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The Current Crisis
The Great Debate
Zombie Liberals would rather sit this one out.
WASHINGTON — Here I am on the campaign trail, frenetically promoting my book, The Death of Liberalism. I appear on scores of radio interviews, in and out of the studio. I appear on Fox News and C-SPAN. I hardly have time for dinner, but it could be more demanding still. I could be invited to appear on mainstream media, as it is still quaintly called. Yet I am not. ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, and MSNBC do not call. I, the editor of a major magazine from the right that has been around for 45 years, have written a book arguing that a major political ideology, Liberalism, is dead, and no one in the mainstream media seems to think it merits even a spitball. Things have changed even more than the mainstream media knows.
Thirty years ago, when I came out with a book, all the above networks — at least all the above networks that were then in business — would have me on. They thought I was crazy, but they would have me on. Through all these years my views have not changed or radicalized. They remain pretty much fixed, though possibly I am a little bit more liberal. I am more tolerant of sexual diversity. I have flipped and oppose capital punishment. I am open to reforming the criminal justice system to treat nonviolent crime differently from violent crimes. But today the mainstream media is alien country to me. I cannot get in even with a green card. Three, possibly four, presidents have been my friends, but I remain persona non grata with mainstream media, especially when I talk about politics.
The voices of conventional mainstream media never tire of mawkishly saying that something has changed in America. In this I agree with them. Yet as my hordes of publicists spread out through medialand tempting the personages with appetizing morsels of my thesis, only the conservatives bite. The Liberals turn a stony face. In 2009 when Sam Tanenhaus came out with a book titled The Death of Conservatism they clapped their hands, though there was no evidence in the book to support its thesis, and a year later, on October 19, 2010, as the conservatives were about to have their mightiest victory in decades, the unfortunate Tanenhaus came out with a second edition now in paperback!
Today, of course, the mainstream media bewail how polarized the political landscape has become. They fret over the violent language, the dirty tricks, the lack of dialogue. But what they are fretting about is that there has over the past thirty years appeared a point of view that disagrees with the serried ranks of Liberalism. It is the point of view held by 42 percent of the American people. It is the point of view that has dominated politics since Ronald Reagan’s election and gained emphasis since President Bill Clinton threw up his hands and said, “The era of big government is over.” It was in retreat in the last years of George W. Bush and perhaps the first six months of President Obama, but now it is again dominant. It is also a perfectly respectable point of view.
As I continue on my campaign, I am increasingly aware that what has changed in the country is mainstream media. They are less hospitable to conservatives. They act like a political party, an especially partisan party. Conservatives have emerged in media to express their point of view on major issues of the day. This is diversity of opinion that the increasingly partisan mainstream media cannot countenance, and so they say it is shocking. It is incendiary. It is closed-minded.
Actually, one of the rare figures on television or radio that strenuously works to include both the left and the right in debates is — prepare yourself — Sean Hannity of Fox News. He really works at it. He airs people who disagree with him and he lets the left and the right have at each other. As for mainstream media, if it airs a debate between the left and the right the person on the right is usually a critic of the right who feigns a therapeutic message for conservatism, say, David Frum, a man with no standing on the right.
I say wherever I go nowadays that Liberalism is dead. One piece of evidence is mainstream media. It pretends the dominant political view in the country does not exist, conservatism.
About the Author
R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. is the founder and editor in chief of The American Spectator. He is the author of The Death of Liberalism, published by Thomas Nelson Inc. His previous books include the New York Times bestseller Boy Clinton: the Political Biography; The Impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton; The Liberal Crack-Up; The Conservative Crack-Up; Public Nuisances; The Future that Doesn’t Work: Social Democracy’s Failure in Britain; Madame Hillary: The Dark Road to the White House; The Clinton Crack-Up; and After the Hangover: The Conservatives’ Road to Recovery.
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Booger| 5.24.12 @ 6:25AM
From the desk of Keith Olbermannn:
Dear Human Resources Person,
I understand you have recently been looking into hiring some person of thoughtful magnificence as a journalist for your network. Well relax, your search is over! Many people have told horrible, horrible lies and suggested that my career as Amerikkka's number one progressive journalist is over. Nothing could be further from the truth! My career is alive and well, and I believe together we can re-make Amerikkka into the kind of place someone would actually want to live!
We do, of course, have a small problem. The Satanic Fiend Rupert Murdoch, who is the Worst Person in the World, has polluted the airwaves, or cable waves, or internet waves, or whatever it is these days with his hate-filled counter-revolutionary reactionary garbage. WE MUST STOP HIM!!!!! How? By ignoring him!
Even when I was a tiny little progressive, only knee high to ants who were members of the worker class, my mother always told me to just ignore a bully/purse snatcher/child molester/Republican and they will just go away. That is what we must do now, and that is what I can do for your network! I will just ignore them! REALLY, I WILL!!!!! I WILL PRETEND THEY JUST DON'T EXIST, JUST LIKE THESE WEIRD PURPLE BUGS CRAWLING UP MY LEGS!!!!!
Ummm, okay, at any rate. I believe we will be a big hit if we just do a show where we pretend these so-called "conservatives" (FASCIST REACTIONARY BABY EATERS) don't exist. We will not talk to them or about them. We will not interview them or review their books. And they will go away. NOT US! I WILL NEVER GO AWAY! EVERYONE WILL KNOW ME AND LOVE ME! I know I can make this program work. It's been a huge success at MSNBC and the ALGORE Network. It was only because of secret subversive reactionary elements that infiltrated those networks (possibly jewish neocon zionists) that I was forced to leave. I know that your network, of course, harbors no such hateful elements. I know we can make this work. I know my career is NOT DEAD! And I look forward to hearing from you soon, or else YOU ARE THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!
Sincerely,
Keith Olbermann
P.S. Jimmy Carter says hello.
Herman | 5.24.12 @ 6:31AM
Keep up the good fight, Mr.Tyrrel. We are winning.
Jack in Wi.| 5.24.12 @ 7:13AM
With all due respect to Mr. Tyrrell. We haven't had a conservative as the Republican nominee for 28 years. We had dam few before that. It seems to me, the liberals have had a liberal to vote for in every presidential election in the last 84 years. They have the most liberal guy yet, sitting in the White House right now, and we yet again don't have a conservative nominee.
Doctor Right| 5.24.12 @ 8:56AM
Been gone for a week. Nothing ever changes...
W| 5.24.12 @ 12:14PM
Welcome back, Doc.
The more things change the more they remain the same.
Occam's Tool| 5.24.12 @ 8:21PM
Dr. R: It is pleasant to contemplate that some things do not change. Your brilliance, for example. :-)
TLP| 5.25.12 @ 6:04AM
You can't be serious.
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 12:47PM
Especially when Dr. Right has the audacity to say that one being born of the Spirit could not have possibly been because God doesn't work that way!
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 11:26AM
Shazam, 28 years? And I thought Reagan was conservative. Guess he didn't ride LJ in TOO SHORT SHORTS and bay at the moon!!!!!!!!
Ted Seeber| 5.24.12 @ 12:21PM
Reagan was a Hollywood Liberal who was playing the role of a conservative. That's why so many Democrats voted for him.
StanO| 5.24.12 @ 1:28PM
So your proposition is that conservatism is this tiny niche of an ideology that will never get a candidate elected? The last conservative was whom? Coolidge? Jefferson?
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 4:40PM
Well if you people want the alternative, try this:
'.....Breitbart.comObama DOJ Forces University To Allow Biological Male Into Female Restrooms by Ben Shapiro 2 hours ago The Obama Department of Justice has reportedly ordered the University of Arkansas at Ft. Smith (UAFS) to allow a male student to use women’s bathrooms on campus. Campus Reform reports that a male student who calls himself “Jennifer Braly,” and is in the process of raising money to pay for his sex-reassignment surgery, filed a complaint with the Office of Civil Rights in the Department of Justice after the campus told him to use gender-neutral bathrooms rather than women’s restrooms. “Someone saw me using the women’s public restrooms and complained,” said Braly. “[O]ne problem to this is there are not unisex bathrooms in every building. Especially the two main buildings where most of my classes are, so I have to go to a completely different building to use the restroom.” The university had offered to turn more gender-specific bathrooms into gender-neutral bathrooms. Braly filed the complaint anyway.Mark Horn, vice president of university relations, said that the DOJ “basically made its expectations through the attorney and the decision was made to respond to that direction … [the] DOJ complaint caused revisiting of our thinking … In the eyes of the law this individual is entitled to use the bathroom that she identifies with.” Women on campus have complained about Braly using the female restrooms.Braly is anatomically male. He is also 36 years old, and has been married twice, and has a biological daughter with his second ex-wife. The DOJ has refused to release the letter in question.
Ben Shapiro is Editor-At-Large of Breitbart News. Follow him on Twitter @benshapiro.
mzk1| 5.24.12 @ 5:41PM
We were laughed at when we were told thatthe Equal Rights Amendment would lead to this. Well, they were right to laugh.
The amendment was defeated in New York on the state level (by the women) and then on a national level, and we still get this.
mblackngreen| 5.26.12 @ 3:21PM
It used to be a common slang statement in ghetto culture "stop shammin"...
seems our DOJ just can't
DesertFlower| 5.25.12 @ 3:50AM
Recommend you read "Reagan in his Own Hand." Also, while many blue-collar Democrats supported Reagan, the elitist Far Left despised him and did not vote for him--though now for some reason they tend to wax nostalgic about him.
Biggy D| 5.24.12 @ 12:58PM
Yep, we've had two since 1924: Goldwater and Reagan.
Jack in Wi.| 5.24.12 @ 1:57PM
The conservative nominees since 1920 were Harding, Coolidge, Goldwater and Reagan. Reagan was the last conservative nominee in 1984. Since then the party has been re-hijacked by the usual elites. The liberals have had a guy to vote for in every election since 1928.
mzk1| 5.24.12 @ 5:41PM
Goldwater was a libertarian, not a conservative.
That's why we got creamed.
Drunken Sailor| 5.24.12 @ 5:54PM
In Jack's viewpoint Libertarians are the only conservatives out there. Oh yea, and he hates jews.
Jack in Wi.| 5.24.12 @ 6:25PM
Old Drunk: I am a real conservative not a idiot Neocon like you. Who are you one of Romney's paid shills who stink up the site? He sure as hell hasn't got many ccommitted supporters. The only reason Romney has a chance of winning is because Obama has been such a rotten President. This election is a choice between death by cancer or Aids. Nobody here has anything to say good about Romney, except that he isn't Obama. That isn't good enough for me.
Col Bat Guano| 5.24.12 @ 7:28PM
Hear, hear. Presidential elections have been a choice of the "Least of two evils" for awhile now. There's little difference between the Democratic Party and the GOP except which side of the predatory bird they are flapping from. The greatest threat our Republic faces today is Washington DC.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 7:46AM
Tanned, rested and ready; the beautiful letters return. Welcome back, Booger.
Booger| 5.24.12 @ 8:28AM
Danke Schoen
W| 5.24.12 @ 12:15PM
Albert
Maybe Booger is Wayne Newton. Now I am humming the song.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 12:47PM
Now you've got me doing it (though Wayne pronounces it like "Shane" in the western, whereas Booger spells it without the umlaut with the o modified instead by the e).
Have you seen the fake Albert Constantine Jr. posts throughout the site today?
W| 5.24.12 @ 1:33PM
Yes. I knew it wasn't you. Who do you suspect? Someone envious of your name and style. Sounds like a lawsuit to me.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 2:32PM
Yesterday, I outed the student trolls in Anna K. of Emory U.'s class, so that would be my first list of suspects.
W| 5.24.12 @ 3:02PM
Take it as a compliment.
It was probably their final exam or an extra credit project. Maybe she is related to the NC "teacher" who yelled at her students that they cannot "disrespect the Presi-Dent in her class.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 6:00PM
Do you remember the episode where Freddy Beemer the mechanic appropriates Jim's identity while he is away, runs bar tabs and opens cases, etc.?
W| 5.24.12 @ 7:02PM
Yes. James Whitman Jr., had the tape to hold his glasses together, at the PI awards dinner. Saw one Rockford this week, a good one, when Jim is called to the federal grand jury to testify about a union boss who disappeared.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 7:19PM
I think it was entitled "So help me, God", and William Daniels (I think that's the name of the guy who did the voice of the car in "Night Rider") was the prosecutor or AUSA.
W| 5.24.12 @ 7:39PM
Right. Daniels was a doctor on St. Elsewhere, along with Denzell Washington, Howie Mandell, and others. He did a good AUSA.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 8:56PM
I particularly enjoyed the part where Jim reads aloud the law journal article to the grand jury, and then identifies AUSA Caine (Daniels) as the author.
Daniels was in another episode that year as a different character, who hires Jim to purchase a sculpture of a bird (somewhat in the manner of "The Maltese Falcon").
Alan Brooks| 5.24.12 @ 5:49PM
"Danke Schoen"
Drang nach Osten Seaboard.
Occam's Tool| 5.24.12 @ 8:22PM
Booger: beautiful belching.
mzk1| 5.24.12 @ 5:42PM
Ditto! Missed you.
Vern Crisler| 5.24.12 @ 10:20AM
"I am a little bit more liberal. I am more tolerant of sexual diversity. I have flipped and oppose capital punishment. I am open to reforming the criminal justice system to treat nonviolent crime differently from violent crimes."
Perhaps this is the problem RET. You've drifted leftward yourself and now the leftist media no longer sees you as representing true blue conservatism. Not enough difference.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 10:46AM
Liberalism is dead all right. I attended its funeral. New Orleans last month. One hell of a funeral. Marching band, dancing in the street--not Bourbon Street, but Royal--lots of drinking.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 11:20AM
As Garry Moore used to say, "Will the Real Albert Constantine, Jr. please stand up".
