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By on 6.22.12 @ 6:07AM

Liberal logic has become a contradiction in terms.

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In liberal logic, if life is unfair then the answer is to turn more tax money over to politicians, to spend in ways that will increase their chances of getting reelected.

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Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305. His website is www.tsowell.com. To find out more about Thomas Sowell and read features by other Creators Syndicate columnists and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (82) |

Brooksifier | 6.22.12 @ 6:32AM

"The visceral hostility of liberals against Sarah Palin is something that liberals themselves ought to be concerned about. After all, she is just someone who has a different opinion about politics and a different social background and style. What I fear the liberals most resent is their perception that she is someone who is talking back to her betters."

But America is too macho to elect a woman-- we could never have a Thatcher in America, Even Germany, the nation which put a few million and girls to death 70 years ago, has Merkel, a woman, at its head.

Shadow| 6.22.12 @ 9:18AM

Their hostility is in response to the fear she instills in her message of truth. She has an ability to speak the truth in common terms even the most ignorant liberal sheep can understand. If the sheep believe her, the jig is up for those in control of them.

Albertus Magnus| 6.22.12 @ 10:40AM

Considering the continuing "chickification" of America, it is difficult to imagine this being a country "too macho" to elect a woman.

Brooksifier | 6.22.12 @ 11:59PM

"Considering the continuing "chickification" of America, it is difficult to imagine this being a country "too macho" to elect a woman."

Palin wasn't even a contender this year. No woman was.
Again, Germany kills several million females, but less than 70 yrs. after 1945, they have Merkel-- while America can't even get a woman on the ballot for POTUS.

Albertus Magnus| 6.23.12 @ 10:02AM

So? This proves nothing. The same was said of a Black person a few years ago. Now we not only have a Black person as President, he is one of the dumbest people in politics. America was in a big hurry 4 years ago to prove that we COULD elect a Black man and look at the result. A disaster. It will happen again, as it will with a woman. When I don't know nor do I care. An election SHOULD be about the best candidate, not about race or sex. But people like you obsess over these things at the expense of good judgement.

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 11:26AM

Sarah Palin is a witch and has a witch doctor to prove it. She's a quitter, having run away from her responsibilities as Alaska's governor. She's a clothes horse that ran up 150, 000 dollars in fashion bills. She's a complete and utter disappointment. But she still stiffens "resolve" in Republican white men - but not appealing to their better angels, that's fer sure.

C. Vernon Crisler | 6.22.12 @ 1:24PM

She's an attractive, conservative woman, who scares liberals simply because she is attractive and conservative.

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 2:57PM

She's long past scaring anyone about her ability to influence anything important. But I'll give you, she is scary with her bordello home, rocker husband and illegitimate grandson.

C. Vernon Crisler | 6.22.12 @ 4:14PM

If she doesn't scare you, why are you obsessed with her?

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 7:18PM

"The visceral hostility of liberals against Sarah Palin is something that liberals themselves ought to be concerned about." - the writer brought the beotch up, not me. After all, you all dissed her in the end, not just the "liberals". She polls down there with Darth Cheney and Bush Baby. That's not just "liberals" that can't stomach her, now is it?

Brooksifier | 6.23.12 @ 12:02AM

She is pretty, that's all-- if Palin were a plain Jane she would be fishing with her husnband on his boat.

Riff Raff| 6.24.12 @ 12:19AM

This is a stupid comment. It calls into question you basic intelligence and sanity. You clearly are obsessed with attacking Palin for any reason you can dream up. You are a sick person and need professional help.

Riff Raff| 6.22.12 @ 1:41PM

Witch? Really? burb, you are the dumbest stump I have seen on these pages. You are rude, asinine, offensive, and just plain stupid. Responding to your diarreah of the mouth is pointless. You are irredeemable.

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 3:00PM

Your handle is Riff Raff, not mine. Look in the mirror, fool.
Here look at the moving pictures and learn something idiotboy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgZKKwct4cw
it took me 2 seconds to find this, lazy creep.

