested the GOP convention in NYC in 2004, and we had no problem marching in the thousands in front of Mad Square Garden; at the DNC convention, protesters were penned up like animals. I protested against Bush because real, old-fashioned Republicans couldn't stomach W and his illegal war in Iraq.
Tom Kyba| 9.7.12 @ 11:33AM
Oh grow up.
TLP| 9.7.12 @ 6:20PM
We don't hate Homosexuals.
Just don't pretend that the Marriage between two same sex people, is the same as one between a Man and a Woman.
Go live your lives.
We know that you are good people.
Just don't make Demands, that we cannot Condone.
What's wrong with Civil Unions, anyway? You get all of the Right accorded to Married Couples. You can Adopt. You can be the Beneficiary of Life Insurance. You can see your Loved One, in the Hospital.
A Rose, by any other name, still smells as sweet.
Right?
Right.
Stan Redmond| 9.8.12 @ 4:35PM
The democrats have so bastardized political debate that anything you don't throw billions of dollars at means you hate it.
You don't waste billions on head start (failed) you hate children.
Don't through more billions at welfare, you hate blacks and are racist.
Don't legalize gay marriage you hate gays
Don't through billions of dollars at PBS, you hate Big Bird
It's sad really. That's just how stupid their voters have become.
markenoff| 9.8.12 @ 5:27PM
Don't like the big tent analogy. The more conservative party, currently the Republicans, should strive to be a magnet whose ideas attract people.
Ken (Old Texican)| 9.7.12 @ 9:49AM
Wendy, get back on your meds.
Von Mises Jr| 9.7.12 @ 10:19AM
The unemployment for the teens is cited at about 17% since BLS cannot fake the number as well as for older individuals. It is difficult to convince parents that their 19 year old High School Graduate or 23 year old College Graduate should not be counted among the unemployed. They know that they are paying for their food and beer.
But they think that they can get away with telling us unemployment went down two percentage points to 8.1% when less than 100K jobs are reported. You need about 170K jobs per month growth to tread water with legal immigration at 3M and a 65% labor participation rate. So it is all a lie, and an obvious lie.
They do this by transitioning 99 week unemployment drones to Social Security Disability. They do this by giving teachers and cops fat packages to retire at 55. They do this by not counting all the business people who lost businesses. And they do this by lying. But we are not buying the big lie, even if Lenin said we should.
Warrior| 9.7.12 @ 11:42AM
My understanding is that you need 110,000 net positive just to keep up with population increases. What is also lost is that this number will be revised downward in the next week or two.
Maniupulating the numbers is all they have left as there is no plan they can articulate other than what has failed for the past six years needs more time to work.
Von Mises Jr| 9.7.12 @ 1:25PM
It's all a mirage. With 368K jobs eliminated from the labor force this month, they reduced 8.3% to 8.1% unemployed.
But they eliminated 1.2M in Feb and 522K in May alone, so this year the BLS has culled almost 2.1M jobs from the denominator to lie that we have about 8% rate. If they used the same number of jobs available as when Obama took office, the real rate is 11.4% U3. The total unemployed and underemployed is about 20%, FDR Depression levels.
What a nightmare! But Rush said that the regime would tout 8% before the election, and it is comming true in Lenin style.
TLP| 9.7.12 @ 6:25PM
Not only 368k leaving the Workforce.
But, the 363,000 New Unemployment Line Denizens, every week.
Every number that comes outta this Den Of Thieves, is BULLSHIT.
All you need to know, to know I'm right?
Is simple Math.
I'm talking to YOU, Kaminsky.
Von Mises Jr| 9.8.12 @ 5:46AM
TLP, There has been a rise of 5.4M in Social Security Disability Insurance under Obama. They are not counted as unemployed, and they are about to bankrupt the system in 2018. He is not kidding when he says he is not done yet.
http://news.investors.com/busi.....-obama.htm
Stan Redmond| 9.8.12 @ 4:36PM
They also aren't counting the wave of illegals that are now magically legal and given a work permit.
Purp| 9.7.12 @ 10:27AM
No, the 80's were not good years to be young. But even so, this time is no where near as easy to get out of as Reagan's cyclic recession. This time is better compared to the Great Depression - which Herbert Hoover did not avoid, but Barack Obama did.