This one is not a bad impersonator, but the last sentence is a "dead" giveaway.
dipesto| 5.25.12 @ 1:31AM
That was Bud Collier on To Tell the Truth.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.25.12 @ 7:52AM
Garry Moore also hosted the program from 1969 until around 1977, which was when I watched it. In addition, his family's property (which is now Banning Park outside Wilmington, Delaware) was across the road from my great grandfather's farm (now a suburban subdivision), so he was a more natural choice for me.
William Watson| 5.24.12 @ 12:34PM
Excellent point.......think about it, Emmet!!!
Biggy D| 5.24.12 @ 1:00PM
I'm not sure that flippig on capital punishment is liberal. The Catholic and Orthodox Churches oppose it. Besides, once you recognize -- as only a conservative will -- that government always screws up, it becomes imperative not to impose a draconian penalty.
I waver on capital punishment. I don't think that's wavering in conservatism.
One Mediator, Jesus| 5.24.12 @ 4:31PM
The Catholic Papacy executed their own capital punishment for six centuries and tortured and Murdered Bible believing Christians whille they played God over who ever refused to bow to their filthy Apostate teachings.
Funny, isn't it, that they'd be against capital punishment now?
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 4:45PM
Yeah, this CATHOLIC TERRORISM excrement is really important when the following is happening presently right under your nose:
'.....Breitbart.comObama DOJ Forces University To Allow Biological Male Into Female Restrooms by Ben Shapiro 2 hours ago The Obama Department of Justice has reportedly ordered the University of Arkansas at Ft. Smith (UAFS) to allow a male student to use women’s bathrooms on campus. Campus Reform reports that a male student who calls himself “Jennifer Braly,” and is in the process of raising money to pay for his sex-reassignment surgery, filed a complaint with the Office of Civil Rights in the Department of Justice after the campus told him to use gender-neutral bathrooms rather than women’s restrooms. “Someone saw me using the women’s public restrooms and complained,” said Braly. “[O]ne problem to this is there are not unisex bathrooms in every building. Especially the two main buildings where most of my classes are, so I have to go to a completely different building to use the restroom.” The university had offered to turn more gender-specific bathrooms into gender-neutral bathrooms. Braly filed the complaint anyway.Mark Horn, vice president of university relations, said that the DOJ “basically made its expectations through the attorney and the decision was made to respond to that direction … [the] DOJ complaint caused revisiting of our thinking … In the eyes of the law this individual is entitled to use the bathroom that she identifies with.” Women on campus have complained about Braly using the female restrooms.Braly is anatomically male. He is also 36 years old, and has been married twice, and has a biological daughter with his second ex-wife. The DOJ has refused to release the letter in question.....'
One Mediator, Jesus| 5.24.12 @ 5:06PM
"Yeah, this CATHOLIC TERRORISM excrement"
Yeah, but it was worse than excrement. It was the execution of millions of Christians, for SIX CENTURIES.
And the cult still teaches the same heretical things that LED them to perform the biggest holocaust EVER.
It's only history, that's all. What's that saying about denying the past???
The commenter above me mentioned that the Haughty Religionists reject capital punishment.
I think my comment was QUITE apropos.
I spoke the truth.
mzk1| 5.24.12 @ 5:44PM
The early protestants were no better.
Jack in Wi.| 5.24.12 @ 6:37PM
The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ who is still it's head, with the Pope, as his earthly general manager. From the Catholic Church comes The Holy Bible, Sacred Tradition, mass charity to the poor and sick. It has also given the world the University, the Hospital, the Just War doctrine in a quest for peace on earth. The Church has put forth great theology, philosophy, art, architecture, music and literature. It is still the largest private education and healthcare provider in the world.
Numerous Heresy's, Rabbinical Talmudic Judasim, Islam, 35,000 squabbling Protestant sects, the French Revolution, Atheism, Socialism Communism, National Socialism, and the new Neopaganism have all been founded to replace and destroy the Church. It has suffered many millions of marytrs and thousands of persecutions. Yet it still as God's Light unto the world.
One Mediator, Jesus| 5.24.12 @ 6:55PM
"The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ". That's funny, I didn't know that Jesus Christ would actually command His own brethren to Murder each other!
And, Jesus Christ FOUNDED Christianity~ meaning those who are actually born of His Spirit, by His Grace, through Faith.
He didn't found an Apostate Religion that teaches that Mary was the Mother of God, and was born without Sin and therefore able to gorgive our sins. That is sickening.
And He didn't found an Apostate Religion with scoundrels who teach that they are His "Vicars" on Earth, who get to carry out these false and abominable teachings with stealth, and even with Murder for SIX centuries. and they have still never repented of the vile teachings to this day.
Jesus wanted no church hierarchy, no man to be "Vicar" of Himself, as He has told us in His Word that He is the Head of His church, and He is the ONE Mediator between God and Man.
You are an obvious product of its teachings, as are most who are in agreement with this false Religion.
You have been taught that Bible believing Christians are heretics, as these liars from of old have taught.
Babylon the Great will fall soon enough. And you will go with her.
Mickey| 5.24.12 @ 9:12PM
OMJ, Explain this:
"Vlady| 5.23.12 @ 2:28PM
Mullah Margie Omar is back, masquerading at One Mediator, Jesus!
Reply to this
One Mediator, Jesus| 5.24.12 @ 1:03AM
Vlady, tell that to Clint/Tim*, then get back to me.
Everyone knows it's me, I'm not hiding.
Now, aren't you a Jew who denies that Jesus Christ is Lord?
He is, you know~ and YOU are in danger of Hellfire."
You say Jews go to hell because they don't believe whatever you believe.
Jack in Wi.| 5.24.12 @ 9:15PM
Read the Bible and the Book of Acts Margie. Peter is the obvious leader of the Apostles. He was the first to go out to the gentiles. All the early Church fathers within the lifetime of the Apotles saw the apostolic nature of sucession of the Church. As one leader died or was marytered someone else took his place. Jesus founded the Church. The Church under His authority gave us the Bible and so much more. Do you really think that all those people who aren't Jevhovah's Witnesses like yourself are all going to hell. Margie like most Protestants seems to be her own Pope. Of course the Jehovah's witnesses aren't even Christian, much like the Mormons or Muslims.
There would be no Protestant churches, without the Catholic Church. It is laugable watching 35,000 protestant sects all squabling about the Bible which comes from God under the authority and authorship of the Catholic Church. Every letter of Paul and every Gospel was aproved by a council of the Church and the Pope. It wasn't done until 4 centuries after the Church's founding. Oh by the way Margie. the first 50 copies of the Bible were paid for by the Roman Emperor, It was a huge expense.
Vern Crisler | 5.25.12 @ 2:03AM
Dream on, Jack....
Joe Callan| 5.26.12 @ 1:34PM
Let's add one more rather important item about the Roman Catholic church that in my view
is as important as the religious dogma arguments. The Church kept Western Civilization going through the Dark Ages, the Medieval Era and brought about the Reformation and the education system the led to the Scientific method and the development of real technology, So in a sense, we wouldn't be having these discussions online, using computers without the Church.
Rich D| 5.24.12 @ 11:11PM
Easy, Jack. You can't support the 35,000 number. And ALL Christians are a light to the world.
Jack in Wi.| 5.24.12 @ 11:35PM
I have read it's between 30,000 and 35,000 sectrs. Of course some of them aren't really Christian like Jim Jones cult, the Mormons or the Worldwide Church of God. There are a number of different Mormon sects as well. Every independent bible Church is it's own religion. None of them have anything like a common theology. It is all a tower of babble.
RCV| 5.24.12 @ 8:03PM
Yes, and the English Monarch Henry VIII murdered several of his wives and divorced those he let live. But that doesn't disqualify Queen Elizabeth from speaking out against murder or divorce.
This is the 21st century, Margie. The Catholic Church isn't persecuting heretical anabaptists anymore; the US isn't holding millions in slavery; the good citizens of Salem aren't burning witches anymore, and the Japanese Army isn't raping Chinese civilians in Nanking.
You're trying to cast yourself in a medeival period piece movie as a brave religious dissident bravely fighting for her freedom, but nobody's buying it. This is 21st century America. You, margie, are free to not believe in the Trinity, not believe that Jesus is one with the Father, believe that every single syllable in the Bible is painstakingly accurate and written by God Himself. Nobody cares, really, least of all Pope Benedict in Rome.
One Mediator, Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 12:41AM
If you don't care then why do you always show up to argue with the Word of God?
Say, how's that belief that Homosexuality isn't Sin going for you?
And that belief that the words of Paul aren't to be taken as God's Truth even though God DID appoint him to be an Apostle and to write His Truth?
Oh, that's right! It was Paul who emphasized morality in his writings, and taught us to shun immorality, and that doesn't sit well with you.
And how's that worship of Mary and the Pope Idolatry thing going for you?
Unbelievers (in the true Gospel of Jesus Christ) like you are certainly "free" to reject His Gospel, and to mock and deride Christians, but God has a special place for you, on His Left, with the goats.
RCV| 5.25.12 @ 11:39AM
I'm arguing with you, Margie, not God. You often seem to confuse the two. You continue to spout lies about me "worshipping the Pope" despite my rejection of the Catholic Church over Papal Infalliblity. And your pathological hatred of the Mother of Jesus is just sick. You're like a little girl, mad at God because He chose Mary, not you; so you transfer that hatred to her. Jealousy and envy are not admirable qualities.
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 12:50PM
RCV,
No, you argue with the Word of God, and call Him a liar by not agreeing with Him.
I'm not confused at all, Reprobate liar.
May God have mercy on your sick, perverted, lying soul.
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 12:54PM
The deceitful one says:
"You continue to spout lies about me "worshipping the Pope" despite my rejection of the Catholic Church over Papal Infalliblity."
You call him, "Holy Father". You are the liar, kiddo.
I hope you repent of your lying before it's too late.
"For there is one God, and there is one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony to which was borne at the proper time." 1 Tim. 2:5 & 6.
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 1:00PM
The deceitful one says,
"And your pathological hatred of the Mother of Jesus is just sick".
Because I speak according to the Word of God and have said and still agree with God, that Mary is not the Mother of God, this liar states that I must hate Mary.
A very lame attempt by a studied Leftist Obama backing lawyer!
Notice how he changes the wording in order to try and deceive!
Catholicism holds to the teaching that Mary is the Mother of God, that is what they say. They do not say she was simply the Mother of the physical Christ, as they try and present the abomination that she was born sinless and therefore co-redemptrix with Christ.
The Devil truly is in the details.
ALL have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God, as it is written. Rom. 3:23.
And there is ONE MEDIATOR between God and Man, the Man Christ Jesus. 1 Tim. 2:5.
That's my motto, and I'm sticking to it.
And for someone who says he rejects Catholicism, he sure does a good job of trying to defend it.
Vern Crisler | 5.25.12 @ 2:05AM
There were no witch burnings at Salem, BTW. Some women were hanged, though, about 19. Something like the McMartin pre-school sex abuse hysteria.
RCV| 5.25.12 @ 11:33AM
You're correct, Vern.
Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 5.25.12 @ 12:18PM
I don't concede it is correct I am a sanctimonious and hypocritcal idiot on pontificating about 21st century cessations of outdated murders and divorces and persecutions and witch hunts and slavery and rape of human beings, at least, AFTER they're born when today another 3,836 innocent and defenseless Americans are slaughtered yet not memorialized as the total innocent and defenseless Americans slaughtered yet not memorialized, at least AFTER now, and not outdatedly, exceed 55 million matters.
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 1:02PM
What? You mean RCV, the Religious defender of the Religion he claims not to follow is pro-abortion?
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 1:03PM
Vernie Crisler, another Mr. know-it-all anti-Christian.
Mickey| 5.25.12 @ 1:25PM
Margie/OMG
Explain why you said Jews go to hell.
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 1:47PM
Legion Troll:
I didn't. I said anyone who rejects Jesus as the Son of God is in danger of Hellfire. I am in agreement with Jesus, the One Mediator between God and Man.
Apparently, you have a problem with Him.
Jesus says who goes where. And if you want to continue presenting the same falsehood in every thread, so be it.
The Word of God says who goes where:
"For God so loved the world that he gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal Life.
For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
He who believes in Him is not condemned; he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the Name of the only Son of God." Jn. 3:16-18.
Do you care where you end up? Do you care where your Jewish friends end up? How about your Muslim friends or your Catholic friends or your Mormon friends?
Do you reject the true Gospel of Jesus Christ? You must answer to God for rejecting His Son, for it is Him that you have your rebellion against.
Mickey| 5.25.12 @ 3:43PM
Your'e a raving lunatic.
I have many friends, doubt you have any.
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 4:54PM
And you are a lying fool:
"For the Word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the Power of God." 1 Cor. 1:18.
old white guy| 5.25.12 @ 5:58AM
liberalism did not die it has morphed into full blown communism. the fight by the left will never abate until they are physically destroyed. the desire to control one's fellow man is historic and genetic. even if the current crop of communists were destroyed i believe that man will continue to enslave their fellow man. the u.s. has been an exception for awhile but that too is ending.
Alan Brooks| 5.24.12 @ 4:51PM
"I am more tolerant of sexual diversity. I have flipped and oppose capital punishment. I am open to reforming the criminal justice system to treat nonviolent crime differently from violent crimes"
You could pass for Bill Clinton.
Helen| 5.25.12 @ 12:24AM
Keith Olbermann has definitely lost his
Marbles!!!
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 5.24.12 @ 6:33AM
The base of the liberal establishment has always been the newspapers and they are dying.
The managers/owners appear oblivious to the fact that the public is deserting them in droves because the news print media is peddling a defective product, i.e., a lie or series of lies.
Why would anyone pay the old line print media money so they could receive nothing but propaganda?
Apparently the public isn't as dumb as the owners/management class believe and the numbers tell the story.
Profits are down significantly throughout the print media universe.
If you want proof liberalism is dying there it is, the consumer market has rejected it.
TLP| 5.24.12 @ 7:14AM
Why would these Outlets talk to you? You're not on any of the George Soros/Media Matters SCRIPTS that are sent out to "The Main Stream Media".
