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The Little Sisters of Limousine Liberalism
How much is Sr. Carol Keehan worth to the pro-Obamacare Catholic Health Association? Answer: $962,467.
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Keehan must chuckle at the cluelessness and doctrinal timidity of the bishops. The USCCB still can’t decide if “Catholic” pols whipping the Church in America on issues like abortion and gay marriage should be denied Communion. This is too tough a call for the USCCB, so no uniform policy exists. (In a typical comment from the USCCB crowd, Cardinal Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C. has said that he won’t withhold Communion from Nancy Pelosi, as that “style” of confrontation makes him uncomfortable.)
While the bishops dither, Keehan ruthlessly organizes the Little Sisters of Leftism for Obama’s reelection. Her task is a little trickier this year but she could still pull it off.
In 2008, many bishops, priests, and nuns voted for Obama and they probably will again. At the end of the day, they are Democrats first and Catholics second. Besides, they agree with Obama on issues like birth control. They, too, view the Church’s teachings as passé.
Indeed, Saul Alinsky couldn’t have organized Obama’s Fifth Column within the Church any better than Sister Keehan and company.
“Obama is not a pro-abortion president,” Giovanni Maria Vian, editor of L’Osservatore Romano, said a while back, while former papal household theologian Cardinal Georges Cottier congratulated Obama for his “humble realism.”
Catholic Washington Post columnist E.J. Dionne, who got Keehan’s memo and is back on the team (not that he was ever off it) after Obama’s “compromise,” enjoys seeing traditional Catholics in America get their wires crossed with ostensible allies at the USCCB and Vatican. The “Vatican clearly views Obama through a broader prism,” said Dionne after the remarks of Vian and Cottier.
Santa Fe Archbishop Michael Sheehan told the openly heretical National Catholic Reporter that he supported Notre Dame’s decision to confer an honorary degree upon Barack Obama and could not understand the “big scene” of protests about it. Asked by NCR if other bishops agreed with him, he replied, “Of course, the majority.”
He declared that “we don’t want to isolate ourselves from the rest of America by our strong views on abortion and the other things.”
The rise of the Tea Party frankly scares these bishops. Nervous headlines they didn’t dare run in their diocesan newspapers after the election of Barack Obama suddenly appeared after the House Dems got clocked in November of 2010. Catholic San Francisco ran a headline after the election that read: “Social Justice Agenda in Jeopardy in US.”
America magazine, the Jesuit journal of dissent, also found the Tea Party-inspired results troubling. Steve Schneck, director of the Institute for Policy Research & Catholic Studies at the Catholic University of America, wrote in a piece on its website that the Church’s “years of efforts in America to support public policies that reflect its moral vision were dealt a blow Tuesday evening.”
No doubt Obama will reassemble his “Catholic advisory committee” and continue to generate donations from Catholic colleges and universities. Last time around, the faculty at Jesuit Georgetown led all college faculties, religious and non-religious, in donations to Obama.
Several Jesuit schools joined Keehan in praising Obama for his HHS “compromise,” which was awfully big of them since they never needed it in the first place, given that they already hand out condoms and contraceptives to their students.
Obama’s 2008 Catholic advisory committee included such national co-chairs as Sr. Jamie Phelps, OP, professor of theology at Xavier University, and Sr. Catherine Pinkerton with the Congregation of St. Joseph. Surely, his 2012 one will be chaired by an even worthier champion — Sister Keehan, the Daughter of Charity worth close to a million bucks a year.
About the Author
George Neumayr, a contributing editor to The American Spectator, is co-author, with Phyllis Schlafly, of the new book, No Higher Power: Obama’s War on Religious Freedom.
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Rick| 2.16.12 @ 6:26AM
I was thinking that a more apt title for this piece would be "Sister Cromwell hits it big."
Timothy L. Pennell| 2.16.12 @ 8:51AM
"What does it profit a man (Or, in this case - A Lesbian Whore) to gain the whole $962,467, and lose his Immortal Soul?"
Why do bad things happen to good people? Why is it that The Rich get Richer? And, is their a Truer truth than: "The pursuit of Money, is the Root of all Evil".
Why are there so many JEWS in the ACLU? Why does a JEWISH Lawyer, represent an Islamist Jihadist? How can it be that the MUSLIM, in the Oval Office, has so much support from JEWS? Are they Stupid? Do they not know of his MUSLIM ties? His years in Muslim Schools, and Mosques, in Indonesia? His 20 Years in an Anti-Semites Hate Church? His long friendship with the JEW HATER from the "Mother Wheel" - Louis Farrakhan? His long friendship with the Uber Marxist, Jew Hating Domestic Terrorists - Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn? His relationships with the Black Panthers, and the P.L.O. Terrorist Recruiter - Khalid Rashidi?
How can this be?
Does this "Catholic/Christian" Broad know, who she's dealing with? I think she does. Does she know the story in the New Testament where JESUS goes out, in to the Desert, for 40 Days, and is TEMPTED by SATAN?
Why do so many Catholics vote for Democrats? Why do they stand with the ENEMIES of the Church? The ENEMIES of Christianity.
Abortion on demand. Pulling the BABY out by its' feet, until only the head is inside its' Mothers' Womb, and then SLICING the Baby's neck open, at the base of its' Skull, and Sucking its' BRAIN out. Teaching GAY SEX to 3rd Graders. Teaching "The Joys of Masturbation and Anal Sex", in the 3rd Grade. Gay Marriage. Gay Adoption. Free Needles. "If it feels good, do it."
This B*tch, is a Wolf in Sheep's Clothing. She is the kind of "Christian" that stood with the Communist Rebels, in South America, during the 70's and the 80's. She's the kind of "Sister" who marched with the KGB Funded Anti-War Protesters, in the 60's and 70's. She's the kind of Liberal Catholic who fought Ronald Reagan, every step of the way, in his efforts to bring down Totalitarian, GODLESS, Communism. And now she has thrown her lot in with a man who was SIRED by Evil. An Atheist/Communist Mother and a Muslim/Marxist/Whore Chasing Father, who Died DRUNK, in a Kenyan Gutter. She has thrown in with the BEAST.
"And he was given a MOUTH, to speak Haughty and Blasphemous words. And he was allowed to exercise authority for forty two months."
She is a Whore and a Harlot, who has sold her Soul to the Devil, for $962,467. Sold it to a man who, with every move he makes, brings Israel closer to Annihilation. Sold it to a man whom HAMAS believes, is their Deliverer. (Go to their Web Site) A man that, as we speak, is doing everything in his power, to Cripple this Country's ability to stand in the way of Evil. Only a Creature of Evil, would seek to bring our Nuclear Arsenal down to 300 Warheads, from 1,500, at a time when The Evil Empire in Russia is, once again, in the business of ARMING the Enemies of Light, and is in possession of 1,500 Nuclear Warheads of their own.
Only a Creature that was out to Destroy the Last Bastion of Freedom in the World, and the only Friend that Israel has, would reduce our Nuclear Stockpile to LESS than that of Communist Chine.
Only an Enemy of CHRIST, would seek to Cripple the only Military of the only Country in the World, that is standing in the way of all of the Armies of Darkness, that seek to press their Boots on to the Necks of every Free Man, Woman, and Child, in this World.
Revelation. Armageddon. The Beast. The Final Battle.
Even a Blind Man could see that all of the pieces are being put in to place.
This B*tch, is just one more Pawn on the Chess Board.
One more Useful Idiot, for the Forces of Darkness.
oldfart| 2.16.12 @ 9:15AM
Hey Tim - want to tell us how you really feel? Just joking - you are spot on with your analysis.
sparch| 2.16.12 @ 5:08PM
Tim,
"even a blind man could see " . You are correct. If there was ever evidence that satan does exist, look at the fruit of this presidential administration.
God help us all!
Jack in Wi.| 2.16.12 @ 8:23PM
Neumayr doesn't like Catholics who disagree with Catholic doctrine on sexuality. He and all his Catholic neocon buddies who disagree with Catholic Doctrine on Just War are just as wrong as those people. The war in Iraq and the proposed war in Iran do not come close to being just under Catholic doctrine.
To those who say that no Catholic should vote for the Democrats, I agree. But to equate the Republicans with something moral is a big reach. Goldwater, the Bush's, Rockefeller's and many other rich Republicans founded Planned Parenthood. Roe vs Wade was decided by 5 judges put on the Court by Republicans. Reagan signed the first easy abortion statute put on the books in 1967. In fact it was among the first things he did after being elected governor of California. Rockefeller signed a worse bill in New York soon after. It so happens those 2 states were the first to have a non white majority. The Republican Party has been a leader in the moral collapse of society.
The Republicans have held the White House for a majority of the last 32 years. What they have done with that offfice about protecting life in the womb is pathetic. Every other issue is more important then the murder of 3500 babies in the womb everyday. It is the reason 60 million aborted babies have been replaced with 60 million immigrants. Put not your faith in politicians but in Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Doug| 2.17.12 @ 6:21PM
I think your use of the word "analysis" is even more disturbing than the scrawl on an insane asylum wall that you were responding to.
Da Monk| 2.16.12 @ 9:51AM
Tim: Get thee to the psychiatryic ward. You have a problem. Discover why you are a ranting anti-Semite. Not only that you are anti-Catholic. You're a homophobic. I see from the time you sent your "missal" that it was almost 6:30a.m. What do you do all night, lie awake thinking of anti-Semitec/Catholic/ homophobic/ everthing remarks and become the first person to post your garbage. When will you have something positive to say, to anything about anybody. My personal opinion: YOU DON'T EVEN LIKE YOURSELF
Timothy L. Pennell| 2.16.12 @ 10:20AM
Anti-Semite? WTF are you talking about? I love the Jews. I don't equate all of the Jews with
Ya know what? Fck You.