Belief? Well, if you can't imagine it, you can't do it.
Maybe if he had some actual Republican partners to work with, instead of "Forcible Rape" Advocates, America would be better off.
Nevertheless, the President won re-election this week.
The Billionaires don't have enough money to buy enough lipstick to put enough lipstick on that Corporate Pig, Willard Romney. Mitty is a sad case for a nominee, and you all know it.
Truth to Power| 9.7.12 @ 11:32AM
The billionaires also don't have enough money to pay for progressive's cons and corruption. They don't here and they don't in Europe. It is time for you to go on a strict diet. Get used to the idea and stop trying to change the subject to trivial matters. The big O's leadership is identical to that of the brilliant progressives of Greece and they are at 22.5% unemployment and growing. Luddite progressives are ready for the ash heap of history.
Tom Kyba| 9.7.12 @ 11:33AM
Oh grow up.
TLP| 9.7.12 @ 6:26PM
Tommy.
Stop saying that.
You can do better.
I know you can.
What's the rush?
George S| 9.7.12 @ 12:51PM
How would we better off would if Obama got Republicans to vote for the stimulus and ObamaCare?
Kwan| 9.7.12 @ 10:41AM
Obama offered up to the dopes plenty of nothing. Empty promises from a guy that has a proven track record of lying every time he moves his lips. None of his policies have been proven to have had any benefit to the nation, in fact just the opposite has been the case, to believe that another four years would be any different is naivete on steroids.
Al Adab| 9.7.12 @ 12:02PM
A fresh face and fresh voice seems attractive until one realizes just how vacuuous it is. Debbie for her part would be the best campaign ads the GOP could run. It must be nice to live in such a dream world as she.
Ronsch| 9.7.12 @ 12:58PM
The local DemonRat party met at a local restaurant to hear NerObama's and "Sloppy Joe" Biden's speeches...Retired teachers among them all praised the speeches locally as being uplifting and energetic and charting a great course for the next four years...What kool-Aid are they drinking? It was the same old "Hope And Change" dressed up in new text.
Kingofthenet| 9.7.12 @ 1:07PM
I personally like a President and Country, where the Domestic Auto Industry is alive but Osama is DEAD, but that's just me.
Drunken Sailor| 9.7.12 @ 3:32PM
Tell that to Ford. They had no problem staying alive. And GM is looking at bankruptcy again.
Skippy| 9.7.12 @ 6:11PM
GM stock is around $21.
Bambo bought it at $35.
If it hits $56, we can sell it and get our bailout back.
It won't; the bailout was a scam; GM will go under.....again, and soon.
Nick| 9.7.12 @ 1:39PM
Well, everyone pretty much agrees: The democrat convention was a complete DISASTER!
MSLSD isn't even playing cuts from the Foodstamp President's speech!
First, the convention opened just as the national debt surpassed the $16 TRILLION mark.
Then, Debbie Blabbermouth-Putz was caught on tape lying through her teeth.
Then, the democrats had a night of Molech worship, wherein abortion was praised & made a sacrament.
Then, God & Jerusalem were ripped out of the party plank.
Then, they were forced back in, because of the PR disaster that resulted. (Even though the party voted THREE TIMES to keep them out, and the chair overruled them.)
Then, Debbie kept lying about the discord over the vote.
Then, Bubba "The Rapist" gave another geologically long speech.
Then, they lied about moving the venue because of the weather, when it was really because they couldn't fill the seats in Bank of America stadium!
What a bunch of losers!
Kwan| 9.7.12 @ 2:09PM
Yeah Willie da Slickster and Jimma Carta can be thankful that da Community Orgasmizer got elected President. Before Obama dem two bums Slickster and Carta were running neck and neck for the coveted title of 'Worst President in the History of the United States'. But Obama has now forged to the front and without a doubt can claim that he indeed is the undisputed 'Worst President in the History of the United States'.
CScott| 9.7.12 @ 2:27PM
I really laughed at this comment. Complete disaster? Everyone doesn't think that, especially since we live in a "liberal" country. But hey, whatever helps you sleep better at night I guess.
Nick| 9.7.12 @ 2:42PM
You won't be laughing in November, CScott.
Did you see the jobs numbers this morning?
Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
CScott| 9.7.12 @ 3:10PM
I did see the jobs report and I indeed will be laughing this November. Laughing and cheering actually. If the Republican Party had a candidate who they were fully behind, who provided citizens ideas and specifics about improving the country as a whole then maybe I would be worried about President Obama being reelected. BUT that isn't the case and there is nothing Mitt Romney can do over the next 60 days to change that. He just doesn't have the people behind him.
Nick| 9.7.12 @ 3:28PM
That might be true, CScott, if not for the fact that the Foodstamp President can't stop lying.
The O'Bama regime accused Mr. Romney of killing the wife of a steelworker. Then, they lied about knowing the steelworker.
The O'Bama regime lies about trying to GUT the work requirements from welfare reform.
They lie about the $716 TRILLION they are stealing from MediScare Advantage.
They lie about the actual unemployment rate. It's really around 12%.
And, O'Bama lied when he promised to keep GM plants in Wisconsin open, and then did NOTHING.
Keep dreaming about your father, CScott.
Nick| 9.9.12 @ 3:10PM
Hey, I just noticed a big boo-boo!
The O'Bama regime is stealing $716 BILLION from MediScare Advantage.
I'm just so used to writing "TRILLION" when describing O'Bama's wasteful spending, I guess.
RCV| 9.8.12 @ 2:49PM
Hey, Nick, did you see the latest poll numbers this morning? Gallup has Obama up by 4 nationally, and even your vaunted Rasmussen has him up by 2!
The electoral college numbers are even better: Nate Silver now projects Obama 314 Romney 224.
Bwah-ha-ha-ha back to ya!
RCV| 9.9.12 @ 12:09AM
And the Reuters poll just out -- Obama by 4.
Bwah-ha-ha.
Nick| 9.9.12 @ 7:58AM
Are you really crowing about 4 points, RCV?
I don't think you understand how political polling actually works, I'm afraid. Or, you don't think that I know how it works.
Four points is the margin of error in most national polls.
Two points is a tie!
Plus, Gallup always over-samples democrats in their polls, because they poll registered voters. Sampling likely voters is always more accurate, which is what Rasmussen does.
Besides, O'Bama still can't break the 50% mark!
If he hasn't by the end of September, he's probably toast. The undecideds are not going to break for him after October 1st.
I know you guys had a terrible convention, and that you need to grab any straw you can find, but, 4 points isn't even a thread.
Here's a pretty good break down of the latest polls, with a reminder to wait & see what the polls say this week, to know if there was a real convention bump, or not:
http://hotair.com/archives/201.....aden-raid/
Enjoy the rest of the weekend. Bwah-ha!
Nick| 9.9.12 @ 8:02AM
p.s. Be sure to watch the videos that I linked to, RCV. Although, I don't think you will find them as funny as the rest of us!
(But they are pretty funny.)
RCV| 9.9.12 @ 11:30AM
Oh, Nick, my friend, you are in such a state of denial. Rasmussen, whose polls are so accurate you believe, has Obama up another two points this morning. More importantly, Rasmussen has this to say this fine Sunday morning:
"This is the President's biggest lead over Romney among likel voters since March 17. The President's convention bounce is evident both in his head-to-head numbers with Romney and in his Job Approval ratings.
The President made significant gains among voters aged 40-64. The President's bounce began the night after Bill Clinton spoke to the convention and got rave reviews. Sixty-six percent of voters nationwide have a favorable view of the former president."
You go on enjoying your funny videos, Nick ... all the way to November!
CJW| 9.9.12 @ 1:34PM
The election will be decided by ten states.
Colorado, Iowa, Nevada, North Carolina, Virginia, Florida, Michigan, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Wisconsin.
According to RCP, Romney has 191 electoral votes. He should win Ohio, North Carolina, Florida, and Virginia for 75, for a total of 266.
All Romney then needs is on of the remaining states in play, such as Wisconsin, Iowa,or New Hampshire which are trending.
Bubba did give O a bounce, but if O needs Bubba then he has a problem. The Bubba effect will wear off. Ask Hillary about it in the 2008 primaries, and Algore in the 2000 election .
Romney will win the popular vote.
