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Southern Showdown

Four fight in a final debate before South Carolina decides.

CHARLESTON, S.C. — The race for the Republican presidential nomination has finally come down the Final Four, and the swift reduction of the field helped make Thursday night’s debate here arguably the most entertaining of the 17 televised debates during this long campaign.

Yet the debate was in some sense anti-climactic, coming as it did on the heels of so much drama elsewhere on the South Carolina campaign trail. “The last 24 hours, I think, will go down in primary history as probably one of the most tumultuous 24 hours that we’ve seen,” former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum said after the debate at the North Charleston Convention Center, televised on CNN.

Thursday’s biggest developments in the campaign preceded the debate by several hours. First, ABC News began releasing excerpts of its interview with Newt Gingrich’s ex-wife, who claimed that the former House Speaker had asked her to have an “open marriage.” Next, officials in Iowa reported that the final count from the Jan. 3 caucus showed that Santorum had beaten former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney there. Then, Texas Gov. Rick Perry called a press conference to announce that he was suspending his campaign and endorsing Gingrich.

Perry was the second candidate to drop out of the race this week, following Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman’s withdrawal Monday. This winnowing of the Republican field in South Carolina, strangely delayed after the usual proving grounds of Iowa and New Hampshire, produced a quartet of candidates — Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, and Texas Rep. Ron Paul — who mixed it up in a feisty battle that began with a volatile exchange between Gingrich and CNN moderator John King.

King asked if Gingrich would like to respond to the accusations made by his ex-wife, Marianne. “No,” said Gingrich, “but I will.” This produced cheers from the Republican audience, and then Gingrich said: “I think the destructive, vicious, negative nature of much of the news media makes it harder to govern this country, harder to attract decent people to run for public office. And I am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate on a topic like that.… To take an ex-wife and make it two days before the primary a significant question for a presidential campaign is as close to despicable as anything I can imagine.” Gingrich finished his mini-lecture by saying, “I am tired of the elite media protecting Barack Obama by attacking Republicans.” Less than 10 minutes after the CNN broadcast began, Gingrich had already received two standing ovations.

Gingrich’s masterful debate performance, however, did not change the fact that it was he — and not the “elite media” — who divorced his second wife in order to marry Calista Bisek, a congressional staffer 23 years his junior with whom he had been having an affair during the same period when he led House Republicans to impeach President Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky scandal. The latest Rasmussen Reports poll of South Carolina Republicans showed that Gingrich had pulled ahead of Romney prior to Thursday’s debate, and if his strong showing enables Gingrich to win Saturday’s primary, it will put a serious dent in Romney’s claim to be the “inevitable” GOP nominee. Conservatives who have supported a series of “Not Mitt” candidates in an attempt to prevent Romney’s nomination will have cause to celebrate such a result.

However, a win here by Gingrich might jeopardize the Palmetto State’s boast, “We pick presidents.” Since 1980, no Republican has won his party’s presidential nomination without winning the South Carolina primary, and Gingrich’s long-term campaign prospects are problematic. Even in one of the most conservative states in the country, Gingrich has struggled to close the deal with GOP primary voters, and 30-something percent of the vote here would scarcely be enough to make him an overwhelming favorite for the nomination. The obstacles to Gingrich’s candidacy involve more than Romney’s well-funded campaign and opposition by the “elite media.” There is also the problem of Gingrich himself.

It was Santorum who summarized this problem best after he was asked by CNN’s King about a suggestion Gingrich made this week that Santorum should quit the race and endorse Gingrich for the good of the conservative cause. “Grandiosity has never been a problem with Newt Gingrich, he handles it very well,” Santorum said, pointing out that he had finished ahead of the former speaker in both Iowa and New Hampshire. And he characterized Gingrich’s style as a leader of House Republicans during Santorum’s years in Congress: as “an idea a minute. No discipline, no ability to be able to pull things together.” Gingrich is prone to “worrisome” outbursts, Santorum said, contrasting this with his own “steady” conservatism.

However valid that criticism might be, it appears that conservatives in South Carolina are rallying behind Gingrich as the best hope to halt Romney’s momentum and, if Romney loses here Saturday, the battle between the GOP’s Final Four will continue on to Florida, which holds its primary 10 days later. It may yet be a while before the championship of this long presidential tournament is decided.

About the Author

Robert Stacy McCain is co-author (with Lynn Vincent) of Donkey Cons: Sex, Crime, and Corruption in the Democratic Party (Nelson Current). He blogs at The Other McCain.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (297) |

Jack in Wi.| 1.20.12 @ 6:32AM

I think this a barrel of laughs. I turn in to these debates to see how the moderators try to marginalize Ron Paul and how he always comes out on top. The 3 stooges pictured above are unelectable because of their, chickenhawk warmongering, and total failure to address the massive crisis this country is in. The country is bankrupt and is drowning in a sea of debt. The Federal government is bankrupt, so are all the stares, municipalities, banks, insurance companies, and most of the people.

They think we can go on and inflate our way out of it and carry on as usual. Maybe we can, but we will have destroyed the future of the middle class, young people, and the hard working poor. None of the guys would address the problem of how we are supposed to finance endless wars for israel and endless bailouts for the fatcats. They would slash money for grannies dialysis, and grandpa's Social Security, but not cut one penny from Israel's lavish subsidies.

Jack in Wi.| 1.20.12 @ 6:54AM

Romney and Ron Paul are the only guys who have a hope of beating Obama. The polls have shown them tied head to head against him, on several occasions. But Romney and his 2 big government warmongering pals will give us just more of the same. The people need a choice and the Republican elite wants to give more Bush, Dole, McCain, and Gingrich nonsense. We don't want Newt and all his baggage stinking up this election cycle. He would make a laughable family values candidate.

Santorum is just another chickenhawk calling for a 3rd world war aginst Iran. China and the Russians have warned us to stay away from Iran. Even the head of the Mossad, Prado has said, even if Iran had a nuclear weapon it would be no essential threat to the existance of Israel. What the hell would it do with it? The former head of the Mossad Dagan, calls the radicals, who are funding Gingrich and Santorum, the biggest threat to the future of Israel. Halevey, also a former head of the Mossad, has said an attack on Iran is insanity that will hurt the whole Middle East for decades.

The active military is the biggest contributor to the campaign of Ron Paul. They give him 3 times as much as all the others combined.The people that fight these wars want a comander in chief who put them first, not the intrests of Israel, or the oil lobby. End the wars. End foreign aid. Audit the Fed. Slash the Federal budget. Give us back of civil liberties. Return to the Constitution. Ron Paul for Peace, Prosperity and Liberty.

Doorgunner| 1.20.12 @ 7:25AM

Ronpaulstiltskin is done, you Nazi. You and the rest of the Posse Comitatis boys can get out the brandy and have a good cry. And a circle jerk, always the circle jerk.

Dick Nome| 1.20.12 @ 9:00AM

The feeble old crackpot isn't going anywhere but into retirement this year.

rhortus| 1.20.12 @ 12:18PM

Make my debt payments Dick. The "Establishment's" motto is Spend Spend Spend- they won't give up power or upset the AARP.

Larry| 1.20.12 @ 8:33PM

Newt Gingrich is not electable....Does character mean nothing any more? He cheated on two wives, divorced his 2nd wife to marry his mistress, and is being blackmailed by her into giving her book deals, personal appearances, millions fo $$ in jewelry. The American people will not accept Callista as First Lady.
It's not too late for some new candidates...Jim DeMint would be on his way to the presidency if he had entered the S.Car. primary...
McConnell and Cuccinelli of Virginia would be great....We don't have to settle for a choice between a serial adulterer Tellatubby and a wealthy Rino....Wake up, folks, it's only January.

William R| 1.20.12 @ 1:01PM

Nazi Nazi Nazi. Move to Israel.. Get out of my country.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 1:56PM

Make us, Nazi.

Bob Grant| 1.20.12 @ 10:48AM

Hack in W.I.,

Look it. Paul needs to shut.the.hell.up about being the only remaining veteran.

His holier-than-thou attitude gets a little old. Obviously, his service to the country should be appreciated and admired but bears no weight whatsoever as to his qualifications as Commander In Chief.

Case in point: Jimmah Carter (need I say more).

Further, Mr. Earmark should shut his cake hole on fiscal responsibility.

Enough already!

Buck Ofama| 1.23.12 @ 4:01PM

>We don't want Newt and all his baggage stinking up this election cycle. He would make a laughable family values candidate.

The qualification for president does not necessarily include past marital problems. Or, did you think that all it requires is to be a jr senator, no balls, only votes "present", is a mulatto, and elitist snob that bows to foreigners?

Spymaster G.| 1.20.12 @ 7:46AM

Jack's Journal

Diary Entry #RP-34-765-1

Woke early. Took ice-cold bath and scrubbed away the germs with a bar of Lava soap. Germs are insidious creatures, tough to liquidate effectively - like that pimple on the Sinai.

Shaved, and dressed quickly: tan shirt (heavy starch), pressed brown trousers, 1 pair thermal socks (black), and black wing-tips. Used liberal amount of pomade to press hair firmly down to scalp. When I look in mirror, I realize...I could do it. I could almost pass for him. But this deviant society with it's Bank-ster Masters in Tel Aviv is too timid for that...now.

Smacked myself hard in the face and said "Patience is a virtue" 10 times until I was calm again.

Went downstairs and poured myself a steaming hot cup of black, Maxwell House coffee from my Mr. Coffee machine. That Joe DiMaggio was A-OK for a garlic-eater. Gulped down coffeee while it was still hot enough to scorch my esophagus. Pain is life-affirming.

Sat down at my office desk and looked-on to the American Spectator to make sure and be the first one to comment on last night's farce of a debate between our Dear Leader and the 3 remaining Agents of ZOG.

Success! I am the first - again! My dedication is winning over MANY converts to the Dear Leader's cause. They won't admit it, but 50% of this board agrees with everything I say, even when I post as "Clint." That persona came in handy; it made me look even MORE rational.

I sit back for a moment, and contemplate Him as he dances across my desktop screen-saver.

My life for you, Doctor Paul.

Hail, Paul!

END ENTRY

Clint| 1.20.12 @ 7:52AM

" CBS Poll: Independents Prefer Ron Paul Vs Obama

In a head to head match up with incumbent President Barack Obama, the indie voter chooses Ron Paul, a CBS News poll suggested on Monday.

A total of 47% of independent voters said they would choose Ron Paul compared to 45% of independent voters choosing Mitt Romney against Obama, and 41% of independents saying they would choose Rick Santorum. If a Paul-Obama showdown were ever to take place, 47% of independent voters would vote for Paul, 81% republicans and 10% Democrats for a total of 45% of the vote. Obama would get just 40% of the independent vote in that contest, with 85% of the Democrats choosing Obama and 9% of Republicans choosing the President on election day in November. Obama would win the general election by a narrow one point margin if the election was held today between the two."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is In South Carolina.

Doctor Right| 1.20.12 @ 8:18AM

Yes, the Tea Party IS in South Carolina.

That's why Ron Paul is in 3rd place, and will NOT win SC.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 10:45AM

The "Tea Party Rebellion" is also getting booed off stage. HILARIOUS.

Al Adab| 1.20.12 @ 3:08PM

Independents would prefer godzilla to Obama. The monster would cause less damage.

Clint | 1.21.12 @ 8:34AM

Dr.Reich's The RINO-CINO,Who Said He'll Vote For The RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney.

We Are Being Set Up By The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is In South Carolina.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 10:54AM

Paul party? You flight for Guyana is leaving from gate A-8 in 10 minutes. All passengers please have your Kool Aid cups out & ready as you board.

Well done, Spymaster. The funds from the ZOG Fleecing of America operation will be disbursed to your "useful goyim" Swiss bank account by the close of business today!

DevilDog| 1.20.12 @ 11:08AM

remember its DR ron paul and NOT warrior ron paul.

thats because they only military experience ron paul has is handing out pills and giving physicals.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 11:47AM

Not only that, but if he was so dedicated to the service, he wouldn't have bailed after only 3 years. My guess is that he didn't make a promotion board.

DevilDog| 1.20.12 @ 12:26PM

he had a SIX YEAR ACTIVE DUTY CONTRACT and only fulfilled two of them. he was BOOTED to the Air National Guard because he was UNFIT for active duty

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 12:47PM

How unsurprising.

Clint | 1.20.12 @ 7:04PM

Dr.Ron Paul Outranked You, Punk Ass.


Interesting, How The Israel Firster Smear Bund Scum Mock The Only Veteran Miltary Officer Left In The Primaries.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Smear Bund Scum.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 7:09PM

Yeah. A 3 year wonder who never got promoted. Sounds like a hell of an officer.

Clint | 1.21.12 @ 8:39AM

Interesting, How Israel Firster Traitor Bastards,Like 4-F Coward Con-Job, Badmouth The Only American Veteran Now Running For PresidentAgainst The Chickenhawks.

You're A Traitor Bastard 4-F Traitor Bastard Coward, Israel Firster Smear Bund Bibi Butt Boy,Con Job.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.21.12 @ 9:06AM

You're a valor thief & a coward & your candidate was quite obviously a joke of an officer.

And spare me your bawling. John Murthafurka & John Kerry were/are vets too. And they were/are BOTH grade A assholes. Spare me your faux concern for the military when YOU never made an attempt to serve & all you can do is lie about your Second Coming of Audie Murphy Dad, who's citations you still have yet to cite.

At least you're as big a joke as your pathetic candidate.

