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Reagan, Kemp, and Mark Levin: Natural Rights and a challenge to moral superiority.
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And so it went.
All of which explains the absolute fury by liberals as one-by-one, everything they insisted would happen — never happened. Reagan didn’t simply prove them wrong, his policies humiliated their policies. Hard core liberals were furious — absolutely furious.
By the time of Reagan’s re-election in November of 1984, interest rates were down more than a full 9 points, from 21.50 to 12%. The unemployment rate had peaked at 9.6% and stood at 7.5%. (By the time Reagan left office in 1989 the unemployment rate was down to 5.5%.) And inflation? By 1984 — Reagan’s re-election year — inflation had dropped like a stone, from 13.58% in 1980 under the liberal Carter’s tax-and-spend policies to 4.30% under Reagan.
Reagan took note of a curious silence, saying with a smile: “They don’t call it Reaganomics anymore.” Which is to say, Reaganomics — once used by liberals like O’Neill and company as an epithet — had become synonymous in the mind of Americans with economic success. So — liberals stopped using the term.
Everything once being said about Ronald Reagan is now being hurled at Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan. The reason for the intensity of it all (Romney murdered a guy’s wife, Ryan wants to push grandma over the cliff) is that in primal recesses of the liberal mind, liberals look at Romney and Ryan as the return of Reaganomics.
The New York Times yesterday predictably branded Paul Ryan as — really — “the most extreme of vice-presidential possibilities.” (Glad to know Sarah Palin is now a moderate in the eyes of the Times. Congratulations Governor Palin. You have officially “evolved.”)
On November 2, 1980, the New York Times made a point of re-endorsing liberal Jimmy Carter by saying — really — that Carter’s liberalism “offers better goods.”
Better goods.
Which is to say, liberals really don’t care if there’s high unemployment (as there is now with Obama’s 8.3%) hurting Americans. Or, in the case of 1980, if liberalism was producing 21.50% interest rates and 13.58% inflation. Liberals, you see, are all about “caring” — even if the liberal version of caring in fact translates to a ruthless un-caring that ruins American lives every single day. The primary concern of liberals has for decades appeared to be all about feeling good about themselves — not helping others.
Which is to say: Reaganomics began the successful dismantling of the failed liberal idea of a government-run command — socialist if you will — economy. An economy that was built not on the original American idea of equal opportunity but rather based on government arranging outcomes. An idea that failed miserably by 1980.
Paul Ryan is the very symbol of Reaganomics.
Or, if you will, he is Reagan’s heir. The return of the left’s worst nightmare — in which all or most of the classes into which they love to divide America voted overwhelmingly for Reagan and against liberalism’s standard bearers Carter, Mondale, and Dukakis. Not to mention launching a Reagan-lite Clinton presidency in a fourth and fifth election in 1992 and 1996. And, when Clinton wasn’t Reaganesque enough in his first two years? The Reagan Revolution still had the clout to launch Newt Gingrich’s Contract With America revolution in 1994 — forcing Clinton back to the center.
Which brings us to Paul Ryan’s mentor (and, full disclosure, my own boss at the Department of Housing and Urban Development):
• Jack Kemp: Jack Kemp, as was noted in this space back in January of 2009, was arguably the most important man in late 20th century American politics who never became president.
Usually that importance is attributed, understandably, to his role as what one might call the Godfather of Reaganomics. It was Kemp who took the arguments of Art Laffer and the Wall Street Journal’s Jude Wanniski, and, using his role as a congressman, persuaded Ronald Reagan into adopting supply-side economics. (Which in fact was not a new idea, having provided the backbone of tax-cut policy for both Republican Calvin Coolidge in the 1920s and Democrat John F. Kennedy in the 1960s.)
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Jeffrey Lord is a former Reagan White House political director and author. He writes from Pennsylvania at jlpa1@aol.com.
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aware| 8.14.12 @ 6:27AM
Well, Jeffy, I think it is a good time to revisit some of your wonderful political "wisdom" from just 4 years ago: http://spectator.org/archives/.....mccain-wil
Embarrassing isn't it? Why anybody would listen to you is a mystery to me. Just give us another article tying a new Batman movie, Limbaugh, and the certainty of another GOP establishment patsy's victory and the irony will be complete.
aware| 8.14.12 @ 6:44AM
My favorite part is the end: "They want Batman. They want Rush.
So they will elect McCain."
Copied with the prominent spaces you love so much(me too, they are the best part of your articles).
DTOM| 8.14.12 @ 8:30AM
Then, aware, why are you here, listening? This is not a rhetorical question. Please, answer, we want to know!
DTOM
chuck| 8.14.12 @ 8:33AM
Because he's a useless troll!
aware| 8.14.12 @ 11:57AM
I'm only pointing out the utter hypocrisy of claiming to be for small government, yet rabidly supporting blatant statists with the clear record to prove it.
That and trying to get some to understand that all criticism of conservatism doesn't come from the Left. If you want "centrist conservatism" fine. I want nothing to do with it.
DTOM| 8.14.12 @ 4:05PM
So the fact that if Romney - never my first, second, or third pick - does not win, Obama does makes no impression on you? Then you must be brain dead.
There is no excuse for staying home this fall - none.
Stay home because Romney/Ryan is not conservative enough for you and you show yourself to an emotionally-challenged, intellectually challenged fool who is obviously not capable of making the balanced judgements that self-governance requires.
DOLT!
aware| 8.14.12 @ 6:01PM
Obama's 1st term has done more than conservatives will ever undo in the slightest. I know it makes you feel like you're fightin' the fight with what you're doing, but mark my words, Romney nor anyone else will ever repeal what Obama has done. Only ugly reality will destroy it, and a lot of other things unfortunately.
You guys haven't even managed to "abolish the Dept. of Education", that recurring election time promise. You did manage to add to it with No Child, which Ryan supported. And you support the supporter.
I don't think Romney wins with or without my vote. I think you underestimate the effect of handouts from the State, overwhelming favoritism of the propaganda arms, and, most importantly, the sheer stupidity of the average voter. And of course don't forget blatant fraud, which probably made the difference in '08.
TeaPartyNow| 8.14.12 @ 4:31PM
Do you love it the way the right invariably threatens you if you are against romney? With obama, always with obama. But if the right wanted to win in 2012, they should have picked someone who was actually better than obama. Sorry right you picked a loser. Deal with it.
Dr. B| 8.14.12 @ 5:39PM
Why do liberals pretend to be disgruntled conservatives with names like Teapartynow, when it is very obvious they are just trolls without a coherent argument? So just for giggles, tell us TPN, who would you have picked?
CJW| 8.14.12 @ 8:12PM
Because he is a useless troll, like the others, with no life who wants to criticize us and help obama, and has nothing to contribute except the same daily negative drivel.
Jacob McCandles| 8.14.12 @ 10:29AM
Wow! Someone made a bold prediction about an election and it turned to be wrong. You really got him there "aware".
aware| 8.14.12 @ 11:58AM
Well, pilgrim, a man ought to do what he feels is right.
TeaPartyNow| 8.14.12 @ 4:37PM
All power to you baby. You might like to know though, behind romney the most this year is Levin. Levin is actually stupid enough to think that he is so smart that the American People will elect romney just on his word. It is going to prove fatal to his credibility, and his America that he formerly wanted returned.
We don't think more of romney, real conservatives only now think much less of Levin. Personally, I think that Mark Levin has lost his mind. But romney could have paid him too. Who knows, the right is so far gone this year.
Many conservatives get treated like caca on this site sir. The right is worse than the left this year. No composure, no intelligence, just flat out worship of two guys that they don't even know. Keep the faith.
Dr. B| 8.14.12 @ 5:43PM
Sir, how does a silly troll like you know anything about real conservatives?
Jack in Wi| 8.14.12 @ 6:47AM
I agree aware. This is pablum for the boobs. The country is in far worse shape then in 1980. The country is bankrupt and Romney and Ryan are proposing putting a bandaide on a major wound. We need a far more radical program. We need to slash Federal spending in a major way. That can't be done while we are wasting trilllions all over the world on a failed foreign policy. Ryan's plan continues to fund the Military Industrial complex, to even higher levels. The ticket, at this time, is still sounding like Bush and Cheney on foreign policy. This will never sell to the libertarians, young people, women, and independents the ticket needs to win. This ticket has to look a lot more like like a dove then a hawk.
Nobody wants another war. Ronald Reagan wasn't afraid to talk to people. He went to China and the Soviet Union. Nixon went to China and toasted the greatest mass murderer in history. It is time to do with Iran Nixon did with China, send and ambassador, open diplomatic relations, end immoral sanctions and let's trade openly with them. The price of oil would collapse and the world would be a far better place. It is time American foreign policy was made in the USA, not Tel Aviv.
Jack of Spades| 8.14.12 @ 8:16AM
Is this the same Ronald Reagan who presided over a massive buildup of the military, reversing the deconstruction of the Carter administration? The same Ronald Reagan who was derided as a "cowboy" whose reckless saber-rattling would get us into World War III? Who pushed for missile defense, the Strategic Defense Initiative, which was derided as "Star Wars" by liberal critics whose faith was in disarmament through negotiation with the Soviets?
You're either that ignorant of history or you think the rest of us are. Reagan wasn't afraid to talk to the Soviets, but he also said "trust but verify." And he made sure to carry Teddy Roosevelt's big stick with him.
DTOM| 8.14.12 @ 9:35AM
Spades, 'in Wisconsin' is addled.
Plain and simple. He fancies himself a great supporter of Reagan, yet disagrees with the Gipper 80% of the time. Then cheddar Jack recalls Reagan's rule that people you agree with 80% of the time are your allies-and cheddarJack confuses 80% disagreement with 80% agreement and figures himself to be a staunch Reaganite - so long as he can re-write what Reagan stood for.
oh, JiW, Reagan was a fierce supporter of a very strong military and a fierce supporter of Israel, economically and militarily. In case you forgot!
Don't Tread On ME, dammit!
Oldefarte| 8.14.12 @ 12:58PM
"Why anybody would listen to you" ? The answer is that THEY ARE LISTENING to 'Jeffy' and NOT TO UN-AWARES such as yourself is that [unlime 'Jeffy'] you speak """""STUPIDLY""""" like all radical do [especially your serially radicalized leaders of the left]. Want a tie-in, DA? Try this: the new Batman movie is a S-T-U-P-I-D as usual piece of filth/garbage that appeals to derelict-imbiciles without two braincells in their craniam which influences/causes demented psycopaths to kill numerous people because this garbage has the capacity to unduly influence sick/perverted/insane minds to do such=that normal individuals are so disgusted with the filth/trash of this radicalism/liberalism in their lives that sooner or later they will pick up their pitchforks and physically remove these elements from society permanently [and hopefully that process will begin 11/6/12]. Why don't you do us all a big favor by removing your un-aware self from this site and instead go either blog on the NYT's or [more preferably] go sit in a wheelchair and allow THE BLACK JESUSES to do as has been fabricated on their TV commericals??????
aware| 8.14.12 @ 7:28PM
You're even more incoherent than usual, gramps. Meds a little off?
speakingthetruth| 8.14.12 @ 4:44PM
Paul Ryan? The disciple of atheist Ayn Rand?
Jesus would weep.
snap 'n' flap| 8.14.12 @ 5:17PM
Attention Christian Readers:
You cannot in good conscience vote for Romney/Ryan.
ABC News has researched Ryan's endorsement of Ayn Rand's atheistic political beliefs, and has quoted Ryan extensively on his approval of Rand's philosophy.
Spread the word!
Dr. B| 8.14.12 @ 5:48PM
Yes let's reelect the guy who has only read three books in his whole life - the communist manifesto, rules for radicals, and the Koran.
Idiots.
Evelina| 8.14.12 @ 6:11PM
The few people I have known who were fans of Ayn Rand were self-absorbed, selfish materialists, without a shred of empathy for anyone.
If Ryan is anything like the typical Ayn Rand devotee, God help this nation. He'll pamper the rich and sock it to the poor and middle-class. That's for sure!
Evelina| 8.14.12 @ 6:13PM
I am a Republican, but for the first time in my life I will vote the Democratic ticket.
I prefer Obama anyday to Romney/Ryan. These two extremists frighten me.
Dr. B| 8.14.12 @ 6:21PM
Like many of the trolls on conservative sites, you like to pretend you are a conservative, and that you prefer Obama anyway. I'm betting you have never voted anything but straight (D) your whole life. Which makes you a liar.
CJW| 8.14.12 @ 8:14PM
If Evelina is a Republican then I am an obama democrat.
Evelina| 8.14.12 @ 8:47PM
I am a traditional Republican, but the Republican party has changed dramatically over the past few years.
Right-wing "Christians"--ignorant and angry-- have taken over the party, and I do not adhere to their primitive, reactionery beliefs--religious or political.
And I am one of many who will desert the Republican candidates this year because we want more moderate contenders who stand a chance of winning the election.