Everybody knows that you stand in the way of every Main Stream Idea that our Young, Brave, and Charasmatic President, has.
You don't believe in the sanctity of Marraige between two Men, or two Women, or between Siblings, or a Parent and their Child (Which is the inevitable conclusion of this slippery slope.)
You don't believe in Beastiality in the Military, like this Main Stream Administration does.
You're not for Sex Education, Masturbation Studies, Anal Insertion Studies, or classes on The Joys of Gay Sex with an Adult, in Elementary School.
ADMIT IT!
Look at you. You're White, and you're old, and most likely a Jew. You probably don't approve of the Muslim Brotherhood manning sensitive positions at Homeland Security, the TSA, the FBI, or the DOD.
You don't believe in the MARXIST way, do you? You don't believe in Robin Hood, or Chairman Mao.
Guys like YOU wanna Drill for Oil, Drill for Gas, Mine for Coal, and build Pipelines from Friendly Sllies right on our Northern Border, to bring in a Stable and Secure Flow of Oil And Natural Gas.
You WANT Americans to have the "Right" to Arm themselves. You WANT people to be able to Arm themselves, against the potential threat of an Illegitimate, HOSTILE, Central Government. That's why you wanna keep bringing the best Attorney General this country has ever had - Eric Holder - before Congressional Hearings to "Answer" ( as YOU put it) for the "Crime" (as YOU put it) of Legally, and Justifiably, supplying Thousands of High Powered Automatic Weapons to the Mexican Drug Cartels, so that, in the Inevitable Orgy of Death, and SLAUGHTER of innocent Mexican Families, the ignorant among us, could see the Folly of their ways, and embrace the Wisdom of The Leftist Regimes of the Ages, whereby the people are first DISARMED, before they are Herded in to the Camps, either literally or figuratively. It doesn't matter. The Figuative always leads to the Literal, in time, anyway.
Go back to your stupid life. Go back to your Monogamy Relationship, your Job, your Love of God and Country. Mom, Apple Pie, a Mom AND a Dad in the House, and Heterosexual Scout Masters. You like the Muderous Military Industrial Complex, the Fascist Pledge of Allegiance, and the Slave Holding White Men who stole this Country from the Red Man, and then RAPED the Land.
Guess what? This is 2012, and we do things differently, now. We have a young, clean, articulate President, with no Negro Dialect, in Office now. And he doesn't believe in ANY of that old time Bigotted, and Homophobic Garbage that you do. He's giving Power to the People, once more. We will fill the streets of your Cities, and we will set them ablaze, in the Righteous Indignation of the Oppressed Masses. We will TAKE what we need. What we DESERVE. And when this Country lies in a Smoldering Heap and Ashes. We will have achieved FAIRNESS FOR ALL, at last.
What was the question, again?
Oh, yeah. Why aren't you getting invited to the Main Stream Shows?
Have you tried wearing a Dress out in public?
R Martin| 5.24.12 @ 8:26AM
To attract msm attention Mr. Tyrrell need not reveal any sensitive personal proclivities. He should simply re-title his book "The Death of Liberalism, Except in the Black Community."
"Serried"--learned a new word.
play nice| 5.24.12 @ 12:31PM
the next book -
"The Death of the Black Community, Except in Liberalism."
Rhoetus| 5.24.12 @ 2:14PM
When the last newspaper quits, how will I line my bird's cage?
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 1:04PM
You could always line it with the newly converted to Liberalism Emmett Tyrell's writings.
Darin| 5.24.12 @ 6:44AM
Be careful making such a statement. Liberals likely subscribe to this mindset:
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 7:53AM
I believe at the conclusion of his recitation of this poem in "Back to School", didn't Rodney Dangerfield announce "I feel like I just gave birth-to an accountant!"?
R Martin| 5.24.12 @ 8:47AM
You are indeed a man of breadth and learning. A Wilmington Friends graduate, no doubt.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 10:50AM
And I pride myself on my "breadth and learning." I'm also talented. You ought to hear me play a twelve string.
Rage, rage against the dying of the Right.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 11:15AM
Clearly, someone believes that plagiarism is the most sincere form of flattery, as they are false flag posting. I graduated from a rival school of Friends, down the hill a bit and in the city limit.
R Martin| 5.24.12 @ 11:23AM
Sallies, eh? Also a fine school.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 11:26AM
I am not proud, though, that Bill Press is also an alumnus.
DRed| 5.24.12 @ 12:57PM
If you don't have a satiric amanuensis it means nobody cares about what you write. Take a bow, Albert.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 1:32PM
I would prefer, though, if someone else wishes to appropriate my nom de cyber, that they be a better Albert Constantine, Jr., and not a cheap imitation. I am working on improving the quality of their posts, to limit the damage to the AC Jr. brand.
Appleby| 5.24.12 @ 6:49AM
If only liberalism WERE dead. America is just as filled with people who scream that the government is NOT broke, that the credit cards are NOT maxed out, and that the gravy train has NOT ground to a halt, as Greece is. What does appear to be dead, though, is discourse. It's all about screaming and name-calling these days.
The whole of North America needs a nap.
Purp| 5.24.12 @ 8:33AM
If the government is broke, and I don't agree with that, "Blame Yo'self". Until your side understands that a reasonable tax revenue tax base is needed for the functioning of the government and taxes are raised to a reasonable level, you are as much the problem as anyone. Moreover, taking on the role of World Policeman when you don't have the funds is another one of your own doing on the right. Correct those 2, meet the D's in the middle, and get this taken care of.
Comparing the U.S. to Greece is just stupid. The Greek economy is tiny by comparison and isn't a reserve currency. Austerity doesn't work, growth does.
squalis| 5.24.12 @ 8:59AM
We are over 16 trillion in debt, and growing. And, of course, there is the ticking time bomb of social security and medicare payments, not to mention the economic mess that will be Obamacare if upheld. So, what would you consider to be the "reasonable level" that taxes should be raised to?
Purp| 5.24.12 @ 9:13AM
The 1950's level of taxation. You have something against the 1950's?
John Navratil| 5.24.12 @ 12:17PM
See http://www.taxpolicycenter.org.....Docid=205. You will find that tax revenues as a percent of GDP are about the same.
The problem is the deficit which did not exist in the 50's as we were paying down the debt of WWII.
What you are trying to do is raise the amount of government spending, aren't you?
Jefferson| 5.24.12 @ 4:56PM
Go ask Reagan and the Bush Twins about the debt. Without them we'd have almost no debt. Conservatives talk fiscal conservative, but they are anything but... when in power they are drunk with the giveaways to their cronies. If you're honest about it, you would agree.
John Navratil| 5.24.12 @ 5:47PM
Jefferson,
If you are honest, you will notice that the only time we have run surpluses (think the Clinton administration), the Republicans held the house. That is, until the Bush 43 administration - a period the conservatives decry and which gave rise to the term RINO. Prior to 1994, the House, from which budgets originate was held for forty years by the Democrats.
Reagan put a balanced budget on the table every year for Tip O'Neill to declare dead on arrival. He agreed to $3 in cuts for $1 in taxes, got the taxes but never got the cuts. Bush 41 was snookered by the deal cooked by Dick Darman who was convinced that deficits could not be tamed without tax increases. Sound familiar? Bush 41 got the taxes, but not the cuts.
Look at the "Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974". This is the one which not only demanded a budget from Congress and the Senate every year, but also demanded that if the monies were appropriated, they must be spent. This was in response to Nixon who refused to spend money like Congress wanted - he just never got around to signing the checks, so to speak. That act marks the point in time when deficit spending, which has been running about 1/2 percent per year, began its inexorable march to today's madness.
In 1996, Pelosi took the house and spending - already out of control - went bat-sh*t crazy. It's no wonder the Senate will NOT produce a budget. The continuing resolutions permit, after a fashion, spending as usual.
2010 was a tidal event. We will see if the tide still rises in November.
Alej| 5.24.12 @ 2:28PM
Not at all, especially socially.
victor| 5.25.12 @ 1:26AM
PurpleGoy| 5.24.12 @ 9:13AM
"The 1950's level of taxation. You have something against the 1950's?"
PurpleGay, as with almost all liberals, never learns from history.
At 90% with all of the attendant deductions and exemptions, the top 1% accounted for barely 15% of the Federal Tax Dollar.
When Ronaldus Magnus lowered the tax rates and reduced the deductions and exemptions, the amount went to 30%.
And when GW introduced his tax rate cuts, the take went to nearly 40% where it remains to this day at 38-39%.
At 15% in 1955 the rest of us paid the balance of 85%.
In 1985 at 30% the balance was 70%.
And now at 39% the balance is 61% for the rest of us 99% that pay income taxes.
Raising the rate back to 90% would mean that WE and YOU would have to pay 50% more on average.
Are you ready to do that? I certainly pay enough in taxes and don't believe that we have insufficient levels of government. You obviously want more.
We know that you liberals always talk about paying more taxes in the abstract, but you never send in more money voluntarily. It always has to be at the point of a levy from the IRS.
There is never enough Government for you fools, eh?
Yes, let's go back to the 50's, shall we?
The average middle class family paid about 4 or 5% in income taxes.
And a concomitant level of government.
Now we cannot swing a dead cat without getting entangled in red tape, can we?
The Bard was Right, "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder".
Tax More, Get Less!
or
More Government, Less Freedom!
Mike 3/505| 5.24.12 @ 9:02AM
Purp,
You have it backwards....You should have said, until the economy supports increased revenues, then limit spending to the revenues that you have now. It's called staying on a budget. There's a parallel to this....Keep the government out of stuff that is not enumerated in the US Constitution. There is no, repeat no place in the US Constitution that says the federal government has any role in a "social safety net."
Louis Jenkins| 5.24.12 @ 9:10AM
Exactly right Mr. Mike 3/505. There are many places that the US Constitution, ie the government, has no business.
Clint| 5.24.12 @ 9:26AM
Dr.Ron Paul,
“When the federal government spends more each year than it collects in tax revenues, it has three choices: It can raise taxes, print money, or borrow money. While these actions may benefit politicians, all three options are bad for average Americans.”
Purp| 5.24.12 @ 9:16AM
Nor as World Policeman nor the Bedroom Police - you see, it is on both sides. But equality for all is a bedrock foundation of our country.
Both sides need to work together, not against each other. We aren't in a damn football game - winners are losers in this game too. It's the country at stake, not who wins.
Drunken Sailor| 5.24.12 @ 9:23AM
"But equal opportunity for all is a bedrock foundation of our country" not equality regardless of your personal contribution.
BIG difference.
Purp| 5.24.12 @ 10:57AM
I never said anything about equal outcomes (communism) - but everyone deserves a fair shot at their own American Dream (American exceptionalism).
It is not a penalty to those who have become wealthy to pay more in taxes-it is give back to the society that gave them the opportunity to become wealthy. Especially now, when a lot of the suffering today resulted from policies skewed toward the wealthy that has blown up in GW Bush's face and therefore ours. This is a temporary situation - even the Great Depression ended eventually.
And, yes, that is a BIG difference.
Von Mises Jr| 5.24.12 @ 11:04AM
Perp, American Exceptionalism to trolls is to be exceptionally ignorant.
Purp| 5.24.12 @ 11:51AM
you shouldn't describe yourself that way. Troll is way too good a term to describe you.
Von Mises Jr| 5.24.12 @ 12:01PM
Like Brokaw and Rose said about Obama, we ask about you perp: "We don't really know what he reads?"
Let's get a quick overview of your trollish studies or admit you are ignorant.
Rollando| 5.24.12 @ 5:54PM
"you shouldn't describe yourself that way. Troll is way too good a term to describe you."
Quotations from Chairman Prurp, Chairman of the Trolls and the Sycophant to the Great Imposter.
victor| 5.25.12 @ 3:13AM
Purpetrator:
"Especially now, when a lot of the suffering today resulted from policies skewed toward the wealthy that has blown up in GW Bush's face"
GW's policies gave us near perfect employment at 5.3% over the course of his administration, even with the disastrous two years of Reid and Pelosi:
http://scottstanzel.com/wp-con.....rcent1.jpg
From 2009-2011 the fun really began:
http://www.sodahead.com/fun/gr.....i_reid.jpg
billg| 5.28.12 @ 12:27AM
Purp,
Since the Great Depression didn't end until WWII, I hope you aren't calling for another war are you? Heh?
Also, you blooming idiot, did you read Victor's post above? Obviously not, the top 1% (you know, the wealthy) had their income tax rates reduced by 11% (39.6 to 35%) while the low and middleclaes rates were reduced by 1/3 or 33% (15 to 10%) by the Evil Bush.
In 1980 when Carter was still President, the top income tax rate was 70% and the top 1% paid around 17% of income tax collections. Now at 35% 30 years later the top 1% of income earners pay 38-40% of income tax collections.
THE WEALTHY ARE PAYING MORE INCOME TAXES YOU FOOL! IF YOU RAISE INCOME TAX RATES TOO HIGH THEY WILL SEEK OTHER WAYS OF MAKING OR INVESTING THEIR MONEY THEREBY REDUCING TAX COLLECTIONS FOR THE BIG GOVERNMENT YOU SUPPOSEDLY CHERISH.
Clint| 5.24.12 @ 9:30AM
Dr.Ron Paul,
“We need to understand the more government spends, the more freedom is lost...Instead of simply debating spending levels, we ought to be debating whether the departments, agencies, and programs funded by the budget should exist at all.”
John Navratil| 5.24.12 @ 12:19PM
Purp,
When you can't respond to the argument, change it, eh? The topic was debt.
Jefferson| 5.24.12 @ 4:57PM
If you read a bit more you would know that's what I was talking about, until the little snot Von M starts the name calling.
John Navratil| 5.24.12 @ 6:23PM
Jefferson,
I am confused. I reply to Purp and you reply to me.
You sounds as if you are replying, in the first person, as Purp. Are you the same person with two blog persona?
Von Mises Jr| 5.24.12 @ 9:38PM
One Soros Employee = 4 trolls.
Do you think Soros would pay full price for a Perp.
W| 5.24.12 @ 10:24PM
Purp a/k/a Jefferson a/k/a ______ is tired and worn out from a full day misrepresentation. He forgot to change the name. Jefferson Purp has not told us the name of his corporation. Maybe it is Jefferson Inc.
Brubaker| 5.24.12 @ 9:50AM
"Meet the D's in the middle" is simply Orwellian Newspeak for "do it our way." We've tried that, and we're now $16 trillion in debt. What's more, Democrats have absolutely no plan or intention to reduce that debt, EVER.
Democrats will continue spending until they've run out of other people's money -- and that time is fast approaching.
Purp| 5.24.12 @ 12:02PM
Just exactly WHEN did you "meet the D's in the middle? "
That is such bs. Tell it to Hannity.
If you're worried about debt - blame your own side. Between just Reagan and the Bush Twins, over 10 Trillion of that debt was added under their watch.
And remember, the 90's were the boom years, D was in charge, and created more jobs than any of the 3 R's and taxes went up, and debt went down. Soon as GW Bush came to town we went the other way and we are still trying to recover from his messes.
Now, you want to go back to cutting taxes for the wealthiest, raising the debt again (Romney or Ryan's plans add to the debt) while killing off Medicare, drastically hurting Social Security, and nearly abolishing Medicaid and other programs for the poor.
Get real, tell the truth - what your side says and what they will do are 2 completely different things. They did the same thing in 2010. They promised jobs, jobs, jobs, and promptly passed anti-abortion legislation and other social crap as soon as they were sworn in.
Until your side is ready to raise revenue in equal measure to spending cuts AND reign in the over bloated and expensive American Empire we can ill afford, you aren't talking reality, meeting in the middle or anything like it.
It really is that simple - tax, and cut and and simplify.
W| 5.24.12 @ 10:27PM
The boom in the 90's occurred after the Republican win in 1994 and Bubba was smart enough to compromise so he would win in 96.
Obama and the Dems controlled Congress for two years from 2008 to 2010, and they ruined the economy. The Dems control the Senate and Presidency and all the agencies and have ruined the economy.
Mike G| 5.24.12 @ 10:34AM
You're right, we do need a more reasonable tax base. Let's begin by having the 48% of households that pay no income tax, start paying. We can exempt the 15% or so that live in poverty, but everyone else should be paying something.
Purp| 5.24.12 @ 12:05PM
Agreed. Let's see what revenue it brings in. the only problem is that nearly 50% of the populace lives at, below or very near the poverty level.
But no Republican will ever go for it. That's is the showstopper. Let them propose it, I dare ya. They won't.
John Navratil| 5.24.12 @ 12:32PM
Purp,
As in PUR-e P-oppycock. The current poverty rate is approx. 15%. As you know, this is a politically defined term referring to the availability, or lack thereof, of good and services commonly available to the mainstream populace. Your 50% figure is claptrap on the face of it as that would define the median. The median income per family is over $50,000 per year, well more than double the poverty level of some $22,000 for the same family. Draw the curve which supports your claim. It would have no families earning between the poverty rate and the median.
Keep making it up, Purp.
Jack London| 5.24.12 @ 2:03PM
John, the median income level adjusted for inflation has barely moved since 1979 and the poorest 10% have also flatlined. The top 10% of course has done dramatically well. Do you think this is a success for 'trickle-down' economics?
John Navratil| 5.24.12 @ 2:52PM
Jack London,
Would you prefer to live in 1979? The top 10% as well and the bottom 20% are not static and change dramatically from year to year. Half of the top 10% in 1979 are dead.
Jack London| 5.24.12 @ 4:02PM
Well John, if you're talking about the turnover of people then that indeed is a truism and I can't dispute that, although I would point out that rich people live longer than poor people. If you're talking about social mobility, then you're way out of bounds, as we have one of the worst social mobility records of all developed nations.
As one of our late great historians, Howard Zinn, said: "Capitalism has always been a failure for the lower classes. It is now beginning to fail for the middle classes."
John Navratil| 5.24.12 @ 5:56PM
Jack London,
I sure can't agree with you on the social mobility. Examples are everywhere. We do not have a caste system.
Howard Zinn proposed that power rested with the people against the omni-present oppressor - the people with guns and power. If capitalism is failing for the middle classes, what do you propose? What power will you bring to right the wrongs you see? Does it involve more government?
Jefferson| 5.24.12 @ 5:01PM
You're right John, in poverty yes.
http://news.yahoo.com/census-u.....39972.html
And, you are right again about median income:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2.....-o22.shtml
But, median income is edging down toward poverty ... a very dangerous sign.
John Navratil| 5.24.12 @ 5:58PM
Jefferson,
I'll take poverty in the U.S. in 2012 over life in much of the world, developed or not. At least I have a hope that it can get better.
Jack London| 5.24.12 @ 12:25PM
What proportion of income do low paid people pay in other taxes, Mike?
Your Bridge Is Falling Down| 5.24.12 @ 2:45PM
Does it still count as other taxes paid when it is 'reimbursed' as tax credits, etc?
At what percentage of the population is it where taxes paid are not positive, and are not negative, but are at exactly zero? (Hint: 49.5% pay no taxes, so it less than 49.5. Hint hint: at least 40% pay negative taxes, i.e., receive from government more money than they pay in taxes, so it is between 40.0% and 49.5%. Use this start point to really impress your conservative foes!)
Jack London| 5.24.12 @ 4:05PM
So, what do you think would happen to the poorly paid if we cut their tax credits? At the other end, what do you think would happen to Romney and co if we increased their capital gains and carried interest taxes?
Your Bridge Is Falling Down| 5.24.12 @ 5:01PM
Why, the poor would have even less incentive to provide jobs for the rich - resulting in even less employment of the rich - all while resulting in even less overall revenues to cover the overall even more spending required to offset the less employed rich - all while resulting in even more incentive for the poor to move what jobs they do provide for the rich overseas to other countries - of course.
Jefferson| 5.24.12 @ 5:06PM
"Your argument is falling down" - the rich don't create jobs - they invest in companies to create wealth. Companies make wealth by having customers. How many millionaires does it take to buy 12 million Automobiles/year? Do they? How many houses can millionaires buy to increase housing starts?
Capital (=Money) is needed to buy the buildings and equipment to make things and provide services - but if there aren't tens of millions and tens of millions of customers to buy the things and services - you have wealthy individuals but no jobs ... kind of like what we have today, huh?
Weezy's Bitch| 5.24.12 @ 6:29PM
"Go ask Reagan and the Bush Twins about the debt. Without them we'd have almost no debt. ... If you're honest about it, you would agree."
Said the genius that would know the difference between father and son from twins if honest about it, that would know deficits become debt if honest about it, and that would know the combined deficits of all 20 years of Reagan and Bush the father and Bush the son is less than just the first 3 years of deficits of Obama if honest about it.
Von Mises Jr| 5.24.12 @ 9:44PM
What Perp? Did Jefferson read Von Mises or Hayek?
Von Mises Jr| 5.24.12 @ 11:02AM
Perp, which Von Mises or Hayek book did you read that in? Perhaps it was Milton Friedman or Art Laffer?
Or are you smarter than them and future generations will be quoting YOU. What books have you completed other than coloring books? Where are your scholarly references? You know the references you had to provide in High School. You did go to High School didn't you? Or perhaps there are no references required for a GED?
USSAlabama| 5.24.12 @ 11:29AM
Please send a letter to the editor at editor@spectator.com
We have to insist that they block the IP addresses of these trolls.
No one minds dissenting opinion. But there is a duty to membership and a forums' first fealty is to keep trolls off its' comments section.
I am writing and including a list of the most obvious trolls, who are nothing but.
We all need to let the editors here at Spectator know not only how bad it looks to have those in the comment section, but also how other sites do a better job controlling it and why it matters.
I used to recommend articles on this site with pride and would highly recommend reading of the comments
We had many more contributors to the comments and people always remarked how sophisticated and intelligent they were.
I don't recommend articles anymore.
Please include a list of the most offensive trolls when you write. Include other sites where you enjoy the comments more if not the articles and authors. Say why.
Write to ... editor@spectator.com
Every contributor to comments should do this as a responsibility to each other. Today.
Boar Hunter| 5.24.12 @ 12:37PM
USSAlabama;
My genuine thanks for your service. I appreciate your feelings on the problem, but sadly disagree with your solution.
Unfortunately I cannot offer one of my own given the venue. I believe the problem we face is simply inherent in any site that allows comments to be instantly posted without review by a moderator like American Thinker uses.
Despite the editors admonishment to the contrary, profane, bigoted, or grossly impolite comments are not routinely deleted. Any editing of what's written is self imposed and those angry liberals like Purp who are unfettered by intelligence or constrained by the truth, vomit out anything that comes to their mind.
People like Purp, who hijack reasonable discourse with their toxic stupidity are simply a cost we pay for freedom of speech. Unfortunately, otherwise intelligent people are trapped into trying to persuade the "Purp's" with facts and logic only to find themselves debating a lunatic.
Although you already know this, I would point out that Purp contributes as much logic and reason to public discourse as my neighbors barking dogs. Safe behind their fence, these little dogs yap unceasingly from the moment they are let out to the moment they are brought in.
Like Purp, their sole reason to exist is to destroy their neighbors tranquility. However, I would remind you that by your own admission, you know the names of all the undesirables and unlike the dogs which are audible, you do not have to read Purp's inane rantings. Do as a poster advised yesterday and simply ignore the ones you know better than to read.
Reading and responding to Purp is like kicking the fence of those little three pound dogs, since they know you can't touch em, they just bark louder.
Jack London| 5.24.12 @ 12:56PM
I take it you count your rapidly homophobic hate talk the other day as 'reasonable discourse' and in full keeping with posting guidelines. And you wonder why reasonable people like Purp take time to at least show the lurkers there is an alternative to the hate merchants who make us look to the outside world like a subnormal nation.
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 4:49PM
Try this for 'homophobic':
'.....Breitbart.comObama DOJ Forces University To Allow Biological Male Into Female Restrooms by Ben Shapiro 2 hours ago The Obama Department of Justice has reportedly ordered the University of Arkansas at Ft. Smith (UAFS) to allow a male student to use women’s bathrooms on campus. Campus Reform reports that a male student who calls himself “Jennifer Braly,” and is in the process of raising money to pay for his sex-reassignment surgery, filed a complaint with the Office of Civil Rights in the Department of Justice after the campus told him to use gender-neutral bathrooms rather than women’s restrooms. “Someone saw me using the women’s public restrooms and complained,” said Braly. “[O]ne problem to this is there are not unisex bathrooms in every building. Especially the two main buildings where most of my classes are, so I have to go to a completely different building to use the restroom.” The university had offered to turn more gender-specific bathrooms into gender-neutral bathrooms. Braly filed the complaint anyway.Mark Horn, vice president of university relations, said that the DOJ “basically made its expectations through the attorney and the decision was made to respond to that direction … [the] DOJ complaint caused revisiting of our thinking … In the eyes of the law this individual is entitled to use the bathroom that she identifies with.” Women on campus have complained about Braly using the female restrooms.Braly is anatomically male. He is also 36 years old, and has been married twice, and has a biological daughter with his second ex-wife. The DOJ has refused to release the letter in question.....'
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 1:06PM
Jackie London:
The truth is hate only to those who hate the truth.
Homosexuality is SIN, according to the Word of God.
Von Mises Jr| 5.24.12 @ 1:06PM
Boar Hunter, I agree completely. Perpetrator serves a purpose. Why talk about stupid, ignorant and greedy socialist when you can have one one display. He is OUR "USEFUL IDIOT."
But USSAlabama has a point. We should NOT ARGUE with Perp, DRed or Brooksie. They do not answer reasonable questions and neither should you answer theirs. Just challenge their sources, motives and INTELLIGENCE.
Their goal is to disrupt the conversation. Just mock them. They deserve no better.
Mickey| 5.25.12 @ 1:34PM
Add Margie/OMG to the list. Waste of time reading and replying to it.
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 1:49PM
Really, Troll? Why, because I speak God's Truth to your filthy lies?
Mickey| 5.25.12 @ 3:48PM
Because your'e a raving lunatic.
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 4:56PM
And you're an ass.
I think your posts should be removed.
You contribute absolutely nothing, except personal insults.
Imbecile.
Mickey| 5.25.12 @ 5:12PM
You deserve only insults.
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 5:45PM
And you deserve Hell.
But you're already there, just a matter of physical death.
Von Mises Jr| 5.24.12 @ 3:26PM
I suggest that we just proclaim "BEWARE TROLL"
Occam's Tool| 5.24.12 @ 8:25PM
I hope I'm not listed by you, Alabama. I love Alabama, the state, and you write nicely. I just can't stand the Paulbots.
Ted Seeber| 5.24.12 @ 12:31PM
Von Mises? Hayek? Milton Friedman? Might as well quote Karl Marx, they're all atheists and no self-respecting conservative should be listening to them for financial or any other kind of advice.
Purp| 5.24.12 @ 1:27PM
You can throw Ayn Rand in that atheist mix too. I don't totally agree they have no advice worth reflecting upon ... but taking their theories hook, line and sinker is definitely the wrong course.
The other day, even Paul Ryan repudiated Ayn Rand.
Dave Williams| 5.24.12 @ 3:06PM
Atheists, huh....you mean people who are actually GROUNDED IN REALITY? The horror...
One Mediator, Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 12:30AM
How do you know Reality exists? Can you prove it?
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 11:34AM
Moron, let me SPLAIN IT TO YA! You people with the constant need to pad governmental welfare with MORE TAXIATION are a joke. Do you understand that the private sector representative HP has just announced thhat it is laying off/terminating 29000 employees? Do you idiots understand that government never ever announces such employee reductions within government? Why, because in your demented world governmental employment is permanent [cradle-to-grave] and ALL AT TAXPAYERS EXPENSE, right? Keep on adding to the governmental employment rolls, since the taxpayer has to pay for same, right? 'PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE', right? Funny since the top 20% of income earners pay 90% of the taxes, while you indigents pay NOTHING. Pay more? GTH and stay there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shortcake| 5.24.12 @ 12:20PM
Many government workers have been laid off due to budget and tax cuts thanks to bush economy. Now if we could only get congress to pay or contribute to some of their benefits - like, say, the subsidized cafeteria, gym or free parking at the airports, that may help. Also, why r we paying $89,000 for George Bush's phone calls next year? Or Secret Service protection for Newt for a month longer than necessary? Funny, I never here much chatter over this type of looting, but feed a hungry child, and the crazies come out.
Boar Hunter| 5.24.12 @ 1:02PM
Dear shortcake;
Government workers were laid off due to the liberals (beginning with Clinton) tanking the housing market.
Spare me the "hungry child" tripe.
No one is starving the children. We are paying for everyones children. California feeds all the worlds children, we feed them twice a day at a school and if they or their illegal immigrant parents get hurt we treat them at the (once) finest medical facilities the tax payers money can buy.
"a one-parent family of three making $14,500 a year (minimum wage) has more disposable income than a family making $60,000 a year" Google it or use your gay dar to contact one of your fabulous boyfriends to do it for you.
Oh and Bush? Seriously your worried about Bush still? How about the wookie and her vacations at tax-payer expense? How about the commie from Kenya's golf trips?
Obama has spent more money than all of the previous presidents combined and you blame Bush?
We have not had a budget in how many years?
How many "Czars" has Ear leader appointed at what salary?
I wonder how much we pay for their phone bills?
Why don't you go decorate something or take a trip to the spa, it will ease your overwrought mind.
DRed| 5.24.12 @ 2:52PM
Obama has spent more money than all previous presidents combined? How did you get that? That's not even close to being true. Annualized, federal government spending has increased 1.4% a year during the Obama administration. That's the lowest annualized increase in federal spending in the last 60 years. Obviously, the Republican Congress has a large roll to play in that, but you can't say federal spending under Obama is growing rapidly-factually it's not.
D Is for Dumbass...| 5.24.12 @ 4:35PM
...R is for Retarded. D + R + e + d = Idiot liar.
The figures you cite from the liar Rex Nutting from MarketWatch will for the remainder of the election be a national joke.
The liar Rex Nutting from MarketWatch has counted the Obama stimulus and Obama Tarp spending in 2009 as Bush spending.
The liar Rex Nutting from MarketWatch has also counted the one time Obama stimulus and one time Obama Tarp spending in 2009 as permanent spending set by Bush the liar Rex Nutting uses it as a baseline for all spending - permanent not temporary one time - spent after the one time Obama spending to calculate the 60 year low spending increase under Obama.
The liar Jay Carney and the MSNBC liars including Ed Schultz and Rachel Maddow are already citing the liar Rex Nutting from MarketWatch which you the liar are idiotically using.
Obama is toast for reasons such as this.
Liberals falsely accuse republicans of a fake war on women that easily and quickly exposes an actual democrat war on women.
Liberals falsely accuse Romney of being mean to dogs that easily and quickly exposes Obama ate dog.
Liberals falsely accuse Romney of campaigning with PAC ads focusing on Obama's ties to Jeremiah Wright that easily and quickly exposes Romney nixed the idea that was only a PAC brainstorming session idea that was quickly nixed by the PAC itself - all while the liberal mainstream media focuses daily on Obama's ties to Wright for over a week essentially providing the nixed ads on behalf of republicans - for free.
Liberals falsely accuse republicans of failing to morally live by the golden rule regarding homosexuals that easily and quickly exposes the actual immoral failings of democrats on not just the golden rule but all biblical teachings.
Liberals falsely accuse republicans of ignoring the need for even more Dodd-Frank crippling financial regulations based on JP Morgan losses accountable only to JP Morgan stakeholders that easily and quickly exposes the crippling aspects of the Dodd-Frank financial regulations already on the books - all while easily and quickly exposing the government politicians are accountable to citizen taxpayers for double the losses of JP Morgan - each and every single day.
Liberals now falsely allege Obama spending increases are at 60 year lows that will be easily and quickly expose Obama is the all-time highest spender ever.
Liberalism is dead. Whether the nation survives the past and present and future effects caused by the dead liberal ideology is another matter.
DRed| 5.24.12 @ 5:00PM
The liar Rex Nutting from MarketWatch has counted the Obama stimulus and Obama Tarp spending in 2009 as Bush spending.
"If we attribute that $140 billion in stimulus to Obama and not to Bush, we find that spending under Obama grew by about $200 billion over four years, amounting to a 1.4% annualized increase."
Derp derp derp.
ps
TARP was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008.
D is for Dumbass...| 5.24.12 @ 6:06PM
... R is for Retarded. D + R + e + d = Idiot liar.
The words you the idiot liar posted will for the remainder of the election be an AmSpec joke.
"Annualized, federal government spending has increased 1.4% a year during the Obama administration. That's the lowest annualized increase in federal spending in the last 60 years."
Liberalism is dead. Obama is toast.
Even if Obama stimulus spent by Obama only cost taxpayers a paltry $140 billion instead of $862 billion.
Even if Tarp spent by Obama was not Tarp spent by Obama.
Even if Tarp never spent by Bush was not Tarp spent by Obama.
Even if the 2008 federal spending of $2.982544 trillion under Bush according to the official website of Obama was not the baseline for Obama federal spending after Bush.
Even if the 2009 federal spending of $3.517677 trillion under Obama according to the official website of Obama that included Obama stimulus and Tarp spent by Obama was not more than a 17.94% increase in federal spending than the baseline of the 2008 Bush federal spending of $2.982544 trillion.
Even if the 2010 federal spending of $3.456213 trillion under Obama according to the official website of Obama was not more than a 15.88% increase in federal spending than the baseline of the 2008 Bush federal spending of $2.982544 trillion.
Even if the 2011 federal spending of $3.603061 trillion under Obama according to the official website of Obama was not more than a 20.80% increase in federal spending than the baseline of the 2008 Bush federal spending of $2.982544 trillion.
Even if the 2012 federal spending of $3.795547 trillion under Obama according to the official website of Obama will not more than a 27.25% increase in federal spending than the baseline of the 2008 Bush federal spending of $2.982544 trillion.
17.94% + 15.88% + 20.80% + 25.75% = 1.4% annualized
Dumbass retarded idiot liar.
DRed| 5.24.12 @ 6:43PM
First why don't you tell me why you lied about Nutting attributing Obama's stimulus to Bush. Then I'll try to explain to you why we don't use the fiscal year that began in October, 2008, as a baseline for Obama's presidency.
D is for Dumbass...| 5.24.12 @ 7:10PM
...R is for Retarded. D + R + e + d = Idiot liar.
Dumbass retarded idiotic lying fallacies of dumbass retarded idiot liars to be addressed subject to dumbass retarded idiot liars providing the total cost of the Obama stimulus, the allocation into federal spending by year of the total cost of the Obama stimulus, the amount of unspent pending Obama stimulus, and the source or sources cited for the total cost of the Obama stimulus and the allocation into federal spending by year of the total cost of the Obama stimulus and amount of unspent pending Obama stimulus.
17.94% + 15.88% + 20.80% + 27.25% = 1.4% annualized
nathan| 5.25.12 @ 11:42AM
American Spectator: The above exchange tells you why this site sorely needs someone to moderate the comments. The sooner the better! Please.
daze of whine and poses| 5.25.12 @ 1:02PM
We liberals base our argument liberalism is not dead on emotional prattle. It's all we have. Conservatives here base their arguments on reason and experience. We liberals have to fight you conservatives to a draw with just emotional prattle. When you allow the point blank sarcastic insults, this just allows conservatives to get their points across effectively with reason and experience even our liberal emotional prattle can't defend against. We liberals take a beating and lose all effectiveness of our emotional prattle. Which is all we liberals have. Please stop allowing free speech to give you conservatives this unfair advantage. Principles like freedom of speech are just fine as principles, but only as theory. It's just not practical in real life. It's not faaaiir. We don't liiikke it. How would yooou liike it? How would yooou feeeeeel? Pleease pleeeease pleeeeeease stop it? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?
Boar Hunter| 5.24.12 @ 7:08PM
How nice of you to repeat liberal BS.
"(CNSNews.com) - The Obama administration passed another fiscal milestone this week, according to new data released by the Treasury Department. As of the close of business on Oct. 3, the total national debt was $14,837,099,271,196.71—up about $44.8 billion from Sept. 30.
That means that in the less-than-three-years Obama has been in office, the federal debt has increased by $4.212 trillion--more than the total national debt of about $4.1672 trillion accumulated by all 41 U.S. presidents from George Washington through George H.W. Bush combined."
The fact that you argue the point is illustrative of your willful ignorance.
DRed| 5.24.12 @ 7:15PM
First, you said that Obama had spend more than all previous presidents combined. In any event, George H.W. Bush was not the President who was in office before Obama. Therefore, your statement is wrong, no matter if you meant federal spending or the federal deficit. Here, look, I can use your own numbers to show you how wrong you are. Total National Debt-14 trillion. Debt increase under Obama-4 trillion dollars. 14 trillion minus 4 trillion is 10 trillion. 4 trillion is not larger than 10 trillion. You call me willfully ignorant?
DRed| 5.24.12 @ 7:15PM
And I meant spent, not spend.
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 4:53PM
I know what your SHORTAGE is and it ain't CAKE. The following is what this government PAYS FOR, fool and the TAXPAYERS of this country are forced to finance same:
'.....Breitbart.comObama DOJ Forces University To Allow Biological Male Into Female Restrooms by Ben Shapiro 2 hours ago The Obama Department of Justice has reportedly ordered the University of Arkansas at Ft. Smith (UAFS) to allow a male student to use women’s bathrooms on campus. Campus Reform reports that a male student who calls himself “Jennifer Braly,” and is in the process of raising money to pay for his sex-reassignment surgery, filed a complaint with the Office of Civil Rights in the Department of Justice after the campus told him to use gender-neutral bathrooms rather than women’s restrooms. “Someone saw me using the women’s public restrooms and complained,” said Braly. “[O]ne problem to this is there are not unisex bathrooms in every building. Especially the two main buildings where most of my classes are, so I have to go to a completely different building to use the restroom.” The university had offered to turn more gender-specific bathrooms into gender-neutral bathrooms. Braly filed the complaint anyway.Mark Horn, vice president of university relations, said that the DOJ “basically made its expectations through the attorney and the decision was made to respond to that direction … [the] DOJ complaint caused revisiting of our thinking … In the eyes of the law this individual is entitled to use the bathroom that she identifies with.” Women on campus have complained about Braly using the female restrooms.Braly is anatomically male. He is also 36 years old, and has been married twice, and has a biological daughter with his second ex-wife. The DOJ has refused to release the letter in question.....'
StanO| 5.24.12 @ 1:42PM
The only problem with your theory is why the government is broke. The government has had a reasonable and ever increasing (with just a couple of small drops) revenue stream since forever. In other words revenue hasn't changed (especially when averaged over a few years as you should do) spending has!
We have had or contributed to the role of the worlds policeman for a hundred years.
And this meme of austerity means stagnation and government spending equals "growth" has got to stop! Where is your historical precedent for that? Roosevelt-failed miserably, Japan - bubble economy, still a failure. You can maybe (ironically) argue Reagan and military spending, but he also cut taxes tremendously which ballooned revenues. Plus, military spending is steals the least from the greater economy because it's emphasis on manufacturing and research.
martin j smith| 5.24.12 @ 7:33AM
I think thanks to Obama the real nature of Politics in this country has been brought out more clearly than ever. The so called Democrat(not-ic ) Party
who are being run by Communist/Marxists tolerating an encouraging violence --the cowardly RINO--faction of the so called Republican Party and those who go under the Republican Banner who want to get to the truth and clean things up--the Conservatives. The "Liberals' which the author refers have morphed into their true nature--
Desire to topple our nation and create a new Communist/Government Controlled system. The RINOS have shown ready to make a deal with anyone as long as they hold their modest power enclaves and the MONEY>.But, the most MONEY hungry are actually the Marxists of all people.
The majority of Americans oppose Both Marists and Crony Capitalist RINOS. Liberalism is not the operative word. So it has not died. Its the ever
on going power struggle of Government versus the PEOPLE and it will never stop.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 8:02AM
I am not certain that I concur with Mr. Tyrrell’s conclusion that liberalism is dead. Like Jason Voorhees, Michael Myers, Freddy Krueger and other iconic villains from the horror/ slasher genre, they always find a way to rise again.
To continue with the cinematic theme, if liberalism were actually to die, it would most likely resemble the Predator at the end of the first film with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Recognizing that the jig was up, as it lay dying, the beast hit the button on the tac nuke, vaporizing all around it. Like Hitler in his bunker, the left will try to destroy everything with it.
SUBVET| 5.24.12 @ 10:34AM
AL.........My fear is once the boy knows the "jig" is up he will do as you say destroy everything. He has 2 months to complete it.
It may start as early as June when his health care is repealed.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 11:23AM
If the SCOTUS opinions start to break against him, that could begin the countdown.
By the way, the above remark and this are both certified as original Albert Constantine Jr. remarks. Don't be fooled by any cheap imitation.
Biggy D| 5.24.12 @ 1:04PM
Why do you trust Anthony Kennedy?
R Kaplan| 5.24.12 @ 8:57AM
Fine piece and accurate and brave to say how shabbily they (the liberal media) treat critics such as oneself. Note that, in this regard, they seem to be doing the same to Edw. Klein, whose book on the president, The Amateur, is getting no (overt) attention. It is indeed a bizarre, and disturbing, phenomenon in our society, this massive and self--reinforcing culture of intellectual and moral denial. We must deal with it, perhaps simply by ignoring it and concentrating on institutions and zones that are still facing reality, let the others go their way into oblivion. The hitch here is that we cannot just ignore them so long as they have political power and can determine, or at least markedly influence, the direction of American life, the place of America in the world, etc. We have fine institutions -- the (non-mainstream) media, some universities (still), much of our religious establishment (am I mistaken here?), the military (for the most part), and we have millions and millions of devoted American citizens ready to fight but over and over again let down by the elites (it is the wrong word) in Washington, who consistently go for their own short-term and purely personal advantages (which would be okay -- Madison recognized this was inevitable -- if checks and balances were functioning as designed). Bollocks; but we'll keep going, cheerfully and with faith.
Lullabys, Legends and Lies| 5.24.12 @ 9:03AM
R.E.T.: How are the sales of your book going? That's the true sign of success, not if ABC's Good Morning America has you on or not!! I got the audiobook version of it of I-Tunes, and it's very informative, and I agree with you, Liberalism is dead. When I get out on the road for one of my long trips, I pop in my audiobooks, and then start yelling at my dashboard, and your book had me yelling too (that's a good thing, by the way). Talking about Liberals always keeps me from falling asleep when I'm behind the wheel, and that's the only thing good I can say about them, seriously, I can't think of another good thing to say about them!!
Louis Jenkins| 5.24.12 @ 9:07AM
Neither do I believe that liberalism is dead, nor will it ever die. It hangs around like an old smell from last night's liver and onions. Yes, Conservatism is giving liberalism a run for its money these days, however, that old "scratch" is always speaking to those who would listen, those who say they are concerned about the poor, the ever growing defense budget, or those people who say just want to have employment and in the same token take government handouts. But they, the liberals, have that jewel of the Nile, the American broadcasting system under their thumb. Mr. Tyrrell, the best thing you may do is to keep on writing, and maybe, after a few more years, your words will catch on. Perhaps not, but maybe one day you will be remembered by our children as a man who spoke the truth, and rendered an honorable place on their bookshelf. That is, if we have a world were people may still read.
steve bennett| 5.24.12 @ 9:26AM
Liberalism is dead. Progressivism is very much alive.
Rhoetus| 5.24.12 @ 2:16PM
Liberalism = Progressive = Socialism = Communism
One Mediator, Jesus| 5.24.12 @ 4:35PM
And, Communism=Satanism.
Read the book, Marx & Satan by Rev. Richard Wurmbrand. But fair warning: you will never be the same.
Pecos Pete| 5.24.12 @ 9:41AM
Liberalism never dies, it simply morphs into another episode of stupid.
Cobalt| 5.24.12 @ 5:17PM
Speaking of another episode of stupid......
Ashley Judd: Obama "Has An Incredible Devotion To Our Constitution"
http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....ution.html
cowgirl| 5.24.12 @ 10:08AM
ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS, CNBC and most of the liberal media have not invited you to appear on their networks to discuss your new book "The Death of Liberalism". This is not a bad sign it is a good sign.
You are getting to them.
shortcake| 5.24.12 @ 12:46PM
Face it, M; they're just not into you.
BTW, if it weren't for liberals, u would be speaking with an english accent and there would be no USA. There would be kids working at midnight and girls not going to school or driving or fill in one million blanks you nazis would tell us what to do with our money, bodies, brains, kids and god knows what else and thinking we r stupid and lazy and don't want to work and only want government handouts and blah, blah, blah. Nope, we just don't like u and never will. You remind us every day why we r liberal, u r hypocrites, most of u never serve in the military and avoid the draft and most libs volunteer for the service, especially in war time (see chickenhawk hall of fame) and demean people like john kerry, al gore and other dems that volunteer for service during war time to say nothing of the fact that u lie about the president every day. So if mr. T would like cheese with his whine, perhaps he could look in the mirror. After all, it's about ratings and if it is one network, it may be them, but if it is all of the networks, it is probably you. Did I mention I retired at 55 thanks to Bill Clinton?
StanO| 5.24.12 @ 1:52PM
Spew and attitude is not an argument and does not create facts.
Slavery stopped - Republicans, KKK-Democrats
Conservatives today would be the only politicians even recognized by our founding fathers, government control is a Democrat ideology, who is telling us what our insurance must be, who created "hate speech" laws? And, you live in a dream world about the miltary, they are almost all conservative and Republican.
And Bill Clinton did nothing for (and to his credit against) the economy, he was one fiscal quarter away from not winning the election, Bush had one quarter of downturn and the press made it look like the Great Depression. Again, to his credit he worked with Congress, unlike our current President.
Drunken Sailor| 5.24.12 @ 4:14PM
A. Your full of shit
B. I did 20 years in the Navy.
C. Most service members are conservative, you obviously never served.
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 4:55PM
What did Monika give you a BJ also???????
halfbaked| 5.25.12 @ 9:56PM
fase et, hoo r u kiding, u whir boren wen bil klintin wuz prezehdente afture yer pairentz kunseeved u wahching da ay teem ahn tv.
Joe Callan| 5.26.12 @ 1:52PM
Dude, John Kerry's own men said he was a piece of crap as an officer, that tells me all I need to know about the "great" John Kerry.
Chuck in Northern Virginia| 5.24.12 @ 10:11AM
Much of what's wrong with the mainstream media lies in their lack of self-awareness and their unwillingness to consider that a different point of view than their own is not radical. They're absorbed with the same fantasy as the Left in general that believes "tolerance" means everyone must agree with them. They then go on to show they're not the least bit tolerant of anyone who doesn't see the world as they do. You think the government spends too much money? Then, you're a right wing nut. You're troubled by abortion and the President demanding that churches pay for it? You must be a Nazi. The Left and its willing allies in the media only have slander left in their arsenal to maintain their position. They created a need for alternative news sources, and bemoan that someone had the nerve to fill the void. We see the decline in all Liberal "news" sources because they cannot examine their own product and see how terrible it is. Tyrrell nails the Liberals, and they can't handle it. The Left can't stand a different point of view and neither can President Obama who demonizes his fellow Americans. By the way, buy the book.
bill carson| 5.24.12 @ 10:13AM
Ha! Liberalism dead? No way!
No one more than me wishes it were so. We'll all be fighting liberals until the day we die.
Jack London| 5.24.12 @ 10:15AM
Liberalism is an old fashioned word, so it's not surprising that no one is interested in this useless book written by a redundant commentator living in the past.
In case he hasn't noticed, it is the bunker conservatism of the diminishing, sad old white American male that is dying, as the world wakes up to the imperatives of a fairer, cooperative future.
Jive Bomber| 5.24.12 @ 11:27AM
Fleeing from the word "Liberalism" is a Liberal/Progressive/Socialist/Insert Name Here trick that's worn rather thin. Call it what you like though - they are all old-fashioned.
Regarding a "fairer, cooperative future":
Human nature has a big surprise waiting for you. Always has, always will.
shortcake| 5.24.12 @ 12:57PM
So u want Nazism, is that it? That went out in the forties, and fdr was president. The white hoods went bankrupt in the sixties, and lbj was president. bin Laden, Khadaffi, and Mubarak went out in the 2010's, and bho is president. You want to be in the fox hole with who?
StanO| 5.24.12 @ 1:57PM
Nazis, corporatist socialist, command economy. Most liberal btw, were fans of Mussolini before the war.
Those guys in the white hoods? Democrats. Here is the vote breakdown for the Civil Rights Amendment:
By party
The original House version:[15]
Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)
Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)
Cloture in the Senate:[16]
Democratic Party: 44-23 (66%–34%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)
The Senate version:[15]
Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%–31%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:[15]
Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%–37%)
Republican Party: 136-35 (80%–20%)
You might consider thinking and reading before you write.
Purp| 5.24.12 @ 2:31PM
That was back in the '60's ... the Republican and Democratic positions have reversed as they do from time to time.
The white hoods are Republicans today, extremists to be sure, but no where near a Democratic base member. If you doubt it, look at how the Ol' South votes today.
Calvin| 5.24.12 @ 3:39PM
The only thing that changes is what bad behavior the Democratic Party is endorcing this week and what racial or ethnic group it is trying to rev up for votes.
The old South practices slavery, Jim Crowe, KKK then they are Democrats. The Old South gives those bad behaviors up, then they become Republicans. I see your point purp. You want to murder your babies, mutilate your genetalia, marry your sister, have 30 kids with no way of supportying them, then the Democratic Party is for you.
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 5:04PM
Purp, here's some WHITEHOODISM for your ignorant ars:
'.....Breitbart.comObama DOJ Forces University To Allow Biological Male Into Female Restrooms by Ben Shapiro 2 hours ago The Obama Department of Justice has reportedly ordered the University of Arkansas at Ft. Smith (UAFS) to allow a male student to use women’s bathrooms on campus. Campus Reform reports that a male student who calls himself “Jennifer Braly,” and is in the process of raising money to pay for his sex-reassignment surgery, filed a complaint with the Office of Civil Rights in the Department of Justice after the campus told him to use gender-neutral bathrooms rather than women’s restrooms. “Someone saw me using the women’s public restrooms and complained,” said Braly. “[O]ne problem to this is there are not unisex bathrooms in every building. Especially the two main buildings where most of my classes are, so I have to go to a completely different building to use the restroom.” The university had offered to turn more gender-specific bathrooms into gender-neutral bathrooms. Braly filed the complaint anyway.Mark Horn, vice president of university relations, said that the DOJ “basically made its expectations through the attorney and the decision was made to respond to that direction … [the] DOJ complaint caused revisiting of our thinking … In the eyes of the law this individual is entitled to use the bathroom that she identifies with.” Women on campus have complained about Braly using the female restrooms.Braly is anatomically male. He is also 36 years old, and has been married twice, and has a biological daughter with his second ex-wife. The DOJ has refused to release the letter in question.....'
John Navratil| 5.24.12 @ 6:17PM
Purp,
How many times have the Republicans and Democrats reversed themselves in the 150 years since Lincoln?
In the 60's the Republican party was busy making itself unattractive to the John Bircher's and a home for the Reagan Democrats fleeing the Progressive takeover of the Democrats? I can't remember Robert Byrd, J. William Fulbright, or Bull Conner registering as Republicans. Please tell me more.
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 11:39AM
JL, I and many others here are interested in his book and its truth. What we're not interested in is the BS that you liberal/progressive/domestic terrorist PIGS put forth constantly here; so why don't you and other like you do the right thing and simple go blog on the NYT, CBS, NBC, SFC,WaPa etc sites instead of this one????????????
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 11:56AM
Say ByeBye!!!!
Drunken Sailor| 5.24.12 @ 12:03PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Thanks that made my day.
Anthony| 5.24.12 @ 10:15AM
Hmmm, a bit of stream of consciousness a la Ben Stein this morning, eh Emmett?
I'm sure the MSM will take immediate note of your "evolution" on certain issues, such that you might now have demonstrated that you have "earned the right" to be invited to hawk your book on their abysmal networks.
For someone who preaches that liberalism is dead, you sure are doing your best John McCain imitation to curry favor with these same whores.
David Kapell| 5.24.12 @ 10:23AM
If you replace "mainstream" with "fact based" in this article then maybe you will understand why CBS, NBC and the like do not welcome you Mr. Tyrrell. They are more fact-based NEWS organizations interested in informing the public (so maybe they can vote intelligently in the next election) whereas, Hannity, Fox, Limbaugh and the like are exclusively fear-based INFOTAINMENT organizations specializing in misdisinformation and spin designed to scare up votes for their power crazed cadre of rightwing extremists running for office. "No one thinks it merits even a spitball" is pretty much a reasonable response to such garbage. It's like seeing a pile of dogpoop on the sidewalk - it's nothing you need, nothing you want, it smells very bad, it's worthless....so you walk around it, ignore it and leave it where it is and get on with your REAL life. Conservatives seem to be living in a snow-globe fantasy world of pure utiopian ideology/spin/misinformation/fact-aversion/science denial/bigotry while liberals are stuck with trying to solve the real world problems all by themselves.....with NO help from Republicants.
steve bennett| 5.24.12 @ 10:27AM
Mind boggling stupidity!
Jack London| 5.24.12 @ 11:02AM
Excellent David - you've nailed it much better than I did.
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 11:55AM
Batman & Robin.....Barney &Rachel;!!!!!!!
From the Desk of Media Matters| 5.24.12 @ 2:58PM
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Jeff1000| 5.24.12 @ 11:04AM
Back away from the Kool-Aid chief, it's clearly destroying your mind. You're not even in the ballpark of reality. You need help.
Former Liberal| 5.24.12 @ 11:18AM
They present only the facts that fit their template and that reaffirm their prejudices. That's why they will even make things up, like Dan Rather did when he attacked Bush's military service, and like NBC has again and again in its coverage and apologies related to the Trayvon Martin case. The Left lies so much that it cannot imagine there is such a thing as the truth.
shortcake| 5.24.12 @ 12:59PM
You know Dan Rather was telling the truth.
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 5:09PM
He [nor his former CBS employer] hasn't told the truth since the AH came out of the womb!!!!!!!
Jive Bomber| 5.24.12 @ 11:32AM
David Kapell: Why did these networks so worthy of your acclaim host a man who wrote a book titled "The Death of Conservatism"? Was it because this book was sweeping America by storm?
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 11:53AM
DK, why don't you go take a PURP/JACK LONDON/DK and wipe your rear with the NYT and therefore disappear? Your MSM biased rags have plenty of available blog sites for idiot like yourself. You have no friends here!!!!!!!!
Goldwaterite| 5.24.12 @ 1:15PM
Apparently, Saul Alinsky lives...
Jefferson| 5.24.12 @ 4:32PM
You are exactly right. The trouble with the non-fact based right wing is that their ideology is simply belief-based. Once they believe it, they are impervious to the truth.
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 5:10PM
The problem with you JEFFERSONS is that you're all ..........STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 1:07PM
But they're movin' on up!