Adolf H.| 1.20.12 @ 11:38AM

Und, chust vot iss your proplem viss de vay Chack dresses?

Und chust vot iss your proplem viss my goot frend Ron Paul?? He can finish de vork I shtarted viss de "Final Zolution!"

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 11:45AM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Ja. Ze Final Solution to get rid of zose evil CHOOOOOS!

rhortus| 1.21.12 @ 10:42AM

For an attempted smear job, I'll give you a warm fuzzi for creative humor. Why aren't you on SNL?
From what I read on these blogs and see on Fox, CNN, pMSNBC this it the dumbest most brainwashed nation since George Romney.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.21.12 @ 4:07PM

How so? Please, do tell.

Suzy| 1.20.12 @ 9:48AM

From today's Wash Post:

"Gingrich has said on several occasions that he has made mistakes in his life and has asked God for forgiveness."

It seems to me that all the "family values" men, when caught with their pants down, can call on God and quote the Bible better than any pracher.

The GOP lineup is too amusing for words. And NO, I am not going to vote for Obama.

This time I'll sit it out.

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 10:07AM

That's the same as voting for Obama.

Al Adab| 1.20.12 @ 10:17AM

KJack:
You are correct and Suzy reasponsible for the collapse of American self-government. This IS the critical election of our era.

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 10:47AM

Al, I've arrived at a point where I'm starting to think in terms of "existential" when trying to accurately describe the importance of this election. See Suzy's reply, below, to Tim to gain an insight as to the real reason she says she'll sit this one out.

Hobbes| 1.20.12 @ 12:53PM

The devil can quote scripture to suit his purposes. Gingrich would sell his soul for the presidential nomination. I believe he is reformed like his ex wives believe it. Wait till he dumps Callista for a younger model. Soon as she gets a disease or something.

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 1:20PM

You should have spent just a little more time with Locke.

Purp| 1.20.12 @ 1:13PM

Actually, it is not. A no vote is a vote of no-confidence, a protest, in the candidate(s) running. Think hard on the difference.

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 1:23PM

Purp. go back to the history of the First Congress of the United States and take a look at what the ramifications of Speaker Muhlenberg's abstention were. It was one of the more important votes ever taken in the House. Your entirely incorrect in your assertion.

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 1:28PM

Pardon my poor grammar. You're instead of your.

Purp| 1.20.12 @ 4:11PM

And, yet 40% of the possible voters in this country typically don't vote. That's either a protest or a sign of apathy. In any case, if I don't like my choices, I wouldn't vote either - it's not worth my time.

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 5:05PM

How incredibly shallow.

Spymaster G.| 1.20.12 @ 6:20PM

If 40% of voting-age Anericans dont vote, who cares?

That's their business.

Frankly, if they're couch-potato-types with no interest in politics, then I'd prefer that they didn't vote.

That's why when asked, I always tell them not to forget to vote on Wednesday!

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 10:44AM

Obama thanks you for your vote, useful idiot.

Margie| 1.21.12 @ 9:48PM

Suzy:

Better a repentant serial Adulterer in the people's House than an unrepentant Marxist.. don't you think?

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 10:43AM

Know what I think is a "barrel of laughs?" A "proud 4-F," whose father told him it was "better to be a live coward," who calls people "chickenhawks."

Al Adab| 1.20.12 @ 3:18PM

NB:
"Better to die on ones feet than go on living on ones knees" Emiliano Zapata.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 3:38PM

Apparetly, he must've been a "chickenhawk."

Al Adab| 1.20.12 @ 4:18PM

NB:
I don't think so...they gunned him down in the towm plaza.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 4:26PM

He didn't get the "live coward" memo from Jack.

Spymaster G.| 1.20.12 @ 6:23PM

"Jack...always remember son: 'He who fights and runs away, lives to flee another day.' "

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 7:58PM

His Dad must've been in the French army. And I ain't talking the Legion, that's for sure.

Alan Brooks| 1.20.12 @ 1:04PM

Jack can't diss Israel, but John McPain could get away with saying "gooks"?

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 1:44PM

Was Jack tortured by Jews? Not saying I approve or would say that myself, but that's kind of a poor comparison. Read "When Hell Was in Session" by Jeremiah Denton & you'll understand why there might still be some ill will. Furthermore, there are plenty of WWII Pacific theater vets who still call the Japanese "Japs." Hell, in Britain, WWII vets lined the street when Emperor Akihito came to visit & as his motorcade passed, they formed rank & did an about face.

Think of another comparison, Brooks. This one's pretty weak.

Patrick| 1.20.12 @ 2:41PM

Maybe they didn't let him get into art school?

Alan Brooks| 1.20.12 @ 3:01PM

Alrighty, go ahead and clusterf*ck Jack in Wi.-- good for at least 10,000 Nazi jokes.

Alan Brooks| 1.20.12 @ 3:07PM

AS cluster-action of Jack in Wi. might even be good enough for say... SIX MILLION Nazi jokes?

BTW, Henry Ford gets some sort of pass being in antisemite because of his contributions to mass production and the auto industry?

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 3:10PM

Who ever said that? Certainly not me. Are you drinking, Brooks, because you're not making any sense.

Alan Brooks| 1.20.12 @ 4:05PM

Why are so many piling on Jack for being a "Nazi", when he isn't even a white nationalist.
If you want to see some real antisemitism (and they don't exactly cotton to blacks, either), go to the following link:
http://www.stormfront.com

Alan Brooks| 1.20.12 @ 4:06PM

http://www.stormfront.org

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 4:40PM

We know who they are. They endorsed Jack's boy, Paul.

DevilDog| 1.21.12 @ 2:55PM

hey brooks,

you just outed jack

Spymaster G.| 1.20.12 @ 6:25PM

Yeah. So what?

Anybody who goes through what McCain went through has earned the right to say "gook."

Don't like it? Tough. Life's not about what you like.

DevilDog| 1.21.12 @ 2:56PM

damned straight! he has EARNED the RIGHT!

Alan Brooks| 1.20.12 @ 9:40PM

For you, it is always evil far away; such as the Third Reich. What about the evil Confederacy and how it was cast down to its Just Desserts.?

Alan Brooks| 1.20.12 @ 9:44PM

Spymonster,
evil is also close to home, not merely N. Vietnam, the Third Reich, the Soviets..but also the Confederacy.

Evil begins at home.

Clint| 1.20.12 @ 6:34AM

Ricky Specter Santorum,
" Some people call me the space cowboy.
Yeah! Some call me the gangster of K-Street
Some people call me Arlen ,
'Cause I speak of the pompatus of Mr.Neutered"

DevilDog| 1.20.12 @ 11:10AM

pocketlint

some see me as the coward of wusses,

some see me as the rimmer of all things paul,

some people se me as whacko,

and they are all correct.

because like my dad taught me, it is better to live as a live coward than to die as a man

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 12:00PM

One correction. That was Jackboot's daddy who told him that. Clint is still trying to get us to believe his Dad was in WWII without posting any links to his Dad's record, or even mentioning his last name so that we might look up all the citations he supposedly received.

DevilDog| 1.20.12 @ 12:28PM

his daddy WAS in WWII.

havent you ever heard of Adolph Hiler?

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 12:48PM

Oops! My bad...

Clint| 1.20.12 @ 6:45PM

Con Job, The Israel Firster Smear Bund Sociopathic $-F Chickenhawk Makes A Habit Of Attempting To Smear American Combat Officer's, Such As My Dad.

My Dad Was A Combat Officer with The 38th Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron,who fought from Normandy, To Paris, To The Battle Of The Bulge, To Germany ,To The Link Up With The Russkies In Czechoslovakia.

He Holds The Bronze Star, The Silver Star, The Fourragere, The Croix De Guerre ( Presented To Him By France ) And The Presidential Unit Citation .

The Israel Firster Smear Bund Liar, Con Job Also Attempted To Smear Lt. Wesley Ross,Who Was Attached To Dad's Command.

You're The Serial Repeat Liar,Who Picked Out Some 20'Some Year Old From Face Book With The Same Name, As Lt. Wesl3y Ross,Who Served Attached To My Dad's Command And Tried To Pass That Kid Off As Me.

Lieutenant Wesley Ross

146th Engineer Combat Battalion - B Company

On March 4, 2011 at 6:32 pm Wesley Ross said:

My platoon–3rd Platoon, B-Company: 146th Engineer Combat Bn–and a platoon of the 2nd Ranger Bn were attached to a Troop of the 38th Cavalry Squadron for much of the time after we entered Paris 25 August 1944, and the Bulge. We were often among or east of the retreating Germans. This 38th Cavalry Troop was aggressive to the point of being scary! The Cavalry and Rangers did the necessary fighting as we cleared Tellermine roadblocks and abatis. Their activities are spelled out in my book “146 Engineer Combat Battalion–ESSAYONS” REALLY A GREAT OUTFIT the 38TH!

Lt. Wesley Ross.
http://www.battleofthebulgemem.....alion.html

You're A Serial Liar,Israel Firster Smear Bund Boy, ConJob.

Lieutenant Wesley Ross And His 146th Engineers Were attached To My Dad's Command In The 38th Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron.

Interesting, How This Israel Firster Smear Bund Sociopathic Liar, ConJob, A 4-F Neo-Chickenhawk,Who's Dad Was A Navy Dentist, Now Attempt To Smear American Combat Officers.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is On The East Coast.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 7:18PM

I don't give a f**k what sone random guy you picked out of a book has to say. If your father is the "hero" you claim he is, you'd post his name & a link to his citations. You haven't done that. All you've done is post this same canned bullshit screed. And until you do, I'm still calling bullshit on you. Post your father's name or a link to his citations if you want me to shut up/apologize. Until then, you're a valor thief & a fraud. And watching your doddard of a candidate almost get booed off the stage is almost as much fun as clowning you, fraud.

DevilDog| 1.20.12 @ 7:34PM

of course pocketlint cant name his dad. remember his mother did so many at woodstock and was in a drug induced stooper. so how could pocketlint nme his dad when his mother couldnt even remember his face.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 7:38PM

Of Clint looks the way I imagine he does (like Private Pyle from "Full Metal Jacket"), then maybe its best his mom DIDN'T get a good look at the sperm donor.

DevilDog| 1.20.12 @ 7:58PM

wonder if the sperm donor pissed on his mom when he pissed on himself

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 8:01PM

Clint's Mom's in the Taliban? That explains the Jew hatred & the blame America first mentality.

DevilDog| 1.20.12 @ 8:03PM

AHH! so everytime his muzzie dad beats his mom....

now we know why pocketlint blames the Jews. even though his mom and dad werent Jewish

chuck| 1.20.12 @ 9:13PM

cc,
Remember what the drill sarg said to Pyle?

"THE BEST PART OF YOU RAN DOWN THE CRACK OF YOUR MOTHER'S ASS!"

Fits for Clint, too.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 9:26PM

Indeed it does!

"DID YOUR PARENTS HAVE ANY CHILDREN THAT LIVED?!"

"Sir, YES SIR!"

"I'LL BET THEY REGRET THAT! YOU'RE SO UGLY YOU COULD BE A MODERN ART MASTERPIECE!"

Clint | 1.21.12 @ 9:08AM

Like I Said,You're A 4-F Israel Firster Traitor Bastard Sociopathic Keyboard Head Case Liar, Con Job.

Lieutenant WeasleyRoss Was Attached To Dad's Command And Not Some 20 Year Old, You Picked Out From Face Book And Claimed Was Me.

http://www.battleofthebulgemem.....alion.html

Interesting, How You Israel Firster Traitor Bastards Badmouth Decorated American Combat Officers And The Only American Miltary Veteran Officer Still Running For President And Atttempt To Get Your Israel Firster Chickenhawk Candidates Elected Because Of Their Israel Agenda.

We Got Your Number 4-F Israel Firster Traitor Bastard Coward, Con Job.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On 4-F Israel Firster Traitor Bastard Coward, Con Job Again.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.21.12 @ 2:12PM

Ooooh! You've "got my number." I'm horrified, lemme tell ya. Know what else you have? My address, Bacha Bazi Bitch Boy.

Hey, maybe if you post this canned horsecrap another 300 times, with no mention of who your actual Dad is, it might actually come true.

Or not...

DevilDog| 1.21.12 @ 2:50PM

Lieutenant WeasleyRoss Was Attached To Dad's Command

lets see, is weaely your dad?

and what does a person who is NOT your dad have to do with anything?

because it sure sounds like you are saying that everyman in that unit was your dad that weasley was attached to.

so was it that you mother was that loose, or your dad was a rapist!

DevilDog| 1.20.12 @ 7:28PM

but,but, but he was armored unit last time

now he is recon and then again an engineer!

so name the MULTIPLE MOS's

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 7:36PM

How about a last bame or a link for all thise supposed citations? Clint's refusal to list either is very MaoBama birth certificate-esque, wouldn't you say, DDog? And just like MaoBama, he can shut everyone up & make them eat crow by just posting ONE of those 2 things. Unless he's got something to hide. Like a father who never served in WWII.

DevilDog| 1.20.12 @ 7:47PM

we know his uncle! IVAN THE TERRIBLE!

and met his fate at Nuremberg!
but i was just following orders!

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 8:03PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Clint | 1.21.12 @ 9:25AM

But, But, But Bibi Butt Boy Devil's Ass Crack,
Read The Link.
The 38th Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron Was Just That, With 2nd Battalion Rangers And 146th Combat Engineers Attached.

http://www.battleofthebulgemem.....alion.html

Aaaaaand, Lieutenant Wesley Ross Isn't Some 20 Year Old From Face Book, That You Bibi Butt Boys Claim. He Was A Real Combat Decorated Officer, Who Was Attached To Dad's Command.

Intersting, How You Bibi Butt Boys Make A Serial Habit Of Badmouthing American Combat Decorated Officers And The Only Veteran Former Miltary Candidate And Attempt To Get Your Chickenhawk Israel Agendist Candidates Elected .

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On Bibi's Butt Boys.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.21.12 @ 2:17PM

We don't badmouth combat vets. We badmouth valor thieving chickenshits like you who say that their Dad basically has more decorations than freaking Chesty Puller, yet doesn't ever mention said "hero's" name or any links to the citations of ANY of the awards that "hero" supposedly received.

Valor Thief.

DevilDog| 1.21.12 @ 2:52PM

lt weasley

lt weasley

lt weasley

is he your DAD?

all you can do is REFERENCE someone ELSE and CLAIM HE knew your dad.

so do you call ly weasley to find out WHICH of ALL those men were your dad?

Clint| 1.20.12 @ 6:53PM

Devil's Crack Is A Cupcake.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Devil's Crack.

DevilDog| 1.20.12 @ 7:33PM

really? since my crack that you are so fascinated with(freud would say OBSESSED) is doing just fine, then maybe i should check for mites? as in that your stomping is really pathetic. then again, mites would leave a mark and you and your pathetic BOYS have left nothing.

Clint | 1.21.12 @ 9:30AM

Of Course You Say Your Crack Is Doin' Fine, Devil's Crack.

That's Because You Mancrush Bibi's Doin' Your Crack, Sugar Pockets.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Devil's Crack.

DevilDog| 1.21.12 @ 2:53PM

sugar pockets?

isnt that your handle when on stage poledancing and polesmoking at nambla headquarters BOY!

why YES IT IS! backstage you are known as CUPCAKES.

just ask your BUDS!

Conserdude| 1.20.12 @ 6:42AM

Newts behavior in his second marriage should not be off limits since he carried on with a House staffer during impeachment proceedings. It was reckless and risky in the extreme and would have destroyed the GOP majority were it discovered at the time. This alone reveals the kind of man Newt is and disqualifies him for president

Timothy L. Pennell| 1.20.12 @ 9:20AM

Do you not see what our Country has become? Do you not understand that there are NO perfect men? This is why we're (Supposed to be) a Country of LAWS, and not of Men.

The last I looked, this wasn't an Election for Pope, and we are running against a man who is SINGLE MINDED, in his Quest for the Destruction of America. And, the 1st question out of the box is, THIS?

When Gennifer Flowers played us TAPES of Bill Clinton after telling the world that she, and he, had been "Carrying On" an Affair, for 11 of the 12 years Billy Boy had been MARRIED to Fat Ass? The Media Yawned. In fact? They did more than yawn. They did their best to Bail Him Out, with an Interview, right after the Super Bowl, in an effort to get "The Real Story", and not the one from that LYING WHORE".

Remember, back then, when there was a Democrat in the white House, all of the Women, were LYING WHORES. That's why they had a BIMBO ERUPTION Team. To Combat all of these LYING WHORES.

Paula Jones was a Liar. She was "What you get, when you drag a hundred dollar bill, through a Trailer Park". (Hat Tip - Snake Face Carville) Yet, it was Bill Clinton who Lost his Law Licence for 5 years, for "Giving False and Misleading Testimony, to a Federal Grand Jury. (That's PERJURY, when we do it) It was Bill Clinton who paid out $900,000 to the LYING WHORE.

Kathleen Willey accused him of MOLESTING her, in the Oval Office, on National Television. Quanita Brodrick accused him of RAPE, on National television.

Did John King EVER ask him about these things? (Remember. A sitting President has been accused of RAPE.) I'll say it, again: Did John King, or ANYONE in the MSM, ask that MFer any questions on either one of these charges?

Of course not. He was a Democrat. Lying is good. In fact, anyone who DOESN'T LIE, to protect his Family, is not a Man. At least, not a good man.

And, what of His Majesty? What about the Husband of Her Excellency?

Indonesia. Muslim Schools and Mosques. Communist Mother. Marxist Father. Communist Mentor. Marxist Mentor. Weather Underground. Domestic Terrorists. Sealed Records. "Sought out the Marxists Professors". Jeremiah Wright. Bill Ayers. Bernadine Dorn. Louis Farrakhan. Khalid Rashidi. The Black Panthers. Saul Alinsky. Cloward and Piven. KARL MARX.

Yet, there he sits, in the Oval Office. And, WHY is it, that none of this mattered? How can it be, that such a man could be President?

Because he had a "D" next to his name. NOBODY asked a question, cause NOBODY cared. And, we all can see the results of that.

This is not the time to be splitting hairs. There is NOBODY on our side, who is PURE. None of them can Pull the Sword from the Stone. And, none of them will be turning Water in to Wine. NONE OF THEM!

That's not what we need. We need Obama to be GONE. We need to UNDO what he has done. We need to START OVER. Everything under the purview of the Federal Government, needs to be Streamlined, Cut Back, or ENDED. The Military needs to be BUILT BACK UP, but in a Smarter way. There are things that can be paired down. There are things that need to be Increased. And, there are these that can wither on the vine. This President is on a Jihad, to DECIMATE our Armed Forces, to pay for his Marxist Utopia. There's a BIG Difference between "Lean and Mean" and Anorexic.

King Davis was a Womanizer. Solomon, the greatest of all Kings, had his Queen of Sheba. JFK was a RAT, when it came to Honouring his Marital Vows.

Let me give all of you PURITANS a little advice.

This is not the time to Nit Pick. We are on a Rooftop, waiting to be saved, from the rising waters. We don't have time to wait for a Helicopter to come along, that's a certain Colour.

And, of all things, you're gonna make your decision, based on the testimony of A WOMAN SCORNED?

Maybe we DO get the Leadership we DESERVE.

Wake up!

Get your Heads outta your Asses.

This is our LAST CHANCE, as a Country.

Mimi| 1.20.12 @ 9:53AM

Quick...BE QUICK....Send this off by boat, plane bus, telephone,trucks..by WIRE ....to Drudge ,by internet....PRONTO....to SOUTH CAROLINA!
Thanks Tim....YOU hit it!
GINGRICH Spoke to the media last night LOUD & CLEAR....he spoke FOR US to the media....NO MORE! We are on to them and their CLEARING the FIELD for OBAMA!!

Purp| 1.20.12 @ 1:15PM

Yeah, the media has 2 ex-wives and 2 ex-mistresses, one of whom is his current squeeze. Yeah, don't answer the question, deflect it with the "media is bad" rhetoric. The guy is such a sleaze bag, Gingrich should fold up his campaign faster than a cheap suit.

Drunken Sailor| 1.20.12 @ 2:28PM

Let me get this straight. When Clinton was being brought up on perjury charges for lying about his affair all we heard from the left was "That doesn't matter, it doesn't reflect on his job". And who could forget, "It was just sex". Yet a Rebulican commits adultery and the left screams he is unfit for office?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Newt's affair but I am a more than a little sick of the double standard coming from you lefty trolls.

Patrick| 1.20.12 @ 2:53PM

We weren't happy about Clinton's puerile antics, and just because some bloated jackass puts an "R" after his name doesn't make that very same behavior acceptable.

Yes, underneath it all, Gingrich is a jackass. Who else running goes on national television with Nancy Pelosi to rip Paul Ryan's plan as "right wing social engineering?" Who else has worked so tirelessly to shoehorn earmarks into a budget? Who else has spent years whoring himself out to the ethanol lobby?

Newt was and is a whore, and my opinion of him has not changed at all after hearing about his personal life. A vote for Newt is a vote for an old, fat, white Obama.

Drunken Sailor| 1.20.12 @ 3:33PM

If your not from the left I'm pretty damn sure I wasn't talking to you. Vote for whoever you damn well please. I was talking about the double standard from the left, not your holier than thou, I have never made mistakes self. Have a great weekend.

Purp| 1.20.12 @ 9:42PM

IF you're really sick of it, then R's should stop sitting in judgement on what people do in their own sexual lives - it is the hypocrisy of men like Gingrich that makes them a target, and why Clinton was not hurt by the same kind of behavior. Clinton never held himself up as promoting family values and family this and family that. Here's a man, Gingrinch who "believes" in the sanctity of marriage, so much so that he opposes same sex unions and is so much in support of the sanctity of marriage, he can throw away 1 marriage, then another and he's on #3? He calls gay marriage a threat to marriage? It's divorce that is the true threat to marriage, not ANYONE's other marriage.
Comparing one person's failings to another is one more deflection technique, but Gingrinch is the issue now, not Clinton. When you don't practice what you preach you leave yourself open to attack and this is a wound for Gingrinch that he WILL have to face. He is not the victim - he caused the pain, not being able to keep his pecker where it belonged. And, trust me, all men understand this better than you think - and so do women - and the women don't like it at all.
It's akin to Cong Mark Foley, R-FL, supporting anti-child abuse legislation, while sitting at his computer asking teenage pages what they are wearing and if they're "spanking" it now.
If Gingrinch didn't try to tell all of us how to run a moral life, when he clearly has not, he wouldn't have the issue to deal with. Alas, he's an imperfect man, the poor thing, 3 times and counting. And one of those times he was being patriotic - he did it for Ol' Glory. Riiiiighhhttt.

SUBVET| 1.23.12 @ 1:21AM

Newt might be a cheap suit but Mitt is an empty suit.

Suzy| 1.20.12 @ 10:06AM

When a man quotes the Bible and go on and on about "how you treat people" and the importance of "family values," etc., you do expect the speaker to be genuine.

I'm sick to death of these hypocritical "family values" men from the right.

My ex-husband was just like them. He was full of it. A family values fanatic who is now on his fourth wife (20 years younger than he).

Al Adab| 1.20.12 @ 10:21AM

Suzy:
A wise man once said, "If hypocricy were oil, this town (D C ) would be Saufi Arabia.

Yes, we should endeavor to change that and we should expect - and get - more from our elected officials, but this year we must never forget what is at stake; nothing less than the ultimate survival of self-government.

Timothy L. Pennell| 1.20.12 @ 10:26AM

Ladies and gentlemen. I give you Exhibit A: The Woman Scorned.

"Your Honour. I Object. I would like to have Ms. Suzy recognized, by the Court, as a HOSTILE WTNESS, if I could?"

"Objection Sustained."

"Thank You, your Honour."

"I would ask the Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury, to remember that this witness has a SEVERE BIAS, toward my Client, and that everything she says, should be taken in the Context of a person, overcome by her EMOTIONS. Primarily, the emotion of HATE."

Is this how we're gonna pick a Candidate? Are you willing to jettison a good candidate, because the girl he DUMPED, wants to get even?

GROW UP.

Philly| 1.20.12 @ 10:34AM

Among the many morally repugnant posters on this page, you Pennell, are the most repulsive.

From now on, whenever I see your name, my eyes will ignore your putrid contributions.

It's your adolescent tone that is so grating.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 11:00AM

I'm sure he's just as distraught as he could possibly be at this revalation.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 11:00AM

"revelation" in Engrish.

Bob Grant| 1.20.12 @ 11:31AM

Other than, his arbitrary use, of commas I find nothing repugnant about him.

DRed| 1.20.12 @ 12:03PM

Ignorant racism? Ask him how most BLACKS die? (the answer, says Timmy, is drunk and in the gutter) That's after they lived their lives on their KNEES in the GHETTO. I'm off to go eat a POTATO, because that's what Irish people eat.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 12:15PM

I thought y'all just drank Jamie!

:-)

DRed| 1.20.12 @ 12:23PM

I prefer scotch and bourbon. But don't tell anyone.

Drunken Sailor| 1.20.12 @ 2:30PM

For once I agree with you DRed. Mark your calendar. This celtic lad prefers bourbon to scotch but will take either when someone else is buying.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 3:42PM

I've got a bottle of Blanton's at home that my wife bought me for New Year's. I'll hoist a sip to BOTH of you tonight.

As for Scotch, I'm an Isle of Jura fan. It was my Dad's favorite Scotch. And DS, isn't there some unwritten Navy rule about how real Navy men drink Scotch? The reason I ask is because everyone my Dad knew in his career, be they fellow dentists, aviators, or surface warfare types, they ALL drank Scotch. Gin was a close second.

Drunken Sailor| 1.20.12 @ 4:05PM

Yes, there does seem to be a unwritten rule like that but I got by. I don't turn my nose up at it and have been known to order a Glenlivet or JW (any label). But seeing how I was raised on the KY border by people that came from TN I blame my roots.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 4:42PM

Its OK. I understand. As an adopted Souherner who's hometown is Memphis, I get it completely.

Jacqueline R.| 1.20.12 @ 1:44PM

All of you old men with prostate problems--yakking, yakking, yakking on this bloated blog-- are too gross to tolerate any longer.

Your old prostates are gonna pop if you don't get off your fat asses and do something constructive.

Old, shitty men with nothing to do all day but post on this crap site.

Eat shit and die, geezers.

Kiss and Ride| 1.20.12 @ 1:46PM

Hilarious, Jacqueline,

You've pegged these rotten posters. All they can do is spew hatred.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 1:59PM

Ha! You two clapped out skeezes could try to put your heads together & form a complete sentence, but it'd be a futile effort, I'm sure.