Jack in Wi| 8.14.12 @ 6:31AM
Look: I like Paul Ryan. He is my neighboring congressman. I believe he is an attractive and intelligent man. But as the old saw goes, I met Ronald Reagan and Paul has a long way to go to come close to Ronald Reagan. His whole career has been spent in Congress. Most of that time he was a firm supporter of the disastrous foreign and domestic policies of GW Bush and he crazed Vice President, Mad Dog Cheney. If Romney and Ryan can't get away from theose policies and show the country something a lot better, they will never be elected.
I also met and supported Jack Kemp. He turned out to be a major disappointment as a candidate and has HUD secretary. Jack was a great guy as well. The author above seems to think that Reagan's program of 32 years ago is the way to go. Lower taxes and cutting spending is a good idea but I think far more is necessary.
aware| 8.14.12 @ 6:37AM
Jack, I advise you to look closer into what Ryan has voted for and much closer at his "plan". He is an establishment foot soldier all the way. If he wasn't he wouldn't be Mitt's boy. I don't like anybody that supports growing the State. Period.
Jack in Wi| 8.14.12 @ 6:52AM
I agre with you aware. But I think he is intelligent and educable. the ticket has to do a lot better job then Romney has done so far to win. That means sounding a lot more like Ron Paul then GW. Bush. It is time to get out tof the Bushes. I expect Romney to make a lot more moves to the libertarian right and in a real way. If he does not he won't win.
Boar Hunter| 8.14.12 @ 7:10AM
Thankfully you are old and, like your wife, maybe you will leave soon.
chuck| 8.14.12 @ 8:23AM
I've been trying to get Jackass to improve his outlook by eating a bullet.
CrackerHound| 8.14.12 @ 10:54AM
Boar Hunter and Chuck:
You guys are horrible for saying things like that.
chuck| 8.14.12 @ 11:16AM
Probably, but a bullet for breakfast would surely improve Jack's outlook, and everybody's else.
Truth hurts.
loulou| 8.14.12 @ 11:47AM
But it needed to be said.
aware| 8.14.12 @ 12:01PM
"Conservatives" now think the dissenters deserve a bullet. Now there is virtually no difference between the Trotskyite neo cons and the supposed enemies, the Progressives. Pathetic.
JD| 8.14.12 @ 12:17PM
I think you read a bit much into a single rhetorical flourish.
aware| 8.14.12 @ 5:39PM
Maybe, I hope so. Don't underestimate Trotskyites.
chuck| 8.14.12 @ 6:50PM
No, I think Jackass should munch on a bullet because he is a vicious anti-Semitic POS.
aware| 8.14.12 @ 7:31PM
Can I read too much into two rhetorical flourishes, JD?
chuck| 8.14.12 @ 10:00PM
Check out some of Jackass's fine contributions on the thread about the Israelis. I've been here for a long time, and Jackass is a vile, disgusting anti-Semitic bastard. Trust me, I'm being kind when I say he needs to just end it like his hero, Der Fuhrer!
DTOM| 8.14.12 @ 8:46AM
Jack;
You no more followed Reagan with admiration than you are not a secret admirer of Obama and his reckless, disdainful disregard for the oath he swore on the Bible he has never read.
You say you knew Kemp. Did you work for him? Or did you meet him at a campaign event? Did Jack Kemp know you? I'd bet not from Adam.
So now you parrot Lloyd Bensten's practiced quip against a man who has the heart and wisdom that were Reagan's hallmarks. Note the difference JackO - PAul Ryan is being compared to Reagan - he has not compared himself to Reagan. So your put down is gratutitous, it is not meant to be helpful or illuminate. Your only purpose like most plagiarists is to self-inflate. Which you do quite well.
Stop claiming Reagan as your mentor-you argue against a strong defense and engagement in the world. Reagan would have laughed at your Chamberlain's chambermaid timidity.
Reagan lead us to a strong defense based on a strong military. He knew that if you want peace, you must prepare for war!
You, jack, are a sniveling little appeaser - your favorite notion is to run and hide.
You are no friend of Ronald Reagan!
You are no friend of Jack Kemp!
You are a pretender, a phoney, a charlatan, and damage the memory of those men leading their country to greatness.
Be gone, worm!
Don't Tread On Me!
Dr. B| 8.14.12 @ 5:52PM
Amen DTOM!
But the trolls just can't help themselves...
pogybait| 8.14.12 @ 8:50AM
Even with Romney and Ryan, Obama and all those well meaning activists and politicians who are promoting socialist reforms and nationalization of resources, in reality have a willing conga line of helpers, who otherwise couldn't care less about socialist reforms, find this system very useful in maintaining power and keeping populations in economic serfdom via high taxes. This has to be more of an ideological fight first.
DTOM| 8.14.12 @ 9:30AM
Pogy;
Well meaning?
They are NOT well meaning! They are the "Where's mine?" group! Don't you believe them for a single second that they are going to help anyone but themselves. Need evidence? I offer the city of Detroit, the states of Illinois and California for my first three exhibits.
The only 'well-meaning' on the left are the hopelessly confused and confounded who have been hornswaggled by the serious socialists.
When you think about it, 'well-meaning' is actually a symptom of confused and confounded, hornswaggled thinking, isn't it?
Cause 'well-meaning' never, ever delivers on its intentions, ever!
If you think of yourself as 'well-meaning,' it's time for some serious self-reflection, people.
THKrupp| 8.14.12 @ 12:42PM
The state of the State of Illinois is the fault of both the right and the left. Illinois has had only one decent Governor in the span of my lifetime. Of course that was the only Gov that isnt serving prison time. Republicans can spend just as well as Democrats.
irish19| 8.14.12 @ 1:04PM
Edgar or Thompson? My personal favorite was Edgar, aka Governor No.
Boar Hunter| 8.14.12 @ 11:07AM
To bring up an old issue that is still relevant.
Those in the flea and locust class, like Purp, who think Obama has their best interest in mind, need look no further than Obama's own brother's and sisters.
His sister sells coal and his brother still lives in a Nairobi slum drinking chemicals to help him forget he has a brother.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:57AM
Wow - I really get to you, don't I?
I think he has HIS best interest at heart, but is concerned for others not as fortunate. His policies show it.
No one on the Republican side cares for anyone BUT themselves - their policies show it.
George True| 8.14.12 @ 12:02PM
Troll alert!
JD| 8.14.12 @ 12:18PM
The small-minded judge the motives of others by judging their ideas against a perspective they're known to not have.
Tom Kyba| 8.14.12 @ 1:30PM
And getting to people is pretty much your life's mission and dream isn't it?
PolishKnight| 8.14.12 @ 2:13PM
Purp, as I said to a leftist I was debating with the other day: I might be able to care about someone other than myself if the supposedly caring leftists such as himself weren't trying to toss guys such as me under the bus to further their agenda.
We all can see how great you are at bashing white trailer park residents but when are you going to get around towards REALLY going after the "rich" (you know, Soros, Spielberg, etc.?) Or are you just posturing? (Rhetorical question: We both know the answer) and not only us, but most of the working class whites that Obama pretends to care about with a picture of him sitting at a supper table with all whites saying he cares about the "middle class". Hahahah!!! That photo looked more staged than his bowling game!
Tell you what though: I actually found myself LIKING Hillary Clinton watching her chuck down a beer and polish kielbalsa in Northeast Pennsylvania. Even if she was faking it, she at least did a good job of it unlike Obama hanging around with rich white guys golfing at Martha's Vineyard.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 10:51PM
Yeah, I do want ALL the rich to pay more to balance the budget and not to cut programs for the least among us - elderly, children, disabled, blind, unemployed, the suffering.
I can take it. I have it to give and it sounds like you do too. So do those you mentioned. What's the deal with protecting the rich? We don't need protection - we are financially secure. Unless we're like the Koch Bros that just want more and more. Is that you? I hope not.
I like Hillary too, and hope she runs in 2016, but I'm not sure she'd want to.
As far as your racial comments, I don't care about that - Obama is the President, he's going to win and his race doesn't matter. His policies help the needy and the dreamers... Romney/Ryan only want to help and protect the wealthy - NO THANKS. Interesting factoid I found today - Congressman Ryan thanked President Obama and the Recovery Act for stimulus to his district that CREATED JOBS!!!
Now isn't that interesting? Government Stimulus CREATES JOBS!!! - Paul Ryan, 2009 in a letter to Energy Secretary Chu.
Dr. B| 8.14.12 @ 5:57PM
Great argument twurp. You must have been the debate team champ!
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 10:51PM
Naw, these people are lightweights. They argue belief, not facts.
CJW| 8.14.12 @ 8:17PM
Purpie, you do not get to anybody. You have become an Icon, as symbol for everything about the lefty totalitarian, obama loving idiocy. We even use is as an adjective, such as purpland , or purpworld. Instead of describing the entire obama administration wreck, we can say "purp-likle."
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 10:55PM
Interestingly, I don't believe in Totalitarianism - like sticking a vaginal probe in a woman against her will and making her pay for it - Virginia House and Senate Bills against abortion. Now that's Totalitarian!
I'm quite pleased and flattered by your description of my support of Obama's policies. It's the New New Deal and you all can't stand it any better than you did the first New Deal. I get that. But you haven't a chance in changing it with Mitt the Twit and Paul "Medicare Killer" Ryan.
You see, I don't have to attack you, I have someone I can support. You don't.
PolishKnight| 8.15.12 @ 10:47AM
Purp slips without knowing it:
"Yeah, I do want ALL the rich to pay more to balance the budget and not to cut programs for the least among us - elderly, children, disabled, blind, unemployed, the suffering."
Purp, what happened to the "middle class?" I don't see ANYTHING about Obama caring about the groups above in the ads perhaps because you guys have not only alienated the (literally) working class proletariat, but also the bourgeoisie as well!
Whenever a leftist gripes about losing white non-college degreed white males by the truckload, I observe that they could just stop discriminating against white males in universities to solve the problem and they quickly change the subject. It's rather hard to appeal to an electorate when you're so busy tossing them under the bus!
Regarding the "suffering". Indeed, the welfare state is all about suffering and when you haven't produced enough via the welfare state, you import them. If you love them so much, live with them! Don't take a limo to stay in the conservative suburbs!!!
TeaPartyNow| 8.14.12 @ 4:43PM
Here is your choice, and the American Peoples choice in 2012, marxist nanny state (obama) or marxist nanny state with rich parasites feeding off of its poor. Romney and ryan will do about like boehner did, but they gotta pay back Mitts financiers. And besides, vulture capitalism is the only game Mitt Romney knows how to play at all.
Ryan doesn't have a record that anyone on the right can talk about out loud. Nothing in all of the right wing media has said anything about ryans record. Put nanny state supporter in the place where the silence is, and there is your republican ticket this year.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 10:57PM
Have you notices Fox News reporters, even Rush Limbaugh tongue tied and squirming to try and explain Romney/Ryan now? It's hilarious - Buyers Remorse over Ryan?
Oldefarte| 8.14.12 @ 1:02PM
"growing the State" What a crock of excrement. Diid the BJ's teach you to lie like that?????
TeaPartyNow| 8.14.12 @ 4:47PM
You don't get away from the right wing sites much, do ya old man? Did you see what John Boehner did with his republican majority house? Absolutely nothing old man. Face it, romney/ryan is everything that is wrong with the right, served up by right wing media with gravy. The right wing medias are sheer opinion guy. They didn't vet romney, and they will not vet ryan. Stop drinking the rights kool-aid, that stuff will kill ya you know.
Dr. B| 8.14.12 @ 6:01PM
Hey, just for fun, can you tell us why we should vote for B.O. , instead of why we shouldn't vote for Romney/Ryan? And without lying?
Didn't think so.
TeaPartyNow| 8.14.12 @ 8:48PM
I voted for McCain. But I did because I thought that the right was better than the left. I don't think that anymore. Now, why don't you tell me all about the policy records of romney/ryan, since you are fully informed right winger. And where did you get them? I have been all over the right wing blogs, no one mentions romney/ryan policy and voting records because they are ashamed to tell the truth. So, but go ahead and tell me all about these men that you hold such convictions for. And don't go negative and tell me how bad the left is, that is all that the whole of the right does. Go ahead, informed American defender of freedom, tell me all that you know, and where you found it.
You are clueless. You won't answer because you are clueless. The right wing is running solely on conjecture and hate. About 85-90% hate out of the right. Because romney/ryan can't run on their records. They are rich D.C. corrupt elites. But you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the obama.
America is too far gone to survive now buddy. With guys like you who fallow whatever lie you are told to, this nation isn't going to make it.
Appleby| 8.14.12 @ 6:51AM
And of course there's the fact that Ryan is One Of Us. Just like Reagan was -- he holds views that are like ours and he has grown up in a family like ours; he speaks to us as one of us, just as Reagan did. He's married to his original wife and doesn't use phrases like "I don't want my daughters punished with a baby"; and he understands and can explain in ordinary language just what he believes. Nobody yet has asked if Paul Ryan was at Chick-fil-A on August 1st; we know Romney not only wasn't there, but shrank from being identified with the whole idea behind it. And Ryan can look the Liberals in the eye with an all American grin and talk them down to their knees. Liberals jeer at guys like Ryan, because the rest of us want our kids to grow up to be them. Ryan is one of us.
