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Holder Upholds Voter Fraud
Dirty, cynical politics corrupts the rule of law.
On Monday, the U.S. Department of Justice, operating under antiquated “preclearance” provisions of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, blocked Texas’s recently passed Voter ID law, claiming that the law was targeting Hispanics and aimed at suppressing minority voter turnout in the state.
The DOJ recently made a similar ruling in South Carolina, ostensibly to protect black voters there.
These decisions are purely political, as Texas Senator
John
Cornyn, former Texas Attorney General
and member of the Texas Supreme Court, put it: “Today’s decision
reeks of politics and appears to be an effort by the Department of
Justice to carry water for the President’s reelection
campaign.”
Eric Holder and his DOJ henchmen are explicitly racist, which is to say anti-white, as convincingly demonstrated by former DOJ attorney J. Christian Adams in his must-read book, Injustice. It is an agency run by people who have said that they only intend to enforce voting law if the victim of a violation of the law is not white. For example, Adams quotes his “assigned mentor,” Avner Shapiro, who opposed bringing a case against Ike Brown, a notorious black Democrat election fraudster in Mississippi: “I didn’t come to work in the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice to sue black people.”
Regarding Monday’s DOJ decision, Adams told this reporter that “It is the latest radical decision by Eric Holder to please racial interest groups like the NAACP before the election. The objection is based on flimsy legal reasoning that exaggerates the statistical disparities and misrepresents the law regarding voter fraud. Jenniffer Maranzano, a former Advancement Project lawyer was deliberately assigned to the case to get this outcome.”
The DOJ is run by a man, Eric Holder, who explained (while in his prior position as U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia) a not-so-subtly racist paragraph (written by a Harlem preacher) that he carries in his wallet, in these terms:
It really says that… I am not the tall U.S. Attorney, I am not the thin United States Attorney. I am the black United States attorney. And he was saying that no matter how successful you are, there’s a common cause that bonds the black United States Attorney with the black criminal or the black doctor with the black homeless person.
Demonstrating the need for Texas’s law, a Texas-based group called True the Vote has found many instances of the very voter registration irregularities that Voter ID is designed to prevent from turning into fraudulent votes, and thus to shield our elections from some of the easiest to perpetrate forms of corruption. They found particular problems in the Houston-area district of Democratic Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee who, as usual, cried “racist!”
The efforts of the left’s “well-funded industry of voter fraud deniers that provides an intellectual smokescreen for this lawlessness” are, unfortunately, somewhat effective in convincing Americans that voter fraud is a myth despite widespread evidence of its existence and importance, and that efforts to combat voter fraud are naked racism.
Part of the reason for the fraud-deniers’ existence is that voter fraud tends to benefit Democrats disproportionately. And for that same reason, the media goes along, playing down important stories and creating moral equivalence where there is none.
For example, recent news reports covered both Democrat and Republican “voter fraud,” often in the same broadcast. However, the Democrats’ frauds included falsifying records and altering ballots (in Troy, NY) while the Republican “fraud” was a charge against the former secretary of state of Indiana, Charlie White, for illegally using his ex-wife’s address as his address of record; White was found guilty and sentenced to one year of home detention. These are hardly birds of a feather, yet the media routinely treat them as such.
Ironically, the state chairman of Indiana’s Democratic Party resigned in December after investigators found forged signatures on petitions used to put Barack Obama on that state’s ballot in 2008’s Democratic primary election. This of course received much less media attention than did the Charlie White case, despite its much greater significance.
The left’s constant refrain is that Voter ID laws suppress voter turnout, especially of lower-income and minority voters. DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz offered this gem of race-baiting: “you have the Republicans, who want to literally drag us all the way back to Jim Crow laws and literally — and very transparently — block access to the polls to voters who are more likely to vote Democratic candidates than Republican candidates.” Bill Clinton has made similar inflammatory remarks.
Despite the fraud-supporting industry’s claims of voter suppression, there is little credible data to support Democrats’ “sky is falling” rhetoric. For example, a study by Columbia University professors who say in their paper that “our sympathies lie with the plaintiffs in the voter ID cases” concludes that “the existing science regarding vote suppression [is] incomplete and inconclusive.”
According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, the claims of minority voter suppression are not borne out by the facts: “In Georgia, black voter turnout for the midterm election in 2006 was 42.9 percent. After Georgia passed photo ID, black turnout in the 2010 midterm rose to 50.4 percent. Black turnout also rose in Indiana and Mississippi after photo IDs were required.”
About the Author
Ross Kaminsky is a self-employed trader and investor and is a senior fellow of the Heartland Institute. He is the host of The Ross Kaminsky Show on Denver’s NewsRadio 850 KOA at 11 AM on most Sundays. You can reach Ross by e-mail at rossputin(at)rossputin(dot)com.
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ptny| 3.14.12 @ 6:19AM
Ross, if I'm not mistken, you're another one of the mainline GOP'ers who act like cheerleaders for never-ending, mass immigration.
As Laura Ingraham likes to say, "why do you think a poor, grade school educated 3rd world peasant is going to go for the idea of limited government and lower taxes"?
And how Pat Buchanan likes to say - "either the GOP will put an end to mass immigration or mass immigration will pjut an end to the GOP".
Both are true statements. Democrats don't like honest and valid voter registration and voting because they depend on people often who are not citizens and not registered to vote. - foreign born immigrants.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 9:02AM
ptny,
Not sure how I'm a "mainline GOPer", but as far as immigration, I support increased legal immigration, particularly among more educated would-be immigrants. (The debate often mistakenly focuses only on poor Hispanics.)
I am not for "open borders", and I would like to make sure that the welfare system is walled off for recent immigrants, so we're reasonably sure people are coming here to work.
By the way, there is extremely little evidence of non-citizens voting. That's not the major source of Dem voter fraud.
ptny| 3.14.12 @ 1:13PM
Ross, with a real unemployment rate of somewhere between 11-15%, what is the great justification for increased immigration?
If you knew more about immigration, you would know that legal & illegal immigration go hand in hand (ask Mark Krikorian at NRO). When we increase legal immigration, illegal immigration goes up.
And with the profession ethnic husltling lobbies, mainlyl for Latinos & Muslims, who gets to decide who comes here? Most native born Americans simply don't want to live with high numbers of immigrants from very different cultures - Hinuds, Muslims, etc. But we in "fly over " country don't have a vote. The Beltway Elites decide for us. We have to live with them, while the Beltway Elites live in gated communities and their kids go to private prep schools, with nary a Muslim or Hindu or Buddhist.
Obama summed up the immigration cheerleaders credo back in the 2008 campaign:
"Don't worry about immigrants learning Engilsh, just make sure your child can speak Spanish".
Timothy L. Pennell| 3.14.12 @ 9:11AM
Let's hear it for the Leftist Black Man. He runs the Country. He runs the Cities. He runs Africa, and Haiti. Detroit. D.C. Philly. Newark. Gary. Cleveland. Baltimore. Every City run by the Black man in this Country, is a Rat Infested, Roach Infested, Drug Infested, Crime Infested, Filthy, Stinkin Welfare bottomless pit, filled with Hoes and B*tches and all of their Fatherless kids, who are destined to end up in our Criminal Justice System. They descend on an area like LOCUSTS on Vegetation, and the results are the same. They pick it clean, and leave NOTHING in their wake.
Every Country in Africa, run the Black Man is an Apocalyptic War Ravaged Country, where War and Genocide, Rape Gangs and Slavery, Starvation, Malaria, and DEATH. are the National Pastime.
Haiti is the World's Poster Child, for Stupid People, unable to do ANYTHING for themselves. They'da been better off, staying on the Slave ship.
Bit I digress.
We have a Black President who has been immersed in Hatred for Whites, his whole life. Frank Marshall Davis. Jeremiah Wright. Louis Farrakhan. Khalid Rashidi. Valerie Jarrett. Fat Ass Michelle. Even his "White Friends" hate whites. The Wigger Father Pfleger, and the Insane Bill Ayers, whose Terrorist Group - The Weather Underground - thought that it would be a good idea if they would just go to the local Hospitals, and "Kill all the WHITE BABIES" before they could grow up to be Racists.
People wanna BAN WORDS all the time. N*gger. That's a banned word. It's right next to yelling Fire in a Theatre, as far as Freedom Of Speech is concerned. But, what does it mean? And, does it have a place in the Vernacular? And are there any N*ggers out there? I know that there's "Crackers" and "Honkies" and "Peckerwoods" and "House Negros", cause I hear Black Politicians and Celebrities talk about them all the time.
If I was one to use that word (and I am not) I would think that this bunch in Washington, would be the perfect fit for such a word.
We have a Black President who Hates White People. His Campaign has already declared that they will not try and get the Votes of WHITE Working Families. He has a Black Attorney General who WILL NOT PROSECUTE a fellow Black! A VIDEO of this President's Black Panther buddies, harassing, and threatening WHITE people as they come up to the Voting Place, was determined by the Blacks in this Black President's, Black Attorney Generals', Blacks Only Justice Department, to be "Insufficient Evidence". The same Black Attorney General who, along with his Black Boss, has the Blood of over 1,000 Brown Mexican Men, Women, and Children on his hands, for the Illegal Gun Running Operation, to the Mexican Drug Cartels. (If only they were just a little darker, this would never have happened.)
Everybody knows what's going on. We got a CRIMINAL running the Justice Department for a CRIMINAL President. In 2008 the Supreme Court, in a 6-3 decision, upheld Indiana's Voter I.D. requirements. Super Liberal Justice John Paul Steven, writing the majority opinion, wrote: "There is no question about the legitimacy or importance of the State's interest in counting only the votes of eligible voters".
So, what's the problem?
I'll tell ya the problem. We're dealing with a Culture of "By any means necessary". I don't know if it's Genetic, I just know that it's there. Show me a Majority Black Voting District that ISN'T riddled with FRAUD, every election, and I'll show ya a Leprechaun, riding a Unicorn.
We have the most Corrupt Administration in the History of this Nation. Crony Capitalism. Forging Documents. Illegal Drilling Moratoriums in violation of a Federal Judge's Orders. Money Laundering - Stimulus/Solyndra/Global Crossing/Fister/GE/GM/Chrysler. Conspiracy in the Forging of Documents by the Secretaries of Energy and the Interior. We've got MURDER in the Running of High Powered Automatic Weapons to the Drug Lords in Mexico, that they're murderous rampages might make it easier for our LEFTIST BLACK MAN President, to pass more Gun Legislation.
Seeing as how "N*gger" has been taken off the table, how can I put this? I know.
Why don't you explain to me how we are any different than Liberia, Somalia, or the Congo? We don't have a President, now. We have a STRONG MAN. A Strong Man who Jets around wherever his whims will take him, for Golf, and the Sandy Beaches, and the Caviar and Lobster, and $1,000 Wine, with his 1st Lady and her $600 Sneakers, and her $3,000 Handbag, and her $5,000 Evening Gown, as the Strong Man's PEOPLE, wonder how they're gonna make ends meet. How they're gonna keep their house, or put gas in the car, or feed their family.
That Soldier in Afghanistan. He's a Red Flag. He's that first LEAK in the Dam. I think that he just got sick and tired of being SH*T ON by this President. I think he just got tired of being IGNORED. He saw this President Apologize, AGAIN, to people who had just MURDERED 6 more American Servicemen, in cold blood. I think he got tired of being put in an impossible situation, with SUICIDAL Rules of Engagement, put in place by a man whom he knew, has an inbred HATRED for him, and his fellow Troops.
I believe that this Summer is gonna be a Game Changer. I think it's gonna hit the fan, and I think we're gonna see a lot more of this frustration, coming to a head.
That Soldier, to me, is the equivalent of the Man in Tunisia, who set himself on fire. If you ask me?
I believe that match has already been lit.
Yougenic | 3.14.12 @ 9:36AM
Amen... it's all about innate intellect.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 10:07AM
I hope this is sarcastic. Obama is wrong, deluded, and anti-American, but he's not stupid (in the technical sense of the word.)
Furthermore, we need to stay far away from race discussions when it comes to criticizing the president.
With Holder it's a different story because Holder and DOJ have explicitly made race an issue.
We must go after Obama ONLY on the issues, esp. economic issues. To the extent that we go after the DOJ on race-related issues, it must be in the context of the top of the federal law enforcement infrastructure not believing in equal protection of the law to whites. That is obviously and demonstrably true.
One if by land...| 3.14.12 @ 10:57AM
"in the technical sense of the word", either he is or he isn't stupid. He does have and education, yes. However, I can not recall a time he has demonstrated genuine intellect. He is told what to say and when. The times he has been left on his own, so to speak, he has been lost. Furthermore, Obama has throughout his political career demonstrated he is indeed a racist. Do we need to copy and paste every example?
One if by land...| 3.14.12 @ 10:58AM
Supporting a racist is racist! How did Holder get into his position? Hmmm
Trish| 3.14.12 @ 6:29PM
He is a cunning neo marxist totalitarian hater. No commas required.
SUBVET| 3.14.12 @ 11:02AM
Ross why stay away from RACE the boy king plays that card all day every day.
