CPAC certifies candidate's status as Romney alternative.
Several reporters, photographers, and TV camera crews were
crowded into a small conference room Friday afternoon at the
Marriott Wardman Park hotel in Washington. Hundreds of people were
lined up outside the room, waiting to enter the "Rick Santorum Meet
& Greet" which the program of the Conservative Political Action
Conference (CPAC) listed as scheduled to begin at 1:30 p.m. The
appointed time slipped past and, like the crowd waiting in line,
some in the media gang inside the room began to grow impatient at
the delayed arrival of the candidate, who had given a well-received
speech that morning in the hotel's main ballroom.
"We're a long way from Iowa," I remarked to Santorum
spokesman Hogan Gidley, recalling how few reporters had covered the
underdog candidate during the long months he spent crisscrossing
the Hawkeye State and speaking to small groups of Republican
voters. A mere two months earlier, in mid-December, Santorum had
been sixth in the
Real Clear Politics average of Iowa polls, with less than six
percent. He had somehow miraculously surged to a win in Iowa, then
endured a month of disappointing finishes in New Hampshire, South
Carolina, Florida and Nevada, Now, fresh from triple victories last
Tuesday in Colorado, Minnesota, and Missouri, the former
Pennsylvania senator was riding a wave of momentum, attracting the
kind of crowds (and swarming media coverage) that follow a bona
fide presidential contender.
At last, the candidate arrived, eliciting applause and
cheers from his waiting supporters. Santorum answered a couple of
questions from the press gaggle, then did a brief TV interview with
Andrea Tantaros of Fox News, before the crowd outside was led in to
get their "grip-and-grin" moments with the candidate. While the
candidate shook hands and posed for photographs with the CPAC
attendees, I walked over to talk with his campaign's finance
director, Nadine Maenza, who confirmed previous reports that
Santorum had been raking in online donations at a pace of $1
million a day since Tuesday's trifecta. In fact, Maenza said, she
had been informed that the campaign had already collected a
half-million dollars that morning, so that total donations to
Santorum since Tuesday were already more than $3
million.
Such a windfall of campaign cash, like the crowds of
supporters and the swarming media coverage, is further evidence of
Santorum's status as the top rival to the Republican presidential
field's longtime frontrunner, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt
Romney. And the sudden tsunami of contributions is another contrast
to those long and often discouraging months that Santorum spent
wooing voters in Iowa. His entire campaign operation in 2011
collected less than $2.2 million in donations, which was less than
the amount he'd gotten in the 72 hours preceding the Friday
afternoon "meet and greet" event at CPAC. Of course, Santorum's
funds are still but a fraction of Romney's massive war chest, but
the influx of contributions almost guaranteed that the 2012 GOP
campaign's longtime underdog could keep up the fight through the
March 6 "Super Tuesday" primaries and beyond.
Santorum's second surge, which evoked memories of the
frenetic final week before the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses, gave
credibility to his claim to be the "consistent conservative"
alternative to Romney. While some pundits dismissed Santorum's
strong showing last week as an inconsequential bump in the road for
Romney, it helped Santorum establish at least a temporary
ascendancy over Newt Gingrich as the top "Not Mitt" candidate in
the Republican race. Santorum has now notched four wins against
Romney, while Gingrich has been unable to replicate his lone
victory, Jan. 21 in the South Carolina primary. Gingrich's stumbles
in the past three weeks appear to have badly damaged the former
House Speaker's chances. Few could argue with Gingrich's assertion
that Romney won Florida's Jan. 31 primary mainly on the strength of
"money power" that funded an overwhelming torrent of TV attack ads
in the Sunshine State, but Gingrich's subsequent defeats looked a
lot more like self-inflicted wounds.
The Gingrich campaign in Nevada was an ill-organized
disaster, and he compounded his Feb. 4 defeat there with a petulant
performance at a post-caucus press conference. Then came Tuesday's
embarrassing wipeout. Gingrich hadn't even qualified for the ballot
in Missouri, where Santorum scored a solid 55 to 25 percent win
over Romney. Gingrich finished a weak third (13 percent) in the
Colorado caucuses, where Santorum beat Romney 40 to 35 percent, and
Gingrich placed a distant fourth (11 percent) in Minnesota, where
Santorum got 45 percent to Romney's 27 percent and Texas Rep. Ron
Paul's 17 percent. This string of February drubbings suggested an
astonishingly swift meltdown for Gingrich, who in January had
repeatedly claimed that he was the only Republican candidate
capable of beating Romney, while occasionally suggesting that
Santorum should quit the race. After Gingrich's recent three-week
losing streak, it is unlikely Newt will be repeating those claims
and suggestions again anytime soon. Indeed, several reports in the
past week indicate that the Gingrich campaign is now facing a
serious financial crunch, with Las Vegas casino mogul
Sheldon Adelson reportedly ending his contributions to a
pro-Gingrich "super PAC."
The bad news for Newt continued at the three-day
conservative conference in Washington, where CPAC attendees gave
Gingrich just 15 percent of the vote in
Saturday's straw poll. The media made much of Romney's victory
in the CPAC straw poll -- 38 percent to Santorum's 31 percent --
but the fact that Santorum beat Gingrich by more than a 2-to-1
margin was arguably more significant. And while there was some
sarcastic scoffing when Santorum first accused Romney of having
"rigged" a victory Saturday, reports by the
New York Times and
Politico's Jonathan Martin confirmed that
Santorum was factually correct: The Romney campaign paid for CPAC
registrations and bused in supporters to ensure a win in the
closely watched straw poll. Romney's win in Saturday's Maine caucus
was untainted by any such suggestion of illegitimacy. Another
fourth-place finish for Gingrich, who got just 6 percent of the
Maine vote, added emphasis to the weeklong streak of evidence that
Newt's campaign is fading while Santorum's is surging.
With more than two weeks to go before the next round of
primaries (Feb. 28 in Arizona and Michigan), it is impossible to
rule out another stunning upheaval in this year's turbulent
Republican race. Already, the Romney campaign has begun
re-targeting its brutal attack machine to take on Santorum,
releasing negative "oppo" (opposition research) to the media, while
the pro-Romney "super PAC" Restore Our Future buys Internet ads
portraying Santorum as a proponent of pork-barrel spending. Being
attacked by Team Mitt, however, could be seen as still more proof
that Santorum's surge has made him the leading conservative
opponent to Romney. And with Gingrich now evidently on the ropes,
Santorum may be positioned to emerge as the last man standing
against Romney. How long he can remain standing is a question that
will be answered in the days and weeks ahead.
If Santorum had any real meaningful deep support, he'd have a
lot more money to run his campaign.
That little bit of money shows that the deep pockets and even
the rank and file do not take him seriously.
Why is he hanging around? Bored? Feels his vision is
important?
Where was that vision while he was in the U.S. Congress?
He supported Medicare Part D which dwarfs Romneycare. Where are
those conservative credentials he keeps talking about?
There aren't any. That's why there isn't any big money behind
him.
Jack in Wi.| 2.13.12 @ 7:13AM
Santorum isn't even on the ballot in several states. He has
little support among independents, young people, disaffected
Democrats, and about half the Republicans. If by some miracle he
would be the nominee, I expect he would lose by about the 20 points
he did in Penn.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 2.13.12 @ 7:33AM
You're an optimist.
florin| 2.13.12 @ 9:33AM
Santorum could have surged ahead but after CPAC he started
whining about how Romney had more of his people there to vote...if
he continues whining like a baby - well, like gingrich really - he
will lose the respect of those who support him. Romney didn't whine
after it turned out he had lost Iowa to Santorum...
darcy| 2.14.12 @ 3:57AM
Whining?
The fact is that CPAC participation can be packed, that is,
attendance slots can be bought up by groups, and that includes
candidates; you remember, I'm sure, that the Paulbots attended in
droves several CPAC's ago and Ron Paul won the straw poll. No
surprise there. huh? I guess you didn't know that about CPAC,
florin.
How could Romney "whine" about losing to Santorum in Iowa? No
one even knew about the Santorum win until at least a week later, a
week in which everyone thought that Romney had won?
Where do we get these people who make such ridiculous
comments?
Bobloblaw| 2.14.12 @ 6:43PM
waiting for Paul to win a state
skedaddle| 2.13.12 @ 8:22AM
And Santorum's win in Missouri, which is meaningless, was
orchestrated by state Democrats. I had one call and offer to take
me to the poll or babysit my kids so I could vote for Santorum.
He's an empty suit that 0bama could win against easily.
emilio lizardo, phD| 2.13.12 @ 9:35AM
exactly. Just the latest non-Romney flavor of the week ala
Perry, Cain, Gingrich. Forget about him
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:03PM
Romney himself is the non-Romney. Figuring out where he stands
is like nailing Jello to the wall. I expect Reps will throw his
lever this fall if he's the nominee, but it's going to be like it
was with Dole and McShamnesty. They won't like it, and a lot of
people are going to stay home.
Alas, Santorum is the best of a bad lot. At least i wouldn't
have to hold my nose too tightly. With Mittens, I doubt I could get
past the stench to get into the booth.
Bobloblaw| 2.14.12 @ 6:45PM
Your Romney can still be the candidate,l but he'll never be
president. In order to become the candidate, he has to trash
Santorum like he has Gingrich. That will be the end of what little
good will he has in the conservative movement. The GOP-E thinks
that the base hates Obama so much, they will rally behind
Romney.....dont count on it
Actually, the money is coming in, and will very likely continue,
especially of he does well against Mittens in Michigan.
Todd| 2.14.12 @ 2:10AM
Amazing all the Romney gang posting here. Rick Santorum will win
Michigan which will probably be the end of Newt's campaign and will
expose Romney as very weak. Santorum is beating Romney, Newt and
Ron Paul who all have a lot more money. Rick has done this with
peanuts. The money spent by Mitt and Newt is pretty staggering. I
like Ron Paul but Rick is better positioned to become
President.
Rick Santorum is very strong in the Midwest and can win the key
states in November like MO,MI,PA,OH and FL to name a few.
Rick Santorum is attracting young people plus Evangelicals and
Catholics. Rick was very popular with the young folks at CPAC.
Obama has tee'd up a major gift with mandatory abortion for church
insurance. This is very unpopular with all Christians. Rick
Santorum will win the Catholic vote as well as all Christians in
November and will be elected President.
Stalin is correct -- if Santorum had conservative credentials
the "big money" would get behind him. Sure, because all the
millionaires and billionaires I know simply love
independent-thinking conservatives.
The little donations supporting Santorum are coming from little
people who have no concept of either conservatism or what's good
for them. Wall Street and Hollywood always support the conservative
in a race -- right? Where, among Santorum's supporters, is Goldman
Sachs? Where are the Las Vegas moguls? Where are the big-time
lobbyists? Where are the dozens of filthy-rich men and women
donating thousands and hundred-thousands -- the big bucks?
Instead, all Rick has is thousands and tens of thousands of
nobodies donating their measly twenties and fifties. Let's face up
to the facts -- if dollars counted instead of votes (as they
rightly should) Santorum would be running dead last.
As for him claiming to be conservative -- what a laugh. All he
has is ratings like these:
American Conservative Union -- 88%
National Right to Life Committee -- 100%
Americans for Tax Reform -- 95%
National Tax Limitation Committee -- 92%
U.S. Chamber of Commerce -- 88%
League of Private Property Voters -- 94%
Whereas our boy Romney has Wall Street, lobbyists, miilionaires,
Obamneycare, Cap and Tax, a whole stack of waffles, and a closet
full of flip-flops. Yea, Mitt!
Right on, my man! Democracy is too big to be left to the little
people. The puling masses have to be taught once again to take what
they're given! It's time for America to learn to lose with dignity
again!
Dude, sorry, didn't mean to jack your handle. My bad.
jstwndring| 2.13.12 @ 5:28PM
Plus, Mitt has backers like McCain, Dole, and Trump! I don't
know what more proof you need. I know I need think no further. My
betters have selected for me, and who am I to question their
collective (yes) wisdom?
You don't have to have conservative cred to get the bog money
behind you. You have to have establishment cred. Many conservatives
have discovered this fact to their chagrin.
We saw this in Ohio repeatedly. The establishment hated Ken
Blackwell, and when it was his turn, Taft had already so damaged
the GOP brand that Blackwell was just a sacrificial lamb. Ohio got
Strickland instead and they now have Blackwell permanently out of
the way.
Appleby| 2.13.12 @ 7:19AM
As long as Obama and his posse continue to try to dismantle the
Catholic Church, Rick Santorum will continue to surge. He is not
only a consistent Conservative, he's a consistant Catholic; indeed,
to many of us who (having been Mormons, some of us) do not believe
the LDS church is in fact Christian, he is the only consistent
Christian. Believe it or not, this still matters to a very large
group of people who are not out marching, chanting, waving signs,
and Demanding; we are living lives of quiet desperation just trying
to hang on until we can rid the government of Obama and his ilk in
the good old fashioned legal way.
To some of us, deep pockets and loads of cash are not what makes
the world go round. In fact, some of us find it hard to relate to
Mitt Romney because we have values not preceded by dollar
signs.
Jeremiah Smirking| 2.13.12 @ 7:55AM
Welll stated!
Tina B| 2.13.12 @ 8:53AM
Yes, very well stated.
Occam's Tool| 2.13.12 @ 4:58PM
In Minnesota, in my little precinct, which is predominantly
white and middle to upper middle class, all owning their own land,
Santorum won 56 votes to 18 for Paul to 8 for Romney to 2 for
Gingrich.
I have a feeling that Conservatives may start to favor
Santorum.
Todd| 2.14.12 @ 2:17AM
I know more than a few pray the rosary Catholics who insanely
voted for Obama. They are old school: union and Kennedy
Catholics.
I try to avoid them so I do not lose it. They will not be voting
Obama this time and they like Rick Santorum. Obama's attacks on
Catholics is finally getting these people to wake up. Obama won the
Catholic vote in 2008. Rick Santorum will be the nominee and he
will win the Catholic vote plus the evangelical vote plus other
Christians who realize Obama is attacking Christianity. Hopefully
more Catholics will remember The Battle of Lepanto.
Von Mises Jr.| 2.13.12 @ 7:37AM
This is amusing in that it is similar to the old adage of "don't
interfere when your enemy is committing suicide."
Santorum simply shut up while Romney leveled a vicious attack on
Newt, and Newt responded with venom. Besides being the beneficiary
of his contenders ravaging each other, it takes the sting somewhat
out of any attack Romney now directs toward him.
Romney has made it clear for all those with eyes to see that his
strategy is to seek and destroy, not win on merit. Like Obama's
class warfare, people turn off to it over time.
Vern Crisler| 2.13.12 @ 9:40AM
I agree. Those conservatives who are banking on Santorum don't
realize that the Romney smear machine hasn't gone into full swing
against Santorum. Newt's momentum was blocked in Florida by
Romney's money, which won over the Republican whores in Florida.
Santorum is going to have the same problem when Romney spreads his
money around in other states and launches incessant smears against
Santorum.
Since Florida Newt has not been able to get back his earlier
momentum. Remember, he was always down in the polls throughout much
of the Republican debates, but surged at the last minute, only to
have it undermined by the Romney attack machine in Iowa.
I think Newt's problem now is that he's listening to his
advisers telling him he has to tone it down, be more presidential.
He did that in the last two debates and it was a disaster.
Let Newt be Newt. He needs to be himself, and use the remaining
debates to regain his momentum. He doesn't need to listen to
"conservative" shills for Romney claiming that he is "petulant." He
needs to ignore all the psychobabble.
We want the Newt of the South Carolina debates, not the Newt of
the Florida debates. Are you listening, Gingrich campaign? Let Newt
be Newt.
Von Mises Jr.| 2.13.12 @ 10:32AM
Santorum will work to repeal ObamaCare because it is his moral
commitment. Newt will work to repeal ObamaCare because he is
insightful and wants to find an elevated place in history. Romney
just wants to be President and redeem his father.
This is why I can be excited about either Newt or Rick Santorum,
but will hold my nose if I must vote for Mitt.
Old Soldier| 2.13.12 @ 11:21AM
I wish Rick had been morally opposed to Medicare Drugs. If he
had, he might still be a U.S. Senator.
Occam's Tool| 2.13.12 @ 4:59PM
Well, I think the boy is capable of learning. Remember, Medicare
D was a mainstream Republican position at the time.
It also works pretty well compared to the rest of the Medicare
system. Costs a lot less at least.
Old Soldier| 2.14.12 @ 8:21AM
I remember - that's when they stopped getting my money.
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:11PM
In my opinion, Santorum would have lost his senate seat
regardless. Bush had seriously damaged the GOP brand, and we paid
for it in Congress in 2006 and 2008. Santorum wasn't the only one
to go down.
If anything weighed the man, other than the GOp brand, it was
endorsing Snarlin' Arlen instead of Toomey. Santorum has regretted
that saying it wasn't a smart move on his part. He might have done
it to be decent to Specter who had helped him, but there are things
that decency would require of you that go beyond helping someone
that helped you. Specter got his eventually, but Santorum paid a
high price for doing something rather stupid.
Todd| 2.14.12 @ 2:23AM
Bush and Rove also supported Specter. Rick was not thrilled
about supporting Specter either. I loathed Specter and donated to
Toomey even though I am not in PA.
What was wonderful "conservative" Pat Toomey's first vote? To
repeal Do Ask, Don't Tell. Pat Toomey is a RINO traitor of the
highest magnitude. Rick Santorum would have voted against the
repeal.
RINO-MA Scott Brown also voted to repeal "Don't Ask, Don't
Tell." Hey Pat and Scott - send my donation money back to me.
Bobloblaw| 2.14.12 @ 6:49PM
You dont seriously think that Santorum lost PA, a state with the
second largest numb er of seniors in the country, because he voted
for Bush's medicare bill ??? He lost because he become 2006 was a
bad year and he became too associated with social issues. In 1994
and 2000, Santorum carried the PHL suburbs. In 2006 he lost them by
more than 20 points.
Wayne| 2.15.12 @ 11:39AM
Nobody in Pa can beat the name Robert Casey. It is holy:
especially among the older, Roman Catholic, conservative Democrats.
These are the voters Republicans MUST win in order to be elected.
Santorum could not beat the name.
Mitt Romney is the spiritual heir of Meg Whitman, not Ronald
Reagan, and the voters will reject him as they rejected her.
martin j smith| 2.13.12 @ 7:44AM
It is now time to attack Obama full throttle. Santorun must get
beyond Romney and do so.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.13.12 @ 7:45AM
Anybody but obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dave Williams| 2.13.12 @ 12:55PM
Right behind you, brother.
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:12PM
OMG = Obama Must Go!
Stammon| 2.13.12 @ 7:57PM
Obama delenda est!
Stammon| 2.13.12 @ 7:57PM
Obama delenda est!
Tim the Enchanter| 2.14.12 @ 9:02AM
Carthage, too!
Adjoran| 2.13.12 @ 8:05AM
Santorum can certainly raise the money now, if current trends
continue, to fund him for the next month or two at least. His
bigger problem may be building organizations in the upcoming states
where he has little or no presence yet.
Gingrich's steep fall wasn't "astonishing" to me or anyone who
has followed him through his career. He always self-destructs,
often over minor things his overblown ego just can't let go.
It seems almost certain at this point to become a two-man race
for the nomination between Santorum and Romney, with Paul getting
some share of delegates along the way.
At least this means we will have a nominee of unassailable
personal character. That certainly doesn't guarantee a win, but at
least one sure line of attack is blocked.
My wife tried to send Santorum a donation on line last week and
all the lines were jammed. He must be doing something right.
Eagerly waiting for the show to come to the Wolverine state. We
have to start digging out of our hole sometime.
Vern Crisler| 2.13.12 @ 9:43AM
How has Newt self-destructed? He simply doesn't have the money
to respond to all the Romney smears.
scotchieguy| 2.13.12 @ 11:00AM
He looked ridiculous going after Romney's career as "a job
killer." Who does he work for, Obama?
Garfield| 2.13.12 @ 2:02PM
Actually I think Gingrich made a valid point you just haven't
thought things through.
Think about Obama's campaign tactics of class warfare, Gingrich
was pointing out why Obama wants Romney to be the Republican
nominee.
Mtncougar| 2.14.12 @ 1:23AM
Romney's Bain Capital IS a job killer. That's not from Newt ...
that is said by a Reagan conservative venture capitalist. (see link
below)
Romney is the prototypical country club wall street corporate
rich Republican, and Bain is his achilles heel. Romney needs to be
vetteed on Bain (you can bet the MSM will), and if left alone Newt
would have helped.
Here's the interview with the Reagan conservative venture
capitalist on Bain (below). It is easy to understand and very
sobering. Romney will get crushed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....e=youtu.be
Newt made two huge mistakes early on -- claiming he had the
nomination in the bag before Iowa voted, and publicizing his desire
to go after appeals judges.
The third big mistake was to respond to Romney's attacks in kind
rather than rise above them. Newt beats Newt.
Vern Crisler| 2.13.12 @ 11:57AM
In Iowa Newt did exactly what you suggest: he tried to stay
above Romney's smears. Look what it got him. He realized that
negative ads work. He just doesn't have the money to match
Romney's.
I don't remember Newt saying he had the nomination in the bag.
His comments about bringing judges before Congress were simply
expressions of the same frustration that most of us have regarding
arrogant, out-of-control judges.
Newt's attack on Romney's Bain capital should have been more
focused on Romney rather than leave the impression he was attacking
capitalism. But he backed away from it after criticism, asking his
SuperPac to pull a Romney-type ad that naturally wasn't true.
So most of these criticisms of Newt are just the same old tired
charges that NR and AmSpec have been leveling at Newt, since these
publications are, after all, just shills for Romney.
Mimi| 2.13.12 @ 12:18PM
I think Newt is quiet now analyzing and dissecting the playing
field....At least Romney and his money is off his back!
If and when he sees a real rise in support of Santorum he will do
the HONORABLE thing and get out and support him.
He needs time, events , debates and POLLS...I think after super
Tuesday, early March we'll see!
I watched Newt's speech at CPAC he did the best job! He looked like
the logical person, his Ideas surperb...Why he didn't convince that
crowd was disapointing.....Time will tell, Newt a basically GOOD
& DECENT man loves his country, and will do what is right! That
I am convinced of!
Todd| 2.14.12 @ 2:28AM
Newt is a CFR member like Bill Clinton. They both have a habit
of self destruction and narcissism. Gingrich cannot manage his
personal life so his falling apart was expected. I have no interest
in anyone who supported Dede Scazzofava in NY state, global warming
with Pelosi and a Newt on video talking about GW with John Kerry or
a Newt who feeds at the Fannie/Freddie trough.
Rick Santorum or Ron Paul for me and Rick gets the edge. I don't
like Mitt but he does seem like a good family man.
Rick Santorum/Rand Paul 2012
Truth| 2.13.12 @ 8:22AM
You make at least one factual error: Mitt Romney lost to Ron
Paul in Minnesota: Ron Paul was the second place finisher with
27%.
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 9:03AM
" LAKE JACKSON, Texas– Congressman and 2012 Republican
Presidential candidate Ron Paul issued the following statement
regarding the Obama Administration’s announcement that religious
organizations must pay for contraception and sterilization under
the national health care law:
“Forcing private religious institutions to pay for contraception
and sterilization as part of their health care plans is a direct
assault on the First Amendment’s guarantee of religious liberty. On
my first day as President, I will reverse this policy. Repealing
the unconstitutional monstrosity known as ObamaCare is a major part
of my Plan to Restore America.
“I am the only GOP presidential candidate who has consistently
opposed the federal promotion, funding, and mandating of
contraception and abortion. Unlike Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum,
I never voted to provide taxpayer funding to Planned Parenthood.
And unlike Mitt Romney, whose Massachusetts health care plan
contained a contraceptive mandate similar to the one contained in
ObamaCare, I have never supported any government health care
mandates."
The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To A Brokered Convention.
Occam's Tool| 2.13.12 @ 5:00PM
That's nice. You know, Paul could be advocating a bill in the
House right now, but I don't see it. He did find time to advocate
for one for Marijuana legalization, but not for this.
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:14PM
Have you heard of anyone else introducing such a bill Occam? I
think Clint is a twit, but sometimes you come across as an
idiot.
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 7:40PM
I'm Not A Twit, I'm A Tea Party Patriot.
Lookin' For A Problem Quartermaster ?
Actually, You're Sounding Like A Twit Yourself,
Quartermaster.
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 7:19PM
"In 2005, 2007, 2009, and again in 2011, Dr.Ron Paul introduced
the Sanctity of Life Act, which would have life defined as
beginning at conception at the Federal level."
You're The Israel Firster,Who Said He'll Vote For The RINO-CINO
Frontman, Mittens Romney.
Interesting That You Hide BehindThe Moniker Of A Catholic
Heretic, Israel Firster Smear Bund Scum, Tool Job.
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 9:41AM
"While some pundits dismissed Santorum's strong showing last
week as an inconsequential bump in the road for Romney, it helped
Santorum establish at least a temporary ascendancy over Newt
Gingrich as the top "Not Mitt" candidate in the Republican
race."
Although "Spectator" most likely has not knowingly propagandized
for Mitt Romney, the above quote reflects the not-so-subtle
underlying biased narrative that has undergirded almost all
"reporting" on the nomination contest.
It is time for the Editors at Spectator to launch a new
narrative: "Santorum appears to be surging towards the
nomination!!" Or, "Santorum finally gets discovered!" Or, "Santorum
emerges on top, triumphing against all odds!" Or, "Romney has met
his match!!"
Vern Crisler| 2.13.12 @ 9:45AM
Not going to happen. AmSpec has chosen "electability" as its
standard, conservative values be damned.
loulou| 2.13.12 @ 9:51AM
Except that Romney's "electability" is a manufactured myth.
Nobody likes Romney except the GOP elites.
scotchieguy| 2.13.12 @ 11:02AM
George Will said on his ABC show that nothing is more unreliable
than saying someone is "inevitable" or "electable." They have been
saying that for months about Romney, and he is still around
25-30%.
It's kind of like saying that Man-made Global Warming is
"settled science," right? :)
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:15PM
What? You mean it's not? Have you told Albore?
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 7:27PM
You Owe Me An Apology.
This Phoney Post By The Israel Firster Smear Bund Poseur Punk
Poster, Over At "Bishops Reject Obama's 'Accommodation'
By G. Tracy Mehan, III",
Wasn't My Post.
" Clint| 2.13.12 @ 11:19AM
Jesus Was Catholic, Who Was Killed By The Joooooos1"
These Smear Bund Scum Poseur Punk Post Under Other's Names In An
Attempt To Smear Up, Marginalize And Mock Anyone,Who Doesn't Ass
Kiss Their Agenda.
Watch Yourself Around Them.
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 8:01PM
Note to self;
Shut up!
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 8:29PM
The Gutless Israel Firster Coward Has To Poseur Punk Post Under
My Name Because You Ain't Man Enough To Take Me On Man Up, Under
Your Own Name.
You Israel Firster Gutless Cowards Got A Bad Habit Of Hiding
Behind Others When The Fightin' Starts.
Old Soldier| 2.13.12 @ 11:23AM
There is a conservative running? Who?
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 9:52AM
One additional point that I wish the Editors would address: If
Romney has been "with the program" of conservatism for at least
four years now, and if he has had so much $$$$, then tell us this:
where was Romney in 2008? Was he spending millions of dollars to
attack Obama?
Why didn't Romney unleash his "brutal attack machine" in 2008
against Obama? Why didn't he lend a helping hand to McCain? Could
it be that Romney didn't want McCain to be President, and already
had in mind his run in 2012 against Obama? What does his passivity
in 2008 after McCain was nominated tell us about who he really is
and why he is really running?
I can't help but thinking that Romney is "in the game" the way
some corporate leaders run businesses -- for themselves and
themselves alone. Not for money, but for the sheer thrill of the
prestige and the power of "being President."
I believe it was the (late) CBS-TV commentator Eric Sevareid who
once said: “The difference between the men and the boys in politics
is, and always has been, that the boys want to be something, while
the men want to do something.” Romney, like GHWBush #41, has always
been a "boy" in politics. Someone whose ego is at stake.
Santorum, by comparison, has always worked to DO something in
politics. That is why he staked his career on standing down the
liberals at every turn. He did not back down from femi-nazi Boxer
when he stared her down on partial birth abortion. He showed
courage and tenacity in his efforts to save Terry Schiavo, whose
parents wanted her to live and whose husband wanted her to die. He
showed courage when he stood by his principles in 2006, standing by
George Bush despite the latter's unpopularity. He has repeatedly
shown integrity in the way he lives his personal life -- not just
talking the talk of pro-life but walking the walk.
Again I ask: If Romney had truly wanted McCain in 2008, where
was his "brutal attack machine" then? Why, it was put into
mothballs, with Romney secretly hoping that Obama would win and
give him his "chance" in 2012. How else to explain his "sin of
omission" of not spending a couple of tens of millions on ads to
help McCain then? He is worth hundreds of millions, after all, and
it would have been "pocket change," or "walking around $$$" to
him.
I dislike Romney intensely, but in fairness I have to say that
McShamnesty didn't want attack ads running against the OneWhoWun.
No, no, he wanted to be civil and take the high road, and tell us
we had nothing to worry about if Obama won.
obadiah| 2.13.12 @ 7:31PM
Terry Schiavo will be alive, healthy and happy when Rick
Santorum becomes President.
Anthony| 2.13.12 @ 10:14AM
As long as Romney needs a teleprompter to speak conservative,
Santorum will continue to rise as the alternative to moderate
Mitt.
Romney is nasty and vicious, I just hope, if he does get the
nomination, that he keeps this up on Obozo, and doesn't run another
campaign like that loser McCain did.
