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A Further Perspective
The Great Rediscovery of American Values
Cruz in Texas, Walker in Wisconsin, Romney on Palestine and Poland.
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Last but not least in all this was Herbert Croly. Writer Siegel calls Croly and his fellow progressives “America’s Bismarcks.” “To achieve a better future,” said Croly, Americans had to be “emancipate[d] from their past.” Which is to say the American founding principles as put forth in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution should be jettisoned in favor of a Bismarckian-style nation “placed under skilled professional leadership” with other “special lines of work… subordinated to its particular place in a comprehensive scheme of national economy.”
The latter, of course, is precisely the thinking behind both Obamacare and the Obama stimulus.
The shorthand here, politically speaking?
Progressivism now stands in the historical dock as a foreign faith — a decidedly non-American (or, if you like, un-American) belief system. After 111 years of progressivism, with America now awash in the inevitable results of massive debt and obsessive government interference in every crack and crevice of American life — with Obamacare looming — the country is in open rebellion. A rebellion that is specifically about the “great rediscovery” of American values — precisely as Ronald Reagan suggested.
The political impact of this is easy to see — and the Obamaites see it all too clearly. Hence the ferocity and or impulsive stupidity of their attacks on Romney for Bain or his dog or his wife’s horse and so on.
Ted Cruz won the Republican nomination for Senator in Texas because Texas Republicans have had it with a GOP Establishment that was acceding to what they understand instinctively are the decidedly foreign values of the progressive movement. Values that have no relationship to the founding principles of America.
The Obama media is trying to make Mitt Romney into a gaffe-prone idiot because they understand in spades that his message on the culture of free markets in Israel is in fact a threat to the socialist culture that has combined with a messianic violence in not only Palestine but throughout the Arab world. Mr. Romney has wisely and bluntly spoken the truth about Palestine’s real culture and it has nothing to do with being Palestinian. (He also correctly called Jerusalem the capital of Israel — a decidedly unpopular truth with progressives.)
And American progressives certainly have no tolerance for former Polish President Lech Walesa — a onetime union leader who was famously a Reagan ally — giving Polish kudos to Romney. Kudos? Walesa, who invited Romney to Poland, essentially endorsed the Republican. Running as far away from the American progressive values that for decades acquiesced in his country’s submission to the Soviet Union.
Said Lech to Mitt:
I wish you to be successful because the success is needed to the United States, of course, but to Europe as well and to the rest of the world, too. So, Gov. Romney, get your success, be successful.
Catch that?
Again: “I wish you to be successful because the success is needed to the United States, of course, but to Europe as well and to the rest of the world….”
Which is to say, Lech Walesa believes American values…..the values Ronald Reagan hailed when he spoke of his time in office as a “great rediscovery” of American values….are necessary for the success of Europe and the rest of the world.
What’s happening in America — whether in 2012 in Texas with Ted Cruz, Wisconsin with Scott Walker, Israel and Poland with Mitt Romney, or 2010 in the GOP landslide — is an open rebellion against 111 years of progressive politics. A furious revolt against the deliberate injection of decidedly non-American values into the body politic.
Americans are insisting on the “great rediscovery” of American values that were central to the success of the Reagan presidency. Not to mention the values that were at the core of America’s founding itself.
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Jeffrey Lord is a former Reagan White House political director and author. He writes from Pennsylvania at jlpa1@aol.com.
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Jack in Wi| 8.2.12 @ 6:26AM
What a pile of hooey. Scott Walker and Ted Cruz are positive deveopments for conservatives. I worked as hard for Scott Walker as anyone. Romney going to Israel and Poland and making a fool of himself was nothing but bad news for consevatives. He is letting a lot of incompetent and lunatic neoconservatives run his foreign policy, up to this time. Of course if he ever got elected I wouldn't expect him to attack Iran or move the embassy to Tel Aviv. The Bush's and Obama didn't and Romney, no matter what I think of him, isn't going to either. It would destroy the world economy and be the death knell of the old line Republicans. On top of that after kissing the rear end of a filth like Adelson and Netanyahu, he promises to consider letting Pollard go. What's he going to do next, apologize for the USS Liberty? Romney is turning out just like I predicted way over his head. The country is sick of wars and warmongers. Romney is giving Obama the Chance to run as the peace candidadte again. McCain for all his insanity had some litttle credibility on foreign policy, Romney is miles over his head. If this campaign doesn't shape up by Labor Day look out.
PolishKnight| 8.2.12 @ 9:40AM
Perhaps others are ignoring you because they view you as a troll, but I'm curious. How was Romney going to Poland negative in any way? While many Poles are not big fans of Lech Walesa, none of them I know will view it in a negative light. In addition, him simply going there has been viewed by the left as so successful that they view it as pandering to whites. If only conservatives pandered to their base just a fraction of the times they pandered to Democrat special interest groups...
benny havens| 8.2.12 @ 11:21AM
I mean no disrespect, but your post makes absolutely no sense. “If only conservatives pandered to their base”
Conservatives are the base. What you meant to say was if Republicans like George H. W. Bush & George W. Bush, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins or Mitt Romney pandered to their base, you would be correct.
These Republicans are not conservatives. Real conservatives are not interested in reaching across the aisle to accept some progressive propaganda. That is why we are $15 trillion in debt.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 12:34PM
This Jack in Wi is obviously in the liberal persuasion because he called Netanyahu filth. Other than that, any fool can see that romneys trip abroad was supposed to fire up the conservative base. When they have a liberal nominee like romney, they have to take him out of America before he can even approach being conservative.
But wait, he'll give all of our money to his buddies who are rich, & that is the end of all of our problems in America, or so the right would have you believe...
Mitt Romney signed in the government take over of the health care industry & gay marriage. Is that what all conservatives believe in today? The American right is more broken than the left, because it has no spine.
PolishKnight| 8.2.12 @ 12:58PM
Something to keep in mind folks: The government has taken over the healthcare industry for some time via mandates that require employers to provide subsidized health insurance for employees, the FDA, and licensing requirements via a monopoly (the AMA).
Regarding gay marriage: I really don't care. Sorry. There are bigger fish to fry and I could care less when I'm filling up my car with 3 and a half buck gasoline. Conservatives allowed marriage to die 50 years ago when they allowed divorce courts to reward women for taking children (or having them out of wedlock) out of marriage and getting a prize via child-support and supporting equal rights for women in the workplace. There is now little reason for many women to marry when they face losing money rather than gaining it. It's rather funny that gays are probably shooting themselves in the foot wanting to join the club.
PolishKnight| 8.2.12 @ 12:58PM
Something to keep in mind folks: The government has taken over the healthcare industry for some time via mandates that require employers to provide subsidized health insurance for employees, the FDA, and licensing requirements via a monopoly (the AMA).
Regarding gay marriage: I really don't care. Sorry. There are bigger fish to fry and I could care less when I'm filling up my car with 3 and a half buck gasoline. Conservatives allowed marriage to die 50 years ago when they allowed divorce courts to reward women for taking children (or having them out of wedlock) out of marriage and getting a prize via child-support and supporting equal rights for women in the workplace. There is now little reason for many women to marry when they face losing money rather than gaining it. It's rather funny that gays are probably shooting themselves in the foot wanting to join the club.
Jack in Wi| 8.2.12 @ 3:29PM
Your a moron. Learn how to read. I said I was big supporter of Scott Walker and thought the Cruz victory was good news. That means I am a real consevative and have been my whole life going back to Goldwater and before that even before that. I don't want Obama re-elected and would like some reason to vote for Romney. Going to Israel to Kow Tow to filth like Netanyahu is not the way to do that. There are also at least 3 million Arab Christians in this country and maybe as many Muslims. Bush got a significant number of those votes in 2000. Romney with his insulting comments toward the Palistinians turned a lot of them more hostile. Obama has the pleasant prospect of gettin huge majorities of both Jews and Muslims in this country. The vast majority of Jews in this country are liberals who want nothing to do with crazed Neocons around Romney. I know a lot of Jews and I never met one that wanted any of these wars.
soljerblue| 8.2.12 @ 3:48PM
"filth like Netanyahu'???
so, on top of everything else, jack, you're an anti-Semite?
vtwin| 8.2.12 @ 5:15PM
You can't criticize Netanyahu unless your an "anti-Semite?"
Nick| 8.3.12 @ 12:35AM
No, vtwit, when you LIE about Prime Minister Netanyahu you're an anti-Semite.
Jack in Wi| 8.2.12 @ 7:01PM
I just read that in the Israeli daily Haaretz that Israel is bulding a large outdoor concentration camp for 30,000 African refugees. That can be added to the largest outdoor walled concentration camp in Gaza and the walled concentration camps that is the West Bank. Hitler would be proud.
chuck| 8.2.12 @ 8:23PM
Still haven't eaten a bullet? I'll be glad to send you one. It will definitely improve your outlook.
George666| 8.2.12 @ 10:23PM
Obviously you are an anti-semitic jerk. Israel has been under attack since the time of its founding. They have been remarkably restrained in their reaction to the Arab provocations. Personally, I think they should give the so-called Palestinians their own homeland 100 mi west of Haifa (for those of you in Rio Linda, that's out in the Mediterranian). Imagine that Canada were sending rockets into NY or Detroit—what would our reaction be? I don't think we'd have much simpathy for those "poor Canuks." Fortunately, our relations with Canada have traditionally been good so we don't face what Israel faces.
Jack in Wi| 8.3.12 @ 12:46AM
You mean Israel has attacked everyone since the time of it's founding. The only time it really was not the agrssor in a war was when Egypt tried to take back the Sinai in 1973. Iran has not attacked anyone in 300 years, has no nuclear weapons, and is under constant international inspection.Why do Americans care about Iran? Why do Israeli's even care about Iran? It is this insane desire to dominate. Get over it and make peace.
Nick| 8.3.12 @ 9:20AM
Iran has been attacking Israel by proxy, through the terrorist groups Hezbollah and Hamas, for three decades, Jackboot.
Pelleas| 8.3.12 @ 1:04PM
As a native Israeli citizen, I can't believe I'm actually AGREEING WITH Jack, on this --the one and only time I probably ever will...
Netanyahu is actually much worse than filth--- he is probably the absolute WORST Prime Minister ( well--Sharon was a close second) that Israel has ever had....
PolishKnight| 8.2.12 @ 12:54PM
Valid semantic point, Benny. Even so, especially considering what you said, there is a distinction between the "conservative" base and the _electoral_ base for conservatives. Many conservatives think the core issues that get "conservatives" out of bed to the polls are gay marriage, keeping those tax cuts in place, and going after abortion. But the reality is that there are a lot of other issues that would get the conservative base out to the polls in droves and even Reagan didn't take advantage of them such as the marriage penalty and affirmative action. In other words, these policies wouldn't just be about an abstract ideological stance but rather about helping the base voters themselves.
Most of what the left does nowadays goes counter to their Marxist ideology: importing illegals allowing wages to fall, making the USA into a third world banana republic, crony capitalist alliances with Goldman Sachs but it's clear that the left doesn't really care about that ideology after all. They just care about winning at all costs even if they don't know what they're trying to win.
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 3:49PM
As long as the Government doesn't try and MANDATE that Churches perform the Ceremony?
Who cares if these idiots get "Married".
If Brooksblacknegrohomo wants to tie the knot with RCV?
I'm all for it.
As far as I can tell?
They were made for each other.
"If it doesn't pick my pocket, or break my bones? What does it matter to me?"
Indeed.
Hat Tip - Glenn Beck.
Stephanie| 8.2.12 @ 12:42PM
I think a better question Polish Knight would be,
"Jack, where the hell do you get your news?"
soljerblue| 8.2.12 @ 3:50PM
I think Jack must have an old crystal set stuck up the same orifice where his head is.
Controse| 8.2.12 @ 2:46PM
So you're voting for Obama, or whoever he is? If not what is your point? Oh wait. Could it be you have an assignment to discourage as many anti-Obama voters as possible. Reading between your lines one comes to understand the message is "Why bother guys? Just stay home on election day. You've got better things to do."
