Is Huma Abedin the new Alger Hiss?
Is Huma Abedin to the Muslim Brotherhood what Alger Hiss was to
the Soviet Union?
Why are Republican Senator John McCain, Republican Speaker of
the House John Boehner and House Intelligence Committee Chairman
Mike Rodgers (R-MI) acting in the growing Abedin controversy as
Washington Establishment Democrats of the 1940s did in the Hiss
episode? Which is to say, writing off the dangers of a foreign
enemy whose goal is to infiltrate the U.S. government — because,
well, the people in question are part of the Washington
Establishment?
And last but certainly not least, why is the Republican
Establishment pursuing a losing strategy in the war against Islamic
radicalism? Is it returning to the losing strategy it pursued
during the Cold War — a strategy that was overturned over
Establishment opposition by Ronald Reagan’s victorious “we win,
they lose” strategy?
These questions arise because of McCain’s vehement attack on
Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann. Bachmann, along with four
other conservative House members (Louis Gohmert of Texas, Trent
Franks of Arizona, Thomas Rooney of Florida and Lynn Westmoreland
of Georgia), has written a series of hotly controversial
letters.
What did Bachmann and the others do to infuriate McCain? And
draw a rebuke from Boehner and Rodgers?
The five House members
wrote letters to the Inspector Generals of the Departments of
State, Justice, Defense, and Homeland Security — along with a
fifth to the IG in the Office of the Director of National
Intelligence.
Asking?
Asking that the recipients take seriously the possibility that
the Muslim Brotherhood is becoming a security threat within the
government of the United States itself.
The congressional group cited chapter and verse to back up their
concerns. This included the reference in the State Department
letter to Ms. Abedin, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s deputy
chief of staff. As the letters were individualized to five
different departments, Abedin was mentioned only in the State
Department letter, with other people or issues mentioned as
relevant to the respective department receiving each individual
letters. So Abedin was most certainly not alone.
So why all the fuss from McCain and the others that focused on
Huma? After all, the government itself has reported that an
unwillingness to recognize the presence of Islamic extremism in the
military is exactly what caused the Ft. Hood shootings by Maj.
Nidal Hasan, a man whose sympathies with Islamic extremism was
well-known but fatefully ignored by his superiors. What is so
disreputable about raising the very same questions about Ms.
Abedin, her security clearances, and the Muslim Brotherhood?
There are two serious points at issue here. Let’s start with the
Washington Establishment and Huma Abedin. Why all the fuss
over the mention of Huma?
Because Ms. Abedin’s prominence comes both because of her
position in the State Department — and her political connections
through her husband.
Ms. Abedin, if known at all outside the corridors of Washington
and Establishment power, is prominent because of her marriage to
now-former New York Congressman Anthony Weiner. Yes, that Anthony
Weiner, the Democrat who departed the House in haste when it became
clear that was he was busy texting pictures of his… uh… nether
regions to various women.
But as Bachmann and company point out, Ms. Abedin plays a much
more serious role in her own job as a senior aide to Secretary
Clinton. (Abedin also worked in the Clinton White House as
well.)
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 7.24.12 @ 6:19AM
That would lead to a second question.
Is the Republican Party the New Democrats?
JP| 7.24.12 @ 7:23AM
The GOP has become the Conservative Wing of the Democrat Party.
chuck| 7.24.12 @ 7:27AM
Conservative?
JP| 7.24.12 @ 10:32AM
Only in a relative sense. Heck, Senator Durbin looks conservative when compared to Schumer
AmericanCynic| 7.24.12 @ 12:46PM
Exactly, it's the other way around. Many Democrats have become the Moderate Wing of the GOP.
RJ| 7.24.12 @ 7:36AM
Rinos frequently remind me of the "Washington Generals" playing against the Harlem Globetrotters - they seem to do all they can to ensure a loss on our side. Hard to see how anything good can happen in Congress with Boehner in a leadership position.
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 8:07AM
Great comparison.
Brookschwarzenegro | 7.24.12 @ 8:09AM
You are going to have to come to an agreement with Islam as Nixon came to an agreement with China in '71.
Dai Alanye | 7.24.12 @ 8:38AM
BSN's comparison is quite false. To parallel what Nixon did would require the US to come to an arrangement with Sufism versus Sunni and Shia. Or perhaps Buddhism vs. Islam.
Not that I necessarily favor either of these moves.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 9:07AM
If any Republican Politician sat in a White Racist's Church for 20 Minutes, let alone 20 YEARS, how long would it take for the Press to Dogpile him in to Oblivion? What if that Minister Hated Jews? What if he Hated Blacks, Jews, AND America?
What if this Republican was FRIENDS for the last 20 YEARS, with somebody like Timothy McVeigh? A Domestic Terrorist, who's goal it was, to bring this Country to its knees, and had already Killed Cops, Blown up Recruiting Stations, and Bombed the Pentagon?
What if a Sitting Republican President was Charged with RAPE, on National Television, on the Left's favourite Show - 60 Minutes? Would that be a problem?
What if he was charged with GROPING another Woman, inside the Oval Office, as she sought out his help, while her Husband Lay Dying, on that same Favourite Show, a few weeks before?
Or, if he LIED to a Federal Grand Jury at his INDECENT EXPOSURE Trial?
What if he REFUSED to release controversial Documents that he had Sealed in a Vault, and has spent MILLIONS, to keep them locked away?
What if a Secretary of State, had an Assistant who's Family was UP TO THEIR ASS in a Terrorist Organization?
One wonders how long this Muslim Matahari was Pumping Wiener for information.
What if we had a Press, and a Media, that did its job?
What if there were Woodwards and Bernsteins, all over the place, all of the time, and not just when a Republican was in charge.
I look FOREWARD to the next attack.
Maybe that'll wake us up, again.
Maybe.
Brookschwarzenegro | 7.24.12 @ 11:10AM
Doesn't matter, you have to cut your losses with Islam.
Quartermaster| 7.24.12 @ 12:40PM
1 Mt ground burst nukes on Mecca and Medina would serve that pupose quite nicely.
Brookschwarzenegro | 7.24.12 @ 8:22PM
It's over, you have to come to a modus vivendi with Islam. You have no choice anymore.
MK48| 7.24.12 @ 11:16AM
TLP..........I see all the "usual suspects" in sensitive places. It's time we expose these evil people for who and what they are.
My faith in God tells me HE is in control and this might be His way of gathering His sheep for what is to come. I still have faith in my fellow man to wake up and do the right thing.
America need not fear so much the enemy at the gates, but high vigilance must be paid to the enemys from with in.
Mr. Lord as usual fine piece........
McCain....hear me loud and clear from one vet to another you disgust me.....you belong in the Jane Fonda Club.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 7:14PM
HE is in charge.
I've gotta believe that he sees us as the only Salvation for Israel.
Let's hope that sees us through, all of this.
Jacobite| 7.26.12 @ 5:43PM
Sr. Juan McCain may be the least-intelligent man ever graduated from the Naval Academy, but he is one guy. The enemy within America who most needs surveillance is the A-Jay. A-Jays are outsiders in every nation other than Israel. A-Jays have plenty of reason to suspect that every American they see is only a blink away from being a Klansman. Drop Bawney Fwank, Anthony Weiner, or Gerald Nadler off in most places in America, and things can definitely get ugly. So, the reasonable reaction from A-Jays has been to work for the crippling of American society, religion, culture, and education in every way possible. Weakening your enemy when outright domination isn't practical seems smart to me, and nobody thinks A-Jays aren't smart. Item: the ACLU. Item: the CPUSA. Item: the Frankfurt School, A-Jayish refugees from Germany, who abused foolish hospitality by destroying higher education in America within 30 years. In connection with the Frankfurt School, I read an article recently noting the amazing degeneration of American society between the 50s and the 70s. Only he who will not see doesn't understand how that happened -- Hollywood, academia, mass media, ACLU, trial lawyers, think-tanks, charitable foundations.... 'nuff said?
irish19| 7.24.12 @ 3:04PM
"One wonders how long this Muslim Matahari was Pumping Wiener for information."
LOL! Pumping Weiner's wiener indeed!
And given some of the rumors floating around, one must wonder about just what her level of "access" to Hillary is.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 7:15PM
Guilty, as charged.
Jacobite| 7.26.12 @ 5:06PM
Yes, the century-long war against American whites procedes. The difference between Hiss and Abedin is that Hiss was a traitor to his own (American) people, while Abedin's people are in SW Asia. She/they are not Americans and will never become Americans, any more than raising a Chihuahua puppy at a German Shepherd kennel will change the little critter into a junkyard dog. That "America is a creedal nation" is a lie so stupendous, that the old term "Big-Lie Technique" must be permanently retired from association with the Nazis (and what exactly were these 'big lies' anyhow?). Recall that the Nazi's arch-enemies were the Communists, who do/did/will-always lie more often than Satan, the Father of Lies, himself.
loulou| 7.24.12 @ 10:43AM
Brilliant.
Jack in Wi| 7.24.12 @ 8:39AM
A Saudi Muslim married to Jew. This is just more race baiting by Bachman. She is so in the pocket of the extremists of both the wacko Christian right and the crazy Zionists on the West bank. Of course the establishment is going to defend Huma. She is from the 2 most influential and crooked lobbies in Washington, the Saudi's, and the Zionists. Bachman needs to get over all this crap and move on to some thing that Americans care about. That sure as hell isn't this issue.
Ryan| 7.24.12 @ 8:48AM
Is she wrong to question?
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 9:15AM
And, in whose squeaky-clean pocket is Hillary?
Doctor Right| 7.24.12 @ 9:35AM
Jack..."Defender of the Jews"!!!
Now THAT'S funny!
Hey, Jack...now that Ron Paul has officially dropped-out of the race, what's going to happen to your tuxedo?
Brookschwarzenegro | 7.24.12 @ 11:12AM
"what's going to happen to your tuxedo?"
Doc,
Can't speak for Jack, but I'm going to wear my tux to Obama's second inauguration-- will you be there too?
irish19| 7.24.12 @ 3:05PM
"what's going to happen to your tuxedo?"
I wondered that myself-although I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for an answer.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:15PM
"What's gonna happen to your Tuxedo?"
Nice.
Mike G| 7.24.12 @ 9:58AM
"A Saudi Muslim married to Jew."
I don't know, Jack...sounds like the perfect cover for an Islamic spy...like something you'd see in a movie... Maybe her husband doesn't even realize ... We all know how wackos like to imitate Hollywood movies...maybe that's what she's doing...I'm just saying...Not very believable? Maybe not, but it's sort of like someone bringing an assault rifle to a movie...Who would have thought it?
satan| 7.24.12 @ 10:19AM
Of course, but the sane people among us don't base our politics or worldview on what happens in the movies. After all, isn't Hollywood supposed to be a hot bed of commie liberal traitors. I wish cons could get their delusions straight.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:17PM
I don't know about anybody else, but I find satan's support of the Democrats, reassuring.
loulou| 7.24.12 @ 10:44AM
Stupid Weiner doesn't realize he's just a useful idiot.
dnha14| 7.24.12 @ 5:15PM
Anyone as insecure as someone that sends pix of his unit to people is probably dorky enough to believe that a gorgeous woman would marry him. If she's so darn smart, why does she want to hang with that goofball. There has to be some ulterior motive for the hook-up. Islam encourages arranged marriages. Perhaps this was one of them.
MK48| 7.24.12 @ 7:48PM
dnha14...that includes the Black Jesus arranged "Down Low" marriage.
Stuart Koehl| 7.24.12 @ 10:14AM
Jack has never applied for a security clearance, that much is clear.
MK48| 7.24.12 @ 11:19AM
Jack............do you just comment to hear yourself talk ......as usual you talk like a man with a paper assh*le.
Mr. Kimber| 7.24.12 @ 11:38AM
A Muslim women married to a Jew is probably a death sentence I would think.
Cloudbuster | 7.24.12 @ 12:04PM
Not if she's a spy. They will overlook any number of usual moral transgressions in the name of jihad.
TrueBlue | 7.24.12 @ 5:43PM
Exactly. They are allowed to do pretty much anything normally considered a sin so long as it advances the cause. Should read their book sometime.
Quartermaster| 7.24.12 @ 12:42PM
Jack, Bachmann is right to ask the question. She would be remiss, in fact, if she did not. It bothered me to see the same sort of thing with Jewish Neocons in Dubya's maladminstration.