RCV| 9.9.12 @ 2:04PM
But RCP has Obama ahead in Ohio, Florida and Virginia, states you're putting in the Romney column. Things could, of course, change. But 8 weeks from the election, the numbers aren't looking good for Romney.
CJW| 9.9.12 @ 2:16PM
Obama leads in Ohio by 1.5, in Virginia by .6, and Florida by 1.7. This is a virtual tie. They have been trending to Romney. These are as of 8/30 so this week may show the temporary and fleeting Bubba effect.
Those are not good numbers for the incumbent. Romney should get the undecided voters. Obama is in trouble because he cannot break 50% as an incumbent.
Further on the Bubba effect, he lost the 94 midterms giving the Reps the House for the first time in 40 years. He may be personally popular but he cannot deliver votes for others.
RCV| 9.10.12 @ 11:41AM
Latest poll from Ohio: Obama up by 5. Rasmussen has him up by 5 nationally now.
Nick| 9.9.12 @ 3:04PM
I never denied that O'Bama was getting a bump out of his convention. Just as Mr. Romney got a bump out of his.
Again, the big number is 50%. If O'Bama still can't get a majority in the polls going into October, he will lose. Friday's jobs number sure didn't help, either.
And, as the HotAir.com post informs us (did you read it?) the Romney campaign is about to bombard 8 key swing states with attack-ads. Let's be patient and see where the polls are then, okay?
I know you wish the election was this Tuesday, but, alas, it isn't. It still has to be played out. And, remember, anything can (and probably will) happen between now & then. You are seeing silver linings where there are none, I'm afraid.
One final thing. If the polls are still tied going into November 6th, we could have another Bush v. Gore 2000 on our hands! Yikes!
I will enjoy those videos, RCV, thanks. If you guys have lost Jon Stewart, what hope do you really have! Ha-ha!
Take care.
RCV| 9.9.12 @ 3:58PM
John Stewart is still firmly in our camp, Nick. He does enjoy a joke at anyone's expense! Be well. It will be interesting eight weeks to be sure.
Nick| 9.9.12 @ 4:45PM
It certainly will be interesting, RCV.
But, I don't know about Stewart, though. He might be changing into the "To hell with both of them!" camp.
Not because O'Bama isn't centrist enough. Because he isn't left-wing enough. Stewart is interesting to watch (not that I regularly watch, anymore.)
He seems to want to try and remain intellectually honest, so that he can look his kids in the eyes and say, "I wasn't a political hack defending the democrats for everything that they did." He likes to think that he is a mainstream liberal, but, he is as left as they come.
But, when he sees the democrats blatantly lying, something he thinks Republicans do ALL the time, he sometimes will not carry their water. He seems to have realized that he has been manipulated (in the past) more & more, lately.
Have you seen the interview Stewart did with Maddow that's on YouTube? Check it out, if you haven't, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Stewart sooooo wanted O'Bama to be the real deal. You can see in the bits where he actually makes fun of fellow liberals that he is disappointed in them.
Nick| 9.9.12 @ 4:53PM
Oh, I forgot to mention this: More bad news for the Foodstamp President.
The Washington Post is serializing Bob Woodward's new book, "The Price of Politics," this week. It's not very flattering to the regime, I'm afraid:
"The first thing that baffles me [David Krone, Harry Reid's chief of staff] is, from my private-sector experience, the first rule that I’ve always been taught is to have a Plan B. And it is really disheartening that you, that this White House did not have a Plan B."
I predict a bad week for Team O'Bama.
Read more here:
http://hotair.com/archives/201.....eparation/
RCV| 9.10.12 @ 11:42AM
He just reached the 50% mark, Nick, and expanded his lead over Romney to 5% in both Rasmussen and Gallup.
Nick| 9.10.12 @ 4:29PM
Keep reaching for the straws, RCV. I doesn't make you look desperate, at all. Ha-ha!
This is the post-convention bounce, as I previously stated. Which I never denied. Romney/Ryan had one, too, remember?
It would mean something if the election were tomorrow. But, it's not.
Again, it matters much more where the numbers are, going into October. That's an eternity from today.
Be patient, Grasshopper.
Nick| 9.7.12 @ 1:43PM
By the way, did everyone see former MI gov. Jennie-pooh Granholm's meltdown last night?
She looked like a drunken ferret having a epileptic fit!
