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Letter From Paris
France’s Islamist Powder Keg
How not to deal with jihadists.
From the first intelligence surveillance to the final shootout, France’s clumsy handling of its spate of Islamic terrorism in March was a case study in how not to deal with a jihadist. With the largest Muslim community in Europe—nearly 10 percent of the population—and thousands of young Frenchmen going to Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt, and Yemen on the pretext of studying the Koran, it does not bode well for the country’s domestic tranquility. Neither does the fact that officials have long been in denial, minimizing the threat for fear of alarming the public and antagonizing an increasingly restive ethnic-Arab minority. Thus tranquillized, the French public shrugs and says pas de problème: a recent poll shows only 53 percent think the terrorist threat is dangerous, the lowest level of concern since 2001.
Mohamed Merah, the 23-year-old Frenchman of Algerian descent who shot three French soldiers point blank in the South of France, then slaughtered a teacher, his two young sons, and an 8-year-old girl at a Jewish school in Toulouse, said loud and clear that he was acting for al Qaeda. His coolly professional assassinations, intended to “bring France to its knees”—President Nicolas Sarkozy compared them to the 9/11 attacks in the U.S.—bore the jihadist imprint right down to filming them and ensuring he died a martyr’s death seen on the world’s television screens. He signed his social network account “Mohamed Merah-Forsane Alizza,” meaning “Knights of Pride,” an outlawed France-based jihadist outfit.
Yet the government energetically pooh-poohed the idea that France was seriously threatened by Islamic fundamentalists. “These crimes were the work of a fanatic and a monster,” Nicolas Sarkozy insisted. “To look for an explanation…would be a moral fault.” He instructed the French not to blame the attacks on “our Muslim compatriots [who] had nothing to do with the crazy motivation of a terrorist.” Most of the obedient French media went along with the politically correct whitewash.
Despite his claims to the contrary, Merah was officially described as a loner with no assistance from any al Qaeda affiliate. Indeed, the favorite theory of the chattering class was that he must be a right-wing neo-Nazi. Or failing that, just your typical underprivileged, disaffected guy who had had a miserable childhood in the slums. The left-leaning Le Monde reported that he had “an angelic face, a fascinating beauty.” His 15 arrests and doing time for everything from stoning buses to violent theft and fighting with rivals? Liberals outdid themselves to show he was the psychologically disturbed victim of an unjust society. “A pathetic young man…the victim of a social order that had already doomed him, and millions of others like him, to a marginal existence, and to the non-recognition of his status as a citizen equal in rights and opportunities,” explained the Muslim apologist Tariq Ramadan, who was denied a U.S. visa for providing material support to a terrorist organization before the ACLU persuaded Hillary Clinton to lift the ban.
The failure of the French domestic intelligence agency, the DCRI, to spot Merah as a serious threat, and its subsequent efforts at self-justification, would have been comic were we not dealing with tragedy. Its chief called him a self-radicalized young man with a split personality, a lone wolf who operated below the radar. Besides, he pleaded, Merah had not followed the usual path taken by Islamist extremists. He wasn’t visibly part of any network. He even went to nightclubs instead of mosques, for heaven’s sake, so how could we know he was a jihadist? “We had absolutely no reason to believe he was commissioned by al Qaeda to carry out these attacks.” No doubt it would have helped to have a copy of his marching orders on an al Qaeda letterhead.
The DCRI chief and other officials tried to make light of a 2010 trip Merah made to Afghanistan’s Kandahar province, spiritual home of the Taliban. But as information leaked out, it became clear that this poor kid, who lived on welfare payments of about $600 a month, had left tracks all over the Middle East, with somebody else obviously paying the bills. Besides Afghanistan, he later visited Egypt, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and Israel in the space of two years. Strangely, he was reportedly arrested by Afghan police on his first trip and handed over to American forces there, who returned him to France. The FBI’s counterterrorism department put him on the no-fly list, barring entry to the U.S. The French ignored this, either through sheer sloppiness or to avoid any appearance of profiling.
They did, however, put him under loose surveillance. Nearly a year after his first trip to Afghanistan, a DCRI agent in Toulouse finally called his cell number to ask him to come in for a talk. He didn’t bat an eye when Mohamed answered and said sorry, he couldn’t—he was busy in Pakistan at the time. When he finally did drop in months later, these Keystone Kops approvingly looked over the photos he brought along as proof he was there as a tourist, said something like très bien, mon ami, and let him go. (This casual relationship and other aspects of the case led to speculation that Merah was perhaps a double agent, an informer for the DCRI who was turned by al Qaeda; a lawyer hired by his father claims to have video proof that he was “manipulated” and “liquidated” by the police.)
