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Cheap Savage, Dear Prudence
It gets better, we hope.
(Page 2 of 2)
If gay is good, why associate it with all that you find bad?
Dan Savage doesn’t have issues with Christians, Republicans, or bullies. Dan Savage has issues with Dan Savage.
Love thyself. The rest will follow.
Sexually adventurous correspondents write Savage more for affirmation than advice. The dispenser of advice would be better off seeking it, and from one with more discretion and judgment and less brutality and viciousness.
In other words, he could use more Prudence, less Savage.
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Daniel J. Flynn is the author of Blue Collar Intellectuals: When the Enlightened and the Everyman Elevated America. He blogs at www.flynnfiles.com.
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Jerry| 5.4.12 @ 6:31AM
"If gay is good, why associate it with all that you find bad?" I've often wondered why the worst pejorative the left can muster against the tea party is "tea bagger"--if the gay lifestyle is so laudable, why lump in those you hate with those you praise?
Regarding the aptly named Savage, he is just like the other militant gay-rights activists, demanding what they cannot find within themselves: respect.
Von Mises Jr| 5.4.12 @ 9:21AM
We see this hate, vitriol and confusion almost daily from our troll Caliban, I mean Perp. Of course his response will have something to do with an act of perversion, or some taste or smell of body parts.
It is all they can respond in their mixed-up and rudderless world.
Perp, Riddle me this:
Why is tea-bagger such a slur for the left to use, when it is politically incorrect to point out that Dan Savage would like to do it to you? Are you feeling guilty about having too many cocktails and.....?
No Adult Would Ever Do This| 5.7.12 @ 3:10AM
This is not a response to Von Mises, Jr. I am only placing this remark here because the bottom of this blog post is all blacked out and illegible. I am also placing this remark here because it NEEDS TO BE SAID, and emphasized in the highest tones:
What was this moron doing speaking to those under the ages of 16 or even under 15?
Who permitted this?
The "Savage" needs not only his mouth washed out with soap but a three-month high intensity mouthal overhaul.
If this creep is on MTV, then an adult organizer for this conference had to know the filth that would spew from this sewer. I hold the organizers of this conference fully responsible for the sewer sewage this Mr. Savage emitted.
I want heads to roll. I want to hear about teachers, administrators, staff, organizers BEING FIRED. Get the perp who invited Savage and start with his or her firing. Tomorrow is not soon enough.
This is not the kind of professional talk one might here at a truly professional, focused journalism conference targeted to young teens. These are TEENS!
This is not a conference of professional 40-somethings who are all there of their own volition and with full knowledge of the speakers invited.
What is wrong with this country??!!!
We openly now talk of all manner of human debasement in front of children? These are children. Most don't yet know the A,B,C's of good writing, prose, journalism, interviews, editing, etc. Yet -- what were they served up at this conference? A" Epithets, excrement, filth language, abuse, mockery, ugly tones, lies, and complete failed adult behavior.
Mr. Savage, you are vermin of the worst kind. Those who enable and abide with you are the butchers of the Good.
Be very glad that my child was not in attendance. Or any relative of mine.
Mr. Savage, close your ugly, filthy mouth and get your mind and soul right -- or speak not again -- ever -- in such a way to those younger than you are now.
Got it?!
What defines a reprobate? Mr. Savage and his fellow travelers.
Do not spew your filth again on teens or children.
These kids don't even know about journalism style books yet and how to employ them -- and you want to talk to them like this?
Do it again, and I will indeed pray fervently for God to bring your swift demise. By name.
beebop2| 5.4.12 @ 6:36PM
I understand that Dan Savage might be damaged by his personal experiences. Perhaps the next time he needs to vent, he might take to Facebook and locate those who bullied HIM versus perpetrating the bully culture by turning on young men and women who have committed no offense.
I sent an email to my senator objecting to his endorsement of Savage on the floor of the senate. There are lots and lots and lots of reasons I will vote against Sherrod Brown, his smug email in response is only one more.
Ipso| 5.7.12 @ 2:42AM
Damaged? Why the sympathy? Savage is demented, plain and simple. He's old enough to have shaken off any "issues" (if they are real) from any earlier life he's had.
Let's be frank: Hell awaits him. That is his choice. No need to feel sorry for those who choose Hell - while so gleefully mocking God, God's Holy Word, and perhaps young Christians that might encounter him -- like those at this conference.
Yes, for those who act like and talk like Savage, Hell awaits. This is as inevitable as the letter B following the letter A. Or -- he could choose to repent.
I might hope for the latter and wish this for him. But in the meantime, keep him away from all children, yes, even university children. I hate lawsuits, but I'd love to see some sort of lawsuit against Savage and those who permitted him access and speaking rights at this conference.
I don't recall many walkouts in high school. Maybe a few. Or some signs of dissent. But I never heard the speakers then mock and chastise and belittle and scorn those departing.
I guess Savage would be upset, but I don't know of him or care that I don't. However, to those making arrangements for this conference, he was a known -- fully perverted -- quantity.
As for Savage and his ilk --
"Get thee behind me, Satan."
Appleby| 5.4.12 @ 6:51AM
Good for the Christian boys and girls who got up and quietly left this savage yawp. I spent the better part of a year quietly leaving Anglican/Episcopal churches when I heard less vulgar but equally unChristian messages from the pulpit, until finally I swam the Tiber and discovered the beauty of a Homily [sermon] every Sunday that was based on the scripture reading of the day and not on the latest rant from MSNBC. In one way creatures like this Savage are teaching Christian boys and girls in North America what those in other countries learned long ago: that Christianity comes with a price and that contrary to what Obama's mentor taught him, the Sermon on the Mount has serious words about how to deal with your enemies...and they work. Compare this quiet exodus with the May 1 Occupiers -- or if you are in Montreal, with the "students" who have been rioting for a couple of MONTHS now, demanding free University attendance and simultaneously smashing, looting and destroying the businesses that pay the taxes that would fund their "freeloading" if the government caved to their demands -- and wouldn't know a cognitive dissonance if it bit their flea-infested backsides.
People like this creep are necessary sometimes, to bring the World view to Americans who have been effectively insulated from the reality outside their gates. People like these Christian boys and girls are necessary too -- as proof positive that there are things worth living for, and ultimately worth dying for.
As for Savage himself, some day he will learn that Satan doesn't take partners. Hope he's got a good set of asbestos long johns. He's going to need them.
Darin| 5.4.12 @ 6:57AM
Kudos for the students for walking out on the rants of a bully. Savage is a small little man who is a legend in his own mind.
Gary B| 5.4.12 @ 10:39AM
Not to worry. His fifteen minutes will soon be up.
TLP| 5.4.12 @ 3:22PM
Exactly.
Mike Hawk| 5.4.12 @ 7:00AM
Savage doesn't have a 'husband' and he isn't 'married'. He has a 'good buddy'. Women who are married to men have husbands.
LarryK| 5.4.12 @ 9:20AM
Maybe Savage is "the woman" in that "relationship".
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 10:46AM
If he is a resident of one of the many States in The United States which have legalized same-sex marriage..HE IS MARRIED,WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.....
I suppose he can refer to his lawfully married spouse in whatever term he chooses to do so.
The Big E| 5.4.12 @ 11:08AM
"If he is a resident of one of the many States in The United States which have legalized same-sex marriage..HE IS MARRIED,WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT....."
Only if you recognize the authority of the State over the authority of God.
If your ecognize the authority of God, then it does not matter what the State chooses to "legalize," whether YOU like it or not.
Marirage is either a Holy Estate or it is not.
If it is a Holy Estate, then there is nothing the State can do, no label they can apply, which can in any way change or alter its status.
If it is not a Holy Estate, then the whole concept of marriage is meaningless, and it does not matter what anyone, straight, gay, or otherwise, wants or thinks about it.
You can't have it both ways, and either way, YOUR statement on the subject is without meaning or merit.
Todd S| 5.4.12 @ 11:32AM
A communist believer like Pelleas doesn't recognize God or Natural Law.
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 12:01PM
yup--your 're (somewhat--at least closer then I've ever seen you before...) right---for the FIRST TIME, TODD....!!-MAZELTOV!
...although, my political beliefs have actually little, if anything to do , with my lack of belief in god--- MAN did that by allowing the Shoah to occur....
Todd S| 5.4.12 @ 12:59PM
I have a fair knowledge of Jewish history as I have read several books in the past year regarding it. It is no coincidence so many of them were attracted to radical elements, society was not very kind to them for many years. Making a new man and society devoid of religion was an obsession for many of them. Israel is Real by Rich Cohen and The History of the Jews by Paul Johnson are the books I am referring to.
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 1:10PM
Todd
I take back my mazeltov...
Ya should have stopped while you were ahead... your last post ""making a new man and society devoid of religion" is your type of usual right wing dreck comment-- although, I seem to hear the echo of Paul Johnson- an insufferable clown academic, in that statement as well...
Todd S| 5.4.12 @ 1:20PM
Is that not what communism was about Pelleas? Nothing right wing about that, it is what they have said themselves many times. Now on to more important things than debating a commie troll.
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 11:57AM
PERHAPS..A MARRIAGE in a Church/Synagogue/Mosque is a "Holy Estate"...
BUT..
When 2 people register for "wedded bliss" at a State Office--"holiness" has nothing to do with it-- this is a contract agreement between two parties, with The State regulating the agreement--PURE AND SIMPLE-
Since i don't subscribe to the notion of "holy estates", YOUR comment is equally without meaning, or merit--to me
The Big E| 5.4.12 @ 12:51PM
If marrige is not a Holy Estate, as you claim, then why do you care who does or does claim to be married? Logically, it would make no difference.
Any legal issues dealing with access to records or the like can easily be dealth without resorting to the term "marriage" at all.
In fact, a far more cogent argument would be to argue that the State has no business in marriage at all, since marriage is religious based institution.
The reality is that the issue is not about who should or should not be allowed to marry, but is instead about diluting the institution of marriage so as to render it meaningless, and there legitimize behavior which is instinctively illegitimate.
In other words, either there is Right and Wrong or there isn't. There is no middle ground. The State cannot make Right that which is Wrong, regardless of the laws it passes.
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 1:54PM
I "CARE" --ONLY in that certain "rights"--tax credits, death benefits, and the like , are granted only to those whom the State recognizes as being a "married couple"- plain and simple.
What --EXACTLY is "wrong" with same-sex marriage?- and please do not give the "religious arguement", as not EVERYONE shares YOUR "faith"
Canisius| 5.4.12 @ 2:28PM
When people like Pelleas are running things the Gulags are filled with rest of us... one difference this time little boy most us are armed...Smash the Left...
The Big E| 5.4.12 @ 3:48PM
As I said in my previous post, the legal issues you cited can all be dealt with without pretentions of tinkiering with marriage.
I also explained what was wrong with same-sex marriage in my previous post. However, since you wish to hear the point argued in such a manner that will allow you to continue to lie to yourself, I will do so.
Whenever we consider any issue, ANY issue urged upon us by the left, we must always remember that leftists are, at heart, nihilists - to them, life and the institutions of life, have no value. The only thing the liberal values is his or her own, personal pleasure, regardless of the costs to those around them. This is true whether the issues are those urged by the OWS crowd - who want their material comforst assured without having to do anything to earn it regardless of the cost to those who do - or gay marriage.
The left sees no harm in gay marriage because they see no value in traditional marriage. Once they have achieved universal legal acceptance of gay marriage, then they will seek universal legal acceptance of pedophilia, pederasty, incest, etc. - in fact, they have already begun that quest. When you see no value in human life or dignity beyond your own personal, selfish pleasure, then there is no act - no matter how dangerous, deadly or depraved - which you cannot justify.
In short, your argument in favor of gay marriage rests on one idea - the idea that you should be able to wahtever you want and never suffer any consequences - an idea based in selfishness and nihilism.
Life, however, doesn't work that way, whether we want it to or not. There are always consequences for our actions.
Skippy| 5.5.12 @ 4:52PM
I JUST LOVE THE CAPITAL LETTERS!
IT MAKES YOUR POINT SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT...LIKE YOU!
I WISH I COULD BE IMPORTANT LIKE YOU!
THEN I COULD SHOUT DOWN THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH ME...LIKE YOU!
PsychoDad| 5.6.12 @ 10:53AM
Oh, so you mean it's about the money. Why didn't you say so to begin with?
Pelleas| 5.8.12 @ 12:42AM
Yes...to a large degree, it is primerally about financial concerns- as marriage has been through-out history--NOT the only reason for it- BUT a major one......
Mike Hawk| 5.4.12 @ 5:32PM
OK, peabrain. What is marriage?? Define it.
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 6:05PM
Marriage is-- the legal ( as defined by The State) joining of two people, in a defined union-with certain responsibilities for, and towards, one another.
Since there are just as many heterosexual people who are married, under purely Civil Statutes, as those who have religious ceremonies-- the religious basis of/for/ marriage has no meaning--other then to those of a particular faith, who feel the need to sanctify their union, according to their belief-system.
The rest of "Big E's " rant defies any sort of sane response , as he/she is so full of bileous hatred that anything said will be retorted in some insane manner-- such as his /her claim that the "left favors incest...etc......)
btw.. in what manner are FULL RIGHTS afforded to couples who are not given the right to a State -issued marriage certificate, at present?--even the half-assed "partnership" proposals do not address taxation and death benefit issues, in any meaningful way.
Thomas Aquinas| 5.4.12 @ 11:40PM
If he is a resident of one of the many States in The United States which have legalized same-sex marriage..HE IS MARRIED,WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT....."
Actually, he is not. If the state of New York declared by statute that all cats were now dogs, it would not make it so. If the state of New York said that one can marry oneself, or one's pet, or an inanimate object, it would not make it so.
Two people of the same sex can no more marry than can Dan Savage claim that he is a lesbian.
Pelleas| 5.5.12 @ 12:09AM
If two people of the same sex marry, according the laws which permit them to do so then,, BY THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, THEY ARE LAWFULLY MARRIED
If you choose to ignore the provisions which the LAW provides --that is YOUR personal issue/problem/ hang-up--BUT no matter how hard you object to it, THERE IS ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO DENY the parties their rights, UNDER THE LAW...
By throwing in impossible situations-- marrying dogs, or one's self, all you are doing is grasping at straws--pretty MORONIC ones, at that!
Ground Control| 5.5.12 @ 9:21AM
When the People vote to enact a law that makes marriage between a man and a woman, it is a "violation of rights" (which is ludicrous) and the courts must take over and nullify the law. Now that the New York legislature passed a "law" that makes homosexual "marriage" legal, we must respect the law. Hypocrite. Liar. Jerk.
When the People speak it is to be overturned by government. When government speaks in opposition to the People, the government must be obeyed. This hypocrisy is quite consistent with your other rants on every subject.
Frankly, I find you to be a tiresome, dim witted fool, and quite stupid. You are a waste of time.
Pelleas| 5.5.12 @ 9:32AM
Since I didn't insult you personally to begin with, your inexplicable response is obviously due to some real serious mental issue--which I would advise getting help for ASAP-- or at least..STAY OFF THE STREETS.
"Tiresome, dim witted fool"-- BASED ON WHAT, EXACTLY-?-- THAT I RESPECT THE LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED BY MY ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES?-- OR THAT MY LIFE IS NOT YOURS?
On to you| 5.5.12 @ 3:31PM
Can those two people be brother?
Pelleas| 5.8.12 @ 12:40AM
No-- as incest is not sanctioned, by the LAW-- nor will it ever be...
LMajito| 5.4.12 @ 7:01AM
The question i can't find an answer to is: did not these young christians learned who were the speakers at this event?
if i'm schedule to go to a camp and find that either the friar flagler or his mentor wright were going to be there, i would have pass the opportunity...
and using the humble galilean own words..."a bad tree can't give out good fruit...by their fruits you shall know them..."
there nothing about christian theology a homosexual can teach me or i will be willing to hear (and homosexual here means either gender).
i have been in company where a vast number of workers were adherents to the 'alternate lifestyle' and there is an emotional imbalance among this group...many are very ugly inside and always angry at life...
have i been in that auditorium, i would have walked up to the pulpit and put five knuckles in his mouth shutting it, period...
tolerance of these type of individuals is not virtue...
Appleby| 5.4.12 @ 7:22AM
That's not what Jesus would have done. At least, none of the books in which He was cast as Rambo seem to have entered the Canon, that I ever saw. But of course, the Old Testament is filled with that kind of response. And it's important to realize that "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" was a CONSERVATIVE position aimed at reining in the stuff we still unfortunately see in every Muslim country today.
Trebuchet| 5.4.12 @ 8:00AM
Matthew 21:12,
Jesus grabbed a stick and whacked the stuffin out of those that were desecrating the Temple. If anybody is guilty of desecration it's Little Danny Savage.
Seek| 5.4.12 @ 1:06PM
Ancient peace, love and understanding, no doubt.
Skippy| 5.5.12 @ 4:54PM
Whatever works.
LMajito| 5.4.12 @ 9:01AM
Another guy who thinks Jesus was this meek efete sweet manered individual who allowed one and all to walk all over him...
nice...but a close reading of the gospels show a different human being...called a woman a dog when she asked for a miracle, confronted his disciples and asked to leave if they so desired, labeled the high priests a 'brood of vipers', whiped and destroyed all the folks inside the temple walls in the outer court buying and selling items to be offered in sacrifices, never backed down from a confrontation and always tongue lashed his critics...even went further to tell the highest civilian power broker of day that he had no power over Him unless He allowed him to have it...
and then the image of revelation is not one of a meek manered wimp...John dropped to the ground when he turned around and saw Him...and this from the guy who placed his head on His chest during the last supper...
and then there are the command like...'the kingdom of heaven is made violent but the stong take it by force'...
don't know where you are getting your theological lessons but that's one reason the christians in the us are a bunch of wimps being tossed all over with no back bone...they run away from a fight with the excuse '...that's not what Jesus would have done...' oh yeah, he would allowed homosexuals to take over while looking the other way...
Mike 3/505| 5.4.12 @ 9:27AM
Miss Appleby,
God has an entire universe to run. I'm sure he wouldn't mind if a few of us stepped up on his behalf, else he wouldn't have invented a guy named BF Skinner and operant conditioning. :-)
Regards,
Mike
Vern Crisler| 5.4.12 @ 11:26AM
Good point Appleby. The eye/eye, tooth/tooth principle is merely the principle of equivalency in punishment, vis-a-vis extravagant and cruel punishment for minor crimes, overly light punishment for horrible crimes such as rape, murder, etc. It is simply the principle of justice described in a concrete, hyperbolic terms.
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 11:08AM
I "Love" the fact that the Christians on this site are so gung-ho to physically assault someone who says something that they disagree with.."Gimme that 'ol time religion", eh?
emilio lizardo, PhD| 5.4.12 @ 11:19AM
Yes, that's" the love your neighbor as yourself" part of Christianity these schmucks are espousing
Skippy| 5.5.12 @ 4:56PM
Pelleas:
Love your neighbor, if he'll let you.
And then go f*ck yourself.
PsychoDad| 5.6.12 @ 10:56AM
I "love" how Christian-haters are always the first to step up and tell Christians how they should be behaving.
Pelleas| 5.8.12 @ 12:37AM
Who said anything about "hating" Christians...?
James Solbakken | 5.7.12 @ 7:28PM
"Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 11:08AMI "Love" the fact that the Christians on this site are so gung-ho to physically assault someone who says something that they disagree with.."Gimme that 'ol time religion", eh?" What exactly led you to believe that Christian men would automatically allow you to fuck with their wives and babies? Hhhmmm?
Good Christian men are never more good than when they are ripping the guts out of those who threaten their families. Period. End of story.
Pelleas| 5.8.12 @ 12:35AM
WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO "FUCK with your wives and babies."..???
WHO is "threatening your families"??
That is the sickest..and most paranoid thing I have read on this thread, so far--which is saying a lot!
Jeamar| 5.4.12 @ 3:32PM
Quite likely these students did not know who was to speak at this event. Even if they had his name, I doubt the info. supplied to the students would mention what he was really going to speak about. It is even just as likely that the student sponsor for each school did not know the speaker was going to get into vulgar descriptions of his sexual proclivities nor to rant against the Bible. The students and their parents [probably] had confidence that whomever the school(s) involved in this field trip-camp had the best interests of their children in mind. Snakes in he grass tend to jump out of no where to bite you.
Indy| 5.4.12 @ 8:36AM
There are many companies / organizations that support "It gets Better" but I have not heard one speak out against Savage, nor have any "leaders" in DC. Savage has close ties to POTUS, he has visited the WH, nobody calls him out for the way he behaved, how can you preach against bullying yet use bully tactics?
Thank you students for walking out and for their teacher who has spoken out, he had no idea this would happen and is sorry for putting them in this situation.
Mark| 5.4.12 @ 8:44AM
Savage through his own bullying is compensating for what he lacks in the bedroom!
MikeN| 5.4.12 @ 9:04AM
He also wrote a column about how he was licking doorknobs to make Gary Bauer sick.
emilio lizardo, PhD| 5.4.12 @ 9:14AM
Ah, the face of the lunatic fringe of the right: Homophobes, Bible Thumpers and Morons. You dont like Dan Savage? Then hit him where it hurts, ignore his column, the periodicals where it appears, and its sponsors. Y'all are as despicable as the Anarchists, Enviro-Geeks, Euro-trash Wannabe and Communists on the lunatic Left.
Todd S| 5.4.12 @ 10:04AM
What the hell are you talking about really? Are you referring to the article itself? This Dan Savage is a mentally unbalanced sicko who is welcomed to the White House with open arms and has been made the face of the "anti-bullying" campaign. And no one cares about your PhD, are we suppose to be impressed? Pathetic
emilio lizardo, PhD| 5.4.12 @ 10:08AM
You apparently are not a Bible Thumper, possibly a Homophobe, but clearly a Moron
Todd S| 5.4.12 @ 10:24AM
Must be a PhD is being an ahole
spike59| 5.5.12 @ 10:30AM
Todd, you can have a PhD just like 'emilio'; it's simple!
just type it in after your screen name, just like he did
PsychoDad| 5.6.12 @ 10:57AM
Ah, the civil discourse of Leftardery at is finest....
Frank Drackman| 5.4.12 @ 10:11AM
You know whats worse than Anarchists, Enviro-greeks, euro-trash commies??
A-holes who put "PhD" after there names.
I'm an MD, but do you see me bragging about how I'm already done paying FICA for the year?
Your PhD is about the same as the worn out underwear I use to wax my awesume 08'ZO6 with.
And I know, you can't end a sentence with a proposition, but I just did, and the world didn't end.
Actually the underwear's MORE useful than your stupid PhD.
Frank
Aces and Eights| 5.4.12 @ 10:46AM
"Homo" Greek for "self."
"Phobia" Greek for fear.
"Homophobia" ersatz Greek for "fear of self."
"Homophobe" is an empty term used as an epithet by simple minds who can't and won't engage in reasonable debate. You are really not very bright, are you?
emilio lizardo, PhD| 5.4.12 @ 11:03AM
Thanks for the etymology lesson. And probably a lot brighter than you think. And you DO know what happened to the guy holding aces and eights....
Aces and Eights| 5.4.12 @ 11:38AM
"And probably a lot brighter than you think."
If you wish this to be believed, I would suggest you dispense with inanities like "homophobe." This term is used in the absense of a logical argument by hyper-emotional non-thinkers.
And yes, I do know what happened to Mr. Hickok.
emilio lizardo, PhD| 5.4.12 @ 11:57AM
bet you dont know what the 5th card was, and what the collective take of the pathetic gaggle of louts, fascists, those who fear and loathe homosexuals (if you prefer this to homophobe), serfs, goose-steppers, cretins and pious hypocrites comprising this forum regarding yours truly and his opinions, I couldnt give a rat's ass.
Aces and Eights| 5.4.12 @ 12:09PM
The 5th card is disputed. As for the rest of your semi-literate diatribe, may I point out that historically, "louts," "fascists," and "serfs," are not known to crave one-another's company. Obviously your "PhD" is not in History. And frankly, the only cretinously pious hypocrite here so far today is yourself. Not to mention bigoted jackass.
emilio lizardo, PhD| 5.4.12 @ 2:02PM
particle physics. And only lawyers should use Esq. Curious why you hold the Dead Man's Hand.
Aces and Eights| 5.4.12 @ 2:41PM
I would not know why you find it "curious." It is just a handle. Nothing more.
emilio lizardo, PhD| 5.4.12 @ 3:00PM
It's not just a handle, the dead man's hand is worn on the emblem of our military's forensic pathology branch and I seriously doubt you are a forensic pathologist, but I could be wrong. I am thinking Snake Eyes might be a better handle for you.
Aces and Eights| 5.4.12 @ 3:56PM
Obviously you do not understand simple English. I am not a forensic pathologist. I use it as a handle and that is all.
While in the same vein, I would think "Five Aces" would be perfect for you, since there are only four in a deck.
Skippy| 5.5.12 @ 4:58PM
Snort!
PsychoDad| 5.6.12 @ 10:58AM
Well, there's a top example of leftard intellectualism.
The Big E| 5.4.12 @ 12:26PM
Lizardo,
I've seen nothing in your comments to indicate that you're particularly bright. You do not engage in any form of intellectual debate, but instead resort to ad hominem attacks on anyone who disagrees with you. It appears to me that you do nothing but repeat the platitudes of others, and either lack a true understanding of the issues, or the mental flexibity to engage intellectually with people who actually think and reason for themselves.
As for your Ph.D., I have found throughout my life that those who attempt to defend their positions by citing their credentials are doing so out of insecurity, or else in an effort to cover up their laziness. In other words, your degree (assuming you're being honest about that) not only does not impress me, but actually sends a signal that you are either insecure in your own intellect, or else are intellectually lazy.
Undoubtedly, your response to this will be yet another bit of name-calling, since that appears to be the extent of your abilities. And let me assure you, I care a great deal more about the stinking pile some dog left on my lawn than I do about what you think of me, so have at it if that what helps you feel better about yourself.
Aces and Eights| 5.4.12 @ 12:32PM
Citing one's credentials is a logical fallacy known as "appeal to authority." It is used in the absence of a logical argument. I think you've got lizardo pegged. No doubt his next post will be signed "e. lizardo, esq."
Moe Blotz| 5.4.12 @ 12:41PM
Educational progression:
BS : Bull Excrement
MS : More of the Same
PHD : Piled Higher and Deeper
emilio lizardo, PhD| 5.4.12 @ 1:58PM
I'd be glad to offer an opinion, erudite, informed and to the point, free from ad hominem attacks on any topic you'd care to name. Maybe we could start with responsible pet ownership, seeing as you seem to be the recipient of some unwanted gifts from the canine community
Aces and Eights| 5.4.12 @ 2:45PM
"I'd be glad to offer an opinion, erudite, informed and to the point, free from ad hominem attacks on any topic you'd care to name."
Really? You had that opportunity today with the subject at hand (see article above.) So far you offered nothing that was "erudite, informed, or to the point," and have posted little more than ad hominem attacks. This is a waste of time.
The Big E| 5.4.12 @ 3:59PM
If you'd be gld to, then why haven't you? There has been an erudite, informed and interesting discussion going on on this very issue all day, and yet you have "chosen" to add nothing of intelectual value. Even when directly challenged to do so, you responded with the equivalent of, "Well, I could if I wanted to, but . . . I just don't want to right now."
From that, I can only conclude you are incapable of adding anything of intelectual value to the discussion.
Proof positive, if ever I saw it, of the old Jerry Clower line that some people are educated far beyond their intelligence.
emilio lizardo, PhD| 5.4.12 @ 4:21PM
I believe I did, and in my opening post. To wit, Dan Savage is an entertainment figure, and if you take offense at what he is selling, then the way to hurt him is to ignore him and the outlets and sponsors who pay his freight. That is my thesis here. And far from an erudite discussion, the above posts are a composite of profanities, imbecilities, Bible thumping, feigned outrage from "Snake Eyes" and an admixture of various and sundry BS and bilge.
Aces and Eights| 5.4.12 @ 4:26PM
Horse manure. And nothing I wrote can be construed as "outrage," feigned or otherwise.
I stand by my original assessment, you are not very bright. This last post of yours proves it. Have a nice day.
The Big E| 5.4.12 @ 4:49PM
Lizardo,
You mean the comment that started out, "Ah, the face of the lunatic fringe of the right: Homophobes, Bible Thumpers and Morons?" That comment? That's what you refer to as an erudite and informed comment?
Oh, yeah, and if you don't like him then ignore him. That's the sort of brilliance that earned you a Ph.D.?
You sir, are obviously WAY out of your depth here.
spike59| 5.5.12 @ 10:33AM
i suspect that he didn't actually EARN a PhD; he just typed it, much like most 'internet faux intellectuals do'
PsychoDad| 5.6.12 @ 11:00AM
The way leftards are happy to "just ignore" Beck and Limbaugh, and not engage on bat-swinging crusades to terrorize their commercial sponsors. Oh no, leftards respect the 1st Am. MUCH too much to do something like that!
Roy| 5.7.12 @ 7:48PM
And not to mention, this being the Internet, claims as to credentials are of no value, even beyond their dubious relevance.
Charlene| 5.4.12 @ 12:21PM
In Latin, Homo means man. The genuine haters that cry out HOMOPHOBE at every opportunity will need to be specific. Latin HOMOPHOBE or Greek HOMOPHOBE.
cuban pete| 5.4.12 @ 1:20PM
A & E
I have heard homo equated with same.
Hence, homophobic could mean fear of sameness.
A homophobe could be a person with a fear or hatred of copy machines.
In any event it is an empty term.
Have a pleasant weekend.
Aces and Eights| 5.4.12 @ 2:46PM
"...fear...of copy machines." Interesting. This could explain a lot. :-)
Kyle| 5.4.12 @ 9:48AM
meh...
David W| 5.4.12 @ 10:40AM
Once, just once, I wish a Christian would not be so Christian and beat the holy crap out of one of these bastards. Just once, and as they do it yell out that the bastard is a "Christianphobe" and a "Jesus Hater" and "I can't take this hatred anymore."
Hopefully God would understand.
LMajito| 5.4.12 @ 11:21AM
oh that the borgia's popes would come back...
Vern Crisler| 5.4.12 @ 12:09PM
Then we'd be Moslems.
Seek| 5.4.12 @ 1:08PM
He wouldn't be a Christian, then. Assault and battery, moreover, is not only un-Christian, it's a felony. It's also an expression of pure hatred.
Skippy| 5.5.12 @ 5:03PM
So?
Maybe I do hate him.
Seek = Stupid Liberal| 5.5.12 @ 9:52PM
Holy shit you are stupid.
Christians are not sinless and they know it.
Christians do not deny that they sin nor do they deny the sin that they commit is not a sin.
Christians know that they are commanded to hate sin.
Christians know that they are to separate the sinner from the sin in others as well as themselves.
Christians know that when they fail to love the sinner and hate the sin that they are committing a sin.
Christians know they are to hate the sin of homosexuality and to love the homosexual sinner.
That is easier said than done to keep the sin and the sinner separate when homosexuals who do not believe in sin accuse Christians of sinning for not accepting their homosexual sin.
That and the fact that homosexuals defy simple common sense and basic human nature in such a disgusting revolting loathsome way that God commands no one to do because it is so abominable and detestable.
It is not easy for a rational person with common sense to reason with a person so stupid and immoral they use sewer pipes for sex.
On top of all this there is still not a shred of justification for sanctioning homosexuals or homosexuality even from a purely secular rationale as well as from a legal perspective even if the asinine assumption is made that rights are granted by men and not endowed by God.
And, seekilio stupidliberalo, PhD, what in the Christian concept of hell IS your PhD in?
Matt| 5.7.12 @ 5:20PM
Seek = Stupid Liberal,
Thank you, thank you very much!
Aces and Eights| 5.4.12 @ 10:51AM
This "person's" TV show is on MTV. Hmmm....
1. Boycott MTV. Call your service provider and ask to have MTV removed from your channel lineup.
2. The taxpaying parents of the unfortunate kids who attended this farce should demand that their school districts not involve themselves with the National High School Journalism Conference and any of its sponsors.
Vern Crisler| 5.4.12 @ 12:09PM
Who watches MTV nowadays?
Aces and Eights| 5.4.12 @ 12:30PM
Someone must! It is plastered all over my Dish Network channel listing. I wish I could drop it, but a la carte programming is severely limited. MTV is trash and has been for about 25 years.
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 2:17PM
It's rather odd, that just last month the right-wing had it's collective panties in a bunch, when "the other side" was advocating boycotts of Hush Bimbo.
While I actually am in support of economic boycotts as a political tool-- i wish the Right-Wing would show some consistency in their philosophies... it's making me a mite dizzy try to follow their (lack of ) reasoning
Aces and Eights| 5.4.12 @ 2:50PM
If you want to boycott, go ahead. No one is stopping you. And no one's panties are in a bunch. I think you are dizzy from something other than anyone's reasoning, since you offer none of your own.
PsychoDad| 5.6.12 @ 11:01AM
There's a difference between boycotting and engaging in a concerted conspiracy of blackmail and moral terrorism in order to dissuade advertisers not to sponsor certain programs.
Frank Drackman| 5.4.12 @ 11:17AM
Ahhh for the more dignified days of the 19th Century, where a Smegma-Breathed Slug like Dean Savage would have to defend his slander with pistols or daggers...
Santorum should just give him a righteous Pimp Slap, it'd be worth the law suit.
