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Boulder Holidaze
Today’s annual Colorado gathering of mile-high stoners can expect to face a “conciliatory” crackdown.
If you’re not a pothead (I’m not) and if you don’t live near a pot mecca like Boulder, Colorado (I do), you might not know that today, 4/20, is something of a national holiday for marijuana devotees.
It isn’t, as urban legend would have you believe, because the police radio code for marijuana use or trafficking is a “four-twenty” or that a section of some state’s penal code relating to pot is Section 420. Instead, according to Snopes.com, it originally started as the time that a bunch of stoners in a California high school regularly met to get high.
But it’s become much more than a small gathering and something of a “counterculture holiday” — more accurately “holidaze” — particularly right here in Boulder, Colorado, a town full of people whom a friend recently described as “stoned and fresh and organic.” On 4/20, organic is optional and you can definitely forget about fresh, at least as far as personal hygiene is involved. Stoned, for sure.
More than 10,000 people showed up on the University of Colorado’s flagship campus in Boulder in 2011 (with similar attendance in each of the prior few years), costing the university over $50,000 for cleanup and security. Bradley Monton, an associate professor of philosophy at CU, says this is “the price we should happily pay for living in a free society.” My guess is that the “we” who will be paying are much different from the “we” who will be happy, since almost none of the participants pay taxes.
The number of organic but not so fresh people, and the amount of smoke they create in a short time, is amusingly demonstrated in a one minute time-lapse video of the 2010 “four-twenty” event. Presumably, sales at nearby Cosmo’s Pizza and Snarf’s Sub Shop spiked minutes after the video was taken.
In recent years, the police have given out small numbers of tickets (about two dozen last year) for smoking marijuana in public. But in 2012, the University, under the leadership of Chancellor Phil DiStefano, is clamping down by closing the campus to visitors on 4/20 and requiring that students, staff, and faculty show campus ID to step foot on university property.
The impact of this is to allow the police to issue fines for trespassing, which the Denver Post, calling the campus shutdown a “heavy-handed overreach,” notes can “carry a penalty of up to $750 and six months in jail.”
On Thursday evening, a Boulder district judge denied a request for an injunction to block the University’s action; none of the six plaintiffs was a University of Colorado student.
The debate mixes claims of individuals’ right to free association and the school’s right to prevent disruption of the school’s educational activities, with questions of devaluing a CU degree, with the broader topic of marijuana legalization — though the latter is more of a smokescreen on 4/20.
In a letter responding to the Post’s editorial, DiStefano challenges claims that the 4/20 smoke-out is a protest: “If it is a protest, then every party on every college campus in America is a protest…. 4/20 is a gigantic party, and the university’s actions are designed to end it and prevent it from becoming more disruptive and damaging to the campus than it already is.”
Apparently, the disruption is not primarily due to the smell because the University plans to close down Norlin Quad and spread a “fish-based fertilizer” over that giant lawn where the gathering usually happens.
Boulder’s City Council, on a 7-2 vote, passed a resolution in support of the University’s actions to block the event. In an interview with the Boulder Daily Camera, Councilwoman Suzanne Jones, who voted for the resolution, worried that “Heavy-handed measures like closing the campus and issuing trespass tickets seem like a cure that might be worse than the disease.” Another Council member, Ken Wilson, noted that CU-Boulder was named by Playboy as the “Top Party School” for 2011.
On the one hand, I’m a little jealous that none of these girls (don’t click with your kids around) attended the same college I did — though if they had, it may not have worked out as the best use of my parents’ hard-earned tuition expenditures due to my extreme distraction. On the other hand and despite my strong pro-civil liberties inclinations, as a parent and Colorado taxpayer (with a painful reminder dropped in the mail three days ago), neither college students nor their professors, nor “civil rights” ambulance chasers, nor the state nor the nation need or have a right to turn our colleges into THC-fueled bacchanalia.
This is not a civil rights issue, not a “freedom of association” or “right to free expression” issue (as it was framed by a local ACLU spokesman.) It is an issue of breaking a law (even if a law which I oppose) in public, on state property, while disturbing the important work done by Colorado’s largest university and paid for by almost none of the lawbreakers.
About the Author
Ross Kaminsky is a self-employed trader and investor and is a senior fellow of the Heartland Institute. He is the host of The Ross Kaminsky Show on Denver’s NewsRadio 850 KOA at 11 AM on most Sundays. You can reach Ross by e-mail at rossputin(at)rossputin(dot)com.
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aware| 4.20.12 @ 7:27AM
"...a few thousand stoned future leaders of America."
BS. Our "leaders" aren't "stoned"(weed) but should be(with real rocks).
benny havens| 4.20.12 @ 8:57AM
Why aren’t president environment and the other liberal progressives complaining about this? This gathering is in direct violation of the Clean Air Act?