Jack in Wi| 8.2.12 @ 6:39AM
Correction: Move the embassy to Jerusalem, without a peace settlement. Reagan never would have gone to Israel and butted his head against the Wailing Wall built by the mass murderer King Herod, who was of Arab ethnic extraction. He wrote specifically in his memoirs how going into the Lebanon was the among his biggest regrets. He got out as soon as possible when he saw the mess of it. He advised Americans to keep out of the Middle East and have a more even handed foreign policy.
Kwan| 8.2.12 @ 7:28AM
So in conclusion Jack due to the fact that Romney doesn't measure up to your high standards of conservatism you'll be voting for Biden and his running mate I must assume.
Sean| 8.2.12 @ 8:29AM
You know there are other alternatives to both Romney and Obama. Just because the Republican party nominated a liberal who invented the forerunner to Obamacare doesn't mean we have to vote for them.
Kwan| 8.2.12 @ 8:46AM
Of course if you're not happy with the Republican or Democrat candidates on the ballot you can always write-in your selection, but unfortunately write-in candidates tend to crash and burn and will ultimately reelect Obama. That's not what you and me want right?
Sean| 8.2.12 @ 9:20AM
I don't want Obama elected and increasingly don't want Romney elected either. So as of now I am going to vote for someone. The final nail will be when Romney picks a dud for his VP. I expect a TARP supporter or illegal immigrant promoter to be his VP running mate.
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 9:50AM
And, you wonder why the Country's all Fckd Up?
Just write in the name of your Therapist.
Not the one who's Molesting you.
The other one.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 12:41PM
The latter is his pick, Marco "everyone come on in the welfare is free" Rubio. That's my guess.
Funny how the spinelessness in the right thinks its so smart by insulting the few of us who still stand up for real traditional values. I am trying to get Santorum to step up when romney drops the ball at the convention.
The right thinks that the American People are too stupid to see behind it's smoke & mirrors. The left & right are both dog & pony shows will only harm for our future in their hands. We need a Tea Party, & we need a conservative.
Mitt Romney also signed in Gay Marriage by the way, he believes in those kind of values.
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 1:37PM
Gay marriage in Mass was at the order of the State Supreme Court. No signature there.
Considering the abundance of error/falsehood of this sort in the remainder of your post, I'll have to assume you're trolling.
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 4:00PM
Stop confusing him with FACTS.
He doesn't like that.
Kwan| 8.2.12 @ 2:00PM
That's the kind of thinking Einstein that will get Obama reelected. Goal #1 is to get rid of Obama. Then we can get rid of the RINO's. Deal with your biggest problem first unless you don't really think Obama is a problem.
Drunken Sailor| 8.2.12 @ 2:47PM
Kwan,
Don't even bother, all of his post are the same. He is a 3rd party supporter and from reading his syntax english may not be his first languge so maybe not even a US citizen, though I could be wrong on that count.
loulou| 8.2.12 @ 10:30AM
Ignore the trolls.
Jacksh*t is a Muslim at best.
DarkMan| 8.2.12 @ 8:38AM
Jooooossss, Jooooosss Jack... that's what it's all about, right?
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 12:49PM
Listen, you are not going to get allot of respect here when you start of saying that Netanyahu is filth. Do you have any idea what happened to the Jewish people durring the Holocaust? The Germans wrote laws making it legal to take their belongings, kill them, work them as slaves, & them commit genocide against them, while indoctrinating the German People in fascist ideology. The Jews who survived, finally got a nation after all of this. & now it has to deal with terrorists, & people like you who take the lefts word for everything & don't care who you hurt.
I can see that you have some genuine concern for Americas' future, but expecting the right to side with the left is something that only Mitt Romney can do. Don't stop talking, & ignore the idiots who have nothing intelligent to say. Try to learn the truth. Both sides are bad right now. The right is worse because of romney, but both are bad. I thank you for being a true American, & speaking your mind, & try to understand that these are happy days for few. & frustrated days for most.
Jack in Wi| 8.2.12 @ 3:18PM
Netanyahu is filth who treats half the population under his control worse then the blacks were treated in the USA during segregation. He also treats them worse then the South African whites did blacks during Apartheid. He treats them worse then Hitler treaed the Jews up until 1938. How about treating the Palistinians like the Jews always wanted to be treated, fairly? He also is pushing the world toward a possible 3rd world war for absolutly no sane reason. He wants American bombs to do his dirty work and war crimes. Everyone knows Israel will never attack Iran by itself. If it was going to do it it would done it like Begin did in Iraq in 1981. The Israeli's have been palying this game since the 90's. In effect they are trying to pressure a pack of American politicians to do their dirty work. So far they haven't succeeded. Lets hope they never do.
As for the Holocaust, that was over 67 years ago. 50 or 60 million people have been killed by their governments since then. Israel is continuely threatening to blow up millions. It has to stop. Sane Jews better take over soon.
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 4:09PM
Yeah, he treats the Palestinians IN ISRAEL, so bad.
They can Vote.
They have Representation in the Israeli Kinneset - Parliment.
They're FREE to Worship, any way they like.
And, when they're Polled?
They Overwhelmingly tell the Pollsters that they'd rather live in Israel, WHERE THEY'RE FREE TO LIVE THEIR LIVES, than in the Hell on Earth, that is the Palestinian West Bank, and Gaza Strip.
Period.
Exclamation Point!
Now STFU about the Jews, already.
Stkman| 8.2.12 @ 4:20PM
Jack in Wi,
You've been to Isreal and witnessed this yourself?
Instead of jumping all over the Isreali's, that's what they are because not all of them are Jews, why don't you jump on the Arabs? The Arabs, those fine loving Muslims who refuse to help the Palestinians. How about the Syrians, they refused to help them. The Jordanians had to make them leave befire they destroyed that country. Look at what they've done to Lebanon. Beautiful Lebanon. A country who for hundreds of years had either a Muslim President and Christain mayor and vice versa to keep the peace. Then came the Palestinians. Jack, you are an anti semite. As much as I dislike many things about muslims, I don't hate them like you hate Jews. By the way Jack, those liberals in the NE United States who call themselves Jews, they aren't Jews. They just like to say they are. Real Jews stick togather and help each other out, and thats why they've been hated for centuries, because they take care of their own. Wheras your Arab and Palestinian friends are so tribal in nature they'll bee killing each other til the end of time.
Nick| 8.2.12 @ 6:07PM
"Netanyahu is filth"
Way to obey Christ's command to love thy neighbor as thyself, Jackboot. But, good job praising your hero, Adolph, yet again.
Remember, Jesus, Mary, and Joseph were all Jooooooos!
Jack in Wi| 8.2.12 @ 6:47PM
God in the Book Of Leviticus tells the Jews to. " Love their neighbors as themselves." He also says in that Book. " To treat the aliens among you as you do yourselves. " In the book of Exodus God tells his Jewish subjects. " To treat the aliens and strangers among you well for you were once aliens and strangers in the land of Egypt. " Jesus when he says " Love your neighbor as yourselves" is quoting these books. God wants us to live in peace with each other. In traditional Jewish thinking Jews were commanded to follow these Torah laws, and treated them with great respect.. The world would be a lot better place, if we all did.
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 7:17PM
Last I looked, Jack.
The Israelis weren't firing Thousands of Rockets, INDISRIMINATELY, in to Palestinian Neighborhoods.
Nick| 8.2.12 @ 7:40PM
God, in the book of Numbers & Deuteronomy tells the Israelites to put the tribes of Caanan under the ban of haram warfare, Jackboot.
God gave the Hebrews the right to defend themselves, Einstein.
Also, the Gazan & West Bank Arabs are not sojourners in the Promised Land. They are a conquered people. If the Arabs would stop indiscriminately killing Israelis, there would be peace.
Anti-Semitic dope.
Boar Hunter| 8.2.12 @ 7:52PM
I am so happy to know that you are personally invoking God's curse on anyone who curses his people.
Judge not lest you be judged, hypocrite, pull the plank from your own eye.
Nick| 8.2.12 @ 8:24PM
Are those remarks addressed to your's truly, Boar?
John786| 8.2.12 @ 7:31AM
Let me get this right: neoconservative/ tea party /rapturers utopia is to cut all spending ( entitlements, education, energy etc..) on American citizens and instead channel it towards endless wars ( not payed for) and supporting foreign countries. And this is meant to be a recipe for success. Does this capture the right in America- Am I missing something.
Pecos Pete| 8.2.12 @ 8:20AM
You are missing an essential thought ... it is called freedom.
vtwin| 8.2.12 @ 12:32PM
No, you are missing an essential thought, freedom is not free it is bought with blood and treasure. But don’t look to Romney or any of his five sons, they are not going to sacrifice for freedom in a uniform or by paying taxes.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 2:24PM
They have given far more than you ever will, both in taxes paid and in sacrificed income opportunity through holding office.
vtwin| 8.2.12 @ 3:57PM
Romney refuses to release his tax returns so how do you know what Romney’s income was when he was held public office or how much he paid in taxes? Harry Reid said one the Floor U.S. Senate that one of Romney’s minions at Pain Capital told him Romney didn’t pay any federal income taxes for at least 10 years.
http://www.latimes.com/news/po.....6108.story
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 4:19PM
Really?
What is that person's name?
How does he have any information, pertaining to Governor Romney's Taxes?
Does he know that it's a FELONY to release somebody else's Tax Information?
And, how did Harry Ried pocket $1.5 Million, on a piece of Property, that he hadn't owned for THREE YEARS?
Why don't you answer that one, and then, maybe, we can talk about Unfounded Accusations from Senator $1.5 Million, from Property that he didn't own for THREE YEARS.
Okay?
vtwin| 8.2.12 @ 4:53PM
Hear! Hear!
Harry Reid should tell us this “person’s name,” and this “person” should tell us what he knows about Romney’s taxes and the law concerning someone else’s taxes and if Harry gots some explaining to do about $1.5 million let’s hear it.
I’m down with full discloser!
How about you? Do want to see Romney’s tax returns or are you satisfied with the (R) after his name?
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 5:14PM
When Harry Ried gives us FULL DISCLOSURE, and Obama, who had Judges in Chicago, UNSEAL his Political Opponents SEALED DOCUMENTS, unseals HIS SEALED DOCUMENTS, then we'll talk.
Deal?
vtwin| 8.2.12 @ 5:27PM
So both Reid and Obama have to dance before you can decide if you want to see Romney’s tax return?
I guess I’ll never understand the logic of a conservative.
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 7:20PM
You understand it.
It's called: FAIRNESS.
You show me YOURS?
I'll show you MINE.
What could be Fairer, than that?
kbs55| 8.3.12 @ 5:04PM
Harry's informant is named Jim Beam on the rocks.
MK48| 8.2.12 @ 9:26PM
VTWIN.........does the V stand for vagina are you a twin girl ?
Reid is full of sh*t no name just accusations.
Rush today said he got a phone call and he hates answering the real phone and the caller said he went to college with the black jesus and knew for sure that hussian had the worst grades and the teachers covered up for him. The grades were the worst of any student that had ever attended Harvard. In fact the college ask "the one" to leave.
Put that in your V..............
Bob James| 8.2.12 @ 11:24PM
vtwin, you are a scurrilous blackguard and a poltroon.
This "story" is nothing short of actionable slander, by one of the highest ranking rats of the socialist-democratic party. Harry is a mouth-breathing, drooling victim of senile dementia. To even suggest that some anonymous "investor" at Bain would have the slightest idea of what Romney's tax returns contain is simply beyond ludicrous.
Okay, so when the Chosen One (PBUH) (that's a joke, vtwin, I know that Zero doesn't believe in any power higher than himself) releases his college transcripts, his law review articles, etc., etc., then maybe, just maybe, you leftist termites can ask - not demand - ask Mittens to release his tax returns.
Just another attempt to distract the folks from the utter disaster which is the Maobama fiasco. Transformative, indeed.
Feh. Away with you.
CJW| 8.2.12 @ 3:43PM
You voted for Bubba, a draft dodger, and where did Obama and Biden serve?
You are desperate, approaching purp-world.
vtwin| 8.2.12 @ 4:03PM
Yes, I voted for Clinton and you are welcome. I don’t think either Obama or Biden server in our military but I know they paid taxes because that released their tax returns. But I’m not sure if Romney paid any taxes at all prior to his run for the presidency.
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 4:25PM
You're avoiding the question.
You besmirched Romney, and his Sons, for Not Serving.
Did THE RAPIST or THE MUSLIM, serve in the Military, or NOT?
