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The Current Crisis
Thank You, God, for Tim Tebow
He should be an inspiration to us all.
WASHINGTON — I have officially called off my boycott of the National Football League (NFL). I do not care how many felons or frotteurs play the game. Now there is Tim Tebow to redeem it. He can pass and run. He inspires his teammates. He inspires many returning fans like me. I shall follow him through the playoffs and maybe even next year as the season resumes anew. He is an American original — and he is controversial. I am for him.
No, I shall not fall for the NFL’s gimmicks. You will not see me wearing a jersey of the Denver Broncos for whom Tebow plays. I shall not even buy a coffee mug. In fact, I think I shall add up how much money I could spend on Tebow paraphernalia and donate it to charity. Tebow inspires his teammates and now he has inspired me.
I first noticed Tebow when he won a string of games in the last minutes. It was phenomenal, but then I seemed to have brought him bad luck for he lost the next three games. Then came the Denver Broncos’ surprising upset of the Pittsburgh Steelers last Sunday. The Steelers played a great game behind the two-time Super Bowl winner, Ben Roethlisberger (himself an almost convicted felon who has now confessed his errors and mended his ways), but Tebow outplayed him. Roethlisberger did lead his team to an overtime Sunday. That worried me for I had already sat through hours of play and one of my complaints with the NFL is that the games are the closest thing we can experience on earth to eternity. Yet the Broncos won the flip of the coin. They elected to receive. And on the first play from scrimmage Tebow threw a pass to Demaryius Thomas (note the noble Roman name) and Demaryius outran the desperate Steeler secondary for eighty yards and a touchdown. Good show, fellows! The whole play took 11 seconds, the briefest overtime in NFL history.
Then came the grounds for controversy. Tebow after congratulating his Roman receiver knelt on one knee and thanked God. His recollections convey the essential Tebow. “When I saw him scoring,” recalled the victorious quarterback, “first of all, I just thought, ‘Thank you, Lord.’ Then, I was running pretty fast, chasing him—like I can catch up to D.T! Then I just jumped into the stands. First time I’ve done that. That was fun. Then, got on a knee and thanked the Lord again and tried to celebrate with my teammates and the fans.” Tebow is very pious, very humble (“like I can catch up to D.T.”), and a lot of fun (“that was fun”). How can anyone dislike him?
He runs charities in the offseason. He invites sick children to games. He does all manner of good deeds. He is the son of missionaries and he takes his religion seriously. This appears to be a problem for some players in the NFL and other concerned Americanos. Some have uttered insults at him over his religion and in fact over his general good-guy deportment. Why should this be? One can strut and perform the most lurid dances on the field. One can demonstrate on behalf of various controversial causes. Nary an eye is batted. Yet, a show of piety to one’s creator is deemed an offense. By the way, Tebow was not the only person on the field expressing a prayer. I saw a fellow from the Steelers make the Sign of the Cross repeatedly, and after an exceptionally good pass I dare say Roethlisberger raised his hands to the heavens. So what is so outrageous about a pause for a prayer of thanksgiving?
I predict that Tebow is in for some serious controversy in the weeks and years ahead. Some say he does not deserve his fame. That he is an unorthodox passer and a terrible ball handler. I do not know what they think they know. He is as strong as a bull and his running and passing wins games. Yet his real problem is the religious angle. Many Americans do not like it. They prefer their own gestures of false piety. They need our prayers.
About the Author
R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr. is the founder and editor in chief of The American Spectator. He is the author of The Death of Liberalism, published by Thomas Nelson Inc. His previous books include the New York Times bestseller Boy Clinton: the Political Biography; The Impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton; The Liberal Crack-Up; The Conservative Crack-Up; Public Nuisances; The Future that Doesn’t Work: Social Democracy’s Failure in Britain; Madame Hillary: The Dark Road to the White House; The Clinton Crack-Up; and After the Hangover: The Conservatives’ Road to Recovery.
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Michael Tomlinson| 1.12.12 @ 6:44AM
Amen!
Westchester Co.| 1.12.12 @ 9:01AM
A shocking Internet video that shows four Marines urinating on the bloody corpses of three slain Taliban fighters sparked a Pentagon investigation yesterday.
I just finished watching the disgusting 39-second YouTube clip, which US military brass fears could trigger an angry backlash throughout the Muslim world, shows the Marines grinning and joking as they relieve themselves on the bodies.
God bless our troops.
#45#| 1.12.12 @ 9:11AM
They're marines. What do you expect?
Paul from SA| 1.12.12 @ 11:49AM
The video is being reported this morning to be a hoax.
Bruce from Denver| 1.12.12 @ 1:48PM
Do you have a link Paul? I would like to share such news if from a newsworthy source. Thank you!
megapotamus| 1.12.12 @ 1:57PM
I don't care if it is real or a hoax. The piss of Marines is too good for these mooks, for the most part. We can shoot them, burn them, bomb them and bury them alive but whizzing on their corpses is, what? Haram? More importantly, what is it doing where it is? Clearly it is effectively spam, having nothing to do with the topic. This should not be encouraged.
Ed| 1.12.12 @ 4:04PM
The fact that readers--not just a few, but many-- are condoning this barbaric behavior by U.S. marines shows just how depraved our culture has become.
Many of you posters are lacking any sense of decency or morality.
Reading AmSpec can really be disturbing at times.
canuckistani| 1.12.12 @ 4:40PM
It's the same when Santorum applauded the assassination of the Iranian nuclear scientist. Devout Catholic or situational ethicist like Newtie and the 75% non-Paulite GOP?
The guy was 32 years old, trained as an engineer and probably had zero authority over the direction or aims of the program. He was blown to bits into a tree.
Last time I checked only one nation has actually used the bomb on people. Until another one does, we claim zero high ground in this realm and faux christians like Santorum should check their mouths or forever expose their hypocrisy.
Shame - we are better and deserve better.
Soljerblue| 1.18.12 @ 4:59PM
Fine. Don't read AmSpec. Better yet, shut up until you've had the unique experience of being shot at by someone who's seriously trying to kill you.
Fred C. Dobbs| 2.3.12 @ 12:37PM
I'm witchoo, SB!
Clark| 1.12.12 @ 3:24PM
The video is not a hoax.
Four Marines accused of urinating on Taliban fighters' corpses in Afghanistan are from Camp Lejeune, a Marine official told the Associated Press.
Con Chef (NB) | 1.12.12 @ 4:01PM
Again, who cares? Like the muzzies really NEED a reason to hate us...
canuckistani| 1.12.12 @ 4:44PM
The Brits the Russkies and now us have shown no reason to assume the high ground in Afghanistan.
They are a medieval country that sells their only cash crop to westerners jonesing for their fix. Why should they evolve if we cannot?
These marines should be punted as it creates more work for their platoon and their leadership when attempting to settle disputes. I thought we learned something from Vietnam?
Skippy| 1.13.12 @ 1:27PM
This will finally get the Muslims mad at us.
I'm quaking!
Soljerblue| 1.18.12 @ 5:00PM
When, O' Lord, are we going to reciprocate ??
LicketySplit| 1.14.12 @ 1:37AM
Dang...and i was going to nominate these fellows for the CMH...or at the very least a Silver Star:)
Ive seen a divison's patches stapled to the foreheads of VC and NVA regs in Nam...and it made them mad...so mad that they made mistakes because of it...haha
AhiaGuy| 1.12.12 @ 9:27AM
Nice attempt to distract, Wes.
So the Marines are human beings and contain some bad apples? Apparently you're shocked by humanity's base elements.
Did you leave a similar post condemning the taliban when they decapitated some American contractors and hung their bodies off a bridge?
Did you post something praiseworthy when you saw the picture of the American soldier comforting a little Iraqi girl in his arms?
Or are you just a troll?
Timothy L. Pennell| 1.12.12 @ 10:00AM
What am I missing, here?
Four Marines p*ssed on a Taliban POS?
So what? The Taliban isn't human. The Islamists aren't human.
Humans don't strap explosives to their own kids.
Humans don't Murder their Daughters, in the name of "Honour".
Humans don't fill their Baby's Milk Bottle, with Explosives, and then get on a Plane, in the hopes that they can BLOW IT UP, with their Baby on their lap.
Humans don't put Children in their Car, because they know that it's easier to get through a Check Point, and then Blow It UP, with the kids still in it.
Humans don't riddle cars, driven by a Pregnant Woman and her children, with Machine Gun Fire, and shoot the pregnant Mother in the Stomach, for good measure.
They should've cut their heads off, and Crapped in their Mouths, and THEN P*ssed on them.
What you call "Shocking" and "Bad Apples"? I call American heroes.
Let's hope, next time, it's a lot more than 3.
Tim B| 1.12.12 @ 12:43PM
Feel free to provide any evidence you have that any of the victims did any of these things. I'm sure some Taleban have done them, but I'm also sure that some of the people we end up fighting in Afghanistan are just fairly average people who feel an urge to fight foreign troops who are in their country. I'm also fairly sure that people on the other side could find things that American troops have done (e.g. dropping bombs on wedding parties) which they would give as evidence that "Americans aren't human."
On the subject of the article, am I the only person who's a little bemused at the idea of a God who would favor one side in a football game over another, and at citing someone who believes in Him as some kind of serious social indicator.
da monk| 1.12.12 @ 1:18PM
Tim B: Regarding God choosing his football team, I was also going to ask the same question. I wonder why God didn't answer the prayers of the opposing team's players. Could not be because they don't have charities they give to, because a good many do donate time and money to charties
Press On| 1.12.12 @ 4:05PM
OUR COUNTRY RIGHT OR WRONG!
I stand behind these marines 100%,
canuckistani| 1.12.12 @ 4:47PM
Don't bother. If Tebow was black there would be zero written here in support of his public displays of worship.
The Jesus-freak I thought handled the issue best was Kurt Warner. Tebow will mature and evolve as a man, and our glossing over of all things Tebow will wane with time.
Ground Control| 1.12.12 @ 1:29PM
As most people have done, you have missed the point. Tim Tebow himself expressed what this all means in the post game interview. He said that God has given him a platform (QB for Denver) from which he can spread God's Word. Tebow is not saying that God favors the Broncos or makes Tebow win games. He is saying that God gave him this position and when Tebow uses it for God's work, God is pleased.
Bruce from Denver| 1.12.12 @ 1:46PM
Good summation Ground Control. Tebow isn't claiming that God cares which team wins, he is only grateful for his chance to use his god given talents to praise him, and do good works. I'm a fence sitter between being a believer or agnostic, yet I don't see anything wrong with that kind of attitude. May God or the Creator or Allah or Buddha or Quantum Physics bless Tebow!
kevin| 1.12.12 @ 3:17PM
I heard the reason there was a hole in the roof of Texas stadium was so God could watch his team. Now they built another stadium and, like the schools, blocked God out.
I have been a Tebow fan ever since he was a freshman at Florida. He is my hero!
Harry| 1.14.12 @ 1:36PM
A god who can be blocked out by a stadium roof (or a public schools regulation) needs to be. Whatever else we might say about that deity, it's not the G-d of the universe, a deity which has classically been described as omnipresent.
merlin| 1.26.12 @ 6:32AM
Harry, a joke.
Harry| 1.14.12 @ 11:59AM
And herein lies the problem. It is arrogant to presume that G-d "has given him a platform" to use in evangelizing others. It is arrogant to presume that he has what others need. Indeed, I wonder if Mr. Tebow might consider thta his behaviors could prove counterproductive, that his presumptuous, insensitive behaviors might well prove repellant to anyone with a mature sense of adult behaviors. It is also arrogant to presume that G-d favors his team or somehow blesses his performance.
While he is entitled to believe as he sees fit, at the point he begins to impose those beliefs on the general public, we are no longer talking about freedom of religion. Rather, we are talking about maturity, respect for others, the ability to respond appropriately to various contexts. I hold no animus toward Mr. Tebow. But I do wish he would simply grow up. We expect college jocks to be a bit philistine, occasionally tone deaf to context. It's a little less charming in those we expect to behave as adults.
S&WM;&P| 1.12.12 @ 1:45PM
Everyone in WI believes God is a Packer fan!
megapotamus| 1.12.12 @ 2:01PM
The ostentatious dismissal of our enemy's humanity I do not endorse but they are quite dead. A sensible policy would be a policy of burying these carcasses with pig blood, turning their suprestitions against them.
Occam's Tool| 1.12.12 @ 2:10PM
Tim B: the list is numerous. And these assholes would have done these things if they had a chance. Grow up.
Occam's Tool| 1.12.12 @ 2:11PM
No, Tim. There are plenty of other idiots here. By the way, have you ever done work with indigenous peoples, or third world country missionary work?
Beverly| 1.12.12 @ 3:53PM
Tim, Tim, Tim -- Mr. Tebow has said REPEATEDLY that he DOES NOT BELIEVE that God favors one side or the other in FOOTBALL GAMES.
Arguing with you people is exhausting: you never stop with your lies, do you? You just hate Christians. Why don't you unload some of your vitriol on Muslims? or don't you have the guts? or are you down with their agenda?
Tim B| 1.12.12 @ 4:10PM
""When I saw him scoring," recalled the victorious quarterback, "first of all, I just thought, 'Thank you, Lord.'"
... forgive me for taking that as an indication that the Lord had played some role in the scoring of that goal, and had wanted it in some way.
Timothy L. Pennell| 1.12.12 @ 8:16PM
Shouldn't you be in your Blue Dress, waiting for Bill Clinton?
Skippy| 1.13.12 @ 1:32PM
You read a lot into other people's actions.
Amazing how you can tell other people's most personal thoughts.
Would that we could judge your motives similarly.
Tim B| 1.12.12 @ 4:13PM
Please enlighten me, Beverly, as to what "Muslims"' agenda is. All 1.6 bn of them, I presume. I'm all ears.
Skippy| 1.13.12 @ 1:36PM
False argument; I call BS.
It is a child's defense "you can't tell what everyone thinks!".
It is not required for us to know what all of them think.
Only the ones who take aggressive actions.
Were that the case, we could not have fought the Germans, as some were not Nazis.
Weak, troll. Weak.
Tim B| 1.13.12 @ 3:22PM
Well we usually tried to fight the Germans who were in uniform and who were fighting us, as I understand it. Likewise I've no problem in fighting those Muslims who take up arms against us and threaten our national security. I just don't like the suggestion that 'Muslims' in general have 'an agenda', any more than I like the suggestion that 'The Jews' have an agenda. My job mostly involves teaching English to Muslims here in Turkey, and I don't think more than about 0.1% of my students would ever wish any harm to an American. Even if they read some of the comments by Americans on this thread.
Harry| 1.14.12 @ 11:49AM
Mr. Tebow's disclaimers and his behaviors are inconsistent with each other. Thanking G-d for winning a game suggests divine intervention. And the notion that G-d thinks so highly of a team or its quarterback to intervene is nothing less than hubris. I have cheered Tim Tebow for a long time as a UF grad and I applaud his off-season work in charity. But that is the key qualifier: off-season. Football fields are not revival tents. And when Tim interjects his religion into that public arena, he ought not be surprised when people - many of us devout Christians ourselves - call him on his hubris and the inappropriateness of his behavior. Tebow is not a martyr, he's simply being a bit adolescent here. Time to grow up.
kate blanton| 1.26.12 @ 8:54PM
The Bible says that God cares even for the sparrow, so why shouldn't He care about a young man who is a witness to thousands of people each game. God does care who wins or who loses.Tim tebow has courage to stand up for what's right so why should you fuss about that if you really are a Christian? Why don't you do something for God instead of making critical comments about someone who does?
LOVE YOU TIM!!!
Timothy L. Pennell| 1.12.12 @ 8:13PM
What "Victims"?
Are you equating the SCUM that Murdered 3,000 Innocent Americans, on 911, as "Victims"?
I thought that Afghanistan was "The Good War"? "That's where we should be. Not Iraq."
STFU.
And, change your first name. You're a Pathetic DISGRACE, to the rest of us.
Teaghan| 1.13.12 @ 8:07AM
I think Tim was THANKING HIS GOD for the win, not asking for it. His kneeling was at the end of the game. Last weeks was anyway.
Charlene| 1.13.12 @ 12:49PM
Okay. God doesn't favor one team over another. Um, God has bigger things to worry about than grown men playing a child's game. God does, however, favor one person over another. God favors the ones that honor him over the ones who trash him. Tebow honors God, God repays the favor, get it? It's not rocket science. God honors in many different ways. Sometimes it's in the success of the job you do (think football player), sometimes it's in another manner. The same person (who honors God) doesn't get the same type of return favor each time. Hence, when Tebow doesn't play so well, it's not that God isn't "on his side" or is on the side of the opposing team. It's that Tebow's been favored in some other manner that particular day. So yes, you're the only one "bemused". Believe or don't believe in a higher power; it's your choice. But it doesn't make you superior or attractive to unfairly trash on someone because they believe.
johnfromjersey| 1.12.12 @ 1:35PM
Again Mr. Pennell you dazzle me with footwork. All that you say in the above is true, these people, (and I use the term loosely), are the prime example of what happens to a people when they're in bondage. They have no hope of a future, and are told by their leaders not to. Of course something like that could never happen here...
or could it?
Bulldawg | 1.12.12 @ 3:54PM
The people that are "Disgusted" never say anything about the Taliban cutting peoples heads off rapeing and stoning women blowing up women and children at markets. Nothing is too bad for these uuhh I can't think of anything bad enuff to call them.
Soljerblue| 1.18.12 @ 5:04PM
'Musloids' ?
KennesawJack| 1.12.12 @ 8:03PM
Tim, Untermenschen, to be sure. Maybe they pissed on them to get rid of their smell.
LicketySplit| 1.14.12 @ 1:41AM
Yes...why isnt that discussed? Seem like a double standard to you?
Isnt that what the progessive left do all the time? Demean the military ...gut it from within and then when a conservative gets into office it takes years to repair the damage. Shorting these military men on their pension and medical benefits is as criminal as it comes. Now they are going to cut 10's of thousands?? This administration is the most racist ....dividing one in the history of this country! Vote them out or we are DONE!
jim olson| 1.14.12 @ 3:38PM
What are you missing? Any functional brain cells? A sense of self awareness? Any shred of humanity? You talk about non-human? Start with yourself
DTOM| 1.12.12 @ 9:32AM
Westchester,
You knew what the video was about before you started it. You knew you were going to be offended. Why did you watch it? And then, more to the point, make us listen to you whine and complain about it?
And what is worse, murdering someone or defiling a corpse? The evil in the latter does not begin to approach the evil in the former, at all.
Are not all jihadists, actual or intentional murderers? Their reason for killing is their victims' failure to convert to their belief system.
So you are all wound up about making water on corpses? What about the intended murders of those corpses? Why don't you expend a little emotion on real victims?
Grow up.
Don't Tread On Me!
Westchester Co.| 1.12.12 @ 9:41AM
No. I am "all wound up" because of the fury this will cause to Islamists around the world.
I was in Manhatten on 9/11, and I do not want our country to ever experience an attack again.
This repulsive act by a group of brain-dead marines will stir up an Islamist hornets' nest.
Patrick| 1.12.12 @ 9:47AM
That's what I was thinking. Those of us living in NYC are a little more fearful of terrorism than those living in other parts of the U.S.
The marines' unspeakable behavior will, I am afraid, trigger retaliation by you know who.
Guest| 1.12.12 @ 9:50AM
Retaliation of some sorts will happen, and the marines actions will cost lives.
Timothy L. Pennell| 1.12.12 @ 10:09AM
You think that we have to do something, to make them attack us? You're doing it right now. You're breathing. You're an INFIDEL. That's all they need.
"I live in New York. I'm scared."
Yeah. But you're probably one of the PUKES, who wants to give them Constitutional Rights, and a Civilian Trial. You probably want to HANG these Brave Marines? You probably think that we shouldn't have Water boarded the SCUM. who Masterminded the 911 Attacks.
Your kind are always the same. You keep kissing the Tiger's *ss, in the hope that he'll Eat You last.
When New York gets hit, again, and it will, you'll be Crying for men like these, to come save your pathetic *ss. Hopefully, they'll P*ss on you, too.
Patrick| 1.12.12 @ 10:20AM
Timothy, you're obviously incapable of civilized communication and rational thought.
"Hopefully, they'll P*ss on you, too."
My, what an angry, depraved mind you have. I do hope you're not indicative of the typical reader of AmSpec.
Shalom.
Timothy L. Pennell| 1.12.12 @ 11:00AM
And, you're too Stupid to know WHO YOUR FRIENDS ARE!
I am angry. I'm sick of you FREE LOADERS, constantly complaining about the people who Fight and Die, fighting this RAW EVIL, so we can be free.
I served. Why do I know that you DIDN'T?
Run along. I think your Boyfriend's calling ya.
Guest| 1.12.12 @ 11:37AM
Patrick,
It looks like Pennell is "indicative of the readership."
They evidently approve of U.S. marine pissing on the dead bodies of their enemies.
The right wing's mentality is as depraved as the Republican Party--a party now composed mainly of ignorant fundametalist bigots.
Tim the Enchanter| 1.12.12 @ 2:04PM
Pardon- your hubris is showing.
babydriver| 1.12.12 @ 1:05PM
Timothy, Hmm.
You mean the freedom to be searched at the airport?
Lee Schafer| 1.12.12 @ 12:55PM
Patrick, evidently you are too stupid to know what is going on in the world. Take your head out of your a**. 6 million Jews died because a mad man didn't like them. The fundalmentalist muslim world has taken over for Hitler, but they have gone a step further in their inhumane cruelty, they include those, even other muslims, that don't believe as they do.
I think you are too stupid to even protect yourself.
Skippy| 1.13.12 @ 1:39PM
"Shalom"
The last words ever spoken to a Jihadi before you die.
Dmac| 1.12.12 @ 10:30AM
Tim is 100% correct. They already want to kill you. Marines urinating on dead bodies will piss(punn intended) off some Muslim's. Too damn bad. Flying planes into building fill with Jew, Hindus, Christians, and yes even Mulim's pisses off more people.
What the marines did, if it bears out that these are actually U.S. Marines, is wrong. But this is just one incident. Overall U.S. forces act with great dignity.
As for you New Yorkers being scared, shut the hell up. You're Americans and you should know no fear. You should be mad and angry, not scared. Being scared is the definition of of what all terrorist desire, you're fear. Instead of being scared or apologatic to the Taliban or any other terrorist, you should look at it like this, if you would have behaved like a human being you would'nt be treated like an animal today. Because thats exactly what the Taliban and Al Queda are, animals. Anyone who thinks the way they do are animals. They are not members of the human race. We have evolved past killing members of different religions as human beings.
Tim the Enchanter| 1.12.12 @ 2:06PM
If you think about it, this is probably the first shower these Taliban things had ever taken, albeit a "golden"one.
KennesawJack| 1.12.12 @ 8:05PM
Just the thought of it kind of gives you a warm and fuzzy. Ah, the visuals...
megapotamus| 1.12.12 @ 2:08PM
Allegedly, violent jihadis are NOT muslims in the estimation of the majority, moderate muslims that predominate. So why would they care if these bodies were pissed on or cremated or whatever? Jihad needs no further justification than your respiration, as observed above. Certainly this will be used as a tool of recruitment and incitement but then everything is. The Muhammed cartoons are. Obama's actions in Libya are. The hot dogs served at ball games are. We ARE at war with Islam, the statements of Bush and Obama to the contrary. Doesn't anyone recall the supposed rules against Marines defecating towards Mecca? Does your nose point East by South East when you crap? You are insulting the Prophet (PBUH), infidel!
babydriver| 1.12.12 @ 1:02PM
"I live in New York. I'm scared."
So where is your pistol? What? No self defense allowed in New York?
megapotamus| 1.12.12 @ 2:08PM
A pistol in a bomb fight?
johnfromjersey| 1.12.12 @ 1:37PM
Hey Tim, don't hold back, tell us what you really think.
BTW, I agree with you.
GoldenKnight87| 1.12.12 @ 10:32AM
By "you know who", I guess you mean Obama? Yeah, that'd be in character.
da monk| 1.12.12 @ 1:20PM
Geez, I am one quarter down in the comments and have to ask: What happened to the discussion about Tim Tebow?
mike| 1.12.12 @ 12:10PM
I live in NYC, and I am not FEARFUL of terrorism. I am ALERT 24/7 to the evil that is in this world, and to the scum that live in this city and will try to harm innocents. This "unspeakable behavior", while I would definitely not teach this to my children, is not the reason the Islamic world kills. They bury their daughters alive, forgodsake, for daring to go on a date!
Beverly| 1.12.12 @ 3:57PM
Patrick, I live in New York City, too: right downtown. And They don't need an excuse -- they have their religious mania driving them. This sort of thing, the Marines pissing on their carcases, is in another universe from the atrocities the Jihadis have committed, as you must know.
Cowering in fear of making them angry only excites their contempt. And what, by the way, do you think these fiends do to OUR men's corpses? Should they not fear our anger?
Well, no. Not as long as American milquetoasts are wringing their hands over points of etiquette.
Skippy| 1.13.12 @ 1:37PM
Your naivite and cowardice is unspeakable.
Bob Grant| 1.12.12 @ 11:15AM
Quit using scare tactics. If "..stirring up an Islamist hornets' nest" means protesting in the streets for a few days, then so be it. The same fear mongering was used during Abu Garab. A few hornets fly around and they settle. That's all.
Having said that, this act of evil by our Marines should not go unpunished. No excuses, pure evil.
Dave Williams| 1.12.12 @ 11:23AM
Relax. They're ALWAYS stirred up anyway. It's us or them -- I say, BRING IT!
Calvin | 1.12.12 @ 1:11PM
W. Co.;
It sounds like you have already capitulated to evil. If you are yearning to breathe free, toss a dart at the red states and move to the nearest small town. Your neighbors will care about you and you will be happier.
Teaghan| 1.13.12 @ 8:10AM
Why would "peaceful" kind, loving muslims get stirred up unless t hey are on the side of our enemy? If they are, then why the hell would we give a damn?
loulou| 1.12.12 @ 10:29AM
Boys will be boys.
But they didn't put bacon on them!
Dmac| 1.12.12 @ 10:34AM
We should have flown over Afghanistan on day one and sprayed everything and everyone with pig blood before we fired the first bullet. For that matter we should have told the Muslim world to deliver OSB to us in 90 days or we would nuke on of their precious cities, Mecca or Medina and followed through with it if they didn't. This belongs to the Muslims. This is of their doing and they let it creep from they're yard to our yard. They need to clean they're mess up and if they don't they have no right to bitch about what happens if someone else has to clean it up.
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 12:14PM
DMAC:
My wife often suggests that we simply load up the B-52 fleet with surplus hog bellies and carpet bomb Iran with them.
W| 1.12.12 @ 3:55PM
Al Adab
Your wife is smart, listen to her.
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 4:51PM
W:
I listen indeed. After the words, "I do" the two most important are, "Yes Dear".
KennesawJack| 1.12.12 @ 8:07PM
The last two are designed solely to "improve domestic tranquility". Failure to use them requires one to "provide for the common defense." These are called, in today's jargon, lessons learned.
Ted| 1.12.12 @ 11:39AM
What in hell does the above remark mean?
Ted| 1.12.12 @ 11:40AM
I'm referring to LouLou's remark.
Louis| 1.12.12 @ 11:41AM
She means the marines pissed on the dead Muslims, but at least they did not put bacon on them (Muslims abhor pork).
Crude shit coming from a crude woman.
KennesawJack| 1.12.12 @ 8:10PM
Rather charitable on her part, I'd say. Obviously an effort to provide some comfort for the families of the recently departed. Good on ya', LouLou
Con Chef (NB) | 1.12.12 @ 11:19AM
Who f-ing cares?! These were probably guys who were shooting at them not more than 5 mintues before the video was taken. And this has to do with Tebow HOW?
DRed| 1.12.12 @ 12:31PM
Soldiers urinating on the dead bodies of their enemies has probably happened in every war in recorded history. What's dumb is filming it.
Con Chef (NB) | 1.12.12 @ 2:03PM
Agreed!
W| 1.12.12 @ 4:05PM
Speaking of pissing, Senator James Webb said he would not piss on Jane Fonda if she was on fire. Were these muslims on fire?
KennesawJack| 1.12.12 @ 8:12PM
True story. Our local VFW has a picture of Hanoi Jane in the bottom of every urinal. It's actually a marketing ploy. You have such a strong desire to relieve yourself for the sheer pleasure of urinating on her, you find yourself drinking more than normal. Very, very profitable VFW.
W| 1.12.12 @ 4:04PM
It is absolutely shocking that we could expect an angry backlash from the muslim world. They are so peaceful and love the USA. How could they be upset? Why, one would think they were parading in the muslim streets after 9/11 or dragging American soldiers through the muslim streets in Somalia, or beheading a Jewish reporter (D,Stern), or throwing an American Jew in a wheelchair into the sea (Klingenhoffer), But we know these peaceful muslims never did that..
glenny| 1.12.12 @ 12:15PM
West,
The mooslim world needs NO excuse to "trigger an angry backlash". Mooslims are in a state of PERPETUAL backlash.
Geaux Tebow !
glenny
Occam's Tool| 1.12.12 @ 1:58PM
When you gotta go, you gotta go. I don't think Islamic Rage Boy is going to tone his rhetoric up or down over this. You see, I don't care what they think if they leave me and mine alone. If they don't, they should be shot and covered in lard. Respect is wasted on these animals.
Now, as for Tebow---he's great. Best Sports Role Model since Cal Ripken, who was the best since Ernie Banks.
chuck| 1.12.12 @ 3:18PM
So a few Marines pissed on a dead terrorist. At least they didn't cut the head off a live one, like they did with Daniel Pearl.
Your selective outrage is sickening.
yotambien| 1.12.12 @ 3:40PM
Dead taliban couldn't give a hoot about 4 marines pissing...they are too busy keeping 72 virgins happy.
bop berrigan| 1.13.12 @ 4:36AM
I'm also disgusted.. Not!!
With God all things r possible| 1.13.12 @ 8:11PM
News flash: Westchester County is rich and corrupt. And it's actually in Connecticut but was effectively stolen by force of arms in 1746 A.D. by the colony of New York.
This comment, like the comment above from "Westchester Co.", is neither true nor in the least relevant to this article. Really, contribute to this article or excuse yourself.
runningdeer| 1.14.12 @ 2:18AM
All the Marines are stationed at camp in North Carolina and have been identified now. Their actions might be against Geneva Convention rule. Not to mention what they have done to the Marine Corp. If they have shame they should be feeling it now.
I understand that these men grew up hearing about 9/11 and terrorism but not understanding
about ethics in war. They grew up hearing that water boarding was legal and necessary, but no one taught them what isn't acceptable and why. ( How can that be?)
noodles| 1.12.12 @ 9:05AM
Religion and Football.
Only in America!
Tina B| 1.12.12 @ 9:33AM
Correcto Mundo. And God bless America for that and all the other freedoms we share!
YoYo MaMa LaLa| 1.12.12 @ 9:44AM
Whadda ya mean?
Football IS religion!
Clark| 1.12.12 @ 12:21PM
and Hallelujah!
KennesawJack| 1.12.12 @ 8:14PM
Ain't it great!
Hobbes| 1.12.12 @ 12:47PM
I guess God hates Ben Roethlisberger.
Occam's Tool| 1.12.12 @ 1:59PM
He should. "Big Ben" is a pig.
Con Chef (NB) | 1.12.12 @ 2:07PM
After the most recent weenie waving incident in GA, there were signs all over this city saying "BENCH BEN!" The folks here in "Da Burgh" only give a crap about him now because he wins. They all know his off field persona, married or not, is manufactured BS. Not to mention some of the friends I knew who worked in Oxford, OH, where he went to school at Miami of OH (so did my Dad) confirmed that he was an outright douchebag.
Hobbes| 1.13.12 @ 10:33AM
You'd think God would have more important things to do than intervene in football games. Guess not.
runningdeer| 1.14.12 @ 2:25AM
Why would you think that? God is interested in everything that his kids are interested in. Even the stupid stuff. He just doesn't participate in the stupid stuff and he try's (often without success) to get his kids back on trac and doing the stuff that matters most to him.
Did you ever hear of a guy in the Bible named Daniel?
Tebo reminds me of that Daniel.Daniel bowed and prayed to God ( HIS God) 3 times a day. He was a slave who was elevated to a position of great authority because he knew who to bow to and he didn't quit on God no matter what anyone said or did to him.
Hobbes| 1.14.12 @ 5:45PM
Sunday is God's day of rest. Tebow is going to hell for working on the Sabbath.
Appleby| 1.12.12 @ 6:50AM
I like to read about Tim Tebow because he is the sort of person I would like to know personally. I think the reason so many people, including those on other teams, jeer and mock at him is that they know they ought to be more thanknful, more grateful and better behaved, and they compare themselves to him and feel small. Perhaps you have had the experience of saying something that just before you said it seemed witty and sparkling, and the minute you said it, you realized because of the way the object of your remark looked at you that what you had just said was cheap, vulgar and idiotic. That is not the fault of the other person (whom you may have instantly accused of being a Prude) -- that is your own fault and you know it is. If you had the right upbringing, you secretly thought of what your Mama would have said about what you just did, and you hate that most of all.
Tim Tebow perhaps reminds those who were taught better, what they ought to be and what they could be, just by example. The best take his example to heart; the rest hate him for reminding them of the choice they have deliberately made.
Darin| 1.12.12 @ 7:27AM
Tim Tebow is the kind of person I'd like to call a friend, and he's the kind of man I'd like my daughters to bring home. May God continue to bless and strengthen him.
C Smith| 1.12.12 @ 11:44AM
Forget football, Tebow has found something far more important: "... He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life" (John 5:24).
Tebow listened and one day will hear his Lord call: : "... the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation" (John 5:28-29).
Margie| 1.12.12 @ 2:47PM
Amen to that!
Big Bob| 1.12.12 @ 6:52AM
couldn't agree more. What a great cultural contrast....a life size "mirror" if you will. Well said Mr. Tyrrell.
bop berrigan| 1.12.12 @ 7:00AM
I'm sorry but I must be blunt. Tim Tebow is a member of my tribe, and he makes me proud.
loulou| 1.12.12 @ 10:30AM
He's not a member of my tribe but I love him just the same.
Stephanie| 1.12.12 @ 7:03AM
You forgot his greatest offense: he is pro-life. Abortion is the sacred cow of this nation and he escaped the trap set for him.
Darin| 1.12.12 @ 7:28AM
In the minds of the baby-killers, it's even worse. His mother actually REFUSED to kill him as an unborn baby despite real danger to herself.
megapotamus| 1.12.12 @ 2:12PM
Right, he is an abortion survivor and so an affront to those who justify the baby-grinder with fantasies that they are killing thugs and parasites in the womb. Not that there is anything wrong, on principle, with parasitism.
Bob Grant| 1.12.12 @ 11:23AM
In the minds of the haters, he crossed the line being pro-life in such a public manner.
He's now in Palin territory.
Ask them, however,
Brian Mc| 1.12.12 @ 7:05AM
He was instrumental in beating my team on Sunday. But, with that said, I would not mind a day out on the water, fishing and sharing stories. Of course, all the while wearing my Steelers jersey that my daughters got me for Christmas last. He has a big challenge ahead and Sunday next will come and go...the score to be forgotten as they always are. And though he bested my Steelers, I'll be rooting for him on that day while waiting for 'next year'. Getting 'Tebowed' isn't such a bad thing.
joellen| 1.12.12 @ 7:14AM
GOD has blessed Tim Tebow and now HE blesses us with being able to share Tim Tebow's sincere love and faith. I use him at every opportunity when teaching my 14 year old's at CCD. To have someone young like them unashamed to profess his love for our LORD & SAVIOR - priceless.
Tina B| 1.12.12 @ 9:42AM
Way to go, joellen.
I taught CCD in SoCal, many, many moons ago, and tried to relate "Stairway to Heaven," and "Low Spark of High Heeled Boys," to my 15 yr olds. It was a stretch, I admit, but I liked to take something from the student's real world to connect with the things of God, just as Scripture relates our earthly bodies and its members with the heavenly ones.
Tebow is obviously being used by Our Lord to teach us, those of us who know Him and those who don't, more about Himself.
We who know Him know what joy He must feel (God feels and we are made in His image) as His child Tim "in all things, with prayer and supplication," brings his needs, his thanks and his praise to the One who is the Souce of it all.
da monk| 1.12.12 @ 1:24PM
Again I ask, Why weren't the other teams prayers for victory answered. Did they say or do something wrong?
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 1:29PM
monk:
Certainly your question is rhetorical as you must know that while He knows the hair of our heads and is concerned with matters that concer us, His focus is on the Kingdom. That which profits His kingdom, as demonstrated by this conversation, is what He seeks.
Occam's Tool| 1.12.12 @ 2:00PM
Yes. Have you read about Big Ben's actions? Now go and smack your face twenty times with a stone tablet.
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 2:59PM
O/T:
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canuckistani| 1.12.12 @ 4:53PM
Ok, let's do an accounting of the sinfulness of each team's roster.
Brady is an adulterer and probably a fornicator, too. Belichek is a cheater, a slanderer and probably a fornicator, too.
John Fox is a lifetime .500 coach, not an adulterer and probably only says the Lord's name in vain once or twice during the first three quarters of a Tebow game.
Game on!
Margie| 1.12.12 @ 2:50PM
da monk: Because God does whatever He pleases!! Ps. 115:3.
FlaJim| 1.12.12 @ 1:35PM
In your oblique way, I believe you're on to something in what you say. With Tebow, it's not about him; it's about Him. Win, lose, or draw, he always gives credit to God and his team mates in a good outcome and accepts full responsibility when the chips are down.
Few professional sports players do that but it's what we came to expect when he was a Fla Gator. He truly feels humbled before God for any success, accepts responsibility, and is joyful in the opportuities that God has granted him. If ever there was a role model in sports, Tebow is the epitome. God bless him and his wonderful family.
Stephen| 1.14.12 @ 1:52AM
As always, where is your evidence? One has to question an adult who still believes in fairy tales, whether a football star or not.
Darin| 1.12.12 @ 7:24AM
The subtle attacks have already begun. USA Today has an article that mentions abortion and gay marriage, making not-so-subtle hints that Tebow is probably against these things. Tim will be vilified - count on it. Remember the uproar about the Super Bowl commercial with his mom? Tim's been in the spotlight since his days as a Gator, so I'm sure he's used to it. I just hope he's prepared to deal with the relentless lies and insults that will flow from the media. In the media's eyes, Tim Tebow MUST be destroyed.
Tina B| 1.12.12 @ 9:44AM
Yup. You'd think he was a GOP condidate.
megapotamus| 1.12.12 @ 2:15PM
I think it is safe to say that Tim DOES oppose abortion, his life depended on it. On gay marriage, well, who knows? But these days, when the Left talks about "civil rights" this (and since Obama embraced the Patriot Act, ONLY this) is what they are talking about.
Ken (Old Texican| 1.12.12 @ 7:25AM
Well spoken, Emmett.
...and you guys too.
RCV| 1.12.12 @ 11:15AM
I'm head of "Liberals for Tebow". What's not to like about the guy?
Dave Williams| 1.12.12 @ 11:26AM
Well, his release isn't always as quick as it should be, or in the proper form...:-). I know what you mean: I'm a devout atheist, and I LOVE to watch him play...all success to him, except, of course, if he should encounter my beloved Giants in the Super Bowl.
DRed| 1.12.12 @ 12:04PM
He's not a very good at throwing the football? He seems like a nice kid who actually practices what he preaches. But he completed 47% of his passes this year. That's horrible. I wouldn't trade Mark Sanchez for him, which is really saying something.
All that being said, I hope he's fantastic against the Patriots this weekend.
All American American| 1.12.12 @ 12:34PM
As a Bronco fan I can say with 150% conviction that we wouldn't trade Tebow for the show-tune listening, GQ strutting, turnover prone, heartless, gutless Mark Sanchez either.
It ain't Tebow getting called out by teammates for being lazy and content.
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 1:31PM
Any honest and forthright man should be honored by hsi fellows.
Timothy L. Pennell| 1.12.12 @ 8:22PM
Well, whatta ya know.
It's a Miracle.
Kelly Staples| 1.12.12 @ 7:36AM
Tim will need a miracle from his Big Invisible Buddy to pull it off THIS time! Mr. Brady hath been blessed with talent, too.
jothepro| 1.12.12 @ 9:18AM
Let me get this right Kelly. GOD is a Big Invisible Buddy?
Timothy L. Pennell| 1.12.12 @ 10:11AM
No. He's "His" Big Invisible Buddy.
Read your Bible.
Stephen| 1.14.12 @ 1:53AM
No, he doesn't exist. Get an education instead of reading the Bible.
Hobbes| 1.14.12 @ 5:47PM
God will destroy Tebow for violating his commandment not to work on the Sabbath. Just kidding, god is superstitious mumbo jumbo.
Down-Easter| 1.12.12 @ 7:50AM
Think about it. A man who spends a lot of time doing charitable work—values and activities liberals extoll—is vilified by them. Why? Because such altruism must be practiced only by government and secularists. Tebow—physically, mentally and morally—is a poster child threat to this blinkered view in every way.
megapotamus| 1.12.12 @ 2:16PM
I'm about as "Green" as an American can be. My carbon emissions come mostly from my own body but yes, I would be a figure of revilation were I not defensively obscure.
Rev| 1.14.12 @ 2:06AM
Yes, because hyperbole and a mediocre NFL QB with a tendency to prayer pose in front of cameras speaks volumes about the state of homogenized religion in America today...
Ellen| 1.12.12 @ 7:53AM
My son-in-law wants my granddaughter to marry Tim Tebow. If she brought home a man like him someday, I'd Tebow right on the spot. He's a good, decent, grounded individual - the kind of man who was celebrated not too long ago. Now, he's vilified. I think I'm living in Bizarro World.
Rev| 1.14.12 @ 2:07AM
"Vilified"?
Really?
Got persecution much?
William Wallace| 1.12.12 @ 7:57AM
I wish I were half the man Tebow is. He is an example how we all should be: humble, devout, generous, self effacing. A member of my tribe indeed.
May God continue to bless Tim Tebow lavishly.
JmsA| 1.12.12 @ 2:33PM
Hear! Hear!
Rev| 1.14.12 @ 2:09AM
He's definitely brainwashed by the religion he was born into, but no doubt with some practice he could complete 1/2 of the passes he makes down the road, if he stays with the QB position.
Now wouldn't that be something?
(Oh, such vitriol, eh? Talking about his mediocre passing skills? I MUST be bashing Jesus!)
Vance Frickey| 1.15.12 @ 2:21AM
The problem isn't Tebow's passing skills, it's the Broncos front office trading our two best wide receivers this season. Tim Tebow has hit guys on the numbers time and time again only to have the pass bobbled. What does he have to do, run the ball down and lateral?
wodiej| 1.12.12 @ 7:57AM
I admire Tebow for sticking to his values but it doesn't redeem the NFL for all the criminals they pay millions to play. There will have to be alot more Tebows before I will ever watch again. Allowing dog torturer Michael Vick to come back was the last straw.
Ryan| 1.12.12 @ 9:27AM
Ah, so there's no room for forgiveness, either, in the NFL?
Appleby| 1.12.12 @ 11:12AM
Forgiveness is not acceptance. Forgiveness is something we do for ourselves -- we let go of the ill will we feel toward someone who may in fact richly deserve our scorn, so that we can get on with our lives. Remember, the Pope forgave the man who tried to kill him, but he didn't demand that the man have the charges against him dismissed and that he be freed from prison.
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 11:14AM
There is and always should be forgivness, conditioned by "go and sin no more". Even though as individuals we must forgive "seventy times seven" we are not obligated to excuse or accept the continuing sin. Neither does accomplishment in one endeavor excuse failures of character in others nor conversly does failure in some negate accomplishment in others.
As to Tebow, this is a young man with strong faith. That should be encouraged and accepted just as othes expect us to accept "diversity" in other matters. Is it not interesting though that the man who has John 3:16 on his face (and in his heart) passes for 316 yards and averages 31.6. Anything to numerology?
Margie| 1.12.12 @ 2:57PM
The NFL is a worldly organization, not a Christian one.
You cannot expect the World to live or behave according to biblical standards!
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 4:48PM
Indeed true Margie. It is of the world and those of us "not of this world" recognize when honor is given to The Kingdom.
Gazinya| 1.12.12 @ 7:57AM
"Every day preach the Gospel and when necessary, use words." This ditty was ascribed to Thomas of Assi. I believe this 'controversy' is what happened to the Palin Family, Bachmann Family and now the Tebow Family. This visceral disgust at people who do not share a humanist world view. Shame is what drives it mostly, in my opinion. Like others have stated here, when I have made really stupid decisions and made offensive comments and the reaction was not answered with like malice but with a quiet understanding I FELT shamed. All the possible directions that I could have taken to make a point or to advance a philosophy, the one I chose was the most ugly. Ugly loves a crowd and when people like the Palins, Bachmanns and Tebows stand out from the crowd it is hurtful to the crowd. Hence, hateful derision.
"The wicked strut about freely when that which is vile is honored among men." The mob doesn't like to be shamed. I am grateful to my God for showing me a more perfect way.
Ryan| 1.12.12 @ 9:28AM
As much as I like Francis, the quote is bunk. We are called to preach the Word with love AND truth - and words - kind and firm and good and wholesome - are necessary.
Gazinya| 1.12.12 @ 11:08AM
I agree that 'Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word'. But Tebow wasn't stumping his faith but he 'acted' different and was questioned about his behavior. This gave him the opportunity to tell people about his faith. Does anybody ask or question Pelosi when she says she is a 'devout Catholic'? No. There is no evidence that she is telling the truth. Does Reid or Ruth Ginsburg get hazzeled by their Mormon and Catholic religion. No. There is no evidence they believe what are the tenents of these religions. So I think, when one seeks first the kingdom of God this is done by and through the action of 'seeking' not talking. That comes after that which is sought is found.
da monk| 1.12.12 @ 1:34PM
Gazinya: When did Justice Ginsberg convert to Catholicism? Also, why do I or anybody else have to profess to YOU or anyone else their religious beliefs. And if they do, does that really prove they mean what they say? Think about priests burning those they call heritics or Germans in WW II going to church after they gas Jews
Occam's Tool| 1.12.12 @ 2:05PM
Da Monk: he's a nice man who works with the poorest of the poor in the Phillipines in his off times.
Now, I've worked as an MD with Native Americans where it gets down to 40 below and with the Maori of New Zealand. But he goes and bears witness in true 3rd world conditions---I admire the man for his work with the poor, and the reasons he does it, and I know a lot about it. You, I take it, are just a Liberal poetaster.
Tebow's worth 100 da monks.
Margie| 1.12.12 @ 4:25PM
For one thing, Catholicism doesn't preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
And Ryan is right. Preaching the Gospel means actually speaking it.
And Tebow isn't hiding his light under a bushel to be sure!!
Sharkman| 1.12.12 @ 11:09PM
Excuse me? You obviously know absolutely nothing about Catholicism. Catholicism preaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ every day, and has for almost 2000 years. It is the ORIGINAL Christian church. The rest of the denominations broke off from it, some for good reason, some for bad. But an allegation that Catholicism does not preach the Gospel is simply devoid of fact.
Margie| 1.13.12 @ 1:33PM
You're excused by me but better make sure you understand exactly it is what you're believing in because whatever it is, God will judge you for it.
Catholicism doesn't preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ because it doesn't believe it.
What it teaches is "Salvation" through the church and not through Christ. Through belief in its "Popes" and the priests and Mary as "Mother of God".
It does not teach about a spiritual birth or regeneration by the Spirit through faith in Christ Himself, by His Grace.
Where in the Bible (God's Own Words) it is written:
"Jesus answered and said to him, Truly,
truly, I say to you, If one is not generated
from above, he is not able to see the Kingdom
of God." Jn. 3:3.
It disregards this and teaches that Salvation comes by physical baptism, by belonging to a physical church, and doing its works.
It doesn't teach believing into Christ, it teaches believing into "the Church".
And it teaches that Bible believing Christians who reject it's false teachings, such as Transubstantiation, the worship of Mary as Mother of God through a Trinity, the so called sacraments, infant baptism, and myriad other unbiblical teachings~ are heretics.
It always has, and apparently it always will, as it has never repented. The Papists used to murder Bible believing Christians for six centuries because they. like me, stood on Scriptures.
They can't kill us anymore, but the pure evil hatred is still the same.
I hope you repent and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and turn from believing the church of Satan.
Vance Frickey| 1.15.12 @ 2:29AM
Speaking about Mormonism or Catholicism as though there were something especially wrong about their tenets needing to be disavowed says more about you and your faith than it does about those faiths. I belong to neither faith, nor do I accept all of what they have to say, but I think that anyone who does accept the tenets (note the spelling, "tenents' is NOT a word) of either faith should be judged by their actions, not their beliefs.
VBMax| 1.12.12 @ 7:58AM
I'm not a Christian but I do love Tebow. He exemplifies everything that is good about humanity. Such a sharp contrast to what we generally see in our culture today. Only problem I have is what seems to be a call to the Creator to help win a football game or some such thing. I think it was Dennis Prager who referred to it as the "Celestial Butler" who is often called upon to take sides or help out in a game or issue. Not appropriate as far as I'm concerned. I don't think the Creator is a football fan at all. He must have better things to do.
Dmac| 1.12.12 @ 8:45AM
I don't believe Tim Tebow ask God to help him win football games. I beleive he ask God to protect him and to help be the best that he can be. But more than any of that, I belevie Tim Tebow thanks God for everything in his life, and everything in general. You really don't know the blessings of God until you start praising God. The more you praise God, the more blessings he will deliver to you. I know thats's what happened in my life. I don't ask for anything from God for myself any longer. I've learned all I have to do is believe, trust and praise him andhe will deliver all my needs without asking. My cup truly runneth over. Tebow is a great example of what God wants to do for all of us.
God is good everyday.
da monk| 1.12.12 @ 1:36PM
DMac: Your's is the best comment regarding Tebow in this entire conversation so far
Brian Mc| 1.12.12 @ 2:27PM
Way to go, Dmac! You reminded me of the verse from St. Paul in one of his letters where he states something to the effect, "...all good things come to those..." in which I believe Paul was referring, even, to the bad...it was all for the good-in the long run. Same holds for a game, win or lose, it is all for the good. Happiness does not come from without, but from within.
AllysonD| 1.12.12 @ 8:48AM
Actually, God is interested in everything that concerns us; He has numbered the hairs on your head. The opposite is true - we do without God when His desire is to be invited into every area of our lives.
Tina B| 1.12.12 @ 9:54AM
Yes, I too believe that nothing in my day is missed by God. Even though I can barely keep my eyes constantly on my 18 month old grandson for 4 hours, a universe creating God can watch all of His children all of the time.
I want what's best for my baby, just as God does, but I can't see the future and God can. So He doesn't say "Yes," to our every request, but sometimes says "Wait," or even, "No, this is not for you. I have something better for you."
And I also believe that Tim Tebow's pre-game prayers are along the lines of, " . . . Lord, your will be done through me, for your honor and glory."
This is a request God always honors.
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 12:18PM
Every one here remember Tom Landry? It always bothered him that games were on Sundays. As Allyson says above, He is interested in those matters which interest us. However, His vision is the glory of His kingdom not necessarily our favorite team.
W| 1.12.12 @ 4:12PM
Al Adab,
Sandy Koufax did not pitch on Jewish holidays.
I liked Landry, even though he coached the Cryboys against the Steelers, and the ownership treated Landry like crap when they fired him. I believe Landry was fighter pilot in WWII.
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 4:46PM
W:
I have heard that about Kofax to his credit. The superbowls that the C'boys (to honor your sensibility) and Steelers played were, without doubt, the best ever. In those days only two teams even belonged on the field; Pittsburg and Dallas. Could we reprise with Houston this year?
W| 1.12.12 @ 5:56PM
Al Adab,
Isn't the restaurant "Chic-a-Filet" closed on Sundays because of the owner's religion?
Steelers v. Cowboys were the best Super Bowls, Bradshaw v. Staubach,.
We had a radio/tv guy in Pgh, Myron Cope, who covered the Steelers and invented the TerribleTowel (all proceeds go to a charity for children) . He had a name for all our opponents and we still use them: Cincy Bungles, Dallas Cryboys...
albert constantine jr.| 1.12.12 @ 8:44PM
Actually, I think I've heard that Koufax wouldn't pitch on Saturdays, the Jewish Sabbath, due to his Orthodox Jewish faith. If his turn in the rotation came up on Saturday, he would be skipped.
Kevin in Appalachia| 1.12.12 @ 1:13PM
I applaud him for his works, however I do not like to see "crossing" or "kneeling & praying in public. Crossing is a man-made tradition. We are not to perform man-made traditions. Matthew 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? And unless we are conducting a public prayer we are do it in secret, not to be seen of men. Matthew 6:6 But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
johnfromjersey| 1.12.12 @ 1:51PM
Oh Kevin, hasn't anyone ever explained the INTENT of that passage to you?
Jesus was responding to the hypocrisy of the "religious leaders" of the day. Those people who, for the sake of those around them, offered public displays of prayer for their own gain, not Gods.
Kevin in Appalachia| 1.12.12 @ 3:40PM
He was speaking to the mutitudes. Was Matthew 5&6 just spoken to the "religous leaders"? No. It was to those in his audience. In these chapters Jesus said that anybody doing thing to be seen of men already had their reward and that they were hypocrites. He tells us to give secretly and to pray secretly. That way we remove the possibility that we look like we are doing it for show...even if we have the best of intentions. Look at the verses: He says those that do it to be seen are wrong, but then he tell us a command, when we pray it is to be in secret, whether said to yourself or in private. That way we remove any chance of someone thinking we are doing it to be seen. Tebow may have the best of intentions, but it can still have the "look" of show.
Margie| 1.12.12 @ 4:16PM
Kevin,
You keep repeating it, yet you don't see it!
johnfromjersey's point is the same point Jesus was trying to make:
"Doing it in order TO BE SEEN."
IN ORDER TO ... be seen.
Intent intent intent!
Kevin in Appalachia| 1.13.12 @ 9:03AM
Margie and in all due respect, He tells us when we pray to do it in private. That way we can not be mistaken as one that does pray to be seen.
Matthew 6:6 is a command: But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
Margie| 1.13.12 @ 1:34PM
Kevin: Then by all means, go into your closet and pray!!
Kevin in Appalachia| 1.13.12 @ 3:18PM
Well, it is a command, not a suggestion. The New Testament is either the word of God or it is not. If it isn't, then it's just a book of suggestions or a guide, if you will. But if it is as it claims...That's sure a good reason why Jesus said, "Why do you call me Lord, Lord and do NOT the things that I say?"
Margie| 1.13.12 @ 3:34PM
Do as you must.
Beverly| 1.12.12 @ 4:09PM
Again, Tebow has said Many Times that he does NOT believe "God takes sides in football games." He's said that he asks God for the strength to do his best, and thanks him afterwards.
Sharkman| 1.12.12 @ 11:16PM
As previously mentioned, Tebow NEVER asks God for help in games and repeatedly states that God is not interested in who wins. God uses Tim Tebow to spread his word. When he wore John 3:16 on his eye-black during the 2009 National Championship game, 90 Million people googled the meaning. Since almost all Christians know that most important Biblical reference by heart, that means 90 million non-Christians, or 1.29% of the entire world's population, read the message: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." In one day. That's why Tim Tebow is here.
Gazinya| 1.12.12 @ 7:59AM
Or was that Francis of Assi? Thomas Aquinus, Francis....I still meditate on the ditty.
Edward Cropper | 1.12.12 @ 8:01AM
Very good article and also very humorous in a genuinely good manner.
Gazinya| 1.12.12 @ 8:05AM
VBMAX. I don't believe that Mr. Tebow is asking his God to give him, Tebow, a win but that he, Tebow, perform to the standard of excellence that He, his God, would call 'well done'.
Appleby| 1.12.12 @ 11:16AM
I recall a couple of lines from "Chariots of Fire" when the very religious Eric Liddel (who was a real person) explains to his sister, "I believe God made me for a purpose, that he made me [for missionary work']...but He also made me FAST. And when I run, I feel His pleasure."
Maddox| 1.12.12 @ 11:38AM
I agree, I don't think GOD cares who wins a football game but he does care how those participating act. Tebow is a wonderful example of how to act. I am glad he has attained a position to publicly share the peace and joy his faith has brought him.
megapotamus| 1.12.12 @ 2:19PM
It is the distinction Lincoln made, that we don't claim God is on our side but we comport ourselves so that we may pray that we are on His side.
Brian Mc| 1.12.12 @ 2:31PM
Nice
bluecollarbytes| 1.12.12 @ 8:24AM
Tebow does not parade himself as a righteous figure, just an imperfect servant of God. He does 'testify' his faith though, which God wants.
PopMedia will pile on him any time it can because he is an anti-bad-behavior action figure that contrasts sharply with the typical human behaviors glorified, or at least excused, by PM.
SUSEYQUE| 1.12.12 @ 8:31AM
I Thessalonians 5:18 – In everything give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ ... Every book in the Bible speaks of the need for giving thanks to God . Tebow's honoring the Lord by doing what the Word of God says to do. Tebow is a bright light in the midst of great darkness that has enveloped our present culture.
johnfromjersey| 1.12.12 @ 1:53PM
Well said girl.
Brian Mc| 1.12.12 @ 2:32PM
I once worked with a man who would have something happen, as we all do, that did not bode well for his happiness. And, in response, he would utter a phrase that I've hardly been able to emulate, "Praise God".
Margie| 1.12.12 @ 3:02PM
Praise God!
David W| 1.12.12 @ 8:32AM
Yesterday I brought up "Yahoo" and saw "Tebow's play may have been illegal." The gist of the story was that the left side was not lined up correctly. Was that how they scored the touchdown? Of course not (and someone was quoted as saying that the formation wasn't as bad as many he's see by other teams). But hey, anything to take away from the win (I bet if the Steelers had done the same thing no one would say a word.
The only way I will watch the superbowl is if the Broncos are in it. Otherwise I will skip it and the "Like a Virgin" halftime entertainment (I wonder if Madonna will make any comments about Tebow during her little concert).
Dmac| 1.12.12 @ 8:48AM
I can't beleive the NFL would pick a trashy has been to entertain at the superbowl.
DTOM| 1.12.12 @ 9:37AM
At least it's not the Rolling Stones again...
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 12:19PM
News this morning is that Kelly Clarkson will sing National Anthem.
bluecollarbytes| 1.12.12 @ 8:55AM
I saw that 'story', which was really all about the opportunity to create the headline they used.
da monk| 1.12.12 @ 1:39PM
Hey, the games over. Denver won. Who cares now if they lined up illegally
LarryK| 1.12.12 @ 9:02AM
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Kwisatz Haderach| 1.12.12 @ 11:06AM
LarryK,
A comment to the point!
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 12:21PM
KW: (Mu'ad Dib, Usul, Paul)
Perhaps Larry just meant the conversation is vacuuous.
megapotamus| 1.12.12 @ 9:08AM
Universe, mostly indifferent has special indifference for Bill Maher
Posted on January 10th, 2012 by Ken Watson
Sports draws the traffic. On the talking box, on the intertubes, to the stadium and in chit-chat; sports is the universal solvent of unacquaintance and disunion. It’s a somewhat paradoxical effect given the habits of hockey fans and Olympic attendees to occasionally jeer or attack the other side but even the bitterest footie yob who would bite the ears off another ticketholder for wearing the wrong colors can find a kinship there while he could only blink in amazement at any suggestion that, hey, it’s just a game. Discouraging words like that are passing rare, as heresy deserves. Interest in a sport and adherence to one team or another cut across other demographic divides combining races, classes, those who do and do not wear glasses into a single SportsNation whose language is as loud as it is untranslatable. But the outside elements do intrude. Even a militant sports detractor like Yours Truly knows that there has scarcely been an event in forty years where some guy in the stands with a painted face and rain-fro wig hasn’t been waving an enigmatic sign; John 3:16. It is not too inscrutable. As the non-sportsman still knows who won the World Series, so even the most rabid secularist recalls or can find out that this is a citation to a verse in the King James Bible, (from recently refreshed memory) For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that he who believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. As a drunken Billy Graham might have put it, this is Christianity for Dummies, or those with busy schedules. Religiousity has been part of sports as it has been part of life all along. Chariot racers competed for the favors of Athena and Mars. The Aztecs played ball to decide who would be sacrificed, and who executed. Knute Rockne, whether in life or as depicted in that bastard child of two distractions; the sports movie, was a praying man, publicly so and so were his players, his staffers, his imitators and his fans. So no need to denounce Tebow as a usurper or opportunist since he has brought a quick, ritualized endzone bow into the previously dignified world of touchdown celebrations.
But denounced he is. The cry reaches out even to those who avoid sports and sports-related talk as part of THEIR religion. Foremost comes the muddy, nasal griping of a pygmy in all regards; a man who delights in faux rebellion, who denounces with abandon and demonic relish all things outside his sophisticated approval. The guy that makes Newt Gingrich sound like William F. Buckley and look like Fred Astaire is perhaps (and thankfully) too obscure to need no introduction. That puke’s name is Bill Maher. He doesn’t come over the airwaves unbeckoned any longer. One must volunteer and PAY to hear his belchings and (ugh) witness his hijinx but the world where objectionable persons or material could be quarantined to channels you don’t watch is long, long gone. The media paddle-mixer is always running, in this instance drawing in a drop of Maher from the twitterverse and presenting it as News on par with the demise of Kim Jong-Il. We refer, of course to The Tweet Heard ’round The World! (although they all are) “Wow, Jesus just f**ked #TimTebow bad! And on Xmas Eve!”
This bit of ecstasy was precipitated by Tebow’s Broncos getting a stiff (though far from historic) shellacking at what Maher seems to think is an ecclesiastically significant moment. He would deny that HE thinks so, pro forma. This is what they call “satire” which seems often to mean little more than a bit of mockery that needs explaining. Maher appropriates what he THINKS Tebow and his numberless co-religionists consider significant. And that IS comical, certainly. As everyone knows Christmas is a fraud. The historical figure Jesus of Nazareth was not born on December 25th and even if he were it is unlikely in the extreme that there would be picturesque snow drifts around his place of birth in Bethlehem. The date comes from various pagan traditions and in any event, whatever the virtues of Christian teachings or that old malcontent’s brave acceptance of execution by torture, there was no divinity in Christ because there is no divinity in anything. There is no such thing as “Divine” as there is no such man as Santa Claus.
These are hard truths that Maher is selling (yes, literally selling) as an alternative to what he describes as malign self-deceptions. An opposing case is difficult to construct though many a sucker is enticed into doing so on Maher’s home turf. What it always comes down to is Faith, a term that draws Maher’s hole into its most patently vile smirk and brings the howl of hungry cur from his smug audience in studio or at home. 0.2 cheers for Maher though. While an obnoxious antagonist, and far from an Equal Opportunity Offender, unlike nearly any other public figure you could name, he does have critical words for islam. Not merely does he apply the same skepticism to Mohammed as he does to Christ, which would be remarkable enough, he also sees that even if the full-blown atheist case is empirically true, still there is much to prefer in a Christian neighborhood over a Muslim one. And he does venture into the lion’s lair. While he is justly avoided by serious news shows due to his serial vulgarity on live broadcasts, he is routinely found before hostile questioners. Famously he took on Keith Ellison, the out-and-proud Muslim member of the House from Minnesota. Ellison cried. But foundationally Maherism still falters as it is based on a derisive dismissal of Faith as revealing of anything other than a psychological state, perhaps beneficial but dangerously blinkered. But that too, is Faith.
Like all sophisticates, Maher bases his objections to Faith on a Socratic framework. The only true knowledge lies in knowing that you know nothing. Now, that is not an absolute nothing but a relative nothing. As the Greeks figured out that wherever the sun is, it is so far away that its light is functionally parallel across the entire earth, and therefore the size of the earth can be construed through it, so are we all functionally equally ignorant since not the most genius of us could hope to know the tiniest fraction of what there IS to know. Principled claims to ignorance are only a superficial part of Maherism, however. Like a baseline coach who signals a pitch or play, but then must disguise that signal in a pantomime of counter-signals, so does Maher always claim a purity of skepticism and willingness to entertain even the Gods of Aristotle if only one would speak up. But if that were so his protestations would be based in humility and self-examination rather than the arrogant, bilious rage that is his bread and butter. There HAS been a certified miracle in the land though. As is the nature of twitter, this could change any minute, but as of now the stunning come-from-behind win by the Broncos in overtime, producing an odd confluence of numerical improbabilities has left Bill Maher…. speechless.
It’s not quite the loaves and the fishes but it will do. Could it be that somewhere Bill Maher is wrestling with a headache? If it has kept him from his smartphone, it must be a doozy. It is now a historical fact as much as the inflation rate in Weimar Germany that Tebow threw for 316 yards including the Hail Mary capper. This was the result of 10 completions, likewise giving him a pass yardage average of 31.6. Naturally any ten pass game would produce the same result, but if the universe IS, as Maher (but not Socrates, BTW) claims nothing more than so many tiny billiard balls still bouncing about from the break, isn’t this… curious? Those who make sports statistics their daily bread can say, so I will merely ask, what are the odds of any particular three-digit number coming up in this context? What are the odds of a ten-pass game? If the Faith of Tebow is meaningless outside the psychological advantages of a supernatural cheerleader then we must see this sort of thing time and again, right? Or maybe Tebow, whether consciously or not, has perpetrated a fraud? But that would take genius and skill nearly god-like in scope and up until now, his talents have been highly suspect. It is his showboating piety that draws the fans (more fools they) and allows a subpar quarterback to claim a position he has not earned and should not have. This was the chant which I transmit only with the observation that such complaints were made of Donovan McNabb and Michael Vick but were dismissed as mere bigotry. Like last year’s investment advice, these pronouncements are currently subject to review.
Now Tebow is getting HIS review and the reviews are good. It may well be that Maher is playing a little media scamola of his own. Perhaps he is not particularly hostile to Tebow The Phenomenon but is hitching his wagon to it as court jester. His silence speaks against it though. Is he feverishly but privately trying to brush up on his long-lost mathematics skills to figure out, man, just how much of a long-shot was this? And if the rain of 316s is to be dismissed in the game stats, are the ratings, which drew a 31.6 share also to be ashcanned? Not likely. If Maher had a Holy Book it would come out weekly and be the Nielsen’s. But mathematics, the language of the ancient Greeks, so much revered by the brainy secularists, has other questions for the Big Bangers. In the so-called Intelligent Design field you will find questions based on biochemistry and brain science that reveal, as far as we know now, the emergence of Life is so astronomically unlikely as to be impossible. The development of that wet, repository of consciousness between your ears, likewise is so complex it makes the rest of our knowledge a mere dustmote against Mount Ararat against a neutron star. Wouldn’t a genuinely skeptical, as opposed to opportunistically credulous gnome like Maher have to at least admit that what is unseen is far larger than the seen or the seeable? Once such an admission is made the slippery slope has been mounted. Now we must discuss and contest; what is the nature of this “unseen” scene? What is it made of? What does it do? Does it impact our measurable reality? None of these questions have proven answerable in the same way to all people but all the combatants claim Faith, the Evidence of Things Unseen in the end and craft their absurd rituals and myths from that resource. Perhaps somewhere in a posh hermitage Bill Maher is pondering these questions and staring, staring, staring at that 31.6 share, as if something, somewhere KNEW that he could easily dismiss the numbers from the game but THIS seems aimed squarely at an Audience of One. The secularist conclusion is obvious: yes the universe is indifferent but is indifferent to me with special malice and certainty.
Or put another way, God is pissed with ME, Bill Maher. Not too much though. Certainly we will patch it up.
bull-gator| 1.12.12 @ 10:12AM
time for a nap
MM| 1.12.12 @ 10:48AM
Time for your meds.
megapotamus| 1.12.12 @ 12:01PM
Yes, that was lengthy and I apologize. I would have linked to it but the AmSpec spambots would not take it, even as my "website". I find this curious since purveyors of discount socks and printable coupons seem to be able to evade them. For the original, which includes relevant links search "when falls coliseum" and maybe "maher" or "tebow". Or "watson" if you care to see the prattlings of the last few months.
Jim Hart| 1.12.12 @ 9:12AM
After a rash of crotch-grabbing TD celebrations in the NFL lately, I too had started my own boycot. The NFL needs more men such as Tebow to restore some dignity to the game. I wish him well and will be watching again.
Lee Schafer| 1.12.12 @ 9:19AM
We praise Tebow and many stand in awe. But in reality we all can be just like Tim Tebow. There is nothing unusual or special about Tebow. All he does is get his priorities straight and he has totaly surrendered himself to Christ. Wonder what this nation, this world would look like if all of us proclaiming christians would just do what Tebow has done, surrender to Christ and give Him credit for everything.
Tebow is the example of what can be accomplished and what God expects to be accomplished. Why don't we stop talking about it and just do it.
tadcf| 1.12.12 @ 9:21AM
Just because he makes an open demonstration of his faith in a mythological god?
DTOM| 1.12.12 @ 9:39AM
Just keep hoping He doesn't stop believing in you, small mind.
AhiaGuy| 1.12.12 @ 9:39AM
No, Tad, because of the exemplary life he leads in service to a Living God.
...which you would do well to emulate.
Maddox| 1.12.12 @ 11:43AM
Tad, the point is Tebow's words of faith and thanks stand above the lewd behavior of other athletes and encourage us all to be better people.
Lee Schafer| 1.12.12 @ 1:06PM
Tebow believes in something greater than himself or his government.
By doing that, he takes responsibility for his own actions, he doesn't force anyone to believe or give. what he believes and how he lives his life as long as he is not breaking laws should be of no concern to you. The fact that you would even comment on such a thing shows you are either jealous or ignorant of what Tebow has.
The truth is that what Tebow has is free to all mankind.
Occam's Tool| 1.12.12 @ 2:07PM
No. Because of what that faith makes him do for his fellow man.
Stephen| 1.14.12 @ 2:07AM
Yes, it's not something to be proud of for anyone. America is still quite backward when it comes to dispensing with the nonsense of ancient fables.
Mike M| 1.12.12 @ 9:43AM
Alas, if only our dear leader...the self proclaimed "christian" Barack Obama, was such as Mr. Tebow, we would have no problems.
VonMisesJr| 1.12.12 @ 9:52AM
The leftg chides Tim Tebow because he does not believe in false gods and he takes personal responsibility for his life.
The left believes in collectivism, so a collective prayer in Islamic fashion would be acceptable. Or if he chanted "Obama, Obama, Obama," and worshiped their false god, he would be a hero. If he had just done great things for their collective souls, and told them he advanced their collective salvation, he might be their god.
Beer f.m.h.| 1.12.12 @ 9:56AM
Mr. Tyrrell has once again sent me scurrying to the dictionary, this time to look up "frotteur." The words he finds in his comprehensive dictionary of sexual deviancy never ceeases to amaze!
VBMax| 1.12.12 @ 10:11AM
Thanks for reminding me to look that up myself :)
megapotamus| 1.12.12 @ 11:56AM
Bob is a walking, writing thesaurus. "Frot" is an excellent G-rated swear word and yes, the act itself is quite comical! Look it up but be prepared for disgust and hilarity.
Harry | 1.12.12 @ 10:02AM
I am grateful for a person like Tim Tebow who is my brother in Jesus Christ for all eternity. He shows a jaded world what it is like to live as a Christian man and puts to shame those who do not know or refuse to believe in the Living God.
This world should be grateful as well for such a man who loves people because he loves Christ. There are many in this world who do not stand before our young people as examples of what their lives should be and reflect. God Bless, Tim, I hope he will reflect his Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Tina B| 1.12.12 @ 10:05AM
Yuck, I suppose soon we'll be changing the law to legalize and encourage this little deviancy too? Good luck on the subways folks.
Ken (Old Texican| 1.12.12 @ 10:09AM
Tim and I have no "faith".
We have merely met Jesus Christ via The Holy Spirit Jesus promised us...uh 2000 years after they killed Him...and three days after He began explaining to His disciples who he REALLY was.
Atheists on the other hand have NOT met Him...yet...but they will.
Heck, that is why the Gideons put Bibles in hotel rooms.
I ROTFL when I hear or read ignoramuses talk about "undetectable myths".
Well...one can't sense gravity either...just the effects of gravity.
But you know, many atheists surely can detect Evil. Why won't they try to detect GOOD.
I pray for them.
Margie| 1.12.12 @ 3:12PM
"And without faith it is impossible to please Him. For whoever would draw near to God must believe that He exists and that he rewards those who seek Him." Heb. 11:16.
"He who speaks the truth gives honest evidence, but a false witness utters deceit." Prov. 12:17.
You have no faith, not have you provided your honest evidence of the accusations you brought against me here.
That equals Reprobate.
Tom| 1.12.12 @ 4:41PM
Margie, take your whiny ass elsewhere.
Margie| 1.12.12 @ 11:42PM
Take yours elsewhere, Tommy. I am not going anywhere.
If you don't like it, leave.
Margie| 1.13.12 @ 1:35PM
By the way, Catholic Troll, did you know that Jesus commands you to repent and believe HIS Gospel???
George Collins| 1.12.12 @ 10:30AM
Tebow is a great guy, but there are many players in the NFL with a deep faith and love of Christ. More power to them. I regularly attend the Gospel concert on the Friday night before the Super Bowl in the host city and it is very inspirational.
GoldenKnight87| 1.12.12 @ 10:37AM
Bravo for the column, Emmett, but you left out the note about Tebow taking a girl to her prom as she has been recovering from some serious illness. Can't remember her name, but I remember seeing the pictures - you can't fake something like that. He's the real deal.
Tina B| 1.12.12 @ 10:39AM
How cool, and how does one find that Gospel concert?
Oldefarte| 1.12.12 @ 10:54AM
There is goodness and decency in life....now if same could possibly be extrapolated to the white house, to Hollywood, to academia, etc. But as Dandy Don once sang: IF IF'S AND BUT'S WERE CHERRY AND NUTS, WE'D ALL HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!
k962| 1.12.12 @ 10:59AM
Too bad Bill Maher again is the idiot of the week! Thanks Tebow!
Citizen Jerry| 1.12.12 @ 11:01AM
Devout Christians have made non-believers uncomfortable throughout history. Like Mark Twain said, few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.
Derek Leaberry| 1.12.12 @ 11:08AM
I heartily approve Tim Tebow's exploits against the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was aided by Ike Taylor's chickenhearted attempt of a tackle. Had Taylor sacrificed his body, the Bronco with the bizarre first name would have not scored.
Con Chef (NB) | 1.12.12 @ 11:32AM
Tomlin said yesterday that "change would be in the air" during this offseason. Things are about to change here in "Da Burgh."
Derek Leaberry| 1.12.12 @ 11:40AM
As a Redskin fan, I envy that the Steelers don't have a multitude of holes to fill like we do in Washington. The Steelers should make top picks in the defensive backfield(the best cover corner at number one) and add depth to both lines. The 'skins will need two drafts to even consider itself a playoff contender.
W| 1.12.12 @ 4:16PM
Steelers need offensive linemen. Ben won't last after the beating he took this year if it continues.
Then we need defensive linemen because our entire starting line missed the Tebow game.
Con Chef (NB) | 1.12.12 @ 11:31AM
I've loved this kid since he played at Florida. And I'm a Vols fan, for G*d's sake! Hell, I still hate Spurrier. Why did I like this kid? Not so much for his outspoken pride of his religion, which is notable enough in this day & age where people are gutted for such things. What I really dug about his is the WAY he played the game. He broke Emmit Smith's rushing record at Florida as a SOPHOMORE QUARTERBACK, for G*d's sake!
Now that he's in the playoffs, his detractors are strangely silent. After he beat the "Stillers" last week with the long ball that he apparently learned to throw in ONE WEEK, I don't hear Merrill Hodge's big mouth running anymore. And the whole arguement that the game has progressed past running quarterbacks is BS. Last I checked, the idea was still to win/score points, to hit someone & be able to TAKE a hit. All things that Tebow can do quite well. I said it from the day he was drafted:
This is the type of kid who, if you told him he couldn't do something, would either prove you wrong by doing it 20 times better than originally expected, or die trying. He'll be a great success as a QB.
As for those who get all pissy about his touting of his faith, until those people start getting pissed about every OTHER player who points their finger skyward after a great play, or takes a knee in the endzone, I don't want to hear jack shat from that crowd. You people are a joke.
The reason they REALLY hate Tebow? He's a walking pro LIFE choice advertisement.
LisaP| 1.15.12 @ 12:33AM
Praise The Lord for truth well written! The abundantly blessed Tim Tebow is a wonderful antidote to the boorish professional athletes of our present time.
Gene| 1.12.12 @ 11:34AM
Years ago, cynical columnists wrote about a man named Lou Gherig. Unlike his colorful team-mate, Ruth, he did not drink all night, run around with loose women, and party until he dropped. He played ball, gave the best he had, and at the end of the day, he went home to his wife. Boring stuff. But he will be remembered for it. The cynics of yesteryear tore apart a movie called "It's a Wonderful Life". THEY are all forgotten and the movie lives on,..... and on.... and on. 0:-D
fmm| 1.12.12 @ 11:46AM
One point: the closest thing we can experience on earth to eternity is not anything related to a game, but a government program.
George Collins| 1.12.12 @ 11:46AM
Hi Tina, Go to www.superbowlgospel.com and you can see the line up for this year in Indianapolis. It really is a great event and is always in a smaller venue near the site of the game. This year at Clowes Hall on the Butler U. campus.
I remember in Miami several years ago, Cedric the Entertainer emceed, and Hezekiah Walker, Yolanda Adams and Patti Labelle just brought the house down. Many players from the New Orleans Saints took the stage and testified about their involvement in the rebuilding of homes and churches in New Orleans, something that was never covered in the media. Tony Dungy talked about losing his son.
In the midst of all this, John Elway (GM of the Denver Broncos and former Hall of Fame quarterback) was invited to the stage, and he proceeded to introduce his new furniture line that was being sold at Walmart or some other big retailer. It was embarrassing! What a jerk. He looked so small and stupid, and completely out of place. It would be like someone doing the same during Sunday worship. This is the same John Elway who spent the whole season this year second guessing Tebow and calling out Tebow shortcomings to the press.
Anyway, I highly recommend the show. It's a great kick off to Super Bowl weekend.
Paul from SA| 1.12.12 @ 11:57AM
ESPN sucks.
I used to hate Tim Tebow, at first, because the staff at ESPN was totally in love with the guy, claiming he's the best college football player -- ever, a sure first round draft pick.
Then they found out Tebow is Christian, pro-life and conservative. In one day, the staff at ESPN turned against him, questioning whether he's [corrupt and inferior].
They tried and tried and tried to get everybody to hate Tim Tebow. They spread negativity. Others joined in. They said Christians are full of hatred, that conservatives are evil, that Tim Tebow is a joke.
Well, the joke is on ESPN. The man they tried to ruin is the most popular player in the entire NFL.
The other day while watching a high school football game in Texas, after a kid scored a TD, the entire team ran to the corner of the endzone and dropped to one knee -- and prayed. They had obviously been practicing it.
ESPN sucks.
Paul from SA| 1.12.12 @ 12:01PM
Rush has said it many times.
Most players, coaches, fans and owners are conservatives.
Most sports writers, commenters and analysts on TV, like most journos, are anti-conservative. They use their jobs for political persuasion.
megapotamus| 1.12.12 @ 2:23PM
Yes, not "Liberal" foremost, but anti-conservative. Perhaps the term Anti-Con could penetrate and adhere to this crowd that cannot openly claim what they are for, only what they revile.
David| 1.12.12 @ 12:31PM
I will be pulling for Denver....................after Houston. Would love to see a Houston-Denver matchup for the AFC Championship.
Ken (Old Texican| 1.12.12 @ 12:49PM
Well, David...
If Denver beats Houston with 316 yards passing...then I gotta' believe Tim is anointed.
Can you honestly believe Tebow beat the Steelers with John 3:16. Cool huh?
PS; don't switch channels until the last whistle blows....heh
eddie the geek| 1.12.12 @ 12:53PM
Given that Tebow must plat AT New England against Tom Brady in a hostile environment, in biting cold and wind, I think perhaps Romans 3:16 is a better indication of what his 316 yards passing might mean.
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 4:37PM
Ken:
That would truely be a wet fleece.
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 4:40PM
BTW, it would be great to see Houston win. Not since the days of Bum Phillips have they made such a showing, and he had Earl Campbell.
Dan| 1.12.12 @ 12:41PM
I am reading a bood called Great men Bow Down. The picture of George Washington on the cover bears a striking resemblance to Tim Tebow, on one knee, head bowed. And he beat my Steelers.
Dan| 1.12.12 @ 12:44PM
S/b book not bood and Men s/b capitilized....dang fat fingers....always preview befoe you send...duh
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 4:38PM
Dan:
Check out the Frieberg painting "Prayer at Valley Forge"
Smithy| 1.12.12 @ 12:46PM
The definitive article on Tim Tebow has already been written by Paul Kersey:
http://takimag.com/article/the.....z1jGckmOGE
And at Vdare, where the Spectator's own James Antle attacked Kersey:
http://www.vdare.com/letters/w.....ey-replies
Smithy| 1.12.12 @ 12:47PM
But perhaps the most important on Tebow is this article by Kersey, which links Duke Hate to Tebow Hate (white athletes aren't supposed to succeed anymore)
http://stuffblackpeopledontlik.....w-era.html
Ken (Old Texican| 1.12.12 @ 12:53PM
Hey Smithy...
Baylor quarterback 3-G just won the Heisman. He is black...and a Christian too.... and says so.
He thanks God every day for his knees surviving.
Margie| 1.13.12 @ 1:39PM
Christians don't lie, they don't bear false witness against a sister.
And then pretend to be a Christian!
"And you shall not bear false witness
against your neighbor." Deut. 5:20.
When are you going to REPENT??
MST| 1.18.12 @ 10:34AM
I am black and I really like Tim Tebow, and I know many other black people who do as well. The two websites you linked to constantly demonize black people, but you don't "win" on this one.
eddie the geek| 1.12.12 @ 12:50PM
Is it not implicit in Tebow's thanking the Lord as his teammate ran toward the endzone for the winning score that the Lord is picking winners and losers? Does Tebow really think the Lord cares who wins a football game? I thought so too when I was his age. Now it's wonderful for Tebow to glorify the Lord for the abilities that he has been given, but it's over the line to thank the Lord for a winning touchdown. Does the Lord love the Steelers' defensive backs any less? I think not.
That Tebow is not ashamed to publicly proclaim his faith is a wonderful thing. Unfortunately, he is not a good passer of the football, not as good as any other quarterback in the league, his Steelers heroics notwithstanding.
Ken (Old Texican| 1.12.12 @ 12:58PM
Hey, Geek,
Tebow also thanks God after a loss. "Father, thank you for reminding me that I ain't perfect. Please let my teammates forgive me for letting them down."
Gary| 1.12.12 @ 12:59PM
I don't think Tebow believes the Lord cares about who wins a football game, he is merely expressing thanks for his success or good fortune. People say grace to thank God for their blessings, not because they think God frets over every meal they eat. They, and Tebow, are merely thanking God for the good that happens in their life, and similarly accept the bad with grace, dignity, and humility, the latter being a quality sorely missing in society today.
Gary| 1.12.12 @ 12:53PM
It is amazing how Tebow gets knocked for expressing his religious views in public when many in the public eye wear their politics on their sleeve in the entertainment field and incorporate them into their movies, songs, plays, and comedy and are praised for such. Secularists, atheists, agnostics, who dominate entertainment, despise religion, especially Christianity. (unless it's a black person or Muslim showing their religion) It seems that all beliefs no matter how foolish merit respect, EXCEPT Christianity.
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 1:24PM
Gary;
Did not "The Greatest" Muhammad Ali receive much praise for his outspoken Moslem Faith and his constant praise of Allah in the public square?
KennesawJack| 1.12.12 @ 8:30PM
You have to remember he coupled that faith, when he first converted, to a dislike for his country. Being muslim and hating America is a very in vogue thing to be and do.
Big Jav| 1.12.12 @ 1:06PM
'Thank you, God, for Tim Tebow'
...amen, amen, and AMEN!!!
Charles Carter| 1.12.12 @ 1:12PM
I loved your letter and I have been reading your pub for quite a while. While Tiger Woods was running with Michael Jordan he should have been looking for Tim Tebow. He life would be wholely different today. God definitely listens to the pleadings of Tim Tebow as he is touched by God.
Whether he wins or looses in the end he will be the big winner.
People like Bradshaw have criticised him as has Charles Barkley. They are jealous not of his atheletic prowess but of his incredible popularity.
Tim Tebow would rather not be so popular as he is a very humble person and not one to be thrust in the limelight. His accusers are just the opposite. Slur Charles Barkley loves the camera and the limelight although people would laugh at him and not necessarily with him, unbeknownst to him of course. Bradshaw was one of the slowest starting quarter backs that ever lived as it took him at least 5 years before he matured as a quarter back.
Great Article!!!!!!
People that dispise Tim Tebow dispise him for his religion not his pseudo lack of football talent.
John Walsh| 1.12.12 @ 1:12PM
I think Tim Tebow's humble and grateful expressions of his personal beliefs are beautiful. I would think them just as beautiful if he were a Jew, a Buddhist, a Muslim or even an atheist.
Ken (Old Texican| 1.12.12 @ 1:23PM
Walsh,
open your eyes, idiot. Tebow thanks our Creator.
O thus be it ever when freemen shall stand Between their lov'd home and the war's desolation! Blest with vict'ry and peace may the heav'n rescued land Praise the power that hath made and preserv'd us a nation! Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, And this be our motto - "In God is our trust," And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave."
Duh!
Al Adab| 1.12.12 @ 2:39PM
Great choice Ken. The 4th verse has long been my favorite.
RCV| 1.12.12 @ 3:49PM
Mine as well. My mother used to sing it with me at breakfast when I was in grade school.
Dr McBurney | 1.12.12 @ 1:29PM
Well said Mr. Tyrell! Your tale of wayward NFL disinterest mirrors mine completely. As does your journey back with Tim Tebow.
Thank God indeed! And thank you Bob and Pam Tebow for not only keeping the faith, but proving that we can, and must pass it on to our progeny
Ground Control| 1.12.12 @ 1:35PM
I may have to get a Tebow Bronco's Jersey (Orange, of course) and embroider "John 3:16" on it. :-)
Joe D.| 1.12.12 @ 1:41PM
Very good, Mr. Tyrell. I have not been a Tebow fan since his college days. In college and the pros he plays for the enemy team. I, like you, have alot of respect for him for the way he carries his life both on and off the field.
And he is learning and getting better on the field.
Joseph Cox | 1.12.12 @ 1:46PM
Demaryius as a noble Roman name? When? Where? In Camden NJ? I didn't know the Romansa spoke ebonics. And what makes people who cheer horrific human slaughters in an arena noble? Get a life dude
ONTIME| 1.12.12 @ 2:01PM
Tebow's religious acknowledgment is of little consequence to the game as a whole, it is if anything in direct conflict with the endzone celebrations. A great number of these athletes are religious and are unafraid to credit thier maker not with their success but with the credit of giving them the ablilty to perform and be of value...what is wrong with that?
Were Tebow a muslim and interuppted the game in order to fullfill his religious obligation I wonder what all these detractors would say then and if they would make the loud offensive noise they revel in now. This is kind of like the TV you watch, if you don't like, "turn it off."
Mark Anderson| 1.12.12 @ 2:01PM
Mr. Tyrrell,
I've liked Tebow for years, being from Florida, however I like him for his football. I'm not a moral
posturing person like you. I'll pray for you.
cowgirl| 1.12.12 @ 3:05PM
It is easy to be bad. It is easy to lie, steal, cheat, rape, murder, to covet they neighbor's good/wife (think Occupy Movement) to not honor your mother and father, to support immoral practices such as abortion and gay marriage/sex. This is easy because all of these behaviors are based on selfishness and lack of self-control.
But it hard to be good. It is hard to give Glory and Honor to God. It is hard to obey Jesus Christ who gave his life so that we imperfect humans can receive salvation and be free of death. It is hard to love they neighbor even when they are unlovable. It is hard to follow the steps of my savior Jesus Christ. Every day I fail. No day is perfect.
God's Word tell us that if we honor and obey him, he will pour blessings out to us beyond belief.
Tim Tebow has obviously been blessed. There is no question that God has found favor with him. Yes he does have fame and fortune will come his way. But more than anything material, Tim has peace in his heart. Tim is passing through this earth doing what he knows is right and obeying his Creator. I am sure that the most important thing in Tim's life is the peace of knowing that salvation, grace and Jesus Christ will meeting him with open arms as he passes from this life to the next.
People can talk all they want about Tim Tebow. I am sure it doesn't bother him since he knows where he will be going and none of the people talking about him will have any say in the matter.
Praise God for Tim Tebow.
Cool independence| 1.14.12 @ 7:00AM
I'm gay, and blanket statements that attack homosexuals as "selfish" and having a "lack of self control" are ignorant and are a distraction. Ironic that you speak out one side of your mouth in talking about Tebow and fellow Americans loving their neighbors, yet you make an ignorant charge against a minority of the American population in order to praise the good Christian that is Tim Tebow. I don't care if you don't support gay marriage/sex. Take your own advice and love your neighbor, and quit passing judgment on gays while railing against people that pass judgment on Tebow. Both are ignorant, wrong, and fail to enrich intelligent conversation about the merits of Tim Tebow or the existence of gays in culture that are not, as you say, "selfish" and "having a lack of self control".
alex parkhurst| 1.12.12 @ 3:28PM
Mr. Tebow will speak at the local Christian School here in Kalispell, MT in March. My wife and I bought tickets this morning for the school fund raising dinner where Mr. Tebow will speak, and we bought bleacher tickets for our grand kids so they could see and hear him as well. Chance of a lifetime for our family and our little town who signed him up last year before he became famous.
I am a staunch Green Bay Packer fan, but it sure is fun watching the Broncos this year.
Brian| 1.12.12 @ 3:58PM
Save your breath on prayers for us.
I dare say there is a reason we don't utter them ourselves.
Perhaps while you were watching the white fellas on the field you failed to notice the other players, the black players.
They are equally as important to each teams sucess as the coaches will tell you.
The quarterback (thats what Tebow is) doesn't get the ball without the center.
And the guy who runs it sometimes gets credit too.
These players are also religious yet they don't seem to be an inspiration to you.
Tebow is anti-controversial, he makes happy 90% of americans (who consider themselves believers).
Compared with other countries that figure is astonishingly high.
Before you crown Tebow the savior, look at all those folks who believe but don't recieve the celebration that your lavishing on TT.
(Mrs.) Dorothy Robbins | 1.12.12 @ 4:05PM
Thank you for editing out comments that should be; mine had a big mistake in it!)
Now to give credit where credit is due: Your article on Tom Tebow. Some of the best reading by Christians is on your site. It's great to realize there are places where Christians may express their thoughts without being down-graded even when, as was done re. this article, they write well. Your "American Spectator " is an excellent source for those who appreciate good journalism, including the truth about our country and what is actually happening today. Keep up the good work. I like to tell my students that, "One becomes more creative when one becomes more like their Creator ." Journalists, also, may do that and even ones enemies must acknowledge when excellence is exhibited, as it is by you and your staff. God's success continue with you!
Rob| 1.12.12 @ 5:16PM
Great article. If there were more people in the world like Tim Tebow, the world would be a better place.
Like Mr. Tyrrell, I am inspired by Tebow. And from afar I have a degree of admiration for such a fine, upstanding young man.
Tim Tebow is the personification of many good things: perseverence, moral rectitude, faith, courage, humilty -- and I could go on. He is not someone to be criticized, he should be commended.
GO BRONCOS! GO TEBOW!
Alborn| 1.12.12 @ 5:31PM
I agree that Tim Tebow is good for America and the NFL. I even watched the Broncos last week and I never watch any games but the Super Bowl and that is for the commercials. Christianity whether you like it or not is the foundation of this great nation. Tim is a leading voice of the Christians that are standing up in this country. The Charles Barkley's and the Sugg's that want to speak ill of a GOOD MAN need to take a look inside at where they are lacking to feel the need to speak ill of him. Tim will mean more to the world than sports every will. Hey, he already is.
joesixpack31| 1.12.12 @ 5:32PM
Many folks resent any athlete that expresses gratitude to his/her "creator" for the gifts that enable them to perform at the level they do. Tim Tebow is very up front about giving God credit for any success he has on the playing field. This triggers the hatred of the satanly inspired who want to see him fail. Notice the relative silence of the mainstream media "satanists" after last sundays game in which Tebow demonstrated not only his ability to scramble but a "maturing" pass throwing capability which netted the Broncos 316 yards in the air.
Dolores A. Narducci| 1.12.12 @ 6:00PM
Why can a group of muslims cause a scene in an airport kneeling to allah get away with it and all
Tebow does is kneel on one knee, not disrupting anyone or anything and gets criticized for it:
(because Obama is a muslim and they can get away with anything. Dolores
Rev| 1.14.12 @ 2:39AM
Yeah, those darn pork-eating, beer drinking, Christian church attending "Muslims". And yeah, Michelle Obama REALLY seems to be living under Sharia Law, eh?
Wouldn't your baby Jesus be proud to see politically brainwashed sheep spew mindless drivel in his name?
As one of your fellow sheep said:
"Do you think you can escape the Judgment of God??"
Kingofthenet| 1.12.12 @ 6:04PM
What we don't like is the implication that his Success is ANYWAY divinely assisted, 'our' Non-Existent Yahweh didn't help 6 million Jews in the slightest, and I doubt he is a Broncos Fan.
Nick| 1.12.12 @ 7:34PM
Hey Kook!
I'm still waiting for your answer as to when, exactly, a fetus (unborn baby in Latin) becomes a child.
You are an expert on the subject, no?
With God all things r possible| 1.13.12 @ 8:35PM
"It is better to be a poor but wise youth than an old and foolish king who refuses all advice."
- King Solomon (a real king), Ecclesiastes 4:13
Kingofthenet| 1.12.12 @ 6:10PM
I am personally gonna 'Honor' the First Defensive player who wipes that smurk off his face, and sends him off the field in a cart.
Con Chef (NB) | 1.13.12 @ 8:59AM
Lemme guess. You were one of those dorky kids that used to get stuffed in lockers by jocks or had the object of your affection spurn your geekiness for the far more popular jock.
With God all things r possible| 1.13.12 @ 8:38PM
"The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men."
-King David (a real king), Psalm 12:8
Rev| 1.14.12 @ 2:36AM
Does quoting from a book about talking snakes get your point across much???
I always preferred "Curious George". Monkeys rock!
Rich Mouk| 1.12.12 @ 7:20PM
He believes, he acts accordingly. Those who don't believe act accordingly, too, to their discredit. I'm with him.
Richard Baker| 1.12.12 @ 7:22PM
How exactly did a story about Tim Tebow blur into a discussion about these young Marines? Agree with Bob Tyrrell completely about this football player. How far we've come from Norman Rockwell's picture of the two guys respectfully watching the lady and kid praying in the restaurant.
Ken (Old Texican| 1.12.12 @ 7:25PM
Ass of the net,
of course you want Tim to fail...and get disabled. Heh, that is who you are.
You have never accomplished anything...worm and you want everyone in the ditch with you.
Can't you even spell "smirk" correctly?
Hey, dumbass...Tebow won the heisman trophy!
...for excellence on the field. What have you accomplished...except ankle biting?
Margie| 1.13.12 @ 1:43PM
Maybe he's accomplished about as much as you have by marrying into your wife's talents and business??
When are you going to repent for bearing false witness against me, and turning others against me here, especially the unbelievers whom you have turned some against the Gospel of Jesus Christ by so doing?
Do you think you can escape the Judgment of God??
You claimed you had "proof" of your accusations in the form of e mails. I told you repeatedly to post them, and then you changed your story, because you're a liar, and have no such e mails.
"He who speaks the truth gives honest evidence, but a false witness utters deceit." Prov. 12:17.
You are a Reprobate.
Rev| 1.14.12 @ 2:34AM
"Do you think you can escape the Judgment of God??"
~~~
Wow, what a way to make a complete joke out of religion.
Gotta love the internet. Really shows what a hopeless animal we are. Perhaps we deserve being in fear of an all-seeing, all-knowing dictator. Some people seem unable to function in modern society on their own.
More tragic is the way some folks seem to have no moral fiber beyond being a bitter, persecuted "insert religion they were born into here".
Sad to see how far pagan religions have devolved...
POST American| 1.12.12 @ 9:46PM
----------------BOTTOMLESS LINE--------------------
"--Fashion for the women, and spectator
sports to co-opt and control the men.
H G Wells laid this out and discussed it
in detail over a century ago. And so they
built the 'arenas' ---from the god 'Aran'
---the idol Joe six pack spills his power
to."
In other words ----rectum worship uber
alles.
So keep on goin'!
-------------porn n' wampum n' bisphenol A
-------------------------just keep a goin'!
---------------HUAC/ Nuremberg 2012----------------
M.D.| 1.12.12 @ 10:11PM
My heart nearly leapt as the TV zoomed-in to reveal members of the Stanford football team kneeling in prayer before the game. The sight of these praying men--teammates of friends of mine--left me nearly overcome with emotion, for I was a young new Christian, and I was proud of them.
One year, sometime later, I read that someone from an opposing team commented that the players of Stanford were the finest gentlemen they had ever played against. I wasn’t surprised. I knew some if not many were kind, brotherly Christians.
That was many years ago. Whichever team won, whichever lost, is for sports history buffs. But the light that shown from those godly lives is the kind of light that I suspect God wants to shine from every person. It’s the kind of light that strengthens others’ faith, which sets men aright, and gently guides to a safe place all those who would never know that God is good except for the faith and kindness displayed by folks who speak of Him openly and emulate Him as best they can. They make their daily lives an offering of praise.
I’m convinced that the men who prayed on the athletic field that day were not praying to win a football game. No. They may have been "playing" a game... but they were "praying" for higher stakes than a one-shot football win.
Margie| 1.13.12 @ 1:45PM
Amen, well spoken, M.D.!!
sobe conservative| 1.12.12 @ 10:13PM
Excellent. That is the true Christian spirit. This is where the pulitzer really should be.
Millie Pogna| 1.12.12 @ 10:43PM
What a beautiful article! My family, also, has been captivated by beautiful Tim Tebow and are dedicated fans of the Broncos because of Tim!
Millie Pogna
Sardonikus| 1.13.12 @ 12:09AM
Proud Deist for Tebow! What's not to like about a guy whose mere existence pisses off the Left?
Rev| 1.14.12 @ 2:31AM
Wow, you REALLY sounds like a religious person, being nothing you said was even slightly spiritual. Back to your true religion: FauxNews, no need to make a joke out of Christ-based superstitions...
Dave| 1.13.12 @ 2:15AM
Why would anyone not like a person kneeling down on one knee over some moron shaking his ass in front of fans after scoring a touchdown?
POST American| 1.13.12 @ 5:42AM
-------------BOTTOMLESS ADDENDUM-------------
---Like we said, rectum worship while
TREASON and capstone EUGENICS
are at large, unchecked and in command.
-----------------------JUST KEEP GOIN' KIDDIES!
Edwina Cowgill| 1.13.12 @ 7:31AM
Thank you for your excellent article and for defending Tim Tebow. You are so correct in saying that anything goes on the field, unless it is an obvious gesture of Christianity. The media, for the most part, has once again selected a Christian to "throw to the lions." This time, however, I believe they've selected the wrong Christian. Tim's faith is far greater than their malicious attacks. And because of his faith and his public acknowledgement of God, God will reward and protect him.
DBJR| 1.13.12 @ 10:13AM
Great article - should mention this Tebow quote from the Steelers postgame conference - “Football is amazing, but the real win is being able to comfort a girl who’s gone through 73 surgeries and get a chance to hang out with her. That’s the biggest win of the day. That’s what I’m even more proud of.’’ - All you need to know.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....z1jLq0qWeU
Bob S| 1.14.12 @ 1:37AM
As others have said, so much for the witness of the evangelical Eric Liddel (Chariot's of Fire).
IOW modern American evangelicals need to forget about the war on Christmas, the real war against Christianity is the one against the Lord's Day/Sunday and they're on the wrong side.
Violet| 1.14.12 @ 1:43AM
I admire Tim Tebow so much for his humility and love for Christ! He is the genuine article. I am not a football fan per se, but I watched that game and the OT and was so impressed! I am watching the Broncos/Pats game and will be cheering for the Broncos and of course, Tim Tebow, who is a breath of fresh air in this crazy world.
Rev| 1.14.12 @ 1:59AM
Wow, talk about "false piety", cute little article.
Went from shallow commentary on football to shameless Christian persecution. Like you need Tebow for this drivel?
Christian quantum mechanics| 1.14.12 @ 2:01AM
Those who state hate will in honest debate will be alone after this life. I like this sight for the intellects of the sincere contributors. The secular frieks are muddling up the sight. thought rules
Rev| 1.14.12 @ 2:11AM
Tebow = hypocrite?
"And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you." (Matthew 6:5-6)
POST American| 1.14.12 @ 2:44AM
----------------BOTTOMLESS LINE--------------------
"----Sports, porn, colostomies n' wampum
--------------------------JUST KEEP ON GOING."
AGAIN, it's called 'RECTUM WORSHIP'.
Billy| 1.14.12 @ 5:39AM
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.”
-Jesus Christ.
(Matthew chapter 6 verse 4-8)
Alex| 1.14.12 @ 11:29AM
^^^this. Tebow's displays are not spontaneous; they are contrived, pre-planned, and no more noteworthy than the fools who call attention to themselves with silly dances and other gyrations.
Ken (Old Texican| 1.14.12 @ 6:39AM
Check out the painting.
http://www.americanthinker.com/cartoons/
kamanakapu| 1.14.12 @ 6:49AM
The first and most ancient question ever asked of religionist is "why can't god be seen, heard or touched?' (first asked in ancient india).
You religionist who promote this fraud have a duty to answer that question succinctly and concisely.
Harry Beadle| 1.14.12 @ 7:41AM
kamanakapu -- God has been seen, and heard, and touched, and still can be. There's an entire book dedicated to telling you how to do it. Didn't you hear?
Harry Beadle| 1.14.12 @ 7:37AM
Tebow isn't controversial. He's just normal. The "controversial" label (which comes from the Left, not Mr. T.) is another example of how we Conservatives have allowed the Left to redefine language; twist the meaning of words to suit their agenda. It's the same redefinition that makes us "racist" if we simply disagree with someone on the Left.
Cara| 1.14.12 @ 10:45AM
From where do they come? These exceptionall
young men?
Please God, protect him.
matt spitsbergen | 1.14.12 @ 10:57AM
I enjoy Tebow as well, i find myself watching broncos games and cheering for them even though i`m a cowboys fan
Alex| 1.14.12 @ 11:27AM
Tebow is an ordinary, if not marginal, NFL quarterback whose news clippings far outpace his ability. Why? For the same reason notoriety goes to a lot of other players - for calling attention to himself, albeit through premeditated public prayer as opposed to premedidated stupid touchdown dances. Tebow's gimmick, and that is what it is, is to play the god card. At every turn. As though god cares who wins a game. Because if god does care, one must ask what he has against the teams the Broncos win.
That, by the way, is another ignored component. In its rush to celebrate Tebow's anti-thug nature, the commentariat forgets football is a team game, that Denver's success is largely due to a stout defense that keeps things close enough so that all the offense has to do is be marginally effective. I'm sure Tebow is a nice young man and is sincere in his beliefs, but the lionization of him is insulting not only to his teammates but to QBs of much higher talent. More simply put, ask the other 31 general managers if they would trade their quarterback for Tebow.
Martin H. Petry | 1.14.12 @ 1:16PM
Here is my take on both Brees and Tebow. Enjoy!
http://www.usamutt.com/blog/post.asp?post_id=8938
David Nation| 1.14.12 @ 1:47PM
It's hard to imagine anything more blasphemous than thanking a supposedly all knowing, all
powerful and benevolent entity for allowing a touchdown to win a football game. How absurd you are!!
ktward| 1.14.12 @ 1:59PM
It was impossible for me to read past this bit of twaddle: "I do not care how many felons or frotteurs play the game. Now there is Tim Tebow to redeem it."
Seriously? It matters not how much corruption or crap goes on in the NFL (or sports in general), so long as there exists just one high-profile, self-righteous [if arguably humble] fundamentalist Christian knee-bender?
With such myopic commentary, it's hard to imagine why anyone values Mr. Tyrrell's opinion.
robert petersen| 1.14.12 @ 4:19PM
I'm an Atheist but I have all the respect in the world for Tebow. He is not a hypocrite and truly acts like a Christian rather than using J.C.'s name to justify their sinning. Go Timmy, Go!
Hm no| 1.14.12 @ 4:25PM
Thanks for spamming my email address with article updates that I never subscribed to.
Big Christian| 1.14.12 @ 4:27PM
God loves football! Praise the lord! Thank you for taking time to show those heathens from that other state how much more you favor Tim Tebow, because he shows you gratitude!
P.S. Stupid aetheists, the only reason he doesn't get touchdowns like this all the time is because he doesn't want to make the other team feel bad. He has God on his side so he could score every time if he wanted to, because, as I said above, GOD LOVES FOOTBALL!!!
Fred| 1.14.12 @ 6:36PM
He's not an original, he's just following along the lines of The Greatest, Muhammad Ali !
Marlene Henderson| 1.14.12 @ 7:11PM
Your article is right on the money!! Thanks for putting it in print.
POST American| 1.14.12 @ 9:26PM
---------------BLAST from the FUTURE!--------------
FOX News update, 2015:
"Well, during this halftime break, lets
go over our top stories. Those 2.5 MILLION
Red Chinese now on the ground here in
America assisting in getting things working
again seem to be pretty effective. Not only
is traffic moving in some cities, but Monsanto's
emergency food aid packages are being diligently
distributed to those in need. America, and
indeed much of the West, is climbing out from
6 months of unrest after the government
pulled the plug on the currency, along with the
electricity as restructuring proceeds. Seems
folks were already pretty upset as they dealt
with the news of 'no more pensions' delivered
just days after disclosures from the medical
authorities that the last 'free fertile' couples
had tested sterile. ---Now, let's get back to
those playoffs!"
----------------------THIS IS COMING.
veeckasinwreck| 1.15.12 @ 12:40AM
Thanks for the victory, God! Maybe you got a little a little careless in Rwanda, in Cambodia, and in Auschwitz. But when it comes to the really important stuff, like who wins my football game, you are totally hands on! I don't know what I find more appalling about Tebow's theology, its arrogance or its breathtaking stupidity. Leave it to the right wing to applaud it. Aren't you ashamed?
Vance Frickey| 1.15.12 @ 2:14AM
The strongest argument against Tebow's public prayers isn't atheistic - it's Christian - Matthew 6:5
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full." Not that Tim Tebow appears to be a hypocrite. As an adopted Denverite myself, I can't say I've heard a bad word about him even prior to his phenomenal turn-around of the Broncos this year. But the Gospel speaks pretty clearly on the subject.
Richard Baker| 1.15.12 @ 7:40AM
Vance:
He's not praying, he giving THANKS. When I thank God for my food before eating in public is that hypocritical, as well? You're listening to Margie waaay too much, methinks.
Zak Klemmer | 1.15.12 @ 11:01AM
I prefer stories like Tebow's good deeds to those of NFL players arrested for drugs & dog fighting.
nonamesplz| 1.15.12 @ 6:10PM
Cher's offspring is praised for using steroids to become a man and any comments against it are demonized. Yet Tim is ridiculed by the media and celebrities for having his own strong beliefs. Which is more normal: adding a hoohoo or thanking God!? I am so sick of the lunatic fringe media/celebrities trying to foist their idea of "normal" on the rest of us to justify their weirdness. I can't even go to a movie any longer; I won't pay another penny to watch these nuts.
Thanks Tim. Remember, they are many but WE ARE MANY MORE and we love ya.
joe| 1.15.12 @ 10:42PM
Some of us watch football to see football. We go to our own Churches to get our spirits lifted. I am a Roman Catholic. We follow our own creeds and traditions. We don't need lessons from Tim Tebow on how to live our faith, but since you are making this about religion I would like to point out that Timmy got trounced on Saturday night by a fantastic quarterback that threw five touchdowns in the first half without once making it known that his is a Roman Catholic with a similar record to Joe Montana who is a Roman Catholic with a similar record to Brett Favre who is a Roman Catholic withe a similar record to Dan Marino who is a Roman Catholic with a similar record to Roger Staubach who is a Roman Catholic. See where I am going with this. Tebow played his religion for all it was worth and got humiliated badly. Why can't we keep religion out of sports and politics because apparently Jesus loves building up evangelical politicians and smashing them to the ground when they get too big for their faith.
AVCurmudgeon| 1.16.12 @ 1:05PM
Tebow did not get humiliated. The Patriots as a team simply outplayed the Broncos as a team in every aspect of the game.
Tina B| 1.16.12 @ 5:19PM
Tebow has not asked to be the LIGHT of the football world, but a Light for Christ, who told us not to hide our lamps under a bed, but to put them on a table, to bring His Light to others: to those in darkness.
That is all Tebow is trying to do. He has been given the football platform, first on a college level and now at the pro level. If he wanted to walk away from the limelight he couldn't, because he is Tim Tebow, and not just another QB, Catholic or Protestant, religion notwithstanding. The media creates its heroes, then loves tearing them down even more.
It is now the offseason for Tim's career in the NFL, but it is never the offseason for his life's calling and he knows it better than any of us. Thank God for Tebow when he wins and when he loses. God bless the Tebows, one and all.
josh| 1.16.12 @ 10:30PM
This could've been a decent article. Too bad it ended, once again, with the Christian inferiority complex. Most Americans do like his religion. I hate to rain on your parade, but despite fox news' constant attempts to act as if Christianity is a minority religion in this country it's not. I like Tebow, and I think he's something sorely needed in the NFL. But I don't need your right wing conservative prayers. I'm not a christian, but I don't have a problem with people who are religious, so long as they let me be as well. What I like about him is that he follows through with his words. But if you want to talk football...he's not a good quarterback. He's mediocre to bad. But he has a strong will to win. Try to view him outside of the spectrum of loving his religion if you want to judge his football skills. If you can.
Seeuinoz | 1.18.12 @ 8:24PM
I don't know about thanking god for Tebow... loses 45 - 10 and only completes -9- passes... going against a prevent defense for most of the 2nd half... how the hell does that happen...
Autymn D. C. | 1.28.12 @ 2:00AM
Death to cretins and gods!
Death to freedom and the crooks, scum, and trash who tout it!
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godisimaginary.com
http://google.com/search?q="How+many+has+God+killed"
Mike Daly | 4.20.12 @ 11:55PM
Seeuinoz - it happens for several reasons -
A - Tebow cannot see the field well; he locks onto a receiver and can't scan the field - on the Demaryius Thomas touchdown against Pittsburgh he never once looked to a second read; it's how he's always played. The Patriots showed that once you take away his first read he starts panicking.
B - the Patriots mauled the Broncos offensive line and the hitting was causing Broncos turnovers. It was eerily reminiscent of the 2008 Monday Night massacre of the Broncos in Foxboro.
C - His throwing mechanics are chronically bad. He throws 250 balls in warmups because it's the only way he can get anything out of his throwing.