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 2:57PM
See my comment, just two above yours: Where was Romney's "attack
machine" in 2008? It isn't as if Romney is lacking for $$$ to have
run, easily, $40-million to $50-million of ads against Obama! No --
Romney sat out 2008, hoping McCain would lose so he would have his
"chance" in 2012. How else to explain his sitting on the sidelines
in 2008? At the least, he is guilty of the "sin of omission" of NOT
spending at least, say, $10-million in ads against Obama.
Al Adab| 2.13.12 @ 10:14AM
Simply put, the thing is, a Romney nomination will once again
lead the GOP to defeat. Time and again we follow these candidates
from Dewey on and time and again the GOP loses. To quote the old
song, "When will they ever learn?"
Even when on rare occasion we won with such, we have been
disappointed in the result. Government growth, deficit spending,
increased regulation and fail policies. There is no substance
here.
Insanity it doing the same thing over and over and expecting a
different result.
David| 2.13.12 @ 10:47AM
Santorum will provide the greatest contrast with Bam Bam.
Remember, Newt, Mitt, and Barack all hold the following
positions.
They believe in man-caused global warming baloney, and the
regulations and restrictions that have resulted from such thinking.
Santorum does not.
They supported the Wall Street bailouts. Santorum did not.
They support and/or supported individual mandates for health
insurance. Santorum never has.
They all criticized Paul Ryan's plan to get our fiscal house in
order. Santorum embraced it.
Santorum is of the opinion that ILLEGAL immigrants have not
broken ONE law (by crossing the border) as many claim, but that
they have continually been breaking America's laws by working here,
driving here, etc., and should NOT be rewarded for doing so.
Santorum cannot be accused of being a flip-flopper.
Santorum cannot be accused of telling people what they want to
hear.
Santorum cannot be accused of stating his positions based on the
particular audience in front of him at the time.
Santorum is a fighter for what he believes and has always been
the underdog in heavily democratic and union PA, and except for
once, he has always been a winner. He has been able to convince
democratic voters to stick with him for the very reason that he
stuck by his conservatives principles.
It is clear that Santorum has been the adult in this race. His
criticisms have been on the other candidates' records and he does
not distort or misrepresent their records as they do to one
another.
It is also clear that he has been the true, principled,
consistent conservative his entire politcal career.
scotchieguy| 2.13.12 @ 11:13AM
I agree with much of what you say. But for me, Santorum seems
like a perfect VP candidate.
We are missing the real candidate. This is like watching the
backing band warm up until the star shows up. Romney is NOT that
star. He is so glib, plastic, phony, etc. I literally can't watch
him speak anymore than I can watch Obama speak. Will Americans
really fall for Romney's BS if he becomes the nominee? I think
Obama wins big if that is the case. The only thing we can hope for
is someone like Jeb Bush, Ryan, Rubio, etc comes in to save the
day.
Todd| 2.14.12 @ 2:34AM
Oh Please. No Jeb and non open-borders Rubio lecturing us on how
we should love illegals. Rubio is amnesty Mel Martinez 2. Paul Ryan
- h*ll yeah! No brokered conventions.
Rick Santorum will win Michigan and it will be over for Newt and
Romney will look incredibly weak. The GOP establishment will start
pushing Jeb or some other pipe dream.
I could see Santorum/Ryan or Santorum/Rand Paul.
Old Soldier| 2.13.12 @ 11:26AM
Santorum spent like a drunken Rino while in the Senate on
Medicare Drugs among many other things.
Most of your list are positions he took after losing his
re-election campaign by 19 points.
Too much exaggeration! Soldier is beginning to sound like
O'Stalin.
Old Soldier| 2.13.12 @ 12:24PM
Details?
I know most of us have tried to block out the Bill Frist / Denny
Hastert Congress, but I never heard a peep out of Santorum when he
was running with that crowd.
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 6:32PM
So, Old Soldier, if it's Obama vs. Santorum, does it matter?
Old Soldier| 2.14.12 @ 8:23AM
Not much - one authoritarian against another.
I also doubt Santorum has any ability to appeal to
independents.
Todd| 2.14.12 @ 2:41AM
Time to do the honorable thing old soldier and fall on your
sword. I think you are the same old soldier over at FR bashing
Rick. Newt is done. He cannot handle his personal life let alone a
campaign or governing. His problems are way to long. Romney? No
thanks. Romney and Newt have spent a ton of money campaigning while
Rick barely had gas money. Santorum also did not have GOP support
and was being ignored by the media.
Your lot demonized Ron Paul even though his foreign policy
sounds more like Ike than anyone else. And Ron Paul is correct on
The (private) Federal Reserve (corporation).
Rick Santorum is winning evangelicals and Catholics plus he is
attracting more and more young people. At CPAC - younger voters
were charged up about Santorum. Rick is also youthful and a better
looking candidate than the rest of the field including The Looter
in Chief who is bankrupting America.
Obama carried the Catholic vote in 2008 but Santorum will win it
in 2012 and be elected.
I think the reason that Romney is not a shoo in right now is
because he has no message that resonates while Santorum does.
People are tired of the same old same old and I refer you to the
2010 elections. In fact the more Romney continues negative
campaigning the more he will lose support. The only way Romney can
get on a national basis more than 40% in fact go to 50+% will be to
say that he messed up on Romney Care, he gets the message and is
ready to lead a new direction and realizes its a new day. He will
not do this, but if he did I would need a pill.No Romney continue
attacking his fellow competitors and avoid the real
target--Obama.
Actually, the Romney wipeout in MN was worse than Stacy
wrote:
Santorum 45
Paul 27
Mittens 17
scotchieguy| 2.13.12 @ 10:55AM
All this shows is the base is hungry for a real conservative,
nothing more. Newt appeared to have something a month ago, but as
is typical, shot himself in the foot with his mouth.
Santorum is a social conservative. The public doesn't care for
that, I think they would rather see some more openness on social
issues, and a fiscal conservative. At least that would attract some
independents. Santorum seem strong on social issues, a war hawk
(when people are saying back off), and more liberal fiscally, kind
of like Huckabee.
Old Soldier| 2.13.12 @ 11:29AM
Yep. Ron Paul (I'm not a big supporter) is the only fiscal
conservative in the bunch. Newt, Mitt, and Rick all have records of
massive wasteful spending. Yelling "I'm a conservative" really loud
doesn't make it go away.
Occam's Tool| 2.13.12 @ 5:03PM
Yeah. If only Paul didn't support legalization of heroin and gay
marriage...
darcy| 2.14.12 @ 5:29AM
What attracts independents keeps the base at home.
If independents want to live in an immoral cesspool then why
don't they just go all the way and vote Democrat?
Quelle horreur that a candidate for U.S. president should
espouse anything that hints of traditional morality. Meanwhile,
Newt is dragged through the coals for his notorious private
life.
Let's face it. The Media Matters designed MSM intends to crucify
our candidate, whatever his "social" credentials.
David| 2.13.12 @ 11:43AM
Every representative and senator vote for earmarks for his/her
district, including the not-so-honest Ron Paul. Even he proposed
earmarks for his district, then when they came up for a vote,
knowing they would pass, Paul voted against them. Why? So he could
stand before an uninformed electorate and say that he never voted
for an earmark for his district.
Now, that is not a LITTLE BIT DISENGENUOUS - IT IS A WHOLE LOT
DISHONEST - in my opinion.
There is nothing wrong with earmarking. The problem is with pork
barrel spending.
Earmarking = putting lines in the legislation that takes funds
allotted for that bill and gives it to a specific
business/region/state for use on the projects written into the
bill
Pork Barrel= putting lines in the legislation that takes funds
allotted for that bill, or adding additional funds, and giving it
to a business/region/state for use on projects NOT related to the
bill.
Look at Santorum's record, he voted for earmarks, yes, but every
one that I have gone through (I won't try to say I've read them
all) has been for projects directly related to the purpose of the
bill.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 12:00PM
I would love to see the truly honest commenters come back here
after MI primaries and assure us all how wretched the primary
voters think Santorum is versus Mitt/Paul/Newt.
When someone like Rick comes in, stays in, carefully manages money,
shakes little peoples' hands, and jumps through all the stupid
hoops, and beats the RINO Machine pre-ordained liberal Dead
Elephant candidate, that demonstrates ALL of the characteristics
desirable in the guy who has to beat not only the illegal alien who
is presently dictator, but the MSM propaganda machine as
well.
When Rick sweeps into office with the next wave of Republicans in
Nov to back him up, we might actually (manic moment here!) see some
positive change.
Seriously, the way Santorum has run his campaign should be proof
enough for people that he can effectively manage money. He has
spent less than ANY OTHER CANDIDATE.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 12:02PM
I would love to see the truly honest commenters come back here
after MI primaries and assure us all how wretched the primary
voters think Santorum is versus Mitt/Paul/Newt.
When someone like Rick comes in, stays in, carefully manages money,
shakes little peoples' hands, and jumps through all the stupid
hoops, and beats the RINO Machine pre-ordained liberal Dead
Elephant candidate, that demonstrates ALL of the characteristics
desirable in the guy who has to beat not only the illegal alien who
is presently dictator, but the MSM propaganda machine as
well.
When Rick sweeps into office with the next wave of Republicans in
Nov to back him up, we might actually (manic moment here!) see some
positive change.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 12:04PM
Whoops, double-click enthusiasm alert! Mia culpa
Roger| 2.13.12 @ 12:33PM
It is really hard for me to decide who is worse,Romney or
Santorum. Romney has Romneycare,the assault weapons ban,wanting to
index the minimum wage to inflation,a weak limpwristed tax policy.
Santorum is a right to work and strker replacement opposing,social
issues obsessed nanny stater.
Bill| 2.13.12 @ 12:47PM
Santorum's record:
1. voted for raising debt ceiling 8 times, adding to the national
debt $3 trillion because PA was a blue state
2. voted against "Right-to-Work" law because PA is a pro-union
state
3. voted for the Medicare Part D because PA has a large population
of retirees
Time and time, santorum surrendered to his liberal constituents and
failed to stand up with the majority of people of PA, and that is
why he lost his senate bid by 18 points to a "silly" liberal Bob
Casey in 2006.
wanne be the President? You wish!
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 1:23PM
Yeah, Bill and Roger, we get that you are concern trolls deeply
anxious about how we'll turn into a socialist country if the stupid
readers of AmSpec should be such gullible fools as to demonstrate
how ignorant they by voting for for Rick over the the much more
desirable choices offered to them.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 1:28PM
A vote for Rick Santorum is a vote for fascism and big
government...right? We absolutely CANNOT have someone trying to
raise the moral fiber of our social discourse in America! Yikes!
The ACLU ought to continue to be in charge of that... Snort.
I don't believe Rick voted for TARP, did he? Mitt was for it and so
was Newt. Hmmmmmm
But wait, there's more...
We couldn't figure the conundrum whereby CPAC voters wanted
principles over 'electability' by a big margin, and then chose
Mittens over Santorum by a small margin. THEN I read the Politico
article Stacy referenced, and my eyes had not deceived me - there
were a LOT of youngsters in Romney 'uniform', and now we know they
were bused in and paid for.
Hey, Mittens, money can buy you people, but it can't buy you love -
that is why you have no base.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 2:27PM
I respectfully differ... He was able to purchase the GOP,
Coulter, Christine O'Donnell, Pawlenty, Chris Christie, LDS, the
Bush Dynasty, Rove, Fox News, and for awhile, National Reveiw
("purchase" may only be synonymous with the respect accrued by the
wealthy, and with "electability", but that is enough, just like the
rich always having an endless line of credit because they ARE
rich). The rich are never "friend"-less, it just comes down to what
the definition of "friend" really is, and what use those friends
ultimately are to you.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 1:37PM
I find it interesting that the "CPAC Edition" of the last HotAir
poll, an audience that overlaps the AmSpec audience, has Rick
stomping all over his rivals. PPP and ARG polls have Rick WAY ahead
of his rivals in MI right now.
Garfield| 2.13.12 @ 2:06PM
Everyone that is going off on Gingrich on Cap & Tax
I think Newt made up for that mistake if you watch it through to
the end, he really rips Henry Waxman (D) a new one.
Jabber3| 2.13.12 @ 3:04PM
I have known Rick Santorum for over 15 years on a personal
basis. He is a fine gentleman and an advocate for conservative
causes but believe me when I say he is not presidential material.
Vice President maybe?
Garfield| 2.13.12 @ 3:08PM
I have no problem with that, I would have no problem voting for
Santorum in the General either, as long as Romney is not on the
ticket.
Drunken Sailor| 2.13.12 @ 4:05PM
Just how do you come up with a man being a good VP but not the
president, when the VP's main function is to step into the
presidency?
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:23PM
That would be fine if we had someone that was of Presidential
timbre running along with him, but no one else in the race is even
close.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 3:11PM
Oh we REEEEEALLY believe you concern troll Jabber3. Thanks for
the info, you kept me from making a terrible voting mistake, as I
have implicit faith in your goodwill toward both primary voting
conservatives and your good buddy Rick Santorum. It's so nice to
know someone will sacrifice his personal acquaintances' efforts for
the good of the AmSpec comment tread readers. Such altruism is so
seldom seen...Heh.
Zious| 2.13.12 @ 3:18PM
Santorum seems to be the ultimate likely nominee of the GOP.
After all the crushing and grinding is done, he might end up the
only one able to stand up on one feet to take on Obama. Sadly the
GOP failed to find a single viable candidate, someone special like
a Ronald Reagan. www.sci-burr.com. However hard these last 4
contenders fight the battle for the nomination we obviously have
lost part of the war already. A tired, bruised, hurt soldier can
only hold fort for so long before he falls.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 3:38PM
Pew Poll just out: Santorum 30%, Romney 20, Newt 17, Paul
12%.
Garfield| 2.13.12 @ 3:49PM
Just wait for Romney's smear machine to get going, then we'll
see.
Roger| 2.13.12 @ 3:55PM
Catholicism,especially Santorum's pre Vatican 2 variety is
plenty weird too.
David Brock| 2.13.12 @ 4:09PM
We have a place for you in my org. Roger ;)
David Brock| 2.13.12 @ 4:11PM
In fact, now that I think about it, we do have a 'turfers
budget, and I think I remember signing a check w/ your name on
it...good work, and keep it up!
We're perilously close to the edge of the cliff. Jerk the wheel
back to the right before we Sheen ourselves! Please read &
share the following article. Silence is tyranny.
At least Santorum is a consistent Neo-Conservative. America
cannot afford Neo-Conservative policy any more and it will be the
GOP's death knell.
D. Brock| 2.13.12 @ 5:19PM
Yes, let's vote for the RINO Paul, as his is not duplicity at
all. Oh, wait, it's alright to lie if good comes from it in the
end. If I go out and get elected calling myself a Democrat and then
govern like a conservative Republican, it's O.K. 'cause I meant to
do good by my lying weasel words.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 5:36PM
Ron Paul is a Libertarian and used to run under that label. To
call himself a Republican is a lie. To say he is not a racist is
also a lie. To say he never supported (different than saying he
voted for them) that is a lie.