The official French version that Merah was a lone wolf inspired by his solitary reading of the Koran looked even more foolish when it became known that he had trained for two months in North Waziristan on the Af-Pak border, likely with the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), an umbrella group of Pakistani factions. He would have been anything but alone. Pakistani intelligence officials told the Associated Press that dozens of French Muslim militants, many with dual French-North African nationality, are training there:
The Frenchmen operate under the name Jihad-e-Islami and are being trained to use explosives and other weapons at camps near the town of Miran Shah and in the Datta Khel area, the officials said. They are led by a French commander who goes by the name Abu Tarek.
When they return to France, all it will take to waken these sleeping agents will be a call from Kandahar.
Merah certainly learned about firearms. Somehow, right under the noses of French surveillance and with financial assistance from guess who, he amassed a stash of guns, including several Colt .45 automatics with extra magazines, an automatic Sten pistol, a Colt Python revolver, a pump-action shotgun, and an Uzi submachine gun, along with ingredients for Molotov cocktails. With this arsenal he was able to intimidate and toy with a 15-man French SWAT team for all of 32 hours, wounding five and repeatedly forcing them to retreat when they tried to enter his small, three-room apartment in Toulouse.
Actually the effort to take Merah down was as amateurish as the earlier intelligence failures. When the SWAT team finally did succeed in blowing off the door and entering, they riddled him with bullets instead of taking him alive for interrogation as they were ordered to do. Much of France wondered along with Christian Prouteau, the retired chief of the gendarmerie’s elite GIGN commando unit (the SWAT team were police, not better-trained paramilitary gendarmes), who asked, “How can a top police unit botch the capture of a lone gunman? If they had pumped his apartment with tear gas, he wouldn’t have lasted five minutes.” Some Israeli security experts were even harsher. Alec Ron, a former head of the Israel police commando unit, told Israeli public radio the operation was marked by “utter confusion and unprofessionalism.… It was an absolute disgrace.”
One reason for this foul-up was that Sarkozy ordered the merger of two domestic intel agencies three years ago, a fusion that has yet to gel. Another might have been political interference, in an election year, with police work. But the main problem is that France is ill equipped, psychologically and politically, to deal with a huge, unassimilated Muslim population increasingly tempted by radicalism. France poses as a beacon of human rights and égalité, which to the Gallic mind rules out affirmative action (that would be unequal) or even accepting the reality of ethnic diversity. With impeccable logic, it officially has no minorities—everyone is by definition French and therefore equal; the law prohibits statistics based on race or religion. There’s no yardstick even to begin to measure the problem.
This in turn has meant that the government, ever so careful about treading on anybody’s toes, tries to avoid any appearance of cracking down on Muslim activism that could lead to radical Islamicism. If, as Mao wrote, the guerrilla must swim in the people as a fish swims in the sea, jihadist guerrillas must find good swimming in French Muslim waters. It might get even easier for them to disappear from police view if Socialist François Hollande becomes president. He has made the ultimate politically correct campaign promise: if elected he would ask parliament to remove the word “race” from the constitution.
Whatever the outcome of this month’s election, the slaughter of the innocents in Toulouse is a wake-up call that France ignores at its considerable peril. As an adviser to Sarkozy said, sotto voce, “This is going to raise questions about our system of integration, our approach to fundamentalism, and our tolerance of certain practices here.” For sure. Meanwhile, no one knows when or where the French Islamist powder keg will blow next.
About the Author
Joseph A. Harriss is The American Spectator’s Paris correspondent. His latest book, An American Spectator in Paris, was released this fall.
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Mike Hawk| 5.16.12 @ 6:45AM
That Muslim element are not Frenchmen. They do not like France, Arabic is their first language and Islam is their culture and faith. If they can't figure that out there is no help. It seems socialism, fornication and the 'good' life are what the Froggy population wants. As the low birthrate shrinks the French population, domination is easy. France is doomed.
Jack in Wi.| 5.16.12 @ 7:41AM
As Hillaire Belloc wrote 74 years ago, at least the Muslims believe in something. France and Europe are collapsing because a majority of them have abandoned the Catholic Faith and traditions which made the place. Socialism and other forms of neopaganism will never replace God.
Alex Bruce Savant-Drewell| 5.16.12 @ 1:27PM
Hitler believed in something too, you old fossil!
(Jackie...you're NOT fooling anyone!)
darcy| 5.16.12 @ 2:07PM
ABSD: If you can't provide an intelligent and cogent rebuttal, then go away. You just messed all over yourself, and we all got to see it.
Occam's Tool| 5.16.12 @ 2:26PM
Thank you Jack, for your endorsement of scum.
old white guy| 5.16.12 @ 2:57PM
jeez, jack see my comment re michigan.
old white guy| 5.16.12 @ 2:56PM
welcome to michigan, u s of a. only fools think they will control islam witout violence.
Gary B| 5.16.12 @ 7:08AM
Witnessing politically-correct, socialist France commit suicide is sad, indeed. I wonder how soon the Muslims will demand the destruction of all the Western art held in trust there. France, of all places. The West has a huge social and cultural stake in the outcome and the idiot French are walking away from it. Of course, all of that is applauded by our own, mentally-deficient progressives.
martin j smith| 5.16.12 @ 7:33AM
Unless the French People wake up their be no France. France is just about gone anyway so I do not
go to the Virtual Islamic Republic.
Melvin| 5.16.12 @ 7:43AM
Many people do not realize that when anyone, whether it be a Country, or a religious army goes to war, it doesn't necessarily mean with what the West considers the definition of war as we have known it in the twentieth century.
France and or Europe was not invaded by hoards of tanks and blitzkrieg tactics, but by shear numbers of human beings. Some call this today re-colonization.
Now this is open for many discussions I suppose. Was this massive influx of Islamic humanity a calculated military style decision carried out, and directed by wealthier Islamic Countries such as Saudi Arabia the birth place of the Wahhabi sect of radical Islam or just people looking to get out of the many Islamic slums that dominate all across the Mideast?
But the reality is, that this mass of people have not bettered their lives either through their own design or of French design in which is still argued today, and is the major source of dissension within the French slums and the Islamic youth that live within.
The French say, the Muslim immigrants don't want to assimilate to French culture and the Muslims say, the French don't accept them as Frenchmen.
The this dissension breeds beings like Mohamed Merah. I suppose we shouldn't look yet to the now, but look to the Liberal past of France and the EU. When Countries had their own immigration requirements in Europe it was easy to control who came into and who left. But when the European Union was created a way more liberal immigration policy was created that allowed huge numbers of immigrants to enter the EU all at once with really no way to control or keep track of them. Another big issue is, the EU wasn't ready for them, because no place was created for them to live or to integrate, hence many of the low income areas within the EU were natural magnets for the creation of these Islamic slums.
Now the EU has one big Mohammadian problem, that isn't going to go away any time soon.
Well then how does this problem get solved? The EU and the US cannot just ignore that it doesn't exist like both societies do now.
This is my take on it, and I don't know my opinion is correct or not, but here goes. The West's governs it's societies by the rule of law, which was based on initially and to a large extent on the Judeo-Christian concept. At one time all men and women were Christians of some sort. Now when one of them broke the law, they weren't charged with conducting the crime under the name of Jesus Christ. They were did the crime on their own, and thus they were charged as an individual, and not the church.
Now here is where it gets complicated. When Mohamed Merah committed his crime he committed it in the name of Allah. So this is where the conundrum comes in. Does Western Society charge Mohamed Merah as an individual like Christian law does an which Western courts are set up under or does Western society charge Merah and Allah for murder. Because Merah didn't commit murder all by himself, he committed murder under Sharia law. Told ya it was complicated.
I know this post was lengthy, but it is definitely something to think about.
old white guy| 5.16.12 @ 2:59PM
i will shorten it for you. islam wants a world wide caliphate and will continue to fight all, repeat all who get in their way. fools dismiss this at their peril.
Susan Piercy | 5.16.12 @ 6:51PM
Leave it to an old white guy. And I will shorten it for you. All we need to know about Islam, we learned on 9/11.
Stormzeye| 5.16.12 @ 7:58AM
The first attempt attempt by Moslems to conquer France was defeated at the Battle of Tours in 732 by Charles Martel. His grandson Charlemagne founded the greatest Christian empire outside of Byzantium. This western hegemony over the Mediterranean and Europe has been eaten away slowly by Moslems who are aided in their efforts today by Socialists. These modern day Franks believe in the myth of moral equivalency, the equality of all humans regardless of their moral compass and they worship at the altar of material pleasure. They are doomed and will become enslaved as a result of their own lack of spiritual direction.
PolishKnight| 5.16.12 @ 9:50AM
When I hear terms such as "moral equivalency" and "equality of all humans", I'm reminded of a classic scene in The Big Lebowski where the German nihilists try to get Lebowski to give him the kidnapping money:
Nihilist #2: His girlfriend gave up her toe!
Nihilist #3: She though we'd be getting million dollars!
Nihilist #2: Iss not fair!
Walter Sobchak: Fair! WHO'S THE F***ING NIHILIST HERE! WHAT ARE YOU, A BUNCH OF F***ING CRYBABIES?
Very few people who proclaim to believe in moral equivalency or equality really do. They use the terms to make themselves sound progressive and caring and tolerant but by definition that exalted status for themselves shows they consider themselves better than others to begin with.
If everyone is equal, then does that mean that the French consider themselves no better than Americans?
darcy| 5.16.12 @ 2:56PM
Succinct, to the point, and irritatingly true.
HannahKatz| 5.17.12 @ 5:08PM
We could use a leader like Charles Martel about right now.
darcy| 5.17.12 @ 5:59PM
Well that's for sure!
Kilgore Trout| 5.19.12 @ 9:59AM
We could use a leader like James Mattoon Scott right about now.
Susan Piercy | 5.16.12 @ 8:11AM
Moslems do not assimilate. They expect host countries to accommodate them. If a culture is not willing to defend their morals and traditions, they will be overcome by a culture that does.
On 9/11 I learned all I need to know about Islam.
darcy| 5.16.12 @ 2:15PM
You are right, Susan Piercy.
Unhappily, much of the West has been schooled to believe that intolerance, discrimination, and racism are the greatest of all sins. Therefore, the people of the West haven't any true discernment about anything that really matters, including personal, cultural, and national survival. They traded their spiritual and cultural heritage for progressive lies and will be chewed up like raw meat before all is said and done. France and Britain are being eaten first. I hope that wakes up the rest of us.
darcy| 5.16.12 @ 2:20PM
Separationism is the only answer. Read about it at amnation.com/vfr/. Google the term at the site's search engine; scroll down, on the right, until you get there.
old white guy| 5.16.12 @ 3:02PM
darcy, separationism, new word? the basta-ds will have to be smacked down hard. period.
darcy| 5.16.12 @ 2:37PM
An example of the lengths to which the left will go to advance its campaign against racism is this bit of reporting out of Charleston regarding a Newark story that purposefully omits the race of perpetrators who attack white victims:
http://www.examiner.com/articl.....ob-attacks
So the white population is intentionally not given even the barest information it needs in order to be on guard about potentially dangerous environments, nor to be aware of the FACT of increasingly hostile and numerous attacks of whites by blacks.
This is why the Martin/Zimmerman case was forced to the front of the news; the media was selling a false narrative that actually served to tell the white community that YOU CANNOT DEFEND yourselves against black violence.
France is being told (and Britain, too) that it cannot defend itself against Islam because to do so is racist and bigoted.
tsd| 5.16.12 @ 8:52AM
Those silly French can screw up just about anything. See what liberal stupidity can get you!
PolishKnight| 5.16.12 @ 9:19AM
"the Gallic mind rules out affirmative action (that would be unequal) "
So they have something going for them after all!
Affirmative action has not reduced ethnic tensions in the United States but rather exacerbated them. Is the United States less or more obsessed with race than in the 1950's?
John786| 5.16.12 @ 9:47AM
The unhealthy obsession by this website with demonising Muslims continues: some of it no doubt to support An exclusive ethno religious state in Historic palestine. The biggest threat to Europe comes from the right. Brevic a right wing 'christain' terrorist slaughtered 70 children. Terrorism has nothing to do with ant religion or culture. It is to do in the current context with the swamps created by the war on Terror : and US foreign policy over the last 50 years in the ME. The Arab spring and the ending of the wars in ME & hopefully an end to the dispossession of the Palestinians will automatically see the end of terrorism. Do not confuse categories. And the Muslims of Europe are on the whole very well integrated. Of course in a population of twenty million plus exceptions can always be found. Peace.
Melvin| 5.16.12 @ 10:03AM
Really, then how does France account what happened a number of years ago with the burning of France and to a certain extent other EU Countries by disenfranchised Muslims youths.
As far as the integration. Of course there is always that very small percentage of the Islamic educated elite that has to be present to conduct business, but by and large Muslims in the EU remain illiterate by their own discretion, which provides a fertile assemblage of would be suicide bombers or suicide murderers such as Merah.
Purple Lips| 5.16.12 @ 1:11PM
The Arab Spring wasn't quite so kind to CBS reporter, Jennifer Logan. She was ganged raped by a few dozen practioners of the Religion of Peace.
Gary B| 5.16.12 @ 4:01PM
Yes, that symptom of the liberal mental disorder went away quickly, didn't it?
I swear, I actually would expect a liberal newspaper editor to kill a story of the rape of his own daughter by a black or a Muslim just to maintain his liberal bona fides. He'd get high fives all around the room.
That makes Liberal fanaticism just as threatening as Muslim fanaticism, doesn't it?
Suzyqpie | 5.16.12 @ 7:05PM
John786 remember that John Lennon song Imagine? Put it on your iPod and listen to it 7/24/365.
Dale left coast| 5.17.12 @ 1:06PM
Brevic a Christian? NONSENSE ! ! !
John . . . you comment demonstrates you do not have a clue . . . izzzzlam has been expanding since the 7th century . . . it is a political philosophy bent on creating a Global Kalifat . . . izzzlam is not a "race" . . . it is a diabolical political movement with no concept of Democracy as we know it . . . as the French, Danes and British are now finding out.
John786| 5.16.12 @ 10:16AM
Many of the Muslims in Europe come from peasant stock: and come from places colonised by the west for decades if not centuries. In post industrial Europe these communities face many challenges such as globalisation, unemployment etc.. Religion is not in the top 1000 list of problems they face unless you write for the spectator. Muslims are well assimilated in Europe: allegations to the contrary are a lie, utter lies without foundation.
Dick Nome| 5.16.12 @ 10:24AM
Do you pray 5 times (or however many it is) a day facing Mecca?? If not better start now so you can get used to it. Assimilate my rearend.
Melvin| 5.16.12 @ 10:42AM
"Religion is not in the top 1000 list of problems they face unless you write for the spectator." I would venture to say, "Many of those of whom you support didn't get the memo."
But then again, many of those of whom you support are also very easily duped by those, who seek to gain power.
Many Islamic states are one man one rule, instead of having a representative form of governance. Yes, some states have facsimiles of Western style of government, but by and large are governed as they have been for centuries with Caliphs, and Sheiks.
John786| 5.16.12 @ 11:08AM
The evidence shows: The US has destroyed secular Arab regimes: Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria. The evidence shows that The US is most closely allied with super ultra,ultra conservative Islamic states: The magic kingdom, Qatar.... What does this tell us. This is about control and not religion. The Arab spring no doubt is a spanner in the works. It so much harder dealing with leaders with a democratic mandate: a real bummer. Look at Greece. The US should do itself a favour an align itself with the progressive forces emerging in the ME. The Arabs could do themselves A big favour and turn their struggles against colonisation , occupation into peaceful movement: the path of the great mahatma Ghandi. They will achieve results very quickly.
Purple Lips| 5.16.12 @ 1:09PM
I'd convert so long as the Mullahs give me 4 wives of my chosing, a couple of dozen oil fields, a fat bank account in the Caymens, and partial ownership Berkshire Hathaway.
Melvin| 5.16.12 @ 1:57PM
Hmm, good points. Concerning your first sentence, why? What would be the advantage of ousting a secular regime and installing a non-secular regime?
And while I have your ear. When Ruhollah Khomeini overthrew the Shah of Iran. I have read in more than one place that the Shah was instituting political reforms to include moving Iran to a more secular type of government. This of course did not sit well Iran's religious leaders.
The world observed the Shah in a more intolerable light as an oppressive one man rule, but evidence does display that he was attempting to institute many reforms in which the world was clamoring for.
Now, Ruhollah Khomeini was exiled to France. In my opinion France wasn't all that excited about having this stick of explosives in their country, and in my opinion somewhat facilitated the move from exile to revolution.
The Shah was for the most part a loyal ally of the West, then the West completely turned it's back on him and let him wither and die.
The US had to be begged to treat him for cancer, but then it was too late.
Its a shame at least for me that there isn't enough hours in the week to read world history more.
Suzyqpie | 5.16.12 @ 7:09PM
John786 take a break. The magic kingdoms is not in Qatar. It's in Orlando.
John786| 5.16.12 @ 8:19PM
The magical kingdom aka kingdom of Saudi Arabia. I much prefer to go to Orlando.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.16.12 @ 11:18PM
I'm pretty sure that you're on the "No Fly List".
Suzyqpie | 5.16.12 @ 7:30PM
Peasant stock? Peasant stock? For real. I get you are talking about Europe, but don't bring that language here. There are no peasant Americans. We are Americans we are not victims. You're stunning and pathetic.
John786| 5.16.12 @ 10:34AM
Praying Five times a day. What has that got to do with price of cheese. Maybe time to go back on the medication.
REALITY| 5.16.12 @ 11:54AM
Praying to baal 5 times a day will not help you at all. You might as well pray to meccadated cheese facing your own rear end 786 times a day.
John786| 5.16.12 @ 12:28PM
Baal? Muslims worship the one and only true creator. They worship The first and The last. They worship The merciful, The ever merciful. They worship the one who gives honor, knowledge, wisdom. They worship The High..... 99 names of God. Who do you worship? Islam is the essense of all true religion and goodness. If you understood it you would become ( if guided) a Muslim. I pray that you are so guided.
loulou| 5.16.12 @ 1:28PM
OMG--he's a Muslim! That explains a lot.
Occam's Tool| 5.16.12 @ 2:29PM
It wasn't blindingly obvious?
darcy| 5.16.12 @ 2:40PM
It was to me!
Capatolistmom| 5.16.12 @ 1:29PM
This is Horse s-it!!! If you all were so merciful there wouldn't be all of these issues and conflicts!!! We are to respect your faith but not only do you NOT respect mine - you want to kill me if I don't convert!!! Goodness - show me ANY goodness performed buy the muslim community!@!! Were are your food banks, your outreach programs your working with people from ANY FAITH to help them when they are down???? Where are your jobs fairs and your speaking out against all of the terror - tell me again about the honor, knowledge, wisdom - where is the HUMANITY???!!!
Calvin| 5.16.12 @ 1:39PM
Baal! You murder your children in nauseating sacrifices to your god. Instead of burning them on a cow, you wrap them up in explosives and use them to kill other people's children. This won't get you into heaven my friend. The Jew made you do it or at least look the other way won't cut it. You have a rich history of murder and mayhem. It is comical the whining you do when confronted with resistance to your violent hateful religion.
REALITY| 5.16.12 @ 1:46PM
Muslims worship baal.
Stormzeye| 5.16.12 @ 1:48PM
Islam is a religion of the sword. It yearns for death and offers peace only through submission. It's Quran is unreadable so the "theology" is based upon the "hadiths" which are human interpretations of Mohammed's supposed acts and words. There is nothing new in Islam that it hadn't received from the Judeo/Christian tradition hundreds and thousands of years before. And, oh yes, you've proved in countless places over so many centuries that you cannot and will not tolerate any other belief system to exist on "your" lands. The religion of Peace and Mercy is neither. It is a political system designed only for conquest and death and at its heart is the Sword.
Occam's Tool| 5.16.12 @ 2:28PM
John786---stay away from my children, you filthy sack of dog and pig feces mixed together.
John786| 5.16.12 @ 5:25PM
Still unhinged I see mr occam. Did you seek out potty-anonymous. I thought not. One day we'll be smoking cigars in Al- Quds wandering what al the fuss was about.
darcy| 5.16.12 @ 5:52PM
We thank you very much for this additional insight, John786. Most helpful.
REALITY| 5.16.12 @ 9:57PM
You, and baal the 'god' you pray to and worship, can both go piss up a rope.
Dale left coast| 5.17.12 @ 1:11PM
The worship a rock in medina . . . the moon god . . .
Tim the Enchanter| 5.17.12 @ 3:09PM
Islam is a belief system well-suited to the kind of individual who enjoys having sex with farm animals.
Cromulent| 5.16.12 @ 12:03PM
From the article:
"the main problem is that France is ill equipped....to deal with a huge, unassimilated Muslim population increasingly tempted by radicalism."
No. Tempted by *Islam*.
J.C.Eaton| 5.16.12 @ 12:51PM
A good rule of thumb: Observe how France does things; do the opposite.
JP| 5.16.12 @ 1:05PM
Very quietly, L.A. is becoming a mecca for French Youth. If you want to know where a young, ambitious Frenchmen is headed, it isn't Montreal or Paris. Despite what the French say about the US, they would emigrate to the US if it was offered to them.
crypticguise| 5.16.12 @ 1:20PM
How many French Citizens will have to be murdered by Muslim Terrorist French Citizens before the French People rise up and say STOP?
The French are weak and cowardly; they are going to succomb to Islam like the frog in a pot of cold water eventually being boiled alive.
Tom Kyba| 5.16.12 @ 1:40PM
Thank you John 786 brain cells. Let's all have ourselves guided to Islam. peace be upon you. I WILL KILL YOU ALL!!! KILLKILLKILLKILL!... er...ahem, I mean peace upon all. DIE DIE DIE FILTHY WESTERN VERMIN!!!..oops, sorry, but you can't blame followers of the prophet for murdering innocent people everywhere. It's the Americans' fault. Yeah, that's it, it's the Americans' fault. You must be guided to the prophet by force, then you will see how peaceful we are. If not we will KILL YOU ALL...DIEDIEDIE FILTHY WESTERN DEVILS!!! Wow, this peace on earth stuff is hard. Just remember, no matter how many of you we kill, no matter how many body parts litter the bomb cratered pavement of your cities, you simply must understand that it's all for your own good. Remember also that western imperialism is always to blame for every bad thing that has ever happened in all of history. We also thank our dhimmi friends like John786 for paving our way. Thank you John786, as a result of your help, we will not kill you for now. Peace and love and die you dirty American dogs.
John786| 5.16.12 @ 2:30PM
Calm down Tom. its only comments in the electronic ether. We're not all bad you know. Believe it or not you can be a good Muslim and not want to kill anybody ever.seriously.
Boar Hunter| 5.16.12 @ 2:48PM
The only good muslim is a dead one.
Deport them and Nuke the middle east.
Juan Jose Morales-Castillo | 5.16.12 @ 3:15PM
I wish I could disagree with you, but unfortunately every day brings a fresh news item about a new Islamic atrocity in countries like Nigeria, which is very unlikely to celebrate the centennial of its independence as an united country. Islam is its own worst enemy.
John786| 5.16.12 @ 8:27PM
Atrocities are everywhere. Today was the anniversary of the massacre of 9000 Muslims in sebrinica by Serb Christians in the heart of Europe. These things are committed by evil people. We should try to create societies where love replaces hate: a value taught by all good religion and philosophies.
dc| 5.16.12 @ 3:56PM
Despite your pathetic attempts at obfuscating your vile, murderous religion's real purposes, I and most on this site understand it all too well. You're sanctioned to lie like the filthy animal you are, in order to attempt to lull idiots like the former president (GWB, Mr Religion of Peace), and active collaborationists like our current Dear Leader, into thinking that there exist, somewhere, islamofascists that really aren't all that bad. Nonsense. It's just a matter whether you murder our children before we get a chance to murder yours. Pretty simple.
Since your child-molesting, sandsucking prophet guy oozed out of the desert in the 600s, Islam has never, ever co-existed peacefully with another religion or culture. It either subjugates, eliminates, or is itself conquered. Sorry, no "third way."
As my dad once told me, the only "moderate" muslim is one who's just been punched in the mouth. So come and get it. I'll enjoy using you for target practice and feeding your guts to stray dogs.
Boar Hunter| 5.16.12 @ 4:14PM
Exactly.
No where, at no time, in the entire history of the world has this evil, vile "religion" ever been able to co-exsist with anyone.
Herb| 5.16.12 @ 4:10PM
Nuke Makkah Now!
Gary B| 5.16.12 @ 4:11PM
And we're supposed to trust you when you tell us this? Until you clean up your own mess, your credibility is zero.
Are you afraid of the radicals in your own religion? Join the crowd. What are you going to do about it? Play both sides against each other no doubt.
2Anglico| 5.16.12 @ 4:51PM
So, Johnny, you don't want to kill anybody but what is your opinion of Female Genital Mutilation? You know, that wonderful practice administered to the vast majority of Muslim women? And don't even try to say FGM is a fantasy or a myth, 95% of Egyptian women have been mutilated.
Religion of peace, LMAO!
John786| 5.16.12 @ 5:47PM
FMG has no basis in Islam. However, it exists as a cultural practice in many African communities both christain, Muslim. I would ban it. It is unknown both in theory and practice by the majority of the worlds Muslim population.
Boar Hunter| 5.16.12 @ 9:18PM
What a laughably idiotic thing to say.
To say that you are either an idiot or a liar would be silly as you are clearly both.
Mohammad is burning in hell and islam is of the devil.
Repent. Accept that belief in Jesus Christ is the only way to receive salvation from eternal damnation.
No? Good, I was hoping you would say that. Burn in hell you useless progeny of Lucifer.
backwoods| 5.16.12 @ 3:31PM
We have one islamist that is worse than that! Far, far worse, and he is still on the loose. Mostly undetected and causing great harm to our country. Worse by far than machime guns on the populace, nay even atomic weapons...Do you know him?
Gary B| 5.16.12 @ 4:12PM
Yup... and he's an expert with a Teleprompter.
Suzyqpie | 5.16.12 @ 7:17PM
Actually, he's an amateur who has access to the Fed Treasure.
Louis Jenkins| 5.16.12 @ 4:24PM
The whole thing comes off as a scene out of the Pink Panther. After France the USA will be next. And our president will classify it as workplace violence.
James Van Dorn| 5.16.12 @ 7:25PM
The French as usual are hiding their heads in the sand. The Muslim problem in France is going to EXPLODE with a viciousness that nobody is prepared for! Remember that Western France was already conquered by Muslims in the sixth century and is therefore Dar Al-Harb or land to be re-conquered by Islam. Eventually, as the Muslims get more violent and assertive of their "rights" France will have to cleanse the nation of ALL MUSLIMS. It will happen and it won't be all that long. If France doesn't expell the Muslim menace, an explosive CIVIL WAR will destroy the French as Muslims take over the country, install Sharia Law and either expell Frenchmen or kill them in the name of Allah
Refugee| 5.16.12 @ 10:46PM
The new prime minister Hollande received 93% of Muslim votes.
Je capitule - I give up
POST American| 5.17.12 @ 12:46AM
"---The Globalists are going to bring
in a form of socialism for the world
with a state corporate fascism running
things at the top. The NEO--cons are
NO such thing. They're just a bunch of
Trotskyists who realized
Marx was wrong, you CAN'T get rid of
religion, have now decided what that
religious components to be -----ISLAM.
An Islamic socialist world order --IS--
what they're working for.. Britain's been
in the process of overrrun ---since Thatcher.
Likewise the continent, Just during Obama's
Goldman Sacking adminstration, MILLIONS
upon MILLIONS of muslims have been
quietly settled across our midwest.
MAR MY WORDS ---this is what's
happening."
-Informed Radio online
FURTHER
"SO, in the next decade, as the debauched
'christian' churches turn government
promoters and worshippers and PC
pushers ----expect to see MASSSSSS
conversions to ISLAM across the West
--and even including Latin America
----the US ---and even, with time, RED
China, all with lots of nation and culture
wrecking destruction and chaos along the
way."
