Here’s a story that may help New York Times columnist
Gail Collins get over her obsession with the incident of Mitt
Romney and the dog on the car.
In 1996, two years after Romney had returned to Bain Capital
after running unsuccessfully against Ted Kennedy for Senate, Robert
Gay, a partner at Bain, came to him and confided that his
14-year-old daughter Melissa was missing. She had sneaked out of
their Connecticut home three days before, gone to a rock concert in
New York City and hadn’t been heard from since.
Gay was embarrassed about confessing his dilemma and didn’t
expect anything more than a little commiseration. Instead, he was
amazed at Romney’s reaction. The co-founder of Bain immediately
informed the other partners of the situation, then closed down the
firm and mobilized a temporary move to New York City to search for
the girl. As the New York Times reported it at the
time:
Bain Capitals Partners closed down the firm and drew on
friendships and connections to find volunteers for the search. R.R.
Donnelly, the firm’s printer, printed more than 300,000 fliers
bearing Ms. Gay’s picture and last known whereabouts. Duane Reade,
a drugstore chain in which Bain Capital is an investor, had clerks
at 52 stores insert fliers in shopping bags. Price Waterhouse,
which does the firm’s accounting, sent nearly 100 volunteers to
distribute the powers, and Goldman Sachs, Bankers Trust and Morgan
Stanley dispatched more than 60 people.
Command centers to dispatch volunteers and get in touch with the
press were set up at the Marriott Hotel and La Guardia Airport, the
Connelly offices and the Pierre Hotel in Manhattan. Volunteers with
cellular phones fanned out to clubs like the Limelight and the
Tunnel, the Lollapalooza concert at Downing Stadium on Randall’s
Island, parties in Tompkins Square and Central Park, to Madison
Square Garden and the Port Authority.
The Boston Globe, which covered the story day-to-day,
filed the following report:
Yesterday, in their first day of searching, [Bain Executives]
pounded the pavement, plastering the city with 300,000 fliers and
quizzed teen-agers at concerts and parks.
But as of last night, Melissa Gay was nowhere to be found.
“Our children are what life is all about,” said W. Mitt Romney,
founder and managing partner at Bain Capital. “Everything else
takes a back seat.”
Six days later, the Marriott Hotline received an anonymous call
from a teenage boy asking if there was a reward for the missing
girl. The caller immediately hung up but police traced it to a
house in Towaco, New Jersey. As the Globe reported:
[A]fter attending a rave concert on Randall’s Island… she took
the drug Ecstasy and then “wandered the city.” During her
wandering, her father said, she met a young man who took her to his
parents’ [New Jersey] home. The young man, whose name was not
released, kept her in the home without his parents’ knowledge, the
police said.
Melissa was discovered hidden in the basement, still recovering
from an overdose and shivering through detoxification. Doctors said
later that had she not been found, she might not have lived another
day.
Six months later, in a end-of-year review, the Globe
again revisited the story:
Last week, the partners of Boston’s Bain Capital Inc. drew up
their annual list of accomplishments: Number one was the week they
spent last July combing Manhattan in search of Melissa Gay, the
missing 14-year-old daughter of one of the partners.
“It really overshadowed everything we did from a money
standpoint,” said Mitt Romney, the Bain Capital founder who won the
1994 Massachusetts Republican Senate nomination partly on his
reputation as a venture capital wiz. “The days and nights spent
looking for Missy Gay were more valuable than some financial home
runs that made the front page of the Wall Street Journal. I mean,
money is just money.”
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 6:29AM
" Gingrich: Conservatives Won't Let Wall St. And Romney "Buy Election"
"Look, the conservative movement is not going to sit by and let a Massachusetts liberal, who's pro-abortion, pro-gun control, pro-tax increase, pro-gay rights, whose Romneycare in two articles in the last 24 hours were described as the equivalent of Obamacare and who George Soros says is just fine. He'd be happy with either Obama or Romney [be]cause they are both the establishment -- that's just George Soros," Newt Gingrich told FOX News' Bret Baier on the campaign trail in Tampa, Florida.
"Now, the conservative movement isn't going to sit back and say 'Oh yes, let's let Wall Street, and Goldman Sachs and Mitt Romney buy the election. So you're going to see a real grass roots fight. It will be people power vs. Goldman Sachs and Mitt Romney," he added."
chuck| 5.8.12 @ 7:39AM
So you'll be voting for Obama then.
Dick Nome| 5.8.12 @ 8:39AM
...and Casey.
Mickey| 5.8.12 @ 9:19AM
Is Klinty old enough to vote?
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 4:34PM
You Talk Like You're Light In Your Loafers, Little Micky.
spike59| 5.9.12 @ 6:13AM
Widdle Cwint isn't voting, unless they move the local precinct to his mommy's basement
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 4:37PM
I 'm Voteing For Tom Smith, Israel Firster Smear Bund BibiBot,Little Dick.
But Then,You Already Knew That, Serial Israel Firster Liar, Little Dick.
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 9:37AM
This is the attitude of the owner of the website the Free Republic and a lot of his followers (most of them are just anti-Mormon bigots and that is the real reason they are against Romney). They constantly post anti-Romney articles even though the vetting for the GOP candidate is over. The reality is that are only two choices: Obama and Romney. Take you pick. Attacking the only alternative to Obama is not helpful to ousting Obama.
Scorpio51| 5.8.12 @ 10:05AM
Anti-Mormon bigots? Maybe you should Google Park Romney and see what you find.
And you are sadly mistaken that the vetting process is over. Just wait until the DNC gets their turn going after Romney. It won't be pretty and the media will help Obama all day long.
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 10:53AM
I can assure you that the vetting process for the GOP candidate is OVER. DONE. Bashing Romney now is counterproductive. Sadley, a lot of the anti-Romney crowd is really just anti-Mormon. All you have to do is go on Free Republic and it is very plain to see.
Larry| 5.8.12 @ 1:30PM
No Carl, the Anti-Mormon boogieman is played now by Mormons and Romneyites with all the fervor and fecklessness that Sharpton plays the race card ... please give it a rest.
Conservatives are going to continue to press the presumptive nominee not in order to vet him ... but demand that he follow through on his word.
His conservatism was clearly little more than posture ... but that is, non-the-less, what he fashioned himself as. So we're here to hold his feet to the fire. To remind him we're not fools bought with a few cheap lines ... and to remind him that 4 years passes fast.
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 4:51PM
You are not very observant if you don't see the anti-Mormon zealots who post all these anti-Romney posts (they post anti-Mormon ones too). They almost always bring up his religion. I have no problem holding his feet to the fire after he gets elected to ensure he governs as conservatives want him to, but to continue to post negative articles and posts on our GOP candidate (he is the candidate) and try to make him look bad when he is our only alternative to Obama does not make sense. And I can clearly see the religous bigotry from many who are anti-Romney. You don't have to be a Mormon to see it.
Scorpio51| 5.8.12 @ 5:42PM
Carl you are wearing blinders Romney is NOT the nominee, but good for you for being a great Republican and falling in line with the rest of the sheep.
spike59| 5.9.12 @ 6:15AM
if not Romney, then WHO?
Scorpio51| 5.8.12 @ 5:39PM
The vetting process is OVER?? I didn't hear any answers by Romney about his work at Bain; his Governorship; nor his religion.
Do you Carl know everything there is about Mormonism? I can't believe you do and believe everything is hunky dory. I don't rely on websites to form an opinion. I do the research.
spike59| 5.9.12 @ 6:17AM
if you haven't heard Romney's answers about Bain and his tenure as Governor, the fault is yours alone for NOT LISTENING; as for his religion, there's nothing for which he has to answer. perhaps you've never heard of this document called 'the Constitution' in which it states that there shall be no religious test for any candidate for public office?
Lyneuss Fields | 5.8.12 @ 10:28PM
Robert Gay, the Bain partner with the missing daughter and the subject of this article, is a General Authority for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I'm sure the author of this pulp, schmooze job simply forgot to mention that in his suck-up tribute to these Mormon freaks.
http://lyneussfields.blogspot......gious.html
max_kain| 5.9.12 @ 8:49PM
Thanks for proving the original author's point. Whether or not Robert Gay was a member of the LDS church of not is really irrelevant and I think the thousands that have been helped by Mormon Helping Hands in hurricanes, floods, and other natural disasters. You have a personal axe to grind and show yourself as a hateful bigot.
Lyneuss Fields | 5.9.12 @ 9:58PM
You betcha! I've never liked thieves, molesters and murders. If that makes me a bigot, i'm on board with that one.
http://lyneussfields.blogspot......adows.html
max_kain| 5.10.12 @ 2:46PM
You're such a disingenuous tool. Using your standard I could easily point at just about every religion in the world because some practitioners were guilty of some problem that is by far and large not representative of the majority of the rest of their congregation. Take a look at Methodists, they were known for singling out LDS members in the 1800's and killing those who they couldn't run off. I think it's more telling that you're not just and ignorant bigot, but proud of it.