Check it out, if you haven't seen it:
http://hotair.com/archives/201.....penchange/
Be sure to watch until the end, to see her go into full Howard Dean-mode.
CJW| 9.7.12 @ 5:04PM
Maybe if Jennifer did a better job in creating a business climate as governor of Michigan, then Chrysler and GM would not have needed federal tax money to survive.
The American auto industry, consisting of Ford, and the non-union Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Subaru, BMW and others did not ask nor need our tax handouts to survive.
Obama gave GM our money to reward the UAW for its contributions and help, and because most of the UAW members are in Michigan and Ohio, two states he needs to win.
Mitt said let GM file for bankrupcty, which it did. Maybe Jennifer, being a Canadian, did not understand that GM filed for bankruptcy. He did not say let Detroit go bankrupt because Detroit has been bankrupt for years.
Too bad, the only good looking Dem woman politician is a Canadian airhead.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 9.8.12 @ 2:51PM
After seeing Ms. Granholm hop and gyrate around the stage, I am not certain that I would characterize her as "good looking". While not unattractive, she loses points the way she moves, and with the crazy look in her eyes. Perhaps that is why her husband preferred hookers.
Nick| 9.9.12 @ 7:33AM
If you enjoyed that one, W, you'll really like this one, from The Daily Show, where the "tolerance" of the typical democrat is exposed for all to see:
http://hotair.com/archives/201.....tolerance/
I'd have to agree with Mr. Constantine, about Jennie-pooh's looks, by the way. Especially, when she's in close-up and you see those two gnarly warts on her face! Barf!
CJW| 9.9.12 @ 12:08PM
Nick and Albert,
I should have been more clear. She appeared good looking compared to the rest of the Dems, such as Boxer, Mikulski, Feinstein, Wasserman, Murray, etc.
I did not know about Mr. Jennifer's preference for sporting women, that must explain all the pent up energy and crazy look.
Nick| 9.9.12 @ 2:45PM
Ahhhhh....I seeeeee.
I completely agree, W.
Next to those hags, Snooki would be considered a babe!
Stan Redmond| 9.7.12 @ 1:45PM
It was the condom and cigar convention. How embarassing that a political party can only run on that.
If birth control is so readily available FOR FREE, why is abortion even an issue anymore.
Al Adab| 9.7.12 @ 2:20PM
Stan,
You really don't expect them to think ahead do you? One can always claim after the fact that, "it just happened", making them innocent of any "moral turpitude". After all instant gratification and provision of every need is the purpose of government.
Stan Redmond| 9.7.12 @ 4:52PM
Yeah. Silly me. "It just happened." I forgot no one is responsible for their own anymore. I would have known that if I watched the DNC convention.
WCR| 9.8.12 @ 7:45AM
I have a question for parents of teenagers out there. When I was in high school I had to profile my top 5 Presidents in US History and defend why each deserved their slot in essay form....if we were to ask the same of "candidates" for the presidency and why or why they were not qualified to be President what would happen? For example: if a 13yr old student today wrote an essay about how Al Sharpton(or Jesse Jackson) is a race-baiting, lying, tax-evading charlatan/miscreant...would they get in trouble? I can only surmise that if the same student wrote an essay detailing the inadequacies of Sarah Palin/"Insert Conservative Demon Here" it would receive high marks...my point is that with all the talk and concern about "trickle down economics" on the left...don't we have an equal or greater problem of trickle down politics on the right?
7-08| 9.8.12 @ 10:14AM
From the Fox blog:
When Obama died, George Washington met him at the Pearly Gates. He slapped him across the face and yelled, “How dare you try to destroy the Nation I helped conceive?"
Patrick Henry approached, punched him in the nose and shouted, "You wanted to end our liberties but you failed."
James Madison followed, kicked him in the groin and said, "This is why I allowed our government to provide for the common defense!”
Thomas Jefferson was next, beat Obama with a long cane and snarled, "It was evil men like you who inspired me to write the Declaration of Independence."
The beatings and thrashings continued as James Monroe and 66 other early Americans unleashed their anger on the radical, socialist, leader.
As Obama lay bleeding and in pain, an Angel appeared. Obama wept and said, "This is not what you promised me.”The Angel replied, "I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting for you in Heaven, what did you think I said?
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