-
Immigration and the ‘Best and Brightest’
June 10, 2013 | 94 comments
-
Ken Cuccinelli Gets in the Game
June 3, 2013 | 11 comments
-
Memorial Day in Richmond
May 28, 2013 | 31 comments
-
Catholic Culture In America
May 23, 2013 | 35 comments
-
Earth Day 2013: The Papal Edition
April 22, 2013 | 22 comments
The Nation's Pulse
The Nature That We Make
Reflections in the wake of Earth Day 2012.
(Page 2 of 3)
Emma Marris also rejects the idea of a balance of nature as an equilibrium tending toward a steady state. She quotes Botkin, who stated: “If you ask an ecologist if nature never changes, he will almost always say no. But if you ask that same ecologist to design a policy, it is almost always a balance-of-nature policy” — preserve rare species, maintain this habitat structure, freeze in time this ecological moment, return this degraded land to a particular state regardless of weather or invasive species.
“Give up romantic notions of a stable Eden, be honest about goals and costs, keep land from mindless development and try just about everything,” argues Marris.
Like shooting more deer. Yes, even the national Park Service (NPS), which manages Washington, D.C.’s Rock Creek Park, is resorting to sniper fire by government sharpshooters equipped with night-vision goggles and silencers to control this universally acknowledged threat to healthy forests, vegetation, and biodiversity. NPS’s new deer management plan calls for killing 80 percent of the white-tailed deer, or more than 300 animals living in the area, over a three-year period. Bambi, you’ve been warned.
The 2,820 acre park has 80 deer per square mile. Its forest and trees will be decimated in a few years. Right now cars are the only predators out there, killing more than 40 deer each year. “The deer are grazing on all our new regrowth,” said Nick Bartolomeo, the park’s chief ranger. “The forest can’t regenerate.” The plan is to reduce the population to 15 or 20 animals per square mile.
Meat from the dead deer will be given to local food banks and homeless shelters.
This debate over nature and humans has flared up, ferociously, early this year in the Breakthrough Journal with top scientists from the Nature Conservancy criticizing other mainstream conservationists or preservationists for failing to account for the role of humans in ecosystems. Vigorous rebuttals have been lodged by several others, including the head of the Center for Biological Diversity.
“By its own measures, conservation is failing,” opine the TNC scientists. And there is this: “Conservation’s binaries — growth or nature, prosperity or biodiversity — have marginalized it in a world that will soon add at least two billion people.” These are fighting words in some quarters.
As in past years, the observance of Earth Day 2012 provides this writer with another chance to showcase examples of human beings improving or restoring the natural world and environment.
Recently, I offered TAS readers an update on the phenomenal growth of the private land trust movement, private philanthropy in service of protecting landscapes, watersheds, agriculture and aesthetics. In Michigan, a state that has suffered so much during the economic downturn, a coalition of land trusts, the Heart of the Lakes, protected nearly 40,000 acres just in 2010 for a grand total of 548,318 acres through voluntary conservation easements. This is typical of what is happening all around the country.
In my wife’s home state of Wisconsin, state fisheries managers, and a supportive public, have worked for decades on a project to protect and expand the range of a prehistoric animal that survived the dinosaurs but barely escaped man.
The bottom-dwelling lake sturgeon first appeared 100 million years ago, as the dinosaur exited stage left. “Whatever killed the dinosaurs didn’t kill the sturgeon,” says Ron Burch of the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.
A lake sturgeon looks, well, prehistoric with boney plates instead of scales, a flexible rod (“notochord”) instead of a backbone, a long snout and tubular mouth with no teeth. It uses its hanging barbels as feelers to detect snails, insects, leeches, crayfish and small clams which they consume. It is a massive animal and long-lived.
An 82-year-old sturgeon was caught in Lake Winnebago in 1953.
This month, on April 10, a sturgeon 7 feet, four inches in length, weighing 240 pounds was captured on the Wolf River-Winnebago System at the Shawano Paper Mill Dam in a spawning assessment operation to harvest her eggs. She would have been 30 pounds heavier before the eggs were taken. This was the largest lake sturgeon ever captured since 1950. The DNR estimates that she was born in 1887.