Von Mises Jr| 4.20.12 @ 9:50AM
It is because liberals do not use reason, but tyranny. We are told we cannot smoke tobacco or eat salt because society will have to pay for our poor health care decisions. But the same people promote hooking up and gay sex that promulgates STD's including AIDS, and pregnancy and abortions.
I agree with Ron Paul and John Stossel that the government should get the hell out of our personal lives. So what If the kids want to get a buzz when they are not driving. Did the adults stop drinking the whiskey smuggled by Joe Kennedy during Prohibition?
Occam's Tool| 4.20.12 @ 12:20PM
Problem with MJ is that it has been shown to create psychosis in vulnerable adults. Then they go DTS/DTO (Danger to self/others) and they become my responsibility to stabilize at $1100.00/day state expense.
Von Mises Jr| 4.20.12 @ 3:19PM
Sluts are proven to get STD's and pregnant. Should we outlaw sex outside of marriage? I don't want to pay for antibiotics and abortions.
Drunken Sailor| 4.20.12 @ 4:06PM
I believe we probably pay for that as well through public health free clinics and welfare/food stamps.
Von Mises Jr| 4.20.12 @ 6:11PM
Our children will pay with their liberty.
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 1:01AM
Here's another: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22511328
Pete| 4.20.12 @ 4:29PM
What study is this? Do you have any sources? I think you've watched Reefer Madness way too many times...
Von Mises Jr| 4.21.12 @ 9:09AM
It was a 2009 report done with "Stimulus" money. It was the one where they gave monkeys cocaine to see if they acted crazy.
Foolish since they could have spared the monkeys and just studied Oscam, Perp and Brooksie. Not as smart as monkeys, but much more testing with drugs for longer periods.
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 12:53AM
Check out the New Zealand Christchurch studies, Pete. Do you really want this library rat to data dump on your ass? I'm a Boarded Psychiatrist, moron.
Von Mises Jr| 4.23.12 @ 8:44AM
No your a boring psychotic
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 12:55AM
Ok, dumbass:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=marijuana and psychosis.
1020 references. It's a problem with COMT, primarily, and no, I won't explain as you bore me.
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 12:58AM
Here's the latest, on line ahead of print:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22472772.
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 1:03AM
More: (high potency marijuana is a major problem)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21798112
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 1:06AM
Aaaand, a Christchurch group study (gentlemen: I have extensive experience treating Ojibwe AND Maori indigenous peoples)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15733249.
In short, stop arguing with me. I have access to a major medical research library and the clinical/ academic chops to smash any one down.
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 1:06AM
Unless any of you boys snagged their MD at age 25?
Occam's Tool| 4.20.12 @ 12:16PM
A perfect way to celebrate Hitler's birthday. Assholes.
Pete| 4.20.12 @ 4:33PM
Hitler's birthday is on 4/20? I personally had no idea, and I'm fairly certain they are not out there with signs saying "Happy Birthday Hitler." So no, they are not celebrating Hitler's birthday, but nice try.
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 12:27AM
Yup, Hitler's birthday is 4/20. Again, assholes.
Alan Brooks| 4.20.12 @ 10:07PM
The three little pigs at KOA:
Ross Kaminsky
Jon Caldera
Mike Rosen.
May your cars drive off the road on the way up to Nederland, and be smashed on the rocks below.
Alan Brooks| 4.23.12 @ 1:31AM
Kamisnky may be correct about the stoners; all the same, Boulder is the only civilized city in Colorado.
Bumr50| 4.20.12 @ 7:40AM
Nothing wrong with weed.
Mike Hawk| 4.20.12 @ 1:17PM
After it alters your brain activity and short circuits the synaps, it makes you think so.
Herb| 4.20.12 @ 6:08PM
Weed was my job security. I retired at 62 from a workplace where drug testing was random, frequent, and necessary for safety. Younger guys offered to do my work for less money but kept p**ing hot in the bottle before or after hiring. Weed worked for me.
Fred Farkel| 4.20.12 @ 7:50AM
Will Ron Paul be there??
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 8:50AM
Actually BibiBoy Freaker, Dr.Ron Paul Will Be Here In Pennsylvania At Independence Mall On Sunday.
Oldefarte| 4.20.12 @ 11:13AM
'.....Breitbart.com Media Matters' Oliver Willis Wants Pro-Israel Liberals 'Marginalized' by Ben Shapiro 21 hours ago As we revealed yesterday, MJ Rosenberg wasn’t the only anti-Israel extremist working at Media Matters for America: Senior Fellow Eric Boehlert once downplayed genocidal anti-Semitism, routinely suggests that media coverage is too pro-Israel thanks to the intimidation by nefarious forces (hint hint), and defended terrorist professor Sami Al-Arian.Today, we examine Oliver Willis, a research fellow at Media Matters. Just like MJ and Eric, Willis is an anti-Israel extremist with a soft spot for anti-Semitism.Willis once referred to Paul Wolfowitz as “filthy” and Joe Lieberman as “fascistic.” He accused Israel of “Playing Games With American Lives” for building settlements, and wrote that he “can’t wait for the day when we can tell both sides [of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict] to go to hell.” He has stated that “The Democratic Party will be at its best” only once pro-Israel AIPAC-associated liberals like Josh Block are “marginalized.” He has defended via retweet MJ Rosenberg’s use of the white supremacist term “Israel firsters.” He accuses conservatives of attacking “everyone who doesnt march in lockstep with Israel.” And while anti-Israel fanatic Glenn Greenwald accuses me of watering down the term anti-Semitism by pointing out Media Matters’ relentless pattern of providing cover to anti-Semites, he has nothing to say about Willis, who likened one mosque being burned in Tennessee to full-blown Nazi treatment of Jews.Willis isn’t literate on the Israel-Palestinian issue (as with most other issues); his anti-Israel feeling seems to come from groupthink more than from the informed anti-Israel radicalism of MJ Rosenberg or Boehlert. And yet Willis is one of Media Matters’ key in-house policers of right-wing anti-Semitism. Ah, the irony.More to come.....'
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 12:05PM
Tell It To Your Mancrush, Bibi.
Ross Kaminsky | 4.20.12 @ 3:42PM
Clint,
What the hell is wrong with you?
Why does every conversation have to turn to your insipid hatred of Israel and your equally insipid love of Ron Paul?
Seriously, you talk about "man crush"...nobody has a man crush the way you do.
The article was about students smoking pot in Boulder. The only reason I can think of that you might write comments as ridiculous as yours is that you started you own 4/20 event a little early.
Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 5:00PM
Clint's 4/20 event is celebrating Hitler's Birthday, not sure if smoking weed is involved in it or not.
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 5:59PM
That's A Lie.
You're An Israel Firster Smear Bund Liar,Little Todd.
Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 5:19PM
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/.....a-Exposed/
Duncan20903| 4.20.12 @ 7:19PM
Mr. Hitler was a fan of methamphetamine so Clint is most likely tweaking to celebrate than enjoying cannabis.
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 11:52PM
Hitler Was An Asshole, Just Like You Dung Job.
Play Your Smear Bund Crap Elsewhere Coward.
Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 5:18PM
Rumor has it that Adolph was a closeted Catholic priest, but don't tell anybody, okay??????
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 5:56PM
Duuuhhhhhhh !
" Fred Farkel| 4.20.12 @ 6:50AM
Will Ron Paul be there??"
We Call It Free Speech In America, Cafeteria Libertarian Mittens' Kitten Bloviator.Kaminsky.
Ross Kaminsky | 4.20.12 @ 7:49PM
Clint, I didn't say you don't have a right to be an idiot. I was just pointing out that you are one. Ain't America great?
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 9:56PM
Yeah, It Sure Is Romney's Israel Firster Neo-Libertarian BibiBot.
Call Your Mancrush, Bibi.
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 9:36PM
Blessed are the morons
For they shall be called SPECIAL!!!!
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 12:29AM
Thanks, Ross. However, may I point out that C(lint) Elegans has only 302 neurons, so arguing with him may be useless?
Dick Nome| 4.20.12 @ 8:42PM
Duhhh! Paulbots believe in legalizing drugs, that's no doubt why FF posted that. Flame on Clint. You owe Ross an apology
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 10:07PM
Do Your Homework Before Ya Run Your Uninformed Mouth, Little Dick.
" FACT: Paul believes prostitution and drug use to be morally wrong, but believes it to be a state issue per the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution.
Ron Paul persistently defends the Constitution and the Tenth Amendment--the amendment protecting states rights, and believes prostitution and drug use is a states' rights issue not enumerated to the federal government under the Constitution.
There is actually no federal law prohibiting prostitution today, but it is illegal via most states' laws.
While Paul supports ending the War on Drugs, the Congress would only be legally capable of ending the federal mandate on drug use and possession; states would still retain their laws prohibiting drug use and possession."
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 12:30AM
Ron Paul authored a bill legalizing MJ on a Federal level with Barney Frank, Clint. Sorry, you be an idiot.
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 2:30PM
Ross, the weather is getting a little warm, and no doubt Clint is sufficating from wearing his checkered tablecothed turbin too tight perhaps [or maybe his burka is too tight in the waist perhaps]. Or maybe instead he's shunned same for his TOO SHORT SHORTS for Lake Jackson bicycling with Ron & Friends. It's hard to be a WHITE SUPREMISIST these days no doubt with summer approaching!!!!!!