I don't need to explain myself to a POS like you.
Think what you want. If I'm Anti anything? It's Anti - Dumb fcks like you, and your worthless opinions.
Now, GFY.
SeymourGlass| 2.16.12 @ 10:39AM
Tim, you're right. You don't have to explain yourself to us.
But - you will have to eventually explain yourself.
Rocker| 2.16.12 @ 10:48PM
Apparently, terrorizing people is what passes for masculinity in Timothy's mind.
Spymaster G.| 2.16.12 @ 10:27AM
Hey, Da Monkee...
Daily KOS called...They want their village idiot back.
Mike Rogers | 2.18.12 @ 6:58PM
Monk, You would only be correct if the Islamic Marxist I the white house were actually a Jew.
Tim is criticizing Christians In Name Only for the destruction they are causing to the garlic of our society.
BTW, is that moniker actually a reference to Rasputin?
JmsA| 2.16.12 @ 10:51AM
Thank you for telling it like it is, Mr. Pennell.
loulou| 2.16.12 @ 11:32AM
"Whore" was the thought that came to mind but I didn't have the nerve to post it. So thank you again, TLP!
She's a whore AND a fraud.
Franco| 2.16.12 @ 12:30PM
No. More. Sugar.
Todd S| 2.16.12 @ 2:20PM
Classic Timothy saying it as only he can. Da Monk, it was 8:51 and you are a moron.
darcy| 2.16.12 @ 7:06PM
She is an anti-Christ, standing in the place of Jesus and dictating to all that not God's will be done, but Satan's.
Walt| 2.17.12 @ 11:08AM
I must say, you covered the salient points well. It's interesting in that she is an old fart and, yet, refuses to even entertain the absolute fact that she will be dead very, very soon. And then.....eternity. Try to imagine eternity.......she's taking a helluva chance....one I wouldn't take for any amount of money, sex or glory. "To those much is given, much is expected". She is supposed to be a woman of faith. Therefore, given more than the "typical"person. How much will she be accountable for? I, of course, don't know nor can I or should I speculate. I'm just glad I'm not her. "The floor of Hell is covered with the bones of these....." Sobering consideration.
florin| 2.16.12 @ 8:02PM
The thing is this: as long as our Catholic Bishops permit those who stand against the Catholic Church publicly to be considered Catholics in good standing, nothing will change - nothing! Sebelius is becoming more and more arrogant - she is Obama's special pick. Pelosi publicly and consistently stands not only against the Bishops and the Church, but she arrogantly mocks the Bishops publicly and Pelosi, Obama and Sebelius and other publicly declare that the Bishops are divided on issues and they are right...despite the fact that P. John Paul, P. Benedict and Cardinal Burke have strongly declared that no Catholic politician or non-politician who publicly advances the abortion agenda and urges others to do the same - they should not receive Holy Communion. But, because the Bishops do not stand together with the Church on this, Pelosi, Sebelius, Biden and others continue to defy the Church and the Bishops...
Mac Rojo| 2.17.12 @ 8:54PM
Timothy: Well said .... oh so true .... she is a Gadarene AWK from the pits of hell working hard to destroy evil ... may she enjoy her eternal sulfur bath!
The Late George Appley| 2.16.12 @ 6:27AM
No Christian can be a Democrat, because the Democrat platform supports abortion and sodomy.
Timothy L. Pennell| 2.16.12 @ 6:54AM
Bingo.
Doctor Right.| 2.16.12 @ 10:41AM
I have friends at my VERY Conservative Church who are ardent supporters of Obama...
...it's maddening. They think that socialism is what Christianity is all about.
To justify this bizarre belief, they quote ACTS 2:44
"All the believers were together and had everything in common."
They are oblivious to the fact that this sharing was explicitly between fellow Christians in a small, tight-knit group, and also that it was explicitly VOLUNTARY.
I've tried telling them that socialism - the forceful confiscation of wealth from one group and arbitrary redistribution to another - is NOT Christianity. It's theft...but they don't get it.
I should add that these folks are also political vegetarians...BIG surprise, right?
This is what happens when people think with their emotions, and not their brains.
capatolistmom| 2.16.12 @ 11:28AM
Problem one, Obama is NOT a believer. He is a very devout Muslim and displays it every chance he gets. Lets see if he has an Easter message this year!!!! And what about those big charitable donations of Obama and Biden?? Biden was around - lets see $350.00 Your very conservative church is very hypocritical.
Janet Baker | 2.16.12 @ 12:14PM
Ah God we could wish he were a devout muslim!
Teaghan| 2.16.12 @ 12:40PM
If he does an Easter acknowledgment, it will be a lie, like everything else that comes out of his mouth.
I would rather he just stay away from the cameras.
Doctor Right| 2.16.12 @ 12:48PM
"Your very conservative church is very hypocritical."
Ummmm...what?!?!?
Sorry, but what do you know about the VERY Conservative Church I attend???
We're actually very generous. We don't need the government to pick our pockets to force us to help the poor.
Secondly, I'm NOT a Catholic, although my parents are...so I could not care less about how much Joe Biden (supposedly a Catholic) gives to charity, since that's on his conscience, not mine.
JP| 2.16.12 @ 4:18PM
Ditto for Sr Keehan. We should pray for her.
darcy| 2.16.12 @ 9:33PM
But I do wonder with what church you are affiliated when you tell us that those among your congregation think that Pres. O is just the bee's knees, so to speak.
What exactly is coming out of your pulpit to make these members so BRAIN DEAD?
Dr. X| 2.16.12 @ 4:49PM
Right. Socialism is a government program. But remember, the GOVERNMENT murdered Jesus.
You cannot understand the essence of Christianity without understanding this fundamental point. St. Augustine clearly differentiated between the "City of God" and the corrupt "City of Man," which is the government.
If Jesus had wanted Government Socialism, he would have become a military leader (like Mohammed) and killed his opponents to accomplish that. But he didn't want that; he expected Christians to transcend government and transcend material life.
Martin Owens| 2.16.12 @ 7:39PM
And also you might mention that this paleo-socialist experiment failed.
Mike Rogers | 2.18.12 @ 7:07PM
Ask your "Catholic" friends if they believe the pope is a good, holy, and erudite man. Then show them this article written long before the hateful Wright had begun to teach Obama. If they still believe that Catholicism is best expressed by Marxism, then they will deserve to burn in Hell:
http://www.christendom-awake.o.....ntheol.htm
Mike Rogers | 2.18.12 @ 7:10PM
AND, if you ever hear a priest talk about "social justice", run, don't walk, to a new church.
SUBVET| 2.20.12 @ 8:06PM
Just in case you didn't know..... there is a difference between a Christian and a Catholic.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 2.16.12 @ 6:30AM
Typical liberals. They want all the money they can get while maintaining their right to control others.
Dr. X| 2.16.12 @ 6:32AM
Nine hundred grand? Sounds more like the Whore of Babylon than a Sister of Charity to me....
drudge ette obama| 2.16.12 @ 6:35AM
Wish that I had thought of that. What ever happened to nuns making bread and jellies to raise money. Now they figuratively just lift their shortened skirts for the collection.
Clint| 2.16.12 @ 7:10AM
Don't Ignore The Elephant In The Middle Of The Room.
Catholics for Choice; the Central Conference of American Rabbis; Concerned Clergy for
Choice; Disciples Justice Action Network; Episcopal Divinity School; Episcopal Women’s
Caucus; Hadassah; the Jewish Reconstructionist Federation; Jewish Women International;
Methodist Federation for Social Action; Muslims for Progressive Values; the National Council of
Jewish Women; Planned Parenthood Clergy Advisory Board; the Rabbinical Assembly; the
Religious Coalition to Reproductive Choice; the Religious Institute; Society for Humanistic
Judaism; The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism; Union Theological Seminary; Unitarian
Universalist Association; and United Church of Christ represent millions of religious leaders
and people of faith across the country.
http://www.catholicsforchoice......erage1.pdf
Clint| 2.16.12 @ 7:13AM
Here It Is.
http://www.catholicsforchoice......erage1.pdf
Da Monk| 2.16.12 @ 9:57AM
Clint: Are you related to Tim?
Spymaster G.| 2.16.12 @ 10:42AM
Da Monkee:
Are you related to Cheetah?
loulou| 2.16.12 @ 11:33AM
Da Monkee is really stoopid or just has very poor reading comprehension.
drudge ette obama| 2.16.12 @ 6:33AM
This sickens me. The snickers Catholics get on a daily basis about child-molesting priests, gay priest, married priests, nuns and protecting illegal criminals has done more to reduce the Catholic membership over the last 50 plus years. Couple that with the alien Social Justice junk and this god-awful nun and can you really wonder why the Church must sell buildings and churches, and beg for members.
Mike Hawk| 2.16.12 @ 6:38AM
Isn't CHA another Soros front organization unaffiliated with the RC church?? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Da Monk| 2.16.12 @ 9:58AM
No, Mike, I read it was the Koch brothers
Dick Nome | 2.16.12 @ 10:56AM
It may not be a Soros front yet, but it's working on it. Soros gives them a lot of moola and is an influence in their workings.
loulou| 2.16.12 @ 11:34AM
Aha... a stupid lefty. Get outta here.
(Filling in for) Clint| 2.16.12 @ 2:20PM
No, it's the JOOOOOOOOZZZZZ!
Clint| 2.16.12 @ 8:39PM
Uh Oh !
The Israel Firster Smear Bund Coward Attempts To Play His Dog Eared Anti-Jew Card On Tea Party Clint.
Brian Mc| 2.16.12 @ 6:40AM
Wearing the 'pants' to be sure; the Catholic Church during its dumbing-down process lost something dear when nuns lost their habits.
Maddox| 2.16.12 @ 11:36AM
Which again leads to the question, Why does the Catholic Church allow this sort of thing to happen, blatantly in public without penalty? I am not Catholic so I sincerely do not know. Doesn't the church call for excommunication of people like this nun and Nancy Pelosi?
Dick Nome | 2.16.12 @ 12:00PM
CHA is independent of the The Roman Catholic Church.
Mark| 2.18.12 @ 3:17PM
Nancy Pelosi, Janet Napolitano and many other so-called Catholics have excommunicated themselves. The problems exists that the rest of the world does not know this. It's time all our Bishops send a message throughout their diocese's that no priest or deacon who wishes to retain all his priestly faculties (permission to offer mass and administer the sacraments which comes directly from their Bishop) may offer communion or any other sacrament to these false christians until such time as they repent and atone for their rebellion against the Church and her authority. Let them travel abroad to find solace.
Appleby| 2.16.12 @ 6:52AM
EWTN has filed suit against this abomination, and how I wish Mother Angelica was able to lead the charge over the barricades! There are still plenty of old-fashioned Nuns and Priests, and we need to make sure they know that they have our full support; it's hard to stand alone against a sea of Orcs, after all. God will win the day, but He expects every Catholic to do his or her duty. Make sure your bishop, priest and all religious knows you stand foursquare for Catholic principles and will support them all the way as they do the same.
runningdeer| 2.19.12 @ 1:48AM
I agree. But there is another priest that was a big supporter of this President and his church with Jeremiah Wright. There are some radical Catholic priest and Nuns so what does the church do about them? The church allows them to fund raise and to openly express their political views. When they do it it makes a much larger over all impact than if other people did it. They reflect the church body as much as those priest who abuse children or anyone at the top rank. The body notices as example The world hears. If judgment begins in the house of God how much more for the rest of us. That is a Bible scripture but I forget exactly where in the Bible.
Nemo| 2.16.12 @ 6:54AM
Isnpt it odd how all left-wing nuns look the same?
Timothy L. Pennell| 2.16.12 @ 8:59AM
Yeah. They all look like Harry Reid.
(Don't you just wanna put your fist through the screen, when you press the "Submit" button, and there, staring right back at you, is a Spelling Error?)
It's worse than 50 fckewes in a row.
loulou| 2.16.12 @ 11:37AM
Based on looks, Janet Napolitano could be a nun. An archetype.
The Bruce| 2.16.12 @ 2:24PM
Based on look, she could be a priest as well. Just sayin'.
darcy| 2.16.12 @ 7:16PM
The Bruce: Please try not to temper your comments with the ubiquitous and impotent, "Just sayin'."
Say it and mean it. Don't apologize. Don't lessen the effect of your bold comment.
Be bold. "Just sayin'" is a wimpy sort of comment. Do you really mean it? If not, don't say it. If so -- let it stand.
She looks like a male -- moreover, it's probably by design, since she's a dyke.
SUBVET| 2.20.12 @ 8:13PM
Gee........I thought all of us males were lesbian's traped in a man's body.
loulou| 2.16.12 @ 11:35AM
True, Nemo.
Tony in Central PA| 2.16.12 @ 6:59AM
Again, it seems the worst enemies of the Catholic Church in America are those from within. Its long past time for Catholics to retire " social justice " and those who agitate for it in favor of Christian charity.
oldfart| 2.16.12 @ 7:12AM
Normal socialist MO - destory from within with the what used to be called 'fifth column'.
Timothy L. Pennell| 2.16.12 @ 9:01AM
Fifth Columns used to be called: Fifth Columns.
Now they're called "The Main Stream Media".
oldfart| 2.16.12 @ 9:17AM
One correction - Lame Stream Media.
Antonio A. Badilla| 2.19.12 @ 8:13PM
The problem is NOT social justice, since such a doctrine is part of our Catholic faith. The problem is how so many Catholics, including bishops, confuse social justice with leftist politics that ignore the principle of subsidiarity to no end. Don't you think St. Vincent de Paul and Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta cared about social justice? Do you think Pope Leo XIII confused the social teaching of the Church with leftist politics?
oldfart| 2.16.12 @ 7:16AM
As it relates to the American Catholic Church, I serously think this Pope needs to follow in the guidance related in Matthew 21:12. Dude - you need to kick a__ and take names.
runningdeer| 2.19.12 @ 1:50AM
I like it!
Crypto-Conservative in NH| 2.16.12 @ 7:36AM
Dolan and USCCB, etc. - allowed themselves to be snookered at the starting gate with the delusion they were dealing with people of 'good faith' - of course, they 'corrected' themselves but at significant cost. When will they learn that the pro-abortionists and Democrats have no honor. By NOT responding quickly, accurately and adhering FIRMLY with a concise, consistent response - they make their opposition meaningless. Now, their 'catholic' politicians (Biden, Pelosi, Shaheen, etc.) label anyone objecting to Obama's attack on religious freedom as racists trying to force contraception and deny 'healthcare' to helpless women. Obama is already back up to 50% approval rating. Good work Dolan, USCCB, WUERL, et al playing 'Charlie Brown' to Lucy (Jesuits, Sebelius, Obama, etc.) and her pro-abortion football!
Alice Moore| 2.16.12 @ 9:59AM
Sadly, Bishop Dolan and others will find out what it's like now that their utility is at an end; like all useful idiots. Just ask the Russian and French aristocrats that gave their support to their revolutionaries.
Antonio A. Badilla| 2.19.12 @ 8:22PM
It is true that polls show that most Catholics still support Obama, but most poll takers fail to realize the answers to a poll differ depending on whether one is asking "cultural" Catholics a question, as opposed to asking questions of practicing church- going Catholics. The vast majority of church- going Catholics do oppose Obama, but the media does not distinguish between "cultural" Catholics and "practicing" Catholics. They ask questions of anyone who uses the label Catholic.
The media will take opinions by "Catholics for Choice" or the opinions of a Sister Keehan on an "equal" footing with the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, thus confusing millions of Americans who, suddenly, don't know who really speaks for Catholicism in America.
Clint| 2.16.12 @ 7:47AM
A total of 86 bishops have spoken out against the Obama/HHS mandate publicly.
Bishop Olmsted of Phoenix, Archbishop Dennis Schnurr of Cincinnati and Bishop David Ricken of Green Bay, Wisconsin suggested the same in their public statements.
“We cannot – we will not comply with this unjust law. People of faith cannot be made second-class citizens. We are already joined by our brothers and sisters of all faiths and many others of good will in this important effort to regain our religious freedom. Our parents and grandparents did not come to these shores to help build America’s cities and towns, its infrastructure and institutions, its enterprise and culture, only to have their prosperity stripped of their God given rights. In generations past, the Church has always been able to count on the faithful to stand up and protect her sacred rights and duties. I hope she can trust on this generation of Catholics to do the same. Our children and grandchildren deserve nothing less."
oldfart| 2.16.12 @ 9:21AM
The Bishops are speaking - finally (it took long enough), but many of these 'catholic' organizations are outside the control of the local Bishop.
florin| 2.16.12 @ 8:09PM
Actually I believe that Sr. Keehan was told to remove the title 'Catholic' from her organization but she won't because she probably gets more media attention and funding from Obama because she allows Obama to use her against the Church and against the Bishops...she won't last long. Like Sebelius and Pelosi, she is shriveling from within...that's what evil does to a soul.
Doctor Right| 2.16.12 @ 10:44AM
Good grief!
I'm actually going to agree with Clint! (Mark this down, please...)
The presiding Bishop in my parent's diocese has already said about this edict:
"We will NOT comply. We are prepared to go to jail."
Juan Jose Morales-Castillo | 2.16.12 @ 7:50AM
If Keehan, Pelosi and Sebelius are Catholics, then I'm a worshipper of Isis, Osiris and Baal.
Antonio A. Badilla| 2.19.12 @ 8:27PM
I fully agree with your sentiments about these people.
rightasrain| 2.16.12 @ 7:52AM
Before the 2008 election, my parish's pastor gave several very unsubtle homilies about how it was permissible for Catholics to vote for a pro-abortion candidate so long as you are not voting for him because of his abortion stance. He went so far as to say that a candidate's views on abortion were less important than his views on war. To him, the deaths of 4,000 soldiers in Iraq, admittedly tragic, were much worse than the killing of 35 million unborn babies since Roe v Wade. This is today's Catholic Church.
Antonio A. Badilla| 2.19.12 @ 8:30PM
"This is today's Catholic Church." No, this is today's confused clergy who think they know better than the Pope and the episcopal magisterium, and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Clint| 2.16.12 @ 7:54AM
" As the U.S. bishops’ letter of October 8 ,2009 states:
“No one should be required to pay for or participate in abortion. It is essential that the legislation clearly apply to this new program longstanding and widely supported federal restrictions on abortion funding and mandates, and protections for rights of conscience.
No current bill meets this test…. If acceptable language in these areas cannot be found, we will have to oppose the health care bill vigorously.”
For the full text of this letter and more information on proposed legislation and the bishops’ advocacy for authentic health care reform, visit: www.usccb.org/healthcare.
Congressional leaders are attempting to put together final bills for floor consideration. Please contact your Representative and Senators today and urge them to fix these bills with the pro-life amendments noted below. Otherwise much needed health care reform will have to be opposed. Health care reform should be about saving lives, not destroying them."
Richard Baker| 2.16.12 @ 7:57AM
I guess her vow of poverty isn't much on her mind these days. Has the vow of chastity disappeared, as well? If she's a Catholic Sister, my only question is why? She obviously thinks she can serve God AND Mammon. Disgraceful.
PJ| 2.16.12 @ 5:47PM
Those who take vows of poverty give all their earnings to their religious order, at least they did that in the past.
Antonio A. Badilla| 2.19.12 @ 8:31PM
And she is not the only "Sister" who thinks this way, and then we wonder why vocations are in crisis!
Say Baptist| 2.16.12 @ 7:58AM
Remember the "Singing Nun"? After making a big hit with her charming song about the Waldesian Massacre, she left the convent,married and made another hit with her song about the joys of the birth control pill.
Herb| 2.16.12 @ 9:19AM
According to Mr. Google, ex-Singing Nun Jeanine Deckers was a one-hit-wonder with "Dominique" and her later radicalized embrace of contraception as a social issue left her in such penury that she and her lesbian partner committed suicide together. She was 51.
And yes, nuns with liberal or left views do tend to look alike, and the religious habit that all nuns once wore is greatly missed
uncle curmudgeon| 2.16.12 @ 8:20AM
Thanks, George. The easiest way for non-profs to dispose of surplus cash is to compensate well connected hacks (aka directors, chairs of steering committees, staff attorneys, etc) who will get them more money. As Alinsky said, "The issue is never the issue."
Jesus on the Pharisees: They are a brood of vipers. Smart man, that.
David| 2.16.12 @ 8:24AM
The sister really made good-- not only is she getting a whopping big salary, apparently, President Obama has just elected her Pope!
Mickeybutane| 2.16.12 @ 8:26AM
C'Mon - that's Dana Carvey cause she looks like SATAN!!!!
Von Mises Jr.| 2.16.12 @ 8:27AM
Hey Sheeple, Obama brings back the "Test Acts" where he demands people of faith pay for abortions, and the response is to bash the Catholic Church for buying into "Social Justice?"
If you worked 35 years and averaged $50K income; you would have paid in about $125K to Social Security and Medicare. Your employer would have paid the same, or about $250K total.
When you retire and collect SS, you get $375K back over 25 years, and free health care for life. Didn't most of the people buy into "Social Justice" Utopian bullshit?
If Obama's only hope for re-election is to create a revolutionary fervor based on class envy and hate; why the heck would you join the fray? Socialist, whom today we refer to as liberals and progressives, are the problem; not some Catholic Hospital, nun or Bishop!
Clint| 2.16.12 @ 8:27AM
When Romney Was Governor Of Massachusetts.
" NEWS RELEASE
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 13, 2005
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: C. J. DOYLE
(617) 524-6309
CATHOLIC ACTION LEAGUE OPPOSES
EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION BILL
The CatholicActionLeague ofMassachusetts offered testimony today before the Legislature's Joint
Committee on Public Health opposing the so-called Emergency Contraception Bill. This measure,
if enacted, would coerce Catholic hospitals and Catholic medical professionals into performing
chemical abortions by forcing them to dispense the abortifacient morning-after pill.
The Catholic Action League characterized the measure as "a heavy handed aggression against the
consciences and the constitutional rights of Catholics."
Catholic Action League Executive Director C. J. Doyle stated: "This proposed legislation, if it
becomes law, will force Catholic doctors, nurses, and medical personnel at secular hospitals to
choose between violating their consciences or forfeiting their jobs. Catholic medical institutions
will be presentedwith the choice ofcostly litigation to contest this measure, non-compliance, which
is to say civil disobedience, or closure. The Catholic Church is the largest non-governmental
provider of health care services in the United States. If the Catholic Church is forced out of the
health care industry, an oppressive burden would be imposed on the already strained health care
system in the Commonwealth, which ultimately would have to be borne by the taxpayer."
"The free exercise of religion is guaranteed by both the First Amendment to the United States
Constitution, and evenmore broadly, by Article II ofthe Declaration ofRights oftheMassachusetts
Constitution. The jurisprudence ofboth the United States and the Commonwealth have long held
that the exercise of religion consists not only of the liberty to worship, but the right to act in
accordance with one's religious principles."
"At a time when society professes to celebrate the values of tolerance, pluralism, and diversity, it
is astonishing that such an illiberal, authoritarian, and constitutionally defective proposal is being
contemplated against Catholics."
Mike| 2.16.12 @ 8:29AM
I left the Catholic Church years ago because I realized that they were just another political organization: The main goal is to gain power and money.
Antonio A. Badilla| 2.19.12 @ 8:34PM
Well, I hope you found the "perfect" Church, if not, keep looking till hell freezes over!
SUBVET| 2.20.12 @ 8:19PM
MIKE....Jesus is the church you just have to find HIM.
I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't.
Than live my life if there isn't, and find out there is.
W| 2.16.12 @ 8:30AM
This is not an isolated example. We have had the religious involved directly and indirectly in politics but we get upset only when they take positions we disagree with. We had Falwell, Robertson, the Moral Majority, Rev ML King, Jackson, Sharpton. All those who opposed Vietnam and Nixon loved Father Drinan, and those who supported Vietnam loved Cardinal Spellman.
The bright light should focus on abortion and euthanasia. I don't see how any religious, Catholic or Jewish or Protestant, can support a candidate that supports abortion. Jessee Jackson was pro life until he started running for office. Governor Bob Casey of Pa was the last honest Catholic Democrat about abortion. Bubba/Hillary prevented him from speaking at the 1992 Dem convention. His son, Bob Casey Jr., ran as a pro life Dem and defeated Santorum in 2006 by 18 points, but has voted the straight Obama line in Congress, and has betrayed his father's ideas.
There is an excellent book on this issue by a former Dem politicain, David Carlin, "Can a Catholic be a Democrat, How the Party I loved Became the Enemy of my Religion."
dagbat| 2.16.12 @ 12:04PM
Did not know about the Carlin book. Thanks W.
Jim Thunder | 2.16.12 @ 8:32AM
The CHA board has two bishops.
ella8| 2.16.12 @ 8:59AM
I'm going to join the Baptists. Our Catholic church has no young families, add that to the fact that the Bishops are soft, why am I even pursuing Catholicism. I thought I knew, but I think my vision of the Church is different than it really is.
Appleby| 2.16.12 @ 10:44AM
Our Catholic church has masses of young families. So does my family.
DFL| 2.16.12 @ 11:09AM
St. Athanasius in northern Virginia is burgeoning with large families. It is a Latin Mass, traditional parish. Many families drive three or four hours round-trip to attend.
ella8| 2.16.12 @ 11:33AM
Is there a way to find out which parishes are traditional?
DFL| 2.16.12 @ 11:42AM
St. Athanasius is SSPX-sympathetic and is listed as an alternative parish with them. It has no ordinary yet is anti-sedevacantist. Some might find the situation troubling as the situation with Rome has not be resolved.
Seek| 2.16.12 @ 1:17PM
SSPX is a rather vile anti-Semitic organization.
Derek Leaberry| 2.16.12 @ 1:37PM
There are no anti-Semites at St. Athanasius that I know of.
Bob James| 2.16.12 @ 1:39PM
This is a slanderous comment I will attribute to ignorance rather than malice.
Bob James| 2.16.12 @ 1:40PM
Forgive me, I was replying to "Seek," not Mr. Leaberry.
Derek Leaberry| 2.16.12 @ 4:43PM
No offense taken, Mr. James.
Janet Baker | 2.16.12 @ 3:00PM
We most certainly are not! My goodness, where did you ever get such an idea? Perhaps from that one bishop, whose only crime was to point out the very many exaggerations and even falsehoods related to the Holocaust, and even NPR and similar liberal media giants run stories with the same message--faked 'real-life' stories and faked numbers and so forth are common on that topic. The holocaust has been a money-maker for a lot of people, and to say so does not make one anti-semitic. Nor saying that possibly Israel is not playing fair with Palestine, because who is not saying that now? SSPX 's official position, if they have one, is that the Jews should convert; I think that's their position regarding every false sect so I'm confident that's their position regarding Jews. That's charity, not prejudice. I go to SSPX mass in Chicago.
JP| 2.16.12 @ 2:38PM
Write or call the FSSP in Lincoln Nebraska. The order is made up of "mission priests." If you have enough like minded Catholics in your area and are willing to help pay for some of the priest's expenses they will send one your way. The FSSP do both Novus Ordo and Trinintine Rites.
SF_Exile| 2.16.12 @ 4:52PM
Indeed, FSSP is a worthy order to support. I would also check out the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest. They are a good, solid, traditional Catholic organization.
http://www.institute-christ-king.org/home/
Here's a good link: http://www.ecclesiadei.org/
This site will give you a fairly up to date listing of parishes per state.
W| 2.16.12 @ 11:36AM
Ella,
Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are Baptist ministers. How does that affect your vision?
loulou| 2.16.12 @ 11:42AM
The shakedown twins aren't REAL ministers, are they? Rev Al the bloated one was preaching when he was 3 years old--do they ordain that young?
W| 2.16.12 @ 1:05PM
loulou
I don't know what is a REAL minister, but you can't judge any Church by some of their clergy. I used Al and Jesse as examples, and not to criticize Baptists. You could add Minister Farrakhan, Rev Jim Bakker, and the rest.
ella8| 2.16.12 @ 12:14PM
It has nothing to do with it. It is because the local baptist church down the street is overflowing with families and devoted followers of Jesus. The Catholic Church down the street has no young families and when we go we hear only social justice messages. I am an isolated stay at home mom. Not one person in the Catholic Church has reached out. The Baptists on the other hand have stopped by with food, cards, invited us to family activities. That is why. It has nothing to do with politics. Unfirtunately the Catholic Church seems to be all about politics, not about being neighbors.
SeymourGlass| 2.16.12 @ 2:30PM
Ella: have you considered why the Baptists feel a need to "sell" their wares, and Catholics do not?
Even with all the politics, the Catholic Church in your area DOES have the Real Presence of Christ - I'm not a Baptist, but it's my understanding this Church would not have the Real Presence.
ella8| 2.16.12 @ 2:47PM
They are not trying to sell anything. They are just being neighborly and you know helping people in need. They brought us food when I was terribly sick during pregnancy, they were not trying to sell something. I think it is wonderful that the Catholic Church takes up donations to help people in Haiti and wants everyone to have access to health care, but there are needs in a local community too. Sure collecting coats for single moms is great, but families have needs too. We don't need money, and thank God we have enough food, warm shelter, and clothing; but we do need a sense of community and people to fill our need for "family" nearby since we don't have family nearby. The local Baptists do bring a sense of community that is otherwise missing from this town, the Catholics do not.
ella8| 2.16.12 @ 2:53PM
I did not want to pick a Church based on that, but we really need to build relationships in our community. I just don't see it happening with the Catholics. They just go to Church, donate money to some faraway cause or charity, then go home. Helping the poor should not be the ONLY mission of the Church.
Simon Templar| 2.16.12 @ 5:15PM
ella,
You do not have to explain anything or justify yourself. Go to the services of this baptist church and listen to the message clearly. If you have any doubts, go the the head minister and ask that person where that church stands on the issues and what values do they espouse. If they fit your views, values, and are scripturally based, then return.
Good luck to you and best wishes,
Simon Templar
BStacks| 2.20.12 @ 3:54PM
That the Holy Spirit shining through your Baptist neighbors.
9thID| 2.16.12 @ 12:39PM
There are more flavors of Baptists than Baskin Robbins has ice cream. Witness the Liberal moral relativist likes of Bill Clinton, Jimbo Carter, and Ron Paul...
BStacks| 2.20.12 @ 3:55PM
+1
Catholic Lady Doc| 2.18.12 @ 2:48AM
It's never wise to leave the Church because of disappointment or heresy by fellow Catholics, be they lay people or nuns or priests/bishops. Don't let their misbehavior, whether borne of gross stupidity or outright evil make you leave the Church that Jesus Christ founded.
Even a deeply flawed priest turns bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ, so in spite of himself, he does the extraordinary.
Many clergy, I find, have simply and astonishingly gotten so off track trying to fulfill relatively mundane duties that they've forgotten basic concepts like "evil exists in the world", "know them by their deeds, not their words", "abortion is always and everywhere wrong", (from country music fame) "if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything", and other pearls of wisdom and common sense, mostly from the bible.
Everyone posting here could help by conveying strong support to their local bishop and parish priest to confirm to them that they're indeed on the right track. (And while recriminations for past failings may seem deserved, they're not likely to be all that helpful - bishops and priests being human are more likely to respond favorably to endorsement going forward than recriminations re: past (gross) inadequacies (and cluelessness and perhaps lack of courage in some instances.)) The "Church Militant" needs to get behind the now emboldened bishops and charge ahead against all this lunacy and pre-totalitarianism!
Google your diocese today - Catholic, lapsed Catholic, Protestant, Jew, agnostic, atheist - and convey your support for statements against the Obama-Sebelius edict of January 20th. To date, not just 86 but every single bishop leading the nearly 200 diocese in the USA have spoken out or written against this outrageous injustice/usurpation of power. Back them up to encourage more of the same!
Antonio A. Badilla| 2.19.12 @ 8:38PM
Be my guest, if you are willing to leave the Church that Christ founded, with flaws and all, for a Protestant church founded in the theology of Martin Luther, well, good luck.
albert constantine jr.| 2.16.12 @ 9:05AM
Two of my aunts took the vows and became Sisters in the Franciscan Order. One went into teaching, the other into nursing. Both lived quiet communal and humble lives in accordance with their vocation. I never saw either without their habit.
When the elder of the two died about a decade ago, her funeral was at a home for retired nuns. Among those who eulogized her was a retired man who had been one of her students in her first class at a Baltimore parochial school over six decades previously.
He spoke to the gathering of family (which was augmented by scores of her fellow sisters, brothers and priests of many orders, most in their 70s and 80s) of how whatever good character he had was largely shaped by the guidance provided by my aunt and those like her, who gave up many of the pleasures of life in order to try to further the work of Jesus in this world.
When I see the likes of Carol Keehan dishonoring her vows and vocation, I can’t help but think that many of the old sisters who were there would be inclined to giving her a good ruler rap across the knuckles to start, before they prayed for her soul.
W| 2.16.12 @ 11:41AM
We had the Sisters of Notre Dame, a teaching order. Think of all those nuns who sacrificed their lives to teach for no pay the children of Irish, Italian, Polish, and easter European immigrants. Now many of the city parochial schools are teaching black students who do much better in the parochial schools than in the city public schools.
But, you are correct, it is the Keehans who ruin the name of the others. Most of the schools I am familiar with have only one nun, usually as principal, and the rest are lay teachers.
albert constantine jr| 2.16.12 @ 12:23PM
Though I had my two aunts who were OSF, I was taught by IHM sisters. These days, my kids have had one nun for half a year during their tenure in Catholic schools. It is difficult in our secularized, sexualized and selfish era to find people who are willing to give up so much of their lives. I recall being in the hall with all of those who had, and being profoundly humbled by being in the presence of those who knew real sacrifice.
All of this accentuates why Carol Keehan's disavowal of her vows of poverty and obedience to achieve venal earthly access is such an affront.
Doug| 2.16.12 @ 6:07PM
W -- the SNDs is the (ahem) order that taught the likes of Sebelius and Pelosi at Trinity College in Washington, D.C. Fire up the search engine and you'll find a link to "Washington" magazine featuring the whole wretched story. It's putrid enough to gag a maggot. Yes the SND de Namur order taught and molded all throughout the U.S...and yet it's two most infamous college alumnae have disgraced thousands upon thousands of girls and your women who were taught correctly by that particular order. This particular branch of SNDs were truly renegades. Perverted social justice ideologues.
Doug| 2.16.12 @ 6:15PM
Pardon me...young women. Blasted virtual keyboard!
W| 2.16.12 @ 7:33PM
Doug
Is it the nuns' fault that Pelosi and Sebellius are what they are? What is your point?
Pete McNesbitt| 2.18.12 @ 11:18AM
...Most of these in their 70's and 80's. Now how is that a good thing? Where are the 30 year olds through the 60 year olds. Could it be that women now have the ability to be so much more than just a nun.
Skip| 2.16.12 @ 9:28AM
The Sr. Keehan's of the Catholic world are the exception, not the rule. I live in the Midwest, and was heartened to see the hundreds of 7th and 8th graders at my daughters' school leaving to attend the March For Life last month.
The Sister Keehans will lose because they're on the wrong side of history.
And God. If the gates of hell don't have a chance in prevailing against the Church, wat can a silly Kenyan do?
billcarson| 2.16.12 @ 9:44AM
I'm from Santa Fe, NM. I am sickened by the weakness of our bishop here. I'm not going to let ANY worthless bishop run me out of the Catholic Church, but I admit it's sort of an upside down world when you sorta think that you're following the teachings of the Catholic Church more than your own bishop. I thought the bishop was supposed to be the beacon, the leader.
ella8| 2.16.12 @ 10:10AM
That is my problem. I am willing to do anything for my family and if I have to convert so my children can be baptized then I will. I can't go into it with half of a heart and living the Catholic life is not an easy road. I already have three children, so the Catholic teachings will not be easy to live. How can they expect me to take on this challenge if they are not even on board. I don't think I can talk to my local priest because I think he is more focused on social justice. This is a very confusing time to convert to Catholicism.
Janet Baker | 2.16.12 @ 12:10PM
Oh, Ella, what an insightful comment! It was always a traditional teaching that the people in the parish will tend to achieve a spiritual life one step down from the level maintained by their pastor, and I guess the same goes for the diocese, only broader. It hurts when leaders are tepid in the Faith! Dear heart, please seek an SSPX chapel to go to. They really are trying, and their standards are so much higher! You won't be discouraged near as much.
SeymourGlass| 2.16.12 @ 2:32PM
Ella: you say you "don't think" you can talk to your local priest. Have you tried?
ella8| 2.16.12 @ 2:57PM
No I'm too confused and to tell you the truth scared.
Nick| 2.16.12 @ 3:37PM
Ella8,
Pray!
Pray to the Holy Spirit to point you in the direction of a parish with an orthodox priest. I will also pray for you and your family. I'm sure there is a Catholic parish in your area where you can be fed the Good News.
""Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened." - Matthew 7:7-8
As Pope John Paul the Great always reminded us: Be not afraid!
God Bless!
ella8| 2.16.12 @ 3:41PM
Thank you. You made me cry.
Jeamar| 2.16.12 @ 5:13PM
ella8: I read your comments yesterday too, and I believe someone named Tom replied in a very sensitive way to you. Ella, you sound so lonely and so overwhelmed by your social/religious situation. You need to talk to your priest or the Baptist pastor and ask for more help than an occasional visit from either church. Some poster on this site can make some really cruel remarks but I think you can see there are those that are encouraging you too. Please seek help. You're obviously a caring Mom but your depression can eventually have a detrimental effect on your children. I speak from experience. Hope to see a post from you in future where you are more hopeful.
ella8| 2.16.12 @ 8:00PM
Thank you but I was telling the truth yesterday. I am sure the same thing is happening in most schools today. I can't change what I learned and how it corrupted my entire philosophy, but I do worry that my children will have to be exposed to the same "education". It seems like parents have less and less control over what their children learn. In my case however my parents didn't even care to care that I was being set on a destructive path and being taught things that I was completely emotionally unprepared and immature to deal with. The public school system failed me, and for that I have a hard time forgiving. I am only now realizing the impact that had on my life. So it is not depression, I have dealt with that before. This is bigger than that. This should not be happening to children. The school does not have a right to force children into such innapropriate learning situations.
Nick| 2.16.12 @ 6:07PM
Ella8,
You are very welcome.
(I hope they were happy tears?!)
I forgot to mention this earlier, if you are able, watch EWTN, if you are not already. They have many uplifting programs that are loyal to the Magisterium.
"Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect; but when the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away. When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became a man, I gave up childish ways. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall understand fully, even as I have been fully understood. So faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love." - 1 Cor. 13:7-13
Yours in Christ, Nick
SF_Exile| 2.16.12 @ 5:01PM
Don't give up, Ella! Don't give in to fear! It's just the opportunity the devil needs to sow his seeds of discontent.
Even here in the Sodom and Gomorrah world of San Francisco I've had the opportunity to know some good, Orthodox priests who are working hard to combat the foolishness from within. There is always hope. Speak to your priest; give him a chance to prove himself.
JP| 2.16.12 @ 4:51PM
Try speaking to him, you may be surprised. And I know of no priest who would think less of you no matter what your station in life is.
Sandra| 2.16.12 @ 9:48AM
There are days I pray for mercy for her and others that lead others off "the way" by their attraction to the glamour of sin, and support of death and evil, after all the way to hell IS paved with "good intentions."
Then there are days I ask for "justice," either way, this life of ours is a brief moment in eternity, what you say and do here DOES matter, and you will be held to account, contrary to what the g0dless liberals believe (or don't believe).
We need priests and bishops that are MEN, not sheeple; that both lead and protect, (with their lives if needed), their flocks. The last 50 years has been dismal with only a few exceptions.
We need men and women with true vocations to service and prayer, in the world, NOT of the world. We need men and women that are formed and educated in the teachings of their faith, not relying on half-truths and "feel-good" messages.
In the last couple weeks there has been an awakening of the Spirit. May it continue, may it grow and spread. May the Spirit steel us for what is to come, and propel us to action.
Da Monk| 2.16.12 @ 10:02AM
Why are most of the commentors to this article concerning control of women's right contraception of women, men?
With God all things r possible| 2.16.12 @ 10:16AM
One of the features of Western Civilization is that the truth stands alone. You don't have to be a woman to tell the truth about women; you don't have to be black to tell the truth about blacks. You don't even have to be a monk to tell the truth about monks. Or nuns. Or monks who write as if they were nuns. Or whatever.
One ought to listen to the various sides of an argument; that is wisdom. But one ought not to disqualify oneself because one is not a certified minority or group; that would be foolishness.
Your question carries with it a desire to return to tribalism, where truth is determined by one's position in society and by might. It evinces a wish to abandon from the rule of law, reason and morality.
Ironically, such a move only brings about the quick death of women's aspirations, because barbarian men are stronger than barbarian women. Always have been, and always will be.
Timothy L. Pennell| 2.16.12 @ 10:27AM
Don't waste your time on that POS.
He knows that this has nothing to do with a WHORE'S Right to contraception.
He's a Drone. He's one of Obamas' B*tches, and he will bend over, and do his Master's work, when his Master calls.
Such are the ways of Da Punk*ss.
JmsA| 2.16.12 @ 11:02AM
Because life begins at conception. And if they want contraceptives, they should pay for it themselves, not force someone else to pay for it.
Derek Leaberry| 2.16.12 @ 1:34PM
Morality is not limited to one sea alone. It applies to men and women.
With God all things r possible| 2.16.12 @ 10:06AM
Didja ever notice how the intelligent and insightful comments on Spectator are made in the morning?
In mid-afternoon, when the kids wake up and head for their computers, the tone and content of the discourse goes downhill faster than an economy with President Obama at the wheel.
Watch this article's comments this evening.
Trebuchet| 2.16.12 @ 10:11AM
Let's bring back the Templars and clean house.
Roy Allen| 2.16.12 @ 10:14AM
Cannot
Understand
Normal
Thinking
With God all things r possible| 2.16.12 @ 10:17AM
Kids woke up.
fmm| 2.16.12 @ 11:02AM
The facts in this article show how morally depraved our country has become - money means more than faith and the word of the Lord even among the supposed practioners.
DFL| 2.16.12 @ 11:07AM
Thanks for the exposure of corruption. Pope Benedict XVI still has a lot of work to do. Fortunately, anti-Catholic organizations within the Church are dying- the Jesuits, the secular "nuns."
Janet Baker | 2.16.12 @ 12:05PM
It has taken this long for the health care available in the middle ages to be completely privatized. Catholic hospitals were the holdout until this last period since the Council. The privatization began with Henry VIII's seizing of St. Barthalemew's, a hospital that had been operating in England, free to the poor, since (I believe the date is) the 500's. They seized the hospitals one by one and literally privatized them. They say the poor in England used to wander from hospital to hospital seeking care they could afford. The cure for the problem does not lie within our grasp now. We cannot fix health care, the huge profitization is is experiencing, without fixing the Church's teaching on religious liberty, on the Free Market philosophy, and on the role of the religious in society. Not only is this wage obscene, the entire existence of a profit taking health care system is obscene. We need at-cost health care for most, charity for some, now. For that we need the call for a state with an unshakable commitment to human life as Hungary just made. At least that, to begin.
G. Keith Smith, M.D. | 2.16.12 @ 3:27PM
I'll have to disagree with you. The tiny sliver of the free market left in medicine in the U.S. is what powers the care that everyone gets. The best allocation of resources stems from an open and free market. Health care is no different, it's just that the market has not been allowed to work its magic of lowering prices and increasing quality like it has for everything else. Part of the reason the market has been stymied is the cartel formation promulgated by the so-called "not for profit" hospitals. They have bilked billions from the sick. Check out our prices displayed on our webpage. This is driving the not for profits crazy. We are 1/10 of their price most of the time in a state of the art facility and are still able to make a profit.
G. Keith Smith, M.D.
Janet Baker | 2.16.12 @ 10:19PM
Actually, I agree with you. When I said 'at cost' I meant what I think you mean by its cost on the actual 'free market.' Without insurance. The way it was in the middle ages. You paid for your care. Health care for the poor is another matter. A nation which put Christ at the center, giving the balance, might be able to do this as a government enterprise rather than by charity, because there might be sufficient moral clarity to identify fraud. You might be interested that Hungary, at the same time reaffirming its commitment to the poor in the name of Christ, challenged the placement of so many of the Romas, or gypsys to give the old name, on the public dole and promised, or threatened, to get them work. It would have to be like that to fix our situation and return to the 'free markets' of which you speak, a bit of a contradiction which I think is possible in an honest and truly caring society.
One of my adult offspring recently needed to have a cyst removed and has no insurance. We simply could not obtain prices for the procedure at nineteen of twenty providers in the Chicago area. One very reputable hospital told me it was their policy to never discuss price. The rest simply did not know--it was handled by the specialists who deal with insurance and price was not the concern. How much I appreciate it that your prices are posted!
But free market is not the answer to everything, only to many things. Regulation in a state that puts Christ at the center can be judicious and prudent and at times necessary.
Marc Jeric| 2.16.12 @ 12:13PM
President Obama issued a “diktat” – just like any Secretary General of a Communist Party – which commands every employer to offer “free” services of anti-contraception devices, sterilization, and abortifacients in the employer-offered health care insurance. Catholic and evangelical hospitals and clinics protested vigorously – and then he changed his orders and commanded that all health insurance companies must include such “free” services to all women without co-pay. He really is convinced that we are all idiots; perhaps after 3 generations of nincompoops have gone through the mis-education by our teachers unions he is not all that wrong. So every employer must buy what is offered regardless of any religious objection – and that is a “free” service with no co-pay! In other words the cost is hidden in the overall health care insurance premiums – which of course will be increased to cover those hidden costs. Eventually that cost increase will not matter at all – all those health insurance companies are destined to be nationalized anyway and replaced by the government health agency. Obama’s philosophy here is based on the opinion that pregnancy is a mortal desease, like tuberculosis or influenza or black plague that must be fought against by any means necessary.
Kathy| 2.16.12 @ 12:28PM
For a really good analysis of all this Professor Paul Rahe Professor of History and Catholic at Hillsdale has written an excellent article at the following link:
http://ricochet.com/main-feed/.....-the-Devil
I would suggest you read it as it sez it all....and relevant to this thread
Kathy| 2.16.12 @ 12:28PM
For a really good analysis of all this Professor Paul Rahe Professor of History and Catholic at Hillsdale has written an excellent article at the following link:
http://ricochet.com/main-feed/.....-the-Devil
I would suggest you read it as it sez it all....and relevant to this thread
Kathy| 2.16.12 @ 12:28PM
For a really good analysis of all this Professor Paul Rahe Professor of History and Catholic at Hillsdale has written an excellent article at the following link:
http://ricochet.com/main-feed/.....-the-Devil
I would suggest you read it as it sez it all....and relevant to this thread
dlr| 2.16.12 @ 12:40PM
She has gotten her 20 pieces of silver and then some. She betrays her faith, herself, and the American people.
Todd S| 2.16.12 @ 2:47PM
30 is the number you are looking for
With God all things r possible| 2.16.12 @ 7:37PM
The price of a slave, presumably male, was 30 pieces of silver. Perhaps the price for women slaves was different, depending on their value.
Todd S| 2.16.12 @ 11:23PM
The reference is Judas Iscariot's betrayal of Christ which I think is appropriate for this money grubbing wench.
dagbat| 2.16.12 @ 1:05PM
Kudos to Mr. Neumayr for a powerful and insightful expose of sister Keehan and her CHA cohorts.
The forces of secularism include many stealth Catholics like sister Keehan who over time have infiltrated the Church and attained key leadership positions. Others have attained leadership positions in government, academia, and mass media.
It is time for the Church Bishops to re-assert their authority as the official Voice of the Church starting with the dismantling of the cartel of internal and external secular Catholic renegades who are collectively spreading their personal brand of watered down Catholicism and moral standards. If the renegades object then the Church should take immediate, public, and decisive action – demotion and/or refusal to take Holy Communion.
Seek| 2.16.12 @ 1:18PM
That's what I like -- an advocate of genuine independent thought.
Derek Leaberry| 2.16.12 @ 1:33PM
Beware any nun out of their habits. All are Catholic in name only.
SeymourGlass| 2.16.12 @ 2:34PM
I tend to beware of anyone who judges anyone else's religious committment. Once I have myself perfected, I'll start pointing fingers at others.
Neal| 2.16.12 @ 3:04PM
Supporting amnesty,pedophilia,community organizing. What a great church.
Nick| 2.16.12 @ 3:20PM
"So put away all malice and all guile and insincerity and envy and all slander." - 1 Peter 2:1
G. Keith Smith, M.D. | 2.16.12 @ 3:17PM
I have been flogging these greedy not-for-profit pigs here in Oklahoma for some time now. The Sisters of Mercy(less) have bilked billions from the sick with their mission here. Great article!
G. Keith Smith, M.D.
Die Fledermaus| 2.16.12 @ 3:41PM
Boo hoo hoo. The Catholic Church has gotten drunk and gone to bed with the statist for decades. Now that morning is here and they find out the statist isn't as good looking as she was last night they want sympathy?
Live by liberalism, die by liberalism.
cicero| 2.16.12 @ 4:08PM
To read these comments, and the various articles that have come out, you would think that the bishops were tricked. Where have you all been. These guys have been on the side of the Progressives from day one. They have supported every government that promised to relieve them of their responsibilities for decades. If they were living up to their faith, and its mandates, they would have beeen throwing excommunications around like thunderbolts. When was the last one? Can't remember? How about when the Supremes found a right to abortion - nope. How about when any Catholic politition spoke for, or sponsored legislation providing for abortion on demand, partial birth abortion, etc. - nope. Unless and until the Catohoic Church, through its princes - bishops - start owning up to their responsibilities, they can be considered nothing more than a joke. Their parishes are social gathering places for feel good meetings. Any good they do is overshadowed by their total lack of courage. Were the Colleseum in business today, they would be selling popcorn. What a shame.
Until Sebellius, Biden, Pelosi, and any other politition who espouses abortion are excommunicated, the Catholic Church in America has no credibility.
JP| 2.16.12 @ 4:48PM
I think it was Saint John Crysotom who wrote, "The road to Hell is paved with the skulls of Bishops." On that grim note we are reminded of Christ's admonitions against harming or leading his "children" astray (it is better to tie a millstone around one's neck and jump into a river). Church doctrine is serious business. And the Bishop's obligations and responsibilities do not end at death. Far from it.
Simon Templar| 2.16.12 @ 5:28PM
For those with strong opinions and cutting divisiveness.
Listen to the words of your master..
Matthew 7:15-20
You Will Know Them by Their Fruits
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
Simon Templar| 2.16.12 @ 5:55PM
Just a few thoughts for all those on this thread.
The issue here is who stands for truth and those that do not. As conservatives, my hope is you stand with truth wherever you find it.
The fact of the matter is that we are in a war here between those that want to uphold traditional values and the values of christian-judeo tradition and belief versus those that would destroy them, compromise them, or alter them for political agenda. The latter you can find in all churches and all faiths.
Do not be surprised that the Catholic church has succumbed to progressive ideologies and all sorts of unbiblical ideas that contradict its core faith and tenets. Hell, we can not even control the progressive rot within the GOP let alone the nation as a whole.
So, let us all OWN UP to what is going on in all these churches Catholic and non-catholic and knock off rooting for our teams and tearing the others down. Catholics need to start confronting the unholiness and filth that has infected their churches just like the protestants. Take a damn good look at what is happening in the United Methodist churches.
Unite with those in other faiths that share your conservative values, your foundation values, and your beliefs.
You call yourself christians, then act like them...your master comes first, your denominations and your churches last. There are no protestants and there are no catholics, there are only those that will die and fight for the truth.
WL| 2.17.12 @ 12:12AM
I second that!!! Well Said.
dudette| 2.16.12 @ 6:20PM
I believe "sister" keehan is above all a liberal who infiltrated the convent to shove the Catholic church leftward. No way is she a Catholic first. Her allegiance is to the religion of liberalism.. There have been many priests and nuns who were infiltrators, now they are in place and are performing their true life's work as liberal activists. This is what happened during the secularization of the Church of the 60's and we are still bogged down with this garbage.
DaveS| 2.16.12 @ 7:23PM
Sister Whoever is not the issue: the bishops are the issue. When Cardinal-select Dolan says Catholics were betrayed by Obama, it just states the obvious: too many prelates and priests voted for the dope. He was certainly among them.
J.P. Travis | 2.16.12 @ 7:25PM
Question is: how can this woman masquerade as a Catholic? Who runs this order and allowed themselves to be bought by her "salary" redirection?
WL| 2.16.12 @ 11:07PM
Dear Catholics...
Your church is in serious trouble. Please start thinking of ways to convince everyone you know to side with the half of your clergy who choose the right path.
This Obama (puppet) assault is starting to come into focus more and more every day. I am starting to think that it is even less about politics, reelection, or even hurting conservatives as much as it is about destroying your church, or at least the American sector of it.
The level of infiltration that is described here did NOT start with Obama. It's just happens to be strong enough now and the time is right for driving a wedge, in order to split it. I pray that I am wrong, but if this FIRST move proves at all successful, the second and third and successive moves will start happening faster and faster. They may play out as addtional issues...or issues in addtional places around the world.
IF, the goal of cracking the catholic church is ever reached. All of the rest of Christianity can take a number and wait for their turn. Also, and maybe even more importantly, if the Catholic Church or Christianity overall is damaged, that leaves a power, monetary, and social vacuum for guess who.....our friends under the crescent moon.
Never forget that to most Muslims:
Isreal is the Little Satan - and -
The United States is the Big Satan
NOW, start posting about how I am a kook. I'm ready for it.
T. Pennell!!! I agree with your post!
dagbat| 2.17.12 @ 1:17AM
I think HHS has been a wakeup call to the Catholic leadership. Recent actions taken by the Bishops (USCCB) under Cardinal designate Dolan indicate that they are now finally realizing that the Church is under attack from a President and an administration of secular zealots who are diametrically opposed to basic Catholic dogma and tenets, and who want to impose their godless government agenda on the rest of us. What is especially hopeful however is that the mix of Bishops within the USCCB is now much less liberal than it used to be. I think we are going to see a new and energized USCCB who will be leading and defending the flock from the front lines, and they will be fighting to win, not to compromise. Our job is to join the fight in whatever way we can to assure a final victory – time, talent, treasure….
Antonio A. Badilla| 2.19.12 @ 8:46PM
I think you are reading the bishops correctly now, but there was a time, not too long ago, when they supported the Party of Death thus contradicting what Blessed John Paul II was calling the culture of life.
ella8| 2.17.12 @ 9:47AM
No you are not a kook. Most of the people I know who are crazy for Obama, excluding the useful idiots, are anti-Catholic and anti-Christian bigots. A few of them I know had a bad Catholic School experience and now fight religiosly not to defend Planned Parenthood and abortion rights, but to cram it down everyone's throat. Why do you think the Komen foundation was bully whipped back into shape when they decided to keep their own money so it could be distributed to causes that actually contribute to the battle against breast cancer.
Todd S| 2.17.12 @ 10:13AM
ella8,
I think you should consider the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints because I can guarantee you that you will never hear the "social justice" garbage there that has infected many churches. Maybe you have heard negative things about them but I think you should check it out for yourself. Also the ministry is all lay and volunteer and protecting the family against the evils of the world is the number one focus. There is a reason a very small percentage of active LDS members voted for Obama as opposed to Catholics.
dagbat| 2.17.12 @ 11:23AM
Todd,
I think the Catholic Church is finally realizing that it made a mistake in trying to embrace government social programs under the banner of a morally right "social justice" theme. The Bishops are realizing that government has no morality; and that this administration is anti-religious, anti-Catholic, to boot. Religion and secular government can never be combined. They are polar opposites. The Church should never have gone down this road, but that is how the Church mistakenly operates sometimes. The Church is run by people, through its leaders the Bishops, and because of that the Church is not perfect. Traditional Catholics believe that in spite of the Church's many "human based" shortfalls, in the end it will prevail and stay true to its core teachings and beliefs in Jesus Christ. History has proven this out time and time again. I know little of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints so it is really good to hear that on this issue at least, we are together in our beliefs. Who knows, maybe this is God's real plan in the long run...
