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The Obama Watch

No Friend of the Middle Class

By his reasoning, Obama needs to destroy the middle class in order to save it.

It's not surprising that President Obama's re-election strategy is to "cast himself as a middle class warrior." What is surprising is that he thinks he can get away with it. The fact that he actually might says less about Obama than about Americans' understanding of economics and the Republicans' particular skill at turning smart policy into stupid politics.

The obvious question when a politician wants to run as a champion of any particular group is "what has he done for that group?" So, let's think about what Obama has done for, or -- more precisely -- to, the middle class.

Unemployment, the single most important economic statistic for the middle class, spiked to over 10 percent before recently "improving" to 8.6 percent (with December data due out Friday, January 6). The last time unemployment was this high was in 1983, coming out of the Jimmy Carter recession. Under Reagan, the unemployment rate dropped 2.5 percent in one year from its peak and another full percent in the subsequent year. Under Obama, the rate has dropped only 1.5 percent in two years from its peak.

This is no accident. The slowest economic recovery in modern American history is a direct result of Obama's policies.

The administration's doomed-to-fail Keynesian economic approach is based on assuming that Americans, and especially entrepreneurs, are stupid. They trust that we don't realize that massive deficit spending now must translate into higher taxes later (and perhaps higher interest rates, though historically that connection is not as strong as one might expect).

By way of analogy: Imagine you don't have any cash, so you borrow $20 from your teenage son. You spend $10 on lunch and put the remaining $10 in your pocket. According to President Obama, you're $10 richer than you were before. And indeed you may be, but your family is $10 poorer.

Nevertheless, this is the exact sort of thinking that caused Obama and his economic team to tell us that if they were allowed to spend over a trillion dollars (including interest) of our children's future earnings, unemployment would not go over 8 percent. Instead, as Gene Epstein wrote for Barron's, "The recovery from the 2008-09 recession has been the slowest since any recession in the post-World War II era."

Epstein also notes that based on growth rates from prior severe recessions, "the recovery from the recent recession should have taken half as long" and that even calculating GDP without the impact of residential real estate (for those who want to say the real estate crash is the problem, and isn't Obama fault) this recovery "still comes up woefully short."

It's not just spending that would make the drunken sailor blush that has sapped the strength of the economic recovery. It is also every other important policy aspect of the Obama reign.

What could be worse for employment growth than health care "reform" that penalizes employers for reaching 50 employees? This is just one example of the anti-growth aspects of Obamacare, which in turn is just one, if the most important, of the job-crushing laws and regulations imposed by Obama and his radical environmentalist and union thug apparatchiks.

As investment bank UBS noted in a research report entitled "Great Suppression II: Revolt of the Employers," "Observers are gradually starting to recognize that the tax hikes and regulations emanating from Washington are frightening employers and discouraging hiring.… Rising taxes and the surge in regulation [are] suppressing what J.M. Keynes called 'animal spirits -- a spontaneous urge to action rather than inaction.' For corporations, a spate of new regulations raises the risk of investing in the U.S., delays projects that companies do wish to pursue, and raises the cost of labor relative to capital."

The National Labor Relations Board, having been overtaken by Barack Obama's recess-appointed union attorneys, is using the Board's power to inspire fear in any company which would expand into a right-to-work state. And given recent extreme aggressiveness by unions (laid perfectly bare by Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa who, talking about Tea Party activists, said that union supporters should "take these son-of-a-bitches out"), who would want to expand a business anywhere but a right-to-work state?

With his tax policy, his "signature" legislation, and his regulatory apparatus, President Obama attacks would-be job creators at every turn. Is it any wonder that our economic recovery is so slow, with the main victims being the middle class?

But harming employment is not all Obama has done and will do to the middle class. A recent study by the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB) notes that Obamacare will "impose a cumulative cost of nearly $5,000 per family by 2020" through increased health insurance costs as well as "reduc[ing] private sector employment by 125,000 to 249,000 jobs in 2021, with 59 percent of those losses falling on small business."

A report by Oliver Wyman consulting says that Obamacare's costs "will increase premiums in fully insured coverage markets by an average of 1.9% to 2.3% in 2014. The impacts generally increase over time such that we estimate by 2023, the fees will ultimately increase premiums by an average of 2.8% to 3.7%. For small group coverage, this well on average increase the cost to cover an individual by about $2,800, and a family by about $6,800 over a 10-year period, beginning in 2014."

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About the Author

Ross Kaminsky is a self-employed trader and investor and is a senior fellow of the Heartland Institute. He blogs at Rossputin.com and is the host of The Ross Kaminsky Show on Denver's NewsRadio 850 KOA on Sundays from 11 AM to 2 PM.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (279) | Leave a comment

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 6:49AM

The problem with getting American Businesses to Hire people, is made exponentially more difficult, when the people who are in Charge of the Federal Government have decided that the OPPOSITE, is what they prefer.

I don't know how many times I've written this, or if you've read it on Peter Ferrara Blog (as he likes to do a Joe Biden on me, from time to time) but; This Bunch is out to KILL the Middle Class.

Dictatorship 101: Kill the Middle Class. Show me a functioning Middle Class in one of the World's Burgeoning Worker's Paradises. Cuba. Venezuela. Zimbabwe. North Korea. It doesn't have to be a Worker's Paradise. It can be one of your Run of the Mill Banana Republics, South of the Border. They don't exist.

Dictatorships like to DICTATE things. They like to tell you what to eat, what to drive, how many kids you can have, where they can go to school, what kind of light bulbs you can buy, and how much money you can make. (They're working on the last one, as we speak.)

They like to CONTROL things. Who gets a WEAPON. Who doesn't. What WORDS are permitted. What words are not. Where BOEING can build a Plant. Where they cannot.

Over the Centuries, the Dictator has learned that TOTAL CONTROL is impossible. You just can't Control Everyone by yourself. You need help. You need Partners. People that HAVE something, that they will do anything to hang on to. Or, those who have NOTHING, and will be your friend if you give them things. Let's see. Who fits those descriptions?

The RICH. The Rich have LOTS of things. Some of them have spent their lives, EARNING what they have. Others were To the Manor Born. Doesn't matter. They want to hang on to what is theirs. Who can blame them. See how they shower their MORTAL ENEMY with Campaign Contributions. He calls them The Evil Rich. A bunch of FAT CATS. He picks up the phone, to Dick Trumpka and Andy Stern, and the Buses, filled with Obama's UNION ARMY, start rolling, to the HOMES of the Rich, for the purposes of TERRORIZING their Families.
SIEG HEIL!
So, they go along. Not entirely. They go along until they can find suitable Housing, for their Companies, in some other Country.

Then, there's the opposite side of the equation. The people who have NOTHING. For 60 Years, the Black Community has given their Votes to the Party of the KLAN. They have thrown their Support behind the Party of BULL CONNER. Of Fire Hoses, and Police Dogs. They have supported the Party of Segregated EVERYTHING, a Noose, hanging from a Tree Branch, and a BOMB thrown in to a Black Church. And for what? Because they feed them. It's like the Love one gets, from a DOG. You can treat that Dog like GARBAGE, and he'll continue to wag his tail, so long as you give him food.

That only leaves the MIDDLE. The ones who can fend for themselves. The ones with CHOICES. The Rich can't just do whatever they want. They can't go wherever they want. They're too rich. They might be Robbed, or Kidnapped. Their Children are always Targets for Kidnapping. And, the Poor can't afford many choices. The Middle Class can make choices. And therein lies the danger, for the Dictator. For, if they can choose? They may choose someone else. So, they must be eliminated.

The EPA. The NLRB. Total Support for the Unions. Obamacare. Dodd/Frank. BOEING. Open Borders. Fast and Furious. Solyndra. Stimulus/Slush Fund. Suing American States in conjunction with a Foreign Country. Keystone XL Pipeline. Drilling Moratoriums. Coal Mining Closings. On and on and on. NO JOBS.

For a Guy who's been "Focused like a Laser Beam" on Jobs, for the last 3 YEARS, he hasn't got much to show for it. But, then....That's if you're assuming that he actually WANTS people having a job.

I haven't seen any evidence of that.
Have YOU?

William Wallace| 12.30.11 @ 8:31AM

Amen Timothy. You should be writing your own column.

chuck| 12.30.11 @ 8:45AM

Screw the column, he needs to be writing stump speeches for the GOP candidates.

TLP2012!

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 9:10AM

I'm blushing.

Boar Hunter| 12.30.11 @ 5:40PM

I am writing you this in response to your encounter with those who attack you later in this forum.

If you overstated something or were really wrong about it, so what?

I say, be of good cheer! People here love you because you express so much on behalf of many of us. You know them, they are people like you who still love America!

We all make mistakes on occasion and mistake or not, you sir are an honest man who is deserving of praise for standing up for what is right and I thank you for that.

Don't allow these jackals to discourage you by attempting to discredit you over one misstatement or by taking something you write out of context.

Remember, they don't make mistakes. They openly lie.

I guess I lack the ability to articulate the question correctly, but why can't they ever acknowledge any fault with their candidates?

As an example, a guy once went into hysterics over my pointing out Obama's admitted drug use. Interestingly, Obama does not just admit past drug use, he openly boasts of it and can to this day still be seen doing so on youtube.

I once supported Perry, I still think he's a good man, but not who I want for president. Before making my decision to deny him my support, I entertained thoughts and information from a variety of sources, both pro and con.

I accept and acknowledge Bush's mistakes (the real ones) as I'm sure you do.

But Clinton or Obama made mistakes? Beatified deity status is all liberals can see, sex, drugs, lies all meaningless.

So anyway, as I was saying, there is no moral equivalency between you and this trash that would disparage you. They are merely dogs barking from behind the safety of a fence. Should you occasionally step into it, wipe their excrement from your feet and enjoy your walk. Oh and if your in the neighborhood, stop in for a beer! Excrement on your feet or not, your company is always welcome in my home.

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.31.11 @ 10:12AM

"They don't make mistakes. They openly lie."
That's an amazing statement, and it's absolutely True. You have to be Honestly putting something out there, that you Honestly Believe is the TRUTH, to be charged with "Making a Mistake". If you spout Garbage, KNOWING that it's Garbage (Purp, DRed, craig, Jackass, Clintoris, The Zohan, and RCV) then you're not making a Mistake, because you INTENDED to Mislead.
(If you're wondering why I didn't include Alan? He's not Nasty. He really believes that stuff. He believes a lot of things. He believes he's a Pretty Girl, and that's okay. I just think that he's got enough problems, without being limped in with these A-HOLES. Don't you?)

As far as them being unable, or unwilling, to confront their Leaders short comings? You gotta remember. This is a CULT. This is not a Political Party. This is their LIFE. This is their RELIGION, and whoever heads up the Ticket, instantly becomes a DIETY.

Look at what the Muslim/Marxist has done to this Country. Yet, they say nothing. They live here. They have Families here. Children. Grandchildren. Can't they see what he's doing?

They don't care. They are like I'mahandajob, in Iran. They are willing to let this Thing DESTROY the Country, if that's what it takes to Fulfill the Liberal Prophecy. If it takes Killing Everybody, to get to Liberal Nirvana? Kill Everybody.

In their minds, and in OBAMA'S mind, especially, Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot, were RIGHT.