You call a spad a spad..........
SUBVET| 3.14.12 @ 11:03AM
sorry..... SPADE
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 11:55AM
My point is not that Obama and his administration aren't racist; they are.
My point is that going after Obama with that line is a sure political loser, much like the way the REAL issue surrounding forcing insurers to pay for contraception was turned into a "war on women."
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 12:36PM
"[...] much like the way the REAL issue surrounding forcing insurers to pay for contraception was turned into a 'war on women.'"
Where is the evidence that this was a political loser, Mr. Kaminsky?
The indications are that San Fran Nan's and Miss Fluke's phony ploy has failed miserably, no?
Scott| 3.14.12 @ 12:52PM
No.
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 2:04PM
I wasn't asking you, was I Scott?
You are obviously ignorant of such matters and have nothing of substance to add to the discussion.
Better luck, next time.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 12:39PM
To all:
I reiterate that the point I'm trying to make about criticizing Obama personally on the race issue is, even if entirely correct in substance, a huge tactical mistake if you want to beat him in November.
I am in no way suggesting that such criticisms would be wrong.
I would further add that those who want to argue the race topic have a MUCH more target-rich environment in the DOJ, and you could then say "Of course, these people work at the pleasure of the president and it's only reasonable to assume that he agrees with their views and actions."
I am certainly not trying to be politically correct. I just want to beat Obama in November, and the "race card" is a sure loser.
Scott| 3.14.12 @ 1:01PM
Nice job trying to suppress the race (racist) issue, Ross. Please tell some of your readers to leave their robes & hoods at home.
Every party tries to stay in power and both parties have used questionable techniques when it comes to voting (Florida, Ohio, Texas non-census redistricting).
FYI: The "Reverse Racism" ploy is a sure loser too.
Good luck in November , Righty-too-tighties!
Trish| 3.14.12 @ 6:32PM
I agree Ross. He is a neo Marxist totalitarian strongman regardless of the race.
One if by land...| 3.14.12 @ 7:01PM
I want to beat him every day of the week, from sun up until sun down. I get your point, but do believe brining up His racist side can be an aide. However, stooping to name calling will not help, I agree.
Buck Bradley| 3.14.12 @ 1:05PM
Ross your example cuts against your point as the "war against women" meme is turning out to be a huge flop for Obama. Maybe there is a lesson to be learned--maybe enough people are fed up with the PC and the phoniness and the holier-than-thou hate that they are more than ready to stand up and cheer the brave soul who stands up and shouts what they have all been thinking: "The Racist Hater has no clothes!" Sometimes you have to stop watching polls and just fight tyranny and racism! The results may surprise you.
Patrick| 3.14.12 @ 8:50PM
Actually, polls show that a strong majority are calling his "war on women" bluff.
Timothy L. Pennell| 3.14.12 @ 12:04PM
Ditto on the SUBVET.
WHY do we have to "stay away" from the sh*t that he, and his Administration, and all of his Pals in the Media do EVERY F-ING DAY DAY?
This is HIS Attorney General. This is HIS "Blacks Only" Justice Department. HE decided to jettison White Working Families. HE sat in that RACIST/ANTI-SEMITIC CHURCH.
HE went to the FARRAKHAN Rallies. HE's responsible for the GUN RUNNING and the thousand DEAD MEXICANS.
Who the HELL do you think you are, telling us "What we must do" when it comes to going after this RACIST/MARXIST/AMERICA HATING POS?
How come he's got a Connecticut Social Security Number?
That's what YOU should be looking in to.
How come he says that because of their RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS, the Native Americans are free to kill the Bald Eagle, but the CATHOLICS can take their Bible and their Religious Beliefs, and STICK THEM UP THEIR ASS?
That sissified punk*ss Holder doesn't do anything without THE ONE'S Orders.
Stand up on your hind legs, Ross. Stop being afraid someone's gonna call ya a name.
He's a White Hating/Jew Hating/America Hating MFer, and he's doing everything he can, at lightning speed, to tear down this Country, because that's what EVIL does, when good men do Nothing.
STAND UP!
Renard| 3.14.12 @ 10:58PM
Search (I won't say the "G-word" anymore because of their lack-of privacy policies) for "Martha Trowbridge" as well as "ZERO" (well, OK, you know who - the "Resident"). I think she might be on to something, and her theory sure explains a lot of "holes" in Zero's bio (lack of). She's basically saying that the issue at hand is not WHERE the birth occurred, but of WHICH parentage! I won't spoil the secret, and there are some points which are contentious, but it is a fascinating investigation.
Timothy, you mentioned Farrakhan. I could never figure out his "love/hate" relationship with Zero over the years. If Trowbridge is even only partially right, this would explain Farrakhan/Zero - basically, Zero, 'betrayed' Farrakhan just like his reputed daddy did!
One last thing, before I call it quits for the night. I can't help but think about Andrew Breitbart lately. I watched his CPAC video a week before he died, and was thrilled by his talk about videos from Zero's college days. I also thought that this might be dangerous for him, NEVER suspecting that anything might actually happen.
Well, folks, no doubt about it, this is serious stuff. Watching Soledud No'Brain and Jaded No- mas duke it out with Joel Pollak on CNN about this first Breitbart video made me think of the movie, The Omen. Remember in the movie, no matter what kind of danger, sweet little Damien was in, there was always someone there to not only protect him, but ELIMINATE the threat. We've got the same thing going on now with the Resident, and it's going to get worse before it gets better.
Quite honestly, I keep hoping that Breitbart found video of Zero at the Patrice Lumumba People's Friendship University. Maybe he's saluting the Hammer and Sickle, or giving Gorby an East Bloc 'friendship kiss', ala Brezhnev and Honecker!!! Methinks that would be a pretty awesome "college days" video, eh! Poka, rebyata! Uvidimsya.
Yougenic | 3.14.12 @ 12:04PM
Ross, This may get me discharged from AS, but salient facts must not be ignored; anymore. The specific purpose of politically correct "Laws" (Laws are what they are.) is to silence debate. People are ordered to ignore what their senses and experiences reveal to them. God forbid experiences are shared - a stereotype might erupt. Stereotypes are persistent observable behaviors, behaviors experienced/witnessed/verified by others, that endure over time and resist remedial actions. The losses to liberties owed to PC laws are more than significant - they have ripped the once sturdy fabric of the nation in twain - replaced with a subjective, secular humanism and moral relativism that increasing grows to endanger; liberties, lives, families, property, and prosperity... certain topics are taboo. What can be done? White flight is the evidence of people acting in their best interests - when PC laws prevent them from directly challenging the threats around them. The racial component of this comment is not the author choosing - it is the chosen behaviors witnessed in certain areas and segments of society that provide him substance. Endorsing the behaviors - thru silence born of PC law compliance, is the desired outcome. Ignore it... pray it gets better. That approach hasn't worked and it won't. Unless or until it is confronted - head on, it will only get worse = historical fact. There is no where left to run. The missing prosperity, owed to the president's radical political strategy, precludes it for many; perhaps a majority. This too is by design. I'm afraid Tim is accurate and the facts in his argument bear up under scrutiny. Are there exceptions to every rule? Certainly. But life is not a science experiment. The scientific argument - if one anomaly is found/present, the entire premise is destroyed - doesn't play in the real world - hence white flight. People refuse to risk their valuables when the product of their senses and experiences suggest a threat is eminent. White Americans gave away employment and academic access and others out of racial fairness - Affirmative Action. What have they reaped for their beneficence? It's unfortunate Tim has an argument - but he does. We do not live in a color blind society. The opposite is true. What's changed? One race is protected, sacrosanct. Your comments support this. The other race is accused of causing; and/or as the source of; the unorthodox behaviors seen in the other - and no absolution, or remedial action, appears forthcoming anytime soon. That too is by design. One race will forever remain to blame for the unorthodox behaviors of the other. How else can you perpetuate sacrosanct? 2+2=5, war is peace, ignorance is strength... I know why you made the comments you did. I appreciate your motives. There are risks in every endeavor. Who questions the primary motivation by Democrats/Progressives was to field a black man to silence debate and infer racial sins whenever his actions prompted a strong POLITICAL disagreement?
PecosPete| 3.14.12 @ 2:05PM
Gerald : Exactly! Wish I had the time to write as well as you. Thanks for using your time to help educate.
Buck Bradley| 3.14.12 @ 12:24PM
Please stop telling us that we need to "stay away from race discussions when it comes to criticizing the president." The Black Liberation Thelogy (i.e. "Church of Kill Whitey") President has literally launched a race war and is the man responsible for directing Holder to refuse to prosecute blacks, to take all possible measures to intimidate white voters by making sure they know beatings by Holder's "People" will not be prosecuted, attempting to exploit black rage over (apparently) not being paid enough by productive citizens to whine about racism, encouraging non-whites to "punish your enemies" etc. etc. Make no mistake--Obama is a virulent, self-hating racist who has launched an explicitly race-based war against "Ice Devils" as his reverend Wrights calls whites. The time for craven head in the sand "see no evil" is past. It is Berlin and it is 1933--election time. We are at a fork in the road and your timidity will lead us all to the ovens....
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 12:39PM
See my 12:39 PM comment a few notes above...
Scott| 3.14.12 @ 1:06PM
You opened a can of worms, Ross. Welcome to the racist hate bubbling beneath the surface of many in your party. :/
George True| 3.14.12 @ 1:26PM
Projecting, are we? It is you leftists who are always making race an issue. YOU are the racist.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 1:30PM
Scott,
The true racism in America is in the Democratic Party, as it has been for 50 years.
RAMIII| 3.14.12 @ 2:07PM
Ross, you have hit the nail on the head! It is precisely that party that has endorsed racist tactics, both in the South many decades ago and now through clandestine means, by using inuendo and double speak. They cannot allow them (minorities) real liberty from the tyranny of their policies, since that would topple the whole house of cards. Thanks for speaking to this issue.
PecosPete| 3.14.12 @ 2:07PM
Scott, which political party passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964?
The Bruce| 3.14.12 @ 5:50PM
Scott, the bigotry of lower expectations (Affirmative Action) is racism.
There is no racism "bubbling" beneath the Republican party. We're just getting tired of the blatant racism of the Department of "Just US," where whites are told, right to their faces, that justice will be served only to whom they deem sacroscanct -- blacks and hispanics -- and that if an injustice occurs towards a white person, it must be because they somehow deserved it.
cowgirl| 3.14.12 @ 10:46AM
You left out one of the worse cities in the U.S.:
Oakland, California.
If Holder and Obama are looking for revenge, then we must pray for them. Why?
Because revenge is mine sayth the Lord.
I would rather deal with Obama and Holdner's wrath any date of the week than God's wrath.
Good post.
SUBVET| 3.14.12 @ 11:00AM
AGAIN FULL SPEED AHEAD.......TLP
Scott| 3.14.12 @ 1:03PM
"Every City run by the Black man in this Country, is a Rat Infested, Roach Infested, Drug Infested, Crime Infested, Filthy, Stinkin Welfare bottomless pit, filled with Hoes and B*tches and all of their Fatherless kids, who are destined to end up in our Criminal Justice System. " Damn, the Republican party should be proud to have you as a spokesman! LOL!!!
George True| 3.14.12 @ 1:29PM
Scott: YOU are the racist. In today's America, he who crys racist is himself, almost always the actual racist. You make race a big deal while conservatives judge someone on the basis of character, never race. I repeat: You and your fellow travelers are the racists.
Buck Bradley| 3.14.12 @ 1:36PM
Scott is a racist because racism is all leftists have left. Sad, really....
Mike 3/505| 3.14.12 @ 2:08PM
We are all missing the real point of all this...The unconstitutionality of the "pre-clearance" portion of the CRA. This is where states, singularly and severally, need to ignore the DOJ in this regard.
There is no duty for a municipality, a state or an individual to obey an immoral or unconstitutional law. Contrary to the opinion of some folks, the determination of contitutionality is not made by the Supreme Court. It is made day in and day out, by public acceptance of the law.
PCC| 3.14.12 @ 6:51AM
Mr. Kaminsky is obviously a racist.
Brian Mc| 3.14.12 @ 7:05AM
Your blatant statement leaves me shaking my head. The question associated with this issue is simply this; who is willing to ensure that no one walks into a polling place and votes in my stead? If there's a politician willing to do this and that makes them a 'racist' in your eyes and this is all the 'proof' you need to utter your claim, then there is no further discussion.
Jeremiah Smirking| 3.14.12 @ 7:47AM
I believe that PCC was being sarcastic... unless you're being sarcastic about shaking your head, which leaves me wondering why I'm still smirking.
Brian Mc| 3.14.12 @ 8:08AM
His 'sarcasm' went over my head. It is early if such is the case. I took the statement at face value without further hints to the obvious which you had to point out to me.
POST American| 3.14.12 @ 6:55AM
---Great piece!
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topping last year's record ----news comes out
that NOW the RED Chinese have passed a
law modelled on our own NDAA 1021
--even openly citing the same!
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is rapidly emerging as the definitive conflict
of the 20th century, viz a viz the 21st."
IN this, the 11th hour of the CFR Rockefeller
-RED China handover, TREASON and EUGENICS OP
ON this, the 'overlooked' 60th Anniversary of the
stupendously relevant, Globalism and EUGENICS 'unfuzzy'
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PecosPete| 3.14.12 @ 7:15AM
Okay TROLLS, who exactly can't get a valid photo ID?
Indy| 3.14.12 @ 7:34AM
Let's not bait the trolls, they clutter up the thread.
The Bruce| 3.14.12 @ 3:09PM
Not to mention leaving feces on the walls.
Mr. Kimber| 3.14.12 @ 8:28PM
Don't forget police cars.
J. Purple Moscovite| 3.15.12 @ 3:51PM
Or the dead by anal suffocation rodents.
jppc| 3.14.12 @ 7:17AM
Its all about electing new Texans and nationally, electing a new people - 3rd worlders - Latinos, Muslims, etc. Displace native born White Americans and de-value our vote while elevating the vote for the foreign born.
Nancy in NC| 3.14.12 @ 7:38AM
If anyone has any doubts the chicanery going on in the DOJ they should read "Injustice" by Christian Adams. He documents the underhanded, out right racist deeds happening, and one finds that Eric Holder is only one of many racists in the DOJ. There is truly no justice in the DOJ.
Indy| 3.14.12 @ 9:13AM
Injustice is on my reading list (it's a long list so I'm not sure when I will get to it). I do read his articles at PJM, too bad TX did not follow his guidance to go straight to the Federal Courts. Here's his latest piece
http://pjmedia.com/jchristiana.....epage=true
The key point I noted - "Had Texas filed a lawsuit in April 2011 to have voter ID approved, and challenged the constitutionality of Section 5 in the complaint, voter ID would now be in place in Texas. Instead, it is unlikely to be effective even by November 2012 – unless Texas challenges the constitutionality of Section 5. Then approval will come faster.
We will soon learn if Texas is all hat and no cattle. A lawsuit to obtain approval of voter ID that challenges the unconstitutional action of Eric Holder will unleash a stampede. Anything else is a whole lot of nothing."
Indy| 3.14.12 @ 7:44AM
"DOJ precleared Georgia’s law in 2005 because it was not discriminatory. That judgment has proven to be correct, since the turnout of minority voters in Georgia has gone up dramatically since the implementation of the law. And a lawsuit filed under the Voting Rights Act by the ACLU and the NAACP was also thrown out because a federal judge found that the law was not discriminatory. According to official figures from the Georgia Secretary of State, in the 2008 election, Hispanic voter turnout increased 140 percent over 2004 (when there was no photo ID law in place), while the turnout of black voters went up 42 percent. In the 2010 midterm election, the turnout of Hispanic voters went up 66.5 percent over 2006, while the turnout of black voters increased 44.7 percent. By contrast, the turnout of white voters only increased 8 percent in 2008 and 11.7 percent in 2010."
More below, the full piece is worth a read, as the article mentioned, True the Vote has done a lot of work and is sharing the information they learned with anyone, citizens from across the country are getting involved to do what we can to make sure elections are fair, join us.
http://blog.heritage.org/2012/.....for-texas/
http://www.truethevote.org/
jppc| 3.14.12 @ 7:53AM
As Lawrence Auster says so well on his site, View From the Right -
"Why do we keep inviting people to immigrate into this country who have Mexican agendas and Muslim agendas and Chinese agendas, but not American agendas? Because that’s what America is about.
On the basis of the sacred American liberal belief that only the universal human individual is real and ethnicity doesn’t matter, we keep allowing the whole world to enter America. But the tiny little problem with this noble scheme is that the people we are allowing into this country on the basis of the belief that ethnicity doesn’t matter, do not themselves believe that ethnicity doesn’t matter."
Jack London| 3.14.12 @ 7:59AM
This article of course does not discuss or even mention from what I can see just what evidence there is for widespread voter fraud. The article therefore is a fraud.
PecosPete| 3.14.12 @ 8:50AM
Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack, you aren't helping yourself with an asinine post. As [ Indy ] points above, voter ID can increase the turnout of minority voters. As for your "widespread fraud" comment, it only takes one fraudulent vote to change a tie vote.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 10:09AM
Jack, are you not capable of looking that up yourself? Furthermore, how "widespread" does fraud need to be in order to rationally want to stop and prevent it?
Jack London| 3.14.12 @ 10:26AM
Ross, vtwin posted below:
'The Bush Department of Justice 2002-2006, so called war on voter fraud found efforts resulted in only 86 convictions out of nearly 200 million votes cast, a rate of 0.0000004%.'
You made no case whatsoever in your article that there is meaningful fraud in our voting systems that would warrant photo ID. You've just written yet another article that many hard-righters have also done that thinly disguises the real motive for ID.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 10:33AM
Jack,
The problem with that analysis is that fraud tends to be concentrated in particular races, so comparing it to the total votes cast in the nation is inappropriate.
We have many close elections in this country, and voter fraud can make a difference in those.
Read the quote from black Democrat Artur Davis in my article.
And just Google "voter fraud" and you'll find plenty of evidence.
Anyway, the tiny percentage of total votes cast is like saying that the damage to Alaska's coast or the Gulf coast after the world's biggest oil spills is irrelevant because only .0000000004% of the world's ocean or coastline was impacted.
Jack London| 3.14.12 @ 11:03AM
Sorry but you've not cited any proper evidence that fraud is a major problem.
And as for Artur Davis - would this be the same Artur Davis described as 'the first African-American candidate in a statewide Alabama race to lose the black vote' and who is a Republican in all but name?
And your comparison with an oil spill makes no sense. Just as the whole world is not spoiled by one spill, neither is the whole voting system by a much less major issue.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 11:58AM
Just as one local area can be damaged by an oil spill (and it doesn't even have to be very big), one local election can be damaged by voter fraud (and it doesn't have to be very big.)
But look at ACORN for your "widespread voter fraud."
The only reason you're not finding it is because you're not doing even the slightest bit of your own homework because "you can't handle the truth."
Jack London| 3.14.12 @ 12:19PM
I'm sorry Ross but you've been taken in by the ACORN thing - some canvassers aiming to register voters were found to have faked registrations so they could get paid more. It wasn't about organising fraud at the ballot box.
Richard| 3.14.12 @ 12:14PM
So what if it is not a "major" problem. It still exists and must be stopped. I don't want my vote cancelled by a dead man resurrected by a corrupt political machine to oppress me!--I say this as a black man.
vtwin| 3.14.12 @ 12:36PM
Ross,
Maybe, but voter disenfranchisement caused by voter ID laws would certainly fall disportionately on the young, the poor (by extension minorities), and the old, and this to would effect races. One the result of unlawful activity the other the REAL intent of the law.
vtwin| 3.14.12 @ 12:39PM
Sorry, affect.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 12:43PM
vtwin,
First, I do not accept your implied premise that "disenfranchising" one voter is worse than allowing a fraudulent vote.
Second, please tell me how many young adults or poor people don't have some form of government issued ID.
Furthermore, in Texas at least, the old can vote by mail with no ID requirement, and the poor can get their ID card for free.
There's a reason these laws as so popular with Americans, including with Hispanics.
In fact, I don't think most liberals who oppose the laws actually believe any votes are being suppressed. Instead, they just want to be able to claim that that's the evil Republicans' intent.
Just like liberals don't actually believe Republicans are trying to make contraception more difficult for women to buy.
It's all cynical political misdirection.
vtwin| 3.14.12 @ 2:00PM
"Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?" -- Abraham
"Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer," -- William Blackstone
"I do not accept your implied premise that "disenfranchising" one voter is worse than allowing a fraudulent vote." --Ross Kaminsky
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 5:52PM
vtwin,
Note Justice Stevens' point that there is a major state interest in public perception of elections as fair.
Someone not getting to vote because they didn't go get a free ID card is not the same as putting an innocent person in jail.
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 11:32AM
Jack Moscow,
What in the Wild, Wild, World of Sports is "meaningful fraud"?
Fraud is fraud.
You liberals are playing with fire.
If the people can't trust the integrity of their elections, they will exercise their power in other ways, like force.
Bleeding hearts, such as yourself, need to stop being a voter-fraud apologist, okay?
All of your arguments against stopping voter-fraud are vapid and disingenuous.
albert constantine jr.| 3.14.12 @ 12:24PM
Meaningful fraud only occurs if a Republican is elected, whether fraudulently or not.
One if by land...| 3.14.12 @ 11:07AM
Oh stop it with your sense of wrong is wrong no matter how great. Silly you with your silly integrity.
Bill| 3.14.12 @ 8:11AM
Eris Holder is the "Joseph Goebbels" of the Obama administration. He should be prosecuted for perjury and obstruction of justice.
Intelligent Design| 3.14.12 @ 8:18AM
Holder and Obama lied when they took the oath of office. It's all downhill from there.
JimH| 3.14.12 @ 8:26AM
The MSM and others are constantly claiming that no large scale voter fraud exists and claim that efforts to prevent it are a waste at best or racism at worst. Various studies are cited to support this claim. I guess it would be difficult to quantify or a bunch of elected officials would be out of jobs and possibly in jail, but can anyone recommend any studies or websites which convincingly demonstrate the extent of the issue? This would be helpful when refuting these claims from the left.
KnownUnknowns| 3.14.12 @ 9:20AM
it would be helpful, but the FACT that they dont exist does cause a problem for you doesnt it ?
JimH| 3.14.12 @ 9:38AM
Obviously this Justice department is not looking for it, but going back to JFK’s Chicago aided election, Rep. Bob Dornan’s loss and other incidents it is known to exist. The question is are there any reliable sources quantifying it. It is certainly not an unreasonable expectation that a voter be able to show that he is who he says he is.
Louis Jenkins| 3.14.12 @ 8:34AM
Department of Justice? What department of justice? Holder is the MC, in the center ring, and calls out each act to entertain the masses. He ignores the truth as we see it, and instead employs each act to only show his side of the story. Can't wait until the monkey-dog act come out. Oh wait! They're already out there. Let's see, Fast and Furious, non-existant Voter Fraud, trying terrorists in public court, to name three. What a great time we're having!! Can't wait until the final four years. 2nd Amendment on the chopping block.
The Bruce| 3.14.12 @ 3:13PM
No, no, no, you've got it wrong. Eric Holder sees it as the Department of "Just Us."
vtwin| 3.14.12 @ 8:55AM
The Bush Department of Justice 2002-2006, so called war on voter fraud found efforts resulted in only 86 convictions out of nearly 200 million votes cast, a rate of 0.0000004%.
So why are Republicans pushing Voter ID laws? Because affluent voters are more likely to have IDs (driver license and passports) than poorer voter and affluent voters are more likely to vote Republican.
KnownUnknowns| 3.14.12 @ 9:18AM
They long for the days when only white, male, Christian landownewrs could vote.
they really have no other fans in America other than that group.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 10:34AM
As I said to the other liberal, counting voter fraud as a percentage of total votes cast is inappropriate because fraud tends to be concentrated in certain areas and certain races.
DRed| 3.14.12 @ 11:19AM
Which races have been swayed by proven voter fraud?
I don't think well constructed voter ID laws are a bad idea, but I don't understand the conservative hysteria about the issue either. You say that this is obviously a benefit to democrats? Why? Do you have evidence that voter fraud is more common for democrats?
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 12:00PM
Read Christian Adams' book, Injustice.
And listen to my interview of him:
http://rossputin.com/blog/back.....er-23-2011
DRed| 3.14.12 @ 12:25PM
Which races have been swayed by proven voter fraud?
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 12:47PM
Just one high-profile example, and I don't know what came of it:
http://www.minnpost.com/dc-dis.....n-election
Also, check this as an example of mischief in smaller elections (this from Florida):
http://www.ejfi.org/Voting/Voting-9.htm
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 12:51PM
This is interesting too:
http://patdollard.com/2012/02/.....to-happen/
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 12:53PM
And listen to this, starting around 6:30 in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU6NoQ3Q-JQ&
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 1:02PM
DRed,
Off the top of my head?
Robert "B-1 Bob" Dornan (R) had his House seat stolen by Loretta Sanchez-Brixey (D), in 1996.
Christine Gregoire (D) stole the Washington gubernatorial election from Dino Rossi (R), in '04.
Al Franken-fraud (D) stole the Minnesota senatorial election from Senator Norm Coleman (R), in '08.
Hmm. Does anyone see a pattern here?
vtwin| 3.14.12 @ 2:18PM
Sanchez won by 984 votes
Gregoire won by 129 votes
Franken won by 312 votes
My guess; Republicans cry "voter fraud" whenever they lose by a small margin?
Anthony| 3.14.12 @ 2:34PM
My guess, you and your fellow San Fran biker boys can sell your tricycles and purchase voter I.D. cards for EVERY phony "disenfranchised" voter without, that can't get them for free.
My second guess, you folks on the left are playing with fire, and you know what happens to those who get too close to the flames, don't you vtwin?
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 2:38PM
Your guess, like probably every thought you've ever had, is wrong, Vtwin.
The voter-fraud in each of those elections was well documented and proven. Which is what DRed asked for in his reply to Mr. Kaminsky.
The voter-fraud was also well above the so-called "margin of victory" in those races. In Gregoire's and Franken-fraud's cases, they just kept counting until they both won. With the help liberal activist judges, of course.
Ask whoever helped you find those figures to show you the whole story.
Nite| 3.14.12 @ 7:24PM
After the so called election for Sanchez, it was found that a lot of illegal Hispanics voted in the election. Well over the margin of win. They said, well the election is over now so she will just stay in. That made the papers in CA.
PecosPete| 3.14.12 @ 2:16PM
"A study of Lyndon B. Johnson provides new evidence that the 36th President stole his first election to the United States Senate, in 1948." Published by the New York Times, February 11, 1990.
The Bruce| 3.14.12 @ 3:17PM
In my neck of the woods, it's Hispanics. You can watch them be bussed in, offloaded by a white liberal female, and told (in Spanish) who to vote for.
The last time I saw it happen (2010) an off-duty Border Patrol agent happened to be there to vote. I took great pleasure watching all 30 of them (especially the white female) get hauled of to jail.
idalily| 3.14.12 @ 11:14AM
The bigger question is, "Why are Dems so opposed to voter ID laws?" You must have photo ID to buy BEER, for God's sake. Yet it's racist to expect photo ID to vote? Seriously, Dems think the democratic process is less important than beer. Tells me everything I need to know about them.
The Bruce| 3.14.12 @ 3:18PM
It's racist because you're preventing undocumented Democrats from voting.
Mr. Kimber| 3.14.12 @ 8:34PM
My son needs a pic ID to get a library card.
George True| 3.14.12 @ 1:40PM
You're a willful idiot. You are also like many of your "useful idiot" leftist fellow travelers.
In 2008 there was documented massive voter fraud in Ohio and Indiana, among other places, perpetrated by the Democrats. Busing people over state lines to vote in more than one state and/or county. Dead people voting by absentee ballot. College students being encouraged by Democrats to vote by absentee ballot and then voting again in person on election day. All done by Democrats. And then the corrupt Democrat secretary of state installed by the George Soros Secretary of State Project purposely ignoring the fraud.
Voter fraud has become the Democrats' standard way of fixing a close election. And they only need to successfully perpetrate this fraud in just a few battleground states to swing a national election.
But you already know this. And because you try to dismiss the obvious, that makes you a liar. A willful, intentional, stone cold liar. Just like all your leftist/socialist/communist breathren.
George True| 3.14.12 @ 1:41PM
Above comment directed at Vtwin.
kwan| 3.14.12 @ 9:00AM
Eric "the Last Truth Bender" Holder is a ghetto Leninist who see his mission as providing cover and protection for the "Revolution". For the first time in its history the United States has elected a President who along with his administration is working 24/7 to "fundamentally transform" the country into a Totalitarian Socialist State.
albert constantine jr.| 3.14.12 @ 9:04AM
During the last few decades that I’ve been working in law enforcement, I have found that the only people who have difficulty getting photo IDs are those who are attempting to defraud and deceive, and only then, because fraudulent IDs are more expensive than legitimate ones.
While I strongly support these fraud reducing measures, it might be expected that if they are finally passed and upheld in all jurisdictions, look for the opportunities in the black market for the reproduction of fraudulent accepted IDs to increase, along with the cost of stealing an election.
W| 3.14.12 @ 10:30AM
You need a driver's license or photo ID to enter the Federal Building in Pgh, and probably most other cities.
Also many private building with security now require a driver's license or photo ID.
I have never heard of a complaint from anyone about difficulty in getting a photo ID.
albert constantine jr.| 3.14.12 @ 10:36AM
That is correct. If you used the local post office as a polling place, problem solved.
W| 3.14.12 @ 10:43AM
Maybe Holder does not have a driver's license or photo ID and was barred from the Fed Bldg in DC?
It takes about 15 minutes to get a photo driver's license in PA. I know 15 min is a lot of time but we must sacrifice so we can vote.
vtwin| 3.14.12 @ 1:14PM
While going through her things after my elderly mother (who served our country in uniform in Europe during WWII) passed away we found her drivers license it had expired decades earlier. Not all American have Photo IDs
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 1:59PM
Vtwin,
As the late, great Andrew Breitbart would've said, "Sooooooo?"
If you want to vote, go get an identification card with your photograph on it. There is no absolute right to vote in this country. There never has been. The exercising of rights entails duties, obligations, and sometimes sacrifice.
If it is too much of a burden to get a photo ID, then it is too much of a burden to get to the voting-booth and vote. Should we also get rid of the booths?
Anthony| 3.14.12 @ 2:49PM
So vtwin, how many times did your mother vote with a decades old expired drivers license???
Hmmm, here's an idea for you vtwin that you and your fellow ACORN thugs will get credit for by Obozo. You guys can institute a program to collect expired drivers licenses and hand them out to illegal aliens so they can vote. Kinda like collecting used eye glasses for the poor.
Just set up boxes and hand them out to any illegal who wishes to vote.
No D registrar of voters worth his/her D credentials will be the wiser when a young illegal Mexican male votes with the photo I.D. of a deceased 85 year old white woman.
Yep, that's what I call Hope & Change!!!
The Bruce| 3.14.12 @ 3:24PM
And given that her state would have issued her a state ID for free, what's your point?
But I don't buy any of your story. You can't tell me that your mother went for decades without engaging in SOME transaction that required ID. I have to show an ID at least twice a week for everyday things.
W| 3.14.12 @ 3:48PM
Every bank requires ID to cash a check. At every real estate closing you have to show photo ID. Every Notary requires phot ID to notarize any document. The list is endless. The point is just about everyone has some form of photo ID, it is easy to obtain, and is necessary for numerous daily living activities.
Why is the only complaint about photo ID is from Democrats about voting?
If someone is too lazy to get a photo ID he should not vote.
If someone is elderly and needs assisstance, then how about that person's family? We do still have family and friends and do not have to rely on the government for everything.
.And if there is no family I can guarantee you the local Dem or Rep political rep will help.
Ground Control| 3.14.12 @ 9:05AM
Excuse me, but the US Deartment of Justice has no legal authority to invalidate Texas Law. Eric Holder can say anything he wants, but his proclamations have no weight. Just saying Texas Law "violates" anything is insufficient, he must prove his accusations in court. Most people are overlooking the real danger here, that we are becoming a nation of Executive Orders and Dictates, that the Rule of Law is disappearing before our eyes as narcissists who think they know better than the voters are overturning legitimate Laws by simple fiat. That these narcissists' illegal acts and declarations have a political benefit to them should not be overlooked.
Texas should tell Eric Holder what he can do with himself and just enforce its Laws accordingly.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 10:11AM
The problem is that the Voting Rights Act of 1965 gives DoJ the authority to approve or disapprove changes to voting law in 16 states, or parts of states, that were deemed to have violated residents' voting rights nearly 40 years ago. It is now being used for essentially racist and overtly partisan purposes by an overtly racist and overtly partisan DOJ.
Ground Control| 3.14.12 @ 11:48AM
I stand corrected. Time for the VRA of 1965 to be repealed. There is no justification for it anymore.
Ground Control| 3.14.12 @ 11:50AM
I stand by my original point however. We are becoming a nation of Executive Orders and dictates, and the Rule of Law is being subverted by self-seeking politicians.
Buck Bradley| 3.14.12 @ 1:47PM
Yup.
Buck Bradley| 3.14.12 @ 1:47PM
Yup.
Mike 3/505| 3.14.12 @ 7:44PM
Ross,
Lemme help you out. The CRA says that the feds have the authority to pre-clear...But just because a law says something, doesn't make it true. THAT is the point we need to make. Improper/Unconstitutional Federal Laws do NOT trump state law.
Indy| 3.14.12 @ 9:08AM
"county registrars admit that they can’t verify that all votes cast in their counties were cast by legal citizens"
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012.....re-voting/
KnownUnknowns| 3.14.12 @ 9:15AM
as usual, Republicans cannot win any national elections unless they supress the vote.
America is just not that into them and they know it.
There just arent enough southern bigots to sustain the GOP, so their only chance is to eliminate voters, hire Diebold and hope for hanging chads.
Melvin| 3.14.12 @ 9:34AM
And I suppose that there is isn't enough Northern Bigots to cheat the vote like in Connecticut most recent example.
I so sick and damn tired of you condescending, pointy nosed pricks, with your view on Southerners.
I am a proud Southerner who lives in North Carolina, and I don't have to apologize for anything, I live by one simple rule. I treat others as they treat me. Since your saying Southerners are bigots, therefore I'll have no problem treating you like the complete and utter Jacksass that you are.
Melvin| 3.14.12 @ 9:38AM
error-Voter fraud in Vermont and not Connecticut.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 10:11AM
Please show me any real evidence of "voter suppression"
albert constantine jr.| 3.14.12 @ 10:40AM
KnownUnknown can't spell suppress, much less point to an example where a single vote has been suppressed through a photo ID requirement.
At my polling place, the local Democrat challenger calls for my photo ID each time I vote, despite the fact that she knows me (I attended grade school with her daughter for eight years).
Anthony| 3.14.12 @ 11:18AM
Ross, there is none, real or imagined. But there sure as hell evidence of voter fraud. Can you spell ACORN?
dcod| 3.14.12 @ 10:40AM
KU the illiterate: you're free to start a secession movement amongst like-minded socialist yankee a-holes. Believe me, most of the southern and mountain west states would cheer you on. There is nothing--nothing--that any state north of the Potomac River and east of Ohio offers that is essential for the functioning of a Constitutional republic. Get out, leave the United States of America alone, start and run your rump Socialist States of America as you see fit. Good luck.
And, more pertinent to the article, perhaps you can explain Al Franken's "win" in Minnesota, and DOJ's inexplicable dropping of the video-evidenced, open and shut case against the Black Panthers in Philly? Crying about white racism is just another means to political power for Holder and folks like you who would love to put all conservatives (white, black, brown, whatever) in concentration camps. Again, good luck.
SUBVET| 3.14.12 @ 11:17AM
K & Un............Diebold the ones that have electronic voting machines that have been tampered with so the outcome is for their favorite candidate.
I recommend tracking down the HBO documentary HACKING DEMOCRACY and then tell me about how elections are controlled.
Bongo| 3.14.12 @ 12:02PM
So why all the focus on ensuring voters have IDs? Hacking the Diebold machines is much more efficient and likely more effective in swaying an election than suppression college students, minorities and the elderly (mostly Dem voters). By focusing only on the Voter IDs it makes the issue look awfully partisan instead of a concern for voter fraud.
Bongo| 3.14.12 @ 12:02PM
suppressing* not suppression
The Bruce| 3.14.12 @ 6:21PM
Bongo,
The suppression argument is a Red Herring, and you know it.
Unless of course by suppression you mean taking away one's ability to vote more than once in an election. In that case, I'm all about that kind of voter suppression.
George True| 3.14.12 @ 1:47PM
Known Unknowns, you are a liar. A willful, intentional, stone cold liar. It is common knowledge everywhere that it is the Democrats who have made voter fraud their standard way of putting in the fix in a close election. You guys are also the true racists. Everything you and your leftist/socialist/communist fellow travelers say or do is a fraud and a lie. You are communists through and through. Perpetrating massive voter fraud for you guys is as natural and necessary as drawing your next breath.
Jack London| 3.14.12 @ 2:00PM
You can't read George – he said the Repubs are masters at suppression, tossing out black people's eligibility to vote wherever they can. And there is no national communist conspiracy to defraud ballots – that's in your head, which is a strange and hateful place.
George True| 3.14.12 @ 4:42PM
I can read just fine, Jack Moscow. My point was that while Dems raise the fabricated, non-real issue of supposed voter suppression by Repubs, they themselves (the Dems) engage in systematic voter FRAUD as their standard modus operandi.
Disenfranchising legitimate voters' votes by perpetrating voter fraud is in and of itself an incredibly hateful thing do do. And to do it systematically on a massive scale is so far beyond hateful it can only be described as evil. You and your fellow travelers are the ones engaged in an orgy of hatred.
By denying the known facts of the matter, you show yourself to be either a useful idiot parroting the lies of your collectivist masters, or else you yourself are a stone cold liar.
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 4:57PM
Excellent comments, Mr. True.
You truly do have to hate your fellow countrymen in order to defend voter-fraud. Which is what liberals implicitly do, when they so cavalierly dismiss this injustice.
All Americans, regardless of political party, should want every precaution taken to ensure an honest election. Those who invent non-existent "voter suppression," while ignoring proven cases of voter-fraud, don't care about their fellow citizens and are un-American for so doing.
Jack London| 3.14.12 @ 5:33PM
I can't let you get away with this, George. you know full well that voter disenfranchisement tactics is very much a GOP preserve. The below list – bar an incident by Kerry supporters – is GOP caging etc.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression
Examples of voter suppression in the United States
[edit]2002 New Hampshire Senate election phone jamming scandal
In the 2002 New Hampshire Senate election phone jamming scandal, Republican officials attempted to reduce the number of Democratic voters by paying professional telemarketers in Idaho to make repeated hang-up calls to the telephone numbers used by the Democratic Party's ride-to-the-polls phone lines on election day. By tying up the lines, voters seeking rides from the Democratic Party would have more difficulty reaching the party to ask for transportation to and from their polling places.[20][21]
[edit]2004 presidential election
In the U.S. presidential election of 2004, some voters got phone calls with false information intended to keep them from voting—saying that their voting place had been changed or that voting would take place on Wednesday as well as on Tuesday. Voters who believed this misinformation would go to the wrong polling place, or worse, not attempt to vote until after the election had ended.[22]
Other allegations surfaced in several states that the group called Voters Outreach of America had collected and submitted Republican voter registration forms while inappropriately discarding voter registration forms where the new voter had chosen to register with the Democratic Party. Such people would believe they had registered to vote, and would only discover on election day that they were not registered and could not cast a ballot.[23][24][25][26]
Michigan Republican state legislator John Pappageorge was quoted as saying, "If we do not suppress the Detroit vote, we're going to have a tough time in this election.".[27]
In 2006, four employees of the John Kerry campaign were convicted of slashing the tires of 25 vans rented by the Wisconsin state Republican Party which were to be used for driving Republican monitors to the polls. At the campaign workers' sentencing, Judge Michael B. Brennan told the defendants, "Voter suppression has no place in our country. Your crime took away that right to vote for some citizens."[28][29]
[edit]2006 Virginia Senate election
During the United States Senate election in Virginia, 2006, Secretary of the Virginia State Board of Elections Jean Jensen concluded that incidents of voter suppression appeared widespread and deliberate. Documented incidents of voter suppression include:[30]
Democratic voters receiving calls incorrectly informing them voting will lead to arrest.
Widespread calls fraudulently claiming to be "[Democratic Senate candidate Jim] Webb Volunteers," falsely telling voters their voting location had changed.
Fliers paid for by the Republican Party, stating "SKIP THIS ELECTION" that allegedly attempted to suppress African-American turnout.
The FBI has since launched an investigation into the suppression attempts.[31] Despite the allegations, Democrat Jim Webb narrowly defeated incumbent George Allen.
[edit]2008 presidential election
A review of states' records by The New York Times found unlawful actions leading to widespread voter purges.[32]
A dispute between the Social Security Administration commissioner and the National Association of Secretaries of State about the use of the Social Security database to test the validity of voters led to the shutdown of the database over the Columbus Day holiday weekend.[33]
[edit]Georgia
Wait times of between 2 and 10 hours were reported during early voting at multiple Georgia locations[34]
[edit]Michigan
Prior to the 2008 United States Presidential Election, on September 16, 2008, Obama legal counsel announced that they would be seeking an injunction to stop an alleged caging scheme in Michigan wherein the state Republican party would use home foreclosure lists to challenge voters still using their foreclosed home as a primary address at the polls.[35] Michigan GOP officials called the suit "desperate."[36] A Federal Appeals court ordered the reinstatement of 5,500 voters wrongly purged from the voter rolls by the State:[34]
[edit]Minnesota
The conservative nonprofit Minnesota Majority has been reported as making phone calls claiming that the Minnesota Secretary of State had concerns about the validity of the voters registration. Their actions have been referred to the Ramsey County attorney's office and the U.S. Attorney are looking into Johnson's complaint. [37]
[edit]Montana
On October 5, 2008 the Republican Lt. Governor of Montana, John Bohlinger, accused the Montana Republican Party of vote caging to purge 6,000 voters from three counties which trend Democratic. These purges included decorated war veterans and active duty soldiers.[19]
[edit]Ohio
Wait times of six hours were reported for early voting in Franklin County leading to people leaving the line without voting.[34]
[edit]Wisconsin
The Republican Party attempted to have all 60,000 voters in the heavily Democratic city of Milwaukee who had registered since 1/1/2006 deleted from the voter rolls. The requests were rejected by the Milwaukee Election Commission with Republican commissioner Bob Spindell voting in favor of deletion."[38]
[edit]2010 Maryland gubernatorial election
In the Maryland gubernatorial election in 2010, the campaign of Republican candidate Bob Ehrlich hired a consultant who advised that "the first and most desired outcome is voter suppression", in the form of having "African-American voters stay home."[39] To that end, the Republicans placed thousands of Election Day robocalls to Democratic voters, telling them that the Democratic candidate, Martin O'Malley, had won, although in fact the polls were still open for some two more hours.[40] The Republicans' call, worded to seem as if it came from Democrats, told the voters, "Relax. Everything's fine. The only thing left is to watch it on TV tonight."[39] The calls reached 112,000 voters in majority-African American areas.[40] In 2011, Ehrlich's campaign manager, Paul Schurick, was convicted of fraud and other charges because of the calls.[39][40] In 2012, he was sentenced to 30 days of home detention, a one-year suspended jail sentence, and 500 hours of community service over the four years of his probation, with no fine or jail time.[41]
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 5:55PM
Ohhhhh!
It's in wiki, so, it must be true, huh?
Seriously, Jack, may I please sell you some beach-front property? Plllleeaassssssssse?
Jack London| 3.14.12 @ 6:04PM
All referenced and the convictions of some of the perps are public records.
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 6:20PM
And all are straw men and irrelevant to the subject of this thread.
None of the examples listed, whether accurate or not, involve having to produce a photo ID in order to vote. Do they?
Can't you bleeding heart liberals argue a point without obfuscation?
The Bruce| 3.14.12 @ 6:26PM
Jack,
Please explain how any of this relates to voter ID.
Jack London| 3.14.12 @ 6:52PM
As I've said elsewhere, voter ID is one part of a set of actions such as voter caging and banning with felonies from voting that are aimed at cutting voters from minorities. The voter caging list above is to show that the systematic GOP strategy is far more important than any voter fraud accusations, which are minuscule.
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 7:25PM
"The voter caging list above is to show that the systematic GOP strategy is far more important than any voter fraud accusations, which are minuscule."
A bogus hypothesis of which you have no proof, nor a shred of evidence. You can't prove that anyone didn't vote because of those alleged phone calls.
We know that the dead, and people who should've been removed from the rolls, did in fact vote in certain elections from the past, and in what numbers.
As I stated previously, to some liberal on this thread, your argument is vapid and disingenuous.
Jack London| 3.14.12 @ 7:48PM
just read this report. You may learn something if you're prepared to open your mind.
http://naacp.3cdn.net/37b93ce1.....rsyxvb.pdf
The Bruce| 3.14.12 @ 11:06PM
Jack, I'm willing to concede the veracity of that report at face value so long as you're willing to concede that it's just as rampant on the other side. The inclusion of the Kerry incident was nothing more than a feeble attempt to make the report look non-partisan.
Both sides are just as guilty when attempting to "trick" voters out of voting (my answering machine can certainly attest to that).
DRed| 3.14.12 @ 11:22PM
Prediction: Nick will read as far as NAACP and then dismiss the report as a biased fraud.
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 11:29PM
DRed,
You must be psychotic, um, I mean psychic!
See my reply, below.
DRed| 3.14.12 @ 11:44PM
Damn I'm good.
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 11:58PM
Don't pat yourself on the back, DRed.
It doesn't take the deductive reasoning skills of Sherlock Holmes to figure out how corrupt the NAALCP organization is, and that yours truly would throw that fact back in Jack's face.
It was the timing that made you psychotic, um, I mean psychic.
Jack London| 3.15.12 @ 3:52AM
The report is referenced and makes compelling reading, but you're too bigoted to even try it. Here’s a part about voter fraud:
Instances of in-person voter fraud are extraordinarily rare. In Ohio, for example, a statewide survey of votes cast in
2002 and 2004 found that out of more than 9,000,000 voters, there were four instances of voter fraud.
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In fact, there
are far more reported UFO sightings than reports of impersonation at the polls, with a grand total of nine suspected
fraudulent votes that could have been prevented by restrictive photo ID laws since 2000—a period in which over 400
million votes were cast in general elections alone.
215
With in-person electoral fraud occurring at a rate of 0.000002%,
an individual is more likely to be struck by lightning than to impersonate another voter at the polls.
216
This absence of voter impersonation makes sense. Not only is voter fraud an extremely inefficient way to influence
the outcome of an election, but federal law already provides a hefty deterrent: for each act of in-person impersonation
fraud in a federal election, the perpetrator risks five years in prison and a $10,000 fine, in addition to any penalties
imposed under state law.
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Noncitizens face possible deportation.
When it comes to the false rationale that photo ID measures also combat fraudulent noncitizen voting, the myth is
even more clear: there is no evidence whatsoever that any noncitizen has ever risked the considerable criminal sanctions associated with fraudulent voting, nor would a noncitizen risk the even greater sanction of being deported.
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It
makes no sense that a noncitizen—or, the particular target of the right wing: an undocumented immigrant—would try
to purposely cast a fraudulent vote. Indeed, even in the rare recorded instances in which noncitizens have knowingly
registered or voted, investigations have shown that these individuals did so only because they mistakenly believed that
they were eligible to register or vote.
Nick| 3.15.12 @ 12:31PM
So, all you have left are cut-n-paste jobs, Jack Moscow?
Quoting a report by an organization whose only reason for existence today is to foment reverse racism, and discord between the races, is ridiculous and meaningless.
It's like citing a report from the CPUSA that claims socialism is the best economic system. Oh, wait, you probably believe that too, don't you?
I guess this means the next time that I quote from a report from the Heritage Foundation or Fox News Channel, you will accept the veracity of said report with no objections, eh?
You know what? I don't believe that you will.
Rmm| 3.14.12 @ 9:23AM
Holder, the indispensable political hack, dating back to the Clinton years , continues to stick his finger in the eye of decency. Here is a guy who has blood on his hands from his involvement in the Fast & Furious fiasco. Rather than insult us with more of his tainted decisions, he should be brought to justice. Pun intended.
Yougenic | 3.14.12 @ 9:34AM
WHoever is running against Wasserman should have a field day with her bloviated and excessive language, assertions, etc... Pinned down using her own words is a priceless gift.
martin j smith| 3.14.12 @ 9:52AM
The calls for Holder's resignation should grow louder and I also believe the word impeachment should also be spoken of both Obama and Holder.
Stormy| 3.14.12 @ 9:59AM
The time has come for a conservative black person to attempt o board an airplane, without a photo ID. And, when he is denied, due the TSA and Eric Holder for unlawful discrimination. How could they not win? If it is discriminatory to require a photo ID to vote, it is discriminatory to require a photo ID to board an airplane, check into a hotel, buy an alcoholic drink, etc. This must be insanity, folks.
Laurey Boyd| 3.14.12 @ 10:11AM
There was a misprint or mistake of 37 years since the 1964 VRA. It's been 47 years. The DOJ's narrative is to imply that nothing has changed in almost 50 years and that ID laws are akin to Jim Crow. That's an insult to everyone's intelligence.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 10:16AM
Good catch, Laurey. I fixed it. That was my brain cramp. It's not as if I work with numbers for a living. (Doh!)
Laurey Boyd| 3.14.12 @ 10:25AM
And I meant 1965. Oy
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 10:21AM
Dear readers: For those of you who have already read the article, I'd like to point out that I just added a paragraph (5th paragraph in the article) with quotes from J. Christian Adams, who I had discussed this issue with (by e-mail) yesterday.
Indy| 3.14.12 @ 11:14AM
Thank you, glad to see you posting to comments!
I would like to see someone tie in the increased risk for fraud with early voting. There are many holes in the voting process, a photo ID will help reduce the risk for fraud but there are areas in need of reform. In my county, it would be easy to vote early in one location and then go vote at a different location using a different name (my neighbor's as an example, all I need is the name and address, with the knowledge that my neighbor only votes on election day, I could cast a ballot under my neighbor's name, yes that would be a criminal act but it what is the likelihood of catching it? Now, expand that to all the potential problems, i.e. same day registration. If you live near a border state, you might be able to vote in 2 states and not get caught...pick battlegound states, say MO / IA, PA / OH or VA / NC. IL borders MO / IA, any chance voters will be bused across state lines? Governors in MO and NC vetoed photo ID bills. The DOJ is attacking TX / SC. Is there potential for fraud? I would say yes.
Widespread fraud is more likely to be detected but small numbers across precincts could fly under the radar. Early voting increases the risk for fraud, internal controls must be strengthened to mitigate those risks and also address risks for voting via absentee ballots.
RJ| 3.14.12 @ 2:46PM
Thanks Ross for the excellent article and supplementing it with your comments. Voter fraud is a critical and fundamental issue of our times. Thanks again.
Anthony| 3.14.12 @ 10:57AM
This article dovetails nicely with Blackwell's article today.
As I posted at Blackwell's article, this is proof positive that the D party and it allies are totally corrupt. The idea that presenting identification to vote represents voter supression is as fraudulent a concept as ever conceived by the mind of mankind. Anthropogenic Global Warming is a close second.
Make no mistake, these people are not misguided, nor merely altruistic. They are cold-blooded totalitarians out to destroy American sovereignity, the Constitution, and our very way of life.
We are under daily assault by these people in all aspects of our lives, be it food, energy, education, talk radio, and the sacred right to vote and have it mean something.
Funny how the left never see how voter fraud disenfranchises those of us honest voters. And of course, that's the rub, they do, and don't care.
I see no way of rational discourse to disabuse the left of their destructive ideology. Unfortunately, things are going to get very dicy.
Paul McGrath| 3.14.12 @ 11:57AM
Exactly. The Democrat Party leaders have become a mob. A gang of crooks. Nothing but their own power is sacred to them. Nothing.
In its most recent issue, NR reported that ten of the fifteen richest counties in the U. S. surround Washington, DC. The nomenklatura. We are becoming the Soviet Union right before our eyes.
gearjammer| 3.14.12 @ 6:50PM
They are outlaws. And, they are the sherriffs.
DRed| 3.14.12 @ 11:29AM
Ross, you say it's demonstrably true that Eric Holder thinks that white people don't deserve equal protection. What's your evidence for that? J. Christian Adam's book?
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 12:05PM
Adams' book, my conversations with him, and other reports.
This is interesting:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/.....eople.html
And this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....03982.html
DRed| 3.14.12 @ 12:36PM
Which white voters in the new black panther case complained that their voting rights were abused? How many were there?
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 12:56PM
That is not the standard, DRed. As Christian Adams said, it would have been the easiest conviction he would ever have been part of.
Anyway, here's the answer to your basically irrelevant question:
http://www.wnd.com/2010/07/175817/
DRed| 3.14.12 @ 3:42PM
Well yes, since the new black panthers didn't even bother to contest the charges, I assume a conviction would have been easy to get. Was the punishment given to the two guys at the voting station in Philadelphia consistent with similar convictions against similar defendants? What's the typical jail time for such an offense?
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 5:54PM
They received no punishment. And it's funny that you say they didn't "contest the charges." What they didn't do was show up at their required court hearing.
Jack London| 3.14.12 @ 6:02PM
You know Ross, conflating these crackpot panthers with massive voter interference does you no favors, living as we do in country where black people were lynched and shot for wanting the vote in my lifetime, and in a country where white supremacism is still commonplace, not least in some of your fellow supporters on this board. Shame on you.
DRed| 3.14.12 @ 10:37PM
Technically, you're wrong.
http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/elect.....-18-09.pdf
The penalty for violation of the act can be a fine up to 5,000 or up to five years in jail. Considering the discrepency between the varities of punishment, it's obvious that congress intended federal prosecutors to have wide latitude to determine the proper punishment based on the severity of the act. Here, we have a case where there is no evidence that any voters were actually intimidated. You don't need a vast, racist conspiracy permeating the justice department to come up reasons this Shabazz character got off lightly. There was simply no evidence of any harm. I'm sure these jokers look very dangerous to a white guy living in Colorado, but if you're used to seeing them in the neighborhood (standing on the corner ranting about whitey is literally what these guys do with their time when they're not ranting about whitey on fox news) it's probably a lot less scary. Don't you wonder why the Philly police, who responded to the scene, didn't arrest these guys if they were threatening violent harm to the voters?
gearjammer| 3.14.12 @ 6:54PM
We should also say vote integrity laws. We need to say stamp out clone voters-that is often a little lefty criminal like Fluke I'd bet, who votes in her home state and then where she goes to school. Alot of lefty white chicks do this-nobody can stand them.
Luis Stecca| 3.14.12 @ 1:59PM
Hey Red.. Eric "Nation of Cowards" Holder sold over 2000 guns to the Mexican dope gangs.. He did this knowing full well that those guns would be used in the commission of crimes, and by god he got what he wanted... 1 border patrol agent, 1 ICE agent and alot of innocent Mexicans have been murdered with those guns... Eric Holder has blood on his hands.. Eric Holder is a no-good rat MFer and he should be swinging from a yard iron !! Press 1 for english
The Bruce| 3.14.12 @ 4:08PM
DRed,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3FJE4qQbS0
“When you compare whatpeople endured in the South in the ‘60s to try to get the right to vote for African-Americans, to compare what people subjected to that with what happened in Philadelphia … to describe it in those terms I think does a great disservice to people who put their lives on the line for my people,” -- Eric Holder
Cynicon Implant| 3.14.12 @ 11:47AM
Here's my suggestion: next election, all of us pick one of our lefty neighbors to defraud of their vote. Go really early to the poll and tell the people working the polls that you are the neighbor, vote the opposite of the way they would have. Then get into a casual conversation -- "hey, you vote today? What? You're kidding! Maybe we need to tighten up the voting process -- ID's maybe." See what they say then.
This is illegal and sounds radical but I think we need to take a play out of their playbook... open their eyes.
The Bruce| 3.14.12 @ 11:22PM
CI,
I'm assuming you're kidding and that this is an attempt at humor but -- seriously -- advocating a federal crime isn't the way to go. It seems absurd to justify committing a crime, in order to make the case to the other side, in order to make your case for an honest election (or perhaps it's sheer irony, I can't decide).
Bob| 3.14.12 @ 12:06PM
And then we get airheads like Al Sharpton marching for "voter's rights". No one's voter rights are being taken away. Every citizen age 18 and older can vote in accordance with the Constitution. No state is trying to take that away. But how can you prove you're an eligible citizen at your polling place without identification? If it's hard for hispanics to get a state ID, maybe it's because they're undocumented immigrants, in which case they're not citizens and they're not qualified to vote. It's the law, Mr Holder, law that you're supposed to follow, uphold, and defend.
No, the ones who actually have trouble with getting identification are Mickey Mouse and friends, and all the dead voters still on voter registration rolls around the country. Can't produce identification if you're imaginary, or dead.
The Bruce| 3.14.12 @ 4:13PM
Bob,
Trying to use logic on liberals about this issue is about as useful as pissing into the wind or up a flag pole.
Besides, they WANT illegals voting in the election, for two reasons:
1) They know illegals vote Democrat
2) They think illegals should have the right to vote (because of reason #1).
Paul from SA| 3.14.12 @ 12:08PM
So... white people don't have to show id to vote, just blacks and hispanics?
Or does the law apply equally to all races and people?
They should require all Democrats to show ID as they commit 99.99% of all voter and registration fraud.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 12:09PM
For those who are interested, in October I interviewed Christian Adams on my former radio show (I have a different show now):
http://rossputin.com/blog/back.....er-23-2011
I also interviewed Christian several days earlier as I filled in for Michael Brown on Denver's 850 KOA:
http://www.850koa.com/cc-commo....._17099.mp3
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 12:16PM
FYI, the specific discussion of voter fraud is in Segment 4 of my October interview.
http://www.rossputin.com/backb.....3/seg4.mp3
tadcf| 3.14.12 @ 12:42PM
If these ID bill were really a means of lessening the potential of voter fraud, they'd probably be advocated equally by Republicans and Democrats.
If the Republicans want to convince me of their good intentions, they would 1) Make the cost of IDs free---instead of charge as much as $20 for them; 2) Offer free transportation to and from the facility where people have to go to get the IDs, if they can't get there on their own--for as many times as they have to go; 3) Help everyone to get proper documentation required to obtain an ID---birth certificate, social security card, etc.---and make date that ruling goes into effect with a reasonable grace period to obtain appropriate ID; require everyone to obtain and present same voter ID---no more accepting fishing licenses, but not student ID; 4) Finally, microchip every voter with ID, so we don't have this problem again.
dcod| 3.14.12 @ 12:58PM
What a perfect Socialist knee-jerk response, and a great reminder of why there's no compromise possible between those Americans interested in preserving the nation in accordance with the Constitution, and those who want to first fleece, then reduce to beggary, then enslave the former.
Idiot: the country is beyond broke, in debt $15T, largely because of kleptocratic jackals you voted for, and due to big government Republicans who behaved in like manner (GWB, for instance, and his father). The solution to voter fraud cannot be to "make" more things that are never free, "free" by your well-intentioned dictatorship...is $20 really that hard to come up with? Bus fare? On election day, amongst Dem-leaning districts? Please...ACORN, DNC operatives, etc. hand out cash, cigarettes, etc. routinely (see, e.g., Milwaukee), I don't think the Demon lowlife voters need any more handouts.
And I like the class snobbery denigration of "fishing licenses." Any idea how one gets a fishing license? Clue: you need a drivers license in that same state, or a drivers license from another state, in which case, you get a non-resident fishing license. But how would you know that? You've never obtained any food from a source other than the local Whole Paycheck Arugula counter. Assmonkey. Why don't you join the Demon welfare-support brigades yourself this coming election day--use your own money for something, for a change, rather than advocating that the government force more out of us at gunpoint, to serve your own purposes.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 1:33PM
Look at Rhode Island for one example of Democrats passing Voter ID.
http://thevotingnews.com/state.....oston-com/
As John Fund pointed out in the video I linked to above, it is at the national level that leftists fight against the laws because they want to be able to steal elections.
RJ| 3.14.12 @ 2:42PM
I recommend John's book, "Stealing Elections" for a good description of the problem. Election fraud is as problem in America. A republican form of government that fails to run honest elections is illegitimate.
DRed| 3.14.12 @ 3:59PM
Sigh. This is nonsense. They protest against these laws because it's good political theater. They get to call republicans racists, or anti-immigrant, and the Republicans get to call the Democrats racists who are trying to steal elections. It's politics. Both sides are pandering to their base.
I've gone through your proof of election stealing, Ross. Assuming everything you sent me is true, most of the illegality you showed me wouldn't have been cured by requiring ID at a polling place. If you're worried, for example, about people abusing the absentee ballot process, I'm not sure what requiring ID at a voting place would do to cure that. Which reinforces my belief that this is just political theater, not an actual effort to solve a real problem.
Jack London| 3.14.12 @ 5:38PM
It's much worse than 'political theater' - the voter ID meme is just one part of a concerted GOP strategy over many years to disenfranchise Dem-leaning populations. The mistake is to look at in isolation from this strategy, which led to Florida, GW Bush and disaster for our country, of course.
Ross Kaminsky | 3.14.12 @ 5:56PM
Look at the issues of illegal aliens voting, and of dead people voting.
That said, I agree that there are even bigger voter fraud issues than this -- and the left fights against those reforms as well, such as cleaning voter roles of dead people, or cleaning voter roles in counties with more registered voters than residents.
In short, the left wants to have the infrastructure in place (as John Fund put it) to steal an election if they decide that an election is going to be very close and worth stealing.
Jack London| 3.14.12 @ 6:30PM
I think your incredible dishonesty in trying to equate 'dead people voting' with the systematic measures to eliminate as many black and Hispanic voters as possible casts deep shame over you. I'm sure you know of the NAACP report, Defending Democracy: confronting modern barriers to voting rights in America, but choose to deliberately fan hate here instead. If you'd stuck to your mad economic articles at least the net would have been spared this shameful excursion into racist pandering.
http://naacp.3cdn.net/37b93ce1.....rsyxvb.pdf
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 7:33PM
The only ones who should be ashamed are you stinking liberals who will do anything in order to steal elections.
But, I forgot, stinking liberals don't have any shame. After all, you guys spent almost a year defending Bubba "The Rapist" Clinton against charges of which he was completely guilty.
Perverts.
Jack London| 3.14.12 @ 7:49PM
Read it and try playing at being an adult.
http://naacp.3cdn.net/37b93ce1.....rsyxvb.pdf
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 11:25PM
The NAALCP? Really?
They're as corrupt as the democrat party!
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
What's next? Are going to quote a study from the National Hemp Association to confirm that ganja is good for you?
You're the one who needs to grow-up, Jack Moscow.
Jack London| 3.15.12 @ 3:52AM
The report is referenced and makes compelling reading, but you're too bigoted to even try it. Here’s a part about voter fraud:
Instances of in-person voter fraud are extraordinarily rare. In Ohio, for example, a statewide survey of votes cast in
2002 and 2004 found that out of more than 9,000,000 voters, there were four instances of voter fraud.
214
In fact, there
are far more reported UFO sightings than reports of impersonation at the polls, with a grand total of nine suspected
fraudulent votes that could have been prevented by restrictive photo ID laws since 2000—a period in which over 400
million votes were cast in general elections alone.
215
With in-person electoral fraud occurring at a rate of 0.000002%,
an individual is more likely to be struck by lightning than to impersonate another voter at the polls.
216
This absence of voter impersonation makes sense. Not only is voter fraud an extremely inefficient way to influence
the outcome of an election, but federal law already provides a hefty deterrent: for each act of in-person impersonation
fraud in a federal election, the perpetrator risks five years in prison and a $10,000 fine, in addition to any penalties
imposed under state law.
217
Noncitizens face possible deportation.
When it comes to the false rationale that photo ID measures also combat fraudulent noncitizen voting, the myth is
even more clear: there is no evidence whatsoever that any noncitizen has ever risked the considerable criminal sanctions associated with fraudulent voting, nor would a noncitizen risk the even greater sanction of being deported.
218
It
makes no sense that a noncitizen—or, the particular target of the right wing: an undocumented immigrant—would try
to purposely cast a fraudulent vote. Indeed, even in the rare recorded instances in which noncitizens have knowingly
registered or voted, investigations have shown that these individuals did so only because they mistakenly believed that
they were eligible to register or vote.
Nick| 3.15.12 @ 12:16PM
It doesn't matter how often it happens. The fact is, by your own admission, it does happen. I gave DRed three well-documented cases of voter-fraud, above. Why don't you want to do anything about it? Is it because you have convinced yourself that the GOP makes phony phone calls, so, it's okay for democrats to cheat as well?
This is why you guys are playing with fire. When enough people no longer have faith in the system, we truly will look like a banana-republic. Each side will use the ends-justify-the-means to steal elections. This usually involves guns.
And by the way, why is it bigoted to criticize the NAALCP? You need to go look-up the word bigot. I don't think it means what you think it does.
From the Desk of Media Matters| 3.15.12 @ 12:16PM
Brian "Jack London" Cutteridge,
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Stop embarrassing us.
You idiot.
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From the Desk of Media Matters| 3.14.12 @ 11:26PM
Brian "Jack London" Cutteridge,
Stop embarrassing us.
We have legal troubles enough as it is, which, ironically is nothing compared to yours.
Eh?
Even our other bottom rung MM mindless parrots know all anyone has to do is check out the link at NAACP, the National Association for the Advancement of Caucasian People, that has highlights of the documentary on CET, Caucasian Entertainment Television, that are the focus of hearings by the CCC, the Congressional Caucasian Caucus.
Even our other bottom rung MM mindless parrots know better than to wonder where all these racists were during the November 2008 election.
You will not be allowed in our MM offices any more; you still smell like dog ass.
You idiot.
Stop embarrassing us.
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Nick| 3.14.12 @ 1:42PM
tadcf,
[...] 2) Offer free transportation to and from the facility where people have to go to get the IDs, if they can't get there on their own--for as many times as they have to go [...]."
If they can't get the facility to get the identification, how are they going to get to the voting-booth?
The voter-ID is free under the Texas law, by the way. I believe all the states that have passed voter-ID laws have provisos for free identification. But, I could be wrong, I haven't researched it thoroughly.
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 1:43PM
Oops! That should be: "If they can't get TO the facility [...]."
PecosPete| 3.14.12 @ 2:25PM
"A study of Lyndon B. Johnson provides new evidence that the 36th President stole his first election to the United States Senate, in 1948." Published by the New York Times, February 11, 1990.
ABNCP| 3.14.12 @ 2:45PM
Ross great piece. The trolls hate it but they always hate anything that resembles common sense. Holder lies about why the DOJ is doing this, purportedly to prevent minorities from being disenfranchised , but the reality is that he is trying to capture minority block votes thru fraud in order to help get his boss reelected. Holder has a long record of manipulating facts to suit his requirements, to advance Progressive agendas and to cover his ass.
However, this is only the latest act of malfeasance this venal corrupt man has committed. Let's take a look at his history.
He was the Deputy Attorney General under Clinton and he engineered Clinton's pardon of the members of FLAN, a Puerto Rican terrorest group.
He was the Deputy Attorney General under Clinton who engineered the Marc Rich pardon.
He advised Obama to close Guantanamo Bay without even examining the feasibility of doing so.
Then Obama suffered the indiginity of having a Democrat controlled Senate block funds to close it by 90 to 6.
Holder's next idiocy was to recommend release classifed Justice Department memos on the CIA terrorist interrogation program. It didn't matter that five CIA Directors including Leon Panetta Obama's choice as CIA director all objected to Holder's action. After two years of wasted money, resources and needless controversy Holder came up empty.
Then came Holders order to read Christmas Day bomber Umar Farouok Abdulmutallab a miranda warning after just 30 minutes of questoning. He did that without consulting any high level intelligence or national security officials.
Holder then came up with the outrageous idea to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed the other 9/11 plotters in federal court in New York city. In the face of overwhelming national backlash Obama and Holder were forced to backtrack and resume military trials in Guantananmo.
Then Holder thought it was a great idea to withdraw the law suit against the New Black Panther Party. His direction that violations by black perpetrators be treated differently that those of whites in on its face racism.
How about Holder suing the State of Arizonas immigration law 1070 before he even read it. He actualy said he was relying on T.V. and media coverage to make his decision that's incredible. I mean you just can't make this stuff up.
Fast and Furious. Over a year after a U.S. Border Patrol agent is gunned down by a weapon linked to this botched program, Holder and his DOJ have spent more time trying to cover their asses than providing any accountability for this catastrophe.
Let's recap this mans record as Attorney General.
He failed to consult the intelligence community before giving the Christmas bomber a Miranda warning, he failed to read the memos in which career prosecutors explained why CIA prosections were a legal dead end, he failed to consult New York officials about trying KSM in their city, he failed to conduct even a cursory review before pushing Obama to announce the closure of Guantanamo, he failed to read the Arizona immigration before publicly opposing it, he failed his duty as Attorney General to supervise the Fast and Furious program and shut it down. Now this is a record of gross incompetence by an Attorney General. Or is it evidence of the ideology Holder is engaged in to fundamentally change America?
Holder is a very dangerous man in a p0siton of great power. Holder and Obama have to be removed from power so we can start the rebuild of America into the Fortress of Freedom it was created to be.
Oldefarte| 3.14.12 @ 2:46PM
As usual Ross is absolutely correct in his original editorial and also in that, although they may be true, racially insulting comments will not be helpful in removing Obama [and correspondingly Holder as well] from office. As most of us well know [from the commentary here]....IT'S THE DEMOCRATS, STUPIDS! The sad facts are that Obama was elected president, that he chose Holder as AG [after same was involved in the Marc Rich/Clinton controversy], that Democrats seek to nullify voter ID laws so that they can manipulate voting numbers in their political favor, that this DOJ is illegally going after states that legally legislate their voters' wishes with state immigration laws, that this Interior Dept is withholding oil drilling permits to prevent domestic oil production, that this president lies and is able to camoflage his untruthfulness [as evidenced by 11/4/08], that the MSM is completely filled with journalism schooled ultra-liberals that effectively cover up the truth in their reported news stories, that correspondingly this country's legal system is filled with ultra-liberal law school graduates which eventually become benched judges who decide in favor of non-mainstream opinions of cases, that this country's federal government is [and has previously been for decades] controlled by liberal Democrats which inflict their progressiveism upon our society and the outnumbered conservative sector is unable to prevent same, that the supposedly victories conservatives accompolished through the elections of various Republicans were reversed and possibly nullified by the recent elections of Democrats Clinton and Obama, etc. With all of the aforementioned in consideration, it's now a question of how pi*&ed; off are the conservatives and the taxpayers of this country and are they willing to do whatever and to go the distance in uniting and combining in order to take back their country that they built, they paid for, they defended militarily etc? The answer will be seen in November, and if they are not so determined, this country will die financially and economically quickly thereafter. This upcoming election is like no previous election in its importance. this is not a USUAL election. this is the last chance to save this nation, since the momentum of these liberal/progressive elements in this country to build upon their ultimate success of 11/4/08 in establishing their out-of-the-political-closet president with granting him another four years in which to completely convert this nation to their radical agenda will become fulfilled if not stopped in November!!!!!!!!!
Oldefarte| 3.14.12 @ 3:08PM
As usual, Dick Armey said it much better than I could have ever hoped to:
'...Armey: Santorum Could Win Nomination on Second Ballot Wednesday, March 14, 2012 02:03 PM By: Paul Scicchitano and Ashley Martella
Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey tells Newsmax.TV that he believes it is possible — though unlikely — that GOP presidential hopeful Rick Santorum will win the party’s nomination if the convention goes to a second ballot in Tampa.
“I think, quite frankly, it is most likely that Gov. Romney will have the delegates when the convention opens, and win the nomination on the first ballot,” Armey said in an exclusive interview on Tuesday prior to Santorum’s double wins in Alabama and Mississippi. “If, in fact, he doesn’t, remember on the second ballot, it’s 100 percent up for grabs and it would seem to me that Rick has some possibility of winning on a second ballot. I just frankly do not expect it to get there.”
The Texas Republican, chairman of FreedomWorks and a patriarch of the tea party movement, said that the most-likely scenario is that former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney will lock up the GOP nomination on the first try.
If Romney does secure the nomination, he may face a tough sell with voters on the notion that he opposes Obamacare, given his support for healthcare reform in Massachusetts.
“Well it strikes me that it would. I mean I’ve puzzled over this for a long time. I don’t know how Gov. Romney can go after President Obama on this,” declared Armey. “And this is a very, very, very big hot-button issue with the American people at large. It would be a real debilitation, I think, to Mitt Romney if he finds himself incapable of making a case because of his own record on this subject.”
Armey, who served in the House from 1985 to 2003 and is the co-author of “Give Us Liberty: A Tea Party Manifesto,” accused Democrats of promoting election fraud by their continued opposition to voter ID laws such as the one in his Lone Star State.
“My own view is the Democratic Party has been largely invested in voter fraud for years and years — and anything that would make it more difficult for them to get the dead vote out, I think, obviously concerns them for their re-election chances.”
The Obama administration earlier this week blocked Texas’s new law requiring voters to show government-issued photo identification at the polls.
In a letter to state officials, the Justice Department claimed that the measure may disproportionately harm Hispanics. The department in December blocked a similar law in South Carolina and both Texas and South Carolina have filed suit in federal court in Washington seeking permission to enforce their photo ID requirements.
Armey said that he has always taken his driver’s license to the polls. “I’ve been voting in Texas for a lot of years and I’ve always brought my driver’s license with me, identified myself,” he insisted.
In the absence of voter ID requirements, there is nothing to prevent fraud. “What’s to stop me from walking in any number of different precincts and voting several times? It seems like such a simple thing to ask a voter to do, to present an ID card,” said Armey. “We do so for so many other things in life.”
Armey said he believes that the tea party will support the eventual GOP nominee — given the prospect of a second term for President Barack Obama, but the White House may not be its primary focus.
“My guess is the tea party is going to be active and enthusiastic in that race. But we’re going to stay more focused on the House and Senate races,” acknowledged Armey, who described Obama’s re-election as the “most frightening” possibility for tea partiers.
“But we also understand we’re not going to have a reliable innovative small-government conservative in the White House and therefore we’re focused on let’s get a conservative majority of creative people at the core in both the House and the Senate,” Armey said. “We set the legislative agenda through their energies and their creative thinking, and then we either fence a Republican president into that agenda, or we fence President Obama out because he could never subscribe to it.”
Armey said the House and Senate races are key to turning the country around.
“When we take a look at the success we had in getting to a balanced budget in the mid '90s, it was during the time when the legislative agenda was being driven by the House,” he recalled. “President Clinton saw the way the tide was moving and he got on board. For example, on welfare reform, even after vetoing it three times he then finally signed it. But when he retired from the presidency he said it was the best idea he had.”
While Clinton was able to embrace some conservative ideas for the good of the country, it’s not clear that Obama could — or would — do the same.
“Whether or not Barack Obama can get to where President Clinton got to, I don’t know, but the fact of the matter is whether it’s President Clinton or President Barack Obama in the White House — or a more, let’s just say, orthodox Republican, not so reliably small government conservative Republican — it’s very important that the legislative agenda [is set] in the House and Senate as it was in the early '90s.”.....'
Indy| 3.14.12 @ 3:26PM
Just read this at rightscoop
"The League of Women Voters of Wisconsin Education Network filed suit in Dane County Circuit Court in October. Lester Pines, an attorney with the firm Cullen Weston Pines & Bach who is working on the case, told The Huffington Post at the time that their argument against the voter ID law was quite simple: It violates the provision in the Wisconsin constitution that determines who can vote.
Niess agreed with this argument:
Article III is unambiguous, and means exactly what it says. It creates both necessary and sufficient requirements for qualified voters. Every United States citizen 18 years of age or older who resides in an election district in Wisconsin is a qualified elector in that district, unless excluded by duly enacted laws barring certain convicted felons or adjudicated incompetents/partially incompetents.
The government may not disqualify an elector who possesses those qualifications on the grounds that the voter does not satisfy additional statutorily-created qualifications not contained in Article III, such as a photo ID.
He added that a “government that undermines the very foundation of its existence — the people’s inherent, pre-constitutional right to vote — imperils its legitimacy as a government by the people, for the people, and especially of the people.” …
Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen (R) he plans to appeal the decision."
Wow...appeal for sure but the Dems get what they want, photo ID won't be in place for 2012
http://www.therightscoop.com/w.....itutional/
cicero| 3.14.12 @ 4:02PM
The Progressives are in mortal terror that their time has come and gone. They know that they can no longer win a national election without fraud, and are trying to translate Chicago tactics to the country as a whole. When you analyse the numbers, they lose. The media has been trying to convince the population that the majority of the people are government dependent. However, the vast majority of the folks that receive government checks are Soc. Sec. recipients, and they do not consider themselves on welfare, or receiving something for nothing. They recall all those years when 15% of their wages were deleted from their checks to pay for what they now receive.
The Progressives need to flood the ballot boxes with whatever is possible. If they can get through one more cycle, they will be in a position to bankrupt the country. At that point, all of the domestic institutions wll be overwhealmed, and chaos will ensue. That, after all, has always been the stated purpose of community organizers, since the inception of the movement in the late 60s and early 70s. If they lose in this cycle, they are through, because all of their carefully crafted houses of cards will be collapsed, and even the weak kneed Republicans won't have any excuses for not undoing the harmful legislation.
Holder is a sympton, not a cause. He will be gone in a few months. The real job will be the rebuilding of our institutions. This will be like cleaning out the Augean stables.
old progrmr| 3.14.12 @ 4:21PM
If the DOJ prevails in the courts, what do you think will happen if I refuse to show photo I.D. the next time I attempt to board a plane? What will that policeman do when I refuse to present my photo I.D. driver's license when requested? Oh, I know what the leftist courts will say.....These requirements for a photo I.D. are privileges, not rights, like the RIGHT to vote. As difficult as it is to accept, the DOJ is going to get away with this abuse of States Rights. Hell, the next step will be that since voting is a RIGHT, there will be no need to register at all; simply just walk into any polling place, ask for a ballot and vote. If they can't ask for a photo I.D. evidently a voter needs no I.D. whatsoever. We are seeing the total destruction of our Representative Republic and the end of government by and for the people.
Indy| 3.14.12 @ 5:23PM
Now more than ever we need strong AGs and Governors to step up and sue, it won't happen in my state. SCOTUS has already ruled in GA and IN, this should be a no brainer.
Every stop at my pharmacy to buy Sudafed I raise this issue, not only do they ask for photo ID, they log it. The pharmacist gives me that sheepish grin, he gets it.
For everyone concerned about this, I hope more than posting comments here, we are all engaged with True the Vote and volunteering to be poll watchers.
Ronald Ackenberry| 3.14.12 @ 6:14PM
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Is your argument then more intrusive government is justified based on the "War on Sinusitis Victims?"
The Bruce| 3.14.12 @ 6:50PM
What I took from his post is that people need ID for many things in their everyday lives.
The idea that there are roving bands of people without ID seems patently untrue.
Just my two cents.
Indy| 3.14.12 @ 9:18PM
The Bruce, you are correct, thanks for the sanity check!
Indy| 3.14.12 @ 9:17PM
The point I was making is to claim that requiring a photo ID puts a burden on anyone (the Left typically list the elderly, minorities, college students and poor) is simply not true. If that were the case those groups cannot buy allergy / cold and pain meds, etc? If it is so difficult to get a free photo ID, then an alternative is to vote absentee.
Ronald Ackenberry| 3.14.12 @ 6:23PM
Apples and oranges among other logic faults.
Indeed the TSA has no lawful right to demand ID. Ask them next time you are in line to cite the statute. They can't and won't.
At one time freedom to travel among the states was considered a Constitutional right. (Think about Ohio charging a tax to pass through to Kentucky, etc.)
My understanding is that you may refuse to show ID in the TSA gauntlet at which time they take you to the back room for intense "screening" probably including intimate genitalia groping, etc.
So, the choice becomes, show ID or have your crotch squeezed? Schnell!
Is that what we want?
Is that right?
Is that justification for mandatory pristine ID to vote?
Ronald Ackenberry| 3.14.12 @ 6:26PM
"They know that they can no longer win a national election without fraud"
That's absolute and total nonsense. You cannot begin to prove that. Not even close.
How it is proof to me the "War on Voters" is some wing dog whistle issue and thus impervious to facts, logic or even common sense.
ps:
Who got the most votes in FLA in 2004: Bush or Kerry?
Ronald Ackenberry| 3.14.12 @ 6:09PM
Vote Fraud related to ID is essentially non-existent.
For example, "The Republican National Lawyers Association (RNLA) in an attempt to discredit a NAACP report this week on the lack of voter fraud evidence has bolstered the view that there is no need for voter ID laws, imposed by many states. The RNLA produced data showing 46 states and various convictions for voter fraud. Presumably by their absence, 4 states and the District of Columbia had no convictions.
Viewing the data for the period 2000-2010, the report by its own account shows there is no link between voter fraud in states and the need for stricter voter ID laws."
Source
However, it's been shown time and again raising the bar for ever more pristine ID absolutely impacts the poor, elderly, students and minorities. Thus, onerous ID laws disenfranchise eligible voters and is a legitimate target of the DoJ whose job it is to protect voting rights.
With that said, I would definitely like to see some action regarding alleged VOTER REGISTRATION fraud. I don't get it to be honest: turning in a forged, bogus or incomplete FORM does not translate into an actual person showing up at the poll to vote w/o good ID.
In fact, the most serious actors of vote fraud, for example, now convicted felon, Indiana Secretary of State, Charley White-R, have impeccable ID.
Meanwhile, if someone made an honest mistake by, for example, not completely filling in all the boxes on the form, so what?
Fix the form so it's right and MOVE ON!
This R-Regressive "War on Voters" has the distinct tone of another winger dog whistle issue i.e. "States Rights". Is the motivation for their wrong headed and plain factually wrong battle merely to further the cause of white superiority, ...again?
Maybe so.
WestHoustonGeo| 3.14.12 @ 6:16PM
This is about two things:
1. Hussein wants to punish Texas for being successfull and free.
2. Hussein wants to provide the democrats with an ufettered channel for voter fraud.
I will pause now while a liberal abortionist heterophobe calls me racist.
inveteratepartisan| 3.14.12 @ 6:31PM
This is getting ridiculous. This administration knows no bounds and will stop at nothing to steal an election.
Angel Amador| 3.14.12 @ 6:57PM
What happes if the states in question ignore Holder? I don't know how he is going to enforce his mandate.
Osamas Pajamas| 3.14.12 @ 9:53PM
Holder will send in armed Federal marshals and troops to steal the ballot boxes and "count" their contents, while the corrupt, complicit, compliant, bootlicking, lickspittle, sycophantic Democrat-captured media, cheer them on --- in the name of "democracy."
Indy| 3.14.12 @ 9:23PM
Lots of posts today on Voter ID, here's another from NRO worth reading -
"Nearly a decade ago, I regularly carpooled to work with my left-of-center neighbor, who had just emigrated from Indiana to Wisconsin. One election day, we decided to hit the polling place before work — but as we got halfway there, she jerked herself upright. “I forgot my driver’s license,” she said, worriedly. I reassured her that she didn’t need to show photo ID to vote. She paused. “That’s crazy,” she said.
Several years later, another prominent liberal would agree with my neighbor’s assessment of the voter verification process. In Crawford v. Marion County Election Board (2008), U.S. Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens would uphold the Indiana photo-ID law (although his explanation was slightly less succinct than my neighbor’s.) In his six to three majority opinion, Stevens upheld Indiana’s voter-identification law, noting that “public confidence in the integrity of the electoral process has independent significance, because it encourages citizen participation in the democratic process.”
When Stevens retired in 2010, President Barack Obama hailed him as an “impartial guardian” of the law, saying the “brilliant” justice had “worn the judicial robe with honor and humility.”
Yet in Crawford, Stevens had apparently been too “impartial” for Obama’s tastes. On Monday, Obama’s Justice Department, headed up by beleaguered Attorney General Eric Holder, blocked a Texas voter-ID law, arguing the statute would disproportionately affect Hispanic voters. (In December, Holder’s department stopped implementation of a similar law in South Carolina.)
If Stevens’ opinion in Crawford marked a high point for “brilliance,” “honor,” and “humility,” then Obama’s DOJ is proactively eschewing those virtues. All the issues of racial vote suppression in Texas were hashed out in Crawford, which the Obama administration is now willing to defenestrate in favor of its own agenda.
For instance, DOJ has concluded that between 603,892 and 795,955 registered Texas voters do not have either a driver’s license or state-issued identification. According to numbers submitted by the state, up to 10.8 percent of Hispanic voters lack acceptable photo ID, nearly double the rate of non-Hispanics.
But Stevens drew the distinction between voters who are unable to obtain proper identification and those who were simply unwilling. “For most voters who need them, the inconvenience of making a trip to the BMV (Bureau of Motor Vehicles), gathering the required documents, and posing for a photograph surely does not qualify as a substantial burden on the right to vote, or even represent a significant increase over the usual burdens of voting,” Stevens wrote. He later added that “we cannot conclude that the statute imposes ‘excessively burdensome requirements’ on any class of voters.”
Further, Stevens dismissed the dire statistics about photo-ID-free voters submitted in the lower courts, noting that their accuracy had “not been tested in the trial court.” Previously, federal district court judge Sarah Evans Barker had found the estimates “utterly incredible and unreliable.”
Yet, according to Stevens’s opinion, even the “heavier burden” some groups face in obtaining a photo ID is mitigated by the fact that voters in both Indiana and Texas are allowed to cast provisional ballots. Having ten days following the election to prove who you are doesn’t pose a constitutional problem, according to the Court.
Stevens even notes that the federal government is, in part, to blame for the need for a photo-ID requirement. In the early 1990s, the federal “Motor Voter” law began automatically registering everyone to vote who applied for or renewed their driver’s licenses. Portions of the act limited states’ abilities to remove names from those lists; thus, voting districts were stuck with inflated voter rolls, replete with names of people who had died or moved. Thus, data collected by the Election Assistance Committee in 2004 indicated that 19 of 92 Indiana counties had registration totals exceeding 100 percent of the 2004 voting-age population.
Of course, in the absence of a photo-ID requirement, once a name is on a registration list, it is fair game to anyone that wants to rent it for an election. (This is in contrast to someone wanting to rent a DVD, in which case they actually have to show some identification.) And it is this type of potential fraud that Stevens recognized as entirely possible in the absence of a photo-ID law, saying “the interest in orderly administration and accurate recordkeeping provides a sufficient justification for carefully identifying all voters participating in the election process.”
The alternative is, to put it in my neighbor’s parlance, “crazy.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/.....-schneider
Roand Ackenberry| 3.14.12 @ 9:36PM
I think it's crazy that so called conservatives and in particular libertarians are so adamant that citizens be denied their right to vote absent stringent ID requirements.
I think it's crazy that fiscal conservatives want to build yet another expensive layer of bureaucracy based on issuing and tracking free ID cards.
I think it's crazy that no matter the facts or truth so-called conservatives insist there is rampant vote fraud that would be fixed by producing the National ID Card quality ID to vote.
I think it's crazy that conservatives dare use the word crazy without see themselves in the very same word.
I think it's crazy that conservatives are so willing to be docile sheep when it comes to giving up their inalienable rights.
The part that's not crazy of course is ID Laws suppress the vote which is to the advantage of so-called conservatives.
Nick| 3.14.12 @ 11:18PM
I know it's crazy for stinking liberals to defend the evil of voter-fraud.
But, then again, whoever said that liberals were sane?
The Bruce| 3.14.12 @ 11:29PM
Ronald, I think you're crazy. And I haven't seen a single individual here advocate a National ID Card. Everyone here already has an ID issued from their state.
The Bruce| 3.14.12 @ 11:44PM
I wish someone had brought it up, though, if only to watch the response from Post American.
Indy| 3.15.12 @ 7:21AM
"I think it's crazy that fiscal conservatives want to build yet another expensive layer of bureaucracy based on issuing and tracking free ID cards."
Really, every state already has a DMV, what new bureaucracy is needed?
"I think it's crazy that no matter the facts or truth so-called conservatives insist there is rampant vote fraud that would be fixed by producing the National ID Card quality ID to vote."
Who is advocating for a National ID card to vote? No conservative wants that.
Voter ID does not suppress votes, GA had an increase in voters after they passed their law which was upheld by the courts.
Indy| 3.14.12 @ 9:38PM
• "More than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters.
• Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.
• About 12 million records have incorrect addresses, meaning either the voters moved, or errors in the information make it unlikely any mailings can reach them."
http://www.pewcenteronthestate.....5899370604
As they say in Chicago, vote early and vote often!
Osamas Pajamas| 3.14.12 @ 9:48PM
All the Democrats are really saying is that illegal voters are far more likely to vote for Democrats than for Republicans, and, therfore, these illegal voters and other election-fraud criminals must be allowed to operate freely and cancel the votes of honest voters.
This is why I advocate violent, armed revolution against the Democrat party. Kill all of them.
Did I leave anything out?
Roand Ackenberry| 3.14.12 @ 9:53PM
Now THAT'S CRAZY!
matt | 3.14.12 @ 10:01PM
ummm.. i live in mississippi, and have not had to show an ID... so black voter turnout could not have gone up, since the law is not in place yet...
and in Texas didn't they choose not to give out free state IDs... In Mississippi they chose to give a free ID option so it wouldn't be a poll tax... just an inconvenience tax.
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shipley130| 3.16.12 @ 12:49PM
The reason why America is in such disarray is that the liberals have been subverting rule of law so much that it is creeping into our everyday lives.