Brookschwarzenegro | 7.24.12 @ 7:53PM
"Dubya's maladminstration."
probably even Ted Kennedy knew things were better in the '80s than when Rove and Cheney ruled.
philippic| 7.24.12 @ 9:17PM
well...you know...murderers can be fickle!!!
Suzyqpie| 7.24.12 @ 8:22PM
Islam said I come to kill you. What part do you not understand?
Lin| 7.25.12 @ 1:19PM
This is an interesting point. Muslim men may marry non-muslim women, but the reverse is most definitely NOT true. If Huma's relatives are even marginally observant (and they are), then they would consider the marriage to be completely illegitimate and a very ugly, egregious violation of shariah. Yet they do not seem to be all that upset about it. . . . One possibility: they believe her marriage serves a higher purpose, namely the furtherance of islam, the ummah and the advancement and eventual triumph of islamic law (kinda of like the recent Sodomy fatwa, in which that which was impermissible, Sodomy, became permissible because it served a greater purpose - in that case making room for a suicidal "butt bomb"). Not to say Huma sees it that way, but it is very likely that her relatives do.
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 7.25.12 @ 6:21PM
Well, at least we can always count on good ole Jihad Jack to take up for terrorists. After all, if its bad for Jews, then it MUST be good for Jack.
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 6:48AM
The protests by John McCain, John Boehner and Mike Rodgers (R-MI) raise more concerns about them than anything Michele Bachmann ever did or said. Like our Dear Leader slapping down the individual struggles of entrepreneurship, these three entrenched members of the DC ruling class have let slip their true nature.
As said before, along with 100% predictable Democrats, turncoat Republicans are the enemy. They prove it every day. The only solution is Tea Party primary victories.
Fast and Curious| 7.24.12 @ 8:26AM
Typical Republican: "Islam is not the problem. The religion has been hijacked by a tiny percentage of extremists."
This is absolutely not true. I would describe the situation accurately: "There is a significant percentage of Muslims who follow the teachings of their religion obediently.". And those who do not, with a tiny few exceptions, do not care to comment on the actions of the others.
Ask this woman to denounce the Muslim Brotherhood- that's a good start.
Ryan| 7.24.12 @ 8:49AM
Your post is exactly why I avoid the terms "extremist" and "fundamentalist" when it comes to Islam - I believe that "militant" is a far better term, because the other two mean different things to different people.
satan| 7.24.12 @ 10:21AM
Poor Gary, stabbed in the back again.
loulou| 7.24.12 @ 10:46AM
It comes down to Saudi money.
Republicans in VA (McDonnell, Cuccinelli, etc.) are lapping it up.
A. C. Santore| 7.24.12 @ 11:00AM
1. McCarthy was right. I read about a dozen books on what he did, as well as on the Venona Project, and Whittaker Chambers' book. Only the insistence of the left has continued to try to convince us otherwise.
2. McCain is, sadly, well past his sell-by date. He is obviously reading and believing his own version of his value and effectiveness. I won't go as far as some of these posts suggest, but he has to go.
His absurd attempts to co-operate with the left are harming the country.
3. Bachmann will be vilified for telling the truth, count on it.
4. Jeffrey Lord's article is absolutely spot on! Thanks, Mr. Lord.
Quartermaster| 7.24.12 @ 12:45PM
McShamnesty has become a man without honor. His military service was commendable, but his behavior since returning from the Hanoi Hilton has been one shameful episode after another. His fall from honor began with his abandonment of a faithful wife and led to the idiot he is now. Arizona has repeatedly shamed itself electing this man to office.
btims86| 7.24.12 @ 6:53AM
It's probably too late.....we have Moooslims intimately involved with the White House, State Dept, Homeland Security Dept, Defense Dept.
We have open homosexuals and cross-dressers in the Armed Forces.
We refuse to enforce the borders and immigration laws, refuse to deport the 15-20 million illegal aliens here and working here illegally. We simply lack the will.
The leftist's have already changed the country. It's too late to save and it's probably not worth saving anymore anyway.
Paul H.| 7.24.12 @ 7:40AM
Years ago, when I first learned to fly, part of the curriculum promulgated by the FAA was the psychological aspect of flying. Among the topics was what the FAA calls "The Five Hazardous Attitudes", one of which is resignation. The FAA determined that this attitude killed pilots unnecessarily. So either you are part of the "conspiracy" to suppress resistance or you are a loser who has decided to crash and burn.
Which is it then?
Best regards to everyone else.
MK48| 7.24.12 @ 11:24AM
BTIMS86........I sure wouldn't want to be in a foxhole with you............where is your courage.
You are part of the problem no backbone..........go drink some cool-aid.
btims86| 7.24.12 @ 1:52PM
MK48 - yeah my friend, you're gonna change the culture, the politics. Dream on.
Wake up. We're no longer the same country. Leftism has infiltrated nearly everything, including now the Armed Forces. The liberals knew the military was the last bastion of mostly Caucasian, mostly male, mostly right-of-center people and they had to break it by filling the military with women, homo's, forgeign-born "immigrants", Muslims, etc. They had to break that culture and they have succeeded.
irish19| 7.24.12 @ 3:09PM
I, for one, am not giving up on this country. You are right that the problems are serious. They are not hopeless. Fixing them will not be pretty, but it can be done. Getting Oblowme out of the White House is the first step.
MK48| 7.24.12 @ 8:01PM
19.......please talk to btims86 he thinks just because the military is tanted the world is at end.
I am with you I have faith in Him and also my fellow man we can slow this train down I don't know if we will ever get back to the station of 40 years ago.
My parrents didn't give up and I guess it's in my blood. I am willing to to what ever it takes to make this country a better place for my kids and grandkids.
btims86............no ammo for you I need someone who is willing to put their life on the line to make it better for others.......you might just give up and shoot me.
Joellen| 7.24.12 @ 6:58AM
And its not like we've not seen questionable alliances by our leaders before. Anyone remember Jim McGreevy and the man he allegedly sexually attacked, Golin Cipel. McGreevy appointed him as homeland security adivsor and the guy had no experience whatsoever. This occured right after SEPTEMBER 11, 2011. QUESTION everything folks; and send Michelle Backman some funds so that she gets re-elected. Call McCain and Boehner's office and demand they apoligize to the good Congresswoman in public and PRAY. Gosh we are in need of prayer, this country is overrun with those who wish to destroy it.
Ken (Old Texican)| 7.24.12 @ 7:06AM
Mr. Boehner,
Get your stuff stacked. Fire Hillary Clinton and her "advisor" is out of work.
Creeping Sharia is one of our major threats. Get 'em all out of government.
benny havens| 7.24.12 @ 7:11AM
Remember at the onset of the “Arab Spring” in Egypt, Secretary Clinton’s response to questions about what role the Muslim Brotherhood would play in the new government there? Oh, there is no concern with them; they make up a very small portion of this movement.
I can see that Secretary Clinton is really at the top of her game, isn’t she?
satan| 7.24.12 @ 10:25AM
More like creeping paranoia, Ken, which as you know is a mental disorder.
Ken (Old Texican)| 7.24.12 @ 10:57AM
Satan...get thee behind me.
I'm not paranoid...just seen lot of history in my face.
canuckistani| 7.24.12 @ 11:14AM
What history parallels this tripe?
The MB won the election with an excellent ground game that has been gearing up for 30 years.
When they act in a malicious way - like abandoning the Israeli peace pact or closing the Suez, then we can react. Until then, like we demand of other countries, "stay the heck out of our affairs". Egypt is a complex country with monied interests far outside of religious mysticism. The MB will be forced to acquiesce due these forces alone.
We have more election irregularities each cycle than any other 1st world nation. As the last great bastion of freedom and democracy, do you not think we should get our own act together instead of these faux attacks at countries with nowhere near the resources we have?
Quartermaster| 7.24.12 @ 12:46PM
The MB couldn't care less about those monied interests. Those interests will comply, or they will be killed. That fear is rife among the Saudi Royal Family as well.
Paul H.| 7.24.12 @ 7:18AM
When McCarthy's article first came out I posted "Does the name Alger Hiss ring a bell", they did not publish my comment.
Now I ask what about Grover Norquist?
I fear we have a "fifth column" in the GOP.
Best regards to all.
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 8:11AM
The GOP is the fifth column. Their stock in trade: deception.
Doctor Right| 7.24.12 @ 9:36AM
More like stupidity...
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 11:08AM
That, too...
loulou| 7.24.12 @ 10:49AM
If you want to know about the Muslim Norquist, ask Debbie Schlussel. Debbie knows everything there is to know about the infiltration of Muslims in Homeland Security and the state of Michigan.
DebbieSchlussel.com
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 7:29AM
If any Republican Politician sat in a White Racist's Church for 20 Minutes, let alone 20 YEARS, how long would it take for the Press to Dogpile him in to Oblivion? What if that Minister Hated Jews? What if he Hated Blacks, Jews, AND America?
What if this Republican was FRIENDS for the last 20 YEARS, with somebody like Timothy McVeigh? A Domestic Terrorist, who's goal it was, to bring this Country to its knees, and had already Killed Cops, Blown up Recruiting Stations, and Bombed the Pentagon?
What if a Sitting Republican President was Charged with RAPE, on National Television, on the Left's favourite Show - 60 Minutes? Would that be a problem?
What if he was charged with GROPING another Woman, inside the Oval Office, as she sought out his help, while her Husband Lay Dying, on that same Favourite Show, a few weeks before?
Or, if he LIED to a Federal Grand Jury at his INDECENT EXPOSURE Trial?
What if he REFUSED to release controversial Documents that he had Sealed in a Vault, and has spent MILLIONS, to keep them locked away?
What if a Secretary of State, had an Assistant who's Family was UP TO THEIR ASS in a Terrorist Organization?
One wonders how long this Muslim Matahari was Pumping Wiener for information.
What if we had a Press, and a Media, that did its job?
What if there were Woodwards and Bernsteins, all over the place, all of the time, and not just when a Republican was in charge.
I look FOREWARD to the next attack.
Maybe that'll wake us up, again.
Maybe.
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 8:18AM
What if the president and first "lady" sold missile secrets to China for campaign cash?
What if the president promised to lay down in the Middle East in return for foreign campaign cash?
What if a president ignored a federal court order and continued to ban lawful drilling.
Add to that Republicans who feign outrage, then fade away.
It goes on and on and on...
The country is not without hope. DC is.
John786| 7.24.12 @ 8:11AM
The woman is clearly an undercover Brother ( funny movie by the way ). The evidence is clear: she's a highly educated, Beautiful woman married to a Jewish man. Its obvious to anyone with a brain. Sorry- just having a laugh at you bozos. Did you know that the earth was created only 10 thousand years ago. Its true because saint Bachman says so. Oh! Those scientist they're just lying commies.. Boy oh boy what deep nasty crevice the right have fallen into it. Ramadan kareem.
satan| 7.24.12 @ 10:29AM
Crevice? Is that why there is such an echo whenever one of them speaks?
JP| 7.24.12 @ 11:49AM
I don't think attending George Washington University makes her "highly educated". As far as public records are concerned, she never attended graduate school, law school, or recieved any specialized training. All of a sudden she gets a highly coveted position as WH intern. We really don't know much about her,other than what the Borg allows us to know.
Drunken Sailor| 7.24.12 @ 12:10PM
Rumors abound about her and Hillary's real relationship. Don't think it's true but would not be the least surprised.
JimH| 7.24.12 @ 8:18AM
First and foremost these pols protect their own. This attitude transcends party affiliation. Hillary is a member of the club, so it will not do to have her inconvenienced much less embarrassed.
R Martin| 7.24.12 @ 8:25AM
Well written, Mr. Lord. Whether you put an R or a D in front of the word “Establishment” they are the same people who have driven this country toward a fiscal cliff and international decline through their appalling nearsightedness and dangerous philosophical beliefs.
I would add another example—China. It has been obvious for decades that communist China is a real and serious economic, political and military adversary of the United States. Yet the “Establishment” not only fails to recognize the threat, they abet China’s march (another Great March Forward?) at every opportunity. Whether it is the sale of satellite, missile and nuclear technology by Clinton, excusing Wen Ho Lee of espionage or simply accepting Chinese funding of our deficits with a submissive bow, our Chinese policies are going to cost us dearly at some point.
