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richard ryan| 4.13.12 @ 9:21AM

Look, all this talk about the presidency does us no good unless we get a nice majority in the Senate (preferably filibuster-proof). Romney is certainly not a liberal. He will sign the legislation to get this country on track. He will not veto common sense reforms. His record as Mass gov. is comparable to Reagan's in California, arguably more conservative given the liberal legislature he had to deal with.

There is no reason to sit home in this election unless you are prepared for fiscal disaster.

Ryan| 4.13.12 @ 9:53AM

That's what we thought we were getting with Bush, and we never did.

The current problems with crony capitalism were only exacerbated in that era, and they will continue with Romney. I don't see him lowering and simplifying taxes.

JT| 4.13.12 @ 10:31AM

Nobody said some kind of course change was going to happen in one election. Some of the bleeding was stopped in 2010, get back the Senate and then start pruning the limbs of Rinos in targeted elections from that point on.
I am no Romney lover but anybody who says he is no different than the Anti-American Communist Che' wannabe is in short crazy. The Rino party needs to be gutted, it isn't going to happen in one or two elections, its a process thats going to take time, patience and perseverence. If somebody wants to stay home and pleasure themselves with a Ron Paul photo instead, go ahead. Just stop and think were we would be now if this Communist still had House control like 08 to 10. That should be a cold hard slap in the face. The strategy is simple, nuke one party and gut the other, its gonna take time.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:33PM

It will never happen at all as long as principled conservatives whore themselves for RINOs.

A Sphincter Says What?| 4.14.12 @ 2:46AM

Hear, hear. They just don't get it. A Romney win just slows the train from going off the inevitable cliff ahead. An Obama win gets us there faster. No difference in destination.

beebop2| 4.14.12 @ 8:44AM

So ... just so I understand what passes for "logic," in your statement .... Better to let 0bama finish us off in the next three years (since it's his "last election") than give the economic drivers in this nation a chance during a republican administration .... and this makes sense to you how?

W| 4.14.12 @ 11:14AM

bee, your'e trying to use logic with an Obma troll. Waste of time. They want us to lose so they're polluting this site all week and will do so until election. Usual crap: " I am a conservative but I can't vote for Romney and it is better for the country to get ruined so we can build a new party,"
or some variation thereof. They are not conservatives or Republicans so just laugh and mock them.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:30PM

Romney is a liberal.

You and W and the other RINOs are engaging in blatant fantasy that Romney will govern as a conservative---some of you are delusional enough to think he'll be more conservative than Reagan----despite his 28 year liberal record.

Which I keep beating you over the heads with for the simple pleasure of watching you try to ignore it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1bJOpYUqE

And since so many of you can't seem to read, we post plenty of videos of Romney passionately embracing left wing policy disaster after left wing policy disaster. Hard to ignore your own lying eyes, no matter how delusional you are.

Of course, since a whole bunch of you MittBots are liberals, your discomfort over this may simply be that a conservative tells the truth about Your Man Mitt.

Don't know which it is with you--but then, I don't care either. Facts are facts.

W| 4.14.12 @ 2:26PM

Teflon
You are an idiot.
Have fun voting for Obama.
Have fun tearing down Romney.
Try saying positive stuff about your candidate Obama.
You have nothing to say, nothing to add, keep playing with your little tests and you tube.
You are not worth responding to because you are an Obama troll.
You are only worth mocking.
Now go take another test and play with your fellow Obama trolls, Moron.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 4:36PM

Has W ever posted a fact here? Anybody? Bueller?

Better get over to the bathouse, W---you know Mr Rove doesn't like waiting.

Comenius| 4.15.12 @ 11:54PM

We got control of the House. What happened? A RINO, that would be the coward Boehner, has the victorious 2010 Tea Party conservatives sitting on their hands while he goes and makes secret deals with Obama during the several budget negotiations. Conservatives win, RINOS lose. When will the establishment Republicans learn? We now have John McCain II and the GOP is ectatic. Amazing.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:32PM

Why not listen to the man himself, Richard?

Will Not Vote For Rmoney| 4.13.12 @ 1:16PM

They won't listen Teflon. That is the point & why nothing will change if this man is elected. Might as well elect Arlen Specter. Mitt Rmoney may not be Barack Obama, but he is Arlen Specter, only younger. The GOP want nothing to do with conservatism. If they did they wouldn't keep lining up behind these northeast liberal Republicans like Rmoney. An alternative conservative party needs to emerge after the liberal Republicans sink the SS Stupid Party with candidates like Rmoney. Take care Teflon & God bless you & your family.

Richard| 4.13.12 @ 1:33PM

If you are a democrat just say so. Quit lying that you are a republican--you are not or else you would vote Romney. I would say you are a fool inviting socialism to America.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 1:39PM

I was a lifelong Republican until Santorum dropped out; now I am an Independent. I voted for Bush I, Alan Keyes, Bush II (twice), and McCain.

Now admit you're a damned idiot who is completely ignorant of Romney's actual record but believe he's a true conservative because Karl Rove tells you so.

JayDick| 4.13.12 @ 5:02PM

Your choices are Romney and Obama. Pick one and stop whining. Staying home on election day is a vote for Obama. If he gets reelected, you will have no reason to complain if you stay home or vote for him.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:31PM

My choice, unlike you drones who think the Magic (-R) makes somebody a conservative, is to vote or stay home.

Staying home looks good. Of course, that will cost the GOP on the downticket too, but eggs and omelettes you know.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 3:57PM

I was a lifelong Republican; I submitted my registration to become an independent once Santorum dropped out.

I voted for Bush I, Alan Keyes, Bush II (twice) and John McCain. I voted a straight GOP ticket on the downticket and voted every election.

As you can see elsewhere in this thread, I am to the right of Michelle Bachmann and Jim DeMint---but not Bob!---according to Grosseclose's PQ test.

This means I'm very likely more conservative than you are---as if an unwillingness to vote for a Massachusetts liberal didn't prove it.

Especially since that Mass liberal brought socialism to the Bay State.

idalily| 4.13.12 @ 5:07PM

Teflon, I understand your frustration, but please, I beg you, do NOT stay home on election day. If Romney is the nominee, vote for him. Why? Because of the SCOTUS. If Romney wins, we have at least the CHANCE to keep the SCOTUS out of socialist reach for awhile longer, long enough (I pray) for true conservatives to drive into American brains that we can't afford to be utopia.

BTW, Romney did not take liberalism to the Bay State. It was already there. In spades.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:11PM

idalily-

Romney doesn't pick conservative justices:
http://www.amycontrada.com/Romney_s_Judiciary.html

And I grew up right next door---Weld was more conservative than Romney---and he wasn't conservative.

Brubaker| 4.13.12 @ 8:28PM

Okay, you really don't like Romney. What are your choices? You could vote for Obama, but that doesn't sound likely. You could just stay home and not vote, but that's effectively voting for Obama. Finally, you could conceivably vote for some third-party candidate, but that's yet another way to vote for Obama.

I don't care much for Romney either, but I'll sure be voting for him. I just can't imagine another four years of Obama. Romney won't be all that I'd like in a president, but he really can't be as bad as Obama.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:32PM

Why don't you familiarize yourself with Romney's record first, Brubaker?

Romney is a liberal. I don't vote for liberals.

Do you?

beebop2| 4.14.12 @ 8:46AM

So you think STAYING HOME is what the founders would have wanted? That Michelle Bachman is going to throw a hissy fit and NOT VOTE? You may think you're a conservative, but you are as childish as any 0bama supporter likely to GO TO THE POLLS ...

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:33PM

The Founders opposed tyranny and mob rule. Now quit invoking history you don't understand---you're embarrassing yourself.

Read Burke's "Reflections on the Revolution in France" and learn something.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 1:40PM

The MittBots are a lost cause and always have been---they have no principle save power.

Our fellow conservatives who are truly ignorant of Romney's record and buying the line the MittBots sell them---they can be reached.

We'll need them for the Tea Party.

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 5:45PM

Finally, idiot, you said something INTELLIGENT for a change....now open your GD earlobes and LISTEN TO HIS WORDS:
'...Romney: Obama Limits Freedom, Opportunity Friday, April 13, 2012 04:06 PM
By: Henry J. ReskePresident Barack Obama is expanding the role of government and limiting freedom and opportunity for Americans, GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney said at the National Rifle Association convention in St. Louis.
In his remarks, Romney noted that the framework of law created by the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution was the source of the country’s greatness.
“It has generated unparalleled opportunity and prosperity,” he said. “Our Founders understood this, which is why they created a system of government that is limited. This President is moving us away from our Founders’ vision. Instead of limited government, he is leading us toward limited freedom and limited opportunity.”
Romney said the U.S. economy is “fueled by freedom” and driven by free people and free enterprise.“The Obama administration’s assault on our economic freedom is the principal reason why the recovery has been so tepid — why it couldn’t meet their projections, let alone our expectations. The President's assault on economic freedom begins with his tax hikes,” he said.“By their very nature, taxes reduce our freedom. Their only role in a free economy should be to fund services that are absolutely essential, such as national security, education, and the care of those who cannot care for themselves. And, yet, President Obama has proposed raising the marginal tax rate from 35 percent to 40 percent. The Vice President has proposed a new global business tax. Medical device companies are soon to be subject to a new tax on revenues. And the President is now touring the country, touting a new tax on investment and the wealthy.”
Another burden on business is regulation, Romney said, noting that the Dodd-Frank law governing banking is an “848-page behemoth.”“Under President Obama, bureaucrats are insinuating themselves into every corner of our economy, undermining economic freedom,” he said. “They prevent drilling rigs from going to work in the Gulf. They keep coal from being mined. They impede the reliable supply of natural gas. They tell farmers what their children can and can't do to help on the farm.
“Will Rogers famously said that he worried whenever Congress was in session. Today, our freedom is never safe — because unelected, unaccountable regulators are always on the prowl. And under President Obama, they are multiplying. The number of federal employees has grown by almost 150,000 under this president.”Romney said the rampant regulation puts the American Dream at risk by stifling those with ideas.“If we continue along this path, we’ll spend our lives filling out forms, complying with excessive regulations and pleading with political appointees for waivers, subsidies, and permission” he said. “That path erodes freedom. It deadens the entrepreneurial spirit. And it hurts the very people it’s supposed to help.”
The Obama administration assault on freedom includes religious freedom through its efforts to force Catholic schools and hospitals to provide birth control as part of their health plan coverage and personal freedoms with Obamacare. He also charged that Obama has created new laws that burden lawful gun owners.Romney warned that in a second term Obama “would be unrestrained by the demands of re-election.” “In his first term, we’ve seen the president try to browbeat the Supreme Court,” Romney said. “In a second term, he would remake it. Our freedoms would be in the hands of an Obama Court, not just for four years, but for the next 40. That must not happen.“As President, I will uphold the rule of law — and put America back on the path toward the Founders’ vision. I don’t want to transform America; I want to return America to the principles that made this nation great.”.........'

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:12PM

Except Romney only nominates liberal judges:

A Sphincter Says What?| 4.14.12 @ 2:53AM

Hear, hear, Teflon. Again, the assumption that Romney is going to nominate conservative judges because he has an R next to his name again shows the ignorance of RomBots. They really don't even know what Romney stands for--the just believe "he's the only one who can beat Obama"...because Karl told 'em so.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:34PM

All we can do is point out the facts. The emotional nonsense is all on their side.

idalily| 4.16.12 @ 11:55AM

Fine. Let Obama win and nominate another Stotomeyer to replace Kennedy and another Kagan to replace Ginsberg, and let the US become a constitutionally mandated socialist state. By staying home, you will be to blame for that. At least with Romney, we have a CHANCE. Do you not see that?

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 1:37PM

Richard, did you even look at his record? In addition to socialized medicine, Romney jacked taxes up (called 'em fees), appointed liberal judge after liberal judge, extended abortion, and defended gun control laws.

Would you at least take a moment and look at the man's record? Then you can tell us why everything's different now.

Gerald| 4.13.12 @ 3:49PM

What makes you think Romney will have free reign to do what ever he wants? He can be controlled by the senate and the house once we take over.
Do I like Romney? Hell No!!
BUT I DESPISE OBAMA!!! The man is a despicable lying reprobate!!

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 3:54PM

Gerald, can you tell me:

a. which GOP Senate reined in a GOP president;

b. which current GOP senator(s) will do any such thing?

They won't even fight OBAMA.

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 5:50PM

Moron, go look at Obama's record. Oh wait, you can't because he has it sealed up. His college record, his law school record, his birth certificate, whatever. He's a GD fraud and that's who you'll re-elect. You and other idiots like yourself. No one [repeat no one] has leg tingles over Romney, but compared to Obama? You're a damned fool!!!!!!!!!

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:12PM

Except Romney's a liberal.

beebop2| 4.14.12 @ 8:48AM

So your choices (according to you) are a liberal or a communist .... don't be a fool. We're not. Professional politicians have driven anyone with principles from the field of play.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:35PM

Mitt Romney is a liberal.

He says so himself.

http://townhall.com/columnists....._house_sop

I have plenty of these, although this is the best short compilation.

You MittBot drones are too frightened even to look.

That's how brave and smart you are.

Mimi| 4.13.12 @ 12:04PM

What a fantastic piece of LUCK dealt Romney....and the attempt to denigrate Ann by this Whitehouse frequent hanger on Hillary Rosen insulting comment..." She Never worked a DAY in her life". Incredible ! She just insulted all women. Ann raising 5 incredible son's and all the other aspects of helping her husband through the years!
Mitt Romney had Rick Santorum drop out and then the unexpected "GIFT" that will go down in History as the meanie Dems insult the at home moms...which is all or most of American women.
I myself had 8 and was " HOME" working my fingers to the bone for 20 years, then "OUT" working for a paycheck and 6 out of 8 have masters degrees with thathelp! Twenty in...twenty two out . The kids turned out A+ and I give myself a BIG GOLD STAR for all that work and revel in it....as sure as others just like me!
Romney is so so but ANN is the Sweetheart ...she's gonna win him the Whitehouse! Hillary is a goner...over....and so is Obama!
Latching on to Romney won't be so hard anymore for us diehard Conservatives...With Ann it will become easier! DUMB DEMS !!!!

Ed Norris| 4.15.12 @ 4:28PM

Couldn't have said it better Mimi, I don't agree with Romney in every way, but that's fine. As for Anne, well, I am not Romney's fan, but I agree with you that I respect the choice of women like Ann. If she wants to be a full-time Mom, that's fine with me. In fact, my mother was full-time until I was a little grown-up and she got into being a schoolteacher like she wanted to.

Additionally, the irony about Rosen is the fact that the president which she works for has a wife who plays the role of mother in the family quite well, does she want to talk about that. I would have a hard time thinking that Romney's wife never did work, as even my own Mom did some work, not neccessarily the most full-time work available, but she did do it.

As for Romney, as much as he wasn't my first choice, I don't mind voting for a guy who for the past year at least has what it takes to speak as an address to a general audience, not just Christian values, not just a great danger, but speaks plenty to sound optimistic, and addresses plenty that people not of his faith can address to.

Unless Obama, I don't seevery much likelihood of Romney acting incredibly divisive while in office.

I do know that my issues and protests will still be raised on issues where I don't agree, but he is the best available choice we have right now, and he could at least give us the attitude adjustment we need for the White House.

PJ| 4.13.12 @ 10:36AM

Jack,
I don't agree w/everything that Ron Paul believes in as you do. Yet, I admire his projected optimism & his matter-of-fact answers to difficult questions (not that I agree w/those answers.) He reminds me of my grandfather & a little bit of Reagan.

That said, I tend to agree more w/Romney's ideas. And he too reminds me of Reagan w/his projected optimism too. Romney is ethical & moral ( & I'm not Mormon) & that will guide him to make good decisions. Unlike Obama who many rational & educated people, including me, believe he is evil.

I don't think we should expect much from our elected federal officials. The govn't isn't set up to make major changes quickly. I believe how Obamacare became law was done unethically & I bet illegally.

If Romney works with Congress, much can be done. He has a history of working & compromising with the far-out-left legislature of MA. I can tell you that he has laid some groundwork to improve MA's economy when he was governor. MA's economy is doing much better than my state of CT which has a Democratic governor & super majority Democratic led legislature.

IMHO, anyone who is elected president in 2012, but Obama or a Democrat, will improve this country's outlook on every level.

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 11:00AM

Yes.

The world was a better place because Bush 41 beat Dukakis; it was a better place when Bush 43 beat Gore, and Kerry.

ANY Republican is better than ANY Democrat.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:35PM

I'd take Harry Truman over Richard Nixon or Gerald Ford in a walk.

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 1:13PM

Not me.

Truman was way too soft on Communism. He gave away Eastern Europe at Potsdam, and lost China. He also ignored evidence that the Federal Government, particularly the State Dept., was crawling with Communist spies, including Alger Hiss, Lauchlin Currie, Harry Hopkins, and others.

Truman is another over-rated Democrat whose reputation is built on myth-making.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 1:44PM

Truman fought the Communists in Korea, including the Chinese. Nixon went to the Chinese hat in hand, but at least the aim of breaking the Communist bloc was good.

Ike's government was filled with Soviet spies too--as most administrations have been. Bush and Obama's have had no shortage of Chinese spies uncovered from time to time too.

Truman's domestic agenda was less left wing than Nixon's. He may have been overrated, but by God Nixon turned out to be a disaster beyond at least salvaging something in Vietnam.

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 2:26PM

Just 'cuz I enjoy schoolin' you...

Truman fired MacArthur because MacArthur wanted to take the fight TO the Communist Chinese, not just fight them in Korea.

Among the most notorious Soviet spies in high-level positions in the Truman administration -- now proved absolutely, beyond question by the Soviet cables -- were Alger Hiss at the State Department; Harry Dexter White, assistant secretary of the Treasury Department, later appointed to the International Monetary Fund by President Truman; Lauchlin Currie, personal assistant to President Roosevelt and White House liaison to the State Department under both Roosevelt and Truman; Laurence Duggan, head of the Latin American Desk at the State Department; Frank Coe, US representative on the International Monetary Fund; Solomon Adler, senior Treasury Department official; Klaus Fuchs, top atomic scientist; and Duncan Lee, senior aide to the head of the OSS.

Harry Truman not only ignored strong evidence that Alger Hiss and Harry Dexter White were agents of the Soviet Union and thus dedicated to the overthrow of the United States and Soviet victory in the Cold War, but also actually advanced their careers.

Moreover, his administration was honeycombed with secret Communist agents. And when Truman was advised of the existence of the Venona documents, which showed the extent of Soviet penetration of the government, he allegedly dismissed the decoded Soviet cables as a "fairy story," just as he called the charges against Hiss a "red herring."

Dedicated anti-Communists don�t defend Communist subversion of the United States government. Truman did. He may have been a foe of armed Soviet aggression and dragged America into a war he would not allow his generals to win, but the record shows he was soft on Communist subversion within his administration.

You're in over your head, and sinking fast...

Now thank me for the free education, dummy.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 3:10PM

MacArthur had it coming and had you actually served in the military, Dr Coward, you'd know why he did.

You might want to look up how Aldrich Ames was handled. Or any of the other spies since Hiss.

The evidence against Hiss wasn't clear until Truman was gone---the Venona decrypts connected the dots in the 90s.

And hey douchebag, you have to talk about NIXON in comparison.

How much of Nixon's sorry ass record should I throw in your face?

Let's start with Chinese appeasement. Let's end with the way he bailed out of Vietnam and left our allies to rot in Communist dungeons, like JFK did our Cuban allies at the Bay of Pigs.

Shall we mention what Watergate did to GOP prospects for the next decade?

JP| 4.13.12 @ 3:39PM

Whittaker Chambers provided all the proof the prosecutors needed.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 3:59PM

Unfortunately not, JP. While there was enough to convince you or I---and indeed a jury in Hiss' perjury case years later---at the time it wasn't. That pumpkin deal finally helped---but the Venona decrypts made it crystal clear and they didn't come until Truman was long gone.

Anthony M| 4.13.12 @ 10:41PM

Can't agree with you on Truman, we were in a great position to take out the red Chinese and could have saved the lives of millions. Nixon had his faults, but if not for the communist sympathizers in the US, the Viet Minh were ready to sue for peace when Nixon began his bombing campaign. By the way, South Vietnam didn't fall until 1975, Nixon was long gone.

W| 4.14.12 @ 11:20AM

Anthony,
I agree. South Vietnam fell primarily because the Dem Congress in 1974, led by Teddy the Swimmer, cut off all aid to South Vietnam effective Jan 1975. In Jan 1975 North Vietnam invaded South Vietnam and won by March.
Of course the Obama trolls masquerading as conservatives thought that was a good idea because it then led to the election of Carter who could further damage our country.

Occam's Tool| 4.16.12 @ 2:17AM

Dr. Right: An important point of Truman's apologia on Alger Hiss can be found in Plain Speaking. Truman was a Mickey Mantle of Presidents---swung for the fences but struck out a lot. He was NO James K Polk, who is actually, next to Washington, Ronnie, and Lincoln (in that order) my favorite President---got everything he promised done, spanked the Mexicans, enlarged the US, did it all in one term, and then didn't hang around like Carter but had the decency to die quickly.

Truman wanted Socialized Medicine. His domestic agenda was to the Left of Nixon's. Please.

JayDick| 4.13.12 @ 5:04PM

Truman gave the labor unions everything they wanted and more.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:13PM

Nixon implemented price controls.

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 5:54PM

Truman never ran against Nixon or Ford, fool! You're comparing apples to oranges, and different eras. Truman would be strung up from a tree by the current radical Democrats. It's gonna be Romney versus Obama [and not Truman, not Paul, not Santorum] Wake up idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:14PM

Hey illiterate scumbag-

The statement that the other idiot made was he'd take "any Republican" over "any Democrat". I'm educating you infantile believers in the magic (-R) that that just isn't so.

Vern Crisler| 4.13.12 @ 11:23AM

You think this snake should stay positive? After all the lies and negative campaigning he instigated or approved of during the primaries against Newt. Forgetaboutit. He deserves what he gets from the cobras on the Obama team.

Bubba T. | 4.13.12 @ 11:32AM

Haven't seen it mentioned, but has anyone noticed the decrease in Ron Paul promoters these days? Seems most every day, the Spectator had about a bazillion or so posts from the cabin dwellers of Northern Appalachia who took time-out from their banjo pickin' to post the daily pitches saying "Ron's the One" and "Meeting at a Brokered Convention."

Anyone heard from these folks lately?

I don't know, maybe they're still around and just taking a timeout. Then again, maybe they had an appointment at the dentist. That's probably it. I figure by now, the tooth probably needs a little work.

Keep smilin', Buford!

Drunken Sailor| 4.13.12 @ 11:52AM

There still there Bubba, Now they just call anyone that is going to vote for Mitt a mittbot. Never mind that he may not have been their first choice. Just the fact that they would rather vote for him, then sit at home, feeling pompous and cry makes them a mindless drone.

You know, the same people that think simply putting on person in the Presidents seat is going to undo decades of liberalism. They can't see the bigger picture. Sure Romney is not the most conservative guy but the smarter strategy is to get Obama out of office and spend the rest of out energy on changing the Republican party to a more conservative party. That works best succeeds from the ground up. Not the top down.

W| 4.13.12 @ 1:45PM

DW,
I agree with you intelligent comment.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 4:00PM

Except that was the same thing that was supposed to happen after McCain went down in 2008.

The Tea Party did its part. What'd the GOP RINO Establishment do?

Drunken Sailor| 4.13.12 @ 4:48PM

Maybe so, but come Nov 7th 2012, if Obama still wins my conscience will be clear knowing I did my best to support removing him from office. Years later I can look my children/grandchildren in the eye and tell them I did my best.

Will those of you that sit on the sideline be able to do the same?

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:16PM

Sure--I voted for McLame in 2008 when so many of you RINOs voted for Obama because it was tony to be "historic".

In the primary, I supported and/or gave money to half the Republican field---the conservative half.

Been there, done that.

Now that it's liberal v. liberal, I'm out. You picked this jackass---you elect him.

I'll vote the downticket conservatives---presuming there are any.

W| 4.14.12 @ 11:24AM

Tef,
I thought you respected McCain because he is a war hero and was hanging by his arms in a prison cell for five years. So you show your respect by calling him McLame? If you disagree with his politics you do not have to call someone who sacrificed five years of his life and his health McLame.

I agree with Dr. Right's assessment of you. You are a hypocrite.

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 5:57PM

McCain was beat by the STUPIDS [ie independents etc who baught into Obama's H&C BS and WE NEED THIS NICE LITTLE BLACK HARVARD LAWYER AS POTUS]. How that' now working for ya, huh???????????????

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:16PM

And no shortage of you RINOs.

Occam's Tool| 4.13.12 @ 12:24PM

I'm just happy that, except for Jack, most of them are gone. At the County convention that I was at, we had this asshole woman who kept on calling for points of order---pissed everyone off. Turned out she was a Paulbot. Did not help the Paulbot cause.

No, I preferred Santorum. But I'm going to work for Romney, because Obama is a nightmare that we will not survive if we have 4 more years of him. And, perhaps the Horse will learn to sing.

Occam's Tool| 4.13.12 @ 12:19PM

You're a rich guy, Jack, a former CEO. Cataract surgery shouldn't be that expensive.

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 1:14PM

...and a "Proud 4-F"! Don't forget that!

Drunken Sailor| 4.13.12 @ 3:03PM

Hell OC, wouldn't do him any good. He gouged his eyes out years ago in a fit of rage pious rage.

Occam's Tool| 4.16.12 @ 2:24AM

You know, I love you guys. Have a good night, and I hope you guys had a great weekend.

Myself, I got plenty of sleep this weekend, and learned that Modafanil can be used to treat cocaine and methamphetamine addiction by attenuating craving. I also learned mechanisms of drug craving, and some suggestions for countering it. Very useful stuff to know here in rural Native American country (meth, cocaine, high potency MJ, alcohol and oxycontin abuse are endemic---not epidemic, endemic). It's generic, and in six months will go wide based generic and become extremely cheap (the first 6 months of generic is always given to just one company and the prices don't go down until wide based generic occurs 6 months after). And I got to review your guys' stuff. And play with my wife and kids a little.

All in all, a very productive "weekend off."

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 1:36PM

The RED states are sucking off the BLUE States, and vote against their own economic interests. http://voices.washingtonpost.c.....ipoff.html

Republicans have destroyed the American Dream for the 99% to support the 1%, and for some reason so many still vote for them. It makes no sense.

George True| 4.13.12 @ 2:39PM

You are an idiot. You come here spouting vitriol, and parroting leftist false narratives. You say things that are demonstrably and provably false.

Now you are parroting the latest 99%/1% false narrative. You never have anything intelligent to offer. You simply regurgitate the hateful bile that your leftist overlords disseminate.

Such inane drivel will not change the mind of even a single person who actually THINKS. Go away, troll.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 3:02PM

Did you bother to look at the facts? I didn't think so.... typical right-wing misdirection. But - it doesn't change the facts - the RED states are sucking on the tits of the BLUE states while complaining about freedom from government control. You can't get away from the mama that feeds you ... num, num enjoy your sucking George.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 3:03PM

I may be an idiot, but at least I know that I can mooch off of you idiots and get half of whatever you make. You are greedy if you think it belongs to you. It is half mine.

Tim the Enchanter| 4.13.12 @ 3:47PM

Tell it to the Kenyan. Maybe he'll listen.

W| 4.13.12 @ 4:45PM

Purp
I will need your real name and ss number to claim as a dependent on my tax return which is due monday. You do know what is a tax return? For people who work?

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 4:57PM

Tell it to the real one who wrote that crap. You should know me better than that. Seriously, are you that dumb you fall for an adolescent trick like using someone else's handle? Are you doing this W? No matter, it doesn't even pinch.
Oh, and income tax? I'm positive I paid more in tax than you earn, so send me back my money and stop sucking on the Blue States tits.

W| 4.13.12 @ 5:34PM

Purp
It sounded like you. No I don't use others' names, only mine, and I would never, ever,ever use yours.
OK, how much did you pay?

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 4:54PM

Well, another typical right wing trick - using my name - whatsamatta? You got no balls to own up to your own remarks. No wonder the right wing can't keep the country safe.

albert constantine jr.| 4.13.12 @ 11:07PM

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 2:03PM
I may be an idiot

Thank you for clarifying that you didn't really write this, as for a moment, I feared we agreed on something.

W| 4.14.12 @ 11:27AM

Albert
If Purp calls you a name take is as a compliment that he disagrees with you.
Do purp and the Obama trolls remind you of Lt. Chapman? Clueless.

RonRonDoRon| 4.13.12 @ 4:58PM

I read the article. If taxing/spending is skewed in favor of red states, would you support less taxing/spending? It would disproportionately benefit the blue states.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 10:42PM

As the article said you're voting the wrong way in the RED States, if you believe what you profess to believe.

From the Desk of Media Matters| 4.14.12 @ 12:08PM

Penelope Maddow Schultz Wasserman Schultz Rosen Dunn Olbermann Matthews O'Donnell Sharpton Wright Jackson Klein Krugman Dowd,

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots know a schincter says "As the article said you're voting the wrong way in the RED States, if you believe what you profess to believe".

Stop embarrassing humanity you idiot.

- MM staff

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 5:59PM

The 1%-Republicans financially support your 99% [which are all on WELFARE] since Republicans are the only ones that are known as..............TAXPAYERS!!!!!!!

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 10:42PM

You're really not that stupid are you? Unless you are Romneyesque in money - YOU ARE in the 99% you dolt.

beebop2| 4.14.12 @ 1:08PM

No. See? That's where you are wrong. I don't have to be in the one percent to know that what is being trotted out by the odious frog in the white house is just plain LIMITING to the upward (and downward) mobility in a free capitalist soceity. Long after I am dust I pray that the nation that gave me the tools necessary to succeed is still a free republic. (not "free" as in the ows nonsense!)

mames| 4.13.12 @ 10:02PM

IGNORE IT You mean like Dole, Bush and McCain did? Don't ignore! Fight back with relentless facts. But alas Romney is just another empty suit, another RINO as Tucker seems to be. AND WHAT'S UP WITH THE FRIGGIN SCARF?!

Bill| 4.14.12 @ 5:32PM

Jack in Wi, my friend, Romney will destroy Obama in the debate and the ballot. Obama will unleash his union thugs and Ad-bombs, but it ain't gonna work this time. We've seen all his tricks in the mid-term election, and yet they all failed. Obama is doomed.

Kitty | 4.13.12 @ 8:06AM

Who would have thought that the first Romney to be attacked by Team O would have been his wife, Ann? I want to thank Obama, and his lovely minion, because when they attacked Ann they made it a little bit easier for me to vote for Ann's husband in November.

Teaghan| 4.13.12 @ 8:25AM

What a gift, eah Kitty? And I bet there will be more of that as they begin to see that their boy is about to be shown the back door. They won't be able to help themselves.

W| 4.13.12 @ 8:44AM

Not surprising they attacked Ann Romney. These lefties have a low opinion of women who stay at home to raise a family. You remember liberals used to say that a woman's work at home was just as important as working outside the home, and that the woman's work at home should count as earnings for Social Security? Now liberals are totalitarian lefties, and only a liberal's work at home is important.

Con Chef (NB) | 4.13.12 @ 8:58AM

Concerning the flap on Mrs. Romney, all I can say is that these people are un-freaking-real. Soul-less. That's about the best way to describe them. So what Mrs. Romney has done is no big deal, huh?

Then tell me why I should laud a welfare mother who won't work, stays at home & collects her gub-mint check & other assorted taxpayer-funded goodies, "raises" her 13 out-of-wedlock kids (notice the quotes around "raises") the same way as she lives, smokes blunts, drinks & battles whatever disease?

THOSE are the people we should laud, right, Ms. Rosen? Gimme a damned break! This JINO harpy makes me ashamed to be Jewish.

Con Chef (NB) | 4.13.12 @ 9:01AM

An EXCELLENT Article by Michelle Malkin on This Very Subject:

"Real Moms of the GOP versus White House SOP"

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 1:42PM

Michelle Malkin, Really? Ha.

George True| 4.13.12 @ 2:42PM

Yeah, Purp, Michelle Malkin.....REALLY.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 3:03PM

the Shill for Fixed News - yeah, she's a reliable source.

RonRonDoRon| 4.13.12 @ 5:03PM

Compared to whom? Maddow? Ed Schultz?

I won't bother to make up a childish name for MSNBC, because it doesn't further the argument.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 10:43PM

Well, you made me laugh ... gotcha.

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:01PM

You were no doubt hoping for MICHELLE MY BELLE THE MOUCHE, perhaps????????

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 10:43PM

Who are you? Weird....