They just didn't go far enough.

Occam's Tool| 1.2.12 @ 9:21PM

See Tim, everyone loves ya. And you know why? 'Cause you're a good guy. Happy New Year, pal. May G-d Bless you and yours. I look forward to hearing from you plenty next year. Should you find yourself going to be in Fargo, let Ken know and we can take you out for a steak.

(You also have gotten better and better in your writing each week. It's fun to watch your evolution as an essayist.)

JmsA| 12.30.11 @ 8:38PM

You shouldn't be; you're very good.

Mimi| 12.30.11 @ 9:44AM

AMEN !!!

Petronius| 12.30.11 @ 9:58AM

As if a Republican would utter one word he writes.

PolishKnight| 12.30.11 @ 9:48AM

I like this commentary (very original and thoughtful) but disagree with his notion that the rich can't go where they want. Certainly, they can't go to Ethiopia or rural Mexico for a vacation and not worry about being kidnapped, but the same largely applies to the middle class. To a desperate bandito, a family with $10,000 to get their son back is "rich".

Indeed, a thriving middle class allows the rich to travel around largely in safety. They can walk down 5th avenue in NYC and blow their money on $1000 shoes or go skiing in Gstaad because they can blend in with the middle class on vacation. In third world countries where only the wealthy can do such things, they stand out like a sore thumb.

I don't think Obama really is all that smart. I think he and his buddies simply leverage their electorate as a bargaining chip with the elites of the Republican party to get their share of the spoils.

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 9:59AM

They don't go to the Movies. I bet they don't go to the Bowling Alley. They don't go anywhere that regular people like to go. They're isolated more than you know.

Do you think that Bill Gates does a lot of regular stuff. He lives behind Big Walls, and has Armed Security 24/7/365. Ya his kids can go wherever they want, His Wife? Have you ever heard of a Gilded Cage. You think that they're "Blending in with the Middle Class" in "Gstaad? I don't know you're interpretation of "Middle Class", but I don't know anyone going to Gstaad. I don't even know anyone who goes to Whole Foods.

Where do you live? Monaco?

PolishKnight| 12.30.11 @ 10:14AM

I personally don't go to the movies. Too expensive. :-) $10 for popcorn and then $25 for matinee admission. As we both know, it's because ever since Elizabeth Taylor got a couple of million upfront for Cleopatra, all the stars get most of the money. Regarding the bowling alley: THAT'S a working class sport. I love it but my wife hates it because it's a bit grungy and hates wearing the dirty shoes.

I agree with you that the wealthy don't eat at Applebies or shop at KMart but that's not the point. The general public can walk into Nordstroms or Macys and there are often sales that even an ordinary person can afford to buy stuff there. They walk down the public street. In Mexico, the wealthy have to send a bodyguard to go along with their children and take them in an armored car.

Obama style policies have had a similar, but lesser effect in the USA where hapless German tourists decide to drive their rental car through Southeast DC or East Miami are in for a bit of a shock. It's getting that way now in North Paris and London though.

In answer to your question: I've been to Gstaad. I went there on a swisspass that allowed me access to all of the Swiss rail system for $150 for the week. I personally am not a fan of whole foods but I do shop at such places to get decent mustard (that bright yellow stuff they put on hot dogs here is disgusting.)

Moe Blotz| 12.30.11 @ 10:51AM

Rich people own their bowling alleys and movie houses. They dung have to go out in public as we working stiffs do.

PolishKnight| 12.30.11 @ 12:18PM

Interestingly, Roger Ebert just wrote a column explaining why movie theater attendance is plummeting:
http://www.rogerebert.com/apps.....111229973/

The middle class (even the lower classes) can afford to plop down $500 to buy a big screen HDTV and get netflix for 8 bucks or redbox for a buck. Get some bagged popcorn and you're set.

Ebert missed one of the main reasons I personally hate the movie theater experience: The loud ads at the beginning. Why someone in an ad agency thinks I'll want to see a film after you just hurt my eardrums, I don't get. But then again, a lot of young people now are probably partially deaf from listening to headphones all the time and yelling at each other.

Occam's Tool| 1.2.12 @ 9:25PM

PK---the bowling alley here does a great sausage pizza. Next week, the kids and I will probably be going there for an afternoon, or maybe to the Holiday Inn express with the water park next to the Famous Dave's in the micropolitan town two hours a way. The kids love the Water Park and the bunk beds in the room, along with the BBQ. I love the BBQ and the chance to read medical journals in the quiet lobby at night, along with the hot tub.
the friendly staff, the water park, and the BBQ

Occam's Tool| 1.2.12 @ 9:28PM

Sorry about the left over line. But the point is that a solid middle class does help the economy more than a few billionaires.

I note the below from Oldfarte, and I agree. The Civil Rights Bill of 1964 passed because of Republicans, and the Republicans are the ones who supported free opportunity for Blacks (N.B. the history of Hillsdale College).

Yet, like the Jews, the help has only resulted in hatred back.

oldfart| 12.30.11 @ 9:56AM

"Then, there's the opposite side of the equation. The people who have NOTHING. For 60 Years, the Black Community has given their Votes to the Party of the KLAN. They have thrown their Support behind the Party of BULL CONNER. Of Fire Hoses, and Police Dogs. They have supported the Party of Segregated EVERYTHING, a Noose, hanging from a Tree Branch, and a BOMB thrown in to a Black Church. And for what? Because they feed them. It's like the Love one gets, from a DOG. You can treat that Dog like GARBAGE, and he'll continue to wag his tail, so long as you give him food."

SPOT ON!!

The biggest con in the world and African-Americans still fall for it.

Oldefarte| 12.30.11 @ 11:18AM

TLP: PURE POETRY as usual. Thanks!!!!

Nunya| 12.30.11 @ 11:40AM

TLP, spot on!! Excellent post!

I just wish one of our current Republicrat candidates for President would actually be a Conservative and repeat what you've said.

Ross Kaminsky| 12.30.11 @ 12:21PM

You're quite right. The Obama doesn't fall far from the Alinsky.

rhoetus| 12.30.11 @ 3:45PM

Timothy! Right on! Write a letter to Rich Lowry at National Review maybe your UN-common sense will awaken him from his stupor.

BackToBasics| 12.30.11 @ 6:40PM

Good comments. - from your post - " For 60 Years, the Black Community has given their Votes to the Party of the KLAN"

True, yet after I saw what happened to Herman Cain and how he was attacked with impunity from the Establishment side of the Republican Party, I can see why they continue to vote this way. A lot of the attacks were based in racism. There was more racism in the Republican Establishment than I would have thought possible even just 6 months ago, before all this transpired. It's not that democrats are any more sincere toward blacks but they are better at pretending to be so.

The KKK was based in the Democrat Party as you mention. Though from what I saw regarding Cain, at least some of the 2011 equivalent of the KKK has moved into parts of the Republican Establishment as well.

TrueBlue| 12.30.11 @ 7:17PM

There's the problem though, the "Establishment." Republican Establishment types are just RINOs, they haven't followed the written tenets of the Republican party for years. Too busy milking the population for everything they can along with the Democrats. Cain was a threat (anyone notice that there has been no word on those accusations since he shut down his campaign?) so they did everything they could to bring him down. It was psychological warfare used on his family to get him to buckle. Good people want to protect their friends and family, so he did what he thought was necessary to end the assault on them.

BackToBasics| 12.30.11 @ 7:43PM

from your post - "Republican Establishment types are just RINOs"

True. I do not know the stats on it but maybe a lot of these RINO's are former Democrats or grew up in families where their parents were. Although a lot of them come from what used to be more often called Rockefeller Republicans. They're one and the same as you mention.

True, nothing has been heard about the original 3 phantoms with "unspecified allegations" against Cain. One of them was very recently evicted from the same apartment building where Axelrod lives.

One of these days, once the dam breaks one way or another, all of the leftspeak and establishment speak (Pol Correct nonsense in all forms) isn't going to work anymore. People will look back in amazement that such a thing could have fooled so many. They will also look in amazement that such tripe and the fear of standing up to it could have brought down so great a nation because that will be the end result.

PR| 12.30.11 @ 10:47PM

Yes youre correct...and it is SAD! The GOP is not a party..its a sounding board for the liberal left. They have no plan. They whine about Conservatives and their right wing ideas when they have none other than to whine about Obama. They stand for no one and their class ideology stands out in stark contrast to either Obama's marxist policies or the Conservative "Balance the Budget" constraints. Blacks have been painted into a corner by the left and have no way out other than jumping ship which they cannot do for fear of the consequences of their betrayal. For this reason alone the Left should be exposed for the racial bigotry they harbour and aspire to. I fear it may be too late for this great nation to recover from the policies of the past admininstrations(at least the last 2o years worth) to recover our greatness and actually help the ones(middle class America) that run the economic engine of this country.

BackToBasics| 12.31.11 @ 2:38PM

I agree PR. I think we've already reached the point where only extreme crises will wake up some of the dead on the left and in the Establishments of both parties.

The only problem with crises-"solutions" is that you never know what the country(s) will look like in the aftermath. On top of that, even after it all, some of the remaining walking-dead leftists and establishment people will still blame it all on the right or even the center.

Spoonman| 12.31.11 @ 4:18AM

Tim, great comments to support a great column. Its time to rise up and support republicans for every elected office possible in 2012 - otherwise Oblama and his ilk take over the country and the middle class will be lost.

political correctness czar| 1.1.12 @ 5:13PM

Mr. Pennell, the clarity and quality of your writing indicates that you really should have your own talk show. Fox News are you listening? I really do believe you could give O'Reilly and Hannity a run for their money.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 12.30.11 @ 7:47AM

Winston Smith may not have much joy left in his future as Obama and his band of illegal czars continue to lay waste to America. Ironically, here's a motif from 1984 which shows how urban decay which is bought on by government incompetence, is actually one of the ruling powers tools to control the populace. One of the urban decay strategies noted in 1984 was the on again off again provision of electricity:
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/1984/themes.html
Urban decay proves a pervasive motif in 1984. The London that Winston Smith calls home is a dilapidated, rundown city in which buildings are crumbling, conveniences such as elevators never work, and necessities such as electricity and plumbing are extremely unreliable. Though Orwell never discusses the theme openly, it is clear that the shoddy disintegration of London, just like the widespread hunger and poverty of its inhabitants, is due to the Party’s mismanagement and incompetence. One of the themes of 1984, inspired by the history of twentieth-century communism, is that totalitarian regimes are viciously effective at enhancing their own power and miserably incompetent at providing for their citizens. The grimy urban decay in London is an important visual reminder of this idea, and offers insight into the Party’s priorities through its contrast to the immense technology the Party develops to spy on its citizens.

martin j smith| 12.30.11 @ 8:00AM

Fine, fine Ross---yes,yes we got it years ago-Obama is a Socialist ( or more like a Hugo Chavez or Kim Il Jong wanna be ). But what about The Bushes--I do think they were great friends of the middle class --t oh not as terrible as our dear Leader but bad enough .The attempt of phony Compassionate Conservatism and GWBs
attempt to please every body with spending on programs that only grew the government and in the end his failure to defend himself,his policies and the nation as a whole led to what we have now. GWB and the universal burn out of his policies and his persona even gave us what we have. Now we have Mitt Romney or whoever.