Did either of you 2 bimbos have anything of relevance to say, or did you just come here to fling your crap all over the thread for fun?

Oh, & not all of us are as old as you think we are.

Drunken Sailor| 1.20.12 @ 2:32PM

Con,
Is it just me or did you hear a couple of brood hens cackle?

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 3:13PM

I heard dogs. Female ones. They were howling about something. Who knows what, but they seemed to have run off, thankfully.

Bob Grant| 1.20.12 @ 3:10PM

Is this Hillary?

Timothy L. Pennell| 1.20.12 @ 2:40PM

Dear Dumb*ss: Actually, if you REALLY wanna know? (And, you don't) The #1 cause of Death, for Young black Males, is HOMICIDE. Murdered by their fellow Blacks.

Ya happy, now?

The Answer: Drunk, and in the Gutter?

That's how the Muslim/Marxist - Barack Obama Sr. - died.

Got anymore questions, Dirtbag?

DRed| 1.20.12 @ 3:36PM

Yes, Timmy, BUT (and it's a big but) the leading causes of death for all BLACKS (and I speak of african-americans, not the new zealand rugby team) are heart disease and cancer. Sooo, saying that dying in the gutter is dying like a black is kinda dumb.

Timothy L. Pennell| 1.21.12 @ 8:20AM

Can you READ? Seriously. Can you MFing READ?!

I never said that "All Blacks die in the Gutter".
Never said it.

I never said that "Dying in the Gutter is dying like a Black".

What the F*ck is wrong with you? Can you, or can you not, READ the MFing words that are coming outta my mouth?

For the MILLIONTH time: Obama's Mother was an Atheist/Communist. His Father was a Muslim/Marxist who abandoned his Family (Typical Black Man) and Died Drunk, in a Kenyan Gutter.

His Father ABANDONING his Wife and Kid. That's the typical Black part. Get it?
I mean, 85% of Black Children are living in Single Parent Households (Mother) or with a Grandparent. (Grandmother) You're not disputing that FACT, I hope.

The "Dying Drunk, in a Kenyan gutter", part?
That was unique. He gets all the credit for that one.

What's the matter? I'm sure that you had NO PROBLEM with the Muslim calling his Grandmother a "Typical White Woman".

Did ya?

Of course not. That's just the kind of POS that you are.

Now, STFU and GFY.

CAGrandma| 1.20.12 @ 11:45AM

Oh Boo Hoo!!! At least you can say is you understand his every point! Gawd, don't you get it???!!! NONE OF THE CANDIDATES ARE PERFECT!!!!!! Schmuck!

SUBVET| 1.23.12 @ 1:23AM

Sometimes kids tell the truth like it or not.

rhortus| 1.20.12 @ 12:21PM

The Pro-Obama media filter at work.

DevilDog| 1.20.12 @ 11:13AM

bwahahahahahaha

and what number husband are you on?

Buck 0| 1.20.12 @ 11:39AM

Bitter much, Suzy? What husband are you on, by the way, if any?

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 11:51AM

For Suzy:

Lady Astor to Churchill:

"If you were my husband, I would give you poison."

Churchill's reply:

"If you were my wife, Madam, I would drink it."

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 10:15AM

Timothy, Excellent, as always. One thing though, when referring to Mr. Carville, "Serpent Head" is the preferred descriptor, as opposed to "Snake Face". Picky, I know, but one leaves oneself open to criticism from the left if even a little bit incorrect when describing one of their own. In any event, you seem to be in fine fettle this morning. Should be an interesting day on TAS.

Timothy L. Pennell| 1.20.12 @ 10:30AM

Not to mention the fact that, a lot of these Public Union Educated people, out there, may not even know what a "SERPENT" is?

How do you feel about just calling him, what he is: A Dickhead?

That, my friend, is what they call: A Conundrum.

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 11:00AM

Tim, "Dickhead" is more descriptive of one's thought processes while "Serpenthead" is more descriptive of one's physical appearance. However, not being one who appreciates dealing with conundrums early on a Friday, and in the interest of comity, I'll go with "Dickhead", henceforth. By the way, I don't think Philly likes you as much as (most) of the rest of us do. Just a tad nasty, wouldn't you say?

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 11:02AM

Carville has to wear a necktie to keep his foreskin from suffocating himself.

W| 1.20.12 @ 11:47AM

I never understood why Mary Matalin, running Bush's campaign in 1992, was dating Carville, running Bubba's campaign, in 1992. Conflict of interest? I know they are married, but can anyone explain that without saying love is blind?

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 11:56AM

No.

Al Adab| 1.20.12 @ 3:21PM

Re: Matalin/Cafville
It is a corporate merger. No matter which side is in power their firm is employed.

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 4:12PM

Well done.

CAGrandma| 1.20.12 @ 11:48AM

LOL!!!! Oh my, what a horrible picture I have to try to erase from my mind... just ewwwwwww!

Drunken Sailor| 1.20.12 @ 2:34PM

Put him in a turtleneck sweater and call him Richard Cranium.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 3:15PM

GOOD ONE!

Purp| 1.20.12 @ 1:17PM

You mean like calling Mitch McConnell Ol' Turtleface? or Eric Cantor, Eric Cankersore?

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 1:45PM

Or calling "president" Obama Dumbo??

Drunken Sailor| 1.20.12 @ 4:07PM

Or Barney Franks, "Ball Gag Franks.
Brokeback Obama

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 4:46PM

Good ole Ball Gag Bawney Fwank! Gotta love HIM. Along with Chris "Waitress Samich" Dud.

Drunken Sailor| 1.20.12 @ 4:57PM

and lets not forget
Weiner

shoebox57| 1.20.12 @ 10:41AM

Yes! Well said.

scotchieguy| 1.20.12 @ 11:08AM

Newt is the only one with the balls to frame the real issue--this is not about Obama per se, rather it is about the dem hacks posing as responsible, impartial journalists protecting their lil messiah boy due to their obvious white guilt. Obama is gonna win this by hook or crook. There aren't enough garbage trucks in the world to handle the trash Axelrod and Co. will dish out to whomever is lucky enough to win the nomination. At least Newt won't go down without a fight. He is right on one thing. Yes he cheated, but he is a repub so he will catch hell for it. Clinton not only got away with it, his actions reminded the hacks in the MSM that this guy was sort of like their little hero JFK. A double standard w the MSM? Naw!!!

Bob Grant| 1.20.12 @ 12:04PM

You are correct.

I think dead people will put him over the top.

Caroline| 1.21.12 @ 12:28AM

I wish there was a "Like" button for this comment. "I think dead people will put him over the top." Now that's funny!

Purp| 1.20.12 @ 1:18PM

No, it's about ratings which equates to money. Follow the money and you will know what drives the things that drives you crazy.

Purp| 1.20.12 @ 11:58AM

You hate everyone in authority over you, don't you? Of course, all accusers are called liars at first. How else can a sleaze defend himself, whether Clinton or Gingrich.
You need to calm down and chill. You're rantings and ravings may be amusing, but they border on psychotic. You might need some help with your deep seated hatreds and conspiracy theories. Wow.

Bob Grant| 1.20.12 @ 12:09PM

Methinks this is the first time in your life you respect the Presidency of the United States.

Like our beloved first lady, this is the first time in your adult life that you are proud of your country.

Isn't it? Be honest.

Purp| 1.20.12 @ 1:03PM

What are you talking about ... I was answering Tim's rantings.

Conserdude| 1.20.12 @ 6:43AM

Newts behavior in his second marriage should not be off limits since he carried on with a House staffer during impeachment proceedings. It was reckless and risky in the extreme and would have destroyed the GOP majority were it discovered at the time. This alone reveals the kind of man Newt is and disqualifies him for president

Nancy in NC| 1.20.12 @ 7:10AM

I'm sure you said it twice accidentally, but it's worth noting twice. Newt's hypocrisy is beyond the pale. But it is fun to see him take it to the mainstream media, but I'm sure they will pay him back in spades.

Even though Newt has emphatically said he's changed, it wasn't long ago that he sat with Pelosi and even less time he was attacking Paul Ryan.

I fail to understand how anyone could believe Newt is a small government individual. He has spent much of his life involved with or around government.

The fundamental problem is electability. Many young voters will find Newt too old and too dour for their standards.

All these candidates have a fair amount of baggage and none will appeal to the left wing media. We have a long, bitter road to November; I just pray it won't end on the road to serfdom.

Patrick| 1.20.12 @ 9:07AM

Actually, it's a highway to serfdom. Yeah, the one "shovel-ready" project that Obama actually can take credit for.

JKS| 1.20.12 @ 9:10AM

Not make excuses for Newt, but Clinton wasn't impeached for having an affair with Monica. He was impeached for lying to congress. It doesn't excuse the behavior of either, but the reason for impeachment needs to be remembered.

Drunken Sailor| 1.20.12 @ 9:45AM

Bingo!!!

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 10:18AM

JKS, don't forget to add he was also disbarred for lying under oath.

W| 1.20.12 @ 11:49AM

He also paid a $200,000 fine to the federal district court, and Hillary grounded him for the weekend which really hurt.

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 12:02PM

W, the utlimate crime though is this. Monica Lewinsky's life is in ruins. She has become a recluse and, from the accounts I've seen, is rarely seen in public nor involved in any relationship. Bill and Hillary, though, party on while enjoying the accolades of their adoring sycophants. That girl made a tragic mistake at a very young age (something most of us, if we don't live in a cave, have done) for which she is paying a terrible, terrible personal price. Slick Willy, on the other hand, was a grown man, President of the United States and damn sure knew better. If anyone needs further proof of the absolute moral bankruptcy of the Democratic Party and the left, they need look no further than the contrast in the current state of affairs of Ms. Lewinsky and the Man from Hope. The left is completely and utterly devoid of humanity.

W| 1.20.12 @ 12:45PM

KJ,
We make fun of Bubba, but he and Hillary have made millions writing their books and selling pardons.

But you are absolutely correct that they leave a trail of victims like Lewinsky, Broadarick,Wiley, and others.

The MSM is feasting on Newt's two marriages and Mitt's income, yet ignore the entire phoney political Hillary/Bubba "marriage," and ignore the contributions made to Bill's "library" by the people who received pardons.

Mitt is criticized for earning money, but Bill and Hillary made millions writing books about their public "service."

Hillary did get some payback when during the 2008 primaries the MSM supported Obama instead of her, and Bubba was attacked as a racist.

I did not know what happened to Monica.

Mike McLaren| 1.20.12 @ 7:45AM

This election has to be about Obama, and as Santorum said last night, if Newt is the nominee, the election becomes about him. He's just too much of a loose canon.

Tommy Frisco| 1.20.12 @ 8:27AM

The 2008 election was about Obama instead of being about John McCain. How'd that work out, for ya?

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 10:26AM

This time is a different situation. Nobody (except for a few who dared to look into his past) knew who Obamarx was. They were all too busy, apparently as you were, to get down on their knees before the great one and worship (at least I think that's what you all were doing since we could only see the backs of your heads) this messiah, this one you've been waiting for. Not this time. The thinking public, at least what's left of it, has seen this charlatan for what he is: vapid, vacuous, dishonest, narcissistic, and totally out of his depth. You lemmings elected a clown of the first order who promptly went about trying to turn the country into a circus for his own entertainment. The curtain is about to come down on this show, Frisco, and there won't be a call for an encore.

Tommy Frisco| 1.20.12 @ 11:25AM

KennesawJack, I am anything but an Obama supporter. I am in the tank for Newt Gingrich.

I replied to Mike who is parroting what Karl Rove has said repeatedly about how we're better off nominating a mediocre candidate like Mitt Romney. He's 'afraid' the focus in the general election would be on Newt rather than on defeating Obama. I say that's total bullsh*t! Mediocrity does not win elections! We need a candidate that can articulate a strong conservative message that will inspire a nation to stand up against the Destroyer-In-Chief that we have now.

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 11:37AM

In that case, please accept my apologies. I, too, relish the thought of President Gingrich.

Tommy Frisco| 1.20.12 @ 12:06PM

Apologies accepted, KennesawJack. My reply to Mike was rather short. In reading it, I can see how you might have been confused.

I'm glad you agree that we need a candidate who can inspire the first standing ovation Frank Luntz has ever seen from a debate audience. I sincerely think he can inspire our entire nation with a strong, articulate, and persuasive argument for conservatism.

Kade| 1.20.12 @ 1:02PM

Tommy
Newt doubled down on amnesty. Though I will reluctantly vote for him if nominated this is his Achilles heel.

Rush and company need to push Newt to the right on this issue, but I doubt that they will and this pundit covering up for Republicans veering left is a major problem.

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 1:26PM

English as the official language and denial of citizenship gets him over the top on this issue.

Tommy Frisco| 1.20.12 @ 2:28PM

Kade, I must admit that Newt's "amnesty" plan is interesting. He says any illegal that can prove they've been here for 25 years, or more, may be able to go to a local review board and seek some type of residency status. Think about it, 25 years takes us back to 1987. The Immigration Act of 1986 gave amnesty to nearly all of the illegals here at the time...up through 1986! So, just how many illegals will be able to prove they came here in 1987 and have been here ever since? Ten? Fifty?

How has everyone been missing this?

Kade| 1.20.12 @ 2:48PM

Tommy,
By 25 years Newt really means 15 or 10 or maybe 5 and in some cases 2.

Newt also said last night he wants a guest worker program -- yeah, right -- just what the USA needs.

rnd| 1.20.12 @ 7:54AM

Where is the article on why Texas Governor Rick Perry dropped out?

Where is the article decrying these cowards that ask us to listen to them for 6 - 9 months of campaigning and then they run "yellow" (yes run away) when we actually get to the voting?

And...only a few hundred thousands folks have actually voted for anything so far, the few folks in very tiny popoulation states of Iowa and New Hampshire. Even the turnout on Saturday in South Carolina will not be that large.

What are candidates afraid of?

Their egos are so frail? (Can't finish third or fourth?)

States are different. The people that live in them do have varying degrees of mindsets and priorities in life.

My prescription for Rick Perry would have been: See how it goes in Western and very southern states before making a decision. And that would be the same advice to all of them.

By the time we get to Super Tuesday (still over 45 days! away) there will only be two candidates left. And it won't really be because people are choosing them. It's just because they've decided to stick it out.

Rick Perry, Tim Pawlenty, Michelle Bachman and certainly Huntsman are ALL cowards. And I reserve even more scorn for Herman Cain.

Timothy L. Pennell| 1.20.12 @ 10:09AM

Maybe they just don't have as much money as you do?

These things cost money, ya know. You get single digits in a coupla Primaries, and it's time to move on. Only a FOOL would hang around. Only a FOOL would fail to see the writing on the wall.

I'm sure that these people - Perry, Bachmann, Huntsman, and Cain - feel they can do more to help get rid of the CREATURE, by using whatever influence they have, in to persuading their supporters to give their votes to the Candidate that they feel will do the best job.

It's like the saying goes: To stay in, with no chance? It's like "Beatin a Dead Horse".

rnd| 1.20.12 @ 11:17AM

We've only had 2 states do anything tangible toward determining who might be the GOP nominee. (Iowa was a caucus; fundamentally different than a 'primary.')

Statistically, less than 1% of the registered GOP voters in the nation have had a "crack" at a say-so.

After South Carolina on Saturday, approx. just 1.2% of the registered GOP voters will have had a 'say-so.' (if turnout is good)

Iowa was a caucus; NH the only primary to date -- in one of our tiniest states.

A candidate is either "in" or never should have announced. Just travelling about from September thru to Christmas doing whistle-stops and 4 minute cutesy Fox News TV interviews is not commitment.

It's flaky, weak and cowardly.

Pawlenty dropped out after a straw poll in one tiny county in Iowa in August. It's essetially bee the same for the others since. For the most whimsical of reasons, they are gone.

No wonder we have a jaded, disinterested electorate.

I erred above; there are six states whose primaries are in the month of JUNE.

As others have seen here, there will be no "field" of candidates by they time we get to your day to go cast a primary vote.

Mr. Pennell, that spells "S-H-A-M."

What kind of human scum do we have now who fail to "count the cost" before stepping forward for such a large undertaking? Three state governors just willy-nilly dropping out (Pawlenty, Hunstman, Perry) and a sitting Congressman (Bachmann).

A real candidate does not get flustered. A real candidate is cognizant of the great duration of the presidential primary process and the RESPONSIBILITY to present himself to the voters in most if not all of the states.

Zero character in those that are now no longer on the stage.

Is it really any different with the four that remain?

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 11:42AM

I think Pennell's main point remains. Money talks, all else walks. If Perry couldn't raise enough dough, why would he go deeper into debt?

rnd| 1.20.12 @ 12:28PM

So we have 4 full grown adults who have all held very high office in our land who exited in disgrace. I don't know where Minnesota and Utah rank in the world, but Mr. Perry kept reminding us that Texas is the world's 13th largest economy.

Sounds like the governor of a state like Texas ought to be real good at mathematics, economic calculations, and fiscal projections.

Handling same for a campaign ought not to be that much of a steep learning curve.

Why do so many of you want to so easily give a pass to complete incompetents who never should have tossed their hats into this ring?

If candidates need to save a little of their campaign funds, what would be wrong with staying every few nights in peoples' homes? A candidate needs to do the 5-star exclusive hotels? There would be plenty of well-wishers eager to just help out (not necessarily fans, contributors, or those committed to a candidate)

Despite my comments above, if I knew of their needs, I'd open my home to any of them for a week while here in my state on this primary road.

Might do the candiate(s) some good. Nothing recharges a good person's batteries more than being around other good people -- and away from vermin media, pundits, polling stooges, full-time campaign wonks.

A campaign in today's internet world does not need to burn through $45,000 per day.

And who says you have to be actually in the state during its final 3 days or 24 hours? Use the internet to talk to volunteers, supporters, and those who wish to ask you questions.

One just has to be on the ballot, not in a physical locale.

The point:

Lack of money is NOT the reason these "chumps" dumped on us. Got it?

It is something (missing) deeper in person's soul.

Teaghan| 1.20.12 @ 8:18AM

I don't give a rats behind about how Newt did his wife. I want someone who can beat the usurper in our White House. Newt cheated on his wife while trying to get Clinton out of office. Maybe he wanted him out of off not because Bill got a hummer in the oval office but because the president LIED to a grand jury and denied Paula Jones her day in court. It wasn't all about the sex, it was that he LIED to the grand jury AND to the American people! How soon we forget the truth. Newt will take obama apart in a debate and the left knows it. That's why they want that obama-lite Romney to be our nominee. They are ready to dismember him over his Bain Cap. job of "destroying" and "mutilating" towns while
"bankrupting" companies. Has anyone brought up the fact that this is exactly what Warrne Buffet does? I hate the liberal press and they will be the reason we loose this election.

Patrick| 1.20.12 @ 9:09AM

Or maybe Newt is all about Newt. Nothing matters but Newt, and he's willing to use anyone, even the taxpayer to stroke his ego.

canuckistani| 1.20.12 @ 9:58AM

Warren Buffet ain't running for President, Willard is and so is Newtie.

When the GOP puts up "character" and "family values" as their rallying cries, the rest of electorate sits back and says "Huh"?
It is revealing when the best the GOP has to offer is a porcine philanderer and a faux conservative record-modifier

W| 1.20.12 @ 11:51AM

Cannuck,
You are wrong, neither Bubba or Algore are running on the GOP ticket.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 11:57AM

Well played!

Dems aren't just as bad? Bubba assaulted Kathleen Willey, for G*d's sake. And he used Monica Lewinski as a humidor.

W| 1.20.12 @ 12:49PM

Compared to TeddyK, Bubba was a class act. At least he did not drive near a lake with anyone

canuckistani| 1.20.12 @ 12:57PM

Then drop the family values baiting call from the GOP platform. It's bogus and the more you hear about Newtie the worse it gets.
How anybody with a strong moral spine can conjure support for this guy astounds me. Shame on Perry and that cabal of Jesus freaks who met last week.

W| 1.20.12 @ 1:28PM

Canuck
what do you mean be family values? be specifi

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 1:52PM

I was pissed he didn't toss his support to Santorum.

W:

You're right about Ted "I Hope You Can Swim Mary Jo*" Kennedy. Not only was there that, but also his crusade to defund South Vietnam & his associations with the KGB in attempts to sink Reagan's SDI:

http://www.americanthinker.com.....edy_i.html

http://www.americanthinker.com.....arter.html

*Mary Jo Kopechne could not be reached for comment on this post.

Kade| 1.20.12 @ 1:10PM

Teaghan
Rush should have stayed quiet about Bain instead of misrepresenting Newt’s justifiable criticism. Rush was covering up and promoting Romney but he hurt him by giving the Left ammunition to destroy Mitt in the general.

rnd| 1.20.12 @ 8:27AM

Election 2012: We are being served up a very poorly choreographed fraud.

There never were candidates and this never was a "race" or contest.

Doubt this? Just go back four years in time -- yes, it is a mental strain to do so -- and remember the why and how of the feeble reasons given as candidates dropped out one by one, just leaving us with McCain with Hucklebee.

(Mitt Romney's dropping out in 2008 against the likes of John McCain ought to tell anyone ALL they need to know about Romney's character.)

Above I forgot to mention that guy from New Mexico, their former governor. I mean, where was he as a candidate for all those months leading up to December? (Wasn't he actually only just once on stage with the others for one of these televised debates? Just once!!)

This is all a sham.

Sure, they have money concerns. Who doesn't have money concerns. But you can do a lot of "freeloading" as a candidate. So many groups want a "candidate" to come talk 3 - 5 days prior to a primary, they'll wine and dine you. (These think tanks or business groups or group of academics, etc. need someone in the race to come speak, they're practically rolling out the red carpets)

We've been given a sham. Better said, a 'campaign hoax.'

Two days prior to only the second primary -- but still in a very small state -- and we have nobody left standing.

Proof that this is all a sham? Where are the scathing, probing, hard questions to people like Pawlenty, Bachman, Huntsman, and (don't hold your breath waiting for it) Perry asking questions like: Exactly why are/did you drop out before we even got to Nevada? Are you unaware of how many states there are and that this primary process goes to May on the calendar? Are you unaware that Mitt Romney is supposed to win in NH? But that most states are far, far different than the few GOP types you find in NH?

Where are these "revealing" interviews? All of them are allowed to exit stage left with nary a word to people who were trying to get to know them, read their policies, read what they've written in the past, read through what they posted on their web sites, etc.

So my conclusion is to remember/reflect on: The difference between you as an American and the Russian voter in Moscow is....

oh, er, there really are no differences.

Just as there are no choices.

Naql| 1.20.12 @ 9:51AM

Not true. That Governor from New Mexico, the one who cut taxes, balanced his state's budget, and left a surplus, the one who vetoed more spending bills than all other 49 governors combined?

Gary Johnson. He will be the Libertarian nominee, so you do have a choice: to stop voting fo the esser of two evils. Vote Libertarian.

I mean really, such an important election and the best they can do is... Newt Gingrich???

Timothy L. Pennell| 1.20.12 @ 10:13AM

O.K. Let's play another Game. Name all of the things that are WRONG with Naql's philosophy, as seen, in his Comment.

Ready?

GO!

naql| 1.20.12 @ 2:46PM

*chirp chirp chirp*

rhortus| 1.20.12 @ 6:53PM

Bob Kerry was in Tucson raising money the days before he dropped out. It's all about the M O N E Y !

bill| 1.20.12 @ 9:13AM

Newt Gingrich showed his charisma, wisdom, conviction, statesmanhip, and leadership in the CNN debate. He handled really well question regarding his ex-wife. he had a clear vision on immigration, the fedral bureaucracy, and fixing the economy. He was energetic and joyous throughout the debate.
Mitt Romney was robotic, as usual, and sounded scripted when he talked. he needs to fin the best answear for the Bain capital and his tax. He showed team spirit when he was asked about Newt's marriage, and refused to get involved.
Santorum looked angry and confusing. His argument over RomneyCare was good, but lost his momentum when he was asked about why he voted against "Right-to-Work" law and voted for the Medicare prescription drug, his reponses were inadequate and frankly, illogical.
Ron Paul was given a lot of time last night. He cannot win in SC, nor the GOP nominee.
Giving that Newt's debate performance and his recent surge in the polls,
the SC primry results:
Winner: Newt Gingrich
2nd: Mitt Romney
3rd: Santorum
4th: Ron Paul
After the SC victory, Newt will win in FL, as well, and that will trigger exodus form the race: santorum and Ron Paul will end their campaigns.

canuckistani| 1.20.12 @ 10:03AM

What happened to Perry, Bill?

rhortus| 1.20.12 @ 6:53PM

He chickend out.

Vern Crisler| 1.20.12 @ 10:30AM

I thought Newt did pretty well last night, though his angry response to the first question made me a little nervous. Were we going to have the political equivalent of Championship Wrestling? Thankfully, Newt got over his anger and proceeded to calmly articulate conservative positions very well.

Romney was of course boring, but had a couple of good moments, primarily when he was defending capitalism. Santorum just annoys me; he has no governing or leadership experience, and comes across as a lightweight taking potshots at his betters.

Ron Paul says some good things about economics, but he has a hard time articulating his views without wandering, and his leftist foreign policy views rule him out as a viable Republican candidate. He is just a spoiler at this point.

I didn't think there was a clear winner but I thought Santorum and Paul were the clear losers last night.

DRed| 1.20.12 @ 10:35AM

He wasn't really angry. That question was a softball and he hit it out of the park. Newt was dying for that question.

Vern Crisler| 1.20.12 @ 10:47AM

On Greta, after the debate, he said the question made him angry.

canuckistani| 1.20.12 @ 10:57AM

Who's park did he hit it out of?

His old saw was "if you can't pound the facts, pound the table". That table has been pounded relentlessly by he and his cabal for weeks now.

SC is a classic hypocrite real umerican state, and their standing ovations and whooping lays bare their historic inconsistency between rhetoric and fact. i.e they have been net beneficiaries of the big G since losing the WofNA, and yet they cling to "conservatives" like they were kinfolk.

I am curious if Newtie had preferred to walk the Appalachian trail the applause wouild have been greater.

If Santorum is wise, he should have his proxies continue the whisper campaign against him. Newtie will be a disaster if permitted to continue with this righteous indignation schtick, and his bogus resentment of the MSM is tiresome. He has been a willing consumer of free MSM attention since he got into this thing. EVERY major debate has been hosted-moderated-sponsored by a MSM outlet and not once has a viable candidate declined an invite.