Riff Raff| 6.22.12 @ 5:03PM

I repeat, burp. You are the dumbest stump I have seen on these pages. You are rude, asinine, offensive, and just plain stupid. Responding to your diarreah of the mouth is pointless. You are irredeemable. Your link proves nothing, nothing at all. It is unfortunate there is no minimum intelligence required to vote, else you could never again cast a ballot that destroys peoples lives.

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 7:20PM

Ruh-roh, sounds like you can't defend yourself with anything more than personal attacks. I get it it, you are unarmed in a battle of wits.

Riff Raff| 6.22.12 @ 8:46PM

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! From the mistress of personal attacks and bad logic!

I am trying to determine if you were dropped on your head as an infant or if you are genetically stupid. I am leaning toward having been dropped since that would also explain your arrogance, violent temper, and socio-pathology.

Purp| 6.24.12 @ 5:09PM

I have no violent temper - this is just sparring with the unarmed. Easy enough to do with my eyes closed sparring with you. You're shooting blanks and you don't even know it. Does you wife know?

LindaF | 6.22.12 @ 6:49AM

Ever wonder why those who excoriate the rich never seem to mind becoming rich through "public service"? I don't have objection to those who conflate virtue with poverty. I just wonder why they can't seem to live up to their own values.

Von Mises Jr| 6.22.12 @ 8:07AM

That's an easy one, Linda. Because they are not talented or smart enough to make it in a capitalist free society where people are compensated in direct proportion to the value they create. So they must use government force to take what they could not otherwise earn.

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 11:32AM

That's a laugh - in direct proportion to the value they create?
Since overall, Congress is in the millionaire class, you really believe that tripe you just spewed?
There is nothing wrong with being rich, what's wrong is the special treatment, breaks and access that they have solely because of that wealth. Billionaires buying elections in a government for, by and of the people (not the rich) is just one form of this special status.

CJW| 6.22.12 @ 12:36PM

Good to hear that, Purpie. So you are against the Kennedys buying elections, Jay Rockefeller, John Corzine, Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, John Kerry Heinz, Hillary Clinton, all millionairs buying elections.

And you are against Obama giving 500 million to his fundraisers at Solyndra, and playing golf over 100 times while we are at war and in a recession, taking expensive vacations to Spain, Hawaii, "dates" to NYC, and hanging around the proleteriat working folks like George Clooney, Bono, and the rest.

Riff Raff| 6.22.12 @ 1:41PM

You are a laugh. You think government creates wealth and prosperity. You are just plain stupid.

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 3:02PM

Never said that - you must be a Republican - lie, misdirect and deceive.
I'll bet you don't create anything of value.

Riff Raff| 6.22.12 @ 5:07PM

I am not a Republican. Whether you "said" it or not, your posts lead to that conclusion, that you believe that government creates wealth. Unfortunately, you are too irredeemably stupid to know the consequences of your own babble. Democrats lie misdirect and decieve. As do you. You most commonly used tactic is to change the subject in mid-debate (e.g. misdirection.) And you lose the bet. I work in the private sector, not for the government.

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 6:44PM

Nope, I don't believe that. I question your powers of logic if you deduce that.
You are the stupid one that surmised that out of thin air.
It's what happens to wealth that matters in a democracy.
I also work in the private sector, have been a "job creator", investor and business owner, and a real job creator - a customer.
Using my own description of you is a stupid trick of the low information uneducated boob. I guess that means you.
You know nothing, you add nothing and you are nothing. Good handle for you, "Riff Raff" for that you are. Move along now and put your head back in your a***.

Riff Raff| 6.22.12 @ 8:53PM

Say what you will. It means nothing. You always jump to conclusions and ascribe motives to people that they do not have. You M.O. is personal attacks and hyperventilating and changing the subject when you can't compete (and you can't.) You have no idea why I chose "Riff Raff" as a handle. No idea at all, but that does not stop you from making something up out of thin air. Your remark is about as valid as if I claimed that you call yourself "purp" because you are a whore. There is no relation there, but I can say it nevertheless, just as you make ridiculous claims.