BackToBasics| 7.24.12 @ 1:24PM
from your post - "they abet China’s march "
Totally agree and and agree about the ultimate outcome but also in the short-term they are doing it at the expense of American jobs.
MelvinNC| 7.24.12 @ 8:29AM
I am a former recovering Republican thanks to that that sniveling, snake in grass Senator John McCain. And I'll call out Az voters. "Good people of Arizona who have taken up the cause against big expensive government, then you turn around and vote for that Octogenarian turncoat." Maybe it was a brief moment of mass hysteria.
Anyway we're all stuck with Mr. flaccidity and his running partner Lindsay Graham of South Carolina.
I wonder who is the poor unfortunate person over at the RNC that has the dubious honor of getting stuck with the job of changing the adult diapers on these primadinos from the tar pits of hell?
Michelle Bachman is paying the price of crossing this ancient sect of Liberal voodoo worshiping Republican Elitists, who wets themselves every time a TV crew comes their way.
The Establishment Republicans are going after Bachman the same way their going after Allen West of Florida. Their intent is going after Tea Party backed Congressmen and Congresswomen as well to discourage any independent thinking candidates.
satan| 7.24.12 @ 10:32AM
Pointing out that a salaried public servant is bat guano crazy, is not "going after them".
Skippy| 7.24.12 @ 5:14PM
Hang Huma.
We already know how Tony is hung.
MK48| 7.24.12 @ 11:31AM
MEL.........good one
Dai Alanye | 7.24.12 @ 8:48AM
During the Cold War my request for Secret clearance was challenged due to my wife's maiden name being Eastern European. She was third-generation American, so the challenge was dropped, but had she been first- or even second-generation matters might have turned out differently.
It's easy to imagine what the case would have been had I been the Eastern European. Huma has no rational complaint about being investigated.
Ryan| 7.24.12 @ 8:52AM
As much as I think that Bachmann has been inept at times and tended to overstatement, I believe she has a point here with what she is doing. What we are NOT hearing is some "wait and see" language from much of anyone, however....
Anthony| 7.24.12 @ 9:04AM
Mark Levin and NRO's Andrew McCarthy did a supurb expose on this entire sordid mess by the RINOs in Washington, led by the chief sclerotic RINO, John McLame.
Mr. Lord has also put his finger on why McLame and company see fit, not only to defend Clinton's aide, but vocally attack a fellow Republican, just trying to do her job for WE, the PEOPLE. Who??? As if the Ds would do the same if the shoe was reversed. This is the putrid fecklessness of RINOism.
This is Washington establishementism at its very worse. McLame for his personal ego and bona fides with the establishment, has done a 180 on the Muslim Brotherhood, which he strongly condemned just a year ago. History is indeed repeating itself, this time in the name of Allah, not Marx, Marxism is Obozo's job.
TheWashington R Party is sick, anemic, and weak. As Boehner famously intoned about the debt ceiling crisis a year ago, "get your asses in line, this is how things are done in Washington."
If Romney blows this election, the R party is finished, dead. If Romeny wins this election, the R party is finished as it is currently comprised.
We need to rid American politics of leftism and its weak sister, RINOism. We start in November. Now, will somebody remind McLame to change his Depends, he's been stinking real bad for a long time!!!
DJ | 7.24.12 @ 9:35AM
I couldn't agree more. I am afraid that the GOP in its current state is DEAD! If OB wins this election it is the end of our country.
Doctor Right| 7.24.12 @ 9:47AM
I really don't are about the fate of the GOP; the only reason I'm a Republican at all is because at present, they are the only national Party that gives Conservatives a seat at the table.
But that may be changing, and fools like McCain, Boehner, Graham (who is being blackmailed), et al, seem hell-bent on purging Conservatives, or at the very least silencing them.
If that's what they want, so be it. I strongly believe that a viable 3rd-Party composed of patriotic Americans across the political spectrum can be formed to blunt the power of the GOP and the Democrats.
...And I think the seeds may have already been planted.
loulou| 7.24.12 @ 10:52AM
No reason to blackmail Graham--everybody knows.
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 11:14AM
Doctor Right: Ditto
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:25PM
I can't even to begin to list the reasons why a Third Party is the Stupidest Idea on the Planet.
So I'll just say - Ross Perot.
CJW| 7.24.12 @ 9:06AM
McCain has made a career of attacking fellow Republicans believing he is a "maverick." Had he attacked Obama as he attacked Republicans he may have won. I respect his service and bravery in the prison camp, but he is a lousy senator.
loulou| 7.24.12 @ 10:58AM
I have no need to intone the obligatory, "I respect his service..." McCain's behavior in the past decade has undone any bravery he may have shown as a POW.
McCain is filth. A doddering,narcisistic fool.
canuckistani| 7.24.12 @ 11:08AM
And Bachmann is not?
Be careful what you wish for.....
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 11:15AM
No, she's not.
MK48| 7.24.12 @ 11:35AM
Mc... is a member of the Jane Fonda Club.........
CJW| 7.24.12 @ 3:07PM
It is not obigatory on my part. You respect who you want and I will respect who I want.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:27PM
I served, and I think he's a Fckng Douchebag.
Skippy| 7.24.12 @ 5:20PM
I heard his "courageous" service included crashing every warplane he strapped into; deliberately firing his missiles on the deck of a carrier 'cuz he was mad at some guy(dozens were killed); spilling his guts for Ho Chi Minh; and implicating fellow POW's to stop his own torture.
Combine that with his perfect record of collaborating with the enemy(Dems)and criticizing conservatives, and McCain is the perfect.....Democrat.
And scumbag.
Mimi | 7.24.12 @ 9:16AM
Looks to me like Hillary got the ear of Sen.John McCain.....Now he has embarrassed himself.
Huma should have been checked out ages ago...and by none other than Hillary herself!!!
I PRAY we do not have to experience a 9/11 before we wake -up to the intentions of the Muslim Brotherhood in this country. The security of this nation is PRIMARY and if some toes are stepped on so be it!
We applaud Michelle Bachmann....Thank God someone in Washington D.C. is looking out for us and enduring the FLACK for us!
MK48| 7.24.12 @ 11:38AM
Mimi.........Hillary is part of the problem....but you already knew that.
rjh| 7.24.12 @ 9:22AM
As a retired military officer, I know that Abedin and obama would not have passed even the most rudimentary background check to obtain a security clearance years ago based on their associations. But that was before political correctness and multiculturalism took over our government.
satan| 7.24.12 @ 10:34AM
Because guilt by association is a bedrock American value.
John Navratil| 7.24.12 @ 11:15AM
satan,
No! But they are relevant to security clearances which are not a right defined under the Constitution. Apply for one and see.
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 11:19AM
And you're claiming it's not a liberal value? Just curious, what do you care about American values?
Ryan| 7.24.12 @ 11:32AM
When it comes to national security clearances, associations need to be questioned properly.
rjh| 7.24.12 @ 11:37AM
satan is merely demonstrating his ignorance of the security clearance process.
Skippy| 7.24.12 @ 5:21PM
satan would be laughed out of the office where he submitted his TS clearance application, then be arrested.
canuckistani| 7.24.12 @ 11:04AM
That is amusing knowing that the totality of spies caught during the cold war were either disaffected WASPs or zionists. The Japanese put in concentration camps and German Americans that changed their names can testify to that folly.
FDR kissed Bin Saud's ass in the thirties and every president since then has done so.....to every American's approval.
When people on here realize that world leaders - religious or not - cling to their power at all costs, we can finally describe American foreign policy for the last 80 years. Just a series of incentives and penalties meted out based on typical American ADHD. We suck at diplomacy, so we go lowest common denominator every time.
C. Vernon Crisler | 7.24.12 @ 9:30AM
I think we should leave it up to the FBI or even CIA to determine if someone is a security threat. Congressmen just aren't very good at it, and they are often a far worse security threat to our nation than any individual could be.
R Martin| 7.24.12 @ 10:05AM
Mr. Lord's piece specifically refutes your point about congressmen. And what is the CIA's stated main objective today? Diversity. Our security is better in Bachman's hands.
C. Vernon Crisler | 7.24.12 @ 12:48PM
Er, Lord doesn't refute anything I said. This is not Lord at his best. Unlike Hiss, no one has ever accused Abedin of being a spy. And what exactly is the problem in having a Moslem, or someone who knows about the Moslem Botherhood, as an adviser? If we have a weak or feckless foreign policy, it starts at the top, with Obama, and secondarily with Hillary, not with obscure advisers. Mrs. Abedin has enough hell to go through right now being married to Weiner without Michelle or Lord or others questioning her patriotism (without a shred of evidence).
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:29PM
Was she Vetted?
Of course not.
So STFU.
C. Vernon Crisler | 7.24.12 @ 4:37PM
TLP, We encourage readers to share and discuss their thoughtful and relevant comments about this Spectator article. Comments are routinely monitored and will be deleted if profane, bigoted, or grossly impolite. Please be respectful. (And don't feed the trolls!) Thank you
JP| 7.24.12 @ 10:20AM
If you consider that Hillary's State Department is holding up the passports of CIA case officers it doesn't like, we all know how much influence the CIA has. Ditto for the FBI. I seriously doubt that Hillary had Huma go through the normal polygraph exams most high level State Dept employees go through. Huma is a political appointee and would not have to be vetted by Congress.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:29PM
Welcome to Amerika.
MK48| 7.24.12 @ 8:12PM
C.........how much power do you think the FBI and CIA have now ?
DJ | 7.24.12 @ 9:31AM
John McCain is an idiot! He is a deterrent and an embarrassment to the party. He handed the presidency to OB and is doing irreparable damage now. Unload this myopic, radical curmudgeon.
Jack London| 7.24.12 @ 9:35AM
"Is Huma Abedin the new Alger Hiss?"
No.
JP| 7.24.12 @ 10:39AM
I think Jeff Lord went a bit overboard. But, Bachman has raised serious and legitimate concerns in light of the State Department's actions concerning the MB. It isn't that Huma Abedin is a traitor. But, her influence cannot be denied.
loulou| 7.24.12 @ 10:59AM
How do you know Huma is not a traitor?
Do you have some inside info?
canuckistani| 7.24.12 @ 11:06AM
What about you and your Unamerican views on shared sacrifice and defending the union?
JP| 7.24.12 @ 11:45AM
You ever hear of the null hypothesis? And in our system of law it is up to the prosecution to prove the crime. You cannot say that Huma is a traitor just because she is an arab working for Hillary.
loulou| 7.24.12 @ 12:14PM
And you can't say she ISN'T.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:32PM
She's not just an Arab working for Hillary.
HER FAMILY is up to their ASSES, in The Muslim Brotherhood.
Hello?
RAM| 7.24.12 @ 9:45AM
Ask yourself why conservative Republicans fraternize with Grover Norquist, a major shill for the Arabs. It's not just the RINOs.
loulou| 7.24.12 @ 11:00AM
It's for the money.
Ask Gov McDonnell and Ken Cuccinelli of VA!
Stuart Koehl| 7.24.12 @ 10:12AM
Huma Weiner? Sounds like a Middle Eastern vegetarian hot dog.
canuckistani| 7.24.12 @ 11:17AM
Typical from from Scotch Kraut.
Stuart Koehl| 7.25.12 @ 9:13AM
That would be Kohl, without the umlaut.
JP| 7.24.12 @ 3:10PM
At least Huma got her Wiener to "pull out" of the New York Mayor's race.
satan| 7.24.12 @ 10:13AM
That's an awful lot of verbiage to justify McCarthyism. couldn't you cut it back a little.
Jack of Spades| 7.24.12 @ 11:36AM
Ever read "Blacklisted by History" by M. Stanton Evans? "McCarthyism" was a term coined by liberals to discredit any notion of Communist infiltration of the government by individuals like Alger Hiss. Those questions turned out to be valid then. And your use of "McCarthyism" shows that that willful blindness is alive and well.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:34PM
He's satan?
What did you expect?
Anthony| 7.24.12 @ 2:27PM
You may actually have a point satan, Bobby and John Kennedy were far more eloquent in their support and justification of McCarthyism. Both big supporters of Chambers, you know, called him a hero, they did.
Why, lit'le Bobby was quite the rabid hardcore anti-commie in his day.
So fool, couldn't you try cutting the binding of a book, do some reading and actually learn something?
Imagine if we had something positive to say about your contributions, instead of our deserved ridicule of your daily stupidity.
Skippy| 7.24.12 @ 5:30PM
If Sen. McCarthy had been anything but absolutely correct, you might have a point.
JP| 7.24.12 @ 10:17AM
It is strange that her CV is so sparse. Wiki devoted two very short paragraphs. She attended George Washington University, and in 1996 was given a WH internship. It picks up again in 2009 when she became Hillary's Deputy Chief of Staff. Apparently she never went to grad school, and held only 2 jobs - intern and then one of the top slots at State. She never attended Georgetown's foreign service school; she isn't a lawyer, nor is she an "expert" in anything. For whatever reason, the Beltway Establishment has annointed her as "brilliant". But how would they know? She hasn't done anything. Apparently she spent several years in Jeddah living with her mother who is a professor there.
Very little is known about her, other than marrying someone who was once a rising star in the Democrat Party. Her friendship with the former First Lady appears to be her biggest asset. And of all people, Bill Clinton officiated her marriage to Weiner.
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 11:23AM
This is a lot like Obama's biography. There's nothing there.
Cloudbuster | 7.24.12 @ 12:10PM
At one time, there were rumors that she was Hillary's lover. Shortly after that, she started dating and eventually married Wiener.
Arranged marriage, if you ask me.
The only thing wrong with accusing Abedin of influencing foreign policy in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood is that you have to assume Hillary or Obama would have done anything differently in her absence. Seeing as they are both fellow globalists and traitors, that doesn't seem likely.
JP| 7.24.12 @ 1:31PM
I remember aound 2006-07 that nasty rumour that made its way around the blogesphere. For a few weeks during the 2008 primary it looked like it might go mainstream. But then Hillary's campaign imploded. This thing could be nothing. But, none of it adds up. And like Mr Lord wrote, why would McCain get involved? And why would Boehnner not defend one of his top lieutenants?All Bachman suggested is that State do its job and make sure Huma has been vetted. Obviously, Bachman has a problem with State cozying up to the MB. Obviously the GOP has no problem with State.
AllAmericanAmerican| 7.24.12 @ 10:19AM
What is "Islamic radicalism?" I often hear that phrase, or the phrase "Islamic extremists" when we refer to members of the religion of peace.
It seems to me in my reading of the koran, hadiths and sira the folks choosing to blow themselves up for the cause are not "radicals" or "extremists" but mainstream muslims. They are simply imitating their founder, the pedophile pirate mohammed, the one they consider the "perfect human."
So why do we play into this "radical" or "extremist" game, as if somehow they are misreading the koran? We do it to our detriment. We do it to the death of our culture. We do it to the death of civilization. We do it to the death of our children.
We must stop. We must recognize islam for what it is---no more qualifiers like "radical" or "extremist." Islam is simply islam, a death cult bent on world domination and the subjugation and exploitation of those who do not practice it. It is not a religion and it DOES NOT follow the teachings of the One True God.
I would argue it is the opposite.
Ryan| 7.25.12 @ 4:20PM
I like using the term "militant."
THKrupp| 7.24.12 @ 10:39AM
I think everyone serving in Government should be subject to an in depth background check. If there are questions about a person they need to be answered. Why does no one bring up that Michelle Bochman lived on a commune when she was younger. This has always bothered me about her.
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 11:26AM
Not to worry. Reagan started out as a Democrat.
Cloudbuster | 7.24.12 @ 12:11PM
Yes, Obama should be subject to a deep background check. And if his background doesn't qualify him for the very highest clearance, then maybe he shouldn't have the job -- at least, his failure to qualify should be public record.
nathan| 7.24.12 @ 10:53AM
My degree is in history and I'm all in favor of doing "lessons learned". We do it all the time in most any work we do. But I'm not at all sure that those who reach back to WWII really understand what they're looking at. Munich is certainly one that is grossly misunderstood. Yalta may be another. Having just read what was actually agreed to there, I'm not all that sure what impact Hiss had. What we REALLY need to understand is dispelling the great urban myth of WWII. WE, the Americans did not win the war in Europe. Max Hastings in the best one volume history on the war makes it clear that the Russians suffered the vast majority of losses but more importantly did the vast majority of the fighting and inflicted the vast majority of the losses on the Germans. The air campaign was not all that important and didn't justify the resources devoted to it. Given all that Stalin was not going to surrender what his troops won in eastern Europe at such high cost. He couldn't be cajoled, threatened or bullied into surrendering on Poland or anything else. So the "Yalta Sellout" seen from that context probably wasn't.
canuckistani| 7.24.12 @ 11:19AM
Nate, don't even try. The revisionists on here won the battle for reason before Marshall got off the plane in Berlin.
nathan| 7.24.12 @ 11:36AM
Well let's be honest here. When Berlin fell, the American public could care less about Europe, and their focus was always on the Pacific anyway. We didn't care what government was in Warsaw or Budapest or any other eastern european country and we certainly weren't going to go to war with Russia over it. Those who complain about Yalta, well tell us what they would have done/could have done and why Stalin would have listened. He wouldn't.
Skippy| 7.24.12 @ 5:38PM
"When Berlin fell, the American public could care less about Europe, and their focus was always on the Pacific anyway."
What total fantasy.
The American public had millions of sons fighting in ETO. Their focus turned to the PTO when Hitler was on the ropes.
Patton was right. Keep marching to Moscow.
nathan| 7.24.12 @ 6:14PM
And be every bit as successful as Germany was. Especially come winter. Over nonexistend roads, with lengthening supply lines subject to increased attacks by partisans.
And again, tell me who back home supports this march to Moscow and the tens of thousands of casualties that it costs? How would Truman have justified this attack on our ally who had just taken Berlin? Remember it as Berlin fell American were from the start of the war more interested in Japan who had attacked Pearl Harbor than German who done a whole lot to us. I really urge people to read Max Hastings. Long book but the best single volume history on WWII there is and he gives great reviews on every major military figure in the war and he's not all the crazy about Patton and frankly even before reading the book, neither was I.
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 6:40PM
"[...] he's not all the crazy about Patton and frankly even before reading the book, neither was I."
What a shock!
Did you cry when you first heard about those soldiers Patton slapped in Sicily, girly-man?
loulou| 7.24.12 @ 11:02AM
My only problem with this otherwise brilliant article is that Jeffrey Lord maligned Joseph McCarthy.
canuckistani| 7.24.12 @ 11:07AM
Why? Because he didn't mention Huma was a drunk like him?
Anthony| 7.24.12 @ 2:35PM
Hey canuckistani, I bet you say that about all Kennedys, eh? And guess what July 2oth was, and no, the start of Ramadan, your favorite holiday, is not the correct answer.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:41PM
No, because he didn't identify her as a Whore, like Tamara Holder.
howard lohmuller| 7.24.12 @ 11:25AM
The real question should be "Is Hillary Clinton the same lefty, Socialist or Communist that Obama is?"
Secretary Of State Clinton is as Leftie as Obama is and since her college days at Yale has worked to overthrow the Capitalistic system of the U.S. A further question is how did Huma Abedin get to such a high position at State? Hillary put her there because she wants to partner with the Muslim Brotherhood to weaken the U.S. just as Obama does. Hillary is controlling Huma the way a cat plays with a mouse.
Is it possible to prove this theory? Probably not, which is why the letters from Representative Bachmann and others complained of associations Ms. Abedin had with the Muslim Brotherhood rather than why had Secretary Clinton employed her in such a high ranking post.
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 11:28AM
This is a despicable hatchet job, Jeffrey Lord at his utter worst.
Ryan| 7.24.12 @ 11:33AM
Where is he wrong? What refutes him?
DRed| 7.24.12 @ 12:30PM
Here's a very simple difference. Alger Hiss was accused of being a spy, and there was actual evidence to support that accusation. Huma is being accused of being a relative of someone who was part of an organization that was related to an organization that supported terrorism. Do you see a difference?
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 2:56PM
Add in a fanatic religious element and strong tribal loyalty. So, no, I don't see much difference.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:42PM
He'll never answer you.
He's a punk.
Suzyqpie| 7.24.12 @ 8:36PM
Hi TLP, I'm late to this thread. Jobs are very inconvenient. No one seems to take note of the fact that Homa and her tribe quite publicly and proudly said that they come to kill us. No secret It's muslim brotherhood creed.
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 12:35PM
Is Mitt Romney the new Alger Hiss?
C. Vernon Crisler | 7.24.12 @ 12:57PM
RCV, I have to agree with you on this one. Questioning someone's patriotism without any real evidence is, well, that's something we do to politicians, not to obscure private citizens.
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 1:19PM
Every now and then you and I end up on the same page, whether it's the Civil War and Lincoln or this. I respect your independence of thought, Mr. Crisler.
John Navratil| 7.24.12 @ 2:07PM
C. Vernon Crisler,
This is no obscure private citizen. This is a person put into a sensitive position requiring a security clearance which gives her access to sensitive information about the Muslim Brotherhood, not the Boy Scouts. Her patriotism has not been questioned. The question most boldly stated is to that she publicly renounce the goals of the Muslim Brotherhood. I would think that is a fair question for anyone, not just someone with family associations which begs the question.
I accuse her of nothing.
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 2:59PM
Have we seen even one prominent Muslim renounce anything?
Skippy| 7.24.12 @ 5:40PM
They all renounce Jews daily.
In Arabic, so we can't tell.
MK48| 7.24.12 @ 8:19PM
John................I think Vernon and RCV BBQ together on sundays.
Mike W| 7.24.12 @ 11:35AM
Note to Republicans - it is not 2002 anymore . Most of the American people don't give a damn about your perceived Muslim threat. Your yearning for another type of post 9/11 solidarity is pointless and destructive.
Obama and his internal destruction is far more dangerous than any old Mooslim. Besides, considering that Iraq was a disaster and gave us the 2006 and 2008 election debacles, the "kill Muslim" ideology is not working anymore.
The threat comes from within.
Tom Kyba| 7.24.12 @ 11:54AM
I see the snot brigade is out in full self-esteem padding mode with their "religious nut" meme describing Bachmann. Abedin is not German or French but represents the religion which wrote the book on nuttiness. Members of her religious persuasion entered the U.S. and pretended to join the greater culture as regular citizens only to engage in the atrocity of 9/11. Yet Bachmann asking the gov't. to do due diligence on a woman whose religion and political philosophy(which in Islam's case are one and the same) tells her that lying to the infidel to advance the cause of Islamism, makes her a lunatic. Maybe Abedin is dirty and maybe not, but Satan(grow up sonny) conveniently won't have to deal with any potential consequences, allowing him to blow snot from his armchair. Nice to know time heals all wounds for liberals. You all yap like little poodles hiding behind a screen door, but when the door opens, you run the other way screaming "kill him first, kill him first".
Lots of derogatory comments and tough talk from clucking little chickens. Liberals and their delusions. Hey guess what everyone, not only are the posters to this site vile bigots for being wary of Canuckistani and Satan's favorite religion, it turns out the U.S. was a bit player in WWII.
Liberals embrace whatever misanthropic lunatic comes along, just 'cause they think they're sticking it to the man. This is how pubescent teens behave. And they call others delusional?
Dumbasses, heal thyselves.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:46PM
It's worse than that.
We Nuked Japan because they're Yellow.
Why do White Americans, Hate their Race, and their Country, so much?
Marie| 7.24.12 @ 12:05PM
I expect stupidity from John McCain, and have written him to tell him so, but others should think critically about ignoring this issue. They don't want to be on the wrong side of the coin on this issue. We The People are watching and reading.
Who Knows?| 7.24.12 @ 12:07PM
So you can’t even ask a question?
Shut up, he said!
America in 2012 is Planet of the Apes in action.
The “Apes”, the Demopublican establishment in DC, are simply repeating the scene in that movie, of seeing no evil, hearing no evil and speaking no evil. Except, the latter is expressed by not speaking the TRUTH.
Excuse my random memory, but the whole notion that Bachman and her pals dared to query their “betters”, brought to mind the very beginning words of Martin Heidegger’s magnum opus, from 1927, “Being and Time. The opening page goes like this---
“BEING AND TIME
INTRODUCTION
THE EXPOSITION OF THE QUESTION
OF THE MEANING OF BEING
Chapter One
The Necessity, Structure, and Priority of the Question of Being
1. The necessity of an explicit recapitulation of the question of Being”
Question THAT!
McCain should be asked if it’s wrong to ask questions.
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 12:38PM
Here's a question: Is Mitt Romney a child molester? Is it "wrong" to ask the question? Yes. Is there a shred of evidence to suggest that Ms. Abedin is anything other than, as John Boehner said, "a loyal American"?
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 12:53PM
It would be stupid, asinine and completely irrational to suggest that of Romney [since there has been nor is there now any evidence or facts concerning same]. Alternatively, what Jeffrey and others are now writing about is truth, fact, rational and totally possible. Of course, that is what the looney liberals make a political living upon is mistating the truth, lying, fabricating and manipulating that which exists. As Wilson shoulted at the SOTU address.......YOU LIE!!!!!
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 1:01PM
There is no more evidence of Ms. Abedin's disloyalty than of Romney's pedophilia. After all, he does belong to a religious organization where multiple marriages to underage girls have been a problem. For that matter, we probably should investigate all Catholics in government for pedophilia as well.
I commend McCain and Boehner and even Bachmann's former campaign manager, Ed Rollins, for calling her out on this outrageous character assassination. She's beneath contempt.
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 2:11PM
Nice cheap-shot against Catholics, RCV. Did that make you feel better?
Michelle Bachmann is a great American, by the way. If only there were more like her in Congress.
I wouldn't give someone like Mrs. Wiener, whose father, mother, and brother have ties to the Moslem Brotherhood, a security clearance. Would you? That's just common sense.
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 2:37PM
You know me better than that, Nick. I have defended the Church every time slurs against it have been uttered here. My point is that I believe this crap to be no different. The "ties" you refer to are the most tenuous he knows someone who knows someone who once was part of this organization crap.
Michelle Bachmann is a despicable, hate-filled bigot of the worst sort who, along with her mentally ill and closeted husband, ought to emigrate to Switzerland, their chosen homeland and leave our country better off without their likes. There are few people in public life whom I despise more.
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 3:06PM
RCV: There must be few countries that you despise more than America. Not Obama's America. I mean a free-market America. The America of our Founding Fathers. That America.
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 3:33PM
I love our country deeply, Gary B, and consider our Founding Fathers to be among the most brilliant political theorists who ever lived.
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 4:07PM
The point of this editorial is truth, that if McCain claims his personae and opinions are attributable to his heretage [of his father and grandfather], then why should not the same hold true for this woman? Are you saying that it is untrue that her father, mother etc were in the Muslim Brotherhood, and that same did not possibly shape her character and thoughts? Are you saying that similarly indoctrinated Arabs of Muslim heretage did not commandeer and fly airplanes into the twin towers on 9/11/01 or other terroristic happenings; that they did not seek to build a Muslim oriented mosque in NYC near the twin towers destruction sight or currently in Tennessee; that are attempting to infiltrate their Sharia Law into the US law system etc? Are you saying that Bachmann, Romney etc are more of a threat to this nation than are these Muslim Brotherhood terrorists that are now taking over the whole middle east????????
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 5:01PM
I know that you meant both analogies were false, RCV.
But, by using a false myth in order to make your point, you perpetuate a false stereotype. You could have made your point in another way, is all I'm saying. Leave us Catholics out of it, please. And the Mormons.
As far as Mrs. Bachmann goes, where do you get this garbage? Media Matters? Not to mention spreading libelous calumnies against her husband, just because you disagree with her politically.
Did you bother to read Andrew McCarthy's essay in NR? Did you even get that far? He makes the links to the MB by Mrs. Weiner's parents and brother rather clearly.
Do you have any contrary evidence? Is Mr. McCarthy also a "despicable, hate-filled bigot of the worst sort"?
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 3:52PM
As a born, raised, and college educated Catholic, I highly resent your remarks. You know where you can, and probably GO!!!!!
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 4:17PM
I am as well born, raised and educated as a Catholic, and have defended the church against every slur that Margie and any others have every raised about it, as anyone who regularly reads TAS knows. My point was to illustrate how absurd the logic was that Abedin's character assassins are using.
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 4:27PM
It is not "absurd", but rather truthful. What is absurd is the POLITICAL CORRECTNESS BS that predominates you liberals into ignoring the truth in your march toward your hold grail of DIVERSITY at all costs. As this editorial and Braitbart's as well point out is the fact of her not being properly vetted before assumption of influence directly within our government. Just as with Hiss' communism represented a threat to this country, so too would possibly her family's Muslim Brotherhood family's connection!!!!!!!
CJW| 7.24.12 @ 4:39PM
RCV has always been fair in his comments about Catholics.
W
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 4:47PM
No doubt you consider this "For that matter, we probably should investigate all Catholics in government for pedophilia as well" fair [which I do not, but instead is insulting]!!!!
C. Vernon Crisler | 7.24.12 @ 4:43PM
RCV is doing what Rush does. He's illustrating absurdity by turning the tables on those who are practicing it. Liberals and conservatives don't have to agree on everything or even on much of anything, but they should agree that baseless inunendo is immoral, no matter who indulges in it.
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 4:49PM
I don't consider it "baseless inuendo" what this editorial and others elsewhere are addressing. Rather I agree that it could rightfully be a matter of national security involved!!!!
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:53PM
Her Family is UP TO THEIR ASSES in The Muslim Brotherhood.
What about that FACT, don't you understand?
She is NO DIFFERENT than Alger Hiss.
And, the RCV's of the time, had the same Sh*t Fits over Nixon's Successful outing of that Communist POS.
What's wrong with Checking this B*tch out?
Tell us, RCV.
What's wrong with Checking this Muslim Brotherhood Loving B*tch out?
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 5:48PM
You reach new depths of vulgarity every day, TLP.
nathan| 7.24.12 @ 6:24PM
The last I looked sir we treat people as individuals in this country or so I thought. If you have personal knowledge that she is a "MBLB" then please share it with the class. But otherwise all people in this country enjoy Fifth Amendment rights and the presumption of innocence?
Again we know the vast majority of muslims in this country do not support the terrorists, do not favor the imposition of sharia and basically like you and me, just want to be left alone. I mean what do you want to do, treat them like we treated the Japanese living here (many of whom were American citizens) during WWII? Do a wholesale violation of their Fifth Amendment rights? Last I looked the Bill of rights hasn't been formally repealed yet although the Patriot went down that road and the NDAA which MR supports continues that effort.
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 6:35PM
Nathan,
Nobody is accusing Mrs. Weiner of committing a crime, brainiac.
You need to read what is actually written in the Fifth Article of Amendment to the Constitution.
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 7:17PM
Titling your article "Is Huma Abedin the New Alger Hiss?" clearly makes such a charge implicitly, Nick, since Alger Hiss was a convicted spy and traitor to our country.
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 7:38PM
Not when you read the whole essay, RCV.
Mr. Lord is clearly taking John 'wayne' McShame, Boehner, and the other RINOs to task for acting like inside the Beltway elitists; the same way RINOs of the 1940s didn't want to deal with Mr. Chamber's charges against Hiss.
That is the comparison that Mr. Lord is making. He is not implying that Mrs. Weiner is a Wahhabi mole.
We want to know if O'Bama's security procedures are as lax as FDR's and Truman's were, when they let commie spies shape foreign policy, that's all.
Remember "Who lost China?" It was the Soviet spies hiding as democrats, that's who.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 7:21PM
VET HER.
What's the problem?
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 10:33PM
If they refused to act on the Ft. Hood shooter, why would they offend one of Hillary's close associates?
Political correctness has turned our society upside-down. It flies in the face of rational thought, of reasonable management of everyday life. Who would have predicted our country would be essentially ruled by infantile peer pressure?
Ryan| 7.25.12 @ 4:24PM
Was Ms. Abedin properly vetted? That's the current problem. She applied for national security clearance, and Bachmann - who, I admit, has gone overboard at times - is asking a legitimate question as to her background and associations.
John Navratil| 7.24.12 @ 12:56PM
RCV,
As a lawyer you know a leading question. The question was never if Abedin was a traitor, it was whether or not security procedures were being properly followed specifically because of her well documented associations. No one has suggested any criminal behaviour.
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 1:05PM
"Well documented associations"???? I don't need to review the paucity of the evidence regarding "connections" to the Muslim Brotherhood that McCain and numerous others have gone into in detail, do I? This vicious character assassination is despicable, pure and simple. There's more evidence of Bachmann's "disloyalty" in securing dual citizenship than anything in the record regarding Ms. Abedin. It's just plain disgusting.
JP| 7.24.12 @ 1:17PM
She did spend her teenage years in Jeddah with her mother (a member of the Muslim Sisterhood, That MS has no problem with violent jihad,and just loves Sharia). Both her parents are/were fellow travellers of the Muslim Brotherhood. That in itself would preclude 98% of Americans from getting Top Secret SCI Clearences, let alone the federal employment.
As I stated earlier, there is very very little in the public record about Huma. The Wiki source has her attending George Washington University, but never said if she graduated. We know she didn't go to grad or law school, and besides her internship and her employment at State there is nothing about her other jobs (assuming she had any). You don't have to be a conspiracy nut not to have alarm bells go off. Most people of her class and position have a CV so long that you need a table of contents. And everyone says how brilliant she is (just brilliant!);but, there is nothing in the record that indicates any achievement other than being associated with Hillary.
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 4:51PM
Apparently she so BRILLIANT that she STUPIDLY married Anthony Weiner!!!!
John Navratil| 7.24.12 @ 2:01PM
RCV,
Untwist your panties and open your eyes. Romney's an outsourcer who cheats on his taxes, McCain is an adulteror, are allegations of the left. No indignance there.
You can read Bachmann's letter here:
http://bachmann.house.gov/uplo....._state.pdf
Abedin's name is mentioned precisely once: "...Abedin has three family members - her late father, her mother and her brother - connected to Muslim Brotherhood operatives and/or organizations. Her position affords her routine access to the Secretary and to policy-making". Are these statements false?
This is "vicious character assassination"? Methinks RCV doth protest too much.
The letter is requesting in investigation into "the extent to which Muslim-brotherhood tied individuals and entities" have influenced State Dept. policies.
It further asks, and this is easily interpreted as being directed at Abedin, that "no Muslim Brotherhood-associated entity or individual is placed into a position of honor or trust within the programs or operations of the Department of State unless he or she has publicly condemned or disclaimed the previously stated goals of the Muslim Brotherhood."
That's it? About a vicious as it gets is "Abedin, tell us it ain't so." Please, spare us the indignation.
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 2:42PM
I won't spare the indignation. "Connected" to is used here in a knowingly calculated manner to disguise a lack of any substance.
I admire John McCain greatly, by the way, for many things, but the fact is that he was indeed an adulterer by his own admission. Whether Romney has cheated on his taxes is an issue I've never raised, but one that will be answered when he finally discloses his tax returns as all presidential candidates should. We're entitled to know where their money comes from and goes before they're handed the highest office.
John Navratil| 7.24.12 @ 2:57PM
RCV,
Were the statements false? Is it of interest that Muslim Brotherhood influences the State Dept.? Who should make such enquiries, or are such enquiries off the table in this administration?
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 3:10PM
And, what did we know about Obama before he was handed the highest office in the land? That he was a man without a country and a man without a past. A clean slate - just like a newly-landed alien from outer space here to save the planet. I guess that was just okay with you, right?
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 4:14PM
That's utter nonsense. The man had written two autobiographical books that chronicled his life from birth, and we have a pretty clear understanding of just about every day of his past. What lunacy you guys spout!
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 4:38PM
Oh really? Did his "autobiographical" writings also include his personal claiming his birth location to be a KENYA instead of his birth certificate's HAWAII? Also, can you possibly TRUTHFULLY explain the financial source[s] of his PRIVATE SCHOOL tuition payments since childhood, including those to Occidental, Columbia and Harvard [oh and if you claim that same came from loans, grants etc.....SHOW PROOF] ???????
nathan| 7.24.12 @ 6:32PM
Oh please everything anyone needed to know about him was out there, his speech about supporting single payer, his associations with Ayers, his membership in that church Oprah bailed on, all of it. It was there and documented. He met the birth requirement through is mother who conveyed the necessary citizenship to him. Remember McCain was born in the Canal Zone and whether on that basis alone he qualified was questionable but he met it through his parents. We forget that with an American parent it's basically irrelevant where someone is physically born. What the Constitution really rules out naturalized citizens. We need to get off this kick.