DTOM| 8.14.12 @ 8:32AM
Are you trying to say he's Canadian? He's not. I've been to Janesville and I've been to Canada - they are NOT the same.
DTOM
MK48| 8.14.12 @ 10:45AM
DTOM......applebag needs her meds changed....jack is standing next to her with a towel to catch her drool.
What !!!!! now Mitt has a catholic as a running mate.....now he's OK.
CrackerHound| 8.14.12 @ 11:19AM
I agree Appleby...while no one is perfect, Ryan seems pretty unassailable from either the left or right. He's definitely not a RINO but can't legitimately be called extreme.
Just look at how at how foolish people like wasserman-shultz look trying to paint Ryan as some sort of extremist.
I'm still worried that Obama will be re-elected but I like our shot better now. I actually wish the roles were reversed with Ryan at the top of the ticket.
TeaPartyNow| 8.14.12 @ 4:51PM
I bet that you are absolutely clueless as to what romney and ryans records are. Wonder why we are here? Because both sides are deeply corrupt. The right wing media lies and hates more than the left this year. Know why you don't know the records? Because the right knows these two are bad. But they wan't their guy to win, so whalah, on with the hate and lies all of the way through the right wing media.
Get a grip, and look for the truth some day.
Dr. B| 8.14.12 @ 6:05PM
And of course, since both sides suck, we should reelect Obama. Great argument; think it'll fly?
Boar Hunter| 8.14.12 @ 7:00AM
A most wonderful and effectual read sir!
I believe "Romney's people" had an epiphany concerning his loss to Obama and correctly identified Ryan as the only viable path to their success in the next election.
I read a few weeks back where polling data revealed that as many as 25% of conservatives were refusing to vote for Romney.
Although I still consider my vote in California to be no more than a symbolic gesture, I will vote for the romney, RYAN ticket.
Unlike romney, RYAN seems to be a man who is actually in possession of characteristics like honor, and not only intelligent enough, RYAN possesses the strength of character to articulate a defense of the core beliefs he shares with many Americans.
As was the case with Palin in her home state (over 80% approval from both parties) Ryan is respected by both parties in his liberal State. However, once again unlike romney, RYAN has not compromised his core values to obtain their support. RYAN has stood up and defended his beliefs and by extension, those of the people he represents.
CrackerHound| 8.14.12 @ 2:48PM
You might be on to something. This is the second presidential election in a row where a less than conservative candidate had to pick a solid conservative as a running mate just to get the Republican base to vote for them.
You would think they'd get the hint a put a conservative in the first place....and let the media gasp in horror (which is what they are really afraid of)
Anthony| 8.14.12 @ 7:46AM
Oh my the trolls are up early today. Aware is sensing playtime for the American left is about over.
And poor Jack, still afraid that Romney and Ryan have a foreign policy straight from Tel Aviv.
You keep wringing your hands Jack, pretending to look for the perfect conservative, hoping not to find him/her so Obozo can finish off America. Maybe Obozo will allow you and your fellow jackbooters to help bury Israel when he, the Muslim brotherhood, and Iran form their Caliphate over Jerusalem.
Reagan would have allowed this, right Jack? And Jack, the price of oil will fall once the radical enviro-Nazis are finally put to work in the Alaskan oil fields doing jobs Americans are desperate to do!!!
But do keep an eye out for those Jews Jack, they'll sneek up on you when you least expect them.
aware| 8.14.12 @ 11:25AM
If only it was the end of the Left's playtime, Bub. That would make me quite happy except for the statists that pass themselves as Republicans, that is.
Oldefarte| 8.14.12 @ 1:03PM
Okay name your preferred politicians who are not "statists"?????????????????????????????
aware| 8.15.12 @ 6:18AM
The dead ones. The still breathing ones are all statists. Next time you are at a political rally for one of the breathing ones just wear a sign that says "kick me".
TeaPartyNow| 8.14.12 @ 4:58PM
It's all too far gone to hope for truth in America, you know that don't you? The right wing medias are slobbering all over romney/ryan with opinion. Zero facts, and there are no shortage of zombies on the right who don't think that things like the truth and facts matter anymore. This nation has to die completely before it can rise above its media.
You want to know why we have zero freedom? Because the work that the American People do to get and/or keep freedom amounts to zero. People listen to media, watch commercials, and vote completely in the dark. That is America. By the time anyone wakes up, America will be already gone. But keep talking though. We gotta do something. And look at it this way, we'll be in the few smart enough to see that both parties are wasted today.
Dr. B| 8.14.12 @ 6:10PM
Therefore, everyone must vote for Obama - right?
You should read your own posts "Zero facts, and there are no shortage of zombies on the right who don't think that things like the truth and facts matter anymore." OK, give us the truth and facts!
I'm betting you have absolutely no clue.
CJW| 8.14.12 @ 8:20PM
Tea Party is just another name used by the troll(s) masquerading as a tea party conservative to make it appear conservatives are all against Romney/Ryan. Another sign of desperation by the obamaboys.
TeaPartyNow| 8.14.12 @ 8:53PM
Freedom is work. The American People do not do the work that it takes to get and/or keep freedom. Would a liberal even know that? What is a marxist nanny state culture, and why are we dying from it. Would a liberal know that. You sissy punk bellied freaks that are glorifying the disintegration of the right into a graveling idiot are all that is left. The consevatives hate romney/ryan. We are real. And we hate you pathetic wanna be's too.
Drunken Sailor| 8.14.12 @ 11:44AM
you'r not far off the mark Anthony. Aware likes to parrot Libertarian. He think everyone else is to the left of conservatives.
aware| 8.14.12 @ 12:03PM
Try that again with maybe a couple less drinks so I can understand what you're trying to say.
Drunken Sailor| 8.14.12 @ 12:23PM
Perhaps you should try a few and read it again. You believe unless your a far right libertarian your not conservative.
Oldefarte| 8.14.12 @ 1:05PM
What pols do you prefer....name them???????
Tom Kyba| 8.14.12 @ 1:36PM
Oldefarte, I guess you and drunken sailor have asked too tough a question for aware. I was awaiting a response to your queries as well. Surprise surprise utter silence.
aware| 8.14.12 @ 7:54PM
Olddingleberry, how many times do I have to tell you, ALL politicians are a career criminal class of parasites that run a criminal conspiracy you naively believe is "government".
I support NONE of them and I'm not here to give "solutions" for us being f*c*ed 8 ways from Sunday. It's TOO LATE! About 25 or 30 years too late. If "elections" were in any danger of actually changing any of this it would be a terrorist act to vote.
Ever notice in that ancient life you're always bragging about that no matter who wins the grip tightens? Ever wonder why that is?
Asking which politician I prefer is like asking what kind of mafia I prefer(my sincere apologies to honest hoodlums and gangsters who at least don't pretend to be what they plainly aren't).
TeaPartyNow| 8.14.12 @ 5:01PM
Drunken Sailor doesn't know that we aren't his drinking buddies, and we won't agree with him when he is wasted and making no sense. Don't worry about it, he won't remember anything anyway. He is sober for like 15 minutes a day I bet.
Drunken Sailor| 8.15.12 @ 8:52AM
Ahh but at least I sober up. You and aware are drunk on the liquor of doomsday prophecies. There is no hope for you, Ron Paul is done.
Joellen| 8.14.12 @ 7:49AM
The Intolerant Left hated Reagan, hate GOD, Ryan, Palin, the Tea Party, the Constitution, etc. The intolerant left has Hollywood, the majority of the media, the schools, and even have infatrated the churches/synagogues. etc. When the America people can fully grasp this and truly understand the battle we are in, the war will be fought and thus won. As George W. Bush once said, it will be a "long ardous war". We can never relent, it is the battle between good and evil.
Cobalt| 8.14.12 @ 8:20AM
"A nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God hasgiven them cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins."
-- Benjamin Franklin
The Left doesn't want Ryan to educate the voters, nor does the Left want Obama to discuss his ideology, or stand on his record.
Just 84 more days of smoke and mirrors, and then the Left hopes the dumb, stupid American voters will reelect Obama.
loulou| 8.14.12 @ 11:49AM
The Lefties are like Muslims: They are in it for the long haul and are very patient.
Seek| 8.15.12 @ 5:09PM
People like you embody why we can't seem to energize anyone except "the base."
oldeham| 8.14.12 @ 7:59AM
There is a lot more going on than when President Reagan was elected.
1. People at talking (shouting) AT each other, not with each other.
2. The so-called 'silent majority', who for the most part, just want to be left alone, can gather in large numbers on less than a days notice. Specifically Chic-A-Filet.
3. An Obama fund raiser cannot even fill a hall with advance notice.
4. The progressive/liberal left have taken the posture of rude, crude, profane, race and class bating, my way or the highway attitude that is turning off a whole lot of fence sitters. The progressive/left seems to have adopted a strategy of 'how low can we go?”
5. The Federal (and many state) Government has been become overbearing and in your face using 9-11 has an excuse to spy on citizens looking for 'domestic' terrorists.
6. When the Executive can pretty much do whatever they want by Departmental regulation and Executive Order then Congress (both houses) have abandoned any pretense of being the prime mover for the Federal Government.
7. Obama does not have the intelligence to have put this together – he is just a front person who got there because of the colour of his skin. Just listen to him talk without a teleprompter or his ear piece to coach him – he cannot put together two sentences with any coherent meaning.
This election is just as important to the future direction of the USA as the election of 1860.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 8:14AM
Funny, but what you list were put in place by the REPUBLICANS, including the economy and the Bush Tax Cuts, and you think America has forgotten? Ryan has just reminded a whole lotta people how the Ayn Rand philosophy Romney/Ryan subscribe to throws all but the most successful over the cliff.
chuck| 8.14.12 @ 8:30AM
Yep, the Reagan years were just horrible when compared to the bliss of the Carter years. How could the American people be so stupid as too elect that silly, old, Alzheimer-suffering fool over such a nice, caring peanut farmer who was doing such a wonderful job running this country? And then to reelect him 4 years later?
BTW, for those who do not understand sarcasm, THIS IS IT!
DTOM| 8.14.12 @ 9:12AM
Chuck;
Remember how often Reagan complained about the mess Jimmy Carter left him?
Oh yeah, now I remember, not once!
DTOM| 8.14.12 @ 9:18AM
This Ayn Rand talking point is actually kind of funny. They must think that'll make America forget all the damage Obama has inflicted on our country.
They said they had all kinds of "opposition research' on all of the candidates. Obviously they are still relying on high school librarians outing the reading habits of their charges. Do they still have libraries in high schools? (Probably - but the libraries do not buy books any more - just carrels with real tall walls so you can go to the moveoff.org site without embarrassment!)
Although I pity the fool doing opposition research on Ryan and Romney.
DTOM
DTOM| 8.14.12 @ 9:21AM
We are two weeks from Larry Flynt waking up and offering ten million dollars to anybody who can come up with real dirt on our Mormon and Eagle Scout...
It'd be easier to come up with video and audio of Tea Partiers being rude to Congressional Black Caucus members in front of Congress...which Brietbart couldn't even buy!
MK48| 8.14.12 @ 10:49AM
I have a video of barry and rohm walking into a gay bath house.....any takers.
chuck| 8.14.12 @ 11:20AM
MK48,
You MF'er! I may never get that mental picture erased for my mind.
Goldwater Girl| 8.14.12 @ 10:15AM
next, they will accuse Ryan of nefariously arranging the early demise of his father, just to enhance his political resume. Poor Paul, he had to pick up the slack in the family when his father died. This administration will stop at nothing to keep the boy king in the WH. Why is it not possible to have an adult conversation with Dem's about the fiscal solvency of the US?
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 12:01PM
Yeah, poor little rich kid, Paul Ryan, huh?
You want fiscal solvency? Then start talking spending cuts AND revenue raising. Until then, all you're saying is "My way or the highway".
JD| 8.14.12 @ 12:20PM
You are the one who says "my way or the highway". The only "spending cuts" your side proposes are in the military, which you hate.
As for us, we make the argument for good ideas, not good ideas mixed with bad ideas. Besides, even if we froze taxes forever at present rates, we'd still be left of all prior US history. You offer false compromise.
Oldefarte| 8.14.12 @ 1:08PM
Name your preferred pols!!!!!!!!!
Oldefarte| 8.14.12 @ 1:13PM
"rich kid" ? Just because his mommie wasn't a slut/whore and he actually knew who his daddy was, you term him "rich"??????????
CrackerHound| 8.14.12 @ 5:50PM
The ONLY reason Obama and crew want to raise taxes on the rich is to destroy the Tea Party or turn them against Republicans. Obama knows (and so should you) that raising taxes on the rich will do absolutely nothing to solve the defecit/budget shortfalls.
You see government in action...totally inept...and you want to give them more money?
Dr. B| 8.14.12 @ 6:17PM
Liberals like you think increased taxation and increased revenues are synonamous.