Clint| 4.22.12 @ 10:30AM
Uh Oh !
The Anti-Catholic Deliverance Banjo Pickin' River Sex Inbred, Oldefarte Tries To Play The White Supremist Card On Tea Party Clint.
You Banjo Pickin' Deliverance River Sex Inbreds Seem To Have A Real Hang Up Against Us Yankee Catholics.
Now, Go Brush Your Tooth.
Mike Hawk| 4.22.12 @ 2:26PM
Ross, you have to have some sympathy for Clint. He is a dedicated Paulbot. His guy is going nowhere. In the fall Ron Paul will be retired and the Paulistinians will be leaderless without their 77 yr old icon. Clint has probably been out bike riding 1 too many times in 100 degree heat like his idol and it has scrambled his senses. Then again the octogenarian Paul could surface in 2016 and give the Paulbots something to live for, but I doubt it.
Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 5:13PM
Yeah, bike riding in those TOO SHORT SHORTS with Clint closing fast behind!!!!
Alan Brooks| 4.23.12 @ 1:27AM
Kaminsky,
why don't rightwing Jews such as yourself think of blacks as more than just the guys who shine your shoes?
Occam's Tool| 4.20.12 @ 12:17PM
Being useless and supporting the use of Marijuana, I'm sure. Thanks, Clint.
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 6:01PM
Tool Job's Another Israel Firster Smear Bund BibiBot RINO-CINO,Who Said He'd Vote For The Ruling Elites' RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney Way Back In June.
We Are Being Set Up By The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.
These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.
Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 2:32PM
You've all just been indoctrinated with WHITE SUPREMACY 101 by the CINO MASTER!!!!!!
Clint| 4.21.12 @ 4:15PM
Tell It To Your Deliverance Banjo Pickin' River Sex Wheelchair Buddies, Oldefarte.
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 9:40PM
Tell it to your fellow dragons at the KKK rally!!!!
Clint| 4.22.12 @ 10:31AM
Tell It To Your Inbred HomeBoys, Oldefarte
Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 5:10PM
Here's one of Ronny's newsletters for your enjoyment:
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/.....a-Exposed/
Mike Hawk| 4.20.12 @ 1:16PM
Doing what?? A photo-op for you and his other 12 supporters.
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 6:03PM
Show Up & Find Out, Little Micky Hawklette.
Mike Hawk| 4.20.12 @ 8:49PM
Thanks, for the invite, but I already have something to do. There is an election of importance on Tuesday and Rube Paul is the last guy I'm concerned with before then.
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 10:12PM
Ron Paul to Hold Campaign Rally on Independence Mall in Philadelphia.
The event, which is free and open to the public, will be held on Sunday, April 22nd beginning at 1:00 p.m. and Dr. Paul is scheduled to speak at 2:30 p.m. At the event, the 12-term Congressman from Texas will discuss his path-breaking 'Plan to Restore America' and his agenda as President. Former CIA officer and Bin Laden Unit leader Michael Scheuer, who last December endorsed Ron Paul for the presidency, also will address the crowd.
Sunday, April 22, 2012
2:30 p.m.* Ron Paul Major Campaign Rally Lawn at the Independence Mall Visitors Center 1 N Independence Mall West (b/t Market and Arch Streets) Philadelphia, PA 19106
[*The rally start time is 1:00 p.m. and Dr. Paul will speak at 2:30 p.m.]
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 9:41PM
What time is the CROSS LIGHTINGS????
Mike Hawk| 4.22.12 @ 10:50AM
Earth Day rally.
Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 5:07PM
Or a Ron Paul newletter subscription rally maybe!!!!!
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 2:33PM
Are white hood/robes attaire required??????
Clint| 4.21.12 @ 4:13PM
We Can't Stop Ya.
Are Yours In The Cleaners, Oldefarte?
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 9:44PM
Yeah, I fell down in a PILE OF CLINT while wearing it!!!!!!
Clint| 4.22.12 @ 10:33AM
Goog.
You Admit You're A 'Bama Bigot Boy.
Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 5:05PM
No, can't compare to your successes in that department as per this:
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/.....a-Exposed/
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 12:32AM
Clint:
Now you've done it. You've insulted Alabama. Moron.
Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 5:08PM
What other 12....you mean that there are 12 more like him???????????
Doctor Right| 4.20.12 @ 1:30PM
Will you ask him to autograph your belly?
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 6:06PM
Yo Mama Will Ask Him To Autograph Her Fat Ass, Dr.Reich.
Dr.Reich' s The Elitist Wannabe ,Who Said He'll Vote For The Ruling Elites' RINO-CINO,Frontman, Mittens Romney.
We Are Being Set Up By The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.
These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.
Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 2:34PM
Straight from BERLIN DIARY no doubt!!!!
Clint| 4.21.12 @ 4:19PM
We Heard A Lot Of You Berlin Boys Ain't Too Straight.
You Seem To Prove It, Oldefarte.
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 9:45PM
Straighter than you CROCKED CROSSES no doubt!!!!
Clint| 4.22.12 @ 10:36AM
Good.
You Admit You're A Berlin Boy.
Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 5:03PM
Here's a segment of your Berlin Diary:
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/.....a-Exposed/
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 12:33AM
Well, Clint, I don't see any difference betwen you and the boys your daddy killed on the subject of Joooos.
rightasrain| 4.20.12 @ 8:41AM
College students don't realize the disservice they do to their employment prospects and the reputation of their school when they let their college get labelled a party school. And they do this intentionally when they encourage everyone to go online and claim this "honor" on sites like the Princeton Review.
albert constantine jr.| 4.20.12 @ 9:50AM
In truth, the stoners have been tricked into celebrating Hitler's Birthday and (for the last decade plus) the Columbine shootings. Duuuuuuude.
Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 11:07AM
Clint and Jack always make sure to celebrate Hitler's birthday, too bad "interventionist" America stopped him from finishing the job. We all know George Washington would not have approved of getting involved in foreign entanglements. Not like the Nazi's attacked us like the Japs right?
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 12:11PM
That's A Lie.
You're A Smear Bund Liar, Little Toddy.
You Wouldn't Know Real Conservtism If It Jumped Up And Bit Ya RINO-CINO Little Toddy.
Read George Washington's Farewell Address, Thomas Jefferson's First Inaugural Address, The Old Right And Get Back To Us.
" George Will, "Today, we have a very different kind of foreign policy. It’s called Wilsonian. And the premise of the Bush Doctrine is that America must spread democracy, because our national security depends upon it. And America can spread democracy. It knows how. It can engage in national building. This is conservative or not?"
William F. Buckley, " It’s not at all conservative. It’s anything but conservative. It’s not conservative at all, inasmuch as conservatism doesn’t invite unnecessary challenges. It insists on coming to terms with the world as it is …”
Occam's Tool| 4.20.12 @ 12:18PM
Your comments about Jews indicate that you support Hitler's birthday every day, Clint. Ad hominem attacks are a logical fallacy, Clint. And GW's views on Jews and yours do not coincide in the slightest.
SpiralArchitect| 4.20.12 @ 2:26PM
No baby seals around to club?
Stop picking on the easy, defenseless prey, guys.
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 6:45PM
We Tea Party Patriots Can Handle You Israel Firster Smear Bund Wusses Any Day, Any Time, Sport.
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 9:55PM
I'll bet....especially if there's a rope and a tree nearby, huh??????
Clint| 4.22.12 @ 10:38AM
Are You Still Hangin' Around Deliverance Banjo Pickin' Inbred River Sex Boy, Oldefarte.
Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 5:00PM
No, they told me that they had already Ned 'd YOU; oh BTW here's your THIS IS YOUR LIFE moment:
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/.....a-Exposed/
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 12:51AM
TEA party in Minnesota is pro-Israel, Clinton.
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 6:30PM
Uh Oh !
The Screwball Captain Of The Israel Firster Smear Bund Cheerleaders Attempts To play His Dog Eared Hitler's Supporter Card On Tea Party Clint.
George Washington,
" Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests. "
Doctor Right| 4.20.12 @ 1:31PM
It's not a lie; it's 100% true.
As is the fact that you were kicked out of the Valley Forge Tea Party Patriots for "suspicious behavior".
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 6:40PM
Wow !
That's The Sociopathic Mother Of All Your Lies, RINO-CINO Head Case Dr.Reich.
You're Gettin' More Zany Crazed Than Ever, Mittens' Kitten Dr.Reich.
Mike Hawk| 4.20.12 @ 8:52PM
I can verify that as well Dr. R. He got a bit too flakey for them.
Clint| 4.20.12 @ 10:17PM
That's A Lie.
You're A Liar, Little Micky Hawk.
Aaaaand,
We Didn't See Your Serial Liar Ass At Our Friday Meeting At The Phoenixville Country Club Nor Our Anti-Tax Rally On Sunday.
Then Again We Never Do.
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 9:26PM
Are you going to wear your robes and hoods?????
Got enough flammables for the crosses?????
Mike Hawk| 4.22.12 @ 10:39PM
What do you mean 'we'?? Are you sure??
Margaret| 4.22.12 @ 4:22PM
Why did Clinty get kicked out? For being himself.
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 9:56PM
Uh oh...now the cats outa the bag, huh Clint????
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 2:36PM
You keep forgetting......it's not 'real conservatives' but instead REAL WHITE SUPREMACIST, LAKE JACKSON CHAPTER!!!!!!!!
Clint| 4.21.12 @ 4:20PM
Tell It To Your Deliverance Banjo Pickin' River Sex Wheelchair Buddies, Oldefarte.
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 9:30PM
'Real conservatism' or perhaps REAL ANTI-SEMITISM?????????
Clint| 4.22.12 @ 10:42AM
This Is The Big Yellow Anti-Catholic Oldefarte Bus Attempting To Call A Lemon Pie Yellow.
Tell It To Your Deliverance Banjo Pickin' River Sex Wheelchair Buddies, Oldefarte.
Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 4:55PM
Hey Clint [aka Ned Beatty], 'Lemon Pie' the following:
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/.....a-Exposed/
Pete| 4.20.12 @ 10:16AM
As someone who live mere miles from the center of Boulder, I am more concerned about the Greeley smell we will experience when the Mocha Messiah opens his purple pie hole there on Tuesday.
G.S. Patton| 4.21.12 @ 12:58AM
LOL !!!! Thats pretty good.
JFrizzle| 4.20.12 @ 10:28AM
As a reformed/retired smoker from college days, I don't have a problem with the smoking of ganja. I DO have a problem, like the author writes, of blatantly violating a LAW (even if I don't agree with the law). We are a nation of laws, and if we don't follow them then the end result is tyranny. Of course, you could argue that we are already on the verge of tyranny anyways thanks to Obama and his ilk.
aware| 4.21.12 @ 7:37AM
Tell that to Jon Corzine. "Laws" my ass.
'Here we hang the petty thieves and elevate the great one to high office"...Aesop
Todd S| 4.20.12 @ 11:04AM
Troll named Scott is going to be too busy to troll today because it is his favorite day of the year to enjoy some "mother nature".
vitadMD| 4.20.12 @ 12:10PM
Happy 420 or Occupy in Boulder? Either way not the smartest in opposing Prohibition...
Richard| 4.20.12 @ 12:24PM
I wonder what the grounds will look like afterwards. I will bet that most would call themselves "environmentalists".
Paul McGrath| 4.20.12 @ 12:29PM
Interesting that, with all the smoke in the air, none of them are worried about pollution or global warming. Or second hand smoke either. That smoke will go creeping into a baby's room and give it cancer or asthma. Right?
Or are certain kinds of smoke more equal than other kinds of smoke.
Peter| 4.20.12 @ 4:38PM
Why would they give MJ to cancer paitients if it gave them cancer??
Paul McGrath| 4.20.12 @ 6:10PM
Explaining one's joke is giving it the death knell. God, get a clue, will you?
Drunken Sailor| 4.20.12 @ 6:53PM
Paul has no sympathy on you (and who can blame him) as your obviously a pot supporter. They give pot to cancer patients to stimulate the appetite that chemo/radiation kills. Then again, the legal synthectic version does the same and is available everywhere with a RX.
9thID| 4.20.12 @ 12:44PM
Sounds like a great place for a Ron Paul/Gary Johnson rally. Then again, they have their annual PorcFest stoner, gay disco, Timothy Leary event, where they add guns to the mix...
http://tinyurl.com/7yqhozr
333maxwell| 4.20.12 @ 1:44PM
Oh let the kids have their day and then get back to business.
I can't believe adults in the year 2012 are willing to spend their energies and our money even worrying about it., It would be one thing if the gatherings were causing trouble, but historically it is the tamest group of well behaved people imaginable (albeit hungry).
This is an issue that has nothing to do with anything except 'control' simply 'because' ,, and it is expensive and stupid to even be this level of concerned. Another generation of prohibitionist leftovers out to 'send a message'.. willing to use our precious few resources and money to even break a sweat on this nonsense demonstrates a strong disregard for really important issues that go on the back burner when these crusaders get started on this absolute nonsense.
spy| 4.20.12 @ 4:23PM
That's what I was thinking: eveything else in the world going to pot, give these kids a break. Only reinforces the us vs. them, anti-establishment mentality. Instead, let law enforcement devote their time to putting violent criminals behind bars.
Peter| 4.20.12 @ 4:39PM
Well put.
Not Special Ops Bill| 4.20.12 @ 2:19PM
Do you think anybody at the event will complain over secondhand smoke?
Jeff Spicoli| 4.20.12 @ 2:31PM
Dudes on ludes shouldn't drive. Keep your mitts off my weed.
Rick| 4.20.12 @ 7:34PM
hey jeff your pizza just got here!
Mike Hawk| 4.20.12 @ 8:54PM
XXL with funny mushrooms??
solds air max | 4.20.12 @ 10:57PM
Uh Oh !