STFU until you can answer a bone fide Question.
Did your Ccksckr Democrat Heroes SERVE IN THE MILITARY?
Nobody asked you if they Paid Taxes.
God, you're annoying.
Grow Up!
vtwin| 8.2.12 @ 5:12PM
I didn’t “besmirched Romney… for Not Serving.” I besmirched Romney, for his unwillingness to sacrifice either blood or treasure on the “alter of freedom.”
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 5:19PM
SPIN will get you nowhere with me, idiot.
I know what you said.
Answer the question.
Did THE RAPIST and THE MUSLIM, serve in the Military?
And, if they didn't (and they didn't) why is it SO IMPORTANT that Romney's Family didn't?
Like I said, before.
GROW UP!
MK48| 8.2.12 @ 9:32PM
Vagi*a twin did you serve ?
What blood or treasure do you have in the game of life ?
Stkman| 8.2.12 @ 4:25PM
What business are his or any one esles taxes to you. What you should care about is how can he help the country? What can he do to bring back some fiscal sanity in Washington? Your worried about his tax returns when that jerk in the White House has refused to let anyone se his long form birth certificate or even his college records. Get your priorities straight man.
vtwin| 8.2.12 @ 4:42PM
IF Romney wants to “help the country” he should start by paying income taxes like the rest of us.
Unless you referring to the long form in his pants, I’ve seen his “long form birth certificate.” And if you calling for Obama to release his college records, I agree Obama should release these records.
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 5:24PM
He paid his Taxes.
Do you honestly believe that it would take a Make Believe Guy, from Harry Ried's Imagination, to bring this to light?
He's Mister Clean.
He's never been associated with anyone, even remotely like Tony Rezko, Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Louis Farrakhan, or Khalid Rashidi.
Unlike, your Boy.
You're starting to be A JOKE.
vtwin| 8.2.12 @ 5:51PM
Mitt Romney reminds me of Al Pacino character in the movie The Devil Advocate, Satan; Romney will conjures up any image of himself he thinks you want to you see so as to further his own agenda.
CJW| 8.2.12 @ 4:43PM
The tax returns released show Mitt gave over 3 million to charity and paid 3 million in capital gains taxes.
Remember the Clintons deducted the cost of their donated shirts, t-shirts for a few hundred dollars? Remeber Algore and Biden donating a couple hundred dollars to charity?
Mitt has earned his money and paid the taxes. Obama and Michelle have been vacationing on our tax dollars in Spain, Hawaii, and Martha's Vineyard.
Maybe you can explain, since Purpie refuses, how did Michelle get a raise from $100,000 per year as a "community relations attorney" to $350,000 per year from the Chicago hospital after it received a million dollar earmark courtesy of Senator Obama? Will Obama release these records?
Can you explain how and why Chicago felon Rezko paid for Obama's property? Will Obama release these records?
Can you explain how Hillary "made"$100,000 from a $1,000 investment in cattle futures?
Can you explain how and why Bubba got a million dollar contribution to his "library" from Mrs. Reich after he pardoned the convicted fugitive Marc Reich?
I hope you have better answers than purpie.
vtwin| 8.2.12 @ 5:03PM
You mean tax return not “tax returns” because Romney has only released one tax return. I don’t know the answers to any of your questions, except maybe the last one; well I have a good guess. And I have a good guess as to why Romney does want us to see anymore of his tax returns. See comment above.
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 5:28PM
When I see Obama's Passport, his Medical Records, his College Scholarship Paperwork, his College Entrance Paperwork, his College Thesis, and he explains how he has a CONNECTICUT Social Security Number?
Then I'll ask Romney for his Tax Returns.
Capiche?
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 7:24PM
I notice you went away.
I'm not surprised.
kbs55| 8.3.12 @ 5:11PM
With the Obama administration, if the IRS could find anything wrong with Romney's tax returns, it would be front-page news. Since they are using innuendo and false arguments it means they have nothing.
Aristocat| 8.2.12 @ 8:26AM
No, neo-cons and tea party folks are polar opposites....Neo-cons are Bushies who want endless Middle-East wars...Tea Party Patriots want to reign in the out-of-control federal govt.
Sean| 8.2.12 @ 8:31AM
I wish that was true. Occasionally the Tea Party will vote for a conservative, but many times they will also back a necon over a fiscal conservative.
TW in SC| 8.2.12 @ 11:00AM
The mechanism is as not as simple as all that. Unfortunately, the Tea Party will have no other option but to vote for a RINO because they are the lesser of two evils. If Obama was running against, say, Satan, himself I would be forced to vote for Obama. See? It would make my head explode but I'd do it just to keep a slower path to hell, knowing full-well the road it takes.
It's more like knowing you've missed your exit on the freeway but you can't stop and turn around as you would on a county road...you have to wait for another exit and though it may take you through a bad neighborhood, you can eventually get back on track.
So Romney...lesser of an evil than Obama, I will vote for Romney. I would prefer a more conservative candidate but the damned republican party, in their baby-boomer "cool kid" omniscience, have decided to put another nice-haircut, appears-to-be-a-good-magazine-cover-but-really-has-some-credibility-and-it's-his-turn-anyhow type of candidate rather than a dyed-in-the-wool fighter who really WILL tell the national socialists to go screw themselves.
So as a constitutionalist conservative I have to go with Romney because my guy didn't get put up there. Going rogue and pushing a third party is even more self-defeating so I will have to hope that more conservative candidates will come in the future and eventually win the day.
Drunken Sailor| 8.2.12 @ 11:05AM
You totally get it. To bad we haven't been able to pound that into some of the conservatives that visit this site.
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 9:18AM
Are you missing something?
Do you even bother to Read what you scribble down?
Rapturers Utopia? Cut all the Spending (Entitlements, Education, Energy, ect.) Endless Wars and supporting Foreign Countries?
You begin by Insulting People of Faith. The same people who have been Helping the Poor, for 2 Millennia. You, obviously, want to keep SPENDING MORE MONEY, even though you know that THERE IS MO MORE MONEY.
Entitlements? What happened to all of the Hundreds of Billion$ that SHOULD be in Social Security, right now?
Is it in the Bank?
Is it in a Lock Box?
No. It was STOLEN. It was STOLEN by the very same people that you can't wait to have Running your Health Care Apparatus, from the Day your Born, til the Day they take that picture of you, wearing that Dumbstruck Look on your face, when they give you that Pain Pill, instead of the TRANSPLANT that you so desperately need to stay alive.
Are you missing something?
How about Independent Thought, and the ability of Cognitive Reasoning? And you can throw in the lack of any friends, or anyone that would even consider getting in to your car, for less than $20, while you're at it.
Face it.
You're a Dick.
Houdini| 8.2.12 @ 10:37AM
The lefties just hate the fact that the frogs have awakened and decided that it's high time to get out of the hot tub before it's too late.
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 4:27PM
Indeed.
Al Adab| 8.2.12 @ 9:40AM
Yes John, my friend, you are missing the point. You among so many here must understand what tyranny looks like and what Freedom really means to people.
Of course you overstate what the right believes. Endless wars indeed. That sounds like it comes from 1969. Neos, Tea party and rapturers together in one sentence is quite a stretch.
Over regulation and deficit spending represent a great drag on the economy. We must move away from those policies and toward those which actually work. Central authority and tyranny can never answer the needs of the population.
There is a greater Freedom as well John and I hope dearly one day you will discover it. Salaam Aleikum
Drunken Sailor| 8.2.12 @ 10:09AM
Al, you're a better man than I to try and explain it to John (again).
Cheers.
George S| 8.2.12 @ 10:03AM
The only endless war we are fighting is the War on Poverty, five trillion dollars and counting.
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 4:31PM
I like your posts, George S. You're obviously smart, and love this Country.
The only thing that drives me crazy, is your Racist Leanings, such as this comment that you just made.
How do YOU like it?
Again, not a dig.
Just trying to make a point.
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 4:38PM
Actually, that might have been George Collins.
If it is?
Then, Never Mind.
Drunken Sailor| 8.2.12 @ 10:07AM
"Am I missing something."
Yes
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 12:56PM
No, romney only plans to take whatever he can get & spend it on a get rich quick game him & his buddies on wall street will play because the American People are too stupid to know what romney is doing.
Mitt Romney doesn't care about poor people remember he said exactly a few months ago, "I don't care about the poor people in America". It's because he can't take money from them for his buddies, so he doesn't care if they exist or not. Romney would be a liberal president, in spite of what he just said, which was only cheap camnpaign tactics that the right uses when their nominee is a sick joke. You gotta look through romneys smoke & mirrors. There is nothing but a rich guy who thinks that he can play America for a fool behind them.
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 4:37PM
That's the nice thing about Obama.
You don't have to look through Smoke and Mirrors.
His HATRED for this Country, it's People, it's Founders, our Founding Documents, and our WAY OF LIFE, is right out in the open, for all to see.
Even a Dumbass like you, can see it.
You just need to pull your Stupid Head outta your ass, for 5 Minutes.
Stkman| 8.2.12 @ 4:40PM
What he said was that poor people are taken care of. Poor people don't have to worry about paying the rent, paying for food or paying utility bills. Those of us who work and pay taxes pay all that for the poor.
Is Romey rich and does he have rich friends and will they do things to enrich themselves and protect their wealt? Yep, they will. But here's the up side, at least his rich friends will keep some of us employed. At least his rich friends will spend money in the economy.
The Democrats/Liberals, what do they bring to the table? Nothing. They only take take take. Tehn to make things worse they tell the job makers that they must pay higher taxes, but can't build a business here because some lizard may be threatened. What B.S.
How about when 20 million Americans have their jobs threatened? Scew the lizard, my kids need to eat.
Harry the Horrible| 8.2.12 @ 1:00PM
Neah.
Tea partiers don't believe in "Utopia."
We just want to cut off subsidies to the lame, lazy, weak, stupid, and perverted, and return the money to the taxpayers who earned in the first place.
We want to minimize government intrusion and obstruction.
We want to create wealth and jobs.
I suppose that's a lot to hope for in this day and age.
George Collins| 8.2.12 @ 8:05AM
Death knell for old line Republicans? With the likes of Lugar and Snowe on the way out, and Mourdock, Cruz, Rubio, Rand Paul on the ascent, wtf are you talking about Jack?
Von Mises Jr| 8.2.12 @ 8:05AM
To learn more about the Progressive takeover that culminated with Wilson in WWI, "War Collectivism" by Murray Rothbard is available at www.mises.org. It is 125 pages ($9.00) that explains how the intellectuals Mr. Lord references collaborated with the du Pont family, John D. Rockefeller and other families and leaders of AT&T, Deere and agriculture, fuel, munitions, raw materials and minerals, railroads, and Bethlehem and U.S. Steel.
The involvement in WWI created a short War Economy that while repudiated by Harding and Coolidge was brought into full throttle under Hoover and FDR. This is what the left does not want you to know, that the progressive movement was actually established as a fascist cabal between DC and Wall Street. The intent is to establish War Economy during peacetime.
As far as the Ted Cruz victory, it is of great dismay to the liberals. They wish to paint the Hispanics as a victim group in need of government assistance, but the two Hispanic Senators portray something very different. Rubio and Cruz could be the dynamic duo in the Senate that illustrate that Cuban, Portuguese and many other Hispanics are God fearing, hard working American patriots.
TW in SC| 8.2.12 @ 11:01AM
Unemployment during the great depression was lower than it is right now.
Von Mises Jr| 8.2.12 @ 11:57AM
I just got back from Myrtle Beach and Hatteras Island. Great area, people and food. If I could sell my house in the Northeast, I would love to have a place in SC.
You may be correct, but it is difficult to be sure since they did not lie to the extent in the 1930's as they do today. Besides fudging the denominator in the statistic to make 14.9% to be 8.2%, they now have the socialist policies obscuring the reality. The real way to look at it is the number of working age people employed. It is abysmal.
The way they hide the real lack of jobs is that many of working age are already collecting pensions and not counted. In the northeast, you can work as a teacher or cop for 30 years, retire at 55 and collect half of your final pay plus benefits for going to the beach. Even private companies such as the grocery stores that have private pensions are pushing out senior employees since the cost of their health care could be an immediate crisis. Better for them to bankrupt the pension system down the line than face the cold reality today.