Since you seem to have had little schooling in your cute little liberal life, you wouldn't know this.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 10:59PM
Reagan wasn't handed the Great Depression II. He had a recession to handle. No biggie. He didn't do it anyway - Fed Chairman Paul Volcker did.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:59AM
Romney is NO Reagan. I voted for Reagan myself, twice - but he is dead and buried just like FDR. So you had one, just like we did. You're done now. Back to Mitt the Twit.
JD| 8.14.12 @ 12:19PM
He is closer than Obama is.
Oldefarte| 8.14.12 @ 1:15PM
No we had a bunch of whats know as NORMALS, as opposed to the RADICALS that you always have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:00PM
Hahahaha - Enjoy watching Romney and Ryan backtrack on everything Ryan stands for. It's already started. Romney is still Mitt the Twit, and screwed this up too.
PolishKnight| 8.14.12 @ 2:17PM
Purp, the left loves to try to play games such as classifying themselves as against "extremists" (by definition, those to the right of them are extremists) or for the "middle class" (government union employees, everyone else including those who are in the same economic level as aforementioned are loser trailer park trash), etc. but one of the funniest is the pretend Reagan supporter who claims that he supported "moderate" Reagan back in the 80's but now saw the light and realizes that only through leftism can moderation be found again.
I call BS. The Democrats who voted for Reagan were union workers and non-leftist old-style workers' rights advocates, not hard core go-down-with-the-ship leftists which you clearly are. But nice try. Keep it up. Remember: 4 dollar gasoline!
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:05PM
Yeah, Reagan twice, Papa Bush I voted for. But after the Newt Gingrich scorched earth policies came into play, they pushed me left of center. To you, I'm far left - but that's only because you are so far right. But believe what you want - I don't care.
Remember Romney/Ryan = End of Medicare. End of Social Security. End of College. End of Dreamers. End of Women's Reproductive Rights. End of the Middle Class. But 4.7 Trillion dollars more for the Rich so they "trickle down on us" ... more like "tinkle on us". We've seen that doesn't work. NO THANKS.
Butch| 8.14.12 @ 7:51PM
"I voted for Reagan myself, twice"--sure you did. You're 25 years old, majored in math dodging in college, living in your Mom's basement, and doing this for Media Matters for ten bucks an hour. You can't get a real job because you have no skills worth money; all you learned in college was how to sling liberal BS like your poly sci, sociology, or grievance studies professors. How do you like the false promises you received, smart guy?
Purp| 8.15.12 @ 8:00AM
Yep, and even was sad when he was shot. But I don't care what you believe. That's your problem, not mine.
Anthony| 8.14.12 @ 8:34AM
Being a non-productive piece of deadwood isn't a very pleasent prospect for one's existence, eh Purp?
We achievers understand your shame. It's like we've said all along, all we guarantee is equal opportunity, not equal outcome. Oh well, it is what it is Purp, some have what it takes, some don't.
Frankly Purp, if I was a loser like you, I'd have the self respect to go over the cliff, as opposed to being a serf for the Muslim Marxist, praying for the crumbs off of Moochelle's table.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 12:06PM
Really? You achievers? Wow, I'm so impressed. You know little to nothing about me, but you're so sure only a slackard could care about others, instead of their own money? Try to help others at their own expense? That is so hard to understand?
Not that I even come close to Him - but did you ever hear of Jesus Christ? You can't take it with you, pal.
What you do taketo HIM is the heart you gave to others based on your ability to do so. Enjoy your silly little selfish existence.
You don't offer equal opportunity - why isn't college FREE? Paid for by all of us for the upcoming generations? How is that equal?
You should be ashamed of yourself, completely immoral in your treatment of the poor, elderly and suffering. You sad little troll.
George True| 8.14.12 @ 12:40PM
You are the troll, PurpTroll.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:07PM
Oh, it's the Great Communicator Speaks - Ha.
Oldefarte| 8.14.12 @ 1:22PM
No doubt you've never heard that GOD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES. "college Free"? Nothing in life is ever "FREE", DA, as someone always has to pay, and in your agenda taxpayers pay by earning income and being forced to pay for same with their taxed assets; and who does not pay? The stupids, imbiciles, lazy, DA's, dregs of society and they survive on the cradle-to-grave governmental welfare that taxpayers pay for sadly!!!!!!!!!!
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:10PM
I've also heard of the Golden Rule, but you apparently have not.
You think it's a bad idea to pay for young people to go to college? How about High School? Grammar School? Who's gonna pay for your Social Security and Medicare oldfart if they don't get good jobs? Hmmmm?
Why don't you go look up how many people are the Dregs in Society? You'd be surprised how few there are and how little you really know.
You're funny as one who is dependent on government welfare right now, aren't you?
CrackerHound| 8.14.12 @ 1:48PM
Hey Purp...Jesus NEVER advocated forced confiscation of wealth to feed a gargantuan government or enslavement of the poor and robbing him of his self worth....the whole teach a man to fish thing.
Conservatives follow the real teachings of Christ a lot closer than liberals...who for the most part are godless. Just take a closer look at their actions.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:12PM
No, he said "Give unto Caesar, that which is Caesar's and to God that which is God's" ... Now what could that possibly, possibly mean when he said that during a discussion of tax collectors?
Conservatives TALK about the teachings of Christ - Many of them don't practice what he preached. But only YOU know what's really in your heart - correction, only YOU and JESUS knows what's really in your heart. Good Luck.
Anthony| 8.14.12 @ 5:57PM
So you want free college education on top of all the rest of what we 50%ers pay for, that the rest don't?
Sorry Purp, try doing as we did, work 2 jobs in college, go to night law school, so we could pay as we go.
It's very stimulating when one accomplishes things on ones own, not being handed something for nothing, as Obozo was raised, as you feel you are entitled to.
No way will I pay for Chief Sitting bullshit Warren @ 60k a year, and other lefty profs, so trolls like you can drink the kool-aide by the gallon.
Get a damn job and do it yourself, you just might have a higher opinion of yourself.
Butch| 8.14.12 @ 7:56PM
I doubt if $60K/year is even half of what she gets at Harvard, Anthony. And that's just base salary, with lots of perks.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:18PM
Yes. We should pay for everyone that can do it to attend college for FREE. Yes. College students would still need and want to work to make some extra money, but tuition, books and even some part of room and board - Yes, FREE.
Getting a good education gives you a good start in life. And, education repays the society it was bred in many times over.
As for me, I'm not asking for me. I'm not that selfish. But, of course, YOU would think that I am, since that is how YOU think.
I'm long past college now, with 4 degrees. But I did have a scholarship and student loans that I paid back. And, I did work through school.
It's a right wing myth that only you people work hard. You're just lying and it's sad if you don't know it. It's another Commandment broken, you're such a good Christian, huh?
oldeham| 8.14.12 @ 8:38AM
Please make note that I made no mention of your political parties on who has done what.
I think there is enough feces to go around on this one.
My point in this that in this election the American People will choose the kind of government they want for the next four years- highly centralized planning that has failed every time it has been used or one that puts power in the hands of the population. And one that has gone to enrich the pockets of Union fat cats. (Unions do NOT create jobs – contrary to what brother Karl had to say.)
Face it - the Obama administration is a total and complete failure. What has it done other than make every attempt to follow the past 10 to 12 years (both parties) of kicking the can down the road. The so-called stimulus DID NOT WORK except to put money in the pockets of big labour and 'selected' eco-friendly industries.
So - do you want four more years of the same thing or a change in direction?
Do you want public sector unions running cities and states into bankruptcy?
Or spending that falls within existing revenue?
The choice is yours - just be prepared to live with your decision.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:22PM
What's with Central Planning? No one is promoting that except the right wing.
You're right, only customers create jobs. Not unions, not CEOs, no one but customers. No customers = no jobs.
President Obama has been a smashing success, just not to you people. Bin Laden is DEAD and GM is Alive.
But 1/2 of you didn't like him on Day 1, if you're honest with yourself, did you?
Stimulus - Oh, my, even Paul Ryan says the Stimulus created jobs in his district. Didn't you get the memo in the rightwing echo chamber? Did they lie to you too?
pogybait| 8.14.12 @ 9:15AM
Purp, simply because you want to rid the country of previous Republican administrations and their neocon stench is no longer a prerogative. There are better ways of doing this, just like our efforts to make sure that those Republicans can no longer muddy the water of the Judicial system we progressives have valiantly kept a nice yellowish hue for decades. Look, together we can and will rebuild American out of the stench and ashes of Captitalism….as progressives we can look forward to the day when there will be a boot in every pot and three families living out of every garage…..Forward
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 12:07PM
Are you a reverse Troll? haha
George True| 8.14.12 @ 12:05PM
Troll alert!
Oldefarte| 8.14.12 @ 1:06PM
Name your preferred pols!!!!!!!!!
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 8:11AM
Romney was losing, and so he tried the "Hail Mary" pass to change the campaign. He did. He has now not only lost, but he put the House of Representatives and their ill-conceived passage of the Ryan Plan TWICE!
Republicans around the country are trying to run away from the Romney/Ryan plan now.
No one believes they aren't planning to dismantle Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. They are, and now let them defend it.
Romney shook up the race alright, just not the way he expected.
They simply believe in rewarding only the successful people who already have made it, at the expense of everyone else. As if that is going to pay everyone's bills? America isn't that stupid.
But, good job, RomBot, you failed again. Neither Ryan or Romney have military service, both grew up in a privileged, protected environment, neither has any foreign policy experience. And Ryan wants to throw Grandma off the cliff (and Grandpa, and sick Aunt Nellie, and young widow Jessie with 2 little kids and, and, and ... that isn't the America we want)
DTOM| 8.14.12 @ 8:55AM
Purp,
Too bad you have no understanding of polling. If you look for even half a second at those polls you'd find that they over-represented Democrats by 10 plus percent. They are of "Adults" or "registered voters" "not the more accurate "Likely voters."
I hope you keep believing those warped polls. OBama should come out and tell us what he couldn't tell Vlad back in May, 'until after the election.' Valerie wouldn't let him of course.
Aren't you people supporting Obama the least bit ashamed of the obvious terror the little President lives in that either Michelle or Valerie are going to forget themselves and bitch slap Barry in public for eating some deep-fried double cheeseburger while having a smoke?
They obviously terrify him. Maybe they should.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 12:11PM
Apparenlty you haven't noticed the switch to Likely Voters in many polls lately - but the RomBot campaign did - voila - Paul Ryan to gin your little hearts up to Republican wet dreamville.
But, he's already distancing himself from Ryan's plans. RomBot flipped in less than 72 hours. How dumb can he be? You're head should be spinning - no one is voting for VP, they vote for P. Enjoy your little victory lap ... it's back to Romney's taxes now.
Oldefarte| 8.14.12 @ 1:24PM
NAME YOUR PREFERRED POLITICIANS????????
Dr. B| 8.14.12 @ 6:28PM
Oldefarte, Purv prefers Obama. The idiot's choice.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:25PM
Why? To what purpose, FART?
CJW| 8.14.12 @ 9:54AM
Obamaboy purpie
You are desperate.
Please explain the Ayn Rand philosophy. You did such as great job yesterday explaining socialism, anarchists, and capitalism.
You also did a great job explaining how rasing taxes rates stimulates the economy.
Not to mention the great job you did explaining how the tax rate of 0% will increase to 8% when Romney reduces the tax rates by 25% . Maybe you want to explain the meaning of increase and decrease.
Best was you explanation of:
1) Rezko paying for Obama's house,
2) Michele getting an increase from $100,000 to $317,000 (now that is an increase) per year from Chicago hospital for which Obama requested an earmark of one million dollars. The position was eliminated in Jan 2009 when Michele became First Vacationer and Obama the First Golfer.
Let's hear the explanations again purpie, the village idiot.
George True| 8.14.12 @ 12:09PM
Game, set, match, CJ. However, it is best not to engage the troll at all. His only purpose is to throw out ridiculous and easily refuted lies in order to hijack the thread and prevent any real discussion and exchange of ideas.
CJW| 8.14.12 @ 12:32PM
Give it up, idiot. Romney is not raising the rate from 0 to 8% except for idiots like you.
What moron actually believes a person with not taxable income at 0% will not pay 8%?
Answser: brain dead lefties like purp who have never paid taxes, and do not understand the tax system, and the economy.
CJW| 8.14.12 @ 12:34PM
This is for Purpie.
George, you are correct, but purpie's comments are like low hanging fruit, so easy. He has given up, desperate.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 12:12PM
No. Typical right wing ploy - blather, blather about things never said.
I sent you directly to Romney's site where it is explained - if you don't like it, talk to him. Imbecile.
CJW| 8.14.12 @ 12:37PM
In addition to being stupid, you are also a purp-soful liar, to wit, your own words, forever on the inernet:Purpie
You need to calm down, purpie and admit you made a mistake and do not understand the tax rates and economics.
You just cannot accept facts, and continue to lie, so in your own words:
Purp| 8.9.12 @ 2:13PM
Did you pass Math in school?