DRed| 1.20.12 @ 11:04AM

The audience loved it. I'm sure most of the readers of this magazine loved it. It plays perfectly to the aggrieved victim hood that a lot of conservatives feel. Poor, poor Newt being bullied by that mean lame stream media member. Never mind that Newt could have avoided the question by, you know, not cheating on his wife for six years. And never mind that he's spent most of his public career loudly attacking his opponents moral failings. And never mind that the question he was asked was 'would you care to comment', which is a total softball. If CNN had a real moderator he would have grilled Newt on his real failing-not cheating on his wife, but for being such a titanic hypocrite. Instead, he let Newt play the indignant victim, which he did perfectly. That question was the best thing that's happened to Newt in the past month.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 11:36AM

Were Clinton's "moral failings" as objectionable to you as Newt's?

George S| 1.20.12 @ 11:42AM

To be fair, at least Obama was never asked to comment on what he thought of his best friend's wife trying to murder a 9-year old boy with a bomb....

DRed| 1.20.12 @ 11:55AM

Clinton was a lying dirtbag who happened to also be a very effective president, so perhaps there's hope for Newt. I imagine the list of president who have cheated on their spouse is longer than the list of those who remained faithful. We are, after all, talking about politicians. I find Newt's infidelity a lot less objectionable than his pompous hypocrisy. If you cheat on your wives repeatedly, that's between you and them. I'm sure his 2nd and 3rd wives, at least, knew what they were getting into. But don't lumber up on stage and lecture me about morality while you're nailing some aid behind your wife's back. And don't feign outrage when you're called out on it.

Vern Crisler| 1.20.12 @ 12:57PM

When did Newt lecture anyone about morality?

RCV| 1.21.12 @ 6:52PM

LOL! So now Ayers is Obama's "best friend"? You guys get more divorced from reality every day.

W| 1.20.12 @ 11:55AM

I thought the official Democrat position is that the person's sex life is a private matter not relevant to choosing a president.

Al Adab| 1.20.12 @ 3:59PM

Only for Democrats, W. Republicans are held to a higher standard.

Drunken Sailor| 1.20.12 @ 4:59PM

Correction Al. Republicans are held to "A" standard. Enjoy your weekend my friend.

Al Adab| 1.20.12 @ 5:31PM

DS:
I shall, enjoy yours. I'll tip a dram to you.

rhortus| 1.20.12 @ 7:44PM

Newt may be a sleazebag but he's our sleazebag.

gearjammer| 1.20.12 @ 9:17AM

Let me get this right, Newt wants forgiveness, which in his inflated ego means making him president and his lacquered, cosmetically decorated, bejeweled, costumed in ultra finery, home wrecking Jezebel first lady. Drop dead. Although, many family values and the conservative way is just a crock. The man all those high mucky muck people of God as they met in Texas chose the oh so holy and virtuous Rick Perry seems more than happy than to endorse the adulterer and his homewrecking hussey. Frauds. Morality my ass-frauds.

bill| 1.20.12 @ 9:31AM

SC Primary Result:
Winner: Gingrich
2nd:Romney
3rd: Santorum
4th:Paul
Newt won the two SC debates because he showed that he has the courage, conviction, charisma, statesmanship, and solutions to take on Obama and the Dems.
Romney was robotic, as usual.
Santorum was confusing and angry.
Ron Paul sounded like he was the only person in the stage who read the Constitution.

canuckistani| 1.20.12 @ 10:05AM

What happened to Perry, Bill?
Why should you be in a position to predict anything at this point?

martin j smith| 1.20.12 @ 9:46AM

This is how I am now looking at comments; The users I know are generally consistent as to their position . The ones I don't know and sound like Paul,Obama or Romney==well you get the picture.Examples--rnd,gearjammer,consedude-I have never seen these ones at least not regularly

canuckistani| 1.20.12 @ 10:11AM

You have to admit the stunned silence by Perry supporters just one day after he capitualted and recognized the inevitable - about two weeks too late, however - is amusing.
The fact that the Ministers coalition was split evenly between Newtie and Rick is also revealing of being stuck between two unsavory choices - a philanderer who is indeed a professional politician and a boy scout ex senator who has flashes of prosecutorial ability but more apt to retreat to rhetorical traps of his own making.

Perry chose the philandering pro.

Mark Jeffery Koch| 1.20.12 @ 10:11AM

Beyond Ron Paul's constant assertions in all of the debates that America should not be getting involved in wars overseas and nation building, which gets great applause and which most Americans agree with, his diehard supporters conveniently continue to ignore his mantra of no government at all, which is not the same as the conservative position of getting the government less involved in our lives. There's a huge difference between the conservatism of William F. Buckley and most of the Republican Party and the libertarianism of Ron Paul. Less government versus no government is something that cannot be laughed off.

Ron Paul is against the existence of FEMA. Thus, if a tornado, hurricane, or earthquake strikes your city or town and devastates it you're on your own. Ron Paul wants a zero income tax. That's great. How are our nation's highways, roads, and bridges going to be maintained? Ron Paul does not believe in Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid. He has a belief in the 19th century that local communities and churches and neighbors should take care of the elderly, infirmed, and poor, but this is not the year 1812. Millions of Americans who worked hard and played by the rules are entitled to the benefits they receive from Social Security and Medicare. No Americans are getting rich off of their monthly Social Security checks, nor does Medicare cover every procedure. He is against all taxes, period. How are we going to pay our teachers, our policemen, our firemen, our sanitation workers, and millions of others? Ron Paul's solution is for home schooling or for local towns to have their own system for hiring workers. You cannot have a government with zero taxes. Vital services (and there are many that government workers provide) cost money and taxes pay for those services.

Ron Paul wants to get rid of all Federal agencies and departments and wants more than anything to abolish the Federal Reserve whom he blames for the current recession we are clawing our way out of. This is lunacy and everyone knows that the economic downturn in 2008 was caused by avaricious predators in the Banking and Brokerage industries, many of whom received government bailouts, instead of the handcuffs and leg irons they deserved. The Dodd Frank bill, which is not very strong, still attempts to prevent a return to the conditions they caused everything to nearly capsize in 2008 but yet every single Republican candidate for President promises to veto the mild protection that was enacted that was designed to prevent the Wall Street vultures from raping the country again.

The Republicans want zero regulations. It does not matter to them that laws protecting the toys our kids play with, the foods we eat, the medicines we take, and the products we use be safe. The Republicans, to a man, want corporations totally unfettered to make profits any way they can, and public safety be damned.

The four remaining candidates feature Santorum, who wants a return to 1950's morality and who lost his re-election for Senator by almost twenty points, Gingrich, who likes to tell how others how to lead their lives and criticize their moral character, while he cheated on his first two wives and divorced them when they became ill, Paul, whose libertarian views are about three hundred years too late, who had his name on a newsletter that spewed forth vile anti semitism and racism for ten years, and who openly is against the existence of the State of Israel, and Romney, who changes his position on major issues depending on which group he is speaking with at the time, and who seems to find making his income tax returns public equivalent to going to the dentist and having his teeth pulled.

It amazes me how any American can stand up and applaud these men. Are they the best the Republican Party has to offer? If so, they deserve to lose handily in November.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 11:14AM

I see the DNC talking points have been distributed for the day. Yeah, the subprime mess didn't have ANYTHING to do with the government threatening, with Justice Department action, banks who DIDN'T make loans to "underprivilaged" people who had no business buying a house in the first place.

Here' a clue for you on how NORMAL people go about buying a house. My wife & I were going to buy a house this summer. We were approved for a modest mortgage, in keeping with the fact that this was to be our first house. We were all set to close the deal until the inspection, when problems arose that added up to a whole CRAPLOAD of money. Guess what we did? WE DIDN'T BUY IT! HOW FREAKING HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND?

Spare us the insipid & nonsensical sob story about "predatory banks. Its called "personal responsibility" & living within one's means. The banks didn't stick a gun to people's head & say "sign this mortgage contract." The GOVERNMENT DID do the figurative equivalent thing to the banks, though. "Make these mortgages happen, OR ELSE..."

Go pitch this fart in a gale over at the Daily Krap or the Flushington Post where people buy this type of crap.

DRed| 1.20.12 @ 11:23AM

Most of the subprime loans were made by institutions that weren't subject to the laws that you think forced the banks to make loans. How hard is that to understand? Apparently, it's quite difficult.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 11:34AM

Irrelevant. The fact remains is that no one stuck a gun to those people's heads to take on those mortgages. If people are too stupid to figure out their household finances, then that's not my problem. But it BECAME my problem.

DRed| 1.20.12 @ 12:10PM

If you're blaming the government for forcing institutions to make loans, I'd say it was relevant that they weren't actually forced by the government to make loans.

And Con, in general, our money went to bail out the financial system, not the people who borrowed money irresponsibly.

George S| 1.20.12 @ 12:05PM

What's hard to understand is why did they wait until the late 1990's to make these loans absent of any laws. And what's even more hard to understand is who the hell would loan money with the knowledge that the loan will not be paid back? But I'm just nitpicking.

DRed| 1.20.12 @ 12:14PM

Who would lend money to people who they knew couldn't pay them back? That's a great question, George. Someone who knew that they could sell the loan to somebody else. And who would buy a loan that crappy? Someone who knew they could package it into a complex financial instrument, con a ratings agency into rating it AAA and then sell it to some sucker at a pension fund. (that's oversimplified, but that's the gist of it)

DevilDog| 1.20.12 @ 12:31PM

Most of the subprime loans were made by institutions that weren't subject to the laws

i want to know which banks arent subject to laws. i want to invest in them

DRed| 1.20.12 @ 3:18PM

The CRA applied to banks and lending institutions that were governed by the FDIC. Commercial lending institutions that didn't accept deposits from the public were not covered by the CRA. So a company like Ameriquest was under no federal pressure to lend money to anyone in particular.

George S| 1.20.12 @ 12:10PM

The straw men on parade... no one is advocating zero government or zero regulations (if we did we would have never written a Constitution in the first place).

Let me ask you: should regulations exist to help people or should people exist to glorify regulations?

William R| 1.20.12 @ 5:06PM

If we had a zero income taxes revenue would still equal Clinton's last year in office. We have all sorts of other revenue streams. And Ron Paul is not an anarchist. He doesn't want to do away with all government. Just chop it down to its constitutional size.

sirbourbon| 1.20.12 @ 10:18AM

No one on that stage knows Newt Gingirch better on a personal one on one personal level than Marianne Gingrich. She says that Newt is not fit due to his charater flaws to be president.
No one knows the real Newt than the person that takes the time to do the research on Newt's voting record.

Marianne has not researched her former husband's voting record in congress, however, she has witnessed first hand his lack of character regarding the marriage contract. It is that contract that Christians for centuries have agreed is a contract between a man and a woman and God.There is no proviso in that contract for "open marriage."

That God forgives man is not the issue, the issue is the character of the person asking for your vote when his record in the character department is so lacking.

Yet as bad as his personal life has been with his first two wives it is his voting record that we learn the kind of man he really is- the Real Newt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

Supported TARP, Scozzafava, single payer while out of office, and The Toffler New Wave of killing the US Cnstitution.

In office he voted for increasing the budget of the Departments of Education,Energy, EPA, foreign aid and loves The New Wave of the Tofflers, his friends for which he authored a forward article to one of the Toffler books. Since the Council on Foreign Relations promotes the UN and sovereignty diminishing treaties like NAFTA,Newt is right there as a CFR member.

His voting record in divorcing America the Beautiful in favor of a North American "Free" Trade Agreement and the General Agreement of Tarriffs and Trade.On GATT Newt said that GATT wasn't just a trade deal but was "transformational," and would shift sovereignty away from America to a world trade association. That association is outside the USA in Europe where internationalists siting in a room in Europe deciding US trade policy. That Mr.Speaker, is what is "dispicable" -Your record!

Newt wants to put life and death decisions for America in the hands of GATTsters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

sirbourbon| 1.20.12 @ 10:30AM

First off you cropped out the leading debater out of your picture - Ron Paul is in the running but you continue to pretend he isn't.

canuckistani| 1.20.12 @ 11:02AM

---so does Paul.

he's a one-noter who has not evolved as a candidate.

sirbourbon| 1.20.12 @ 11:02PM

"One noter?" Like Huntsman? Or Perry? No wait the "One noter" was Michelle what's her name. No,that would be the "hermanator" who is doing a mini-comeback hat trick with COLBERT....
Remembver the 1/8 beat note of Palenty? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA that was a joke! Remember there Canadaman when Paw-paw plenty tried to be clever by calling the Mass- ass -a -chusetts health plan "ObamneyCare." he stopped calling it that onced he hit the debating stage and fouled his pants.

The Spectator still left out Ron Paul. Why I can't figure out unless they hate him? That doesn't sound very Christ like behavior of you either.

Edgar| 1.20.12 @ 10:37AM

All right. I'm not one of the "in-crowd" here. Why the Spectator columnists hate Gingrich is not clear to me. Maybe he was not nice to one of years ago. I've been reading the not so subtle anti-Gingrich stories for months now. But let's wake up. Against impossible odds, including his baggage--which is no worse than the other candidates--Gingrich has made himself the articulate voice of conservative America in this race. And you still try to reduce him and help the Democrat media get us another McCain-clone loser called Mitt Romney!

This debate marks a turning point. A Republican has effectively declared that you can't negotiate with people whose life-goal is to kill you. There is no turning back. Republicans are to the media as Israel is to Iran. It was not always so; once compromise could be found, once the media had a lovely habit of destroying their own (remember what happened to Carter?) No more. There is no limit to what Big Media will do to destroy the viable Republican candidate and censor any negatives for Obama. None.

That the Spectator continues some old vendetta against Gingrich (the most effective and electable of the lot, whatever one thinks of that lot) is a disgrace to conservative thought. The Spectator has long revelled in being more conservative and more contrarian than most conservative journals. There is a point, however, where the contrarianism has begun to seriously erode your claim to conserving American values. Please cease.

canuckistani| 1.20.12 @ 11:08AM

they hold a vendetta against Newtie because they actually worked and served with him during his so-called miracle tenure as speaker.

They say there is nothing quite like a scorned woman, but a scorned hack may be worse because they can check their emotions at the door and use criticism effectively to dismantle the apparati around a damaged candidate like Newtie.

The hacks both in office and out know viscerally that a Newtie administration would be a disaster.

We always test candidates to match their mouths with their records.

Newtie's record - personally, politically and professionally is littered with questionable conduct, incomplete projects and a wake of former supporters astonished by his egotism and spectacular absence of ethics when a bag o' cash is placed before him.

How you can sit and write about a Newtie that has never existed - and never will, saddens me.

doug| 1.20.12 @ 11:41AM

have never posted here, but well said, and basically gibes with the great Pennell, which is essentially: Begone Thing!

Redstateboy| 1.20.12 @ 10:44AM

Newt changed my mind and I can support him..
"let the one who is with-out sin cast the first stone." His was a mighty response to that swine John King's question. King looked like a complete fool after Newt was done with him and I think King's smuggness got knocked right off his face. We need someone who will stand up to the greatest threat to our country.. the Leftist Lame Stream media. They're covering for their Socialist Messiah to such a pathetic degree that with a Newt Presidency.. some will lose their WH press creditials.

Bob Grant| 1.20.12 @ 10:59AM

Santorum was spot on when he cautioned that Newt is a ticking time bomb (a loose cannon) who could torpedo a chance a beating Obama.

Who knows what's around the corner with him?

As the Great Donald Rumsfeld put it:

[T]here are known knowns; there are things we know we know.
We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know.

--------- this should apply to Gingrich!

canuckistani| 1.20.12 @ 11:18AM

Exactly.

Judge him on his record and not his mouth. Personally - professionally - and politically he is lacking.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 11:32AM

Hear, hear!

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 11:31AM

I'm of the mind that Newt might very well flame out. And, G*d willing, Santorum will be able to pick up the slack when he does. Why Perry threw his support behind Newt, I'll never know.

I still remain an "anyone but Obama voter," however, I'm in Santorum's corner all the way in this primary. His ability to win in union heavy PA as an unabashed conservative speaks volumes. And for those who point to his loss, I would point out that his loss came during an election cycle where a whole boatload of OTHER Repubs got booted. If he were to run for Congress or Senate in PA today, he'd win in a heartbeat. This state can't WAIT to replace Little Bobby Casey Jr. & just elected the uber conservative Pat Toomey to the Senate.

Santorum supported ExSpecterate because of his clout on the Senate Judiciary Committee at the time. Like him or not, it was ExSpecterate who's thumbs up or thumbs down of a nominee were what the more reasonable (this being a relative term) Dems would go on as to whether or not to confirm a nominee. After all, it was after the whole Justice Thomas confirmation circus that ExSpecterate gave his thumbs up for Thomas, thereby gaining enough crossover votes to get Thomas confirmed.

At the time Santorum stumped for him, Bush was trying to get Alito & Roberts confirmed. If Santorum HADN'T supported ExSpecterate, I think we all know that vindictive old cuss would've taken his anger out on his party as a whole & not given his endorsements of those men.

If you like those two men on the court, you should thank Santorum for doing HIS part to ensure their confirmation.

George Collins| 1.20.12 @ 11:38AM

I wasn't aware that Newt Gingrich had been married to Mick Jagger.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 11:54AM

snicker!

Bob Grant| 1.20.12 @ 12:01PM

I'm confused. Which was the Jaquar and which was the Chevrolet?

martin j smith| 1.20.12 @ 11:58AM

And what Bob Grant do we know about Romney-politically speaking and otherwise. He has not yet been smeard yet but whoever is the nominee will be you bet. I really have the sense that those who believe Romney is the one either:
a)have their head in the sand-=he is very vulnerable
b)back Obama
c)Really do not care about winning
d)Are happy to defeat Conservatives even if it means losing the election
e)Give up before they even start
f) all of the above

Bob Grant| 1.20.12 @ 12:19PM

I wouldn't say Ambassador Bolton, Ann Coulter, Nicky Haley, and others are unsympathetic to the conservative cause.

True, many RINO's and elites are backing him but many ACTUAL conservatives are as well.

I would bet dollars to donuts the overarching reason is he is considered the one viewed as the most electable.

They are literally frightened by a second obama term and do not want any "surprises" from their nominee.

In addition, they see Newt's insurmountable problem:

The Female Vote Deficit!

rhortus| 1.20.12 @ 12:34PM

George W Bush was "electable" and he was a disaster. W is LBJ with a human face.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 2:02PM

Its "El BJ." C'mon, man!

:-)

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 2:06PM

Coulter has sold out. I'm also a regular at Townhall where they carry her columns every week. Judging by the dramatic decrease in the number of comments on her articles & Facebook "likes," I'd say that a lot of conservatives think she "sold out." I wouldn't call her a "sellout," but I sure as hell don't go out of my way to read her pieces on TH anymore.

Con Chef (NB) | 1.20.12 @ 2:07PM

CORRECTION:

The above should have started:

"Many conservatives think that Coulter has sold out."

Al Adab| 1.20.12 @ 3:56PM

NB:
To become Mitts' press secretary? What cabinet post was Niki Haley offered? Serious here. Does everyone really have their price? Apparently so.

RCV| 1.20.12 @ 10:22PM

Maybe she just honestly believes that Romney has the best chance to defeat Obama (as the polls seem to indicate), and that's her priority. Not entirely irrational. There's a very good chance that Gingrich could be so offensive as a candidate as to bring down a lot of other Republicans with him.

rhortus| 1.20.12 @ 12:11PM

1. Romney
2. Paul
3.Santorum
4. Gingrich
Gingrich is toast- audios Newt

Bob Grant| 1.20.12 @ 3:14PM

Look it Rigor Mortus,

You need to drop Paul to 4. No way he beats the other 3!

rhortus| 1.20.12 @ 6:56PM

Paul is the only one running on The Issues.

Mike Hawk| 1.20.12 @ 8:11PM

Yes, he has issues. Lots of issues.

Anthony| 1.22.12 @ 9:52AM

1. Wrong
2. Wrong
3. Wrong
4. Wrong
I say you have a future as a CNN debate host, a la Sly King, or, you can replace Karl Rove and Clueless Juan on the FOX All-Star panel of losers.

JFGalt| 1.20.12 @ 12:21PM

Newt doesn't seem very different from John Edwards. Moral republicans should be distancing themselves from this 2 faced lothario.

rhortus| 1.20.12 @ 8:47PM

So will Monica stop servicing John Edwards and start servicing Newt?

martin j smith| 1.20.12 @ 12:54PM

Aside from whatever crap the Socialist loving MSM cook up one gigantic problem for Romney is Romney Care. Obama Care is a killer to our nation and with Romney defending his position I see serious problems saving our nation. Somebody better get to Romney and explain to him that his position of Romney Care is deadly for our nation.

martin j smith| 1.20.12 @ 1:02PM

If you give the Socialist media too much power when does their smearing ever end. That is the point of the problem. If you really believe that the Obama regime has no game plan for Romney should he be the nominee you are really --well figure the rest hy for example have they not yet blasted Romney--please explain that ?Many of us who are not supporters of Romney believe he is a loser. He has not convinced enough of us that he should be the nominee--You may believe so--I am waiting--still waiting. I do not support any particular candidate but I will say this Romney must show that he recognizes exactly who Obama and the Socialist regime represent,why they are a danger to this nation and run a campaign based on voters having a choice: Do you want Socialism or even worse Communism in this nation Yes or No--that is the choice and voters should be told the truth for a change.

Purp| 1.20.12 @ 1:06PM

The real choice is a successful yet kinder, gentler nation (Obama) or a rough, dog eat dog country of "everyone for himself" with enemies all around (Romney) and charity for none.

Al Adab| 1.20.12 @ 3:54PM

"Successful?" yet "kinder and gentler"? Where pray tell is the success or perhaps you meant sucubus?

Purp| 1.20.12 @ 9:46PM

Guess you don't read. Public Enemy # 1 has been killed - Osama Bin Laden. Iraq war has ended. Housing starts are highest level since April 2005! Unemployment is down to 2008 levels. Housing prices are starting to rise (per CEO of Chase). Auto industry has been saved, and GM is the # Car maker in the World!
Yeah, successful, as much as it's NOT what you want, it is happening and the Republican field is left with what issue? Guns, Gays and God again?

Indy| 1.20.12 @ 5:00PM

Mr. Class Warfare is kinder and gentler? Oh yes, I remember when he told me to punish my enemies...really nice. I find it amusing you use the terms kinder and gentler....that's Bush 41.

Purp| 1.20.12 @ 9:49PM

I said kinder, gentler nation. Obama will destroy any Republican candidate. The killer of pirates on the open sea, more Al Qaeda members than anyone, and Osama Bin Laden is NOT someone to tangle with. He hasn't even begun to show you what he can do when pushed. Just stay tuned. He can now lock anyone American citizen away without recourse.... not that he would ... i'm just saying watch your back.

Indy| 1.21.12 @ 12:18PM

Oh please, Obama killing the Somali pirates and OBL, yes he is the Commander In Chief but the credit goes to the Spec Op teams and all supporting personnel for those missions. Obama is not a fan of our military, he uses them as props. No mention in your post of the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood in the Middle East? The silence from Obama while Christians in Egypt are brutally killed speaks wonders, he failed to speak one word in favor of the students in Iran protesting in 2009 and many were brutally killed. Fast and Furious, the Administration willing allowed guns across the border to Mexico, Border Agent Terry was killed and hundreds of innocent Mexicans, drug cartel violence is happening in our country, the media fails to report it but it is happening. How does Obama defend Fast and Furious? His DOJ is taking the 5th?

"He hasn't even begun to show you what he can do when pushed. Just stay tuned. He can now lock anyone American citizen away without recourse.... not that he would ... i'm just saying watch your back."

That's a pretty frightening comment even coming from you.

Conservatives know, if Obama is re-elected, he will abuse his power even more, he has already demonstrated he will use Presidential Signing Statements, Executive Orders, Regulations, unconstitutional recess appointments (the Senate was in session, Reid used this same strategy to block Bush from making appointments) and the power to lock away American citizens without due process is something you cheerlead? Are you really ok with that? You are telling me to watch my back for simply opposing Obama's policies, what has happened to our country, how can you stand for this? What will it take for you to remove your blinders? Go ahead and turn me in, my family is already on the DHS list, we are veterans, we are for limited government and separation of powers in accordance with the Constitution so we stood up to excercise our First Amendment Rights and what does DHS do shortly after Obama took office, issued a report saying we might be considered a domestic threat, and those of you on the left? crickets...there is a link to the actual report so you can download the pdf.

I don't like any of the candidates running but I will vote for anyone but Obama.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009.....s-is-real/

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 1:27PM

Pardon my poor grammar. YOU'RE not your.

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 1:32PM

Everyone, Whoops! Please ignore the above post.

Vlady| 1.20.12 @ 2:10PM

http://online.wsj.com/article/.....LEFTSecond

There's an interesting piece over at the Wall Street Journal on our DR. Ron Paul....

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 2:40PM

Thanks for the link, Vlady, but I thought everyone already knew that was the end game.

David| 1.20.12 @ 2:40PM

I would love to watch Newt as the Press Secretary for the next admin. Can you imagine the laughs we would get when he makes those folks and their silly questions look like complete idiots?

KennesawJack| 1.20.12 @ 3:22PM

I('d prefer he be is own press secretary. As President, Newt could easily the press secretary's duties without breaking a sweat.

David| 1.20.12 @ 2:37PM

All of the primary candidates, including those who have dropped out, deserve high ranking positions in the next repub administration.

Romney can't possibly distinguish himself from Obama in the general election for the reasons everyone knows.

Newt is a live wire who could come crashing down at any moment.

That leaves steady, principled Santorum. I think the last two debates he has shown that he is a very good debater with a command of the facts and the issues. He is excellent one on one. It is still tough debating with 4 candidates left.

Support Santorum.

David| 1.20.12 @ 2:48PM

I too can't understand why Perry endorsed Gingrich rather than Santorum. If we accept that Newt is sincere in his conversion, sure, we can all be forgiven. Forgiveness does not mean there are not consequences for our actions - forgiveness does not mean that Newt should be REWARDED WITH THE PRESIDENCY just because he has been forgiven.

David| 1.20.12 @ 3:49PM

Santorum is our best hope. He simply does not have the baggage that Gingrich does and he has a thorough command of the issues. So, here are his positives again.

Hey folks, this is information on Santorum from RedState. It was published on January 6, 2012.

I keep telling everyone to get behind Santorum now - support him with five bucks. Forget Gingrich and Paul. Santorum can win - and win as a conservative.

The following is From RedState.

Here are his ratings from when he was in Congress:

American Conservative Union — 88%
National Right to Life Committee — 100%
Americans for Tax Reform — 95%
National Tax Limitation Committee — 92%
U.S. Chamber of Commerce — 88%
League of Private Property Voters — 94%

Now remember, this is Santorum’s House ratings, in a DEMOCRAT district. How many Republicans in Democrat areas vote this conservative? Kirk? Snowe? That’s conviction! Santorum is NOT a ‘big government conservative’ but an across-the-board mainstream conservative with a solidly conservative voting record, albeit marred with the support for earmarks and some spending bills that many Republicans in Bush eara fell prey to.