Lyneuss Fields | 5.10.12 @ 6:55PM
Members of Mormonism’s Priesthood, as a group, have been robbing and molesting non-believers for almost two centuries—particularly in the state of Utah. The 120 people murdered at Mountain Meadows in 1859 are a reminder of their hateful atrocities in Cedar City. Personally, I was a victim of Mormon abuse (see Mitt Romney and the Mountain Meadows Massacre) 110 years later in 1967. Mormons started wars during the 19th century with Illinois and Missouri citizens. The United States sent troops into Utah Territory to quill Brigham Young and his abuse of United States citizens. But most importantly, especially for bonehead zealots like you, the murder, rape, extortion by Joseph Smith Jr., Brigham Young and crew is all documented by their own historians (e.g., B.H. Roberts) in Mormonism’s Journal of Discourses and Comprehensive History. Therefore, you and your Mormon apologists will no longer perpetrate your ruse on the American people.
http://lyneussfields.blogspot......chine.html
max_kain| 5.10.12 @ 9:24PM
You point out the Mountain Meadows but you conveniently leave out the constant atrocities committed against members of the LDS church in the early days by members of other churches as well as state and federal authorities which would have lead to a hyper sensitivity by members of the church. There have been murderers and theft and other abuses by members of the clergy of just about every major religion in the world. People are not perfect and I have met great members of the LDS church and members that I would hesitate to slow down if I saw them crossing the road in front of me but I do not hold the church to blame for some of it's members. I don't hold the Catholic church to blame because of it's scandals or Baptists because of their religious intolerance to any other religion or because they tend to make up the majority of the KKK. Even as much as I personally disapprove of Islam, I still have a good many Muslim friends and would not condemn them because of the religion. You however have gone out of your way to lump ALL LDS members in as "murders, rapists, and thieves", not just a few bad apples, all of them. Your own words: dangers to the people of the US. You, like many of the anti-LDS crowd, are an extremist, the likes of which would make the Taliban proud. It's not enough that you had a bad experience but you would even go so far as to prevent someone from practicing their God given right to worship according to their own conscience. I doubt even the hard-line Baptists that bus into Salt Lake City to "condemn and convert" every spring would actively prevent someone from going to worship, but your writings show nothing but someone intolerant to their own way of thinking and system of beliefs. What's more, you don't even respect the United States (your words again) because the government won't go counter to the Constitution and declare a religion illegal so you aren't even here to discuss Romney's qualifications or lack thereof, just to bash his religion any chance you get. So what would you have had the government do anyhow? March troops in to Utah? Declare martial law and arrest any Mormons in the US? Have them "re-educated"? Forget I ask, I'm sure it would probably resemble something like Hitler's concentration camps.
Lyneuss Fields | 5.10.12 @ 10:09PM
Transparency will expose Mormon crimes against humanity (in their own words). Exposure will assure The Mormon Church (including Mitt Romney) can't hide those crimes against 19th and 20th century Americans or commit crimes against anyone else in the 21century.
Oldefarte| 5.8.12 @ 12:04PM
"Voting for Obama"???? He WORKS for him!!!! His paycheck comes from Media Matters which has a desk inside the Oval Office!!!!!
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 4:40PM
All The Israel Firster Smear Bund Liars Are In The Building.
We Are Being Set Up By The Israel Firster RINO-CINO Agendists For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.
These Are The RINO-CINO Israel Firster Agendists, Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.
Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....
spike59| 5.9.12 @ 6:19AM
still working the 'cut&paste; for dummies' schtick, widdle cwint? i guess it beats actually thinking
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 4:30PM
Nah.
But You Already Knew That Little Chuckie, Smear Bund Buffoon.
Alan Brooks| 5.9.12 @ 12:31AM
Well, you guys have rejected a third party.
Alan Brooks| 5.9.12 @ 12:35AM
Not, you, Clint, these Republicans who want to throw good money after 2nd rate Republicans.
Tell them: run a 1st rate candidate, or will go for the nuclear option of voting Dem. If these bunglers had run a real statesman in '88, we'd at least have been spared 12 years of Sununu and Rove.
Clinton did better than Sununu-Rove, and I'm hoping Obama will too. If not, if it goes bad, then you can flog me with a wet noodle.
Vern Crisler| 5.8.12 @ 10:23AM
This is the problem with Romney's defenders. They think heart-warming stories about Romney's concern for his family or his friends somehow proves that he'll pursue conservative policies once in office. The naivete of sunshine conservatives always ceases to amaze me.
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 11:07AM
LOL. This may come as a shock to you, but everyone knows that Romney is not a solid conservative. What we do know is that Obama is a Marxist and the only viable person who is running against Obama is Romney. Therefore, everything you said is not relevant. We have to vote for one of those two. We are going to get one of them. Conservatives would rather have Romney over Obama. Is it clear now?
Vern Crisler| 5.8.12 @ 12:35PM
Well, you and your compromising ilk nominated this empty suit; now get him elected.
Mickey| 5.8.12 @ 1:04PM
We will elect Romney while you sunshine conservatives sit out the battle because your candidate lost.
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 4:53PM
I did not nominate anyone and he was last on my list as a candidate (although they were all not up to par IMO). However, I do now know he is the candidate and he is the only choice we have. The choosing is over folks for this election cycle. Get over it.
Scorpio51| 5.8.12 @ 5:44PM
Telling other people to "get over it" doesn't work.
Just wait until August and see what happens at the convention. We conservatives won't allow Romney the nomination.
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 8:53PM
That is a funny one. You a Ron Paul freak or what?
spike59| 5.9.12 @ 6:21AM
'we conservatives?' that's a laugh-the GOP primary voters have REJECTED the rest of the pack-time to grow up and end your little hissy fit
JmsA| 5.8.12 @ 12:03PM
Vote for Obama then.
JmsA| 5.8.12 @ 12:23PM
As I wrote below, vote for Obama; you seem to be chomping at the bit to do so, Vern.
chalkdust| 5.8.12 @ 12:30PM
"Sunshine Conservatives" denotes someone who is conservatives when it suits his/her purpose, but when the going gets tough, they either change their minds or run and hide. "Naiveté" denote personalties who are gullible or easily fooled. Is this what really amazes you Mr. Crisler, because what amazes me is the distinct possibility that you do not know even one Conservative, or you are stupid.
I have known thousands of Conservatives and as a group, they are generally well informed,continuous,augmentative and unwilling to run from a fight. So Mr. Crisler, you force me to pick stupid.
Vern Crisler| 5.8.12 @ 12:34PM
A sunshine conservative is one who would rather compromise with the enemy rather than go through the pain of the political equivalent of Valley Forge (four more years of Obama).
Chalkdust| 5.8.12 @ 1:04PM
Mr. Crisler:
It has been said many times politic is the art of compromise. I didn't get my favorite candidate either, but I can find qualities to like about Romney......I find no redeeming qualities about Barry obama to like..
spike59| 5.9.12 @ 6:24AM
4 more years of Obama WON'T be the 'political equivalent of Valley Forge'...it will be the economic equivalent of Nagasaki
like it or not, the choice is clear; vote Republican this fall, or help ObaMao get re-elected-there's NO 'middle ground' or 'alternative'
Appleby| 5.8.12 @ 6:39AM
That's a Mormon reaction; for all their bizarre theology, the one thing nobody can deny is that when help is needed the Mormons turn out for their own. It used to be said that no Mormon in good standing was on welfare; the community took care of their immediate needs and discussed the reasons with the family that they had fallen on hard times -- and helped them get back on their feet as quickly as possible. People were not, in other words, a number on a tally sheet in a government office 1,000 miles from them; they were Brother and Sister Jones and their children who lived on Hunter Street and were suffering because a child was ill, a parent had lost his job, or who was otherwise suffering an identifiable problem.
There is something Victorian about this, and if it's still commonplace in the Mormon congregations, it ought to get big play by the Romney organization. But it won't; they will keep on bleating about Romney and his dog.
Jack in Wi.| 5.8.12 @ 6:51AM
One Candidate is for dog food for the poor and the other one eats dog meat. We have a choice for President. I once jumped in traffic and saved the life of a 2 year old girl. Should I be elected President? Romney could do all the charity in the world and it still wouldn't change the fact that he is a liberal who would do nothing that would make the country a better place. His whole political career is evidence of that.
Mickey| 5.8.12 @ 7:32AM
The Odd Couple: Klint/Jack.
Barky K9 | 5.8.12 @ 7:36AM
Romney is a good man, so all you liberals go back to Move-On.Org if you want to bash him. He's our one hope to defeat the Marxist Muslim.
Quit pretending to be conservatives...If you're for Obama YOU'RE A MARXIST LIKE HIM !!
Jack in Wi.| 5.8.12 @ 7:42AM
I voted for the Republican nominee for President in the last 12 elections. In all those elections there wasn't much good to chose from. It is worse in this election with Romney as the nominee. I think he is even worse then McCain.