Todd S| 2.17.12 @ 5:56PM
Well the last couple Pope's have been quite good I think about what their Church should stand for but it seems to me that he is disregarded quite a bit by the Bishops in the US. Just look at Father Pfleger who was Rev. Wright's good buddy, something is clearly wrong when clowns like him make a mockery of the faith and nothing is done about it. I know there are good Bishops that strive to honor the Church's beliefs and do good for their fellow man but there seems to be alot of corruption within from politics and money.
Not going to get in a doctrinal dispute about the LDS Church vs Catholics but I can say our Church stays out of the political fray usually (Prop 8 being the main exception) and focuses on living moral lives and personal charity. I know some good Mormons that are of the liberal persuasion but they seem to have some kind of cognitive dissonance going on. When your Church teaches plainly that gay marriage is an affront to God and that abortion is a grave sin, supporting someone like Obama and Pelosi is practically heretical. Don't even get me started on Harry Reid, he sold himself out a long time ago to mammon.
ella8| 2.17.12 @ 12:57PM
Thanks, I actually have looked into it, and I have read part of the Book of Mormon. I have not ruled it out and I do not believe any of the negative things people tell me about the LDS. If that is where God leads me, then so be it.
Todd S| 2.17.12 @ 5:39PM
That is good to hear ella8, just take your time to find what you feel the spirit guides you to. It is not the easiest Church to live because it does demand quite a bit but God expects alot of us. I am not one to push my beliefs but from what you have expressed, it could be a good fit for what you are looking for. I have not been the best member myself at times but I know I feel better when I am making a good effort to live what I feel to be right and not get stuck in the ways of the world. God bless
Cathy| 2.17.12 @ 11:13AM
I loved your article! The institutions of the Church have indeed LEFT the Church some time ago on a socialist Marxist experiment. I might say, an experiment already tried and failed! The Church gets raked over the coals for many things in the media that are unrighteous but this article is dead on.
Kate| 2.17.12 @ 2:14PM
And here I thought that Catholic nuns took a vow of poverty!!! Silly me. More like a vow of corruption.
Vin| 2.17.12 @ 3:03PM
Of course, Sister knows that this mandate is in line with Frederick S. Jaffe's (VP PP) memo dated 3/11/69 to Bernard Berelson (Pres. World PopulationCouncil) which can be found on line, re birth control, destruction of families, pushing homosexual agenda, indoctrination of children, encouraging women to work, etc. which appears to be on schedule. Didn't Obama try in his first year to push end of life panels? I'm sure that is in the Obamacare plan. The focus is on population control, especially the poor and disabled, and with the elderly made to feel guilty for living, euthanisia is close behind. Sister believes she is doing God's work. How sick is that?
ella8| 2.17.12 @ 4:35PM
Wow I had never seen that memo before. I am sure there are some who will claim it is a conspiracy, but much on that list has already come to be. Add that to some of the radicals that Obama has given authoritarian power to, quite frightening.
Pete McNesbitt| 2.18.12 @ 10:59AM
Ah jesus christ you are a bunch of fricking idiots. The so called death panels are nothing more than complicated than a having a doctor talk to you about a Living Will. Where you say what kind of care you want at the end of your life. If more people would fill these out there would be a lot less useless medical care and dollars spent at the end of your life. Nobody gets out alive. Even jesus had to die to get to heaven. I don't know why people think its immoral to even discuss having a plan for when its time go. Get a fricking clue.
Steve| 2.18.12 @ 1:25PM
You dash off this bit of vitriol as if you actually were informed. You are not. The more obamacare is unveiled the more it looks like exactly what our worst fears predicted. Stooges like you, running cover for this outrage, will pay the price right along side the rest of us in the end.
jb| 2.17.12 @ 4:08PM
I thought nuns were supposed to be poor. When will Obama ask the "how much is enough?" question of this shameless profiteer? I mean this single woman does not need $1MM per year to live on when average american household with CHILDREN has income probably 10 times less than this woman.
Pete McNesbitt| 2.18.12 @ 11:10AM
Why should nuns be poor? Not all priests take up the vow of poverty so why should nuns? How many orders of nuns who weren't paid by the schools they taught for have had to sell the mother house because there is no money. Why is it there are collections for religious who need money to live into retirement. Its not like they had a spouses social security payment to live on. Do you know if she is keeping all the money for herself? Is it possible in your mean spirited comments that she may be sharing it within her order to make many peoples lives easier? And isn't the American way to make as much money as possible. So many people think they have the right to judge and pass judgement. Look to the Bible, is it not written Judge Not Lest You Will Be Judged...
Anne Simpson | 2.17.12 @ 4:37PM
May I suggest reading Paul Rahe's most excellent article entitled American Catholicism: Pace With The Devil. It may answer serious Catholics' question about the goings-on between the church and politicians. It helped me understand.
Anne Simpson | 2.17.12 @ 4:38PM
Sorry about that -- correct title American Catholicism: Pact With The Devil.
Tom Morrissey | 2.17.12 @ 4:46PM
I think I'm going to vomit.
su | 2.17.12 @ 7:13PM
Lack of character- they can always be bought.
"ho, no difference - just the price""""
Peggy James| 2.18.12 @ 7:56AM
this is an excellent article and summary of this woman. Most people don't realize she does not stand for the Catholic church. She is misleading many uninformed and I am praying for her soul.
Jo| 2.18.12 @ 10:40AM
Why doesn't the Curch Excommunicate her?
Segis Burgs| 2.18.12 @ 10:43AM
No doubt she has sold her soul to the devil for a few pieces of silver. Talking about Judases!!!
Mouse| 2.18.12 @ 2:41PM
This all makes me sick. How rightly did Jesus say, "You cannot serve God and mammon." You know what makes me sad? That St Vincent de Paul and St Louise de Marillac had such love for the poor and for poverty, and this is what the order they founded has come to. Truly, truly sad.
Mike Rogers | 2.18.12 @ 7:14PM
Oh, I heard that stumbling Dolan was up for Cardinalship. Clearly he hasn't earned it, and I hope Benedict reads US news.
Zita| 2.18.12 @ 10:23PM
What a mean, disrespectful, piece of demagoguery; you clearly know nothing about religious orders of nuns; Sr. Carol Keehan's salary goes to support many aging Sisters in her community--many who worked for YEARS and for NOTHING in hospitals and nursing homes. Compared to the cardinals and bishops who covered up sex abusing priests (and who continue to LIE about it) and now pay millions (drawn from the coffers of old people) to settle law suits, her salary is paltry. Shame on you! I'm sorry I wasted time reading your ridiculous and hateful rant.
Linda| 2.18.12 @ 11:56PM
What a sad mockery of Christianity.
John otc| 2.19.12 @ 12:42AM
Sister Keehan, I pray that our Lord open your eyes to the many murders that you have encouraged through your remarks. The hidden "voluntary murders (Genesis 4:10)" inflicted by contraceptives and abortifacients are sins that cry to heaven for vengeance.
Larry Schwartz| 2.19.12 @ 3:31AM
I can't believe you were so critical of the bishops and especially Cardinal-designate Dolan. You completely ignored the fact that Sister Keehan was part of the negotiations and Dolan was not. Of course she's going to be more prepared to respond to the announcement. She knew what was coming and had time to prepare a response. Dolan had to act on the fly. That's like expecting a player not in the huddle to know exactly what to do at the line of scrimmage without knowing the call. That fact is, Obama wants the bishops and Dolan to look bad. That's his goal.
It's completely unfair and really irresponsible journalism to paint Dolan with such a brush. The fact is he is an outstanding leader and he is handling himself well though this attack. I'm confident you wouldn't do so well with the cards stacked against you. In this time of increasing religious prececution, we need to support our bishops. Otherwise the church will more and more become the enemy of the state which will lead to a disasterous conclusion not just for Catholics but the entire nation.
Mark Anderson| 2.19.12 @ 11:52PM
They aren't "Little Sisters" Boy George.
Larry De Cristo | 2.21.12 @ 9:02AM
We know the Catholic Church was founded by
Jesus Christ,in Jersalam 33 A.D.
Saint Jude wrote his Catholic Epistle warning the faithful to contend earnestly for the True faith first delivered to them and (beware of heretics)
To Restore all things in Christ. Saint Jude's Eddystone Pa. Former Coordinator SSPX
Larry De Cristo | 2.21.12 @ 9:02AM
We know the Catholic Church was founded by
Jesus Christ,in Jersalam 33 A.D.
Saint Jude wrote his Catholic Epistle warning the faithful to contend earnestly for the True faith first delivered to them and (beware of heretics)
To Restore all things in Christ. Saint Jude's Eddystone Pa. Former Coordinator SSPX
Ed Klein| 2.23.12 @ 10:44AM
We in the Tampa/Clearwater/St. Pete area must organize to defeat Obama! I am busy and cannot lead this effort but I am willing to participate and be part of a team to let my fellow Catholics know about those called Catholic who are selfish and very anti-life. Email me or call me at 727-786-5695. I am the only one who answers this phone. Ed Klein, Clearwater "The Tutor and the Tennis Player" with many contacts
Pete | 2.24.12 @ 1:15AM
Jesus knew how to drive the money-changers from the Temple. There should have been a strong, unequivocal, united front of Catholic Bishops and all other clergy to tell this president that his proposal was unacceptable. Period.
Kathleen E. Stratton | 4.17.12 @ 6:48PM
Somebody needed to expose Sr. Keehan, the nun whose actions are all about making money for herself. Or maybe she just believes all American s deserve health care. Is that too simple a concept for you?