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 2:59PM
My apologizies to Ross for my getting earliar sidetracked by Clint's STUPIDITY, but we're all human I suppose [though doubtful in his case]. Anyway, back to Ross's [as usual] informative editorial. In my ancient yesteryear at college, it was mostly booze [and lots of it]. Some of us graduated from our individual state of inebriation to buckle down, study, learn and obtain a college degree. The difference with that and what Ross describes is as he states, the status of LEGALITY. Booze is, dope isn't; and the latter's existence should be enforced by the authorities if possible [though again as stated by Ross, someAMBULANCE CHASER would swoop down and provide the incarcerated victim with RIGHTS no doubt. The truly shame of this situation is that there are millions of Chinese, Japanese, Indians etc who are currently instead placing their combined noses into textbooks and research materials and their eventual intellectual prowess will surpass that of these stoned morons fricking away their opportunities of learning [and their residential countries will eventually pass us by accordingly]. The snot-nosers of this country represent our future, and IT DON'T LOOK GOOD FROM WHERE I'M STANDING, that's for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 3:04PM
PS: I lost my previous train of thought perhaps, in neglecting to mention that in my college days of yesteryear, there were boozehounds that stayed that way, pee-peed their opportunity at an education and degree and are most likely working a penal farm today or maybe deceased. The world is a better place in either case. Again the point is the Bible's story of TEN TALENTS given to two individuals.....one wasting his while the other made good use thereof!!!!!!!!!
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 3:04PM
PS: I lost my previous train of thought perhaps, in neglecting to mention that in my college days of yesteryear, there were boozehounds that stayed that way, pee-peed their opportunity at an education and degree and are most likely working a penal farm today or maybe deceased. The world is a better place in either case. Again the point is the Bible's story of TEN TALENTS given to two individuals.....one wasting his while the other made good use thereof!!!!!!!!!
aware| 4.21.12 @ 4:23PM
Uh, if you mean Matthew 25(the only mention of talents in the New Test.), there were 3 individuals and 8 talents involved. Pretty sloppy analogy, Old dude. The guy who got 1 didn't "waste" he didn't multiply, and had a bad attitude about his master. He came back with the 1 talent.
And all 3 were given "according to their abilities". It doesn't say if they, or he, was a drunk or pothead.
And as far as booze "being legal", not in blue states(blue laws, not commiecrat). But that didn't stop either of my grandpappies and neither did Prohibition. So what is your point?
I know several people who made messes of their lives without pot or alcohol. And I know several who are quite successful and smoke pot, too.
The point of the "Drug War", like the "War on Terror", or War on Poverty", is that it allows the State to grow indefinitely without there ever being a "deck of the Missouri" surrender of the "enemy". Don't you know when you're being scammed? Potheads are no threat but waging "war" on them has shredded that constitution you "conservatives" are always claiming to care about.
Clint| 4.21.12 @ 4:29PM
Apparently, Ya Lost Your Mind, Oldefarte.
You Appear To Be Four Years Older Than Dirt & Up To The "r" in Alzheimers.
The Nuse Will Be In To Change Your Adult Pampers.
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 9:08PM
Shazam AWARE and CLINT! What brilliance. OMG, two geniuses together. A spaced out cowboy and a two short short Lewinskier. Made my day! Now here's someone who agrees with you two worthless morons [although at least Maher has a job]:
'...... “Real Time” host Bill Maher has long been a proponent of marijuana legalization, and he has been critical of drug laws in the United States for more than a decade. Even though he donated $1 million to President Barack Obama’s super PAC last month, Maher clearly has some problems with the president’s handling of this particular issue.During the online “Overtime” segment on his Friday night program, Maher read an emailed question that marked April 20, or “4/20,” a day associated in drug culture with the widespread consumption of marijuana. The questioner asked why the topic was a taboo for politicians.
Maher responded by expressing his disappointment in Obama’s failure to make drug legalization a reality.“Why is the legalization of recreational drugs such a third rail in American politics?” Maher said. “Well, that’s certainly a good question. I don’t know — I mean 4/20, such a disappointment what this president said and I thought he was sort of sending out a signal about the second term. You know, a little read in between the lines.”“His statement, as I was saying, you know the beginning of it, was ‘I can understand people’s frustration,’” Maher said. “‘We can have a conversation. We should, about —’ and then at the end, ‘but we’re not going to do that.”......'
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 9:14PM
Hey Clint.....at least I have a 'Mind' to lose, as opposed to someone who's FOREVER STUPID! Excrement, you must be recruiting pot heads like AWARE for your Media Matters causes now huh [or are you simply giving him the Father Ron treatment]????
Oldefarte| 4.21.12 @ 9:22PM
PS Clint, just a few questions for you:
1.Did you graduate [or even attend] college; and was a Catholic institution?
2. What was your GPA?
3.What was your major and minor degree?