If I pay no income tax today, but by Romney's plan, 10% goes to 8%, but I pay nothing today - how do I not pay 8% more than I do today?
8% Romney - 0% today = 8% tax on my income, whatever it is.
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CJW| 8.9.12 @ 4:02PM
Listen slowly idiot, 10% goes to 8% only if you area at 10%.
If you are at 0%, like you because you are too stupid to work, then you remain at 0% . You do not go to 8%
I am going to save this for a purpie screen shot. You actually believe that your rate goes from 0 to 8 because there is a reduction from 10 to 8.
I feel sorry for you. You are too stupid to laugh at.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:29PM
GOD you are dumb. If you pay zero, you are part of the "expansion of the tax base". Regardless of what the rate will be, it won't be zero and everyone will pay some income tax - even if you don't now. Doesn't that make you happy also? Even if it's only 1 dollar, it will be more then ZERO, now won't it? Stop being stuck on stupid and percentages.
BTW - Ryan wants non-working income to be taxed at ZERO percent. So the lowest income earners are to pay more than ZERO, while the wealthiest, like Mitt the Twit will pay ZERO capital gains taxes. You do understand what investment income is, don't you?
CJW| 8.15.12 @ 8:04AM
Give it up, idiot.
Admit you made a mistake and don't know anything about the tax code or economics.
Zero means zero, idiot.
You are a liar and stupid.
Oldefarte| 8.14.12 @ 1:26PM
Go cash your $2 check from Eric@Justice!!!!!!
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:29PM
Is that all he gives YOU? I won't tell you what I make then.
Drunken Sailor| 8.14.12 @ 11:53AM
Man, Purp when your right your right. That would explain Ryan's approval rating going from 39% approval rating just prior to his VP nominatin to 50% after people have heard him talk.
http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....ght_choice
You stink of desperation.
Drunken Sailor| 8.14.12 @ 11:55AM
More bad news for Obama, apparently Ryan is pretty well liked now in Ohio as well.
http://www.rasmussenreports.co....._paul_ryan
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 12:13PM
WE AIN"T VOTING FOR RYAN, dumpkopf.
Drunken Sailor| 8.14.12 @ 12:27PM
So why are you in such a panic and blasting Ryan then if your not worried about him?
Drunken Sailor| 8.14.12 @ 12:39PM
Damn Purp. There goes that theory.
According to Zogby the Ryan pick helped Romney with younger voters and independents, two key battleground constituencies. "Romney saw a bump in support among 18-29 year olds with 41 percent saying they would vote for the ticket of Romney and Ryan," said Zogby. "More importantly, Romney and Ryan led Obama and Biden among independent voters 45 percent to 40 percent."
http://washingtonexaminer.com/.....le/2504749
George True| 8.14.12 @ 12:47PM
And according to the two latest internal polls conducted by the Romney campaign, R&R are now leading in Wisconsin by 12%. According to WHI, they purposely leaked these results to team Obama, who are now pooping their collectivist panties.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:36PM
Georgie - Time will tell. 2 weeks after an event is usually more telling in polling.
But why is Rehberg in Montana distancing himself from Ryan's plan? Why have Republican strategists said that the Republicans have now lost the chance to take over the Senate? Why are they saying that the House is now in play? Why is Ryan not willing to talk about his own plan now? Why are they saying that the Presidency is lost already?
Perhaps they are just lulling Obama into a false sense of security? I anxiously await your answers.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:32PM
Drunk - Would you believe a poll I sent you by the NY Times? Hahahaha.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:31PM
Because Romney said "I'd sign Ryan's plan in a minute" ... that's why. With Ryan comes Ryan's plan, so sad, too bad, but that's politics.
RomBot has enraged, energized and awakened the sleeping giant - the Center and Left.
Oldefarte| 8.14.12 @ 1:28PM
"WE" are no doubt instead voting for the BLACK JESUS.....once again!!!!!!!!!!!!
Langston R.| 8.14.12 @ 8:29AM
Paul Ryan and Ayn Rand
Back in 2005, Paul Ryan credited the polemical novelist and libertarian Ayn Rand as a central inspiration for his entry into public life.
By the spring of 2012, the boyish congressman had become a Republican star, widely named as a possible vice presidential pick. He also had become considerably less comfortable being linked to the controversial Rand, an atheist with a tartly Darwinian world view.
Ayn Rand encouraged the world’s “makers” to pursue “rational self interest” as “the highest moral purpose of [one's] life,” while giving little care to the nefarious “takers.”
Rational self interest as the highest moral purpose of one's life? Doesn't sound very Christian to me.
Jamison| 8.14.12 @ 8:38AM
Ayn Rand was a narcissistic, manipulative sociopath without a shred of empathy. I have read her works, and I concluded that she is downright evil.
I think the Left will have a field day linking Ryan to Rand's selfish, unChristian philosophy.
Stay tuned folks. You're going to hear much more about Paul Ryan's love affair with the evil, atheist Ayn Rand.
up&coming| 8.14.12 @ 8:42AM
Politics and politicians!
How they irritate.
It's all too amusing to see how Ryan is trying now to distance himself from his atheistic mentor--the nefarious Ayn Rand.
He's as phony as the rest of them.
Anthony| 8.14.12 @ 8:49AM
Oh, so the lefty trolls have come upon a new attack. Reagan is no longer the Devil, it's Ayn Rand.
My, my, if only you trolls spent as much time examining the heart and soul of your savior, The One.
I think you would find the sentence" Obozo is a narcissistic, manipulative sociopath without empathy", far more fitting to the Muslim Marxist than Paul Ryan.
But have at it, it's all you pathetic fools have.
Warrior| 8.14.12 @ 11:07AM
Of course, not one mention of mentors like Frank Marshall Davis, Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers. These clowns will post anything except for the record of the last 4 years.
CopyKatnj| 8.14.12 @ 11:24AM
Has anyone noticed that Ayn Rand's name has been brought up a lot in comments sections recently? I've noticed this the past week, since Ryan's VP acceptance. There's the one where she accepted medicare when dying that has been used in several other comment boards. Hmmm . WTH is that all about?
JD| 8.14.12 @ 11:52AM
Democratic liars try to tell us that receiving the benefits of a social program you are forced to pay into against your will is hypocrisy.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:38PM
JD - you are too funny... hahahaha.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:37PM
You don't know why? Seriously?
Seek| 8.14.12 @ 4:42PM
One need not be a "Leftist" or a "troll" to recognize the hysterical tone of voice in Rand's writing style. Whittaker Chambers, in panning "Atlas Shrugged" in National Review more than 50 years ago, said exactly the same thing about her: She had a sociopathic, almost homicidal tone in her writing. Reading each of the first-person accounts by ex-disciples Nathaniel and Barbara Branden in the late 80s confirmed this further. Maybe instead of calling her critics "pathetic," you can consider the reasonableness of her critics. As for me, make mine Public Choice, Chicago, Austrian...anything but Randian.
JD| 8.14.12 @ 10:25AM
Rand did one thing with chilling accuracy: explain exactly how statism plays out in practice. Between Atlas Shrugged and Orwell's 1984, two books written before Obama was born have predicted his world almost perfectly.
One does not need to agree with Rand's atheism or other eccentricities to take value from her work.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:39PM
I don't see any of you here marching in unison to Obama's commands.... so much for your silly argument.
Butch| 8.14.12 @ 8:02PM
Heh. Good luck on running on the Ayn Rand issue. That's a sure-fire winner man; that'll get lots of Obama voters out to the polls.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:40PM
Don't need to - Paul "Medicare Killer" Ryan, is all we needed.
DTOM| 8.14.12 @ 9:00AM
Langston - Nice talking point presentation.
Does George Soros pay you by the word or by the post?
Your plaint 'doesn't sound very Christian to me' shows you that you have missed the fundamentals of Christian love.
Better go back and try again. Christians will recognize your sham and know who you for who you are.
George might not bother to pay you for that, as sloppy as it is. Oh yeah, that was a talking point, so no worry, your check is in the mail.
Stooge!
DTOM
Jack London| 8.14.12 @ 9:28AM
"the fundamentals of Christian love.'
You mean policies that force millions more into poverty with the Ryan/Rand plan, I take it. If that's your idea of love, I hope never to see your hate.
CJW| 8.14.12 @ 10:21AM
The compassionate Obama and the Dems have forced more people on welfare and poverty than anything since the Depression, and increased unemployment to 10% for the past four years.Black and Latino unemployment have increased. Food stamp recipients have increased .
The economy cannot take any more of the Obama love that you preach.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:41PM
Uh, CJ, that was GW Bush's policies that did that, or did you just wake up?
CJW| 8.15.12 @ 8:06AM
You are a liar.
Obama has caused the worst depression since 1932.
The only job he created is your $10 hour troll job to post here.
JD| 8.14.12 @ 10:28AM
Jeffrey Lord is right. It's time to stop letting people like Jack London entertain the illusion that they have any moral high ground.
Jack, YOUR policies are evil. They create poverty and suffering, and they do so actively, not passively. You are wrong, and no amount of wordsmithing will change that. Stealing from people is wrong, and all the more so when done at the point of the government's guns. Your delusions of "good intentions" change nothing.
Jack London| 8.14.12 @ 10:36AM
So CJW, JD - brainiacs both. Let's say you won the presidency instead of Obama. You've just inherited an economy that's crashed harder than any since the Great Depression. Your boy Ryan, by the way, voted for TARP. Now over to you.
CJW| 8.14.12 @ 10:49AM
You are serious? Whatever Obama did, don't do.
Fairly simple. Allow drilling for oil, gas to reduce energy costs for business and consumers. Stop the over-regulation of business, and issuing new regulations daily. Don't enact obamacare.
Dont go 6 trillion in debt. Dont pass Dodd/Frank.
Extend the tax cuts, and do more tax cuts. Simplify the tax code. The list is endless.
Jack London| 8.14.12 @ 11:15AM
Our oil production reached a 10 year high last year and imports are down.
What regulations that were in any case there under Bush would you scrap?
Obamacare costings from the CBO project savings - and don't forget just how much uinsured care costs localities.
The tax cuts were extended.
What loopholes would you end in the tax code?
As for Dodd-Frank, Ryan has said he'd like Glass-Steagall back. Go figure that.
CJW| 8.14.12 @ 11:44AM
Imports are down because the Obama economy is in the tank, The four or five million unemployed and underemployed are not driving to work. Oil production is up only in the private lands, not Alaska or offshore. We should have zero imports with our reserves.
If you believe the Obamacare cost savings I have a bridge in Chappadiquick for you.
Extend the cuts indefinetely with additional cuts.
Not much if answer from you.
John Navratil| 8.14.12 @ 2:04PM
Jack London,
Production was up due to the private sector. It was down on Federal lands thanks to the policies of Obama.
As for loopholes, we can start with dumping just about everything in the General Business Category.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:42PM
What over-regulation? Bush passed more regulations at this point in his Presidency than Obama has - oh, didn't you know?
Don't follow GW Bush as President - that's all Obama needed from your plan.
spike59| 8.14.12 @ 10:55AM
you're forgetting a few facts, jackie...the Democrats took over Congress after the 2006 mid-terms, and the Great Recession began once they assumed total control of Congress-every budget they passed was even LARGER than the budgets proposed by Bush...and you hero, ObaMao, was part of that bunch who was in control of the Congress
funny how the economy tanked as soon as the Democrats took over the Congress...
Jack London| 8.14.12 @ 11:19AM
What crashed the economy was massive speculation in home and commercial real estate, while the big surplus that Bush inherited was spent on big tax cuts, wars and the drug benefit, amid a two term presidency that had poor growth.
So - you couldn't be more wrong. What level of education do you have?
CopyKatnj| 8.14.12 @ 11:34AM
Clinton enlarged the CRA, banks needed security for the risky loans, Glass-Steagle got repealed, toxic loans bundled, Bush warned Congress it was unsustainable, Frank and Dodd said he was wrong ---- financial collapse as Bush said.
JD| 8.14.12 @ 11:51AM
Jack, Jack, Jack. I've debunked those lies many times, and you've not counter-argued my debunking once.
1. The speculation was caused by government backing subprime, resulting in automatic AAA ratings for subprime debt.
2. There was no big surplus. The projections were Enron-style accounting that assumed 1998's bubble would never burst.
3. The "tax cuts" simply undid Clinton's hikes and revenue well exceeded projections after them. Growth was good until the Democrats took congress.
4. 9/11 was inevitable by the time Bush took office.
So - you couldn't be more wrong. What level of education do you have?
JD| 8.14.12 @ 11:47AM
A hypothetical you would never play yourself. Typical. Nothing more than a fishing expedition.
1. Institute a "What's Your Number?" campaign. Democrats have thrived on misinformation for too long - educating the public is key to ending their corruption. Reagan greatly expanded the tax data the CBO collects so that it could thwart liberal lies, but Obama has perfected the art of thwarting THAT with spending through the tax code. It's time to turn the tables again. My campaign would sum all government transactions with a person - taxes paid, cash benefits received - and generate a net federal balance for the person - positive or negative - telling him how he factors into federal finances.