David W| 5.8.12 @ 8:20AM
At least it looks like Romney will fight inthis election, McCain sure as heck didn't in 2008.
bull-gator| 5.8.12 @ 9:05AM
McCain was the worst republican candidate ever . He didn't want the job, he just liked all the attention. Another narcisstic politician.
Chalkdust| 5.8.12 @ 12:41PM
bull-gator: You're dead wrong, Robert Dole was even worse than John (Big RINO) McCain. George H. W. Bush holds third place.
JmsA| 5.8.12 @ 12:01PM
Who cares who you voted for. Vote for Obama and quit your bitching already.
JmsA| 5.8.12 @ 12:17PM
Who gives a crap about what you think. Shut up already and vote for Obama.
spike59| 5.9.12 @ 6:25AM
ObaMao is grateful for your assistance, you troll
Larry| 5.8.12 @ 7:48AM
I'm not a part of Move-On Barky (that was terrifically goofy). I'm a thirty year conservative deeply disappointed by the manner in which a highly unethical politician (Romney) colluded with a cabal of highly unethical politicians (the GOP Establishment) to undermine Conservatives and seize the power they've squandered since Reagan left office.
From the "kinder and gentler nation" to "compassionate conservatism" the Establishment has betrayed its grasping lust for power, their disdain of both conservatism and conservatives.
Romney is merely another in a long line of Big Government Republicans whose barely concealed contempt for conservatives bubbles to the surface in both his choices and unscripted remarks.
Your remarks betray your ignorance of conservatism ... in other words Barky ... you're out of your depth here.
JayDick| 5.8.12 @ 8:05AM
Whine all you want. All we need is for you to vote for Romney in November. Unless, of course, you prefer Obama.
Larry| 5.8.12 @ 8:26AM
Well, Jay ... your remarks suggest that you lack both prudence and good manners. You are apparently not merely satisfied with Mitt but elated by his approaching nomination.
That locates you rather quickly ... no need to attempt an intelligent conversation regarding conservatism. You're the Republican equivalent of the innumerable, unthinking Democrats who hailed the nomination of Obama. They simply couldn't be bothered by facts.
So on to something less abstract than politcal philosophy. If you wish for conservatives to vote for Romney then try ... this could be difficult I know ... but try to keep your rudeness in check.
You see, it not only betrays a rather cavernous void with regard to critical thought ... but it may well persuade just enough conservatives to remain home on election day.
BTW, that'll be the fault of Romney, the Establishment and unthinking chaps like you ... and no one else.
You see, by nature, Conservatives vote for something rather than simply against something. In this election (again, because of chaps like you) we're left merely voting against Obama rather than for Romney.
So, once again, see if you can keep ignorant slurs in check. Your champion, Romney, ran the most thuggish and unethical Republican campaign I've witnessed in thirty years of close observation. He's made a lot of enemies ... don't provoke them.
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 8:35AM
Tell me exactly what was unethical? Sounds like sour grapes on your part your guy did not win.
Larry| 5.8.12 @ 8:55AM
Todd, or shall I call you Rip Van Winkle as it appears you've been asleep for sometime ... or was your head simply buried in the sand.
Did you hear nothing of the manner in which Romney ran against his opponents? Nothing of the serial misrepresentation and slander he offered in place substantive proposals and rebuttals? Nothing of the complete rewrite of his politcal record? Nothing of the near reflexive and frequent nature of his lying?
Florida alone is enough to condemn him ... sadly though, it was merely one instance in a long succession.
This of course is classic Romney. He was simply labeled a "phoney" by his Republican opponents in 2008 as they observed the continual stream of lies that flowed like water from Team Romney.
That was precisely what occurred as he ran for governor 8 years earlier. Romney doesn't sell himself, when he has he's fallen short. He campaigns against his opponents ... a last man standing strategy.
He wins by driving down turnout. That's not a winner Todd ... perhaps that's why Mitt has won only one election out of three ... and why his single term as governor was dismal enough to convince voters NOT to return him to office.
Do your homework Todd ... or don't. It's a bit late now. Romney's inflicted himself on the Party now (well, he and the Establishment) so there's little choice but vote for this most unqualified and unethical man.
But understand the difference between sour grapes and legitimate concerns over the welfare of our nation.
The GOP is swiftly proving that it is an untrustworthy steward of power and our nations future. Conservatives are weary of handing power over to them only to see them govern slightly to the right of far Left.
Mickey| 5.8.12 @ 9:21AM
The voters selected Romney. End of story.
All the candidates ran negative ads.
spike59| 5.9.12 @ 6:27AM
"but he beat my 'knight in shining armor! it's not...FAYURRRRRRR...."
these dweebs are sounding more and more like Occuturds with each post
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 9:42AM
Even if everything you say is true, and I actually agree with a lot of it and agree that Romney is not a great conservative candidate or my favorite choice for the GOP candidate, you still must realize that there are only two choices for president. Everything else is IRRELEVANT. Constantly complaining about Romney does nothing. Abosolutely nothing. The election will go on and there are only two choices, there are only two choices, there are only two choices ...
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 10:00AM
All I heard there was a bunch of whining with nothing substantial. Fact is none of the candidates stepped up to the plate and made themselves a better option to the voters. The worst attack of the election came from Newt and you know what I am talking about. Primaries are about turnout if you don't realize. The establishment was ready to support Rick Perry if he did not fall on his face but he did and Newt has burned his fair share of bridges and would never had a chance to win the election. Santorum does not come across as especially likable and his focus on social conservatism is not what many voters are looking for this election. Who exactly was the candidate that you wanted to win?
What exactly is it that makes Romney unqualified? That you don't like him or his record? Do you really believe there is only a slight difference between Romney and Obama? That is a ridiculous statement, we are talking about a hard line Marxist who will not hold back on anything if he gets a second term.
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 10:56AM
Well said. None of the candidates were ideal conservatives. I also got a big laugh out of all the people who thought Sara Palin would run (I knew she would not). We never get a solid conservative candidate, but that is nothing new. I will take Romney over a Marxist Obama every day of the week.
JmsA| 5.8.12 @ 12:12PM
Good post, Todd S, though I fear it will only fall in deaf ears, as it were, for Romney doesn't fit their notion of a perfect conservative candidate. These losers will be perfectly content with four more years of Obama as long as Romney doesn't win.
Larry| 5.8.12 @ 1:33PM
Todd, your post lacks only facts and sound logic ... otherwise its a winner. Bravo.
spike59| 5.9.12 @ 6:29AM
spoken lie a true Stealth Obamarrhoid troll
Boar Hunter| 5.8.12 @ 11:36AM
Larry. Your wasting your breath.
Your arguing with the Romney version of the Ron Paul fanatic.
This ha ha, now you "have to" vote for Romney cause there's no other choice brigade is the reason these cowards in the Republican party establishment keep getting away with the candidates they do.
Maybe someone can explain to me why George Soros supports Mitt Romney?
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 11:49AM
George Soros does not support Romney. He said that there will not be much difference between the two, but I think he knows that it not true. He meant that Romney was the most moderate of the GOP candidates and it he had to live with one, then Romney would be who he had to live with over the more conservative candidates. Soros is for Obama. I can guarantee you that.
Scorpio51| 5.8.12 @ 5:50PM
Soros may be for Obama, but he did say there wasn't much difference between the two.
Romney is a progressive, end of story.
spike59| 5.9.12 @ 6:30AM
another 'genius' who's been played by a Soros feint; go join OWS; they can always use another gullible useful idiot
JmsA| 5.8.12 @ 12:09PM
If you don't like Romney, vote for Obama. It's not complicated. Stop trying to convince others to vote for four more years of Obama. Losers and defeatists, that's all your "perfect" conservatives are.
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 12:10PM
You can take George Soros at face value is that what you are saying? I think he is messing with people like you so they have an excuse not to vote against Obama, he is the rather devious sort to try that. You have to be quite gullible to take that at face value, I think that explains it.
I was ready to support Rick Perry but he was not up to it unfortunately. Newt is Newt and Santorum got destroyed in his last election so there is a good reason the establishment did not throw there support behind either of them because they would have no chance.
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 12:13PM
That was for Boar Hunter.
W| 5.8.12 @ 1:41PM
Todd
I liked Perry until I saw him in the debates where he was not prepared.
For anyone dealing with reality there is no question that you vote for Romney over Obama. If anyone seriously and honestly believes there is no difference between Romney and Obama then it is a waste of time trying to reason with them.
Just on a personal level of who is a more decent, patriotic American, without exaiming their politics, there is no doubt that Romney is better. And a person's personal life does reflect on his politics. Obama hangs around terrorrists like Ayers, poets like Common who praise cop killers (Shakur) who escaped to Cuba, anti semitic racists like Wright, and has never had a real private sector job.
The other complaint here is that Romney will not eliminate or reduce the nanny state. With a Republican Congress he will deal with the deficit, allow for oi/gas drilling, and keep the Bush tax cuts, and repeal Obamacare. I can guarantee that Obama will do none of these and will further increase the nanny state. Ronald Reagan, the standard to which measure our candidates, did not eliminate one Cabinet or agency. He cut taxes to grow the economy and beat the Soviets.
In 1976 conservatives did not support Ford. He barely lost to Carter. Carter gave us the Dept of Energy and Dept of Education, the two Cabinet depts that every conservative says we must eliminate. We would not have either if we elected Ford instead of Carter. Carter also gave us the Community Investment Act that was expanded by Bubba, which led to the housing crash.
As bad as McCain was as a Senator, he would have been infinetely better than Obama as president.
JmsA| 5.8.12 @ 12:16PM
Vote for Obama then. No one is stopping you, BH.
JmsA| 5.8.12 @ 12:15PM
Keep it simple, Larry. Just vote for Obama, you seem perfectly disposed to do so.
Larry| 5.8.12 @ 1:34PM
JMSA ... so reading comprehension and critical thinking aren't among your strengths, eh?
JFC1068| 5.8.12 @ 1:05PM
Larry,
Only people like you see playing a persons words back to them to be an attack.
If someone does not want to take responsibility for their words, then they should not utter them in the first place.
And finally, as has been written before, You have TWO choices. Obama or Romney. Anything but a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama.
Larry| 5.8.12 @ 1:36PM
JFC1068 ... I see you find lies believable as long as they're uttered by the candidate you favor. Romney has attracted those republicans who differ least from their counterparts among the Left.
Facts, objectivity and critical thinking are unimportant when you have script, eh?
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 8:35AM
Tell me exactly what was unethical? Sounds like sour grapes on your part your guy did not win.
Cpl. Punishment| 5.8.12 @ 3:56PM
You folks really should look into Romney's record on your own and not rely on either the MSM or opinion sites to tell you the truth. Look at what he did as Governor of MA. Look at what he actually proposed for MA HealthCare (hint, it is not at all like what MA has today or Obamacare). In a solidly Dem state he balanced the budget without raising taxes. That was never done before and has not been done again. What you know about Romney is not the truth but lib/dem attacks and sour grapes from those that wanted someone else.
Granted I wanted someone else but after that didn't pan out I decided to look into Romney's real record. I am more than satisfied that he will be a far, far better President than Gingrich.
JayDick| 5.8.12 @ 5:27PM
Wow. You found all of that in a few simple sentences. That's quite a talent, especially since none of what you say is there.
Since you're too obtuse to see the obvious, let me spell it out for you. The candidates are Romney and Obama. Come November, you have three choices, Romney, Obama, or don't vote. You can say all you want about Romney (I too would have preferred someone else), but it doesn't change the available choices.
If you don't vote, you are effectively voting for Obama. If you want to discuss conservative principles, there is probably a better thread in which to do so; this one is about the November election.
BTW, I am an old codger who was probably espousing conservative principles before you were born. Don't lecture me about conservatism when you have no idea where I stand on anything other than the November election.
loulou| 5.8.12 @ 12:19PM
JayDick: Stop it. You're not going to shame anyone into voting for Romney.
The establishment was warned--conservatives do not like Romney. The result of the GOP nominating a moderate RINO is that many conservatives will not be able to bring themselves to vote for Romney. This is what happens when you run roughshod over the base.
RCV| 5.8.12 @ 2:14PM
Loulou: Romney won the bulk of the primaries. How is that "running roughshod over the base"? If the base had coalesced around and voted for a more conservative nominee, that person would have won. Why blame others for that failure?
Butch| 5.8.12 @ 2:33PM
Some of us have not voted yet, RCV, and the issue is already decided, and decided largely in states the GOP is certain to lose in November. If state primaries were held in states in order of GOP success in 2008, the current situation might have been different. What differences do the GOP presidential preferences in NY and MA make?
RCV| 5.8.12 @ 5:26PM
The order of primaries was set up long before the current contest, and influenced by a whole lot of factors, historical and otherwise. They weren't set up to target any particular candidate, and they're the same rules everybody has to play by. Stop making excuses for your side's failures.
JayDick| 5.8.12 @ 5:28PM
Mr. Obama thanks you, loulou.
Harry the Horrible| 5.8.12 @ 9:47AM
Unethical?
So what do you think of Obama and his puppeteers?
Perhaps " Evil" comes to mind?
(When I think about the GOP and its leadership, "stupid" usually comes to mind well before "unethical.")
Scorpio51| 5.8.12 @ 10:08AM
Great post Larry! I agree.
DTOM!| 5.8.12 @ 10:21AM
The lesson we need to learn is being taught in Indiana, today. Soon2BX Senator Lugar (RINO-IN) is being demolished by a single Tea Party candidate. In the last Senatorial election - a series of Tea Party candidates split the vote, leaving the RINO in place. Much like the recently terminated Presidential primary. (Ron Paul note: Doc, It's over! Go home!)
I don't think the lesson will be lost...
JmsA| 5.8.12 @ 12:02PM
Shut up already and vote for Obama.
skip| 5.8.12 @ 12:19PM
Larry,
Reality versus fantasy. I want negative campaigns. Voters become better informed about the candidates and their positions this way more so than the other. Politicians and government are necessary evils. Let's see it in all it's gory.
Larry| 5.8.12 @ 1:38PM
You do realize the difference between a negative campaign and a deceitful yes? Apparently not.
skip| 5.8.12 @ 7:00PM
Apparently it is more relevant to wonder if you realize the difference between a point being made and a non sequitur.
Voters become better informed about the candidates and their positions - including deceitness - through negative campaigns rather than the other.
JmsA| 5.8.12 @ 12:19PM
Thank you, Barky K9. You hit it on the nail. These are just a bunch of whining defeatists.
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 4:59PM
" Santorum: Might As Well Have Obama Over Romney
Presidential candidate Rick Santorum said Republicans should give President Barack Obama another term if Santorum isn't the GOP nominee and for a second day compared rival Mitt Romney to an Etch A Sketch toy.
Santorum reiterated an argument he has made before: The former Massachusetts governor is not conservative enough to offer voters a clear choice in the fall election and that only he can provide that contrast.
"You win by giving people a choice," Santorum said during a campaign stop in Texas. "You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who's just going to be a little different than the person in there."
Santorum added: "If they're going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk of what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate for the future."
Santorum was referencing Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom's comment Wednesday that "everything changes" for the fall campaign. "It's almost like an Etch A Sketch,"
Mickey| 5.8.12 @ 6:38PM
You voted for Casey to beat Santorum so why you pretending to like Santorum?
You brag here you helped defeat Ricky, remember, you idiot>
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 10:14PM
That's A Lie, Israel Firster Smear Bund Liar, Little Micky.
I Never Voted For The Democrap, Cassey Or His Old Man.
But Then, You Already Knew That, Israel Firster Smear Bund Goebbels Propaganda Coward Liar, Little Micky.
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 4:28PM
Bibi's Towel Boy, Little Micky.
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 4:41PM
Bibi's Towel Boy, Little Micky.
Mickey| 5.8.12 @ 6:39PM
You still obsessed with Bibi, loser Klinty?
Go play with your Ron Paul blow up doll.
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 10:18PM
Bibi Towel Boy, Little Micky Can't Seem To Handle The Esposure.
We Got Your Number Bibi Towel Boy Israel Firster Smear Bund Liar, Little Micky.
spike59| 5.9.12 @ 6:33AM
Widdle Cwint doesn't have the RP blow-up doll anymore; he forgot the 'no teeth' rule one day, and next thing you know, there was an enormous fart and the doll flew out the window with a tear in its crotch
chuck| 5.8.12 @ 7:42AM
Jack in Wi..............liberal troll.
Nice liberal talking point, "dog food for the poor".
loulou| 5.8.12 @ 12:20PM
Jacksh*t is not quite a liberal troll. I'd call him a Muslim/Demjanjuk loving troll.
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 4:43PM
All The Israel Firster Smear Bund Liars Are In The Building.
We Are Being Set Up By The Israel Firster RINO-CINO Agendists For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.
These Are The RINO-CINO Israel Firster Agendists, Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.
Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....
Mickey| 5.8.12 @ 6:40PM
Is Klinty now Jack?
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 10:20PM
Is Bibi's Towel Boy, Little Micky Runnin' Out Of Lies.
spike59| 5.9.12 @ 6:35AM
Cwint, the Klavern called; you're late, and it's your turn to bring the Cheetos
Stewed_tomatoes| 5.8.12 @ 7:58AM
But at least the poor will have a thick shiny coat. I would prefer to be poor and eating dog food in a free country than poor and eating grass in Obama's totalitarian Dreamland.
ggoblue| 5.8.12 @ 8:08AM
you sir, are full of crap. mr romney would not veto the legislation of his own party, and make no mistake, the republican party will be in control of both houses of congress next january. the house has passed the ryan budget repeatedly and mr romney would certainly sign it.
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 10:03AM
Jack is Palestinian loving Jew hating moron who thinks Ron Paul is the second coming of George Washington.
RCV| 5.8.12 @ 2:16PM
Have to agree with you on that one, Todd
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 3:17PM
It was a bit harsh to call you a hypocrite the other day, we may have our disagreements but you seem to be a decent honest person regardless. I do think you went overboard with your criticism so I call it a washout. We can agree that Jack is a moron and that Israel has a moral right to protect themselves against their aggressors.
RCV| 5.8.12 @ 5:28PM
Deal. I enjoy our discussions. A little heat now and then doesn't change that.
spike59| 5.9.12 @ 6:36AM
don't use the words 'coming' and "ron paul" in the same sentence; it makes Jaqueline in WI and Widdle Cwint get all 'swoony' in the knees
Doctor Right| 5.8.12 @ 11:40AM
You are SUCH an insufferable bore...
Oldefarte| 5.8.12 @ 12:07PM
Father Ron once PROBABLY saved a woman by performing a pap-smear on her inside a military airplane, as Clint claims him to be a FLIGHT SURGEON!!!!!!!!!!!
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 4:47PM
Interesting, How These Israel Firster Smear Bund Traitor Bastards Badmouth American Military Officers.
" Dr. Ron Paul served in the United States Air Force as a flight surgeon for several years (1963-1965). While in the air force, Paul reached the rank of Captain. Directly after his service in the air force, Paul worked again as a flight surgeon for the United States Air National Guard (1965-1968).
" Paul served as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force in the 1960s, spending time on the ground in countries like Ethiopia, Iran, Pakistan, South Korea, and Turkey. He also sits on the House Committee on Foreign Affairs."
Tommix| 5.8.12 @ 8:32AM
This response is older than the Victorian era by about 1800 years,
"He told them this parable. "Which of you men, if you had one hundred sheep, and lost one of them, wouldn't leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one that was lost, until he found it? When he has found it, he carries it on his shoulders, rejoicing. When he comes home, he calls together his friends and his neighbors, saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!' I tell you that even so there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents, than over ninety-nine righteous people who need no repentance."
Von Mises Jr| 5.8.12 @ 9:36AM
Appleby, the leftist would have done the right thing. They would have confiscated the Kock Brothers profits and gave it to the police to buy donuts to go with the fliers that their friends printed for $5 each.
Remember: Romney bad. Kock Brothers really bad. Crony Capitalism good. Obama really good.
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 10:18AM
I believe Romney would have done this for anyone he worked closely with whether they were Mormon or not. It is not about seeing ourselves as better and more important than other people and we make a point of helping out in the community however we can. But Church congregations have a special obligation to help each other in time of need, that is the point of belonging in a fellowship of Christ.
One thing you have never heard about Obama is his personally going out of his way to help someone else with no regard for himself. Narcissists are incapable of doing so and like many on the left, he claims to love humanity but has little love or concern for people as individuals. Karl Marx is a classic example of this way of thinking, a mean bastard by all accounts.
markenoff| 5.8.12 @ 11:14AM
Obama couldn't even go out of his way to help his destitute half brother living in a hut in Kenya or his illegal alien aunt living on welfare here in the US.
W| 5.8.12 @ 11:42AM
Excellent point, Markenoff.
Liberals expect the government to help.
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 12:15PM
Liberals think if you support big government liberalism there is no need for personal charity which explains their disdain for real Christianity.
Albert Constantine Jr.| 5.8.12 @ 9:05PM
and why they give so little to charity in most cases...
loulou| 5.8.12 @ 12:21PM
Wrong. Obama gave his illegal alien aunt amnesty.
Larry| 5.8.12 @ 6:47AM
Gee ... how heart warming. Now back to something relevant. This story continues to offer what it was dispatched to achieve when it surfaced many months ago ... a distraction from Romney's oh so unconservative candidacy.
Nice guy? If you're not standing in the way of something he wants. Mitt's inflated sense of entitlement can drive some deeply dishonest and thuggish behaviors.
Conservatives are willing to vote for Romney simply because he's not Obama. But he's also nothing approaching Conservative ... which is to say, Big Government won again ... and Americans lost.
So please dispense with this saccharine sleight of hand ... its tough enough to pull the lever while holding your nose ... don't make us wretch as well.
chuck| 5.8.12 @ 7:48AM
It's like 2008 all over again. After the primary, I swore I was sitting it out. But by the time November rolled around, I figured the damage that would be done to the country would be so severe, that I had to vote for McLame. Of course Palin made it much easier to stomach.
Romney was not my first, second, third, or fourth choice, but I will gladly pull the lever for him in November, because the country can't survive another 4 years of Obama. At least not in the same form as it was.
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 9:45AM
Well said. Romney is not my choice by a long shot, but he is the ONLY choice now. Don't cut your nose off to spite your face.
DTOM!| 5.8.12 @ 10:25AM
I can't stand Romney.
But I will
crawl over broken glass and barbed wire,
swim through molten steel,
run through mustard gas
to vote for Mr. Romney!
But in 2016 - if he's been a lousy President, the Tea Party had better find ONE good candidate and primary the crap out of him!!!
The Rockefeller wing of the Republican Party must be banished!
Vern Crisler| 5.8.12 @ 10:33AM
So you would choose a slow-acting poison over a fast-acting poison? Some choice.
DTOM!| 5.8.12 @ 10:56AM
I can respond to the slow acting poison a lot better than the bullet to the head! So can you!!!!!
Vern Crisler| 5.8.12 @ 12:38PM
How about neither choice?
spike59| 5.9.12 @ 6:41AM
there IS no such thing as 'neither choice'...it's time to face FACTS:
-Fact #1-ObaMao is going to be the Democrat nominee
-Fact #2-Romney is going to be the Republican nominee
Fact #3-voting for ObaMao helps ObaMao
Fact #4-voting for Romney hurts ObaMao
Fact #5-voting for a 3d party candidate, writing in a candidate, or not voting at all, helps ObaMao
time to choose
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 10:57AM
Yes, at least with Romney we may have a chance. With Obama we don't. It is really that simple folks for the ones who don't get it.
Vern Crisler| 5.8.12 @ 12:39PM
If you guys want to vote for Karl Rove and his buddies, go ahead. I will never vote for a Republican moderate again. Never.
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 4:58PM
I would vote for anyone other than Obama. That is the point that you don't seem to understand. Romney is all we have. You can either vote for hiim or you are in effect voingt for Obama, which I suspect is who you really support anyway. There are a lot of you folks going around trying to get conservatives to be hard headed and not vote for the GOP candidate so that your Marxist Obama will win. Hopefully, our folks are not dumb enough to fall for it.
W| 5.8.12 @ 11:47AM
Vern
What exactly do you think Romney will do to act as slow poison?
JmsA| 5.8.12 @ 12:00PM
Vote for Obama.
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 4:50PM
That's RINO-CINO Chuckie's Arlen Specterite McCain Redux "Lesser Evil" Crap Sandwich Excuse & He's Stickin' To It.
Harry the Horrible| 5.8.12 @ 9:49AM
Just in case you're wondering why we need to vote for Mitt, despite him being a NE liberal:
http://www.americanthinker.com.....plans.html
At least Mitt isn't a living, breathing enemy of the Republic.
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 11:00AM
Damn right, a second term for Obama will make us like what France and Greece have become. Many of us would have preferred a candidate with a more conservative record but he is a million times better than what Obama has in store for us.
Scorpio51| 5.8.12 @ 10:13AM
Yes, this article was supposed to make us see "the softer" side of Mitt Romney. Well I've seen enough of this story, many times over. BFD!
What's the bigger story here is how the GOP has manipulated this election process and forced this candidate on the electorate.
We conservatives are really smart people and see very clearly that Mitt Romney is a phony. He belongs to a cultist religion, and will carry on the Bush legacy in the White House.
It won't work this time. The GOP has to be brought to their knees and the convention will be a fight.
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 11:38AM
LOL. How do you plan to bring the GOP to its knees at the convention? All of the other candidates (other than Paul) have endorsed Romney. I think you are setting yourself up for a big letdown at the GOP convention. You "cult religion" comment is also very telling that you are a typical anti-Mormon bigot. Your religion is as much a cult as any religion. Who made you the person to define whose religion is a cult or not?
Scorpio51| 5.8.12 @ 5:56PM
Why don't you just do a little research on Mormonism and get back to me. Apparently, you aren't a person who cares about the background of a someone.
JimH| 5.8.12 @ 7:41AM
The search was certainly laudable. I’ll be even more impressed if I find out that the young man who abducted the girl disappeared shortly thereafter.
Von Mises Jr| 5.8.12 @ 9:40AM
Perhaps it was the Bama? He has a CT Social Security Card and could have been at Columbia in NYC at the time. We know he was a druggie and we don't know much else. Perhaps Mr. Gay's daughter is part of the Julia composite?
loulou| 5.8.12 @ 12:23PM
Bama has a STOLEN Social Security number. Isn't that a crime?
Von Mises Jr| 5.8.12 @ 1:07PM
Not if you are in the political class.
Crassus| 5.8.12 @ 10:03AM
It didn't appear to me that the young man abducted Melissa Gay. He merely found her wandering the streets all strung out on drugs and brought her to his house where she could dry out. It's unclear from the article what his intentions really were.
DTOM!| 5.8.12 @ 10:28AM
Crassus:
Here's the clue: He hid her from his parents!!!
What was he thinking? How about, "oh, look what I found to play with!"
IF his intentions were good, he would have recognized that she was unwell and gotten adult help. Otherwise, why hide her?
It's sort of like Voter ID - why on earth would you oppose it, unless you planned on cheating, a lot!
Don't Tread On Me!!
Crassus| 5.8.12 @ 11:44AM
It sounds to me like he was more stupid teenaged kid than a vile abductor. He very well could have been thinking "Oh, look what I found to play with." Public school education and all that.
SC Mike| 5.8.12 @ 7:45AM
I don’t know if it’s a Mormon thing, but it is nice to know that the guy is willing to step forward to help those in need.
It’s no big deal, but at least twice he’s rescued folks who ran into trouble on Lake Winnipesaukee. I don’t know if they were Mormons and the rescues alone are no reason to vote for Romney for anything, but it is nice to hear about somebody going a bit out of his way to help others.
http://www.dailynewstranscript.....z1uHFYlZPj
schman| 5.8.12 @ 10:10PM
It's not just a Mormon thing, its a person-with-moral-fiber thing. I'd like someone with moral fiber to govern the country that I care about.
Dr. X| 5.8.12 @ 8:23AM
This story has two lessons: one, Romney's genuine decency as a person; two, the perverse and decadent legacy of the Sixties "sex, drugs, rock and roll" culture that has corrupted America. To think that a 14-year old girl could almost end up dead from going to a concert, overdosing on Ecstacy and ending up in a strange male's house for days, and was saved only by the extraordinary efforts of private citizens, is an indictment of our sick culture.
The legacy of the Sixties is not the fake "peace and love" of Woodstock but the sick reality of Altamont.
Lannon| 5.8.12 @ 3:33PM
Unless there is something else here that is not in the short story, the only thing that may have saved the 14 year old girl is the male teen calling to ask if there was a reward -- and the capability of the police to trace it.
I agree, Doctor X, about the decadence. Today we still pretty much have that Sixties "sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll" culture. Look at 90% of today's campuses. Look at how adults still behave at age 35 or even 45. TV, movies, pop music, internet preversions, online games, sex tourism, and hedonism clubs. The Mexican cartels wouldn't be doing so grandly if there were not so many consumers here and in Canada.
Will President Romney do anything to help turn this around?
(Were any of Romney's pals and associates really all that disturbed by what they encountered in the dark recesses of New York City? Did it change their entire life outlook, goals, purpose?)
tsd| 5.8.12 @ 8:38AM
This gives me a better feel for the guy we HAVE TO ELECT THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE USA !!!! If not Mitt Romney we will have Supreme Leader Obama for Life!!! Today he spends our money as he see's fit without a budget from Congress, he has czars forcing us to do his bidding, lies at all levels, violates the constitution at will, builds a military/police and spy system for controlling US citizens, steals real property from all of us.... all this in his first term!
Ryan| 5.8.12 @ 8:45AM
It just goes to show that decent people - which Romney may genuinely be - can have poor political stances.
Lawrence| 5.8.12 @ 9:03AM
I'm with Larry (similar name, but a different individual). I opposed Romney's nomination, and I do not believe I can bring myself to supporting him in the general election.
Why not?
I believe that voting Obama out of office is necessary for the country -- necessary BUT NOT SUFFICIENT.
The problem isn't just Obama, it's the progressivism for which he is the most radical advocate. And if progressivism is the problem, it's not a significant improvement to replace the utopian progressive Obama with a managerial progressive like Romney.
I agree with Mark Steyn's dire assessment that we need a major course correction -- and soon -- to avoid a real fiscal catastrophe, and I don't believe Mitt Romney has the principles and the courage that will be needed for the task at hand.
We need someone who will fight opponents who were only warming up in Wisconsin, and Romney's as likely to seek some sort of tax-hiking compromise with them. We need someone who will point out that Ryan's plan is woefully insufficient in promising to balance the budget in TWENTY-EIGHT YEARS, and Romney is more likely to triangulate than to push the needle even further to the right, where it needs to be.
Maybe I'm wrong and he'll turn out to be a great fiscal hawk, but there's nothing in his record or rhetoric to suggest it -- to the degree he's stood apart from the feckless Republican establishment, it has consistently been to stand to its LEFT -- and we've already seen what happens when voters hope that a presidential candidate is less statist than his record clearly indicates.
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 9:49AM
Again, what you say has a lot of merit abuot Romney not being conservative enough, but at the end of the day there are only two people that will possibly be president when the election is over: Obama or Romney. That much I am willing to bet anyone about. Talking about some ideal candidate is a waste of time and couterproductive for this election cycle. You are either for Obama or Romney whether you know it or not (i.e., if you don't vote for Romney you are helping Obama win).
Lawrence| 5.8.12 @ 2:43PM
I'm not voting for Obama, either, so by your logic, I'm helping Romney win, right?
I understand that, in all likelihood, only one or the other will be elected. But since I do not believe that either is going to do enough to avoid the coming Steynian crisis, I'm not going to support either.
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 5:01PM
Well, ok then. Good luck to you. It's a losing strategy but some folks are just like that. LOL.
Scorpio51| 5.8.12 @ 10:22AM
Exactly Lawrence. The electorate has been forced to vote for the lessor of two evils.
Obama and Romney are both progressives. If you don't believe me, read Wikipedia on Romney. It clearly states that in his bio.
Has anyone dug into Mormonism? Doesn't matter you say? Sorry, but it is important. Google Park Romney and you will get the whole story. Mitt hasn't been up front about his religion. Find out about "blood atonement." A real eye opener.
If you think that Obama and the DNC won't throw all this out, think again. They will destroy Mitt.
If we conservatives don't fight back against the GOP we will have lost all the way around.
DTOM!| 5.8.12 @ 10:32AM
Please enumerate the times the electorate has NOT been given the choice of the lesser of two evils? Hopefully, you are not surprised by the logical, inevitable result of a two party system...
(Or did you really mean that we are being forced to vote for someone who has rented out two evils, as in lessor-lessee?)
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 11:01AM
I have dug into Mormonism and I know a lot of them, and it is not an issue. Mormons are good solid people who believe in Christ. That is good enough for me. We are not electing a preacher.
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 12:45PM
You know you are dealing with a anti-Mormon wacko when they bring up the blood atonement because it is completely false and phony. Much like the blood libel charges made against the Jews.
RCV| 5.9.12 @ 12:37PM
There's no doubt that anti-Mormon bigotry is alive and well on these pages and elsewhere. But it's a mistake to pretend that "blood atonement" is a "completely false and phony" charge akin to the anti-semitic blood libel, which had no basis whatsoever in fact.
"Blood atonement" was in fact a doctrine taught by the early Mormon church, and specifically by Brigham Young. It expressed the belief that murder was such a heinous crime that it could not be atoned for by Jesus's sacrifice, and required the spilling of blood in exchange for the crime. It was the basis for Utah's retention of the firing squad for executions long after other states had abandoned the practice.
While the doctrine is still clung to by heretical Mormon fundamentalists, the Church itself no longer believes it to have validity.
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 2:22PM
You sound like the type that would have joined a pogrom back in the day believing the blood libel lies
Cpl. Punishment| 5.8.12 @ 4:06PM
That's because its wikipedia numbnutz.
Anthony| 5.8.12 @ 9:03AM
Well Mr. Tucker, email this article to Gail Collins and watch the blank screen as you look for her reply.
She has her narrative, she's a lefty hack whose purpose in life is a 2nd Obozo term, along with some of the usual suspects who post at TAS.
Mark| 5.8.12 @ 9:50AM
Liberals are bitter, mean, full of hate, condescending and arrogant. They will never awknowledge this story. They and ObaMao and his Alenski-trained handlers will demonize Romney with a negative spin on this story, and the same old "dog on the roof" story, because they must defeat him to transform America into their Euro-style socialist disaster, ruled by them!
Richard| 5.8.12 @ 10:23AM
Dog on the roof--Didn't Obama eat a dog once? There are a lot of de facto Democrats on this post--if you don't vote for Romney, you are a de facto Democrat. PERIOD
Drunken Sailor| 5.8.12 @ 11:34AM
Exactly Richard. I have posted several times now the following question to these "I won't vote for Romney posters" and have yet to get a reply.
"Do you honestly think that Obama, if re-elected will not push even harder to the left? What is to stop him? Do you not think that even if Republicans take over Congress, he will not keep pushing via Executive powers? Again, what is to stop him? Are you so sure, that the country can withstand another 4 years of Obama at the helm that you are willing to gamble your country and the future of your children and Grandchildren?"
Not a reply once. Romney was not my choice but even a steer slightly toward the center is better than a hard left turn over a cliff. And basically that is what this election boils down to. Some of the Romney bashers complain he isn't conservative enough. True, but he is what we have.
Some are still pissed their canidate didn't get chosen. Get over it, they have. Last I checked everyone of his opponents (except Paul) have moved on and endorsed him. If you had enough faith in that canidate to put your country in their hands, should you not at least stop and give it some thought when they endorse another canidate?
At least the left knows how to do one thing better than the right apparently has up to this point. And that is to unite and push as hard as they can for the canidate that won their ticket. Sadly we lose the war often because we are too focused on the individual battles.
Lawrence| 5.8.12 @ 2:55PM
Drunken Sailor,
To answer your question, I do believe that Obama would continue pushing this country to the left, but I also believe we're ALREADY at the point where we need (in Mark Steyn's words -- and for the reasons he has outlined) a "major course correction," and we need it soon.
You're asking the wrong question.
"Are you so sure, that the country can withstand another 4 years of Obama at the helm that you are willing to gamble your country and the future of your children and Grandchildren?"
The issue isn't just Obama at the helm, it's progressivism, it's a government that taxes too much, borrows WAY too much, spends, too much, regulates too much, and insinuates itself into far too much of our daily lives.
The solution isn't merely voting Obama out of office, it's shrinking the state, quickly and dramatically.
We're very close to the cliff now, and, yes, Obama plans to keep his foot on the gas, but Romney's record tells us that the MOST he would do is ease off on the gas -- and we'd still go over the cliff.
You write, about the other candidates, "If you had enough faith in that canidate to put your country in their hands, should you not at least stop and give it some thought when they endorse another canidate?"
Possibly, but one's support for Perry or Gingrich or Santorum doesn't imply some sort of loyalty where we follow his every decision. I thought Santorum was MINIMALLY sufficient and a risk for his own reasons; his endorsement of Romney doesn't change a thing about my evaluation of the candidate.
Drunken Sailor| 5.8.12 @ 4:09PM
Lawrence,
At least you had some answers. Even if I disagree with some of them.
You wrote
"The issue isn't just Obama at the helm, it's progressivism, it's a government that taxes too much, borrows WAY too much, spends, too much, regulates too much, and insinuates itself into far too much of our daily lives.
The solution isn't merely voting Obama out of office, it's shrinking the state, quickly and dramatically."
No argument there but if your not going to vote for Romney (and even you stated he would at least take his foot off the gas) then what is your plan?
Should we continue to fight to shrink the goverment? Not just yes, but hell yes. That is not the question.
The question is how can you make a difference, no matter how small, come November in the course correction of our country? If you think leaving Obama in office to "teach the rest of the country a lesson" is the answer, I humbly submit your GPS needs re-calibrating.
It boils down to simply this.
4 more years of Obama = Unacceptable
Romeny = slightly better
What other choice is there? What is your alternative????
Dinsmore| 5.8.12 @ 4:39PM
Folks, we're all played. Candidates endorse candidates that "win" because the "loser" candidate does not want to be left out in the cold.
[This is why incumbents fight with fright so hard to win election again. The worst thing that can occur to a pol is to be left out, forgotten, ignored.]
After all, there are cabinet positions that will need filling, assistant secretary positions that will open up, commissions that will require future "blue ribbon panel" members, etc.
And...they were all in on the farcical charade. From Cain to Pawlenty, from Huntsman to Gingrich.
You've been played since January 2010 as to who the GOP nominee would be right now.
It never was a contest. The outcome for Romney was never an unknown.
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 8:59PM
I don't believe that for a second. It is true that he held the front runner status coming from 2008 and had the best organization but Rick Perry could have taken it if he didn't fall on his face.
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 5:07PM
Well it sounds like you have just given up Larry. I don't give up that easily, and I realize that this is going to be a very long fight to reverse socialism. We are not going to hit a home run as you suggest, as much as I would like to do so. And letting Obama run the country in the ground is not the answer to get it fixed. We all know Romney is not a great conservative (to say it lightly), but he is the only candidate that we have to go up against Obama to give us some chance to stop our decline. Being hard headed about it won't change a thing. Romney is all we have this election cycle. I wish we had a better option but we don't and we won't. Somehow you need to figure this out. Most everyone else has, including the other candidates who have gotten out.
martin j smith| 5.8.12 @ 10:26AM
What Mr Tucker still fails to comprehend is that the NYT and in fact all of the media are clearly "in for the struggle" against Capitalism. There is no give and take from these people its all take. There is no compromise. Its our way or no way. What Mr Tucker still does not get is that what those who are not Socialists or Communists are thus the "enemy" It is class struggle and political warfare its that clear cut. Mr Tucker I pray that you and others like you grow up and face the reality stark as it is and this is politcal warfare and indeed blood may flow in the streets if Romney wins, Just watch the idiots in the OWS gang. Just start of what is to come. This the reality and what we need to defeat. Do we have the will Mr Tucker. ?
DTOM!| 5.8.12 @ 10:34AM
My only question, can the NYT take out Capitalism before it takes out the NYT?
Here's hoping...
Anthony| 5.8.12 @ 12:35PM
My pesos are on Carlos Slim and the NYT sinking faster then the blue eyed, blonde haired Chief Sitting Bull Warren can say, "white man speaks with forked tongue".
Bob| 5.8.12 @ 11:12AM
What is going on with all of the typos in this otherwise excellent column?
Marie commenting| 5.8.12 @ 11:35AM
A lot of you folks seem to think we are voting for Saints! Well, men and women who run for political office have come short in many ways to the Glory of God, as we all have. You make a choice in your own heart and soul. Maybe that person doesn't come up to your expectations but yet you don't have much, if any choice, on the other end either. You pray about it and you will come to a good decision every time. Believe me it works!
Tim| 5.8.12 @ 11:41AM
Morman or not the fact remains that the only way Romney or any other big government Capitalist wins especially in this climate is to convince enough hard working class social conservatives who love their liberty and the US Constitution that their vision of America will truly be protected.
If Romney can't pick the right running mate or even more true if he cannot connect to that huge chunck of voters he won't win.
Yes, an army of tens of thousands of folks knocking on doors will help but by itself it wont be enough just like the African American vote was not enough to elect Obama.
Last time I checked plenty of Whites voted Obama into office.
So color and rligious brotherhood still helps to get your base out but that's about it in the big picture.
martin j smith| 5.8.12 @ 11:57AM
No the fact remains do you want 4 or more years of Obama or not. Its that simple now or not.
Yankee First| 5.8.12 @ 3:45PM
Mr. Smith, please. This is a simpleton's approach. A simpleton believes he only has two choices.
There are, in fact, a number of other choices.
One, we chuck these two parties. There is nothing in our U.S. Constitution that talks about political parties, the quantity. We are free to make a new one or several. And, let's be honest, this is long, long overdue.
I'd call one of the new ones the "Destroy Washington Now Party," the DWN. As in "DoWN!" with all of them!
In seriousness, we won't be seriously fixing any of our fiscal, taxation, IRS, government takeovers, strangle-hold regulations, uncontrolled csars, the EPA, the Fed, wasted money doled out to corrupt world leaders via our State Dept. and the UN, etc., etc. until we form a new partisan group that will roll back the Washington, D.C. excesses of the last 45 years.
It is time to tell our establishment ruling classes (which includes Mitt Romeny) that the party is over, and they have no place in our lives.
Third Party. Fourth Party. Fifth Party. Frankly, the more, the merrier perhaps.
Let's Roll.
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 4:25PM
We can be just like Greece, France , Italy etc. who have a ton of different parties to make coalitions with, that just works great doesn't it? The Republican Party is the party of Reagan and getting rid of guys like Lugar is the start to reform it back to what it needs to be. Talking 3rd party as the solution is nonsense and would just give the Democrat Socialists more power to destroy the Constitution.
YF| 5.8.12 @ 4:46PM
Todd S. you need to think. Not just "think" what others tell you to think.
That was straight out of the RINO GOP HQ off Capitol Hill. Reince Priebus would be so proud of you.
Thanks for being a sell-out to the nation -- and your offspring/grandchildren.
And I guess you missed that it was Tea Partiers who did what was done in the nation in November 2012. It was not that "Republican Party of Reagan" (who is dead) that created the best electoral results in four generations.
Todd S| 5.8.12 @ 5:43PM
It was November 2010 and hopefully we get part 2 in 2012 but what is with the know-it-all jerk condescension? You really think a 3rd Party accomplishes anything? Two words for you, Ross Perot. Sorry but I will listen to Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh before some guy on the Internet who thinks he knows better than everyone else. What you say makes no sense in reality, some weird Utopian belief that we can just get rid of everything and start all new. The Tea Party movement is about reforming the Republican Party, that is obvious since everyone they supported who got elected was a Republican.
Tim| 5.8.12 @ 12:07PM
My vote and your vote isn't the issue here Martin.
My concern is the votes of millions of hard working social conservatives that are not Pure
Capitalists but rather........
they love America for its Democracy, Freedoms, Liberties, the love of the 1st and 2nd Ammendments and they love the compassionate and spiritual nature and religious freedoms of this unique land.