Lets take Mitt because he is without question the WSJ's favorite son. Will he almost anyone can do that. But getting the government off the backs of average Americans ? I do not believe at this time that Romney can deliver on that one. He is too much willing to "compromise" with Socialists--in fact he is even afraid of uttering that word. Yes, Obama is skrewing the middle class, but can Romney do better ?Not enough I am afraid.

craig| 12.30.11 @ 9:19AM

Both parties are the same. The middle class was killed off years ago. Bush, Obama, Clinton or whomever it really does not matter anymore. I really wish that Obama was the main problem like this article wants us to believe. He is just a symptom the eclection will serve as a band aid but saddly will not give us a cure. These articles only serve to build up hatered for Obama the person, we must learn to look past him because America's are much bigger than him.

Oldefarte| 12.30.11 @ 11:23AM

Maybe not, but the only alternative if four more years of Obama/Democrats. W had his faults [the ME war being the biggest], but his drug benefit to deserving seniors was in no way, shape or form comparable to Kennedy/Johnson's Great Society of governmental welfare benefits to the undeserving/irresponsible indigents of society. There's always a difference, and I'll take W, Mitt and the Republicans any day, any time over the socialists, domestic terrorism of the Democratic Party candidates!!!!!!!!

Nunya| 12.30.11 @ 11:48AM

W was not a fiscal Conservative, in any shape or form. He was and is a globalist, and his constant spending, while childish and incompetent in comparison to Obozo, proved him to be just another Socialist/Big Government loving piece of crap. Unfortunately, it appears that our only choices are going to be Obozo and a remake of W in Romney. The American people are too busy watching X Factor and American Idol to care about the economic collapse we're staring at, in the face.

Tom Osterman| 12.30.11 @ 12:20PM

The point is that GWB and Republicans don't undo the bad policies the Dems put in place; instead, they just add to them, leaving things worse than before.

One of Reagan's first acts in office was to deregulate the price of gasoline, over the protests of Dems who said that Big Oil would start "gouging" consumers with sky-high prices. Would Romney be more like Reagan or Bush? A moderate Republican is better than another Democrat only in the sense that he's less bad. At a time like this, that's not nearly good enough.

KennesawJack| 12.30.11 @ 1:29PM

Sad but pretty much true.

Carol| 12.30.11 @ 8:08AM

But, but, but the White House says Obama is the Middle Class Warrior.

That while he and the Mooch are on a $4,000,000 taxpayer paid vacation in Oahu eating the finest, most expensive foods.

Those 2 are evil and could care less about the middle class.

craig| 12.30.11 @ 9:46AM

Grow up Carol! Obama might be a terrible president but evil is a stretch. Newsflash!!! Romeny and the rest of the GOP really do not hate the guy like you seem to. Its all politics all in an effort to get folks like you to think that the current president is some kind of demon while the all laugh at the voters while cutting back room deals. Remember this, polticians have more in common than than they have differences.

VBMax| 12.30.11 @ 11:12AM

Craig,
I guess it depends on your definition of evil.
Purposeful destruction of the American way of life qualifies in my book.

Boar Hunter| 12.30.11 @ 11:57AM

Obama, his wife and all those who empower them are EVIL personified. I suggest doubters look to the definition of the word before they decry it as reactionary. I contend that you Carol, have used most accurately and appropriately.

"All that is necessary for EVIL to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

It is precisely the "but they all do it" attitude practiced by Romney and an unfortunately large percentage of the current GOP leadership that has resulted in our election of the immoral, reprehensible "evil" miscreant we now have in office.

These weak willed, gutless, cowards are no better than a wife who knows her husband is molesting their child and fails to act.

Louis Jenkins| 12.30.11 @ 8:14AM

Today on Breibart:

1.Every day, the U.S. government takes in $6 billion and spends $10 billion. This means that every day the federal government spends $4 billion more dollars than it has.
2.The real unemployment rate is a jaw-dropping 11 percent.
3.Every fifth man you pass on your way to work is now out of work.
4.College graduates are now 34% less likely to find a job under Obama than they were under President George W. Bush.
5.Every seventh person you pass on the sidewalk now relies on food stamps.
6.The ravages of the Obama economy now mean that more Americans live under the federal poverty line than at any time in U.S. history since records have been kept.
7.Under President Barack Obama, every fifth child in America now lives in poverty.

These are not partisan jabs, manufactured statistics, or ideological swipes. These are mathematical facts.

Start with mathematical fact number one—deficit spending. No person, family, business, or nation can spend more than it takes in and remain sustainable; it defies the simple laws of math and reason. And yet even as Washington hemorrhages $4 billion more than it has each day, citizens have watched as the farce that is “Super Committee” has proven it cannot even shave $1.2 trillion from America’s $15 trillion debt.
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And so on. Obama is making war on the middle class. So much for the warrior concept. We are in trouble and Obama knows it. Go ahead Obama, kill the middle class, and we will (are) bound to become a banana republic.

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 8:48AM

But, he IS a Warrior. He's a Warrior AGAINST the Middle Class. Dictatorship 101. The Rich and the Poor are easily CONTROLLED. One has Everything, and wants to keep it, and the other has Nothing, and is easily bought off. (Black Community)

Moe Blotz| 12.30.11 @ 10:55AM

Oy Louie, I have no sidewalks in my neighborhood. How do I calculate unemployed and food stamp users out here among the farms? Maybe I should ring up Andy.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 8:19AM

"This is no accident. The slowest economic recovery in modern American history is a direct result of Obama's policies." - First, Reagan's recession cyclical, not the result of a near complete meltdown of the world's financial system, let alone just ours, more similar to 1991-2's recession than now. Second, Reagan went on a spending spree to goose the economy, but borrowed the money, creating the largest deficits in history, at that time. Third, Reagan raised taxes on the rich, once he figured out what he did wrong, which we have yet to do at this point. He raised taxes 6 times. With a recalcitrant Republican Senate and now House, that worship at Grover Norquist's feet and pledge obedience to his "no tax increases" oath, Obama is stymied in doing that.
This guy's reporting is always replete with 1/2 truths and innuendos, preying on what "everyone knows to be true" without the basis of facts. I can always spot crap when I see it, and his article is loaded with it.

JAWilson| 12.30.11 @ 8:36AM

I would assume from your critique that we need more Obama! Good luck with that.

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 8:42AM

You're not the only one that can "Spot Crap" when he sees it.

Your Boy had 2 Full Years of ZERO opposition. NONE! So, don't give us this "Recalcitrant Republican Senate, and now House" CRAP.

The DEMOCRATS got everything they wanted. They SPENT $7 TRILLION over the last 3 Years. Deficits OVER a Trillion, year after year. And, you want to tell everybody, what? That, if only this Marxist/Muslim/ America Hating/ THING, in the White House, just had more Tax Money to SPEND, everything would be fine?

You're observations are not only CRAP. But YOU are Full Of Sh*t. Nobody can be this STUPID.

You really should go live in Cuba or Venezuela or North Korea or Vietnam. You'd be happy, there. It's where people like you, belong. They'll take care of you. Cradle to Grave. Just like you want.

joanne| 12.30.11 @ 10:02AM

Bravo!!!!! So well said.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 11:38AM

You're funny when you lie. Go check how many times your boys in the Senate used the Filibuster (you know what that is and what it does, don't you? ) and get your facts straight.
You don't understand macroeconomics, let alone microeconomics. The deficits we've had are largely due to the 2 wars (which Bush kept off the budget's books and Obama corrected that in the interest of transparency), the loss of tax revenue from the job losses Bush left behind (temporary), the efforts to help hurting people (unemployment comp is up, food stamps, housing assistance all up temporarily) and yet the deficit is dropping each year of the Obama presidency. 7 Trillion? O my no, a Trillion deficit times 3 years is far from 7 Trillion my arithmetic challenged one.
The government is smaller now than under Bush and yet you still complain... we have more jobs now then when Bush left office (3 million to be exact) and you still complain.
If your boys in the House hadn't brought the country to the brink of disaster with threats to shut the government down and default on the nations debt for the first time in history, we probably would be even better off. So if you don't like where we are - "Blame Yo'Self " - you voted for the morons who's #1 issue is defeating Obama - not saving the economy, not jobs, not winning a war, not saving Social Security or anything else - just beating Obama.
We have the country Ronald Reagan and Bush I and Bush II gave us today. Clinton pulled us out of deficits and into surpluses and Bush put us right back into the toilet and deeper still....
How you like it? THIS is what Republicant rule has brought us to.

Nunya| 12.30.11 @ 11:56AM

Purp, you obviously know nothing of macroeconomics, nor microeconomics. You spout lies and try to pass it off as truth.

You think Obozo spending more money is going to help the economy? Really? And STILL blaming Bush for Obozo's failed economy three years into his term? Really? You need to stop smoking crack (or whatever it is you're on), and come in out of the "occupy" group.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 3:06PM

It always has ... it just doesn't fit the Republicant narrative .. but that's your problem.
Did you miss the part where the Bush economy is being corrected under Obama? Selective reading and memory must be something they teach you at Fixed News. You do know what you missed reading, don't you, Sunshine?

Occam's Tool| 1.2.12 @ 9:32PM

I keep forgetting, you work for a Fortune 10 company. I suspect GE---which has stock going down a rathole, purp. The revenue is in Billions of dollars, by the way.

1. Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Bentonville, Ark., 1, $258.681

2. Exxon Mobil Corp., Irving, Texas, 3, $213.199

3. General Motors Corp., Detroit, 2, $195.645

4. Ford Motor Co., Dearborn, Mich., 4, $164.496

5. General Electric Co., Fairfield, Conn., 5, $134.187

6. ChevronTexaco Corp., San Ramon, Calif., 7, $112.937

7. ConocoPhillips, Houston, 12, $99.468

8. Citigroup Inc., New York, 6, $94.713

9. International Business Machines Corp., Armonk, N.Y., 8, $89.131

10. American International Group, Inc., New York, 9, $81.300

Stan Redmond| 12.30.11 @ 12:10PM

ECH... I sure wish liberals would stop spreading the myth of Clinton's magical surplus. Taking 5 dollars from one pocket and puting it in the other pocket does not equal 10 dollars which is exactly what the Clinton spin doctors were doing.

http://finance.townhall.com/co.....page/full/

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 3:07PM

Where in the world do you get this crap? A surplus is a surplus is a surplus and started paying down the national debt - until Bush Baby squandered just like Al Gore warned us about. and you can vote?

Louis Jenkins| 12.30.11 @ 1:20PM

"The government is smaller now than under Bush..." Whatever this man is smoking I'd like some.

chuck| 12.30.11 @ 8:47AM

I'm sure you can spot crap when you see it.

Now go back to the "Fortune 10 Company" job you have and go clean Jeff Immelt's toilet.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 11:39AM

Wrong company dingbat, and far from the proper job, although there's nothing wrong with janitorial service, it's a meaningful job .. so don't worry, we respect your job.

AhiaGuy| 12.31.11 @ 10:27AM

The only response left for supports of Pres. Obama: "Oh yeah, well look at what Bush did! Look at what Reagan did!"