Debating with you is like playing chess against a pigeon. No matter how well I can play chess, the pigeon (you) just knocks over the pieces, craps on the board, and struts around like it is victorious. This suits you to a tee.

Have a nice day.

Purp| 6.23.12 @ 10:19AM

Riff Raff - apparently you are still unarmed and cannot win a battle of wits... so you simply send personal attack bombs that have little effect. If you'll notice, you say nothing with any import, relevance or significance to the day's issues. Why are you here?

Albertus Magnus| 6.22.12 @ 10:36AM

I have always objected to the term "public service." The speaker when I graduated college used his platform to encourage "public service" over private sector employment as a way to "give back" and prove one's worth by "devoting one's life to the service of others."

This of course is hogwash. "Public service" is a euphemism for a government patronage job. Patron poiltician gives job to someone who may have grave difficulty finding actual employment elsewhere. Patronage jobs have good pay, superior benefits, and lifetime security, not to mention low requirements for actual job performance. The grateful someone in receipt of such a job is guaranteed to vote appropriately. This is no more "public service" than pickpocketing.

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 11:36AM

You just have to look at what lobbyists make versus anyone in government service to know you're full of it. You need to compare apples to apples. Of course, as blue collar jobs went overseas to low wage, no benefits countries, blue collar jobs pay scales and benefits went down too. White collar jobs are doing the same. So, now there is an imbalance in the lower level government jobs compared to the blue collar and some white collar jobs. But it isn't because government workers cause this - Corporate America did. Tell them you want a raise and more benefits - oh, but wait, you can't, they'll fire you. Welcome the the Un-United Slaves of America.

Albertus Magnus| 6.22.12 @ 5:13PM

Lobbyists are compensated for what they produce, which is access to corrupt government officials. If the Federal government operated legally, that is UNDER the Supreme Law of the Land, rather than in open violation of that Law, then government would have less actual power and could offer less actual corruption to people who employ lobbyists. Lobbyists exist because corrupt government is for sale. And the greatest corruption today is the Democrat Party, the people YOU vote for. It can only be concluded that you too are as corrupt as your heroes in government. You are pathetic.

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 7:23PM

You are 1/2 right. Since you don't include your own party as implicated in even more corruption, and since they clearly are beholden to K street even more so than the Democratic party, you are the pathetic one to support the ones YOU vote for. They are on the dole, the take, grafters, grifters and you are blind to it.
I agree with your points up to "And the greatest corruption..." where you went off the partisan rails.
Come back and throw them all out, and we have an agreement.

Albertus Magnus| 6.22.12 @ 8:59PM

And what, pray tell, exactly is my party? I am not a Republican. I used to be but quit 15 years ago because they act too much like their brethren Democrats, the kings of corruption. Furthermore, I have not voted FOR anyone since Ronald Reagan. Since then I have voted AGAINST people who were clearly incompetent or corrupt (or in the case of Obama, both.)

The real question is when you will admit that your party is rife with corruption. (And yes, buying votes with taxpayer money IS corruption, just as it was in ancient Rome 2,000 years ago.) Hasn't happened yet that I have seen.

Purp| 6.23.12 @ 10:25AM

My dear Sir - I totally agreed with you that BOTH parties are inculcated with corruption. But where money is concerned, Republicans are more involved in quid pro quo corruption than the D's. I never said I was a Democrat either. A lot here think I am, simply because I will not move farther right, just because most here are far, far right. That just makes me seem left to them.
For the record though, buying votes IS corruption - no matter WHERE the money comes from. SuperPacs are NOT supposed to be politically active. It is considered unlawful - Isn't that a laugh at our expense?
I suspect we are far more agreement than you think. But then I can't be sure.

Albertus Magnus| 6.24.12 @ 12:32AM

Well, let's put that to the test. I object to centralized, concentrated governmental powers. The US Constitution is intentionally designed (and LEGISLATED) to provide for limited federal powers and provides that most political powewr reside with State and local governments. Government is not a means to prosperity since government is utterly incapable of creating wealth or building an economy. The absolute best government can do is provide a legal framewirk wherein people can prosper without interference from government or from plutocrats who would use government to advance their own prosperity at the expense of taxpayers. I object to buying votes with tacpeayer money. I object to Roman style Patronage poltitics. I object to both major politcal parties when they practice this Roman style politics, which is most of the time. I object to government "investing" taxpayer money since government is composed of people who are by definition incompetent to run businesses or create wealth. I object to career politicians who advance their own prosperity by manipulating tax law to benefit their handlers. I could go on, but I hope you get the idea. I agree with Jefferson who believed that MOST political power should be local, not federal.

Albertus Magnus| 6.24.12 @ 12:33AM

Continued:

One simply can not believe in individual freedom and still vote for Oboma. The two are totally incompatible. And I challenge anyone to name ONE Democrat in Washington who believes these things. I probably could not name more than a very few Republicans, but there certainly are zero Democrats. All are on the take. All want to take away my freedom. All want to have government micromanage the economy for political purposes.

Albertus Magnus| 6.24.12 @ 12:34AM

If you agree with anything I have written, frankly I would be shocked. But then it would not be the first time. last, I don;t play partisan politics. I look for fealty to the Law first, and I find little of it in the Republican Party and none in the Democrat party.

Purp| 6.24.12 @ 5:21PM

You're right, we don't totally agree. I do agree with you rail against plutocracy. The State and Local argument sailed a long, long time ago. It is the abuse of Federal power for the special interests that corrupts that bargain between State and Federal spheres, however.
I agree with Hamilton, who believed that a strong Central Government is necessary. Hamilton won the argument, btw, and Jefferson lost. The Articles of Confederation had a weak Central Government and the successor to the Articles was the US Constitution, where the Federal Government was considerably strengthened, over Jefferson's objections. Jefferson did, however, get the Bill of Rights explicitly enumerated, when Madison and others did not think it necessary.
Interestingly, though, Jefferson acted unconstitutionally to buy the Louisiana purchase from France. Nowhere in the Constitution did he have that authority. He did it anyway for the good of the country - as have almost every President before and since.
Basically, Americans are a pragmatic, not dogmatic nor doctrinaire people, allowing for programs to be promoted, like the LA. Purchase, the Interstate Highway system, the Transcontinental Railroad system for example - all unconstitutional, yet accepted and successful.
The Constitution was never meant to be followed to the letter. Nowhere will you find the Founders saying that.

Albertus Magnus| 6.25.12 @ 2:01PM

"The Constitution was never meant to be followed to the letter. Nowhere will you find the Founders saying that."

It's hard to know where to begin to respond to such a statement, or to you post overall. You are terribly ill-informed. This last statement is utterly ludicrous and one finds it pointless to debate with someone who holds such ridiculous views. The Founders certainly intended that the Constitution be followed to the letter, that is why the Constitution was ratified as LAW. The government is subject to the law by definition of it being law! If the law needs changing, then change it by the amendment procedure. But the US government has no authority of any kind to ignore the law, or violate the law, or cahnge the Supreme law. Te Founders didn't need to say it, it is implicit in the Constitution being law! This is fundamental. The Founders knew history, and understood that one of the many reasons Rome fell was the Roman government's ability to redefine it own powers. This is prohibited by the Constitution since it is a creation of the States, not the central government. To believe as you do is to believe in no limits at all on government power save those government may impose on itself.

Albertus Magnus| 6.25.12 @ 2:13PM

Continued: The Founders knew that government could never be trusted to live within limits it may impose on itself and created a Law to define and thus limit by superior authority the powers of the central government. So, yes. By definition the Constitution WAS meant to be followed to the letter. Even Hamilton understood the limits imposed by Law. The debate was over how much power to give the central government, not how much it could usurp for itself by violating the Constitution.

If the constitution becomes out of date or needs a "pragmatic" update, then then States can amend it to accomodate. But the central government has absolutely zero authority to do this on its own. This frankly is grade school civics, and is foundational to understanding why the US Constitution is different and a sea change in the history of governmental power. That you clearly do not comprehend this simple fact is astonishing and to be honest debating someone with such ludicrous views as yours, is pointless and unproductive. I shall no more respond to you or address commentary to you. You are hopeless and helpless. Have a nice day.

benny havens| 6.22.12 @ 6:53AM

The liberal screams “stay out of my bedroom’, “leave my vagina alone” but are perfectly fine with the government putting its hand in your pocket and taking your money.

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 11:38AM

Republicans just want it to be taken from your children's and grandchildren's pocket. Liberals believe in personal responsibility and expect you to pay your way - not by way of China and your kids.

Riff Raff| 6.22.12 @ 1:42PM

This is a lie. Your lies carry no weight.

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 3:03PM

And, yet 10 Trillion of the National Debt was placed there under Reagan and the Bush Twins. Check the facts, bubblehead.

TrueBlue | 6.22.12 @ 3:44PM

It took 20 years for them to manage it however, Obama managed half that amount in only 4 years. Continue his policies and we'll be at 2.5x what the Repubs have managed.

Reagan and HW Bush had an excuse, they had real wars to deal with.

GW burnt money like crazy on Afghanistan and Iraq, but his budgets were still less than 1/3 what Obama's have been. Or rather, they were until the Dems gained control of Congress in 2006. Mysteriously the next year the budget jumped in FY08 to over $1 trillion.

Meanwhile the idiot in the White House right now has been forcing military cuts while preventing them elsewhere (even though Defense is only 20% of the budget) and he's STILL increasing the yearly deficit. Yup, all about paying your way... Where is he getting the money for that again? Oh yea, CHINA.

Purp| 6.23.12 @ 10:32AM

Excuse? Oh, the Bush Depression, 2 Wars, the Unfunded Medicare Drug Benefit, and the ill-conceived Bush Tax Cuts were all passed on the Obama, along with a 1.4 Trillion deficit, and you think Reagan and Papa Bush had an excuse? Seriously, you need to think about that.
As far as Bush's wars, they didn't show on the Budget, they were handled "Off-budget" to hide the true costs from the American people. And, in your case, it obviously hid it from you. Obama put the wars on the Budget when he came into office, so you don't know what you're talking about. You ignored the TARP 800 Billion that was signed under Bush as well, the intial Auto bailout under Bush, Freddie and Fannie bailouts, AIG bailout (altho the Fed handled that).
If you don't like deficit spending, why did you vote Republican, EVER? Three presidents, all Republican, are still responsible for signing the bills that created the majority of our National Debt. That's a fact, and you can't get around it. Nope, don't try - why aren't you people accountable for your own bills? Freeloaders ...

Albertus Magnus| 6.22.12 @ 5:14PM

I have. You listen to propaganda, not facts. Get an education. Learn real economics. Study real history. I have, moron.

Purp| 6.23.12 @ 10:33AM

So where did the 10 Trillion of the 16 Trillion come from ? Hmmmmm? You THINK you know, but you don't.

Butch| 6.22.12 @ 5:21PM

"Liberals believe in personal responsibility and expect you to pay you way"--and their way, too.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 6.22.12 @ 7:02AM

This should be on the desks of every high school in America. Fat chance!

Appleby| 6.22.12 @ 7:16AM

Does anybody really think that if the sun rose today on Washington DC and the President, Vice President, and Congress had all mysteriously vanished, that the country would not continue to function just the way it does now?

chuck| 6.22.12 @ 7:23AM

Wouldn't it be nice to find out?

I think it would function much better without the interference.

Appleby| 6.22.12 @ 8:54AM

PSSST to scientists working on that hypothesis of time as innumerable tracks that we create by our choices---can we somehow harness the energy of American thoughts to shift us all on a time track where these guys don't exist?

Anthony| 6.22.12 @ 9:16AM

Unfortunately, there are still way too many RINOs seeking accommodation with the left. The Bush family seems to be obsessed with their patrician sense of nobless oblige along the lines of Neville Chamberlain. Principle is not concept they comprehend, I guess it's a dirty word, sort of like conservativism.
Barry Goldwater had it right, and so did Ronald Reagan; so let me paraphrase, it is noble to exercise extremism in defense of our constitutional republic, especially in the face of radical transformation.
Under what Constitutional right does Obozo and the left have the right to transform America and our founding documents?
If the Bushes and Colin Powell and the rest of the RINOs still don't get it, fine, get the hell out of the way, and let us rubes show you what our Founders were made of.

Petronius| 6.22.12 @ 9:25AM

Once more: People do not care how heavily their wallets are taxed so long as their minds are not.
Their knowledge of economics is the sum of three words, have, get, and benefit. Earn and value are polar opposites of luck which matters most.
And any liberal knows that Truth is dictated by the noisiest most threatening mob.

MK48| 6.22.12 @ 10:37AM

One more time........LIBERAL...."is a communist with a college education thinking neg*o thoughts".

Johnny Depp

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 11:23AM

Communist? What communists? It's a dying or dead philosophy. Where have YOU been?

Skippy| 6.22.12 @ 4:49PM

The US Cabinet and the O'Bama czars just made you a liar.

Purp| 6.23.12 @ 10:35AM

Like I said, "Where have YOU been? " That's so lame, old, passe it holds no weight or significance except on Fixed News, run by the 80 year old that's still thinking it's 1964.

Albertus Magnus| 6.22.12 @ 10:19AM

Obama is "charismatic?" President Bozo has about as much "charisma" as a bowl of cold, unflavored oatmeal. The man is dull, dull, dull. And witless. His sole claim to any charismatic traits whatsoever is his alleged rhetorical skills. Yet, he is a terrible public speaker, employing horrible cliches, reading other people's words and is completely lost without a teleprompter. Barack Obama is a man of low to moderate intelligence with no skills and no accomplishments. How this translates into "charisma" is beyond me.

That said, Dr. Sowell is quite correct in pointing out the dangers of putting one's faith and hopes in a man of "charisma." Adolf Hitler comes to mind when discussing "charismatic" World leaders, and of course America is home to a host of Elmer Gantry type "charismatic" low lifes. I'll vote for a man of accomplishment and character over "charisma" any day.

Anthony| 6.22.12 @ 10:53AM

Quite right Albertus. Unfortunately, the black community has had a long history of following their phony preachers into to hell of leftism.
From Father Devine, Adam Clayton Powell, Jackson, Sharpton, and of course, he who must not be spoken of, Rev. Wright. Frauds all, who laughed all the way to those "whitey" banks with all that cash.
Same with the white "intellectual" community that has also followed its secular preachers, from Marx to Saul Alinsky.
As leftists implode daily, with their rants of incoherence, a la Nancy Pelosi, and their media whores sink into total denial over "Fast & Furious", we know that we are witnessing the death of leftism.
And Obozo is the delivery boy of leftism to the final trash heap of history.

Controse| 6.22.12 @ 10:45AM

I have learned to look to Mr. Sowell for guidance on matters of public policy aimed at saving our form of government. It is now my turn to give Mr. Sowell some guidance on the matter of short skirts. To wit : The shorter the skirt the less imagination it takes to visualize the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow; so to speak.

Albertus Magnus| 6.22.12 @ 10:54AM

"...the low intellectual quality of people who come out of our schools of education is the 800-pound gorilla that keeps getting ignored. Such teachers cannot give their students intellectual abilities that they themselves don't have."

Teaching should be a profession, not a union job. They should have professional credentials, earn professional salaries, and be held to professional performance standards. A teacher who failes those standards should be professionally fired. But then, if teachers were professional, they could not be bought lock stock and barrel by politicians. Teaching has become a unionized patronage job, and teachers serve the purpose of first voting appropriately and second indoctrinating other people's children in the right way to vote. Giving "intellectual abilities" to students is not a part of this process, so having intellectual abilities is not a requirement. I have met enough teachers, both from my child's school years and in college, to know that what Dr. Sowell writes about is correct and is a critical social problem that is being ignored at our nation's peril.

minktulip| 6.22.12 @ 11:10AM

Hollande was only joking about "the world of finance"-like every other leader in his indebted country he relies on financiers to fund his electoral promises. He is of course quite rich himself after his illustrious political career and things will only get better now he is president.

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 11:12AM

For years you heard the re.th.ugs talk about Activist Judges when all the while they were setting the table for just that.....

And if you believed them as they blamed others for what they themselves were doing then you were enjoying.........

The Splendid Whine of Plutocracy

* We Don't want to be Scrutinized.....................................We've got Money

* We know many of us Wrecked the Economy, but............We've got Money

* We know that Polticians/SCOTUS' work for us, but..........We've got Money

* We are Job Creators, but we want cheap labor, b/c..........We've got Money

* We have wealth, but it shouldn't be taxed b/c...................We've got Money

* We know that Bailouts benefited us, but..........................We've got Money; YOUR MONEY

And finally, We've got Money and you don't; so remember that when you vote...Or Else!

So keep drinking the Whine or sipping the TEA; until you're too dr.unk to notice what is really taking place, by then, it won't matter anyway cause you won't be able to do anything about it anyhow!

CJW| 6.22.12 @ 12:39PM

Purpie, you seem to be working overitme posting your drivel. Be sure your boss pays you the overtime rate for hours over 40 per week. Maybe you should join a labor union.

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 3:05PM

No response. Okay, I understand you can't refute the facts. Finally, you get it.
You do know what a Plutocracy is, don't you? It's not people from Pluto or some Disney created Fantasyland.

Butch| 6.22.12 @ 5:27PM

May be the most envy I've ever seen compressed into one post.

Purp| 6.23.12 @ 10:37AM

Seen any of them hauled off to jail? What do you disagree with?
Envy? No. Standing up for the Rule of Law, yes. Is that why we jail bank robbers and murderers - we envy them? Please, get a life.

Tom Kyba| 6.22.12 @ 2:12PM

You folks don't understand. Burp has a degree from the Noam Chomsky School of Social philosophy. Bitch and moan about rich folk while pretending that 99% of them are conservatives, rail against the evils of the U.S. no matter what the subject, while privately lining your pockets with all the green you can get your mitts on. You are changing no one's mind here Burp, not for the fairy-tale reason that we are all brainwashed, but because you are an intellectual poseur who rehashes(poorly) the same tired cliches we've heard for decades. I'm sorry that you are a liberal. Must be tough trying to convince people that you actually think beyond the 2nd grade level. I'd suggest that you get someone to read some of Sowell's books to you, but then he's just an oreo right Mr. Hankey?

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 3:13PM

It is tough to fight illogical beliefs. But doesn't make those beliefs true. Just point me to one economy in the world that ever succeeded following Hayek, Von Mises or Ayn Rand's economic philosophy. It's all hokey fantasyland bull and you don't even know it. Obviously, Marx was completely wrong. What do you think about Schumpeter? Keynes?
Hmmmm? Come on smart a**, show us your brain. We know you have a smart mouth.

Simon Templar| 6.22.12 @ 5:02PM

You asked for one nation, the United States of America,the most powerful, capitalistic, free, and richest nation in the world which has largely, with exceptions, followed the Hayek/Adam Smith philosophy for most of its existence. Every nation that has adopted even partially this philosophy has succeeded including the beloved Sweden which has once again returned to a greater free market system.

Now, that is fact. Facts which you will refuse to submit to as you are mentally ill and suffering from liberal progressivism.

Well, you certainly got a burr on your ass about Palin and could not help yourself with the usual liberal lies, explicatives, and falsehoods despite the fact that you claim to love truth, facts, and logic. LOL. The same goes with your parroting diatribes about economics, of which you know as much as your mentor, Marx did.

You should know that you are indeed a cliche as Tom as pointed out as your diatribes, fits, and liberal projection tantrums are extremely predictable, boring, and pathetic. But keep posting because every time you open your mouth you help the conservative cause as anyone with half an operating brain can see through your self deluded barrage of nonsense.