W| 4.13.12 @ 9:22AM

ConChef
Rosen's religion is liberalism and not Judaism.

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 11:01AM

Rosen is just jealous because Mitt's wife is hotter than her girlfriend...

Con Chef (NB) | 4.13.12 @ 11:05AM

ABSOLUTELY correct, my friend. I think the ole harpy is just jealous of Mrs. Romney. After all, most of liberalism is predicated on jealousy. Why else would we have such terms as "income equality?"

W| 4.13.12 @ 12:25PM

ConChef and Dr. Right
Help me out.. Wasn't there another lefty named Hillary, looks a lot like this Hilary, who said she wasn't going to waste her life staying home, baking cookies, standing by her man, blah, blah. Is there a pattern here with these Hillaries? What happened to the first Hillary, didn't she stand by her man?

Gary B| 4.13.12 @ 10:39AM

Just for the fun of it, let's compare the help staff between Ann and Michelle.

W| 4.13.12 @ 12:34PM

Better yet, let us compare who pays for Ann's vacations, food bill, clothing, etc. and who pays for Michelle's kobe hamburgers, dates in Manhattan, and weekly parties.

TrueBlue | 4.13.12 @ 3:19PM

You forgot the trip to Spain and frequest excursions to Hawaii.

Tim the Enchanter| 4.13.12 @ 3:49PM

Vegas! What about Vegas?

W| 4.13.12 @ 4:46PM

I was feeling ok until you guys reminded me as I do my tax returns.

Gary B| 4.13.12 @ 10:38AM

Just for the fun of it, let's compare vacations between Ann and Michelle.

Anthony| 4.13.12 @ 11:37AM

Just for the fun of it, let's compare who has the real husband, as opposed to an imposter pretending to be hetrosexual.
Just remember Van Jones' recent oddball comment about Obozo and homosexuality.

Gary B| 4.13.12 @ 11:51AM

Compared to regular Americans, Obama is a spoon fed, sideshow freak. On his own, he'd starve to death.

SUBVET| 4.13.12 @ 3:18PM

Who is Reggie Love.................

Drunken Sailor| 4.13.12 @ 3:26PM

Answer: Obama's Boy Toy on the down- low

Occam's Tool| 4.13.12 @ 12:25PM

Ann Romney seems like a class act. I think I might write the Romney website and see if she has suggestions for books for young riders. My daughter is HORSE Crazy.

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 4:14PM

Apparently, That's Because Her Old Man Is A Horse's Ass & Crazy To Boot.

Tell Her To Read: "Forty Years In The Saddle " By Colonel Redass.

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:03PM

What about reading your biography.....'''''I'M A MEDIA MATTERS PROSTITUTE'''''''

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 10:55PM

What About Reading Yout Biography: Inbred Gender Confused Deliverance Banjo Picker In The RINO-CINO Romney Parade.

Occam's Tool| 4.16.12 @ 2:27AM

Clint: as I said before, you are a scumbag who stoops to insult an eight year old girl. With every action you take, and every thing that you do, you show more and more scumbaggedness.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 1:40PM

Team Obama didn't attack her ... that's a bald-faced lie - but you can go with it... you have nothing else.
A filthy rich woman, yeah, that's good model to follow ... all women will be able to relate to her.

W| 4.13.12 @ 1:48PM

Purp
There you go again showing your envy of anyone who earnms more money than you. Would you call Hillary Rodham a filthy rich woman, how about Michelle Obama or Nancy Pelosi, are they filthy rich women?

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 2:51PM

I see no rebuttal of the lie ... of course, because you couldn't. It was and is a lie. The Obama campaign had nothing to do with a CNN pundit's remarks. Not like Romney's campaign staffer calling for Etch-a-Sketch to start the fall campaign.
Oh, I see, go ahead, bring Mama Grizzly out of hibernation - she helped McCain soooo much - Wonder if she can still see Russia from her house? Hmmmm.....

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 3:05PM

And maybe she still thinks there are 58 states and that they speak Austrian in Austria. What idiots you guys are.

irish19| 4.13.12 @ 3:34PM

Actually, it was your boy zero who referred to 57 states and the Austrian language.
And I'd call it an attack when someone says I have no right to speak out on something because of my economic situation.

W| 4.13.12 @ 4:50PM

Purp
There are 60 states. Obama said he visited 57 and had three to go. Don't forget to vote on December 4, and tell all your fellow parasites on the public dole.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 5:00PM

You should know, sucking on the BLUE States tits as you do ...

From the Desk of Media Matters| 4.13.12 @ 11:47PM

Penelope-Putz Pansy-Pink Maddow-Pelosi,

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots know Ezra Klein is notoriously discredited and a bigger joke than even you.

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots know the discredited joke Ezra Klein cited something called thefourthbranch that is even a bigger joke than the discredited Ezra Klein.

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots know the quote 'map' unquote is a joke.

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots would like to see the data behind the quote 'map' unquote but can't because there isn't any.

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots know if the quote 'map' unquote wasn't a blatant lie it still wouldn't have anything to do with anything anyway.

Our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots wonder what point you think you're making with your fourthbranch quote 'map' unquote from the discredited joke Ezra Klein and have a bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrot pool going.

Our bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots pool consists of bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots drawing words from a jar at random.

Our bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrot pool winner is the randomly drawn words strung together most resembling your highly anticipated answer to what the discredited joke Ezra Klein's cited fourthbranch whatever that is quote 'map' unquote has to do with anything.

Stop discrediting the human race.

- MM staff

Calvin| 4.13.12 @ 1:53PM

That is no way to talk about Rosen.

George True| 4.13.12 @ 2:50PM

You don't even realize how intelligence challenged your comment reveals you to be.

How about Hillary Clinton, filth stinking rich, and she never had a real job in her life. How about Nancy Pelosi, worth hundreds of millions, who jets across the country every week at taxpayer expense. How about Michelle Obama, who had a BS, no-work, $300,000 a year job created just for her, and who now goes on lavish multi-million dollar vacations every couple of months at taxpayer expense? You and your ilk NEVER have anything bad to day about these filthy rich women, do you??? You are a complete hypocrite, just as your leftist overlords are the ultimate hypocrites.

You should just go away, troll. Nothing you ever say here is ever factual, truthful, informative, or thought provoking in the slightest degree. You are also boring.

SUBVET| 4.13.12 @ 3:29PM

George...........TRUE statement is this purp troll is getting to you.

What I don't understand is so many at TAS think purp is idiot......I say why give "it" any response maybe "it" will go away.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 5:05PM

Good luck with that, Sunshine. You need to hear opposing opinions. Closed minded as you are ... you still have to face you aren't the only Americans. And an African-American is President and 2 white boys can't beat him.... get over it already. Grow up, be compassionate to your fellow Americans and pay your fair share. And expect your politicians to do the same.
End the Bush Tax Cuts, pass the Buffet rule, and save the economy. No more tax cuts on borrowed money. Have a nice day!

From the Desk of Media Matters| 4.14.12 @ 12:01PM

Penelope Turd Pelosi Idiot,

Stop embarrassing the human race.

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots know the Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2002 and 2003 saw tax revenue increase from 1.7 trillion in 2003 to 2.5 trillion in 2007.

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots know the Buffet rule would increase tax revenue over a full year the same amount of money the nation gets further in debt in one 24 hour day.

Stop embarrassing the human race you lying idiot turd.

- MM staff

Drunken Sailor| 4.13.12 @ 3:12PM

I see your got your David Axelrod talking points update didn't you?

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 5:06PM

No, why what did he say? You seem to know more about him than I do ... a closet liberal? or just in the closet?

JP| 4.13.12 @ 3:42PM

Rosen had more access to Obama than the DCI or Chairman to the Joint Chiefs. She visited the WH 36 times. To say she wasn't a Oval Office operator is akin to saying that Karl Rove was an unpaid civil servant. Rosen's firm SDKKnickerboker recieves millions from Obama's campaign.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 5:01PM

Sure, I hold a lot of credibility in statements from people who can't spell....

RonRonDoRon| 4.13.12 @ 5:07PM

Common typo delegitimizes any argument?

RonRonDoRon| 4.13.12 @ 5:10PM

BTW - "hold a lot of credibility in" is not correct usage. I think you meant "give a lot of credibility to"

Does that make your arguments invalid?

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 10:46PM

I meant what I said you knew what I meant - it's called communication...

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:05PM

As opposed to relating to a lesbian LGBT ho that's driving two adopted children to an insane asylum from trying to figure out who mommie and whose daddy perhaps??????

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 10:46PM

Do you fart bigotry? You sure smell from it...

Reality1| 4.13.12 @ 8:26AM

President-Elect Romney will be innaugurated on January 20, 2013 and the "experiment" with Hope and Change will be reserved to the History texts. American always comes back to it's core...whether the media/pop culture/progressive set believes it or not. That is why it's called OUR history.

Appleby| 4.13.12 @ 8:37AM

Not voting for Romney. I am bunkering down for the duration though, and will be interested to see how Romney manages to lose the election, despite the best the Liberal Elite in the Republican Party can do to convince the peons that he does in fact understand that $300,000 IS a lot of money...

chuck| 4.13.12 @ 8:40AM

I thought you,re a freaking Canuck! Can you even vote in our election?

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 11:02AM

Sure. Just show up and say your name is "Eric Holder"...

W| 4.13.12 @ 8:48AM

Every day you have to post that you are too good to vote for Romney. Does it make you feel better to see Obama win?

Con Chef (NB) | 4.13.12 @ 8:55AM

Yet another one of Paine's "sunshine patriots & summer soldiers."

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 9:04AM

And every day you post about how you'll put on your Romney kneepads because conservative principles are nowhere near as important as supporting the jersey you wave.

How's about you focus on whoring yourself and less on pimping the rest of us?

W| 4.13.12 @ 9:25AM

Teflon,
You are a filthy mouthed moron. You fit in well with your pals voting for Obama. Go to the DailyKos and HuffPo to play with your new friends who want to elect Obama like you.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:35PM

W, you are a pissy little hypocrite and a complete FauxCon.

Now go do what Karl Rove tells you.

W| 4.13.12 @ 1:51PM

You are still a foul mouthed phony conservative who will vote for Obama. You have no logic or facts just your name calling. You fit in well with the lefties. Go play with Purp, moron.
I will listen to Karl Rove before I listen to an idiot like, or any other Obama voter here.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 3:06PM

I have no doubt you listen to Karl Rove---and only Rove.

Unlike you, I have posted fact after fact, video after video, and otherwise demonstrated a thorough command of the history and the backgrounds of the candidates here as I effortlessly eviscerate your weak-sister arguments.

I'd take pride in it weren't you so weak.

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 2:29PM

And you are Clint.

You disappeared for a while...and now that the "Clint" persona isn't needed (Ron Paul's campaign is dead), you're back to Teflon93.

irish19| 4.13.12 @ 3:37PM

Can't be Clint. The -shift key isn't possessed.

W| 4.14.12 @ 3:32PM

I agree with you Doc.

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 11:03AM

I'm sorry, but I missed the part of the "Conservative Handbook" that explains how losing is actually a successful strategy...

...Maybe you could explain it?

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:42PM

The "...for Dummies" version:

When two liberals are running against each other, conservatives have already lost.

The option now is to either purge the GOP of you RINO bootlickers after the inevitable Romney defeat or make the Tea Party a real political party.

I'm for the latter because you dirtbags have ruined the Republican Party beyond the point of redemption.

Now perhaps you can explain to us how having a liberal with a (-R) after his name advances the cause of conservatism.

Especially when that particular liberal has done not one damned thing his entire coddled life to do so.

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 1:22PM

Your answer is only valid if your premise is accepted.

It isn't.

You've proven nothing. All you keep saying is "Romney is a Liberal, Romney is a Liberal"...

You've failed to understand that equating Romney with Obama is stupid.

Whining pussies like yourself, who will stay home on election day and cry just to prove "a point" are what's killed the Republican Party.

The mere idea that any Party is perfect, or that any politician will satisfy all of your political objectives is about as immature as one can get.

And to imply that Romney was "coddled" says that you don't know much about Romney. He made his fortune on his own; George had NOTHING to do with it. Maybe you should listen to Ann Romney describe how they lived in a 2-bedroom, $62/month apartment while her husband was studying at BYU and fathering 3 kids?

Seriously...you're a complete moron. You know ZIP about what you post.

Stay home on election day... Write letters to your local newspaper bitching about how the GOP-establishment conspired against your guy...whine and cry some more...

Who cares???

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 1:45PM

Read his damned record, you crosseyed little douchebag.

I've schooled you time and again, Doctor Douche.

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 2:30PM

BWAH-HAH-HAH!!!!!!

Yeah, whatever Clint/Teflon/dummy...

Waaaaaaahhhh!!!!! Squirt a few more tears....

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 4:02PM

Check the time sigs, you moron. Clint and I have posted in any number of threads. See if any are too close to allow for log in/out.

You're too stupid to handle any other way to check.

W| 4.13.12 @ 4:52PM

So you and Clint are now working together?

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:18PM

Boy, you are a genius.

You and Doctor Right must be the same moron. Of course, there's no way you have two heads...

W| 4.13.12 @ 11:36PM

Clint is smarter than you Tef. At least he did not vote to elect Clinton, and if he did he is smart enough to keep it quiet.
You are an idiot.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:37PM

At least you're not a namecaller, huh, W?

You're not just a weak chickenshit but a hypocrite with zero integrity.

beebop2| 4.14.12 @ 1:16PM

I am sure you have heard "protest too much" before this and you are sure making excuses galore. I don't care if you are clint or he is you -- both of you are a serious waste of C02

W| 4.15.12 @ 3:28PM

"I've schooled you time and again"

Further proof that Clint is Tef or Clintef

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 5:11PM

Oh, there is a much easier answer for what's killed the Republican Party - Limited Government, Freedom, and Fiscally Conservative is definitely NOT what the Republican Party pursues. They hypocritically say they do, but their record says otherwise. The political hacks never do what they say they will, they lie so much they don't remember the truth or the facts. That is what is killing the Republicant party.

Con Chef (NB) | 4.13.12 @ 11:11AM

What's this "us" shit, kinosabe? Speak for yourself. I, for one, would rather have Romney, who I have faith can be steered by Congress, than some douchebag who was forged in the crucible of the America-hating leftovers from the 60's with a racial chip on his shoulder.

And by your staying home, I think its safe for us to assume that you're giving MaoBama a de facto BJ yourself.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:39PM

You can't be pimped if you're doing it for free, CC.

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 2:32PM

Teflon93 = Clint.

Same style.
Same repetitive posting.
Same anonymous bully tactics.
Same pathetic "challenges."
Same total lack of insight.
Same knee-jerk defense of all things Popey and Catholic-ey.
Same dumbness.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 3:05PM

#1, I don't think Clint is even a Catholic.

#2, what we do have in common is making you look like the mindless MittBot buffoon you are.

#3, everyone already knows you're an anti-Catholic bigot and every time you confirm it you undermine your own cause. Which is fine by me.

#4, you probably shouldn't claim someone's repetitive while repeating the "same" mantra over and over. But you can't help yourself because you really are that stupid.

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 11:11PM

Uh Oh !
American Spectator's Resident Lapsed Catholic Turned Ax Grindin' Anti-Catholic Serial Bigot Cat, Dr.Reich Is Gettin' All Fixated & Obsessed & Paranoid Again & Thinks He's Seein' Tea Party Clint Behind All The Bushes Again.

Take Two More Hits Of That Catnip & Call Mittens In The Mornin', Mittens' Kitten Dr.Reich.

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:09AM

Doc,
Clint/tef just chickened out again after his silly threats,

Occam's Tool| 4.13.12 @ 12:31PM

Teflon:

Sir, you are right. The best guy did not win. But Obama is a nightmare right up there with Jimmah; probably worse.

W. was better than Jimmah and O. Tell me you think Mitt will be worse than W. Remember, I voted for Santorum (twice, legally) and donated. I'm voting for Romney, not because I love him, but because we have a Monster in the White House whose friends are traitors, terrorists, and scum. (Wright, Khalidi, and Van Jones, Ayers and Dorhn, and Rezko and who the hell knows what else---Traitors, terrorists, convicted felonious scum by any measure).

I ask you to re-think this, seriously. In 2016 we can launch a Conservative insurrection against Romney if things go further South. Or, you might be surprised. Or Ann could have a relapse of MS.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:39PM

Mitt will be worse than Dubya. Bad as Dubya could be, he was a fighter pilot who served his country while Mittens tasted wine in the Loire Valley (after having protested in favor of other men getting drafted), he was a staunch advocate of the pro-life cause, he believed in tax cuts instead of tax increases, and he picked two solid Court nominees (after the Miers fiasco). In all those things---and in opposing socialized medicine, even despite the Medicare D thing---he was Romney's vast superios.

Read it for yourself.

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:08PM

Ho'in and pimp'in instead for a Yankee lying labor union facilitator and lobbyist, disguised as a conservative, maybe??????

richard ryan| 4.13.12 @ 9:25AM

"I won't vote for Romney.....I'll be interested to see how he loses this election..." Does anyone else see the intellectual deficit in this statement?

Gary B| 4.13.12 @ 10:44AM

Pop quiz:

1. Which one is an anti-American Marxist?
A. Obama
B. Romney

2. Which one do you want nominating the next two Supreme Court justices?

A. Obama
B. Romney

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 1:57PM

Obama on both counts

irish19| 4.13.12 @ 3:40PM

The fact that you correctly identified the anti-American Marxist and also want him picking the next SCOTUS justice says everthing we need to know about you.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 5:19PM

I sure hope so... There is another 53% of America that isn't for Romney...

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:09PM

As Santa said .....HO, HO, HO!!!!!!!!

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 4:03PM

Except Romney picks liberal judges:

http://www.bing.com/images/sea.....25&first=0

Tell Karl to get some new talking points.

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:11PM

'.....“In his first term, we’ve seen the president try to browbeat the Supreme Court,” Romney said. “In a second term, he would remake it. Our freedoms would be in the hands of an Obama Court, not just for four years, but for the next 40. That must not happen.“As President, I will uphold the rule of law — and put America back on the path toward the Founders’ vision. I don’t want to transform America; I want to return America to the principles that made this nation great.”....'

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:20PM

Romney's record---as always---speaks louder than his words.

But your faith is touching---kind of like a brain-damaged dog.

Vern Crisler| 4.13.12 @ 11:27AM

Looks like the Mitt-bots are out in force this morning. Still laughing at you guys. I cannot believe the Stupid Party nominated another moderate. Sheesh!

John - TMF| 4.13.12 @ 11:40AM

Small correction Vern... LIBERAL... Mitt's no moderate. George HW Bush is a moderate. Richard Lugar is a Moderate.. Bobdole was a moderate. Mittster is 100% pure L-I-B-E-R-A-L.

As to Gary B's judges... John "David Souter" Sunnunuuuoo oo.. is a prime Romney advisor. Sure... right 2/3rds of the judges that he nominated in the PRM were LIBERALS.... the rest have a mixed bag list of MODERATE written on it. He'll nominate the new Warren Burger, David Soutor, Sandra Day O'Connor...

If we retain a cloture proof Senate minority that remains cohesive, (not sure that the GOP is going to pick up the Senate... might, might not) then Obummer gets exactly ZERO nominees on the court. Pray for the 5 who will vote to overturn ObamneyCare.

r/TMF

Gary B| 4.13.12 @ 11:57AM

Since it's not an ideal world, let's not compare Romney presumptive nominees to ideal conservative specifications; let's compare them to the liberal freaks Obama would nominate.

Let's face it. For whatever reason, great conservatives simply chose not to run this time, so we're stuck - once again - with a lesser of evils.

So, do want the 100% evil bastard for another four years or do we want the 50% evil bastard who may be open to conservative pressure?

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:20PM

Grade on any curve you like---just don't call yourself a conservative.

Here's who Romney picked:

W| 4.13.12 @ 11:59AM

John the Obama voter chimes in with his daily idiocy. You want Obama to win and then you hope the Republicans get 60 Senators to fight any Supreme court picks. Unless the Dems do the nuclear option for 51 votes that the Republicans threatened to do. And the Dems will do it if every pick is blocked. Brilliant. That is a much better stategy than electing Romney.
Sandra Day was nominated by Ronald Reagan.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:43PM

Good thing you're not a namecaller, huh, W?

W| 4.13.12 @ 2:20PM

Teflon,
I called you a moron because you are acting, hopefully temporarily, like a moron. You are the one using names such as douchebag, pimp, pissy, making sexual references with kneepads (Did you vote for Clinton too?), whores , dirtbag, and so forth. Get you mind out of the gutter and deal with reality.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 3:02PM

Take a canvass of your epithets, W---I give as I get in sound measure. Since you don't offer facts and rarely arguments even without, you like invective. Fine by me; I don't take it personally and I enjoy a well-turned insult as much as anybody.

It isn't going to prevent me from gutting your position, though.

At some point, you are going to realize that you've been handed the weaker play.

Maybe then you'll get a little angrier at the people who handed it to you rather than the people who pointed it out to you.

W| 4.13.12 @ 5:07PM

You believe in conspiracies that some Establishment has annointed Romney. I don't.

The voters in the primaries have voted, and Romney is far ahead, with only Newt left. Romney will be the nominee and you can't accept that so you will take your marbles and go home.

I gave you facts and logic and you replied with name calling and tantrums. Then I called you a moron. Got the timeline straight?

After reading you voted for Keyes instead of Dole in 96 I am more convinced you are a moron. Dole was a conservative t0 moderate and much better than Clinton. Yet you threw away your vote for Keyes to help elect Clinton. So all your talk about Romney is BS because when you had a chance to vote for a patriotic, clean cut, genuine war hero like Dole against scum like Clinton you chose to help Clinton, like you now will help Obama.

I assume you did not vote for Ford either because you wanted to see Carter win so we could have a Dept of Energy, Dept of Education, and have Iran go to Khomeni ?

You should have disclosed you voted for Keyes instead of Dole so Clinton would win. We would not have wasted time with facts and arguments for you to vote for Romney. We could have skipped all that and just ignored you. You were going to throw your trantum once Bachman and Cain withdrew.
In the real world the choice is between Obama versus Romney, not Obama versus the perfect candidate acceptable to Teflon and Clint.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:22PM

18 states haven't votesd and won't get to vote.

I voted for Keyes because Dole was the "tax collector for the welfare state" and responsible for the Reagan tax increases because that Kansas idiot believed Tip O'Neill was going to give him $3 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax increases.

They got the tax increases.

He was a Bob Michel RINO and didn't deserve to be president.

W| 4.13.12 @ 11:34PM

You are a phony conservative who will vote to elect Obama and voted to elect Clinton. And you prefer Truman to Nixon and Ford. Truman who seized the steel mills and had to be struck down by the Supreme Court. And you voted to elect Carter. See a pattern here, you are a Democrat, not a conservative or a Republican.
You are an idiot.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:38PM

At least you're not a namecaller, huh?

I vote for CONSERVATIVES. Unlike you, you Republican whore. If Barack Obama had the magic (-R) after his surname you'd be singing his praises.

Because you're that much of a mindless drone.

The Bruce| 4.13.12 @ 1:34PM

John,

Who cares about the makeup of Congress at this point? With Obama at the helm, it doesn't matter.

I don't know if you've been paying attention but this president doesn't acknowledge the Congress at this point. He simply governs around them and they do nothing.

Tim the Enchanter| 4.13.12 @ 3:55PM

He doesn't "govern". He Dictates. Big difference.

jd| 4.13.12 @ 8:53AM

I have said all along that while Romney may not be perfect, and may not have been my first choice, I would always support him BECAUSE OF ANN ROMNEY. She is a gem and after she was attacked by a Democratic hack, I am actually excited about having a First Lady like her. As a woman who has been both a stay-at-home mom for years and now am a working mom, this blatant attack on her life CHOICE only proves yet again that the feminist, leftist, DEMOCRATIC crowd will only defend a liberal woman.

Indy| 4.13.12 @ 8:56AM

~50% pay NO Federal Income Taxes
ACORN, SEIU, Unions, OWS
~100% of the media is in the tank for Obama
Most of the electorate knows more about pop culture and sports than issues that directly impact them, they don't have a clue about the debt crisis
Potential for Voter Fraud
Americans Elect (if you don't know about it, look it up, this was designed to help Obama)
Dems have a strong ground game, the GOP is poor
Romney has made plenty of gaffes and will make more (but remember, we were told he's the most electable)
Romney will completely ignore the marxist ties to Obama - Frank Marshall Davis, Van Jones, many in Chicago. There will be no mention of his upbringing in Black Liberation Theology

Romney really has no idea what's headed his way, The Chicago Machine has been gearing up and is ready, there are boots on the ground in key battleground states.

What will Ron Paul and his supporters do?

I am not at all confident, we must Be Breitbart and work to elect conservatives to Congress and State offices.

Ryan| 4.13.12 @ 9:22AM

I think Romney can ignore certain hard-left elements in Obama's upbringing, as long as there is a Super PAC or something who makes it a good issue. Let Romney stay "above" the fray, in a sense, and use Obama's record as President against him.

Indy| 4.13.12 @ 12:01PM

I agree, Romney should not come out and say Obama is a marxist but when he says something like this...

President Obama is a nice guy, he's just in over his head

Romney does not speak the truth and will damage conservatives who do speak the truth. The President knows exactly what he is doing. If others speak out and inform voters of Obama's background, will Romney denounce them? or will he allow others to speak out?

Will Romney inform voters of the positions Eric Holder has taken?
Will Romney speak about the raid on Gibson Guitars? Fast and Furious? DOJ lawsuits against AZ, AL?
Will Romney speak out about the new regulations that will significantly impact family farms? EPA rules to destroy the coal industry? Will he go after MF Global and tie Corzine to Obama?

Will he speak of the favors granted to Obama's top bundlers? He may leave it to PACs but he must address crony capitalism in both parties - I don't think he will.

In the primaries, he went negative against his opponents, he never gave me a reason to vote for him so my vote will be ABO.

My prediction is if SCOTUS strikes down the individual mandate, Romney will not fully repeal what is left in place, his foot soldiers tipped us off (those paying attention). Obama will have a field day on the campaign trail with RomneyCare blazing the trail to ObamaCare, they have already started with that message. Romney better be ready and he can start with the IRS hiring binge, is Romney ready to cut IRS headcount? or will he allow those new Federal Employees...I bet he lets them stay on board.

Ryan| 4.13.12 @ 12:48PM

Romney needs to speak to current actions and how he would act as President. The Gibson guitar case is a HUGE one to jump on.

A properly-gauged attack on Holder on multiple issues would work as well.

Indy| 4.13.12 @ 12:55PM

agreed and focus on -

Energy, Energy, Energy...we must unleash the Energy Sector, it is a job creator and rising prices on energy impacts all of us and every business.

Palin shows the way, like her or hate her, she gets it
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-G.....-exclusive

Even Pickens finally said he lost his A___
http://hotair.com/archives/201.....ind-power/

Purp| 4.14.12 @ 11:56AM

No oil or gas we produce in this country will stay in this country. American energy is misinformation. Both are sold on the world market to the highest bidder - and we'll just be producing energy for China.

Indy| 4.14.12 @ 12:33PM

Americans need jobs, the energy sector produces jobs, prices will come down if more supply is available.

Von Mises Jr.| 4.13.12 @ 11:58AM

You are correct that some 48% pay no federal income tax.
But this includes many senior citizens that will be subject to the IPAB death panel if Obama is re-elected. It also includes allot of young unemployed that are starting to figure out that the adults fled the restaurant after their surf and turf entree, and they are stuck with the bill.
I think that if you took a poll of who watches the MSM that reads at TAS; you would find that 100% do not indulge that crap. Well, 99% accounting for Perp and Brooksie.

There are allot of stupid and grubby people to worry about; but my faith in Christ and America tells me we haven't reached Sodom and Gomorrah yet.
We have seen evil. It is called socialism, liberalism, progressivism and social justice; and I am confident we have seen enough.

Indy| 4.13.12 @ 12:08PM

I pray, my friend, that you are correct. We have to help educate our seniors, the Dems will run plenty of ads to scare them with the Ryan plan, they will flat out lie and the media will join in. ObamaCare will destroy Medicare, the IPAB is something we must expose to seniors.

The one area where I applaud Ron Paul is awakening the youth to the debt problem, however, I am concerned that they will vote for Gary Johnson and that could be enough to hand Obama some key states. What will Ron Paul do, will he encourage his base to vote 3rd party? stay home? who knows...

Purp| 4.14.12 @ 11:59AM

FICA tax is federal tax, and all income earners pay that and Medicare tax as well.
Evil = Conservatism ... and the Founders knew it. That's why they were enlightened and put the checks and balances on government - not to protect them from liberal or progressives but from the autocratic conservatives, who still wanted a King.

Indy| 4.14.12 @ 12:35PM

FICA in not a Federal Income Tax, FICA and Mediacare are for specific programs, my comment was accurate, I was specifically talking about Federal INCOME TAXES, thanks for playing.

Von Mises Jr| 4.14.12 @ 2:04PM

Ironically, Perp while totally ignorant of economics, is correct. Only because the politicians stole almost all the money from Social Security.
It was not supposed to be a tax, but a pension plan. But once the congress stole the money, there is no pension funds existing any longer. So they tax young and give to the old currently.
Perp was correct, even if it was a mistake that led him to the correct answer.

Indy| 4.14.12 @ 2:48PM

Yes, I fully understand that, perhaps I am getting too technical since I am in the middle of working on my tax return. In the payments section of Form 1040, Federal Income Tax withheld from W2 / 1099, there is nothing about payroll taxes.

I am not a happy camper especially today when I add up what my family has paid in Payroll, Property, State and Federal Income Taxes knowing that what I pay is mostly wasted and there are too many takers.

My point all along has been our tax code is a mess, the Earned Income Credit as an example has driven the number of non Federal Income Tax Payers higher (perhaps an unintended consequence of the Bush Tax Cuts - which Obama extended). We need lower rates with fewer deductions / credits. Everyone needs skin in the game (except for the poor / disabled). We cannot survive as a Republic with ~50% paying $0 Federal Income Tax..my opinion, my friend. Lower income must pay a nominal tax so they get equally outraged with government waste and will join us to vote the bums out and keep doing so until we get citizen representatives who are accountable to We The People.

Enjoy the weekend, I hope the weather is awesome where you are, it's a beautiful day outside, time to take a break from the return prep, I think I'll walk the dog for a stress break.

Tommy Frisco| 4.13.12 @ 12:09PM

Yes, Indy. We must work to elect conservatives to Congress and State offices. We desperately need to win back the Senate and add to our majority in the House.

Everyone, please send what money you can to Ted Cruz (R-TX), a primary candidate for the U.S. Senate. He is a solid conservative with impeccable credentials and is in a tight race against a lib/moderate Republican named David Dewhurst. We have too many Dewhurst-type Repubs in DC already. We need to replace those establishment-types with solid conservatives.

We must stop our complaining and start supporting the conservative candidates.

Indy| 4.13.12 @ 12:58PM

Indeed, already donated to Cruz and will make calls on his behalf. Getting rid of Lugar is also a must.

Tommy Frisco| 4.13.12 @ 1:20PM

Thanks, Indy. You're the man!

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 2:24PM

The debt crisis will disappear when the Bush Tax Cuts expire, the housing market stabilizes and everyone goes back to work. Breathe....

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 2:33PM

Neat fantasy. It's not rooted in economic reality, but it gets you through the day, I guess...

Indy| 4.13.12 @ 2:45PM

Some people struggle with math and facts, some people can learn, others belive in unicorns.

Dr. Right, thanks for the sanity check!

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 3:08PM

How convenient, the right wing runs up the debt, causes a huge financial crisis and then runs around with it's hair on fire yelling "cut the budget, gut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment insurances, Food Stamps, Education, the Military Budget, but don't you dare raise a dime of extra revenue ... " When cutting the government's budget was the plan all along.... and y'all are too dumb to notice how it will affect you. I don't know if you're ignorant, stupid, hypocrites or evil... all for the 1% to gain more tax breaks.

JP| 4.13.12 @ 3:47PM

How convienent, Obama runs up more debt in 2 years then Bush did in 8. He dishes out $1 trillion to his cronies in New York, Californai, and Illinois; and concocts a health care plan that 70% of the voters in this nation hate. And he expects to win re-election.

And his Buffet Tax is projected to collect enough additional taxes to run the government for 20 minutes. What a maroon.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 5:23PM

Doesn't change what I said whatsoever.... you can't hide your own rotten governing by complaining about someone else's.
Oh, and Ann Coulter was right - you nominate Romney - you lose.

Indy| 4.13.12 @ 5:12PM

I see you have yet to complete your homework assignment, please read Reckless Endangerment by NY Times writer Gretchen Morgenson to understand what caused the financial crisis. Dr. Thomas Sowell also addresses it in The Housing Boom and Bust.

While we wait for your book report, perhaps you can spare a few minutes to watch two videos, one on tax rates http://www.learnliberty.org/vi.....nce-budget

and the other on spending by the minute
http://www.learnliberty.org/vi.....ent-minute

There are many other videos worth watching, the one on the impact of interest rates and the debt I posted yesterday...definitely worth a view.

"I don't know if you're ignorant, stupid, hypocrites or evil" really, is that what you think?

I am an unaffilated voter because I am fed up with both parties. I am greatly concerned about the future of our country for my family, my neighbors, friends and fellow citizens. I've done my homework as have other readers here, we know both parties are at fault for our fiscal mess but Obama's spending level has been on steroid and he has no intention of reducing our debt, even Bernanke and Geitner said his budget was not sustainable.

Raise taxes so more GSA employees can enjoy lavish vacations at taxpayers' expense and receive bonuses for wasting our money, fund more Solyndras, spend more on education with no better outcome and drive up tuition costs? Hire more IRS agents? Fund DHS so they can buy millions more rounds of hollow point ammunition ? (yes, they recently bought 450,000,000 rounds which is on top of the 200M rounds purchased in 2009), hire more federal employees to raid private companies such as Gibson Guitar (still no charges have been filed) I could go on...spending is the problem and tax reform is needed, rates must be flattened and deductions reduced / eliminated, we need a pro growth strategy and we must unleash the energy sector. I don't plan on responding to anymore of your posts until you turn in your book report. Have a great weekend, perhaps you might have time to read Ameritopia too, you would be amazed at what you might learn if you open up your mind just a little.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 5:30PM

I couldn't care less what you read and you DON"T dictate reading material to me either.
So can you explain how, when the House controls the money (budget, appropriations) you blame Obama for the last 2 years? And, that's on top of the spending of the Republican Congress in the 2000's? You are no unaffiliated voter, that is clear and Obama and the Democrats never had a budget - you righties complain about it all the time. So what your complaining about is the continued spending that Republicants left behind after Bush went back the brush. BTW - did he endorse Romney? Why no ... isn't that odd? Will we see old Dubya at the convention ... you betcha not. Face it - the right wing is happy to balance a budget on the backs of the poor, the elderly, disabled and the children because they are worthless pos that don't make any money for your 1% masters. Disagree? Name one program that Republicans passed to help the people in time of need - name one.

From the Desk of Media Matters| 4.14.12 @ 12:18PM

Penelope Keisha Olbermann-Pelosi,

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots know you the idiot couldn't care less to read:

"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry, and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits enjoyed by it." - Thomas Jefferson

Stop violating the enjoyment of the human race you the idiot even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots guarantee don't want any association with.

- MM staff

Von Mises Jr| 4.14.12 @ 9:31AM

Indy, Perp must be getting troll overtime. Do you think Soros pays time-and-a-half for trolls that surpass 25% of all comments posted?
And the funny thing is nobody agrees with this fool. His moma muss be proud?
I thank my stars every day that I am not as sad, angry and apthetic as a liberal troll.

Indy| 4.14.12 @ 11:05AM

Von Mises Jr., Good Morning. I will go back to my routine of scrolling past Purp's comments. If I showed him my voter's registration card, he still wouldn't believe that I'm an unaffiliated voter.

He refuses to open his mind to anything outside of his hard left ideology. He doesn't get it, many of us woke up during the Bush years, we saw the GOP walked away from conservative principles. We learned it was Bush 41 who signed Agenda 21.

It's easy to name one program, the GOP passed to help people, Medicare Part D, whether we agreed with it or not. Other major entitlements were passed with bipartisan support. It was the Dems who jammed ObamaCare down our throats, along with the stimulus bill. Purp refuses to recognizes the massive spending increases that occurred under Pelosi and Reid's watch which is now embedded in the baseline. The refusal of Reid to even bring the President's budget to the floor for a vote, passing no budget in almost 1100 days when it only takes 51 votes. Reid forced Boehner to play his hand which was to govern by CR, many in the GOP want to deal with reality to deal with the debt but leadership doesn't have the stones to do it now, we must elect more conservatives and get them in leadership positions.

He doesn't get it, captialism has fed more people than charity. He doesn't recognize conservatives donate more $ than liberals, the USA donates more than any other country, socialst Europe utopia is quick to criticize us but slow to open their wallets. We must help our fellow citizens through charity not the government. The government produces nothing, it takes and redistributes. If the private sector is destroyed, our Nation falls.

Gee, if we unleashed the energy sector, more people will have jobs and could feed themselves, they wouldn't need food stamps (a progam with major waste, college students are encouraged to sign up). Purp must come here for sport or for Soros $ as you point out, he certainly doesn't add value to the conversation. Like you, I read Karl Marx, Saul Alinsky, we read other points of view to educate ourselves. Anyone who thinks the GOP is solely responsible for the housing collapse has his head in the sand.

Today, I will be finishing up my tax return, not fun and really hard to write a check for the GSA to waste. Have a great day!

Purp| 4.14.12 @ 12:06PM

Hahaha - Medicare Part D helped the pharmaceutical companies - the donut hole guaranteed that any senior that needed expensive drugs got screwed. Not being able to negotiate lower rates hurts us all - but helps Big Pharma. Are you that dumb?
I never said the GOP is solely responsible for the housing collapse - but they are responsible for pushing the removal of the last of the Glass-Stegall act that allowed banks into the casino world of betting with OPM (other people's money) and they were in charge of the regulators that didn't regulate and they were pushing the home ownership society under Bush as well. Sooooo, no regulation of CDOs and CDSs, etc., no oversight of subprime mortgaging, push to home ownership from the top - and you have a perfect storm - except the 1% made off like a bandit. It's mostly a GOP fault and America knows it.
As much as you try to paint President Obama with it, it doesn't work - America knows who's policies caused the crash. and you know it too. you just can't accept the blame.

Von Mises Jr| 4.15.12 @ 7:54AM

Perp is a troll. He is paid not to understand. He is a bloodsucker. Could you imagine taking money for betraying your country? It is probably about 30 pieces of silver a week, or $600 and all the scrapple you can eat with an EBT card.

Ignore him, unless you wish to insult him. A good insult just riles him up, brings out his nasty Hillary Rosen hate and gives me a freaking belly laugh.

George True| 4.13.12 @ 3:07PM

The Bush tax cuts provided cuts of 100% for low income earners, 30% to 50% for middle income earners, and a whopping 3.5% tax cut for high income earners. The idea that the Bush tax cuts were a "tax cut for the rich" was always an outrageously false narrative. But you don't let actual facts get in the way of your worldview, do you Purp? You are a peddler of false narratives that you are not even smart enough to realize are totally false.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 5:34PM

The lion's share of the money went to the wealthy and you know d* well it did. Of course, you'll hide behind the ol tired trick of "well the rich pay more, so they get more in tax breaks" ... and THAT is exactly what grates on America. You can take a Billion dollars from the top 10 earners in the country and they will still eat, sleep well, have no concern for healthcare or anything else they need or for that matter want. You just don't get it, do you? Not everyone can say that.

W| 4.13.12 @ 6:31PM

Purp
If you really did have a job and work you would understand that a person works and pays tax to the government from earnings. If tax rates go up you pay more, if tax rates go down, you pay less. It is always your money that your are sending to the government.
The money does not go from the government to the person, unless you are a parasite on the dole like you and your friends.
It is not a question of whether you still have money for food and clothing and shelter if the government takes more, it is your money and not the government.
See, when you actually do get a job and pay taxes, as opposed to the fantasy job in your mind, you may hopefully understand who owns the money.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 10:53PM

Really? Where'd you learn that? In Ayn Rand 101 class. Wow what a revelation. I didn't know that, omg, now I see the light. That's sarcasm, if you didn't catch my drift. But -
If you didn't have money to feed, clothe or shelter you and your family, you might be singing a different tune - but you are typical ostrich with his head up his a** - saying "it can't happen to me".
You are obsessed with my job for some reason. I for one will be glad to retire one day to pursue other interests. But you will still be dumb apparently.

W| 4.13.12 @ 11:37PM

Not obsessed with your imaginary job, Purp or Teflon, you two sound alike.

Purp| 4.14.12 @ 12:07PM

Again, you ignore what you can't defend. You're rotten inside and you can't face it, Mr. Potter.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 5:55PM

W, who now sounds just like Doctor Right, has so completely lost it thanks to the many beatdowns I've given that he's seeing 3 of me.

W| 4.15.12 @ 3:30PM

Keep dreaming, Clintef, Moron.

George True| 4.13.12 @ 7:25PM

".....you can take a billion dollars from the top 10 earners in the country and they will still eat....."

It's not your money, Purp. It does not belong to you. It is not Obama's money, it is not the country's money, and it is not "the people's" money. You are advocating the taking of what does not belong to you for the alleged benefit of "the poor" or "the children" or "the downtrodden". It is still theft, no matter how you try to dress it up.

It is also based on covetousness of that which you have not earned and that which is not yours, which is one of the principle sins according to the Ten Commandments.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 10:57PM

Never said it was my money. But you owe the government when the government says you do. And that kills you doesn't it?
Maybe I don't like my tax money paying for endless wars or the latest fighter plane - so what? My government decides how to spend the money I send it as tax. Get over yourself with the "it's my money" ... that is so anti-Christian and selfish you can't be that much a tightwad. But maybe an ingrate for all the government provides to you.
Theft is illegal. Tax is not illegal, so get over it already. You can't win, you won't win. If you do, you'll succeed in destroying the very country you profess to love. Or maybe you don't?

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:18PM

No moron, the defecit/debt will disappear when Romney and Republicans close worthless governmental agencies and departments and terminate useless/overpaid/idiotic unionized government employees receiving excessive paychecks/benefits/pensions at taxpayers' expense.....and it will happen in January 2013 after the Bush tax cuts have been permanently extended!!!!!!!!!!

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 10:58PM

You mean like Reagan did ? Or Papa Bush? Or, God Help Us, like Baby Bush did? Yeah the record on the right is one of balanced budgets and fiscal soundness, huh? Idiot.

From the Desk of Media Matters| 4.14.12 @ 11:53AM

Idiot Penelope Pink Putz Pansy Pelosi,

Stop embarrassing humanity idiot.

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots know Obama has already created more debt than Reagan and Bush I and Bush II did in 20 years combined.

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots know Obama has already created more than double the debt of all 8 years of Bush II.

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots know Obama promised to cut the debt created to half of Bush II during his term from 2008 to 2012.

Stop embarrassing humanity you lying turd.

- MM staff

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 9:01AM

You are crazy, Tucker. But even more---you're a RINO apparatchik.

You might have noticed during the primary how stiff, cold, and underhanded Mitt Romney is. His opponents certainly did---just as the last batch from 2008 did.

Obama vs. Romney is liberal snake vs. liberal snake.

You simply prefer the snake in the Republican jersey.

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:20PM

You obviously prefer the snake in Obama's/Democrats' jockstrap!!!!!!

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:23PM

Says the Olde Timey snakehandler.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 10:59PM

you're sick.

Scorpio51| 4.13.12 @ 9:07AM

I'm not at all confident that Romney can win this.
As Indy said, he won't bring up issues nor attack with the issues, just like McCain didn't.

I wonder what will the GOP/Romney say to all the constituents when he loses?

Americans will revolt.

Rocco| 4.13.12 @ 10:20AM

This is my fear as well. ABO!!! We have to keep this in the forefront. The Democrats are a target rich environment, and SOMEONE on our side has to have the cojones to take advantage of this.

If Romney can so freely attack his primary opponents, then he should do likewise in the general... If he doesn't, we're done as a country.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 11:00PM

Karl Rove will do it for him - and you know how much America loves ol' Turd Blossom - Romney's doomed.

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 9:13AM

Romney Is McCain Redux.

We Are Being Set Up By The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

Crassus| 4.13.12 @ 11:06AM

Yada, yada, yada.

tps| 4.13.12 @ 12:32PM

Least Clint has given up the 'Tea Party to a brokered convention' spiel.

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 1:33PM

Obama Is A Tarpster, Where Romney Is A Taepster.

Obama Orchestrated Obamacare, Where Romney Orchestrated Romneycare.

Frick Runs Against Frack.

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 1:24PM

Call Bibi.

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 2:34PM

Clint = Teflon93 = Clint Air = funny.

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 4:19PM

Dr.Reich= RINO-CINO=McCain= Romney= Sad

Occam's Tool| 4.13.12 @ 12:34PM

Thanks for taking the time out from servicing your jihadist johns to write, Clint.

No brokered convention now, I see...

Once again the razor slashes to the bone, jihadist catamite. I savor my victory over the forces of Paul and his treasonous vermin supporteres.

Alan| 4.13.12 @ 1:21PM

Nothing like watching Paulistinians disintegrate from their political fantasies. Poor Clint, somewhere down the line at the Paul Bot rehab center: Hi, my name is Clint and I'm a Paulistinian with no life who spent most of his waking life posting the same old drivel on message boards over and over. LOL!

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 1:41PM

Nothing Like Watchin' The BibiBots Cheerleading Their RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney.

"Mitt Romney said three years ago that he was “pleased” with the appointment of Timothy Geithner as Treasury secretary — even after it came to light that Geithner had not paid the taxes he owed.

A newly discovered video of Romney’s appearance on “Fox and Friends” also shows the former Massachusetts governor and current GOP presidential candidate saying he thought the TARP was the “right thing to do” — and calling the $1 trillion stimulus package “necessary.”

Earlier, Romney had expressed support for the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), signed by President George W. Bush in October 2008, which allowed the Treasury Department to buy or insure troubled assets, including bank holdings.

Asked whether he still supported it, Romney said: “TARP was the right thing to do. TARP was designed to keep our financial system from collapsing.

“You have to have a financial system for an economy to run and TARP was designed to keep our financial system from crumbling.”

It was pointed out that TARP had bailed out banks so they could lend money, but instead had largely kept the money or used it to buy other banks."

Alan| 4.13.12 @ 1:56PM

"Hi, my name is Clint and I'm a Paulistinian with no life who spent most of his waking life posting the same old drivel on message boards over and over"

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 4:23PM

"Hi, his name is Alan and he's a BibiBot with no life who spent most of his waking life dribbling on & giving Bibi lovely massages over and over"

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:12AM

Clint/Teflon/Tom
Tell us why Obama will be a better preseident than Romne, like Carter was better than Ford and Clinton better than Dole.

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 1:30PM

Tool Job,You're The Screwball RINO-CINO BibiBot Maniac, Who Said He Will Vote For The RINO-CINO Fop Frontman, Mittens Romney Way Back In June.

Bibi Wants You To Stop Molestin' His Goat, Billy, Or He Won't Let You Polish His Nob No More.

Alan| 4.13.12 @ 1:57PM

"Hi, my name is Clint and I'm a Paulistinian with no life who spent most of his waking life posting the same old drivel on message boards over and over"

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 4:24PM

"Hi, his name is Alan and he's a BibiBot with no life who spent most of his waking life dribbling on & giving Bibi lovely massages over and over"

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 2:35PM

What happened to your "brokered convention," dumbass?

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 4:30PM

Romneycare Is Dumbass.

Dr.Reich's The RINO-CINO Elitist Wannabe,Who Said He'd Vote For The Ruling Elites' RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney.

We Are Being Set Up By The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:22PM

Speaking of MEDIA MATTERS FLUNKIE JOCKSTRAP/TOO SHORT SHORTS STOOGES ......!!!!

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 11:19PM

Apparently, Fart Pants Is Queer For Short Shorts.

Call Hilary Rosen In The Morning.

Frank Natoli| 4.13.12 @ 9:25AM

Hey, Bill, do you pray? If you do, when you pray that Romney "stays positive", which he wasn't to his Republican primary "friends" this year, and he wasn't to his Republican primary "friends" in 2008 [give Thompson and Giuliani a ring], and you sense a thought, "but Bill, you're asking Me to give you somebody who is not Mitt Romney", remember which very small time prophet told you so.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:46PM

In fairness Romney had the habit of appearing positive on the debate stage while stabbing his opponents in the back in his ads. Remember how uncommonly kind he was to Herman Cain right before the final revelations dooming his candidacy were released?

Romney shopped oppo research to the lefty media throughout the 2008 and 2012 campaigns. He got caught shopping Santorum oppo to AP right before Santorum emerged in the public polls as the frontrunner (no doubt because the Romney internals caught the move earlier).

Thus "appearing positive" isn't an impossible challenge for him.

The difference is the media won't be an outlet for Obama oppo in the general.

Frank Natoli| 4.13.12 @ 3:41PM

Appearing anything, never mind positive, isn't an impossible challenge to someone whose "principles" are revised for each and every context. Keyword is "appearing".

I was amused when Romney lost to Gingrich in South Carolina, and one of the few demographics that voted in a plurality for Romney was...pro-choice Republicans! The South Carolina primary voters weren't fooled by Romney's embrace [this week] of pro-life.

This of course happened in reverse with Al Gore. As a U.S. Senator from relatively conservative Tennessee, he was staunchly pro-life. But when he decided that the nation needed him in the Oval Office, and running as a Democrat, he was staunchly pro-choice.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 4:05PM

That's a good point. Algore was actually pretty conservative in the Senate---remember Tipper's campaign against dirty lyrics?

Algore was a lot younger when he had his "conversion"---and he never looked back.

Romney was supporting abortion after his alleged 2005 conversion.

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:26PM

Yeah, Santorum '''''appeared''' to be a conservative which is a croc of excrement, and conveniently exited the race after realizing Romney would beat him in his own home state of Pa [since its citizens know him for what he IS or more appropriately what he ISN'T]!!!!!!!

Occam's Tool| 4.16.12 @ 2:35AM

In all fairness, although I don't agree with Teflon 93, I don't believe that he is Clint. One can reason with Teflon, and he doesn't instigate name calling that I can see.

At any rate, Tef, I think that Romney will be better than Obama. He doesn't hate America or American businesses, and I think he can be worked with. Mossad's dicta still applies: "the alternative is too horrifying to contemplate."

I'm hoping Romney plays very dirty with obama. I'd like to know about the Obama Chicago bathhouse rumors; they need to be verified, if true.

The American Hitman| 4.13.12 @ 9:29AM

Mitt only has negative. It will be nasty and negative vs nasty and negative. Turnout will be record low.

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 11:06AM

WRONG.

It will be the opposite.

The idea that Americans don't like or respond to negative campaigns is something the left trots out every four years to stop Republicans from exposing the flaws of their candidates.

Personally, I love a good fight. And I hope Mitt's people give it to Obama with both barrels (metaphorically speaking, of course).

richard ryan| 4.13.12 @ 11:22AM

Attacks are very effective because humans love a good fight. Romney's folks should go after Obama and never let up. No personal BS, just hammer home the facts and make reasonable predictions about what 4 more years would do.

JK| 4.13.12 @ 9:37AM

The primary campaign has made--is making--Romney a stronger candidate. Even though he was not my first choice, we will all find, I think, that he is an good man, an honorable man. As far as his conservative credentials go, remember the convert is often the most fervent adherent to the cause.

Derek Leaberry| 4.13.12 @ 9:51AM

Why not Mitt Romney?
1) Implemented homosexual "marriage" in Massachusetts.
2) Supported homosexual adoption rights in Massachusetts.
3) Supports the Obama-Mullen policy on homosexuals serving in the military.
4) Was pro-abortion until the age of 60 when he decided to run for president.
5) Supported the Brady Bill.
6) Declared himself an anti-Reagan Republican.
7) Supported TARP.
8) Supported the Kennedy-McCain-Bush-Graham immigration amnesty plan.
9) Implemented a state-level cap and trade system.
10) Supported pro-homosexual propaganda for Massachusetts public schools.
11) Implemented RomneyCare in Massachusetts with his "good friend" Ted Kennedy.
12) Nominated Democrats in 27 of 36 judicial appointments in Massachusetts, many of whom are Ginsburgesque lefties.
13) Raised fees in Massachusetts.
14) Supports the concept of man-made global warning.
15) Supporter of Planned Parenthood.
16) Self-described "progressive."

Let's lose now, let Obama and the Democrats crash and burn, and realize landslides in 2014 and 2016.

crookedwren| 4.13.12 @ 10:18AM

'Let's lose now"????? This POTUS has been the figurehead while serious Communist and Fabian Socialist workers have been hacking away at our Constitutional Republic.

Good Grief! Didn't you hear what he whispered to Putin's messenger boy?

Do you not know that Obama's father was a Marxist (from whom he took his "Dreams") who met his mother at a 60s Russian language class (in Hawaii -- where I lived for a time in 1971 -- and where I met several Communists in the short time I lived there). Said Mother had parents who sought out the most Marxist of presiding educational system in America. Said parents attended what was locally known as "the little Red church." Said parents helped raise little Barry and later found him a self-proclaimed Communist "mentor" -- Frank Marshall Davis from (where else?) Chicago.
Then there's Rev. Wright, no friend of America, but a great pal of Farrakhan. How many years did the President attend that church? Then there's Wallis, a "Reverend" who believes that the atheist Marx was somehow channeling Biblical principles.

I could go on!

Look, Romney isn't the choice I'd have made. He's a Mormon. Just wait for the "racist Mormon" attacks. That is coming. Watch for it. Mormonism is vulnerable on that one.

But hopefully Romney's pacs will get out the word on the Mormon practice of church welfare for those in need. It's an attractive aspect -- and might help win back those who begin to hear portions of the deeper doctrine.

Romney has to have a little strain of pro-capitalism in his blood and bone. Has to have.

And if you think that we'll have a chance after four more years of Obama, think again. When Obama and his workers (Van Jones and Anita Dunn are still busy little beavers -- even though they aren't officially hired by this White House) get through with "hidden" and "buried" regulations and weakening our economy and our defense even further, our elections won't be worth much in 2014 and 2016.

Derek Leaberry| 4.13.12 @ 10:43AM

The nation and the world will still exist five or six or fifty years from now. So don't worry. As a Roman Catholic, I have seen my own church decline precipitously in the same way the United States has so I am familiar with descent, decay and decrepitude.

Yes, I know that Obama sees things through a Marxist-Gramscian lens. Like his mother, Obama hates everything about the historical American nation. Yet I see Obama as the result of a nation in cultural decline. We have Obama as president because there is something flawed in a majority of our countrymen.

But the welfare states of America and the rest of Western Civilization are in a state of collapse. There is no way to prevent their collapse and conservatives shouldn't really want to try. Good riddance to the welfare state. If the welfare state that the left has built over the past century is to implode, let it be under the political responsibility of the left.

richard ryan| 4.13.12 @ 11:26AM

I would agree to let this election go, but it's 2012 and we are a few years away from irreversable debt. National debt will be 20 Trillion soon. Much worse than post WWII GDP/Debt ratio because a much greater percentage of our debt is short term. We are in trouble here, and unfunded liabilites raise the debt over 100 Trillion.
If interest rates go up (THEY MUST EVENTUALLY) our debt will necessarily skyrocket to a crisis situation. Lose this one? We can't or we are done.

Indy| 4.13.12 @ 12:10PM

Interest rates and debt - you are spot on!

Great illustration for us to share with others, spend some time at the site, there are other good videos. http://www.learnliberty.org/vi.....-much-debt

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:47PM

You presume Romney will do something about it. Look at his actual record:

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:28PM

Why don't you instead look at Obama's record, and then compare his to Romney's [and if you're too stupid to tell the difference then your elevator doesn't go all the way up to the top]!!!!!!!!

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:24PM

Have you finished reading the link, Oldedouche?

RCV| 4.13.12 @ 3:31PM

Derek - You may have me voting for Romney when you're done!

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 4:33PM

Uh Oh !

Obama TrollBoy, RCV Is Gettin' Eyes For Mittens Now.

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:30PM

The only Obama TrollBoy obtains his paycheck from MEDIA MATTERS 1600 RETURN ADDRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 11:24PM

RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooge, Fart Pants Pimps For Free, For The RINO-CINO Ruling Elites' Frontman, Mittens Romney

W| 4.13.12 @ 5:09PM

RCV
We need you to offset Teflon. Ok?

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:25PM

He'll need to bring another for my wife and live in NC.

Which Romney desperately needs to win.

W| 4.13.12 @ 11:40PM

You are a phoney who voted to elect Clinton and now will vote to elect Obama.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:39PM

At least you're not a namecaller, huh, W?

You are a mindless whore who would vote for Obama if he only had that (-R) that makes you drop trou.

W| 4.14.12 @ 2:35PM

Still with the sexual inuendos, Tef? In addition to an idiot, you cannot make any logical arguments from facts but has to resort to sexual references. I thought you were a nice Catholic boy? Guess not, just a typical lefty obsessed with sexual references.
I am not the one voting to elect Obama, you are, remember? Just like you helped elect Clinton.
You are truly an idiot.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 5:55PM

I speak the language you understand, you RINO whore.

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:15AM

Clint/Teflon
Filthy langauage for a supposedly Catholic boy. You are a phoney Catholic as well as a phoney conservative.

Occam's Tool| 4.16.12 @ 2:37AM

Well, RCV, looking at the Middle East situation, I would much rather have Romney in charge rather than Obama. Obama and Bibi despise each other; Bibi and Mitt have been friends for almost 40 years (1976 on, I believe).

RCV| 4.16.12 @ 1:01PM

Both will stand firm with Israel, Occam, personal relationships with Bibi aside.

Scorpio51| 4.13.12 @ 6:39PM

I'll add to your list....Mitt Romney was brought up by George Romney who adopted the Saul Alinsky way.

Now if that doesn't say he's a liberal, I don't know what does. There is a YouTube video out there showing all of this. Sorry I can't look it up now.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:26PM

Is it George Romney saying that's what he is?

Because Mitt Romney's in this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.....tion,_1988

There are plenty more of these, but this one's nice and short to suit RINO attention spans.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 11:02PM

I agree with you on all but " Let's " .. it's already a done deal... His wife can't save him. What does that say about a leader that he needs his wife to save his chestnuts? He trots her out like we're voting for her. Does he really think America is that dumb?

From the Desk of Media Matters| 4.14.12 @ 11:45AM

Penelope Idiot Pansy Idiot Putz Idiot Pelos Idiot,

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots now are acutely aware thanks to idiot you that America is not so dumb as to realize Obama's debt is already more than double all 8 years of George W. Bushes.

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots now are acutely aware thanks to idiot you that America is not so dumb as to realize Obama's debt is already more than all 20 years of of Reagan and each Bush combined.

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots now are acutely aware thanks to idiot you that America is not so dumb as to not realize Obama promised he would cut the debt while president from 2008 to 2012 in half.

Stop embarrassing humanity idiot.

- MM staff

Louis Jenkins| 4.13.12 @ 9:58AM

First off, Romney is the established Republican's candidate. Most of the early posters here have said that they will hold their nose and vote for the man. The established Republicans will continue business as usual if Romney wins, and will continue business as usual if Romney loses. Basically, there is not much of a choice between Obama and Romney, unless you consider the jersey they're wearing. Yes, the Democrats started their attacks on Romney by attacking his wife, and why not, go for the soft underbelly first. You get more bang for your buck.

No single black will vote for the Mormon. That's 25-30% of vote gone already. Then there's the liberal whites, another 45% of the vote, not to mention the Mexicans, and others. Of course there's the fence sitters, but honestly I don't know those guys as you're either for or against Obama. And voter fraud? It will be obvious in the larger areas. Yes, Romney must stay on the high road and allow his underlings to do the attacks, but I do not see Romney winning the election. To much is stacked against the man already.

Our nation will be in for a dreadful experience in the next four years if Obama is re-elected. You had best be prepared.

JP| 4.13.12 @ 10:53AM

Turn out is key. The Dems will not tell you this, but they are in panic mode. They know it will be virtually impossible to replicate the 2008 black turn out. That is why the President and his closest advisors are stirring the race card so early. If black turn-out is low in states like Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania they will lose.

Yes, the Presidetn enjoys a base approval rating of 41-45%. But much of that vote is concentrated in New York and California -2 states they will carry anyway. The key are the battleground states of Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Virginia, Colorado, and perhaps North Carolina (this state has been trending GOP the last 12 months or so). The black vote is, in a way, overdone. Hispanics now outnumber blacks. And Hispanic turnout is normally very low. In Ohio and Virginia, the Dems may not survive. Again, turn out is key. If the GOP is able to get turn-out up like they did in 2004, not only will Mitt win big, but the GOP could pick up as many as 10 Senate seats.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:48PM

True but given how Mittens has pissed off the base---combined with how low primary turnout was---how does that lead to presuming Romney will GOTV?

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:34PM

Three guesses and your first two don't count. Obama versus Romney [or Republican rich stay-at-home mom of five versus lesbian adopter of two LGBT, HRC executive Democrat]. What's your choice, dummy?????

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:32PM

You're obviously not up on Romney's NC strategy---such as it is---which is to write off the rural conservatives who dominate the state in favor of appealing to more of his fellow metrosexuals, like the LGBTers you attend the Moustache Parade each year with.

BTW, let's have some facts about Romney on homosexuals, hey?

“When he challenged Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., in 1994, Romney endorsed Rep. Barney Frank’s, D-Mass., Employee Non-Discrimination Act which would have prohibited employers from making decisions about hiring, firing,
promoting, or compensation based on sexual orientation.” (Teddy Davis, “Romney Draws Fire For Shift On Gay Rights,” ABC
News’ Political Radar Blog, 4/23/07)

Note that includes churches.

“I am aware of the legislation that Barney Frank proposed and do support that and would vote in
favor of that.” (Chris Muther, “Romney: I’ll Be Better Than Ted For Gay Rights,” Bay Windows, 8/25/94)

“One issue I want to clarify concerns President
Clinton’s ‘don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue’ military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first in a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military.” (Mitt Romney, Letter To Log Cabin Republicans Of Massachusetts, 10/6/94)

Louis Jenkins| 4.13.12 @ 2:16PM

JP:

Let's hope there is the low turn out rate in Flordia, Ohio, and Penn. and it will assure their loss. NC is always a swing state, as they are not consistently for Republicans or Democrats.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 2:59PM

Not so much:

NC presidential results:

1980 - Reagan
1984 - Reagan
1988 - Bush
1992 - Bush
1996 - Dole
2000 - Bush
2004 - Bush
2008 - Obama

NC has been a solid Republican state since 1980. McCain made it a swing state; Romney will turn us blue.

JP| 4.13.12 @ 3:49PM

NC has been trending Democrat for a decade. A state that once produced such staunch conservatives as Jessie Helms has will probably become Blue in a decade if trends continue. The migration of New England libs to NC is the root cause.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 4:07PM

Well, not so much, JP---did you forget GOP state level gains last cycle? Historic switch to GOP in 2010.

It is true that a lot of liberals moved to the Triangle and Charlotte---but the state is still dominated by rural conservatives.

IF we turn out.

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:36PM

No just STUPID as usual, since the NORTH in NC tells all [as in DC suburb, or maybe Mayberry RFD]!!!!!!!

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 11:03PM

hahaha

Scorpio51| 4.13.12 @ 6:41PM

You nailed it! It will be very difficult to beat Obama. I don't have to much hope.

Mimi| 4.13.12 @ 7:04PM

It is sad to have to say this but we {Conservatives} lost even when we had the numbers. I'ts over!.....Now we better have some say in what goes on and we WILL...by electing more Con's in the Senate and House! The numbers will help to do this....our voice will be heard! Mitt will have to give us some Con's in the offices he picks to serve in the new administration.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 11:04PM

Cons is right

Bill X| 4.13.12 @ 10:42AM

He needs to attack Obama's record and the direction of the country.

florin| 4.13.12 @ 10:43AM

I don't think Romney should play nice...that didn't work for John McCain - he should be truthful but aggressive just as Chris Christie is...Dems are going to come out with massive distortions of the truth and Romney needs to hit back every single time...he has the money and the organization to clearly and forcefully refute every lie while making documentaries of all the violence and fraud that occurred during the Obama presidency...Obama's storm troopers occupying the capitol in Wisconsin, and bringing in members of SEIU, communist and socialist parties to occupy a banker's property while his son was home alone and terrified; of the head of the Union crying out to Obama: "Obama, we are your army!!!" and more so much more...Romney should not play nice!

Doctor Right| 4.13.12 @ 11:43AM

BIGGEST difference between Romney and McCain?

McCain is a DUMB guy.