Running a plank in his platform like anti-national security is also
bad form. Ron Paul is NEVER going to get within a hundred miles of
POTUS.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 6:51PM
"never supported earmarks" that should be
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:26PM
un-PC yes. Racist? Bunk! I've read the columns and they are not
racist, just realistic. Of course, in this PC addled world being
realistic is the same as being racist, particularly to the loony
left.
Brian| 2.13.12 @ 5:15PM
Mark my words. CPAC was nothing more then a memorial service for
the Republican party. The party is divided in two. Any social
conservative that votes republican is deluding himself.
D. Brock| 2.13.12 @ 5:22PM
Dude, come to work for me!
Brian| 2.13.12 @ 5:46PM
No thanks. Brock works for the Repub establishment. Just who do
you think votes for multi--billion dollar tax breaks for big
leftist media? Republicans!
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 5:59PM
I guess you haven't visited Wiki on who Brock is yet, huh? He
once wrote for this paper and then he flipped his wig, and lost his
sanity. He created Media Matters which was originally to cover
Hillary's sins(for power in her presidency) and now he works for
Soros and the Obamunists slanting the American Pravda media further
towards communism and our commie overlords.
D. Brock| 2.13.12 @ 5:15PM
Atta boy, Rog! My kind o' guy! Maybe I'll introduce you to
Hillary one of these days.
D. Brock| 2.13.12 @ 5:21PM
Secular humanism is my religion, and its moral relativity and
situational ethics my guide. I am god, and what I say is right is
therefore right(as long as I mean well by it).
David| 2.13.12 @ 5:45PM
So you know, out of the 7 candidates who WERE left in the race,
Santorum was second to the BOTTOM as far as net worth.
Roger| 2.13.12 @ 6:07PM
I am sorry. Forget we can'r criticize Santorum on here. He is
the sacred cow. Long live the Virgin Mary!
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 6:47PM
Your post, earlier:
Roger| 2.13.12 @ 3:55PM
"Catholicism,especially Santorum's pre Vatican 2 variety is
plenty weird too."
Actually, as a faithful Catholic who believes all that the
Church teaches, I think that I agree with you. In fact, I have
considered writing a book whose title would be something on the
order of "Catholicism is Preposterous."
Indeed, in John's Gospel, chapter 6, there is the only recorded
instance of Jesus's followers no longer believing in Him (which is
different from the cowardice shown by the Apostles' panicky denial
of Him when he was being interrogated before his execution). These
soon-to-be ex-disciples couldn't accept Jesus's teaching that in
order to have eternal life, one must literally "gnaw" on His flesh
and drink His blood -- the Greek words are repeated, and become
more and more emphatic as the scene progresses. Indeed, if Jesus
had intended His words to be metaphorical or symbolic, He would
have called these disciples back: "Oh, wait!! I don't mean these
words literally!!" Why would Jesus let these disciples go away from
the path to salvation if He believed that they were simply
misunderstanding Him? Wouldn't such a view accuse Jesus of
deliberately allowing these disciples to be mistaken, and therefore
to go to their (potentially) perdition?
The Pharisees and Sadduccees also thought that Jesus was
"weird," to use your term, or "preposterous," to use my own term.
Indeed, they executed Him, overtly, for the crime of blasphemy. How
"WEIRD" or "PREPOSTEROUS" of Him to claim Himself to be the equal
of God, to be ONE with the Father!! Again, I agree with Roger that
all of Christianity is "weird" about this -- claiming a God who
became a real human being!!
Catholicism of the 21st century is proven to have descended
almost unchanged back to the very first century. Just read the
Church Fathers -- for example, Ignatius of Antioch. Read any one of
a number of modern authors if you don't believe me: for example,
Jimmy Akin (a convert); or Mike Aquilina. Or, go to the website for
the St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology, founded by Scott Hahn
(another convert): http://www.salvationhistory.com/
In any event, Roger, your sneering remarks harbor a kernel of
truth. You just need to learn about "the rest of the story":
namely, that -- yes, Catholicism is "weird"; but so is ALL of
Christianity. But you know what? It is also TRUE!!!
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 7:24PM
Calling Catholicism the "one true church" is gonna take you and
a lot of other people to a place we really don't want to go on a
political blog, perhaps? According to James ALL religion is vain.
If we follow a human-instituted religion, based on man's vain
attempts to please God (impossible) by our own religiosity we will
all fail. Jesus said in John 14:6 "I Am the way, I Am the truth, I
Am the life no man cometh unto the Father but by/through me" (there
was no mention of a denominational affiliation), and He also said
(Matt 3:29)"Call no man your "Father" on earth, for one is your
father which is in Heaven". St Paul says in Romans 1:17 that "the
just shall live by faith" and in Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are
we saved, through faith, and that not of (in)ourselves, it is the
gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast". Paul says in
Titus 3:5 "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but
according to His mercy He saved us..." Acts 2:12 "Neither is there
salvation in any other: for there is NO OTHER NAME, under heaven,
given among men whereby we must be saved" Those who let other
sinful humans read and interpret the Bible for them will be led
astray. Paul says of Christ's followers in 1 Peter 2:9 "But you
are...a royal priesthood..." I do not need a priest to go to God
for me, Christ "sits at the right hand of the Father ever making
intercession..." for me. No where in the Bible is a denominational
affiliation necessary, and in fact the criminal on the cross next
to Christ was let into Heaven merely by professing his faith in who
Christ was and asking Him to save him. No pope, nor priest, nor
father, nor reverend, nor baptism, nor anything else was necessary
but faith in Christ alone, admission of guilt and request for
salvation, period. The same goes for EVERYONE, right now this very
moment. There is no knowing how many seconds one has left, best
call on His help now.
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:30PM
Funny that when he said "this is my body," and "this is my
blood" it was he that handed the disciples to bread and wine.
People ridicule red neck Baptists for being silly in their
literalism, yet people are supposed to leave Roman Catholics alone
when the picture is completely different from what they claim it
was? Not even the Roman Catholic bible translations agree with the
RCC stance on the bread and wine being his literal body and
blood.
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 8:06PM
You Seem To Have A Catholic Problem, Ass Clown,
Quartermaster.
" Catholic Christians together with other historical Christian
Churches (e.g., Eastern Orthodox and Byzantine Christians,
Lutherans, Anglicans and some Episcopalians, etc.) believe the
literal words of Jesus - that the bread and wine are truly his body
and blood."
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 7:31PM
Don't wait until next Sunday to confess (1 John 1:9), The whole
book of Hebrews is VERY clear as to whom is our high priest now
that Christ has taken that spot by His self-sacrifice on our
behalves.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 7:52PM
Acts 4:12 There is no other name...whereby salvation...
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 9:26PM
If we were all Catholic, there would BE no "denominations,"
would there now? We would all be one, just as Jesus prayed for.
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 9:57PM
I don't intend to "sling Bible verses" with you. I would
encourage you to try to understand the Catholic claim to the
"fullness of truth," of which portions remain in other Christian
denominations, and of which glimpses are given to all people of
good will.
Begin with our Catechism -- it is shot through with references
to Scripture.
For your edification, I would recommend that you read some of
the wonderful apologia written over the last century or so. A few
worthy authors: Scott Hahn; Jimmy Akin; Mark Shea; Patrick Madrid;
Bruce Sullivan; Karl Keating; Dietrich von Hildebrand; G. K.
Chesterton; John Henry Cardinal Newman. Go to these websites (I
can't "hotlink" them all due to restrictions on this site -- just
type in www. before and
.com after these names): Catholic for answers to your questions;
catholicapologetics; scripturecatholic. There are many others.
Please consider: when it's just you and the Bible, doesn't that
make you your own "pope"? Why are there so many Protestant
denominations? Because there are so many disagreements -- a
violation of Christ's prayer that we would all be one (John's
Gospel 17:21).
Besides, who do you think gave you the Bible? Why would it be
that God could guarantee the infallibility of the Bible but somehow
would not guarantee the infallibility of the teaching office that
codified that same Bible? Jesus didn't say, "Go to the whole world
passing out Bibles"; He said, "Go forth and teach all nations" --
of necessity, the concept of "teach" inherently includes authority,
an authority which must be visible and concrete in its demands to
mean anything worthwhile. (Otherwise, you end up believing whatever
you want, claiming it to be straight out of the Bible. "Every man a
pope; every man a pope; but no one wears a crown!!")
Go learn the early Church -- it was quite Catholic, from the
beginning. Jimmy Akin and Mike Aquilina particularly are good at
explicating the Catholic-ness of the Catholic Church by quoting
directly from the Church Fathers, going all the way back to the
year 100 or so, when Ignatius of Antioch wrote his epistles en
route to Rome and martyrdom.
As for your assertion about needing a priest, remember that
Jesus said to the Apostles "whose sins you forgive are forgiven;
whose sins you hold bound are held bound." It is tautological that
in order to hold a sin bound, the priest must know what that sin
is, and the attitude of the sinner confessing it. Aural confession
is a necessity for the priest to carry out this command (John
20:22-23).
Finally, consider visiting the Coming Home Network, instrumental
in assisting many Protestants to the "fullness of truth": www.chnetwork.org
Peace, brother.... My peace I give to you.
David| 2.13.12 @ 6:42PM
Old Soldier, Santorum was NOT "running with that crowd" as you
put it. Santorum many times was going against the grain of repub
leadership. He was pushing for SS and entitlement reforms when
everyone was telling him to drop them as issues. I have watched him
too long, and watched too much C-SPAN for years, to let you distort
Santorum and his solid conservative positions on almost every
issue.
People have posted here, ad nauseum, his conservative ratings
from various conservative groups.
Who do you know who scores as consistently high with those
groups as Santorum. Even Fred Thompson, who was the conservative
choice last time around, didn't come close to Santorum's
conservative ratings by those groups.
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 6:52PM
Thank you, David. I get tired of the hysterical postings
accusing Santorum of being everything from a virtual socialist to a
"papist-theocrat." People who accuse him of these things are
propagandizing, and "in their hearts, they know that he (Santorum)
is right" to borrow Goldwater's campaign slogan......
These posters usually, in my opinion, harbor anti-Catholic
animus -- yes, bigots..... But they are smart enough to know to
hide it behind these bogus "issues." The worst of these is "he
can't get elected." Well, YES HE CAN!!!
David| 2.13.12 @ 7:29PM
SIlver Bullet, you may be on to something there about his
Catholicism. I guess I give posters on this site (most of them
anyway) too much credit and think they would not let Catholicism
get in the way of voting the most conservative. candidate. But
wait, Newt is also a Catholic, albeit a recent convert. And people
should realize that many of our favorite conservatives over the
years have been Catholic: Bill Bennett and William Buckley to name
only two.
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:33PM
Frankly, Santorum's Catholicism doesn't bother me. If he had the
intention of trying to repeal the 1st amendment and make Roman
Catholicism the state religion it would be different.
OTOH, the overall morality of the RCC, as they teach it, but not
as the Hierarchy lives it (they are a bunch socialists and are now
getting burned by the Obummer whose Obamacare they supported). The
hierarchy has as yet to face the rot in their ranks.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 7:43PM
The Dead Elephant Party is a zombie party now, and Santorum may
have a temporary positive impact (especially by carrying in more
TEA Partiers with him in Nov), but only radical change of
leadership and attitudes in upper management of the Gay Old Party
(a bunch of soft socialists) is going to change the direction of
the country, or at least give it a parachute.
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 7:48PM
Do Your Homework.
" In 1984, it was reported that a meeting occurred between
Cardinal Ratzinger, head of the Vatican's Congregation for the
Doctrine of the Faith and the CELAM bishops, during which a rift
developed between Ratzinger and some of the bishops.[20] As
mentioned above, Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) issued official
condemnations of certain elements of liberation theology in 1984
and 1986.
After this, and throughout the 1990s, Ratzinger, as prefect of
the CDF, continued to condemn these elements in liberation
theology, and prohibited dissident priests from teaching such
doctrines in the Catholic Church's name. Leonardo Boff was
suspended and others were censured. Tissa Balasuriya, in Sri Lanka,
was excommunicated. Sebastian Kappen, an Indian theologian, was
also censured for his book Jesus and Freedom.Under Cardinal
Ratzinger's influence, theological formation schools were forbidden
from using the Catholic Church's organization and grounds to teach
liberation theology in the sense of theology using unacceptable
Marxist ideas, not in the broader sense."
Nick099| 2.14.12 @ 12:15AM
Yep....Gingrich is wiped out cause of CPAC...I mean after
all....the vote is so predictive of future events... Ron Paul and
Romney have won them several times in recent past...so factually
CPAC straw vote means nothing. Santorum won in states with less
than 10% voter turnout ( as did Romney) and no delegates awarded,
so except for momentum in the Media...how does this matter at
all???? The answer is; it does not matter. But Media outlets are
trying to make it matter.
They know Santorum has a big mouth and when he gets hot under
the collar he comes across as very small and
unimpressive...annoying in fact. The establishment types want
Santorum because it means an ultimate Romney victory...and I like
Santorum. I just do not think he has the tools Gingrich has.
The paragraph about the press conference calling Gingrich
"petulant" is nothing more than a smear and a lie. i watched the
whole event live. He was neither "petulant" or "whiny" or" zany."
He answered all questions in a direct matter of fact manner. It was
refreshing. The new media and its' establishment handlers are
making a huge mistake: betting all on Romney by bolstering Santorum
is dangerous. Romney is weak, despite all the millions propping him
up. When he ran on issues Gingrich destroyed him. Santorum was no
where to be found. When Romney attacked with $20 million in sleazy
adds, he pulled out a win in Florida. Nevada was a very low turnout
of 7.5% in a state that is 26% Mormon. Santorum's victories while
nice, where also equally low in turnout and awarded no delegates.
yet the chucklebutts continue to post delegate results as if they
were awarded. Even Florida will have to be divided up per RNC rules
so Romney did not get the whole 50. He gets a percentage...so after
all the money he spent, to destroy Gingrich, Romney ends up with
6-8 more delegates???? That does not sound like a great investmnet
of capital to me especially coming from a guy whose only claim to
fame is that he was some type of gifted investment manager. The
whole coverage is disgusting. Try reporting the news instead of
your freakin opinion. From the looks of it, this writer would be
far better off. He does not have the intellectual capacity
necessary for proper analysis.
Garfield| 2.14.12 @ 6:32PM
If Gingrich was really as unelectible as people are claiming,
those same people wouldn't be expending all this effort to sabotage
his campaign.
-------------PELOSI calling for further
police state surveillance while visiting the
GENOCIDE capitol of the world --RED China
----------------GINZBURG dissing the Constitution
--------------------the PRIVATE EUGENICS borg
---the TAX FREE, and NOW tax collecting UN
----------------------the FUKISHIMA world depop op and cover
up.
Just --some-- of the REAL issues.
fckewe| 2.14.12 @ 1:16AM
Santorum's emphatic dogma only appeals to a very short 1/4 of
the country, most of whom are afraid their neighbors scorn of them
for their REAL beliefs is too expensive a price to pay for speaking
the truth.
his ultra Sterile Christian Fascism with it's moral dictates and
faulty supposition that GOD actually exists, has laws that were NOT
written in sand by men and insists on discrimination against women,
the poor, non whites and the needy, helpless and handicapped of our
society will hand Obama a Johnson/Reagan size landslide win.
The UNUM should NEVER rule the PLURIBUS, and unstammering
deception as to who is coercing who makes the third most corrupt
Senator of his term a poor choice even for those that believe his
schlep.
Silver Bullet| 2.14.12 @ 8:04PM
It never ceases to amaze me, "fckewe" (scatological name, likely
owned by a scatological person), that when people start making
accusations such as you have, that you (seemingly) fail to realize
that the person being excoriated surely does not believe himself to
be the things you say.
Do you honestly believe that Santorum considers himself to be
guilty of "discrimination against women, the poor, non whites and
the needy, helpless and handicapped...."?
If not, then why not?
Are you, "fckewe," capable of analyzing Santorum's thought
processes as to why he does NOT believe himself to be the things
you accuse him of? I doubt it. You strike me as being incapable of
considering the possibility that your rhetorical, supposed opponent
(Santorum) might have a brain and actual reasons for his views, and
that he might -- just might -- fail to see himself the way you
do.
Is your intellect, "fckewe," so blindingly brilliant that you
cannot deign to stoop to explain answers to my two questions
above??? Hmmm?
I am waiting a reply.
Sincerely,
"Silver Bullet"
Lynn Otting| 2.14.12 @ 5:16PM
Unfortunely for both candidates, Newt is not out of this race.
Let's not vote for the candidate that has the only workable tax and
energy plans. Let's not vote for the candidate that can actually
beat President O'bama. Let's not vote for the candidate that has
set and achieved goals for the advancement of conservatism. Newt
has done more to advance the cause of conservatism than anyone in
the presidential race. He not only ended 40 years of Democratic
control in the House, he ended Democratic control of southern
states like Georgia too. Republicans forget how much Newt has done
for conservatism. Regardless of how he did it and whether he made a
few mistakes along the way, he accomplished his goals. For example,
he didn't quit until Republicans controlled the house. It took him
over 12 years to achieve this goal. (Funny, how people are so quick
to conclude that Newt quit the speakership because he was scared he
didn't have the votes to win. How difficult is it to understand
that he would rather step down than risk the Republicans losing
control of the house.) Unfortunately, people just don’t get that
the one and only reason Newt has ever done and will ever do
anything is for conservatism, not individualism.
Garfield| 2.14.12 @ 6:33PM
I will go a step further and point out that the Obama media
wouldn't be trying to sabotage Gingrich's campaign like this if
Obama wasn't genuinely afraid to face Gingrich in an election.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 2.13.12 @ 6:59AM
If Santorum had any real meaningful deep support, he'd have a lot more money to run his campaign.
That little bit of money shows that the deep pockets and even the rank and file do not take him seriously.
Why is he hanging around? Bored? Feels his vision is important?
Where was that vision while he was in the U.S. Congress?
He supported Medicare Part D which dwarfs Romneycare. Where are those conservative credentials he keeps talking about?
There aren't any. That's why there isn't any big money behind him.
Jack in Wi.| 2.13.12 @ 7:13AM
Santorum isn't even on the ballot in several states. He has little support among independents, young people, disaffected Democrats, and about half the Republicans. If by some miracle he would be the nominee, I expect he would lose by about the 20 points he did in Penn.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 2.13.12 @ 7:33AM
You're an optimist.
florin| 2.13.12 @ 9:33AM
Santorum could have surged ahead but after CPAC he started whining about how Romney had more of his people there to vote...if he continues whining like a baby - well, like gingrich really - he will lose the respect of those who support him. Romney didn't whine after it turned out he had lost Iowa to Santorum...
darcy| 2.14.12 @ 3:57AM
Whining?
The fact is that CPAC participation can be packed, that is, attendance slots can be bought up by groups, and that includes candidates; you remember, I'm sure, that the Paulbots attended in droves several CPAC's ago and Ron Paul won the straw poll. No surprise there. huh? I guess you didn't know that about CPAC, florin.
How could Romney "whine" about losing to Santorum in Iowa? No one even knew about the Santorum win until at least a week later, a week in which everyone thought that Romney had won?
Where do we get these people who make such ridiculous comments?
Bobloblaw| 2.14.12 @ 6:43PM
waiting for Paul to win a state
skedaddle| 2.13.12 @ 8:22AM
And Santorum's win in Missouri, which is meaningless, was orchestrated by state Democrats. I had one call and offer to take me to the poll or babysit my kids so I could vote for Santorum. He's an empty suit that 0bama could win against easily.
emilio lizardo, phD| 2.13.12 @ 9:35AM
exactly. Just the latest non-Romney flavor of the week ala Perry, Cain, Gingrich. Forget about him
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:03PM
Romney himself is the non-Romney. Figuring out where he stands is like nailing Jello to the wall. I expect Reps will throw his lever this fall if he's the nominee, but it's going to be like it was with Dole and McShamnesty. They won't like it, and a lot of people are going to stay home.
Alas, Santorum is the best of a bad lot. At least i wouldn't have to hold my nose too tightly. With Mittens, I doubt I could get past the stench to get into the booth.
Bobloblaw| 2.14.12 @ 6:45PM
Your Romney can still be the candidate,l but he'll never be president. In order to become the candidate, he has to trash Santorum like he has Gingrich. That will be the end of what little good will he has in the conservative movement. The GOP-E thinks that the base hates Obama so much, they will rally behind Romney.....dont count on it
Mike Rogers| 2.13.12 @ 10:49AM
Actually, the money is coming in, and will very likely continue, especially of he does well against Mittens in Michigan.
Todd| 2.14.12 @ 2:10AM
Amazing all the Romney gang posting here. Rick Santorum will win Michigan which will probably be the end of Newt's campaign and will expose Romney as very weak. Santorum is beating Romney, Newt and Ron Paul who all have a lot more money. Rick has done this with peanuts. The money spent by Mitt and Newt is pretty staggering. I like Ron Paul but Rick is better positioned to become President.
Rick Santorum is very strong in the Midwest and can win the key states in November like MO,MI,PA,OH and FL to name a few.
Rick Santorum is attracting young people plus Evangelicals and Catholics. Rick was very popular with the young folks at CPAC. Obama has tee'd up a major gift with mandatory abortion for church insurance. This is very unpopular with all Christians. Rick Santorum will win the Catholic vote as well as all Christians in November and will be elected President.
Dai Alanye| 2.13.12 @ 11:17AM
Stalin is correct -- if Santorum had conservative credentials the "big money" would get behind him. Sure, because all the millionaires and billionaires I know simply love independent-thinking conservatives.
The little donations supporting Santorum are coming from little people who have no concept of either conservatism or what's good for them. Wall Street and Hollywood always support the conservative in a race -- right? Where, among Santorum's supporters, is Goldman Sachs? Where are the Las Vegas moguls? Where are the big-time lobbyists? Where are the dozens of filthy-rich men and women donating thousands and hundred-thousands -- the big bucks?
Instead, all Rick has is thousands and tens of thousands of nobodies donating their measly twenties and fifties. Let's face up to the facts -- if dollars counted instead of votes (as they rightly should) Santorum would be running dead last.
As for him claiming to be conservative -- what a laugh. All he has is ratings like these:
American Conservative Union -- 88%
National Right to Life Committee -- 100%
Americans for Tax Reform -- 95%
National Tax Limitation Committee -- 92%
U.S. Chamber of Commerce -- 88%
League of Private Property Voters -- 94%
Whereas our boy Romney has Wall Street, lobbyists, miilionaires, Obamneycare, Cap and Tax, a whole stack of waffles, and a closet full of flip-flops. Yea, Mitt!
Drunken Sailor| 2.13.12 @ 11:52AM
We really need a sarcasm font.
Dai Alanye| 2.13.12 @ 4:14PM
Right on, my man! Democracy is too big to be left to the little people. The puling masses have to be taught once again to take what they're given! It's time for America to learn to lose with dignity again!
richard mcenroe| 2.13.12 @ 4:15PM
Dude, sorry, didn't mean to jack your handle. My bad.
jstwndring| 2.13.12 @ 5:28PM
Plus, Mitt has backers like McCain, Dole, and Trump! I don't know what more proof you need. I know I need think no further. My betters have selected for me, and who am I to question their collective (yes) wisdom?
TrueBlue| 2.13.12 @ 7:04PM
Excellent use of sarcasm!
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:06PM
You don't have to have conservative cred to get the bog money behind you. You have to have establishment cred. Many conservatives have discovered this fact to their chagrin.
We saw this in Ohio repeatedly. The establishment hated Ken Blackwell, and when it was his turn, Taft had already so damaged the GOP brand that Blackwell was just a sacrificial lamb. Ohio got Strickland instead and they now have Blackwell permanently out of the way.
Appleby| 2.13.12 @ 7:19AM
As long as Obama and his posse continue to try to dismantle the Catholic Church, Rick Santorum will continue to surge. He is not only a consistent Conservative, he's a consistant Catholic; indeed, to many of us who (having been Mormons, some of us) do not believe the LDS church is in fact Christian, he is the only consistent Christian. Believe it or not, this still matters to a very large group of people who are not out marching, chanting, waving signs, and Demanding; we are living lives of quiet desperation just trying to hang on until we can rid the government of Obama and his ilk in the good old fashioned legal way.
To some of us, deep pockets and loads of cash are not what makes the world go round. In fact, some of us find it hard to relate to Mitt Romney because we have values not preceded by dollar signs.
Jeremiah Smirking| 2.13.12 @ 7:55AM
Welll stated!
Tina B| 2.13.12 @ 8:53AM
Yes, very well stated.
Occam's Tool| 2.13.12 @ 4:58PM
In Minnesota, in my little precinct, which is predominantly white and middle to upper middle class, all owning their own land, Santorum won 56 votes to 18 for Paul to 8 for Romney to 2 for Gingrich.
I have a feeling that Conservatives may start to favor Santorum.
Todd| 2.14.12 @ 2:17AM
I know more than a few pray the rosary Catholics who insanely voted for Obama. They are old school: union and Kennedy Catholics.
I try to avoid them so I do not lose it. They will not be voting Obama this time and they like Rick Santorum. Obama's attacks on Catholics is finally getting these people to wake up. Obama won the Catholic vote in 2008. Rick Santorum will be the nominee and he will win the Catholic vote plus the evangelical vote plus other Christians who realize Obama is attacking Christianity. Hopefully more Catholics will remember The Battle of Lepanto.
Von Mises Jr.| 2.13.12 @ 7:37AM
This is amusing in that it is similar to the old adage of "don't interfere when your enemy is committing suicide."
Santorum simply shut up while Romney leveled a vicious attack on Newt, and Newt responded with venom. Besides being the beneficiary of his contenders ravaging each other, it takes the sting somewhat out of any attack Romney now directs toward him.
Romney has made it clear for all those with eyes to see that his strategy is to seek and destroy, not win on merit. Like Obama's class warfare, people turn off to it over time.
Vern Crisler| 2.13.12 @ 9:40AM
I agree. Those conservatives who are banking on Santorum don't realize that the Romney smear machine hasn't gone into full swing against Santorum. Newt's momentum was blocked in Florida by Romney's money, which won over the Republican whores in Florida. Santorum is going to have the same problem when Romney spreads his money around in other states and launches incessant smears against Santorum.
Since Florida Newt has not been able to get back his earlier momentum. Remember, he was always down in the polls throughout much of the Republican debates, but surged at the last minute, only to have it undermined by the Romney attack machine in Iowa.
I think Newt's problem now is that he's listening to his advisers telling him he has to tone it down, be more presidential. He did that in the last two debates and it was a disaster.
Let Newt be Newt. He needs to be himself, and use the remaining debates to regain his momentum. He doesn't need to listen to "conservative" shills for Romney claiming that he is "petulant." He needs to ignore all the psychobabble.
We want the Newt of the South Carolina debates, not the Newt of the Florida debates. Are you listening, Gingrich campaign? Let Newt be Newt.
Von Mises Jr.| 2.13.12 @ 10:32AM
Santorum will work to repeal ObamaCare because it is his moral commitment. Newt will work to repeal ObamaCare because he is insightful and wants to find an elevated place in history. Romney just wants to be President and redeem his father.
This is why I can be excited about either Newt or Rick Santorum, but will hold my nose if I must vote for Mitt.
Old Soldier| 2.13.12 @ 11:21AM
I wish Rick had been morally opposed to Medicare Drugs. If he had, he might still be a U.S. Senator.
Occam's Tool| 2.13.12 @ 4:59PM
Well, I think the boy is capable of learning. Remember, Medicare D was a mainstream Republican position at the time.
TrueBlue| 2.13.12 @ 7:09PM
It also works pretty well compared to the rest of the Medicare system. Costs a lot less at least.
Old Soldier| 2.14.12 @ 8:21AM
I remember - that's when they stopped getting my money.
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:11PM
In my opinion, Santorum would have lost his senate seat regardless. Bush had seriously damaged the GOP brand, and we paid for it in Congress in 2006 and 2008. Santorum wasn't the only one to go down.
If anything weighed the man, other than the GOp brand, it was endorsing Snarlin' Arlen instead of Toomey. Santorum has regretted that saying it wasn't a smart move on his part. He might have done it to be decent to Specter who had helped him, but there are things that decency would require of you that go beyond helping someone that helped you. Specter got his eventually, but Santorum paid a high price for doing something rather stupid.
Todd| 2.14.12 @ 2:23AM
Bush and Rove also supported Specter. Rick was not thrilled about supporting Specter either. I loathed Specter and donated to Toomey even though I am not in PA.
What was wonderful "conservative" Pat Toomey's first vote? To repeal Do Ask, Don't Tell. Pat Toomey is a RINO traitor of the highest magnitude. Rick Santorum would have voted against the repeal.
RINO-MA Scott Brown also voted to repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." Hey Pat and Scott - send my donation money back to me.
Bobloblaw| 2.14.12 @ 6:49PM
You dont seriously think that Santorum lost PA, a state with the second largest numb er of seniors in the country, because he voted for Bush's medicare bill ??? He lost because he become 2006 was a bad year and he became too associated with social issues. In 1994 and 2000, Santorum carried the PHL suburbs. In 2006 he lost them by more than 20 points.
Wayne| 2.15.12 @ 11:39AM
Nobody in Pa can beat the name Robert Casey. It is holy: especially among the older, Roman Catholic, conservative Democrats. These are the voters Republicans MUST win in order to be elected. Santorum could not beat the name.
richard mcenroe| 2.13.12 @ 4:16PM
Mitt Romney is the spiritual heir of Meg Whitman, not Ronald Reagan, and the voters will reject him as they rejected her.
martin j smith| 2.13.12 @ 7:44AM
It is now time to attack Obama full throttle. Santorun must get beyond Romney and do so.