Lake sturgeon used to thrive throughout the Great Lakes and Mississippi River basin. Native Americans revered the great fish. Overharvesting, dams, and pollution eventually reduced the population to roughly 10 percent of what it was pre-settlement. I recall reading a description of these large animals being caught, killed, and stacked up to dry out so they could be used as fuel for the boilers of ships that once cruised the Great Lakes.
About the Author
G. Tracy Mehan, III served at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in the administrations of both Presidents Bush. He is a consultant in Arlington, Virginia, and an adjunct professor at George Mason University School of Law.
Letter to the Editor View all comments (71) | Leave a comment
More Articles by G. Tracy Mehan, III
More Articles From The Nation's Pulse
http://spectator.org/archives/2012/04/23/the-nature-that-we-make
Follow us:
ADVERTISEMENT
SPONSORED LINKS
FLASHBACK TO: 1995
-
Pope Culture
A man of faith in a godless age is hitting Americans where it hurts.
-
Why the GOP Does Not, Like, Totally Suck
Mr. and Mrs. American Spectator Reader, let P.J. O’Rourke talk sense to your kids.
-
Dames at Sea
-
In the Absence of Guns
In Britain, defending your property can get you life.
-
The Metaphysical Martini
-
Counting the Costs of Clintonism
The debacle of this president’s administration is both a cause and a symptom of the decline of American values. Unless Congress impeaches him, that decline will go on unchecked. An eminent jurist surveys the damage and assesses the chances for the recovery of our culture.
-
Chuck McHagel
It won’t take long for conservatives to scratch this presidential wannabe off their 2008 scorecard.
-
The Legacy of Old John and Mother Fresh-Roasted
-
It’s the Best Time of the Year
The American Christmas, like the songs that celebrate it, makes room for everybody under the rainbow. Is that why so many people seem to be hostile to it?
-
The Bush Crack-Up
Was the President done in by the economy, or by the politics of the economy?
Clip of the Day
ADVERTISEMENT
Appleby| 4.23.12 @ 8:00AM
I live next door to the biggest park in Toronto, much of it wilderness by design. Among its occupants are coyotes, which the fashionable people who live parkside apparently view as "nice doggies" until these "nice doggies" grab the actual "nice doggies" and gobble them down as tasty snacks. Nearby suburbs have had lockdowns of public schools when black bears have been spotted strolling the streets -- Greenies having stopped the annual bear cull as Cruel and Unusual, saying righteously, "They were here first!" This always makes me very glad that something killed off the dinosaurs before this lot were born.
KyMouse| 4.23.12 @ 11:33AM
I saw a coyote for the very first time in my part of this city on Friday night, at about 10:30. It was bookin' it up the shoulder of a major road, and leaped into the shrubs when my car was about 20 feet away from it.
If I had a small dog, I'd keep it inside a real fence, not one of those "invisible" ones.
When I told a friend about that coyote, he launched into one of those "we're encroaching on their land" talks. I explained to him that the area in which I saw him has been built up for about a century now, and that coyotes -- and deer -- go where the livin' is easy. They are attracted to suburban (and increasingly, urban) neighborhoods in which people put out food for birds, cats, dogs and other critters.
And as you pointed out, Appleby, coyotes will get the critters if the corn and cat food aren't available.
KyMouse| 4.23.12 @ 11:45AM
I've just read that Kentucky now has coyotes in all 120 counties, and that they are omnivores which will eat anything from grass to grasshoppers to garden vegetables.
According to Laura Patton, Furbearer Biologist for the Ky. Dept. of Fish and Wildlife, coyotes "will kill and eat domestic cats, but attacks on small dogs are often related to territorial issues more than feeding."
Don't you love her title -- "Furbearer" Biologist. I wonder if that refers to her or to the animals she studies.
JP| 4.23.12 @ 11:50AM
The farmers where I live kill the coyotes whenever they get the chance. If you have chickens, coyotes will surely find them.
Stammon| 4.23.12 @ 4:36PM
Out little loud beagle died suddenly a few years ago, and within the month we lost all our chickens and half our barn cats to possums, coons, a coyotes. Our two golden retrievers wouldn't even defend their dog bowl. We got a little beagle/german shepard mix from the pound and now we can keep chickens again. I love living on our farm, but coyotes are hunters and breed like rabbits, shoot them if you see them.
Lee Ghume| 4.23.12 @ 4:56PM
What is next after coyotes move north? Armadillos?How about that tasty Kudzu? Damned Stink Bugs.
c. j. acworth| 4.23.12 @ 9:24AM
I learned a lot about how the Indians (sorry, Native Americans) lived in harmony with nature when I read "1491, Discovering the New World before Columbus" by Charles Mann. In it Mann shows how the Indians in both north and south Americas Lived in balance with nature, but had their thumbs on the scale. They built the Amazon rain forest. They created the Great Plains. They managed every ecosystem they moved into, and things didn't begin to revert back to "natural" untill they were decimated by the introduction of European diseases. Both 1491 and his sequal 1493 are well worth the time to read.
KyMouse| 4.23.12 @ 11:36AM
Yes, that "harmony" stereotype may have been overrated. I've read that Plains tribes often killed far more buffalo than they needed, sometimes the entire herd, because they believed that any survivors would tell other buffalo that Indians were hunting in the area.
ebonystone| 4.24.12 @ 12:48PM
In various places in the West, one can visit an Indian "buffalo jump", a place where the Indians used to stampede a herd of buffalo over a cliff. So many were killed that their bodies formed a ramp down which the rest of the herd ran. Hundreds of animals were killed at one time, far more than the Indians were capable of skinning and butchering before most of them rotted. Hadn't heard the bit about the buffalo spreading the word to other buffalo.
Stammon| 4.23.12 @ 4:39PM
Go to the La Brea Tar Pits. They have a display that shows how every animal above 150 kilograms disappeared right around 12,000 years ago. It wasn't the white man that did it.
ebonystone| 4.24.12 @ 1:00PM
The pre-Columbian Indians also managed the lands of the Old Northwest. They practiced slash-and-burn agriculture: an area of land near the village would be clear-cut, and the debris burned. This made a very fertile field for agriculture for a few years. Then a new area would be cut and burned, and the earlier area left to re-grow. The cleared areas also attracted lots of wildlife, providing good hunting for the tribe. With crash of the Indian population following the introduction of Old World diseases, this system was largely abandoned, and the forest took over, to the point that early settlers 300 years later said that a squirrel could travel from Pittsburg to the Mississippi without ever setting foot on the ground. The mature forest was also not very productive of wildlife.
albert constantine jr.| 4.23.12 @ 9:47AM
I believe we should be good and responsible stewards of the earth around us. Still, as we try to manage nature, it never relinquishes its power to manage us. It not only provides, but it can destroy, as well.
Not only do we suffer the results of poor or ignorant decisions in our stewardship, but when one considers some of the disasters our planet can throw our way (earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, volcanic eruption, etc.) can make location by itself fraught with peril.
Al Adab| 4.23.12 @ 1:25PM
Albert:
As you note, Conservatives have long been conservationists. What seperates Conservatives from statists is one the worship of Gaia or Earth or Environment and two the preferred "solution" to every identified "problem" which for the Statist is less liberty and more government central control.
Louis Jenkins| 4.23.12 @ 9:59AM
April 22nd, Earth Day. Every day is Earth Day, likewise, every day is the day to exercise our right to get out and hunt, trap, or fish for some wild game, as long as it is allowable by law. There's more deer and feral hogs now than ever, and coyote are abundant. Yes Earth Day can be fun, as long as you have the proper gear, good technique, and a good attitude.
JT| 4.23.12 @ 10:05AM
I always celebrate earth day warming up the barrel on my .303 Enfield several times a year.
Stammon| 4.23.12 @ 4:42PM
Here in Indiana it's a mossberg 20 gauge with a rifled barrel and a 3/1 scope. Sigh, we can't hunt with rifles. I won't hunt turkey because we have to use a shotgun, the Indianapolis dummys won't let me use a 22 Hornet.
JimP| 4.23.12 @ 11:06AM
Aren't discussions such as this moot since we are going to run out of food, oil, breathable air, drinkable water, and the destruction of the human race due to overpopulation? Oh, wait..... those were all predicted to happen by 1975. We live in the POST apocalyptic world now. Odd, it sure looks like the proto-apocalyptic place where I lived before 1975. Could the "experts" be wrong?
Historian| 4.23.12 @ 11:22AM
If I'm not mistaken, the Burmese python should be able to manage the ferral hog. Otherwise my tree hugging friends are into abortion (the Japanese used to call it "thinning"). One even spoke favorably of Hitler and the Holocaust as a way of saving "the balance of Nature."
Conservative Not Republican| 4.23.12 @ 11:24AM
M r Mehan, you write: "Whatever our limitations, human beings are the only game in town when it comes to saving nature." ????? saving Nature from whom or what? From human beings! How did you get in the door of the EPA????
Conservative Not Republican| 4.23.12 @ 11:28AM
You write: "Nature in the twenty-first century will be a nature that we make." So humans are now making Nature? Great. Make me another Bryce Canyon and Niagra Falls. Better not let God hear about this. He will think it rather Hubristic of us and smite us.
albert constantine jr.| 4.23.12 @ 12:11PM
God uses nature to smite us fairly regularly, whether we display hubris or not.
If behaving arrogantly was the precursor for one of God's lightning strikes, I would think you should be nervous any time a dark cloud appears in the sky.
Conservative Not Republican| 4.23.12 @ 1:14PM
Was that supposed to put me in my place? YAWWWWWN!
albert constantine jr.| 4.23.12 @ 3:00PM
I don't have a place to put you in, but your latest post reinforces my point.
O.F. A.N. A.S.S.| 4.25.12 @ 8:55AM
Baa. Even sheep know a simple courtesy flush ought to accomplish that task, no problem.
Ovines For
A Nation
Absent Species Sodomization
Michael Nardolilli | 4.23.12 @ 12:17PM
Mr. Mehan's thoughtful piece shows us that we are at last starting to ask the right questions. Moreover, unlike the first Earth Day 42 years ago, we now have the data to help us find the answers.
SpiralArchitect| 4.23.12 @ 1:07PM
Earth Day - this day was created on 042270 to honor Lenin ( yes the murderous communist) by Ira Eichman on Lenin's 1ooth b-day.
Mike Hawk| 4.23.12 @ 1:15PM
That's Ira Einhorn, the convicted murderer and former fugitive from justice rotting in Graterford Prison for life. I wonder how he celebrated Erfday yesterday.
Conservative Not Republican| 4.23.12 @ 1:16PM
You are an idiot and a liar. I and all normal people happen to like the Earth and hate idiots like you who pollute it and destroy it for future generations because you care only about yourself and the hear and now.
Al Adab| 4.23.12 @ 1:30PM
I do not know about Eichman or Einhorn, but I do know that while Conservatives are conservationists, they do not worship the Environment to the detriment of either Liberty or Humankind. Purposfully lowering peoples opportunities and keeping them in poverty around the world to satisfy statist fears is a crime against humanity. DDT and malaria only one case in point.
Conservative Not Republican| 4.23.12 @ 3:19PM
Who said anything about worship? That's a strawman. When I go fishing in the Gulf or hunting in Montana I do not worship, I enjoy. God are you a knucklehead. I would call destroying the environment a detriment to Mankind and humanity. You wouldn't cause you are a free market absolutist and destroyer of nature.
Al Adab| 4.23.12 @ 4:19PM
Don't go off so half-cocked. No one anywhere proposes destroying the environment. So get over it. That is a chimera or to you, a strawman. Extreme environmentalism is detrimental to liberty and humanity. However, since you are unable to respond civily to a conversation, have a great day and goodbye.
Mac Jehoff| 4.23.12 @ 5:00PM
Sometimes you have to destroy a little environment in order to save it.
Conservative Not Republican| 4.23.12 @ 5:38PM
“Nothing is more conservative than conservation.”
-- Russel Kirk. Founder of Modern Conservatism. But you Free Market Absolutists know soooooooooooo much better.
Todd S| 4.23.12 @ 5:50PM
Environmentalist Not Conservative,
You are a watermelon
Al Adab| 4.23.12 @ 6:44PM
Todd:
Is that green on the outside and red on the inside?
Conservative Not Republican| 4.23.12 @ 1:18PM
THE FACTS: The genesis of Earth Day is credited to US Sen. Gaylord Nelson, then a U.S. Senator from Wisconsin and Army veteran. After witnessing the ravages of the 1969 massive oil spill in Santa Barbara, California, and inspired by the student anti-war movement, he called for an environmental teach-in, or Earth Day, to be held on April 22, 1970.
shipley130| 4.23.12 @ 2:28PM
FYI,
I was watching a program about Earth Day a few days ago and the reporter ended the segment with the mantra that the best we can do for Earth is to have less children. Vladimir Lenin thought it was his place to displace or kill people for the environment. That is evil, and Earth Day is evil.
Conservative Not Republican| 4.23.12 @ 3:21PM
He probably said fewer children, not less, unless he was as dumb as you are. You are a liar and an idiot. Lenin, like Hitler, wanted the Soviet people to breed, and Lenin was about industrializing the Soviet Union at all costs and polluted it terribly. You are a stupid liar and a Moron.
Butch| 4.23.12 @ 4:19PM
Check out who, a few posts upstream, made a reference to the "hear" and now.
Conservative Not Republican| 4.23.12 @ 5:39PM
Shut up. “Nothing is more conservative than conservation.” -- Russel Kirk. Founder of Modern Conservatism, but not as Smart as Butch, the genius libertarian and Free market Absolutist.
Skippy| 4.24.12 @ 7:42PM
The breeding rate in Russia guarantees the disappearance of that nation in 2 more generations.
The same goes for American liberals.
Lenin will get what he wanted, in a way.
Demography is destiny.
ebonystone| 4.24.12 @ 1:21PM
"...the mantra that the best we can do for Earth is to have less children."
A mantra that has been observed almost exclusively in the West. Most Western countries have grown only slightly in the last 50 years, and most of the growth has been due to immigration. Meanwhile the Third World's population has exploded, with many countries tripling, even quadrupling, their population in that time. If those countries had held growth to the level of France, there would be much less of a population problem. (And much less of an environmental problem.) Mexico would have half its present numbers, the Philippines about 40%, and Congo(Kinshasa) about 1/3, to give just a few examples,
Bob S| 4.23.12 @ 1:42PM
I would've thought CnR would have chimed in by now. His definition of a conservative is one who conserves resources/nature/Democrats in office.
Bob S| 4.23.12 @ 1:43PM
Oh, should have looked more closely, his hilarity is plastered all over the comments in this one.
Conservative Not Republican| 4.23.12 @ 3:34PM
Conservative Philosopher Roger Scruton:
'People must be empowered to take charge of their environment, to care for it as a home, and to affirm themselves through the kind of local associations that have been the traditional goal of conservative politics. Our common future is by no means assured, but there is a path that we can take which could ensure the future safety of our planet and our species.'
shipley130| 4.23.12 @ 2:25PM
When mankind makes mistakes regarding nature, mankind pays the price. Until we can align our laws to really punish those that go out of their way to destroy nature due to their greed, we won't really fix things. I'm no greenie weenie, but appreciate a little common sense.
Herb| 4.23.12 @ 8:03PM
"Until we can align our laws to really punish those that go out of their way to destroy nature due to their greed, we won't really fix things. "
Then you can start by going after the Russians/Soviets and their fellow communists the Chinese. The entire former USSR is an ecological nightmare of which I can speak from my experience in Uzbekistan where the ground stank from dumped MiG jet fuel, and seeing the now defunct Aral Sea, a salt & chemical laden desert that was once the world's fourth largest inland sea with a huge fishing fleet.
Not all of the "nature destroyers" are greedy capitalists. Again, China, anyone? But most environmentalists would prefer to think that Gordon Gekko is more to blame than V.I. Lenin.
BTW, odd coincidence that Earth Day is Lenin's birthday? Surely Gaylord Nelson would have thought of that.
Russell| 4.23.12 @ 2:32PM
I am obliged to Tracy for bringing the sturgeon's biofuel potential to entrepreneurial attention.
The last Acipenser oxyrinchus I saw offered (at Captain Poole's Menemsha fishmongery) inspired only salivation, for it is savory as shad
But thanks to Tracy I realize now realize the thing to do is to extract the roe and cure the remainder to feed the gasifier of a modified Learjet , bringing to general aviation the twin benefits of carbon neutrality and caviar satiation.
Those arriving at the next Rio conference on the wings of this new biofuel salient will be assured of a place at Charley Rose's table.
Joseph Konwinski| 4.23.12 @ 2:56PM
To paraphrase C S Lewis, "...nature is not our mother. She is our sister since we both come from the same Father, so, while we can admire nature for her beauty, we must never be like her."
Conservative Not Republican| 4.23.12 @ 3:24PM
OUT OF CONTEXT. He said that because Nature is indifferent, amoral, not a person, and sometimes red in tooth and claw. If you cannot understand what you read, don't repeat it. Jesus!
Calvin| 4.23.12 @ 4:35PM
Why are the American Spectator's trolls so below average. Social fascists pretending to be conservative is a hard sell.
Stammon| 4.23.12 @ 4:48PM
I think he's hilarious.
LiveFreeOrDie| 4.23.12 @ 5:33PM
He hasn't given up, changed his name and started over, yet. He may actually thinks he's fooling someone, poor little guy.
Conservative Not Republican| 4.23.12 @ 5:40PM
Idiots! “Nothing is more conservative than conservation.”
-- Russel Kirk. Founder of Modern Conservatism, but not as Smart as Calvin, the genius libertarian and Free market Absolutist.
O.F. A.N. A.S.S.| 4.23.12 @ 6:23PM
1%er, in Mensa, our backsides . . . and not in the way you imagine, you sodomizing depravity.
Even sheep know that wind and water are going to level Bryce Canyon, and that Niagara Falls is eating away the shelf it falls over at an alarming rate, and when it eats its way to Lake Erie - probably less than 20 miles away - it is goodbye falls.
We sheep nominate you to be the one to tell the Creator He screwed up - all canyons and falls aren't going to last, and while you're setting the record straight with Him you might as well tell him neither are all mountains and all oceans, or even the sun for that matter.
We sheep recommend you start sounding the alarm about the Anthropogenic Global Shifting that will kill us all long before Anthropogenic Global Warming, genius.
Ovines For
A Nation
Absent Species Sodomization
KyMouse| 4.24.12 @ 4:33PM
I got into Mensa during the early 1980s, and it certainly comes in handy on job applications. However, I stopped paying dues and attending meetings when I tired of my local chapter's habit of bringing in speakers (for our meetings) who promoted causes or ideas that I oppose. They found speakers promoting astrology, euthanasia, and all sorts of crap. Besides, just about everyone in that chapter was an atheist or a Unitarian Universalist. Not much of a welcome mat for a Christian.
Speaking of Niagara Falls -- I seem to recall that it is the only national landmark that is always moving backwards.
O.F. A.N. A.S.S.| 4.25.12 @ 4:34PM
We sheep agree with you.
Fortunately our Creator made we sheep metamensans so we rarely find it necessary to stoop and mingle with our lessers.
We sheep also note when the Niagara inevitably reaches Erie, all the Great Lakes will be horribly disfigured, with the possible exception of Superior. Don't tell 'Sodomizer Not Conservative', that depravity has enough issues as it is.
Ovines For
A Nation
Absent Species Sodomization
SetOurChildrenFree | 4.23.12 @ 3:19PM
Nobody is arguing that we can't help nature along a little for the greater good. What we object to is the environmental tyranny of the EPA and other agencies engage in. These conservation efforts should be done by private organizations, and that way we'll be assured that they reflect the will of the people, yet won't have the police power of government behind them.