2. All federal spending classified as "subsidies" ends immediately. All "refundable" tax credits become non-refundable. Deductions and marginal tax rates are restored to 1990 levels - for now. Later steps would eliminate all deductions and institute a 15% flat tax (no more payroll tax), but that's too big a shock to do immediately.
3. End taxation of overseas earnings completely. This foolish policy generates little revenue, instead motivating people to not bring their money back into the country. No other country even attempts this foolishness, and even Bill Clinton condemns it.
JD| 8.14.12 @ 11:48AM
4. Copy the educational system of the world's most successful countries: vouchers. Attach money to each child, allowing that money to be used at any accredited school. Accreditation should mean providing knowledge of required subject matter; nothing further.
5. Pass legislation making it illegal for health insurers to offer group discounts. This is a pragmatic rather than idealistic attempt to end insurance-through-employer, a trend the government started which now causes many problems. I would eliminate all federal rules against a la carte insurance, enabling people to buy a level of insurance that they want. I would strengthen HSA legislation and replace federal employees' health insurance with a subsidy towards private health insurance purchase. The government started insurance-through-employer, now it will take the lead in ending it. Society as a whole will learn to pay for what it gets.
6. Eliminate the "American Rule" in the courts. This rule says that each side pays its own court costs regardless of outcome in any civil trial. Most other countries have the loser pay both sides' costs. A consequence of our rule is frivolous lawsuits - people threaten legal action in order to extort "settlements" that cost just less than the legal costs of defending the lawsuit (successfully). This is why we have way more lawyers in America than anywhere else. Let's end it!
JD| 8.14.12 @ 11:48AM
7. National citizen ID card issued to each citizen (no charge) by the federal government. Replacements do cost - cost of production. Latest technology used to make unforgeable. No federal benefits or voting in federal elections without showing it.
8. Social Security's retirement age is linked to life expectancy. Beyond that, it's painful to kill a pyramid scheme. More later.
9. Border fence with Mexico. Not that expensive in the grand scheme of things. No illegals get citizenship until it's done. Also, English is declared the national language and is the only language required for any federal materials. Standardization is efficiency, multiple languages are inefficiency, and there is no meaningful link between race and language.
10. End all federal activities outside law enforcement that identify or otherwise act upon the race, gender, or other demographic characteristics of a person.
loulou| 8.14.12 @ 11:54AM
JD, you're GOOD!
Boar Hunter| 8.14.12 @ 12:16PM
If I understand your proposals correctly;
#1 will never happen because it is racist.
#2 you are evil and probably engaging in Dog whistle racism.
#3 well you get the idea LOL.
I love it where do I sign on?
George True| 8.14.12 @ 12:20PM
JD: Every item you just listed is completely unassailable. If enacted in the aggregate, they would create the greatest expansion of prosperity collectively and individually that this country has seen in a long time. Try as they might, none of the leftist trolls here could poke holes in any of the above listed items from any standpoint - morality or practicality. Well done, sir.
JD| 8.14.12 @ 12:22PM
I would hope I haven't wasted all these years reading and debated only to come up with weak points :)
But thanks for the compliments. Still, you go too far. The left will find plenty to "assail". Boar Hunter's analysis is sadly accurate.
CJW| 8.14.12 @ 12:38PM
JD
Excellent work.
Jack London| 8.14.12 @ 1:57PM
Virtually nothing here that will have any short ted impact on the economy, bar ending subsidies - and I can really see your voting base lining up to end oil and farming subsidies... not. It was Obama who called to end oil subsidies - it was your stooges in Congress who wouldn't do it.
Jack London| 8.14.12 @ 1:57PM
meant short-term impact
JD| 8.14.12 @ 3:02PM
You asked what I would do, not how I would maximize the short-term. Besides, the way to fix the short-term is to stop obsessing over the short-term. Give business real evidence that it's safe to invest in America again. Long-term! You liberals always underestimate the impact of changes on business's behavior.
And I have no "stooges". Your straw man argument says that I love everything the GOP does. I never said that.
I do, however, see how it's unwise to give up what little leverage we have on Democrats without extracting something in return. They play dirty; one can't hand them gifts. In that sense, I oppose yielding subsidies Democrats hate without commensurate cuts in taxes/spending they like.
JD| 8.14.12 @ 4:05PM
I should have scrutinized Jack's comment more carefully. In addition to changing the goal to "short-term" AND not bothering to offer any reasons why any of my ideas shouldn't be implemented (unless "not saving the economy immediately" is reason to not enact a policy), Jack also messed up his attempt to find minimal consensus.
He said "ending subsidies" was the only thing that would have short-term impact.
Given his subsequent support for ending subsidies (support here takes the form of "condemning his enemies for not wanting to do it"), one would gather that Jack thinks ending subsidies would have a POSITIVE effect.
Reality check: Ending subsidies would have less short-term positive effect than most of what I posted. Only when the money previously spent on subsidies is reclaimed for better uses would it have positive impact, and that time is hard to see when our monetary system obfuscates the federal balance sheet as it does. Short-term benefit? The only short-term impact would be losses in subsidized companies! The growth of never-subsidies competitors would be slower.
Jack's analysis of short-term benefit seems to be more a putting-together of positive adjectives with policies he supports than a reasoned analysis.
Jack London| 8.14.12 @ 4:49PM
I asked you what you would have done to get the economy moving faster than Obama has done. Nothing you have said gives the faintest glimmer of any hope your ideas would have worked.
So I guess no stimulus, GM to the wall etc for you.
The one thing now that is needed that would make the most impact is a major help for underwater homeowners. This would unlock demand in the economy. Sadly this is being blocked by the Fannie M. regulator.
JD| 8.14.12 @ 5:06PM
You didn't ask that, but my positions are a good answer anyway. You have yet to elaborate on the fault you supposedly find with them.
And instead, you propose more "stimulus". More "spending drives the economy", despite our past discussions in which you've had no answer to the fact that wealth must be produced before it can be spent. You seem to think we can print money, hand it out, and live forever on its circulation. And you people call US "trickle-down" believers!
Say Bob and Joe both bought $300,000 houses. Bob put $100,000 down. Joe put $0 down. Now both houses are worth $230,000. Joe is "underwater". Bob is not. Why should Joe get a big write-down, but not Bob?
Oh, I know! Because Joe "needs" it to sell his house, while Bob does not. That's all that matters to you people, isn't it? "Need". You think "need" produces wealth. You think "need" is merit. You think "need" drives economies!
"Need" doesn't do crap. "Need" didn't "build that." Builders build. Producers produce.
Oh, and if I'd had my way, there'd be no recession to fix!
Jack London| 8.14.12 @ 5:36PM
No you dummy - it's about helping many more to refinance, not giving them cash. Those who aren't underwater can already refinance. There is no advantage to our economy in keeping people locked into predatory loans and forcing them into foreclosure when they could pay back a repackaged loan. But I don't expect you to have a clue about this - after all, it's only been backed by people like a Nobel economics prize winner (Stiglitz). So it must be wrong, huh?
I think one of the very worst aspects of people like you is the anti-science, anti-evidence, anti-everything that makes up society. It's like dealing with a Salem witch hunter. Goodness only knows why you want to live here and not somewhere like the Cayman Islands where you can sit and count your money all day, every day.
JD| 8.14.12 @ 6:15PM
I am all about evidence, logic, and reason, and I've said nothing to show otherwise. You're mud-slinging.
The advantage to the economy of not giving away money is "not giving away money". How will you help people refinance without giving them money? By changing a stupid federal regulation? Sounds like something I would support. But otherwise you're giving away money. Pick a side and stick to it.
CJW| 8.14.12 @ 8:23PM
Can you define a predatory loan for the underwater mortgages?
Nick| 8.14.12 @ 5:19PM
You mean the GM bailout that has cost taxpayers over $25 BILLION!, Jack'o?
And, since you nothing about economics & business, bankruptcy protection doesn't mean GM would have gone away, brainiac. (I see that you are stealing my lines now, typical liberal.)
Plus, GM & Chrysler still had to file for bankruptcy, even with the O'Bama forced, taxpayer supplied bailout, remember?
K-Mart & Owens Corning are still around, He Who Abuses Small Animals.
Jack London| 8.14.12 @ 5:51PM
On cue, we have Nazi Nick. Well NN, the facts are that GM went through exactly the type of managed bankruptcy that Romney was arguing for, except there was no private money to stop it closing, bringing down a huge slice of our economy. There's plenty of bipartisan support for the government intervention. And guess who voted for the initial GM/Chrysler bailout? I give you Mr Paul Ryan.
Nick| 8.14.12 @ 7:12PM
More lies from He Who Eats Lead Paint Chips.
Plus, you seem to have me confused with your fellow lefty, Jackboot from Wi, who is most definitely a Nazi, Jack'o.
Boar Hunter| 8.14.12 @ 12:10PM
Remind me how Obama's brother and sister are doing again?
Romney has given millions from his own pocket, but it is he who is the greedy corporatist.
Obama has not given anything beyond the lint and pennies that accidentally fall out while fishing for his blackberry, yet you cling to delusions that this self absorbed Ebenezer Scrooge will someday give you a life you never worked for.
Obama's policies have forced millions out of work and into poverty or into the disability system simply to feed themselves.
Black unemployment is at a record high and Obama has put more people on food stamps than anyone in the history of America.
You show disdain for Christianity, which Obama claims as his religion, because you know there is not a Christian bone in his body.
Obama supports islam that calls for the murder homosexuals. You simply ignore his stance on supporting those who murder your beloved gays and instead rail against Chick-Fil-A. Who gives them free water and chairs to sit in while they protest.
Obama has not passed a budget in three years and cannot get a single Democrat to vote for any he has proposed, yet you call RYAN an extremest.
The liberal media can no longer prop up this petty dictator with lies and platitudes.
Your grand Statist experiment has come to an end.
Of that you should be glad, another Obama term would awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with terrible resolve.
You are right to fear the hate you spawned.
CJW| 8.14.12 @ 12:40PM
BH
Four more years of Obama and we will live like Obama's brother in Kenya.
Obama and Michele were going to send the Kenya brother some money, but you know, with Spain, Hawaii, golfing, dinner in Manhattan,....
Anthony| 8.14.12 @ 8:42AM
Yes, and as Milton Friedman said so eloquently, if I may paraphrase, "rational self interest" is that glorious human trait of desire, ability, motivation, and talent, that leads individuals to accomplish wonderful things for the betterment of all mankind.
Sounds very Christian to me.
up&coming| 8.14.12 @ 8:58AM
Of course it sounds "Christian" to you. You right-wingers can rationalize anything as Christian as along as it reflects your philosophy and self interests.
Indeed, Ayn Rand and Paul Ryan are a pair, and you are going to hear more and more about them right up to the election.
DTOM| 8.14.12 @ 9:03AM
Nice talking point!!!!
And you inform us that we are going to hear more about them - you slipped and displayed that this actually is a talking point.
So does George pay you by the word or the posting.
I'm beginning to think it's by the posting - otherwise you would blather on endlessly.
George is no dummy, is he?
up&coming; you are a stooge, too. I'm thinking you might be Stooge Langston, in reality.
DTOM
DTOM| 8.14.12 @ 9:09AM
upchuck;
If claiming Paul Ryan is a pair with Ayn Rand is the best you've got - well, then you don't have much, do you...
Good luck working over the Eagle Scout. Attack him on those lines and maybe he'll remind America that the genius in the White House just went public with how unfair it is that the BSA won't allow NAMBLA types to be scout masters.
That'll play real good.
Better go back to Ayn Rand and how practicing Catholics who vote against intrauterine murder are not really Christians.
Good luck with that.
DTOM
pogybait| 8.14.12 @ 9:29AM
I'll light an extra earwax candle for you at the Republican convention, doubt it will open up your mind however.......
up&coming| 8.14.12 @ 9:35AM
Obama to the future! Now and forevermore!
World without end, Amen!
Anthony| 8.14.12 @ 9:56AM
O.K. but only if we can hear more about Obozo and Rev. Wright. Or Obozo and Frank Davis. Deal up&coming;?
loulou| 8.14.12 @ 11:55AM
Can we also hear about Larry Sinclair?
JD| 8.14.12 @ 10:39AM
There are a LOT of Christians who are able to look past Rand's atheism and see agreement with many of her positions. You liberals ignore that reality at your peril.
Your statism is the antithesis of Christianity, period.
Drunken Sailor| 8.14.12 @ 12:06PM
Let me get this straight. The left is full of Aetheist but a man on the right should not agree with some of her economic ideas (notice theology was never discussed).
The left always preaches bi-partisanship and reaching across the aisle but when we nominate a man who presents a economic plan crafted with the opposing party, he is now evil.
The left always preaches tolerance, yet never practices it.
The left screams how Ryans plans will kill medicare (but never actually read the plan) yet ignore the massive cuts Obama has already enacted to the program as well as all the data showing doctors refusing to accept Medicare patients due to the fact they can't afford to stay in business at thos rates?
Do I understand your (the left's) arguments correctly?
I see you guys are so desperate your throwing everything you can at the wall hoping something sticks.
I smell desperation.
Boar Hunter| 8.14.12 @ 12:18PM
Seems to have summed up the situation pretty well.
Oh and by the way, everything a democrat throws against the wall sticks, they are dirty and nasty.
Boar Hunter| 8.14.12 @ 12:22PM
Are you serious?
"You right-wingers can rationalize anything as Christian as along as it reflects your philosophy and self interests."
Are you claiming that you intolerant left wingers accept things that don't comport with your philosophy and self interests?
Drunken Sailor| 8.14.12 @ 12:50PM
Kind of like a rat huh? You can tell where the Democrats hang out by the grease mark on the wall.
lost| 8.14.12 @ 1:21PM
"Of course it sounds "Christian" to you. You right-wingers can rationalize anything as Christian as along as it reflects your philosophy and self interests." I can play that game. Left-wingers can rationalize anything as long as it makes them feel good.
AllantheK| 8.14.12 @ 8:47AM
Not a bad read. This time as we traverse the hallowed halls of government let us push back, waaaay back to the repealing of the 16th and 17th amendments. Put the Senators back under the control of their State houses, where they belong. Abolish the income tax and the IRS's right to take our money. If(when) Romney/Ryan are elected, using the Left's favorite tool, Executive Privilege (EO) abolish all previous departments created and commissioned by former presidents. Let them start their own practice of any commission or department they start also ends with there retirement from office of Pres/VP. NO more of this continual government meddling. OK /rant
DTOM| 8.14.12 @ 9:05AM
Allant'K;
Nice long range plans, those. But maybe we have to get this boot off of our necks a little before we start going for the deep plays. (NFL reference.)
DTOM
loulou| 8.14.12 @ 11:56AM
Because of Obama's eligibility problems all of his EOs should be null and void.
Pecos Pete| 8.14.12 @ 9:32AM
Mr. Lord: Good read! Well written. The trolls will have heart attacks trying to promote their "feel good" philosophy in the face of facts.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 12:14PM
Hahaha ... not a chance.
George True| 8.14.12 @ 12:24PM
Troll alert!
Oldefarte| 8.14.12 @ 1:30PM
Right, domestic terrorists don't have heart attacks!!!!!!!
Pecos Pete| 8.14.12 @ 3:17PM
Violet agrees that he/she/it is a troll.
Indy| 8.14.12 @ 9:48AM
Speaking of Levin, excellent interview on Cavuto yesterday
http://www.therightscoop.com/m.....the-truth/
Kwan| 8.14.12 @ 10:01AM
The real fear for the Obamaites is how many of the suckers, saps, and morons that voted for Obama in 2008 are still dumb enough to do it again. My nephew was one of the saps that voted for Obama in 2008. Once Obama's leftist economic policies began the slowing of the economy the company he worked for began laying-off workers. He lost his job, his home and had to go bankrupt. Needless to say he is not voting for Obama in 2012. Obama and the Democrats rely on the gullible morons in the electorate to remain in power, a shrinkage in this core voting block means a shrinkage in Obama's chances in November.
up&coming| 8.14.12 @ 10:13AM
My family and I are faring quite well, thank you.
We believe Obama's economic policies are best for our country, and we fear the impact of a Romney/Ryan "cater to the rich" economic fiasco.
Let's all be less selfish, more generous, and more Christian by considering the needs of the poor and elderly instead of giving tax breaks to the obscenely rich.
As a Christian, I feel I must speak out about the unfairness embedded in the Romney/Ryan philosophy of "more for the strong, less for the weak."
JD| 8.14.12 @ 10:37AM
As a Christian, I am sickened by your willingness to lie in order to win an election in the name of a government that steals from and abuses its citizens. I am appalled by your delusion that taxing one person less is "giving" him something, while NOT giving a handout to another is "attacking" him. And finally, I see no way that an honest Christian could support the immorality that emanates from the social left on a daily basis.
PJ| 8.14.12 @ 11:10AM
JD,
He/she is probably a federal govn't &/or union employee. They're the only people doing well in this economy & their health insurance will not be affected by Obamacare.
Indy| 8.14.12 @ 10:55AM
Words from Erskine Bowles, Clinton's former Chief of Staff
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012.....ns-budget/
Simple math, our debt is unsustainable, you can confiscate all of the wealth of the top 1% and we would still face a massive debt crisis, massive tax increases will be required for everyone, not just the wealthy. Sadly, too many refuse to face the facts and please don't play the Christian card
“We need to talk about the debt and the real seriousness of that debt,” he continued. “Sometimes we’re perceived as just encouraging the government to spend more money with no realistic way of how we’re going to afford to do this.”
http://www.catholicculture.org.....ryid=14639
PJ| 8.14.12 @ 11:05AM
Thanks for pointing out some great pieces of information.
Over at the Catholic Herald UK, some liberal posters are accusing Paul Ryan of being a lousy Catholic because of his budget proposal & his views on guns. (St*pid a** English!) They certainly need to read your 2nd reference.
Indy| 8.14.12 @ 11:51AM
Funny to accuse PR of being a bad Catholic, really after all the attacks on Religious Liberty with this President and Administration?
Not only has the 1st Amendment been under attack, but what about the rights of parents? This article I read at CNS has received no media attention and the GOP remains silent, what?
http://cnsnews.com/news/articl.....al-consent
We have become a nation where "free sterilization" is a "right" and no parental consent is required?
The Lefts lead Catholics, Kennedy, Pelosi, Sebelius, John Kerry, are they considered good Catholics and Ryan bad, really?
Indy| 8.14.12 @ 12:22PM
More Dems who have praised PR
http://freebeacon.com/eight-de.....-paul-rya/
and for those of you who may say Wyden is backtracking, the Professor is already on the case
http://legalinsurrection.com/2.....paul-ryan/
Drunken Sailor| 8.14.12 @ 12:08PM
Then as a Christian you should know that Charity begins at home, not with Ceasar.
Indy| 8.14.12 @ 12:23PM
Can I get an Amen?
Jeffrey| 8.14.12 @ 1:45PM
Amen brother!
George True| 8.14.12 @ 12:26PM
UpChuck: You may be a lot of things, but you ain't no Christian.
Boar Hunter| 8.14.12 @ 12:27PM
You are as much a christian as my dog.
Kwan was referring to you when he pondered how many morons that voted for Obama are still out there. How many are there in your family?
We need to know where to start counting.
The poor will always be among us, give at the church like Obama does. Oh wait, Obama wont even give to his brother or sister.
Kwan| 8.14.12 @ 12:47PM
It appears the newest leftist tactic to bankrupt the country is to promote the fallacy that we must borrow trillions upon trillions of dollars ( We must borrow money because Obama's anemic economy doesn't generate enough tax revenues.) to save the poor and elderly otherwise we're not being Christian. I can guarantee you that a bankrupted United States will be able to provide nothing for the poor and elderly. The spending party is over now it's time to exercise fiscal sanity or else.
lost| 8.14.12 @ 1:44PM
Welfare is currently like feeding the bears. Feeding bears make them reliant on others, unable to fend for themselves and then a problem. Welfare is just like that and brings very similar problems.
Boar Hunter| 8.14.12 @ 2:34PM
I once watched a video where the fat lady ran out of food. The bear didn't mind, he seemed to consider her to be as tasty as the candy she fed him and much more filling. Oh and in a perfect analogy of liberalism, her husband sat there in the car with his hands on the wheel.
The bear the liberals are training better settle for eating them because when it comes for me I will kill it and use it as a rug.
George S| 8.14.12 @ 2:40PM
You fear paying less taxes? Here, jot down this address:
Gifts to the United States
U.S. Department of the Treasury
Credit Accounting Branch
3700 East-West Highway, Room 622D
Hyattsville, MD 20782
Send a check for whatever amount your Christian heart tells you is fair; they'll take it. You can also attach a note saying "to be used only for the poor and the elderly -- not greasing Obama's campaign bundlers". They'll listen, after all many treasury employees are Christians too.
All kidding aside, I just think you're a sanctimonious windbag who wants to see others forced to pay more money just so you can stroke your self-satisfied smug conscience like an overfed cat.
Was that an un-Christian thing to say?
CJW| 8.14.12 @ 8:28PM
Since you are a Christian, how do you feel about Obama golfing over 100 times, and Michele vacationing in Spain, Hawaii, Matha's Vineyard, dinner dates in Manhattan, all while our soldiers are dying for no reason in Afghan?
And as a Christian, how do you feel about Obama not giving a nickel to his brother living in real porverty in Kenya? Obama helps only with taxpayers's money, not his.
speakingthetruth| 8.14.12 @ 10:16AM
God bless you, up&coming;.
JD| 8.14.12 @ 10:34AM
Best I've ever seen from Lord. But to me, these are the reasons the Ryan pick was good:
1. The Left HATES the pick, and the right loves it. There's proof that it's a good pick for Romney.
1. It refocuses the campaign on issues. Obama has been desperate to make this about anything but issues. Ryan is Mr. Issue. He's the single person, on either side of the aisle, willing to propose bold plans to truly address our issues. Obama is sick - he can't waste air-time condemning Romney's haircut anymore.
3. Many writers, especially liberals, have been noting recently that there are no undecideds left, and all that matters is "getting out the vote". Given that, they've been "suggesting" that Romney nominate an aisle-crosser, which is of course their insidious way of sabotaging his campaign by inciting more conservatives to stay home in November. But Romney didn't bite - he chose the person most likely to motivate conservatives to vote out of all the possibilities.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 12:15PM
The LEFT LOVES this pick. Issues are where we want it. Ryan energizes the base - on the left. You guys are already energized by Obama. Thank you again for the gift Mitt the Twit.
JD| 8.14.12 @ 12:24PM
If issues are where they want it, why are we hearing only about Seamus and Bain and tax returns and being born rich and closing a steel mill?
Oh my. Don't tell me you think THOSE are issues?
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:44PM
Guess you missed MEDICARE this week, huh?
George True| 8.14.12 @ 12:28PM
Troll alert!
Oldefarte| 8.14.12 @ 1:33PM
The only "issues" that "energizes" you pigs is.............. more government welfare!!!!!!!!
George S| 8.14.12 @ 2:44PM
Tell me... what pick would have terrified the Left?
How much money did Obama rake in after Ryan was announced? Just want a gauge on the 'energize' level.
JD| 8.14.12 @ 3:04PM
Hillary Clinton would probably have terrified Obama, since many liberals probably wish she got the 2008 nomination now. But having two liberal tickets would hardly terrorize "the Left". Purp was lying.
Purp| 8.14.12 @ 11:46PM
Chris Cristy might have been a better pick. He can deal with so many more "Weighty" Issues ... ahahahahhaha ...
He could "Squash" any Romney surrogates that steop out of line ... hahahaha.. I kill myself.
spike59| 8.17.12 @ 3:54PM
promises, promises...
swimdog| 8.14.12 @ 10:36AM
Mr. Lord, what an incredible historical narrative- One of the best pieces you've written. Thanks for the insight!!
Gary B| 8.14.12 @ 11:03AM
Hear, hear...
PJ| 8.14.12 @ 10:55AM
Mr Lord,
I generally agree in everything you say esp in the essay. How can Romney/Ryan not win?
Yet, I still worry.
The typical voter of today is different from many angles compared to those in 1980. For example, more are receiving govn't handouts, a HS & college educations have been dummied-down, more people are taking prescription painkillers & anti-depressants (some for the stupiest of reasons), a new type of citizen who does not understand the relevance of & concepts behind the Declaration of Independence & the US Constitution, etc....
I could go on & on, but in general we are living with a more ignorant citizen who does not identify or who refuses to relate to those American ideas that made this country great.
Ken (Old Texican)| 8.14.12 @ 11:09AM
Mr. Lord,
Now we got to get our message out in sound bites and bumpr stickers...ie
"Ypu want me to loan you a dollar, or would you wash my car an EARN ten dollars?"
or: "Able bodied welfare recipients Suck"
or
"intercourse causes chidren"
Drunken Sailor| 8.14.12 @ 12:11PM
"After 4 years of Hope and Change, America is ready for some R&R"
Boar Hunter| 8.14.12 @ 12:29PM
That was a most excellent line! May I quote you?
Drunken Sailor| 8.14.12 @ 12:42PM
Sure I stole it from a Tweet (actually a newscaster read it from a tweet). We should all pass it around.
Boar Hunter| 8.14.12 @ 2:35PM
LOL!
Petronius| 8.14.12 @ 11:28AM
Ken
The biggest problem is "most intercourse causes children who never grow up."
nathan| 8.14.12 @ 11:35AM
There's the talk, which is cheap and means nothing, then there's the record which is how you evaluate people. The only basis for evaluating people. The talk versus the walk.
The record. He voted for: No child left behind, supported the auto and bank bailouts. Voted for TARP and DEMANDED others do the same. The great medicare reformer voted for Plan D which added a trillion or more in unfunded liabilities to the deficit. Look good so far?
His "balanced" budget balances 26 years from now and little or no details. The other Paul, Rand balances in five and would cut four cabinent positions. PR's cuts to domestic discretionary spending amount to an average of just 35 billion per year below what BHO proposed. WOW revolutionary! LOL
Last year he said we have to solve our budget problems so we continue to be the world's policeman. Yeah, that's worked out real well lately. He proposed no cuts in defense despite the recent IG report and despite the fact we already spend more than the next 10 countries combined. Sorry folks if you aren't talking about cutting defense, you aren't serious about cutting the budget.
Now that's his RECORD. Impressed? we talk about BHO deficits. Well how about talking about the man who actually voted for a lot of those spending bills? If he were really bold about reforming medicare, he could start with rolling back Plan D? Or is that a little too much "principle" for the great one?
George True| 8.14.12 @ 12:32PM
So because in your view Ryan is not conservative enough, you would prefer the Marxist destroyer of prosperity in the white house for another four years?
I'm having difficulty understanding your logic.
Drunken Sailor| 8.14.12 @ 12:43PM
Simply. Neither of the Paul's is running so he is miffed.
Who Knows?| 8.14.12 @ 11:38AM
The fun and games have already started.
Think of the dotcom bubble, or the way housing prices kept going up every year, way beyond the averages.
I can see a graph with the ten-year average “price” of whatever, and the current price records way above it. The gap has become SO HUGE, that there’s bound to be a snap back---to reality, as it were.
Ah, I can still see Algore, playing “fool you”, displaying his fake graphs, saying something like “Everything that should be up, is down, and everything that should be down is up.” But, there is always a real reality; AND since we are humans, and think, there will be competing sets of words to describe this reality.
The leftwing nuts have blown their “words” and “graphs” way out of connection with real reality!
Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney are present-day examples of what makes America still exceptional. When the going gets tough, from her pool of talent, she always seems to throw up SOMEONE to get tough.
Lincoln emphasized the “field of opportunity”, and despite the tries by LBJ, FDR, etc, blown out by BHO, there is still a reservoir of freedom lovers, who will take the opportunity, and run with it---for IT: freedom verses tyranny.
The next 12 weeks are going to be AWESOME!
Seek| 8.14.12 @ 11:44AM
Paul Ryan no more "terrifies" the Left than Sarah Palin did back in 2008. I'm a Republican all the way, but if Jeffrey Lord thinks the Obama campaign lives in chattering fear of this guy, he's living in fantasyland -- and not for the first time. Identifying one's self with Ronald Reagan has a limited shelf life. It will carry the GOP only so far.
This is going to be a down-to-the-wire race, probably decided, as in 2000, by Florida. The debates and TV ads will be all-out, brass-knuckles politics. Count on it.
George True| 8.14.12 @ 12:35PM
According to Ulsterman's white house insider, team Obama are pooping their collectivist panties. If you think WHI is not real, just remember that everything he has predicted for the last three years, months ahead of time in every case, has come to pass.
Mimi | 8.14.12 @ 1:43PM
Ask WHI how they think playing it Dirty& Filthy is going to help them govern if they ever do win...It's a loose, loose for them. The Dem's are dying and being killed by the lefty Libs...their biggest mistake was to agree with them and not expecting a move to the center. The American people are disgusted by the "GOOD" Dems not speaking up for America ...they cherish there freedom and Liberty as all americans left and right do....to bad they haven't been honest....they will disappear slowly or overnight...either way lack of guts and courage will cost them!
George True| 8.14.12 @ 2:50PM
The WHI, a lifelong Democrat, is working behind the scenes to bring down the Obama regime. He understands full well that Obama and his minions are not Democrats, they are Communists.
Who Knows?| 8.14.12 @ 11:59AM
You can forget ALL the pundits.
If ever there was a time when “You are never in danger of knowing a single thing” was true, this is it.
Let’s face another ubiquitous human fact---there’s NOT much “humble” running around. Oh, how few exist who let facts speak for themselves, instead of OPINING “about” them? Wannabe pundits are us!
I earned a BA and an MA in mathematics---I built that! I WAS smarter and worked harder than most; but I wasn’t smart enough to understand the highest math, much to my chagrin, and gain a PhD.
So what?
And---most people nowadays NEVER need to use ANY math, even me. When is the last time you had to add something up, without a calculator?
Believe it or not, in the 60’s when I worked in my dad’s meat market, we’d weigh each product, look at the scale’s price, write it on one package, and add them all up. Only “dumb” Red, who never learned to add, had to enter each price, slowly, into the cash register, and get the total.
Yes---voters are dumbed down, AND yet they’ll “get” Ryan and Romney, as well as Obama.
Who Knows?| 8.14.12 @ 12:38PM
Here’s something to ponder concerning vice presidential picks---
Did Obama choose Biden for the same reason Romney did Ryan? To ask is to answer.
Can anyone seriously imagine Obama taking Ol’ Joe in earnest, regarding ANYTHING?
Then there’s Romney and Ryan. If ever there were a de facto “co-presidency”, here it is.
Peas in a pod---each will enhance the other, and my take is that all that Ryan stands for, his history, his mentors, et al, are buttressing Romney, big time. And, we ain’t seen nothing, yet!
Life all comes down to having an open mind, so one can observe to the max, truly understand, and transcend---whatever the dimension.
Romney & Ryan are exploding the American mind OPEN, and right now a massive amount of observing of the REAL truth is going on. Leftists are being undressed, in public---and, it ain’t pretty.
But, it DOES lead to understanding---aha, that’s what’s going on!
And, 12 weeks of this observe-understand teaching by R & R CAN result in enough transcending—and votes, for REAL change.
George True| 8.14.12 @ 12:55PM
Well said, Dr Who.
Third Army| 8.14.12 @ 12:43PM
My husband has been either underemployed or unemployed for at least six years. I am hoping and praying that in November there will be some change in our lives.
Von Mises Jr| 8.14.12 @ 1:43PM
Washington said that government is not eloquence, but force. The leftist/socialist progressives and liberals wish to use this force to expropriate money they are too untalented to earn or for power they could not gain in the competitive market.
Hayek in "Road to Serfdom" stressed that central planning necessarily MUST pick winners and losers. These people wish to make productive people losers while picking themselves and their friends as the winners.
And they have the gall to call it "compassion" and "benevolence" to boot that is like salt in the wound.
Oldefarte| 8.14.12 @ 1:49PM
Jeffrey's editorial is a great historical piece, but simply put, this is [and always has been] a question of what government should be. The original founders obviously had no conception of welfare being provided to indigents, and sadly government has been selfishly manipulated into same historically. Why should there be a reguired need for cradle-to-grave welfare? Certainly for same temporally, but not permanent. All welfare was originally stated by politicians/government as being the former, but in reality selfishly turned into the latter. Democrats have made a political [and financial] living off of the Robin Hood Syndome of ROBBING FROM THE RICH [IE THOSE WITH INCOME] TO GIVE TO THE POOR [IE INDIGENTS]; and these Democrats purposely provide more and more of same in order to become the benefactor of government benefits to these indigents in return for their votes at election time. The ultimate QUID-PRO-QUOISM! Republicans alternatively have been the Constitutional guardians or the opposites of Democrats [they spend money on military matters which is Constitutional in nature]. It's a war, with indigents wanting to elect Democrats, while taxpayers want to elect Republicans; and if the latter can somehow convince the indigents that they CAN become EDUCATED and TAXPAYERS also, and cease being INDIGENTS and WELFARE RECIPIENTS, this country will thereafter begin to improve and prosper economically and morally!!!!!!!
Mimi | 8.14.12 @ 2:29PM
As it is said....If you want less of something TAX it. Keep the taxes coming Dem's and they all leave town.!!!
It is said....if you want MORE revenues ( MONIES) TAX it less!
The paradox is not understood by LIBS !
Gosh I wish we could see "O"s school and college records. He runs the country like an Elementary school kid.....Did he ever take Elementary Algebra? He's calculating....Did he ever take Calculus?? Why doesn't just some of them get it!
obadiah| 8.14.12 @ 3:02PM
Here's why Ryan choice pleases the left: he's a corrupt incompetent politician who is no better than Biden. He talks like he's something else. So he will be easy to deflate and knock down.
Seek| 8.14.12 @ 4:48PM
If Ryan really frightened the Left -- which he doesn't -- he'd talk about drastically reducing Third World immigration. But because he's a supply-side Rainbow Guy, Jack Kemp redux, he's not going to even hint at that. Then again, if he did, Romney wouldn't have selected him as a running mate.
JD| 8.14.12 @ 5:08PM
The need for border restriction is directly proportional to the size of our social welfare entitlements. Other than security risk, third-world immigrants would do us no harm at all if they weren't adding to the number of entitled people in this country.
Seek| 8.15.12 @ 5:17PM
Third World immigrants do us harm if they can't assimilate, whether or not they become public assistance cases or pose security risks. And yes, race does matter. I don't feel like whites becoming a minority in this country by the year 2042, which is what the Census Bureau has projected.
Mass immigration necessarily changes the character of a country, and rarely for the better. We're no excpetion. Not to worry, JD: Romney and Ryan aren't going to address this issue.
Drunken Sailor| 8.14.12 @ 5:01PM
You want to know how good of a pick Ryan is? Scan the comments and notice how many trolls are hammering him.
Queston trolls, if he is such a bad choice, why are you upset?
I think you protest to much and it is pretty obvious.
TeaPartyNow| 8.14.12 @ 5:14PM
I bet that you know absolutely nothing about romney and ryans records. You think you are so smart sticking with the swooning right without a mind. But if you ever get sober, and write this down because you will forget, ask yourself why the whole of the right hides the records of both romney and ryan. Because they know that thses guys are corrupt, but they just want their side to win, even if America has to go away completely for it. The right wing media isn't helping the American People anymore. There is more lies, conjecture and hate in the right today, than in the left. Now write that question down. Who knows, maybe your moms' social security check won't come, and you won't be able to buy your rum.
Boar Hunter| 8.14.12 @ 5:46PM
All thats required is to watch the 6 minute clip of Ryan making Obama go all pouty face over Obamacare and the budget to see why they are in fact terrified of Ryan.
TeaPartyNow| 8.14.12 @ 5:09PM
I gave up trying to find facts after the fifth page of conjecture. Sorry, I am sure that you were going to talk about ryan somewhere, but not in any factual way. If you want him to win, why not try facts about him. Specifically his voting record. And where was he last year when boehner caved to the left on everything under the sun?
You expect us to eat up anything you throw out, but if you can't keep to facts, then just shut the h- up!
clemsberry| 8.14.12 @ 10:19PM
this is an aticle about what led up to ryan. why they are afraid of him. there are plenty of stuff to read about him.
clemsberry| 8.14.12 @ 10:07PM
great article. thank you. jeff. one question /point i would like to bring up........how many of the richest americans total worth would it take to pay down the national debt? if we had one of the 3 network news organizations, that would really help. i got 10 bucks towards it.thanks mike.
ReaganConservative| 8.15.12 @ 1:29AM
I absolutely love reading Mr Jeffrey Lords's articles. They are articulate, concise, and perfectly written. Everything in this article is true and accurate.
I just wish that Paul Ryan was the US Presidential Nominee, not just the VP selectee. But, for now, this will have to do.
This is my concern- Romney is NO Ronald Reagan. Romney stated himself he was independent, and did not want to return to Reagan policies.
That is not a good sign, but is an ominous signal of concern, because Romney is the part of the good ol boy GOP RINO establishment opposition to Ronald Reagan Conservatism.
Romney is a Mass Progressive GOP establishment RINO who subscribes to progressive GOP RINO policies.
Ronald Reagan would never have created, let alone implemented a Ted Kennedy collaborated force mandated State Socialized Medicine program law called Romneycare, the precursor to Obama's Obamacare.
But he did make Ryan his VP, which I do give him credit for. Whatever reason they may be for picking Ryan as his VP, which Romney knows he cannot win without Reagan Conservative Tea Party support, he at least gives all Reagan Tea Party conservatives some glimmer of hope for the future of America as a US Constitutional Free Market Capitalist Republic.
soldiermom11| 8.16.12 @ 1:08PM
Unworkable and dangerous...that pretty much describes the Obama plan. Anybody see Dishonorable Disclosures - YouTube today? Obama sold these guys out to Hollywood for votes.
Timely Renewed | 8.18.12 @ 2:28PM
The challenge is to communicate this message - that leftist government is about centralizing government power for the benefit of the bureaucrat regulatory class and not helping people, and rather the best way to help people is to push power away from the central government toward local government or eliminating government power altogether. One powerful way to both accomplish this and to communicate this philosophy would be to promote a reform of the constitutional amendment process to enable states to initiate and enact amendments without having to go through either Congress or the untried and unworkable mechanism of a convention. This would open the path to such decentralizing reforms as balanced budget and term limits amendments and others to restore the original constitutional limits on federal power. See http://www.timelyrenewed.com