Gary B| 7.24.12 @ 10:40PM
So, Obama vetted himself. Oh, well okay then. He and his America-hating wife must be what we've all been waiting for. I'll just sit here watching reality TV while I wait for my government check. I was worried there for a minute.
Drunken Sailor| 7.24.12 @ 3:20PM
So we are entitled to know where a presidential canidates money comes from, even though it is not a requirement, but you don't think people in influential goverment roles with access to sensitive diplomatic relations should have a simple security check?
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 4:12PM
What makes you believe that she didn't have "a simple security check" like everyone else who works for the State Department?
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 4:55PM
The point of this editorial is to question whether she had a "simple security check" similar to that of Hiss' [who was a ultimately documented Communist] ??????
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 4:18PM
I dispute his being an "adulterer", but if so...so what????? Does that represent a threat to our national interests, and if so, HOW [if that be the case, then this country would have been destroyed by Kennedy, Clinton and the like]?????
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 4:27PM
I didn't raise the adulterer issue, John N did, and I also could care less about it. I simply pointed out that it happened to be true about him, just as it is about Gingrich and Kennedy and Clinton and half of Washington.
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 4:57PM
Again, is being thus a matter of national security concern???????????
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 7:26PM
You truly are a POS.
If this Bitch, has nothing to hide, then what's the problem with investigating her Family's Ties to this POS Muslim Terrorist Organization.
You're no different than the USEFUL IDIOTS that protested the CONVICTIONS of the Rosenbergs, and Alger Hiss.
Look in the Mirror, idiot.
What do you see?
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 4:11PM
Did she not have a mother, father and brother that were/are members of the Muslim Brotherhood? Do you consider the MB a rational, worthwhile organization for membership? Do you consider same beneficial to Egypt's future?
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 4:13PM
No she did not have a mother, father and brother who were/are members of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 4:59PM
Then you're thereby calling Jeffrey's editorial [and Nolte's of Braitbart] a factual fabrication ??????????
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 7:26PM
Yes she does.
Oldefarte| 7.25.12 @ 4:57PM
[from Frank Gaffney's editorial in Newsmax ]:
"....The State Department’s own guidelines would appear to deny access to classified information to a person who has, as she does through living and deceased family members, “foreign associations that could create . . . a heightened risk of foreign exploitation, inducement, manipulation, pressure, or coercion.” (For more on those troubling associations and their implications for U.S. policy, see a new Center for Security Policy report entitled “Ties That Bind? The Views and Agenda of Huma Abedin’s Islamist Mother,” http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/p19045.xml)....."
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 4:41PM
"well documented associations"? Would you possibly include in same those of Obama and Jackson, Obama and Wright, Obama and Davis, Obama and Ayers, Obama and Resko, also???????
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:55PM
If she's got nothing to hide?
What's the problem?
I look at her, and I see Matahari.
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 5:01PM
Since she doesn't don a BURKA, she has "nothing to hide"!!!!!
BackToBasics| 7.24.12 @ 1:05PM
Yet if Romney's parents were both proven child molesters the question most assuredly would be raised. If it had not been raised already it would be done in an "October surprise" manner. Just like George Bush's DUI charge, although ineffective, was brought up just before the election in 2000. Republican Defense Secretary, Casper Weinberger was implicated in Iran-Contra 4 days before the election in 1992.
If such an association existed for any Republican candidate, it WOULD be raised as an issue.
BackToBasics| 7.24.12 @ 1:15PM
As for "questions" or more accurately accusations, look at the flimsy, unproven allegations that were likely contrived in 1998 that were raised against Herman Cain to get him out of the primaries.
BackToBasics| 7.24.12 @ 8:30PM
My post above is in regards to RCV's hypothetical as to whether or not it would be wrong to question if Romney was a pedophile. A lot of messages were written since I posted the above.
Teflon93 | 7.24.12 @ 1:07PM
Barack Obama is familiar with child molesters, if his poems are any indication.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:57PM
Were these Before, or After he propositioned Males at the Harvard Review, for SEX?
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 5:08PM
Huh? Didn't Marshall proposition his MOMMA, which would have made him the BABY-DADDY right [but if so, WTF does "Dreams" come into play]? I'm confused?
MK48| 7.24.12 @ 8:21PM
Quack....Quack
Kingofthenet| 7.24.12 @ 12:09PM
I am FAR more worried about the OPEN divided loyalties we afford Jewish Americans, they have time and time again shown themselves to be in some cases TREASONOUS. The Rosenberg's, Johnathan Pollard to name a few.Let's investigate Israeli involvement in American political life.
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 12:40PM
This comment is as despicable as Jeffrey Lord's. Because Jonathan Pollard was a traitorous spy means we should question the loyalty of every Jewish American? You're no better than Bachmann and Lord.
C. Vernon Crisler | 7.24.12 @ 1:01PM
Dittos
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 2:16PM
Do I have to remind you, RCV, that KooK of the Net is one of your comrades?
To compare KooK to Mr. Lord and Mrs. Bachmann is ridiculous.
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 2:44PM
He's no comrade of mine, Nick, and more than Jack from Wisconsin or Tim*/Clint is a comrade of yours. But the fact is that his comments were EXACTLY the same as Bachmann's/Lord's, and just as despicable.
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 2:44PM
sb "any more" not "and more".
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:58PM
Idiot.
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 5:12PM
KooK is one of the resident liberals, here, RCV, as you well know.
I applaud greatly your denunciation of KooK. But, this not the first time he has written crazy things. I must have missed your other reprimands of Kook.
Again, to equate KooK's anti-Semitic comment with those of Mrs. Bachmann's and Mr. Lord's (what about Andy McCarthy?) I think shows that the summer heat is getting to you liberals.
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 5:22PM
You did miss my other reprimands. As you should know, Nick, I'm pretty quick to call out racism, anti-semitism, anti-catholicism whenever they rear their ugly heads here -- just as you are, to your great credit. I also do this same with other kinds of religious prejudice, against Mormons and against loyal American Muslims.
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 5:41PM
Yes, I know, RCV. I apologize for implying that you don't.
I was reacting to your Catholic remark, in the heat of the moment, as it were.
RCV| 7.24.12 @ 5:50PM
thanks, Nick. I always appreciate your decency and personal integrity.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 7:30PM
Unless it's done by his False Messiah - Barack Hussein Obama/Barry Soetoro/Abu Hussain.
Funny how EVIL, always goes by so many names.
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 5:12PM
Hellfire, six million Jews weren't exterminated, we all know that, right? It's just a VAST RIGHTWING CONSIRACY according to all you liberals. Probably 9/11 is also, right?
John Navratil| 7.24.12 @ 2:12PM
Kingofthenet,
It seems you sh*t in your own mess kit.
Third Army| 7.24.12 @ 12:14PM
I also worry about any woman that stays married to a man who gets his thrills by exposing his penis to underage women via the internet. Shows a total lack of commons sense and a delusional mindset. She was also bragging the other day to People Magazine that he's a great father.
JP| 7.24.12 @ 1:23PM
Of all the eligible bachelors, why Anthony Wiener? The whole multi-culti, diversity thing is a bit much. Great and powerful New York Jew weds a beautiful and brilliant Muslim who just so happens to work for the most powerful woman in the US. It's too pat, too cliche. Allegedly, Huma is a devout Muslim. Why kind of devout Muslim marries a Jew? It makes no sense. And if she is still close to her mother, how could her mother (a member of the MS that vows to destroy Isreal) tolerate ther marriage? Something isn't quite right.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 4:58PM
Exactly.
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 5:22PM
Nah... just your average POWER COUPLE that wanted to beat each other to death while having marital relations, no doubt!!!!!!!! Oh, and old Anthony once dated that Kristan Powers [blond commentator on FOX]. Talk about DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES ???????
BackToBasics| 7.26.12 @ 12:42AM
I do not think liberal Jews like Weiner even care if Israel exists. They sure don't vote like it's important and your post is another case-in-point.
Oldefarte| 7.24.12 @ 12:45PM
Thanks to Jeffrey's [as usual] outstanding editorial on this subject, and likewise to TLP's always insightful commentary above. Anyone interested should look on Braitbart.com also for [I think] Nolte's editorial along the same lines. As Jeffrey indicates here, this woman is only an advisor to the Secretary of State, and not the administrator that implements the policy. She however wispers in the ear of same and therefore influences same policy greatly. As TLP implies also, possibly a much more alarming situation should be the result of 11/4/08. With the recent book THE AMATEUR and others describing a questionably similar situation of a person who we know very little about historically, who was raised within the Muslim culture, who only became Christian later on in his life for mostly political reasons and who now sits within the Oval Office and issues orders to be carried out by our government, shouldn't we be even more concerned about what Jeffrey describes in this editorial as it applies to someone who has the most influential job within the world? Forget if you will this State Dept situation, or the deplorable situation of Ft Hood; and then think possibly of a possible situation where the Muslim Brotherhood could be running this country by remote control!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BackToBasics| 7.24.12 @ 12:47PM
From the article which is quoting Moynihan - "Belief in the guilt or innocence of Alger Hiss became a defining issue in American intellectual life."
And if someone considered him guilty, they were on the out, or considered not "cool" in the cocktail circuit or in academia or in Hollywood either. Of course, the way RINO's think, this would not look good for Republican candidates in upcoming elections. It's the same this time around in 2012 with McCain dumoing on Bachman.
For RINO's, even just raising the question of a possibly compromised appointment makes Republicans look "extreme" and therefore the voters might not love our "nice" candidates in the upcoming elections. How dare Bachman to step out of line.
It is no wonder at all that McCain lost in 2008!
BackToBasics| 7.24.12 @ 12:48PM
sp - dumping
Teflon93 | 7.24.12 @ 1:07PM
John McCain, Chris Christie, John Boehner, et al are clearly the new Neville Chamberlains.
The Establishment is doing what it always does---selling out our liberty for the sake of their continued influence and the money it brings.
Fiscal| 7.24.12 @ 1:25PM
We ought to investigate Jeffrey Lord for being a religious extremist! What about Romney for his Mormon beliefs? Our country is based on the premise that if you break the law, you'll be prosecuted. It violates all of our liberties to investigate people who have not committed a crime. This is where most right wing extremists like Bachmann violate conservatism -- their witch hunts are based on their extreme religious views rather than the law. So from the left our rights are challenged by the nanny state and from the right our rights are challenged by bigots. We are losing our liberties no matter who we support. Enough!!!!!
Drunken Sailor| 7.24.12 @ 1:51PM
"It violates all of our liberties to investigate people who have not committed a crime. "
You have obviously never had to get a security clearance!
cuban pete| 7.24.12 @ 2:34PM
DS
You beat me to it. On the heels of the Penn State matter I suspect organizations will step up their preemployment background checks.
Kingofthenet| 7.24.12 @ 2:36PM
The people in charge of granting Security Clearances can ask ANY question, but we don't have guilt by association, as long as you are truthful on a security application, regarding your families beliefs and associations, than you should be fine. It's not someones fault their father was a Communist, but IF you hide that fact, it seems you have sympathies for that position.
JP| 7.24.12 @ 3:06PM
You are correct. The security application and process is nothing more than advanced risk management. The applicant,in the end, gets a score which is used to indicate what risk the person holds. In the end, it is an executive decision. On the one hand, Hansen (the most traitor during the Cold War) had a CV and background that any FBI supervisor would love to see in his people (devout Catholic, patriotic, very hard working, no debts, squeeking clean family guy); but on the other hand, plenty of political appointees who've worked around sensitive information have horrendous pasts (multiple arrests for drug use, debts, attendence at protests, etc...). At the end of the day, it is up to the President or his designated executive that makes the decision(s). President Bush Jr would never have gotten a TS SCI because of his earlier drug and alcohol use. Ditto for Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. There are exceptions, of course. But, they are just that - exceptions.
Kingofthenet| 7.24.12 @ 4:44PM
That's it, you could cheat on your wife in the past, do drugs all sorts of things that the Security people most likely ALREADY know about. They just want to see if you lie, if you do you could be a Blackmail Target.
Fiscal| 7.24.12 @ 3:06PM
I've had a TS security clearance. But in that case, I volunteered for the position so I asked them to investigate me. I'm sure Abedin has also been investigated and has a security clearance. You seem to have missed that fact.
TLP| 7.24.12 @ 5:01PM
You're SURE?