Occam's Tool| 4.13.12 @ 12:38PM

Romney is a number cruncher---apparently has an IQ of 122, which I suspect is an underestimate (I'm in the 140 or so range myself, if not higher)---but to do the work at Bain, you must be very good at quantitative work. The MIT trained Bibi was very impressed with Mitt's brain.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:51PM

McCain was a fighter pilot with balls bigger than your ass, Doctor Wrong. McCain endured years of torture and captivity and gave Uncle Ho the finger rather than take a parole and give him a propaganda play. McCain was a MAN.

Meanwhile, Little Lord MittleRoy was traipsing about the Loire Valley tasting wines. He has never served this country and considers his strongest act of patriotism to have been "saving" the Salt Lake Olympics.

He is a metrosexual and a to-the-manor-born liberal Ruling Class elitist.

No wonder he's your guy.

W| 4.13.12 @ 2:29PM

Tef
Mitt was a Mormon missionary assigned by his Church to France for 30 months, after his first year at Stanford. He lost 30 months when he could have been in college, and graduated sooner. If you knew any facts you would know that Mitt does not drink alcohol like most Mormons. He gave away all his inheritance from his father to Brigham Young U. He has earned his money. And he graduated in the top 5% of his class at Harvard in a four year program for a combinedn law and MBA degree.
You sound like Purp. Class envy.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 2:54PM

Where would you rather have been in 1967, W---hanging from your arms in the Hanoi Hilton or hanging out in southern France?

Romney's not a very good Mormon, despite having been a bishop. Had he been, he would have been pro-life and not had to claim a false conversion to the pro-life cause brought about not by a Mormon elder but by a Harvard bioethicist.

You literally cannot make this stuff up---Romney really is THAT big a weasel.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 2:55PM

And of course Romney bet Rick Perry $10,000 in a televised debate.

Mormons don't gamble.

W| 4.13.12 @ 5:12PM

Teflon,
That is a stupid question.
If you don't want to vote for Romney, don't vote for him. But what is your problem with the personal attacks about his religion, his work, and even his hair? You really sound unhinged.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:35PM

I haven't said anything criticizing his religion but rather his piss-poor practice of it. Mormons are some of the finest and best Americans you'll find---one common trait of faithful Mormons is how pro-life they are. Something Romney---a bishop, for God's sake!---apparently didn't know.

Romney's Mormonism is the only plus he's got for me. If he were a better Mormon----which requires things like honesty, integrity, and standing for time-honored conservative principles---I'd be voting for him.

W| 4.13.12 @ 11:42PM

You are full of it, Tef. You voted to elect Clinton when you could have voted for Dole, a patriotic, clean cut, honest, genuine war hero. That says all we need to know about you.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:42PM

At least you're not a namecaller, W.

You are a mindless Republican whore who voted for the tax collector for the welfare state because he had the magic (-R) after his name.

You're not a conservative---you're a RINO. And a particularly stupid, weakminded, hypocritical, loathesome, and tragic one at that.

If there's a printing mistake on your ballot and Obama's listed as a Republican, we have no doubt whom you'll be voting for.

W| 4.14.12 @ 2:41PM

Hey Idiot Tef,
Newt called Dole a tax collector for the welfare state. When Newt needed $300,000 to pay his ethics fine, guess who he borrowed the money from? Dole.
So you did not vote for Dole and helped elect Clinton. Can you try to give us a logical argument based on facts without your silly sexual innuendos to justify electing Clinton/Algore over Dole and Kemp?
And tell us the facts and logic, without your silly sexual references, why Obama/Biden will be better for our country than Romney/Rubio or Romney/Ryan?
Take your time and consult with Clint, Purp, and the rest of your crew.
You can't make any arguments so now you are further into fantasyland and imagining Obama as a Republican. Is this how you are justifying voting to elect Obama?
Moron.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 6:06PM

Tell Rove to slowdown---I can't hear you over all your grunting.

First off, Bob Dole lost to Bill Clinton by 379 to 159 electoral college votes, 31 to 19 states, and by 8.3 million voters. Ross Perot managed another 8 MM voters. Dole also lost your home state by almost 10 points, meaning you people have a lot of 'splainin' to do.

Dole, contrary to your ridiculous earlier claim, had a significantly lower lifetime ACU rating than Rick Santorum does today and ran as a moderate to boot. Dole never met a spending program he didn't like and despised tax cuts---he fought Reagan tooth and nail along with Bush Pere and sought to undermine the very tax cuts that broke the Carter recession's back and led to the largest and most sustained economic boom in our nation's history.

In short, Newt was right about Dole, and conservatives knew it.

Thus we stayed home in droves in 1996, after having delivered just 2 years before the most remarkable Congressional turnover in the GOP's favor since 1948 up until that point (Tea Party---which you despise---just delivered an even bigger one).

What happened between 1994 and 1996 was the GOP Establishment resisted the Contract with America tooth and nail and supported the Democrats b.s. ethics claims against Newt Gingrich, the architect of the 1994 victories. Rather than pick somebody who was part of the 1994 revolution, Dole went with a guy who'd been out of office for a long time and was no longer the conservative diehard he had been in the Reagan administration and in Congress. So Kemp phoned it in, Dole phoned it in, and a bunch of you RINO whores pissed away the gains conservatives brought you in 1994, giving Bill Clinton a new lease on life.

YOU helped elect Clinton, buddy. Moreover, you set up the same RINO playbook we've got today---so congratulations on helping to elect Obama too.

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:17AM

Clint/Teflon
Idiot, you voted for Keyes instead of Dole, and you did not vote for Ford instead of Carter. You helped elect Clinton and Carter, Moron.
Tell us why Obama will be a better president than Romney, that is the issue. Skip your sissy gutter talk and focus on the issue.

RCV| 4.13.12 @ 3:43PM

Romney is a decent and impressive guy, and will give Obama a real run for his money. I could well end up buying Ocaam that steak in November.

On the bright side for us Democrats, I feel a lot less trepidation at the thought of a Romney presidency than any of his opponents. He is a very competent technocrat, without a lot of core convictions about anything. He will seek compromise and aim at middle-of-the-road solutions. On social issues, he will lean more to the middle than most of his GOP colleagues, and I am pretty confident that (1) we won't see any moves on his part to undo Obama-era reforms on gay rights issues; (2) his judicial appointments will be pro-business but not social issue conservatives; (3) even if he goes along with efforts to repeal the Health Reform Act, he will press for his own reforms that will include many of the things Democrats have pressed for.

And ... Ann Romney will be a big, big asset to his campaign. She's a remarkable woman, and Hillary Rosen's attack on her was the biggest gift a Democrat could have given the GOP. Michelle Obama was wise in quickly coming to Ann's defense, but it was overshadowed by Rosen's stupid and offensive attack. The damage is done, and it will make up for a lot of ground that Santorum and others lost for the GOP with the women's vote.

Occam's Tool| 4.16.12 @ 2:44AM

Save us from socialized medicine, RCV. Romney will be on a shorter leash than you think. Personally, I think 3 or 4 things would help with medicine: 1) loser-pays tort reform, like Texas. 2)nationwide insurance selling, so BCBS Alabama gets to compete nationwide (good people). 3) eliminate coverage for illegal aliens, exempt illegals from EMTALA. 4) After all this, THEN exempt pre-existing conditions---you can exempt pre-existing conditions or you can cover illegals. You really can't do both.

RCV| 4.16.12 @ 1:05PM

Instead of loser-pays tort reform, I would prefer elimination or severe restrictions on punitive damages. Also, I fear the public health consequences of not treating illegals, who are far more apt to have TB and other diseases that need to be checked. And I don't want sick kids untreated, period.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 5:40PM

Ruh-Roh, so Romney is an ELITE? Harvard top 5%? Multiple degrees? Wow.... And he's liberal minded, but in the closet until he gets your nomination. You'll see. And you believe this guy that lies constantly? Leopards don't change their spots. He's trying so hard to be super conservative, he's so far right he's left.
When his father died, he already was wealthy, so he gave the inheritance away. So what? He skipped out of the country to avoid the draft - like so many other right wing lame-ass draft dodgers (I mean politicians - Bush, Cheney, Gingrich, Romney).
Everyone earns their money - so what? Most don't earn it on the backs of others - but Romney did. Gordon Gecko anyone?

W| 4.13.12 @ 6:35PM

Purp,
You sound like Teflon. Mitt was a missionary for 30 months after his first year at Stanford. If he wanted to avoid the draft he would have stayed at Stanford for four years. Or lied, like Bill Clinton.
You don't earn money because you do not work.
Do you have any degrees?

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 11:05PM

More than you i'm sure...

W| 4.13.12 @ 11:43PM

Still learning how to spell GED so you can take the test Purp?

Mimi| 4.13.12 @ 7:07PM

At least we get that information! "O" should be forced to give his this time around. He got away from all the rules back in 2008.

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:38PM

Okay Goober from NC!!!!!!!!!

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 11:27PM

Biggest Difference Between Rommney And McCain.

McCain Wasn't A Chickenhawk.

JP| 4.13.12 @ 10:45AM

I am hoping against hope that Ann Coulter is correct, and Mitt is the "real deal". But, I know deep down that Mitt will disapoint. Here are a few things to keep an eye out for:

1)Will Mitt's campaign focus its strongest rebuke on conservatives and not Obama (something that both Bush's and McCain were famous for)?

2) As the campaign unfolds will Mitt present a agenda that will unite both conservatives and moderate Republicans? Or will he just offer up a mish-mash of wonkish proposals that are soon forgotten? Will he do what Reagan did and offer up concrete reforms of say, our tax code? Something sure to draw viscious attacks from the Left, but give voters a concrete reason to vote for him.

3)Will Mitt just sit back and allow Obama and his minions to visciously attack him, his family and his religion a la George Bush?

JT| 4.13.12 @ 11:00AM

When you are stuck with a weather vane politician like Romney, and that is the case here, then you become the wind and keep it pointed where it needs to be.

Ammo Guy| 4.13.12 @ 11:05AM

Zackly

Vern Crisler| 4.13.12 @ 11:30AM

Dream on....

Seabee| 4.13.12 @ 12:01PM

Yeah, and whats your solution Field Marshall? Sit back and bitch and whine? The first order of business is getting this clown out of the white house and deal with the RINO and keep the Communist from destroying the rest of the Supreme court. If you don't want to participate, then the rest of us who do will do the job for you.

Vern Crisler| 4.13.12 @ 4:00PM

Keep on dreamin'.

Seabee| 4.13.12 @ 7:48PM

Shame others have to carry your
pathetic @ss, whiner.

Vern Crisler | 4.13.12 @ 10:25PM

Still laughing at you pathetic Mittbots....

Will Not Vote For Rmoney| 4.13.12 @ 1:53PM

1) Yes.
2) No.
3) Yes.

Will Not Vote For Rmoney| 4.13.12 @ 1:57PM

Also JP, Ann Coulter(geist) no longer has any credibility & sounds utterly insane with her railing against conservatives who are not for Rmoney. Don't trust anything she spews out.

RCV| 4.13.12 @ 3:45PM

Ann Coulter has always been utterly insane. It's only recently that conservatives have come to realize what the rest of us have known for a long time.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 4:07PM

She dated OLBERMANN.

RCV| 4.13.12 @ 5:50PM

Now there's a pair! It's Carville-Matlin on LSD.

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:42PM

No she didn't fool. He came onto her and she laughed at him and his ag-college school degree and his toupe rightfully. Tell the frigin truth if you know it!!!!!!!!!!!

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:42PM

Oh, that's right. She dated Oldefarte.

Even worse.

Occam's Tool| 4.16.12 @ 2:45AM

Coulter dated the Penthouse Magazine's founder's son, I believe.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 5:43PM

Well, he's liberal minded, but in the closet until he gets your nomination. You'll see. And you believe this guy that lies constantly? Leopards don't change their spots. He's trying so hard to be super conservative, he's so far right he's left.
Ann Coulter was right - "Nominate Romney and we'll lose" ... Obama 2012

Oldefarte| 4.13.12 @ 6:43PM

Closet? You mean like that LGBT mother of two who just critisized Romney's wife??

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 11:06PM

Who cares about a CNN pundit? That's like caring what Sean Hannity or Bill O the Clown said. Idiot.

From the Desk of Media Matters| 4.14.12 @ 11:36AM

Penelope-Idiot Pansy-Idiot Putz-Idiot Pink-Idiot Pelosi-Idiot & Rachel-Idiot Maddow-Idiot's Idiot-Bitch,

Stop embarrassing the human race Idiot.

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots know that the answer is that you idiot care about your idiot question "Who cares" since you idiot provided a link above to the idiot Ezra Klein a well known idiot discredited joke who is an idiot pundit on the idiot network CNN.

Even our other bottom rung MM mindless retarded parrots refer to you idiot as "Idiot".

Stop embarrassing the human race idiot.

- MM staff

The American Hitman| 4.13.12 @ 10:47AM

Its going to be an Ugly-fest. Super negative on both sides (Romney has yet to articulate a positive rationale for his campaign) with Wall Street bailout money buying the ad dumps for both side.

Most sane Americans will recoil in horror. Record low turnout, America loses in either case.

JP| 4.13.12 @ 10:56AM

I beg to differ. I think most Americans realize what is at stake. This isn't 1996. I think turn-out amongst conservatives could out-do what Rove managed in 2004 (a record turn-out of some 54 million voters).

Tommy Frisco| 4.13.12 @ 12:19PM

If you want a big turn-out in November, you're going to have to stop mentioning Karl Rove's name. That "architect" has almost single-handedly destroyed the Republican Party, as far as I'm concerned. He brought us compassionate conservatism, he advised GWB to ignore attacks from the Left, he threw Tea Party candidates under the bus, and has now brought us Mitt Romney.

JP| 4.13.12 @ 1:28PM

Yes, Rove doesn't have a philosphical center. He's a technician. But, he's one of the most gifted political techincians of our lifetime. In 2000 he engineered the defeat of ALGORE by surgically concentrating on key voting districts, which allowed Bush to beat ALGORE in both Tennesse (ALGORE's homestate) and West Virginia (a Democratic stronghold if there ever was one). Without these 2 states, ALGORE wins. The 2000 elections should have been a breeze for Gore.

In 2004, Bush's approval numbers were plummetting. Yet, Rove's get-out-the-vote efforts in key voting districts resulted in record votes for Bush (he ganered more votes than Reagan did in either 1980 or 1984). If it wasn't for his masterful polling across the entire country, Kerry would have won hands down. Kerry's campaign also garnered record turn-out. Thier own internal polling underestimated GOP turnout by 5-8%. Rove, pulled out one of the biggest upsets since 1948.

I agree that Rove is no conservative. He could just as easily worked for a Dem. Bush was fortunate, however, to have him on his team. And yes, much of Bush's problems governing this nation stemmed from Rove's advice to him. But, we would be re-miss if we do not recognize his talents.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 1:48PM

Oh please. It's a center-right country---had Bush secured his base and ran on Reaganite principles he would have done a lot better than a popular vote loss and a minor electoral college win.

He didn't even match his old man against Dukakis---when Bush I ran as Reagan's third term.

JP| 4.13.12 @ 3:50PM

I'm only going on the results and not subjective anecdotal evidence.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 4:09PM

JP, would you please look up the electoral college results? You're not going on facts at all.

Bush II never came close to Bush I's whupping of Dukakis. It was of Reaganesque proportions because Bush I ran as Reagan III. Look it up.

Will Not Vote For Rmoney| 4.13.12 @ 1:59PM

This bears repeating over & over again. Thanks Tommy.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:53PM

Rove managed a popular vote loss in 2000 and eked out an electoral college victory by the slimmest of margins in 2004---both against godawful Democrat candidates.

Look at Reagan's two wins and tell me who "The Architect" was.

Tommy Frisco| 4.13.12 @ 1:27PM

Yes, as far as I'm concerned, Rove and GWB left the GOP in shambles in 2008 and left the door wide open for Obama. As much as I liked Cheney, they should have replaced him in 2004 with a younger conservative willing to run for POTUS in 2008.

Rove clearly has a taste for big-gov't moderates and a strong distaste for conservatives.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 1:50PM

Good point on Cheney. But the Bushes have never been about coattails or party, much less movement.

JP| 4.13.12 @ 1:34PM

But, Bush won in Tennesse and West Viginia -2 states that all pollster predicted would go to ALGORE. This was the key to Bush's 2000 victory. ALGORE was supposed to win. It was a Democratic Party year, otherwise. Rove ran adds in Tennesse and West Virginia that hammered ALGORE on gun control (something ALGORE was and still is for). He organized precinct captains to begin operating get-out-the-vote operations weeks before the election, He quietly pulled off a huge victory in what was otherwise a Democratic night. ALGORE never knew what hit him. Remember, ALGORE could still run on the economy, low fuel prices, balanced budgets, and 8 years of peace and prosperity.

Rove replicated his strategy in 2004 in Ohio, Virginia, and Colorado. Kerry was polling big in all of these states. They had no clue that GOP turn-out in these swing states would be so high.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 1:50PM

Ahem---look at how his old man did running on Reagan's coattails:

ALGORE was running upstream and against pretty significant Clinton fatigue. He was not a strong candidate and made the mistake of running hard left---he had previously been a conservative Democrat of the sort that used to exist before Roe v. Wade killed 'em off.

Nick| 4.13.12 @ 1:57PM

I'd hate to disagree with you JP, because I normally agree with your comments. But, how was 2000 a "huge victory"? It was so close, SCOTUS had to stop algore's attempt to steal the election.

And, the only reason it was so close was because Governor Bush ran as a "compassionate conservative." The brain-child of Rove, I believe. He tried to walk the tight-rope of the mushy-middle, and almost lost for his efforts.

Compare that to Ronaldus Magnus, as Teflon93 mentioned, above.
As Rush always says, "Conservatism. It works every time it's tried!"

JP| 4.13.12 @ 3:58PM

I think one of the biggest contributing factor in ALGORE's loss was Clinton Fatigue. ALGORE in fact intended to run like an incumbent. Remember, this was pre-911. Many of the then "moderates" went over to Clinton in 1996, and the GOP lost seats in '98.

Bush had his work cut out for him. And conservatives back then overwhelming backed him in 2000. As a matter of fact, conservatives knew instinctively that ALGORE would be a disaster. The key was turn-out. ALGORE would promise more Clintoneque good times, but without the bimbo erruptions. It is telling that turn-out amongst Dems wasn't as high as the GOP. One would think that the opposite would be true. But, the GOP implosions in Pennsylvania, Illinois, and California (as well as to a lesser degree New York) would continue. Rove recognized that these states were losses (not even Bush's Compassionate Conservativism would save him there). Rove concentrated instead on solidifying the GOP in the South and Midwest and poured money into Tennesse and West Virginia. Even Tim Russert was amazed at Bush's win there.

Nick| 4.14.12 @ 12:11AM

JP,

Algore only lost by a hair's breadth. If Governor Bush would have run as an unabashed conservative, he would have won in a landslide. Rush has condemned the bogus term compassionate conservative repeatedly over the past decade.

"And conservatives back then overwhelming backed him in 2000."

They did? I was always skeptical of Mr. Bush. Alan Keyes, in the fall of 1997 on his radio show, spent much time on a New York Slimes op-ed then Governor Bush had written. In it, he praised Bubba "The Rapist" Clinton's triangulation, and, said that was what the GOP needed to do. From that moment on, I always distrusted the second Bush.

Plus, after Super Tuesday, it was only the governor, McLame, and Mr. Keyes left in the race. Who else were conservatives going to support?

Running as a just barely conservative results in the closest election in U.S. history. Running as a moderate (read: liberal) Republican means you lose.

W| 4.13.12 @ 6:41PM

Nick,
Goldwater got trounced in 64 and he was the most conservative candidate other than Calvin Coolidge. It ususally works, but not always.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:37PM

Yes, when a young Democrat president gets his head blown off in Dallas no Republican will win the election the next year.

W| 4.13.12 @ 11:47PM

Maybe not, but he would not have lost in a landslide with a Dem senate and House resulting in the Great Society nanny state and Vietnam. But of course you probably liked LBJ because he ruined the country like Obama is doing and will do. And you prefer Truman to Nixon and Ford.

Nick| 4.14.12 @ 12:15AM

W,

That doesn't meant that Rockefeller would have beat LBJ. As Teflon93 noted, no Republican could probably have won that year. (I wasn't born yet, so I don't know a whole lot about that campaign, I'm afraid.) But, I don't think you can say it was conservatism that cost Senator Goldwater that election.

W| 4.14.12 @ 11:40AM

Nick,
I did not say conservatism cost the loss. LBJ ran a dirty campaign painting Goldwater as crazy and unhinged. Bill Moyers made an ad showing an atomic bomb exploding and little girl. Classy. They said Goldwater would expand the Vietnam War. They painted Goldwater as a racist and out of touch because he voted against the Civil Rights Act.
Goldwater was more libertarian than what passes for conservatives today. He opposed government involvement in the economy, much like Ron Paul, except Goldwater favored a strong military and foreign policy. I believe Goldwater after 64 stated he was pro choice on abortion because he did not want the government in that area. He was consistent in his beliefs and outspoken, and had said many things that the Dems used against him.
I was too young to vote but would have voted for him. His book "Conscience of a Conservative" is great and was written by Brent Bozell.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:44PM

You would have voted for Goldwater because he had the Magic (-R). You'd have voted for Nelson Rockefeller---Goldwater's opposite---had he been the nominee for the same reason.

People who worship the jersey know nothing about football.

W| 4.14.12 @ 2:50PM

Wow, what a brilliant comment. Let us stick to reality and can you name one Democrat that would have been a better president than his Republican opponent?
Let me help you, moron:
1. Bush or Gore?
2. Bush or Kerry?
3. McCain or Obama?
4. Dole or Clinton? we already know you like Clinton.
5. Ford or Carter. You like Carter.
You like Truman instead of Dewey, Nixon, and Ford.
6. and finally, Obama or Romney. You like Obama.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 7:14PM

W (for whore) - I just lost a post analyzing every election since the founding of the GOP in 1860. Since that bit of brilliance is now the internet equivalent of the 13th tribe, let's do a more interesting one.

1960---Kennedy vs. Nixon. Kennedy was the more conservative candidate---this was prior to the realignment and the GOP was almost exclusively Northeastern liberal RINOs (though Reagan and Goldwater were coming). Nixon was the more staunch anti-Communist and fresh off HUAC, but Kennedy was far and away the more economically conservative, as he showed with his enormous tax cuts, kicking off the 60s boom. The Beatles lived in the States thanks to Kennedy's tax reforms. And unlike Nixon, Kennedy didn't do price controls. Of course, the taping system Nixon got caught using during Watergate was installed by Kennedy, and Kennedy was a complete sexual dirtbag, but those are probably things you find laudatory, W. I'd go Kennedy, although of course that would be a lesser of evils election.

As noted, I voted Bush II twice, McCain, Keys, and for Ford vs Carter I would have written in Reagan.

Your support for Gerald Ford is a real indictment of your RINO whoredom because a) that man was nearly as big a disaster as Nixon in a much shorter time and b) there was NOTHING conservative about him. But for Jimmuh he was the second nastiest ex-president. Although the guy was an All American center and 10 times the athlete Chevy Chase would have been had he been answering W's online pharmacy ads.

W| 4.13.12 @ 6:39PM

Bush lost votes from evangelicals the weekend before the election when the news broke about his DUI. He should have disclosed the DUI early in the primaries instead of waiting for the Dems to leak it. That was a mistake by Rove and Bush.

PJ| 4.13.12 @ 10:49AM

I was born, raised, & educated in NYC. I remember well when David Dinkins became mayor. He was the most race-divisive mayor of the city. Everyone was disgusted w/him but his own. I kept saying to myself at the time, "Why wouldn't a black man who was probably a victim of racism during his youth, not want to eliminate this injustice from society but instead encourages it to grow?" I then grew up!!

William Tucker is right. Obama is following the exact path of David Dinkins & will lose the election as long as the GOP candidate stays on message & remains optimistic.

PolishKnight| 4.13.12 @ 12:23PM

I felt dejavu all the way back in 2009 during Obama's inauguration. New Jersey friends were staying and they acted as if Obama was the second coming. When I voted for Reagan and he won, I was happy but I didn't worship him (I disagreed with many of his policies and continue to this day.) I was wondering what these Obama worshipers were going to feel like after they sobered up.

Many of them are going to be like former Dinkin's supporters who vote Republican in secret and therefore get to enjoy having it both ways: being a true believer leftist and sometimes Republican voter. In some ways, I wish Dinkins had never left. Unlike DC where the Feds bail out leftist race politics voters, NYC isn't in a similar position and their own ideology bashes Wall Street. So I wish Dinkins had stayed and the place had gone to hell.

The parallels are amazing since we have a similar race based case in the media (Martin/Zimmerman) and based upon the evidence so far, it appears that it will be in the news in October and a most likely acquittal. How will it look for the utopian diversity paradise when riots are burning in the streets, $5 gasoline, and massive debt?

John - TMF| 4.13.12 @ 11:06AM

It always takes "tough love" to get the addict on the wagon for good. (or at least long enough that he learns that he will forever be a recovering addict and must make a purposeful effort to stay there.)

This nation is addicted to borrowed money. It is addicted to the government largesse that comes as a necessary part of that borrowed money. This nation, a tad more than half now are 100% consumers of other people's wealth, is addicted to ease, sloth, indulgence, and venality.

Our big cities are unsustainable, they consume vast amounts of capital and resources far beyond their borders. They produce vast amounts of poverty, pathology, and dependence. City dwellers are renters. The property they should own is so outlandishly expensive that they can only lease a portion of it, and then demand that the government control those costs.

This nation is ruled by the big cities. The last 10 electoral maps have the story to tell. Less than 10% of the physical land mass of our nation rules us. We are exactly where our Founding Fathers feared we would be. Serfs to government in service of the whims of the populations of the unpropertied. We are robbed of our capital, denied our rights to profit from our labor.

We are a nation of addicts and a co-dependent enablers.

The addict needs to suffer the pain of hitting rock bottom, or he will never reform and make his life better. And the enablers need to stand up, and stop offering a drink, a roof, and cash to burn. It is time to let the addict crash, even if it is massively painful to us, too.

I will not vote for Romney. He is the next drink to calm the DT's. He's the cash to buy the booze or next fix. He's the roof under which to drift into a stupor.

So, I am standing back. I refuse. I will no longer enable the addicts that are the Democrat voters of this nation. I will also show the enablers that they do not offer mercy, only endless futures of dependency.

Mercy requires of it a price. Redemption can only be gained when repentance is real, heartfelt, and permanent.

We are currently not ready to accept the pain of withdrawal and the work of staying on the wagon.

Derek is right. This nation, flat on its back and at rock bottom in 2014 might just save itself.

I will vote for Conservatives only. Willard Milton Romney is a Limousine Liberal Democrat masquerading as a Republican; therefore I WILL NOT vote for him, EVER!

Time for tough love. Hitting bottom will be painful, and the DT's will be agony. Having the self-discipline to allow it to run its course... that is going to be the toughest thing that we have ever done as Conservatives.

Voting for Romney is the Republican version of "Hope and Change". You hold your nose hoping that he will change. The only thing that he changes is his clothes. Same man, new Gucci's.

r/TMF

LiveFreeOrDie| 4.13.12 @ 11:48AM

A agree with your sentiment but you assume there would be some sort of recovery after a "crash and burn" but in the case of two liberal SC appointments there will no recovery. The game will be OVER.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:54PM

Romney chooses liberal judges:

W| 4.13.12 @ 12:04PM

Since it is clear you will vote for Obama, why do you think we care about your daily drivel that you will not vote for Romney but will vote for Obama? Why don't you just give us your reasons why you will vote for Obama?

John - TMF| 4.13.12 @ 12:17PM

Again... just for sport.

I am not going to vote for Obummer. Neither am I going to vote for Romney, and if enough people were disgusted by both of these false choices, just maybe we'd be on the road to that desired recovery.

Funny about LiveFreeorDie... didn't David Souter come from that neck of the woods... and that governor... Romney's court choices are just as liberal as any liberal's will ever be.

I do not vote for liberals regardless of the letter of the alphabet they chose to stick to their foreheads.

This nation will be here in four years. The continent will not sink (who knows, maybe the Yellowstone Shield volcano goes off and all of this is moot because it will effectively rub us all off the map.)

The Fear and Panic is now bordering on the comic, maybe even farcical. Obummer runs nothing but his mouth, and frankly he doesn't run that unless someone tells him what to say via the telepromter. Regardless of whether he is elected or not, the people who really run this nation will still be in the places where they run it. Harry Reid will still be the most powerful single man in Washington, and the Media will still be the propaganda organ of the Democrat Party.

Romney is weak, ineffectual, and LIBERAL! I will not vote for a Liberal, ever.

I'll just write in somebody who is an actual real Conservative, sit back and watch the fireworks.

Fimian for the House, Allen for Senate..

-TMF

LiveFreeOrDie| 4.13.12 @ 12:46PM

"Romney's court choices are just as liberal as any liberal's will ever be."

Do you really think Romney would nominate the "wise latina" or Kagen??? Come on man.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:55PM

Look at his RECORD. He was a politician for 28 years---he has one.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 5:50PM

You're just as closed minded as an dittohead and it's very clear now.

Anthony| 4.13.12 @ 11:16AM

It is Romney's race to lose, but more importantly, it's America's fate that lies is in the balance.
Romney cannot just remain positive, that is RINO loser strategy right out of Dole and McLame.
Romney has to fight like hell, take the gloves off, as he did with his R competition and take it directly to Obozo.
This is going to be a very, very, ugly campaign, it was destined from the beginning because Obozo and his scum henchmen are all in to insure Obozo has a final term to destroy America. Scorched Earth, as we have never seen before.
Romney had better realize, because this is what he wanted, that he is the one standing between Obozo Marxism and our Constitutional Republic.
If he fails to fight, America dies. If he fights, America wins, and who knows, he may even get morons like Telfon to vote for him.
So Romney, fight as if America is at stake, because IT IS!!!!

Tommy Frisco| 4.13.12 @ 11:18AM

Mitt Romney is going to be our nominee? A guy who is more more of a big Gov't RINO than John McCain? Either our primary system is really screwed up or too many conservatives bought into the "Romney is more likely to defeat Obama" mantra led by the MSM and the GOP Establishment. Guys like Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich, and Fred Thompson do not stand a chance of winning a GOP nomination because conservatives start saying they're not conservative enough and then end up voting for the most liberal candidate we have. This sucks and we need to stop doing this to ourselves every four years!

Okay. This is the hand dealt to us: Romney vs Obama(?). We can vote a straight Republican ticket in November or we can stay home and allow the serial liar using the fake IDs to be re-elected. This is not like 2008. We now have a POTUS and AG who are threatening and promoting racial violence in our streets. Does anyone here see that as a difficult choice to make? If so, then you are not a conservative patriot. You're not even a moderate patriot. Just shut-up and go away!

The rest of us need to wake up and man up! Replacing the Bush Republican Establishment will take another 10 years or more. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen if we are diligent. The primaries are not over. There's still time to support solid conservatives running for office. SUPPORT them and STOP bickering and complaining!

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:56PM

It can happen in one cycle. Look at how quickly the Republicans replaced the Whigs and won the White House.

It only requires BELIEVING IN SOMETHING.

Tommy Frisco| 4.13.12 @ 1:42PM

I understand your thinking, Teflon, and I sympathize with you. I had days, too, when I said I would not vote for Romney in November, but we cannot risk allowing Obama, or whatever his name is, to be re-elected! Period! End of story!

WE allowed Romney to get this far, now we must give him the win in November, give him a majority in both Houses of Congress, hold his feet to the fire, and keep sending strong conservatives to DC.

If Obama wins re-election or if Romney wins and does what we know he wants to do, then let's talk about a Federalist or a Constitutionalist Party candidate for 2016. Just consider me skeptical about the success of a third party supported by conservatives. We haven't had a very good track record for supporting conservative candidates. We keep picking our conservative candidates to pieces and then complaining that the Establishement force-feeds us the lib/moderates.

OK? This is not 2008. Our current POTUS clearly hates the America we love and he is a fraud and an imposter. He must be removed and imprisoned.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 1:54PM

We didn't, though. We came out in force to support the GOP in 2010; the reward was Boehner and McConnell refusing to fight Obama and picking this liberal to be the standard bearer.

It's the same playbook as 2008---didn't work then, won't work now.

So why are we letting them run it?

Look up the history of the Whigs and the GOP. Note how quickly the latter replaced the former---and won the White House and Congress.

THAT is what needs to happen.

The Republican Party is dead. It stands for nothing. It is corrupt to the bone.

Let it go so we can build a conservative party. The Tea Party has the foundation laid already.