At a family gathering recently, nine out of ten were of working age. I and two other were not gainfully employed due to the businesses failing; two were early retirement, one counted as unemployed and three working (two entry level). So if you look at the totality of the situation, one struggling businessman and two kids were supporting ten. But not for long, I suspect, unless the communist is defeated.
vtwin| 8.2.12 @ 4:29PM
…also make $21 million in income and pay only 13% in taxes, better for them to bankrupt the country than for the wealthy to pay even middle class tax rates.
TLP| 8.2.12 @ 4:41PM
I would discuss the Differences between Earned Income, and Income received on Investments?
But, you're way too Stupid for that.
But, you already know that, don't you?
CJW| 8.2.12 @ 4:45PM
Did Hillary pay the capital gains tax rate on the $100,000 she made on the cattle futures?
Stkman| 8.2.12 @ 4:47PM
vtwin,
There are more wealthy Democrats than there are Republicans. Last time I checked we ahd a two party system and both parties wrote and passed the tax codes.
Our tax system screws the middle class, no doubt. Thinking the Republicans are the cause of all ills is just wrong. The Democrats have just as much guilt in whats wrong with our tax codes, maybe more.
Here's the kicker though, the wealthy are paying well over 70% of all income taxes, yet they are only 2% of the population, while 50% of the population not only pays no federal income tax, they actually get money back on their tax return. Where do you suppose that money comes from?
It's time we passed a lwa that takes affect in seven years that if you drop our of school for any reason that you can no collect any socail benefits. School is free and no one should be allowed to quit, become a burden on society and collect welfare of any kind.
Anthony| 8.2.12 @ 8:53AM
Let us pray you are correct Mr. Lord. Lech Walesa, as many others around the globe, especially our own Mark Styne, who are mostly ignored by the media, knows that America is the sole force for freedom in the world.
Without a strong, vibrant America, dedicated and detrmined in its purpose as the protector of indiidual liberty, the world is lost to the forces of tyranny.
Walesa knows under Obozo America has been hijacked by the radical left, and that Romney must succeed or America dies. If America dies, the world dies with it. That is why this is a pivitol election.
While the people of this great country may be awakening, the leaders in Washington, in both parties, remain entrenched to the drift towards socialism.
The great re-discovery has yet to dawn on the Washington establishment, it may require a few smacks upside their collctive heads to get the message across.
RJ| 8.2.12 @ 8:55AM
The trolls seem to be getting up late today.
So many times, people who claim to be "moderate" say the problem is that conservatives are not willing to "compromise" and "work in the middle." It is largely as false a position today as it was during the slavery debate as well as during the time of the American Revolution. As Abraham Lincoln said, we stood as a nation divided, half slave, half free and it could not go on. One side or the other must win. So it is today where the debate is still over individual freedom - are we to live by cooperation and individual choice or will we live under government compulsion.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 1:04PM
Which is exactly why the right as we know it ends with Mitt Romney. Romney is a give away of most of the issues that conservatives care about today.
If America is to have any chance of recovery it is by throwing off both parties, & having a civil rebellion within the American People, & all under a conservative Tea Party ticket.
Most people who are against Mitt Romney are conservative. Are you aware that Mitt Romney signed in government take over of health care AND gay marriage as governor? & this is what the right wants us to look forward to? We think not.
RJ| 8.2.12 @ 3:06PM
I share your concerns about Romney (he wasn't my choice in the primaries); our only disagreement is over tactics. I don't think we win by leaving the Republican party. We win by taking it over. As a supporter of Pat Toomey over Arlen Specter; Steve Laffey over Link Chafee, Marco Rubio over Charlie Christ, I know that the GOP establishment is not committed to limited government. Nonetheless, politics isn't about perfection, but about selecting the best option. The choice between Obama and Romney is an easy one. And at the same time, in this campaign I support candidates like Ted Cruz to push the agenda in the direction of lawful, honest, effective and limited government.
DTOM| 8.3.12 @ 10:56AM
They don't get paid before 9:00 AM. Really.
RJ| 8.3.12 @ 2:38PM
I should have known. And now I know where the stimulus money went.
pogybait| 8.2.12 @ 8:59AM
It just seems to me that Republicans just don’t appreciate the fine art of social engineering. If Romney wins, it’s no stretch of the imagination that is all due to this nation’s primitive lust for lower taxes and smaller government. Without our glorious progressive leader to guide and nurture all of us, why we might just end up driving around in some big SUV with gun racks in the rear window and grandma chained to the rear bumper! Heaven Forbid!
Marco2| 8.2.12 @ 9:17AM
To all idiot Paulinistas: just smoke another doobie and shut the hell up. You're harmless to a dictatorship, of course, but you're so damned uselessly, stupidly, annoying that, otherwise, they'd probably shoot you first.
pogybait| 8.2.12 @ 10:33AM
Paulinistas? what country are they from? Haven't we as a society evolved from using stereotyping. What has all of this type of thing given the world besides unsightly body hair, Cuba, Iran and Syria.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 1:11PM
You are going to have to be a little more clear if you want anyone to have an inkling at what you were driving at. Sorry, never heard of a Paul, oh wait! It's the Paulbots! Oh yes, I always feel sorry for them, myself. You mean the Ron Paul followers who talk about America his insanely liberal ideas, right? He did run as a republican you know just like the chosen one of today. : ) Ron Paul was the only one more liberal than romney in the 8.
Patrick Wickersham| 8.2.12 @ 9:31AM
The biggest problem I have with Progressivism is the idea that it's progress.
It is more of a snide, insinuation that the values held dear by our forefathers is old and therefore not their idea. The point that there is a decided trend towards being Europhiles in this country, is exactly the problem. Especially since those countries have embraced Socialism in all forms. Your history of Progressivism, and its tendency towards social engineering, or their side of the pond evolved into the National Socialist German Workers Party. And was very popular with its adherants, and was based strongly on the new german scientific method of teaching. And arrogance is a cornerstone, on both sides of the Atlantic.
Mimi | 8.2.12 @ 9:35AM
Thanks Jeffrey for another great history lesson. You can always unwind and explain the BIG PICTURE of what is really going on and how we got here.
When raising the kids I always told them "somtimes you have to just come home and touch base"....I used to call those days ..."The RETURNEES"
Now so it is in the country...you diagnosed it well....the Progressives caused caused a weakness in our HISTORY lessons....NOW the catch -up.
As Ronald Reagan said....Freedom/ Liberty doesn't come in the blood stream....It must be reawakened in every GENERATION......Most people today are seeking it out with vigor...because of a NEED! That is the choice to be led by the most LIBERAL (out of 100 Senators)President ever...intent to bring about severe change and sweep away the gifts we were given by our Founders. The good sense of the American people will prevail....It will probably end any future ( 20% of the population) LIBERAL from ever again given power, they have so shown by their un-American ways, the danger to LIBERTY they can inflict!!
John Navratil| 8.2.12 @ 9:58AM
Mimi,
Progressives - Liberals - Marxists - Socialists (choose the term of the day) are so damned persistent. They are like vampires but there is no wooden stake to put through their heart (which they call their greatest asset). The good sense of the American people may prevail in November (let us pray fervently for it) but rest can never come.
Al Adab| 8.2.12 @ 9:43AM
Like similar comments on the Friedman thread, we need to recapture our culture and our history in order to continue to be the light of Liberty this nation has long been. The successes and failures of the past can teach us much, but if we do not study them, if we are ignorant of them only the failures will repeat.
Jack London| 8.2.12 @ 11:10AM
"we need to recapture our culture and our history"
Al - when do you feel our 'culture' was operating in the way that meets your approval?
Drunken Sailor| 8.2.12 @ 12:11PM
Did it ever meet yours or are you just picking a argument?
Jack London| 8.2.12 @ 12:19PM
It's a genuine question, so why don't you have a go. We have all this talk about 'taking America back" and as Al says "recapture our culture and our history". What I'd like to know is exactly when you think we had a time when we didn't need to "recapture our culture and our history". So what about it?
Drunken Sailor| 8.2.12 @ 12:35PM
Going back even 30 years would be a start. I believe his point was getting back to the ideals that founded this country. But of course you will twist them to fit your progressive agenda. That is partially what this article was about. Now you never answered my question and I asked first.
Did it ever meet yours and if so, when?
Al Adab| 8.2.12 @ 3:16PM
To more directly answer "when?" would require a long dissertation. The social divide began as far back as the emergent "progressive era" during the 1890s and early 20th century. It has been lengthy and incremental with many fits and starts. The administrative social-welfare state violates the principles of the founding.
Recapture our history might be understood as retain our history. What issies have self-governing people dealt with over the last 200 years, how did they deal with them and how did they settle them within the context of the common culture we once possessed? To understand where we are, we must understand where we came from and how we got here. Understanding that history might just give us a path toward recreating a common culture. Absent that it seems likely that only a tyranny of some sort (a Caesar or Bonaparte) will provide the glue to keep the nation together. Read Colin Woodward, American Nations, for a vision of a possible future for north America.
Jack London| 8.2.12 @ 4:39PM
Al, I'm sure you'll enjoy being reminded of these quotes by Gore Vidal, who died Tuesday:
'The United States was founded by the brightest people in the country – and we haven't seen them since."
And he asserted that there was no risk of American culture dying – because it had never existed.
CJW| 8.2.12 @ 1:34PM
BC. as in BeforeClinton. Bubba coarsened the culture. Do you think Bubba was a role model for young people, or anyone?
Al Adab| 8.2.12 @ 2:52PM
Jack:
This thread is quite full so the order might be confused, but I can answer your honest question. It is not a matter of the culture meeting my approval, it is however a matter of a onetime cultural consensus.
That consensus once covered acceptable behavior; a sense of right and wrong; an understanding of what it meant to be an American. We have drifted far from that consensus over say the last fifty years. My concern is that it seems unlikely that we can develop a relativistic moral consensus to replace the one we have lost. Our incessant demands for Tolerance and Diversity prevent the consolidation of any cultural commonality. The danger then lies in how to govern ourselves absent a common purpose. It pits us one against the other for the sake of short term power rather than long term Liberty. Absent such a commonality, it most likely will require a tyranny, what Churchill called a "new gestapo" to impose order and compliance.
Jack London| 8.2.12 @ 5:16PM
Al - I think you are missing the fact that the old morals we had were deficient in so many ways, towards minorities, women, the poor, gay people, education and health access etc, much of which started to be fixed in the 50s and 60s.
Today's society is much better in these respects, and the vast majority of people still hold essential values of work and self-improvement. But what they face is 30 years now of downgrading of the conditions that helped cut inequality, with stagnation of middle and lower class earnings, and I see we now have six million people whose only income is food stamps.
If we have a consensus, it should be to redress the extremes that are undermining our society. We need to identify with the poor, not the rich: that's the way to a more free and moral society.
TW in SC| 8.4.12 @ 1:02PM
You're completely ignoring the difference between "custom" and "law". Many customs in our past went against the law. The suffragettes pointed this out, as did opponents of slavery. Our laws and the Constitution they are founded upon, work just fine. Something I have insisted upon for decades. Why do we need "hate crime" laws? They are ridiculous and unnecessarily verbose and complicated. And, they are also slanted against white men.
Society is better today? Yup. Half of young angry black men are unemployed. Gays have parades out in the open where they demonstrate perverted actions that would get anyone else arrested. Teen pregnancy in the US is the highest of any Westernized nation. Abortions are also performed in a factory-like pace. Yes, we've done so well. But we're oh-so-much-more "enlightened", is that it? I am prohibited from using the words, "nigger, dyke, faggot, WOP, Pollack, Wetback" because it will get me fired from work. I don't use those words anyway but they are free to call me "breeder, honky, cracker, gringo, etc." when they feel all put-upon as IS THEIR CUSTOM with absolutely NO retribution.
The evolutionary term is "protected classes of people" as per the HR department where I work which is any non-white, non-straight, non-male person in the workplace. Get it?
Undermining our society? How about the lack of personal responsibility? How about setting out to be thug-for-life? You really need to get your mind right.