Capitalism has been found to be the best form of economic system but what has made it work so good in the USA in the past is the marriage of Capitalism to the social conservative values
that made us the envy of the world for a very long time. That's what is at risk here!
If you try to sell "Pure Capitalism".....The Socialist wins every day of the week and twise on Sunday..
Oldefarte| 5.8.12 @ 12:10PM
WHATEVER Romney IS or ISN'T, the fact remains that at least he's..........NOT OBAMA!!!!
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 4:53PM
Neither Was Your Frontman McCain, Israel Firster RINO-CINO BibiBot, Fart.
CarlH| 5.8.12 @ 5:11PM
So what is your solution? Vote for nobody? Vote for Obama? It looks like you have no solution and you are just rambling making no sense.
SUBVET| 5.8.12 @ 8:27PM
O...F they don't get it.
JohnM| 5.8.12 @ 12:19PM
Thank God, Romney had the moral clarity to set aside business as usual when action was required. He may not be the ideal "Republican" but he'll get my vote.
somnolence| 5.8.12 @ 12:21PM
I proudly cast my ballot today for Mitt Romney(even though Gingrich and Santorum were on the ballot) for President, Richard Mourdock for U.S. Senate over Dick Lugar(who is so desperate it is pitiful) in the Indiana primary.
Don| 5.8.12 @ 12:24PM
So it turns out Romney is the real community organizer and he was successful at it, unlike 'baby Jesus' Obama. But can you imagine the 24/7 news coverage for Obama if he had done this. The MSM would turn it into the equivalent of walking on water or turning water into wine. The movie would already be out starring Samuel L. Jackson or Denzel. Washington.
Tim| 5.8.12 @ 12:33PM
I'm interested in how people who don't visit this web site or any other web site vote.
We engage in good converstation. Most folks don't spend time responding or visiting political web sites.
It's those millions of votes that count because they are the millions that swing elections.
So while we have fun here and our opinions are valid and important its a very tiny slice of the universe called the voting public.
Romney won't win or loose the election based on votes cast by us on this site but by millions of Americans who spend their time working their tails off, raising their kids, and worshiping their God.
Dmac | 5.8.12 @ 1:38PM
Okay, we all know Romney is more to the left than to the right. So whats the major difference between Romney and Obama? Easy, one is good and the other is evil. I'll have no problem holding my nose and voting for Romney.
Bob S| 5.8.12 @ 2:35PM
OK, Romney's a nice guy. So what? Will he repudiate Romney/Obamacare, the overseas empire/wars, the Fed. Reserve and the fascist crony capitalism that is bringing America down?
No? Then he's just Obamalite as Barak is Geo. W. Obama. It's time to hit the constitutional reset button. The people that gave us this mess can't be trusted to fix it. Paper it over and deny, yes, they will do that. But it's not good enough.
cheers,
LarryK| 5.8.12 @ 2:50PM
I wonder what Obama would have done?
WWOD
What Would Obama Do?
Flee| 5.8.12 @ 3:40PM
I think we all know what O would have done. Ask for Federal and NYPD assistance while the child withers away. Romney acted without asking questions or worrying about the cost in man hours and in the interest of his partner first and foremost. He also took the success with humility. I think we know how O would have taken the success.
Occam's Tool| 5.8.12 @ 3:40PM
I happen to like Mormons. My office mate in residency was a Mormon, and so was my babysitter as a kid.
Romney, by the way, also rescued a drowning family and their dog while governor. He seems to be a good human being. And successful. And patriotic.
We could, and currently are, doing worse. I'm voting for the guy.
Scorpio51| 5.8.12 @ 6:08PM
Yes, you are the typical Republican sheep.
You may know Mormons, but do you "really" know anything about their religion?
SUBVET| 5.8.12 @ 8:30PM
51....... I have read your comments and Sir "you talk like a man with a paper a**hole."
SUBVET| 5.8.12 @ 8:32PM
51........what does religion have to do with it....ditto on my above post.
RCV| 5.9.12 @ 12:40PM
Occam, policy disagreements aside, I agree fully with you that Romney does indeed seem to be a genuinely decent and good person.
Occam's Tool| 5.8.12 @ 3:44PM
This is the link to the drowning family AND THEIR DOG: http://hotair.com/archives/201.....dogs-life/
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 5:04PM
Tool Job's The RINO-CINO , Who Said He'd Vote For The Ruling Elites' Fop RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney Way Back In June.
We Are Being Set Up By The RINO-CINO Agendists For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.
These Are The RINO-CINO Agendists, Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.
Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....
MikeG| 5.8.12 @ 7:22PM
Wow, Clint. So much common sense and logic in one post. And this is the first time you wrote this and nobody helped you? Gee, how did you do it. You convinced me to vote for Obama like you.
Clint| 5.8.12 @ 10:22PM
That's A Lie, Israel Firster Smear Bund Liar, Micky G.
Obama Is An Asshole, Just Like You Israel Firsters.
Dmitry Aleksandrovich| 5.8.12 @ 9:21PM
I never vote along the lines of my labor union's endorsements. Last election they predictably endorsed Barrack Obama and I wrote in Ron Paul. I plan to vote for Ron Paul again in the California primary and write him or Pat Buchanan in during the general election in protest to the GOP establishment pick Mitt Romney. The only way I will ever vote for Mitt Romney is if my "UNION" endorses him. haha
stage9| 5.8.12 @ 9:36PM
THIS is the real Obamney:
The Mitt Romney Report
http://massresistance.org/romney/
POST American| 5.9.12 @ 12:08AM
'SUB--Mitt ---ROME---KNEE'
Again kiddies, remember, the capstone
creeps move by signs. They wave them in
your very face as they DESTROY you
and advance their ever cherished, NEVER
---EVER halted, much less 'mod--IF--I'
their agenda.
"Fascism NEVER turns back."
-Mussolini
1922
Think that slow takedowwn op known
as 'SO---SHELL--ism'
-------Think the fast op takedown of
'MARKS--ism'!
---THINK Gates-Rockefeller-UN
------------------------- 'FEW--chore-ism'!
--Jekyll Island to Sarajevo to Petrograd
1918 ---to the killing fields of Ukraine
----to the beer hall putsch ---to the
Kaiser Wilhelm EUGENICS foundation
---to the Reichstag fire ---to Nuremberg
1934 ---to Poland ---Pearl Harbor ---back
to Nuremberg ---onward to MAO ----betraying
Korea ---Vietnam blood and treasure side op
and cover -----'the CFR 'Nick's ON--MAO'
handover -----
"Sin is NEVER still.
It's ALWAYS linked and ALWAYS
on the move."
-Jonathan Edwards
1722
THINK the systematic handover of the
ENTIRE American economy to RED China.
THINK EUGENICS which now entirely
runs 'MED--IS---SIN' worldwide.
THINK the systematic, Tavistock modulated
destruction of the Constitution and the Republic.
THINK the Rockefeller-Ford-
Carnegie-Macy Group's almost century long sedition and
cultural degradation op.
-----Private, DEBT serf generating USURY,
profoundly inbred and unaccountable ---is the
KEY instrument of takeover.
EUGENICS ----veering, as it ALWAYS DOES
---into open DEMOCIDE -----is their BOTTOM
LINE.
It is an archetype.
ALWAYS SO.
----The very Law of Moses
-----------The very Word of GOD.
"All ye know,
and ALLLLL ye need to know."
A Sphincter Says What?| 5.9.12 @ 12:43AM
Funny that all of you Obomney supporters think that there are only TWO choices in Nov. There are three....and right now my plan is to sit on my couch and watch Obomney get defeated. It is evidently not important, and was not important, to you Obomneyites that he trashed the only conservative canidates in the race. Conservative voters must not be very important in the grand Obomney scheme to get elected. Thus, if I'm not important then I'll sit this one out, thanks.
A Sphincter Says What?| 5.9.12 @ 12:46AM
I know you can't wrap your brains around why people would not vote for Obomney but the fact of the matter is that there is no difference in the path of our country if Obama or Obomney get elected. Well there is one......the rate at which we watch this experiment go off the cliff.
SetOurChildrenFree | 5.9.12 @ 12:52PM
Of course the media will ignore it because it doesn't fit their template that all Republicans are uncompassionate and greedy.
POST American| 5.9.12 @ 11:10PM
--------------------BOTTOM LINE----------------------
--'BAR--Rockefeller' H Obama
-------------------VS-------------------
--'SUB--Mitt ---ROME---KNEEEEE'
Not lookin' good kiddies!
wodiej| 5.10.12 @ 8:09AM
so WHAT?? The fool tied his Irish Setter into a dog cage on top of the car for 8 FRIGGIN HOURS ON A HIGHWAY! Because he helped someone find their drug induced daughter who was hiding in the basement, that makes him worthy of the presidency.? Good grief....what low standards conservatives have for their nominees.
We could have had Palin or Gingrich (or both).