Will Not Vote For Rmoney| 4.13.12 @ 2:38PM

One thing I'll never understand is why, why people, especially Republican voters put more faith in politicians, epecially the dreadful sort The Stupid Party keep dishing out each election, than in God to right the wrong course this country is on with the current administration. Each election I hear the same thing from Republican voters, "we need to save the country & only ------------ (enter name of favorite northeastern liberal Repulican of Stupid Party "Establishment" in blank) can save it! Vote for him or else you're a Democrat!" Bull! I put my faith in the Almighty to bring about change in this country, not liberal Republicans! If Republican voters put as much faith in God as they do in "the lastest liberal Republican in line" to keep this country on the right track the country wouldn't be in the mess it is currently in. In fact, the liberal Republicans are just as culpable as the Democrats for the current state of affairs, but I'm an Obama supporter if I don't support the latest, lamest "Establishment" savior! People spewing this rubbish are a huge reason Rmoney will go down in defeat in November. If I can't vote for a candidate after researching their record & listening to my conscience it's not happening folks. Those voting for the "Establishment" favorite will just keep accepting the status quo & are voting out of fear of man instead of fear of God. God is in total control & is why I won't hide under my bed if Obama is re-elected because The Stupid Party can't get their act together. God can do what liberal Republicans will never do. God is all powerful, while liberal Republicans are powerless & in search of political power at the expense of their voters. Who would you put your faith in?

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 2:52PM

It's because we are conservatives first and Republicans second; they Republicans first and only.

If a truly conservative Democrat ran against Mitt Romney, you and I would vote for the Democrat. The MittBots and their admirers would not.

We elect politicians to DO something, they to BE something.

It's really that simple.

And it really pisses them off when we note it.

Tim the Enchanter| 4.13.12 @ 4:29PM

Some choice we have- between worse and worser (grammatical error intentional)!

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:39PM

Same one we always get from the GOP Establishment, Tim.

They set the primary schedule.
They provide the staff.
They control the party money flow.
They set the primary rules (remember the late change in VA that disqualified everyone but Romney and Paul?)

Other than that, they have no power.

LMajito| 4.13.12 @ 11:26AM

totally agree...be positive and show the country what you want to do not what the other guy did...besides, now that the primary fight is pretty much over is time to really look at mitt, his roots and current views...

for all intents and purposes, mitt's story is one of those suceess stories that one could say '...only in America...'

his dad a mexican, immigrated (legally) to the us and mitt grew up here...he didn't start out with a silver spoon...paid his dues and legally made his money...that he parks it now outside the us, so what? this is a free country...

when his dad died and left him some dough, he gave it away contrast that with the gas bag from omaha that wants to give his money away (but only after he dies and then he wants it targeted at family planning in the 3rd world) and wants to pay more in taxes but can't explain why he just don't write out a check (or his company for that matter).

so he's a mormon...all of the mormons i have met have been decent folks...so his family has not seen financial challenges for the last couple of decades, isn't this the dream of every real normal dad?

he may not be a perfect this or that but compared with the amateurs in charge of the US, he looks pretty good.

i liked newt because his intellectual arguments and actually didn't shy away from vigorous debate. but his discipline derailed his wagon and that's that...

but now i support mitt for the oval office and will carry this message to the spanish speaking folks that actually vote (not the ones screaming on the street with mexican flags that usually do not)

Tammie de Cortez Haynes| 4.13.12 @ 11:37AM

Oh come on.
America's fate?

Endangered by a weak second term flyweight? Who cant get along witht half the power brokers in his own party?

And we're going to be "saved" by an incompetent fuddy duddy. One so dense that he fibs about being "pro-life", but who thinks its is okay to kill a child if somebody gets raped?

Pell Mell| 4.13.12 @ 11:42AM

Good for you, John!

Given a choice, you've decided to stay in your underground bomb shelter eating canned goods and watching cable TV rather than voting for the lesser of two evils, as you see it.

In which case, you get what you deserve and forfeit the legitimacy of complaining about the result, whatever it is.

John - TMF| 4.13.12 @ 12:04PM

Your world is an unsophisticated mess of false dichotomies...

1. There are more than two candidates on any presidential ballot, including a write-in. I need not choose between false choices... that is a child's game that leads to failure. Here... choose... Pot or Hash.. which one? -I choose neither. Answer yes or no.. Have you stopped beating your wife yet? -Have you?

Get this and get it loud and clear. I do not operate on a Hegelian Dialectic - I do not recognize false binary choices. Life is not binary.

2. I am a free man who takes the decisions of a free man, and what I choose to do is to vote for NEITHER Obummer NOR Romney. That is a choice, and a vote, and if enough people did it, neither would win.

ok... enough engaging with pushy Mittbots.

-TMF

Anthony| 4.13.12 @ 12:37PM

John, Wow, what a load of self laudatory bullshit.
You can take your Hegelian Dialectic and shove it, because that is precisely what Obozo has in mind for fools like you.
You ain't seen unsophisticated messes or false dichotomies yet, but you will real soon. What's coming under Obozo will cure you of your pompus self laudatory bull.
P.S. And what's with all this Mittbots crap, few of us are Romney supporters, but we do live in the real world, or does living in the real world constitute living a false binary choice?

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:57PM

More "persuasiveness" from Mittbot drones.

I hope Karl Rove has better talking points or Obama's taking ALL the independent votes...

John - TMF| 4.13.12 @ 1:05PM

Wow yourself... what a great way to win supporters, eh? If you can't manage to scare them into agreeing with your chosen course of action, why not just bully them?

This is great political theater... yeah.. I'm old and gray enough, and studied enough history to see the game. It's the same one it always is...

Victims of a con job are often recruited into the con to use as scolds and bullies among the other victims to keep the con alive.

God will end all this, no one else. We will be here the day after the election, regardless of the winner. We will be here on January 21, 2013. The world will still be as dangerous then as it is now.

Please, enough of the hyperbolic doomsday cult. I have had it up to here [hand above the eyes that are also rolling in sarcastic wonder] with all of the "sky is falling" prophesy spewing from every direction.

The Fable is actually called Henny-Penny... and when it ended, Foxy-Loxy didn't need to eat for a while.

Well I'm the big bad Bear... "Shoo you silly chicken, can't you see the fox just wants lunch?"

- Peace, Love, and Bobby Sherman

Anthony| 4.13.12 @ 11:56AM

Are you truly that blind as to where a 2nd Obozo term would take America?
Some "flyweight" Obozo has turned out to be. He has destroyed our economy, weakened us militarily across the globe, sucked up to our enemies and stabbed our friends in the back, and operates completely outside his constiutional authority, without a word of protest by Congress. He has "threatened" the Supreme Court, and now has Americans at each others throats.
Wow, good thing you weren't in Germany in the '30s, Hitler would have been a mere kook to you, nothing to get worked up about.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:58PM

Are you truly that ignorant of how Romney has governed ALL HIS LIFE?

http://archive.redstate.com/st.....t_abortion

Wait---of course you are. Pearls before swine.

Nick| 4.13.12 @ 1:35PM

Teflon93,

I see you that enjoyed The Romney Book, eh?
I only wish I had come across it months ago!

When I saw that it came out back in November, I had a vague memory of it, but, for some reason, had forgotten about it. It's too bad that Mr. Santorum and Mr. Gingrich didn't have the money to put it to better use, huh?

But, guess who will have the money? President Downgrade, that's who.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 1:57PM

Of course he will--plus the left wing media will work for him for FREE, as Andrea Mitchell announced with the investigation into LDS' checkered history on race the very day Santorum withdrew.

I understand those conservatives who feel compelled to hold their noses and vote for this liberal. What I don't understand is those who deny the mountain of evidence---including his own damned videotaped words----that he IS a liberal.

What's conservatism about if it isn't acknowledging hard truths?

Eat the turd sandwich if you must---but don't go telling everybody it's bacon.

Nick| 4.13.12 @ 2:53PM

Teflon93,

Yes, once the Lame-Stream Media goes after his Mormonism, like it or not, it is going to hurt down-ticket races in the southern states. Especially, the senate races.

The GOP should be picking up 6-8 senate seats this year, maybe more. Thanks to O'Romney, they'll be lucky if they win the Senate, at this point. He'll also lose North Carolina, Virginia, and possibly Louisiana and Arkansas in the electoral contest.

It is going to be a bloodbath.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 3:41PM

There's just no electoral college path for Romney. He actually thinks if he picks Krispy Kreme Christie for Veep he'll pick up NJ and write off NC and VA. Problem is NC and NJ have the same number of EC votes and he needs both NC and VA to win. If he thinks he's going to put MI or PA in play he's just plain nuts---the rust belt lunch bucketers can't stand the guy.

W| 4.13.12 @ 5:15PM

Krispey Kreme Christie?? You are a class guy, Tef. You sound like Purp and your new friend, Clint.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:40PM

That's Mark Levin's line.

You're obviously not acquainted with The Great One. But few RINOs are.

W| 4.13.12 @ 11:50PM

I have read his books, Idiot, and don't make fun of someone's appearance. Only people like you who vote to elect Clinton and Obama enjoy personal attacks.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:46PM

You mean the personal attacks you engage in, W? You have neither presented, linked, nor responded to a single fact in this thread. Count 'em up---it's all weak sister insults, boring and repetitive.

Now put your fishnets on---Rove likes the seams lined up right....

W| 4.14.12 @ 2:55PM

You are obsessed with sexual arguments, what is your problem?
You have not presented one fact or argument that Obama would be a better president than Romney.
All you have done is engage in attacks on Romney. His hair ( your sexual obsession again), his religion, his missionary work in France, that he is a metrosexual ( your sexual obsession again) what does that mean since your are the sex expert here?, he makes too much money, etc.
Soon you will attack his wife?
You need help with your sexual obsession, see a shrink soon.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 3:33PM

I have completely refuted your RINO whore notion that Romney is a conservative and would govern as same.

Why, here's more:

And watch your spelling---you're obviously typing with one hand while trying to get your Gimp suit on for your appointment with the Log Cabin crowd.

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:21AM

Clint/Teflon
You still have not answered why you think Obama will be a better president than Romney. Tell us again how you helped elect Clinton instead of Dole and Carter instead of Ford.
Moron.

Nick| 4.13.12 @ 1:27PM

The RINO Chicken Little campaign message for 2012:
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
(Unless, you vote for O'Romney.)"

This is basically the same message the Dole RINOs had in 1996. How well did that end up?
It was the same message in '06, "Do you want to see Speaker Pelosi? Do you want to see Majority Leader Harry Reid?" That was all Sean Hannity said for 6 months!
Well, how'd that work out for the GOP?

Then they repeated the same putrid, failed strategy in '08 with McShame. In '10, they were shown the winning message, and spent the next two years trying to destroy it.

But now, in '12, I'm supposed to suspend reality, and believe that this year it will be different! Spare me.

What are we going to do in '16? Nominate Lindsey Grahmnesty?

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 1:58PM

For that very reason I voted for Alan Keyes in 1996, thus voting for an African-American (on both sides, no less) for President long before most liberals did.

Nick| 4.13.12 @ 2:44PM

Teflon93,

1996 was when I first learned who Alan Keyes was. He is way too conservative for the RINOs.
I wish he hadn't tried to run against O'Bama for the Illinois senate seat. He did kinda look like a carpetbagger, in my opinion. Not his finest hour.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 2:49PM

I think raging against the machine unhinged him. He was very good in 1996, but over the years it's clearly worn him down.

He ran in IL because the GOP Establishment begged him to.

Then stabbed him in the back.

As they invariably do.

Nick| 4.13.12 @ 3:10PM

"He ran in IL because the GOP Establishment begged him to.
Then stabbed him in the back.
As they invariably do."

Very true, I agree.

Purp| 4.13.12 @ 5:52PM

Nice diatribe, as if any of it is true. Feel better, Sunshine? No facts mind you, but hope you dumped your load now.

Dick Nome| 4.13.12 @ 12:19PM

Romney's problem right now is to motivate Republicans, especially the base. He has to have something going aside from not being Obama. He cannot run a lackluster, uninspiring , please-love-me-I'm a likeable moderate, campaign like McCain. Romney has to get something resembling enthusiasm flowing. Right now it isn't there and the lack of it is largely his own doing by trashing other Republicans. As crazy as the left is, at least they are uniformly crazy and mindlessly back Obozo and will vote for him no matter. Romney has to muster unity of purpose and rally the base. Without them he will not be successful.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 12:58PM

But he has great hair!

PolishKnight| 4.13.12 @ 1:10PM

One of the disturbing things I've noticed about Obama's popularity numbers is that they really don't sway that much compared to other presidents. Obama's supporters are high on themselves and Obama. They don't care if the sky is falling around them, they will think highly of themselves and him and probably show up at the polls.

On the other hand, McCain spent a lot of time trying steal votes from the Dems such as going to LaRaza and hanging out with Democrats just for the fun of it. This was simply politically stupid. To the Republican party's credit, our base is not just about showing up to vote for any jerk to feel good about ourselves but we care about issues. These issues will get us out and even steal votes from other side:

1) End the marriage penalty and even institute a marriage incentive. Take it from a 1.6X deduction (which is a 0.4 penalty for a married couple) and RAISE it to 2.4X (to match a single parent (usually a single mother) and a live in boyfriend getting 2.4X.

2) Drill baby, drill! Give out numbers of how much oil is REALLY out there (and not Obama's lie that there's only 5% of "world" reserves.) Show that in 10 years, we could be getting X percent more oil out of the ground and the projected economic impact of such an decrease of world prices.

3) H1B's and other hot topic immigration issues. If he focuses on jobs and not being a corporate shill and buddy to illegal immigrant amnesty Dems, he can solidify his base and even get voters out there. Since Obama clearly wants to just open up the borders (and Ron Paul was the same way), it's rather hard for him to do worse here.

Nick| 4.13.12 @ 1:15PM

Mr. Nome,

But, this is exactly what is going to happen. Romney is going to be McLame 2.0.

He will not attack President Downgrade. He won't have anyone even close to Sarah Palin to boost his poll numbers at the convention. He won't run a conservative campaign, "compassionate" or otherwise. He will probably loose more states than McShamnesty.

And the RINO campaign slogan will be:
"Well, O'Romney's not as bad a O'Bama!"

PolishKnight| 4.13.12 @ 1:53PM

I like Palin, but I think nominating her was a mistake. It came across as a cheap appeal to the woman's vote and the press crucified her partly because she let them.

You know, I wouldn't mind seeing him pick, get this, a WHITE MALE and one who is a strong conservative such as Ryan or Rohrabacher.

Nick| 4.13.12 @ 2:40PM

PolishKnight,

Go back and look at the polls before McLame picked Governor Palin, and after. Especially, amongst conservatives. I don't remember anyone saying that it "came across as a cheap appeal to the woman's vote."

Rohrabacher? A strong conservative? There is more to being a conservative than ACU ratings. (Which I'm beginning to trust less and less.) He has a mixed rating from CATO.

He's an Orange County, California Republican. He's also been in the House for over 20 years. Time for him to go.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 2:48PM

My wife and I only voted for McCain because of Sarah Palin being on the ticket. It was the only hope we had of something remotely conservative coming out of a McCain administration.

W| 4.13.12 @ 3:01PM

Nick,
I don't like Lindsey Graham, but did you know he has a more conservative voting record than Santorum? Rick's conservative reputation is based mostly on his opposition to gay marriage and abortion. He record on fiscal and economics is more moderate. That is one problem with voting records.

Dole was not a moderate. Jerry Ford picked Dole in 76 as the conservative VP. Dole ran in 88 against bush as a conservative. His overall voting record was more conservative than moderate. But he was not a good candidate.

The problem in 96 was that Dole and Kemp were both lousy campaigners. Neither would attack Clinton. And then we had Perot stealing Republican votes.
McCain had the same record on abortion and gay marriage as Santorum. But he was a lousy campaigner and did not attack Obama. He got mad at supporters that referred to Obama as Barack Hussein Obama. I agree Palin helped his campaign. But McCain would have won if there had not been the stock market crash in Setp 2008.

Nick| 4.13.12 @ 3:24PM

W,

There is more to being a conservative than ACU ratings. Which I started to distrust after the David Keene debacle.

The reason Mr. Santorum's record may seem more moderate, on paper, is because he was in the Senate leadership and couldn't really vote against the party leader's signature legislation. It was a mistake, and helped lead to his loss, in '06.

But, it is because of his Pro-Life and anti-counterfeit marriage stances that I trust he would govern as a conservative. Anyone who thinks it's okay to deprive an unborn baby of his right to life is not going to think twice about taking my property. Those who defend the right to life as passionately as Mr. Santorum won't be thinking of new ways to steal my money.

I disagree with you about Dole. Look at how he ran the Senate as Majority Leader. Constantly undermining Newt's progress. And, against Ford, it's hard not to look like a conservative. Dole did not run as a conservative in 1996. Perot only got something like 4-5% of the vote that year, not his previous 19%.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 3:38PM

Santorum had a lifetime ACU of 88.1.

Specter's was half that. Any doubt W was out there supporting Specter over Toomey right before Specter made it official and added the (-D)?

W| 4.13.12 @ 5:17PM

Wrong again, moron Tef. I supported Specter only after Rick Santorum endorsed him.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:41PM

Which is what I said:

"Any doubt W was out there supporting Specter over Toomey right before Specter made it official and added the (-D)?"

W| 4.13.12 @ 11:56PM

Tef,
It is evident that your are stupid since you voted to elect Clinton and will vote to elect Obama, but I did support Specter after Santorum endorsed him. Is that too difficult for your unhinged brain to comprehend. Why did you support Santorum if he endorsed Specter?

Specter was not a conservative, but neither are you. But Specter did not vote for Alan Keyes to help elect Clinton like you did.

Specter's cross exam of Anita Hill showed her to be a liar, and he was instrumental in confirming Justice Thomas. And Specter, according to Santorum and Bush, was necessary to confirm Alito as Justice and Roberts as Chief Justice.

But reality does not matter to an idiot who voted to elect Clinton and will vote to elect Obama.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:49PM

In addition to being a hypocrite, W, you are a liar. I'd be happy to push your face in for you should you care to name time and place.

I voted for Keyes in 1996 because Bob Dole---whom Newt Gingrich correctly called "the tax collector for the welfare state" for his disgraceful role in the deal that led to Reagan raising taxes in exchange for 3 times as many spending cuts (said cuts never coming)---wasn't, isn't, and never has been a conservative.

Unlike you, you mindless RINO whore, I don't vote for the magic (-R), but for CONSERVATIVES.

And unlike you, I supported fully half of this GOP field.

Now go get your Gimp suit on---John Sununu's waiting.

W| 4.14.12 @ 3:01PM

Tough words from a sexually obsessed Obama troll when you know it is meaningles to make threats on an anonymous site. What's the matter, getting frustrated, you started it and now you cannot take it, so buzz off, idiot.
So Dole forced Reagan to raise taxes? Are you that stupid? If Reagan did not want to raise taxes he would not have raised taxes. He as president thought it was a good idea, and he was wrong, as was Bush. You are desperate to justify your vote to elect Clinton as you are desperate to justify your vote to elect Obama.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 3:30PM

Here's some info on Bob Dole, Wonder RINO:

http://www.realchange.org/bdole.htm

Not that you'll read it, given your chickenshittedness.

But name the time and place, coward, and I'll be happy to do some amateur dental work.

After which you'll finally understand the difference between not voting for a candidate and voting for his opponent, a mathematical distinction which eludes you no doubt on account of your family tree being diamond-shaped.

W| 4.14.12 @ 3:42PM

Ok, Clint/Teflon,
Bob's Diner, Main Street, Carnegie Pa. Take the parkway to the Carnegie exit, get on West Main st. You cannot miss it. See you Monday, April 15, at 12:00Am. Wear you Obama shirt so I can recognize you.

Have a pleasant weekend, Clint/Teflon.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 4:50PM

Nice try, chickenshit. Unfortunately I can't make time run backwards to cover that distance.

You can add cowardice to your list of vices.

Singing Arlen Specter's praises confirms what a RINO douchebag you are.

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:27AM

Clint/Tefton
Unfortunately you can't make it? Why, roboposting under the names of Clint, Sphincter, Tom, Tim, and Teflon, and watching YouTube?

Sissy chickened out, like you did when ConChef, Dr.Right, and Occam took up you sissy challenge.
What is the matter sissy?
Ok, Wednesday, April 18, or Friday April 20, same time and place. You did say name the time and place, right moron? Wear your Obama shirt, Carter hat ,and Clinton buttons so I recognize you.

Tell us again how you voted to elect Carter, Clinton, and now will vote to elect Obama.
Fool.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 8:49PM

There is no Mon Apr 15th this year you pussy.

I gave you your new date, time and address below.

Show up.

Clint| 4.15.12 @ 10:38AM

Don't Drag Me Into Your Purse Swingin' Hair Pullin' Cat Fight, Little GirlieMan Twerp, W.

If You Wanna Threaten Me With Physical Violence & Make Me Legally Kick Your Ass, I'll Be At Main Street & Bridge Street In Phoenixville, By Valley Forge At 4;00 PM, At The Valley Forge Tea Party Rally.

Put Up Or Shut Up, Little Puke Mouth,W.

Put Up Or Shut Your Pie Hole, Coward,W.

W| 4.15.12 @ 12:32PM

ClinTef,
I knew it was you, sissy.
Now, buzz off, clown.

Occam's Tool| 4.16.12 @ 2:48AM

Clint: you never show up. Con gave you his home address and you never showed up. To take on a guy with a colostomy bag. Please.

W| 4.13.12 @ 5:25PM

Nick,
Dole and Kemp ran a lousy campaign and you are correct that they did not run as conservatives. But Dole and Kemp's voting records were as conservative, if not more so, than Newt and Santorum.
McCain's record on abortion is as strong as Santorum yet nobody on this site believes that McCain would govern as a conservative because he is pro life, although he would have been 1000% better than Obama.
Santorum's fiscal record is moderate because that is how he voted. You don't really mean he had to vote that way if he did not really believe it because he was in the leadership.
I agree with you about the reliability of the ratings.
The ratings are like all statistics, you have to look at the specific legislation.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:53PM

If I keep beating you up like this the ref's gonna call it:

Santorum lifetime ACU: 88.1
Bob Dole: 82
Newt Gingrich: 90
Jack Kemp 90.1

So not quite.

W| 4.14.12 @ 12:00AM

So why did you vote agains for Keyes instead of Dole Kemp if Kemp had the highest score?
Dole had 6 point difference probably because of abortion. You think that is a substantial difference between 82 and 88 that caused you to vote to elect Clinton?
You are truly an idiot.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:53PM

First off, let's note that once again, W had no facts, and once again, I wiped the floor with his sorry ass.

Second, let's note W doesn't take even a moment to acknowledge he was wrong and that Santorum was far more conservative than Dole.

Third, absent facts, W posits Dole's difference was down to abortion. Does he bother to look it up and see that in actuality Dole ventured time and again off the conservative reservation on taxation and spending? Nope.

This is because W is a RINO whore who pulls the lever for the magic (-R) without regard to whether or not that candidate is a liberal---which is about 1/3 of the time, a moderate (about 3/5 of the time), or a conservative.

Now go make Karl Rove some money.

W| 4.14.12 @ 3:46PM

You have just proven your are Clint. Why the phony name of Teflon. Only Clint responds with the sexual references/langauage.
We could have saved a lot of time if you just used your real name, skipped the arguments and all your you tube crap.
Clint, did I tell you I am a big supporter of Israel and Bibi? How does that make you feel Tef/clint?

Clint| 4.15.12 @ 8:41AM

That's A Lie.

But Then You Already Knew That, Liar W.

And You Also Wrote:

" W| 4.13.12 @ 10:36PM

Clint is smarter than you Tef. At least he did not vote to elect Clinton, and if he did he is smart enough to keep it quiet.
You are an idiot."

Call Bibi & Mittens.

Nick| 4.13.12 @ 11:57PM

W.,

Voting records are what the ACU ratings are based upon. Politicians like Dole and McLame have to vote Pro-Life because of the states that they inhabit. This is no reflection on how Pro-Life they really are, if at all. Remember how McShame handled the question about what he would do if his daughter showed up pregnant, in 2000? He botched it, big time.

Even President G.W. Bush wasn't a great Pro-Life president. He did reinstate the Mexico City policy, but, what else did he do? He has exceptions for rape and incest, proving he doesn't understand the issue. Did he save Terry Schindler Schiavo?

"You don't really mean he had to vote that way if he did not really believe it because he was in the leadership."

Yes, I do. There is tremendous pressure to vote with the president. Especially, on his signature pieces of legislation. Remember Tom Delay holding the MediScare Part D vote open for three hours, in order to twist arms to the breaking point?

I guarantee that a President Santorum would be much more fiscally conservative than a President McLame or President O'Romney. Because Rick understands the Constitution and its limits on power.

W| 4.14.12 @ 12:07AM

Nick,
I have voted for Santorum and worked for him but you are making excuses. He did not have to vote if he disagreed with the bills. You excuse Santorum for voting out of political interests with Bush but your are quick to criticize McCain and Dole for voting as "politicians."
Nick, I respect you, I have no respect for Teflon, but McCain is a patriotic war hero and you should not call him names such as McLame. You are better thant that.
The only real power of the president regarding abortion is to appoint Supreme Court justices who may overrule Roe/Casey. It will take a constitutional amendment to outlaw abortion.

Nick| 4.14.12 @ 12:55AM

W,

I am not making excuses for Mr. Santorum. I'm as critical of those votes as anyone else. He was not upholding his conservative principles with those votes. I just understand why he made them. I don't claim that he is the most conservative candidate ever.

And, I was furious with his support of S-P-E-C-T-E-R, and have stated repeatedly that this was the reason he lost in '06. I have forgiven him for that error, but, it took a while. Again, he was under pressure from team Bush, in '04. Didn't you support Bush? Are you claiming that O'Romney wouldn't have made the same votes if he were in Senator Santorum's position?

I've been calling McShame McLame, here, in the comboxes for three and a half years, now. I'm not going to stop now. I have also praised his war service and defended him against those who have tried to bad-mouth his POW years. These are two separate issues. Just because someone served honorably in the military doesn't mean they are above criticism and sarcasm/ridicule.

I respect you, too, W, as I'm sure you know. But, to try and hide the flaws of a candidate you support by trying to make his opponents out to be something they are not, violates President Reagan's 11th commandment. O'Romney's team has lied about Mssrs. Santorum and Gingrich, repeatedly, during this campaign. He won't be so harsh with O'Bama, just like McShamnesty. That is why he is McLame 2.0.

Finally, it is because of the abortion/Supreme Court that I will hold my nose in November. But, this is all beside the point, because O'Romney will not win. Not unless there are riots this summer, as Anthony hopes for, or, the DOW plummets to 7,000 and there is $5.00 a gallon gas.

Or, someone exorcises O'Romney of his liberal demons, and he runs as constitutional conservative. But, that won't happen. And, I won't delude myself into thinking that it will. Sorry.

W| 4.14.12 @ 12:00PM

Nick,
Santorum's support of Specter is not the reason he lost by 18 points. Bob Casey Jr. ran as a pro life, pro gun traditional Democrat. It was credible because his father, Bob Casey, was a true pro life old fashioned Democrat. As governor Pa passed an abortion law that was struck by the Supreme Court. Gov Casey then had a heart transpant to save his life. He was very popular and his son won because of his father. Of course, Junior is an empty suit nothing like his father.
Santorum was hurt by the Iraq War, Bush spending, and news that he had a local school district in Pgh pay $100,000 to a charter school in Virginia to home school his children. It was legal but not a good move.
Santorum always got the pro life Dems in his prior wins. Against Casey, Santorum did not because it was not much of an issue.
In hindsight, endorsing Specter is questionable, but Specter had always campaigned for Santorum, which helped Santorum in the Philadephia region which was Specter's strong area. And Bush endorsed Specter and asked or told Santorum to endorse Specter. At the time it looked like the right decision.
Of course I voted for Ford, Reagan, Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain, and will vote for Romney (or any other Republican). Only and Idiot/Moron would waste a vote for Perot or Keyes or Anderson or any third party candidate that only helps the Democrat win.
As for calling McCain, that is your decision, but I still say you are better than that, and only because of his service to our country similar to Dole and Bush 41 and Ike. With any other candidate I have no objection to any names.
As for Romney we will see, but you know he will be better than Obama. That is not even an issue.

W| 4.14.12 @ 1:05PM

Nick
Forgot that 06 was a governor race in Pa. Ed Rendell, a popular governor, won big, also a landslide, over Lynn Swann, the former Steeler wide receiver. Swann was not match for Rendell and ran a poor campaign. Seems there was a lot of straight party voting that helped Casey. Dems have a one million voter reigstration edge in Pa so any Republican has to get Dem votes. Santorum got enough in the past with his pro life record, but against Casey he did not. Everything went against Santorum.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 1:57PM

Mitt Romney is a liberal who ran against Reagan, ran against Bush, ran against Newt, and even ran against McCain, and yet he is above reproach, while Santorum is unacceptable because he did Bush and the GOP three critical favors at times they needed him to: one, he supported Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey, two, he supported Medicare Part D for Dubya, three, he stayed in the 2006 race and took the beating Bush's RINOism earned the GOP Congress. Unlike Mitt Romney, who cut and ran, by the way.

Let's hear Romney on Reagan and Bush Pere:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pVqZzHm3Z4

There are tons of these. W, being a cowardly transgendered chickenshit, won't watch any, lest it disturb his sangfroid in pulling the idiot lever.

W| 4.14.12 @ 3:07PM

Hey Moron,
If you want to elect Obama, then present your arguments and facts to support that Obama will be a better president for our country than Romney. That is the issue, Idiot. Try to focus on the issue of who should be the president, Obama or Romney. Get your mind out of the sexual gutter and focus on Obama or Romney?
As I told you before I don't care who you vote for because your opinion is worthless given that you voted to elect Clinton.

You do need help with your sexual obsessions.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 3:26PM

Do I need to slap that dildo out of your mouth?

NEITHER of these liberals should be president.

And if you were an actual conservative instead of a RINO manwhore, you'd know that.

W| 4.14.12 @ 3:47PM

Clint, again with the sex talk, See a shrink.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 4:41PM

I have to use terms you understand, you RINO whore.

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:28AM

See you on the 18 or 20, sissy.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 8:48PM

There is no Mon Apr 15th this year, you pussy.

I gave you your new date, time, and address below.

Show up.

W| 4.15.12 @ 11:16PM

Clinten
Sissy, on Saturday I told you Monday, and put 15 instead of 16, were you confused about the year? Then I told you Wed, April 18 or Frid April 20. So no you chicken out because your were confused when I told you Monday?
Give it up, moron. You are a sissy.

Teflon93| 4.16.12 @ 5:47PM

Once again, W(hore) is a liar and a coward. First off, this post was to me, not Clint (who btw gave you a time and place right up the road for you that you somehow couldn't make, chickenshit). Second, here's the way you tried to weasel even out of that:

"W| 4.14.12 @ 2:42PM

Ok, Clint/Teflon,
Bob's Diner, Main Street, Carnegie Pa. Take the parkway to the Carnegie exit, get on West Main st. You cannot miss it. See you Monday, April 15, at 12:00Am. Wear you Obama shirt so I can recognize you.

Have a pleasant weekend, Clint/Teflon."

Since there is no Apr 15th on a Mon this year, you stupid little pansy, it had to refer to a prior or a future year. Given how much of a little girl you are, I assumed prior.

I've given you a near future date and location---be there.

Clint's given you one date and location you've already wimped out on, but I figure it's worth a try because I am absolutely aching to work you like a speedbag.

W| 4.16.12 @ 6:17PM

Clintef,
We locals use Main st, You are correct it is Mansfied at that point. I gave you the three dates and the location, now that you are clear, see you on Wed or Frid? You are looking for a way out, with your excuses about Monday the 15 or Monday the 16, and coming up with locations in Philly and NC after you asked me for the location,date, and time.
See you on Wed or Frid this week, sissy.

W| 4.16.12 @ 6:20PM

Clintef,
Are you seriously trying to say your were confused when on Saturday, I told you Monday? Be a man, and just say you are not showing up instead of your pathetic excuses about the date and trying to change the location after you asked me to name the location.
See you this week or shut up and buzz off.

W| 4.16.12 @ 6:41PM

Clintef
These are your words:

"But name the time and place, coward, and I'll be happy to do some amateur dental work"

Now, either show up Wed or Frid or stop acting like a little girl and be quiet. You are wasting my time with empty threats. You show up I may buy you a burger.

David| 4.13.12 @ 1:27PM

Teflon93, we all get your points. Most of us agree with most of what you say.

Now get a life and realize that Bam Bam is the enemy who will not be able to be controlled in his last 4 years in office.

Romney the liberal will be constrained from most shenanigans by a repub Congress and conservative voices in the private sector.