Yet another source that looks at Santorum’s record is Jen Rubin, who likewise absolves Santorum of the phony claim that he is a big-government conservative:

“While in Iowa, Texas Gov. Rick Perry tried to begin a line of attack on Rick Santorum claiming that the former Pennsylvania senator is a big-government conservative. That attack seems poorly thought through (shocking, I know from such a meticulous campaign) for several reasons.

First, Santorum is to the right of Perry in some important ways. Santorum opposed the Troubled Assets Relief Program; Perry wrote a letter on the day of the Senate vote urging Congress to pass legislation to avert a meltdown. Santorum, as we saw in the debates, is likewise to the right of Perry (and Newt Gingrich, for that matter) on immigration.

Indeed, Santorum’s supposed deviations from conservative orthodoxy are similar those of his rivals. He voted for earmarks and highway funds. Gov. Perry took the money. Santorum voted for Medicare Part D; Gingrich lobbied for it, and Perry said in a debate that he wouldn’t repeal it.”

“And finally, Santorum has put together an aggressive spending reduction plan. He’s for the balanced-budget amendment. He’s embraced Rep. Paul Ryan’s Medicare reform plan. He’s in favor of Social Security reform, against energy subsidies, for privatizing Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, and in favor of repealing Obamacare. The guy is no liberal when it comes to spending taxpayer money. Is he to the right of Gingrich? Yes. To the left of Ron Paul? Yes. But so are most GOP voters.”

Where Santorum deviated from the conservative line, like his vote on NAFTA and his support for earmarks, he was doing the exceptional thing, and those deviations were in most cases catering to his constituents. But UNLIKE most Northeast Republicans, that ‘catering’ did not extend to abandoning conservative principles again and again. They’ve been the exception to the rule that Congressman and Senator Rick Santorum held. With his support for lower taxes, prolife and profamily policies, conservative Judges, for balanced budgets and entitlement reform, against McCain-Feingold, for school choice, against TARP and Frank-Dodd. Rick Santorum has had a solid and mostly consistent conservative voting record.

Santorum further has a solid and conservative agenda for President. Romney timidly talks of getting spending maybe down to 20% of GDP. Rick Santorum fully supports the Republican balanced budget amendment that caps spending at 18% of GDP. He wants lower tax rates for all, going to a 10%/28% two tier tax rate and lowering corporate tax rates.

While Gingrich criticized the Ryan roadmap, Santorum embraced it. Newt supported Medicare Part D, supported at one time healthcare mandates, and supported all the Bush programs that conservatives object to in Santorum’s voting record. Romney has gone further of course, embracing not just TARP, but healthcare mandates and failing to even fully criticize the Obama stimulus spending. Only Gingrich or Santorum will wage a campaign that fully challenges Obama’s whole agenda and actually works to repeal it. Newt has pegged Mitt Romney rightly as a Massachusetts moderate, but Newt is not without flys in his ointment either, from global warming to embracing Hillary, Pelosi and Al Sharpton (!) at various times in attempts to ‘reach across’ bipartisanly.

The bottom line is that between Newt, Santorum, and Romney .. Santorum is the one who is most fiscally conservative and who will have the most fiscally conservative administration as President.

Both Newt and Santorum are conservative. Just not perfect conservatives. For those who say that Santorum is not a ‘true conservative’, I would argue simply that if an 85% ACU rating and leadership on conservative issues in Congress for almost 2 decades is not enough, you will NEVER find a ‘true conservative’ in the Presidential field.

For the rest of us without that fine a filter, yes, Rick Santorum is a ‘true conservative’. Conservatives will be happy with his SCOTUS picks, his support of our military, his support for life, his tax reform and entitlement reforms, his pro-energy policies, his economic growth agenda, his fiscally responsible budgets, and his appeal to get America working again.

I will copy an article by Krauthammer (Jan. 5, 2012) in my next post.

Alan Brooks| 1.20.12 @ 9:53PM

NRO'slead piece today (the 20th) by Krauthammer is
about the Romney-Gingrich suicide pact,

TycheSD| 1.20.12 @ 4:32PM

Where's the fourth guy in the picture? You only show three guys.

BackToBasics| 1.20.12 @ 8:10PM

ABC had been trying to interview Marianne Gingrich since November. Why the big delay? Did she want to wait to see if he would improve in the polls? This would probably net her more money and would add to the hoped-for pain she wanted to cause him.

I have not cared to follow their broken relationship so I don't know or care much about it. I know enough to know that Gingrich is not a wanna-be communist dictator like we now have in the White House. I also get tired of incessant tell-alls mostly against Republicans. I just want to get the best candidate to win the Republican ticket. In my opinion, of the 4 remaining, the 2 best are Santorum and Gingrich. But come this November, anyone with an R after their name will get my vote. I suspect we will have a Republican House and Senate and the alternative to any of the 4 remaining candidates is a dangerous Obam who will do everything in his power to destroy what's left of our still beloved country.

POST American| 1.20.12 @ 10:07PM

-------------------REALITY CHECK--------------------

Genocidal EUGENICS are underway
(ie weaponized injections, meds, GM food,
CHEM-trails, weaponized water,
Bisphenol A saturation plastics etc. etc. etc.)

FACT

Over 74% of ALLLL donations from
those in the armed services are going
to ---RON PAUL

FACT

In response to the passage of the unspeakably
UN-American NDAA 1031, and the authorized
secret arrest, torture, exile and execution of
Americans ---ANYWHERE--- some 3.5 MILLION
firearms were sold ---in December

FACT

----------------HUAC/ Nuremberg 2012---------------

FACT

Mike| 1.20.12 @ 11:49PM

So, what is going to be the story during the general election: Newt asked for an open marriage or Newt got mad when he was asked about whether or not he asked for an open marriage? Both look like winner for the Democrats

rhortus| 1.21.12 @ 10:57AM

Solyndra - Fast and Furious - Unemployment - Cronyism - Bill Ayers - Van Jones - David Axelrod - Valerie Jarrett - And It's the Economy Stupid!
Oh yea, The Democrats are going to have it easy?!

martin j smith| 1.21.12 @ 8:21AM

There are two interrelated matters that make me look at this campaign as farce and why I just do not like Romney: 1) That the MSM mediates these so called debates and 2) That the MSM is OK smearing anyone but Romney. You know guys you can fool some of the people all of the time but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. So Bob Grant I am not satisfied with your explanation and I am not satisfied with Romney as the nominee. He has not earned it as yet and I awaite his attempt to show to the many of us who do not trust him that he can be trusted. If he fails to do that well-adios amigo as far as support is concerned but I will vote no to Obama except for Ron Paul who is Obama.

martin j smith| 1.21.12 @ 8:49AM

I read an article ina recent blog that Neil Cavutoapprovedf of John King's question to Newt. Well birddof a feather and thus I do not watch FOX

Con Chef (NB) | 1.21.12 @ 6:12PM

That's the last thing I would expect from Cavuto, but I gotta say nothing surprises me vis a vi the media anymore.

rhortus| 1.21.12 @ 8:23PM

Newt's wheeling and dealing, broken marriages make him the least credible candidate.

rhortus| 1.21.12 @ 8:24PM

Does character count anymore?

Anthony| 1.21.12 @ 8:39PM

Well folks Newt has won S.C. This is a good thing!!!Romney, the establishments choice can't quite cut the deal. He, like Dole and McCain before him are men with no souls and no core convictions. Try as he might, the man is not inspiring about leading the charge to save this nation from its greatest threat to date, the Marxist left.
Despite Newt's many flaws, I am sensing a man coming into his own. A man who has made the decision in his soul that this election is about the future of America as we know it, and that this mission must be accomplished over and above any one politicians goals and desirses.
I think Newt has accepted the fact that history has deternined that he has a date with destiny. I think the man is sincere in his belief that this election will determine if America survives as that shining city on the hill, and that he will lead the charge against those forces on the left who wish to transform our great country.
So let's stop all the b.s. and all the who said what and when; it's time to crush Obozo and the Marxist /radical enviornmental left. For those of you still concerned about what the whores in the MSM will say and do to Gingrich, Gingrich will do to them what he did to John King. He will crush the bastards.
Gingrich, I believe, has, as a historian, recognized that history has created a confluence of events that has placed America at its tipping point. I believe Gingrich recognizes that fate has placed him at the vortex of these events and that he has accepted the fact that this is the moment and this is the point in history that a true transcending figure must rise to save America.
I believe he has made it his mission to do just that.

Dick Nome| 1.22.12 @ 8:45AM

Het Paulbots, your guy had a pretty dismal showing. Is that because they could only vote once this time??

Anthony| 1.22.12 @ 9:59AM

Apparently you are spot on Dick, as the Paul campaign said they was looking forward to the next caucus state.

Mistral| 1.22.12 @ 9:54AM

Ron Paul still remains the only candidate who makes complete sense. The media has done a masterful job of making him look invisible. Never trust the media these days - Newt Gingrich did a great job of exposing its humbug.

Anthony| 1.22.12 @ 10:02AM

It's Paul's positions on foreign policy that make this guy look invisible, or should I say, should render this guy completely invisible to any thinking American.

rhortus| 1.22.12 @ 10:39AM

Does Character Count Anymore?

Tina B| 1.22.12 @ 4:50PM

I think America made that decision back when Clinton was elected the second time (not by my vote). NO, character doesn't count.

Now, we have that out of the way, who can get the Commies out and give America back to the people? I can hold my nose and vote Gingrich, and look at myself in the morning and go on my way.

Id rather be able to vote for Santorum, and I will contribute my $5 and maybe more to his campaign. I will contribute some of my time and energy before we vote in Florida, as well. But come November, if I must, I will vote strictly anti-Communist. I will vote Gingrich.

Anthony| 1.22.12 @ 5:26PM

Yes character counts, except when America is facing an existential threat to its existence by the likes of the Muslim Marxist, then I'll stand with any man/woman who can and will take him and the left down.
We'll have a quaint discussion about character then, when the threat has been vanquished.
Until then, spare me your pious bull crap.

Buck Ofama| 1.23.12 @ 4:24PM

A+

POST American| 1.22.12 @ 9:31PM

---------------------FINAL WORD-----------------------

"Understand, Gingrich was brought in
to co-opt the REAL Constitutional
awakening of the early 90's.

He made his name standing on the the
steps of the Capital handing out
Toffler's 'Third Wave' screed on
'merging' fascist corporate and soviet
systems. In fact, he wrote the prologue.

----World CON-solidation and CON-troll
------and BOTTOMLESS EUGENICS-----
---------------is their stated aim------------."

'All of a 'peace' '---you might say.

NOW, go to the mirror,
make eye contact and -----SAY IT AGAIN. . .

threeleafclover| 1.22.12 @ 11:31PM

Several years back in Louisiana Edwin Edwards, who had been indicted for some crime having to do with gambling, was running again for Governor against the KKK David Dukes. Bumper strips all over Louisiana said VOTE FOR THE CROOK - WE NEED HIM. Edwards got elected

OK, whatever all of you simon pure critics have to say about Newt Gingrich, you better vote for him if he is the nominee.

Obama is a cobra but Newt is a mongoose.

If Newt can lure Obama into one debate he will pulverize him. The "cut" man for Rocky Marciano won't be able to fix Obama up for a second round.

If Milqutoast Romney is RNC choice it is curtains.
You can start thinking up cute names to call Obama for another 4 years.

threeleafclover| 1.23.12 @ 12:27AM

IN a debate, Romney is a non-starter. He does not think on his feet. Anyone listening to the debates sees he plays catch-up. He is flummoxed by a question in one debate. Has an answer for it in the next.

His eyes are beginning to take on the look of a person who has just had a good cry.

Keep in mind, folks - folks, we are not talking about suitability - up to the pursed-lip, tsk, tsk moral standards of all you commenters. Some of these postings sound like a meeting of the First Uprighteous Church of Pascagoula! We are speaking of electability. Newt is so dumpy and rumply, there will not be the GQ comparison to Obama. You better get over this "looks presidential" crap. You are not electing Chairman of the Board. Just look at the steely glint to those hooded eyes of Newt Gingrich. Who was it played gangster roles - Edward G. Robinson-- Little Caesar. Dye Gingrich's hair black, give him a fedora and a cigar, you've got Little Caesar. Put Gingrich in a debate with Obama and he will have Obama's guts for garters.

Look at today. Now Mitt is going to release his tax records. In the debate, gave that mewling, sick kitten "maybe" answer - saw the firestorm reaction - flip! flop! - now he is releasing them. Anyone with guts would have said, "John, where were you when everyone was wondering about Obama's college grades? Do we have those yet?"

How much do they deduct as a medical expense for Ann Romney's dressage lessons, which are good for her multiple sclerosis - takes her mind off the dreadful disease. Likes dressage so well, bought 1/4 of a horse. Wow, if you can only afford 1/4 of a horse with $250 mil backing you, it must be one helluva horse. Oh, and they bought the horse farm, too. All of which is perfectly OK - it just might not appeal to folks who cannot afford a pony ride for their kids. And so what? Calista likes shopping at Tiffany"s. It's still about electability!! Newt can chew Obama up and spit him out in a debate. They will have to dress Obama in those new men's DEPENDS.

Remember what Obama said -"They'll bring knives, we'll bring guns." You were warned.

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