How far back are you going to go to try to deflect the argument? Herbert Hoover? Teddy Roosevelt? Abraham Lincoln?

Fact is, your guy is supposed to be the most brilliant man ever to inhabit the oval office. He's "sort of a god." He "stepped down to assume the presidency." So where's the results of his brilliance?

Quit trying to blame others and tell us how it's so much better now.

Occam's Tool| 1.2.12 @ 9:33PM

OK, not GE---Citigroup, then. Please tell us, purp.

Boar Hunter| 12.30.11 @ 5:45PM

Think in terms of "A house divided against itself." You are asking the fecal matter to clean out the fecal matter.

PolishKnight| 12.30.11 @ 9:52AM

Federal revenues increased while Reagan was in office. While he made a number of political compromises, unlike Obama he did not WANT to go on a spending spree.

One of the great myths held by many well educated leftists is that if we trashed the defense budget (guns) there'd be plenty of room for domestic spending (butter.) What Obama has shown is that after the leftist union cronies and corporate welfare droids get done feeding at the trough, a trillion dollars is NOTHING.

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 10:01AM

Stop it. You're confusing him.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 11:43AM

u don't understand it?

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 11:43AM

Au contraire - Reagan went on a military spending spree and added Star Wars initiatives as well. Union cronies? What do unions get?
Corporate, yes, they control way too much of our government, which is why the 1% wealth has grown while the rest of us have stayed the same in income or lost over the last 30 years. Isn't it interesting how that parallels the beginning of the Reagan administration and the majority of Republican presidential rule during that 30 years? Naw, their policies to polish the corporate knobs have nothing to do with it, right?

PolishKnight| 12.30.11 @ 12:14PM

What the 30 years date parallels with is Reagan's "one time" amnesty for illegals compromise to then secure the border. Send 40 million Mexicans over to Sweden and see how long it remains a "socialist" paradise... If you want to see more "middle class", stop importing illiterate Democrat voters!

And living standards flourished during the 80's and the 90's (I remember the left worshipping Bill Clinton about it even though Bill never got to pass his national healthcare agenda and had to sign off on welfare reform to basically stay in office.) It's really stunk for the past 10 years or so and much of that is due to 911 and the real estate bust AND boom. During the boom, real estate values skyrocketed but so did property taxes (plenty of money for those government union workers) and Americans went into debt. All that paper money is gone now.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 3:12PM

40 million? Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million illegals, which btw only became a magnet for more to immigrate - good show Ronnie. So much for that red herring, Chuckles.
Unions are bad, bad, bad ... right? Bogeyman for the righties. You're an idiot if you don't know what Unions did to benefit you and your country. At 7% of the population, you really are scared of unions? Oh, my ... bugugugubooo. hahahaha, idiotboy.

Boar Hunter| 12.30.11 @ 5:49PM

You sir are a lying ass dog. Strange your omitting everything associated with that amnesty, which oddly only served to prove that you liberals are liars and cannot be trusted to hold up your side of any bargain.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 6:15PM

Oh, please kind sir, please enlighten us with all the extra information you possess to make my day complete! I didn't you knew anything at all - prove me wrong... come on.

George S| 12.30.11 @ 9:53AM

Reagan's recession was not cyclical -- it was the direct result of federal regulations that tried to stop the halt of the 1970's era inflation. One of the highlights was the reg that prevented oil companies from passing along OPEC price hikes to the customers at the gas pumps (no price hike equals no gas equals long lines and odd-even license plates, remember?).

So is that the kind of market regulation you have in mind that we need more of?

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 11:56AM

Nope, not what I had in mind at all.
The primary cause of the recession was a contractionary monetary policy established by the Federal Reserve System to control high inflation. In the wake of the 1973 oil crisis and the 1979 energy crisis, stagflation began to afflict the economy of the United States.
" Congressional Budget Office, "The Prospects for Economic Recovery," February 1982.
"The peak of the recession was in November and December 1982, when the nationwide unemployment rate was 10.8%, highest since The Great Depression. As of 2011, it is still the highest since the 1930s. " - http://www.miseryindex.us/urbymonth.asp
"Pressured to counteract the increased deficit caused by the recession, Reagan agreed to a corporate tax increase in 1982. However, he refused to raise income taxes or cut defense spending. The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 instituted a three-year, $100 billion tax hike—the largest tax increase since World War II." - Green, "Reagan's Liberal Legacy," Washington Monthly," January/February 2003. .... So, you see, even Reagan raised taxes on corporations during a recession, and we did okay, now didn't we?

Dick Nome| 12.30.11 @ 9:56AM

You are a clueless twirp. Pobably not even a twinkle in you sire's eye when Ronald Reagan kicked off the greatest economic expansion and prosperity in US history. Too bad for you and your ilk who hate this country.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 11:59AM

See my note above for St.Reagan. I challenge the beliefs you have, not your facts, since you don't present any. And point of correction, Clinton presided over the largest AND longest peacetime economic expansion and prosperity in US History - and he raised taxes too.
Too bad for you and your ilk that have deep seated beliefs that propaganda has caused you to defend.

Oldefarte| 12.30.11 @ 11:26AM

Yeah, and Pilosi, Reid, Schumer, Durbin Conyers, Frank etc ALWAYS tell the truth, the whoe thruth and nothing but, right? Sure, and the cow jumped over the moon etc!!!!!!!!!

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 12:00PM

Insignificant players on the economic stage, no different than turtle face (McConnell), Eric Cankersore and John Boner. Economics continues as the players change.

Perp| 12.30.11 @ 12:20PM

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! This is a warning to those of you that might be tempted to use your gastrointestinal tract as an amusement park. This is what went wrong with Purp. He imagines everyone has canker sores and other diseases. He can no longer add or subtract and just repeats what others tell him. He is a member of the walking dead and should be treated accordingly.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 6:16PM

Would you care to be more specific - otherwise you're just trash talking 'cause you know nuttin'....

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 8:41AM

Again, this guy is so full of hooey, WSJ articles (owned by whom - Rupert Murdoch, champion of the middle class - NOT), "consulting firms" that shill for the right wing agenda, and like I said earlier innuendo and 1/2 truths.
We've tried supply side, trickle-down economic baloney for 30 years and here we are - what has it gotten us. Consistently falling incomes for middle class and working stiffs, while the 1% continue to concentrate wealth at the top - while productivity gains have continued. And, yet the workers that have provided that additional productivity gain do not share in the rewards.
Corporations whining about regulation is stupid. Mercury can kill is extremely small amounts and we shouldn't care about ourselves let alone our children's health?
We've just experienced what happens when regulations are relaxed or even removed over the last 30 years and we just about fell over the cliff - but the wealthy got wealthier - so where are the jobs, job creators? They are not there, because that is baloney.
Multinational corporations outsource our jobs overseas 'cause they don't have to care where the work is done, nor where they make their money in the world. Small businesses in America create the jobs for Americans, don't get outsourced - ever. But small business needs customers to hire more people - how many suits, cars, dinners out and gallons of milk can 1% of the country buy? We need the 99% to have money and start buying to pump up small business HERE so they can put people back to work.
Keynesian Economics got us out of the Great Depression and Regulations kept us safe for almost 80 years. And, they can again, if we pay attention. Otherwise, capitalism in this country is doomed as more and more pain is spread. Remember, Adam Smith himself, author of "Wealth of Nations" warned us about the concentration of wealth in a democracy and so here we are. What are we going to do? Follow the past 30 years and throw away our country, our prosperity, more freedom but less economic security or chart a new path following the policies of FDR that helped us so well for so long?

chuck| 12.30.11 @ 8:48AM

Immelt just called for you, purp. His toilet needs cleaning!

zoiram| 12.30.11 @ 9:58AM

Hey Chuckie boy, he stated facts and you have stated what? just a typical ignoramus reply.
Name me a president who came into office with more sh*t than this man. Did Reagan have a lot on his hands when he came into office in '81? Papa Bush? Clinton? GW?

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 11:45AM

Do we really have to answer that question? "Did Reagan have a lot on his hands when he came in to Office in '81"?

Are you Retarded? Have you been Off-world for 30 Years. Or, are you just too young, and too Stupid to know what things were like, under the Original Barack Hussein Obama. aka Jimmy Carter?

Iran was a nice place to visit, until Jimmy Carter came along. There was no Al Qaeda, back then. No Mullahs in Iran. Iran was an Ally. An Ally who got Thrown under the Bus. And, wouldn't you know it? Jimmy Carter #2 - Barry - would do the very same thing to our Ally in Egypt, 30 years later. And the results of those actions would be the very same, as well. Islamists took over in Iran. Islamists will take over in Egypt and Libya.

So. The 1st Obama (Carter) throws the Shah under the bus, and we get Khomeini. We have our Embassy sacked, and our Embassy personnel held hostage for 444 Days. We had a CIA Station Chief MURDERED. We lost Helicopters and Men in a Rescue Effort in the Desert.
Russia invaded Afghanistan.
We had an Oil Embargo going on.
Every bad Economic Indicator was in Double Digits. Unemployment. Interest Rates. And a third one, I can't remember. Oh yeah. The EPA.

Our Military was a sick joke. Fresh from leaving Vietnam, the All Volunteer Military (Of which I was a member of the VERY FIRST WAVE) was just getting started, and, after seeing what had happened to the returning Vietnam guys, people weren't exactly knocking down the doors, to get in.

All of the Services were Depleted. The Democrat Congress had no intention of spending any Money on Defence. The Navy went from 600 ships to 300. Air Wings disappeared. The Numbers of Troops were decimated. Did I mention that the Soviets invaded Afghanistan? The Muslim Brotherhood Assassinated Anwar Sadat.

Back here, we had a Malaise going on. We had a Misery Index going on. We had High Gas Prices going on.

Now, I know that you won't believe this, but things were WORSE when Reagan took over from Barack Obama #1. Go ask your Mommy, or one of your Alien Handlers, who brought you back to Earth.

The only difference is, Reagan made everything BETTER. Jeremiah Wright's little boy, has taken BAD, and turned it in to SH*T.

Is ANYONE surprised?

I just stated FACTS, not the typical Ignoramus reply that I'm sure you're working on, right now.

zoiram| 12.30.11 @ 12:23PM

so you are comparing with 2 wars ,a world economy gone to hell and here a meltdown in wall street to what Reagan came into office?
Open your eyes for change, don't leave on the blinders like they do with horses in races!
Reagan made everything better for whom?
check your facts Tiny Tim and see just how high the unemployment went under Reagan's watch..
above 10% and how long it took for him to get it under what he came into office.. I'll tell you that it did not take him 2 or 3 years to do so.
you people make me laugh cause all you see is what you want to see and won't look at facts.
now go ahead and give back the computer back to mommy tiny tim
Reagan made everything better!!
please stop, no better yet, go on cause this is a good one to laugh at!!

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 12:58PM

I love it when Liberals PROJECT, don't you?

zoiram| 12.30.11 @ 1:10PM

no much better is when so-called conservatives dopes like you REJECT everything that is placed before them simply cause they don't want to face the truth.
Tiny Tim.... ahh never mind!

Boar Hunter| 12.30.11 @ 12:50PM

Timothy your simply wrong this time.

It simply cannot be disputed that Obama did in fact come into office with more issues than any other president.