Ken (Old Texican)| 2.13.12 @ 7:45AM
Anybody but obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dave Williams| 2.13.12 @ 12:55PM
Right behind you, brother.
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:12PM
OMG = Obama Must Go!
Stammon| 2.13.12 @ 7:57PM
Obama delenda est!
Stammon| 2.13.12 @ 7:57PM
Obama delenda est!
Tim the Enchanter| 2.14.12 @ 9:02AM
Carthage, too!
Adjoran| 2.13.12 @ 8:05AM
Santorum can certainly raise the money now, if current trends continue, to fund him for the next month or two at least. His bigger problem may be building organizations in the upcoming states where he has little or no presence yet.
Gingrich's steep fall wasn't "astonishing" to me or anyone who has followed him through his career. He always self-destructs, often over minor things his overblown ego just can't let go.
It seems almost certain at this point to become a two-man race for the nomination between Santorum and Romney, with Paul getting some share of delegates along the way.
At least this means we will have a nominee of unassailable personal character. That certainly doesn't guarantee a win, but at least one sure line of attack is blocked.
calvin| 2.13.12 @ 9:27AM
My wife tried to send Santorum a donation on line last week and all the lines were jammed. He must be doing something right.
Eagerly waiting for the show to come to the Wolverine state. We have to start digging out of our hole sometime.
Vern Crisler| 2.13.12 @ 9:43AM
How has Newt self-destructed? He simply doesn't have the money to respond to all the Romney smears.
scotchieguy| 2.13.12 @ 11:00AM
He looked ridiculous going after Romney's career as "a job killer." Who does he work for, Obama?
Garfield| 2.13.12 @ 2:02PM
Actually I think Gingrich made a valid point you just haven't thought things through.
Think about Obama's campaign tactics of class warfare, Gingrich was pointing out why Obama wants Romney to be the Republican nominee.
Mtncougar| 2.14.12 @ 1:23AM
Romney's Bain Capital IS a job killer. That's not from Newt ... that is said by a Reagan conservative venture capitalist. (see link below)
Romney is the prototypical country club wall street corporate rich Republican, and Bain is his achilles heel. Romney needs to be vetteed on Bain (you can bet the MSM will), and if left alone Newt would have helped.
Here's the interview with the Reagan conservative venture capitalist on Bain (below). It is easy to understand and very sobering. Romney will get crushed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....e=youtu.be
Dai Alanye| 2.13.12 @ 11:24AM
Newt made two huge mistakes early on -- claiming he had the nomination in the bag before Iowa voted, and publicizing his desire to go after appeals judges.
The third big mistake was to respond to Romney's attacks in kind rather than rise above them. Newt beats Newt.
Vern Crisler| 2.13.12 @ 11:57AM
In Iowa Newt did exactly what you suggest: he tried to stay above Romney's smears. Look what it got him. He realized that negative ads work. He just doesn't have the money to match Romney's.
I don't remember Newt saying he had the nomination in the bag. His comments about bringing judges before Congress were simply expressions of the same frustration that most of us have regarding arrogant, out-of-control judges.
Newt's attack on Romney's Bain capital should have been more focused on Romney rather than leave the impression he was attacking capitalism. But he backed away from it after criticism, asking his SuperPac to pull a Romney-type ad that naturally wasn't true.
So most of these criticisms of Newt are just the same old tired charges that NR and AmSpec have been leveling at Newt, since these publications are, after all, just shills for Romney.
Mimi| 2.13.12 @ 12:18PM
I think Newt is quiet now analyzing and dissecting the playing field....At least Romney and his money is off his back!
If and when he sees a real rise in support of Santorum he will do the HONORABLE thing and get out and support him.
He needs time, events , debates and POLLS...I think after super Tuesday, early March we'll see!
I watched Newt's speech at CPAC he did the best job! He looked like the logical person, his Ideas surperb...Why he didn't convince that crowd was disapointing.....Time will tell, Newt a basically GOOD & DECENT man loves his country, and will do what is right! That I am convinced of!
Todd| 2.14.12 @ 2:28AM
Newt is a CFR member like Bill Clinton. They both have a habit of self destruction and narcissism. Gingrich cannot manage his personal life so his falling apart was expected. I have no interest in anyone who supported Dede Scazzofava in NY state, global warming with Pelosi and a Newt on video talking about GW with John Kerry or a Newt who feeds at the Fannie/Freddie trough.
Rick Santorum or Ron Paul for me and Rick gets the edge. I don't like Mitt but he does seem like a good family man.
Rick Santorum/Rand Paul 2012
Truth| 2.13.12 @ 8:22AM
You make at least one factual error: Mitt Romney lost to Ron Paul in Minnesota: Ron Paul was the second place finisher with 27%.
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 9:03AM
" LAKE JACKSON, Texas– Congressman and 2012 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul issued the following statement regarding the Obama Administration’s announcement that religious organizations must pay for contraception and sterilization under the national health care law:
“Forcing private religious institutions to pay for contraception and sterilization as part of their health care plans is a direct assault on the First Amendment’s guarantee of religious liberty. On my first day as President, I will reverse this policy. Repealing the unconstitutional monstrosity known as ObamaCare is a major part of my Plan to Restore America.
“I am the only GOP presidential candidate who has consistently opposed the federal promotion, funding, and mandating of contraception and abortion. Unlike Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum, I never voted to provide taxpayer funding to Planned Parenthood. And unlike Mitt Romney, whose Massachusetts health care plan contained a contraceptive mandate similar to the one contained in ObamaCare, I have never supported any government health care mandates."
The Tea Party Rebellion Heads To A Brokered Convention.
Occam's Tool| 2.13.12 @ 5:00PM
That's nice. You know, Paul could be advocating a bill in the House right now, but I don't see it. He did find time to advocate for one for Marijuana legalization, but not for this.
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:14PM
Have you heard of anyone else introducing such a bill Occam? I think Clint is a twit, but sometimes you come across as an idiot.
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 7:40PM
I'm Not A Twit, I'm A Tea Party Patriot.
Lookin' For A Problem Quartermaster ?
Actually, You're Sounding Like A Twit Yourself, Quartermaster.
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 7:19PM
"In 2005, 2007, 2009, and again in 2011, Dr.Ron Paul introduced the Sanctity of Life Act, which would have life defined as beginning at conception at the Federal level."
You're The Israel Firster,Who Said He'll Vote For The RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney.
Interesting That You Hide BehindThe Moniker Of A Catholic Heretic, Israel Firster Smear Bund Scum, Tool Job.
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 9:41AM
"While some pundits dismissed Santorum's strong showing last week as an inconsequential bump in the road for Romney, it helped Santorum establish at least a temporary ascendancy over Newt Gingrich as the top "Not Mitt" candidate in the Republican race."
Although "Spectator" most likely has not knowingly propagandized for Mitt Romney, the above quote reflects the not-so-subtle underlying biased narrative that has undergirded almost all "reporting" on the nomination contest.
It is time for the Editors at Spectator to launch a new narrative: "Santorum appears to be surging towards the nomination!!" Or, "Santorum finally gets discovered!" Or, "Santorum emerges on top, triumphing against all odds!" Or, "Romney has met his match!!"
Vern Crisler| 2.13.12 @ 9:45AM
Not going to happen. AmSpec has chosen "electability" as its standard, conservative values be damned.
loulou| 2.13.12 @ 9:51AM
Except that Romney's "electability" is a manufactured myth. Nobody likes Romney except the GOP elites.
scotchieguy| 2.13.12 @ 11:02AM
George Will said on his ABC show that nothing is more unreliable than saying someone is "inevitable" or "electable." They have been saying that for months about Romney, and he is still around 25-30%.
TrueBlue| 2.13.12 @ 7:13PM
It's kind of like saying that Man-made Global Warming is "settled science," right? :)
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:15PM
What? You mean it's not? Have you told Albore?
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 7:27PM
You Owe Me An Apology.
This Phoney Post By The Israel Firster Smear Bund Poseur Punk Poster, Over At "Bishops Reject Obama's 'Accommodation'
By G. Tracy Mehan, III",
Wasn't My Post.
" Clint| 2.13.12 @ 11:19AM
Jesus Was Catholic, Who Was Killed By The Joooooos1"
These Smear Bund Scum Poseur Punk Post Under Other's Names In An Attempt To Smear Up, Marginalize And Mock Anyone,Who Doesn't Ass Kiss Their Agenda.
Watch Yourself Around Them.
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 8:01PM
Note to self;
Shut up!
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 8:29PM
The Gutless Israel Firster Coward Has To Poseur Punk Post Under My Name Because You Ain't Man Enough To Take Me On Man Up, Under Your Own Name.
You Israel Firster Gutless Cowards Got A Bad Habit Of Hiding Behind Others When The Fightin' Starts.
Old Soldier| 2.13.12 @ 11:23AM
There is a conservative running? Who?
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 9:52AM
One additional point that I wish the Editors would address: If Romney has been "with the program" of conservatism for at least four years now, and if he has had so much $$$$, then tell us this: where was Romney in 2008? Was he spending millions of dollars to attack Obama?
Why didn't Romney unleash his "brutal attack machine" in 2008 against Obama? Why didn't he lend a helping hand to McCain? Could it be that Romney didn't want McCain to be President, and already had in mind his run in 2012 against Obama? What does his passivity in 2008 after McCain was nominated tell us about who he really is and why he is really running?
I can't help but thinking that Romney is "in the game" the way some corporate leaders run businesses -- for themselves and themselves alone. Not for money, but for the sheer thrill of the prestige and the power of "being President."
I believe it was the (late) CBS-TV commentator Eric Sevareid who once said: “The difference between the men and the boys in politics is, and always has been, that the boys want to be something, while the men want to do something.” Romney, like GHWBush #41, has always been a "boy" in politics. Someone whose ego is at stake.
Santorum, by comparison, has always worked to DO something in politics. That is why he staked his career on standing down the liberals at every turn. He did not back down from femi-nazi Boxer when he stared her down on partial birth abortion. He showed courage and tenacity in his efforts to save Terry Schiavo, whose parents wanted her to live and whose husband wanted her to die. He showed courage when he stood by his principles in 2006, standing by George Bush despite the latter's unpopularity. He has repeatedly shown integrity in the way he lives his personal life -- not just talking the talk of pro-life but walking the walk.
Again I ask: If Romney had truly wanted McCain in 2008, where was his "brutal attack machine" then? Why, it was put into mothballs, with Romney secretly hoping that Obama would win and give him his "chance" in 2012. How else to explain his "sin of omission" of not spending a couple of tens of millions on ads to help McCain then? He is worth hundreds of millions, after all, and it would have been "pocket change," or "walking around $$$" to him.
Dai Alanye| 2.13.12 @ 11:27AM
Excellent points.
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:17PM
I dislike Romney intensely, but in fairness I have to say that McShamnesty didn't want attack ads running against the OneWhoWun. No, no, he wanted to be civil and take the high road, and tell us we had nothing to worry about if Obama won.
obadiah| 2.13.12 @ 7:31PM
Terry Schiavo will be alive, healthy and happy when Rick Santorum becomes President.
Anthony| 2.13.12 @ 10:14AM
As long as Romney needs a teleprompter to speak conservative, Santorum will continue to rise as the alternative to moderate Mitt.
Romney is nasty and vicious, I just hope, if he does get the nomination, that he keeps this up on Obozo, and doesn't run another campaign like that loser McCain did.
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 2:57PM
See my comment, just two above yours: Where was Romney's "attack machine" in 2008? It isn't as if Romney is lacking for $$$ to have run, easily, $40-million to $50-million of ads against Obama! No -- Romney sat out 2008, hoping McCain would lose so he would have his "chance" in 2012. How else to explain his sitting on the sidelines in 2008? At the least, he is guilty of the "sin of omission" of NOT spending at least, say, $10-million in ads against Obama.
Al Adab| 2.13.12 @ 10:14AM
Simply put, the thing is, a Romney nomination will once again lead the GOP to defeat. Time and again we follow these candidates from Dewey on and time and again the GOP loses. To quote the old song, "When will they ever learn?"
Even when on rare occasion we won with such, we have been disappointed in the result. Government growth, deficit spending, increased regulation and fail policies. There is no substance here.
TrueBlue| 2.13.12 @ 7:15PM
Insanity it doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
David| 2.13.12 @ 10:47AM
Santorum will provide the greatest contrast with Bam Bam.
Remember, Newt, Mitt, and Barack all hold the following positions.
They believe in man-caused global warming baloney, and the regulations and restrictions that have resulted from such thinking. Santorum does not.
They supported the Wall Street bailouts. Santorum did not.
They support and/or supported individual mandates for health insurance. Santorum never has.
They all criticized Paul Ryan's plan to get our fiscal house in order. Santorum embraced it.
Santorum is of the opinion that ILLEGAL immigrants have not broken ONE law (by crossing the border) as many claim, but that they have continually been breaking America's laws by working here, driving here, etc., and should NOT be rewarded for doing so.
Santorum cannot be accused of being a flip-flopper.
Santorum cannot be accused of telling people what they want to hear.
Santorum cannot be accused of stating his positions based on the particular audience in front of him at the time.
Santorum is a fighter for what he believes and has always been the underdog in heavily democratic and union PA, and except for once, he has always been a winner. He has been able to convince democratic voters to stick with him for the very reason that he stuck by his conservatives principles.
It is clear that Santorum has been the adult in this race. His criticisms have been on the other candidates' records and he does not distort or misrepresent their records as they do to one another.
It is also clear that he has been the true, principled, consistent conservative his entire politcal career.
scotchieguy| 2.13.12 @ 11:13AM
I agree with much of what you say. But for me, Santorum seems like a perfect VP candidate.
We are missing the real candidate. This is like watching the backing band warm up until the star shows up. Romney is NOT that star. He is so glib, plastic, phony, etc. I literally can't watch him speak anymore than I can watch Obama speak. Will Americans really fall for Romney's BS if he becomes the nominee? I think Obama wins big if that is the case. The only thing we can hope for is someone like Jeb Bush, Ryan, Rubio, etc comes in to save the day.
Todd| 2.14.12 @ 2:34AM
Oh Please. No Jeb and non open-borders Rubio lecturing us on how we should love illegals. Rubio is amnesty Mel Martinez 2. Paul Ryan - h*ll yeah! No brokered conventions.
Rick Santorum will win Michigan and it will be over for Newt and Romney will look incredibly weak. The GOP establishment will start pushing Jeb or some other pipe dream.
I could see Santorum/Ryan or Santorum/Rand Paul.
Old Soldier| 2.13.12 @ 11:26AM
Santorum spent like a drunken Rino while in the Senate on Medicare Drugs among many other things.
Most of your list are positions he took after losing his re-election campaign by 19 points.
Dai Alanye| 2.13.12 @ 11:30AM
Too much exaggeration! Soldier is beginning to sound like O'Stalin.