Frank
cowgirl| 5.4.12 @ 11:54AM
If Savage is so comfortable and so sure about who he is and what he believes, then why the uncontrollable anger?
spike59| 5.5.12 @ 10:34AM
i believe you've answered your own question
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 12:47PM
As a Gay man--and as a agnostic Jew-- I can not bring myself to enthusiastically come to Dan Savage's defense in this particular matter-- while at the same time , I can not help but scratch my noggin at the questions asked here "Why does he seem so angry"?
The fears and loathings of Homosexuals--, by bigots, as exhibited on this site, iteslf-- is a good place to brew up some hatreds against organized religion, in return, no? ( OR , at least, UNDERSTANDABLE....)
Frank Drackman| 5.4.12 @ 1:11PM
Homo says what???
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 1:48PM
Frank"
I repeat the same thing I told you when you were grunting in pleasure, in bed , last night---REMEMBER??
Skippy| 5.5.12 @ 5:07PM
Gay men have always been totally absorbed with sex.
No love, no caring, no commitment, just grunting sodomy.
No wonder you guys are marginalized and angry about it. You earn such easy dismissal through ypour actions.
Nobody but you cares a whit what happens to you.
Really.
Todd S| 5.4.12 @ 1:16PM
I personally do not care what lifestyle you or Dan Savage choose but I don't have to approve of it or believe gay marriage has any legitimacy. It never has before in any society regardless of religion or culture. And this whole anti-bullying movement is a complete sham as long as someone like Dan Savage is the one leading it, obviously he gets off on bullying young teenagers himself.
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 2:29PM
Todd:
You can not "personally not care" on the one hand, and then say "I do not approve/it has no legitimacy"
Those two opposing statements cancel each other out, nu?
I, on the other hand, don't give a rat's ass whether you "approve" of my life... but DEMAND that it be considered as "legitimate" as anyone elses...
Todd S| 5.4.12 @ 3:57PM
Yes I don't care what you do behind closed doors but don't tell me that society has to legitimize gay marriage when it is an oxymoron.
beebop2| 5.4.12 @ 6:43PM
Hat tip to Eric Clapton:
'I don't care what you do at night
Oh, I don't care how you get you delites
We'll leave it alone and just let it be
I don't love you and you don't love me'
Or, as my grand mother by marriage might have said, "schtupp who you want, just don't do it on the front portch with the lights on .... "
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 7:25PM
Gay people are no more prone to "schtupping" on the porch, the straight people.
All we are demanding is all the same rights you have--nothing more, NOTHING LESS...
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 7:26PM
that should have read..." no more prone to, then straight people are...."
beebop2| 5.4.12 @ 8:13PM
Perhaps I should have been clearer for you who appears to shoulder obtuseness like it is a badge of honor: So long as a sexual act is committed between two consenting adults, I don't give a rat's ass. But Dan Savage is a punk. Pure and simple. A big, tall, well muscled bully PUNK
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 9:21PM
And--I am "obtuse", EXACTLY HOW?, by responding to your pointed question?
.. you're a liar, btw-- it is quite obvious that you do "give a rat's ass", out of you own fears and hatreds
beebop2| 5.5.12 @ 6:20AM
I know that your victimhood is one of your most prized possessions, but even you have to understand that women really don't want to get involved either romantically or emotionally (beyond friendship) with a man who is more interested in another man? So have at it, dear boy. But don't for a moment think its marriage.
Pelleas| 5.5.12 @ 7:27AM
But WHY would a Gay man have any desire to get "involved" with a Woman, for other then friendship, anyhow?
And I AM -- OBTUSE...????
AND I AM NOT A "BOY"..OR YOUR "DEAR".. ( at least not on the first date, SWEETY....)
NOR AM I A "VICTIM"...!!
Riff Raff| 5.5.12 @ 9:15AM
You sure ACT like a "victim." Pathetic. You need help.
Pelleas| 5.5.12 @ 9:35AM
I KNOW that I am not the one in "need" of HELP, here....
BTW.. HOW am I "acting" like a victim?
On to you| 5.5.12 @ 3:28PM
Because he is not a "gay" man. The term is nonsensical.
spike59| 5.5.12 @ 10:36AM
'than'...try borrowing emilio's PhD
albert constantine jr.| 5.5.12 @ 9:18PM
"that should have read...' no more prone to, then straight people are....' "
then, or than...
Robert Szeged| 5.4.12 @ 1:33PM
So, you can relate to anti-Christian bigot Dan Savage as both a homosexual and a Jew. Big deal.
Robert Szeged| 5.4.12 @ 1:27PM
Daniel,
On the one hand, you wander why Americans are taking advice from a "mentally unbalanced guy," like Savage; yet on the other hand, you refer to the people who think that homosexuality is a gross aberration as "homophobic idiots." I am afraid it's you who is a (useful) idiot for Savage and his ilk. The onslaught of homosexual propaganda and bullying will not be pushed back unless the gloves are taken off and people start calling homosexuality what it actually is - a gross, morally repugnant and physically repulsive sexual perversion with a knack for child molestation - and exposing the homosexual practice, their depraved lifestyle.
You're absolutely right, Daniel, when you say Savage is a mentally unbalanced guy. But you should have the guts to finish your argument - he's mentally unhinged of what he and his partner do to each other.
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 2:07PM
"physically repulsive sexual perversion"
Try it, ya might like it...!!
It can not be any grosser (to me, at least) then heterosexual rutting.......
On to you| 5.5.12 @ 3:27PM
Just leave the kids alone.
Pelleas| 5.4.12 @ 2:08PM
"physically repulsive sexual perversion"
Try it, ya might like it...!!
It can not be any grosser (to me, at least) then heterosexual rutting.......
JimH| 5.4.12 @ 2:19PM
I wouldn’t read much into the name Savage. Doc Savage was pretty cool.
Purp| 5.4.12 @ 2:34PM
Unless you are a member of a persecuted class, you don't know anything that you are talking about. You're fat - I suppose you enjoy being called fatso or lard a**? And you think people should just shut up and take it? That's un-American. He's right to stand up for himself, and no one knows why kids leave a room, least of all you - maybe they had a hot date, or they were hungry. See? I can make up s* too.
Face it, the younger generation has no time for your bigotry and animosity toward those that aren't like them. They are the mature ones, you are the immature toddlers screaming to get your own way - at someone else's expense - and that is why you are losing and will continue to lose. Jesus is on the side of the tolerant, not your side.
Shiori| 5.5.12 @ 2:46AM
What was Savage 'defending himself' from exactly? What does the Bible say about homosexuality? Where does the Bible 'justify' beating up on gay people? What did Jesus say about turning brother against brother. About attacking his followers? About marriage? YOU HAVE NO IDEA. You are ignorant and want to believe that Christ approves of everything that you do. He does not. That does not mean He doesn't Love us. That's why He died for us - to pay for our sins, that doesn't mean that He approves of our sins. Frivolous divorce, adultery, fornication, etc., are all sins too - we're not allowed to beat up people who commit those sins either. God loves us all, but like our parents, He does not approve of every decision we make. If you want to debate, fine. But none of you ever bother to learn the Bible before you start wagging your self-righteous finger. You ignorantly, and very arrogantly assume that Jesus Christ must agree with you, and despises those whom you despise. Sorry kid - but it's your side who are the intolerant bigots. Do not presume to speak for Jesus when you've clearly never studied His words.
Ground Control| 5.5.12 @ 9:23AM
"Persecuted class" is the term of the professional "victim." People who relish victimhood and seek it at every opportunity. This is you. Pathetic.
spike59| 5.5.12 @ 10:40AM
who and/or what, exactly, was Savage 'standing up to' when he was screeching and ranting against the Bible and Christians? was the students' leaving the room some sort of 'attack?' is that the new definition of 'attack': an unwillingness to sit quietly while someone profanely rants about your beliefs?
On to you| 5.5.12 @ 3:23PM
Purp, just leave the kids alone. What you do to adults is your own business.
Skippy| 5.5.12 @ 5:21PM
I'd be happy to persecute the Perp.
It's fun!
Wow Purp Has A Point Sort Of| 5.6.12 @ 12:39AM
As a member of not just a persecuted class but the most persecuted class in the country, the richest 1% of the population, I have to pay more in taxes than 95 others out of every 100 people. To make matters worse, I am subject to continuous harrassment, discrimination, prejudism and outright bigotry, from the same 95 out of every 100 people that 'vote' to steal the money right out of my pocket that don't even have the self respect to support themselves, and even from the president who demands I pay even more as my fair share.
If that ain't persecution nothing is.
USMC MOS 2841| 5.4.12 @ 2:38PM
When will Mr. Savage take his anti-bullying message to Tehran, Mecca, Riyadh, or even Bradford England?
Skippy| 5.5.12 @ 5:21PM
On the last day of his life, that's when.
Carnifex| 5.4.12 @ 2:43PM
Savage wishes he knew how to quit Mitt Romney.
His anti-Romney rants are really against himself for being attracted to a man he considers "evil".
Skippy| 5.5.12 @ 5:22PM
Sounds like he has a mancrush on the Mittster.
zamoracarl| 5.4.12 @ 7:48PM
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POST American| 5.5.12 @ 12:06AM
---ALERT!---
This article, quite obviously capstone
'authorized' ---smudges the TRUTH of
Mosaic Law.
Shellfish et al ---are matters of the the
Christ abolished ceremonial law.
---As far as adultery, sodomy, exterminating
the old, unborn and unfit etc. -----the MORAL
LAW is eternally in force.
Like it or not ---that's the way it is.
BE NOT DECEIVED
Alleena| 5.5.12 @ 1:54AM
Why should any young people be exposed to this man? What connection do his comments have with high school journalism?
Shiori| 5.5.12 @ 2:28AM
“It’s funny, as someone who’s been on the receiving end of beatings that are justified by the Bible..."
Where in the Bible does it say that beating up innocent people, gay or otherwise, is permissible let alone justified? Is this idiot actually going by Fred Phelps' version of the Bible? Proving further that Phelps is still very much a typical left wing Democrat who seeks primarily to defame the Bible and Christianity in general. Does Savage show his audience these passages in the Bible that command he be beaten for being gay? They exist in the Koran, but not the Bible. But Savage is too much of a sniveling coward to 'defend himself' from an audience of fundamentalist Muslims. The Left always attacks those who will not defend themselves. That's the definition of a bully last I checked. This disingenuous fraud, and mindless political tool of the Left, cares nothing for the real oppression of gays in the third world - he only wants to have a spectacular tantrum and take out all his shortcomings as a human being on the usual imaginary foes of the hypocritical leftist elite. What a pathetic creature.
Fluffy| 5.5.12 @ 4:26AM
Savage use to be just annoying back in the early 90s when I lived in Seattle. Now he is a nasty little prick and more well known. the questions he gets from ignorant teenagers only require some common sense, anybody could do his job.
Protect the sanctity of Marriage: Ban Divorce
Babeu for Congress!!
Oldefarte| 5.5.12 @ 11:56AM
Your statement '.....Pelleas| 5.5.12 @ 12:09AM....If two people of the same sex marry, according the laws which permit them to do so then,, BY THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, THEY ARE LAWFULLY MARRIED....If you choose to ignore the provisions which the LAW provides --that is YOUR personal issue/problem/ hang-up--BUT no matter how hard you object to it, THERE IS ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO DENY the parties their rights, UNDER THE LAW...By throwing in impossible situations-- marrying dogs, or one's self, all you are doing is grasping at straws--pretty MORONIC ones, at that!....' is incorrect, in that MAN'S LAW [ie NY LAW] derives its authority from the NATURAL LAW of G-d [ie THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT MURDER becomes STATE LAWS AGAINST MURDER]. Since you do not acknowledge the NATURAL LAW, it is therefore a waste of time to argue with you regarding same. You will, however, do so and understand its ramifications [as will we all] upon your death, whereupon the NATURAL LAW will then become applied to your life's activities and whether or not you lived according to said law. Take care, and have a good life!!!!!!!!
Pelleas| 5.5.12 @ 1:49PM
The IS NO SUCH THING AS "NATURAL LAW" OR "GOD'S LAW" when discussing the SECULAR laws of a RATIONAL State--PERIOD!!
To say otherwise, we would have to be living in a theocracy --which we ARE NOT.....
Oldefarte| 5.6.12 @ 10:54AM
Just don't stand close to me at your death, since I don't want to get sucked into the opening of the trap door that sends you types SOUTH, okay?????
PsychoDad| 5.6.12 @ 11:05AM
I think a few people who drafted and signed both the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution would disagree with that there is neither "Natural Law" nor"God's Law."
On to you| 5.5.12 @ 3:26PM
Laws can not change the definition of words. No state can legalized homosexual marriage, because that is a contradiction in terms.
Pelleas| 5.5.12 @ 4:05PM
WELL--- THEY HAVE, WHETHER YOU, in your extreme cliose-minded-ness, can accept it , or not---TOO BAD...!!
Oldefarte| 5.6.12 @ 11:04AM
'They have'? Shazam! There were also MAN MADE LAWS ALLOWING SLAVERY etc at one point in time. So what? Man is not perfect and makes mistakes/errors, and his human laws legislated are no exception. God's NATURAL LAW is infallible, however; and everyone and every man will determine same at their respective deaths!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pelleas| 5.6.12 @ 1:54PM
You're correct- Man's Laws are often not perfect- and many times need to be changed.....
Since there is nothing in reality called "God's Laws"- that is a moot point...
Roy| 5.7.12 @ 7:52PM
Where "imperfect" = "in disagreement with you".
Pete| 5.6.12 @ 11:36AM
No they haven't. How about I change the definition of homosexuality to mutual masterbation? Can I make that law.
On to you| 5.5.12 @ 3:26PM
Laws can not change the definition of words. No state can legalized homosexual marriage, because that is a contradiction in terms.
Pelleas| 5.6.12 @ 12:28PM
WHICH word "contradicts" which term, eh?
Pelleas| 5.6.12 @ 12:32PM
Marriage
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For other uses, see Marriage (disambiguation).
"Married" and "Matrimony"
Marriage (also called matrimony or wedlock) is a social union or legal contract between people that creates kinship. The definition of marriage varies according to different cultures, but is usually an institution in which interpersonal relationships, usually intimate and sexual, are acknowledged. Such a union is often formalized via a wedding ceremony. Many cultures limit marriage to two persons of the opposite sex, but some allow forms of polygamous marriage, and some recognize same-sex marriage. In some conservative cultures, marriage is recommended or compulsory before pursuing any sexual activity.
People marry for many reasons, including one or more of the following: legal, social, libidinal, emotional, economic, spiritual, and religious. These might include arranged marriages, family obligations, the legal establishment of a nuclear family unit, the legal protection of children and public declaration of commitment.[1][2] The act of marriage usually creates normative or legal obligations between the individuals involved. Some cultures allow the dissolution of marriage through divorce or annulment.
Marriage can be recognized by a state, an organization, a religious authority, a tribal group, a local community or peers. It is often viewed as a contract. Civil marriage is the legal concept of marriage as a governmental institution irrespective of religious affiliation, in accordance with marriage laws of the jurisdiction.
On to you| 5.6.12 @ 1:40PM
Lets say wikipedia and New York deside to change the definition of a women to anyone who has X chromosomes. Does that make the definition valid? They do not have the right to make up definitions for the rest of us. I might define homosexuality as mutual masterbation. Then I could get a state to pass a law with that definition. Is that acceptable to you and would that cause you to now accept it as the official definition of homosexuality? You see two can play that game.
Pelleas| 5.6.12 @ 1:50PM
UNFORTUNATELY- YOUR "GAME " is based on ignorance, religious repression, and hatred- so the playing field is far from even...!
Lively & Carefree Maybe . . .| 5.6.12 @ 3:35PM
. . . Bright most definitely not.
Marriage is the union of a man and a woman.
Always has been. Always will be.
Just like the tail on Odogma's meal will never ever ever be the meal's Jolly Cheerful fifth leg no matter how you feel about that - and no matter how many times you say you feel that way about it.
Which you would know if you were at all Bright.
Pelleas| 5.6.12 @ 3:44PM
..so "Brightness" is measured by how closely it conforms to your own thinking?
That's a pretty narrow and closed -minded way of existence, no?
Lively & Carefree Maybe . . .| 5.6.12 @ 5:08PM
A person, of any brightness, whether narrowly closed-minded or widely open-minded, will logically not choose to heed the words of:
"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable"
(The Lord God Almighty Creator of heaven and earth to Moses, followed over thousands upon thousands of years by billions upon billions of persons, persons as a group known throughout history to be the most prosperous and compassionate persons the world has ever known, Leviticus 18:22 @ The Bible)
but rather, will instead heed the words of:
" "physically repulsive sexual perversion"
Try it, ya [sic] might like it...!! It can not [sic] be any grosser (to me, at least) then [sic] heterosexual rutting [sic]....... "
(one person known only as an anonymous internet poster, one that has named himself 'fckewe' in posts, 5.4.12 @ 2:07pm)
" "physically repulsive sexual perversion"
Try it, ya [sic] might like it...!! It can not [sic] be any grosser (to me, at least) then [sic] heterosexual rutting [sic]....... "
(one person known only as an anonymous internet poster, one that has named himself 'fckewe' in posts, 5.4.12 @ 2:08pm)
On to you| 5.6.12 @ 6:41PM
Your game is forced on you hatred of religion, contempt for morality and of course an appeal to ignorance.
On to you| 5.6.12 @ 1:41PM
Uh, dufus, if two words are contradictory, each word contradicts the other. The left is full of morons.
Pelleas| 5.6.12 @ 2:53PM
The Left might have its fair share of "morons"-- they do exist in all groups, granted..but, it appears that the Right consists of more then its fair share of folks who cannot argue their case in any meaningful manner with out resorting to name calling, --and most tellingly-- talking in circles, without explaining what they mean---other then "saying it, makes it so.."
On to you| 5.6.12 @ 6:39PM
I explained it, but obviously logic is not your strong suit.
WillyP | 5.5.12 @ 2:24PM
Nebraska's Black Football Coach Ron Brown Attacked For Asserting Homosexuality Is A Sin (Video)
beebop2| 5.6.12 @ 6:22AM
It would do so much for the future of this great nation if gays could think with the bigger head rather than politicize every facet of the small one. Just sayin' .....
PsychoDad| 5.6.12 @ 11:06AM
When I was in college and ina psychology course, EVERY casebook we studied had one or two case histories of homosexuals being treated. It is a mental illness, pure and simple, no different than bestio- or pedophilia.
Pelleas| 5.6.12 @ 12:25PM
Psycho:
What Century was that?.. The 19th..?
I don't know if you've heard- even such conservative trade organizations as the APA and The AMA have discarded such a neanderthal-ish outlook
Pelleas| 5.6.12 @ 12:26PM
..concerning homosexuality, that is....
On to you| 5.6.12 @ 1:42PM
You mean mutual masterbation between two people of the same sex.
Pelleas| 5.6.12 @ 1:47PM
On"
If THAT is your SOLE concept of what being Gay is- or what homosexual sex , in all its varieties entails,is,- YOU need to get out a little more, nu?
On to you| 5.6.12 @ 6:38PM
There is no such thing as being Gay? You are trying to elevate you behavior into an identity. Which is fine, as thats your business, but don't expect the rest of us to accept it.
michigander_sandusky| 5.6.12 @ 10:12PM
Although I find Mr. Savage's behavior reprehensible he is still a human being for whom Christ shed His blood on the cross. Romans 5:8 comes to mind. I pity people like Mr. Savage because, unless he changes his tune, he's going to have a long, long time in a very hot and very dark place to contemplate his poor choice when grace and mercy were available to him. May God's desire be our desire per 1 Timothy 2:4.
chaussures jordan | 5.7.12 @ 3:55AM
good!
Marc Jeric| 5.8.12 @ 12:23PM
When your sexual preferences go to assholes, it is inevitable that you become an asshole yourself.
Pelleas| 5.8.12 @ 3:47PM
and when your preferences go to cunts..what does that make you, eh..?
Rollando| 5.9.12 @ 11:07AM
It makes you "Pelleas". In fact, both make you "Pelleas".