Kwan| 8.2.12 @ 9:59AM
It takes a rather large stretch of the imagination to see how converting a free and prosperous nation into a Welfare State populated by groveling moochers, slackers, and layabouts is Progress.
loulou| 8.2.12 @ 10:34AM
That's the problem--the parasites.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 1:23PM
Don't you know that success, & independence from the marxist nanny state hurts peoples feelings? What really makes people happy is food stamps so they can buy shet food or trade them for beer & drugs.
Were you actually suggesting that people aught to work? 90% of schools in America today won't tolerate that kind of attitude you know. God, is government. Jesus is barbaric. Give all to the all mighty state, never, ever work (you could be hurt).
It's funny though, no one really understands the depth to which we believe our marxist indoctrinators. I mean there is nothing stopping these schools any time soon. & no one is going to really go back to working for a living.
The American People believe that freedom is automatic. That they can sit & do nothing, & everything will all come back effortlessly.
You get out of freedom the work that you put into keeping it. & it's too far gone for enough to get the gist of that now.
Kooster| 8.2.12 @ 10:01AM
Jeffrey, my wife had a yard sale Saturday, and we live on a busy highway just outside Petersburg , Virginia.
I copied your photo on a disc, took it down to the local office supply store, and they blew it up for me to a size of 4' x 3', a typical movie poster size.
We displayed your photo in front of the house along side our yard sign to attract attention. I said to my wife, "The expression on that man's face is a real attention-grabber, and I bet you it will bring in the customers." And man was I right. Cars galore pulled in, the occupants rubbernecking your photo, and they all asked, "Who is that man?" You'll be pleased to know that many of them commented on how patriotic you look.
Edna Earl Dowless| 8.2.12 @ 10:17AM
Kooster,
If I'm not mistaken, you were the one who asked Mr. Lord about the shampoo he uses to get that shine.
Well, I've got white hair like Mr. Lord's, and I buy Royal Crown Gray Hair Pomade, and Lordy, does it put on a shine!
You can get it at Dollar General. Wal-Mart used to carry it, but the one here in Tyler, Texas doesn't stock it anymore. I don't know why.
Edna Earl Dowless| 8.2.12 @ 10:21AM
And one more thing. Royal Crown is real cheap--only $1.19 per bottle. And Dollar General often puts it on sale, and when they do that's when I stock up because my husband, Bobby Raye, has started using it too.
Kooster| 8.2.12 @ 10:27AM
You've got the right man Edna Earl. It was me who asked about the shampoo.
I'll have to get me a bottle of that Royal Crown, and Dollar General is just down the road a couple of miles.
God bless you, woman. And if you're out and about today, pop in to Chick-fil-A and chow down.
I was there yesterday and the line was a mile long. But we passed the time by singing that good ol' gospel song "Since Jesus Came Into My Heart."
It brought tears to my eyes "floods of joy fill my soul while the sea bellow roll . . ." Glory!
KyMouse| 8.2.12 @ 2:39PM
Oh my, Edna, you've brought back my childhood -- snackin' on an RC and a Moon Pie...
Jakota| 8.2.12 @ 10:07AM
Not to get too picky, but isn't it actually called Johns Hopkins? Not John!
George S| 8.2.12 @ 10:25AM
This is all well and good, but the pattern keeps repeating. An analogy is that our country is a house and progressive liberalism is the wiring. Every time we are not paying attention, the wiring causes a fire. We are oblivious to the fire as we sit and watch TV, fat dumb and happy. When we are sufficiently disturbed and see the fire, we ignore it since it doesn't directly burn us; plus the TV show is blissfully distracting us from the disaster and its consequences.
But then the fire gets too close, it burns, it hurts, we panic. We pick up the fire extinguisher labeled Conservative Values and put out the fire. Satisfied that the problem is solved, we then go back to watching TV.
But we do not take the opportunity to change the faulty wiring. Too much trouble, plus we know that the fire extinguisher can save us in a pinch.
Eventually, the wiring catches fire again. The pattern repeats. But this cannot keep happening as each time the fire occurs, more and more of the structure is weakened and soon there will no house standing after the last fire is put out.
Liberals know this, it is their game plan. We sit and calculate sudden victories -- putting out fires -- but the liberals get into our institutions (the walls) and set up shop to do damage over decades. Without the basic structural changes, the Great Rediscoveries will one day have nothing to rediscover.
loulou| 8.2.12 @ 10:35AM
True. The progs are like Muslims: they're in it for the long haul and are very, very patient.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 1:28PM
Today we are grabbing the guy who signed in government take over of health care AND gay marriage to put out said fires. Little bit like gas isn't it?
JayDick| 8.2.12 @ 10:53AM
That's at least 3 young conservatives in the limelight that have lots of potential (Ryan, Rubio, Cruz). All, and probably some others, have "future President" written all over them.
Doctor Right| 8.2.12 @ 11:09AM
Could someone pass this information to the moron known as "Purp"?
Purp was shooting his mouth off yesterday about how well GM is doing...
Well just today, we find out that their profits are down 41%!!!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/busi.....-struggles
Jack London| 8.2.12 @ 11:19AM
Well Dr Right, if you actually read the first sentence of that story you'll find:
"General Motors' profits fell 41% in the second quarter as troubles in Europe undercut strong sales in North America."
Let's run that by you again:
"strong sales in North America"
And one more time:
"strong sales in North America"
Now repeat it and take your medicine like good doctor.
TW in SC| 8.2.12 @ 11:47AM
Strong sales in North America? Which is why they are humping the leg of sub-prime lending to sell cars? Which may very well hinder the payback of the bailout $$?
http://washingtonexaminer.com/.....le/2503516
Jack London| 8.2.12 @ 12:04PM
You should really try reading more widely – GM's subprime financing is industry standard, and in any case make up only about 8% of GM financing. Less than 1% of auto loans are delinquent.
Really - it's most un-American to talk down our own successful industry.
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 12:17PM
Just a free clue, Jack. We don't generally include "Media Matters" in our list of things to read, due to their deceitful and propagandistic nature.
Which is likely why you didn't provide a link to them, but merely parroted the most recent talking points on this topic.
Jack London| 8.2.12 @ 12:24PM
Yeah you're right - not much point in providing links that call out your lies - but for the record surely even you can admit that Varney got it wrong when he said GM was 'still in bankruptcy'. Go on - show some backbone.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2.....-ba/189015
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 12:28PM
GM is a pension fund managment company, with a sideline building cars. Stocks are tanking, CEO is apologizing for both pathetic profits, and pathetic stock performance.
When Romney dumps the GM stock immediately after the election, it will get even worse.
Drunken Sailor| 8.2.12 @ 12:15PM
What difference does it make if they had strong North American sales? We bailed out GM, that means the entire company, not just the North American Sales departments. The headline reads profits fell by 41%. Not GM European market fell by 41%.
Spin doctor.
Jack London| 8.2.12 @ 12:26PM
"What difference does it make if they had strong North American sales? "
So you'd prefer our companies to go bust? And our economy to crash again? For what reason?
JD| 8.2.12 @ 12:31PM
The bottom line is that Purp talked up GM even though GM's profits are down. Jack is trying to change the subject from GM to "North American consumer strength" in order to avoid discussing something that makes his side look bad.
Ultimately, GM has not justified the expenditure made to it, and its North American sales are an insignificant part of the overall economy.
Jack London| 8.2.12 @ 1:00PM
You are so ignorant - have you any idea of the pivotal position of our auto industry in the economy? Really - and I've said this before JD - you are either incredibly badly educated or just a far right troll.
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 1:17PM
If you cannot sell a product at a profit, you aren't a factor in tangible GDP. A concern that cannot generate wealth cannot matter.
Stealing money from other industries to support such a concern does not increase wealth, thus cannot assist in increasing GDP.
All scarce resources tied up in a concern that doesn't make a profit, are wasted and could be of more efficient use in other industries. The tyrannical act of forcing citizens to subsidize said concern, trap the resources in least efficient use.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 1:25PM
You respond as one responds when he has no argument, is frustrated by his failure, and hates his whole predicament.
Seriously, now, when monthly job reports and GDP numbers are constantly considered significant by one side and trivial by the other, with roles reversing by the month, you're saying GM's North American sales over one small interval are significant economic news? And that STILL doesn't change the fact that you changed the original subject, which is that GM's financials went downhill.
JayDick| 8.2.12 @ 1:46PM
So, you're assuming that bankruptcy is equivalent to liquidation? A conventional bankruptcy, instead of giving it to the unions and screwing the bondholders, would have left GM stronger and the U.S. Government richer.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 1:52PM
Toyota's profits are down also, but GM is still #1 in the world (which is what I was touting), has added new hires (JOBS) this year in the United States (you see something wrong with that) and has paid back all it's loans to the United States Treasury.
Wanting American Industry to fail just so you can blame Obama is a disgusting, un-American desire. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
GM made 37 billion in the last quarter, 7 billion in profit last year and you call that insignificant? What are you, a commie?
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 2:03PM
http://www.webpronews.com/toyo.....er-2012-05
"2012: Toyota Edges Past GM as World’s Largest Carmaker"
JD| 8.2.12 @ 2:06PM
We never said we wanted anything to fail. That is your lie. We said it IS failing. And we know why. If you want to talk about wanting American industry to fail, take a gander at the writings of the Left while Bush was in office.
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 12:31PM
Anyone who subscribes to the American tradition of capitalism, prefers the creative destruction of the marketplace to being coerced to support a company nobody wanted to support volunatarily.
A company that cannot make a profit, demonstrates the unwillingness of free people to purchase their products. You don't fix that with tyranny.
Drunken Sailor| 8.2.12 @ 12:38PM
If they can not make it on their own after being firmly established, then yes, I prefer they crash.
It's called the free market and capitalism. It corrects itself given time. It becomes a bigger mess and takes longer to correct when goverment intevenes.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 1:53PM
Ask the million and 1/2 workers that depend on GM and the Auto Industry for their livelihoods and see what answer you get , you POS. How Anti-American can you be?
JD| 8.2.12 @ 2:05PM
They can find alternatives to depend on. You're the anti-American, opposing the evolution of business that made us great.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 10:11PM
JD - I guess you're a commie too. I hope anyone from Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania sees your anti-American comment.
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 2:06PM
The 98% of us who don't work at GM aren't very sympathetic that our wages were attached, and given to them.
This isn't about GM, it's about the UAW. A normal bankruptcy would have permitted GM to get out from under the union.
It would have allowed them to restructure themselves into a model that could make a profit. This fiasco wasn't about saving jobs, it was about saving a labor union.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 10:13PM
Idiot - they couldn't have a normal bankruptcy in 2008. NO ONE was lending anyone any money for anything. Are you this stupid? Do you know anything about corporate bankruptcies?
Go learn something, and then come play with the big boys.
Drunken Sailor| 8.2.12 @ 2:51PM
If you are the definition of a True American then I want no part of it. I put 20 years in the military supporting my idea of America, how many years did you put in serving your country in one fashion or another. Piece of Sh*t
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 10:14PM
Air Force here bud - and I'd be more than happy to bomb your ass back to the stone age with your antiquated reactionary fascist views.
Drunken Sailor| 8.3.12 @ 9:11AM
Tough talk for a guy hiding behind a computer but your welcome to try flyboy
TW in SC| 8.2.12 @ 3:09PM
The GM workers in the form of UAW are a big part of the problem. Getting paid huge bucks to put lug nuts on Cadillacs is such a highly paid skill, eh?
Plus, the union dues that the workers pay which ends up in the pockets of national socialist politicians, where the workers actually have little to no say.
But, when you factor in the salaries of the UAW, you can understand why cars cost so much. They refuse to take salary cuts when sales are down. They do not compromise. They demand more and more and more...at first in years past, it was probably justified but now it's gone into the sublime.
Conversely, the union I belong to went the table twelve times to negotiate pay and benefits when the company I worked for was in bankruptcy. I still ended up getting laid off...but was called back. The company today is leaner, more efficient and very cost conscious. Salaries for everyone took a huge hit but we're in business and doing ok.
GM UAW employees stage walk-outs and refuse to accept compromise. They hold their employer hostage. This is destructive.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 10:16PM
Unless you are a CEO you're an idiot if you believe the crap about unions and union workers. You drank the KoolAid and slurped it right in. The bosses are laughing at your ass while the ship your jobs out of the country, you idiot.
Who wins if you don't have benefits, don't make much per hour? OMG that is such a stupid attitude.