Hopefully, the repubs have learned their lesson and when they are in control again will not allow a "compassionate conservative" to lead them astray again.

We are not the same people we were 12 years ago when Bush pushed No Child Left Behind with Ted Kennedy. Our attitudes had changed by the time Bush nominated Harriet Meirs to the Sup Ct. We finally pushed back and stopped RINOs like Bush from cramming their liberal crap down our throats.

I believe that same attitude will force Romney to govern as a conservative - whether he likes it or not.

Teflon, if for no other reason, we must not let the Boy make hundreds of lifetime appointments to the federal courts. There is no doubt Romney's picks will be better. If not, we now know that we and the Congress have the power to force him to do what we want.

No more f_cking Kagans and wise latinas.

So Teflon and others like you, don't sit out the election and act like the morons you appear to be.

Nick| 4.13.12 @ 1:45PM

David,

Why won't you see the 800 lbs. gorilla in the room? O'Romney won't win. He is McLame 2.0. He won't be in the position to be "constrained" by a GOP Congress.

"We finally pushed back and stopped RINOs like Bush from cramming their liberal crap down our throats."

We did? Do you remember who the nominee was in '08?

"There is no doubt Romney's picks will be better."

Umm, there is HUGE doubt.
But, you just keep calling me a "moron." That's the sure-fire way to get me to support O'Romney!
(I'm not sitting out the election, by the way. There will be plenty of conservatives who will, however.)

John - TMF| 4.13.12 @ 1:48PM

"No more f_cking Kagans and wise latinas."

Well brace yourself because that's all Romney nominates...

His record is his record, not someone else's.

-TMF

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 2:03PM

Morons are people like you who expect conservative governance from liberals----especially once they get in office and don't need conservative votes any longer.

Especially liberals who've appointed liberal judge after liberal judge when they've had the opportunity to do so:

http://www.daveforsenate.com/

Now give me one example of where a GOP congress has held a GOP president in check. You'll need to do better than Harriet Miers or Dubai since that was pure conservative base/blogger activity that Congress had nothing to do with----and since Bush pushed thru Medicare Part D, NCLB, steel tariffs, and every other damned leftwing compassionate conservative nonsense he could dream up in the meantime.

How are Tammy Faye Boehner and Mitchy McClownel going to "rein in" Romney when they won't even rein in Obama?

Nick| 4.13.12 @ 2:23PM

Tammy Faye Boehner!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
That's classic, Teflon93.

David| 4.13.12 @ 1:34PM

Mr. Tucker, once again I disagree with you. This is not going to be easy for Romney. Our best chance to beat Bam Bam was with Santorum.

The Boy has an excellent chance of getting another term. The fact that 47% pay no federal income taxes attests to his good chances.

Then add in the surprise of all surprises: He will make Hillary his running mate. Anyone who believes she is disappearing from politics after this first term, as she claims, is delusional.

It will be heralded as the most brilliant political move in history. And it will be because there is no way Bam Bam should be re-elected based on his record. But there are too many stupid people who will simply ignore his record if Hillary is on the ticket with him.

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 1:55PM

Uh Oh !

" But the story of Romney's supposed Olympic triumph isn't as simple as he wants you to believe. Rather, his success as president of the 2002 winter games was due to the unprecedented amount of federal money he procured to organize the most expensive Olympics in American history. And coming from a candidate who's spent his campaign railing against federal spending and earmarks, it's another breathtaking example of Romney's hypocrisy.

The Salt Lake games got more taxpayer dollars than all of the previous U.S.-hosted Olympics combined: a whopping $1.3 billion. For comparison, the 1984 games in L.A. received $75 million and the 1996 games in Atlanta received $609 million.
Romney's campaign is already pushing back by saying that the extra money was necessary for security. But our money went to much more than security, including $30 million for parking lots, $2 million for sewer systems, and $33,000 for an Olympic horse adoption program."

RCV| 4.13.12 @ 3:51PM

Your tea party heads to the toilet, Clint.

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 4:04PM

Obama TrollBoy, RCV Has His Head In Obama's Toilet.

Obama TrollBoy, RCV Is Scared Of The Tea Party.

Mike Hawk| 4.13.12 @ 4:57PM

RCV, you have no idea what's going on with the Tea Party. It isn't a big centrally controlled monolith you libs see. It's citzens in action and we will blow your candidates away again. Clint claims to be with VF TP. Well, whatever it is to you that group is making a big impact. If Clint is in with it that's your tough luck as they aren't going away. Clint blusters like a juvenile, but the Tea Party Group doesn't.

RCV| 4.13.12 @ 5:52PM

Mike, that's why I said YOUR tea party to Clint. He's a tea party of one.

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 11:39PM

Tell Your Phoney Crap To Our Highly Decorated Vietnam Combat Veteran & Pennsylvania Republican Senate Candidate Dave Christian, Who Spoke At Our Valley Forge Tea Party Meeting Tonight, ObamaBoy Troll RCV & His Boyfriend, Little Micky Hawklette.

Reprobate Charlatan Vomitus| 4.14.12 @ 6:44PM

I don't bother with why I didn't mention that I have also said I abhor the sanctimonious tea party, which is an ideology completely lacking intelligence, completely lacking Christian love, and completely lacking Christian compassion, whose every single policy is damaging this nation and it's very future, and is completely lacking in credibility, and knowing all this to be true not only because I am a lifelong scholar of the Constitution, I am also a lifelong scholar of the Bible and a devout churchgoing Christian, which is why I belong to the party that at least cares about human beings AFTER they're born, and have supported Obama from the beginning, not to even bother mentioning how astute I am on scientific matters such as peer-reviewed anthropogenic global warming matters.

RCV| 4.16.12 @ 1:09PM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....

David| 4.13.12 @ 2:03PM

Again folks, just stay home. Your guys didn't win so take your marbles and go home.

Mitt was not my first, second, or third pick, but he is the nominee.

Answer this: Are we not more involved now with the Tea Party and all in getting our elected officials to do what WE want rather than what they are inclined to do?

Romney is the nominee because we had 5 people dividing the conservative vote early on, and had 3 (I am including Ron Paul) for the remainder of the primary. Enough conservatives did not get out and vote for the conservative candidates. Texas's primary was put off until May when that could have tremendously helped Santorum.

The COURTS, the COURTS, the COURTS.

If you didn't like TARP, Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind, etc., how much more would you dislike Obamacare because it would be ruled constitutional if Harriet Meirs and/or Alberto Gonzales were on the high court.

Do you really want Bam Bam to make hundreds of lifetime appointments to the Courts? Romney made his appointments in MA (I guess he could have refused to nominate anyone and left the courts of justice empty) and had to get his nominees through a very liberal legislature.

The repubs in the Senate will be able to stop Romney's nominees if they are not originalists/strict contstructionists. We have changed and will insist that our senators hold Romney's feet to the fire.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 2:04PM

We'll say it again: Romney ONLY NOMINATES LIBERALS!

Get it?

John - TMF| 4.13.12 @ 2:47PM

If he won't read this, he can read it from this nice lady. She's got it all organized, referenced, and documented.

Even has the newspaper articles and references that all seem to be too much for all of these "too smart by half" supposed conservatives to read.

Romney is a Liberal. He makes Liberal policy and judicial appointments.

I guess that critter that waddles, flaps, quacks, and swims is a Snipe... Because Rombots are sure on a Snipe hunt for their mythical conservative Mittster..

Fear is an amazing thing, panic has a power all of its own. The results of decisions taken out of fear and panic are rarely good.

When I took the Red Cross Senior Life Saver back in the day (wow was it a long time ago now.) the first thing that they warned you about is that the person you are trying to save stands a very good chance of drowning you, out of sheer panic.

The level of panic, as it dawns on more people that Romney is a doctrinaire Liberal, will be a dangerous thing.

I will spend a few minutes at Mass on Sunday, praying for this nation. Mitt Romney is not Don Quixote, he's the Knight of Mirrors.

r/TMF

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 3:36PM

Yes, John---an excellent link and very well-attributed. Thank you!

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 2:07PM

Uh Oh !

" When a private equity firm buys a company in a traditional leveraged buyout, it typically uses bank loans to finance much of the purchase price. Since the company being acquired takes out the bank loans, it's the one on the hook for future interest payments -- not the private equity owner. The extra twist comes when, often years later, private equity owners instruct the company to take out even more bank loans. Those proceeds are then funneled to private equity investors in the form of a "dividend," rather than being used for corporate purposes like buying new equipment or hiring new employees.

In most cases, companies can handle the extra debt load. But sometimes the interest payments become unbearable and the company folds, as in the case of Bain's investment in medical diagnostics specialist Dade International. Not only did private equity not increase the company's value, but its actions actually helped destroy value.

Even when the company survives, it's difficult to argue that the added debt has contributed to anything other than private equity's bank balance. And calling it a "dividend" is just plain deceitful, since dividends are supposed to come from legitimate earnings."

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 2:14PM

Uh Oh !

" Romney Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge.

The Romney refusal raises the concern a President Romney would be appointing Supreme Court nominees in the mold of George H.W. Bush appointee David Souter -- the latter who famously was presented as a conservative and became a dependable liberal Court vote the moment he was seated. "

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 2:20PM

How dare you quote Romney's record, Clint? You know we're supposed to spout dreamy platitudes about how he'll govern without recourse to it.

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 2:31PM

Expect Romney To Announce That He Will Run Against "That GOP Primary Guy, Romney " In The General Election.

Nick| 4.13.12 @ 3:02PM

Teflon93,

They are the same people who say we must support the Spector's, Snowe's, Lugar's, and Murkowski's of the world.

They are the same people who would support Hillary Clinton if she put an "-R" behind her name. In fact, they would all support O'Bama if he changed parties! (Even if he didn't change his policies.)
All they care about is party affiliation.

Nick| 4.13.12 @ 3:03PM

Oops! I meant to reply to your comment @1:21PM.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 3:36PM

Yes indeed, which is why that Republican in Name Only moniker applies.

Specter had a lifetime American Conservative Union rating of 44.1. That means voting for conservatism less than half the time. The Establishment twisted Santorum's arm to support him over Toomey (lifetime ACU 96.0), claiming that it was far better to have a RINO than a Dem, whereupon Specter became a Democrat and helped pass Obamacare. Then they claimed Santorum wasn't conservative enough for supporting Specter!

They are backstabbers and snakes.

So why are we rallying to their cause?

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 2:21PM

One thing which is very clear from this election cycle: it's separated those of us who are conservatives first from those who will vote for anybody with the magic (-R) after their surname.

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 2:35PM

The Republican Party, Disrespects & Plays Conservatives As Their "Useful Dupes", As They Play Their "Democrat Lite/ Lesser Evil/Arlen Specter/John McCain" Games Again.

Tom| 4.13.12 @ 9:57PM

If the Democrats put George Washington, and the Republicans had a Hitler-Stalin ticket, some of these Romneyzoids would STILL vote Republican!

David| 4.13.12 @ 2:23PM

Teflon, I will say it again. The senators, who are much more responsive to we the people, because we the people are much more involved, will not accept anything but originalists/strict constructionist nominees. Why? Because we the people, who are paying attention now - finally - will insist on it.

What don't you understand about that?

So don't vote for Romney and will just take our chances with Bam Bam's picks - huh?

I am sorry, but that IS moronic.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 2:44PM

How did Kagan and Sotamajor get on the Court if the Senators---so receptive to the will of the people---didn't let them?

You really are ignorant.

#1, the Senate only approves/opposes the candidates they get sent by the WH. Romney won't send them conservatives---he never has.

#2, Republican senators have a history of rolling over for Democrats because they claim the president should get his pick as long as they are minimally qualified. They won't filibuster judges; they won't refuse them a confirmation vote. Democrats will do both.

#3, John Sununu--who gave us David Souter---is one of Romney's key advisors.

But other than that, you really are a genius.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 2:47PM

And since David's incapable of finding facts in support of such arguments as he can muster through that Schlitz haze, here is Romney's record on judges, stolen from another true conservative:

http://predicthistunpredictpas.....-slvt.html

Resist We Much! | 4.13.12 @ 2:34PM

Baghdad Jay: "Hilary, You Ignorant Slut. Would You Please Shut Up?"

Don't Cry For Us, America!

http://predicthistunpredictpas.....erica.html

Thomas J. Madden Jr.| 4.13.12 @ 2:38PM

I am a conservative, catholic, Palin-loving voter who feels that the Republican party is not conservative enough. That said, your article has convinced me to support Mitt Romney. The friendly next-door neighbor analogy sealed the deal. Congratulations on a great, convincing article.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 2:45PM

I have to admit---the next-door neighbor analogy almost convinced me to forget all about this:

Clint| 4.13.12 @ 2:43PM

Romney Campaign Theme:
"All Good Americans Must Vote For A Guy Named After A Baseball Glove."

Jeff R| 4.13.12 @ 2:57PM

"All Romney has to do is ignore it. Don't get into spitting fights and mud-slinging contests with the President. Be above it all. Let Obama stew in his own anger. Romney should be the happy warrior, delighted to be out mixing among the people, learning about their problems, becoming more and more comfortable with the backslapping and glad-handing. "

Ignoring the negatives simply doesn't work for a candidate, as much as Mr. Tucker and others wish it to be the case.

Romney most certainly needs to project a positive vision for the future while providing meaningful contrasts between Obama and himself. Most of all, he needs to treat the election as a referendum on Mr. Obama... an up or down vote on Mr. Obama's record, results, and, yes, on the president himself.

albert constantine jr.| 4.13.12 @ 3:32PM

“Call me crazy”

Mr. Tucker’s article begins thus. Actually, I usually call him elitist, deluded, or wrong. As I read this article, I pray that he will turn out to be proven correct, but I am not as of yet confident of the outcome. I do recall 1980, though, and I thought in that era that I was going to be one of the few who cast a vote for RWR that November. I can’t recall ever being happier that I was proven wrong, and the Republicans got the Senate, as well.

RWR was assailed constantly throughout his Presidency, most frequently from the Left, but on occasion from the right. Conservatives and moderates of many stripes constantly tried to pull him in different directions, and at times he strayed from what I (or just about any conservative metric) might have considered to be “the right thing”. Though early in her career Sandra Day O’Connor and Justice Rehnquist were known as the “Arizona Twins” as far as law students were taught, eventually Justice O’Connor went in a more moderate direction. We got Rehnquist as a Chief Justice, and Antonin Scalia, but we lost Bork, Goldberg crashed and burned, and we wound up with Anthony Kennedy (see J. O’Connor).

Iran-Contra was a distraction in the latter part of the second term, and the Dems got the Senate back in 1986, bringing us the embarrassment of Judiciary Chairman Biden. I got my Social Security full retirement age raised, many taxes were increased and deductions slashed, there was a stock market correction in 1987, and so forth.

I still remember these as the Golden Days from a political standpoint, as do many others. Nostalgia for the Reagan era is so great that the Democrats are trying to evoke and co-opt it, and claim that RWR would be too moderate for today’s GOP.

Nearly everybody who posts here knows that is false, but unfortunately, we are an engaged but small minority in what is likely a fractured and diffuse conservative plurality. RWR is sometimes referred to as Ronaldus Magnus because he remained true to his conservative principles, even when he had to act pragmatically. Following his primary battle in 1976, he did not turn his back on Gerald Ford and the moderates, and following the November defeat, he continued to build his 1980 campaign. He battled his opponents in the primary with vigor, wit and optimism, and then united most of the party (John Anderson’s 1-3% notwithstanding) for a victory for Republicans, conservatives and America alike. As I point out above, though, even that critical victory brought many low points along with the high points that we cherish and remember more vividly, because American pride was revived.

To the extent that RWR could accurately ever be called “moderate”, it was his ability to be gracious in defeat (1976) while he remained determined to come back victoriously, and to try to work with those who might oppose him. He (and all of us) won some and lost some, and those enemies who tried to stab him in the back are not recalled with the fondness of the Gipper.

RWR made a number of mistakes as Governor, but he learned from many of them. He developed rules along with his principles, and he lived his 11th Commandment of not speaking ill of his fellow Republicans, even when they trashed him.

I pray Americans, or at least a majority of lawful voters will overcome their selfish interests and vote in their self- interest (as well as the interest of America and the world) this November, and vote out Barack Obama this November. As it appears that the choice most likely to see this accomplished will be Mitt Romney, I see that as the choice with which I will have to do my part with my vote. While it is not my first choice, I think it is the best choice left. I did get my first choice in 1980 and that was far from perfect; I hope that this choice, if successful, will turn I better than I thought.

I understand the concerns and principles of many of Mitt Romney’s critics from the right. For those who can’t yet envision themselves casting a Romney vote, I pray that you remain open to reconsidering, or at least not dissuade others or cast one for O. For those who have made the decision that despite whom you favored earlier, you will be supporting the primary victor, thank you for honoring and following the legacy of Ronald Wilson Reagan.

W| 4.13.12 @ 5:29PM

Great comment, Albert.

( . . . after the beep . . . )| 4.15.12 @ 11:27AM

Yeah, it's me. You guys quit fooling around yet long enough to ID this opaque waxy coating hiding the liberal this guy sounds more and more like? Teflon my ass. I got both Diel and Chapman on my case something fierce. I got a theory about the 93, if you turn the 9 upside down and repeat it three times you have three 6s if you know what I mean. The guy doesn't seem stupid enough to be one of the usual suspects, he's possibly smart enough to use paper instead of fingers when he wipes. Get Angel to root around that crowd and see what he can find, the old takes one to know one tactic. This phoney can't provide one reason for Obama over Romney, you know? The syndicate - media mutters or whatever they call themselves - can't have anyone who can fool us can they? Get on it before Alex the ass and Doug the douche start micromanaging and handcuff me on this. I mean it guys or I'll let you both rot next time you're behind bars, which we all know will probably happen within the week.

W| 4.15.12 @ 1:43PM

Albert,
You are very creative. You should write a mystery novel using dialogue, like George V Higgins did in the "Friends of Eddy Coyle." Movie was great with Robert Mitchum, based on the book. You have the ear for the street lingo.
Dr Right says Clint is Teflon, Doc is a sharp guy, don't always agree but he is smart and knows Clint's dialogue. I agree with Doc, Clint is Teflon or using Teflon's handle.
Check out Friends of Eddy Coyle.

George True| 4.13.12 @ 3:36PM

I am amazed at some of the comments from people who claim to be conservatives who say they will not vote for Romney, no way no how.

Like it or not, Romney is the nominee. Either he or Obama will be POTUS as of Jan 20th, 2013. In 2008, many conservatives who stayed home simply did not give due consideration to the fact that having a hardcore leftist POTUS appointing Supreme Court justices would be a disaster for our Republic. As a result, we now have two new appointees, Sotomayer and Kagan, who are both intellectual dimwits and also hardcore leftist ideologues.

It is a virtual certainty that at least one or two, possibly even three Supreme Court justices will retire between now and Jan 20th, 2017. If it is Obama appointing their replacements, then the country is lost. Our Constitutional Republic will have been overthrown, and our founders' 236 year experiment in self-governance will be over. THAT is what is riding on this year's election.

Mitt Romney, with all of his shortcomings, is the only thing standing in the way of losing our Republic. Keep that in mind when deciding whether or not to stay home this November.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 3:47PM

Mitt Romney doesn't nominate conservative judges:

Will you admit that THAT is a problem with your argument, George?

How about the fact that John Sununu--the guy who "vouched" for David Souter's "conservatism"---is a key Romney advisor?

I am a conservative first and foremost. I cannot and will not vote for a liberal. Romney is a liberal.

Can you please explain to me why, despite all the evidence to the contrary in Romney's 28 year political career, that you believe him to be a conservative? How many 60 year old men do you know who've fundamentally changed their political ideology while keeping the same advisors?

Once again, here's Romney in his own words:

Watch it and tell me you think this guy is a conservative.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 3:51PM

Romney's own words:

"With increased attention on judicial nominees after President Bush’s nomination of John G. Roberts Jr. to the US Supreme Court, Romney said Friday that he has not paid a moment’s notice to his nominees’ political leanings or sexual orientation or to the impact his choices might have on a future presidential run. He said he has focused on two factors: their legal experience and whether the nominees would be tough on crime….

Observers in the Bay State legal community, meanwhile, said they see a contradiction between Romney’s judicial choices and his conservative rhetoric, including his stated opposition to same-sex marriage….

The governor said that, so far, he has had few chances to appoint judges to the highest state courts, where his criteria would change to include “strict construction, judicial philosophy.”

“With regards to those at the district court and clerk magistrate level, their political views aren’t really going to come into play unless their views indicate they will be soft on crime, because in that case, apply elsewhere,” Romney said. "

And you lot are banking on Romney to appoint solid conservatives to the Supreme Court?

George True| 4.13.12 @ 4:35PM

So your preference would be to have Obama appointing hardcore leftists to the Supreme Court?

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:55PM

George, did you not read any of that?

ROMNEY appoints hardcore leftists to the court TOO.

Why do you think John "Souter's a conservative" Sununu is a key advisor?

Tom| 4.13.12 @ 10:01PM

And your evidence that Romney won't select leftist judges is......???????

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:29AM

George,
Teflon/Tom is Clint.

Clint| 4.15.12 @ 10:22AM

That's A Lie.

You're A Liar,W.

I Got $1000.00 That Says Neither Tom Nor Teflon Are Me.

Put Up Or Shut Up, Liar,W.

W| 4.15.12 @ 1:46PM

Same sex trash talk, same roboposting, same evasion of the issue, same cowardly threats, same language. There is more, don't have time today.

Send the $1,000 to Israel Defense Fund c/o AIPAC.

Tom| 4.15.12 @ 4:08PM

More lies and delusions from The Big Whore.

W| 4.15.12 @ 5:50PM

Clintef, keep posting the sex trash talk. You prove who you are.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 8:46PM

You taking the bet, you coward?

W| 4.15.12 @ 11:19PM

Clinten,
There you go again idiot answering as Teflon for Clint. This is too easy. Try another name this week.
This getting to you? Can't keep your answers straight?
Send the check to the Israeli Defense Fund c/oAIPAC.

Will Not Vote For Rmoney| 4.13.12 @ 4:36PM

Wrong George. The only one standing in the way of Americans losing "our Republic" is the one who created it. His name is God. If more Americans put their faith in Him instead of politicians this country wouldn't be in the mess it's in. Mitt Romney will do nothing to change it. His own words & record bear this out. This country isn't going anywhere until God gives the word & if the state of affairs in this country continue to worsen it will be because of those who trust fallible politicians to provide their every need instead of God, who is our true provider. Liberal Republicans have a pathetic track record, Romney included, yet Republican voters keep putting party before God, family, & country in that order. What do you expect the result to be? This is precisely why the founders of this nation said this Republic can only be sustained by keeping our priorities straight - God first, then family & country. The minute the country returns to this you will see the kind of turnaround you think liberal Republicans like Romney will cause to occur. Mark it down - when your problems seem big your god (politicians) is too small. To gaze upon the greatness of God - to see Him as He truly is and then comprehend that in spite of God's awesome transcendence He truly loves us- that is the place of victory. God first every thing else after.

George True| 4.13.12 @ 7:36PM

It goes (almost) without saying that our individual and collective fate, and that of our Republic are in God's hands. And our prayers are the most powerful thing going for us. "The fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much." -Proverbs

That being said, it is your stated preference then, that you would prefer that the Marxist Obama and NOT Romney be the one to make Supreme Court appointments between now and January 2017? Because, make no mistake, that is EXACTLY what you are saying when you say that you will not vote for Romney.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 8:57PM

George, you've been showed Romney's record on judicial appointments---it's liberals as far as the eye can see, including some extremely radical ones, especially on gay rights.

Why don't you just admit you pull the lever for whichever name has the (-R) beside it and drop the pretense?

Tom| 4.13.12 @ 10:03PM

Because he is a Romneyzoid who is more interested in wishful thinking rather than solid, hard core evidence.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 10:35PM

Tom, have you noticed the MittBots continue to claim pie-in-the-sky things Romney will magically do while claiming we conservatives don't provide evidence---yet all the links and Romney quotes are provided by those of us who don't believe Romney's a conservative?

And most of those in Romney's own words and video appearances, no less?

They just ignore the man's record and claim the 28 years of his political career don't matter----NOW he's going to be more conservative than Reagan!

Tom| 4.13.12 @ 10:42PM

Yep, I've mentioned elsewhere that their attitude is similar to a person who is about to enter into a marriage with the attitude, "Well, I'll change
him/her after the wedding."

Such situations rarely turn out well.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 10:53PM

Nope---it's politically stupid too. If Romney wins, he will be the leader of the GOP and won't be beholden to anybody. There's no incentive for him to change even if he was of a mind too once he has the power he craves.

People point out Reagan, but he stopped being a Democrat 30 years before he became the Republican nominee for president in 1980 and a strong conservative since at least 1954. His "A Time for Choosing" speech at the 1964 convention---a full 16 years before his landslide victory----demonstrated he was a committed conservative of unusual perspicacity. Romney claims to have become a conservative sometime around 2005 but hasn't shown anywhere near the commitment Reagan had even over the extremely short period of time since then.

And yet these folks claim he'll be a more conservative president than Ronaldus Magnus.

They've taken leave of their senses.

George True| 4.14.12 @ 3:34PM

I'm not a Romney fan. But our choice is either him or Obama. Pick your poison. Even Romney would be better than a hardcore Marxist like Obama.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 4:39PM

You could choose Gingrich or Paul, both of whom are still in the race; either of whom is better than Obama.

You could also choose neither of the above, since electing liberals is not something conservatives do.

If you're simply a Republican, by all means, vote for whichever person they tell you to.

Occam's Tool| 4.16.12 @ 2:53AM

George: possibly 4, sir. Breyer is in his 70s, as are Scalia, and Kennedy. Then there's that foul excuse for a human being, Ginsberg.

The worst part about Soto and Kagan is that both are in their 50s, in addition to being Liberalscum.

By the way, Dr. R, Nick, and assorteds, you guys are great. I'd also like to welcome back Mr. True, who has been away for a while. I'm off to buy some Mitt stuff. Toodles, everyone.

Deborah Sampson| 4.13.12 @ 3:52PM

Great piece!! I do not feel so alone now as I have been saying the same thing to my conservative friends for months. {Well, actually I gave up recently because the "Mitt can never win" diatribes grew too tiresome.} My favorite points were (a)The great and powerful O. will not be able to stop himself from getting angry and making coments that I believe will FINALLY wake up the sleepwalking moderate Independents and [the few that are left] Dems. And (b)Many of these same folks [who voted for Obama in '08] are just not ready to say out loud that they will NOT vote for Obama again. [Even to pollsters] BUT when they get in the privacy of the voting booth they will vote their own self-interest [as they did with Reagan], even if they do not want to admit it. I live in a very blue state and I have been very surprised recently by the liberal folks I know admitting they are extremely disappointed in Obama. I think being afraid of having the race card drawn precludes them from discussing opionions that are any stronger. While they are loathe to admit they will vote for Romney they are at the point where, when asked, they will sigh and shrug their shoulders and say "we'll see". My conservative and Tea party friends seem to have forgotten that it is almost always the case that the Independents and folks in the middle decide elections. And I do not see why 2012 will be any different. Certainly a part of me would enjoy seeing Obama verbally eviscerated and "called out" by someone like Gingrich. But I completely agree that the folks whose votes Romney needs to win the most want to see positivity and optimsim. That is after all what Obama sold to them so successfully in 2008.

JP| 4.13.12 @ 4:08PM

The election will be decided in Colorado, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Ohio, and Florida. I think NC will go to Mitt, and that Obama's dreams of taking that state were doomed in 2010. I would love to see some internal polling in those states. The GOP might have had a chance to win in Wisconsin, but the re-call election there has screwed things up. Ditto for Michigan. I don't think the GOP operators in those states were ready for the amount of vitriol and ill-will the unions have created there. Indiana, if anything, has gone more to the Right after the 2008 election. Obama will not keep the Hoosier state. Virginia is a toss-up. It all depends upon how strong Mitt can distance himself from the Left. His Progressive record will make this very difficult. Florida is also a toss-up. It is no coincidence that the Trayvon Martin cases went viral. The Astroturfing there by the Dems indicates that the Oval Office fears a loss of Florida is real.I wonder if the Obama campaign has similar plans for Ohio and Pennsylvania?

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 4:11PM

JP, Romney has no chance in NC or VA because he has no appeal to conservative Blue Dogs. It's a huge issue and denial by MittBots only guarantees he's going to lose.

The Dems are in Charlotte for a reason.

JP| 4.13.12 @ 4:56PM

We shall see. And you are correct that Romney will have a problem with conservatives in both states. Much will depend upon the President himself. So far, the only strategy Obama seems to have is to energize the GOP. He may in fact be doing Romney a favor. I see a certain similarity with ALGORE in 2000. But the former VP decided that the best way to win was to stress his gun control bonafides, stress the rightness of raising taxes, and lectured the nation incessently. All that he managed to do was scare the heck out of 50% of the electorate. Obama is doing the same thing. Romney's biggest ally may be the President and Axelrod.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 9:02PM

Okay, JP, but also remember that Romney supported gun control:

“We Do Have Tough Gun Laws In Massachusetts. I Support Them. I Won’t Chip Away At Them. I Believe They Help Protect Us And Provide For Our Safety.” (Gubernatorial Candidates Debate,
Springfield, MA, 9/24/02)

Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1bJOpYUqE

Again, this is his RECORD. It's Mitt Romney himself saying these things.

Why you think he's a conservative, I just don't get. He's not. And there's hours and hours of video of him telling us he's not.

Russel| 4.13.12 @ 8:44PM

I'd accuse you of being Pennell , but he's not a defeatist . Look pal , if you like Zero so much , go join his camp and leave those of us who want to win --alone .

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 9:02PM

Romney has no prayer of winning. And you head-in-the-sand RINOs are pathetic.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 10:54PM

I've posted here for years and I have no idea who Pennell is. Or who you are.

David| 4.13.12 @ 6:58PM

Teflon, WITHOUT a majority in the senate, there is very little repubs can do about the liberal judges dems and especially Bam Bam appoint to the Court.

That is my entire point, and you just made it for me. Thank you. We DO have control over the repub prez (as we did with Bush), and have ZERO control over Bam Bam.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 9:05PM

We have no such thing.

You have been utterly unable to provide an example where any GOP Senate has "reined in" any GOP RINO president.

Moreover, you can't even show where current GOP senators have reined in Obama.

That's because there's no evidence of any such thing---it's a complete fantasy.

Look at Romney's RECORD. He is a LIBERAL.

Deal with it.

You're voting for the guy because you think the (-R) is magic---that makes you a Republican, not a conservative.

Russel| 4.13.12 @ 9:15PM

I'd accuse you of being Pennell , but he's not a defeatist . Look pal , if you like Zero so much , go join his camp and leave those of us who want to win --alone .

Tom| 4.13.12 @ 10:18PM

Romneyzoids like you cannot grasp the simple idea that a person of good conscience can oppose BOTH Romeny and Obama. Instead, you spew out LIES, such as if you refuse to back Romney, you must be necessity support Obama.

A much wiser man than I said centuries ago, "A pox on both your houses!" That is my attitude towards the 2012 election.

To continue to say that a person who doesn't vote for Romney is an "Obama lover"is an outright LIE, and is nothing but a sign of utter desperation to compel others to vote for Romney, because there is little else they can do to justify their support for somebody who doesn't have a conservative bone in his body.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 10:41PM

On top of that they claim we're not conservative---while they're simply voting for anybody the Republican Establishment slaps up there, regardless of ideology and record.

One thing about this election---it's made clear who is a conservative and who is a Republican.

And there's not much overlap there.

If it weren't for people like Drek, who will vote for Romney but doesn't have many illusions about Romney's actual beliefs, I'd say there was no overlap at all based on this thread.

I could never pull the lever for Obama---his sociopathic attitude toward the unborn would make it a grave sin to do so---but the lack of principle these folks display is stunning enough that had the Dems run an oldschool prolife pol I'd vote for a Dem for the first time in my life over Mittens.

No chance of them doing that, though---they actually pay attention to their base. That's why the GOP is The Stupid Party and soon to be The Whig Party.

Tom| 4.14.12 @ 10:12AM

At least the Paultards have principles and ideas that they sincerely stick by and place more value in than merely political expediency; albeit most of them are wrong and misguided. Most of the Romneyzoids I see here are nothing more than cheap GOP political hacks who would vote for ANYBODY that has that "R" after their name.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 2:00PM

Yes, although that Paul/Romney deal really bugs me. Paul may be wrong and on some things nuts, but cutting a deal so he could advance Rand's career? That's a little much.

I guess we'll know soon enough if such a deal is in place. If it isn't, I'm tempted to vote Paul simply because he may be the only thing resembling a conservative still on the Nov ballot (if he goes 3rd party as expected).

