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A Further Perspective
The War on Terror Isn’t Over
Does our president think the Taliban wouldn’t give safe harbor to al Qaeda if again given the opportunity?
It has been said that in pursuit of re-election President Obama he cannot run on his record. After all, the stimulus bill did not stimulate the economy. The country has nearly accumulated more debt under this President than the 43 men who preceded him. Obamacare may very well be deemed unconstitutional next month and even if it isn’t, it is still very unpopular with a critical mass of the American electorate.
President Obama does, however, have one thing to which he can point and has already begun to do so - the killing of Osama bin Laden. One year has now passed since founder of al Qaeda met his maker. Yes, Team 6 did the heavy lifting but it was President Obama who gave the order.
The day before word got out that bin Laden had been killed, I was at Ground Zero with my father lamenting the horror of what had happened nearly a decade earlier and how it changed the way I view the world and the nature of man.
A little over 36 hours later, Ground Zero was full of people grateful to our military heroes for giving bin Laden his day of reckoning. I must admit that at the time I thought President Obama’s re-election was all but a lock. In response to a post by Jim Antle, I wrote:
Jim is right to say this doesn’t guarantee Obama’s re-election. After all, the election is still 18 months away and anything could happen. But barring a catastrophe it becomes increasingly difficult to see how Obama can lose. And by catastrophe I am talking about an even bigger financial meltdown than the one experienced in 2008. If there was another terrorist attack in this country on the scale of 9/11 or greater in retaliation for bin Laden’s killing I believe the nation would rally around Obama (unless he were to handle it abysmally). The electorate is more likely to turn on Obama over our pocketbooks rather than over our security.
But if a week in politics is a lifetime, then being just over six months away from Election Day is an eternity. Team Obama isn’t taking any chances. An Obama campaign ad released last week featuring former President Bill Clinton implies that Mitt Romney would not have made the decision to kill bin Laden. These sentiments have been echoed in a speech by Vice President Biden last Thursday and in remarks by former White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs on Meet the Press last Sunday. This narrative will only continue in intensity over the next half year.
Yet it is the very same Obama Administration that is engaged in negotiations with the Taliban in Afghanistan, an entity that was more than content to harbor al Qaeda. Is there any reason to believe the Taliban wouldn’t be happy to continue harboring al Qaeda or any other organization that seeks to do harm to the United States? Yet what you can expect of an administration that also takes the position that the War on Terror is over? According to an unnamed State Department official:
The war on terror is over. Now that we have killed most of al Qaida, now that people have come to see legitimate means of expression, people who once might have gone into al Qaida see an opportunity for a legitimate Islamism.
As Tom Blumer of Newsbusters so poignantly asks:
If it’s so over, then why were government officials referenced in Kimberly Dozier’s Associated Press report this evening about the state of Al Qaida a year after Osama Bin Laden’s death “on condition of anonymity because they say publicly identifying themselves could make them a target of the terrorist group”?
Here is how I put it in my initial commentary following bin Laden’s death:
Under the circumstances, bin Laden’s death helps to fill that void and does bring some measure of comfort. However, I am also under no illusions that our fight against Islamic fundamentalism is over. Far from it.
With this in mind, I found little reassurance in President Obama’s statement. Once again he insisted “the United States is not — and never will be — at war with Islam.” Such a sentiment utterly misses the point because a not so insignificant segment of the Muslim world is at war with us and Obama does us a disservice to pretend otherwise. Indeed, bin Laden is now a martyr to his followers and they will have a greater resolve to see to it that bin Laden’s 1998 fatwa declaring war against the United States is implemented. Under that fatwa it is the duty of all Muslims to kill Americans be they military personnel or civilians.
So let us not forget that Nidal Malik Hasan shouted “Allahu Akbar” as he gunned down thirteen U.S. soldiers at Fort Hood. Let us also not forget that if not for a vigilant citizenry more innocent civilians could have died on American soil at the hands of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab (a.k.a. The Underwear Bomber) aboard Northwest Airlines Flight 253 on Christmas Day, 2009, and Faisal Shahzad in Times Square exactly two years ago. All three men were inspired by American born Anwar al-Awlaki who was killed by a U.S. drone in Yemen last September. Both bin Laden and al-Awlaki might be dead but the Obama Administration should not delude itself into thinking that there aren’t others ready to take their place.
I am well aware that we are a country weary from more than a decade of war in Afghanistan and Iraq. But the uncomfortable truth is that there are still jihadists who wish to kill Americans here and abroad and have the means to carry out their evil intentions. We are only a box cutter away from a painful reminder that the War on Terror isn’t over.
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Clint| 5.1.12 @ 6:59AM
" Michael Scheuer, the former chief of the Central Intelligence Agency’s (CIA's) Osama bin Laden unit, told the U.K. Daily Telegraph in a recent interview he was prevented from capturing or killing the terrorist by his superiors on at least 10 separate occasions.
In 1995, Scheuer was selected to lead the spy agency’s bin Laden efforts. By then the militant Islamist was exiled in Sudan after angering Saudi authorities. Bin Laden was running several businesses in the African nation that Scheuer suggested disrupting. “We formulated operations and submitted them for approval but they would not approve any of them,” the ex-CIA official told the Daily Telegraph. “If we had been able to deal a serious economic blow it could have been a show-stopper.”
Scheuer told the Telegraph that following the missed opportunities to kill or capture bin Laden in 1998, there were at least eight other chances to get the terror mastermind. By that point, bin Laden was supposedly among the U.S. government’s most wanted criminals. But for some unknown reason, senior officials refused to authorize his capture or assassination.
“One 50-cent round could have put us all out of our agony,” Scheuer explained. But that didn’t happen, as high-level authorities consistently ordered the CIA unit not to stop bin Laden."
Jack in Wi.| 5.1.12 @ 7:24AM
Obama is going to run as the guy who got Bin Laden, ended the Iraq war and is bringing the troops home from Aganistan. How is Willard Romney going to top that? On the economy he will continue to blame the Republicans, the rich, and Republican obstructionism.
With 50 milllion on food stamps, and many people scratching for money, now is not the time to take on the entitlements. Romney has an even worse bunch of neocons running his foreign policy then Bush did. The people don't want any more of their lies and nonsense. Obama will run as the peace candidate again, and trounce an inarticulate warmonger like Romney.
On killing Bin Laden and what happened to the body, those are good questions. Why was their no attempt to really to take him alive? After all would you not want Hitler to stand trial and get some answers from him, for example? The disappearance of the body is really fishy. For all we know all they killed was some rug merchant. Obama has a huge upper hand on the issue. After all Bush had almost 8 years to get the job done. Instead of concentrationing on Bin Laden, he bankrupted the country running round the world like a chicken with his head cut off. Iraq and Iran had nothing to do with 9/11.
Paul Bot| 5.1.12 @ 8:31AM
There is no war on terror. There was never a war on terror. The WTC episodes are examples of blow back and nothing else. Islam is a religion of peace. Just ask the 60 million Indians that were given their final peace during the conquest of India. They shouldn't have sided with Israel. Wait there was no Israel at that time. Well you can bet there was some Jew somewhere that was up to no good. Coptic Christians must be Jews too since they like to blow up their churches. Life is simple in my little world. Ron Paul Il for emperor so he can do all the stuff he says that he would do. If we can't get him, how about Rand Paul Un?
Clint| 5.1.12 @ 8:42AM
Call Bibi, Israel Firster Smear Bund Poseur Poster Coward.
We Are Being Set Up By These Israel Firster RINO-CINO For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.
These Are The RINO-CINO Israel Firster Agendists, Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.
Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....
Paul Bot| 5.1.12 @ 9:36AM
You are the man. Screw Ron Paul. We have you and of course your pal Jack, the blow back brothers. Maybe he could be VP. You guys could sneak off on fishing trips while consumating your secret love for each other. We could call it Blow Back Mountain. Why should we settle for that old fart when we have young blood like you. I can even look past this thing you have for some guy named Bibi. There is really nothing wrong with those feelings you have. I really like the way you and Jack can take liberal ideas and turn them into bumper sticker ideas for your average Paul Bot. Well maybe just for yourselves but that is a start.
Clint| 5.1.12 @ 12:51PM
You are the girl. Screw Bibi. We have you and of course your pal Tool Job, the blow job sisters. Maybe she could be VP. You girls could sneak off on gefilta fishing trips while gefiltin' up each other. We could call it Eat Out Gorge.Why should we settle for that sand monkey when we have young twats like you. I can even look past this thing you have for some guy named Barney There is really nothing wrong with those feelings you have. I really like the way you and Tool Job can take liberal ideas and turn them into bumper sticker ideas for your average Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk Cupcake. Well maybe just for yourselves but that is a start.
W| 5.1.12 @ 1:12PM
Who is the sand monkey?
Clint| 5.1.12 @ 1:20PM
What's W Building In There ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMqxNPsfN50
Mickey| 5.1.12 @ 4:19PM
Clinty
Yeah, your'e not anti-semite. Obsessed with Jews, Bibi, and Israel. You be different if you a job and a life. Sick little wimp.
Clint| 5.1.12 @ 5:47PM
That's A Lie.
You're An Israel Firster Smear Bund Goebbels Propaganda BibiBot Serial Liar, Little Micky.
Call Bibi.
Mickey| 5.1.12 @ 6:26PM
Clinty
Yeah, your'e not anti-semite. Obsessed with Jews, Bibi, and Israel. You be different if you a job and a life. Sick little wimp.
Bibi Said You Should Get a Job And A Life. HaHa.
Clint| 5.1.12 @ 6:31PM
Uh Oh !
The Fixated Israel Firster Smear Bund Goebbels Propaganda BibiBot Serial Liar, Little Micky Sugar Pockets Attempts To Play His Dog Eared Anti-Semite Card On Tea Party Clint Again.
Bibi Says To Tell Ya To Eat His Bone Again.
Arch| 5.1.12 @ 5:55PM
The situation room photo tells the tale.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/w.....hotostream
Obama is cringing in the corner. He does not have, as Biden contends, a spine like a ramrod. He gave the green light to attack Abbottabad, but he delegated operational control to Admiral William McRaven, Commander of JSOC. Panetta wrote a CYA memo that was designed to distance Obama from the operation in case it failed. The admiral would have taken the fall.
McRaven was in direct contact with SEAL Team 6. Obama was on the back nine at Andrews AFB (which may also been a way to distance Obama from responsibility).
If, as president, you were aware the military was conducting the most important operation of your a administration, would you be on the golf course? No.
You would be in your best suit and tie, sitting in the Oval Office with two short speeches on your desk. If the mission was successful, you would thank the brave men who risked their lives and congratulate them on their success. If they failed, you would explain why, apologize, praise their courage and lament their loss. Most importantly, you would accept full responsibility.
Leadership is giving your subordinates everything they need to succeed - resources, information, persuasion, encouragement, reward, credit, anything. Their failure is your responsibility.
Obama will not win because of his record and his total lack of leadership.
Alan Brooks| 5.1.12 @ 12:39PM
The Afghanistan war is finished for us; it's similar to the scene in 'Jaws' where Chief Brody says to the Mayor:
"Larry, the summer is over, you're the Mayor of Shark City!"
After going on 11 years in Afghanistan, America is the Mayor of Shark City.
benny havens| 5.1.12 @ 7:27AM
The CIA was searching for bin Laden for a long time. They finally found him an eliminated him. Oh, and another thing, Obama happened to be the President at the time.
Ret. Marine| 5.1.12 @ 7:39AM
"the war on terror is over", from the mouth of a supposed man, a child, who on a daily bass, opens his mouth to tell lies, one after the other, yeah right. Did I mention obama's bin ly'n is a liar, not just your ordinary type of liar, but, in my humble opinion, a pathalogical liar to boot, and we are supposed to believe what part of it? sure.
The supposed war on terror was never a war to begin with, it was merly a tactic, not the purpose. If the muslim societies claim to be at war with the the western world, how is it, our very own gubmint, refuses and in this case openly lies about the entire affair. I would guess only the ignorant and not paying attention to the details part of our society, and the western world in general, are buying this product. I'm not. It must be nice to openly lie to others, believe in the lie and then promote it at a National level and believe somehow it is going to stick to suit their purpose/agenda, moochers vrs. productive. I make no mistake in believing any liar, least the so called pResident of these United States. In some ways, I am believing the tactic of terrorism is over in their minds, only to have been replaced with the tactic of dividing and conquering the American people, as a whole into one of two divisions, looters and builders, to better understand how to keep this division openly and, I might add much to the deterement of speaking as the Nation as a whole, of this disaster called obama's bin ly'n.
I find none of what this posuer or his fellow travelers amusing in the least, to have a pathological liar standing up in front of the entire world and the citizens, not subject of this admin., demeaning, seperating, openly critizing and demanding all of us to pick a side and then to openly discredit the truth from all of his lies, act in such a way as to further this division, repulsive to say the least.
Lets just take this a step further, may I suggest, the next time a person, or persons is killed, maimed, or otherwise left with the pain inflicted in response to the lies of this supposed pResident, a class action law-suit be filed in a federl court to hold, this liar-n-thief, his goons, henchmen/ladies, CONgress and the Senate, Dept. of injustice, in this case "just us, as in my people" held criminally responsible for the outcome. Yeah sure lets just wait for the next terror strike, or election fraud to occure before We the Patriots do anything to upset the moochers and robber class as if this is going to end well for anyone. I suspect there is one hellofah storm headed in the direction of the corrupt, liars, and the fools. I am not entirly sure they don't deserve it. I know which of these two sides I am on, and it isn't the one involving the lairs and looters. Semper Fi. to all infidels and Patriots alike. "payback is best served cold".
Indy| 5.1.12 @ 7:48AM
The Ft. Hood shooting was treated by the DOJ as a workplace shooting, not an act of terrorism...Eric Holder must go.
TLP| 5.1.12 @ 9:07AM
I disagree. The Muslim Brotherhood - The Murderers of Anwar Sadat, we're just over to the White House for Tea, and $1.5 Billion, for their upcoming War with Israel. (Have you been out of town?)
I write about him being the object of Great Concern, spoken of in Revelation 13-5 all the time.
"And I saw the BEAST rise from the Sea. And he was given a MOUTH, to speak Haughty and Blasphemous words. And he was allowed to exercise Authority for forty two months."
And, for this, I'm called Crazy.
I remember when he first came in to Power. The Arabs LAUGHED at him. They MOCKED his pretty speeches.
They don't do that, anymore.
They FOLLOW HIM, now. HE is their Leader. It was HE who gave them Mubarak. It was HIS Jets that gave them Libya, on a Silver Platter. HE is the reason that the Arab League has not Armed the people of Syria.
HE went in to Libya on the pretense that Khaddafi had killed 150 of his own people. ASSAD has Murdered Thousands, yet HE refuses to do anything.
Iran will have their Bomb before you know it, yet HE does nothing, but 'Speak haughty and blasphemous words'. HE reveals to them, the SECRET PLANS of a Launching or Refueling Point for Israel's Bombers in the Country just North of Iran.