"Remember, ALLLLLL the rituals, hierarchies,
figures, modes and spiritual practices of
capstone Freemasonry (including the Jesuits etc)
---have NO place or grounding in scriptural,
genuine Christianity. ALLLLLLLL of it
(secret societies, cabals, magick, black ops,
assasinations, hidden masters) mirrors, and
may in fact be actually derived from ---ISLAM."
-----STILL AGAIN, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED----
Bob S| 5.17.12 @ 4:48AM
It's telling that the politician who most often went after Islamists in France is Sarkozy. Under Sarkozy, France initiated a burka ban in public places. But in an election year, Sarkozy didn't have the stones to put up a real effort against Islamists, and the French have shown they are perfectly content with digging their heads into the sand when they voted for a socialist who will sell the multiculturalism shtick to the French people and encourage them to embrace jihadists. And when the jihadists rear their ugly head, the French will throw up the white flag like they've always done. Napoleon made them real skittish about using any kind of force against enemies. They sat by and let the Nazis rape them, and their doing it again with the Islamists.
POST American| 5.17.12 @ 5:43AM
---CZAR-----COZY!---
Fascinating that even journals such as
this maintain perfect capstone lockstep
by NEVER drawing attention to the
KEY parallels at woprk down through
---HIS---story.
FACT IS
when major takedown and K--OZ
is in the air, the cabals set foreign
dupes to pose as leaders.
-------the 'Norman' CON--quest of Britain
-----------the Corsican Napoleon
----------------the X-pat, City of London
---------------------'CULL---tivated' ----Bolsheviks
-----------------the Georgian Stalin
--------------------the Austrian Hitler
Also, interesting foreign links with Franco,
Mussolini and the DeValera regime
in Ireland.
And NOW, the Hungarian murk op
---CZAR ( ----or shuold we say CALM--ME
CZAR) -------COZY.
And, of course, right here, the OFF-shore
at best ---'BAR--Rockefeller' H. Obama!
MOST UNUSUAL business ever, being
disguised as -------'Business as USUAL'.
AGAIN, NEVER SPOTLIGHTED
-----------------NEVER MENTIONED
---------------------------------------------EVER!!!
NOW, ----KEEP IT MOVING!
--------------The BILL Gates are within sight!
--------------------------------WORLDWIDE------------
Bob Smith | 5.17.12 @ 10:29AM
Would you wear a T-shirt with a Mohammad cartoon printed on it?
You might in Montana. Don’t try it in Mecca.
Why?
Because, Islam trains a small number of its most devout believers it’s OK to kill. And Islamic killers have been trained to kill anyone who insults Allah and/or Mohammad.
In Montana you’d have a good chance none of these Islamic killers would see you.
In Mecca you wouldn’t last five minutes. One of Islam’s killers would come from out of nowhere and kill you. It is that simple.
You don’t believe me? Ask any Muslim!
Read how Islam works at: http://islamsfatalflaw.blogspot.com/
markenoff| 5.17.12 @ 2:03PM
France has five terrorsit alert levels:
Ignore
Run
Hide
Surrender
Collaborate
Bill G| 5.18.12 @ 6:34AM
Do the French understand what the islamists would do to their vineyards and brandy distilleries?
Mistral| 5.18.12 @ 7:58AM
Hollande with his "raceless" tax and spend socialism should finally destroy France financially by 2015. At this point France will realise that the number of mohametens (including illegals or "sans papiers") is actually 20% of the population. In the meantime the liberal modernism of Rome has converted France into an atheist nation where only 4% of the 63% "catholic" population go to church at least once a month. Militancy is now with the mahomatens. Indigenous french women have been indoctrinated by years of depopulating abortive, contraceptive and sodomist politics, into absolute sterility. Mahomatens laugh because they know that by the wombs of their womenfolk they will take over in one to two generations time.
These are the rotting fruits of french masonry and neo-malthusianism (and effete post-conciliar catholicism) which have worked together to lead the nation to ultimate ruin.
Paul in France| 5.18.12 @ 2:05PM
Reading the comments here is ridiculous. Islam will never tak over France, try stopping French people eating pork or drinking wine?
"The French as usual are hiding their heads in the sand. "
Funny, but in France we think the same way about the US, up to its eyeballs in debt, addicted to gas and ME wars to get said gas, gangs, drugs, and an economy gone south years ago which is never coming back, and not one mainstream politician who will point it out.
I know lots of Muslims and not one espouses Jihad. AQ are crackpots, allbeit dangerous crackpots. Something the article didn't mention was that 2 of the soldiers Merah killed where Muslims themselves. There are many more integrated Muslims who prefer the secularism of the West.