Unlike any other president, Obama came into office as an admitted dope smoking criminal with friendly ties to other dope smokers, criminals, terrorists and others liberal vermin I guarantee we will never hear about. As evidence of the fact liberals are insane and evil they did not care and elected him anyway.

Unlike any other president, straight out of a script for the Omen 2012, all of Obama's legal documents and school transcripts have, not surprisingly, been sealed or disappeared. Liberals do not care.

Unlike any other president, all of Obama's mentors were by his own admission the same brand of Marxist American hating racists or open communists he continually elevates to the position of Czar's in his administration. He attended a racist church and by extension ensured his beautiful, innocent daughters were properly indoctrinated into anti-white, anti-American "Black" theology and the liberals did not care.

As always, the democrat scum twist all the facts and try to find some moral equivalence for this walking piece of human fecal matter they elected to office.

They force actions appalling to conservatives then blame them for the results of their idiotic policies. They are hate filled ranters against anyone who would question their depravity. Liars and lovers of lies, whose greed and morally destitute policies will haunt us to the end of days.

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 1:03PM

You are so right about the whole OMEN, thing. Now, add in a little 'Boys From Brazil'.

You're preaching to the Choir, Bud.
Revelation 13-5.
It couldn't be any clearer.

Occam's Tool| 1.2.12 @ 9:35PM

TLP---thank you for your service, sir.

chuck| 12.30.11 @ 9:01PM

"Hey Chuckie boy, he stated facts and you have stated what?"

Purp said:"Keynesian Economics got us out of the Great Depression"

You call this a fact?

You're a moron, zoiram!

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 12:01PM

Old, sorry, lame joke ... get some new material ...

chuck| 12.30.11 @ 9:04PM

As soon as you get some new material, I will. Your same old liberal bull shit is old, and very few people are buying it any more.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 10:27PM

there you are wrong ... conservative crap is worse than any other crap ... it smells up the place and can't pay for the cleanup.

MM| 12.30.11 @ 10:46PM

PAY for the cleanup...? You ARE a moron.

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 12.30.11 @ 8:57AM

The wealth is concentrated in government who controls everything.

So your rant is false on that concept alone.

In fact, since the government started controlling things, everything has gotten worse, higher unemployment and more foreclosures.

The housing mess is a direct result of government policies. CRA and Fannie/Freddie.

No, it's just the opposite of what you think.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 12:04PM

Government doesn't have any money and doesn't produce anything - didn't you learn that in civics class? Moreover, in America the government is US, so what's your point?

chuck| 12.30.11 @ 9:07PM

"Government doesn't have any money and doesn't produce anything "

Government has spent it all, plus years of future tax dollars, and it steals from those who produce to buy the votes of those who don't.

Now go back to cleaning your toilets!

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 10:28PM

Like I said, Government doesn't have any money and doesn't produce anything - what's your point?

KennesawJack| 12.30.11 @ 9:02AM

A couple of observations, Purp. The Second World War got us out of the Great Depression, not Keynes. The depression deepened from 1929 through 1939 under FDR. The Japs and the Germans bailed his ass out. That toxic mercury you talk about and its harmful effect on our children, any idea how much of it is in the new Obamarx mandated CFL light bulbs? If you buy one, the label tells you to remove children from the house until the materials can be cleaned up. In some states you are prohibited from throwing them in the trash because they don't want santitation workers exposed to mercury. Funny thing, those child killers are produced by everyone's favorite crony corporation, G. E. How can anyone want this fool re-elected?

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 9:03AM

Thank You.

KennesawJack| 12.30.11 @ 9:13AM

My pleasure. Sometimes it's just too easy, isn't it?

PatrioticAmerican| 12.30.11 @ 12:05PM

Hee hee!! Right on, Kennsawjack and Timothy L. Pennell. Can I get an Amen?

Nunya| 12.30.11 @ 12:41PM

Amen, brother!

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 1:05PM

Can I get an Amen?
That's my line.
Don't look now, but He's Copyimg Me!

zoiram| 12.30.11 @ 10:18AM

Hey pal, go back and read who passed this law, it was your boy Bush who mandated the new light bulbs, essentially killing the good ole Edison light bulb.
Take a gander at this below :
In 2007, the U.S. Congress passed the Energy Independence and Security Act, requiring light bulbs to use at least 25% less electricity for the amount of lumens, or light, produced. So, come January, manufacturers will have to produce the equivalent of a 100-watt bulb using 72 watts of power.

Edison's bulbs won't meet the standard, but the mercury-free halogen incandescent will. So, too, will the compact fluorescent lamp (CFL) and the LED (light emitting diode), each of which is at least 75% more efficient.

The bipartisan law, signed by President George W. Bush, will also phase out the traditional 75-watt incandescent beginning in January 2013 and the 60-watt and 40-watt versions in January 2014. California is phasing each out a year earlier. The law exempts appliance, colored, three-way and 19 other less commonly used incandescent bulbs.
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this is one reason why I hate Politics because it causes one thing... division!

KennesawJack| 12.30.11 @ 12:31PM

Signed by Bush because he couldn't overide a veto. Introduced and passed in the House by Democrats (majority party) and passed in the Senate with 19 of 47 Republicans supporting it. It was Pelosi's and Reid's Bill all the way. Not defending Bush, by the way. He wasn't much different from Obamarx when it comes to spending.

Drunken Sailor| 12.30.11 @ 12:52PM

Ahh yes, the good old light bulb ban. But once again capitalism provides a answer to this stupidity.. A german business man is selling "Heat bulbs". According to his marketing, they look like light bulbs, fit in light bulb socket and produce heat. The side effect is they produce light. Why does that sound familiar?

Drunken Sailor| 12.30.11 @ 12:52PM

Forgot the link.
http://www.americanthinker.com.....tball.html

Dave Williams| 12.30.11 @ 1:29PM

Another solution is to lay in a lifetime supply of 100-watt incandescent bulbs....and then tell the EPA to go piss up a rope. Even American sheeple won't stand for house-to-house searches by those jackbooted thugs.

KennesawJack| 12.30.11 @ 1:39PM

Already have. Although, at my age, it wasn't a particularly large purchase.

MM| 12.30.11 @ 10:50PM

I am not sure my supply will last my lifetime - and certainly not my children's. If they try any 'house - to -house search in my community, they will meet with firearems.

That is certain.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 12:11PM

First of all, the Great Depression ended in 1943, 2 years AFTER the war started. How? By the Government spending/borrowing 122% of GDP to buy military equipment (ships, planes, bombs, guns) and putting 12 million men in uniform (a job) - which is exactly what Keynes advocated (altho not going to war necessarily). So I think that little red herring of yours you can stick it, since you don't know what you are talking about. CFL light bulbs? Let me direct you here for some common sense about a light bulb that's been around since the 1990's... : http://www.greenlivingtips.com.....cling.html ... since they last for years, the fear is unwarranted.

perp| 12.30.11 @ 12:25PM

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! This is a warning to those of you that might be tempted to use your gastrointestinal tract as an amusement park. He just repeats because there is only a brain stem left.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 6:20PM

Seems to me you've been saying the same ol' tired crap day after day - and you say I repeat anything? Nothing you say has any value, it's simply a simpleton's way of throwing stones. Grow up, grow a pair, and go learn something. Then come back and debate with intelligent humans - you sir are not now.

MM| 12.30.11 @ 10:51PM

Get OUT.

Either leave the country or leave the forum.

Bruno's Pet| 12.31.11 @ 9:06AM

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! This is a warning to those of you that might be tempted to use your gastrointestinal tract as an amusement park.

Gee Purp, I was just doing an imitation of you with a couple more Hahas.

KennesawJack| 12.30.11 @ 12:46PM

The first part of your reply doesn't warrant a response. It is specious on its face. As to the light bulbs, what convoluted logical progression leads to the conclusion that because it last for years the fear is unwarranted? Don't know about you, kiddo, but my grandchildren aren't going to be exposed to mercury in my house. Seriously, if a package carries a warning label that tells you to remove children from your house for at least 15 minutes while you open the windows and doors and clean up the mess why in the world would you want it? Oh! I see the logic. It's better for mankind to expose our children to mercury poisoning than to have the Kennedy's move their compound back from the menacing rise of the sea level or have Polar Bears get a little warmer in the Summer. Nice to see the Kumbaya crowd is still at it.

USSAlabama| 12.30.11 @ 10:56PM

Hi KJ,

I've had to clean up after an 'incident' with a CFL. Don't put one in your kid's room!

Had to close it up for at least a half hour and was advised to use that time to collect the cleaning supplies necessary to the job. Every thing used to clean up HAS to go into the disposal ziplock bag. No broom to sweep up glass fragments unless it will fit into that bag.

Now, google yourself a 'drop off location' and you're set - if you managed to get it all up with the tape and paper towels you will be told to use.

chuck| 12.30.11 @ 9:13PM

Ding,ding,ding!!!!!

We have a winner!!!!!

The stupidest comment of all time!!!!!!!

WWII........ THE ULTIMATE IN KEYNESIAN ECONOMICS!!!!!!!!!!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAHAAA

I think I may have peed myself just a little laughing so hard!

Indiana Alex| 12.30.11 @ 9:06AM

I would like to imagine that your "Mercury can kill in small amounts" comment would put you on the side of the incandecent light bulb, but consistency is most certainly not a principle of liberalism.

Oldefarte| 12.30.11 @ 11:29AM

You are a socialist MORON [and obviously a Barry supporter]!!!!!!!!!

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 12:11PM

Wheee! How profound you are... ! Can always count on an OldFarte to smell up the place.

Oldefarte| 12.30.11 @ 4:04PM

Yep, the TRUTH sometimes smells but it's still the TRUTH!!!!!!!

Clawhammer Jake| 12.30.11 @ 8:56AM

I would comment more specifically, but this article is such twaddle that it would require a response as large as the article itself.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 12:12PM

Thank You. Agreed.

perp| 12.30.11 @ 12:26PM

Then get the hell out of here and take your diseased pal with you.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 6:21PM

No

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 9:02AM

So, what you're saying is that you want to "Chart a New Path" by going BACK to the Policies that EVERYONE AGREES, Prolonged the Depression with the Heavy Hand of Politicians in Washington? Is that it?

Back then, as now, Mandates from Washington, SHUT DOWN the hiring of New Workers. You sound like another typical, head up his *ss, Liberal Puke. Go look up some of the saying that came out of the FDR years. You can start with "It's good work, if you can get it." Ask BLACKS how they fared, once all of the new Minimum Wage Laws were enacted.

While you're at it, why don't you tell the Class how many THOUSANDS of New Regulations on Businesses have been Created under this Administration? Tell the Class how many THOUSANDS of PAGES the Dodd/Frank Regulations are. How many New Mandates on Corporations?

You want FDR? You got him. Our Economy is Spinning its' wheels, going nowhere, because this IDIOT, is already doing FDR. That's the problem, DUMB*SS.

I'll say it, again: You can't be this STUPID.

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 9:21AM

if yhere was a strong demand for a good or service corporations would invest and hire inspite of increased regulations. we have had 21 months of positive job growth . how do you explain that ?

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 9:43AM

Let's look at all of this "Job Growth". The CENSUS was considered Job Growth, by idiots like you. Seasonal Jobs, and Holiday Jobs. TEMPORARY Jobs.

How about we get some REAL NUMBERS from this bunch? How about the MEDIA, does its' Job?

If someone is UNEMPLOYED, and they've been that way since your Muslim Messiah, came to Power, and they've given up looking because there's NOTHING out there? Are they STILL Unemployed?

Of course they are. Even a Dumb*ss, like yourself, has got to acknowledge the OBVIOUS.

But, not your Boy. Not the Boy that was raised in the Muslim Schools and Mosques, of Indonesia, for the 1st 11 Years of his life. Not the Boy who knelt on his Prayer Rug, facing Mecca, and Prayed to his God of MURDER 5 times a day. no, no. Not him. Not HIS Labour Department. According to them, that person doesn't exist. You and I both know that, that person DOES still exist, and that, that person IS still Unemployed. But, they're not counted.

And, THAT, my Stupid Friend, is how the Son of an Atheist/Communist Mother and a Muslim/Marxist Father, who abandoned his Family (Typical Black Man) and died Drunk, in a Kenyan Gutter, gets the Numbers to look the way he wants them to.

craig| 12.30.11 @ 9:51AM

a little racist are we?

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 10:10AM

If I have to EXPLAIN IT every time, maybe I should stop using it.

IN the Muslim Boy's Book, he described his Grandmother as a "TYPICAL WHITE PERSON" because, after she had been accosted by a Black THUG, she became afraid of all Black Men, and would cross the street, when she saw one.

I forget how STUPID some of you people are.

Let's see. c-r-a-i-g IDIOT. Don't be clever. Keep it simple for the Idiot craig.

Got it.

p.s. It should read: A little racist, AREN'T we?

Like I said. Idiot.

craig| 12.30.11 @ 10:26AM

LOL!! You still have not addressed my question. Quite frankly, Obama admitted that his grandmother often made racist statements. Like (tyipical black man). Are you admitting you racial animosity?

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 11:52AM

I only explain it once. Unfortunately for you, my computor does not have a CRAYON App.

Maybe DRed or The Zoltran, can explain it to you.

Boar Hunter| 12.30.11 @ 4:04PM

"Quite frankly" you are a hypocrite.

Obama attended "Reverend" Wright's church for how many years?

Obama attended Black Panther Party rally's with people who call for the death of white babies. They supported Obama and he protected these degenerate scum and kept them from prosecution. You know that, right craig?

Obama openly lives his racism and imposes it on the whole country. He has perpetually supported and acted to appease the muslim community, while openly denigrating christianity throughout his entire time in office. Does "Clinging to their guns and religion" ring any bells for you?

Timothy tells the truth about this vile racist whose actions you support and you have the laughable gall to call Timothy racist.

Your idiotic response to Timothy leaves me wondering if you are simply throwing out the race card to deflect from the real issue (which Timothy is addressing), or are you admitting "you" racial animosity?

Oldefarte| 12.30.11 @ 4:08PM

Oh like in GD America and THE CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST 'racist' perhaps?????????

zoiram| 12.30.11 @ 10:39AM

Tiny Tim, name calling suits you to a tee! keep it up pal, it's very amusing!

DRed| 12.30.11 @ 11:19AM

Good morning, Timmy.

Let's start with the basic things you get wrong. Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. His family moved to Indonesia in 1967. So, he was clearly not raised in the muslim schools in Indonesia for the first 11 years of his life. One of the 'muslim' schools he went to in Indonesia was the St. Francis of Assisi school. No doubt that is where he learned to pray to Mecca.

The labor department's policy of not counting those not looking for jobs as unemployed long predates Obama's administration.

Obama is a grown man, not a boy.

Obama's father abandoned him when he was 2 years old. Whatever his political and religious affiliations were, there's no way he could have communicated them to his son.

So, to sum up, almost everything in your rant is factually wrong. I await your correction.

Have a happy new year, my friend.

Regards,

DRed

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 12:08PM

Ya know, you're so full of sh*t, nothing you say can be believed.

His Mother is an Atheist/Communist. (Nothing Christian about her) His Father is a Muslim/Marxist. (Nothing Christian, there) His Father, being Muslim, makes HIM a Muslim. His Typical Black Man Father runs out on Barry and his Mother, so she Re-Marries Mr. Soetoro, WHOM, just so happens, is another MUSLIM. (Nothing Christian about him, either.)

So, they move to the Largest Muslim Country in the World (Nothing Christian about that) but we're supposed to BELIEVE that he went to a CHRISTIAN SCHOOL?

That's like "I never had sex with that woman, Miss Lewinski", or "I never heard Reverend Wright say anything like that, in 20 years".

There is NOTHING Christian about him. His Father's and his Step Father's Religions are part of him. He didn't live in a Vacuum. His Marxist/Communist proclivities are in his DNA. He has been IMMERSED in these philosophies his entire life. His Communist Grandparents, are the ones who set him up with his 1st Communist MENTOR - Frank Marshall Davis.

You might be able to fool an Idiot, like craig, but don't insult me with your Selective tid bits. His own relatives, back in the Africa Hood, tell how Enthusiastic he was about ISLAM.

He is, what he is. If you don't believe me?
Read his Books.

zoiram| 12.30.11 @ 12:34PM

Here before you we have Tiny Tim
a frustrated boy with much anger in him
no longer having that good ole Christmas spirit
he now rants and raves and calls you an 'idiot'!
but let's all wish him a happy and healthy new year
for come november he won't have anything good to cheer!

DRed| 12.30.11 @ 12:38PM

Both Obama's parents are long dead, so neither of them is anything. Minor quibble aside, being a muslim isn't a genetically inheritable trait. To be a muslim, one has to declare one's faith. There's no evidence that Barak Obama was ever a muslim.

How would Obama's relatives in the "Africa Hood" (by which I assume you mean Africa), who he had no contact with, know that he was enthusiastic about Islam?

As far as Obama's attendance at the St. Francis of Assisi school in Jakarta, you can look that one up. It's well documented. Since he actually went there, and not the muslim school you pretend he went to, people remember him. There are records at the school of his attendance. Things like that. Now, if I'm wrong, I'm sure you'll be able to offer me proof to the contrary.

Hope all is well,

DRed

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 1:10PM

No, Dumb*ss. If your Mother is a Jew? You're a Jew. If your Father is a Muslim? You're a Muslim. That's the way it is for those Religions.
Apparently, both your parents were IDIOTS.

They should be very proud of you, carrying on the family Stupidity.

DRed| 12.30.11 @ 1:25PM

Having a muslim father doesn't make you muslim for life. Sorry Timmy. It's a religious belief, not an ethnicity. You have to profess to be a muslim, just like you do to be a Christian. You're certainly not a muslim if you confess that you're a Christian, no matter who your father was.

Finally, Obama's father wasn't a practicing muslim. So, you're doubly wrong. A word of friendly advice-when one is clearly wrong, you should avoid calling the person who politely corrects you and idiot and then insulting his or her parents. It doesn't reflect well on you.

Enjoy the remainder of your day,

DRed

Rowdy Boots| 12.30.11 @ 8:51PM

Dear D Red,

Good color for a communist, but you are dead wrong in saying you are correcting someone.

Obama is an Anti-colonialist. His ideology went out of style in America many years ago.

If you cannot understand why he gave the Bust of Churchill to the British Embassy, I hope this clears things up for you.

America is not and has never been a colonizing country--See Japan, France, Germany, and many other countries we gave Blood and Treasure for.

Your man is just OUT OF DATE WITH THIS THINKING....yes, it is that simple. Watch him be Roosevelt and Roosevelt.

oops

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.30.11 @ 1:13PM

So you're saying that we can see THOSE RECORDS, but we can't see his AMERICAN COLLEGE RECORDS?
Is that what you're saying?
You're pathetic.

DRed| 12.30.11 @ 1:29PM

I'm saying that you were wrong when you said Obama spent the first 11 years of his life in Indonesia attending muslim school and praying to Allah. You are clearly wrong. We can agree on that, right?

KennesawJack| 12.30.11 @ 2:00PM

DRed, Can't dispute your statement but, correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not), Obamarx did say that the evening call to prayer from the Imam was one of the most beautiful sounds in the world. Now, no reasonable person can conclude that this statement makes him a muslim but, one can reasonably conclude that his proximity to muslims (his stepfather was a muslim) as a young boy, coupled with that statemnent could serve to foster a belief that he has a favorable bias towards muslims. So, perhaps you can understand someone defaulting to the "looks like a duck, quack likes a duck," etc., etc., etc. thing when describing Obamarx. As an aside, it also serves to inform his hostile attitude towards Israel.

zoiram| 12.30.11 @ 2:20PM

so is his favorable bias towards muslims a bad thing?
whatever happened to freedom of religion?
As for Israel, and as for the rest of world, we should mind our own business because we have a big mess in this country that needs to be attended to.

KennesawJack| 12.30.11 @ 2:37PM

I never said his favorable bias towards muslims was a bad thing although I must say what a pleasure it is to have you admit he has one. Also, I take it from your last sentence that you are, ipso facto, a Ron Paul supporter. That right?

zoiram| 12.30.11 @ 2:54PM

again, so what! who fricken cares as to what his beliefs or bias are towards any religion!
as long as he looks after this country, I don't give a rats ass as to his beliefs.
Tell me something, how many wars would you have us in?
would you like us to invade Iran?
how about Syria?
Cuba?
Venezuela?
Bolivia?
Ecuador?
all these countries that I have mentioned above have looneys for presidents!
all I am saying is let their people take care of their own loonies and not get involved.
Ron Paul is 76 years old going on 100, why would anybody want to be president at that age and with all the stress and pressure that this office brings?

KennesawJack| 12.30.11 @ 3:02PM

First, we have to define what "looks after this country" means. Second, Iran, and that's only because their particular loon is about to have a nuke. Oh, I forgot, as an add on to my previous reply, we are going to take care of the big mess this country is in which you referred to come next November.

zoiram| 12.30.11 @ 3:48PM

hey Jack
we are and have been in enough wars already.
that loon in Iran can be deposed of if we want and you know that.
if he was a real serious threat, he would have been taken out a long time ago by the israelis,
another war where we will lose thousands of brave men and women, why?
if we were attacked then that is a different story but just because we don't believe in his policies is no reason for an invasion.
does he have the bomb? like i said, if he does have it, i believe that the israelis can take him out.

KennesawJack| 12.30.11 @ 4:53PM

Well, we could just fight the war from about 37,000 feet with one of those things that make a big mushroom cloud. You know, kind of a one and done sorta thing. Wouldn't require any boots on the ground. My oldest son is a Major in Special Forces so my kind of war has real appeal for me. Yessir, fried just like you like 'em. In addition, just think how happy all those virgins sitting around up there with Allah are gonna be when all those martyrs show up. Be one hell of a party! The more I think about it, the more it looks like a win/win to me.

ZOIRAM | 12.30.11 @ 8:20PM

That's ok in my book pal! No boots on the ground! Just like Lybia, right?

DRed| 12.30.11 @ 2:32PM

Favorable bias? Perhaps. It's certainly one reasonable belief. Or perhaps his upbringing game him a lack of prejudice concerning muslims? I think that's another reasonable belief. I think reasonable people can disagree on that. I don't think Timmy is a reasonable person.

zoiram| 12.30.11 @ 1:35PM

'If your father is a muslim than you are a muslim'
say what?
my neighbor is a muslim and his kids were born here and guess what.. they don't consider themselves muslims cause they were raised in this good ol country of ours.
they respect their parents religion but as far as their customs, they are free to follow whatever they choose to.
Now, maybe in an islamic country, that could be true but you have to be more specific tiny tim!
your stupidity just boggles the mind but i think it's because you have not reached puberty yet!

Rowdy Boots| 12.30.11 @ 8:53PM

Actually D Red,

To be a Muslim, one just has to sympathize with terrorists like you and other Obama-ites.

Have a nice day

Oldefarte| 12.30.11 @ 4:17PM

Well TLP.......GD AMERICA [as Jerry Wright would declare to adult congregant Barry]!!!!

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 12:18PM

This is Timothy Pennell's issue - he doesn't know anything, but he's heard something somewhere and tells us here - 1/2 truths and innuendo become facts in his head. Then, when you counter them with facts he goes on his ad hominem attacks to shut down discussion. It doesn't work, but he just doesn't get it. The truth is calming and revealing ... try it Timmy, you might feel better.

perp| 12.30.11 @ 12:28PM

The game is over purp. By next year the big O will be all to well known.

Oh and:

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Purp| 12.30.11 @ 10:30PM

you're still sick

Bruno's Pet| 12.31.11 @ 9:08AM

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You're projecting again.

Oldefarte| 12.30.11 @ 4:13PM

Better revisit your source information since Barry attended constantly Muslim mosques while living with his mother in Indonesia. Also, have you read his book 'DREAMS....' by chance? If he's a grown man as you indicate, then why does he constantly feel the need to play golf and shoot hoops, instead of DOING HIS JOB AS PRESIDENT??????????

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 6:24PM

When they talk of Job Growth, they are talking about PRIVATE Sector jobs, but that wouldn't fit your little world of BAD OBAMA, now would it?
If YOU did any real homework, you wouldn't need the media to feed you numbers - you can get the FACTS yourself - but you're the typical lazy, right-wing red neck that blames everyone else for your life, sad sack that you are. Too bad you don't improve yourself... Getting angry sure doesn't do it, Sunshine...

Stormy| 12.30.11 @ 10:00AM

It's simply a matter of uncertainty with this administration. Businesses can not invest with any certainty that taxes and regulations won't change often on a dime. Successful businesses operate on a medium to long term basis, not a current month to month basis. It often takes a longer period for a business, as much as one to two years, to get a return on an investment or business expansion, even if there is a demand for goods and services at the time. There are new regulations being spewed out of this administration every day, along with the threat of increased taxes, so businesses opt to a holding action. This is basic economics in a capitalistic society. In short, you can't successfully operate and expand a business, when the government in place is anti-business. The only thing with any certainty with this administration is that it will harm private business with its regulatons and taxes.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 12:21PM

Have you considered the uncertainty that comes with shutting the government down or defaulting on our debts, thereby lowering our credit rating? Many small business owners will tell you, taxes and regulations have little if any effect on their plans for hiring new people. What does affect their decision is whether they have CUSTOMERS with money to spend to buy their products. No money, no customer, no spending, no business, no new jobs .. it's a very simple cycle.

Nunya| 12.30.11 @ 12:50PM

Purp, Wrong again! Taxes and regulations have "little if any effect" on small business?? Really?? Have you ever RUN a business?? You obviously have NO knowledge of exactly how much taxes and regulation ABSOLUTELY DO effect how small businesses run--as well as the trickle-down effects on the common consumer.

You're either lying on purpose, or you really are an idiot. Frankly, I think it's the former.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 3:02PM

Yes, I have and I hired employees when I had more than I can handle in sales/business - what I would pay in taxes has nothing to do with hiring people. Interesting how you cut off my words to make your own point. Did you learn that on Fixed News?
I didn't say taxes have little effect on small business - what I said was "taxes and regulations have little if any effect on their plans for hiring new people. ", which is quite different.
If you're going to debate, try being truthful, it might give you some credibility - which right now, you have neither. YOU obviously don't understand that customers make a business and everything else is the cost of doing business, period - some to benefit, some not. It's that simple - go do some homework and learn something, then come back and open your piehole when you know something, Chuckles.

perp| 12.30.11 @ 4:10PM

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You can think like Purp too. All you have to do is have a lobotomy.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 10:31PM

oh, something new ... thought that up all by yourself, didya ... moronic statements all.

Oldefarte| 12.30.11 @ 4:19PM

Yep, you're right....and no customers with no money in theor pockets thanks to Barack Hussein Obama and his H&C bullexcrement!!!!!!!!

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 6:25PM

Bush killed the economy, not Obama ... 780,000 jobs/month were being lost when Bushie left office. But he'd been losing jobs monthly since 2007 - those are facts, pesky I know, and they hurt because your boy did it, but there you have it. Go look it up for yourself.

VBMax| 12.30.11 @ 10:10AM

"we have had 21 months of positive job growth"
The above statement is Orwellian Newspeak.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 2:51PM

Take a look at the graphs toward the end .... Orwellian my foot. Facts just don't fit the Republicant narrative, but they are still the facts, Sunshine.

zoiram| 12.30.11 @ 4:15PM

they don't want to see that, didn't you know that by now. when he came into office, 700,000 jobs were lost in the month of december of '08, averaging well over 400,000 jobs per month, every single month in the red as far as jobs was concerned. now we have companies hiring again, in the black every month but they refuse to see that.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 6:28PM

You are right - it doesn't fit the fantasy that Fixed News feeds these poor uninformed souls. On top of that, they won't google it for themselves - in 15-20 minutes tops they can verify an awful lot of facts all by themselves. But I guess it's easier for them to trust a media empire that has their own agenda than to trust their own eyes. They must be lazy - they sure can be loud tho.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 12:14PM

So you prefer to follow the GW Bush policy plan that got us here in the first place? Go for it. The American people rejected him and will again. Sounds like you're getting a little irritated and upset - I must be tweaking your belief system with truth and facts that you simply cannot handle. Well, that's your problem, and not my problem to solve. Go learn something and turn off Fixed News.

perp| 12.30.11 @ 4:12PM

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Purp just recites from his paper. He is just a zombie stumbling through the pages. He is dead and doesn't know it.

Oldefarte| 12.30.11 @ 4:23PM

Damn, and I thought it was the fault of the 1977 CRA that the Democrats legislated, along with their Great Society and War On Poverty programs. Shazam, it's all Bush's fault.....really? Jack & Jill went up the hill to fetch a pale of water no doubt also right???????

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 6:29PM

Actually, it's probably George Washington's fault for allowing this country to have freedom - freedom to be stupid, ignorant, biased, prejudiced, nasty, greedy, selfish, lazy all a the same time - there were called Conservatives...

VonMisesJr| 12.30.11 @ 9:03AM

Mr. Babbin is spot on with outlining the financial slavery being imposed on the middle class. But with all due respect, it is the laws and bureauacracy that have been put in place in the last three years that will destroy our American Exceptionalism, not just Obamanism.
ObamaCare, affactionately referred to as the "Provisional Personhood and Annulment of the Constitution Act" (PPACA) does not only bankrupt us, it reduces us to subjects.
Frank Dodd "Too big to gail" created five superbanks to go along with our supercommittee. Does anyone smell a foul odor of Hegel's "Superman?" Barry would certainly claim Hillary and he are part of Woody Wilson's "IntelligentFew." If so, then I guess we are "Noble Savages" or a "Bewildered Herd." And we all know that is Perp and his friend Red Bull, or whatever.
EPA budget was raised by some 75% I think in the last couple years. They now own your property, you are just a squatter.

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 9:17AM

why would job creators invest when demand for goods and services is weak ? someone please explain .

Indiana Alex| 12.30.11 @ 9:36AM

The demand side arguement is something this administration, and even the previous one has attempted to address. It has not been successful, and these results are typical.

Think of the demand for Ipads threee years ago. There was none, because none existed.

"Job Creators" will invest, with risk, to produce something for which demand doesn't exist, or where demand is weak.

The problem, in the current environment, is that they cannot properly calculate the potential return, which increases the risk.

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 11:23AM

alex its hard to afford an ipad when your unemlployed or working at wal-mart . do you know any poor people ? my wifes ipad was assembled in china how has that helped our unemployment problem ?

George S| 12.30.11 @ 6:03PM

What unemployment problem? You previously posted (from your iPad, I presume) we had 21 month of positive job growth.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 10:33PM

Job Growth does not equal full employment, now does it? Or maybe in your little head it just might. You do know the difference - yes?

jmulcahy| 12.30.11 @ 9:38PM

Miss Verdad,

Do you really believe that all the profit in making an Ipad is shipped to China where they assemble it? The software, the branding, that is the high-value content, stays in the US. Apple ships out the low-value business to lower the cost of its product to consumers thereby allowing more consumers to afford to buy it. This is a good thing for consumers of ipads.
More high-value jobs are created in the US by the increased demands for ipads. The problem is that the public education system in the US (of which I assume you are a beneficiary of) has let us down. Not enough Americans are learning the proper skills to take up those high-valued jobs. Hence, we have an increasing gap between the wealthy and the poor. Which party is the great defender and financier of the NEA and the public education system while sending their children to ritzy private schools? Why it is Obama and the Democrats! By the way, both Hong Kong and Singapore have higher Gini co-efficients than the US does and both are pretty nice places to live. They also have better public education systems than we do.

So, unfortunately, your support of Obama is to blame for the unemployment problem.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 6:31PM

That's not a job creator - that's an innovator... the job creators are those that take an innovation and scale it up .. and therefore need employees to do the work. But without customers, there is no need to scale, ergo no hiring, no jobs. simple.

George S| 12.30.11 @ 9:44AM

Why is the demand for goods and services weak? Look at it this way: suppose there is a mugger standing outside your door threatening to kill you if you step outside. So you do not go out; you hide in fear inside your house. Meanwhile the deli owner, the dry cleaner and other small business owners who you do business with say "where is pggyverdad and why isn't s/he spending money anymore?"

Think about it.

PolishKnight| 12.30.11 @ 10:01AM

Ipads are a great example. I think Apple moved their programming department back to the states but until recently, it was in India. Many companies are happy to move production over to India or bring in H1B's because they love the double dip: Meeting their "diversity" quota/goal (translation: fewer whites and/or males) AND saving money. The latter is a myth. Just like Chinese drywall and poison catfood and baby formula, you GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!

I've worked for white men with higher degrees (and military backgrounds) who gush with admiration for third world sweatshops and wish to create the same situation and then say they're voting Republican because, hey, we have to stop tax increases on millionaires who are doing so much good for us. Yes, I know that sounds like OWS dirty hippie trash, but it's hard to respect these people when they engage in the most ruthless, and illegal behavior they can get away with. Forged H1B's? NO PROBLEM! Hire illegals to do the plumbing and construction who then go out and engage in identity theft? It's all profit! What's the difference between these jokers and the turn-of-the-century-steel-mill barons who dumped their chemicals in groundwater and then set up their mansions away from the pollution and said: "Not MY problem!"

Ann Coulter is bemoaning in her latest column how a "successful businesswoman" such as Carly Fiorina lost her election bid with "her" money in California. Hint: Carly laid off middle class tech workers, sent the work over to India, and threw a formerly great company into the toilet while flying around on a private jet. For some reason, they didn't want to vote her into office. Sorry, Carly, YOUR JOB was outsourced to someone else!

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 10:57AM

polish knight great post but you dont want to confuse these right win ideologues.

George S| 12.30.11 @ 5:51PM

High paying U.S. factory jobs. U.S. factories that do not pollute. Low cost factory goods.

Pick any two.

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 10:16AM

its hard to buy goods and services when your making 7.50 an hour but nice try . its has little to do with fear.

George S| 12.30.11 @ 5:45PM

Then ask for a raise (don't be afraid). All you have to do is tell your employer to triple the price they charge for their goods or services. Then with that extra money you could get a raise. Easy, no?

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 6:33PM

Not without a union, you have absolutely no leverage ... unless you are so critical to the business, then you can name your salary - and ya, THAT is easy.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 10:37PM

So why does anyone work ? If anyone ever, anywhere is going to be taxed, why bother? Just be afraid and stay in your corner - buy nothing, eat nothing, go nowhere - yeah you righties are soooo good at proposing absolute analogies, but they are so ridiculous to be laughable. No businessman curtails his business because he might have to pay tax on the income.
Do you refuse a raise at work because you tax bracket might rise? Of course not, that's ridiculous. The government doesn't even take 20% of most people's income - you would give up 80% or more income because the government is going to tax you 20% or so? That's just plain idiotic on it's surface.

VonMisesJr| 12.31.11 @ 9:18AM

It works like this piggyherdad. When demand is weak, people save their money. Prices drop and people finally decide they want the lower priced private sector goods and start buying the goods they desire. The people with money then finance the new products and make profits. It is called supply side (or private investment).

Your dopey solution is to have the government confiscate the private wealth that would have been saved and invested, and spend it on crap nowbody wants, like the Volt or Solyndra solar panels, or guns for Mexican drug gangs through "fast and furious."

I understand that even if you could grasp this, you would reject it. So I respond for the good people at TAS that are not trolls and do not have time to read Von Mises and Hayek since perhaps the Obama regime has not outsourced their jobs. But fortunately, by reading Austrian Economics, I can make money investing and don't have to rely on Soros for a paycheck.

Indy| 12.30.11 @ 9:40AM

But we all know the message we will continue to hear from the "Media" - President Obama is the champion of the middle class and so many will believe that, our education system is poor, critical thinking is lacking, many uninformed people vote

Many employers are waiting to hear the SCOTUS ruling on ObamaCare and the outcome of the election before making critical business decisions.

PolishKnight| 12.30.11 @ 10:04AM

Indy, a friend of mine observed that advertising is usually the opposite of the truth of something obvious that they want to brag about but don't have anything better to say:

"Come to Red Lobster where the seafood is great!" (really, they have seafood there?)

or:

"Ride in the new luxury seats in business class at American. It's like being in a luxury hotel room!" (Er, I've been in luxury hotel rooms and I don't have 10 people around me and a bed that I can barely fit into)

The "party of the middle class" rhetoric indicates just the opposite: The Dems are the party of the unionized government worker, the wealthy cronies getting kickbacks, and the ultra poor. And they know it. So they hope to still fool a few grandkids whose parents voted for FDR because they bought in that rhetoric nearly a century ago.

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 10:13AM

demographics are against you polish knight were still waiting for those job creators to solve our unemployment problems. greed and weak demand stand in their way. also you hate obama so much you would rather see the economy tank then his reelection . right ?

PolishKnight| 12.30.11 @ 10:22AM

Surprisingly enough, I didn't really mind it that much when he won the first time. I felt that McCain wouldn't do much better and would just weaken and betray the Republican/conservative brand. We've had two sets of moderate presidents in the Bushes and that hasn't worked out.

It's quite clear at this point that if Obama wins reelection, the economy won't suddenly transform into Sweden. As long as the government blows a trillion MORE every 2 or three months just to keep the economy from tanking, it won't recover. And with that kind of tenuous hold on a weak economy, tanking is just a matter of time and the longer he's in office, the MORE Obama OWNS it.

In the meantime, the illegals that Obama plans to use as future Democrat voters aren't very well off under him. Without full amnesty, they HAVE to work and those jobs are increasingly worthless thanks to Obamaflation with skyrocketing food prices.

So no, I'm not a blind hater of Obama and Republican cheerleader ready to pull the lever on whatever Republican wins the primary. I'm very willing to consider staying home next election cycle and ride it out (I'll probably do a write in for "None of the above" just to make sure I registered my dissent.)

One thing is for sure: the left will NOT give up Sweden. They'll give us Detroit and Chicago. Whomever thinks that's paradise good for them. It's not that difficult to achieve.

Indy| 12.30.11 @ 11:39AM

Messaging indeed...we all hear, the Dems support working families, I'm so tired of that expression. My familiy members have always worked hard, some are skilled trade workers, others have college degrees working as engineers, scientists, entrepreneurs, but none would be considered "working families" by the Left's definition because we are all non union and we are conservatives.

As part of my self-education, I continue to read about FDR's time in office, funny when you read his own words and compare it to what I was taught in school, there is so much more I was never taught...such as his Second Bill of Rights. If you have kids, read their history books, point out the gaps and progressive slants.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 10:42PM

Well you are wrong - only 7% of working people are in unions. And, at least by the last election, 53% of the working people supported the Democrats.
With regards to FDR, the second bill of rights was a good idea, but after all you righties called the GI Bill welfare - you know that little program for WWII veterans that educated millions of veterans and helped create the broad middle class in the 50's, 60's and 70's ? Welfare for the people that spilt blood to keep our country and the world safe from Naziism ...

Indy| 12.31.11 @ 10:23AM

Purp, - You missed my point, I was talking about messaging. When Democrats are in front of the cameras and talk about working families, who is usually there? Andy Stern (prior to leaving SEIU), Richard Trumka, i.e. Big Labor. My perception is that Democrats clearly speak of working families as union employees (frequently citing teachers, police, firefighters and nurses) who created the middle class. I understand you have a different opinion and that’s fine, each of us form our own opinions, again I am speaking about messaging, certainly the middle class is made up of many non-union families and there were many different groups who contributed to the growth of the middle class. “And, at least by the last election, 53% of the working people supported the Democrats.” You mean the 2008 Election, what happened in November 2010, not just national elections but state results? Who knows what will happen in 2012, time will tell.

Yes, I am well aware union membership is ~7% of which the largest portion is public sector unions and they are a large part of the base of the Left. While the private sector union membership has decreased, public sector unions continue to expand. Here’s a recent example of AFSCME and SEIU plans – anyone else concerned about this?

“the vision of the Association of Federal, State, County & Municipal Employees (AFSCME) and the Service Employees International Union (SEIU). They have succeeded in unionizing home-based childcare providers in 14 states, and are working hard to add to that list.” http://pjmedia.com/blog/meet-y.....epage=true

I didn’t say anything about the GI Bill so I’m not sure why you brought that into the discussion, you don’t even know my position on the GI Bill. Many of our veterans, especially from WWII – my family included, worked hard to build the middle class and are shocked to see how so many young adults and students believe they are entitled to a job, a house and certain income level. Equal opportunities yes, equal outcomes, no.

I was speaking about FDR’s second bill of rights, below is an excerpt of the speech he made to Congress on January 11, 1944. I hope TAS has a piece on this address on the upcoming anniversary. It would be good to have a discussion on where do our rights come from? The source of our rights is at the heart of the differences between conservatism and progressivism.

“On January 11, 1944, in the midst of World War II, President Roosevelt spoke forcefully and eloquently about the greater meaning and higher purpose of American security in a post-war America. The principles and ideas conveyed by FDR's words matter as much now as they did over sixty years ago, and the Franklin D. Roosevelt American Heritage Center is proud to reprint a selection of FDR's vision for the security and economic liberty of the American people in war and peace.

“The Economic Bill of Rights”
Excerpt from President Roosevelt's January 11, 1944 message to the Congress of the United States on the State of the Union
It is our duty now to begin to lay the plans and determine the strategy for the winning of a lasting peace and the establishment of an American standard of living higher than ever before known. We cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our people—whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth—is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.
This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rights—among them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.
As our nation has grown in size and stature, however—as our industrial economy expanded—these political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.
We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. “Necessitous men are not free men.” People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.
In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.
Among these are:
The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
America’s own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for our citizens.
http://www.fdrheritage.org/bill_of_rights.htm

Before even getting to the list of economic rights - Did you catch these phrases “This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rights”
“As our nation has grown in size and stature, however—as our industrial economy expanded—these political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.”

“certain inalienable political rights”, and “these political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.” really? Let’s go to the source, the Declaration of Independence

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” Our Founders did not speak of political rights, why did FDR add that word? Individual liberty allows us to pursue happiness, there is no guarantee we will be happy that part is up to us. We must have equal opportunities but that will never translate into equal outcomes, nor should it.

A quick search and you can hear the 2001 audio of Barack Obama describing the Constitution as a document of "negative liberties" and he views this as a limitation because it does not say what the government can do for us. So you can see why he is in alignment with FDR. From an American Thinker Article “Notions like "positive liberty" are part of the web of thought control by language manipulation which Orwell described in 1984. How can liberty be anything other than negative? Liberty is the absence of external control. Only in our age of collective thinking and untidy language could such a thing as "positive liberty" be conceived. The state power to coerce is not liberty.”

Sorry for the long post but one last comment. You may want to check your spelling, Nazism is correct not "Naziism"…no worries, I make plenty of typos and I’m sure this was a simple typo but since you pride yourself on knowing so many facts, I just wanted to point out the correct spelling.

Have a good day and Happy New Year!

joanne| 12.30.11 @ 9:58AM

Hopefully the public is waking up to the fact that this agitator in chief wants more govt., couldn't give a rats behind for the middle cleass or anyone but himself.
He is divisive, arrogant, a socialist, and this in NOT AMERICA.
He's got to go.big time.

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 10:08AM

how then do you explain why the house gop members refused to pass the payroll tax holiday extension pased by senate republicans ? how are you looking out for the middle class ? please be specific.

billg| 12.30.11 @ 10:47AM

Piggy,
Because they passed one that lasted for 12 months instead of 2. Isn't 12 more than 2. Can you understand the "new" math concepts? And an extension of UE benefitsas well... You must be joking.

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 11:03AM

gee billg the bill was a compromise voted on and passed by the senate uncluding 39 republican senators. if it had not passed your taxes would have gone up . is that what you wanted ? they will negoitiate to extend the tax holiday for the rest of the year.

Tim the Enchanter| 12.30.11 @ 11:00AM

The House GOP wanted the extension for a YEAR, not a measly two months. They knew this was a political game, and for a while, refused to play. Twit.

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 11:13AM

tim the republicans proved what we all know. if was a tax cut for the wealthy house gop would have passed it immediately . who are you trying to fool . the gop could care less about the middle class and the poor .this proved it.

PolishKnight| 12.30.11 @ 12:22PM

I think the Republicans holding off on this was a mistake. