The American Spectator : Will Harry Reid Elect Mitt Romney?

aware| 4.20.12 @ 7:33AM

Reid will have to cause I sure won't.

Jack in Wi.| 4.20.12 @ 7:57AM

Romney and Reid are both stinkers and so is Orrin Hatch. The Mormons are mostly right on abortion and gay marriage from what I can see. Romney and Reid are against church doctrine on the subject. Just because Reid is a POS how does that help Romney? TheDemocrats are not going to directly attack Romney's religious faith. They will have their pals in the media do it. Mormon doctrine is not Christian and most of us know it. We have had non Christians before as Presidents. The Adams' and Taft were Unitarians. Lincoln was a heathen who went to his wife's church on occasion. Jefferson was no conventional Christian. Obama is a nominal Muslim, atheist or unitarian. The Rev Wright's Church was unitarian not really Christian. There are plenty of others who don't fit the bill.

Steve| 4.20.12 @ 8:15AM

What you say may be true. But Reid is a liberal first and a Mormon second and he'll take the bullet for the squad. Get ready for the most intense (and in some ways amusing) anti-Mormon barrage since the 19th century with the Left using it to advance the meme of *stupid* and *rayciss* Romney. And Reid won't say a thing.

JoshInHB| 4.21.12 @ 11:59AM

You know,

The left will probably try that, mostly because the bubble in which they reside has completely detached them from reality. In fact I hope they try it because it will boomerang back on them and expose them as the morally bankrupt joke that they really are.

Between their attack on motherhood, calling a guy with darker skin than Obama a "white latino" and crude religious bigotry, no on will ever take them seriously again.

SWOhio| 4.22.12 @ 12:48PM

The left may not say anything about Reid being a Mormon and leader of the Senate, but the rest of us will, and before many more days are over, all leftists will be forced to own it.

Just curious and too busy to look it up myself, how far down is Reid from becoming POTUS, in the list of succession?

This is yet another attack that the imbeciles in the WH didn't think through. Here I thought they were all the smartest people on the planet, at least they keep telling us they are.

BTW, where is PETA? I thought they were on full attack on Romney for his treatment of Seamus the dog. Could it be that discussing the treatment of dogs is no longer helpful to Obama's campaign?

jlt| 4.22.12 @ 11:03AM

I would argue that one man recognizes that faith and politics are separate and he is a Patriot!
I would argue secondly, that the degree to which the presidential aspirant has delved into the restrictive depths of his faith as an Bishop and the president of Stake, make it difficult to believe his ability to separate those factions or act in the manor necessary to lead all the people of this Nation!

Regardless of the aspirants flipflops there is nothing to indicate that he would be other than what he is as a severe adherent of his faith to the exclusion of all else!

Mr. Reid on the other hand, has by his record, been seen as a person OF THE PEOPLE First!

It is not about being a ____ church member but about being an American First and foremost!

Mr. ODonnell may be pointing his finger at the wrong issue..It is not as a member that causes concern but as a rigid enforcer of said religion!

Poppakap| 4.23.12 @ 2:31PM

This is perhaps the most vile and stupid comment I've read in years. Devoid of truth and reason, it shows the embarrassing depths of bigotry and circular reasoning prominent in the political left.

Zbigniew Mazurak | 4.20.12 @ 1:36PM

Romney supports federal Constitutional amendments banning abortion and gay marriage, as well as overturning Roe v. Wade.

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 2:54PM

Mittens Romney Is The Ruling Elites' Flip Floppin' Phoney RINO-CINO Opportunist, Playing Religious Conservatives As His " Useful Dupes".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 5:25PM

SPLAIN the below concerning CATHOLIC NUNS........CINO BOY!!!!

Poppakap| 4.23.12 @ 2:33PM

...and Clint, the ever-servile Paulite who sees nothing but black helicopters and conspiracy theories when discussing any and every candidate except his oh-so-beloved and soon to be a memory, South Texas congressman.

Lyneuss Fields | 4.20.12 @ 2:13PM

Mitt Romney's religion isn't about his beliefs per se. The issue is about Joseph Smith Jr. and Brigham Young's commission of crimes against humanity throughout 19th century America. These crimes are well documented in Mormonism's Journal of Discourses and Comprehensive History by the actors themselves in speeches and sermons to their faithful. Again, the issue is about murderers that Mitt Romney worships as living prophets.
http://lyneussfields.blogspot......gious.html

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 2:53PM

Mormon bigot alert. Your blog sucks and no one cares, you get anyone to comment yet?

Lyneuss Fields | 4.20.12 @ 5:07PM

Do you speak for yourself or the turd Mormonism has placed into your pocket?

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 5:54PM

I speak for normal functioning people against demented bigots like yourself.

Lyneuss Fields | 4.20.12 @ 8:37PM

Look bonehead, no matter which blog or news network you want to fixate your beady, little, squirmy eyes on (including Fox News); every rational person knows Romney is bad news for the Conservatives and their precious f'n values. Once David Axelrod releases the dirt on your scumbag (mid-August or September) Republicans are going to be stuck with this dead horse liar and no viable candidate for the election in November.
http://lyneussfields.blogspot......adows.html

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 11:09PM

Do you know how pathetic it is to try to pimp your blog here is? A blog read absolutely no one for good reason. You are a disgrace to Utah State

Lyneuss Fields | 4.21.12 @ 1:30AM

Maybe you'd like to pull your head out of your ass and re-write your last post so it makes sense-- you bonehead, you!

Todd S| 4.21.12 @ 10:16AM

Let me know when someone actually comments on your insane blog. They let you out of the asylum again?

jlt| 4.22.12 @ 11:27AM

The posit that it is a christian --non christian issue , I see as a diversion!

It is about how much those principles dictate your life and interaction with the World at large! If the history is that there is no separation and you are narrowly defined by those dictates and dogma...It is close to trusting the televangelist to not inflict his or her beliefs on governance ...Or the Southern Baptist preacher which is my background or or!!!!

We have clear evidence that the interjection of faith into politics is not in the best interest of all the people of this Nation! With , the war on Women, the displacement of programs that support children and the elderly, the Stand your Ground Laws, the anti-labor movement, the underfunding of education, the People are losing to the ferment of the extreme religious views of the those elected!

I would not want a baptist preacher as my President any more than a Mormon bishop! The ideology of the dogma is opposed to the principles of ALL THE PEOPLE!

A person of faith, yes, but not an enforcer to the flock!

jstwndring| 4.23.12 @ 1:27AM

"We have clear evidence that the interjection of faith into politics is not in the best interest of all the people of this Nation!"

Who's injecting faith here? Democrats. It's always Democrats. They're the ones spoiling for a fight, then, playing the victim afterward. I don't see Romney harping on it.

"With the war on Women,...."

Again, what war? Oh, you mean the one that Democrats started! No one on the Republican side ever said they would deny women contraceptives. They are available right now! Check for yourself. We just aren't going to pay for it.

".....the displacement of programs that support children and the elderly,..."

You fancy programs that help the elderly, do you? Like, say, Obamacare? I hope you don't plan on aging, because at age 55, the "elderly" will all be eligible for "end of life counseling", at which point they'll tell them to just drop dead. Nice support for the elderly there. You think I'm exaggerating here, don't you? Look it up yourself. There is a panel that will be responsible for determining how many "quality of life years" you have left which is determined by a mathematical formula. If you don't score well, you will be denied health care. It's happening right now in other countries with socialized medicine like Canada and England.

"....the anti-labor movement,..."

If, by anti-labor movement you mean labor unions, then absolutely. We are generally against labor unions as they tend to weaken and even destroy companies.

Now, since you said, "the anti-labor movement", I'm gonna go ahead accuse the Democrat Party of being against American labor since they are always passing laws that punish businesses for success and are, in fact, pushing businesses to look for more hospitable business environments overseas. The CEO of Home Depot said he could not re-build his enormous chain of stores again from scratch because of the cost prohibitive and hostile business environment created here by the government. And, of course, that means fewer opportunities for new entrepreneurs which, in turn, means fewer jobs.

"....underfunding of education...."

Nonsense. Education funding is always being increased by both political parties. And what do have to show for it? One of the worst educational systems in the west. Pathetic.

".....the People are losing to the ferment of the extreme religious views of the those elected!"

I disagree. We've been losing to the atheists and agnostics. Face it, we've been trying the failed policies of secular humanism for the last 70 years and the country has gotten progressively (pun intended) worse! Here's a novel idea: Let's try going back to our roots of Limited Federal Government for the next 70 years, and see how that goes? We can then compare the results of collectivism and see how it stacks up against the free market of a proper Constitutional Republic and all the individual liberty, freedom, and prosperity that results from it. I predict it wouldn't be much of a horse race.

Poppakap| 4.23.12 @ 2:39PM

Strawberry Fields, the only thing that's necessary to bring down your anointed one is his record. No more, no less. His administration makes Carter look competent and I didn't think that was possible EVER. But what did the people of the US expect from someone who's never held a private sector job, and who hides his background of poor performance with an army of lawyer enforcers.

Asselrod will of course do his typical leftist smear act, but the majority of the American electorate will simply ask themselves whether they are better off now then they were 4 years ago, and pull the lever for Mitt.

In Bubba's words, "It's the economy, stupid."

Poppakap| 4.23.12 @ 2:34PM

...or perhaps the beam your bigoted beliefs have placed in your eye.

SWOhio| 4.22.12 @ 12:53PM

The point of this article is that if Romney;s religion makes him unelectable, then Reid must be fired as well.

So far I haven't heard a lib suggest that.

I'm sure they will request that Reid resign, unless they are all flaming hypocrits.

jstwndring| 4.23.12 @ 1:36AM

"I'm sure they will request that Reid resign, unless they are all flaming hypocrits."

You'd think that they would eventually pick up that rake of hypocrisy and put it in the shed, but, no. Apparently, they enjoy being smacked in the face with it. It makes for good humor.

Go ahead, morons, step on it again.

Lyneuss Fields | 4.23.12 @ 1:43PM

Reid is a scumbag liar just like Romney. His behavior of hiding legislation (The Affordable Healthcare Act) from the full Senate until cloture vote is evidence of the Mormon technique of cover-up--a fundamental trait among Mormon Church hierarchy.
http://lyneussfields.blogspot......chine.html

Poppakap| 4.23.12 @ 2:42PM

Strawberry Fields, you really need medical attention. So much animosity is not good for one's soul. It's clearly affecting your ability to be rational. Moreover, your writing is exceptionally hard on the eyes and short on reason, not to mention objective evidence.

Lyneuss Fields | 4.23.12 @ 4:07PM

Strawberry Fields is a touchstone for many of us sixties people, Conservatives and Liberals alike. Evidence concerning Romney's lies is abundantly available online as is Reid's behavior as Senate Majority Leader. So when you say objective evidence, exactly what are you looking for, phony debunked ideology or Mormon myths?

Lost| 4.20.12 @ 3:31PM

Unitarianism is christian. Mormans are christian. Lincoln was not a heathen, he believed in god.

What is your idea of christian?

Vern Crisler| 4.20.12 @ 4:06PM

By historic definition, a Christian believes in the doctrine of the Trinity, the deity of Jesus, salvation by grace, the truth of the Bible, the reality of miracles, at the least. Anyone who denies these things is regarded as either a heretic or a theological liberal.

Purp| 4.20.12 @ 4:27PM

Actually, no, the Trinity is Catholic doctrine primarily, as are miracles, saints and sanctification, not Protestant.

Burke | 4.20.12 @ 5:04PM

The Trinity is not primarily Catholic doctrine. Orthodox, Anglicans, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Baptists, and many other evangelicals believe in the Trinity. The Orthodox, and some Anglicans and Lutherans also accept saints and miracles. By the way, these are also the four largest dominations in the world.

Richard M| 4.21.12 @ 10:16AM

The Trinity is a rock bottom minimum marker for Christianity, and has been taken as such. Is Jesus Christ fully God and fully man? That's what it comes down to. Because the alternative is that, invariably, the person doesn't believe that Jesus was truly God.

That leaves plenty of room for disagreement on how to understand that. But it is something that Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox all believe.

Poppakap| 4.23.12 @ 2:52PM

But that agreement doesn't make the doctrine correct. Why does a doctrine created by the Nicene Creed 300 years after the Savior's death, and found nowhere in the Bible (the term "trinity" is extra-biblical and was created @ Nicea in an attempt to appease the Hellenist philosophers whose ideas of God were incompatible with the Christian fathers) have acceptance in the Christian church? Because of tradition. No more, no less.

From the Desk of Media Matters| 4.21.12 @ 1:14PM

Jacquelina Penelope Barney Fecal Maddow Pelosi,

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots are surprised you are such a stupid liar that you the idiot don't even know what a protestant is.

Even as our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots are beginning a heated argument as to whether it should have been surprising at all that you the idiot have always been this stupid a liar.

MM staff greatly enjoys our jobs at times like these.

- MM staff

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 5:12PM

Vern, I think your statement could be construed as accurate given your couching it as an "historic definition" but Purp (as much as it distresses me to say) is essentially correct. I say "essentially" because the Doctrine of the Trinity is most assuredly the doctrine of all of the mainline Protestant denominations as well as most of the others. To my knowledge, in terms of Protestantism, only the Unitarians deny the Trinity. I'm sure there are one or two others, but I'm not a Theologian. I believe Coptics also deny the Trinity but don't quote me on that. Martin Luther, the first and greatest of the Reformers, most assuredly held the Doctrine of the Trinity to be inviolate. In any event, I got your meaning and Purp is, more or less, splitting hairs.

Appleby| 4.20.12 @ 9:59PM

I believe the Jehovah's Witnesses also deny the Trinity.

Alan Brooks| 4.20.12 @ 9:57PM

Romney; just today he said he'll have the pipeline built, even if he has to do it himself. But if so, mightn't he bruise one of his pinkies?

Jack in Wi.| 4.20.12 @ 11:59PM

Ha Ha Ha good one Alan.

Alan Brooks| 4.21.12 @ 6:11PM

Mittens is not a public servant such as Ike and Reagan were, Mittens is a blatant opportunist who has always had everything and now wants the White House.
Mittens is JFK without PT109.

From the Desk of Media Matters| 4.23.12 @ 9:23AM

The PT109 he somehow managed to sink?

This is why MM fired you for incompetence long ago.

- MM staff

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 7:45AM

Axelrod Played The Race Card In The Philadelphia John Street/Sam Katz Mayoral Election.

The Axelrod/Obama/ Mainstream Media Axis Is Attempting To Keep The Campaign From Focusing On," It's The Economy, Stupid".

Doctor Right| 4.20.12 @ 9:40AM

Clint = Teflon93

...anybody seem Teflon93, lately? He seems to have disappeared after his secret was uncovered.

Crassus| 4.20.12 @ 11:10AM

I don't think they're the same. Teflon93 made sense on occasion. Clint never makes sense.

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 11:26AM

Dr.Reich's The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooge,Who Says He'll Vote For The Ruling Elites' RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney.

We Are Being Set Up By The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 11:47AM

" Crassus| 4.12.12 @ 11:31AM
All right you, RINOs, you got your boy Mittenz the nomination. Now see if you can get him elected. Don't worry, you can always blame us conservatives when he loses. That's what you always do."

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 1:36PM

'....use of the white supremacist term “Israel firsters.”....'

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 3:01PM

Uh Oh !

The RINO-CINO Israel Firster Smear Bund Plays The White Supremist Card On Tea Party Clint.

You Wouldn't Know Real Conservtism If It Jumped Up And Bit Ya Israel Firster Smear Bund RINO-CINO Mittens' Kitten.

Read George Washington's Farewell Address, Thomas Jefferson's First Inaugural Address, The Old Right And Get Back To Us.

" George Will, "Today, we have a very different kind of foreign policy. It’s called Wilsonian. And the premise of the Bush Doctrine is that America must spread democracy, because our national security depends upon it. And America can spread democracy. It knows how. It can engage in national building. This is conservative or not?"

William F. Buckley, " It’s not at all conservative. It’s anything but conservative. It’s not conservative at all, inasmuch as conservatism doesn’t invite unnecessary challenges. It insists on coming to terms with the world as it is …”

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 3:22PM

Blame Braitbart.com, not me for outing you types......IF THE FU EXCREMENTS as the old saying goes no doubt [or THE TRUTH HURTS]!!!!

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 4:26PM

Aren't You The Israel Firster Smear Bund Traitor Bastard,Who Attempted To Badmouth Our American Combat Legend, David Christian,Who's Also Our Pennsylvania Senate Candidate, On One Of Today's Blogs.

http://teapartycheer.com/bios/.....an-pa-bio/

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 5:02PM

Interesting, How You Play Your Israel Firster Smear Bund Word Games.

" Clint| 4.20.12 @ 12:57PM

Our American Warriors Aren't To Be Used As Cannon Fodder & Our National Treasure Isn't To Be Pissed Away Policing The Middle East For Your Israel Firster Agenda.

Our Legendary Combat Senate Republican Candidate Dave Christian Wants Us Out Of Afghanistan & Iraq And Drilling Our Own Oil.

http://teapartycheer.com/bios/.....an-pa-bio/ "

" Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 2:04PM

You're your own worst enemy or simply stupid: '....... He has defended via retweet MJ Rosenberg’s use of the white supremacist term “Israel firsters.” He accuses conservatives of attacking “everyone who doesnt march in lockstep with Israel.” ....' "

That Was Said On Breitbart.Com About Media Matters' Oliver Willis

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 11:50PM

I hope you're not STUPIDLY referring to me, as I've never heard of him and could care less about that Yankee labor unionized swamp of Pennsylvania. Please, Santorum is/was bad enough and has possibly destroyed any chance of Republicans winning in November!!!

Clint| 4.21.12 @ 5:13PM

Do Your Homework Israel Firster Smear Bund Goebbels Propaganda Buffoon, Oldefarte.

Obviously,We Have Pushed Oldefarte's Button.

" On Iran,The President Should,
4.) Speak to the American people and tell them to expect to be brutally propagandized by U.S. citizen Israel-Firsters through AIPAC, their ubiquitous media shills, and the men and women they own in the U.S. Congress and federal bureaucracy. Urge Americans to ignore this effort by U.S. Israel-Firsters to get them to send their soldier-children to fight in a religious war in which the U.S. has no genuine national interest at stake, and in which U.S. participation would further bankrupt the country, require the reintroduction of conscription, and put America at war with all of the Muslim world -- Shia and Sunni -- for the foreseeable future."

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 11:55PM

What are you again quoting from that goonie-bird looking ex-CIA desk-jockey, who couldn't find a spook even if standing two feet from same? What happen to RJ @Media Matters?????

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 5:27PM

Who is being 'set up' by the below story about CATHOLIC NUNS......CINO IDIOT??????

Clint| 4.21.12 @ 10:42AM

Uh Oh !
The Lapsed Catholic Turned Ax Grindin' Anti-Catholic Bigot, Fart Comes Outta The Closet.

Now, Tell The Readers About The Church You Previously Have Posted You Attend, Fartpants.

You're Up Fartpants.

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 4:36PM

'......Breitbart.com Media Matters Fights War on Christians by Ben Shapiro 21 hours ago CBN News has uncovered Media Matters for America’s foundational IRS documents – and they show that Media Matters was constructed as a weapon against Christians. According to its application for non-profit status, it was created in order to counter pro-Christian “bias in news reporting and analysis by the American media”:It is common for news and commentary by the press to present viewpoints that tend to overly promote … a conservative, Christian-influenced ideology.Yet, as Vince Coglianese of the Daily Caller points out, the public mission of MMFA somehow leaves out that little tidbit of information.That’s typical. The real agenda of MMFA is to cover for the ultra-left, which despises both Israel and a Christian America which supports it. As we’ve been exposing all week, Media Matters is filled to the gills with anti-Israel extremists – and all of those anti-Israel extremists despise Christians just as much.......'

Clint| 4.21.12 @ 5:20PM

You're A Phoney Hypocrite Mittens' Kitten, Oldefarte.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4

These Ruling Elites' RINO-CINO Romney Flunkie Stooges Are Attempting To Play Us Religious Conservatives As Their "Useful Dupes".

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 11:57PM

No you are an UN-useful Dupe, and not even a Grand Dragon either!!!!!

Elron H.| 4.20.12 @ 1:12PM

I agree completely with Doctor Right.

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 3:05PM

Uh Oh !

The Israel Firster Smear Bund Poseur Poster Fake L.Ron Hubbard Is In The Building.

Michael| 4.20.12 @ 1:25PM

Clint aso posts as Sphincter, apt name.

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 3:08PM

That's A Lie.

You're A Liar, Little Micky RINO-CINO.

But Then, You Already Know That.

We Are Being Set Up By The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 5:28PM

Same question....see below?????

Clint| 4.21.12 @ 10:43AM

The Lapsed Catholic Turned Ax Grindin' Anti-Catholic Bigot, Fart Comes Outta The Closet.

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 4:36PM

'......Breitbart.com Media Matters Fights War on Christians by Ben Shapiro 21 hours ago CBN News has uncovered Media Matters for America’s foundational IRS documents – and they show that Media Matters was constructed as a weapon against Christians. According to its application for non-profit status, it was created in order to counter pro-Christian “bias in news reporting and analysis by the American media”:It is common for news and commentary by the press to present viewpoints that tend to overly promote … a conservative, Christian-influenced ideology.Yet, as Vince Coglianese of the Daily Caller points out, the public mission of MMFA somehow leaves out that little tidbit of information.That’s typical. The real agenda of MMFA is to cover for the ultra-left, which despises both Israel and a Christian America which supports it. As we’ve been exposing all week, Media Matters is filled to the gills with anti-Israel extremists – and all of those anti-Israel extremists despise Christians just as much.......'

Occam's Tool| 4.20.12 @ 2:56PM

Teflon93 was Zionist. He had a few redeeming values.

At any rate, "a religious test shall not be required," etc. , guys. I am much more worried about Keith Ellison's religious beliefs than Harry Reid's (he has none) or Mitt Romney (I know a lot of Mormons. Not a one that isn't a good guy, or a sweet lady). Please, this is just another Libtard piece of shite.

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 3:06PM

Occam, do you suppose O'Donnell restricts himself to just performing intellectual fellatio on Obamarx? I think maybe he's into the real thing, too. What a loser.

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 3:13PM

Mittens Romney Is The Ruling Elites' Flip Floppin' Phoney RINO-CINO Opportunist, Playing Religious Conservatives As His " Useful Dupes".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 3:25PM

Better a flip-flopper than a ['.... He has defended via retweet MJ Rosenberg’s use of the white supremacist term “Israel firsters.” He accuses conservatives of attacking “everyone who doesnt march in lockstep with Israel.” .....'] right?????

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 4:15PM

Our American Combat Legend David Christian Says What He Means And Means What He Says.

Interesting, How Time & Again,You Israel Firster Traitor Bastards Badmouth Our American Military Officers.

For his actions during the Vietnam war, Christian was awarded: The Distinguished Service Cross, Two Silver Stars, Bronze Star, Seven Purple Hearts, and Two Vietnamese Crosses of Gallantry, among other medals. He was also twice nominated for the Congressional Medal of Honor.

http://www.daveforsenate.com/

Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 12:00AM

I have no idea who or what you're talking about. Are you drunk? Christian, who the hades is that? rick's blow-buddy maybe? Don't bother me about some local yockle from Pennsylvania!!!!!!

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 5:18PM

Do Your Homework, Israel Firster Smear Bund RINO-CINO Mittens' Kitten Fart.

Dr.Ron Paul's Foreign Policy Advisor, Michael Scheuer: Former C.I.A. Chief Of The bin Laden Unit

" On Iran The President Should:

4.) Speak to the American people and tell them to expect to be brutally propagandized by U.S. citizen Israel-Firsters through AIPAC, their ubiquitous media shills, and the men and women they own in the U.S. Congress and federal bureaucracy. Urge Americans to ignore this effort by U.S. Israel-Firsters to get them to send their soldier-children to fight in a religious war in which the U.S. has no genuine national interest at stake, and in which U.S. participation would further bankrupt the country, require the reintroduction of conscription, and put America at war with all of the Muslim world -- Shia and Sunni -- for the foreseeable future."

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 5:30PM

SPLAIN YOUS HOMEWORK CONCERNING THE CATHOLIC NUNS ......CINO MEDIA MATTERS WHITE KNIGHT BOY!!!!

Clint| 4.21.12 @ 10:46AM

The Lapsed Catholic Turned Ax Grindin' Anti-Catholic Bigot, Fart Comes Outta The Closet.

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 4:38PM

Here's yous 'closet':
'......Breitbart.com Media Matters Fights War on Christians by Ben Shapiro 21 hours ago CBN News has uncovered Media Matters for America’s foundational IRS documents – and they show that Media Matters was constructed as a weapon against Christians. According to its application for non-profit status, it was created in order to counter pro-Christian “bias in news reporting and analysis by the American media”:It is common for news and commentary by the press to present viewpoints that tend to overly promote … a conservative, Christian-influenced ideology.Yet, as Vince Coglianese of the Daily Caller points out, the public mission of MMFA somehow leaves out that little tidbit of information.That’s typical. The real agenda of MMFA is to cover for the ultra-left, which despises both Israel and a Christian America which supports it. As we’ve been exposing all week, Media Matters is filled to the gills with anti-Israel extremists – and all of those anti-Israel extremists despise Christians just as much.......'

Clint| 4.21.12 @ 5:22PM

You're A Phoney Hypocrite Mittens' Kitten, Oldefarte.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4

These Ruling Elites' RINO-CINO Romney Flunkie Stooges Are Attempting To Play Us Religious Conservatives As Their "Useful Dupes".

Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 12:03AM

"Useful Dupes" Nah, that was your parish priest who did that!!!!!!

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 11:11AM

'.....Breitbart.com Media Matters' Oliver Willis Wants Pro-Israel Liberals 'Marginalized' by Ben Shapiro 21 hours ago As we revealed yesterday, MJ Rosenberg wasn’t the only anti-Israel extremist working at Media Matters for America: Senior Fellow Eric Boehlert once downplayed genocidal anti-Semitism, routinely suggests that media coverage is too pro-Israel thanks to the intimidation by nefarious forces (hint hint), and defended terrorist professor Sami Al-Arian.Today, we examine Oliver Willis, a research fellow at Media Matters. Just like MJ and Eric, Willis is an anti-Israel extremist with a soft spot for anti-Semitism.Willis once referred to Paul Wolfowitz as “filthy” and Joe Lieberman as “fascistic.” He accused Israel of “Playing Games With American Lives” for building settlements, and wrote that he “can’t wait for the day when we can tell both sides [of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict] to go to hell.” He has stated that “The Democratic Party will be at its best” only once pro-Israel AIPAC-associated liberals like Josh Block are “marginalized.” He has defended via retweet MJ Rosenberg’s use of the white supremacist term “Israel firsters.” He accuses conservatives of attacking “everyone who doesnt march in lockstep with Israel.” And while anti-Israel fanatic Glenn Greenwald accuses me of watering down the term anti-Semitism by pointing out Media Matters’ relentless pattern of providing cover to anti-Semites, he has nothing to say about Willis, who likened one mosque being burned in Tennessee to full-blown Nazi treatment of Jews.Willis isn’t literate on the Israel-Palestinian issue (as with most other issues); his anti-Israel feeling seems to come from groupthink more than from the informed anti-Israel radicalism of MJ Rosenberg or Boehlert. And yet Willis is one of Media Matters’ key in-house policers of right-wing anti-Semitism. Ah, the irony.More to come.....'

Tim the Enchanter| 4.20.12 @ 1:01PM

I see you've learned well from Clint. Cutting and pasting this same rant on every article here.

Occam's Tool| 4.20.12 @ 2:57PM

Yes, Tim, but it's a NICE rant. I do like paragraphs, though.

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 3:11PM

I compress material for spacial purposes....otherwise I'll be accused of taking up too much space here!!!

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 3:18PM

Our American Warriors Aren't To Be Used As Cannon Fodder & Our National Treasure Isn't To Be Pissed Away Policing The Middle East For Your Israel Firster Agenda.

Our Legendary Combat Senate Republican Candidate Dave Christian Wants Us Out Of Afghanistan & Iraq And Drilling Our Own Oil.

http://teapartycheer.com/bios/.....an-pa-bio/

Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 12:06AM

Don't whine to me.....my decision would have been to send all of our B-52's loaded with our most lethal explosives over to Afganistan's deserts after 9/11!!!!!!!!

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 1:33PM

'....use of the white supremacist term “Israel firsters.”....'

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 3:41PM

Uh Oh !

Again,
The RINO-CINO Israel Firster Smear Bund Plays The White Supremist Card On Tea Party Clint.

Like I Said,
You Wouldn't Know Real Conservatism If It Jumped Up And Bit Ya Israel Firster Smear Bund RINO-CINO Mittens' Kitten.

Read George Washington's Farewell Address, Thomas Jefferson's First Inaugural Address, The Old Right And Get Back To Us.

" George Will, "Today, we have a very different kind of foreign policy. It’s called Wilsonian. And the premise of the Bush Doctrine is that America must spread democracy, because our national security depends upon it. And America can spread democracy. It knows how. It can engage in national building. This is conservative or not?"

William F. Buckley, " It’s not at all conservative. It’s anything but conservative. It’s not conservative at all, inasmuch as conservatism doesn’t invite unnecessary challenges. It insists on coming to terms with the world as it is …”

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 5:31PM

How bout them NUNS ......CATHOLIC CINO BOY?????????

Clint| 4.21.12 @ 10:45AM

The Lapsed Catholic Turned Ax Grindin' Anti-Catholic Bigot, Fart Comes Outta The Closet.

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 4:39PM

Asked and answered above!!!!

Clint| 4.21.12 @ 5:24PM

The Lapsed Catholic Turned Ax Grindin' Anti-Catholic Bigot, Fart Comes Outta The Closet.

Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 12:09AM

Will and Buckley? Shazam, that's choice!!! Next you'll be quoting that editor of the Weekly Standard I guess!!!!

Alan Brooks| 4.21.12 @ 7:15PM

Romney is basically oriented towards opportunism, you can tell by his attitude:

"pack your bags Obama; I am the son of the great Romney (the really important Romney) and as I was governor of Taxachusetts, so too will I be president of the United States. When Joseph Smith received the golden plates, my name was written on them; the inscription being 'Mitt Romney, future president of the United States'. So donate to my campaign in the name of God because I cannot afford to pay for it; I am poor, my butler is poor, all the servants are poor.
Amen"

Dick Nome| 4.20.12 @ 7:57AM

Do Dems then think Obozo is safe from the Jeremiah Wright/ Calypso Louie/ Muslim issue ??

Tomper| 4.20.12 @ 8:56AM

Yes they do. The press will again supress any negativism with charges of Republican racism.

TLP| 4.20.12 @ 9:13AM

As to: Will the Muslim get a pass?

Yes.

As to Harry Reid? No. He will not help his fellow Parishoner, and to think otherwise is the height of Stupidity. One only need know the Quallity of the man.

JESUS said: "What does it profit a man, to gain the whole world, and lose his Immortal Soul?"

Harry Reid is a Multi Millionaire, who had PEANUTS until he became a Senator and began playing the game.

One need only check out all of his LAND DEALS, in the Nevadan outback. Buying Low on obvious worthless parcels of land, and then Selling HIGH, to a grateful constituent who (wouldn't you know it) suddenly became very interested on the formerly worthless acreage, because NOW, it seems that a New Highway Exit Ramp is in the works. A New Train Station. Something really, really good.

Then, of course, there's all of that INSIDER TRADING Money. All those Union Kickbacks to supplement his Senate Salary, and all of his Senate Free Stuff.

Does this SOUND like a Good Man?

He knows the History of the Mormon Church, in this Country. He knows how they were Driven Out of every place they set up their Church. He knows how they were HUNTED DOWN by the United States Army, for the CRIME of practicing their 1st Amendment Right of Freedom of Religion. All of these FACTS, he knows, but the only Fact he cares about, concerns How his Bread is Buttered, and by Whom.

Harry Reid will hold his tongue. He will NOT defend his fellow Parishoner, and for good reason.

He gave up his Immortal Soul, a long time ago.

Mike Hawk| 4.20.12 @ 10:06AM

I like your choice of quotes. I like the KJ or Geneva verbage the best.

One of my favorite bible verses: Mark 8:36
King James Version (KJV)

For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

Liberals should memorize it. They are lost souls especially Dingy Harry and Stretch Pelosi.

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 12:37PM

Well said TLP, most Mormons can't stand Dirty Harry and not just because of his politics but because he is a corrupt lying dirtbag. At least the ones that pay attention, there are the ignorant ones who just think it is dandy that a Mormon is the Senate Majority Leader regardless of the mans character. He will let Romney be slandered and not say a word about it because he is a man of no character.

markenoff| 4.21.12 @ 11:28PM

Mountain Meadow Massacre

Purp| 4.20.12 @ 4:30PM

He's already shown himself as careful, thoughtful, successful President. That crap doesn't mean anything now.

Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 12:10AM

What are you smoking?????

Gary B| 4.20.12 @ 8:00AM

So, let's use this very issue to swing the focus back around on Obama's record. Which would you rather have for president? An American Mormon or an anti-American Marxist?

Mormon or Marxist? How simple can you get?

Vern Crisler| 4.20.12 @ 11:33AM

Tough question. At least Marxists don't believe in a bogus history of early America.

These attempts to defend Romney against attacks on his Mormonism sound pretty desperate. The idea that someone is bigoted simply because he criticizes another's religion is just anti-intellectualism. A candidate's religion is fair game if there are aspects to that religion that are of political significance. (Most of you would undoubtedly question a Moslem candidate's religious views.)

There are aspects to Mormonism that cannot withstand extended scrutiny, primarily its historical confabulations and its theological eccentricities. Romney's problem will be in distancing himself from these things without appearing insincere. Romney is such a slippery snake, I'm sure he'll be able to do it.

In the meantime, Mormon politics is fair game for political discussion and critique.

Gary B| 4.20.12 @ 12:04PM

"(Most of you would undoubtedly question a Moslem candidate's religious views.)"

Not if he balanced the budget.

Beeblebrox| 4.20.12 @ 12:15PM

What if he both balanced the budget AND imposed Sharia? Is that okee-dokee?

Tim the Enchanter| 4.20.12 @ 1:07PM

Vern: But- Marxists do believe in a world economic history that never existed, as well. Marx knew nothing of economic, but an awful lot about the shortcomings of man, and how to play on them for profit. As far as The Church of Joseph Smith of Latter-Day Sinners go, can't argue with what you wrote.

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 1:37PM

Throwing stones in glass houses are we Tim?

Evan3457| 4.22.12 @ 5:25AM

The Constiution says (Article VI), and I quote: "but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

Appleby| 4.20.12 @ 8:15AM

I don't think it's fair to blame Mormons for things that happened before they were born; I do think asking them about what their stance was vis-a-vis the belief that Indians and Blacks were "coloured" as a curse by God for their treatment of White people, but if they repent they will be White in heaven, which was only changed when a class action lawsuit loomed.

But the operative point is that there is NO religious test for President; it is in fact specifically written into the Constitution that there shall not be such a test applied. We can personally judge Romney on his religion and personally decide we cannot vote for him in good conscience; we cannot deny him the right to have a shot at the job solely on account of his aspirations to parley that job into Godhood. Lord only knows what Obama thought HE would parley the presidency into, but it appears he has parleyed it into the La Brea Tar Pits in his case.

Romney should go on 60 Minutes and explain his beliefs and how he practices them, just so people know. But he isn't required to do so, and he cannot be prevented from the job by the fact that he is a Mormon.

drudge ette obama| 4.20.12 @ 8:40AM

But yesterday you weren't going to vote?

Show me one religion that doesn't have negative historical flaws and current strange beliefs.

We must believe the Constitution is correct and that there is a first amendment right to practice religion without government interference. Where is the respect for alternate religions, as long as the practitioners don't cram it down our throats or discriminate against us for not believing as they do?

How strange is the rite of communion, baptism, and last rites on unconscious people on death beds?

What about Obama eating dog because he believed it would impart that animal's strengths on him - not sure what the bugs were about, though.

Appleby, it is all about the economy and government reach. I could care a less about religion and Romney.

Doctor Detroit| 4.20.12 @ 10:09AM

very true. Also, Romney dedicated an entire speech to religion in 08. Let's keep our eye on the prize here.

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 12:41PM

Grasshoppers, man. Eat 'em and it gives you good ups on the b-ball court.

idalily| 4.20.12 @ 2:56PM

This is exactly right, Drudge ette. If we applied this sort of judgment to presidential candidates that Lawrence O'Donnell seems to be advocating, we'd never elect anyone. Catholics did unspeakable things during the Inquisition, Protestants had their witch hunts and their anti-Catholic bigotry, and on we go. This touches on the same sort of logic certain black leaders have had with their followers: because of what some Americans' white ancestors did to others' black ancestores, the present white Americans owe blacks today reparations.

We are not responsible for the actions of our ancestors. We can only do the best we can in our own lives. Now, if someone wants to judge Romney about being a church that was bigoted toward blacks while he was an adult, ok, a fair criticism, but what Mormons did way back when? No go.

My reaction? Meh. So Romney's Mormon. So what? I have my worries about Romney but his religion isn't one of them. Ditto for Harry Reid, BTW.

JoshInHB| 4.21.12 @ 12:12PM

If we applied this sort of judgment to presidential candidates that Lawrence O'Donnell seems to be advocating, we'd never elect anyone. Catholics did unspeakable things during the Inquisition, Protestants had their witch hunts and their anti-Catholic bigotry, and on we go.

It's actually much closer to home than that.

O'Donnell's hero Woodrow Wilson was a virulent racist that initiated segregation at the federal level, one of his supreme court judges famously ruled in favor of forced sterilization of inferior people saying "three generations of imbeciles is enough". The progressive hero Margaret Sanger was a racist that advocated for a soft genocide of undesirables. The great liberal icon Franklin Roosevelt was a racist that sent US citizens to concentration camps (literally).

So if dirtbags like Larry O'Donnell want to visit the intellectual history of the Mormon faith, conservatives should bring up the direct heritage of the progressive faith.

Gary B| 4.20.12 @ 10:35AM

Actually, Romney should go on 60 Minutes to explain how he's going to reduce spending and get us out of Obama's mess.

He should say, "Yes, I'm a Mormon. Now, let's talk about government spending and the national debt."

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 8:17AM

As Simple As, " None Of The Above."

Obama Is A Tarpster, Where Romney is A Tarpster.

Obama Orchestrated Obamacare, Where Romney Orchestrated Romneycare.

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 11:11AM

'.....Breitbart.com Media Matters' Oliver Willis Wants Pro-Israel Liberals 'Marginalized' by Ben Shapiro 21 hours ago As we revealed yesterday, MJ Rosenberg wasn’t the only anti-Israel extremist working at Media Matters for America: Senior Fellow Eric Boehlert once downplayed genocidal anti-Semitism, routinely suggests that media coverage is too pro-Israel thanks to the intimidation by nefarious forces (hint hint), and defended terrorist professor Sami Al-Arian.Today, we examine Oliver Willis, a research fellow at Media Matters. Just like MJ and Eric, Willis is an anti-Israel extremist with a soft spot for anti-Semitism.Willis once referred to Paul Wolfowitz as “filthy” and Joe Lieberman as “fascistic.” He accused Israel of “Playing Games With American Lives” for building settlements, and wrote that he “can’t wait for the day when we can tell both sides [of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict] to go to hell.” He has stated that “The Democratic Party will be at its best” only once pro-Israel AIPAC-associated liberals like Josh Block are “marginalized.” He has defended via retweet MJ Rosenberg’s use of the white supremacist term “Israel firsters.” He accuses conservatives of attacking “everyone who doesnt march in lockstep with Israel.” And while anti-Israel fanatic Glenn Greenwald accuses me of watering down the term anti-Semitism by pointing out Media Matters’ relentless pattern of providing cover to anti-Semites, he has nothing to say about Willis, who likened one mosque being burned in Tennessee to full-blown Nazi treatment of Jews.Willis isn’t literate on the Israel-Palestinian issue (as with most other issues); his anti-Israel feeling seems to come from groupthink more than from the informed anti-Israel radicalism of MJ Rosenberg or Boehlert. And yet Willis is one of Media Matters’ key in-house policers of right-wing anti-Semitism. Ah, the irony.More to come.....'

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 11:52AM

Call Bibi.

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 1:34PM

'....use of the white supremacist term “Israel firsters.”....'

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 5:20PM

Dr.Ron Paul's Foreign Policy Advisor, Michael Scheuer: Former C.I.A. Chief Of The bin Laden Unit

" On Iran The President Should:

4.) Speak to the American people and tell them to expect to be brutally propagandized by U.S. citizen Israel-Firsters through AIPAC, their ubiquitous media shills, and the men and women they own in the U.S. Congress and federal bureaucracy. Urge Americans to ignore this effort by U.S. Israel-Firsters to get them to send their soldier-children to fight in a religious war in which the U.S. has no genuine national interest at stake, and in which U.S. participation would further bankrupt the country, require the reintroduction of conscription, and put America at war with all of the Muslim world -- Shia and Sunni -- for the foreseeable future."

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 5:33PM

How bout them NUNS , CINO/MM BOY-TOY????

Clint| 4.21.12 @ 10:48AM

The Lapsed Catholic Turned Ax Grindin' Anti-Catholic Bigot, Fart Comes Outta The Closet.

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 4:40PM

Claa Bibi? Your telephone has Media Matters on speed dial!!!!!!!!!

Michael| 4.20.12 @ 1:42PM

Sphincter,
Why do you say call Bibi?
Do you have a job? You are here 24/7 posting the same stuff.

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 3:46PM

Asshole,
Call Bibi & He'll Tell Ya.

So Are You Israel Firster Smear Bund Traitor Bastard RINO-CINO's.

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 5:22PM

Here's ya CINO crap, moron!!!!:
'.... Breitbart.com Left-Wing Nuns Signed, Circulated Petitions for Walker Recall by Joel B. Pollak 12 hours ago As the Catholic Church takes action to counter the left-wing drift of American nuns, Breitbart.com has learned that hundreds of nuns are involved in the left's campaign to recall Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R)--in favor of pro-choice Democratic challengers.
The nuns who have circulated and signed petitions include sisters from convents and other Catholic institutions across the state. Over 100 signatures, for example, all of female voters, as verified through iverifytherecall.com, list the same address as a Dominican institution in Sinsinawa, WI, in the southwestern portion of the state. Representatives of that organization could not be reached for comment. One Catholic official at a school with a large number of signatories stressed that Catholic organizations advocate for the poor and downtrodden, but do not take political positions, and that what their individual members do is up to them alone. Though many Catholic voters support Walker, and roughly 40% of Wisconsin Republican primary voters are Catholic, there is some Catholic opposition to Walker's collective bargaining reforms among those partial to the "social justice" movement within the Catholic Church. Democrats are hoping to tap into that opposition.Walker's most likely Democratic challenger, former congressman and former Milwaukee mayor Tom Barrett, is a practicing Catholic but has been criticized for opposing the ban on federal funding for abortion. Other Democratic candidates--Kathleen Falk, Doug LaFollette, and Kathleen Vinehout--appear to be pro-choice.
The Vatican's recent effort to discipline the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR), the largest organization of American nuns, stresses support for the nuns' "social justice" efforts but concludes that the group is not supportive enough of Catholic teachings on abortion and sexuality.Many nuns who participate in the Leadership Conference supported Obamacare in 2010, according to the New York Times, in opposition to many American bishops who opposed the legislation. The law has recently been used by the Obama administration to force Catholic institutions to provide their employees with insurance coverage for abortifacients and contraceptives, contrary to Church teachings--and to Obama's promises.Thus far, social issues have not played as large a role in the Wisconsin recall as have questions about union power in state government, but the support of some Catholic nuns for gubernatorial challengers whose policies directly contradict Church teachings has already begun to provoke debate and controversy......'

Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 12:13AM

You call RJ @Media Matters and ask when your paycheck arrives!!!!

Doctor Right| 4.20.12 @ 1:13PM

...And Ron Paul is a "Nope-ster," as in...

"Nope. He ain't ever gonna' be President."

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 3:49PM

Dr.Reich's The Elitist Wannabe, Who Said He'll Vote For The Ruling Elites' RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney.

We Are Being Set Up By The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 5:35PM

No fool, them NUNS beez the CINO frontmen, dummie!!!!!

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 5:24PM

See the below concerning CATHOLIC NUNS, CINO BOY!!!!!!!!!!

Clint| 4.21.12 @ 10:49AM

The Lapsed Catholic Turned Ax Grindin' Anti-Catholic Bigot, Fart Comes Outta The Closet.

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 4:43PM

Howdie Doody [whose strings are manipulated by Media Matters] repeatatively states EVERYBODY'S A RINO-CINO!!!!!

Clint| 4.21.12 @ 5:27PM

The Lapsed Catholic Turned Ax Grindin' Anti-Catholic Bigot, Fart Comes Outta The Closet.

Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 12:16AM

Clint in the confessional: BLESS ME FATHER RON [or RJ] FOR I HAVE SINNED [FOR I AM STUPID]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

markenoff| 4.21.12 @ 11:31PM

"Romneycare" is 70 pages long. "Obamacare" is 2500 pages long. Yes they are exactly the same.

saleboter| 4.20.12 @ 8:20AM

I don't recall anyone in the Mormon faith saying "God Damn America

Gary B| 4.20.12 @ 10:37AM

Only an anti-American would say it and only an anti-American would sit and listen to it for twenty years.

RCV| 4.20.12 @ 12:42PM

How about this: "We will go to a land where there are at last no old settlers to quarrel with us…. We will leave this wicked nation, to themselves, for they have rejected the gospel, and I hope and pray that the wicked will kill one another & save us the trouble of doing it.”

- Brigham Young, quoted in “Journal of Heber C. Kimball,” under January 2, 1846; see Abanes, One Nation Under Gods, p. 216

... and no, Mitt Romney is no more responsible for Brigham Young calling America a "wicked nation" or for his vile racism than Obama is for Wright's views.

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 1:07PM

Let us have some context RCV. Do you know that the Governor of Missouri made an extermination order against the Mormons? And that President James Buchanan tried to make war against the Mormons in Utah for cheap political reasons? Fact is the country was in a bad state at that time until Lincoln was able to redeem it and allow it to reach its full potential. And I think there is a significant difference from something said over 160 years ago with Romney and what was said very recently while Obama sat in the pews. And like stated in the article, the Romney family was very involved in the Civil Rights movement. Nice try at moral equivocation RCV but fail.

RCV| 4.20.12 @ 3:29PM

Romney has nothing to apologize for. He's a fine man and his family has indeed been strong civil rights supporters.

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 3:56PM

Won't stop the liberal media from trying to make him out to be in a racist religious organization like the jerks at MSNBC and elsewhere. Of course Harry Reid gets a pass because he is one of them and his leftist politics always come first. Let's be honest RCV, it is the height of hypocrisy for the media to attack Romney's religion while they act like Obama never went to Rev Wright's very racist Church. I know you don't support it, just stating a fact.

RCV| 4.20.12 @ 5:23PM

I don't support it, Todd, anymore than I supported the attacks on Governor Christie's judicial nominee because he was a Muslim.

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 5:58PM

I know plenty of Muslim people that are nice people and contribute to society but I don't socialize with the other kind obviously. If the judicial nominee upholds the Constitution and does not want to make Sharia Law legal, I have no problem whatsoever.

Doctor Gonzo| 4.21.12 @ 9:12PM

As far as Harry Reid goes, it has been really well confirmed that they don't even care about the time where he slipped his tongue about Obama "not being all black" Combine that with plenty of other things, and you pretty much have the fact that the left really wants to win. This isn't to say that the right doesn't want to win, but sometimes, you get plenty of booing to you from the conservative voters and GOP politicians for when you make a misstep.

When people mention Brigham Young, I am not Mormon, but seriously, I have a good feeling that Young was dead long before Romney himself was born. Possibly even before Romney's father was born, whereas Obama and Wright actually lived at the same time.

Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 4.21.12 @ 1:25PM

I don't bother with nothing to apologize for as I abhor the tea party for completely lacking intelligence and Christian love and Christian compassion, and abhor every tea party policy since each policy is damaging the nation not only right now they are damaging the very future of the nation, as I strongly support Obama and the party of Obama that at least cares about human beings AFTER they're born, at least partially, matters.

RCV| 4.21.12 @ 1:39PM

Zzzzz....l

Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 4.21.12 @ 1:58PM

I don't apologize for losing reaction time in posting this reply, at least, 14 minutes is not bad for a 65 year old, AFTER he has sought lifelong scholarship, of both the the words of the founding fathers, and the words of the Bible, in order to be the devout churchgoing Christian, revering the Constitution, that I am, not to mention, at least, I don't post this reply AFTER I have typed the outrageous apocalyptically paranoid extremistly massacred letter z 55 million times, accountably, matters.

RCV| 4.21.12 @ 4:51PM

Your hardon is showing again, Skip.

Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 4.21.12 @ 7:49PM

I don't show readerz yet again another silly opportunity to be ridiculed -- in addition to the reminder that I hate the tea partierz because they wholly lack intelligence and Christian love and compassion while supporting policies that will destroy this nation -- by being the epitome of a liberal as defined by one of the best commentators here;

that iz, me being the epitome of a liberal who is me who pretends anger (hardonz) or indignation (hardonz) over ad hominem slurs (hardonz) while dispensing such slurs (hardonz) myself (hardonz), as I do both abundantly (hardonz) and ignorantly (hardonz) in my posts (hardonz), including my most recent (hardonz);

that iz, me being the epitome of a liberal who is me with my thoughts (hardonz) that are so meager (hardonz) and my feelings (hardonz) that are so insistent (hardonz) that my caressing (hardonz) fondness (hardonz) for my thoughts (hardonz) and feelings (hardonz) drives me to repeat (hardonz) myself (hardonz)endlessly (hardonz);

and that iz, me being the epitome of a liberal who is me who pretends (hardonz) to a lofty rationality (hardonz) as a kind of veneer (hardonz) to cover fiercely (hardonz) resentful (hardonz) passions (hardonz), which leak out (hardonz) constantly (hardonz) in the form of crazed (hardonz) projections (hardonz) relevatory of ignorance (hardonz), arrogance (hardonz), and a certain dogged stupidity (hardonz) that encompasses an odd (hardonz) fascination (hardonz) with violence (hardonz), that in short (why God why?), is reminiscent (hardonz) of a dog returning to his vomit (hardonz);

this being the silly opportunity I am much too much a lifelong scholar to ever show readerz, yet again, matterz.

Occam's Tool| 4.20.12 @ 3:02PM

Actually, Obama CHOSE that church BECAUSE of Wright.

Romney was BORN into his. Further, the Mormon church is one of the most decent religious organizations in the USA.

Missed the point, RCV. Brigham Young was dead when Romney was a Mormon. Wright baptised Obama's kids, and Obama loved the guy, AND his views, until they became embarrassing.

You are a wonderful advocate, but you can't put A-1 on a piece of shit and declare it Kobe steak.

RCV| 4.20.12 @ 3:36PM

Obama has strongly disavowed Wright's extremist views. He, like many other Black Chicagoans, were members of a well-respected community church, which did much good for black Chicagoans. And despite your rhetoric, Occam, the President is no "piece of shit", but a good and decent man whom I proudly support and will do so again this year.

The Mormons I know are today among the finest people in the community. The Church itself, however, has a long and troubling history. My wife's own great-great-grandfather narrowly escaped slaughter when passing through on the wagon train to California that was involved in the infamous Mountain Meadows Massacre. I hold Mitt Romney responsible for NONE of that history, but I have no fondness for the institution that he belongs to, even to this day.

I judge each of these own men on their own deeds, words and actions. I know you do, too. But we see things mightly differently, my friend.

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 4:08PM

RCV, he did not call the President a piece of shit. It was a metaphor and you are smart enough to realize that. Not sure how much good has been done for black Chicagoans by stirring them up to hate the "man" and living in past grievances. The message should be to stop blaming everyone else and take personal responsibility like Bill Cosby advocates until he gets shouted down by the race hustlers. Rev Wright is nothing but a race hustler and has made a good living for himself by doing so. Last I saw he was living in a gated community of million dollar homes.

The LDS Church is not responsible for what happened at Mountain Meadows but just the individuals involved, Brigham Young did not order it or approve of it after the fact and it is slander to say so. Like I said, James Buchanan holds a good deal of the responsibility for making it a very hostile situation by declaring war on Utah for no good reason. Something awful was bound to happen by doing so and God will hold him accountable as much as the murderers.

RCV| 4.20.12 @ 5:27PM

I have read everything about the incident, Todd, and Church complicity in it is pretty well established by most modern historians, notwithstanding the effort to make it look like the work of a few individuals.

But that IS ancient history, and there is no question that the outrageous persecutions the Latter Day Saints faced led to an apocoplyptic paranoia among 19th century Mormons.

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 6:03PM

I have never seen a smoking gun that shows Salt Lake leadership of the Church had anything to do with it. Just taking some general statements made by Brigham Young and attempting to connect it to the specific incident. The government never had a case for it or they would have tried to make it, you think James Buchanan would have passed that up? It is ancient history but there is no factual basis for making that implication.

markenoff| 4.21.12 @ 11:35PM

I have never seen a smoking gun that Hitler knew about what went on at Treblinka.

Doctor Right| 4.20.12 @ 1:15PM

Oh, they said it, alright. A long time ago.

Way back when, in the 1800's, they had hopes of establishing an independent country, known as "The Republic of Deseret." The symbol was a beehive.

And guess what's on the flag of Utah, right under the eagle?

A big, ole beehive!

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 1:44PM

Can't stop hating Mormons however ridiculous your assertions are Doctor. Do you know what the beehive represents? Industriousness, terrible isn't it? You know like the fact they relied on ourselves for everything and didn't expect anything from the government. I guess they should have just let Governor Boggs of Missouri exterminate them all while the Federal Government didn't lift a finger in protecting citizens from exercising their 1st amendment rights. You sound like the type that would have wanted to be in the mob that killed Joseph Smith and his brother Hyrum in cold blood.

Richard Baker| 4.20.12 @ 2:34PM

Todd S:
Agree. From Joseph's Smith's murder to Nauvoo to the move to Utah and the US Army attacking them in the 19th century, the Mormons could have become an angry religion lashing out but didn't and the beehive analogy is apt. Leave these people alone.

idalily| 4.20.12 @ 3:00PM

FYI, Brigham Young did some pretty bad things, too. People coming West back in the day did NOT want to go through Salt Lake. Seriously.

But it's all water under the bridge now. It's a non-issue. But like Cookiegate, and the dog on top of the car, and the "war on women", it says something about the Democrats and their campaign.

What's that smell? Oh, yeah. Desperation.

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 3:14PM

Well if you indicating that he ordered the Mountain Meadows massacre, you are mistaken. It should be noted that Jame Buchanan had announced war against Mormons and was preparing to send an army to the Utah territory so it is fair to say they were on high alert against intruders but certainly no order was given to kill anyone traveling through. The massacre took place far from Salt Lake City close to St. George and Brigham Young knew nothing about it until after the fact. The leader of the massacre John Lee was executed after being found guilty by a Mormon jury. Fact is James Buchanan is as responsible as anyone for it by his illegal war against the Mormons who were rightly fearful of a holocaust from their previous experiences.

RCV| 4.21.12 @ 1:57PM

I thought that Will Bagley made a pretty persuasive case for Young's responsibility in "Blood of the Prophets".

markenoff| 4.21.12 @ 11:36PM

At that time most of the pretty women in Utah married Young.

Mark| 4.20.12 @ 9:18AM

What controversy? I thought the Left was all about respecting an individuals right to choose, including his/her faith. Oh but wait, it's controversial because Ronmey is Conservative and he's running against ObaMao! OK. That's it! Makes sense now!

Mike Hawk| 4.20.12 @ 10:08AM

Romney is no Conservative. He is part of the the Republican Establishment and they have distain Conservatives.

Vern Crisler| 4.20.12 @ 11:37AM

It's the old double standard. I'm still waiting for Obama to say that some of those Secret Service agents could've been his sons.

albert constantine jr.| 4.20.12 @ 9:22AM

Again, I appreciate the work that Mr. Lord does in unearthing the sources of the left’s funding and exposing its hypocrisy. But to be fair, the latter isn’t news to most of us, and since they seem to be incapable of shame, is a task that should only inform a small cabal of “independents”.

Of course, I did enjoy reading where O’Donnell candidly admitted he was a coward, but I go back to “incapable of shame”.

Von Mises Jr| 4.20.12 @ 9:33AM

Mr. Lord, your logic makes perfect sense to conservatives, but not to liberals/socialist.
Harry Reid is not a Mormon first; his religion is socialism first and foremost. Mormonism is simply Reid's families tainted past in a socialist's mind.
It is the same conundrum as to why liberal Jews voted overwhelmingly for Obama. They are liberals first, Cultural Jews second that demands adherence to liberalism in leftist circles, and Israel is on their own.

Doctor Detroit| 4.20.12 @ 10:10AM

Other than the incorrect association of the Right with Nazis, why do the Jewish vote Democrat? Always has puzzled me.

The Bruce| 4.20.12 @ 12:25PM

They keep voting Democrat for the same reason abused wives stick with their husbands.

"No, no. It was my fault, noy his. I deserved it."

Pelleas| 4.20.12 @ 1:58PM

The Jewish vote has been traditionally and historically--but NOT ALWAYS- aligned with the Democratic Party because it was the Party of Compassion and progressive programs, which fits rather well into the the Jewish world-view that one's responsibility in life is to act in a way that betters EVERYBODY'S LOT IN LIFE

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 3:01PM

It is the non-Jew Jew history that should be understood, Paul Johnson explains it well in his History of the Jews. Karl Marx was a Jew for example and hated them with a fury. Many of Lenin's closest comrades were of Jewish heritage and wanted to create a new man to destroy their Jewishness. Let us not forget the fact that many Jews were violently opposed to the creation of Israel, particularly those in safe environments like New York. Many of the hardcore Jews also were very against the Jewish state for their own religious views carried down over the generations.

idalily| 4.20.12 @ 3:02PM

The argument conservatives of all religious stripes need to make is that you can't give Paul (or anyone else) a better life by stealing from Peter.

Occam's Tool| 4.20.12 @ 3:05PM

Because Jews tend to buy schmaltz and not look too carefully at it, and because Lindbergh was an antisemite and FDR was his enemy---not realizing that FDR was ALSO an antisemitic asshole, as was Eleanor (and Bess Truman, for that matter).

I, on the other hand, have always voted Conservative, and that usually means Republican.

RCV| 4.20.12 @ 3:44PM

... proving that even the best of people also buy junk and don't look very carefully at it!

Pelleas| 4.20.12 @ 3:50PM

While FDR and Eleanor certainly exhibited the prevelant garden-party variety anti-semitism that most non-Jews of their era did... it wasn't as vicious--at least in public..as many Republican members of Congress , at the same time, was it?

remember Tom Lehrer's line in the song "National Brotherhood Week": --"..and EVERYBODY hates the Jews..."?

LOL!

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 4:14PM

FDR helped to condemn many thousands of Jews to their death by refusing to increase the amount of immigrants coming from Europe before America entered the war leaving many Jews with nowhere to go but the death chambers. That is a sad fact of history. Sure there were Republicans who would have opposed it as well but everyone knows FDR held the bully pulpit and could have done it if he wanted but did not want to risk political capital to save Jewish lives.

Pelleas| 4.20.12 @ 6:06PM

While I can not defend much of FDR's personal lack of involvement in pushing for higher Quota numbers for the doomed European Jewish community, it would have had to have been done ONLY by Presidential Executive Order, as the Congress of that time was so hysterically anti- immigration,( and--anti-semitic, to boot) and would NEVER vote such provisions in, willingly, on their own.

And-- if FDR HAD , in FACT, ordered such .. I can only imagine the hue and cry among some bashers , here, -- that a "Democrat" President had used his muscle to force against the will of "elected representives"..no?

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 11:14PM

FDR had significant Democrat majorities so I guess it would have been his own party that would be the problem. Too busy putting the Japs in internment camps then to worry about Jews being slaughtered apparently.

Bob K.| 4.20.12 @ 11:31AM

You are correct. Unfortunately Mr. Lord is not writing to change their minds. O'Donnell and his cohorts have chosen their ideas and he is telling us what they plan to do with them and how to respond. But he doesn't use all the ammunition available to him.

And, alas, it seems more and more that Mr. Lord can't write an article that is less than 5 pages long. And despite that, in all his verbiage, he misses the fact that Mr. O'Donnell has described himself as a "European Socialist."

Not only that, he doesn't mention that O'Donnell also plays the part of a lawyer in the HBO series "The Big Love" which is about a polygamous family in Utah.

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 12:45PM

You are absolutely right about Harry Reid. He actually slandered a former Prophet named Ezra Taft Benson because he was a conservative who served under Eisenhower. This piece of scum said what members of the Church considered to be God's spokesman to have lead members astray because he was anti-New Deal and detested communists in his political life. He is no better than that fat bastard Ted Kennedy and will go to the same place after his life is done.

Doctor Right| 4.20.12 @ 1:17PM

"God's spokesman?"

That's Christ.

Not "the Prophet."
Not the Pope.

ONLY Christ.

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 1:50PM

Yeah, God has never called Prophets just some crazy Mormon idea. Things were just great in the Dark Ages with no true Prophet but the Pope claiming his authority and burning anyone at the stake who dared disagree but you had a Bible in Latin if you could manage to get a copy and read in Latin. I don't care what you think but the point is about Harry Reid willing to slander his own religious leaders if they go against his leftist politics.

Vern Crisler| 4.20.12 @ 4:15PM

Todd, Doc Right is not Catholic.....

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 6:10PM

Not the point I was making really, just that God has called Prophets to be his mouthpiece throughout history whatever Doctor Right says. He can dispute Mormons having a Prophet all he wants but he is wrong about history. There is a reason it was called the Dark Ages because there was an apostasy after Christ's apostles were all killed off.

Vern Crisler | 4.21.12 @ 1:40AM

That view of church history is known as "landmarkism" -- the idea that the real church disappeared for nearly two thousand years, only to be discovered by [insert latest whack-job religion].

The first six ecumenical councils did great service in defining Christian orthodoxy, and there is much good in St. Augustine, St. Thomas, and other fathers. Church history was not as dark, corrupt, and ignorant as landmarkists would have us believe, even though it has often fallen into great error.

RCV| 4.20.12 @ 5:33PM

There was much to criticize about Ezra Taft benson's politics, Todd, including his shameless promotion of the John Birch Society. He may have been a fine church leader, but anyone who promoted that piece of trash, "None Dare Call it Treason" deserved calling out.

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 6:29PM

You probably believe communism was never a real threat and that our government was never infiltrated by communist agents in the FDR and Truman administrations. McCarthy was right about many of them though he was also wrong about some others but that doesn't mean that it was all bogus as liberals like to think. The truth is many on the intellectual left (including a number of prominent American citizens) back in those days were supporters of hard line communism and expected the Soviets to triumph over American capitalism. If you want a list of these still praised intellectuals and their traitorous statements, I would be happy to do so.

RCV| 4.21.12 @ 1:45PM

There is a big difference between recognizing that communism was a real and insidious threat, and calling Dwight Eisenhower a "conscious agent of the Soviet conspiracy" as the Birchers did. That form of slanderous paranoia, exemplified by Robert Welch and Joe McCarthy, was the best gift the communists could ever have. It gave rational anti communism a bad name.

Todd S| 4.21.12 @ 3:47PM

Benson served under Eisenhower so it would be ridiculous to think he supported that claim. And I will stand by my remark McCarthy was right more than he was wrong. You still have people on the left denying that Hess and the Rosenburgs were Soviet spies against all evidence.

RCV| 4.21.12 @ 4:50PM

And you still have people on the right denying that the President was born in Hawaii. Delusion it's all. The cases against Hiss and Rosenberg are unrefutable. But McCarthy, Cohn et al. were despicable in the randomness of their personal attacks and their inability to differentiate between communist spies and loyal American liberals. Whether Benson believed the Eisenhower calumny or not does not excuse his pimping for the Birchers and their insanity.

Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 4.21.12 @ 8:20PM

I don't still, being on the left, deny how despicable I am, to state 'I abhor the sanctimonious conservatism of the tea party, an ideology wholly lacking in intelligence or a shred of real Christian love and compassion, that every policy they espouse is dangerous and damaging and detrimental to our country and it's future, and that the short-lived ideology of tea party conservatism will be thoroughly discredited', on, wait a minute, never mind, I do still, being on the left, deny how despicable I am, having stated this specific personal attack, and, in fact, 'I stand by every word', when specifically challenged on it, still, in denial, matters.

RCV| 4.22.12 @ 3:41PM

You forgot to mention the 50 million, Skip.

Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 4.22.12 @ 4:33PM

I don't bother with the 5 million I forgot, at least, belonging to a party that cares about human beings, at least, AFTER they're born, because whether it is 50 or 55 million, what is 5 million when, AFTER all, they are not born, at least, are they, so it is pointless caring about human beings AFTER they're not born, belonging to a party that is compassionate compared to the party of the heartless tea partiers who are to be abhorred, at least, AFTER all, not to mention not mentioning to forget my devout churchgoing Christianity having studied the Bible all life long, in addition to the Constitution, and every word of Jefferson who wrote all are created equal and endowed by their Creator with life, for your snide disagreeable little information, not to mention not mentioning the state of penises of those, at least, until AFTER theyre born, matterzzzz.

RCV| 4.22.12 @ 4:48PM

You are a real nutcase, Skip!

RCV| 4.22.12 @ 5:11PM

"Under the law of nature, all men are born free.". Thomas Jefferson 1770.

Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 4.22.12 @ 6:54PM

I don't bother, nor forget, nor apologize, nor disavow, nor criticize, nor deny, nor even abhor,

how the founding fathers sacrificed their lives, their fortunes, their sacred honors, and their hardons,

by signing the Declaration Of Independence, using Jefferson's words, including those that are the most noted and quoted:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are born free, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights AFTER they're born free, that among these are born free as the wind blows, born free as the grass grows and the pursuit of being born free to follow their heart",

and not some other variation of Jefferson's words, instead of these particular words actually used, that the founding fathers signed their names to,

signifying the sacrifice of their lives, their fortunes, their sacred honors, and their hardons, matters.

RCV| 4.23.12 @ 12:40PM

Man up, Skip.

Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 4.23.12 @ 5:21PM

I don't bother, yet again,
to hide from readers my caressing fondness, yet again,
for my meager thought and insistent feeling that reveals, yet again,
my fiercely resentful passion that reveals, yet again,
my crazed projection that reveals, yet again,
my ignorant dogged stupidity that reveals, yet again,
my odd fascination that drives me, yet again,
to repeat myself, yet again,
with the ad hominem slur 'hardon', yet again,
only this time my caressing fondness, yet again,
for my meager thought and insistent feeling that reveals, yet again,
my fiercely resentful passion that reveals, yet again,
my crazed projection that reveals, yet again,
my ignorant dogged stupidity that reveals, yet again,
my odd fascination that drives me, yet again,
this time to repeat myself, yet again,
with the ad hominem slur in the form of 'man up', yet again,
oddly and fiercely with dogged stupidity, yet again,
as AFTER all a 'hardon' is a 'man up' so to speak,
when thought meagerly and felt insistently, yet again,
with fondness caressingly, yet again,
reminiscent of a dog returning to his vomit, yet again,
endlessly, yet again,
or endlezzy, yet again,
so to speak, yet again,
or zo to zpeak, yet again,
matters,
or matterz.

RCV| 4.23.12 @ 5:24PM

So Krazy It's Pathetic.....

Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 4.23.12 @ 6:50PM

I don't bother with being mocked and ridiculed with my very own words,
yet again,
revealing I am a sanctimonious and hypocritical idiot,
yet again,
in addition to revealing I am the epitome of every definition of a liberal provided by the magnificent John II,
yet again,
when I rebut abhorrible tea party conservatives who would uncompassionately support innocent and defenseless unborn Americans,
yet again,
abhorrible tea party conservatives who fail to recognize the fruits of my lifelong constitutional and biblical scholarship and devout Christianity shining through with a variety of intelligent and honest rebuttals,
yet again,
that any reader no matter their political ideology can easily see are anything but lame,
yet again,
not only including the letter z in a variety of presentations,
yet again,
and a variety of descriptions of erect penises,
yet again,
but of a repertoire of rebuttals that includes this one to really show readers,
yet again,
especially tea party conservatives,
yet again,
for their snide disagreeable little information,
yet again,
matters.

Bob S| 4.20.12 @ 9:34AM

Logical contradictions don't exist for Democrats if they're about Democrats.

Anthony| 4.20.12 @ 9:49AM

Gee, I thought Frank Rich was writing for the Fire Island Gazette now.
Anyway, do you actually think that O'Donnell and Rich give a flying you know what, that Reid is also a Mormon?
Their hypocrisy has no limits, nor do their readers care, the ends justify the means.
Seek and Destroy, it's the Democrat's motto!!!

Anthony| 4.20.12 @ 4:54PM

P.S. Oh Frankie boy, the big dog can't bark, Obozo ate him!!
Has the Fire Island Gazette endorsed its favorite son yet?

Art Mooney| 4.20.12 @ 9:49AM

So this is where we are:
1) Defending Mormonism
2) Defending Romneycare (Ann Coulter)
3) Defending another GHWBush establishmentarian that rigged a primary in spite of Republican voters.

This is where we are at as a conservative movement!

Mike Hawk| 4.20.12 @ 10:08AM

So vote for Obama then and quit bitching.

Gary B| 4.20.12 @ 10:45AM

Art,

I sympathize, but getting rid of Obama overshadows EVERYTHING. The establishment vs. conservatives has to wait for a few months.

I believe RINOs will soon be on the defensive as they, like liberals, have proven themselves to be deceitful, self-serving monsters.

cuban pete| 4.20.12 @ 11:37AM

"getting rid of Obama overshadows EVERYTHING...."
Back to teaching constititional law at U of C.
End of story.
Have a great weekend.

Occam's Tool| 4.20.12 @ 3:06PM

I like Romney hitting at Obama. I think he needs to get even meaner. But he seems more adept than McCain. I think the boy's gonna win and ObamaCare is going down and I'm getting a tax break.

Vern Crisler| 4.20.12 @ 11:39AM

Unfortunately, yes.

The Bruce| 4.20.12 @ 12:28PM

Art,

Point taken, but what part of "get rid of Obama" don't you understand?

Sure, Romney's a bit like a turd in the punch-bole, but compared to the other turds I see, this one is considerably shinier.

Richard Baker| 4.20.12 @ 2:37PM

Art:
Not defending Mormons but the idea of religious freedom in the US. That bothers you? I'm a Catholic and how a man worships God is HIS business, not yours or mine.

Anthony| 4.20.12 @ 4:16PM

You know Art, as much as I despise the R establishment, there were over 20 primaries, both Santorum and Gingrich won primaries, hence,the people spoke, certainly not to my liking, but they spoke.
It ain't all the esablishment's fault, and certainly not the fault of us conservatives.
So you and your pals need to stop the "so here is where conservativism is" bullcrap.
Either you accept Romney or allow the Muslim Marxist anther term to destroy America.
END OF STORY!!!

Purp| 4.20.12 @ 9:51AM

"To convince voters that GOP nominee-to-be Romney is a closet racist because somewhere back in the history of his religious faith -- "1863!" "1978!" -- racism against blacks was church doctrine." - well, the last sentence is fact, because racism was church doctrine.
But the very fact you even picked this out to discuss tells us more about how YOU think, since you obviously are worried about the issue. If you didn't have a guilty conscience voting for a Mormon, a cult, with magic underpants, widely considered non-Christian by Christians, why then you wouldn't try to make it an issue - now would you?
You also gloss over the fact that a Senator serves a State, of which Nevada has a large contingent of Mormons. Very different for President, since Mormonism is a very small minority in the country, but the Mormon religion's radical beliefs in a President are much more worrisome than say a Catholic was in 1960. People then worried about the influence of the Pope on JFK - wonder what influence the Mormon Church Grand High Elector has on Mitt Romney? Now, that's scary. Mormons do what their told, Catholics and other Christians are faithful, but have their own minds... Romney? Mormon? Cult follower? Not so much...

boogalie| 4.20.12 @ 10:08AM

"Mormons do what their (your choice, should have been they're told...). I would say that classifies you as making a generalization. Truly at the heart of your entire point, am sure you aware that generalizing a basis for racism huh? Wake up man! Socialist aggitators do what they read, I think POTUS has successfully avoided critical thinking. Just cast your vote in November, and get off the high horse in a way your (?) comfortable. Semper Fi.

Mike Hawk| 4.20.12 @ 10:10AM

Another Liberal duplicitous bigot speaks. Give her a Bronx cheer BBaarrraCCKKK!!

Purp| 4.20.12 @ 10:36AM

Oh, now the right wing loves Mormonism ... hahahaha what a bunch of hypocrites.

Vern Crisler| 4.20.12 @ 11:44AM

Yes, Purp, unfortunately, Republicans have whored away their standards this election season, having bought into the where-else-are-you-going-to-go argument that is used every time a moderate wins the Republican nomination.

Gary B| 4.20.12 @ 12:13PM

Vern,

You are, of course, right. But, it's getting tougher for them to lie to conservatives then walk away. With any luck, the Tea Party will gain momentum and scare the hell outta' them. The silent majority is silent between elections then it roars, as in 2010. We will soon see.

Doctor Right| 4.20.12 @ 1:18PM

We like Mormonism, and the Democrats like terrorism.

I'll take the Mormons.

Occam's Tool| 4.20.12 @ 3:07PM

Dr. R: have a kick ass weekend, sir.

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 4:05PM

Uh Oh !

" Doctor Right| 4.18.12 @ 3:59PM
Interesting.

And where are those "Golden Plates" today?

Gone to heaven? That's convenient!

And where is ANY archeological evidence in support of the Lamanites or the Nephites in the Americas?

Was it ALL destroyed? ALL of it? Every last building, book, urn, plate, or cup? ALL of it?!?!?

That's convenient!

And where's the genetic evidence linking the indigenous peoples of the Americas to the 12 tribes of Israel??

And what about the Mormon Church's modern-day disavowal of plural marriage (polygamy)? How do they get away with calling it wrong today, when they sanctioned it with scripture in the 1800's???

Hmmmmm????

In fact polygamy was arguably the most sacred credo of Joseph Smith’s church—a tenet important enough to be canonized for the ages in The Doctrine and Covenants, one of Mormonism’s primary scriptural texts. The revered prophet taught that a man needed at least three wives to attain the “fulness of exaltation” in the afterlife. He warned that God had explicitly commanded, “all those who have this law revealed unto them must obey the same… and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye damned; for no one can reject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory."

Sorry, but Mormonism is a SHAM."

Michael| 4.20.12 @ 4:56PM

Sphincter,
What is your point?
You post idiocy all day long.
Do you have a job?
How old are you?
Are you voting for Obama or Romney?

Clint| 4.21.12 @ 10:55AM

Asshole
Dr.Reich's A Liar
It Works On You Israel Firster Asshole.
Yes.
Old Enough To Know You're An Israel Firster Asshole.
Watch & Learn,Israel Firster Asshole.

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 5:20PM

What say you CINO BRANDER MEDIA MATTERS BOY?????:
'.... Breitbart.com Left-Wing Nuns Signed, Circulated Petitions for Walker Recall by Joel B. Pollak 12 hours ago As the Catholic Church takes action to counter the left-wing drift of American nuns, Breitbart.com has learned that hundreds of nuns are involved in the left's campaign to recall Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R)--in favor of pro-choice Democratic challengers.The nuns who have circulated and signed petitions include sisters from convents and other Catholic institutions across the state. Over 100 signatures, for example, all of female voters, as verified through iverifytherecall.com, list the same address as a Dominican institution in Sinsinawa, WI, in the southwestern portion of the state. Representatives of that organization could not be reached for comment. One Catholic official at a school with a large number of signatories stressed that Catholic organizations advocate for the poor and downtrodden, but do not take political positions, and that what their individual members do is up to them alone. Though many Catholic voters support Walker, and roughly 40% of Wisconsin Republican primary voters are Catholic, there is some Catholic opposition to Walker's collective bargaining reforms among those partial to the "social justice" movement within the Catholic Church. Democrats are hoping to tap into that opposition.Walker's most likely Democratic challenger, former congressman and former Milwaukee mayor Tom Barrett, is a practicing Catholic but has been criticized for opposing the ban on federal funding for abortion. Other Democratic candidates--Kathleen Falk, Doug LaFollette, and Kathleen Vinehout--appear to be pro-choice.
The Vatican's recent effort to discipline the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR), the largest organization of American nuns, stresses support for the nuns' "social justice" efforts but concludes that the group is not supportive enough of Catholic teachings on abortion and sexuality.Many nuns who participate in the Leadership Conference supported Obamacare in 2010, according to the New York Times, in opposition to many American bishops who opposed the legislation. The law has recently been used by the Obama administration to force Catholic institutions to provide their employees with insurance coverage for abortifacients and contraceptives, contrary to Church teachings--and to Obama's promises.Thus far, social issues have not played as large a role in the Wisconsin recall as have questions about union power in state government, but the support of some Catholic nuns for gubernatorial challengers whose policies directly contradict Church teachings has already begun to provoke debate and controversy......'

Clint| 4.21.12 @ 11:00AM

Actually, Politico Says:
" President Obama’s support among Jewish voters remains high according to a new survey – despite heavy criticism of his policy towards the current Israeli government.

A new poll of American Jews, conducted by Public Religion Research Institute, finds that 62 percent of Jewish voters prefer Obama over a generic Republican. "

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 3:31PM

No fool, the right-wing loves CAPITALISM, NORMALCY, TYPICAL AND CHRISTIAN-ORIENTED; NOT SOCIALISM, ABNORMALCY, NON-TYPICAL, AND BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY!!!!!!!!!!

Clint| 4.21.12 @ 11:04AM

Aaaand Mr. Fartpants,
You're Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 4:46PM

Hadn't read Michael Reagan's latest yet have you moron [not surprising since you can't READ]?????????????????

Clint| 4.21.12 @ 5:49PM

I Read This From Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."

Anthony| 4.20.12 @ 4:19PM

We like Mormons over dog eating Muslims.
We like Mormons over race-baiting Black Liberation Theology.
We like Mormons so we can kick lefty ass after November.

Von Mises Jr| 4.20.12 @ 10:20AM

Perpetrator, you never answered my economic riddle:
If Marx taught that there are "bourgeoisie" and "proletariat" economics, then why are you back. Go talk "victim" economics with your peeps. You are at the wrong site.
Either you must admit Marx was a fool, or you are trying to explain "conch" logic to a dolphin. Perhaps you don't have any "conch"ciousness?

Who is the fool: Marx or you???

Purp| 4.20.12 @ 10:46AM

Who gives a rat's a** what Marx said about anything? Seems you care a whole lot for some closeted reason I guess. In any case, he's dead, I'm alive, come to your own conclusions.

Doctor Right| 4.20.12 @ 1:20PM

You do.

Your Party (the Democrats) is steeped in Marxism. In fact, it is their guiding principle.

You're not too bright, so you may not have noticed.

But all of Obama's initiatives are straight out of Das Kapital.

If you support the Democrats, then you support Marxism.

Period.

Purp| 4.20.12 @ 3:37PM

Actually, no, Democrats are not Socialists, and neither are liberals and progressives, that is why Bernie Sanders is an Independent. Socialists have no where else to go but Democratic party. Just like Libertarians have no where but Republican party to go to - like Ron Paul. They really don't fit, but closer than the other party.
The talking point that Democrats are Marxists is just as wrong as saying Republicans are Fascists or Anarchists.

Von Mises Jr| 4.20.12 @ 6:09PM

Perp is back from his OWS training planning to infiltrate the TEA Party meetings.
I wondered where "boy wonder" was until I got many emails about how they want to create incidents with thinking people.
So sad. But this is what Perp does at TAS.

Purp| 4.21.12 @ 2:11AM

well, no, but now that you mentioned it - the 99% are coming, which includes you, even if you don't know it.

Von Mises Jr| 4.21.12 @ 9:03AM

The Nazi's shot the "Useful Idiots" first. That means you. At least I won't meet my maker and have to explain for being part of the problem, troll.

Purp| 4.21.12 @ 12:57PM

Do you really get a thrill from calling people names? Everything and anything you say is diminished by such a childish immature maneuver.
In any case are you saying the right wing intends on shooting people they don't agree with? And you call me a troll?

Von Mises Jr| 4.21.12 @ 3:12PM

I would call you something that rhymes with troll, but I am too much a gentleman, troll.

Pelleas| 4.22.12 @ 4:02PM

"I would call you something that rhymes with troll, but I am too much a gentleman, troll."

What would that possibly be, von Mice?

.."Droll"..?....""mole"?...""pole"...?

ROTFLMAO... I'M NOT EVEN SURE YOU KNOW THE MEANING OF "RHYME"

From the Desk of Media Matters| 4.21.12 @ 1:42PM

Polly Putz Penelope Pink Pantywaste Jaquelina Moscow Pelosi,

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots, currently heatedly arguing whether it is surprising or it is not surprising that you are such a stupid lying idiot you don't even know what a protestant is, know that liberals and progressives are one and the same.

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots know when liberals are too embarrassed and discredited to be referred to as liberals they then refer to themselves as progressives, until they are too embarrassed and discredited to want to be referred to as progressives so they then refer to themselves as liberals again, until they are too embarrassed and discredited to want to be referred to as liberals again so they then refer to themselves as progressives again, until, well - everyone gets the point except you Jaquelina Moscow Barney Fecal and a few others as stupid a liar as you.

Stop embarrassing and discrediting liberals and progressives and liberal progressives and progressive liberals who are stupid lying tyrant marxist socialist idiots no matter what they call themselves.

- MM staff

W| 4.20.12 @ 3:12PM

Purp
You conclusions about redistribution of income and the government owning the money is marxism. Income is when you have a job and work, save you the time of looking up the definition.

Purp| 4.21.12 @ 2:13AM

point to where I ever said I promote redistribution of income or the government owning the money.... I just don't rail against or mind the government taxing to pay for the society needs that are necessary - you do. And it isn't like you pay more of that tax than I do. Unless you are in the 1% that is. That is all.

Von Mises Jr| 4.20.12 @ 3:15PM

Can't answer it, huh troll.
Try this one you economic neophite:
Demand-side (Keynesian) economics teaches that too much demand causes inflation and too little demand causes unemployment and slow GDP. How did Carter manage stagflation? How do we have 10.9% real U3 unemployment and 8% real inflation at the same time?
Was Keynes a fool, or are you a fool? How did your boys do the theoretically impossible, troll?

Purp| 4.20.12 @ 3:49PM

Ayn Rand has all the answers ... go ask her. I thought you would know more than this?

Von Mises Jr| 4.20.12 @ 6:10PM

Ayn Rand "Objectivism" talks about volition and cognition. Way over your head, sonny.

Purp| 4.21.12 @ 2:09AM

Again, you miss the meaning .. are you that dense? You think you are sounding intelligent - you are not.

Von Mises Jr| 4.21.12 @ 9:05AM

You brought up Ayn Rand, troll. I read the book. What was your take on "Objectivism?"
Just joking. You could not have read the book and continue to be so ignorant.

Purp| 4.21.12 @ 1:04PM

You read the books and drank the Kool-Aid - it's a common phenomenon. They don't deal strictly in facts, but they write what you tend to believe anyway and reinforces the beliefs you have - Rush Loudmouth does the same thing. A kernel of truth is used and magnified, adding innuendo and downright mistruths to make their point. And, because you want to believe it, you swallow it hook, line and sinker.
The America they promote never existed anymore than Utopia did or will. But believe what you will, beliefs are shattered by truth and I feel sorry for those individuals, who hold beliefs that you have been told is truth, individuals, who when they wake up and feel betrayed, lied to and manipulated have a moral crisis.

Von Mises Jr| 4.21.12 @ 3:14PM

Like always troll, you never answer the question. What is your criticism of Rand's Objectivism? Or do you know what it is?

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 3:34PM

True/I am/I have.....and that is that ya boy is a socialist, a political opportunist-follower of black liberation theology and that he will be defeated in November!!!!!!!!!

Peppermint Tea| 4.20.12 @ 1:07PM

Please Purp, Mormons don't make fun of your choice in undergarments.

And you don't have to take someone else's word for it--go to http://mormon.org/free-book-of-mormon/
and get your own copy.

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 1:55PM

More Mormons than Muslims and Jews combined in the US, that is your tiny minority Burp. Obama went to a Church which was always racist and believes that white people are the devil according to Rev Wright. Any white people in his Church? The Mormon Church Grand High Elector? You don't know what the hell you are talking about you ignorant piece of crap

Purp| 4.20.12 @ 4:03PM

"In the United States the LDS Church is the 4th largest individual denomination with over 5.5 million members, a population about equal to the number of Muslims." "Worldwide, there are over 13 million Mormons, nearly the same as the number of Jews." http://www.allaboutmormons.com.....ormons.php
Guess you are wrong, huh, Sunshine? And you call me ignorant? 30 seconds to get the facts ... just proves how little you care about facts. Maybe their leader is "Der Fuehrer", who cares?

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 4:25PM

Hey dummy, you are clearly exaggerating the number of Muslims in the US.
http://www.pewforum.org/The-Fu.....ation.aspx

2010 it estimates there are 5.2 million Muslims in North and South America. The estimates of Muslims in the US not from Muslim propaganda is between 2-3 million unless you believe every single one in North and South America lives in the US. Your chart you use is from 2006 btw, more than 6 million currently in the US and close to 15 million worldwide now. Once again you are proven to be the ignorant troll you are.

Purp| 4.21.12 @ 2:16AM

how can a boy be a troll? riddle me that?
I didn't exaggerate a thing - clearly Mormons in the US do not outnumber Jews and Muslims - that is all. And that is irrefutable, today, 2010 or 2006 - and you call me ignorant? fool.

Todd S| 4.21.12 @ 10:28AM

You showed no proof of nothing. It is close to being equal and there are certainly far more Mormons than Muslims in the US. And explain to me what exactly is the The Mormon Church Grand High Elector? Hahaha, that is some ridiculous garbage

Purp| 4.21.12 @ 1:07PM

You prefer Grand High Wizard? - I was being facetious, which apparently escaped your laser -focused enormous intelligence.
And there are not more Mormons than Jews and Muslims combined in the U.S. You are an idiot to think so.
Show proof of your numbers - I did.

Todd S| 4.21.12 @ 1:35PM

Actually I will say I was wrong concerning Jewish numbers though that is more an ethnic group instead of those that consider themselves Jewish by religion. Jewish numbers were in the 6-7 million range in 2011 which is roughly equal to LDS members. Muslims are between 2-3 million as I stated as shown here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.....ted_States

So I was wrong about Jewish people but you were more wrong about Muslims. Though you can make the case that the amount of Jewish people by religious orientation is significantly lower, probably about half that number. I have a friend who is half-Jewish by ethnicity but is LDS, plenty of cases like that.

idalily| 4.20.12 @ 3:12PM

Purp, utter nonsense. Mormonism is no worse or better than any other mainstream religious faith, including Catholicism. Catholics have, until the VERY recent past, had a widespread bigotry toward Jews for "killing Christ." So we shouldn't elect a Catholic? I could provide many more examples for ALL religions, and for atheists, too, for that matter. All of that is irrelevant to today. What is relevant, what is ALWAYS relevant, is judging an individual by his own actions, his own decisions, his own moral behavior. And so far, I see nothing in Romney that runs counter to being a good POTUS from a moral standpoint.

And the "representing your constituents" is fine and good, up to the point of violating one's conscience. That line has to be drawn by each individual. JFK made that argument many years ago.

The question is: does Romney's Mormon religion profess a hatred for the principles of America and its Constitution NOW, or not? My problem with Obama in Reverend Wright's church was the violent, anti-American rhetoric that is inappropriate to an American president. Romney's Mormonism isn't anti-Americanism. Quite the opposite, in fact. I know many Mormons and they are among the most patriotic, hardworking, moral people I know. I think their religion is a bit whacky, but why should they care what I think?

Purp| 4.20.12 @ 4:19PM

I agree - there should be NO Religious litmus test for office. There isn't among liberals or progressives - try to convince the Evangelicals about that. Oh, and a few Bishops too, apparently, who have decided to become political.
As JFK said there should be a complete separation of Church and State.

boogalie| 4.20.12 @ 10:00AM

Great piece. The hypocrisy of folks is ubelieveable. For LO, it seems his core belief's are amended by fear. I just don't know what to say about him: I think much of liberal thinking goes that road. No core values. Those core values that that they do have are subject to change based on an array of outside circumstances. What a shallow nutcase, as is Reid. How, how in the heck did he become Senate Majority Leader...good grief? The Democratic Party has indeed turned into the left wing, radical junk oranization. Think of it: Ellison, Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, Wrangle, Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, good grief...don't want to bore you but do you see this conga line of nut jobs? No wonder the country is a mess. Semper Fi.

Purp| 4.20.12 @ 10:45AM

Kettle calling the Pot black ...

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 3:36PM

No instead it's the TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH!!!!!

Purp| 4.21.12 @ 1:07PM

Wow that was quite a refutation ... dumb.

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 4:48PM

Place a comma [,] after 'Wow' you DUMBARS!!!!!!

emilio lizardo, PhD| 4.20.12 @ 10:04AM

does anyone else find these multipage screeds and jeremiads tedious as hell? Good topics but completely unreadable? Does this guy get paid by the syllable? Jeezis.

Bob K.| 4.20.12 @ 11:41AM

I can't help but agree with you. He needs to do some serious re-writing. He can't seem to write anything anymore that is shorter than 5 pages long. This article was on a good subject. Some ammunition that could have been used was missed. O'Donnell has described himself as a European socialist and he is playing a Lawyer in the HBO Series "The Big Love" which is about a polygamous family.

albert constantine jr.| 4.20.12 @ 12:03PM

It appears to be the tedious use of line breaks for one or few word sentences, phrases and paragraphs that seem to cause the average Jeffrey Lord piece to be five digital pages. with content or word count that other authors squeeze into two.

John Worfin| 4.20.12 @ 1:20PM

No, I actually enjoy them.

Stammon| 4.20.12 @ 10:44AM

Let's all send O'Donnell a strudel.

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 12:34PM

Made from dog?

Pelleas| 4.20.12 @ 12:40PM

Still waiting for your retraction concerning the Roosevevlt cousin relationship, KJ--remember--you said..."IT IS A FACT they are first cousins..." and i proved they weren't......

MAN up....( isn't that the ridiculous expression u right wingers use?)

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 12:43PM

Obviously, you didn't read my reply yesterday.

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 12:47PM

By the way, am I correct that you're of Jewish descent?

Pelleas| 4.20.12 @ 1:33PM

I am Jewish...so?

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 1:47PM

In my unending quest for light, comedic relief during my otherwise stressful day, I like to hear the opinions of leftist Jewish folks on the following:
Bibi Netanyahu and how he's doing as PM,
Obamarx's relationship with same Mr. Netanyahu,
Obamarx's views of the American/Israeli relationship,
Jewish settlements on the West Bank, and, lastly,
Creation of a Palestinian state.
Love to hear what you have to say.

Pelleas| 4.20.12 @ 2:13PM

I personally find Netanyahu an odious Right wing political hack-- and can not wait for the the Israeli people to call for a vote of "no confidience" in the current regime--which seems to be coming, sooner, rather then later...

I think it is long overdue for the United States to "cool" it's lock-step relations with a regime that does everything in its power to prevent a peaceful resolution to the catastrophe brewing among the Palestinian people

Jewish settlements MUST be removed from the West Bank---IMMEDIATELY

There should be a creation of a Palestinian State, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME I totally support the on-going existence of a Jewish State of Israel to survive and prosper.. in safety, in borders established pre 1967... with safety boundaries, if necessary maintained by The United Nations

As a dual American and Israeli citizen..and a veteran of the Israeli Army, that is my view

nu?

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 2:28PM

For openers, if the pre-1967 borders weren't acceptable to the muslims then, why would they be now? What objective look at history would indicate that Israel should/would rely on the U. n. for protection?

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 2:29PM

Hey, Occam. Are you reading this? You know ol' Jack's gonna jump in here.

Pelleas| 4.20.12 @ 2:38PM

I'm not saying that a "magic wand" is gonna be swirled over the region, and --"POOF" EVERYONE will wake up tomorrow and be best buddies...

A lot of HARD WORK AND NEGOTIATIONS needs to occur...but it will not even start under the boot of Bibi and his dinosaur Right-wing coalitions .

I don't have the actual solutions in hand-- but i am not a diplomat, or a statesman--I can only hope that some honest , dedicated ones appear on the scene , ASAP.. to start working it out...

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 2:53PM

So, then. Israel should not launch a pre-emptive strike against Iran's nuclear facilities, allow them to acquire a nuclear bomb and hope the Ayotallah and Achmadinajab are not sincere when they say they're going to obliterate Israel. Do I have that right?

Pelleas| 4.20.12 @ 3:10PM

Well.. we are starting to go way over the topic of this particular thread, aren't we?

BUT..

Yes...I THINK a pre-emptive strike against Iran would be a catastrophe --for the entire planet-- and would most certainly trigger and unleash the begining of the END, fer all of us..

while I oppose any Nation possessing /stock-piling/ Nuclear weapons..I also find it difficult to understand how those who have them can tell other Nations that THEY can not

I am not naive enough to believe that the current regime in Teheran is acting in any sort of good faith-but t he alternative of pre-emptively attacking them presents such a nightmarish scenario , that I shudder to think of it-- so, I guess I HAVE TO HOPE that they(the Iranian government) are "smart" enough not to do anything they( and all mankind) will regret

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 3:20PM

Still into that "Hope" thing, huh?

Pelleas| 4.20.12 @ 3:24PM

..as Pandora learned..and "taught" us , thousands of years ago... without HOPE...we are all ..DOOMED..NO?

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 3:31PM

Pandora pre-dated Mohammed and this awful cult he developed so her insights are not germaine to this situation.

Occam's Tool| 4.20.12 @ 3:18PM

Pelleas, you may have served in the IDF, but I was the Alabama Chain Gang Psychiatrist. What I have FORGOTTEN about psychopaths and their evaluation is more than you will ever learn, nu?

I think my background is more useful than yours. The problem with your opinions is that if you are wrong, my family gets to die. If I am wrong, your family gets to live. Sorry, sir, but your vision is foolish and fails to note actual facts. Name a Palestinian concession made to Israel. I'll wait.

Occam's Tool| 4.20.12 @ 3:16PM

Pelleas: you may have served, but they didn't teach you shit about geography. Out of the West Bank Israel is too narrow. Causes it to go on pre-emptive strike mode when threatened, as in 1967.

If you trust the Palestinians to negotiate anything in good faith you obviously suffered a traumatic brain injury in the service. Safety boundaries supported by the UN are obviously a jokeas the UN is a joke...

Lots of Left Wing Israeli academics served in the Army, as it is compulsory.

Tom Kratman would label you a Tranzi, Pelleas, sorry. And the Colonel has the right of Aliyah, as do I.

It is a damn shame when people like Kennesaw Jack have a more accurate view of the necessities of Jewish survival than a Zahal vet. This is not to knock KJ, who is a very fine man, I am sure. But WHERE'S YOUR SENSE OF SELF-PRESERVATION, Pelleas? DIDN'T YOU LEARN ANYTHING? I DID GETTING ASSAULTED BY A PALI AND HIS TWO DHIMMI THUGS AT TCU.

In short, Pelleas, I strongly suspect that unlike, say, mzk1, your ass is safely in the USA at this time, as is mine.

Pelleas| 4.20.12 @ 3:27PM

well,,,actually...I am in the suburbs of Tel Aviv, at the present... visiting family...

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 3:28PM

Occam, I was wondering where you were. And yes,. I am a very fine man (according to my wife and kids) but thanks anyway. Seriously, I knew if you read this thread you would be able to shed credible light on it, which I, not being Jewish, could not. Thank you and I hope every damned anti-Semitic, Israel-hating bastard out there reads your comment and gets at least a small twinge of guilt.

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 4:32PM

Yeah, those 1967 borders when Israel got attacked are the ticket to a peaceful resolution. Just another Jew who is self deluded about what the Muslims actually want and it is not a peaceful resolution. Give them more land to make it easier to launch rockets at Tel Aviv and send in the suicide bombers because that is what will happen. Pathetic really that you believe the lies and Muslim propaganda so easily. You probably actually thought Yasser Arafat deserved a Nobel Peace Prize.

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 4:46PM

And Obamarx, too!

Occam's Tool| 4.20.12 @ 3:08PM

They were third cousins, I believe.

Occam's Tool| 4.20.12 @ 3:19PM

Third cousins referring to the Roosevelts.

martin j smith| 4.20.12 @ 11:19AM

I think if anyone will elect Romney its is Obama himself. I would encourage him to continue to be the Hugo Chavez wanna bee that he is--the arrogance will defeat him nothing to do with Romney at all. All Romney has to do is say: There he goes again.

cicero| 4.20.12 @ 11:31AM

This is no more than the old slight of hand trick. For the next several months, we will be fed a continuing series of red herrings that are intended to keep everybodies' eye on anything but the fact that this government is spending the country into economic oblivion. The fact that these ploys are silly, false, duplicitous, ludicrous, . . ., means nothing. The Left has always used this tactic. When they have no valid argument, they wave a red flag on the sidelines. The Conservatives have to keep the debate concentrated on the real issue. If they are too stupid to do so, then the issue will be lost.

Chris| 4.20.12 @ 11:41AM

My VOTE will be against the [M]axist [S]atist [M]edia as the D*cksucker's of O-ASS-O in their concerted and ongoing fraud to sell out America.

O-ASS-O is the biggest Union Buster in History, the being the Union of The United States Of America.

Obama is from Head To Toe the "Johnny Holmes" of Constitutional Porn, a/k/a the biggest Pr*ck in Wahington D.C.

The Bruce| 4.20.12 @ 12:34PM

True, but Valerie tells me he gives great prompter.

George F.| 4.20.12 @ 11:51AM

After reading and some of that article and not being able to finish it because of the Dem's total hypocracy I can only say: What else can one expect from the party of hate, lies, bullies and now bigots.

Tammy Terrell| 4.20.12 @ 11:55AM

I would rather have a Mormon as president any day over a closet muslim. You see, muslims are permitted to lie if it furthers their ultimate goal of world domination.

Pelleas| 4.20.12 @ 6:17PM

"You see, muslims are permitted to lie if it furthers their ultimate goal of world domination."
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And that "brilliant" piece of theological "insight" is based on -WHAT-exactly..????

Berneicie| 4.20.12 @ 11:57AM

you possess neither the brains
nor the gonads of a gnat

My apologies to the Gnat Kingdom

Skep41| 4.20.12 @ 12:01PM

This is pathetic. It shows that the Dems have nothing else to talk about. Romney is already pounding the theme that he can ride to the White House...economic revival. As Axelrod said the other day, are we going to choose to stay on the same course or are we going to try a different approach? These Dems are so clueless they think they're doing an amazingly good job without a single mistake. They believe their rave reviews in the lapdog media and they think that we do too. This is going to be a blowout. Not even close.

Gary B| 4.20.12 @ 12:17PM

Obama, et al are running around like chickens trying to create a crisis a week to distract from their economic mess. This Mormon thing is just one of a long list they'll be trotting out. I'm sure we'll see the usual grandmothers in wheelchairs and handicapped children soon.

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 12:20PM

Someone should let O'Donnell know, though it probably wouldn't matter, that the Southern Baptists preached the very same racial nonsense for two centuries and we've overlooked (correctly) that history in assessing present day members (one James Earl Carter comes to mind).
I'm Lutheran and I know our Church views Mormonism as apostasy but, in fairness, I have to say this. I have a few Mormon friends and many Mormon acquaintances. They are, to a man, decent, honorable, hard-working folks. I don't have an issue with their eschewence of alcohol (more for the rest of us) and I really don't care what their granddaddies did. You know, Mohammed screwed Aisha when he was 54 and she was 9 and no one seems to hold that against Obamarx or his daddy. Ask O'Donnell to comment on that. Guarantee he doesn't have the cojoenes to call Mohammed a pedophile and lay that at the feet of modern day Muslims. Know why? Because he knows the Mormon's won't kill his ass. When you attack someone who you know won't fight back, it's called bullying. Typical leftist cowardice.

Gary| 4.20.12 @ 12:22PM

Scum is too nice a word to apply to O'Donnel and Rich. I have argued for years that those who favor gay "marriage" have no standing to oppose or condemn polygamy or any other odd combination of humans.

Richard| 4.20.12 @ 12:26PM

As a Mormon, I will consider Harry Reid a disgrace.

Occam's Tool| 4.20.12 @ 3:20PM

Yes, Richard, but you are probably not.

Tim| 4.20.12 @ 12:39PM

As a practacing Roman Catholic, I considered Tedd Kennedy a total scum bag not worthy to serve us as a Senator.

Some of the points here are well made in that the Mormon religion is actually very young as religions go.

Give it a few more centuries and it will be viewed as main stream

Let's not forget how bad Catholics were treated in the USA 100-200 years ago.

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 1:41PM

It's Ted [with one T], and he and his white-trash family were all way beyond being NOT WORTHY TO SERVE!!!!!!!

Maggie| 4.20.12 @ 12:40PM

Kennesawjack.I agree with you.I moved to Utah,am not Mormon and do not find these folks any different than anywhere else I have lived. Their approach to getting into their heaven is somewhat different than mine but they are very pleasant to live among even if you do run into an occasional Harry Reid. The state is fiscally sound,taxes fair ,people nice and the state is breathtakingly beautiful. Mitt Romney had a house in Park City , he saved the Olympics , he is a Mormon and a success in life. He is not a comic,most Mormons are not,he values family and gives away great gobs of money,but no more to the government to waste than he is required to give.Seems like a smart man to me. Unless God Himself appears and says" OK,you guys are to stupid to do this,I am taking over." I will vote for Mitt.

SpiderMike| 4.20.12 @ 1:01PM

I am a Bible reading Christian but not a Mormon. I have Mormons in the family and boy they do believe in some whoppers, but they are all good, honest, hard working folks. I welcome the Left's attack on Mitt's religion as that would clear the way to get deep into the Black Liberation Theology preached at the church Obama sat in for twenty years. Bring it on!

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 1:07PM

Spidey, hadn't thought of that angle. Good on 'ya!

Brian Richard Allen | 4.20.12 @ 1:11PM

.... I am a Bible reading Christian and have Mormons in my family. And, boy, they do believe in some whoppers, but they are all good, honest, hard working folks ....

Well said. It's True. They do -- and they are.

Brian Richard Allen | 4.20.12 @ 1:06PM

.... O'Donnell feels free to deride Joe Smith's multiple wives but not Herr Muhummud for having had twelve wives.

That we know of.

One of those wives was also his son's wife, suggesting Muhummud was into incest ....

While the fact another of them was but six years of age made clear the dirty old bugger was also a pedophile!

Meanwhile I have to admit to having reservations about Mormonism: Gradma's admonitions to "beware of false prophets" and all of that.

There are, at something of a stretch, vague similarities between "Islam" - "Submission" -- and Mormonism in that both of them invent a god and redefine The Christ to make Him neither devine nor one with God. And essentially not recognizable as the God of Abraham from a either a Jewish of a Christian perspective.

But given the choice of placing the administrative branch of America's governmet in the trust of one who submits to an ideology whose guide book makes Mein Kampf look like the joint-ventue scribblings of Enid Blyton and Baden Powell and that has a 1400 years-long track-record of lock-stepping, predatory, psychopathologically-hesperophobic raping, sexually-mutilating, mass-murdering, shirt-lifting, turd-burgling, pillow-biting, mattress-munching, sister, goat and little-boy-buggering -- and the disciple of a strange crew that promises nothing more sinister than it will slit Mittens' Moderately Massachusetts' bowels, his chest and his throat should he put any duty or loyalty (being president, say?) before the giving of all of his life and all of his talents and everything the Mormon lord has blessed him with and/or with which he may later on bless him, (the presidency, say?) to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the kingdom of God here on the Earth -- and for the establishment of Zion?

Gotta go - in the absence of answered prayers and a Brokered Convention - for Mr Romney.

Even notwithstanding the Mormons' Zion having nothing to do with Jewish Israel but with the Mormon political kingdom. To the creation, that is of the Mormon theocracy Mormons believe will rule the Earth.

Only in My America!

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 2:05PM

Invent a God? Seems to me we believe exactly what is in the Bible that Jesus Christ was the Son of God born of an earthly mother and was physically Resurrected and ascended to his Father in Heaven. So what exactly did we invent? Seems to me the doctrine of the Trinity in the Nicene Creed centuries after his death is the invention. Jesus praying to himself and the Resurrection never happening is the invention.

Rowan91016 | 4.20.12 @ 1:08PM

The answer to "What are they thinking?" is simple. They think the American electorate is a bunch of useful idiots. I only pray they are wrong. There's no telling how many of the facts cited in this excellent article will ever reach the light of day.

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 1:11PM

B.R.A., Easily deserving of a place in the Pantheon of Posts! Great job!

Zbigniew Mazurak | 4.20.12 @ 1:38PM

Regarding Mormons, African Americans, and civil rights: Mitt Romney's father, MI Governor George Romney, had by far the best record on civil rights of any governor, far ahead of any Democrat. The GOP was, and is, the Party of Lincoln, Dirksen, and civil rights advocates. The Dem Party was the party of George Wallace, Lester Maddox, Bull Connor, Richard Russell, and Robert Byrd.

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 1:49PM

Zbig, I think if you go back and check it, Nixon had more black appointees than any President until Obamarx. Wasn't Bobby Byrd a Grand Kleegle or something like that?

Tim| 4.20.12 @ 1:53PM

Well I will say that John Kennedy with (One J)
was at least qualified to serve in that he did get injured while fighting for his country.
He then did pay with his life, so I give him a pass.

Robert Kennedy with (one R) was a true believer in a utopian America and paid the ultimate price for it as well.

That said, the Kennedy Klan Morals are and were
bottom of the Rum and Scotch barrel.

By all accounts Mitt Romney has shown to have good family morals throughout his life.

His politics have been to the left of center at times especially with the failed Romney Care but in a choice between Romney and Obama, Romney gets my vote because I can't vote for a true socialist and will not sit the election out.

Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 3:49PM

I respectfully disagree partially....Jack was Obama-lite and his worthless old man baught his presidency [since his older brother was deceased and unavailable]. PT109 was Barryish ghost-written and intended for political campaign promotional purposes. Robert was likewise worthless and along with his older brother a MM [in addition to his sister-in-law later on]gangbanger thanks to the matchmaking efforts of their brother-in-law Peter. I could go on and on but you get the picture [ie Teddy etc] .....the whole bunch of them are Irish trailer-trash obviously!!!!

Jimbo the Coastie| 4.20.12 @ 1:54PM

Mr. Lord,
Great article as usual but I think you're too soft on O'Donnell. He's not only a hypocrite, he's a coward.

zeeman| 4.20.12 @ 3:13PM

Article is much too pedantic. When writing for political consumption, state your case clearly and succinctly.

Resist We Much! | 4.20.12 @ 3:20PM

1. A 2011 Gallup poll found that 27% of Democrats said they wouldn't vote for a Mormon of their own party for president, 50% more than the 18% of Republicans who felt that way. In a Quinnipiac survey, 46% of Democrats said they wouldn't be comfortable with a Mormon president, while 29% of Republican respondents felt similarly.

Democrats aren't going to vote for Romney anyway.

Forget The Big Love Shack And Get Ready For The Big Hate.

http://predicthistunpredictpas.....r-big.html

2. In the United States, such Muslims may have already reached numerical parity with their fundamentalist-Mormon counterparts; as many as 100,000 Muslims reside in multi-wife families, and the phenomenon has gained particular traction among black Muslims.

Polygamy, Too!

http://predicthistunpredictpas.....y-too.html

Tim| 4.20.12 @ 3:59PM

To Compare JFK to Obama is ridiculous.

JFK would be to the Right of Romney if he were here today.

As to buying an election:

JFK's Father bought his

The Union's and Radical Left Money bought Obama's

and if he wins,

The Romney Mega Millions and the mega Millions of his rich friends will buy his.

What else is new......

Welcome to Politics 101

Money talks and BS walks.

Your serve.

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 5:02PM

Serve? Try this: Barry is more intelligent than Jack [former got into Harvard legitimately, whereas the latter's father BAUGHT his entrance due to political connections]; has more morals than Jack[former doesn't have whores running into/out of WH]; the latter's family & Teddy BAUGHT the former's POTUS election; The latter used his little brother's AG frontage for his liberalism; no the unions and left don't have enough money to BUY his election.....but the oil money of the Arab-Muslim middle east sure as shootin did BUY IT; and Mitt and his mega-rich friends don't have the money to compete with Barry's oil-rich Arab-Muslim friends to BUY this election and MONEY BUYING is only effective when STUPID-VOTERS IE DEMOCRATS are involved, so this November election will not be able to be BAUGHT since INTELLIGENT REPUBLICANS AND INDEPENDENTS will vote their consciouses. Guess tha's GAME, SET AND MATCH, huh????????

Skuzi| 4.20.12 @ 4:58PM

Harry Reid is not running for president, Mitt Romney is and there lies the difference between these two men, however, for those of you who have written in defense of Mitt or wish to see him as the Republican nominee, it is clear that you have NOT done your due diligence of this man. It is sooooooo very important that every voting American do their own extensive due diligence before voting. We can not afford to get this wrong.

KennesawJack| 4.20.12 @ 5:22PM

So, if we do our due diligence, we'll vote for Obamarx? Huh? Who do we vote for if not Romney?

GregA| 4.20.12 @ 5:43PM

Never bothered the leftist pundits that Robert "Sheets" Byrd had been a higher-up in the Klan.

rhoetus| 4.20.12 @ 5:45PM

1964 & 65 was the end of Federalism and the start of an even more intrusive centralized (and oligarchic) national State.

GregA| 4.20.12 @ 5:50PM

If Romney was a Democrat, O'Donnell would be saying how his political rise as a Mormon was another example of beautiful diversity found in the Democratic Party.

Dominiac| 4.20.12 @ 6:49PM

O'Donnell is nothing buy a slimeball. Maybe Reid will own up to his religion and tell O'Donnell to get out of Dodge. Another Coffee with Joe clown on MSNBC

Dominiac| 4.20.12 @ 6:50PM

but.

Michael| 4.20.12 @ 7:33PM

O'Donnell is another example of a Democrat who works for a Democrat legislator then moves to TV as a journalist.

Dale| 4.20.12 @ 7:53PM

O'Donnell has either has not read nor understands the KJV Bible, which all Mormons read, where it teaches, "Judge not lest ye be judged." Citing the Gallop poll, didn't their poll also say that 29% of voters now believe that President Obama is a Muslim? The real issues for the 2012 election is the economy stupid! Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I have a Masters degree in Theology, and went to a Baptist seminary accredited by Harvard, and I say Mormons of today, will clothe you when you need it, shelter you and feed you with all that 7 years of storage they keep in their basements. If you are in trouble, find a Mormon. ")

Bob From District 9| 4.20.12 @ 8:30PM

All of Jeffery Lord's BS can't cover up the simple fact that there would be no opening to attack Willard Mitt Romney's religion if it hadn't been for right wing attacks against Obama's faith.

The right has constantly accused Obama of being a Muslim, all the while the very fact that he say's he's a Christian makes him not a Muslim. After all, Islam is a religion where there is no formal initiation, you have to say you are one to be one.

The great offense is the fact that Obama has to deny being a Muslim, as if being a Muslim was some kind of crime. And before you ask who attacked us on 9-11, the answer is Saudi Arabian Wahabi. A fact you right wingers won't even mention.

Go on all you want about Romney's religion, and the attacks, but you have years of tolerating attacks on Obama's religion to overcome before you even begin to gain some traction.

Jeffrey Lord| 4.20.12 @ 11:28PM

Bob from District 9....

As I have written frequently...Obama is not only a Christian...he belonged to my denomination...the United Church of Christ. A faith where each church runs itself, but has a national leadership on the extreme far left. I know exactly about the President's denomination...because it is mine.

Respectfully, you are clueless.

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 5:12PM

With all due respect, wasn't Obama's particular church the one pastored by Jeremiah Wright, who issued the famous GD, America rant etc; didn't Obama attend such church for twenty years [and expose his children to same perhaps]; hasen't also Wright's brand of theology been described as BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY;and hasn't it been insinuated that Obama was semi-forced to join a church by community organizing forces in Chicago prior to joining Wright's church? I really don't know if I'd want to associate my religious faith with this if true!!!!!!!!

workathomer| 4.20.12 @ 8:51PM

The Mormon unconventional belief system is a real problem for Mitt. Will be seen as lacking reason and intelligence and Mitt was a Bishop in LDS. The MSM WILL use MORMONISM because they can get away with it given their monopoly of airwaves and the uninformed general public. The Reid factor will be ignored by MSM and the general public will not even be aware.

Kritz| 4.20.12 @ 9:30PM

Utterly typical rightwing nonsense. When someone points out the Catholic Church's deplorable record on child rape, that is not religious bigotry — it's history. When O'Donnell points out Mormonism's deplorable record on racism, that's history too.

This is the sound of uncomfortable rightwingers — who are creeped out by Romney's faith — trying to give themselves cover by accusing the other side of antireligious bigotry.

Americans are smarter than that, but the right tries it all the time regardless.

Sad, really.

Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 11:26PM

I am willing to compare my Mormon Church anytime to Obama's Trinity Church where it is taught that white people are the devil and that God damns America. Or will you tell me that Obama never heard that when he was there, he only heard the love and Jesus stuff. Sad that people like you have their heads so far up their asses they never realize what idiotic hypocrites they are.

Jeffrey Lord| 4.20.12 @ 11:23PM

Kritz....

The fact is the Majority leader of the US Senate...your guy...is of exactly the same faith as Romney. The fcat that you are not "creeped out" by his faith ...but Romney's.....says all we need to know. And since you are a fan of history, you guys are the ones with the wretched and well documented history of racial and religious bigotry.

Platforms, policies, nominees, office holders rife with anti-black bias, antri-Asian bias, anti-Catholic bias, anti-Jewish bias etc etc etc.

History is exactly where we need to look here.

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 5:35PM

You are all partially correct, but in reality none of it matters overall. This country will die economically/financially if Obama is re-elected, and that is the ONLY FACT THAT IS RELEVANT [whereas, just as with JFK's 1960 election, a candidate's religion IS NOT RELEVANT]!!!!!

Jeff | 4.20.12 @ 11:23PM

Of course, the worst part about all this is that the whole “blacks couldn’t hold the Priesthood until 1978” is an urban myth. The first black Latter-day Saint priest was ordained in 1836, and many others were ordained between 1836 and 1978. The 1978 revelation dealt with people of Canaanite descent, regardless of skin color; it just so happens that there is a significant overlap between African-Americans and “Negroes,” which was believed (perhaps correctly, perhaps not) to be almost synonymous with “Canaanite.”

Furthermore, it’s all well and good to say that Brigham Young was a racist, but so were most nineteenth-century Americans. They lived in a different time and understood things differently. If we fault Romney for Brigham Young’s racism, we have to fault everyone in America for the racism of those who have gone before. I doubt that would leave many of us unscathed.

The bottom line is that this whole thing is stupid. They’re making a huge deal out of a nonexistent issue that, even if it really were an issue, would still be completely irrelevant. I think this whole campaign against Romney just goes to show who the real bigots are.

Clint| 4.20.12 @ 11:26PM

Do Your Homework.

" The Associated Press reported recently that three insurance companies receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by Protestant clergy, challenging the assumption that clergy sexual abuse is an exclusively Catholic problem that does not take place in other churches.

That is a higher number than the annual average of 228 “credible accusations” brought against Catholic clerics in records reported by the Catholic Church in response to media scrutiny, a priest observed in a Fox News commentary questioning why the story isn’t garnering more attention. "

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 5:29PM

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life, but I'll consider the source. To compare the sexual abuse within the Catholic Church to any other religion in volume/quantity is ludicrous. To use as your source reference the very Catholic Church that is the abuser is even more stupid [next you'll concur with the UN's granting Arab countries entrance to HUMAN RIGHTS panels]. Beyond your stupidity, whether it be the Catholic or any other church, ANY CHURCH that fosters and effectively protects child molestation should rightfully be comdemned [unless of course you're a typical FAITHFUL CATHOLIC 'STUPIDS' IN ABUSE-DENIAL, WHILE COLLECTION PLATE CONTRIBUTING TO THE ABUSERS EACH WEEK AT MASS]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

POST American| 4.21.12 @ 5:20AM

------------------BOTTOMLESS LINE-------------------

CFR front ops

------------Bush Sr
---------------Clinton
------------------Bush Jr
--------------------'BAR--Rockefeller' Obama

and now, putting forth

---------------'SUB--Mitt ROME--knee'-----------------

In this, the 11th hour of the CFR-RED China
handover, takedown, occupation and
FINAL EUGENICS OP ------------TAKE HEED!

Thom in Wisconsin| 4.22.12 @ 1:55PM

HUH?

old white guy| 4.21.12 @ 9:03AM

the comments are wandering all over the place. it would seem that romney as a mormon is an honorable man compared to hussien obama. lawrence odonell is a hypocrite and a coward. his statements about islam prove that he is a coward and his support of harry reid prove he is a hypocrite. some poaters need to read the article again.

old white guy| 4.21.12 @ 9:03AM

posters....

Purp| 4.21.12 @ 4:14PM

Honorable men don't put people on the street and in the bread line to make a buck. Romney is a back-stabbing typical CEO type that cares more for his "Cadillacs" than the people that clean his house.

Doctor Gonzo| 4.21.12 @ 9:14PM

Well, the funny part about O'Donnell, was that he even admitted that you wouldn't get into much serious danger for saying or doing what he is both saying and doing. To me, that looks pretty cowardly.

Richard Hilger| 4.21.12 @ 10:33AM

The liberal left is an agenda. They don't complicate it with morality, veracity or reason. They have shown, beyond a doubt, that they are willing to lie, equivocate, steal, cheat, re-write history, ruthlessly destroy opposition and champion hypocrisy, with inanity, bluster, ignorance and a closed-minded stubbornness otherwise found only en masse in children under the age of seven. Put on your 'mind-boggle hats', folks, for they've only just begun.

Andrew Lohr | 4.21.12 @ 11:56AM

(1) Sure, remind Democrats where hypocrites go when they die; linking Reid to Romney may help some, but I doubt it'll be as decisive as Mr Lord thinks.
(2) O'Romneycare's loathsome paternalism and unrepented slurs against Speaker Gingrich and Senator Santorum give me more cause to reject Romney than his Mormonism, and his personal Mormon ethics (except false witness) seem OK from my distance, but if he puts any stock in the Book of Mormon, he's showing worse judgment than I'd like to see in a President. I've read it; it's a fantasy novel. And he thinks it's ancient American history? Even atheists and theological liberals admit the Bible has something to do with ancient Jewish history; but does any non-Mormon admit the Book of Mormon has anything to do with pre-Joseph-Smith history?

Bill| 4.21.12 @ 1:12PM

Veep Talk:
1. Kelly Ayotte: The women votes
2. Bob McDonald: Southern heritage
3. Chris Christie: Straight talker, no apology
4. Pat Toomey: Anti-tax crusader
5. Rob Portman: Buckeye auditor
6. Marco Rubio: The Latino votes
7. Jeb Bush: Sunshine Guru

My pick: Kelly Ayotte

Purp| 4.21.12 @ 4:19PM

Remember, the #1 requirement for VP is who is ready to be President, if need be?
1. Kelly Ayotte: Who is this again? No.
2. Bob McDonald: Vaginal probster? God No.
3. Chris Christie: Governor Rude Lard A**? a Joke
4. Pat Toomey: Club for Growth Romney Twin - already have one
5. Rob Portman: Bush's Budgeteer - Bush taint
6. Marco Rubio: Tea Party in Latino clothing - Seriously, what is he, 12?
7. Jeb Bush: A Bush, 'nuf said.

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 5:38PM

Okay DA....Joe 'ABFD' Biden is 'ready'? What a joke! Your Democrats are considering dumping him for Hillary the Hun, so what does that say for his qualifications to be POTUS?????

Set Our Children Free | 4.21.12 @ 2:58PM

What about Obama's membership in a racist church for over 20 years? What about his other associations with professed communists and revolutionaries? What about those Mr. O'Donnel? And you call yourself a journalist? You're nothing more than a hypocritical shill for Obama, lacking in any professional ethics whatsoever!

Purp| 4.21.12 @ 4:20PM

We know all that, nothing new about any of that - so what? He IS President and none of that made any difference, did it?

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 5:41PM

You are correct and you are so because of what Forrest Gump indicated about STUPIDITY. Hopefully the American voters have now awakened to their 11/4/08 lack of congnitive reasoning, and Republican Romney will become the next POTUS on 11/4/12!!!!!!!

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 3:21PM

To the CLINTIFIED ''''TRUE CONSERVATIVES'''' out there [I hope you understand the following]:
'.....Newsmax Michael Reagan: Obama Exploiting Dad’s Legacy For Political Gain
Friday, April 20, 2012 05:21 PM
By: Paul Scicchitano and Kathleen Walter
Michael Reagan, the son of the late President Ronald Reagan, tells Newsmax.TV that President Barack Obama has been playing a game of “three-card Monte” with his father’s memory in an attempt to win support for his re-election bid.“They’re trying to actually put words in Ronald Reagan’s mouth and, if people don’t really know Ronald Reagan, they may be led to believe that Ronald Reagan would be against his own party and be for the Democrats in this next election — and I think that’s exactly what he’s trying to do,” Reagan charged in an exclusive interview on Tuesday.“He’s playing three-card Monte with Ronald Reagan and I’m glad I’m here to make sure that I know where they’re hiding the ball,” added Reagan, a Republican strategist and head of the Reagan Legacy Foundation.....He said that Obama would have Americans believe that President Reagan would be supportive of his so-called “Buffett rule.”
Obama recently attempted to draw a comparison between himself and Reagan, referring to the Gipper as another “wild-eyed, socialist, tax-hiking class warrior” in an attempt to win support for his campaign for higher taxes on top U.S. earners.Moreover, Obama said that he is not the first president to call “for this idea that everybody has got to do their fair share” and he offered to rename his proposal the “Reagan Rule” if it would sway Congress.“The reality of it is Ronald Reagan would be supportive of the Paul Ryan plan. Ronald Reagan would not be for what it is that Barack Obama wants to do — and is doing — to the United States of America,” Reagan insisted. Despite his misstatements, Obama is correct when he says that President Reagan would have difficulty winning his party’s nomination in today’s political climate. But the same can also be said of President John F. Kennedy, who would have difficulty winning the Democratic Party’s nomination, according to Reagan.
“Two iconic figures of their own parties would have trouble today getting the nomination. But Barack Obama is using that to make people believe that somehow Ronald Reagan would support his position on taxes — his position on what needs to be done in the United States of America to bring us to fiscal sanity, if you will,” Reagan declared, adding that his father would never have supported the Buffett rule.
Reagan also offered advice for Mitt Romney to how best to bring the party together to defeat Obama now that the former Massachusetts governor has emerged as the presumptive GOP nominee.“He needs to reach out to conservatives,” explained Reagan, who had endorsed former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. “They need to have a voice. And maybe that’s when he chooses his nominee for the vice presidency. Maybe that’s where he’ll go to somebody who’s a strong conservative. Then, in fact, conservatives can rally behind, and therefore support Mitt Romney.”He believes that Romney’s best shot at winning the general election is if the Republican Party is “100 percent” behind him. “It’s got to be about Barack Obama. It can’t be nitpicking at our own candidate and finding his flaws. But it’s got to find the positive side if there’s going to be change and we have to get rid of Barack Obama. That’s the way Mitt Romney can go out and win,” declared Reagan. “If we are not together as one on Nov. 7 of this year then Barack Obama will win another four years in the presidency.”
But Reagan cautions Romney to be wary of people who may claim to have worked on his father’s campaign. “As much as you hear Barack Obama using my father’s name; as much as you hear Republican candidates using my father’s name; there are also people who work on campaigns who, in fact, drop my father’s name every single day — as if they were hooked to my father hook, line and sinker. And those things are not always true,” he warned. “Always check it out. Because many people who say they worked on my father’s campaign when he became president, in fact were fired, and not on the campaign at that time.”He said that Romney should surround himself with people who have been associated with winning political campaigns, as opposed to losing efforts. “It’s time to shed the Republican Party of the old guard and bring in the new,” he declared.
Reagan draws a parallel between the 2012 election and his father’s successful election in 1980. If Romney makes the election about Barack Obama, he can be successful, according to Reagan. “If the election is about Barack Obama, as in 1980 the election was about Jimmy Carter, then yes, it can be like 1980,” he explained. “But if the election is about, you know, Mitt Romney. If the election’s about in-fighting within the Republican Party, and is he a true conservative? Is he not a true conservative? Maybe we should have voted for that guy — and we get caught up in our own minutia — then in fact, it won’t be like 1980. It will be like 1976.”He did not know enough about the relationship between Romney’s father — George Romney, the popular three-term governor and automobile company chief executive in Michigan — and President Reagan, to say whether the two men were close. But “you’ll never meet anybody anywhere who ever had a bad relationship with Ronald Reagan,” quipped Reagan.
That is everyone except possibly Reagan’s predecessor in the Oval Office.“Jimmy Carter to this day is still mad that Ronald Reagan beat him, and still thinks that Ronald Reagan somehow cheated him out of winning his second term as president of the United States of America,” he said.President Reagan once gave his son insight into the presidency that may be relevant for Romney. “He said, ‘Michael, you’re elected president, but there comes a time in every one of our lives when you no longer look at the fact you were elected, but that day is, you become the president of the United States, and understand the authority and the power that you now have, and then what you have to do with it.”...........'

Purp| 4.21.12 @ 4:25PM

Who cares what Ronald Reagan's sperm donation says today? That fruit has fallen very far from the tree. Ronald Reagan may have been a conservative, but not like the nutcases we have on display today. He raised the debt ceiling 18 times ! He would throw up on Paul Ryan if he was here today. RONALD Reagan knew how to get things done - these Republicant jokers today simply do what ALEC and the Koch Bros tell them to do. They are shills for corporate America and chief among is Willard Romney.

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 5:48PM

Hey DA, look/read again since your asinine statement of '....Who cares what Ronald Reagan's sperm donation says today? That fruit has fallen very far from the tree.....' referenced the RIGHT CHURCH BUT THE WRONG PEW, SINCE YOU'RE '''''STUPID'''''. You're referring to Ron Reagan Jr., whereas the article was written by MICHAEL REAGAN, you dumbars! Two children, differenct mothers, same father. The 'fruit' that you STUPIDLY referred to was/is a ballet dancer and ARTSY-FARTSY offspring, not the ultra-conservative other one, DA!!!!!

Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 5:54PM

PS you DA: Re-read the article, where Michael Reagan accurately states that neither political party would accept its current standard bearers today [JFK would be less shunned by Democrats than would be Reagan by Republicans today]. The Republican Party is righfully drifting to become more conservatively controlled, while the Democratic Party has now become a bunch or domestic terrorist radicals bento on destruction of this country!!!!!!

markenoff| 4.21.12 @ 11:24PM

"If we had a candidate running for president today or any nominee facing Senate confirmation who belonged to a racially exclusive club until he was 31 years old, that man's candidacy for the presidency or for the Cabinet or for the federal court that man's candidacy would be doomed."

The precedent for a liberal Dem belonging to a racist club well into their adulthood has already been set by Robert "The Conscience of the Senate" Byrd, aka a KKK recruiter. And, if you think about it, all Dems belong to an organization with a history of racism. What party lead the Confederate states' efforts to maintain slavery through civil war? What party did Bull Connor belong to? What party did the governor of Arkansas belong to when the Republican president Eisenhower sent the 101st Airborne to Little Rock to integrate the schools?

Thom in Wisconsin| 4.22.12 @ 1:52PM

I wouldn't concern myself about the scruples of Reid. He's as good a Mormon as the "Christian" who is in favor of abortion. Mormons are, in huge majority, conservative to one degree or another. I was a member and an elder for a few years. My leaving had nothing to do with politics or personalities. I say this to demonstrate some knowledge of the society as a whole. Reids "Mormonism" isn't going to be an issue here.

Tman | 4.22.12 @ 10:36PM

Wow, I was unaware there were so many “Bible Scholars on the site. So, some have a problem with Mormons, really, how about Catholics, Christian Science, Jehovah Witness, Jews, 7 day Adventist, Baptist, Methodist, etc. Many Christians believe Catholicism is “cultish”. Yea, and how about this: many christians believe that Evangelist have misinterpreted the bible, so what now. How about these topics: “Baptisim, Lords Supper, what to do with church money (all topics of controversy amongs the denominations and religions.

Reminds me of a joke, two guys in prison sustain injuries when one threw gasoline on the other and lite him on fire. What were they arguing about: “The Bible”. Who were the prisoners: Charles Manson and one of his students”.

Not looking for a Pasteur, looking for someone of character and common sense to be President, got a problem with that all you Bible Scholars out there.

POST American| 4.22.12 @ 11:20PM

----------------------FINAL WORD----------------------

The catholics got their Kennedy.

The muslims got their 'BAR--Rockefeller Obama'.

Now, the ever EUGENICS 'friendly'
mormons want their man
---------------------'SUB-Mitt ROME--knee'.

ALSO, to be fair, the capstone
'Republican' fake op well
realizes that their candidate needs
bottomless funding to take on
the lavishly backed Obama.

Meanwhile, in this the undeniable
11th hour of the CFR--RED China handover,
takedown, TREASON, OCCUPATION and
FINAL EUGENICS OP ----word is spreading
and catching fire of MASSIVE voter FRAUD
in Iowa
----Nevada
-----------South Carolina
-------------------Florida
--------------------------and Maine.

All this against the backdrop of
multiple declarations of unprecedented
TREASON from Pelosi, General 'Be-tray-us',
Leon 'PAN--NET--a', 'ROME Emmanual'
and Justice Ginzburg
---as the chillingly North Korean
NDAA 1021 is implemented while it's
reported that 'Homeland SICK--CURE--'IT'--he's
monthly order of rounds of ammo now
exceeds the HUNDREDS of MILLIONS.

DO YOU NEED MORE SIGNS?

"When your time comes
--WHAT WILL YOU DO?"
-'IKIRU'
1952 film

In this, the 11th hour of the
4 decades underway RED China handover and
America takedown op

----------TIME'S UP

---------------TIME'S HERE

------------------WHAT WILL YOU DO?

kate| 4.24.12 @ 1:42AM

I follow things pretty closely and I had NO IDEA of little mr. reid's affiliation. I really don't like him.

I am with Romney and hope he choses Rubio for VP.
Outraged at the lack of information the fourth estate puts forward.

kate| 4.24.12 @ 1:51AM

Now that I've thought about it for a moment, IT IS HILARIOUS...no...NOOOOO!!!!!!!! Reid is a mormon?
So what are the dems going to do to attack Romney?
Well. I think Romney is a stand-up guy and I am voting for him. And I hope he brings Rubio along for the ride.;)
How crazy is all of this????

TheLoneRanger| 4.27.12 @ 9:32AM

Lying haters like Lawrence O’Donnell who purposely misrepresent the facts about Mormonism should consider one fact according to a local Mormon leader. That fact is that no matter what the reporting is about their church, “There is no bad publicity.” His reasoning is because in the last several months more sincere inquires about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (The Mormons) have been made then would have been made if Mitt Romney had not run for president.

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