Simon Templar| 6.22.12 @ 5:09PM

As conservatives we are well aware that life is unfair and there are indeed those in society that obtain wealth at the expense of others and do it dishonestly. We are also not childlike and juvenile to believe the nonsense that you learned from you equally self deluded Marxist professors and liberal public school teachers.

We are also very aware that our nation is largely ruled by a ruling elite class that make up largely the same idiots that you so revere and listen to such as Hollywood, the media, the academic intelligentsia, lawyers, lobbyist, corrupt politicians, and very wealthy liberal corporatist and opportunist. We do not need a lecture from you about the dangers that we all struggle with here in this nation and the unfairness that sometimes occurs. You need to grow up.
Drop the class struggle and Marxist baloney and the rich vs. poor paradigms. Life is a little more complicated.

Purp| 6.22.12 @ 7:06PM

Actually you are 1/2 right. America has done best when following Adam Smith's 18th century philosophy in total. Hayek is an outlier from the 20th century that his little to offer except fear of communism, socialism and central planning.
Smith’s Wealth of Nations severely criticized mercantilism—the dominant economic system of eighteenth-century Europe that routinely undermined economic liberty in the name of extensive, state-driven economic development.
Broadly speaking, Smith held that the government’s general responsibilities embraced foreign policy, national defense, the administration of justice, and public works.
Still, as Smith himself acknowledged, there will be exceptions. "Subsidiarity" is Smith's idea where the government intervenes where normally it need not. Conservatives highlight his first principle, but ignore subsidiarity, where government intervention is promoted as necessary when appropriate.
You really should read his entire book, not just the cherry picked chapters to support your ideas.

clemsberry| 6.23.12 @ 2:22PM

this man makes too much sense, ignor him. this guy speaks the trueth, please pay him no mind.
...............................................B.Obama

clemsberry| 6.23.12 @ 2:30PM

two things. 1). is the united states better off with more rich people or less rich people?,,,2). the word liberal..it doesn't mean anything. socialist does. please all---drop the word liberal. i like a liberal amount of ice cream. i enjoy liberal amounts of this and that. socialist is what has meaning and paints the democratic party the right way. spread the word....thanks..mike

diligentdave| 6.23.12 @ 9:11PM

God foresaw this "liberal" and "austerity/conservative" stuff. 8th century B.C. (or, if you prefere, B.C.E.) foretold—

5 The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be bountiful.

6 For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the LORD, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail.

7 The instruments also of the churl are evil: he deviseth wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words, even when the needy speaketh right.

8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.
—(Isaiah 32:5 - 8)

Of course, in the words of the rock band, Buffalo Springfield in their one hit song, "For What It's Worth" said—

"Nobody's right if everybody's wrong."

The basic concept of "The Blame Game", 'played' everyday (as it were), on such cyber pages such as these, is "I'm Okay. You're Wrong." or "I'm Okay, You're Okay, They're Wrong."

To some extent or another, WE ARE ALL WRONG. We collectively have gotten ourselves into this mess. I believe we neither understand how or why, so our solutions will not redeem us from our situation.

bluecollarbytes| 6.23.12 @ 6:57PM

Obama's 'charisma' is like Bill Clinton's 'unprecedented political talents', impressive to those who like them.

diligentdave| 6.23.12 @ 8:57PM

"Increasing numbers of people seem to have convinced themselves that they are entitled to a "fair share" of what someone else has earned. Whole nations now seem to think that they should be bailed out from the consequences of their own reckless spending by nations that lived within their means."

I agree with most of what Thomas Sowell has said in this piece. But here, I must ask someone to point out to me, WHICH NATION IN THE WORLD HAS STAYED WITHIN ITS MEANS (i.e., has NO debt)?

Cobalt| 6.24.12 @ 10:14AM

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Cobalt| 6.24.12 @ 10:31AM

If the link, in the post above doesn't work, go to:

http://www.pjtv.com/, and click on Bill Whittle.

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