Do you have any PROOF?
Of course not.
You're full of Sh*t.
Ryan| 7.25.12 @ 4:27PM
Honestly, the burden of proof DOES fall on those making the initial accusations, and then for the other side to refute.
Oldefarte| 7.25.12 @ 5:10PM
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/p19045.xml)
Keophus| 7.24.12 @ 1:53PM
And if these charges are true? Can we remove this person by the end of the year?
The only relevant fact right now is how this affects the election, which MUST end this administration.
The people who approve of pursuing this will vote R regardless.
However, pursuing it may convince some undecideds that R's are paranoid wackos. Enough to cost us the election?
This fight, while of merit, is strategically damaging at this moment.
And even if Bachman "wins" and Abedin is removed, it will happen about the same time as the election, which hopefully will accomplish the same thing.
There is no need to risk losing votes over this right now.
Kingofthenet| 7.24.12 @ 2:04PM
Actually what Michele is doing is VERY UN-American, to do this you have to FIRST assume there is a problem with being a Muslim, second you would have to have NO confidence in the peoples job who are to run security checks.
Drunken Sailor| 7.24.12 @ 3:24PM
"you have to FIRST assume there is a problem with being a Muslim"
Kind of like you have to first assume there is a problem with Mitt's tax record huh?
drake1456| 7.24.12 @ 2:42PM
The reaction of those defending Abedin brings to mind"methinks thou doth protest too much" What are they overlooking and in this age of Islamic extremism, can we be TOO careful??Great work again Mr Lord. Keep informing us.
Fiscal| 7.24.12 @ 3:08PM
You must believe that the majority of Muslims are extremists??? This is nothing more than religious bigotry -- face it.
Drunken Sailor| 7.24.12 @ 3:27PM
No, but if they have close family ties to a organization such as the Muslim Brotherhood who have questionable ties to terror organizations and you are applying for or working in a position as advisor to a cabinet member, you should be able to pass a routine clearance.
Hell, I don't even work for the goverment and I get a security clearance background check done every year. No big deal.
Jack London| 7.24.12 @ 3:45PM
"you should be able to pass a routine clearance."
What makes you think she is working without clearance?
Drunken Sailor| 7.24.12 @ 4:41PM
I have no idea, that is kind of the point isn't it? Kind of like that "Transparency" I keep hearing about. If she does, and no undue pressure to "speed things along" was involved, then this is a dead issue isn't it?
So easy to prove there is nothing to hide. Kind of the same argument I keep hearing about Mitt's taxes.
Jack London| 7.24.12 @ 5:25PM
Do you really believe that with her access to our Secretary of State she has not been through clearance? Anyway, this is hardly the point - Lord and his pointy hat friends don't care about that – all they want to do is attack a minority person in a senior position. No level of clearance would make any difference to them.
Jeff| 7.24.12 @ 10:32PM
So Jack....
What minority group did Alger Hiss belong to?
Oldefarte| 7.25.12 @ 5:12PM
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/p19045.xml)
Fiscal| 7.24.12 @ 3:56PM
You are making the "6 degrees from Kevin Bacon" argument. That is a dangerous precedent and tends to convict the innocent. There is no evidence that Abedin has done anything wrong, and she must have a higher security clearance than any of us to work with the Secretary of State. Therefore, Bachmann's attack smacks of racial and religious prejudice. Furthermore, just because a Muslim gives to their religious institution and they, in turn, have an infinitesimal amount diverted to extremists, does not even pass the smell test. I'm sure Al Qaeda gets some funds from Christian missionary charities as well.
Drunken Sailor| 7.24.12 @ 4:54PM
No I am making the basic fact that require a security clearance. Not assuming that "she must have a higher security clearance than any of us to work with the Secretary of State". Hers is a political appointment and we all know how those can go. If she had the clearance then fine, show it and put this to bed. You know kind of the same arguement libs use about Mitt's tax returns.
DRed| 7.24.12 @ 5:33PM
Let's see-we've got her father, who it is alleged founded an organization that was backed by another organization that contained some members of the muslim brotherhood. He's also been dead for 20 years. Then we've got her mother, who is allegedly part of a mysterious Muslim Sisterhood. How do we know that?
This blog:
http://hobaheba.blogspot.com/
(seriously-this is Andy McCarthy's source)
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 6:27PM
Seriously, where do you libs get this garbage? Media Matters or kos-kids?
Here, DRed, is page three of Mr. McCarthy's detailed essay, which is chock full of links to many sources:
http://www.nationalreview.com/.....arthy?pg=3
DRed| 7.24.12 @ 6:37PM
Yeah, I know. That's where I got that garbage.
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 6:42PM
Then why did you imply that that was Mr. McCarthy's only source, propagandist?
DRed| 7.24.12 @ 6:45PM
I didn't imply that was his only source. I stated that was the source for his claim that Huma Abedin's mother was a member of the 'Muslim Sisterhood', because that is the source for his claim. Don't shoot the messenger.
DRed| 7.24.12 @ 7:09PM
It's also interesting to look at what he doesn't source. Look here-McCarthy writes:
"Ms. Abedin’s father, the late Syed Z. Abedin, was an Indian-born Islamic academic who founded the Institute of Muslim Minority Affairs in Saudi Arabia. That institute was backed by the Muslim World League."
Muslim World League is hypertexted in the original aritcle. If you don't click on the link you would assume that it's showing proof of a link between the Muslim World League and Huma Abedin's father's group. Except it doesn't. So what is the source of Mr. McCarthy's claim that Huma's father's organization was backed by the Muslim World League? Who knows. He certainly doesn't back it up. Why is Mr. McCarthy hiding his sources?
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 7:24PM
"If you don't click on the link you would assume that it's showing proof of a link between the Muslim World League and Huma Abedin's father's group."
Or, if you're a normal person, you would realize that Mr. McCarthy was providing some background on the MWL, for those who are not familiar with this group, brainiac.
Which would be most people, including myself.
DRed| 7.24.12 @ 7:32PM
So how does he know that the MWL supported Huma Abedin's father's organization? I mean, that's the key to his allegation that her father has ties to the muslim brotherhood. He says the ties are 'specific and substantiated', but he doesn't substantiate them. I find that odd.
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 7:14PM
Yes, you did imply that, DRed. Really, is English your second language? You provided one link, when there were two others.
Here are two other sources for the claim that Mrs. Weiner's mother was a member of the Moslem Sisterhood, which you did not post:
http://www.humanevents.com/201.....-own-risk/
http://www.shoebat.com/documen.....ctions.htm
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 7:16PM
You could also have given the English translation, instead of the Arabic language blog:
http://www.shoebat.com/2011/06/13/1202/
DRed| 7.24.12 @ 7:28PM
That shoebat site uses the site I linked to as it's source-that's why I linked to it. As you eloquently put it, it seems to be garbage. It's an unsourced list from a 2 year old blog.
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 7:40PM
Umm, it also says that Al-Jazeera published part of the list, too. Oops!
DRed| 7.24.12 @ 7:59PM
hahaha. Oh, this is too rich. Who knew you trusted Al-Jazeera?
http://www.aljazeera.net/mob/f.....b70d134444
This seems to be the al-jazeera article. Doesn't mention Huma Abedin's mother, so again, this isn't very convincing.
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 7:51PM
Enough of your distractions, DRed.
What about Dr. Abedin's leadership of the International Islamic Committee for Woman and Child?
Are you also going to claim this is a false assertion?
Defend the IICWC.
http://legalinsurrection.com/2.....-bachmann/
DRed| 7.24.12 @ 11:56PM
Distractions! Yes, don't pay attention to the fact that the 'specific and substantiated' ties between Huma Abedin's family and the muslim brotherhood turn out to be vague and undocumented. It's a distraction from the real issue, which is that Ms. Abedin's mother belongs to an organization that supports female circumcision and child marriage. I mean, I think that's pretty vile, but it's not very convincing evidence that her daughter (you know, the one who married the Jewish guy) is part of a plot to bring the stealth sharias to America.
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 5:18PM
Yes, Fecal, why would we believe a majority of Moslems are "extremist"? It's not like they were dancing in the streets of cities across the Middle East on September 11th, 2001, or anything....Oh....wait a minute....They were!
I don't think you know what the word bigotry means.
Fiscal| 7.24.12 @ 10:36PM
One billion Muslims dancing in the streets? Do you have a source? No, I didn't think you did...
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 11:23PM
Umm, no, Fecal, a Moslem "majority" does not equal one billion. Hasn't your math class started fractions yet, Einstein? Try again.
And look up the word bigotry, while your at it.
Are you denying that Moslems were dancing in the streets of Moslem cities across the Mid-East on September, 11th, Fecal?
Finzi Holst| 7.25.12 @ 5:13PM
Perhaps you are of a mood to be educated. Probably not. It seems you prefer emotion over fact. There is nothing at all wrong with querying -- not accusing -- Ms. Abedin's security clearance. Nothing. In fact, the shouting of the tone-deaf castrati, gives the query more weight. Not less. Would you allow no questions, Fiscal?
As far as Political Islam goes, for true adherents, you either participate in jihad or you support it. Fact. The Sword Verses are not intended for a particular time in history (that of Muhammad's reign of terror):
"I have been ordered by Allah to fight and kill all mankind until they say 'No God except Allah and Muhammad is the prophet of Allah'" Hadith Bukhari
The reference to jihad as an 'inner struggle' is based on what is regarded as a 'weak' hadith whereas the call to Jihad as holy war against all non-believers has the support of over 200 mentions in Hadith Bukhari alone, which is regarded as the most authoritative of all the ahadith and, indeed, the ahadith, along with the Koran and the Sunnah are considered to have revelatory status to all Muslims.
Finzi Holst| 7.25.12 @ 5:17PM
Perhaps you are of a mood to be educated, Fiscal. Probably not. It seems you prefer emotion over fact. There is nothing at all wrong with querying -- not accusing -- Ms. Abedin's security clearance. Nothing. In fact, the shouting of the tone-deaf castrati, gives the query more weight. Not less. Would you allow no questions, Fiscal?
As far as Political Islam goes, for true adherents, you either participate in jihad or you support it. Fact. The Sword Verses are not intended for a particular time in history (that of Muhammad's reign of terror):
"I have been ordered by Allah to fight and kill all mankind until they say 'No God except Allah and Muhammad is the prophet of Allah'" Hadith Bukhari
The reference to jihad as an 'inner struggle' is based on what is regarded as a 'weak' hadith whereas the call to Jihad as holy war against all non-believers has the support of over 200 mentions in Hadith Bukhari alone, which is regarded as the most authoritative of all the ahadith and, indeed, the ahadith, along with the Koran and the Sunnah are considered to have revelatory status to all Muslims.
Finzi Holst| 7.25.12 @ 5:21PM
With regard to the Sword Verse 9.5:
"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.," the scholars of Al-Azhar University, the foremost school of Islamic scholarship, have stated: "The verse (9.5) does not leave any room in the mind to conjecture about what is called defensive war. This verse asserts that holy war, WHICH IS DEMANDED IN ISLAMIC LAW, is not a defensive war because it could legitimately be an offensive war. That is the apex and most honorable of all holy wars. Its goal is the exaltation of the word of God, the construction of Islamic society, and the establishment of God's kingdom on earth REGARDLESS OF THE MEANS. It is legal to carry on an offensive holy war."
I would hope the AS will publish this, not as an example of one commenter's attempt to 'best' another, but in the interests of a full and honest understanding of the threat of Islam's concept of 'holy war' --- Jihad.
What did they/do they seek: "to fight against the people until they testify that none is right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammed is the Messenger of Allah." (Bukhari, vol. 1, book 2, no. 25) The same statement is repeated in vol.1, book 8; vol. 4, book 56; vol. 9, book 88; vol. 9, book 96; and in other hadith collections.
The jihad, begun by Muhammed, continues to this day. It has never been dropped or repudiated by any Muslim leader or sect.
Finzi Holst| 7.25.12 @ 5:22PM
Al-Takeyya is a policy whereby a Muslim may lie, deceive or omit critical truths if it promotes the spreading of Islam AND the conquest of the non-Muslim world. According to William P. Welty, Ph.D., al-Takeyya/Taqiyya is:
"The Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah. Falsehoods told to prevent denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned by the Qur'an, including lying under penalty of perjury in testimony before the United States Congress, lying or making distorted statements to the media such as claiming that Islam is a religion of peace and deceiving fellow Muslims when the one lying has deemed them to be apostates." (1)
This is similar to the secular progressive, communist and liberal concept of "situation ethics" or the exitus acta probat school of thought. However, it is much more of a threat because it is fueled by zealots and backed by historical proof of the objectives at stake.
Through sham organizations like CAIR, Islam is making inroads in this country. Journalists should be exposing the way politicians on both sides of the aisle and the Bush/Obama administrations have fawned and capitulated. They should be showing where and to whom organizations like CAIR (and its sham umbrella groups) are sending donations. They should be exposing the Imams and Mullahs, the mosques and madrassas that are teaching their children that Jews are "apes" and Christians are "pigs" and spewing the hate of Islam.
Finzi Holst| 7.25.12 @ 5:24PM
It is not a "religion of peace" and anyone who says that is a liar and the truth is not in them. It is a Political Ideology of war and conquest. Convert, pay the tax or die. Do you also believe the PC-lie that the West were the perpetrators in the Crusades? The Crusades were IN FACT a response to hundreds of years of Islamic aggression.
Dag Hammarskjold, himself murdered at the hand of terrorists, wrote: "The lapdogs disguised themselves as sheep and tried to hunt with the wolves." The world has always had its share of lapdogs. The Clinton years evolved the breed in the US. It includes to a large degree journalists, idealists, religious zealots, opportunists, the avaricious, the desultory and the gormless. Bush and Obama's enablers have perfected it.
Intelligent Design| 7.24.12 @ 5:31PM
Everyone in Congress should read the book titled Marked for Death - Islam's War Against the West and Me, by Geert Wilders, member of the Dutch Parliament. Then they would understand that Islam is just as evil as Nazism or Communism. There is no such thing as a practicing "moderate" Muslim.
The Muslim Brotherhood is the parent company of Hamas. A main objective of the Muslim Brotherhood is the destruction of Western civilization from within. Islam is totally hostile and subversive to our Constitution and freedom everywhere.
Kingofthenet| 7.24.12 @ 6:06PM
So we are at war with 1.3 or so BILLION people...God is REALLY going to have to help us in that case.
Intelligent Design| 7.24.12 @ 9:18PM
Virtually no one thought the USSR would collapse. There is no moderate Islam. It's a barbaric 7th century totalitarian political ideology which calls for state "religion". For example, in Saudi Arabia the practice of any "religion" other than Islam is forbidden. The West should recognize Islam for what it is: a dangerous threat to freedom everywhere. We should encourage Muslims to leave the 7th century and join the 21st by committing apostasy. But they must have courage, since Islam's punishment for apostasy is death.
An informative site is www.thereligionofpeace.com which shows the daily carnage and history. There have been more than 19,000 Muslim terrorist attacks since 9/11/01, with total dead and wounded in the thousands. Just last month there were a few thousand. Most of the victims are other Muslims, but hundreds are "Infidels" ---- Jews, Christians, Buddhists, etc.
Fiscal| 7.24.12 @ 10:47PM
I'm sure you don't think Mormons are Christians or that we should have a non-Christian President. Even if the President is Christian, if you don't like him he must be Muslim. Hitler, Mussolini were both Christians. Perhaps we should brand all Christians with them.
Most people in this world -- no matter their religion -- just want to raise their family without being threatened. I guess you haven't traveled much to Muslim countries and met Muslims you didn't see on Fox News. If you did, you'd know that the vast majority of Muslims are decent family people. Branding one billion people with the same stroke as you would brand the few thousand Al Qaeda adherents is not very "intelligent"... I don't happen to agree with their mythology or any religious mythology. All fundamentalists scare me whether they are Muslim, neo-cons, ultra-libs, or Christians as they value belief over reason. There can be no progress when the use of reason is not used as a common language.
Nick| 7.24.12 @ 11:37PM
Hitler and Mussolini were about as Christian as Stalin, Fecal.
Where do you Secular Humanist Atheistic Materialists (S.H.A.M., for short) get this claptrap?
To which churches did they belong? What was the name of parishes they attended? Mussolini was a lefty atheist and Hitler pretty much thought he was an Aryan superman. The nazis loved to use the imagery of the old Norse gods and hated Jesus Christ and His followers. Much like you do.
You should sue whoever taught you this bogus history, Fecal.
nathan| 7.24.12 @ 6:53PM
No poll certainly not in this country supports what you. The vast majority of muslims in this country and most countries do not support terrorism or the imposition of sharia. Most just want to be left alone. They often don't speak up for the reasons few spoke up during the Inquisition, they're scared. How many people in Europe tried to save Jews during the War? Not that many.
We can't be too holier than thou here. It was people who were nominally Christians who murdered six million Jews a mere 60 years ago, a number far in excess of what Islam probably has done in its entire existence.
If MB is parent company of Hamas then all that does is put them in league with Israel. in the early years of Hamas Israel provided Hamas with both funding and recognition. (Yeah how many of you knew that?) You see Israel did that because they thought a religious counter to the PLO would useful. They aren't the smartest people sometimes.
Thom| 7.24.12 @ 7:14PM
"They often don't speak up for the reasons few spoke up during the Inquisition, they're scared."
Who are they scared of? The bulk of muslims live in Muslim countries under Islamic laws.
Ryan| 7.25.12 @ 4:30PM
Any Christian connection to Naziism has often been refuted. Do your homework.
Oldefarte| 7.25.12 @ 5:15PM
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/p19045.xml)
Thom| 7.24.12 @ 7:07PM
This nation has a long and proud tradition of having its collective head stuck up its arse and its drawers down around its ankles when the bombs start falling. Anyone who has ever tried to get something done quickly and efficiency on a committee knows the mechanism at work. Government bureaucracies are unaccountable committees whose primary purpose becomes the survival of the committee.
One of the inherent problems of Dumbmocracy is its inability to act in its own self-defense. See above. Hillary Clinton backed a would be dictator in Honduras and their Supreme Court unlike ours could find a copy of their Constitution and hold said want to be President for life to the letter of the law. We have no letter of the law any more.
Abraham Lincoln the First wrote of the dilemma of trying to save that which was designed to prevent what he was doing and not kill that which he thought he was saving. He succeeded in mortally wounding that which he wished to save at the point of a sword.....a social contract signed in blood 78 years before. Our Rodney King society can't deal with an enemy within concept... That's too complex a thought for our ideology. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were nice people right to the end I hear.
Anne Onymous| 7.24.12 @ 7:21PM
Wonder what stealth jihadist Grover Norquist may have to say about all this.
rocky01| 7.24.12 @ 10:00PM
Disturbing. The correct response is for the American people to relieve these career politicans of their duties. Clearly, resisting appeasement and accomodation of the anti-Israel, anti American Muslim Brotherhood, parent of terrorist groups that has killed innocents including American is too much for these Washington insiders who choose to go along to get along. Shameful behavior. This should be a TROUBLING development for every lawful citizen of the United States.
Fiscal| 7.24.12 @ 10:51PM
The correct response is to believe in liberty and not to go on witch hunts or condemn people for believing differently. We should condemn people who break the law. If they attack us, we should respond with even greater force. But America is about freedom and liberty. You guys seem to forget that.
rocky01| 7.24.12 @ 11:17PM
Unfortunately the essay and lays aside and refutes any charges of witchhunts. And who is you guys, apart from those who seek the truth, even if it's inconvenient and politically incorrect? In case it's gone without notice, there are people in this administration and in congress who think islamists are freedom fighters. Sterilizing sunlight please.
Fiscal| 7.25.12 @ 8:09AM
You really don't seem to want or seek the truth. You only seem to want to reinforce your bias. There are very few people today who take the time and effort to find the truth and put facts in context. Those who believe what they read on the internet are the problem. Let's face it, you don't want the truth, you only want to believe that Obama is a Muslim and that his administration is full of Muslim terrorists. The real truth is that the Obama administration is almost as incompetent as the Bush administration (which no one talks about at TAS). For perspective, the left is doing the same thing as you branding their ideology on those on the right. How many of you actually read both sides and then do your homework? How many of you consistently read fact checking sites like factcheck.org and politifact? If you don't, then you're not interested in the truth and only want witch hunts.
You are all hurting the cause of liberty and conservatism because both are strengthened by objectivity and truth.
rocky01| 7.25.12 @ 11:05AM
Unsubstanciated rehetoric. This issay as well as the McCarthy pieces referenced are well beyond the parallel universe your subterfuge attempts to create. All the questions asked within are well worth investigating, your thoughts notwithstanding. Sorry your narrative goes wasted.
JimmyElvis| 7.25.12 @ 1:26AM
Great article. Thanks for all the hard work!
Theo Prinse| 7.25.12 @ 10:16AM
Obama is the bio son of Frank Marshall Davis who was a US enemy number one since 1944 and to be arrested in case of a US-SU war.
So Davis was under 24/7/365 FBI surveillance. ...
The FBI directed from early 1940s continuing into the 1970s, - a joint US/UK code-breaking effort (Venona)—inwhich the FBI was heavily involved—broke Soviet diplomatic and intelligence communications codes, allowing the US and the British to read Soviet communications that Americans were working in the US for Soviet intelligence. Hoover failed to notify the CIA until 1952.
So the CIA knew of Davis since 1952 or earlier ... and both CIA and FBI knew of the intimacy between Davis and the Dunhams ...
Besides the FBI files on Davis there must be a second file covering the pornographic activities of Davis-Dunham held by the FBI and/or CIA as well ... Jewish neo conservative circles (Perle, Wolfowitz cs) within the CIA >>preferred
Theo Prinse| 7.25.12 @ 10:17AM
islam fundamentalism in power in Iran in 1979 against communist Russia and got ideological support from Catholic Zbigniew Brzezinski
So Obama-Davis is not a leading master figure ...
but some sort of Manchurian puppet.
I say we must bring the war to these circles within the CIA
Leeonious Marvonious| 7.25.12 @ 12:49PM
Hilllary is the Muslim Alger Hiss
HUMA is just a collaborative SOUL MATE who meets face to face and tells them how much its gonna cost
Rose Law Firm's "Pretty In Pink" posture under honest Abe has always been in the pockets of RADICAL ISLAM.
Alinskites 1st que is money is power regardless of how it is acquired.
Lin| 7.25.12 @ 1:33PM
Does anyone believe that Saleha Abedin, shariah observant leader of a Muslim Brotherhood cognate, doesn't have a major problem with her daughter marrying a non-muslim, particularly a jew? And yet she's remarkably quiet on matter, isn't she? Is it possible that she believes her daughter's extremely haram marriage serves a larger purpose?
Oldefarte| 7.25.12 @ 5:17PM
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/p19045.xml)
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 7.25.12 @ 6:05PM
Considering that EVERY Muslim Student Association on EVERY college campus in this nation is supported by (& FOUNDED by) the Muslim Brotherhood, Ms. Bachmann's questions aren't out of line. Even Thomas Jefferson got the answer as to why the Barbary Pirates attacked our ships:
"In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:
It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once."... "American Peace Commissioners to John Jay," March 28, 1786, "Thomas Jefferson Papers,"
Ghost of Cicero (NB) | 7.25.12 @ 6:06PM
Anyone care to tell me what's changed in the Muslim world since then?
rocky01| 7.25.12 @ 7:08PM
We had a forthright Bush to fight the good fight then hundreds of years ago; now are there any Bushes still accomplished enough to fight Barbary Pirates' terror wrapping around the civilized world once again? The bold cunning is the same.
josh| 7.26.12 @ 3:58PM
It's amazing to see all the vitriolic statements referring to Bachman in the blogs whenever the subject of Abedin is mentioned. You're correct, she may be the new Hiss, but no one is willing to discuss this reasonably. It seems that the Clintons are never careful with their associations. This one may be more serious than Bill's dalliances.
Jacobite| 7.26.12 @ 6:13PM
Leftists are the world's best liars. Nothing they say can be believed as said. What Leftists meant when they claimed Hiss was 'innocent' of espionage wasn't that he did not spy for the USSR. What they meant was that spying for the Soviets was not wrong and therefore not deserving of punishment. What the Abedin defenders are meaning in defending her isn't that she is not a Muslim Brotherhood agent-of-influence, but that being such an agent is okay. Obviously, members of the ACLU or mass-media will find no fault in another organization working to destroy Western Civilization from within. They are allies!