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:30AM

Clint/Teflon/Tom
Having a conversation with yourself, your multiple personalities?

Tom| 4.15.12 @ 4:10PM

The Big Whore has to spew forth such nonsense because he/she/it has abolustely NO worthwhile answers to the issues that are brought up.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 5:35PM

He's a coward and a liar, Tom.

Which is not unusual for his RINO brethren.

Say---do you think maybe he's Arlen Specter?

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 5:34PM

And now Tom is me too? But which Tom? Two posted in these threads.

I've hit DoctorWrongWhore so many times he's seeing at least FOUR of me now!

W| 4.15.12 @ 5:52PM

Clintef
You chickened out for Monday, are you showing up on Wednesday or Friday, You can bring all yor multiple names with you. Sissy Moron.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 8:45PM

There is no Monday Apr 15th this year, you little pussy. I gave you your new time and address below. Show up.

W| 4.15.12 @ 11:23PM

Clinten,
You asked me to name the place, date, time. Gave you three dates this coming week, Monday or Wed or Frid. So you chicken out, and claim you were confused about whether Monday was the 15th or 16th. Ok,. I can see how you would be confused if I told you on Saturday to meet on Monday. Maybe you thought next year, right sissy?
So now to chicken out, you invent an adress in NC and Philly. Remember you asked me to set the place, time, date, which I did. You are pathetic. I set the place, date , and time, Idiot, as you asked.

Teflon93| 4.16.12 @ 10:45AM

Once again, W(hore) is revealed as a liar as well as a coward:

"W| 4.14.12 @ 2:42PM

Ok, Clint/Teflon,
Bob's Diner, Main Street, Carnegie Pa. Take the parkway to the Carnegie exit, get on West Main st. You cannot miss it. See you Monday, April 15, at 12:00Am. Wear you Obama shirt so I can recognize you.

Have a pleasant weekend, Clint/Teflon."

W| 4.16.12 @ 6:13PM

See below, Clintef.

mjs_pa| 4.13.12 @ 10:06PM

I didn't read past the sub-title "stay positive". Obviously the author of this piece has been in outer space the last 4 or 5 months. romney has been a tsunami of negativity and lies....all against conservatives. Terms like carpet bombing have also been used to describe his well funded ads and robo calling.

He's lost my vote, and the RNC has lost my party membership.

Teflon93| 4.13.12 @ 10:43PM

Have you joined the Tea Party, mjs? There's hope there.

If the PA in your moniker means "Pennsylvania", that's another crucial swing state vote the GOP's fumbled by forcing a liberal down our throats....

proreason| 4.13.12 @ 11:23PM

I recommend that mitt spend every dime he can get his hands on trashing every aspect of obama's life.

It probably won't work, but at least Mitt would be doing something he's good at.

TeaPartyPatriot4ever| 4.13.12 @ 11:57PM

This Primary race is not over yet, regardless of what RINO Romney says, or the media says..

Ronald Reagan never won any States in 1980 until NC, then went on to win the Nomination and the Presidency.. and we haven't even gotten to NC, let alone Texas, who hasn't even voted yet.

This presumptive Nomination garbage, is all about the progressive GOP RINO's preemptive attempt to try to circumvent the whole Republican Primary process, and proclaim their anointment of Romney, before all the States like Texas, and all the conservative people have even voted.

Newt needs to stay in the race, and we must not concede to Romney, period. Conservatives must have a conservative choice, an alternative to the Mass liberal progressive Republican RINO Romney.

Romney is a self proclaimed Mass. moderate progressive establishment Republican, aka a liberal, aka a RINO..

He personally publically denounced Ronald Reagan and Reagan Conservatism, thus he is the Republican antithesis of Ronald Reagan.

Romney is the worst possible choice of all choices as the Republican Party Nominee, as he is not a conservative, let alone a Republican politician of opposite ideology and political policies of Obama.

Here's how to expose the GOP Romney RINO establishment hypocrisy-

As a Conservative, let alone as a Republican, how does one defend a Ted Kennedy collaborated forced mandated substandard inferior State Socialized Medicine entitlement program law that bankrupts the residents, citizens, and Independent businesses and companies in the Free Market Capitalist Free Enterprise system of a State, let alone the Nation, but then turns around and argues that he must repeal Obamacare, the very same thing he implemented and refuses to refute and repeal in his on State called Romneycare."

For all intents and purposes, Romney should be Obama's running mate.

What will they debate, how much each of them loves inferior substandard force mandated State Socialized Medicine programs like Obamacare and Romneycare.. How they both love Global warming cap and trade policies and programs.. How they both love crony capitalism to prop up govt, and stifle the Free Market economy.. How much they both love social welfare programs.. How much they both love to spend and borrow and tax.. How much they both support abortion rights, and how much they both lie about everything they say and do, and use blame game excuses for political plausible deniability, etc, etc, etc..

The Truth speaks for itself, and all the Romney GOP Progressive Republican RINO propaganda and delusional denial by all the progressive RINO Romney-ites in the world cannot hide it, let alone makes taste any better.

This is why Conservatives are not necessarily Republicans, and Republicans are not necessarily Conservatives.

I, along with millions of other Tea Party Reagan Conservatives, will never support and vote for Mr. liberal progressive Republican GOP RINO Romney, period. !

Patty50 | 4.14.12 @ 11:43AM

As a tea party member I feel your comments are disturbing and cannot be further from the truth.
The Tea Party was created as a fiscal conservative movement in response to the Obama's spending spree , increasing debt and the failure of his policies but not as a social conservative movement as certain members now want to portray .
Our Country needs a President who has the knowledge to turn the economy arround and has true family values .
Regan was not a conservative early in his life, he was a democrat, a president of a union, supported abortion rights and only become a fiscal, social and constitutional Republican President later on.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 2:10PM

I'm a Tea Party member so let me spank you.

1. Reagan was a Republican by 1950 and a conservative by 1954. That was 30 and 26 years before he got the nomination. Moreover, Reagan was one of the most consistent and public conservative leaders in the intervening years, as notably when he gave the famous "A Time for Choosing" speech at the 1964 convention. He was a diehard, rock-ribbed, vocal and loyal conservative.

2. Mitt Romney is a liberal. Always has been. As his record amply demonstrates. Romney supported gun control, gay rights, liberal judges, socialized medicine, tax hikes, cap and trade, and just about every other stupid, budgetbusting liberal idea that came down the Mass pike.

Here is his record:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj8Nk3p1wyY

Look closely at it---you'll note how many times in his final year as governor while preparing for his presidential run he claimed some conservative epiphany, only to make his last actions in office liberal ones. Why, for example, did Romney leave so many judicial vacancies for Deval Patrick to fill if he'd had a "change of heart" toward conservative picks? Why did Romney support abortion AFTER his ludicrous epiphany at the hands of a Harvard bioethicist (who denies that happened, btw)?

Just yesterday, Romney was sucking up to the NRA, after supporting Mass gun control laws, signing an assault weapons ban there, and getting caught lying---laughably---about owning a gun he later had to admit was in fact his son's. And here he is on video:

So sorry, Patty, but that won't hunt---with or without a firearm.

Patty50 | 4.14.12 @ 10:05PM

As a Conservative that you are which one was your favorite candidate in this election and why?

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 3:07PM

Patty - I favored half the Republican field---in this order and for these reasons:

Michelle Bachmann - staunchest conservative of the lot and a lady who has more fight in her than the rest of the pack. Not surprisingly, when I took Tim Grosseclose's political quotient quiz---which, BTW, cowardly W/Doctor Right refused to take for rather obvious reasons---she is the politician who scored closest to me (0 is the most conservative score possible, mine was 3, hers 4.1).

Herman Cain - another conservative slimed by the Romney machine with a dollop of help from Axelrod. Cain is a good man with the wisdom to realize that technocratic tinkering won't save the nation---a more radical shrinking of government is absolutely necessary. Cain is also the happiest of happy warriors.

Rick Santorum - A solid conservative whose only transgressions (supporting Medicare Part D and Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey) were done out of misplaced loyalty to the Republican Party and George W. Bush. Part of the reason he comes over as angry is because he realizes how badly he was betrayed by RINOs. He is a courageous man---he stood in and took the 2006 beating he knew was coming, unlike Little Lord MittleRoy, who fled Mass. so fast he left 10 lifetime judicial picks for left wing hack Deval Patrick to make instead in order to save his own skin. Santorum is a real Catholic and the MittBot mockery of both how he and his wife dealt with the tragic loss of his son and with his daughter's terrible prognosis is yet another reason I will NEVER associate with such people. Santorum also sees the precipice we're on---which is evidenced by his opposition to TARP.

Rick Perry - the minimally acceptable candidate to me. Weak on immigration, prone to Big Government policy disasters like the HPV mandate Bachmann rightly ripped him for, but also a rock solid economic conservative who has turned formerly Democrat Texas into a GOP bulwark and the best possible rebuke to blue state People's Republics like California and New York. MittBots mocked him for being dumb and inarticulate---the same people had no such problem with Dubya, who was no dummy but certainly inarticulate---because the guy had to take painkillers in order to stand up for those long debates. Romney would have had a NY Times photographer documenting his "heroic" recovery from surgery; Perry toughed it out and frankly I don't know how he managed to do it at all. I can certainly see how he managed to kill that coyote though---he's tough. We need tough.

I differ with a number of my fellow conservatives in that I don't support Newt Gingrich. I don't trust him. He did a lousy job as Speaker once the initial Contract with America rollout was completed chiefly because he isn't much of a leader---visionary yes, leader, no. His ego is second to none and most of his enormous mistakes may be laid at its feet. I vowed I would never support him again once he not only endorsed liberal Dede Scozzafava in NY-23 over a conservative primary opponent but also saw fit to tear conservatives a new one for embracing principles over politics. Sitting on that park bench with Crazy Eyes Pelosi while embracing the global warming hoax just sealed the deal. I do like that he has the stones to take on left wing moderators to their faces and will not accept liberal premises to debate questions. I don't see any evidence his Catholic conversion was serious either---using that to dodge accountability for the way he treated his two ex-wives is a big no-no and any true Catholic knows that we can't even receive Communion (a requirement to be fully Catholic at any point in time) if we're divorced. To the best of my knowledge he's never tried to reconcile with Marianne, which a true conversion would minimally entail. And lest non-Catholics misunderstand, that's not me weighing in on what one can never know regarding the state of his soul---I certainly hope he's repented and that he will one day join the saints in their eternal reward. But of course I hope that for everyone, so not a real high bar.

The rest of the field is simply a mishmash of RINOs and liberals, none of whom have done or will do anything for the conservative movement IMO.

Your question was very gracious and I've hopefully answered in that spirit, although I suspect you would disagree with my take on the field, probably strongly.

Occam's Tool| 4.16.12 @ 2:57AM

I loved Michelle, and I'm sorry she lost. What I would like to know about Mitt is whether he is an honest politician: that is, when he states that he will be supporting a certain principle if elected, will he stay there when elected. I use as my favorite example George Wallace, who governed Alabama is two contrary ways, but always fulfilling campaign promises (his last term as governor was the most integrationalist in that State's history). Does anyone have that data on Romney?

TeaPartyPatriot4ever| 4.16.12 @ 11:38PM

quote-

"Let us be sure that those who come after will say… we did everything that could be done."

You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done."

Freedom ... must be fought for, protected, and handed on for [our children] to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children, what it was once like where men were free.

There can be no real peace while one American is dying some place in the world for the rest of us. We're at war with the most dangerous enemy that has ever faced mankind ... and ... if we lose that war, and in so doing lose this way of freedom of ours, history will record ... that those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent its happening."

~President Ronald Wilson Reagan~

This is why Conservatives are not necessarily Republicans, and Republicans are not necessarily Conservatives.

Progressive GOP Republican Party establishment RINO's lie Romney put the Republican Party before and above the US Constitution, Democracy, Freedom and Liberty second, whereas Reagan Constitutional Conservatives puts the US Constitution, Democracy, Freedom and Liberty first, then the GOP RINO Party second or third. In other words, Romney's actions speak louder than his political propaganda rhetoric of lies..

You either owe me an apology, whjich I will not hold breath for, or reply with some kind of Romney-ite drone gibberish.. Either way, you should have said something competently coherent in response madam, especially if you actually believe yourself to be a Tea Party member, which Romney-ites drones are not.

TeaPartyPatriot4ever| 4.13.12 @ 11:59PM

Just like GHW Bush and the GOP RINO establishment hated Constitutional Conservative Ronald Reagan and all Conservatives in 1980, then with GHW Bush's arrogance and contempt for Conservatives in Bush's 1992's re-election, so do Romney and the GOP RINO establishment do today, and they will get the same results today as they did back then.

AVCurmudgeon| 4.14.12 @ 12:02AM

I'm not at all happy that once again the GOP establishment has excised every conservative and left us with a squishy centrist, but that's another issue.

I agree with the thesis: for all his superficial polish and carefully cultivated "metro-cool" style, Obama is very beatable. This is the first time in his life that he has had to run on his record instead of against someone else's. It is the first time in his life that his accomplishments, deeds, words and personality will be under the microscope.

I don't think he can handle it, or that he will handle it well. He's already starting to fracture under the strain, as witnessed by his response to the reporter's questions about his vacations. If the RNC and SuperPACs can keep the pressure on every negative and Romney can keep up with speeches like his one today at the NRA, he can win.

He's not the candidate I want, not even close. But he can win, and getting rid of Obama is still Job One.

MPPB| 4.14.12 @ 1:03AM

The only problem with the author's analogy is that,whatever you thought of their politics, Ronald Reagan and Rudy Giuliani were leaders.
It is Mitt Romney's election to lose and he's more than capable of doing just that.

Tim| 4.14.12 @ 1:22AM

The problem is that Romney must go negative
to offset the Billion dollar Obama slice and dice machine

We know Romney could go Nasty just ask Gingrich and Santorum.

The point being is that while its nice to say all he needs is to stay positive the reality is that he will have no choice but go nasty on Obama's record because you can bet Obama will go postal on Romney's record.

A Sphincter Says What?| 4.14.12 @ 3:00AM

This is the truth. I would argue that Mitt Obomney only knows how to run negative ads. Make no mistake, Obomney can not run on his record EITHER. His background of liberalism and championing important issues from the same position as Obama is going to get exploited to the MAX by Obama's hatchet crew. Obomney is NO CONSERVATIVE and the WEAKEST Republican we had in the race. Good luck being "positive" for 6 months straight after Obama exposes him effectively as a liberal.

SD Harms| 4.14.12 @ 8:03AM

If you think "staying positive" is the recipe to win, you are living in an alternate universe. Romney is about to get hit with a wrecking ball the size of which he cant imagine. He can come out stammering all he wants, I dont think he has the constitution to withstand it.

martin j smith| 4.14.12 @ 8:16AM

He has to do these things: Keep the focus on Obama's record,offer positive alternatives and act like a human being. I think he can win if he does these things.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 2:12PM

He can't. How can you forget that Obama has the Left Wing Media circling the wagons around him?

Didn't Andrea Mitchell's announcement on the very day Santorum withdrew that MSNBC was investigating LDS' history on race clue you in there?

somnolence| 4.14.12 @ 10:45AM

Romney has 3.5 years of Obama DELIBERATELY destroying this country. Get real on who has the REAL wrecking ball advantage. You "Tea Partiers" (a loud laugh, BTW) apparently know nothing about the differences between state mandates(ALL states have them) and blanket federalism. Romney WAS the conservative candidate in 2008, but since you crybabies got your comeuppance this year by supporting entrenched Establishment types like Gingrich and Santorum your wails make Baby Huey seem like a piker. Stay home, who really gives a damn. In the end it works both ways: we "RINOS" may not be able to win without you, but you sure as hell can't win without us either, chumps.

A Sphincter Says What?| 4.14.12 @ 11:03AM

Somnolence, "You Tea Partiers......know nothing of the difference between state mandates and blanket federalism." That statement is rediculous man. Of all people who would at least understand the premis of states rights it would be Tea Partiers. Why Obomney is going to lose is because 75% of America doesn't know the difference and doesn't care. What they are going to care about is the very last attack ad they've seen in their 24hr news cycle life. I keep hearing that Santorum, Gingrich, Tea Party supporters need to "get on board for Obomney" and "get in line," and face reality. THE REALITY IS THAT OBOMNEY CAN NOT DEFEND OBOMNEYCARE......with the nuances of the Constitution (as the 75% see it).

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 8:50PM

Romney's federalism argument is nothing but a defense of Romneycare should the Court strike down Obamacare---but the fact that Romney developed, implemented, and continues to defend socialized medicine at the state level is simply another big bit of evidence on the pile that he is a liberal to the bone.

Federalism doesn't mean the Founders wanted little North Koreas dotting the land. The ninth amendment---something RINOs are completely unfamiliar with---is the guard against this, as simply because the federal government is prohibited from usurping the people's rights doesn't mean the states may do so either.

That's where Romney's argument falls apart---but it wasn't much of an argument to begin with.

What conservatives should realize is that Romney views Romneycare as his great accomplishment, believes in it, and will defend it to the death.

Anyone claiming to be a conservative who would do the same is lying, deluded, or both.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 2:12PM

Yes, you RINOs can only accidentally destroy the country given how incompetent you are.

Calmoderate | 4.14.12 @ 11:15AM

Interesting take on the situation. It might turn out that way, but I doubt it. Obama is making it very clear that he will run on his record - he is running on his record now. He is pretty seasoned and tough and may or may not crack mentally. If I had to bet, I would bet against it at this point in time. But, since there is so much time between now and the election, this is mostly an exercise in reading tea leaves, not an exact science. Between now and then, Israel could attack Iran, the economy and jobs situation could get significantly better or worse, gas prices could go up or down, hundreds of Americas could be killed by terrorists and the federal government again shown to be inept, California or the East Coast could be hit with a magnitude 9.5 earthquake with a botched FEMA response, etc. All kinds of unpredictable things could happen with significant effects on the election.

On top of that, it might (just might) take more than simply staying positive to beat Obama. The American public is in a relatively sour mood with both parties if opinion polls are any indication. Independents are uncomfortable with Romney personally, but more aligned with his generally center-right views. The independents will likely decide this. Obama isn't nearly as inept a campaigner as Carter was and its hard to see significantly more democrats voting for Romney than republicans voting for Obama. It might take some real creative out of the box thinking and intelligent policy solutions, which neither party seems able to come up with these days. At this point in time, its a draw.

somnolence| 4.14.12 @ 11:30AM

The undeniable fact remains that the mythological Tea Party cannot win without the mainstream GOP and vice versa. And no, fervent Tea Partiers don't understand the difference between federalism and state mandates. I recommend Ann Coulter's latest column. Obama has NO record to run on. Romney will point out all the waivers given to union cronies, etc. on Obamacare and destroy the Islamic pretender in chief on that alone. Should be an interesting campaign, but so many here underestimate Romney's capability and skill at cutthroat politics also, which he WILL use if the idiots TRY and use the history of Mormonism, etc. Islam is more than fair game in that case, as many of us will be more than happy to trumpet it every day along with the BC issue if the campaign resorts to trivial distractions in order to avoid the gas pump, devalued iras and 401ks, the deficit, etc.

A Sphincter Says What?| 4.14.12 @ 12:16PM

I guess we'll see in Nov! You're already tying yourself in knots and circular arguements trying to justify calling a liberal a conservative. What I am actually seeing in a lot of these posts are what I suspect to be fellow Mormons (generally conservative) trying to justify voting for a fellow Mormon. The Mormon support for Obomney is something like 75-80% simply because of his religion. Let it be known....I COULD CARE LESS that Obomney is a Mormon. I'm just saying that I see a lot of posts here trying to sprinkle magic dust and baffling BS in order to call a liberal a conservative. "Polls show that people don't care about Obomneycare." The 24hr news cycle crowd will care when Obama runs ads saying, "Obamacare must be great because it was modeled after Obomneycare, so why not give me another 4 yrs to make it work for 'the nation." We'll see in Nov. Obomney is a loser I'm afraid, and Obama is a LOSER period.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 2:15PM

The "mythological" Tea Party continues to turn out hundreds of thousands of protestors and just gave the GOP it's biggest Congressional victory since 1948.

That's after you damned RINOs pissed away the 1994 gains with your emptyheaded liberalism and weak-kneed appeasement.

You're perfectly happy being Bob Michel's permanent minority, it's seeing conservatives in the driver's seat that give you the vapors since it horrifies the brunch set at the country club.

Now go away---the adults have important work to do.

Clint| 4.14.12 @ 11:58AM

Tell It To Bibi, RomneyBot Somenonsense.

"A lot of people don't care for the fact that he effectively put through 'Romneycare,'" said Jane Aitken, who runs the New Hampshire Tea Party Coalition Web site. "That's the big one."

We Are Being Set Up By The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

David| 4.14.12 @ 12:00PM

Somonolence, Ann Coulter has been an idiot throughout this campaign. The outright lies she tells about Romney's CONSERVATISM.

She fails to mention that Romney only got conservative support the last time around AFTER Fred Thompson and other conservatives dropped out.

We supported Romney only because our other choice was McCain, and McCain is anathema to conservatives. So all of Coulter's and others' BS about us supporting Romney as the conservative candidate last time is simply crap.

I can't believe Ann has lied through her teeth for Romney throughout this primary. She lost a lot of my respect.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 2:16PM

Well, she did date Oldefarte after all....

bob| 4.14.12 @ 1:20PM

Would that the insights in this article come true....

beebop2| 4.14.12 @ 1:20PM

Thd day after 0bama's crushing defeat clit, teflon and purp will do the circle jerk of the vanquished ... oh happy day.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 2:16PM

Spit Karl Rove's balls out before you talk---you're mumbling.

beebop2| 4.14.12 @ 5:10PM

I thought that Karl's balls were more in your .... er .... um .... well .... taste! Happily not in the market.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 7:16PM

lol---alright, I'll hand it to you, beebop2---that was a pretty funny comeback.

Clint| 4.14.12 @ 1:36PM

That's The Same Shuck & Jive Trash Talkin' The Specterites & McCainiacs Gave Us, Before Thay Got Disappeared, 2 Bee Boobs.

We Are Being Set Up By The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail....

Bill| 4.14.12 @ 1:36PM

Romney is leading 4 points (48%-44%) in a recent FNC poll, and will defeat Obama handily. We need to unify our conservative base to thwart the liberal conspiracy to rig the outcome of the election, as they did in 2008.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 2:19PM

Like the liberals rigged the GOP primary, you mean?

Romney bumped because he's the likely nominee. Don't worry, his polls will drop because Romney drove his own negatives sky high with his unrelentingly nasty and deceitful attacks on his opponents.

Obama has far more money and all the left wing media help he needs to drive home the message on Romney. Plus an oppo research file three times as long as the one I've posted.

Bill| 4.14.12 @ 3:04PM

It's all good. I hope Romney will pick Gov. Chris Christie as the VP, that will force Obama to campaign in NJ, and if GOP can win FL, VA, NC, OH, NJ, MI, PA, that will ensure a Obama defeat.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 3:23PM

That would be the worst pick he could make, Bill. Obama's going to pick up more in the South if there are two northeasterners on the ticket.

Romney can certainly write off VA and NC if Christie's on the ticket. The Blue Dogs will never come over to support a metrosexual liberal and a rude liberal.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 3:24PM

Meaning they already have a metrosexual liberal they can vote for who has the advantage of not getting them called racists for not voting for him.

The Dems are convening in Charlotte for a reason.

A Sphincter Says What?| 4.14.12 @ 7:22PM

Jesus Christ Bill! I am a conservative voting for Obama right now based upon a lot of things I've posted before however, I am open for Obomney and the supporters giving me verbal blowjobs in order to garner my vote. IF OBOMNEY PICKS CHRISTY AS HIS VP WE WILL WITNESS THE SINGLE WORST PICK IN MY LIFETIME.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 5:50PM

Hey ASSW---are you me or am I you? I'm trying to keep an inventory given DoctorWrongWhore's accusations.

If either or both of us is Jeff Lord or Quin Hillyer, please let me know too.

W| 4.15.12 @ 5:53PM

Clintef,
Are you showing up, sissy moron?

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 8:42PM

There is no Monday, Apr 16th this year you little pussy.

You had a date with Clint at 4 pm today nearby---you obviously didn't make it or you'd be typing with splints.

I'll make it easy on you though---Fri Apr 27th 10:30 pm 10616 Providence Rd, Charlotte, NC 28277. Back of the market is where I will settle your hash, coward.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 8:43PM

Monday Apr 15th rather. I was figuring out which tooth to knock out of your head first when I should have been concentrating.

W| 4.15.12 @ 10:02PM

Clintef,
Sissy.
You asked me to name the place, date, and time. Now you chicken out. Tomorrow is monday, april 16,idiot,which is the first date I gave you. Wed is april 18, Frid is april 20.
You have chickened out of all three, first claiming you could not make it. I gave you the date yesterday,Saturday, April 14.
Buy a calendar ,sissy.

Teflon93| 4.16.12 @ 10:48AM

Once again, W(hore) is revealed for a liar and a coward:

"W| 4.14.12 @ 2:42PM

Ok, Clint/Teflon,
Bob's Diner, Main Street, Carnegie Pa. Take the parkway to the Carnegie exit, get on West Main st. You cannot miss it. See you Monday, April 15, at 12:00Am. Wear you Obama shirt so I can recognize you.

Have a pleasant weekend, Clint/Teflon."

Beyond that, Bob's Diner isn't on Main St but Mansfield St. Nice try, coward.

W| 4.16.12 @ 6:12PM

Clintef,
West Main and Mansfield is same, sissy. Should have been more clear. Looking for any reason to chicken out, sissy.
Now that you have the adress and date right, see you on Wed or Frid? I will order you a burger.

As for your silly question, every Rep I have voted for has always been more conservative than the Dem. I don't throw away my vote on third parties like Keyes and whoever you voted for in 76 that helped elect Carter and Clinton. You can vote for anyone you like, your decision,and I don't care. Is that clear enough?

Kingofthenet| 4.14.12 @ 2:00PM

Did you all hear about Mittens, 'Secret views'? So I guess Mitt is the Manchurian candidate for REAL? I guess IF he gets elected, his Wall Street Handlers will send the secret signals and the pre-program will commence.

Kingofthenet| 4.14.12 @ 2:00PM

Did you all hear about Mittens, 'Secret views'? So I guess Mitt is the Manchurian candidate for REAL? I guess IF he gets elected, his Wall Street Handlers will send the secret signals and the pre-program will commence.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 2:20PM

Obama's the Manchurian Candidate but Little Lord MittleRoy is the Northeastern Metrosexual candidate.

Once again, let's acquaint ourselves with Romney's actual record:

Clint| 4.14.12 @ 2:44PM

The Ruling Elites' Frick & Frack Show.

Top Obama Campaign Donors:

University of California $1,648,685
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Columbia University $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
US Government $513,308
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295

Top Romney Campaign Donors:

Goldman Sachs $235,275
Citigroup Inc $178,450
Merrill Lynch $176,125
Morgan Stanley $170,350
Lehman Brothers $154,800
UBS AG $125,150
JPMorgan Chase & Co $123,800
Bain & Co $121,475
Marriott International $121,150
Bain Capital $118,550
Kirkland & Ellis $111,700
The Villages $110,900
Credit Suisse Group $104,900
Compuware Corp $103,550
Huron Consulting $102,050
PricewaterhouseCoopers $92,250
American Financial Group $87,550
Affiliated Managers Group $82,112
Cerberus Capital Management $79,450
Sun Capital Partners $77,850

W| 4.14.12 @ 3:11PM

Dr. Right is Right. Clint is Teflon!

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 3:22PM

W is Doctor Right.

I don't need sock puppets, douchebag. You desperately do.

Nick| 4.14.12 @ 4:54PM

W,

Teflon93 is no O'Bama troll, I can assure you. And, he was posting here months, if not years, before Clint showed up.

We had this same argument in late '08 and early '09, here in the AmSpec comboxes, between those who didn't vote for McLame, and those who blamed them for electing O'Bama.

It was at this time that I realized that if the GOP nominates a moderate/liberal, there are a good number of conservatives who will stay home. And, the polling bore that out, in '08.

I don't condemn them, because I know they are doing it to stand on principle. Which I completely understand. I would never vote for a pro-abort candidate, whatever his party affiliation. So, I couldn't really scold anyone who didn't vote for McShame on some other principle, could I?

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 5:15PM

W's simply embarrassed because he:

a. didn't know Romney's liberal record;

b. repeatedly has been corrected with facts and evidence that he can't even question;

c. has found himself in the terrible situation of being of one mind with Doctor Right, who is one of the three most infamous AmSpec trolls.

Moreover, he has yet to realize that in a thread, you can't throw things down the memory hole, so when he claims I criticized Mormonism, anyone reading his drivel can plainly scroll up and see me praise LDS while wishing this former bishop was more familiar with his own faith---especially when it comes to pro-life issues.

But in his defense, he has the impossible task: you cannot claim to be a principled conservative and vote for a liberal while simultaneously criticizing conservatives who won't vote for a liberal in any circumstance, because the former are clearly compromising their principles to vote for Romney....and they know it.

In his case though, I think he's simply beginning to realize he's not a conservative but merely a Republican, there being no circumstance under which he would not pull the Republican lever.

If a conservative Democrat ever managed to run at the top of that party's ticket and ran against a GOP RINO, I, on the other hand, would cast the first Democrat vote in my life for that candidate. The reason is simple---I'm a conservative, and I vote for candidates to DO something, not BE something.

It is worth noting that not all conservatives who hold their noses and vote for Romney are unprincipled (Drek comes to mind, there are others). They aren't under any illusion that Romney will govern as a conservative and are hoping that conservatives will "rein him in"---somehow. They see it as the first step in a war to win back the GOP, not as the final stage, as the MittBots do with their claims Romney will be greater than Reagan.

I simply have come to the realization that the GOP isn't worth winning back and it is better to start fresh. Your mileage may vary.

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:36AM

Your are wrong Nick. Clint has used a variety of names, Tim, Teflon, Sphincter, and Clint. Read the trash talk and sex talk, all the same. Just like last week when you read the posts by Brother in Christ as identical to Margie.
I don't care who this moron votes for but he pretends to be a conservative or Republican and only enjoys being the skunk at the party.
I thought it was Clint but not sure until he started with the trash talk and sex talk. He was trying to be ratiional until pushed then the Clint trash/sex talk showed.
Read it again, closely.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 11:51AM

I've been here for years, you dimwitted little douchebag.

Loosen those nipple clamps.

W| 4.15.12 @ 1:49PM

ClinTef
With each post you prove Dr Right right. Just use your name, Clint, who cares?

Nick| 4.15.12 @ 1:17PM

W,

Trust me. I've been coming here since '08.
I remember when I first saw Teflon93 comment in the AmSpec comboxes, and, I remember when Tim*/Clint started posting here. It was over a year apart, probably more.

I've conversed with Teflon93 several times in the past, and he has never resembled Clint in any way. But, as I've already stated, Tim*/Clint showed up much, much later. I can't remember when you started posting here, W, I'm sorry. But, I don't think you were here then.

I don't know that BIC is Margie, by the way. If it indeed was her, I was just trying to get her to admit it. I could have been wrong. BIC stopped replying, so, I guess I'll never know.

Remember, Margie used to accuse everyone, with whom she argued, of posting under multiple monikers, too. It is not very productive, in my opinion.
Enjoy the last day of the Easter Octave.
God Bless!

W| 4.15.12 @ 1:55PM

Read the sex trash talk and cowardly threats, it is Clint or Clint is using the name. I do remember the old teflon years ago and it was not like this, but "teflon" was not here for a while until this week. I deal with people everyday with people like this lying, but most people have pattern of how they talk, what they say. Clint is obsessed with the sex trash talk/threats,and ends every comment with some sex trash talk. Trust me it is him or he is using the name.

Sorry, but we disagree. BIC was Margie. Same language.

Thank you, always enjoy your comments, even when we disagree, because I know your are honest and principled. There is nothing wrong with arguing and disagreeing in a rational friendly manner. But ClinTef is neither honest or principled.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 2:43PM

Oh please, Doctor WrongWhore. #1, I post here and at NRO and even a doofus like you can probably master the vagaries of the search engine. I haven't taken much time off from ripping you RINOs a new one throughout---much to your chagrin. I have no idea what Clint's schedule has been.

The "sex trash talk" is simply language you can understand, since facts, evidence, and logic has proven to be beyond you.

Moreover, it's all geared toward a terrific---ahem---payoff that any fan of a certain great man will instantly recognize:

"We know WHAT you are, W. We're simply haggling over price."