Scott| 4.23.12 @ 4:07PM
I grew up in Wisconsin when Nelson was a senator. He was a first grade jerk. And a true radical.
Conservative Not Republican| 4.23.12 @ 5:41PM
And you are not a radical? Get a clue.
Scott| 4.23.12 @ 7:59PM
Nope. He advocated population control. He supported euthenasia.
Skippy| 4.24.12 @ 7:45PM
So does CNR.
We could start with him.
I'm sure he supports our youth in Asia.
Bob Miller| 4.23.12 @ 5:22PM
See
http://www.shemayisrael.com/pu.....limits.htm
Conservative Not Republican| 4.23.12 @ 5:41PM
School yourselves:
http://conservamerica.org/conservativequotes/
Monkey Overstreet| 4.24.12 @ 11:03AM
Death to the environment! The environment is for Earth-and Stalin Worshippers! Blacktop the Rockies. Obama is a Sudanese Muslim Earth Worshiper! Cough, Cough. Hack.
Marc Jeric| 4.23.12 @ 6:50PM
Environmentalism is a cult of death; the eco-nazis want to reduce the world population from the existing 6.5 billion down to the "sustainable" level of only 1.5 billion. They are larger by several orders of magnitude than the combined efforts of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Min, Pol Pot, Kim (several of them), Mugabe, and assorted mass murderers all over the world's history.
Monkey Overstreet| 4.24.12 @ 3:16PM
Yes, YES, Death to the environment!
Cynthia Lauren Thorpe| 4.23.12 @ 7:05PM
Wow. What a 'hostile' climate, indeed.
'Conserve'... whomever you're getting paid by - and whatever you're getting paid with...I suggest that you calm down, stop taking the cash and quit smoking whatever it is that you're on, dear.
Your 'dust ups' aren't worth reading. You prove over and over again - the liberal mantra of 'attack and disparage' rather than put forth any Truth.
You have 'no substance' in your words, 'Conserve' - you only spew PRO-pagan-DUH...
Ever thought of getting a 'real' job? Say...feeding the wolves in Yellowstone by hand...? I'll supply the funding, it'd be my pleasure, in fact. For, then - I'd be able to complete my 'Animal Behavior' class from Hillsdale College - another marxist bastion of non-truth...just like Adrian who just booted that nice Christian guy's talk...oh, Yes. Pat Boone.
I especially liked your 'Jesus!' comment. Yes - 'Jesus' keep on sayin' that - 'cause He still is the Name Above All Names - however you choose to slice it. He loves you, Conserve - while I really don't - He does - and He CREATED the environment you worship - look 'higher' than the
environment that you've made - and He'll be right there to assist you. He always is.
Hugs to you, Conserve. Hugs and my prayers go out to you. Now...just help me with that...keep sayin' JESUS...
C.L. Thorpe
POST American| 4.24.12 @ 3:11AM
AS we just learn our national parks
are to be shut down to human access.
AGAIN, the American people are being
stigmatized, marked and pre-emptively
criminalized in every way, on every level.
MEANWHILE, the corporate capstone
has just spent the past 5 decades bringing in
their highly engineered 'CON--Sumer'
'cull--chore' and our plastics spewing
franchise slums and box stores.
NOW, with even plastic bottles being
wrapped in plastics, and CHEM-trails
knitting out skies ---we the people are
'the problem'----as the Rockefeller Foundation
et al remain unchallenged, at large and
at the helm.
In this, the 11th hour of the Globalist
CFR--RED China handover, takedown,
TREASON, OCCUPATION and FINAL,
LETHAL EUGENICS OP-----no time
for B S.
ebonystone| 4.24.12 @ 1:31PM
Mr. Mehan, that's "notochord", not "notchchord". It's an evolutionary precursor of the bony spine. Didn't they require a course in biology at your Jesuit college?
G. Tracy Mehan, III| 4.25.12 @ 10:08AM
Ebonytstone:
Don't blame it on the Jesuits. My error entirely.
Thanks for catching this typo.