Petronius| 5.24.12 @ 11:21AM
Liberals are stuck solving the problems? Ludicrous. Liberals cause the problem, which is a once proud productive nation reduced to serfdom by predators, perverts, parasites, and idiots, whom they defend against honest citizens. Liberalism is cultural Treason. Conservatives can solve the problem easily and quickly. We will stop all subsidies to and for the undesirable elements named above. Removing Liberals from all positions of authority comes first, starting with the impeachment and defrocking of all Federal Judges who violate their Constitutional Oaths.
Jack London| 5.24.12 @ 11:31AM
'reduced to serfdom by predators, perverts, parasites, and idiots'
Hey guy, that no way to talk about Wall Street's finest.
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 11:50AM
Is your name 'Wall Street', since he was referring to you?????
shortcake| 5.24.12 @ 1:01PM
Looks like we are on our way back to Fascism -- and u wonder why we are liberals. God, u cons r stupid -- read the constitution; it's a great read.
R U OK?| 5.24.12 @ 3:01PM
Shortcake, longcake, cake of any length at all, is irrelevant when one's head is not inserted in one's anal orifice. How do you breath?
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 1:08PM
R U OK?
She is driving while texting with her head firmly there.
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 5:11PM
Read an English grammar fifth-grade READER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jefferson| 5.24.12 @ 4:33PM
After what Reaganomics and Bushitis just did to the economy? Are you kidding? Conservatism is a cancer on the country of a progressive, forward looking America.
From the Desk of Media Matters| 5.24.12 @ 11:10PM
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Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 11:47AM
RET, If you're in my senior citizen age bracket, I know you realize that liberals/progressives/domestic terrorists are never interested in conservative points of view, since it always THEIR-WAY-OR-THE-HIGHWAY. Since they think that they are intellectually superior to everyone else, it is simply beneath them to ever consider a conservative's opinions or worse yet, their published book. Don't sweat it, since any normal, rational human being does not even watch or read these MSM pieces of literary garbage that are more biased than Iran's newspapers [which take their management direction from similar no doubt]. Just keep on interviewing with conservative publications and FOX to get word out about your important book and no doubt sales will keep increasing. Good luck and thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Richard Ryan| 5.24.12 @ 11:50AM
Liberalism has only another generation to completely dominate. Scores of recent college graduates (overwhelmingly democrat), leftist indoctrination in public schools, and the growth of non-white populations will complete the process. Our national experiment will come to an end.
Jefferson| 5.24.12 @ 4:48PM
I certainly hope so, it has been a dismal failure since Reagan started this crap.
Who Knows?| 5.24.12 @ 12:09PM
“There’s a sucker born every minute.” and “Never give a sucker an even break.”---two truths to always keep in mind, and with which to filter the ever more ridiculous unfolding of human foibles.
Why should the highly evolved top dogs of the MSM,, aka liberalism establishment, give anyone a break?
SUCKER!
Or, these days, given the recent expression of Narcissus on stilts, the Facebook IPO “disaster”---
ZUCKER!
As in, you are ZUCKED!
Related to the sucker-suckee divide is the fool-knave one.
Maybe they are one and the same thing.
Here’s the sneaky thing---sneaky, in the sense that the tick-tock passing of minute after minute has, like dripping water, done its thing so slowly as to miss noticing--- machines have so taken over humanity, in the developed countries, that most people in those places are living lives filled with IDLE time.
Yes---we are a nation of IDLERS!
And, we all know what the devil does with their---OUR---hands. Play on, with—THINGS.
So, RET uses his free time to write a book, and now spends more free time to bemoan the lack of other people using their free time to TALK to him about what he wrote.
See what I mean---idle time in action. Oh, so handy!
My advice---get physically real, get down and literally dirty, by finding some land you can USE your hands to physically handle, and be a true creator by growing food.
Why, I’ll even leave some slack, and let you use a rototiller, to initially prepare the soil---go ahead and use some gasoline and a machine, if you have to.
Given that you will live for a while, though, best would be to “marry” your land, by using time, when it’s the right season, with a shovel and pitchfork, double digging the soil, square foot by square foot.
Here’s how to do it.
Lay out plots no more than five feet wide---say you have one that’s 5 by 20 feet. At one end, dig a trench one foot deep, and move the soil to the other end of the plot. Then, use a pitchfork to loosen the soil another foot deep. If you have very hard and rocky soil, as I did, get down on your knees, and pound a crowbar as deep as you can with a heavy hammer, removing rocks as you go.
Of course, you should do a soil test right away to find out what amendments you need to add. Or, like me, you could just add compost and horse manure into the trench, as you go.
Next, move the top foot of soil next to the trench over what you just loosened. Rinse and repeat---that is, loosen the next trench, etc, etc, etc.
Doing this, year by year---in short, using your idle hands to improve your garden---beats reading books and spreading idle thoughts.
Remember the “human growth” movement?
Well, by being seasonally “attached” to your garden, thusly, you are physically growing yourself, at least partly---if you plant, tend, and eat the gracefully yielded produce. And, you are getting back to the source, essentially, by growing the soil.
A time to every purpose, a season for every thing, though.
These idle-hands days, within which most people have moved to urban jungles, and therefore have no place to practice “dirty hands”, it would take a paradigm shift for society to come close to doing what I write about.
Maybe it’s meant for the older and wiser of us, who’ve moved on from the “Facebook Revolution” type reality.
Ah, it seems like only yesterday, when the computer divide was the topic du jour---and now, in oh so many ways, it could be all about the “garden” divide.
Get and BE real!
You human beings---humus Beings.
UnrepentantCurmudgeon| 5.24.12 @ 12:17PM
You're right about Hannity. He isn't afraid of the left and apparently thinks that anyone with a point of view should be able to contend with anyone with an opposing point of view. After all, he did it with Colmes for years.
shortcake| 5.24.12 @ 1:07PM
What? Hannity is the biggest liar on tv; I love how Colin Powell blew him a new one the other day when he was trying to lead him into demeaning the president. Ha, that was great. Hannity has 3 cons and one "so-called" liberal like Joe "the traitor" Lieberman or Doug "democratic strategist" Schoen on and shuts that person down if that person disagrees which they never do because they r dinos. That's why colmes got out of that mess.
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 1:11PM
UnrepententCurmudgeon,
You're so right. Hannity has the most patience I've seen in a man, the most robust constitution, in dealing with the Left of just about anyone in media, including Rush.
He shows he is a man under the Grace of God.
RCV| 5.25.12 @ 3:32PM
Sure....he's a Roman Catholic!
Only One Mediator Christ Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 4:59PM
So?
RCV| 5.27.12 @ 4:00PM
I though God hated Catholicism, that it was the work of Satan. How could a dedicated and devout adherent and promoter of Satan's be under God's grace?
Only One Mediator| 5.28.12 @ 1:38PM
I've listened to Sean for many years, and spoken with him on air as well.
He doesn't agree with everything having to do with Catholicism, for your information.
And as usual, you present a deceitful argument.
The doctrines are what GOD is against, therefore I as well, not the individuals who are fooled by its teachers.
And YOU KNOW IT.
RCV| 5.28.12 @ 3:38PM
You can pretend all you want, Margie. Sean Hannity is a devout Roman Catholic, educated at Sacred Heart Seminary in Hempstead and St Pius X Prepartory Seminary in Uniondale. He accepts Catholic religious discipline, including the Pope's infallibility and his status as Vicar of Christ on earth. And that's OK.
Derek Leaberry| 5.24.12 @ 12:23PM
Our host is disingenuous. The Left is very strong as it identifies with the many millions of malcontents and losers in the country. The university professoriate. The Gramcsian social liberals. Feminist. Blacks. Jews. Teachers. Homosexuals. Latinos. Government workers. Organized labor. Old people dependent on Social Security and Medicare. That is a very large base of support. Conservatives ignore that power base at their peril.
shortcake| 5.24.12 @ 1:17PM
Says the white male who just always seemed to be the best qualified for that highest paying job. Yeah, all those people you mentioned -- losers - you r the best. Ha, I am glad u r dieing out; u deserve it and it should come as no surprise to u that no one wants to procreate u. Funny how most of u guys r the ones that have the most of the representation on television, in congress, board rooms, colleges, schools, state and local legislatures, heads of households, judgeships, everything and yet u always complain about your lot in life. Check out the mirror. To quote the great HC, if u don't have a job, blame yourself. If u r not rich, blame yourself. And then his republican true colors come out: Then go blame the white house
Drunken Sailor| 5.24.12 @ 2:50PM
If you want to be taken seriously you should really stop using text shorthand. It shows your immaturity, lack of expierence in the real world and everyone past the age of 25 thinks your clueless.
Not only do you not have all the answers to the worlds issues, you don't even know the damn questions yet.
Derek Leaberry| 5.24.12 @ 3:00PM
Your command of the English language is sublime. You should apply to write a column at the Daily Kos or the Huffington Post.
Petronius| 5.24.12 @ 4:28PM
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Liberals control all of those entities. Liberals are Not "White". And they have controlled everything for over half a century.
charlie p| 5.24.12 @ 1:00PM
Hear hear Emmet. The harder the mainstream media try to exclude, the more rapid the decline of their media dominance. People are instinctively aware of imbalances and do their best to right them.
BB| 5.24.12 @ 1:03PM
Dear Mr. Tyrrell:
Surely you protest too much! How can the Ministry of Truth function efficiently with counterrevolutionaries free to commit thought crimes? Ignorance is Strength!
Remember to love me....BB
Rhoetus| 5.24.12 @ 1:05PM
If ABC, CBS, NBC et.al called that would mean that "they" are intellectually honest! Sadly they are not.
nomadc| 5.24.12 @ 1:37PM
Two observations. First, perhaps Mr. Tyrell's book offers no new information or insights that merit appearances on the media outlets he names. Ann Coulter certainly seems to have no problem getting booked on so-called "liberal" media venues everytime she brings out a new book.
Second observation. Perhaps I speak for many Americans who are frankly tired of the labels and ideological gamesmanship of both sides. Bomb-throwing, name calling and derisive dismissal of solutions because they depart from the opinions of a political party's base only ensures continued strife and exacerbates our problems. Liberals and conservatives are equally guilty in behaving like spoiled children who want everything their way. But at the end of the day, unless our elected officials find the backbone to come together and seek out solutions that address the common good and not political ideology, we are lost.
David Doney| 5.24.12 @ 3:12PM
You are correct in that the debate has shifted to the Right since the crisis, as folks seem to be thinking: "If they gave my tax dollars to the bank, I'm not giving them any more."
President Obama's huge tax cuts, big deficits, and aggressive intervention in foreign countries is Right of center. His centrist healthcare bill (far left is Medicare for all with doctors on the government payroll) is not particularly liberal.
That said, very little the Conservatives are saying is factually accurate.
For example, both spending and revenue are 3% GDP away from historical average, so we have a revenue and a spending problem, not just one or the other.
Second, that climate change is real and man-influenced is the overwhelming scientific consensus. There is a lot more debate in the media than in the scientific community, as the former is very influenced by oil money.
Third, CBO estimates the Bush tax cuts will add $3 trillion to the debt over the next decade, not add to revenues.
And last, marginal tax rates on the wealthy are not correlated with job creation, nor is higher levels of regulation.
In other words, the facts have a liberal bias. This will doom the Far-Right eventually.
David Doney| 5.24.12 @ 3:15PM
I should clarify my prior post; big deficits and high spending relative to GDP are very consistent with Reagan, not necessarily conservatives more generally.
fiscal = David Doney???| 5.25.12 @ 6:25PM
Is your middle name 'Jefferson' by any chance?
David| 5.24.12 @ 4:09PM
Nomadc, you are wrong. You are the problem with your squishy go along to get along middle of the road BS.
We are in a war dude. The future of our country is in a war with the leftists. There is no room for pitty pat, only knock-out puches.
Perhaps your name should be No Gonads instead of nomadc.
David| 5.24.12 @ 4:13PM
Drunken sailor, you should have used commas after "real world" and after "world" in the next paragraph you should have used an apostrophe before the "s". I'm just saying...............if you are going to be so critical of Mr. Tyrrell.
Drunken Sailor| 5.24.12 @ 4:17PM
Thanks for pointing out my grammer mistakes David but you may want to go back and re-read my post. Here is a hint, since it is posted indented from shortcakes it implies I was replying to him, not Mr. Tyrell.
Cheers!
Jack London| 5.24.12 @ 4:24PM
You missed his 'your' instead of 'you're'. What shall we do with the drunken sailor? Send him back to 3rd grade, I reckon.
Drunken Sailor| 5.24.12 @ 4:45PM
Typical liberals. Attack the grammer when you can't refute the remarks. By the way Jack, since Drunken Sailor is a name you should have capitalized it.
See you back at school.
Cheers.
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 5:15PM
Too bad we can't send you to the NYT!!!!!!!!
One Mediator, Jesus| 5.24.12 @ 4:42PM
Mr. Tyrell,
I am here to inform you that you are living proof that Liberalism is not dead.
So now you call it, "sexual diversity?"
UGH.
How sad. You are turning into the same Goldwater turned into in his senility? A flaming Liberal??
Actually, I guess you're just a "good ol' Lefty Libertarian", hmm?
Oldefarte| 5.24.12 @ 5:14PM
Want true liberalism, try the following:
'.....Breitbart.comObama DOJ Forces University To Allow Biological Male Into Female Restrooms by Ben Shapiro 2 hours ago The Obama Department of Justice has reportedly ordered the University of Arkansas at Ft. Smith (UAFS) to allow a male student to use women’s bathrooms on campus. Campus Reform reports that a male student who calls himself “Jennifer Braly,” and is in the process of raising money to pay for his sex-reassignment surgery, filed a complaint with the Office of Civil Rights in the Department of Justice after the campus told him to use gender-neutral bathrooms rather than women’s restrooms. “Someone saw me using the women’s public restrooms and complained,” said Braly. “[O]ne problem to this is there are not unisex bathrooms in every building. Especially the two main buildings where most of my classes are, so I have to go to a completely different building to use the restroom.” The university had offered to turn more gender-specific bathrooms into gender-neutral bathrooms. Braly filed the complaint anyway.Mark Horn, vice president of university relations, said that the DOJ “basically made its expectations through the attorney and the decision was made to respond to that direction … [the] DOJ complaint caused revisiting of our thinking … In the eyes of the law this individual is entitled to use the bathroom that she identifies with.” Women on campus have complained about Braly using the female restrooms.Braly is anatomically male. He is also 36 years old, and has been married twice, and has a biological daughter with his second ex-wife. The DOJ has refused to release the letter in question.....'
One Mediator, Jesus| 5.24.12 @ 6:37PM
Ok, that's true Liberalism. but so is the acceptance of so called "sexual diversity", being against capital punishment and easing up on crime.
There's no excusing it. Sorry.
Yeah, Liberalism is dead. Right. He just calls it something else.
I say in agreement with michael Savage~ it's a definite mental disorder. And it seems to especially take hold in old age.
One Mediator, Jesus| 5.24.12 @ 6:39PM
Maybe Clint/Tim* really IS Tyrell. He never did deny it, did he?
Where does he stand on Israel?
Thom| 5.24.12 @ 7:04PM
There are willing “proxies” for the required roles needed to enlist responses….
Clint| 5.24.12 @ 10:57PM
Uh Oh !
American Spectator's Infamous Former Screwball Maniac Resident Lapsed Catholic, Turned Ax Gridin' Anti-Catholic Has Re-Entered The Building.
Now, Tell Us Where You Say Practicing Jews & Practicing Muslims Go When The Die, Screwball Sneaky NutBag, Margie.
One Mediator, Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 12:08AM
That's funny coming from you, since you changed your screen name as well. Oh, that's right! You're a Catholic~ you get to make the rules AND break them.
Hypocrite.
And I'm not sneaking anything. I've signed my name to my posts, and conversed while being attacked by you vile freaks without hiding who I am.
Grow up, loser.
And I'll let the Word of God say who goes where:
"For God so loved the world that He gave his only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal Life.
For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
He who believes in Him is not condemned; he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the Name of the only Son of God." Jn, 3:16-18.
Your false Religion doesn't agree with Jesus. It tells you that everyone goes to Heaven, that all they have to do is spend some time in the fantasy they created called Purgatory and then they'll be on their way.
Your foul spirit is only a result of what you really believe.
I hope you repent before you die, and turn to the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. If you don't, you'll perish, like He says.
One Mediator, Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 12:13AM
Tell us where the practicing pedophile Priests go, and even worse those who harbor them safely, when they die, pervert?
BTW~ are you Tyrell? Especially now that you are outing yourself as pro-sexual diversity and all.
One Mediator, Jesus| 5.25.12 @ 12:21AM
Oh, and I'm not a lapsed Catholic. That would take an informed decision to be one, in the first place. And when I was about 12 years old, I knew that the whole Pope, Nun, solemn assembly, cold Catechism, phony goody-two-shoes Religion wasn't for me.
Then, Jesus revealed Himself to me, and that's all I needed.
Praise His Holy Name.
Saved by Grace through Faith, filled with His Spirit, overwhelmed by His Love, just like the Word of God says.
Thom| 5.24.12 @ 5:34PM
Emmett, the problem with your claim and your book is that it has the merits of a German Jew in 1939 claiming to a stadium full of Black Shirts that the Brown Shirt movement is dead….
What next, claims that only 20% of people in this country are “liberals” yet they manage to get 50-60% of government power in elections over decades? Exactly how does that happen?
If FNC is the non-liberal TV News outlet of choice you might want to look at the viewership of all of those non-FNC competitors and explain how they dwarf the viewership of FNC both individually and combined with the exception of CNN and MSNBC?
There is the way it should be and the way it is. You seem stuck on the former at the expense of about 100 years of steady “progress” into the arms of some version of Marx’s nightmare. An eternal optimist might not want to hear this but having the autopsy say the patient was cancer free when he died from complication of that cancer is not a victory for the patient. The prognosis today for this nation is that it is on a “terminal” trajectory and between 40-51 percent will continue to vote for a national suicide pact for as long as they can perceive personal benefit from that Pact and not suffer any consequences for their actions at the polls.
I wish you the very best of luck with your new book but I’m a realist before anything else.
Pat| 5.24.12 @ 9:02PM
Thom: completely agree with your sentiments – it was a nice pep rally speech from this author but our hometown Fighting Conservatives are getting their collective butts whipped. Another “Death of Whatever” book is nice for Barnes and Noble but will join all those “Take Back Our Country, Our Nation, Our Government, etc. ” books lining the shelves within their Current Affairs section. We can certainly “take back” the latest tie we received for Father’s Day but taking back our country occupies a much higher notch on the impossibility scale. Still, hope springs eternal, even as our government borrows more money.
Books with titles like “Kick the Can Back Up the Road” explain it clearly and complete with charts, graphs and other flights of dreary factualism. Western governments can’t change and certainly don’t want to – mainly because a majority of their citizens don’t want to. You promise much, you borrow money to payoff your promises, the next incoming crop of elected employees borrows even more to pay for those promises which helped elect them and on it goes.
The hope is you can keep refinancing your Nation’s massive debt forever – when you max out one credit card, you switch to a new one. We could trade California to the Euro Zone for Greece, Europeans would jump at that deal, at least for a short while. But in very little time, California and its citizens would become a bigger headache for Europe than Greece is for them now.
When the average citizen owes something like $200,000 as his or her share of the national debt, there is no “Taking Back Your Country” – that’s almost absurd in its naiveté. And should your individual share of the national debt rise to $250,000, so what? You can’t get blood out of a rock or out of an Obama voter either.
Thom| 5.25.12 @ 6:06PM
Pat,
One thing I’ve learned in the 60 years I’ve been on this planet is that while liars “figure” all sorts of schemes to dup the willing masses, the underlying true math always wins. If those 20% Liberals didn’t win another Presidency, Governorship, the Republicans maintained control of the majority of the State legislatures as they do now, Republicans kept control of the House and the Democrats just kept 41 or more reliable votes in the Senate virtually nothing would change regarding that which is going to push us into the Abyss. Existing laws/legislation has to change to undo this mess. The Democrats threaten anarchy and violence just when they can’t pile on more to the mess they’ve made over the last 100 years of government control. The Republicans celebrate like the first 4th of July when they just slow down the “progressive” march to hell. Meanwhile the underlying fiscal math marches on toward the cliff. At some point you can’t stop this slide into the Abyss. With the bulk of government cost skewed onto a relatively small number of citizens and nearly half paying nothing to support government and nearly a third paying no taxes at all the Math is going to win here probably before I assume room temperature in say 20 years from now (statistically speaking). I’ve said this before to deaf ears that the time for moderation has passed and with each passing year the choices narrow from bad to really bad to terrible. Somebody’s Ox is going to get sacrificed. Whose is about the only variable left to be determined.
Rational people with well-intentioned motives can put to paper all sorts of ways out of our fiscal mess but at no time in our history has there been the focused political will to hold to a consistent path long enough in such matters to matter. There has always been calamity followed by some sober realizations that there are universal truths in life. You don’t have to be a cynic to grasp the nature of man and accept that Democracies commit suicide eventually. Most people will not vote against their own self interests. Adams said that our form of government is only fit for moral people. We are not a moral people any longer on so many levels to dwell on here.
The Math, the Math, the Math always wins.
Hanoi Paris Hilton| 5.24.12 @ 6:49PM
Michael Fumento (could that be Esperanto for David Frum???), who recently entered rehab for his former nasty wingnut obsessions, just published quite a screed over at Salon, which in its kneejerk lefty raging glory, puts the Puffington House to shame! Salon maybe isn't quite the MSM, but of Fumento's spittle-flecked wide ranging denunciations, the one of Rep. Allen West's labeling some 75 (or however many) members of the Democrat's "Progressive" caucus as "communists" is almost perfectly invalidated by the Progressive-Stalinist-Maoist epigones amongst Salon's commentariat, who generally find Frumento's mea culpa too little too late, and certainly aren't welcoming him to their camp with rosewater and garlands. See:
http://www.salon.com/2012/05/2.....singleton/
http://www.salon.com/2012/05/2.....singleton/
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 7:33PM
I just read the linked piece. If Mr. Fumento wished to demonstrate a true act of courage, he might try to publish his thoughts on the matter here, as opposed to Salon.
Joseph A Vanchieri Jr.| 5.24.12 @ 7:19PM
I doubt liberalism will ever be dead. As long as there are people out there with no self esteem it will offer them a way of life. The catch is that it doesn't last. The other peoples money doesn't last forever and the so called other people get tired of forking it out. That time is now.
vigilant| 5.24.12 @ 10:50PM
Joseph, liberalism will never be dead as long as human nature is alive. It can be countered, but conservatives haven't done that very effectively. And we moan about how things got to this state. Yes, the time is now, but politicians won't do the job for us.
POST American| 5.24.12 @ 11:07PM
------Great '90's Show' DIS---traction.
Meanwhile, the still functioning might
want to CHECK OUT
'25 Signs RED China is COLONIZING
America'
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AGAIN, ---in this, the 11th hour of the
CFR---RED China handover, takedown,
USURPATION, OCCUPATION ---and
----------FINAL EUGENICS OP----------
you ---might ---just might want to update
things.
"--Why that's nonsense! ---nonsense!
---O'Reilly would've warned us!
--------Oprah's up there making sure
things are nice---"
---RRRRRRIGHT.
Now, go to the mirror, make eye contact,
take a deep breath, and repeat 3 times
slowly
-----------'HUAC is NOW Nuremberg'
victor| 5.25.12 @ 10:59AM
Emmett,
You'll remain persona non grata with the media even though you've come around to their way of thinking and believing.
"And the LORD will bring you back in ships to Egypt, a journey which I promised that you should never make again; and there you shall offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no man will buy you." Deut. 28:68.
POST American| 5.25.12 @ 11:44PM
"NOTICE, once again, as the REAL
campaign approaches ---the REAL
issues 'disappear'."
-Informed radio online
NOTICE further --that you'll sit there
talking about the FAKE issues they give
you to talk about.
NOTICE even further, even your opinions
on those FAKE issues ----were given to you.
"--Get them thinking! ---that they're
thinking! ---That's Tavistock's greatest trick!"
Indeed it is.
SO notice for yourself
---and remember what you notice.
NOW, for something memorable
from before the age of FOX 'News'
"America better watch it
or in a couple of decades
we're going to be a minstrel
show --for RED China."
-Gore Vidal
(1985)
This unquestionably is the 11th hour
of the CFR---RED China handover, takedown,
and FINAL EUGENICS OP --------
TAKE NOTICE!
TeaPartyPatriot4ever| 5.26.12 @ 3:15AM
Mr Tyrrell, I like the article, as your statements about the leftwing media, especially in your book, is true.
I must take the notion that to belie oneself for not being accepted by the liberal media outlets, major or minor, broadcast, radio, print, etc., is not something that should be delved upon, but rather something that should be worn as a badge of honor.
In other words, whether it's the far left media, or the Rightwing establishment media, intolerance, prejudice, and biased censorship by either personal attacks, or by a deliberate omission, of even by the new censorship tool of internet banning, thus silencing your free speech, is what they use and how they use it to stifle one's opinions, statements, and views which they dislike for whatever reason or manner, without so much as an explanation, especially in this age of radical Obama liberal mentality, which may I say is on both sides of the political aisle, is extremely repugnant and repulsive to what Freedom and Liberty is all about.. Just ask any Tea Party Reagan Conservative.
I just wish I had the smarts and education and knowledge like you and Andrew Breitbart had to be a professional writer, blogger, and investigative journalist, and set up your own conservative web team website, etc and so on, if one does not have the money to start a cable news outlet like Fox News.
As it is, I am but a simple but persistent layman blogger post commentator, who has my fair share of the same maltreatment from both side of the political media spectrum. As when your enemies, those who do not like to hear the truth, try to use every possible means to silence you, in whatever area you work in or out of, is a constant issue of contention when advocating what you believe and know to be true factually and righteously, as do all of us Reagan Tea Party Constitutional Conservatives know. And as a retired US Military person after 20 years, I know that battles are always hard fought and come with emotional and even physical scars.
Keep up the good work and good fight Mr Tyrrell.
mrpoon| 5.28.12 @ 8:35AM
Well said.However the internet is rapidly putting all the media you mentioned in the rear view mirror.
Jeamar| 5.28.12 @ 11:19AM
OK One Mediator..., please explain. What is this "Bible-believing Christian" business? What Christian wouldn't believe in the Bible? Is this a new code word among fundamentalists and evangelials.
I just want to understand what it means to you.
Only One Mediator| 5.28.12 @ 1:33PM
Jeamar,
In order to be a true Christian, Jesus says we must love not only Him, but His Words. He says we must not only believe in Him, but obey His Words. (As best as possible, and by His Grace!).
Religion says it's OK to believe in teachings that aren't biblical, and in fact, opposite of Jesus' Own Words.
These false teachings are what leads the Religionists to look at true Christians with the eyes of "heretic" or "Bigot", if we speak out against the false teachings.
As an example, you have been taught that there are "fundamentalists" and "evangelicals", as if that is something wrong, or weird, when in fact Jesus commands ALL Christians to preach His Gospel to the World.
The word fundamental having to with with sticking to His actual Words, and not straying, and the word evangelical having to do with preaching the Gospel.
Hope that helped and glad you asked!
Only One Mediator| 5.28.12 @ 1:34PM
"He who does not love Me does not keep My Words; and the Word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me." Jn. 14:24.
Gus| 5.28.12 @ 12:05PM
Mainstream media (a Limbaugh coinage?) are not mainstream. They flow in their own current. They have given up trying to report the news for attempting to shape the news. Someday newspapers will revive by learning that their old ideal -- while honored too often in the breach -- of printing the truth as far as it can be found, is the way to economic success. Broadcast, cable, internet and whatever comes along may need to follow suit. Of course, there will always be room for opinion, which now, unfortunately, seems to rule.