W| 4.15.12 @ 3:43PM

Keep posting, Clintef, you prove it with each post.
When are you going to tell us why Obama is a better president than Romney would be?
You have already told us that JFK was better than Nixon, Carter better than Ford, and Clinton better than Dole, and Truman bettter than Ike, Ford, and Nixon.
You know what this makes you? A lefty troll for Obama or a Moron.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 5:30PM

I have already told you that there are two advantages to an Obama 2nd term over Little Lord MittleRoy's coronation:

1. Obama is term-limited, meaning we still can get a conservative president in 2016, whereas unless Mittens manages to get himself impeached we won't even get a conservative nominee until at least 2020.

2. Your fellow RINO weak sisters have a better chance of opposing Obama's socialist dreams from his father than Mittens'.

Now, among the many, many questions you've refused to answer out of cowardice, I'll ask just three:

1. Given Romney's actual record (which you haven't bothered to read but the intelligent have), what on Earth leads you to believe he will be a better and more conservative president than Obama? http://cdn2.dailycaller.com/20.....Romney.pdf

2. When have you ever NOT voted for the Republican?

3. Given that your answer to #2 is "Never", and that several Republican candidates are plainly not conservatives, how would that make you more conservative than Republican?

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 5:41PM

Nick, I've lost track. Are you me too, or am I you?

And it's like memory lane with Margie and the multiple monikers. I got into a dustup with her about a year ago, but I don't think she actually accused me of being somebody's sock puppet or puppeteer in that one---she was too focused on the usual anti-Catholic bigotry.

BTW, Rush quoted one of my blog posts on Hurricane Katrina back on 9/12/05. Any of the non-delusional folks with Rush 24-7 can look up the audio if they want to hang DoctorWrongWhore with it (the nom d'internet was the same).

Of course, the moment they do they will be accused of being part of the Teflon Illuminati.

W| 4.15.12 @ 5:56PM

Clintef,
When are you going to stop with your perverted sex trash talk, and tell us why Obama is a better president than Romney would be? Still can't do it, sissy moron.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 8:37PM

I will repeat yet again, as W(hore) obviously can't hear over his gay porn:

"I have already told you that there are two advantages to an Obama 2nd term over Little Lord MittleRoy's coronation:

1. Obama is term-limited, meaning we still can get a conservative president in 2016, whereas unless Mittens manages to get himself impeached we won't even get a conservative nominee until at least 2020.

2. Your fellow RINO weak sisters have a better chance of opposing Obama's socialist dreams from his father than Mittens'.

Now, among the many, many questions you've refused to answer out of cowardice, I'll ask just three:

1. Given Romney's actual record (which you haven't bothered to read but the intelligent have), what on Earth leads you to believe he will be a better and more conservative president than Obama? http://cdn2.dailycaller.com/20.....Romney.pdf

2. When have you ever NOT voted for the Republican?

3. Given that your answer to #2 is "Never", and that several Republican candidates are plainly not conservatives, how would that make you more conservative than Republican?"

Now answer my questions before I have to embarrass you anymore in this thread.

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:57PM

Clintef,
Last time. I vote Republican. It is always better than voting for a Democrat. You disagree since you voted to elect Carter, Clinton, and now will vote for Obama.

Teflon93| 4.16.12 @ 10:42AM

Answer my questions, you silly little girl.

Try being a MAN.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 8:51PM

Note that Clint provided some pretty telling facts above, to which W(hore) had no response but his paranoid delusional ranting.

This is W(hore)'s typical response---and the MittBots don't best him.

Clint| 4.15.12 @ 8:44AM

That's A Lie.

But Then You Already Knew That, Liar W.

And You Also Wrote:

" W| 4.13.12 @ 10:36PM

Clint is smarter than you Tef. At least he did not vote to elect Clinton, and if he did he is smart enough to keep it quiet.
You are an idiot."

Call Bibi & Mittens.

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:41AM

Clint/Teflon
You proved after my comment that you are the same. Same trash/sex talk, same sissy threats, same blah blah.
Now go vote for Obama. Moron.
Since we know who you are there is no reason to persuade you to vote Republican since we know you helped elect Clinton and Carter and will help
Obama.
Tell me again why you hate Israel and Bibi? You do know Bibi and Romney are friends, is that why you hate Romney?
You can skip the Teflon name, Clint, Dr. Right nailed you.

Clint| 4.15.12 @ 10:50AM

That's A Lie.

You're A Goebbels Big Lie Propagandist Liar,W.

Don't Drag Me Into Your Purse Swingin' Hair Pullin' Cat Fight, Little GirlieMan Twerp, W.

Aaaand,
If You Wanna Threaten Me With Physical Violence & Make Me Legally Kick Your Ass, I'll Be At Main Street & Bridge Street In Phoenixville, By Valley Forge At 4;00 PM Today, At The Valley Forge Tea Party Rally.

Put Up Or Shut Your Pie Hole, Coward,W.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 5:32PM

You're a lot closer to Carnegie than I am, Clint. If there were any chance that coward would show up, I'd ask you to get in a couple for me.

No chance of him showing, though.

If there's one universal truth about RINOs, it's that they won't fight for anything.

Pure backstabbers.

Clint| 4.15.12 @ 7:50PM

The Little GirlieBoy Purse Swinger "W " Didn't Show Up At Our Valley Forge Tea Party Rally Today.

His Big Mouth Writes Checks His Body Can't Cash.

These Clowns Play Their Goebbels Big Lie Propaganda Game, That Everyone,Who Dares To Stand Up To Them Is Tea Party Clint.

Keep Standing Up To Them.

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:53PM

Clintef
You asked me to name place, date,time. I did. You said you could not make it. I gave you two more dates. Wed or Frida, sissy? So like a sissy you put up some place in Philly to evade the fact you chickened out.
The PhillySissy, Clintef the moron.
This is too easy, a chicken sissy who votes for Obama, Carter, and Clinton. The Trifecta.

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:56PM

Clintef,
Sissy. You asked me to name the place, time, and date. You did the same chicken BS with ConChef, Occam, and Dr Right,and probably others.
The PhillySissy.
Buzz off clown. You are a joke.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 11:50AM

You are such a delusional little woman, W(hore).

For one thing, I happen to be a gigantic fan of Bibi Netanyahu and Israel. I've been posting here for years and probably the most common theme---when not beating you RINO sissies silly----is the urgent need to end the regime in Iran for the threat it poses to the world. One common aspect of this recurring theme is my belief that Iran intends to carry out its threat to wipe Israel off the map using one of those brand-spanking new nuclear weapons---probably using a terrorist proxy for deniability---and thus carry out a second Holocaust. I've been highly critical of George W. Bush and Barack Obama for not only refusing to stop this---when we easily could have, given our army and air force is on Iran's eastern and western borders now----because I believe Israel not only has the right not be nuked but because I believe them to be a terrific ally.

Apparently, you think Clint thinks differently---he can speak for himself.

But anyone can read your incoherent dribble and notice it increasingly resembles the rantings of that drooling idiot Doctor Wrong.

In other words, W(hore), project much?

W| 4.15.12 @ 1:57PM

ClinTef,
You cannot be this stupid. With every post you confirm you are the same person.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 2:39PM

Doctor WrongWhore strikes again!

And somehow he got Clint to post while I was at Mass. This guy's a GENIUS!

W| 4.15.12 @ 3:51PM

Clintef was at Mass?
Does your priest know about your sexually perverted language and sex trash talk? He will kick you out if he knew.

Wow that is proof, Moron. I guess you want us to believe a foul mouthed, sexually obsessed nut like you goes to Mass, and if you did you don't have a cell phone to post. Hypocrite.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 5:24PM

Hahahahahaha----the conspiracy theories abound.

Let me correct yet another example of your ignorance, DoctorWrongWhore---this time on the Catholic Church.

The Catholic Church doesn't kick anyone out---they kick themselves out through formal and informal means of excommunication. There's a whole bunch of information on it in the Catechism and in Canon Law, about which I have no doubt you know absolutely nothing.

Meanwhile, there is nothing quite as funny as hearing you do your "town elders from 'Footloose'" schtick given your foul mouth and nasty disposition. I give as I get, although it's frankly hard to keep up with your sheer lunacy and inability to understand what words like "hypocrite" mean.

It is true that you are a perpetual near occasion of sin, however, which is proof that even a village idiot can drool something truthful sometimes.

Taken that PQ quiz yet, DoctorWrongWhore? Would you like me to read it to you if I promise to use smaller words?

W| 4.15.12 @ 5:58PM

Clintef,
Still need to take a test to prove you are a man and a conservative?
Here is the test, sissy moron: Who will you vote for Obama or Romney?
Let me guess, since you voted to elect Carter, Clinton, and you think Kennedy was better than Nixon, and Truman better than Ike,Ford, and Nixon, you will again vote to elect Obama, right sissy moron?

Clint| 4.15.12 @ 8:07PM

That's A Lie.

You're A Serial Liar,W.

I Voted For Bush'41 & Bush'43 & Wrote In A Protest Vote For My Brother-In-Law When The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Ran.

Carter & Clinton Are Assholes Like You,W.

Lookin' Back On History, Kennedy Was Overrated, Nixon Was The Economic Light Weight, Who Took Us Off The Gold Standard, Ike, Apparently Liked Reagan And Gave Reagan Advice, When Reagan Came To See Him In Gettysburg.

And Ron Paul Was One Of Four Congressmen,Who Endorsed Ronald Reagan Against Gerald Ford, In 1976.

W| 4.15.12 @ 11:28PM

Clintef
There you go again, Clint, responding to my questions directed to "Teflon." This is fun. Keep posting and proving who your are.

Clint| 4.15.12 @ 7:26PM

You're That Much Of A Liar & A Coward, W.

W| 4.15.12 @ 7:31PM

Clintef,
You used the wrong name, Moron, should have used Teflon since Teflon is doing the test trash talk. Losing track of what name to use? Give it up, moron.
Explain why Obama is a better president than Romney would be?

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 8:36PM

I repeat, again, for the sake of this insufferable lying little pansy whose teeth I will be happy to rearrange just as soon as he puts them in:

I have already told you that there are two advantages to an Obama 2nd term over Little Lord MittleRoy's coronation:

1. Obama is term-limited, meaning we still can get a conservative president in 2016, whereas unless Mittens manages to get himself impeached we won't even get a conservative nominee until at least 2020.

2. Your fellow RINO weak sisters have a better chance of opposing Obama's socialist dreams from his father than Mittens'.

Now, among the many, many questions you've refused to answer out of cowardice, I'll ask just three:

1. Given Romney's actual record (which you haven't bothered to read but the intelligent have), what on Earth leads you to believe he will be a better and more conservative president than Obama? http://cdn2.dailycaller.com/20.....Romney.pdf

2. When have you ever NOT voted for the Republican?

3. Given that your answer to #2 is "Never", and that several Republican candidates are plainly not conservatives, how would that make you more conservative than Republican?

Now answer my questions, you swishy little loser.

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:44PM

Clintef
More trash talk from the sissy who chickens out every time he is called out. You chickened out for Monday, and will I see you on Wed or Friday, sissy.
Go vote for Obama, moron. You have nothing to contribute if you believe Obama is a better president.
I told you, Idiot, that I vote Republican. I will tell you in person also, sissy, if you show up. Wear the Obama shirt, Clinton hat, and Carter button.

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:49PM

Hey idiot, you will note I asked "Clint" to explain why Obam is a better president than Romney would be, and you answsered as "Teflon."
You frustrated and having problems posting under the right name?

This is too easy Cintef. You are a moron. Which you just proved again responding to a question pur to Clint and saying Obama is a better president than Romney would be.
Maybe you want to start over with a new name and skip the trash talk.

Teflon93| 4.16.12 @ 10:41AM

You've asked me any number of times, you lying douchebag. I paste them in multiple places so everyone can see what a liar you are when you claim I haven't answered.

Now answer my questions before I upset OT by describing your lack of masculine virtue in detail.

Occam's Tool| 4.16.12 @ 3:05AM

Tef: I think Romney will be better because I honestly and urgently believe that Obama is an actual traitor, whose closest friends are terrorists, and whose pastor supported terrorists and was a traitor.

In short, I think Romney is within the normal range of American politicians, even though he is NOT Santorum, while I believe that Obama is something hideous. Of course, no one from Massachusetts should be President, but 4 more years of Obama could have mushroom clouds over Tel-Aviv and Jerusalem.

I don't think you are Clint, because his stench is obvious, and you write well reasoned notes. However, you underestimate Obama's evil, in my opinion.

I hope this was respectful enough. Take care.

Teflon93| 4.16.12 @ 10:51AM

Well, it would be hard to underestimate given I don't think Obama's evil. Bill and Hillary tried the same thing he did, Newt stopped them, then Romney resurrected it. Were Obama evil, I'm afraid Mittens would have to be pretty close to evil himself given his record.

Obama is certainly coldblooded---his Born Alive Infant Protection act vote shows that---but Romney also believes that a person's right to live depends on another person's convenience, as when he issued an executive order mandating Catholic hospitals participate in abortion.

There are simply too many parallels between the two to put one in a white hat and one in a black.

Patty50 | 4.14.12 @ 9:46PM

Lehman Brothers doesn't exist anymore ...is this a current list of donors?

Clint| 4.15.12 @ 9:11AM

Updated 2012 Romney Campaign Donors :

Goldman Sachs $535,680
JPMorgan Chase & Co $375,650
Morgan Stanley $323,800
Credit Suisse Group $299,160
Citigroup Inc $282,765
Bank of America $277,850
Kirkland & Ellis $222,702
Barclays $221,650
PricewaterhouseCoopers $191,500
HIG Capital $188,500
Blackstone Group $178,800
Wells Fargo $163,200
UBS AG $156,550
Bain Capital $154,000
EMC Corp $128,300
Citadel Investment Group $122,125
Elliott Management $121,000
Bain & Co $113,300
Sullivan & Cromwell $107,150
The Villages $97,500

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 5:48PM

The banking industry donations are no surprise---Dodd-Frank is killing our industry.

Keep an eye on some of those, though---a number have become adjuncts of the Democrat Party, so I'd bet the donations to Romney aren't coming from the corner offices for some of the NY banks.

somnolence| 4.14.12 @ 2:50PM

The top Romney donors are cool with me!!! As Coolidge said, "the business of America is business". Sorry, wimps, try something effective.

Clint| 4.15.12 @ 10:08AM

Big Government Ruling Elites' Crony Capitalism Ain't Good Business For Real Conservatives.

Call Bibi & Mittens' Wimpette Flunkie Stooge, Somenonsense.

somnolence| 4.14.12 @ 2:53PM

Obama's own internal White Polling tells him he's doomed. Rush has trumpeted this more than once. An incumbent President is on thin ice when his popularity among women has dropped from 79% to 49%, and that is just one demographic. But keep fantasizing about Ron Paul or Gingrich being the nominee before the guys in the white coats come for you all.

somnolence| 4.14.12 @ 2:55PM

Oh, that permanent minority has Boehner in the driver's seat, strategic NOT genius. The Tea Party hasn't won one damn thing without the help of the rest of the GOP. Not one.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 3:18PM

56 seats. Thanks to the Tea Party.

There isn't a conservative alive who voted for milquetoasts like Boehner on behalf of RINOs like you.

somnolence| 4.14.12 @ 2:59PM

Bibi has more validity of being a man in the best caricature of the word than your lascivious Paul worshipping kneel ever would, Clint. All hail Zionism and its glorious quest.

Clint| 4.15.12 @ 10:14AM

There It Is Again.

This Is The United States Of America.

Now, Call Your Mancrush, Bibi & Tell Him The Little Israel Tail Doesn't Wag The American Big Dog.

Occam's Tool| 4.16.12 @ 3:12AM

Maybe it should, given that Bibi is much more of a man than O, and has American interests much more in mind than O.

RCV| 4.16.12 @ 1:24PM

Sorry, Occam, but Bibi has no interests in view other than Israel's, nor should he. And as for Romney, I'm glad you don't try to oversell him as a conservative. He has no core principles at all, and will bend to whatever wind is blowing at the time. (Which is why I, as a Democrat, could tolerate him as President over Santorum, who is a social conservative but a statist Republican.

Bill| 4.14.12 @ 3:21PM

Why I support Gov. Chris Christie for the VP:
1. Balanced the budget
2. Cut taxes, cut regulations
3. Empowered the private sector
4. Vetoed the same sex marriage bill
5. Vowed an unwavering support for our friends
in Israel (Recently, Gov. Christie traveled Israel and visited the Golan Heights, where hundreds of IDF soldiers were murdered by the Syrian Army in 1973, and he reinstated his support for Israel).
6. He has charisma, courage, vision to fix the economy and get America back on track.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 3:43PM

Bill-

Why I don't support Chris Christie, period (in no particular order):

1. Support for cap n trade
2. Support for socialized medicine
3. Opposition to enforcing immigration laws
4. Support for the Occupy movement
5. Opposition to the Tea Party movement
6. Support for gun control
7. Weak on Islamofascism
8. Campaigned for RINO Mike Castle
9. Complete lack of involvement with conservative movement and media

Basically, he's a fat, rude Mitt Romney---which makes him a terrible VP candidate.

That said, I like his fiscal discipline, his fearlessness in taken on labor unions, and his initial efforts to ease up red tape. In that regard, he's far and away Romney's superior and quite a ways to his right.

I think Christie also should get credit for cleaning up NJ's cesspool of corruption, which Bill doesn't mention above but which is probably the single biggest difference in the state from the Corzine/Lautenberg/Torch days.

Bill| 4.14.12 @ 4:49PM

Teflon93-
I thank your informative and thoughtful comments.
The GOP voters ditched Rick Perry because of his debate gaffe, and now we've to deal with Romney, or a possible Obama regime for 4 more years. Chris Christie is just another Rick Perry, but the difference is that Christie, unlike Rick perry, Christie is articulate and governing a "Blue" state like NJ without compromising his fiscal and social conservativeness. Everyday, Gov. Christie has to deal with the Democratic machine and those union thugs and their relentless attacks on him and his administration. If we ditch Christie, like Rick Perry, we then wind up with Jo Biden. Christie is NOT perfect, but he can deliver NJ for GOP, and help defeat Obama. My second VP choice will be Sen. Kelly Ayotte because she is an articulate and charismatic fiscal senator from NH, and she can energize the women votes. So, my VP choices:
1st choice: Chris Christie
2nd choice: Kelly Ayotte
You bet! we're winning this Fall.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 4:55PM

I don't know enough about Ayotte to comment but without the South Romney doesn't have a chance. There's also the demographic fact that the Northeast is bleeding people and electoral college votes, so NJ has the same EC total now as NC, but writing off NC also means VA and possibly MO.

You're an optimist---but if Romney does follow that advice I think the Tea Party will be the beneficiary.

I think Perry's back unfortunately ended his chances for the White House. He was by no means perfectly conservative but far moreso than Romney.

Bill| 4.14.12 @ 5:47PM

Kelly Ayotte was the former AG of NH, who was endorsed by Sarah Palin when she ran for her senate seat, and eventually she succeeded her GOP predecessor Sen. Gregg. She is a fiscal hawk and worked with other great senators like Sen. Rand Paul, Sen Mike Lee, Sen. DeMint, etc. GOP lacks enthusiasm among the women voters, and Sen. Ayotte can fill that void. She is very articulate and charismatic, and can rally the women voters behind Romney.
GOP lacks leadership in the South, Bobby jindal, Nikki Haley, Rick Perry, and Marco Rubio already declined.
In NC, GOP doesn't have any political figure, although recently NC is trending Red.
I like Bob McDonald of VA, and he will be my 3rd choice for VP.
1st: Chris Christie
2nd: Kelly Ayotte
3rd: Bob McDonald.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 7:06PM

Bill, your Northeastern myopia is showing. The party's dead up there.

In NC, we have Sue Myrick, Pat McCrory, and Richard Burr, as well as a guy who was the last conservative Democrat until he crossed the aisle a couple of years ago named Jim Pendergraph. He's the only Democrat my wife voted for in 2008; I came within a whisker of doing so myself.

The Northeast is a lost cause. Look west and south, young man.

somnolence| 4.14.12 @ 3:53PM

Yeah, right, Freddie Thompson really ran an effective conservative campaign in 2008. Romney pinned his ears back all through the primary til the poor boy is now doing ads these days for mortgage refinance. Best laugh I've had all day. BTW I support Richard Mourdoch over Richard Lugar in the Indiana primary, so my legitimacy as a RINO (in your definition) is in doubt with that vote for sure. Lugar needs to go yesterday.

Teflon93| 4.14.12 @ 4:37PM

How's President McCain doing these days?

How about President Dole?

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:40PM

Clintef,
You voted to elect Clinton over Dole, sissy moron.

Tim| 4.14.12 @ 10:29PM

What will happen if Obama Care is struck Down
and come september Obama runs Mega Adds aasuring people that his next try at Health Care reform will be to model it after Romney Care so as to avoid it being thrown out in Court.

What does Romney do in the face of that
Monster Problem?

And the real concern is that is exactly what will happen if its struck down.

somnolence| 4.14.12 @ 11:36PM

What does Romney do? He in turn runs MEGA ads in reply pointing out numerical and insured differences between state mandates and federal mandates, making fun of Professor Obama's supposed command of the law. Some of you people are trying to hard to be comedians. Ann Coulter has this whole thing right; just wait and see as we have six months for the pretender in chief to self immolate.

Clint| 4.15.12 @ 9:22AM

Now, The Rest Of The Story.

" Half a decade into its health reform experiment, Massachusetts is flailing under unsustainable health costs. Absent change, the Bay State offers a preview of what the rest of the country has to look forward to."

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 2:38PM

Now, Clint, how'd you manage to post that while I was at Mass?

You'll be giving Doctor WrongWhore fits.

W| 4.15.12 @ 3:53PM

Clintef,
Talking to yourself again, Moron.
Give it up, clown, everyone knows you.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 5:18PM

And the people who do have already corrected you, Doctor WrongWhore.

Or are they me too?

I do lose count listening to you...

W| 4.15.12 @ 6:02PM

Clintef,
You count as one person, sissy moron.
You gave yourself away, idiot,with your sex trash talk and sissy threats. I don't use that language and you started witht that language because you cannot answer a simple question: Why is Obama a better president than Romney would be?
Still waiting for the answer, moron. Skip the perverted sex talk and answer the question.

Clint| 4.15.12 @ 8:13PM

Neither BibiBot You W, Nor The Alinskiite Obama, Nor RINO-CINO Romney Are Real Conservatives.

All Three Of You Are Asshats.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 8:33PM

I've answered it any number of times now, you complete and utter douchebag, and I would happily pound it into your empty skull were you only a man.

I repeat, just to show what an utter liar you are:

"I have already told you that there are two advantages to an Obama 2nd term over Little Lord MittleRoy's coronation:

1. Obama is term-limited, meaning we still can get a conservative president in 2016, whereas unless Mittens manages to get himself impeached we won't even get a conservative nominee until at least 2020.

2. Your fellow RINO weak sisters have a better chance of opposing Obama's socialist dreams from his father than Mittens'.

Now, among the many, many questions you've refused to answer out of cowardice, I'll ask just three:

1. Given Romney's actual record (which you haven't bothered to read but the intelligent have), what on Earth leads you to believe he will be a better and more conservative president than Obama? http://cdn2.dailycaller.com/20.....Romney.pdf

2. When have you ever NOT voted for the Republican?

3. Given that your answer to #2 is "Never", and that several Republican candidates are plainly not conservatives, how would that make you more conservative than Republican?"

Now answer my questions, you little sissy.

W| 4.15.12 @ 9:38PM

Clintef
So you prefer Obama and will vote for Obama. Just say it in one sentence, sissy Moron.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 9:49PM

Put down the bottle, you rummy little pansy.

As I've said, oh, I dunno, a couple of hundred times now, I'm not voting the top of the ticket. I may vote the downticket, but frankly you MittBot RINO drones are making me believe that the GOP is corrupt and stupid stem-to-stern. I do have to vote for a ballot initiative but it may be a very empty ballot at this rate.

Now go to a meeting before your neighbors turn you in again.

Rick ROCk| 4.14.12 @ 11:49PM

From your keypad to God's ears. It makes sense to me. It's what made Reagan so loveable, his optimism, his refusal to be nasty. His truth. Despite my disagreement with many of Romney's variable positions, he's a fine man. Obama is a snake.

ansonheath| 4.15.12 @ 3:37PM

"There is a nasty side to Obama that is eventually going to come out during this campaign. For him it is all very, very personal." Eventually? You just noticed this, Mr. Tucker? I think the American public is way ahead of most of our pundits. All Romney needs to do is ask: Do we keep on heading over the cliff or is it time to get real?
If America decides to keep heading for the cliff, Mr. Nice Guy will not be able to stop it. Mr.Reality might!!

somnolence| 4.15.12 @ 4:15PM

No, Clint, the simple fact is that many of us choose Zionism as a way to crush the insidious onslaught of Islam and ensure democracy in the Mideast, but your infantile, eggshell mind(and you're not by yourself, btw) can't comprehend it. I'll side with Bibi and the legacy left by Herzl and Weizmann anytime over the Nazi sympathizers, the Muslim Brotherhood and their allies.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 5:45PM

Who knew somnolence had a nasty streak, eh, Clint?

Zionism isn't synonymous with being pro-Israeli, though. I happen to both believe that Israelis have a right to a homeland, that Israel is it (I actually believe they should have held onto their gains from the various wars fought with the Arabs as Israel ought to be defensible), and that Israel is by far our greatest ally in the Middle East, so I happen to be both.

But not everyone is.

W| 4.15.12 @ 6:05PM

Clintef,
Are you really this stupid? Why are you attacking Som? Let me explain, moron, since you are an idiot. If you really were not Clint you would agree with Som and not attack him. Are you losing track of what to say under each name?

Clint| 4.15.12 @ 8:22PM

Dr.Ron Paul,
“Our military’s purpose is to defend our country, not to police the
Middle East.

“As the President prepares to send even more support to Egypt, we should
be reminded that it was our foreign aid that helped Mubarak retain power
to repress his people in the first place. Now we have to deal with the
consequences of those decisions, yet we keep repeating the same mistakes.

“I am not the only one who can see the absurdities of our foreign
policy. We give $3 billion to Israel and $12 billion to her enemies.
Most Americans know that makes no sense.

“We need to come to our senses, trade with our friends in the Middle
East (both Arab and Israeli), clean up our own economic mess so we set a
good example, and allow them to work out their own conflicts.”

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 8:30PM

Hooked on Phonics didn't work for W(hore).

"your infantile, eggshell mind(and you're not by yourself, btw) can't comprehend " = nasty. Now, obviously you're immune to that, since in the complete absence of facts or argument assertions of your own genius are the ne plus ultra for you---use Google's translator, fool---but simple reading comprehension at a 5th grade level ought really to suffice.

As for the rest, I agree with som on Israel but caution that Zionism isn't synonymous with pro-Israeli for the simple reason that's it's not, although she very much implies it is.

For example. there are a number of anti-Israeli Zionists who hold that the Jewish homeland should have been carved out of Germany. Zionists yes, pro-Israeli, no.

I would say any idiot could see that but there you go being the exception....

Occam's Tool| 4.16.12 @ 3:08AM

Teflon: yeah, but those guys are in the distinct minority.

But Clint hates Israel and has a bizarre sexual fascination with Bibi.

Nonetheless, I think you underestimate JUST how evil Obama is.

Occam's Tool| 4.16.12 @ 3:11AM

And, by the way, can we please be a little more civil here? Jack and Clint are bizarroids that deserve all that they get, but I LIKE Dr. R, W, etc., and I think you might be a decent sort, too, Teflon, even if I disagree with you. A bit of kindness here: we are facing a monster in November.

Teflon93| 4.16.12 @ 8:21AM

OT, being in a distinct minority doesn't mean they don't exist and doesn't make the terms synonymous---which would only be the case if one couldn't possibly be one without the other, capish? "Zionist" is a pretty loaded term that's used as invective by anti-Semites and by Islamofascists; doesn't do our side any good to use it in their sense anyway.

You'll look in vain for kindness---much less civility---from those folks. The "Doctor" has been around here for years and earned a reputation for a complete inability to bring fact and argument to the debate and as you've seen in this thread W has built the same rep in a much shorter period of time. Neither Clint nor I---however much you disagree with each---tend to go for the jugular personally, but have in this instance because these trolls needed the beatdown.

That said, it is clearly an absolutely worthless endeavor to do so as they learn precisely nothing, have disgraced themselves and discredited those who hold their views again and again, and there is nothing but downside for the rest of us in pounding away at them, I agree.

Teflon93| 4.16.12 @ 10:10AM

I also don't think Obama is evil. He is a red diaper baby likely with narcissistic personality disorder. But his difference from Bill Clinton is of degree and not kind---as is his difference from Mitt Romney.

Romney has demonstrated time and again that he has no principle save ambition and a sociopathic ability to publicly schmooze up to his fellow candidates while engaging in the most dirty and underhanded means to eliminate them from contention in private. I fail to see how he will somehow improve when he gets the power he craves; people like him never do.

Thus the difference between Obama and Romney is in degree and not in kind---and the difference in degree is not that large.

Tom| 4.16.12 @ 9:08AM

I will NOT be "civil" to the likes of W(hore) and Dr. WRONG, as they have not been in the least bit "civil" to me and others who DARE to express dissent over their insistence we have some sort of moral obligation to give our unconditional obedience to the dictates of the Republican Establishment, and to vote for their politicians regardless of how anti-conservative they may be.

Teflon93| 4.16.12 @ 10:39AM

Well you see, Tom, then you're just voting for Obama and responsible for his election, as opposed to a) the GOP Establishment which has forced a RINO down our throats twice in a row and conspired to do anything possible to prevent conservatives from cementing the enormous 2010 Tea Party gains, b) self-proclaimed conservatives who upon closer examination cannot argue from conservative principles, hewing to none, and simply vote blindly Republican each election; c) RINOs who stumped for McCain last time then voted for "historic" Obama and came back this time with the same old schtick and playbook for Romney; d) all the people who actually vote FOR Obama.

Our culpability is the highest according to them despite literally doing the least to advance Obama's cause---a cause being forwarded now by both political parties. We are certainly taking nonstop insults from them----something they don't reserve for any of the groups above for fear of "alienating" them.

But America is free yet and no one has a right to my vote but me.

smokedaddy| 4.15.12 @ 4:25PM

Yeah, Tucker's got this nailed. I have to say that my concern with Romney has a lot more to do with how he'll govern & lead (or fail to) than with whether he'll run an effective campaign. If ACA gets taken off the table by the Supremes, that might even have me feeling good about a Romney administration. In the meantime, Mitt should feel free to calmly, rationally, & sweetly call out this president for what he is, a stealth socialist who is NOT, after all, a nice guy.

somnolence| 4.15.12 @ 5:28PM

The top 3 viable VP choices in my book are as follows: (1)Allen West (2) Marco Rubio (3) Rob Portman. Christie only goes over well in the Northeast, and that is a lost cause for the most part anyway.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 5:47PM

Okay, now I'm intrigued, somnolence.

Given your anti-Tea Party screeds, why is Allen West your top choice? The FL RINOs are trying to redistrict him out of the House, aren't they?

I would agree with your top pick as the single smartest pick Romney could possibly make, but I obviously don't think he'd ever make it.

Mike| 4.15.12 @ 6:31PM

All Romney has to do is let his minions do the dirty work for him. After what they did to Gingrich and Santorum who can doubt they have the money and the expertise.

What Romney has to focus on is how not to be a doofus.

David| 4.15.12 @ 8:56PM

Rubio was not born to parents who were citizens at the time of his birth. They became citizens when he was 4, so I believe that disqualifies him.

It should also disqualify Bam Bam who daddy was a Kenyan citizen.

David| 4.15.12 @ 9:09PM

Teflon, I just checked in after more than 24 hours, and I can't believe you are still repeating the same crap.

Sure Tef, if Bam Bam wins now, we can get a conservative in 2016.

Please acknowledge that as bad as Romney is, he is certainly not as bad as Bam Bam. NOw, if Romney disappoints as we expect him to, we CAN STILL get a conservative to run against him in 2012.

The Courts man, the Courts. Presidents are given wide latitude with their appointments. The repubs and conservatives will have very little control over the process with Bam Bam's nominations.

The repubs and conservatives will have a lot - a whole f_cking bunch of control - over Romney's nominees because WE, the voters who are FINALLY paying attention - will insist on it.

You are a friendly fellow as much as I have known, BUT your endless crap about giving Bam Bam a 2nd term is simply ridiculous.

Teflon93| 4.15.12 @ 9:37PM

David----explain to me how Romney's records on judicial picks gives you such confidence.

But first, refresh your memory about his picks: