National Lampoon’s Animal House, a well-known 1978
movie celebrating college hedonism appears quite ancient these
days. For instance, the idea of a Dean of Students attempting to
control the exploits of the “animals” when it comes to sexual
activity remains a historical artifact now found only on certain
religious campuses. Today, rampant sexual activity makes no
difference to college administrators as long as it does not create
some sort of public relations or legal challenge for the
university.
Ironically, administrators are now concerned about a whole new
group with the exact opposite “problem.” There still exist on
college campuses some student groups that believe the outlandish
and old-fashioned idea that students should be held to
theologically informed standards, including sexual standards.
Instead of relying upon administrators, these students think their
group should supervise itself when it comes to these standards and
elect only leaders who share their views. Of course, they also
recognize they could and should not expect the rest of the
university to have those same moral and theological scruples.
Increasingly, though, administrators at universities such as
Vanderbilt and various branches of the University of North Carolina
system find the idea of student groups with theological standards,
especially those related to moral standards about sexual behavior,
repugnant. As a result, they’re exerting control over these groups
by mandating that they loosen up and experience a bit more sexual
freedom. In other words, instead of trying to reform the old
hedonistic animal house, university administrators now want to
force every student group to join the “fun.”
To achieve this end, administrators are requiring or considering
“all comers policies.” These policies require student groups to get
rid of any theological or moral membership standards they may have
for officers or students who belong to the group. In other words,
they want to force Christian religious groups to quit requiring any
theological and moral beliefs for members or officers. Instead, as
the Vanderbilt University provost declared to a group of concerned
religious students, “What I’m going to challenge you to do [is] to
be open to a member that doesn’t share your faith beliefs who could
be a wonderful member… maybe even a leader.” In his view, we need
to have Christian student groups be open to having atheist leaders
with different moral standards.
One could think of this approach as an odd twist on what the
Puritans tried when they caught someone in adultery. Instead of
giving the offending woman a scarlet A for punishment,
administrators may now give every student group a scarlet
A (for All comers policy] to make sure they do not have
any religiously based sexual or theological boundaries. Failing to
abide by the policy means the offending groups will be alienated
and isolated from the community. Nathaniel Hawthorne would have
been impressed.
The fact that these student groups’ standards are rooted in
sacred beliefs proves little more than a nuisance for these
administrators. As the same Vanderbilt administrator told a group
of students concerned about the administration’s policy, “We don’t
want to have personal religious views intrude on good
decision-making on this campus.”
The administrators apparently don’t believe democratic ideals
such as freedom of religion, speech, or assembly apply to this case
either. These minority groups, administrators believe, need to be
forced to embrace the administration’s view of diversity and sexual
freedom. Moreover, the good chance that this policy will reduce the
actual diversity and freedom of student groups as a whole appears
not to be a problem. For example, at Vanderbilt groups such as
Vanderbilt Catholic, the Graduate Christian Fellowship, and
Intervarsity will all likely leave campus this coming year due to
the university’s discriminatory non-discrimination policy.
Apparently, these administrators really do not want diversity if it
includes religious groups with theological standards.
The famous educational philosopher, John Dewey used to say,
“Education is not preparation for life, it is life itself.” For
Dewey the best education initiates students into the same practices
we use in our common life together. In this respect these
universities are initiating students into a political life similar
to that of a communist state like China, where religious groups in
society are denied the freedom to choose their own leaders and the
beliefs of those leaders. As in China, covert dorm churches and
secret religious fellowships will probably spring up on these
campuses. Of course, members will be forced to hide from the prying
eyes of administrators bent on sniffing out unsanctioned university
activities. Welcome to the contemporary university where the old
“animals” control the campus and religious groups are the new
disruptive beasts.
Ken (Old Texican)| 4.12.12 @ 7:56AM
Perry,
well spoken!
I am very proud of my Baylor Chrstian education and the culture there supporting it.
Keep up the great work.
Occam's Tool| 4.12.12 @ 8:48PM
Ken, Baylor was good---but their current expert on Jewish studies is pro-Palestinian. And TCU has gone down the poop shoot too.
Appleby| 4.12.12 @ 8:04AM
Ditto -- I got a good Christian education at my little Bible College, Tusculum "University" as it styles itself now, in Davy Crockett Station, Tennessee. There are still plenty of schools that do not worship the male sex organ and would rather turn out to help an elderly neighbour fix up his home than join in a beer-soaked riot and set fire to cars, furniture and other people's property as happens here way more often than it did even in the Sixties.
It may actually be good for Christians to be forced to "Choose ye this day" as Joshua put it in the Book of Exodus, "whom you will serve." The sooner The Kids realize that Christianity isn't a suit they put on and take off once a week, but is in fact their skin and bones and blood, the sooner the ship will begin to turn and the more likely it is to avoid the rocks.
LindaF | 4.12.12 @ 11:31AM
That's a good way to put it. I'm afraid that we are all being forced to choose. I'm afraid, because I know that it will be difficult, cause us to lose friendships, and may well jeopardize our jobs.
That just shows you that I really am a coward.
Not unlike many in the Faith, who acted cravenly until that last minute.
Layne S| 4.12.12 @ 4:18PM
We all have fear; that's why the Lord said so many times to His people, "Do not be afraid." He knows how we struggle. But He has overcome. Take courage!
DRA2010| 4.16.12 @ 9:17PM
What I don't understand is that when one of these administrators interferes w/students' rights to assemble with whom they please, why should it be the STUDENT GROUP that has to leave?
If Limbaugh can be forced to retract his statements by pressuring his advertisers, I would think these student groups could do the same by pressuring the college's Board of Directors. They don't live in a vacuum, and are just as likely to burn any administrator that triggered that much uproar.
John Daniel| 4.12.12 @ 8:17AM
This sort of squinting towards morality stands in the way of LGTBQ and other trendy initiatives, and must be supressed!
Darin| 4.12.12 @ 8:23AM
I hope this was intended as sarcasm because the LGTBQ crowd (or whatever they call themselves) are among the most hateful, malicious, intolerant groups you'll find.
John Daniel| 4.12.12 @ 10:01AM
They are loving, benevolent and tolerant so long as you fully endorse their complete agenda; otherwise, you're correct.
One if by land...| 4.12.12 @ 3:47PM
Hilarious!!!
D| 4.12.12 @ 11:22AM
Administrators are concerned about "religious" groups slapping down gays. So-called religious groups can be quite hateful in their primitive, destructive beliefs.
Gay students will no longer accept second-class status at universities, and they are letting this be known loud and clear. Bravo to them!
College students, who happen to be gay, have experienced more abuse throughout high school than you readers can imagine, and they will not tolerate it at college.
I, for one, am all for the censoring of the anti-gay hate speech coming from religious campus groups, be they Christian, Jewish, or Muslim.
Naturally, you AmSpec troglodytes are all for suppressing the rights of gays. And I suspect that if Mr. Glanzer had served under Hitler's glorious reign, he would have volunteered to herd the undesirable homosexuals to the trainyards to board the cattle cars for Auschwitz.
LindaF | 4.12.12 @ 11:33AM
So, gays must be "affirmed" and permitted to express the essence of their very selves, to one and all, without being criticized, either openly, or implicitly.
If the price of that affirmation is to suppress Christian beliefs, and any expression of them, well, what can you say?
No biggy.
Ken (Old Texican)| 4.12.12 @ 11:33AM
Hey D,
My Christian friends don't spew hate speech, nor have I. We just feel sorry that some folks do things that are hurtful...or smell funny....and transmit aids.
Herb| 4.12.12 @ 11:47AM
Wow! A manifesto from the Lavender Gaystapo.
"Fear us, you breeders."
Henry Calvin| 4.12.12 @ 11:48AM
D, show us a link to ANY Christian Campus Faith Group Hate speech. Since, you cannot, know that while we feel sorrow for your life style choice, we don't want you dictating terms for our life style choice.
P.S. and a hate speech is not one calling for our group to be self-determining!
TrueBlue | 4.12.12 @ 1:22PM
The majority of that "hate speech" comes from non-religious groups and individuals. Also, given that gays consider someone saying, "I don't agree with your lifestyle" as hate speech they need to stop whining about it so much and grow a thicker skin like the rest of society.
I have plenty of gay friends, and they know I don't agree with that choice in their lives, but at the same time they don't agree with my choice of religion. None of us bash each other for those choices though, and neither should you be bashing the religious groups while also calling for them to be tolerant of your own.
By the way, so-called gay rights groups can be quite hateful in their primitive, destructive beliefs.
Gary| 4.12.12 @ 2:37PM
Hitler? Come on man? It's you libs who are indifferent to human life in worshiping at the altar of abortion. Hitler was a vegan too. Because you don't have the same values, Christians are ignorant? It is you who are arrogant, bigoted, and hateful. As to gays, are they really an oppressed people? Give me a break! This obsession with cow towing to gays is now a fetish, a pandering self satisfied exercise in moral superiority which you accuse believers of. How about censoring anti Christian speech which is more prevalent than anti gay speech? You'd fit right in with Hitler with your advocacy of censorship. YOU are the authoritarian who wants to dictate what people believe and using government and institutions to enforce it. Grow up.
10%| 4.12.12 @ 3:27PM
There are many gay Christian groups on campuses today.
"GCN at college" is networking all the gay campus groups, including the gay Christian groups.
We're gay. We're here to stay. And we will have our way.
We'll have our way whether you like it or not.
albert constantine jr.| 4.12.12 @ 4:07PM
"We're gay. We're here to stay. And we will have our way."
You got my attention, don’t you know it
I sometimes think myself a poet
And I’ve now read your little chant
And heard you spew your protest rant
Of Christian gays and campus networks
To force inclusion and to get perks
But I have got a message for ya
It wasn’t us Who smote Gomorrah
No AmSpec Blogger post can edit
For it is God who gets the credit
10%| 4.12.12 @ 5:14PM
God gets the credit?
Sure! If you say so.
He made most of us genetically, emotionally, and sexually attracted to the opposite sex, just as he made some of us genetically, emotionally, and sexually attracted to the same sex.
So let go of your hate, and give God the glory, Mr. Constantine!
D| 4.12.12 @ 5:18PM
Great point, 10%.
No young person chooses to be gay. It is not a choice. It is genetically predetermined.
Why would a young person choose to be a member of a hated minority? Why?
Some people just have to hate; it's in their hearts.
H. B. frm Indianapolis| 4.12.12 @ 5:25PM
My wife and I have three sons. The middle one is 18 and is gay. We love him just as much as our other sons, and I will not sit here and tolerate these hateful remarks against gays.
I know my son and his friends, and they are fine, intelligent, successful young men.
By the way, studies have shown that when there are three sons, the middle son is often gay. Look it up on Google search. My wife and I heard this, and several studies support it.
AhiaGuy| 4.12.12 @ 6:07PM
"Why would a young person choose to be a member of a hated minority? Why?"
Feeble argument.
One might just as easily say, "Why would someone choose to be Jewish and suffer all that anti-semitic persecution?'"
Or "why would someone choose to have unsafe sex and suffer STDs?"
Just because someone suffers the consequences of their behavior, doesn't necessarily mean that they haven't chosen that behavior.
Despite pop media assertions, scientific inquiry hasn't yet determined whether homosexual orientation is behavioral or genetic. Even if one is "born" homosexual or heterosexual, one can still choose whether to act on those inclinations.
H. B. frm Indianapolis| 4.12.12 @ 7:15PM
Since you are apparently heterosexual, why don't you act on your inclination by never loving a woman or marrying one or having sex with one.
Damn! Some of you haters are so twisted that you cannot be reasoned with.
Just go ahead and hate, hate, hate. Perhaps that hate will trigger your cells to start mutating.
Anthony| 4.12.12 @ 10:03PM
A person might choose to be part of a protected group because he cannot control his sexual impulses. Self control is all it takes to overcome homosexuality. Try prayer, maybe the Holy Rosary. Jesus loves you despite your sinful nature and waits patiently, with open arms, to save you from your sinful desires.
albert constantine jr.| 4.12.12 @ 7:38PM
10%;
albert constantine jr.| 4.12.12 @ 7:46PM
10;
I have no "hate" for homosexuals, despite my disagreement that God "made" you the way you are. Those who covet, steal, murder and commit adultery were all "made" that way as well, but chose to engage in that behavior as part of their free will.
I do recall from my limited study of the Bible that in Leviticus, God "hates" when a man lies down with a man. I leave His Judgment to Him.
I do, however, have disdain for bad chanting rhymes, and responded to that part of your post with my own doggerel.
Occam's Tool| 4.12.12 @ 8:51PM
I also love the pro-Palestinian gays, too.
albert constantine jr.| 4.12.12 @ 9:13PM
Apparently they have not studied what awaits under sharia.
StainlessCoder| 4.16.12 @ 5:53PM
To all the homosexualistitutes: homosexualism is under 1% among males, and under 0.5% among females. If it were genetic, then your religion of evolution would demand it must disappear (and that we seek to eliminate it as the genetic flaw that it must by definition be), since practically no homosexualists reproduce, and among the few who in the last few decades have, their offspring are rarely homosexualist themselves when their mothers go to the modern facilities to find a man's gamete for use in reproducing, or their father hires a woman to bear the child his gametes and her "egg" produced.
You can lie to yourselves all you like, but homosexual perversion is a mental illness, can and has verifiably been cured in many cases, and their perverse actions should properly be prosecuted. Male homosexualists are the primary vector for deadly disease in Western Civilization for the last 40-some years, and continued cowardice in the face of these facts will eventuate the way it always has before, with the collapse of our civilization.
By the way, Mr. Glanzer should be ashamed to quote the socialist John Dewey, whose conspiracy to turn Americans socialist is at the heart of the destruction of education in the United States.
One if by land...| 4.12.12 @ 4:04PM
Well said D! I am assuming "D" stands for disgusting or deranged. I think it stands for Doomed. Gay has no place anywhere and science, as int he kind that comes from universities, even ones with gay students, has found that homosexuality is a mental condition that falls into the same group that houses pedophilia. So do you know say that pedophiles should be allowed into our university system to mingle with our nations young? If thats the case then I'm sure you wouldn't mind they stay at your house with your children and explain to those same children how they are in fact normal and simply victims of society. In fact, just buy them bunk beds, it's only the future of your youth. Please, keep in mind these are your words and thoughts and based on scientific evidence, not religion. Well, since pedophilies are now ok, is it right to eliminate rapists, murderers and arsonists? If you say so. Silly religious people, with your morals and standards and decency and faith and family values and all those other out of date , primitive things.
One if by land...| 4.12.12 @ 4:05PM
now say* I type fast and without skill....or skillz for some of our other readers.
Occam's Tool| 4.12.12 @ 8:49PM
D: review Bonhoeffer.
ebonystone| 4.12.12 @ 10:05PM
Speaking of the gay groups on campus, do Vanderbilt and UNC insist that they welcome "straights" ? The universities should; after all "a member that doesn't share your ... beliefs who could be a wonderful member… maybe even a leader."
The same goes for other student groups, such as a Moslem society; shouldn't they be pressured into accepting Jews, Hindus, atheists, etc., all of whom could be "wonderful members".
And the Black student clubs should be made to accept Latino, Oriental, and White members.
Prester John| 4.12.12 @ 8:28AM
I wonder how all the Muslim student groups will react to these policies?
Or are they going to be exempt?
Herb| 4.12.12 @ 8:40AM
The Muslim Students Association is not to be trifled with. Tell them that they must allow a Christian or Jewish student to head a campus MSA chapter, and violence will follow. Guaranteed, praise Allah!
cuban pete| 4.12.12 @ 10:04AM
Bingo!!
TrueBlue | 4.12.12 @ 1:24PM
Tell them they can't practice on campus and you'll get a worse reaction.
JT| 4.12.12 @ 2:36PM
They(muslims) are an enemy of my enemy designated "protected" species, when they have served their purpose as useful idiots to the godless leftists, they too will be done away with, they just don't know it yet. But I will give the Muslims credit for one thing. they WILL go down fighting, not with a whimper like most of the people in this country are.
One if by land...| 4.12.12 @ 4:07PM
Just do what I did, join the Army and kill them.
RN| 4.12.12 @ 9:52AM
I can tell you that the kids are screwing themselves unconscious at the state univ. near me. Contraceptives sales and condom sales through the roof. Incredible health issues, STDs, VDs, and lots of lost class time as students sneak around trying to obtain health care (often in a panic) while not letting mommy, daddy, guardian, or whomever is paying the bills know. Of course the campus health facilities and univ. hospital keep it all well under wraps, strict confidentiality and all that. So, no worries for a 19 year old sophomore. The parent(s) will never learn about it unless, I suppose, the disease is incurable or requires very expensive long-term care. Abortions? You guessed it. Abortion clinics near the university and within a 50-60 mile radius that do a thriving business. It is commonplace to be late in a pharmacy and see a female of student age nervously looking for the pregnancy test kits.
Also a News Flash (only to the ignorant) -- The old taboos or academic regulations about zero tolerance of faculty or staff getting it on with the student body? Old. Passe. Gone. So long as it is discretely done, no harm, no foul.
Female students actually showing/pregnant still slogging through the semester? No. The babies are aborted long before this unsightly inconvenience would be seen on the sidewalks, in the classroom or in the library.
If anyone thinks all this is harmless and inconsequential, you really aren't using your brain.
PolishKnight| 4.12.12 @ 11:12AM
Ironically, a lot of the reason for this is due to the binge drinking and party atmosphere created by the 21 year old age limit set during the puritanical 1980's era. Frats and well connected students use alcohol to have sex with 18 year old girls living far from home. The girls are taught by their parents that loose sexual mores are ok provided she gets something out of it (a free meal or drink) which is a form of prostitution. This includes most Christian women (actually, non Christian women are more chaste!)
LindaF | 4.12.12 @ 11:34AM
On-campus pregnancy? Virtually unseen. How gauche it would be to show evidence of sexual activity.
skip| 4.12.12 @ 9:53AM
Mike S. Adams at Townhall.com has been all over this issue, challenging these groups and administrators.
albert constantine jr.| 4.12.12 @ 9:55AM
My advice to you, Flounder, is to start praying heavily.
albert constantine jr.| 4.12.12 @ 10:21AM
When I saw the headline of this article, I thought it was going to be about the GSA.
Von Mises Jr.| 4.12.12 @ 10:36AM
The irony is that liberal/progressives (read socialist) such as "Nanny" Bloomberg can tell us we can't smoke in his city, and "Moochelle" can order the food police to replace a ham sandwich with a veggie burger, since they claim that it is a burden on others that they have to pay for health care.
But the same people apparently do not care if some college slut has a baby and then collects AFDC, or some gay guy gets Aids from bug juice.
It is just another example of the fact that liberals do not know how to think. They are just propagandized and indoctrinated on what to think.
Anthony| 4.12.12 @ 10:47AM
Ah yes, spineless, gutless, and morally and intellectually bankrupt college administrators. A new sub species of human protazoa.
Why the next thing you know, lacrosse teams across America will not be allowed to party under penalty of suspension, criminal indictments, and faculty death threats.
Oh wait, that already happened. Never Mind.
albert constantine jr.| 4.12.12 @ 2:42PM
In an earlier era, college radicals protested against the school administration, who were in many case weak-willed classic liberals. Now, the radicals are the school administration, and their authoritarian intolerance of those who disagree with their vision of how the world (or a campus) should be is a reflection of how they are trying to run the country and the world.
Albert| 4.12.12 @ 11:08AM
Liberals and Educators (I know those terms to most are redundant) have a repugnant oxymoron that they cannot seem to deal with. That is they preach and even demand equality, free speech, tolerance and diversity, EXCEPT when it does not agree with their own views.
Examples of this hypocrisy are rampant, climate change (aka global warming), religious freedom (aka intolerance), fiscal responsibility are just a few.
Citizen Jerry| 4.12.12 @ 12:09PM
It's always been the way of tyrants to drive Christians underground in hopes they'll disappear. They are mistaken.
Gr0w1er601| 4.12.12 @ 12:10PM
These attitudes are to be expected when the inmates have finally graduated to administrator positions. Truly, the inmates ARE running the asylum!!
Petronius| 4.12.12 @ 12:27PM
Does this mean the wastrel frats have to let the social retards in so they will get laid and not shoot up the campus?
Bob| 4.12.12 @ 12:42PM
John Dewey was one of the most destructive people who ever lived. His fundamental influence on public education in the United States was all for the worse.
Richard| 4.12.12 @ 12:48PM
The dominant value here is "equality" as defined as making everyone alike. The realist would say that it, like Moynihan, would "define deviancy down" reducing all to equal the most base and vile in the group. Ann Coulter and the French philospher, Le Bon, would say that the mob is reduced to its lowest member. It appears that the American Revolution has become the French Revolution after all.
AJ from LA| 4.12.12 @ 12:55PM
Perhaps the administrators are thinking that these groups should follow their religions' principles to minister to all in hopes of convincing some that Truth is the way, they become born-again, and - yes - perhaps become religious leaders. But forgiveness never happens, does it?
Bill| 4.12.12 @ 1:15PM
America is a nation of Christanity. Period. Catholic, Mormon, Baptist, Protestant, LDS, Methodist, etc.
Seek| 4.12.12 @ 1:19PM
If the author here is implying that John Belushi's character in "Animal House" embodies the sort of administrators running today's campuses, he's either nuts or reading too many back issues of The New Criterion. Fun-loving frat house party animals are the antithesis of Leftist prigs. Unfortunately, sanctimonious Christian prigs such as Perry Glanzer can't see as much.
Go Tri Deltas!
Prester John| 4.12.12 @ 2:50PM
We mustn't forget that Blutto did end up being a U.S. Senator.
Cloudbuster | 4.12.12 @ 5:28PM
You'd think that, but the rebellious, partying, pot-smoking hippie protestors of yesteryear are today's diversicrat scolds.
Seek| 4.12.12 @ 5:42PM
Are they? It sounds like sheer projection on your part. If anything, white hippies of yesteryear (not the same category as party animals) are the software developers and Wall Street investors of today. The Diversi-crat moral scolds, by the way, are heavily black and Hispanic. That makes sense. The beneficiaries of these programs are mainly black and Hispanic.
Anthony| 4.12.12 @ 10:10PM
No, the old time hippies are not "software developers" or wall street bankers, that's just a cute story where they maybe dug up an outlier who ended up successful. Hippies wound up dead from OD's, living on welfare, or as teachers in the USA's universities and high schools.
Susan Benton| 4.12.12 @ 2:48PM
I realize some students might be pursuing a degree otherwise not available due to subject matter, or for some other reason might not have a choice, but otherwise why would anyone attend Vanderbilt, et al considering these policies. I urge every student, with or without religious beliefs, to boycott insitutions which are lead by ignorant, biased, narrow-minded administrators who are denying organizations the right to set their own rules and violates these organizations' core beliefs.
Not Special Ops Bill| 4.12.12 @ 2:56PM
I went to the Citadel for two years and I went to NYU for two years. The Citadel was a military school, all male, and highly structured and authoritarian. NYU was co-ed, in no way military, and they were only interested in getting the tuition money; otherwise, we undergrads were free to go our own way.
I got a better education at the Citadel than at NYU and I also learned how to be an adult there. I learned very little that was valuable at NYU.
Occam's Tool| 4.12.12 @ 8:50PM
Bill, you should have graduated from the Citadel, sir. After the first two years it had to be better.
Cloudbuster | 4.12.12 @ 5:26PM
The obvious response to this policy is to have conservative students pack opposition groups with their members -- have Republicans join the student Democracts group en mass, have pro-life students swamp the membership of any feminist or "women's rights" groups, have heterosexual people opposed to gay marriage swamping the student gay alliance groups.
What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
Marc Jeric| 4.12.12 @ 8:14PM
Modern tools of communist indoctrination are based on affirmative action, diversity, multiculturalism, inclusiveness - all actions based on racial and sexual profiling. In the area of crime prevention and terrorism - ah, that's different! No racial profiling there!
Russell| 4.13.12 @ 7:46AM
Baylor's only hope of salvation lies in cloning John Belushi and installing the next four of him as President , Provost ,Dean of the School of Education and Chairman of the Institute of Church-State Studies.
Mr. GLanzer seems a creep of high degree.
EJB| 4.14.12 @ 7:14AM
This seems like another link in the "diversity" chain. Kind of like maybe if someone who didnt like the USA, and blamed America for all the worlds problems was president. That would be diverse and it would work out great for everyone. There is no way it would cause high unemployment or sky high gas prices.