George S| 8.2.12 @ 1:16PM
Jack, right now GM is being subsidized by the taxpayers, absent which GM would go bankrupt as they cannot compete with the market wages and benefits of Toyota, Honda, Nissan, et al.
GM's payout to people who do not work (retirees and their families) is unsustainable as the cost was folded into their cars, making them uncompetitive. Now that Obama has taken over the benefits from GM, they are free to compete, and maybe even undercut competitors.
But I do not understand how liberals rejoice over GM making profits. After all, this was socialism's finest hour -- the nationalization of the biggest car company in the world. Those profits should be tax refunds. Why should GM and the UAW get them? We paid for it!!!
Are you with me comrade? Then let's get the pitchforks and take what is rightfully ours!!!
Yours forever in Revolution,
George
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 1:56PM
GM was not nationalized. That's a moronic right wing wet dream.
How did "Obama take over the benefits from GM"?
I surely hope your benefits and wages are on the downward slope to China and Indian wages, so you can feel the same "race to the bottom of the wage scale" you seem so happy to inflict on OTHER Americans. And, there goes the middle class with it. Idiot.
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 2:08PM
Taking my money, and giving it to GM, was a crime against me.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 10:17PM
So what, Truncheon? My money was taken to give tax breaks to the rich and oil companies. So?
George S| 8.2.12 @ 3:26PM
GM and Chrysler bonds were mainly held by J.P. Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, and Goldman Sachs. All of them were TARP recipients. Based on that, Obama bullied them to give up controlling interest to the UAW enabling the subsequent "loans" to GM to be converted into equity.
After the smoke cleared, the government controlled 61 percent of the GM and the UAW with 17.5 percent. The pension funds are now forever backed by taxpayer "loans", leaving GM free and clear to focus resources on cars.
But this puts GM under the pressure of Washington D.C. If GM were to focus solely on greeny weeny cars, they would lose money as the foreign owned companies are more efficient in producing small cars. GM would lose money, requiring more tax dollar "loans". The federal government cannot abide that so it will take regulatory action against other car companies or their interests such as auxiliary manufacturers. Hasn't happened, but you cannot have a free market with one party so inefficient it can't compete but has the power to employ legalized violence to back its edicts. And the job destruction of the competition will begin in earnest.
That will really do wonders for the middle class. But what do I know? Just an idiot.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 10:34PM
The Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation is a government entity that backs pension plans for all companies. You should know that since Bain Capital dumped millions of their responsibility for pensions for the thousands of people they laid off. Nothing new there - except people lost their jobs with Mitt the Twit's Bain Capital and people kept their jobs and then some with the Auto Industry rescue - completed by both a Republican AND Democratic Administration I might add.
Free market blather again? When every single loophole and tax evasion scheme is shut down for corporations and the wealthy, then come talk to me about "FREE MARKET". What they mean by Free Market is the rich being free to do what they want and to concentrate more wealth and power in the 1%. And you all fall for it. There never has been a free market in this country and never will. It's free, like your free to rob a bank. Not.
But you are entertaining.
BTW - didn't you know that most of ALL loans from the government by all banks, GM, Chrysler, AIG have been paid back with interest to the US Treasury? I'll guess you don't care. It doesn't fit the right wing mythology you push.
CJW| 8.2.12 @ 3:45PM
Jack, are you also purp?
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 1:31PM
Um, didn't they just give away most of our money in welfare & food stamps? My guess is that on a day like today, Purp might be at wall mart, or it's dealers.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 1:34PM
Sorry, I have to add that if Purp lives in my state, Washington State, his drug dealers are the state now. The state now takes from the traditional dealers & gives it out to people who "can't afford their pot". Welcome to marxist America, where the ship is sinking & we all forgot how to swim.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 1:58PM
I'm here, not in Washington, and you're a complete fool with all your remarks.
Are you talking about medicinal marijuana?
If the ship is sinking you can blame Republican fiscal and monetary policy for that ... hard to keep afloat when it's 1% top heavy.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 2:15PM
What policy? Your side has made almost all of the significant economic policy for generations.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 10:35PM
Not for the last 30 years, Bub.
Drunken Sailor| 8.2.12 @ 2:52PM
Most likely he got the Marijuana idea from your moniker. Purp is a urban description for one type.
PJ| 8.2.12 @ 11:28AM
I knew about John Dewey & his progressive ways. I think the origin of progressivism dates back to those Germans (Prussians?) who embraced Marx & Engel's views in the 1860s-1870s. It was also during that time that Bismark came into power & viewed anyone who did not espouse German nationalism to be a threat. This resulted in many German intellectuals with progressive ideas immigrating to the USA & becoming professors at our young colleges. Thus, the beginning of the leftist professor. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 12:25PM
I don't know allot about it, I like to read, & you have to go back pretty far to find a populous of morality in the traditions of our founders. Nathaniel Hawthorne was in a socialist commune in 1837 with a feminist & other socialists. He rejected the whole idea personally, & later wrote The Blithedale Romance about it. So, this stuff goes back into the early 1830 because this feminists was active for a while before she got the commune up.
I read, but I try to steer clear of the many, many socialist writers America has had. Check out Ralph Waldo Emerson, first published in 1836, if you want to know where cultural marxism has its roots. They guy is one of the sickest of the sick. He bade us leave morality to enter a new liberated life. We left morality, but ended up in marxist servitude, with little to none hope for recovery.
There are many, many very sick people who wrote for America. John Steinbeck, Ernest Hemmingway, F. Scott Fitzgerald, Carl Sandburg, there are many who have instilled in us marxist compliance, & complacency.
PJ| 8.2.12 @ 3:25PM
I think Emerson & his type were all part of that early American Christian Revival. Marx was reacting against all the bad that was taking place during the European Industrial Revolution & other European revolutions taking place during his time. Because of slow transatlantic communication, communism didn't take hold on American soil until those German immigrants who were educated arrived. And it hasn't stopped since.
Don't forget Dr Seuss in your list although he comes much later.
C Smith | 8.2.12 @ 11:42AM
The anarchist assassin of President William McKinley was a disciple of Emma Goldman. Her legacy lives on at the Iowa City Emma Goldman Clinic, "a feminist approach" to the dissolution o the innocent.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 1:41PM
I think you had a little type O there, you meant annihilation of the innocent right? Feminism has done more to destroy America than any other single thing. People take it as something that doesn't effect us in a way that matters much. But the feminist culture is the foundation of all growth of despotic governmental power. Nothing else has destroyed us so utterly & completely as feminism.
C Smith | 8.3.12 @ 4:16AM
A woman without natural affection laying her unborn upon the altar of feminism or narcissism.
Then blood, innocent blood. Then a muted scream. Then the dissolution of body and spirit. Then silence. Then in the night a deafening stillness born of bloodguilt. Then the realization of a time appointed when the Avenger of Blood will render Judgment!
But there is a reprieve for all who pursue it:
"Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions. Wash me throughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin. For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me. Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest. Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom. Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow. Make me to hear joy and gladness.... Hide thy face from my sins, and blot out all mine iniquities. Create in me a clean heart.... Deliver me from bloodguiltiness...." (Psalm 51:1-14).
http://popularapostasy.blogspo.....ion_3.html
Dimitry_Aleksandrovich| 8.2.12 @ 11:46AM
All Romney and the current GOP represent is an America of the corporations, by the corporations and for the corporations. When it comes down to it all ideology in politics is b.s....it's all about power. Money is power and force is power is well. Lobbyists spend millions to protect their wealthy corporate clients, but who speaks for the interests of the working class? Surely nobody believes in the trickle down garbage where working class people put all their faith in the wealthy elite to trickle down jobs at McDonalds and Starbucks and somehow that's going to be enough. Working class people need to organize and use the power of collective bargaining and the political force of organized labor to restore their voice in America's political process. We don't need the Democrat Party and we don't need the Republican party. If we become organized and politically forceful both the Republicans and the Democrats will need us. It's about the elites fearing you. It has to come to that for anything good to come to the working class.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 12:11PM
The right obviously believes that the American People are all idiots without any idea of what romney is, or what he is really doing. They are all still licking their chops in case they get a chance under romney to rip off the entire nation in as many ways as possible. Watch the right, it is quickly becoming a very sick money game with them. & the whole of the right has tossed out traditional values, as this story tries to say it doesn't, but makes no mention of romneys actual values because romneys are wholly liberal.
They obviously think that We The People are so pathetic & weak minded that we will clamor over our new chosen ruler, & shower him with sweet nothings.
I hope that the American People don't let themselves be taken advantage of by an obvious criminal mind like Mitt Romney.
I agree with you, we need a Tea Party, if there is any chance for America to recover, it is not with dems or pubs. I have been asking my guy to run under the Tea Party ticket this year. He was the conservative, Rick Santorum. Romney can't help us. I wish someone who can, would step up & fight for freedom before there is none for anyone here.
This America under obama, & faster under romney is going straight to hell.
aware| 8.2.12 @ 12:51PM
I would argue there is no such thing as the "Right" anymore. There is complete agreement on massive government, arguments are just over what it does now. One side thinks the State keeps us "safe" and the other thinks it keeps us "fed".
JD| 8.2.12 @ 1:38PM
There are indeed big government people who call themselves conservatives, or at least Republicans. But there is still a "Right". You see it all over this site - people who truly oppose big government. The Left, ever needful of straw men, will pretend that every conservative is really a big-government lover. They'll even use their term "neo-con" to describe EVERYONE they dislike, without ever considering that "neo" distinguishes from an essential alternative, the regular "cons".
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 1:46PM
This "right" that you speak of is opposing tyranny with the guy who signed in government take over of health care & gay marriage? The people on the right might be trying to do the right thing, but the ones driving the ship are most certainly not. The right lost its credibility with Mitt Romney. Among other things, John Boehner... ...that the people are still fool enough to believe the right, is only because there is no better alternative right now.
Drunken Sailor| 8.2.12 @ 2:54PM
You are seriously confusing the Republican party with Conservativism.
Conservative may equal Rebuplican
Republican does not always equal Conservatism.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 12:00PM
Of course the guy who signed in & believes in the government take over of our health care industry & gay marriage is going to bring America tax breaks for the rich that every American can die under. That is the rights "return to values", & it is pathetic.
Traditional Values? How about the truth about Mitt Romneys past? The right thinks it can play this all off without a word from the liberal protrator romney. I say he falls on his liberal face. The right thinks the American People are stupid enough to buy anything. I hope that the right is wrong about that. Romney just sits up there on his throne, casts out tax breaks for the rich over us, & does nothing. & the right clamors over his illustrious tax breaks. & the fawn without any concern whether he is any good or not. & wonder why they aren't getting anywhere.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 12:05PM
"With that accident of history, the first of America's "progressive" presidents moved into the White House. A century-plus of "progressivism" was launched" - This is what made America exceptional and a Superpower. We have been going down hill since Reagan was elected and the small minded conservative movement did it's damage.
The Founders believed in limited government for the times they lived in. A limited government would not have an income tax, but also would not have the premier military in the world either. There is absolutely no way a limited government could sustain the Armed forces we have now on tariffs and duties, period.
We would not have the National Park System or our superior agriculture system we have without the land grant university system and cooperative outreach to farmers that came with them.
Yes, yes, yes, social programs also cost a bundle, but as Western civilization has progressed, so has the need as well as the ability for countries to provide for their people, especially those that cannot provide for themselves. Unless you want Grandma and Grandpa to move in with you, Social Security and Medicare provide dignity for them and the pride of living on their own, when their ability to produce has diminished. And, to no small matter, they have paid into those 2 insurance programs all their lives expecting the return of a reasonable retirement years.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 12:43PM
Purp's entire rant makes bad assumptions, but let's focus on that last sentence. He says that Social Security's existence is justified by... Social Security's existence! How circular!
It's actually quite common for liberals to think that way. Liberal activities create the need for liberal activities.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 1:57PM
No one in America is going to believe that pile of marxist sway that Purp just ejected.
The left will win with it though because the right lacks the skill to oppose suck argument. Purp is an intellectual who knows nothing but absolute drain of taxpayer money. But the right won't fight him. That is the so called beauty of running liberal romney, every issue is a give away to the left.
The left does nothing more than build itself. It does so by destroying our families, & anything that will keep us strong & free. The right loses to them because it refuses to fight.
Not the people on the right, a good maybe even as much as thirty percent of the people on the right do fight for values. But our leaders refuse us.
Welfare the way our founders had it was, only those who really had nothing, or an means, could get help. Today anyone who asks, & our whole culture promotes government assistance with everything imaginable.
It's like the old moral, if everyone gets it, there won't be any for anyone, that is Americas money today. But you won't get that from the powers that be in the right. Mitt Romney doesn't care about the "poor people", as he says.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 1:59PM
You contradict yourself. First you say "no one will buy purp's argument." Then you say "Purp's argument will win." Sounds like people will buy his argument, then!
And they do. They do it because while conservatives were busy doing society's work, the Left took over entertainment and the media. Now the public gets all its "facts" from the Left.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 2:04PM
No idiot, it was rampant poverty amongst seniors that was alleviated with Medicare.
Social Security helps more than seniors and was a response to the Great Depression and the lack of any safety net for times just like what we're in.
Thank God for the Safety Net from FDR and LBJ. Without both, you'd be in a soup line instead of spitballing on the Internet.
Conservatives are cheap, greedy little misers that worry only about themselves and today. They are the grasshoppers of our society.
Progressives are the ants that plan for the future and take care of the present.
We've followed Republican/conservative ways for 30 years and look where we are - almost the same place we were the last time we followed their policies in the 20's. No thanks. I'll take the industrious ant over the profligate grasshopper anyday.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 2:10PM
Everything you said was a lie. Everything.
Social Security creates the need for Social Security by taking money away from people during their working years.
Conservatives see a far bigger picture than you, and worry about more than you see. Your tunnel vision prevents you from seeing that, in addition to the issues you miss.
We have NOT followed conservative ways for 30 years. Not even close. Government has grown, the tax code has grown and become more "progressive", regulations have grown, and we've moved left socially. In no way have we moved right. They same was true in the 1920s, as "monetary policy" began to grow and bank regulations positioned banks to fail. Liberalism caused the Depression, too.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 10:38PM
That's just stupid talk. Never heard of the "Reagan Revolution"? What do you think is meant by that? "Reagan was a transformational President" - from what to what? What do you think is meant by that? Why do they say that? Are you really this dense? You don't even know what liberalism is let alone why it's important.
John Navratil| 8.2.12 @ 1:39PM
Purp,
With 60% of the economy going to entitlements, I think this government could become substantially limited and still provide the military you love so much.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 2:03PM
50% of all Americans get a welfare type payment. 60% of our federal budget is entitlements spending. One in seven today in America is on food stamps. One in seven? & my guess is the right will ignore all of that because what we have wrong is solved merely by tweeking the taxes. The liberal right is in la la land. Look at this story, how are we to "go back to traditional values" if romney is left on those very things?
These stories are great to fill in the gaps, but they won't cut it when their leader is hollow.
John Navratil| 8.2.12 @ 2:56PM
Libertyinfinite,
You go to war with the Army you have. We still have to win.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 12:05PM
Cultural values matter, but there is nothing wrong with American culture today, it simply has evolved to be more inclusive and more free. We all have more freedom to express ourselves. What's the matter with Freedom?
JD| 8.2.12 @ 12:46PM
As in Orwell's 1984, where the war opponent changes and history is rewritten to make it seem like it was always that way, liberals think they can rewrite the dictionary every day and no one will notice.
They label whatever they want "right now" as a "right", even though that means ever-changing standards of what is a "right".
They label whatever they disagree with as "bigotry", "hatred", "intolerance", and ignore their own frequent demonstration of all three.
Whether a transaction is a "tax", "subsidy", "loophole", "incentive", "break", "deduction" or "penalty" is completely subject to their whims.
And here we have "freedom" and "inclusion", which are shockingly restrictive and exclusive to non-liberals!
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 2:08PM
Really? And, yet you are free to express yourself here, worship whom you want or not, have an abortion or not, co-habitat with whomever you want, have children in or out of wedlock, work where you want, live where you want, almost marry what person you want. Pursue whatever endeavor you like.
You see less freedom in these things? Why?
JD| 8.2.12 @ 2:11PM
With the exception of legally killing babies, that was all true all along. But much of it is less true, as liberal regulations restrict how we can work, expression faces liberal legal consequences, and worship is constrained by "unless the Left decides your beliefs are 'bigoted'".
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 10:40PM
Now I know you know nothing. All those things were true along huh? Go learn something.
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 2:17PM
Every child killed in abortion, lost all his freedoms. Every dime of my wages that is spent on social programs, indentures a fraction of my finite life in slavery to liberalism.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 10:42PM
Every abortion is between a woman, her family, her doctor and her creator. Not you, or me. It's none of our business, a fetus is not a child. Not until it is born. Another right wing myth you spout.
The taxes you pay are the price you pay to live in this great country. Too bad you can't be proud to support your country with your paltry taxes.
John Navratil| 8.2.12 @ 11:55PM
Would you were that fetus. Actually, I don't.
John Navratil| 8.2.12 @ 3:47PM
Purp,
Yep! Rights without responsibilities. That's the ticket!
Boar Hunter| 8.2.12 @ 12:59PM
You
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 2:09PM
Back at ya, pal. What an insightful response.
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 2:19PM
Since you function primarily as an organic tape-recorder, I don't think you occupy a position to criticize other's insight.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 10:43PM
Yap, yap, yap....
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 2:13PM
Your "freedom" is servitude, & absolute bondage. Work is discouraged in your collectively perfected welfare state society. We run on accumulating debt alone. It has no viable future, this "freedom".
The left has freed you from having a traditional family, independence from government, & working for a free republic. But that is not freedom, it is bondage. Those unfortunate enough to want a real job in your perfect state owned & operated world, have to pay to give out welfare to half of all Americans (50% of all Americans get a monthly entitlement) & have to give one in seven Americans today food stamps every month.
The money that it takes to pay these things, some other American worked for. You want us to believe that freedom is laying around, expecting a welfare check, & every luxury under the sun, from some poor guy who just wants a job?
The left has always sold absolute servitude as liberation. That is why we live in a nanny state that is going to kill us.
Look, there is no way that we can pay for anything that this government has promised everyone. It is fantasy, that you & most Americans live in, if you think that this nation is viable now.
Slacker| 8.2.12 @ 12:07PM
This is really chaps my ass:
“Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio (Latinos both, it should be added)...”
Uh, no Mr. Lord, it shouldn’t be added you useless old buffoon. WTF difference does it make? So the republicans have their very own token Latinos. Neither of them have done jack shit. But, the party old timers get to nod approval and dream they can escape demographic reality.
I’m sickened.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 2:19PM
I agree with you, the republicans, especially Mitt Romney, continue to divide us all up into groups. Romney will get Rubio & tell all of the latinos that amnesty is coming. That is the plan, that is why he is picking Rubio. Romney promised to be lax on immigration months ago.
They aren't playing to the legal latinos, the republican party. They are going liberal.
Jack London| 8.2.12 @ 12:28PM
I'll post this again because I'm genuinely interested in the answer(s).
We have all this talk about 'taking America back" and as Al Adab says "recapture our culture and our history". What I'd like to know is exactly when you think we had a time when we didn't need to "recapture our culture and our history".
So what about it?
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 12:33PM
You gather that reposting trolls that everyone is ignoring, will make them other than trolls, or other than ignored?
Drunken Sailor| 8.2.12 @ 12:40PM
Fisher of strawmen arguments, that's our boy Jack London.
Jack London| 8.2.12 @ 12:56PM
If you can't even answer these basic questions I can't see what exactly it is you want to return to. As I said, it's a genuine question – but of course if you can come up with an answer then it's worth looking at what the conditions actually were then.
Drunken is saying as start the early Reagan years – but he did enact one of the largest ever tax increases to save the economy. There are echoes here of letting the Buch tax cuts expire.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 1:06PM
You liberals can't decide whether Reagan raised or lowered taxes. It all depends on what you want to say, given context. Pick a story and stick with it!
Reagan slashed marginal rates but raised the amount collected, mainly because the economy did so well and taxable income increased. He also eliminated a ton of deductions and credits, as well as loopholes that made some income untaxable. EFFECTIVE rates held steady, though in the case of the poor this was only because he doubled the payroll tax to make up for SS's insolvency. Since then, effective rates for all but the rich have plummeted.
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 1:19PM
Let me ask you a basic question, which you should be able to answer, based on your "logic".
Are you still beating your wife?
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 1:22PM
Since the answer to your "question" is implicit in the clear text of the article, your "question" is an exhibition of infantile willful obtuseness.
You did not ask it for any chance at understanding, but rather to drag the conversation into some nonsensical direction.
Your question is a troll, nothing more.
George S| 8.2.12 @ 1:21PM
So then why do liberals despise Reagan with a vengeance? Geez, he raised taxes, increased spending, ran up the debt...
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 2:12PM
Our country has gone downhill since the Gipper got his doddering old hands on it. It's charted quite well in many places - that are honest.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 2:16PM
Name a metric by which you could compare the 70s favorably with the 80s.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 10:44PM
Size of the middle class and concentration of wealth in the top 1% ... I said over the last 30 years. Why you bring 70's into this? You didn't like Nixon/Ford?
Drunken Sailor| 8.2.12 @ 1:54PM
Jack,
Are you going to answer the question or not?
For the third time now: Did it ever meet yours and if so, when?
Jack London| 8.2.12 @ 2:27PM
I'm not the one making the claim that there was a golden cultural and economic age. But it's clear that economically, we became the world's powerhouse in the post-war period up to Reagan with public investment in infrastructure, science and technology, education, and health and welfare, while maintaining equitable tax rates and good labor representation.
Culturally, we had to of course also have civil rights but it's taken time to also see more equality for minorities, women and gay people and we are still far behind as 'worldly' people generally in terms of say where a lot of the Europeans are. But overall, we are far richer culturally than we were in the 1950s.
JD's list is an insult to the vast majority of hardworking people and he's ignorant of the huge struggle it is in many states to get things like Medicare and disability.
Jack London| 8.2.12 @ 2:27PM
I meant Medicaid.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 2:35PM
You are right, there was no need to challenge you to point to your favorite culture time. However, that's all you're right about.
"Public investment" didn't grow what grew. We grew because of the work ethic WWII taught us, and because we had a global monopoly. But that all started dying out in the face of liberalism in the 70s. Saying that Reagan killed it is absurd. He inherited a mess!
Europe's "rich culture" is actually a lot more racist than ours, and if you haven't noticed, the continent is in serious decline.
As for my list, you avoided it, as you always do when your challenges are answered too well for you. Maybe I am a fool, for wasting time answering your questions when you'll ignore the answers anyway.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 12:53PM
In the 1930s, as Social Welfare first emerged, many refused to file for benefits because they felt embarrassed to be living on handouts. Today, people trip over themselves filing for "disability" and racking up diagnoses of mental illnesses so they can qualify for more assistance.
In the past, education was a sought-after virtue. Today, many scorn it, at least until they become worthless adults and grow tired of poverty.
In the past, people took pride in what they could do. Today, people try to one-up each other's descriptions of how many problems they have.
In the past, getting married before having children, and supporting them together,were virtues. Today, the Left scorns abstinence, and I read liberal editorials that suggest that single mothers are BETTER than married ones.
In the past, people took pride in not having debts, and in paying them off. Today, people take pride in qualifying for loans, racking up debts, and filing for strategic bankruptcies. Debt collectors are scorned.
In the past, immigrants wanted to become like us. Today, they demand that we adjust to them.
In the past, profanity and obscenity was scorned. Today, liberals celebrate it as "freedom" and "art."
In the past, the SCOTUS enforced Constitutional rules against using the tax code to redistribute instead of merely raising money for legitimate acts of government. Since 1938, it does not.
Jack London| 8.2.12 @ 1:04PM
So JD - put your money where your big mouth is and pick a year when all this was true and you would have ben proud to be an American, which you clearly aren't now.
And by the way, all of your silly talking points can be easily disposed of, but let's get that year first.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 1:18PM
Nothing about this conversation requires there to have been a utopian year in our past. Leftist poison has always been part of our world. But each of the things I listed is a change that has occurred over roughly the last century. It fully satisfies your request for specifics on the culture to be recaptured. Choke on it.
As for recapturing "history", simple public knowledge of the facts of policy and results past would suffice. As it is, the history that the public perceives is whatever you liberals need it to be in the moment, 1984-style.
George S| 8.2.12 @ 1:23PM
How about you start off with the premise that the Obama Years are the best we've ever had. Then YOU can defend against prior periods.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 2:30PM
The left hates America & everything that makes a citizen free, Jack. The left hates our flag, they hate our, tradition, our freedom of religion. That is why the left has shaped us into a society of slaves to a despotic marxist nanny state, Jack.
You are the one who is not American. Look at your Mitt Romney & your hollywood starlets, they have to go out of the country before they can find anything worth believing in. It's the libs who hate America, that common sense today.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 2:24PM
The answer is prior to the new deal. Before that, America was left alone by it's governments. It all began to go away, they took more & more, taxes, & helped us, no not when we needed help, just to build their own power over us. Until we got here, 5o% of Americans get a monthly entitlement, 60% of our federal budget is a hand out, one in seven is on food stamps, & all of this is payed for by borrowing money. So the answer is 1929.
PsychoDad| 8.2.12 @ 12:52PM
The American Spectator has such well-written, thoughtful, profound, one might even say intellectual articles. How do we end up with so many ignorant stereotypes here for the leftards to laugh at? Are they all strawmen/trolls?
JD| 8.2.12 @ 12:55PM
It's been a long time since I've faced any liberal who has criticized one of my positions. Straw men are all I get anymore. Why do you think that would be unique to this place?
Jack London| 8.2.12 @ 1:06PM
I think when he says "so many ignorant stereotypes here for the leftards to laugh at" he means you, JD.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 1:12PM
You continue to ignore my posts on issues. All you do is name-call, make straw-man arguments, and try to bait the dumbest people here into saying something stupid to justify your straw men.
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 1:24PM
You've basically defined the MO of the standard issue leftist forum troll.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 1:35PM
The Chik Fil A fiasco has really made clear a driving force behind liberalism: hate
They've always operated by scapegoating and focusing the electorate against their scapegoat, with themselves as the agents of righteousness. But it's possible, when they're being more polite, to think that this is just tangential behavior, and their main thrust is their misguided effort to "help the poor".
But CFA throws the reality into stark relief. All of liberalism is a fight against "evil". What evil? Whatever they can find to hate. Hate is what drives them. They always need an enemy, and if one isn't available, they'll invent one. Anyone can be the enemy, so long as he has something the Left wants. They just invent reasons for their hate, and off they go. Hate is their fuel. They know it, which is why they get so uncomfortable when people don't justify their hate. That's why they bait people into saying something hatable.
Without something to hate, the Left has no one to redistribute from, no one to regulate, no one to blame, no one to position themselves against. Their entire political repertoire (regulation, redistribution, etc) is attacks on an enemy. Without the enemy, they die.
Contrast that with the Right, which is about creating an environment for people to thrive. The only thing we hate are things that interfere with that environment. If we don't find any problems, we're not frustrated; we're happy!
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 2:39PM
Typical liberal Jack, saying that your opponent is doing what you are in the process of.
Miss Your hero Kieth Overbite, do you? Awe, it's must suck so bad to be you. I mean today, you just don't get any lower that people like liberal crap eater Jack. Go to the doctor allot do you? Getting all of your taxpayer funded help? Maybe try not to swallow everything the left feeds you sometime, it works wonders.
Guess what guy, what the left did isn't working. Problem is the whole of the right hasn't got anything better. But seriously, fascist schools, communist government workers, a socialist dictator instead of a president, you know you are in America right? None of this can really fly.
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 1:26PM
Exactly. Liberalism is dead, there is not a shred of anything intellectually defensible in it, so we don't see intellectual advocates of it but only mindless, venom-spewing cultists.
The champions of liberalism those who cultivate the human weakness of envy, of which they are proud.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 1:35PM
But society is similarly dead, such that so much of it aligns with liberalism!
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 1:45PM
As Mitt Romney just said, it's Culture that matters. Conservatives never much seem to consider Culture, except to criticize its decay.
Conservatives need to *take back* the Culture. Which is to say, encourage our kids to pursue art, music, poetry, cinema, written fiction, etc.
We older folks need to gain skills in disciplined appreciation of art, then invest some of our time into viewing and critiquing culture, and of course giving cash and labor to whatever Conservative purveyors of culture we discover.
That is the only true path to salvation of the masses.
Leonard Gilbert| 8.2.12 @ 1:54PM
Where would our children pursue these endeavors "Truncheon" ? In the liberalized public shool systems? The colleges and universities that turned out Barack Obama, Van Jones, Rahm Emmanuel, Valerie Jarrett, Rachel Maddow...?
I pass. I would like for my children to be taught how to think and not ...what to think.
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 1:57PM
Hillsdale College, Thomas Aquinas College, home-schooling, etc.
Leonard Gilbert| 8.3.12 @ 6:22PM
So, that means I won't have to pay propertytaxes for the support of public schools that don't do their job?
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 2:28PM
I'm all for it... But all that you named are called "Liberal Arts" ... you do know that don't you? Liberal Arts Colleges and Universities with Liberal Arts Schools.
That's where you will learn these things, not at a place like "Liberty University" or "Oral Roberts U. "
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 2:40PM
Yes, not only do I know that, but I also know what liberal means. Apparently, you do not.
Libertyinfinite| 8.2.12 @ 2:46PM
No, the true path to recovery is to tell everyone in America that the American taxpayer doesn't have what it takes to pay out everyone that our despotic government said that it had no problem paying. The path is the truth, what we are doing in not viable. If America didn't have welfare, it wouldn't have poverty. It is a fact, the more you give away, the more are poor.
Before welfare America had almost no one who was poor. It is a fact. As soon as we gave it out, everyone layed there with their hand out. & now the left tells us that freedom is taking from others who work. No, the path back is by being honest about how broke & broken we have become.
You can take your art & government as god & sho...
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 2:51PM
That which you subsidize, you get more of.
Leonard Gilbert| 8.2.12 @ 1:56PM
J.D.....Society is not dead. The "American" members of our society are just ...getting up their nerve. Change is coming.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 2:00PM
Society is as dead as intellectual liberalism. Both can be revived.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 2:28PM
Dead, no - not to your liking, yes. Too bad, so sad for you.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 2:47PM
And for everyone else. I envy the blind, like you, who do not see that!
Leonard Gilbert| 8.2.12 @ 1:47PM
No American Values...new or otherwise... to be found among the leadership in Chicago, Boston, Washington D.C., or San Francisco.
For Rahm Emmanuel to state that Chick Fil A does not share Chicago's values was insane...of course they don't Rahm. You embrace the values of Nation of Islam, street gangs, murderers, drug dealers, and worst of all...The Chicago Democrat Party Machine. You must embrace these values since you've done nothing to correct or change anything. And Mr. Mayor...these values ARE NOT AMERICAN VALUES.
Rahm you moron...this Chick Fil A thing backfired on you...didn't it buddy?
Lance DeBoyle| 8.2.12 @ 1:57PM
Breathtaking conflation of Romney with the Tea Party. Mitt reminds me of an old saying about boar hogs.
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 2:11PM
Aware writes: "One side thinks the State keeps us "safe" and the other thinks it keeps us "fed"."
The entire purpose of forming a government of any sort, is the protection of life and property. There is nothing "non right" about desiring a state that keeps us safe.
In fact, that purpose of government is authorized in Article 1, Section 8, Clauses 11-16.
JD| 8.2.12 @ 2:13PM
The key is he equates government required to provide security with the "big government" that provides social entitlements. This is a false equivalence. One is a fraction of the size of the other.
Truncheon| 8.2.12 @ 2:22PM
Precisely.
Leonard Gilbert| 8.3.12 @ 2:39PM
Problem is...neither of those sides contribute.
Jacobite| 8.2.12 @ 2:16PM
This is misdirection. The single most important vanguard of Leftism in the US were the Frankfurt School refugees that the US admitted in the 30s. They destroyed US higher education. Various members also wrote popular books, advancing Freudianism, atheism, if-it-feels-good-do-it morality, sexual perversity, etc., etc., etc. Of course, Leftism is un-American, and it was advanced by non-Americans. The tsunami of non-American-type immigrants at the turn of the 20th Century made Leftism here possible, These Southern and Eastern European, East Asian, and SW Asian immigrants were innately non-American and never had a possibility of adapting to American society. It worked out then just as the same process is being repeated today -- American society was twisted and warped to adapt to the new alien peoples ("for English, dial 1").
PJ| 8.2.12 @ 3:43PM
I somewhat disagree with you.
THe immigrants from southern & eastern Europe were Christians or Jews., both groups either living in a western civilization or at least familiar with it based on their religious beliefs. They were easy to assimilate into Amercian society because trans-atlantic transportation was difficult(couldn't easily go back home) & there was no assistance from the govn't. The assistance came from non-profits who received donations from individuals. In other words the immigrants prior to WW2 were forced to swim or sink.
Today, it is different because the opposite reasons that I stated are taking place.
GDJ| 8.2.12 @ 3:21PM
What a bunch of "progressive" hog wash. romney is no more a conservative than my television. He's a neocon which is a neoliberal.
mitt will offer the same destination with a slightly different rate of descent.
Minuteman78| 8.2.12 @ 3:53PM
Interesting that a courageous but simple man like Lech Walesa sees something so clearly that the leftists/progressives totally miss: Success in Europe and the rest of the world is dependent on success in the U.S. The converse is also true - if the U.S. fails, so will the rest of the world. The reason is simple: We're the people who do the damn work that MATTERS. More precisely, the capitalist system rewards creation of VALUE, not just busy-work or redistribution. But producing value requires effort, which must be rewarded otherwise no one has any incentives to work, let alone take risks. The lefties just don't understand or plain refuse to believe this fundamental truth, which is why most of their politics has to do with corruption, payoffs to special interest groups and character assassination - they can't win on the merits of their arguments because there are no merits.
JohnTee| 8.2.12 @ 6:37PM
"The Great Rediscovery of American Values" and not one word about Glenn Beck! Were you unconscious all last weekend when Glenn was Restoring Love in Dallas in the stadium? It's ironic that the same folks were excoriating Santorum for not harping on the economy and leaving the social issues off the table are now celebrating the Great Restoration" The conservative movement has an establishment just as biased as the GOP. Glenn has been ahead of you since he left Fox, and he filled the mall in DC as well as Cowboy Stadium to prove it. Wake Up.
Bob From District 9| 8.2.12 @ 8:27PM
Too bad common sense does not include Jeffrey Lord.
How can you talk about the staggering debt in an article filled with praise for Reagan, without mentioning that Reagan inherited a debt of less than $1trillion, and between Reagan and Bush I left Clinton a debt that had quadrupled to over $4 trillion? How can you praise any republicans when the only president since LBJ to have a balanced budget was Clinton? Eisenhower was the only republican after WWII to balance a budget. That's the same Eisenhower he called a progressive.
Obama inherited a national debt of $11.7 trillion, and 85% of GDP, and a new Great Recession. All Romney will do about that is turn it into a new Great Depression.
Welcome the USA to the ranks of the Third World under Romney. Tea Baggers, enjoy your victory.
MJ| 8.2.12 @ 9:50PM
Pretty much all true, but Obama intends to steal it. If it's at all close, he will succeed.
Purp| 8.2.12 @ 10:46PM
The election is over ... Evil Mitty will not win. No one, I mean no one likes him or trusts him. Now we hear he paid NO TAXES for 10 years.
Carrstone| 8.3.12 @ 3:40AM
Great stuff, Mr Lord. I'm a European who has been envious of the sense of individual independence manifest in every American I have met outside the US. I snowbird annually and have noticed an increased response, however, to the prog's 'freeby' culture, so familiar to me from Europe.
But, what to do, what to do?
Belianis | 8.3.12 @ 9:45AM
A lot of people here are forgetting the task at hand:
OVERTHROWING THE OBAMINATION KAKISTOCRACY=GOVERNMENT OF THE WORST
Romney is not perfect?--neither was Reagan in 1980. I say give Gov Romney a chance; 'tis better than the alternative.
freeper7| 8.3.12 @ 10:21AM
I am curious regarding the use of "John Hopkins."
I believe the correct use is "Johns Hopkins," awkward but accurate, no?