4. Did you graduate from a Catholic high school? What about grade school?
5.Were you tuaght by Catholic brothers or nuns, and what religious order were they?
6. Were you ever an altar boy and if so how many years? Were you confirmed?
7. Were you ever a member of say the K of C and if so how many years?
Just what I thought....NO to all of the above!!!!
aware| 4.22.12 @ 7:40AM
Maybe you should go back to being a Republican barker, since you think their sideshow is going to "save" us.
Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 4:51PM
Maybe you should go back to being a snot-nosed, pot-head.....DUMBARS!!!!!!!!
aware| 4.22.12 @ 6:00PM
About the level of wit I was expecting.
While I'm not a druggie or a drug "warrior", between the 2 I'll take the druggie over fascist Police State minions like you.
Clint| 4.22.12 @ 10:47AM
I Pushed Oldefarte's Lapsed Catholic, Ax Grindin' Anti-Catholic Button.
Watch & Learn Deliverance Banjo Pickin' River Sex Inbred Southern Fried Bigot Boy, Oldefarte.
Mike Hawk| 4.22.12 @ 3:11PM
Nay, oldfarte pushed your button. BTW, what is your obsession with 'Deliverance'. Something in there appeals to your prurient interest.
Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 4:50PM
MH: Clint has a thing for Ned Beatty!!!!!!
Clint| 4.22.12 @ 8:21PM
Apparently, Mike Hawk & His Boyfriend Oldefarte Are Two of Those Log Cabin Republicans.
Mike Hawk| 4.22.12 @ 10:16PM
Clint, you have issues, there might be medication that helps, but maybe it's too late.
Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 4:46PM
Hey Clint, push the following [and answer my questions to you also]:
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/.....a-Exposed/
Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 4:47PM
Seems as though BOTH you and Media Matters make use of the racial term 'Israel Firster' quite a bit...why is that??????
Oldefarte| 4.22.12 @ 4:49PM
Whose the 'bigot' now, DA??????
Clint| 4.22.12 @ 8:23PM
Apparently, You Are American Spectator's Second Ranked Lapsed Catholic, Ax Grindin' Anti-Catholic Bigot, Oldefarte.
Clint| 4.22.12 @ 8:28PM
Duuuuuuuhhhhh !
Israel Ain't A Race, Israel Firster Smear Bund Traitor Bastard, Oldefarte.
It's A Middle East Foreign Nation ,Whose National Interests You Israel Firster Smear Bund Traitor Bastards Put Ahead Of United States National Interests, Israel Firster Smear Bund Traitor Bastard, Oldefarte.
Clint| 4.22.12 @ 8:38PM
Talk To The Jewish Liberal ,Who You Are Mad At, M.J. Rosenberg.
Are You Sayin' That You're Both An Anti-Catholic Bigot & An Anti-Semite, Now.
Mike Hawk| 4.22.12 @ 10:33PM
Jehoshaphat, where did this red hot Anti-Semitism of yours come from Clint.
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 12:35AM
It came when he compared weenies in the showers with the guy screwing his girlfriend, Mike.
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 12:46AM
From the Wiki: Adolph Hitler born April 20, 1889, died April 30th, 1945, age 56.
That's it, folks. But one can tell the ambivalence in Clint in that his daddy fought Nazis and he seeks to further the Nazis' work. Just like he calls people chickenhawks and then notes that despite being a Division I varsity athlete in two sports, he never volunteered for the military. (Hell, I applied for a Navy ROTC scholarship as soon as I got my acceptance letter to U of Illinois school of Medicine---I was accepted to TWO US medical schools, by the way) I ended up paying off my $80,000 in student loans in toto in my first full year of private practice. I did not live high on the hog, and still don't.
To answer Oldefarte's questions:
TCU Magna Cum Laude, B.S. Biology, 1984
UTMB, MD 1988.
Kaiser Foundation Hospital Internship in Pediatrics, 1988-1989.
UCLA Residency in Psychiatry 1989-1993.
American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology Certification 1995, recert 2005 with 92% score.
On pot: Marinol is available with subscription for wasting diseases. Smoking weed puts the absorption across the largest blood interface in the body, the lungs. 50-70% of my inpatients are positive for THC when they enter my hospital.
We have enough problem in the Native Community with drugs without legalizing them.
Occam's Tool| 4.23.12 @ 12:50AM
Oh, sorry, Oldefarte: this Jewish kid went to public schools, graduating from Maine East in Park Ridge, Illinois 8/821 class size. SAT: 730 Verbal/690 Math/ACT 33. My MCAT total score was 68, higher than Harvard Med's average: I was accepted to UTMB as an out of state resident.
Dennis | 4.23.12 @ 3:45AM
Well, there is enough smoke there to get the entire town high without them even smoking themselves :D