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Exceptional
Mitt Romney stakes his campaign on the America Dream.
TAMPA, Florida — The polls showed a dead heat as Mitt Romney took the stage Thursday night to accept the Republican Party nomination, but the polls could not begin to capture the wild chances of improbability in what is sure to be a hard-fought campaign this fall. And the man who introduced the GOP presidential nominee Thursday night was the surest testament to how miracles happen in America.
Marco Rubio wasn’t supposed to be there. In May 2009, more than 15 months before the 2010 Republican primary in Florida, the GOP establishment endorsed Rubio’s opponent, then-Gov. Charlie Crist, believing him to be the “safe” choice as their party’s Senate nominee. Crist had statewide name recognition and a strong fundraising base, and so he was endorsed not only by the state party chairman, but also by the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee. One poll showed Crist leading Rubio by 37 points.
Crist had every tangible advantage, but what he did not have was the support of the conservative grassroots, which were just then coalescing into the Tea Party. Crist had embraced President Obama’s $800 billion “stimulus” plan, and his endorsements from the GOP Establishment proved to be the kiss of death, rallying a nationwide movement behind Rubio. And so the young senator who introduced Mitt Romney on the closing night of the Republican National Convention was a living embodiment of the miraculous power of the American dream.
Rubio spoke of that dream, describing how as a nine-year-old boy in 1980 he watched the GOP convention with his grandfather, a refugee from Cuba’s communist dictatorship. “As a boy, I would sit on our porch and listen to his stories about history, politics and baseball while he puffed on one of his three daily Padron cigars,” Rubio told the thousands of Republican delegates gathered inside the Tampa Bay Times Forum. “I don’t recall everything we talked about, but the one thing I remember, is the one thing he wanted me to never forget. The dreams he had when he was young became impossible to achieve, but there was no limit to how far I could go, because I was an American.”
The crowd went positively wild with cheers and applause, and when they calmed down, Rubio continued: “For those of us who were born and raised in this country, it’s easy to forget how special America is. But my grandfather understood how different America is from the rest of the world, because he knew what life was like outside America.”
What Rubio was describing was a doctrine known to political philosophers as “American exceptionalism,” and the 41-year-old senator went on to describe its foundation in religious belief, that America is “special because we’ve been united not by a common race or ethnicity. We’re bound together by common values. That family is the most important institution in society. That almighty God is the source of all we have.… Our national motto is ‘In God we Trust,’ reminding us that faith in our Creator is the most important American value of all.”
Words can scarcely describe the enthusiasm that swept through the auditorium at that moment. In a skybox suite five floors above the stage, where I was a guest of the Republican State Leadership Committee, I found myself wiping tears from my eyes. They were neutral, objective tears, because I remembered when Marco Rubio was 37 points down in the polls, and here in Tampa I was watching an honest-to-God miracle. If it had been up to the party leadership, Charlie Crist would have been up there on stage. Instead, Crist is now disgraced and discredited, an unpopular loser who will speak at next week’s Democratic convention in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Anything can happen in America and, with less than 10 weeks to go until Election Day, it is impossible to know who will win the White House in November. The Real Clear Politics average of national polls shows a neck-and-neck race, but as of Thursday night it seemed entirely within the realm of possibility that Mitt Romney and his running mate, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, might win in a landslide. And if the Republicans do win, much of the credit will go to the ruthless efficiency of the campaign team organized by Romney. No one can deny that Romney and the Republicans put together an excellent convention. The most offbeat moment of the weeklong event in Tampa was a smashing success.
C’mon: Even the most hard-boiled liberal must admit that Clint Eastwood’s Thursday night appearance was hilarious. Rambling and low-key, Eastwood improvised a comedy routine in which he “interviewed” Obama, represented by an empty chair, and drew a standing ovation when he declared, “We own this country.”
The night ended with Romney’s acceptance speech — arguably his best ever, although the former governor of Massachusetts has never been famed as a spellbinding inspirational orator. But Romney made the case that inspirational oratory is no substitute for sound policy and competent leadership. “What is needed in our country today is not complicated or profound,” said the former CEO of Bain Capital. “It doesn’t take a special government commission to tell us what America needs. What America needs is jobs — lots of jobs.” He later mocked the absurdly irrational “hope and change” rhetoric that marked Obama’s 2008 campaign: “President Obama promised to begin to slow the rise of the oceans and heal the planet. My promise is to help you and your family.”
Romney closed by invoking an America that represents “the best within each of us,” and made a promise: “If I am elected President of these United States, I will work with all my energy and soul to restore that America, to lift our eyes to a better future. That future is our destiny. That future is out there. It is waiting for us. Our children deserve it, our nation depends upon it, the peace and freedom of the world require it. And with your help we will deliver it.”
If Mitt Romney is elected president on Nov. 6, it won’t necessarily be because America believes in Mitt Romney, but because Mitt Romney believes in America.
About the Author
Robert Stacy McCain is co-author (with Lynn Vincent) of Donkey Cons: Sex, Crime, and Corruption in the Democratic Party (Nelson Current). He blogs at The Other McCain.
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aware| 8.31.12 @ 6:30AM
I sense the forlornness in your article. Not blatant but an undercurrent. You were hoping for 1980 but have the nagging feeling of 1996.
It should be a easy one like '96. Except for the talent the GOP has for blowing their foot off. They again have the gun in their hand and you have a bad feeling.
Jack in Wi| 8.31.12 @ 7:02AM
I think that was the worst speech I have ever seen in 60 years of following Republican politics. It was boring, banal, nothing but platitudes pablum, pandering and BS. Bush 1 in 1988 was far superior. So was his dimwitted kid in 2000. At least they tried to play to their conservative base. All Romney did was talk about himself and talk nonsense. The foreign policy sections sounded like they were written by Norman Podhoretz. He gave no specifics for dissatisfied consevatives and libertarians to have hope.
He will probably lose. The polling I have seen from last night showed a slight favorable bump. they are both in the mid 40's. I think most people are disgusted with the choice. His only chance is that the economy sucks. I hope he wins because he surely will be the death knell of the Republican party. Clint Eastwood was the perfect symbol for the Party. That is senile and ready for the grave. Lets hope what replaces it is better.
Pelleas| 8.31.12 @ 7:33AM
Jack:
Once in a blue Moon, I gotta agree with you-amd last night in Tampa was one of those Bluest Moons I have EVER witnessed, in watching Conventions, from either Party...
What ever fear(s) I might still harbor that the wing-nuts might snatch the Presidency this year, was just about put to rest by what must of been the emptiest blather uttered--even by a politician-- possible,in Mitten's speech , last night
NOT ONE stance/position/kernel of thought/proposal/ came out of this entire Convention--and it was crowned by the biggest blast of empty hot air imaginable, last night.
The American people can not ( I hope..) be fooled into voting for such "nothingness" as was witnessed this week
The Avenger| 8.31.12 @ 7:49AM
Well Jack, they were fooled into voting for Obama, so anything is possible. and by the way Jack, you fool no one here. We all know you are a paid operative for Obama.
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 9:11AM
McCaskill 45. Akin 44.
Faith.
MK48| 8.31.12 @ 10:04AM
Yes....Tim..........Akin stood against all odds he didn't "cut and run".
A true worrier is standing for what he believes........the rest that turned their backs on him are cowards.
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 11:03AM
You got that right!
eloris| 8.31.12 @ 5:31PM
The only thing he's standing up for is the right to make idiot comments and throw elections to the other party.
Any principles he professes to be standing behind would be better served by another candidate who shares them.
He ought to be a "true worrier", but he apparently isn't, so much the worse for the rest of us.
BackToBasics| 9.4.12 @ 2:10AM
In 2004 Obam was running aganst Jack Ryan for the US Senate seat. Ryan was accused of wanting his wife, actress Jeri Ryan, to watch live sex acts with him. He resigned, Alan Keyes stood in for him at the last minute and the result was an Obam win of 70% to 27% for Keyes.
A last minute change would result in the dem, McCaskill, winning. Akin has a better chance to win than any substitute. If Akin wins or even comes close to winning, he will also help break the mold regarding Republicans having to leave a race or an office because of trumped-up accusations. This will benefit future Republican candidates.
The Avenger| 8.31.12 @ 7:52AM
Posting under 2 names in order to make it seem that someone, anyone agrees with your perspective is the sign of a mental illness.
jothepro| 8.31.12 @ 7:58AM
Hey Pelleas, Talk about nothingness is probably right up your alley. You people amaze me. Is he supposed to stand up there and pontificate about policy and put people to sleep? Lets wait and see how YOUR hero tells lies and spreads vicious rhetoric about republicans and conservatives.
Pelleas| 8.31.12 @ 8:10AM
That is EXACTLY what the Convention as a whole..and ESPECIALLY the nominee of a Party SHOULD be doing, at their Convention--talking /making policy, yo show the voting public what they stand for--NOT talking to empty chairs..
If a discussion of policy "puts you you to sleep"--well, drink another cup of coffee ...
rightasrain| 8.31.12 @ 9:30AM
The intellectual dishonesty of the left never fails to appall me. Empty promises of "hope and change" were fine from Obama in 2008 but from Romney they want policy specifics.
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 5:19PM
Why is this so difficult?
Everything The Muslim wants to do, has already been done.
It's called - Detroit, Newark, Camden, and every City in Amerika, that has filed for Bankruptcy, this year.
Case Closed.
Jack in Wi| 8.31.12 @ 8:17AM
I hate both Romney and Obama. But I hope Romney wins and I think I may put 6 clothes pins on my nose and vote for him myself. Obama will be another Hugo Chavez. Romney will nothing but an old flop, who can easily be replaced. The Republican Party needs replacing, the sooner the better. I don't work for anyone, unlike you paid flacks from Brigham Young. One good thing about this campaign is that America is being exposed to all the nonsense that is Mormonism. Romney just could not keep his Mormon missionary zeal out of his speech and program last night. I think it went over like a lead balloon.
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 9:43AM
You forgot the Jews, Jackboot the Nazi.
You really, REALLY hate the Joooooozzzz, remember?
Tell us all about how your hero, Adolph Hitler, was such a friend of the Jews because he wanted to ship them all to Madagascar. Putz
Jack in Wi| 8.31.12 @ 10:40AM
George-Nick. You seem a little Deranged again. I am for peace, justice, and understanding for all people. I hate war and warmongers. That means both Romney and Obama. Romney in his speech sounded like he wanted to go to war with Iran, China, and Russia. He really has to get rid of all those delusional Neocons he has running his foreign policy. He had a real chance to connect with real Americans last night and blew it. He could have promised an immediate and complete withdrawal fom Afganistan and done himself a world of good. All he did was turn off the young, libertarians, and independents with his shilling for endless war and stupidity..
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 10:56AM
I assure you, Jackboot the Nazi, that I'm not George. I'm Nick from Detroit. I've been posting comments here for almost 4 years.
You, on the other hand, sound like Jack London. Is he your alter ego?
Tell us all about how your hero, Hitler, was such a mench for not starting the "Final Solution" until 1942. Yutz.
Jack in Wi| 8.31.12 @ 11:20AM
George, George, George: Have a nice weekend. I am headed up north right now. Shalom.
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 11:30AM
To your monthly Klan rally, I'm sure, Jackboot the Nazi.
Don't forget to teach the grandkids how to goose-step.
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 11:06AM
The time when Romney was loudest, as he read from the teleprompter last night, was when he was talking about spending money on the military. For Romney it is all about money. He has financial supporters who are military supply companies. Mitt Romney has to start a war, because he is expected to from the guys why pay for his campaign. Listen to him again, he is really only about the super massive exploitation of taxpayer money to pay back his meal tickets. But yes, he will give us a war to satisfy his own needs.
George True| 9.1.12 @ 1:44PM
Delusional rant.
George True| 9.1.12 @ 1:45PM
Above directed to TrollPartyNow
jothepro| 8.31.12 @ 7:50AM
Jack, It must be hard to live in your skin. I detect a man who is sad with his lot in life and a man who can't seem to move away from his comfort zone. Sometimes after reading your post, I think of how my father never could get away from his past and how he struggled with with his future. I think you are a good and decent man and I wish you nothing but happiness in your life..
Alej| 8.31.12 @ 12:05PM
You watched that, and can write what you just did ?
You are a soulless pedant.
May you wear your chains lightly... and we'll forget that you were our countryman.
vtwin| 8.31.12 @ 3:09PM
When I heard his speech last night it reminded me of Ronald Reagan.
No, no, not Romney’s speech, Eastwood speech, communication and language problem, inability to focus or pay attention, loss of reasoning and judgment...
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 9:27AM
That is because nothing that Romney said last night actually came from Mitt Romney. He had a team of writers come up with a list of every lies, um I mean "promise" that they could think of in order to sell their prize. And then Romney merely read it off of a teleprompter. It isn't real. Romney is a puppet. I feel sorry for any American who gets duped into thinking that they heard the voice of Mitt Romney last night. Any one can criticize his predecessor while offering zero solutions to anything that America faces. Any one can make promises that won't be kept. He said zero of his political career. Wasn't he governor of Massachusetts for four years? Well there wasn't anything worth mentioning there for him last night. You have to pity these fools on the right, being spoon fed lies, and not figuring out that they are acts of dillusion. I feel sorry for America that this is what she gets for her people. It's sad.
Boar Hunter| 8.31.12 @ 11:38AM
I believe you are projecting.
Do you even begin to comprehend what a blithering idiot you sound like trying to lecture anyone on "the right" about reading lies from a teleprompter?
No of course not, all "you people" voted for a Kenyan communist. An associate of known, convicted criminals and terrorists. A drug using, white hating racist and anti-American.
Tom Kyba| 8.31.12 @ 12:20PM
How many posts now, and still none resembling Tea Party ideas. Soon to come, I'm sure.
CJW| 8.31.12 @ 3:13PM
TPN
Why don't you drop the pretense that you are a Tea Party member, and just admit you are for Obama? Nobody believes you are Tea Party. You are only using the Tea Party name to try to add some credibility and weight to your silly opinions. You should proudly announce you are an Obamadolt.
George True| 9.1.12 @ 1:47PM
I refer to him as TrollPartyNow.
Joseph R.| 8.31.12 @ 11:28AM
Infantilizing is what Mitt Romney's speech was all about.
Romney has no intention of saying anything that his audience doesn’t want to hear, and what he thinks his audience wants to hear is that America is great, and the only reason everything isn’t hunky dory is that we are led by a man who doesn’t understand that America is great. So believe in Mitt Romney, who believes in America, and trust that he will do the right things to steer America toward brighter shores. That’s the whole speech, and it’s the whole campaign. It’s really that infantilizing.
Alej| 8.31.12 @ 12:08PM
There must have been an "All Troll Alert" last night. Do you people get a commission for this, or does the activity just titrate the acid in your guts.
vtwin| 8.31.12 @ 3:11PM
Nope, we do it for free.
George True| 9.1.12 @ 1:49PM
Like the kool-aid drinking leftist true believers you are.
aware| 8.31.12 @ 1:40PM
http://www.theamericanconserva.....ng-speech/
Butch| 9.3.12 @ 1:46PM
Sez the guy who voted for hope and change.
Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 8.31.12 @ 5:12PM
" I sense the forlornness in your article. Not blatant but an undercurrent. You were hoping for 1980 but have the nagging feeling of 1996.
It should be a easy one like '96. Except for the talent the GOP has for blowing their foot off. They again have the gun in their hand and you have a bad feeling."
Yes, and it isn't so much their politics (one person's gain in politics is another's loss) it is their smarm:
"every grandson has a right to start his own hotdog and apple pie business on the Fourth of July, and every granddaughter has the right to stitch flags like Betsy Ross did..."
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 5:17PM
Why is this so difficult?
Everything The Muslim wants to do, has already been done.
It's called - Detroit, Newark, Camden, and every City in Amerika, that has filed for Bankruptcy, this year.
Case Closed.
Appleby| 8.31.12 @ 6:48AM
"But my grandfather understood how different America is from the rest of the world, because he knew what life was like outside America."
This is something I really wish more Americans could understand. I have lived in Canada since 1998 and I moved here, for one reason, to be able to understand American exceptionalism from the European point of view. I really believe that it's not possible to fully understand how unique America is if you've never been outside the borders, much less lived out here. One of my favourite little anecdotes is from 1996, when my 14 year old nephew and I were leaving the movies after seeing "Independence Day" in downtown Toronto. We were surrounded by people grumbling about "America saving the world AGAIN." Zack caught the eye of one whiner nearby and said politely but with a grin, "You're Welcome."
janetd| 8.31.12 @ 9:11AM
I totally agree. My husband's family came to the US in the late '70s from Belgium to escape the dead-end that is European socialism. People DO NOT understand what living under socialism really is. What they live under is not freedom but just another form of feudalism wherein the people rely on the state for everything. There are so many dictates, directives, rules and regulations on the most mundane aspect of their lives, and nothing is "free" from the government when you pay for it in high taxes. I think Romney did a great job in highlighting American exceptionalism, and how it is still relevant today.
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 9:32AM
Not true, those of us who are older know what we have lost. I was born in the mid sixties, and we had real freedom growing up. Todays America is a collectivist tyranny ruled welfare nanny state, with fascist schools, communist government workers, and a socialist dictator. America before this modern progressives movement had freedom. The America of today none. And the fact that you now have a right that is a dishonest and corrupt as the left means that freedom is going to stay gone here for a very long time.
Alan Obama Fan Brooks | 8.31.12 @ 5:14PM
" I was born in the mid sixties, and we had real freedom growing up."
Even when Carter was president??
TinaB| 8.31.12 @ 6:58AM
Yes, the GOP has that talent, hence W's second term, bailouts, telling Bibi how to run his country, and spending like a drunken whore. But there is no time left to be forlorn, and RSM knows it. We are nostalgic, a bit, for 1980, but just the feeling of REAL hope, not hopey-changey hope, but wide eyed awake hope, is a new feeling for us after the past 4 years.
I find myself, at 62, too sensitive to watch the convention live, too many assh---s commenting and guest/ poseurs pontificating, so I read the people I love, like RSM, to get the views of the proceedings. Thanks, guys, and Lisa F, for keeping it real, and giving me some of the same warm feelings you got while covering it. I will post that Rubio quote about "American Excetionalism," on my fb page, it is absolutely what my Eurpean parents taught me growing up. I am British by birth, Polish by Dad's nationality, but American by naturalization, and by heart. I sync with Rubio's speech all the way.
"God bless America, land that I love. Stand beside her, and guide her, through the night with the Light from above."
JmsA| 9.1.12 @ 5:51PM
Nice post, TinaB.
TinaB| 9.3.12 @ 8:22AM
Thanks for encouragement, Jms.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 7:25AM
As I expected, Romney fell flat. Pick me, I'm not Obama. Obama is bad, I will be better. Don't look at BAIN, don't talk about Massachusetts and RomneyCare, don't examine the 1.3 billion in Government bailout of the Olympics, just imagine all the good things about America and associate them with me, I am Mitt Romney.
I wonder how many classy people turned off the TV when Clint Eastwood went on rambling and kept saying "I can't do that to myself"... talking to a chair?
The Avenger| 8.31.12 @ 7:46AM
Once again perp, you show the emptiness of the progressive mind. You castigate Romney for being the anti-Obummer, but fail to see how Obummer has spent 4 years destroying this country by proclaiming himself to be the anti-Bush. Let's face the facts, Obummer is an unmitigated disaster, but you and the rest of his sycophants have your head too far up his posterior to see it.
jothepro| 8.31.12 @ 7:51AM
Ditto to that Avenger..
Truth to Power| 8.31.12 @ 8:45AM
The perp plays a game of trying to lower morale. All our trolls play at this. What they don't realize is that their mere presence raises morale. Talking point clowns are very entertaining. They expose the empty rhetoric of progressives and at the same time demonstrate that a smart progressive is hard to find. Joe Biden is the intellectual force behind the progressive movement.
Alej| 8.31.12 @ 12:18PM
I read the trolls' pathetic attempts to convince real Americans here that conservatism is doomed... and am reminded of a woodcut of Prince John surrounded by the barons at his forced signing of the Magna Carta... throwing himself down on the ground and biting himself in apoplectic chagrin and frustration.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 8:58AM
You couldn't do worse than GW Bush in modern American history. Obama saved this country from complete financial collapse and fought the obstructionist Republicans, won the IraQ War, Killed Osama Bin Laden, gave us Affordable Care blessed by the Conservative Roberts Court, took down Libyan Dictator Qadafi, put GM back at #1 and saved the Auto Industry, signed an historic Nuclear Arms Treaty with Russia, ended Don't Ask Don't Tell, Implemented what he could for the Dream Act without the stupid Republicans in Congress who don't care about Latinos, gave Seniors preventive healthcare, closed the donut hole for them, pushed for and signed College Loan assistance for students, signed trade agreements with Colombia and S.Korea, conducted clandestine drone wars, WITHOUT invasion by huge armies, brought down the deficit, helped a million homeowners with mortgages and created or saved 8 million jobs after the Bush Depression began!
Want more?
Truth to Power| 8.31.12 @ 9:40AM
You didn't have to do an immediate demonstration of just how ridiculous you are. Remember we are laughing at you and not with you.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 10:12AM
And, yet, you cannot refute the truth - you don't even try. I get that. You're counting on racism turning whites against the President - you trot out his wife, who never worked a real job, other than having Mitt's kids and playing horsie to appeal to women (which didn't).
But overall, it's the same Obama bad, Romney good. Trust me. But don't look at what I've done at BAIN, as pro-choice, pro-gay, pro-Obamneycare Governor of Mass, pro-government bailout Olympics. Oh, no, I'm successful, made a lot of money, but I won't let you see or explain how I made that money - Oh, no - but TRUST ME - I am Mitt the Twit!
Demoralizing? Who cares? A winner, no.
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 10:55AM
Romney can't win, he has nothing that we can sink our teeth into. The guy can read a speech that he didn't write off of a teleprompter and all of a sudden truth doesn't matter any more. They know Ryan lies more than anything else. They know Mitt Romney doesn't not have a shred of honesty. They know that both of these men are going to hell for lying. But they are stuck with these two establishment elitist lying puppets. The people on the right couldn't stand up for the truth if their own lives, and their souls depended on it. They've got a preacher who is taking them all too hell, Mark Levin. He teaches them how to never question anything they are told by a politician on the right. He creates good, uncaring, ignorant, drones. Hence American Spectator 2012.
DTOM| 8.31.12 @ 4:02PM
TPN:
I think you have a little problem:
Lies are things that are NOT so.
Truth is things that ARE so.
You have that reversed. If you correct this minor problem - you will find that you can understand all that is said her by the normal, non-troll population.
Try it - you might like it.
Otherwise, I can only notice that every statement you make, you immediately contradict.
Romney can't win - nothing we can sink our teeth into. If there is nothing to sink your teeth into you cannot find his errors, mistakes, so this means he's going to lose?
This cannot stand even the mildest sanity check. As the rest of your inane, insane, illogical post cannot.
You are exhibiting such a complete failure of fundamental mental processes that I fear for your safety. You might want to get some psychological care. Seriously, I am not kidding. You do not seem to be able to separate reality from what you wish were reality. Get some help. Don't waste your time posting here-see a doctor. The only thing you are convincing anyone is that you are incapable of rational thought.
Good luck!
DTOM
Truth to Power| 8.31.12 @ 10:57AM
"...you don't even try."
Trolls should only be mocked. Take down the faded Obama poster and get on with your life.
George S| 8.31.12 @ 11:08AM
What racism? Racism ended on November 4. 2008 when the first black man was elected president. Further evidence of racism's demise was the record high 70 percent approval numbers for Obama in 2009. The last 30 percenters were not all racists; so lets say half -- 15% -- were probably racists.
So how can Romney count on Racism when it will only get him 15% of the vote? (Remember: he is an Evil Corporatist bean counter who know how people think so he can steal from them).
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 11:19AM
George, George - did you miss the TeaBagger Rallies with Obama painted with a Swastika at the same time displaying him as a monkey? If you can't be honest, there is no debate.
You know full well, the Republican campaign is filled with "code words" for the term they cannot speak.
JD| 8.31.12 @ 2:48PM
Democrats used both Swastikas and monkeys routinely in anti-Bush propaganda. I can find no evidence of the Tea Party using a monkey against Obama, though a Swastika is simply appropriate for a fascist.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 5:13PM
Bush ancestors did not come from Africa, nor were they slaves. Try as you can, there isn't reverse racism. We whites have always had the power, the top of the heap. WE cannot be harmed by racism regardless of how much you scream.
Whether you understand it or like it, that is just the way it is. So stop complaining and be happy you ARE white.
JD| 8.31.12 @ 2:48PM
Democrats used both Swastikas and monkeys routinely in anti-Bush propaganda. I can find no evidence of the Tea Party using a monkey against Obama, though a Swastika is simply appropriate for a fascist.
DTOM| 8.31.12 @ 4:11PM
Purp,
Only if George shares your psychotic delusions.
You saw the swastikas and monkeys only in your imagination! Because the only explanation you can conceive to explain the existence and persistence of all those Tea Party people, obviously sane, calm, rational people diametrically opposed to your "thinking," is that they are all full of hate. (And of course, you are not!) Which they demonstrably are not. You are deluding yourself and are in danger of losing contact with reality.
Get help! Quick! Before you harm yourself or some one else.
Really!
DTOM
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 5:29PM
blah, blah, blah ... nothing to say, don't say anything.
George S| 8.31.12 @ 5:17PM
Shirley, Shirley -- even if I accept your premise that those signs were carried by TEA party types, that still doesn't change a basic hard reality:
How can a nation of racists give a black man the presidency AND an approval rating of 70%?
George True| 9.1.12 @ 1:55PM
The PerpTroll is always good for a laugh. The only place his "facts" are true is in his own little parallel universe that he inhabits.
vtwin| 8.31.12 @ 3:28PM
…and 8 years from now conservatives will be telling themselves it was all (Osama, Qadafi, GM, the economic recovery...) because John Boehner and the Republicons took the House in 2010.
Petronius| 8.31.12 @ 6:25PM
No. We're fed up being taxed to subsidize your deficiencies.
George True| 9.1.12 @ 1:53PM
Only in your own little Bizarro World, Perp.
Goldwater Girl| 8.31.12 @ 9:30AM
Turned off? Not at all. I'm not surprised that your prissy ass was offended though, although it didn't bother you when Obama flipped Hillary off. Selective outrage indeed.
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 9:37AM
"Pick Me. I'm Not Obama."
That's good enough for me.
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 11:00AM
So, what you are saying is that anyone is better than Obama. Harry Reid, is better than Obama, you'd vote for Harry Reid for Americas next President. Nancy Peolsi is better than Obama, you'd like to see Nancy Pelosi be Americas next President. Barney Frank, he is not Obama, you'd also vote him into the presidency of the United States. Your criteria couldn't get any lower, hence Romney/Ryan.
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 11:10AM
I'm saying that ANY REPUBLICAN is better than the Buckwheat Marxist we got in there, now.
How does someone go about getting as Fckng Stupid, as you seem to be?
Do you need to get a Shot? Electric Shock?
Have you had a Testicle removed, or a part of you Frontal Lobe removed?
Cause you are one dumb Stupid MFer.
But, you already know that, don't you?
Then again, you're so Stupid, you probably don't, do ya?
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 9:53PM
Racism on display - at least your blatant about it.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 11:20AM
You'd vote for a pig if it wasn't Obama - oh, that's right, you are voting for a pig - a Corporate Pig. There isn't enough money to buy enough lipstick to put enough lipstick on that Romney Pig. Nope, that dog don't hunt.
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 9:37AM
That speech last night was the creation of a team of fictional writers. It did not come from Mitt Romney. Which means that he can not keep saying the same things. He read a prepared speech off of a teleprompter last night, which is why it hit flat. It wasn't real. That stage show last night, the only thing that was real was Clint Eastwood. The rest of it, promises that aren't even understood by the guy who made them. Pathetic, dishonest, and just sick. I pity the right wingers who are below being able to see the truth about their governments today. Mitt Romney perpetuates ignorance of the American People, and keeps us down.
DTOM| 8.31.12 @ 4:16PM
TPN-ever notice that Barack Obama never goes anywhere without TOTUS?
Remember we didn't have a TOTUS until BHO was sworn in. You are projecting your anxiety about your candidate Obama onto Romney.
Mental illness!! Get help!
And if Romney used writers maybe Obama should steal that idea- BHO might never have said "You didn't build that." "You've got to spread the money around..." "clinging to their guns and Bibles..." "I don't know the facts but the police were wrong..."
And on and on and on....
Again, TPN-get yourself some help!!!
Tom Kyba| 8.31.12 @ 12:22PM
Suddenly Eastwood is a bum. Who'da thunk it?
CJW| 8.31.12 @ 1:25PM
Profound analysis from the Village Idiot, Purpie/jack. So we do not have the purp vote.
Romney will win in a landslide. Get used to it. O is toast.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 2:07PM
Todd "Legitimate Rape" Akin begs to differ. So does Rush "She's a Whore" Limbaugh.
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 7:37PM
It was "slut," Burp. As in Sandy the Slut. Get it right.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 9:54PM
Yeah, Sooooo much better for a daytime show. Rush is a PIG.
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 10:48PM
No, Burp, Maher is a PIG.
Michael Moore is a HIPPO.
Babs Boxer is a TROLL.
Bubba Clinton is a RAPIST.
Alec Baldwin is a CHILD ABUSER.
And....Sandy Fluke is a SLUT.
TinaB| 9.1.12 @ 6:08AM
Short 'n sweet, Nick, you da man!
Nick| 9.2.12 @ 6:50PM
Thanks, TinaB. You da babe!
Ken (Old Texican)| 8.31.12 @ 7:54AM
Well well well
it is obvious these twerps above have had their talking points handed to them early this week and they have been sharpening their knives ever since.
Well, Mr. Romney spoke to me last night. We either opt for robust capitalism for our future.....or we slide down into a hopeless socialism. I understand what is at stake. Do you guys?
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 9:35AM
They don't care.
They have donned their Purple Jogging Suits, put on their Sneakers, and have already layed down to await the effects of the Koolaide they just drank.
Soon, the Comet will pass by, and they will be whisked away on a Space Ship, and taken to Nirvana.
This is where these people are, in their heads.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 11:23AM
So, since the Bush Tax cuts were extended and all kinds of small business tax cuts and payroll tax cuts were added, which is the only thing the Romney/Ryan campaign has to offer - what exactly is going to create "robust capitalism"? Killing Medicare? Slashing Food Stamps? Gutting Education? I await your answer ...
CJW| 8.31.12 @ 1:27PM
Purpie/jack
Explain again the 716 Billion Dollar Heist from Medicare by Obama.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 2:11PM
"Ryan said Obama "funneled" $716 billion out of Medicare "at the expense of the elderly." This gives a very misleading impression.
In fact, the law limits payments to health care providers and insurers to try to reduce the rapid growth of future Medicare spending. Lawmakers said they hoped the measures would improve care and efficiency. Those savings, spread out over the next 10 years, are then used to offset costs created by the law (especially coverage for the uninsured) so that the overall law doesn't add to the deficit. Ryan’s statement is exaggerated and we rate it Mostly False."
The rest you can read for yourself, you LIAR.
http://www.politifact.com/trut.....16-billio/
JD| 8.31.12 @ 2:46PM
You speak of lipstick on a pig, Purp, well, here it is! Obama's move is taking money of out Medicare. Period. That they "hoped" the measures would improve care and efficiency, rather than simply reducing care, is BS. Total BS. I might as well steal your wallet and tell you I'm doing it to teach you a lesson about living with less money.
Democrats think that they can institute price controls in ways such that the losses will be incurred solely by the "too rich" and not affect the rank-and-file. Only a "fact-checker" that buys such BS could possibly take their side on this.
A tremendous amount of the lying that comes from the Left comes simply from their requiring us all to assume that their "good intentions", no matter how ludicrous, will play out.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 5:31PM
Argue with Politifact, idiot, not me.
It's well known Conservatives want to reverse FDR and LBJ's programs for the people .. they have been trying for decades. We're on to you, and Seniors aren't stupid!
JD| 8.31.12 @ 6:49PM
Yes, we do want to reverse your programs. We also want to reverse the spread of cancer. The two have a lot in common.
You liberals must someday learn that simply declaring that you have good intentions does not make your programs automatically good.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 9:55PM
And you have no good intentions... we get that. That's why we fight you. America is good, blessed by God and your brand of hate and greed doesn't belong here.
CJW| 8.31.12 @ 3:18PM
Purpie/jack
Only a brain dead Obamadolt like you believes that paying doctors and hospitals less is not a cut but a savings. Doctors and hospitals will have costs that rise each year, such as rent,salaries, insurance, etc. But Medicare will pay them less. I know this economics is tough for a basement residing idiot like you.
Everyone knows, even you, that Medicare is cutting the amount it pays to doctors and hospitals. You are either completely stupid or a liar, I think both, because you repeat the DNC line.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 5:36PM
CJ - then I guess they will have to join a union or put up with less salary, huh? Just like all workers in this country have to in order to compete in the world. Personally, I appreciate doctors and nurses that dedicate themselves to help people, not just to make the almighty buck - especially when we are all hurting.
I'm sure you don't appreciate them do you?
But the point is that Obamacare scaled back Bush's privatization of Medicare called Medicare Advantage, which was a giveaway to Insurance companies. It didn't touch traditional Medicare, or the Seniors benefits on Medicare. Obamacare did use some of the savings to give Seniors preventive care and to close the drug donut hole.
So stop lying about Medicare - your party wants to dismantle it and have been trying for decades and Seniors know it. You have lost, you just don't know it yet.
JD| 8.31.12 @ 6:51PM
You speak utterly without context, as if doctors are billionaires being asked to take tiny cuts, not people who will literally be forced out of business at Obama's rates.
The true fate of doctors under ObamaCare is exactly what you want it to be - they will become dependent on social welfare. That's what your party is ultimately about in every case - fostering dependence, to justify your programs!
CJW| 8.31.12 @ 7:59PM
Purpie/jack
Great idea to organize the doctors. You are so stupid that you do not realize that Medicare is ot the employer so the Union cannot bargain with Medicare . A union bargains with the employer. Unless you think the Fed Government will be the employer of the doctors and hospitals,then you may have point.
You just admitted that Medicare will be cut, idiot.
Romney.
Obama is toast, desperate. Biden is a national joke.
Romney by a landslide.
George S| 8.31.12 @ 4:59PM
Ah, politifact... how about paper facts:
(a) FINDINGS.—The Senate makes the following findings:
(1) Based on Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates, this Act will reduce the Federal deficit between 2010 and 2019.
(2) CBO projects this Act will continue to reduce budget deficits after 2019.
(3) Based on CBO estimates, this Act will extend the solvency of the Medicare HI Trust Fund. -- Sec 1563 PPACA
"CBO estimates that enacting H.R. 3961 together with those two bills would add $59 billion to budget deficits over the 2010–2019 period[.]
The increase in the balances of the HI trust fund that would result from enacting H.R. 3590 and the reconciliation proposal might suggest that significant additional resources—$398 billion plus additional interest to be credited to the trust fund over time—had been set aside to pay for future Medicare benefits. However, only the additional savings by the government as a whole truly increase the government’s ability to pay for future Medicare benefits or other programs, and those would be much smaller ($138 billion plus interest savings to be achieved over time). In effect, the majority of the HI trust fund savings under H.R. 3590 and the reconciliation proposal would be used to pay for other spending and therefore would not enhance the ability of the government to pay for future Medicare benefits." -- CBO letter to Paul Ryan March 2010
Politidreaming is more like it.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 5:42PM
Thank YOU! You've proven the point in your emphasis.
Since the Supreme Court blessed Obamacare, it WILL save money and increase Medicare solvency and you've given the proof.
In any case, since the letter is Paul Ryan, as Budget Chairman, you should know that the CBO makes estimates based on what is asked of it.
If you don't know what Paul Ryan asked (they don't just write letters to Congressmen for no reason) then you don't have the full story.
The Republicans are lying and you are either ignorant or malicious... I will assume you are ignorant of the CBO process in responding to inquiries by Congress.
JD| 8.31.12 @ 6:53PM
Your dishonesty is simply appalling.
CJW| 8.31.12 @ 8:03PM
JD
Pupie/jack lies constantly about facts here. His opinions are silly and illogical, just repeating DNC emails, but do not believe any "facts" he presents.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 9:58PM
I wish I got emails, I don't. Unlike you all that complain that I do,actually DO get your talking points from your masters - otherwise you would never even think of it. You can't blame others for something you've never thought about yourself.
Pelleas| 8.31.12 @ 8:00AM
I think the empty chair was the only thing of substance , this whole week-- IT would make a better Republican nominee, then the duo you Elephants have chosen to lead you into defeat.
And--couldn't you Repugs have sprung for giving poor 'ol SENILE Clint a friggin comb??
jothepro| 8.31.12 @ 8:18AM
Pelleas or is it Pellass, You liberals are always so nice to people who aren't like you. Name calling is a big part of your arguments because there is nothing there.
Pelleas| 8.31.12 @ 8:40AM
jothepro:
BELIEVE IT OR NOT.. in "real" life . I am the poster-child for civil discourse-- even among friends of mine who have wacked out right-wing views..
Unfortunately, I have learned from the general tone on this particular site, that the ONLY THING THAT you wing-nuts-HERE- seem to respond to , is talking in the same manner that y'all do--insults/filth/innuendos/name-calling/etc...
"WHEN IN ROME..."
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 9:29AM
When in Rome?
You mean When in Greece, right?
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 9:37AM
Ha-ha! Good one, Mr. Pennell.
It's ALL Greek to tinker-bell.
Pelleas| 8.31.12 @ 12:06PM
TLP:
You seem to know all about Grecian and French practices... I'm sure from first -hand experience..All I wonder is, do you take it in your mouth AND butt?
DTOM| 8.31.12 @ 4:19PM
So, pelleas, this is what you hold forth as civil discourse?
Nice try...slimey thing that is. Civil, not in any way. Period.
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 4:49PM
He's just doing what all women do, when they get Hysterical.
TinaB| 9.1.12 @ 6:15AM
Insults/filth/innuendo/name calling, thy name is Pelleas.
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 10:45AM
It's hard not to stoop a little around these drones. But seriously, their nominee is Mitt Romney. The lashing out can't be helped, subconsciously they know they are all getting the most corrupt establishment of D.C. that America has ever seen in the right, just as we are under the same by the left. The establishment republicans who put on that production of fictional government, and a media that also feeds them lies is all that the American People of the right have to cling to now. Of course they lash out. Not like they can grow a spine, stand upright, be real Americans, and disallow tyranny, now is it? These guys dreams are cesspool dwelling. And yes, they bring us down with them too. Wonder what they'll look like after Obama wins a second term. Oh wait, Romney has another teleprompter fed fantasy for us. Too bad right, the American People want the truth and you are not it.
Tom Kyba| 8.31.12 @ 12:27PM
Mr. Teaparty who isn't man enough to apply an honest user name to himself condescends to others again.
Pelleas| 8.31.12 @ 9:16AM
AND..the NAME IS PELLEAS..as in The Opera, "Pelleas et Mellisande"..( just another example of the way you guys think is "amusing" to skew someone's name....)
DarkMan| 8.31.12 @ 10:43AM
So..Mr P... are you Gay? Not that there's anything wrong with that! What's amusing is The Opera review - "sickly and practically lifeless", like the current Donkey-party.
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 11:13AM
He's Gay.
Don't they like DarkMen?
Calling AlanObamaLover.
Please Confirm.
Pelleas| 8.31.12 @ 12:09PM
Actually "P &M" is only "life-less and sickly" to those that only have the patience for more bombastic Operas..the music for "P & M" is the most subtle and sublime 20th Cent operatic music, in the Rep...
And , for what it is worth--YES, I am Gay...so what?
Alej| 8.31.12 @ 12:24PM
"And , for what it is worth--YES, I am Gay...so what?"
So you are as diseased, filthy, repulsive and disgusting in your physical activities as you are in your pitiful attempts at prose.
That's what.
Pelleas| 8.31.12 @ 3:16PM
Actually--I have NO diseases, at all..
AND..
My partner finds me anything but "repulsive", or "disgusting"..and I am pretty fastidious about proper hygiene-so I am far from filthy..
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 4:51PM
Great.
There goes my appetite.
Shouldn't you be getting a Blood Test, or something, Dumbass?
Boar Hunter| 8.31.12 @ 11:43AM
Pennis?
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 4:53PM
I don't get it.
Tom Kyba| 8.31.12 @ 12:28PM
Congratulations on your willingness to explain your pretentious user name. Nothing more need be said.
Pelleas| 8.31.12 @ 3:19PM
It is actually my birth-name--so what is so "pretentious" about that?--my Mother was a well known singer , in France and Israel--and this was her favorite Opera, and her calling-card..
Boar Hunter| 8.31.12 @ 4:00PM
Your mother named you penis?
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 4:54PM
No.
The guy who was banging her SHOWED HIM his Penis.
The rest is History.
Pelleas| 8.31.12 @ 9:54PM
TLP:
REAL CLASSY...
I WOULDN'T EXPECT ANYTHING LESS FROM THE SWINE YOU ARE..
same to you BOOR-haunted
It's (not so ) funny that the wing-nuts have to resort to 3rd grade school-yard moronic insults ..
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 10:36AM
Eastwood was the only real person in the whole of the convention. That same audience has been their for sixty years. The establishment of the right just gets more and more like the left. Romneys speech, not written by him and read off of a teleprompter, is the end of truth on the American right. It's pretty bad when hollywood actors are the only one being genuine and real anymore. Pretty sad indeed.
Von Mises Jr| 8.31.12 @ 8:28AM
Revolutions do not always happen in dramatic fashion like the American or French Revolutions. The USSR imploded without much of a whimper. China moved to more capitalism and property rights while it still hasn't discarded the totalitarian regime.
Governments reform or they lose the consent of the people. Rubio and the rise of conservative stars in the GOP rings loud this revolution, or if you prefer evolution. It seems unlikely that the message next week with many of the liberals failing to even show up will have a clear and reasonable message. They are doomed now or in the near future.
The question remains whether they will fade into the sunset as did the USSR, or will the (P) Regressive movement will bring havoc to our land.
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 10:30AM
Seems unlikely that Romney will succeed given that he doesn't think America has any problems that can't be fixed with his money. This isn't a revolution, this is the sweeping of a marxist nanny state, fascist schools and communist government workers unions under the carpet. While placating us with a jobs carrot. Anyone can promise the moon. Any one can criticize others while hiding their own past. Anyone can make empty promises. Anyone can read a speech written by a team of speech writers and read it off of a teleprompter like Romney did last night. Any one can lie, and have the American right believe every word. You still don't know any of Mitt Romney or Paul Ryans records do you cutesy doll? Too pretty to have a functioning mind are you? You are the sickest of the sick on this board. Swallowing b.s. like no tomorrow and spitting it back out at us. People like you are why America is dying. You believe anything you are told.
Mike G| 8.31.12 @ 12:02PM
"...While placating us with a jobs carrot. Anyone can promise the moon. Any one can criticize others while hiding their own past. Anyone can make empty promises. Anyone can read a speech written by a team of speech writers and read it off of a teleprompter ..."
Wow! Sounds like your talking about Obama.
Al Adab| 8.31.12 @ 12:02PM
Wow! Those cynical pills are really getting to you aren't they Mr. Now? Is this ticket the answer to our national problem of centralization and statism? Clearly not as they promise only to better manage the social;-welfare state. Nonetheless, any administration which proposes free markets over central planning MUST have our votes. This will be a long road to overturn a fifty year drift (in both parties) toward centralization, but the journey must begin. Only then can we ultimately roll back the culture of dependency which has been promulgated all too long.
The GOP will always disappoint due to the party penchant for always taking the safe route. None here are more saddened by the nomination of Romney than I, yet all here understand the stakes for if we fail, the light of liberty will fade into a long dark night of tyranny only to be rediscovered five hundred years from now after a new and terrible Dark Age.
WRTolkas| 8.31.12 @ 8:36AM
I am not voting for a hollywood actor or a rock-star. I am voting for a man with business sense and a moral backbone. If you want someone who is a wizz with a teleprompter, hates success, and has the morals of an alley cat then keep Gatsby the community organizer in office. And may G_d help us.
Everyone have a safe weekend and Labor Day holiday.
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 10:23AM
Mitt Romneys speech at the RNC was written for him by a team of professional speech writers, and read by him off of a teleprompter. So, if you don't like teleprompters, Romney is as much of a puppet as Obama is.
WRTolkas| 8.31.12 @ 1:57PM
I witnessed Mr. Romney give a darn good thirty-minute talk standing on a platform in Holland, Michigan, a few months ago - just him, his wife, and a microphone.
AND NO TELEPROMPTER.
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 4:58PM
Actually, I sincerely doubt that Mitt Romney, or anyone else, for that matter, would drag his Teleprompter in to an Elementary School, to talk to 5th Graders, the way President Tell Me What To Say did.
Right?
C. Vernon Crisler | 8.31.12 @ 8:38AM
I have to say I was rather disappointed with Rubio and Romney last night. Clint Eastwood pretty much stole the show.
I have no doubt Romney will try to apply sound economic and business policies to the US economy, and that's a good thing.
But as Jack Kemp used to say, man does not live by bread alone. He meant that politics was more than technique, more than economics or finance, that man needed something to satisfy his soul.
Unfortunately, all we got last night were heart-warming stories about how successful people have made it in America -- something even Democrats can brag about.
We heard no discussion of political philosophy; no quotations from our founding fathers or Lincoln, or even Reagan. Indeed, last night was largely a Reagan-free convention. The Republican Party has fallen a long way since the Reagan years. Paul Ryan is the only hopeful island in a sea of blandness.
That said, however, Obama has to go, and Romney is the only way to get to that desired end, and also the elimination of Obamacare. It's time to once again hold our noses at another Republican moderate and pull the lever against Obama and Obamacare.
Jack London| 8.31.12 @ 8:46AM
If Clint stole the show you really have got problems.
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 10:20AM
Clint Eastwood was awesome. He was genuine, in a long line of teleprompter read propaganda. Clint just did it the old fashioned way, and actually used his own mind to think of things to say. He was the best out of the entire thing. That is what I have always liked about Sarah Palin, she is a real person amid a sea of conniving lunatics with painted smiles and fantastical speeches.
Romney/Ryan are right wing puppets for the establishment of despotic D.C..
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 10:16AM
Do you have any idea how many lies Ryan told in his speech at the RNC? You should look for a story, there are many, on how many lies Ryan continues to tell even after he has been caught. Paul Ryan has been a fixture in Washington D.C. for more than twenty years, and still can not mention on thing that he has accomplished? That speech last night was not created by Mitt Romney. Romney merely read off of a teleprompter last night, which is why the speaker was so null.
All last night shows is that the American People are so easily fooled by politicians and medias, that America will never be able to celebrate the forth of July as if they had a shred of independence from tyranny. The American People are being duped all of the way around. It's a sad way for America to die. But you just can't tell people not to trust medias and politicians anymore.
There are too many people like Mark Levin, who teach us that we never can question the intentions of our politicians, if they are a certain label. We are a long way from home, a very, very long way from freedom.
JD| 8.31.12 @ 3:19PM
What the Left calls lies are not lies.
And what a hypocrite you are, to condemn a teleprompter, or a congressman with no signature legislation.
Jack London| 8.31.12 @ 8:51AM
I wonder who said these:
"I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it."
"Roe v. Wade has gone too far."
"I don't line up with the NRA."
"I'm a member of the [NRA]."
"I like mandates. The mandates work."
"I think it's unconstitutional on the 10th Amendment front."
"I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose."
"I never really called myself pro-choice."
"I saw my father march with Martin Luther King."
"I did not see it with my own eyes."
"I supported the assault weapon ban."
"I don't support any gun control legislation."
"I think the minimum wage ought to keep pace with inflation."
"There's no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs."
"I will work and fight for stem cell research."
"In the end, I became persuaded that the stem-cell debate was grounded in a false premise."
"I would like to have campaign spending limits."
"The American people should be free to advocate for their candidates and their positions without burdensome limitations."
"I'm a strong believer in stating your position and not wavering."
"I changed my position."
"Detroit needs a turnaround, not a check."
"I'll take a lot of credit for the fact that this industry's come back."
"I'm not in favor of privatizing Social Security or making cuts."
"Social Security's the easiest and that's because you can give people a personal account."
Jack London| 8.31.12 @ 8:51AM
cont.
"I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush."
"Ronald Reagan is... my hero."
"I've been a hunter pretty much all my life."
"Any description of my being a hunter is an overstatement of capability."
"If Massachusetts succeeds in implementing it, then that will be a model for the nation."
"What works in one state may not be the answer for another."
"It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam."
"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there."
"It's a tax cut for fat cats."
"I believe the tax on capital gains should be zero."
"It's not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person."
"He's going to pay, and he will die."
"The TARP program... was nevertheless necessary to keep banks from collapsing in a cascade of failures."
"When government is... bailing out banks... we have every good reason to be alarmed."
"These carbon emission limits will provide real and immediate progress."
"Republicans should never abandon pro-growth conservative principles in an effort to embrace the ideas of Al Gore."
"Those... paying taxes and not taking government benefits should begin a process toward application for citizenship."
"Amnesty only led to more people coming into the country."
"When I first heard of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy, I thought it sounded awfully silly."
"Don't Ask, Don't Tell has worked well."
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 9:52AM
Last night speech was created by a team of speech writers, not one word came from Mitt Romney. He will be contradicting his acceptance speech now.
But he spoon fed success the the companies of bain, and did the work that it took to get America gold medals in the olympics, don't you know? Mitt Romney is god you know. They said so at his convention. Politicians are the most truthful people on earth, right?
p.s. I feel sad for my country.
DTOM| 8.31.12 @ 4:25PM
TPN - you betcha! Russia is in really bad shape under Putin!
Good luck with that, comrade!
John II| 8.31.12 @ 4:41PM
Useful points, Jackie. I hadn't realized how truly sensible Romney has become over the years. It shows that he's a thinking man, with a flexible mind capable of change in the application of his principles to policy issues.
Most people of my acquaintance seem frozen into the views they settled on at about age 17 or 18, spouting for the rest of their days what they vaguely recollect from this or that high school teacher or punch-drunk father-figure. Cf. the Professor, now in his fifties.
Mitt's in his sixties and still thinking. Gosh.
And now back to "Flash Gordon Conquers the Universe" (1940), the last in the three sets of space serials produced by Universal and starring Buster Crabbe in a role of impressive flexibility, albeit a tad marred by wooden acting. Frank Shannon plays Dr. Zarkov, a brilliant scientist whose thoughts about the universe are guided more by insight and experience than by method or ideology.
Louis Jenkins| 8.31.12 @ 8:56AM
Well, I thought it was a pretty good speech. Romney spoke on what we already know- that there is a thing as American Exceptionalism, that America is truly the last shining city on the hill, and that we must create and rebuild. I am waiting on pins and needles to see what Obama comes up with. I'll have to admit my opinion was reserved on Romney, until some personal testimonies by private citizens were presented. And though the detractors made fun of Eastwood's presentation, the entire convention came off positive. The whole message that our country was created with God's guiding hand is true. Let us remember that.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 2:16PM
Did you expect him to fall on his face? They had months to rehearse, and still it fell flat.
JD| 8.31.12 @ 3:20PM
It's remarkable how a speech that, more than anything, resembled an Obama speech, could be so condemned by people who think Obama's the greatest speaker ever!
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 6:44PM
We'll see next week and then come back and apologize pal.
Obama gave specifics, Romney gave platitudes and generalities.
"We can do better"... WOW how substantive that is. Every time you take a crap, you can do better. So?
JD| 8.31.12 @ 6:55PM
You will not possibly make an honest comparison of the speeches. You are incapable of it. You will compare Romney's most empty platitude to Obama's most specific statement. I already know this is what you will do. There is no point in going through the exercise.
Obama IS an empty platitude. Or an empty chair.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 10:00PM
You already know you have an empty suit running for President, I feel sorry for you in search of the next Ronald Reagan. You don't have one, and none on the horizon.
George True| 9.1.12 @ 2:07PM
An empty limousine pulled up to the white house and Obama got out.
TinaB| 9.1.12 @ 6:23AM
That was pitiful. And you are pathetic.
WinstonS| 8.31.12 @ 9:02AM
I am so thankful for Republican party to have Rubio and Ryan in leadership positions. They represent my generation, the 'Reagan Babies'. We grew up with President Reagan on TV. We are old enough to remember that something did change in America for the better and young enough to now be entering into leadership positions. To once again make a better change. To remember when it was morning in America. Like Rubio, I am the son of immigrants and watched my parents work difficult jobs and endure many hardships so I could have a better life than they did. I selected a military career instead of politics and now 24 years later I still am proudly serving and even prouder that I am seeing my generation stepping up and keeping the spirit of all that President Reagan did and stood for alive. Liberal comments to this article only prove how powerful that spirit is. Liberals (Statists) ran out of ideas long ago, but are still trying to jam their square peg into the round hole that is the promise of America. I truly hope that adults will once again occupy the White House and Congress come January 2013.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 2:17PM
You are then too young to remember the kinder gentler world created by the "Greatest Generation". Too bad, you have no idea how Reagan ruined this country and that's why we are where we are today.
JD| 8.31.12 @ 2:40PM
Too bad, you have no idea how FDR ruined this country and that's why we are where we are today.
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 5:01PM
He has no idea how Obama has ruined this Country, and that's why we are where we are, today.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 6:42PM
Ha - you should ask your Grandpa about FDR and how he saved this country AND capitalism. Other countries didn't save capitalism (Germany, Japan, Russia, Italy at least).
You obviously know nothing about how Reagan was a transformational President. He transformed the country against workers, for the corporations and Big business, started the deficit train and ballooned the national debt which continued under every single Republican President since.
And, now, now when the worst of all, Baby Bush, pushed a near Depression onto President Obama, NOW, you worry about debt. Sorry, that dog don't hunt.
Derek Leaberry| 8.31.12 @ 9:10AM
Senator Rubio has got it wrong when he claims that Americans are "bound together by common values." I don't share any value with Barack Obama except that we both are married to our first wives. President Obama's values are perverse and antithetical to my values. I want no part of Barack Obama's concept of America as he would not like mine.
janetd| 8.31.12 @ 9:17AM
Therein lies the problem in this country. America's historic common values are not so common any more with 50% of the population. While this election should and will be decided on economic issues, the underlying cultural divisions are really at the heart of what divides this country.
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 9:57AM
In other words, the marxist nanny state, and fascist schools, our little side issues of social values, those can rot and go to hell. What we need is a baid aid without ever seeing the severed jugular, right?
The right is playing to lose. The right has no game of its own. The right has no leaders fighting for conservative values. In all that is wrong here, money alone can fix it is the only message coming from the right today. Sad. And damn wrong.
Derek Leaberry| 8.31.12 @ 10:24AM
You are right, Janet. Whether economic growth is 3 percent, 1 percent or -1 percent matters very little. America has plenty of affluence, so much that all the stadiums will be filled next Sunday watching uneducated, often criminal-minded, millionaires play football. As for the debt, bankruptcy is assured no matter which party wins the White House. Actuarial tables combined with the will of the American people demand it. The real fight is what kind of nation we are. Obama's America is a post-modern America that turns its back on the American past, Christianity, the Founding Fathers, Western Civilization. Americans from George Washington to Daniel Boone to Robert E. Lee to George Patton are anathema to the Obama post-modernists. They hate everything I honor.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 2:17PM
How would you know what his values are?
JD| 8.31.12 @ 2:33PM
Your side constantly professes to be able to read our minds. Can we not read yours?
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 6:45PM
Uh, okay, genius - what are his values?
Derek Leaberry| 8.31.12 @ 2:54PM
Barry Davis is very much the creature of Stanley Ann Dunham and the man who might be his true father, Marshall Davis. In any event, Davis was Barry's surrogate papa.
TLP| 8.31.12 @ 9:26AM
He was referring to REAL AMERICANS.
People who don't feel the NEED to spend Million$ of Dollars, keeping all of their Pertinent Personal Records, SEALED away in a Steel Vault, on a Volcanic Island in the Middle of the Pacific Ocean.
Relax.
Finish your Coffee.
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 9:34AM
The reason the O'Bama regime will lose the election is because they lie constantly. They're incapable of telling the truth.
The O'Bama regime accused Mitt Romney of killing a steelworker's wife.
The O'Bama regime lied about knowing the steelworker.
The O'Bama regime is trying to GUT the work requirement for welfare, and lying about it.
The O'Bama regime is lying about the $716 BILLION O'BamaCare is STEALING from MediScare Advantage. (The only part of MediScare that could be called somewhat successful.)
The O'Bama regime is lying about the actual unemployment rate. It's really about 12%.
The O'Bama regime LIED when they promised to keep the GM plants in Janesville & Kenosha, WI, open, and then, DID NOT.
The O'Bama regime is LYING about how much they have increased the national debt. They've increased the debt more in just under 4 years ($5 TRILLION) than President Bush did in 8 years. Taking the national debt to $16 TRILLION.
And, if the Foodstamp President is re-elected, it will skyrocket to over $20 TRILLION!
The left's only expertise is in LYING.
MK48| 8.31.12 @ 10:20AM
Nick...........my friend we all know the TRUTH including the the trolls here at TAS.
As the days continue to wind down just like barry and his ilk they will get desperate and say anything.
WE have to keep our focus on what we believe.
Soon all the haters won't have much to say when barry is run out of town on a rail.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 2:19PM
You're re-treading yesterday's trash - you don't have any new talking points from Karl, do ya? Little lame on your game I see ... like the Romney campaign.
You're so worried about the National Debt - do you know what happens under Ryan's plan? Do you give a s***?
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 2:56PM
"Blah, blah, blah, belch!, blah, blah...."
Too bad you can't refute my facts, Burp. Just like you couldn't yesterday, lefty loser!
CJW| 8.31.12 @ 3:31PM
Nick
Purpie/jack cannot refute facts so he says the facts are yesterday's news. He is too stupid to realize that any fact is yesterday's news. In the real world, not Obamaland/ purpland, yesterday's news is known as the record.
Since Obama has a lousy record they Obamdolts do not want to discuss his record.
As for the debt, Obama has added 5 trillion in less than four years. The Obamadolts have no defense so they say Ryan mad add more. Their defense to the facts of 5 trillion debt is to speculate it could be worse with Ryan. They are saying, sure Obama is bad, but Ryan could be worse.
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 6:03PM
Yes, W, Burp is not worth our time.
He is like a mosquito, annoyingly buzzing about our heads. It is best to just swat him.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 6:46PM
Not worth the bother ... it's all non-factual, but you're not worth the time.
I'll just take one - Food Stamps - Food Stamp usage tripled under GW Bush and with the economy he handed Obama, yep, more people went on Food Stamps... not quite what you believe is it?
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 7:22PM
"Food Stamp usage tripled under GW Bush [...]."
No it didn't, Burp.
There is a reason O'Bama is known as the Foodstamp President. He wants people dependent on the government.
Which is why the O'Bama regime is trying to GUT the work requirements from welfare reform.
And, why they are STEALING $716 billion from MediScare Advantage.
And, why they didn't save those GM plants in WI.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 10:05PM
Yes it did. Go look it up yourself - I did.
Foodstamp President is a racist pig comment from Newt Gingrich, that is all.
No gutting welfare work requirements - everyone everywhere has called it the biggest lie of all. Romney is far too comfortable lying all the time.
Romney/Ryan "steals" the same 716 Billion, but doesn't enhance Seniors benefits, Obama does.
The GM plant closed before Obama became President you ditz. December '08. You know who was President then, don't you? Hmmmm?
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 10:32PM
Everybody knows you can't read, Burp.
FACT: The Foodstamp President is trying to GUT the work requirements. Me & George S proved it, yesterday.
FACT: Only the O'Bama regime is STEALING $716 billion from MediScare Advantage. Romney/Ryan will keep MediScare from going bankrupt.
FACT: The GM plant in Janesville DID NOT close in Dec., 'o8. It was announced, in June,'08, that it would stop production in the future. It didn't stop production until April, '09. Guess who was president then, Einstein?
The Foodstamp President lied when he said he would keep it open.
Any more lefty lies you'd like to spew, Burp?
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 10:01AM
I just don't believe that Mitt Romney reciting a speech that was written not by him but by a team of professional speech writers is really where it's at. And you have idiots like Mark Levin drooling all over it. Because we are supposed to blindly allow politicians to lie to us about everything. That's what living in Ameritopia is all about, letting them hold tyranny over our lives. We must always be duped. Thanks Mark, your a great Ameritopian.
TeaPartyNow| 8.31.12 @ 10:05AM
Off of a teleprompter. Mitt Romney is a sick little puppet for the establishment of corrupt republicans in Washington D.C.. But don't worry about that, just let them destroy your country like Mark Levin says, believe everything that the right wing tells you. And don't worry about what it can't say, or that it lies just to make it through every day. And Mitt Romney is going to hell. Sorry to disappoint you, liars like him and Ryan do burn in hell for what they have done to America. God doesn't believe Romney/Ryan.
Paul McGrath| 8.31.12 @ 10:53AM
You're a real downer TPN. Of course, that is your purpose here. Lies and hate. Begone.
Alej| 8.31.12 @ 12:32PM
He just calls a spade a spade.
That's an upper for me.
Houdini| 8.31.12 @ 10:54AM
Wow, the trolls are out in force this morning, must be the anticipation of welfare checks. Blather on all you want about how bad_______________(insert republican) is but it is in vain. this will be my 12th presidential election cycle (of memory) and for the first time since 1980, I had numerous friends and such call me last night to talk about the convention and Romney. Most opined that Marco Rubio is probably the best speaker since RWR. The point is this....thanks trolls, your village idiot president has awakened what Nixon called the silent majority.....a heretofore sleeping giant that will be coming out on Nov. 6th to take back our country from the non-producers, car sh*tters, and such.
Paul McGrath| 8.31.12 @ 10:57AM
The Demon, by Alexander Pushkin:
. . . Sad were our meetings,
his smile, his wondrous glance,
his galling speech,
cold venom poured into my soul,
With inexhastible detraction
he tempted Providence;
he called the beautiful a dream,
held inspiration in contempt,
did not believe in love, in freedom,
looked mockingly on life,
and nothing in all nature
did he desire to bless.
Keep this in mind, my fellow AmSpec readers, when you listen to the likes of TPN, Purp, and Jack London. Demons, all.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 2:22PM
Takes one to know one, now doesn't it? We just play the game better than you all and you don't like it at all.
We're all on an equal playing field here - no billionaire money to squash opposing opinion.
You can't defeat the message, so aim at the messengers. We get it. But - it doesn't work.
JD| 8.31.12 @ 2:34PM
You always know a liberals flaws by what he accuses you of doing. They accuse you of doing exactly what they do.
Petronius| 8.31.12 @ 6:32PM
Beats WORKING doesn't it?
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 6:47PM
I don't know, why don't you tell me how it is on the public dole?
TinaB| 9.1.12 @ 6:30AM
Try " nannie-nannie- doo- doo." that might work better for you, P-dog.
TinaB| 9.1.12 @ 6:32AM
Or, "I know you are but what am I?" That used to work for me in 2nd grade. Try it, P-dog.
Who Knows?| 8.31.12 @ 12:00PM
The ONE true insight that stands out, awakened head and broad shoulders above all the others from the GOP convention---of which there were, gracefully, many—was delivered by Governor Susana Martinez of New Mexico.
Too bad it wasn’t on prime time!
If the Romney camp has any brains, it’ll make an ad with her telling how she “became” a Republican.
The insight---that she and her husband were ALREADY Republicans, and just didn’t know it.
I am plus-perfect positive that this is true for the vast majority of Americans---at least 80%. This is really quite easy to prove.
The daily ACTIONS of each human across the vegetated plains and within, even, the high-density populated cities, are 99.99% LAWFUL. Even criminals don’t break the law, most of the time.
Maybe the arrival of Romney-Ryan on the scene will be the Universe’s reminder, or reflection, of this, and a lot of “ripe” people will come home to their true political party.
Watch the slugs, squirm under the “salt” of truth!
Al Adab| 8.31.12 @ 12:10PM
The level of disappointment over the Romney nomination is clear and few share it more than I. What alternative do you propose? Do we intend to allow America to descend into a long night of statist tyranny in order that The Left receive the historical blame? Do we intend to fight with our last breath for the principles of Liberty, free men and free markets abnd attempt this year to at least roll back the tide of statism? Is this in fact that "Rood Bridge" on which we, like those before us who took their stand, are prepared to say this far and no farther? If not us who and if not now, when?
Jack London| 8.31.12 @ 1:25PM
Easy on the melodrama Al - you'll be digging a bunker next. I guess you won't believe the fact that under Obama we've seen government spending rising at a slower pace than at any time in nearly 60 years. In fact it's a decrease when you account for inflation. So much for your 'statist tyranny'. Where were you when Bush was pushing spending up much higher?
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 1:44PM
More lies from the left, Jack'o.
National debt when George Bush took office: $5.6 Trillion.
When he left: $10.7 Trillion.
National debt now: $15.9 Trillion.
Can you do simple math, Jack'o?
The national debt is now over 100% of GDP.
The Foodstamp President is the equivalent of a housewife who keeps running-up the credit cards.
Jack London| 8.31.12 @ 2:11PM
You can't read - I said spending. The debt is going up because when your hero GW crashed the economy tax receipts went down .
JD| 8.31.12 @ 2:36PM
Jack, that's a flat out lie, and you know it. Your side concocted some baloney numbers recently, suggesting that revenue is way below where it would be if Bush kept Clinton's tax hikes in place. Strange, the revenue projections the CBO produced ten years ago were far lower than your party's "what could have been" projections are today, and that was before they knew about the housing crash!
You also lie in saying GWB is anyone's hero.
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 2:47PM
A distinction without a difference, Jack'o.
And, wrong again. It was the democrats, led by Bwawny Fwank & Chris Dodd, who tanked the economy.
Plus, receipts only dropped $4oo billion from a high in '07 ($2.56T) to the low in '09 ($2.10T). Receipts were $2.3T in '11, and projected to be $2.46T this year.
Spending has increased about $1 trillion a year, in the same time period, from President Bush's pre-collapse high of $2.7T ('07) to the Foodstamp President's current $3.6T ('11).
It is the debt that is continuing the O'Bama regime's Great Recession, Jack'o.
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 2:54PM
Oops! That should be: "Spending has increased about $1 trillion, in the same time period, from President Bush's pre-collapse high of $2.7T ('07) to the Foodstamp President's current $3.6T ('11)."
Al Adab| 8.31.12 @ 1:45PM
Where was I when Bush...? I was opposing the non-military spending and urging him to veto spending by both the GOP and DEM Conbgresses. . Don't forget my friend that Bush 43 and most of the GOP, including Romney, are not Conservatives.
However, I would remind you that the actions which caused the collapse came only after the 2006 reversal in Congress.
Jack London| 8.31.12 @ 2:23PM
"the actions which caused the collapse came only after the 2006 reversal in Congress."
That's complete and utter nonsense Al. The real estate crash was already in train before 2006.
And the most shameful part of Romney's address was when he said the GOP wanted only to cooperate with Obama when he was elected. Instead of course we had instant and continuing obstruction and pledges to make him a one-termer.
if ever any party has deliberately prolonged a recession it's your side.
JD| 8.31.12 @ 2:37PM
Democrats are always quick to say that trouble started before 2008 or 2006, but they always disagree with the suggestion that trouble started before 2000!
Unless they can then take it back to Reagan, but then, never before Reagan!
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 2:22PM
How about turning to the center and forget Left and Right - they are both extreme, now aren't they?
JD| 8.31.12 @ 2:38PM
Given that every plank of the Republican platform today would leave us well to the left of historical norms in tax distribution, size of government, social policy, and virtually every other metric, we ARE the centrists!
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 6:48PM
Uh, JD - did you read what you wrote? With friends like you, Romney doesn't need enemies. hahahaha.
JD| 8.31.12 @ 6:57PM
I am not a strong fan of Romney, and in any case, I responded to your post, not anyone else's.
Kingofthenet| 8.31.12 @ 12:11PM
I wasn't sure Mitt had the use of his arms, until the later part of his speech, and the way Willard walks looks like he is in a lot of pain. Mitt is NOT a good speaker, President Obama AND Clinton will show you how it's done next week.
BTW:Maybe next time Conservatives can nominate Jim Jones Jr. as your cultist standard-bearer, He would at least make a better Punch.
Tom Kyba| 8.31.12 @ 12:34PM
Kingofhisowngroin needs to think for himself once in a while. You are even more useless than the other gutless chicken trolls. Understand? You suck even at being a dink. Luh-who-zuh-her.
Louis Jenkins| 8.31.12 @ 12:41PM
Yes, Obama and Biden, will come out gesturing like a couple of windmills in hurricane Issac. And their verbage will sound like the screaming winds. Yep, they certainly will. And the crowd will swing back and forth like rushes in the wind, being swayed to and fro like empty pods of rice. It will be a great convention.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 6:49PM
As if you'll watch it .... your party is OVER, let the real people take over.
JD| 8.31.12 @ 6:58PM
Simply ludicrous, how backwards he has everything! His "real people" have contributed nothing beneficial to America in its history.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 10:06PM
Except the most historic legislation in American history in the last 50 years.
Of course, your party didn't like FDR or JFK either. No surprise there.
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 10:40PM
President Kennedy CUT taxes, was deeply anti-communist, and was a Cold Warrior, Burp.
The Polio Prince let commie spies run all over the federal government. Dope.
TinaB| 9.1.12 @ 6:35AM
I'll take a leader this time around, thank you, you can keep your "good speaker."
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 12:34PM
Meanwhile, the Joseph Goebbels of our time, Michael Moore, has thrown the Foodstamp President under the bus, when he said, "I think people should start to practice the words ‘President Romney.’"
As a professional liar, Moore must realize that all the lies of the O'Bama regime aren't working.
Like trying to GUT the work requirements in welfare reform, then, denying it. And, promising to keep GM plants open in Janesville & Kenosha, WI, then letting them close!
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 6:52PM
Both of your examples are bald-faced lies, and Ryan knows it and so does Romney. They can't run without lying, it's crystal clear.
On the other hand, with a record as the President, why isn't Obama losing, if everyone believes your crappy carping on Obama?
They don't believe your carping, that's why, because the American people know their President and his accomplishments.
BTW - you didn't read WHY Moore said that statement, did you? You might not like it if you had.
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 7:11PM
"Blah, blah, blah, belch!, blah, blah...."
WRONG!, again, Burp.
They are both true, and you are a lie.
Begone, bug.
Purp| 8.31.12 @ 10:07PM
You're a liar, stupid or just plain evil....
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 10:35PM
I know you are, but what am I?
Hey Burp? Why did 'Goebbels' Moore throw the Foodstamp President under the bus?
John II| 8.31.12 @ 12:56PM
Paul makes an interesting point, with the Pushkin quote. I had something like that in mind when I was reading through this thread, and feeling sort of tired and sick at heart amid what I took to be a relentlessly hollow display of icy cynicism from the trolls.
I am embarrassed to admit my own subliminal acquiescence in the cheap psychologism of our culture, muttering such terms as "sick" and "neurotic" while reading the ghastly posts.
But Paul's post reminds me of a quiet policy adjustment being undertaken by several dozen American Catholic bishops over the past few years, whereby priests deemed appropriate for the unpleasant task are being selected and trained for appointments as diocesan exorcists.
The sheer vagrant imbecility of the posts is a telltale sign of a deeper disorder than the various psychological troubles that are sometimes merely a superficial manifestation of diabolic possession.
And now back to "The Devil & Daniel Webster" (1941), in which Walter Huston plays Mr. Scratch with discomfiting conviction. The Faust-like romantic touch is probably just as well. "The Exorcist" (1973) was a mite too realistic.
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 1:12PM
I agreee, John II.
In fact, last night, after Romney's speech, I told my dad that Timothy Cardinal Dolan needs to take a platoon of exorcists with him to the democrat convention next week.
They could bring super-soakers filled with holy water to squirt the crowds and identify the possessed!
C. Vernon Crisler | 8.31.12 @ 6:24PM
I actually think Cardinal Dolan's prayer was the best speech of the evening.
Nick| 8.31.12 @ 7:34PM
I thought it was pretty good, too.
Thanks, Mr. Crisler.
aware| 8.31.12 @ 1:38PM
Anyone not cynical at this point obviously doesn't know what is going on.
John II| 8.31.12 @ 2:32PM
Actually, no. Anyone cynical at any point is no better than the buzzy optimist, both of whom sin against the virtue of hope.
The word "cynic" comes from a Greek word that means "dog," or more precisely the kind of worthless pampered mutt that divides its time between sleeping and yapping idly at strangers.
Diogenes, call your office.
I probably know quite a bit more than most others about "what is going on," but I also know and endorse the reflections of philosophers like the 19th century Brit Francis Bradley: In the long run, there's no such thing as a lost cause--because there's no such thing as a gained cause. Our defeat and dismay may just be the prelude to our successors' victory--but that victory too will be transitory. The wise man fights for his ideas not in the expectation that they will triumph but in the hope that they will survive.
This is a fallen world. Any soi-disant conservative who believes otherwise belongs on the other side.
And now back to "Babette's Feast" (1987), a fable about hope, adapted from an Isak Dinesen story. It should be enough to point out the real-life miracle that this magnificent flick was a joint French-Danish venture, a flower poking through the asphalt of two of the most corrupted cultures in Europe.
C. Vernon Crisler | 8.31.12 @ 6:27PM
Bradley's theory of history sounds a little like Hegel's thesis, antithesis, and synthesis idea.
John II| 9.1.12 @ 1:33AM
Well, Bradley was among the more prominent exponents of late nineteenth- and early twentieth-century British idealism, which can be described broadly (thought not exclusively) as a revolt against the utilitarian, empiricist, and materialist movements that dominated Brit philosophy for more than a century beforehand.
The idealist movement in Britain is indeed sometimes characterized as "Neo-Hegelian," but Hegel (and other German philosophers) bore rather a stimulative relation to the Brit idealists, few of whom could be regarded as disciples of Hegel, and Bradley himself was an original thinker.
Hegel, for example, evinced great confidence in the power of his dialectical method to reveal the nature of the Absolute; Bradley concluded more modestly (and plausibly) that ultimate reality transcends human thought.
To my knowledge, Bradley never formulated a "theory of history" except to discuss in one of his earlier essays the presuppositions of historiography, such as the uniformity of law and the reality of causal connection.
Anyhow, Bradley is well-nigh infinitely more readable than Hegel, if not as influential. One of the earliest Brit idealists (James Frederick Ferrier) claimed that he couldn't make any sense out of Hegel's philosophy, and he doubted that Hegel himself could either.
Al Adab| 8.31.12 @ 1:50PM
Why do the heathen rage?
Paul McGrath| 8.31.12 @ 2:24PM
Because they're filled with hatred towards the world and towards themselves.
TinaB| 9.1.12 @ 6:44AM
The heathen rage because their father, the Father of Lies, as he is called, is still enraged that he lost the universe in the great battle in Heaven. Before time. His days are numbered, though, and so are those of the Raging Heathens.
Zeppo| 8.31.12 @ 7:29PM
They imagine a vain thing.
cicero| 8.31.12 @ 3:10PM
Romney gets no credit for his speech because it was written by his speechwriters, and read from a teleprompter? I am sure everyone is aware that no president since Lincoln has written their own speeches. They give their ideas, and the points they want emphasized to their speech writers, and then adit andd approve the results. As far as the teleprompter is concerned, it is not a problem, provided the candidate can speak coherently without the use of one, if need be.
The Rubio storey is telling. It is emblamatic of what has transpired in the Republican party over thee past few years. Prior to 2010, the R establishment saw it as their job to back and insure the election of the incumbent (as per Libby Dole). They should have been all about putting forward the best candidate, by staying out of the primaries, and electing the best. The Tea Part (conservative wing of the party) got fed up with the Crists and Spectors of the party, and took matters into their own hands. The rest will be history. The convention was well staged and managed. The Dems will spend all next week screaming vituperation, trying to overcome this week. It should be interesting.
Butch| 9.1.12 @ 5:02PM
Agreed. Probably nobody will see this because it's Saturday, but I was going to answer Al Adab with an answer something similar to your's. The convention went very well, and there will be a stark contrast with the collection of losers, misfits, perverts, and dumb-a*ses the dems will send to the plate: Reid, Pelosi, Shumer, maybe Frank, Fluck, Wasserman-Schultz, Sharpton, Maxine Watters, and Biden.
Then Curious George himself will take the stage. What's he going to talk about? His record? Will he go scornful, heaping it on the ole corporate "raider" and lying about Ryan wanting to push granny off the cliff? Not very presidential. And yes I said Curious George; Clint Eastwood's speech has them so disturbed because it was a knockout punch: it's now OK to ridicule Obama, the absurd cipher who occupies the office.
Kingofthenet| 8.31.12 @ 6:30PM
The President's response:
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Carroll | 8.31.12 @ 11:30PM
Rubio continued: "For those of us who were born and raised in this country, it's easy to forget how special America is. But my grandfather understood how different America is from the rest of the world, because he knew what life was like outside America."
Kingofthenet| 9.2.12 @ 11:15AM
Crazy beliefs is common to ALL religions, what makes Mormonism a cult however is the coercion used to maintain the belief system, the shunning of converts to other religions, the almost blackmail nature of what is supposed to be a gift(Tithe) which they keep track of like Alimony or child support payments.
Mickle | 9.2.12 @ 10:42PM
"As a boy, I would sit on our porch and listen to his stories about history, politics and baseball while he puffed on one of his three daily Padron cigars," Rubio told the thousands of Republican delegates gathered inside the Tampa Bay Times Forum.
Mickle | 9.4.12 @ 3:41AM
If you note that the president often wrote and spoke movingly about the great influence that a particular preacher had on him, and that the preacher is a white-hating, America-bashing radical, then you are a racist.