Hamas believes the HE is their "Deliverer". That HE was sent by their God of Murder to Destroy the Jews, and return Jerusalem to the Muslims. They have even given HIM the name: ABU HUSSAIN.
Son of the Father.
He got Bin Laden, but not because he sought Vengence for the Murder of 3,000 Americans. He did it for HIMSELF. With him gone, HE is the King of Islam.
HE is the Deliverer.
The Alpha.
The Omega.
THE MESSIAH.
You, and everybody else, had best pull your heads out, cause the "War on Terror" IS over. Whether you wanna acknowledge it, or not.
The Muslim just VETOED a measure, Crafted by the Arab League, that would have called for the Arming of the Syrian Rebels.
Let me reiterate what I just wrote: The "Son of the Father" - Barack Hussein Obama/Barry Soetoro/Abu Hussain, just VETOED a measure Crafted by The Arab League.
And they OBEYED.
How many TEA LEAVES do you need?
How many things, short of actually Bombing Tel Aviv, does he have to do, before you people get it?
TLP| 5.1.12 @ 9:15AM
I'm not disagreeing with you, Indy. I'm disagreeing with Goldstein. I didn't intend my comment to be as a Reply to yours. I totally agree with what you said.
Eric "My People" has to go.
And if we had any MEN on our side?
He'd already have been Impeached.
Indy| 5.1.12 @ 10:02AM
OK, you had me worried...there are few men in DC, certainly not in leadership. The media is complicit and most of America sleeps. Farrahkan is openly speaking of violence and nothing happens? The sites we visit, the purchases we make, the comments we post are all tracked and nothing happens to those openly speaking of violence? Nobody on the Left is calling out Farrahkan for his comments, silence speaks volumes. Did you get that Holder? What about you Janet? NSA, FBI, I wonder how good employees (I have to believe there are many good people who cannot say what they think) sleep at night.
November 2012 vote them out.
Occam's Tool| 5.1.12 @ 11:19PM
I had a job offer to work at Darnell Medical Center in the Department of Psychiatry. Hassan would have been my colleague, G-d save the mark.
I thank G-d every day for my boss who offered me this job that I have, and know I am lucky to be alive.
No, the war on Sharia isn't over. screw callling it the war on terror. Sharia Delenda Est.
Purp| 5.1.12 @ 9:27AM
We will be in Afghanistan until 2024 - does that make you all warm and cozy? This President is not stupid like Bush - he makes wise decisions after careful thought. I know it bugs you, but too bad, so sad. He learned lessons from Papa Bush - too bad Baby Bush was so d* dumb. He couldn't even find a 6'5" Arab for cripes sake, let alone kill him.
If we got off of oil and stopped funding the terror networks by way of Arab oil and OPEC, the terror networks would just shrivel and die now. Like all other terror campaigns do.
Calvin| 5.1.12 @ 9:45AM
Obama found him through Bush's harsh interrogations. Your bragging about the fruits of torture. I always knew you would come around. The big O just had to explain it to you.
"If we got off of oil ..."
This is rich from a left wing nut. You first. You can wire yourself in to the toxic waste that is all that is left of Solyndra. It is amazing how the big O pays off his friends and money bundlers and you think that energy is being harvested. You can't fix stupid and that is all the big O is left with.
Purp| 5.1.12 @ 9:50AM
You're right about one thing - you can't fix YOU.
Instead of grousing about who should get the credit for OBL's death, remember who you give credit to for dismantling the Soviet Union and ending the Cold War. If Reagan did that by himself and his policies, then Obama killed Bin Laden by himself and his policies. Baby Bush and Darth Cheney just weren't up to the task - face it and be proud America won against OBL.
Dick Nome | 5.1.12 @ 11:07AM
What would you know about American Pride?? It is foreign to your ilk.
Purp| 5.1.12 @ 11:31AM
Typical right-wing blather - as if you OWN patriotism and love of country. If you're all for yourself and individualism, how do you have room for your country?
Dick Nome | 5.1.12 @ 11:44AM
Easy, lots of room for God and Country. I didn't say I owned it, you did. I simply said you don't know what it is, which is true. Where are you demonsrtating today, it's May Day, your Socialist religous day.
Von Mises Jr| 5.1.12 @ 3:55PM
You failed to ANSWER my question again!
Riddle me this, Perpy:
If the liberals believe that nature is a fragile and intricate system that cannot be disturbed, how can they reject free markets and believe that man must be controlled?
Is man not part of nature, or do you have a bipolar worldview???
Al Adab| 5.1.12 @ 5:17PM
Jr:
Remember, to The Left it is all about results. The ends justify the means, which is what they mean when they say, "It's the right thing to do" as if they alone had a monoply on wisdom.
W| 5.1.12 @ 1:16PM
Purp
You mean Obama was in the Middle East looking for a 6'5" Araba? Isn't that illegal profiling?
Thanks for the info, I thought Obama was playing golf every day or vacationing in Spain, Hawaii, Manhattan, Martha's Vineyard, etc.
Purp| 5.1.12 @ 5:25PM
Get with the program, he's way more productive than GW Bush ever was ... and is light years ahead of Richie Romney in understanding America. President Obama is the true patriot in the presidential race - cripes, Richie can't even show us his tax returns. What's he hiding?
Mike Hawk| 5.1.12 @ 9:24PM
Obama hates this country. So do you all the other leftist cranks.
Bill| 5.1.12 @ 9:54AM
Fighting terrorism:
1. No more chain migration from Mulim countries such as Egypt, Syria, Iran, Palestine, pakistan
2. No Green Card or citizenship for Muslims, who came to America legally
3. Deport all illegal Muslims
4. No Muslims will be allowed to enroll in a public university such as UMD, UF, UT, UVA
5. No trade with the listed Muslim countries
6. Fingerprint all Muslims
James Pawlak | 5.1.12 @ 11:28AM
At last a realist!
Bill| 5.1.12 @ 12:09PM
Hi James Pawlak, I thank you for your comments. America has had enough with those uneducated and unskilled Latinos, stealing our jobs and abusing our welfare system.
Nathan| 5.1.12 @ 1:06PM
No muslim to be allowed to enroll in a public university. American citizen muslims too? You know right that Americans actually everyone in this country enjoys the presumption of innocence? You know that right?
Let me explain the unalienable rights doctine to all of you. We are endowed by who, people? No, the congress? The King? No. You sir? No. OUR CREATOR with certain unalienable rights. Now as we commonly understand this, rights given by a supreme being cannot be taken away by mere mortals, yourself included. Or anyone else on this site.
They can be forfeited. But that's where the Bill of Rights comes in. Madison believe strongly in limited government and he and the other Founders talked about war as a means for taking away individual liberties. Which you appear to be doing.
If a person has not been charged with, much less convicted of no crime, we assume in this country he is entitled to all rights/priviledges that you and everyone else enjoys sir. You cannot deprive them of their rights based on group identity. Why didn't you just suggest reopening the detention camps we used for the Japanese during WWII? And I find number 4 so fascinating. In Gernmany 70 years ago, Jews were barred from public schools, Jewish children could not attend public elementary schools. Seeing someone suggest something so similar is so chilling to me.
Auschwitz wasn't built overnight. Small things happened. Things like this. Bar those horrible wicked Jews who represent a mortal threat to Germany and all of civilization from schools, then from the professions then from . . . and no one said anything . . . .
You tread dangerous ground here sir. As does anyone who agrees with you.
The jihadists are a small minority. SMALL MINORITY. We cannot deprive the others of their rights because of the actions of a small number of people. We do, they win. Again Tom Paine said and he's right to secure our rights we must defend the rights of those we hate. Tell us why he's wrong and you're right.
Bill| 5.1.12 @ 3:00PM
America is a nation of Judai-Christanity. Period.
Occam's Tool| 5.1.12 @ 11:20PM
They may be a small number, just as any combat soldiers are a small number of a population. But they have the SUPPORT of a huge majority. Only 3 dozen Muslims showed up to side with Dr. Jasser against terror.
Occam's Tool| 5.1.12 @ 11:22PM
Again, I only care about those who want to inflict Sharia upon me and support violence to do so. How a man worships G-d, or a flying bagel, is not my concern otherwise.
But Sharia is aggressive and evil.
nathan| 5.2.12 @ 9:16AM
When the Irish Republican Army was conducting terror attacks in Northern Ireland, did we say they represented all Irish? What religion did they represent? Catholic. And did we act in the same manner towards Catholics as we do here? And remember the IRA were vicious people, horrible people, in their day as bad as these guys are. And if you remember your history at one time we were told that Catholicism was an agressive religion hell bent on ruling the world and imposing by force if necessary their brand of religion on every one else. Much of what we see here was often written about Catholics. During the 19060 election we saw concerns about who in fact would Kennedy serve, the Constitution or Rome.
And yet then as now, individuals have rights. We do not do, and the Constitution does not allow us to assign group responsibility. We are each and separately responsiblity for our own actions and we each and separately have rights that cannot be taken from us without an alienating action directly on our part. There is no provision in the Constitution or any document the Founders wrote that allows group responsibility. Dr King made this clear did he not, content of character not color of skin for each and every one of us.
And it's difficult sometimes. But that supposedly sets us apart from others. Let others do group responsibility. We are Americans and at this stage in our lives, we have to be better than that. Countries are more than the people in them, the land in them. For us it's the principles on which this place was built. And I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm always going to stand with the Founders. It's usually a pretty safe place to be. The rest of you, choose this day what you will do but understand, rights that are surrendered to the government in the name of health care, defending the country, name your favorite good intention, are rights you don't see again. The Fifth Amendment destroying language in the NDAA? You think that's going to be repealed when Romney takes office? Not a chance and you see that's really a higher priority than repealing the ACA. It really is, that's a bigger threat than the ACA.
Peter R. Terminello| 5.1.12 @ 9:55AM
The war on terror will never be over because the fanatics of this world see it as a means to gain attention and punish those who disagree with them. Terrorism is an outgrowth of facism and does not come from those who believe in freedom and equality.
Today's mindless terrorists are intolerant religious zealots, the overwhelming majority of which are Muslims and if we are going to try to gain control of terrorism, we must be able to admit this fact.
Muslim terrorists do not believe in equality and freedom, quite the opposite. They want to keep woman as no better than servants; they do not want free discussion, only submission to the will of Allah, a will they seem to make up to justify their crimes against humanity.
No one has a right to force their religious beliefs on anyone else, but that is part of the Muslim Jihad. They want all the infidels to submit to their beliefs and if they don't then Muslims are charged to kill them.
I have read the Koran and could never follow it. I did not like it or its message, but that applies to me and no one is going to tell me that it is a good book.
When Muslims come to live in the United States they have to accept certain things not expect for America to conform to them and give them special treatment to accomodate their religion. Other religions adapted and they must or they should not live here. It must be the same for all.
Some countries have banned the hijab because it is offensive in the sense that no one knows what is being covered up. A terrorist could lurk under the garment. Let them wear them in the privacy of their own home, but in public that should be banned.
I see a creature covered completely except for the eyes and it causes me concern. The United States is secular. The complete covering up of the body is at the opposite end of someone going practically naked. They are both offensive, but at least the exposed person cannot conseal a bomb or other weapon under the hijab or whatever the article of clothing is.
Muslims like Catholics and others have a right to be here, but there are rules to follow in society and they are not the Sharia law.
Bob K.| 5.1.12 @ 9:58AM
Getting Safe Harbor in Afghanistan must be something like getting Safe Harbor in Hell!
Better them there than us!
Louis Jenkins| 5.1.12 @ 10:24AM
So we've had Muslims with us since the beginning? Or at least that's what Obama says.
Where were the Muslims when the Pilgrims landed? Where were the Muslims when when we fought the British? (Twice.) Where were the Muslims when the Civil War was fought? Where were the Muslims in WWs I and II? (Oh yeah, the Muslims aligned with Germany didn't they?) Where were the Muslims when woman sufferage and civil rights were brought to the forefront of American politics? Where were the Muslims when the trade towers were hit? (That's correct. They were flying the planes.) Yes, the US has had the Muslims with us since day one. Unfortunately, they've been on the opposing side.
As in all things, you Mr. Obama, have stretched the truth like a rubber band. The truth just ain't in you, and never will be.
John786| 5.1.12 @ 11:04AM
The war on terror has failed: akin to a bull in a china shop. It has damaged American interest. Dialogue & diplomacy with the Taliban has never been serious. It is to little to late. America needs to make real alliances and take a multifaceted approach to terrorism. The drone attacks must end. And no further military adventures such as attacking Iran. And America must pressurise Israel to negotiate in good faith on the 67 borders.
Al Adab| 5.1.12 @ 11:16AM
Oh the war on terror isn't over by any means. It is in fact about to move into our streets in the guise of Occupy forces who intend to create mass "demonstrations" and disrupt the functioning of business. This is another dress rehersal for action at the conventions this summer. Look for it.
James Pawlak | 5.1.12 @ 11:27AM
I is NOT a "war on terror". It is a continuation of the 1400-year war of Islam Vs. all others.
Nathan| 5.1.12 @ 12:48PM
The "war on terror" was misnamed from the start wasn't it? You don't make war on a method of fighting do you? You make war against what . . . .
People. And only people. Everyone should have been just a "little" concerned should we have not when it was phrased as a war against a methodoly and as opposed to a war against "terrorists"? And really words have meaning and the two are not remotely identical.
Pop quiz for the class. How many people did OBL have under his control the day of the attack? 5,000? No. 3,000? No. 1,000. That is all he had. Now consider this for a moment. He had 1,000 troops, soldiers, bad guys directly accountable to him. How, really how did that justify two wars, both of which we have lost or will lose, 2 trillion dollars expended, 100,000 minimum civilian deaths in Iraq, maybe 10 times that much, the Christian community there untouched during Saddam now destroyed. Notice if you will talked about the human rights abuses of that horrible regime only to be told that the current government routinely tortures people, the real stuff, cutting off fingers, all the things Saddam's people did, while we do nothing to stop them. Why did we go into Iraq and can the people there tell the difference? And who won really?
1,000 people. ONE THOUSAND PEOPLE. That doesn't justify one war much less two. Really be serious here. Honestly. ONE THOUSAND PEOPLE. He does one super beyond his wildest dreams spectacular operation, which is about all he was capable of, and the Bush people over reacted.
And pray tell he wasn't the first to use terror as a means to get what he wanted. What do you think the Irish Republican Army chaps were doing folks? What exactly were they doing? Voter registration drives? What religion were those folks? Don't recall seing any muslims in northern Ireland do you? Or the folks blowing things up in Germany? Don't recall seeing a lot of Muslims involved in those activities either.
And the Israelis? In 1948 the King David Hotel was one of the most celebrated terrorist acts of its day! And one of the Irgun members, Menachim Begin, ended up being Israeli Prime Minister later. In 2008 the Israelis laid a plaque at the site. To commemorate the victims right? Wrong. The two Irgun terrorists who died in the attack. Netanyahu was at the ceremony. The British were not amused. You all know that the Israelis funded Hamas early on right? Please, there's nothing new here folks?
And pop quiz again folks and this is directed at James Pawlak here above me. Give the religion of the early Palestinian (I know call them what you want, Arabs, people who cares) terrorists? Were they muslims? No. Some of the early, most celebrated terrorists were what, Christians. And why? Because the Israelis came in took land that had been in their family's possession for hundreds of years, and without charging them with anything just did Kelo VS New London on them and gave the land to settlers who had no legal/moral right to the land. And having, as Jefferson said, been reduced to a state of despotism, they decided to act. I don't approve of terrorism, but should they just sit there and do nothing? Palestinians win against the Israelis in court only for the government to say, too bad. So are they supposed to be nice "dhimmis" to the Israelis here, having broken no laws, charged with no crimes while Israel steals ancestral homes going back hundreds of years? All you good Jefferson loving conservatives tell us what YOU would do.
So come on. None of this was that simple. No James, when Christians Arabs are blowing things up, then there's more than just a "continuation of the 1400 years of Islam against everyone else."
Now, I know I'm engaging in an act of futility, but honestly I've been called all the names in the dictionary. Really. Doing it again is redundant? So for those of you who positively hate/disagree with what I've posted, how about skipping the name calling and just say I'm wrong here, wrong there, don't know what the devil I'm talking about. But calling me this that? I've heard it all before. It's getting old. And I'm right about the King David Hotel incident. Look it up. Pat Buchanan was right in 1999. When we're in places (like putting troops in Saudi Arabia) where we have no real need to be, sooner or later folks will come after us asymmetrically. Two years later. And please note, we did leave Saudi shortly after the attack. Pure coincidence? Maybe, just maybe a good strategy here is just leave folks alone? I mean the Shias and Sunnis hate each other as much or more than they hate us. After all the bombs are still going off in Iraq right? That's not directed at us right? Just pull back, buy the oil and let them have at each other. Most of the muslims in the world could care less about us. All the polls show that.
Occam's Tool| 5.1.12 @ 11:25PM
The Brits were given advance warning on the King David Hotel, which was a MILITARY HQ. They chose to ignore it.
This did not prevent Britain from working with Israel in 1956, when it was in their interest. nathan, you remind me of the character Nathan in the Ten Commandments.
A bad seed.
nathan| 5.2.12 @ 9:01AM
It's not at all clear that the British got the warning according to a whole lot of accounts that were written about the attack. And pray tell how many military personnel died in the attack? VERY few. How many civilians? Over 120? Disproportianate to say the least?
And if you're right and I'm wrong why did Jewish human rights activist Hanna Arendt condemn the attack at the time? Oh by the way, ever hear of someone called Albert Einstein? He condemned it too. I'm in good company here.
Oh please, the British were playing imperialists with the Egypt games. Which is why so much of the middle east is screwed up in the first place. Had they stayed out of Iraq after WWI, somewhere they had no legal, moral, ethical right to be in the first place, there wouldn't be so many problems there now. The Ottomans ruled it better.
I mean who were the first people in the region to use poison gas? Those horrible WMD's that freak us so much? The British. The sainted British. When Arab villages, resisting the imperialists which they had absolutely every right to do, the British threw poison gas at them in some instances killing every man, woman, and child in the village. You want to defend the British, be my guest. I would rather not. And keep in mind no less a person than Lawrence of Arabia (heard of him?) complained about Versaille and the actions of the British and the French in the Middle East to his dying day so I'm good company here. Whose company are you in sir and how much of this do you or any of the others actually know about? I'm guessing not many?
Mark30339| 5.1.12 @ 4:04PM
War is not to be endorsed lightly. The hawkish commenters above want to keep on writing checks that US soldiers and innocent bystanders have to cash with their blood. As retribution for 3,000 killed on 9/11, we've got 6,000 dead soldiers, 30,000 crippled soldiers and hundreds of thousand dead foreigners --- oh, and we're bankrupt too. Despite the mountains of body bags, Americans still think that Islamists are the great killers in the world. It's time for a conversion in the US from making war to attracting peace. Eleven war years are enough. We chose peace in 1945 despite the monumental threats from China/USSR. We can choose peace in 2012 despite the pockets of militant Islam. Let's work on dramatic reductions in imported oil -- that will impair the oil rich nations that fund Islamist terror, and it kills no one. Dump Obama, pump oil & gas, bring our boys (& gals) home.
albert constantine jr.| 5.1.12 @ 6:19PM
China was not a Communist nation in 1945, but we did ignore the threat, and it was by 1949.
We pretended it didn't matter then, and they were going to be content to only murder millions of their own people. Then came 1950, and we learned that while we might have chosen peace in 1945, war chose us again.
Some months later, around the Yalu River, lots of young Americans got to meet the non-threatening Chinese People's Army. Check out the amount of body bags full of Americans on that one.
(Hey POST, maybe the Korean War isn't as forgotten as you thought, but reading the above, maybe it is).
kate| 5.1.12 @ 4:57PM
I watched President Obama this afternoon in Afghanistan. My question for him is....what about the women? Sharia law is cool with him? What about the women? Ha. I am sick to my stomach. So much for liberal men.
kate| 5.1.12 @ 5:22PM
Well, ignored again. What do conservative men have to say about sharia law? Double dog dare ya.
Al Adab| 5.1.12 @ 6:48PM
Kate:
Since I know something of what you ask, let me put the answer to you this way. "Stand fast therefor in the liberty where Christ has made you free and be not entangled again in the yoke of bondage." Enough for Sharia and Islamic law.
Occam's Tool| 5.1.12 @ 11:25PM
Please see my comments on sharia and my daughter.
Sharia Delenda Est.
JmsA| 5.2.12 @ 3:38PM
We don't like it and don't condone it, Kate.
Clint| 5.1.12 @ 6:07PM
Obama Ate Double Dog Dare.
albert constantine jr.| 5.1.12 @ 6:21PM
You come up and hack too much, Clint, but every once in a while, you connect with one and drive it to the wall.
Al Adab| 5.1.12 @ 6:48PM
Clint, Albert:
Tastes like veal. Trust me in this.
Clint| 5.1.12 @ 8:01PM
On The Other Hand, Obama Says It Tastes Like " Mutton".
Occam's Tool| 5.1.12 @ 11:26PM
Umm, both are sheep, right?
kate| 5.1.12 @ 11:42PM
thought you were going to say: "tastes like mittens...! :)))
POST American| 5.1.12 @ 10:39PM
With American government, churches,
education, media, Hollywood and
'CULL-chore' totally infiltrated
----With Andrew Breitbart's coroner now
turning up DEAD of arsenic poisoning
-------With Pelosi calling for a full spectrum
police state from within Globalist empowered
RED China
----------With NDAA 1021 outstripping even the
North Korean control apparatus
--------------With DHS buying some 450 MILLION
rounds of hollow point ammo --in one month alone
---------------------------UH!------------------------------
YEAH, I think one and all can agree, the
'War on Terror' is indeed NOT over.
WHY, we even hear OJ's joined the search
for the REAL terrorists!
kurt2022| 5.2.12 @ 12:27AM
POST American, You make more sense of the real world we live in, than all the other commenters combined!! I don't know if that is a "good or bad" thing, if you get my drift!!! I enjoy and respect your comments!
kate| 5.2.12 @ 12:13AM
Hmm. All of your answers were pretty weak. I've figured it out. All of it. I lived in the middle east during the first gulf war and US tv was broadcast for the first time. Soon dishes were popping up. Women there were asking " Why can't I swim in the ocean and go out on holidays with my husband and children, rather than stay at home and cook?"
The war is about control of women.
It is that simple.
Figured it out by myself. Waiting for the brilliant ones to follow.
God, I'm smart.
The Bruce| 5.2.12 @ 1:29AM
US casualties from 2001-2012:
http://cnsnews.com/sites/defau.....ges/AFGHAN CHART-2.jpg?1335890456
Seems like killing Osama didn't exactly end the War on Terror. Who know?
The Bruce| 5.2.12 @ 1:42AM
Sorry, my original link was breaking. Hopefully this isn't. If it is, my bad...
https://host176.hostmonster.com:2083/frontend/hostmonster/filemanager/index.html?dirselect=webroot&domainselect=zeph-online.net&dir;=/home1/zephonli/public_html
The Bruce| 5.2.12 @ 1:44AM
Okay, I've officially gone stupid for the night. Good night.
The Bruce| 5.2.12 @ 1:47AM
http://zeph-online.net/files/AFGHAN CHART-2.jpg
The Bruce| 5.2.12 @ 1:49AM
http://zeph-online.net/files/AFGHAN-CHART-2.jpg
Damned UNIX.
The Bruce| 5.2.12 @ 1:51AM
I can do nothing right, tonight. Sorry again.
sirbourbon| 5.3.12 @ 10:04AM
Obama used the military for political brownie points and the propaganda machine the right calls the mainstream media and the liberal media, kicked up that story to such a high fever pitch that hardly any conservative national syndicated columnists and pudit dared question if in fact Bin Laden had been killed by the navy seals.
This whole team six bit was stretched to beyond belief and the amazing thing is that the biggest cheerleaders boosting Obama's reelection efforts was the same newsmen that prattle on about Obama's extreme leftist economic policies by accepting Obama's story and not questioning the most obviously glaring fact: where is the body of Osama Bin Laden!
The body of the old man Bin Laden was never shown to the world. The right wing pundits want us to just accept the word of a habitual liar and the habitual liars from the Council on Foreign Relations that set our foreign policy that dream these publicity stunts up!
When did Obama really die? Prior to the day the seals stormed into Pakistan as Indian Prime Minister Boutros Gali was purported to have told newsmen? Well, Gali was a socialist politician who claime dhe died of kidney failure but the liberals running the meida never followed up hoping for a more dramatic ending to the world's most conveniently created boogey man.
It's true that the Bin laden videos have fallen silent since the Obama team used Team Seal to carry out their stunt. Saddam Hussein was found in a hole in the ground and given a trial and then hanged. Dead men don't go to trials.
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