Old Soldier| 2.13.12 @ 12:24PM
Details?
I know most of us have tried to block out the Bill Frist / Denny Hastert Congress, but I never heard a peep out of Santorum when he was running with that crowd.
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 6:32PM
So, Old Soldier, if it's Obama vs. Santorum, does it matter?
Old Soldier| 2.14.12 @ 8:23AM
Not much - one authoritarian against another.
I also doubt Santorum has any ability to appeal to independents.
Todd| 2.14.12 @ 2:41AM
Time to do the honorable thing old soldier and fall on your sword. I think you are the same old soldier over at FR bashing Rick. Newt is done. He cannot handle his personal life let alone a campaign or governing. His problems are way to long. Romney? No thanks. Romney and Newt have spent a ton of money campaigning while Rick barely had gas money. Santorum also did not have GOP support and was being ignored by the media.
Your lot demonized Ron Paul even though his foreign policy sounds more like Ike than anyone else. And Ron Paul is correct on The (private) Federal Reserve (corporation).
Rick Santorum is winning evangelicals and Catholics plus he is attracting more and more young people. At CPAC - younger voters were charged up about Santorum. Rick is also youthful and a better looking candidate than the rest of the field including The Looter in Chief who is bankrupting America.
Obama carried the Catholic vote in 2008 but Santorum will win it in 2012 and be elected.
Garfield| 2.13.12 @ 2:05PM
I've had enough of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzDutBRMsXw
Watch it all the way through.
martin j smith| 2.13.12 @ 10:48AM
I think the reason that Romney is not a shoo in right now is because he has no message that resonates while Santorum does. People are tired of the same old same old and I refer you to the 2010 elections. In fact the more Romney continues negative campaigning the more he will lose support. The only way Romney can get on a national basis more than 40% in fact go to 50+% will be to say that he messed up on Romney Care, he gets the message and is ready to lead a new direction and realizes its a new day. He will not do this, but if he did I would need a pill.No Romney continue attacking his fellow competitors and avoid the real target--Obama.
Mike Rogers| 2.13.12 @ 10:52AM
Actually, the Romney wipeout in MN was worse than Stacy wrote:
Santorum 45
Paul 27
Mittens 17
scotchieguy| 2.13.12 @ 10:55AM
All this shows is the base is hungry for a real conservative, nothing more. Newt appeared to have something a month ago, but as is typical, shot himself in the foot with his mouth.
Santorum is a social conservative. The public doesn't care for that, I think they would rather see some more openness on social issues, and a fiscal conservative. At least that would attract some independents. Santorum seem strong on social issues, a war hawk (when people are saying back off), and more liberal fiscally, kind of like Huckabee.
Old Soldier| 2.13.12 @ 11:29AM
Yep. Ron Paul (I'm not a big supporter) is the only fiscal conservative in the bunch. Newt, Mitt, and Rick all have records of massive wasteful spending. Yelling "I'm a conservative" really loud doesn't make it go away.
Occam's Tool| 2.13.12 @ 5:03PM
Yeah. If only Paul didn't support legalization of heroin and gay marriage...
darcy| 2.14.12 @ 5:29AM
What attracts independents keeps the base at home.
If independents want to live in an immoral cesspool then why don't they just go all the way and vote Democrat?
Quelle horreur that a candidate for U.S. president should espouse anything that hints of traditional morality. Meanwhile, Newt is dragged through the coals for his notorious private life.
Let's face it. The Media Matters designed MSM intends to crucify our candidate, whatever his "social" credentials.
David| 2.13.12 @ 11:43AM
Every representative and senator vote for earmarks for his/her district, including the not-so-honest Ron Paul. Even he proposed earmarks for his district, then when they came up for a vote, knowing they would pass, Paul voted against them. Why? So he could stand before an uninformed electorate and say that he never voted for an earmark for his district.
Now, that is not a LITTLE BIT DISENGENUOUS - IT IS A WHOLE LOT DISHONEST - in my opinion.
TrueBlue| 2.13.12 @ 7:26PM
There is nothing wrong with earmarking. The problem is with pork barrel spending.
Earmarking = putting lines in the legislation that takes funds allotted for that bill and gives it to a specific business/region/state for use on the projects written into the bill
Pork Barrel= putting lines in the legislation that takes funds allotted for that bill, or adding additional funds, and giving it to a business/region/state for use on projects NOT related to the bill.
Look at Santorum's record, he voted for earmarks, yes, but every one that I have gone through (I won't try to say I've read them all) has been for projects directly related to the purpose of the bill.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 12:00PM
I would love to see the truly honest commenters come back here after MI primaries and assure us all how wretched the primary voters think Santorum is versus Mitt/Paul/Newt.
When someone like Rick comes in, stays in, carefully manages money, shakes little peoples' hands, and jumps through all the stupid hoops, and beats the RINO Machine pre-ordained liberal Dead Elephant candidate, that demonstrates ALL of the characteristics desirable in the guy who has to beat not only the illegal alien who is presently dictator, but the MSM propaganda machine as well.
When Rick sweeps into office with the next wave of Republicans in Nov to back him up, we might actually (manic moment here!) see some positive change.
TrueBlue| 2.13.12 @ 7:28PM
Seriously, the way Santorum has run his campaign should be proof enough for people that he can effectively manage money. He has spent less than ANY OTHER CANDIDATE.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 12:02PM
I would love to see the truly honest commenters come back here after MI primaries and assure us all how wretched the primary voters think Santorum is versus Mitt/Paul/Newt.
When someone like Rick comes in, stays in, carefully manages money, shakes little peoples' hands, and jumps through all the stupid hoops, and beats the RINO Machine pre-ordained liberal Dead Elephant candidate, that demonstrates ALL of the characteristics desirable in the guy who has to beat not only the illegal alien who is presently dictator, but the MSM propaganda machine as well.
When Rick sweeps into office with the next wave of Republicans in Nov to back him up, we might actually (manic moment here!) see some positive change.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 12:04PM
Whoops, double-click enthusiasm alert! Mia culpa
Roger| 2.13.12 @ 12:33PM
It is really hard for me to decide who is worse,Romney or Santorum. Romney has Romneycare,the assault weapons ban,wanting to index the minimum wage to inflation,a weak limpwristed tax policy. Santorum is a right to work and strker replacement opposing,social issues obsessed nanny stater.
Bill| 2.13.12 @ 12:47PM
Santorum's record:
1. voted for raising debt ceiling 8 times, adding to the national debt $3 trillion because PA was a blue state
2. voted against "Right-to-Work" law because PA is a pro-union state
3. voted for the Medicare Part D because PA has a large population of retirees
Time and time, santorum surrendered to his liberal constituents and failed to stand up with the majority of people of PA, and that is why he lost his senate bid by 18 points to a "silly" liberal Bob Casey in 2006.
wanne be the President? You wish!
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 1:23PM
Yeah, Bill and Roger, we get that you are concern trolls deeply anxious about how we'll turn into a socialist country if the stupid readers of AmSpec should be such gullible fools as to demonstrate how ignorant they by voting for for Rick over the the much more desirable choices offered to them.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 1:28PM
A vote for Rick Santorum is a vote for fascism and big government...right? We absolutely CANNOT have someone trying to raise the moral fiber of our social discourse in America! Yikes! The ACLU ought to continue to be in charge of that... Snort.
I don't believe Rick voted for TARP, did he? Mitt was for it and so was Newt. Hmmmmmm
Mike Rogers| 2.13.12 @ 1:28PM
But wait, there's more...
We couldn't figure the conundrum whereby CPAC voters wanted principles over 'electability' by a big margin, and then chose Mittens over Santorum by a small margin. THEN I read the Politico article Stacy referenced, and my eyes had not deceived me - there were a LOT of youngsters in Romney 'uniform', and now we know they were bused in and paid for.
Hey, Mittens, money can buy you people, but it can't buy you love - that is why you have no base.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 2:27PM
I respectfully differ... He was able to purchase the GOP, Coulter, Christine O'Donnell, Pawlenty, Chris Christie, LDS, the Bush Dynasty, Rove, Fox News, and for awhile, National Reveiw ("purchase" may only be synonymous with the respect accrued by the wealthy, and with "electability", but that is enough, just like the rich always having an endless line of credit because they ARE rich). The rich are never "friend"-less, it just comes down to what the definition of "friend" really is, and what use those friends ultimately are to you.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 1:37PM
I find it interesting that the "CPAC Edition" of the last HotAir poll, an audience that overlaps the AmSpec audience, has Rick stomping all over his rivals. PPP and ARG polls have Rick WAY ahead of his rivals in MI right now.
Garfield| 2.13.12 @ 2:06PM
Everyone that is going off on Gingrich on Cap & Tax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzDutBRMsXw
Watch it all the way through, I did.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 2:29PM
Sitting on the love seat with Pelousy DOOMED Newt with me forever.
Garfield| 2.13.12 @ 3:07PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzDutBRMsXw
I think Newt made up for that mistake if you watch it through to the end, he really rips Henry Waxman (D) a new one.
Jabber3| 2.13.12 @ 3:04PM
I have known Rick Santorum for over 15 years on a personal basis. He is a fine gentleman and an advocate for conservative causes but believe me when I say he is not presidential material. Vice President maybe?
Garfield| 2.13.12 @ 3:08PM
I have no problem with that, I would have no problem voting for Santorum in the General either, as long as Romney is not on the ticket.
Drunken Sailor| 2.13.12 @ 4:05PM
Just how do you come up with a man being a good VP but not the president, when the VP's main function is to step into the presidency?
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:23PM
That would be fine if we had someone that was of Presidential timbre running along with him, but no one else in the race is even close.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 3:11PM
Oh we REEEEEALLY believe you concern troll Jabber3. Thanks for the info, you kept me from making a terrible voting mistake, as I have implicit faith in your goodwill toward both primary voting conservatives and your good buddy Rick Santorum. It's so nice to know someone will sacrifice his personal acquaintances' efforts for the good of the AmSpec comment tread readers. Such altruism is so seldom seen...Heh.
Zious| 2.13.12 @ 3:18PM
Santorum seems to be the ultimate likely nominee of the GOP. After all the crushing and grinding is done, he might end up the only one able to stand up on one feet to take on Obama. Sadly the GOP failed to find a single viable candidate, someone special like a Ronald Reagan. www.sci-burr.com. However hard these last 4 contenders fight the battle for the nomination we obviously have lost part of the war already. A tired, bruised, hurt soldier can only hold fort for so long before he falls.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 3:38PM
Pew Poll just out: Santorum 30%, Romney 20, Newt 17, Paul 12%.
Garfield| 2.13.12 @ 3:49PM
Just wait for Romney's smear machine to get going, then we'll see.
Roger| 2.13.12 @ 3:55PM
Catholicism,especially Santorum's pre Vatican 2 variety is plenty weird too.
David Brock| 2.13.12 @ 4:09PM
We have a place for you in my org. Roger ;)
David Brock| 2.13.12 @ 4:11PM
In fact, now that I think about it, we do have a 'turfers budget, and I think I remember signing a check w/ your name on it...good work, and keep it up!
J Robert Giles| 2.13.12 @ 4:15PM
We're perilously close to the edge of the cliff. Jerk the wheel back to the right before we Sheen ourselves! Please read & share the following article. Silence is tyranny.
http://jrobertgiles.blogspot.c.....wheel.html
David| 2.13.12 @ 4:43PM
Jabber 3, if Santorum is not qualified to be prez, then WHY in the world would you want to see him as prez.? Pleeeease get a clue.
Roger| 2.13.12 @ 5:04PM
When will Rick show us his tax returns?
libertypatriot| 2.13.12 @ 5:14PM
At least Santorum is a consistent Neo-Conservative. America cannot afford Neo-Conservative policy any more and it will be the GOP's death knell.
D. Brock| 2.13.12 @ 5:19PM
Yes, let's vote for the RINO Paul, as his is not duplicity at all. Oh, wait, it's alright to lie if good comes from it in the end. If I go out and get elected calling myself a Democrat and then govern like a conservative Republican, it's O.K. 'cause I meant to do good by my lying weasel words.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 5:36PM
Ron Paul is a Libertarian and used to run under that label. To call himself a Republican is a lie. To say he is not a racist is also a lie. To say he never supported (different than saying he voted for them) that is a lie.
Running a plank in his platform like anti-national security is also bad form. Ron Paul is NEVER going to get within a hundred miles of POTUS.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 6:51PM
"never supported earmarks" that should be
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:26PM
un-PC yes. Racist? Bunk! I've read the columns and they are not racist, just realistic. Of course, in this PC addled world being realistic is the same as being racist, particularly to the loony left.
Brian| 2.13.12 @ 5:15PM
Mark my words. CPAC was nothing more then a memorial service for the Republican party. The party is divided in two. Any social conservative that votes republican is deluding himself.
D. Brock| 2.13.12 @ 5:22PM
Dude, come to work for me!
Brian| 2.13.12 @ 5:46PM
No thanks. Brock works for the Repub establishment. Just who do you think votes for multi--billion dollar tax breaks for big leftist media? Republicans!
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 5:59PM
I guess you haven't visited Wiki on who Brock is yet, huh? He once wrote for this paper and then he flipped his wig, and lost his sanity. He created Media Matters which was originally to cover Hillary's sins(for power in her presidency) and now he works for Soros and the Obamunists slanting the American Pravda media further towards communism and our commie overlords.
D. Brock| 2.13.12 @ 5:15PM
Atta boy, Rog! My kind o' guy! Maybe I'll introduce you to Hillary one of these days.
D. Brock| 2.13.12 @ 5:21PM
Secular humanism is my religion, and its moral relativity and situational ethics my guide. I am god, and what I say is right is therefore right(as long as I mean well by it).
David| 2.13.12 @ 5:45PM
So you know, out of the 7 candidates who WERE left in the race, Santorum was second to the BOTTOM as far as net worth.
Roger| 2.13.12 @ 6:07PM
I am sorry. Forget we can'r criticize Santorum on here. He is the sacred cow. Long live the Virgin Mary!
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 6:47PM
Your post, earlier:
Roger| 2.13.12 @ 3:55PM
"Catholicism,especially Santorum's pre Vatican 2 variety is plenty weird too."
Actually, as a faithful Catholic who believes all that the Church teaches, I think that I agree with you. In fact, I have considered writing a book whose title would be something on the order of "Catholicism is Preposterous."
Indeed, in John's Gospel, chapter 6, there is the only recorded instance of Jesus's followers no longer believing in Him (which is different from the cowardice shown by the Apostles' panicky denial of Him when he was being interrogated before his execution). These soon-to-be ex-disciples couldn't accept Jesus's teaching that in order to have eternal life, one must literally "gnaw" on His flesh and drink His blood -- the Greek words are repeated, and become more and more emphatic as the scene progresses. Indeed, if Jesus had intended His words to be metaphorical or symbolic, He would have called these disciples back: "Oh, wait!! I don't mean these words literally!!" Why would Jesus let these disciples go away from the path to salvation if He believed that they were simply misunderstanding Him? Wouldn't such a view accuse Jesus of deliberately allowing these disciples to be mistaken, and therefore to go to their (potentially) perdition?
The Pharisees and Sadduccees also thought that Jesus was "weird," to use your term, or "preposterous," to use my own term. Indeed, they executed Him, overtly, for the crime of blasphemy. How "WEIRD" or "PREPOSTEROUS" of Him to claim Himself to be the equal of God, to be ONE with the Father!! Again, I agree with Roger that all of Christianity is "weird" about this -- claiming a God who became a real human being!!
Catholicism of the 21st century is proven to have descended almost unchanged back to the very first century. Just read the Church Fathers -- for example, Ignatius of Antioch. Read any one of a number of modern authors if you don't believe me: for example, Jimmy Akin (a convert); or Mike Aquilina. Or, go to the website for the St. Paul Center for Biblical Theology, founded by Scott Hahn (another convert): http://www.salvationhistory.com/
In any event, Roger, your sneering remarks harbor a kernel of truth. You just need to learn about "the rest of the story": namely, that -- yes, Catholicism is "weird"; but so is ALL of Christianity. But you know what? It is also TRUE!!!
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 7:24PM
Calling Catholicism the "one true church" is gonna take you and a lot of other people to a place we really don't want to go on a political blog, perhaps? According to James ALL religion is vain. If we follow a human-instituted religion, based on man's vain attempts to please God (impossible) by our own religiosity we will all fail. Jesus said in John 14:6 "I Am the way, I Am the truth, I Am the life no man cometh unto the Father but by/through me" (there was no mention of a denominational affiliation), and He also said (Matt 3:29)"Call no man your "Father" on earth, for one is your father which is in Heaven". St Paul says in Romans 1:17 that "the just shall live by faith" and in Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are we saved, through faith, and that not of (in)ourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast". Paul says in Titus 3:5 "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us..." Acts 2:12 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is NO OTHER NAME, under heaven, given among men whereby we must be saved" Those who let other sinful humans read and interpret the Bible for them will be led astray. Paul says of Christ's followers in 1 Peter 2:9 "But you are...a royal priesthood..." I do not need a priest to go to God for me, Christ "sits at the right hand of the Father ever making intercession..." for me. No where in the Bible is a denominational affiliation necessary, and in fact the criminal on the cross next to Christ was let into Heaven merely by professing his faith in who Christ was and asking Him to save him. No pope, nor priest, nor father, nor reverend, nor baptism, nor anything else was necessary but faith in Christ alone, admission of guilt and request for salvation, period. The same goes for EVERYONE, right now this very moment. There is no knowing how many seconds one has left, best call on His help now.
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:30PM
Funny that when he said "this is my body," and "this is my blood" it was he that handed the disciples to bread and wine. People ridicule red neck Baptists for being silly in their literalism, yet people are supposed to leave Roman Catholics alone when the picture is completely different from what they claim it was? Not even the Roman Catholic bible translations agree with the RCC stance on the bread and wine being his literal body and blood.
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 8:06PM
You Seem To Have A Catholic Problem, Ass Clown, Quartermaster.
" Catholic Christians together with other historical Christian Churches (e.g., Eastern Orthodox and Byzantine Christians, Lutherans, Anglicans and some Episcopalians, etc.) believe the literal words of Jesus - that the bread and wine are truly his body and blood."
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 7:31PM
Don't wait until next Sunday to confess (1 John 1:9), The whole book of Hebrews is VERY clear as to whom is our high priest now that Christ has taken that spot by His self-sacrifice on our behalves.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 7:52PM
Acts 4:12 There is no other name...whereby salvation...
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 9:26PM
If we were all Catholic, there would BE no "denominations," would there now? We would all be one, just as Jesus prayed for.
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 9:57PM
I don't intend to "sling Bible verses" with you. I would encourage you to try to understand the Catholic claim to the "fullness of truth," of which portions remain in other Christian denominations, and of which glimpses are given to all people of good will.
Begin with our Catechism -- it is shot through with references to Scripture.
For your edification, I would recommend that you read some of the wonderful apologia written over the last century or so. A few worthy authors: Scott Hahn; Jimmy Akin; Mark Shea; Patrick Madrid; Bruce Sullivan; Karl Keating; Dietrich von Hildebrand; G. K. Chesterton; John Henry Cardinal Newman. Go to these websites (I can't "hotlink" them all due to restrictions on this site -- just type in www. before and .com after these names): Catholic for answers to your questions; catholicapologetics; scripturecatholic. There are many others.
Please consider: when it's just you and the Bible, doesn't that make you your own "pope"? Why are there so many Protestant denominations? Because there are so many disagreements -- a violation of Christ's prayer that we would all be one (John's Gospel 17:21).
Besides, who do you think gave you the Bible? Why would it be that God could guarantee the infallibility of the Bible but somehow would not guarantee the infallibility of the teaching office that codified that same Bible? Jesus didn't say, "Go to the whole world passing out Bibles"; He said, "Go forth and teach all nations" -- of necessity, the concept of "teach" inherently includes authority, an authority which must be visible and concrete in its demands to mean anything worthwhile. (Otherwise, you end up believing whatever you want, claiming it to be straight out of the Bible. "Every man a pope; every man a pope; but no one wears a crown!!")
Go learn the early Church -- it was quite Catholic, from the beginning. Jimmy Akin and Mike Aquilina particularly are good at explicating the Catholic-ness of the Catholic Church by quoting directly from the Church Fathers, going all the way back to the year 100 or so, when Ignatius of Antioch wrote his epistles en route to Rome and martyrdom.
As for your assertion about needing a priest, remember that Jesus said to the Apostles "whose sins you forgive are forgiven; whose sins you hold bound are held bound." It is tautological that in order to hold a sin bound, the priest must know what that sin is, and the attitude of the sinner confessing it. Aural confession is a necessity for the priest to carry out this command (John 20:22-23).
Finally, consider visiting the Coming Home Network, instrumental in assisting many Protestants to the "fullness of truth": www.chnetwork.org
Peace, brother.... My peace I give to you.
David| 2.13.12 @ 6:42PM
Old Soldier, Santorum was NOT "running with that crowd" as you put it. Santorum many times was going against the grain of repub leadership. He was pushing for SS and entitlement reforms when everyone was telling him to drop them as issues. I have watched him too long, and watched too much C-SPAN for years, to let you distort Santorum and his solid conservative positions on almost every issue.
People have posted here, ad nauseum, his conservative ratings from various conservative groups.
Who do you know who scores as consistently high with those groups as Santorum. Even Fred Thompson, who was the conservative choice last time around, didn't come close to Santorum's conservative ratings by those groups.
Silver Bullet| 2.13.12 @ 6:52PM
Thank you, David. I get tired of the hysterical postings accusing Santorum of being everything from a virtual socialist to a "papist-theocrat." People who accuse him of these things are propagandizing, and "in their hearts, they know that he (Santorum) is right" to borrow Goldwater's campaign slogan......
These posters usually, in my opinion, harbor anti-Catholic animus -- yes, bigots..... But they are smart enough to know to hide it behind these bogus "issues." The worst of these is "he can't get elected." Well, YES HE CAN!!!
David| 2.13.12 @ 7:29PM
SIlver Bullet, you may be on to something there about his Catholicism. I guess I give posters on this site (most of them anyway) too much credit and think they would not let Catholicism get in the way of voting the most conservative. candidate. But wait, Newt is also a Catholic, albeit a recent convert. And people should realize that many of our favorite conservatives over the years have been Catholic: Bill Bennett and William Buckley to name only two.
Quartermaster| 2.13.12 @ 7:33PM
Frankly, Santorum's Catholicism doesn't bother me. If he had the intention of trying to repeal the 1st amendment and make Roman Catholicism the state religion it would be different.
OTOH, the overall morality of the RCC, as they teach it, but not as the Hierarchy lives it (they are a bunch socialists and are now getting burned by the Obummer whose Obamacare they supported). The hierarchy has as yet to face the rot in their ranks.
Your Inner Voice| 2.13.12 @ 7:43PM
The Dead Elephant Party is a zombie party now, and Santorum may have a temporary positive impact (especially by carrying in more TEA Partiers with him in Nov), but only radical change of leadership and attitudes in upper management of the Gay Old Party (a bunch of soft socialists) is going to change the direction of the country, or at least give it a parachute.
Clint| 2.13.12 @ 7:48PM
Do Your Homework.
" In 1984, it was reported that a meeting occurred between Cardinal Ratzinger, head of the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the CELAM bishops, during which a rift developed between Ratzinger and some of the bishops.[20] As mentioned above, Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) issued official condemnations of certain elements of liberation theology in 1984 and 1986.
After this, and throughout the 1990s, Ratzinger, as prefect of the CDF, continued to condemn these elements in liberation theology, and prohibited dissident priests from teaching such doctrines in the Catholic Church's name. Leonardo Boff was suspended and others were censured. Tissa Balasuriya, in Sri Lanka, was excommunicated. Sebastian Kappen, an Indian theologian, was also censured for his book Jesus and Freedom.Under Cardinal Ratzinger's influence, theological formation schools were forbidden from using the Catholic Church's organization and grounds to teach liberation theology in the sense of theology using unacceptable Marxist ideas, not in the broader sense."
Nick099| 2.14.12 @ 12:15AM
Yep....Gingrich is wiped out cause of CPAC...I mean after all....the vote is so predictive of future events... Ron Paul and Romney have won them several times in recent past...so factually CPAC straw vote means nothing. Santorum won in states with less than 10% voter turnout ( as did Romney) and no delegates awarded, so except for momentum in the Media...how does this matter at all???? The answer is; it does not matter. But Media outlets are trying to make it matter.
They know Santorum has a big mouth and when he gets hot under the collar he comes across as very small and unimpressive...annoying in fact. The establishment types want Santorum because it means an ultimate Romney victory...and I like Santorum. I just do not think he has the tools Gingrich has.
The paragraph about the press conference calling Gingrich "petulant" is nothing more than a smear and a lie. i watched the whole event live. He was neither "petulant" or "whiny" or" zany." He answered all questions in a direct matter of fact manner. It was refreshing. The new media and its' establishment handlers are making a huge mistake: betting all on Romney by bolstering Santorum is dangerous. Romney is weak, despite all the millions propping him up. When he ran on issues Gingrich destroyed him. Santorum was no where to be found. When Romney attacked with $20 million in sleazy adds, he pulled out a win in Florida. Nevada was a very low turnout of 7.5% in a state that is 26% Mormon. Santorum's victories while nice, where also equally low in turnout and awarded no delegates. yet the chucklebutts continue to post delegate results as if they were awarded. Even Florida will have to be divided up per RNC rules so Romney did not get the whole 50. He gets a percentage...so after all the money he spent, to destroy Gingrich, Romney ends up with 6-8 more delegates???? That does not sound like a great investmnet of capital to me especially coming from a guy whose only claim to fame is that he was some type of gifted investment manager. The whole coverage is disgusting. Try reporting the news instead of your freakin opinion. From the looks of it, this writer would be far better off. He does not have the intellectual capacity necessary for proper analysis.
Garfield| 2.14.12 @ 6:32PM
If Gingrich was really as unelectible as people are claiming, those same people wouldn't be expending all this effort to sabotage his campaign.
POST American| 2.14.12 @ 12:21AM
--------------------FINAL WORD------------------------
"Notice, once again, s the REAL campaign
approaches, the REAL issues 'disappear'."
---The Globalist RED China handover
-----The TAX FREE, seditious 'benny violent'
EUGENICS and TREASON foundations
-------The ILLEGAL, and beyond criminal,
PRIVATE, USURY driven, debt serf generating,
traitorous, EUGENICS mongering 'FED'
--------NAFTA/ GATT
----------'Banker Bailouts'
----------NDAA 1021
-------------PELOSI calling for further
police state surveillance while visiting the
GENOCIDE capitol of the world --RED China
----------------GINZBURG dissing the Constitution
--------------------the PRIVATE EUGENICS borg
---the TAX FREE, and NOW tax collecting UN
----------------------the FUKISHIMA world depop op and cover up.
Just --some-- of the REAL issues.
fckewe| 2.14.12 @ 1:16AM
Santorum's emphatic dogma only appeals to a very short 1/4 of the country, most of whom are afraid their neighbors scorn of them for their REAL beliefs is too expensive a price to pay for speaking the truth.
his ultra Sterile Christian Fascism with it's moral dictates and faulty supposition that GOD actually exists, has laws that were NOT written in sand by men and insists on discrimination against women, the poor, non whites and the needy, helpless and handicapped of our society will hand Obama a Johnson/Reagan size landslide win.
The UNUM should NEVER rule the PLURIBUS, and unstammering deception as to who is coercing who makes the third most corrupt Senator of his term a poor choice even for those that believe his schlep.
Silver Bullet| 2.14.12 @ 8:04PM
It never ceases to amaze me, "fckewe" (scatological name, likely owned by a scatological person), that when people start making accusations such as you have, that you (seemingly) fail to realize that the person being excoriated surely does not believe himself to be the things you say.
Do you honestly believe that Santorum considers himself to be guilty of "discrimination against women, the poor, non whites and the needy, helpless and handicapped...."?
If not, then why not?
Are you, "fckewe," capable of analyzing Santorum's thought processes as to why he does NOT believe himself to be the things you accuse him of? I doubt it. You strike me as being incapable of considering the possibility that your rhetorical, supposed opponent (Santorum) might have a brain and actual reasons for his views, and that he might -- just might -- fail to see himself the way you do.
Is your intellect, "fckewe," so blindingly brilliant that you cannot deign to stoop to explain answers to my two questions above??? Hmmm?
I am waiting a reply.
Sincerely,
"Silver Bullet"
Lynn Otting| 2.14.12 @ 5:16PM
Unfortunely for both candidates, Newt is not out of this race. Let's not vote for the candidate that has the only workable tax and energy plans. Let's not vote for the candidate that can actually beat President O'bama. Let's not vote for the candidate that has set and achieved goals for the advancement of conservatism. Newt has done more to advance the cause of conservatism than anyone in the presidential race. He not only ended 40 years of Democratic control in the House, he ended Democratic control of southern states like Georgia too. Republicans forget how much Newt has done for conservatism. Regardless of how he did it and whether he made a few mistakes along the way, he accomplished his goals. For example, he didn't quit until Republicans controlled the house. It took him over 12 years to achieve this goal. (Funny, how people are so quick to conclude that Newt quit the speakership because he was scared he didn't have the votes to win. How difficult is it to understand that he would rather step down than risk the Republicans losing control of the house.) Unfortunately, people just don’t get that the one and only reason Newt has ever done and will ever do anything is for conservatism, not individualism.
Garfield| 2.14.12 @ 6:33PM
I will go a step further and point out that the Obama media wouldn't be trying to sabotage Gingrich's campaign like this if Obama wasn't genuinely afraid to face Gingrich in an election.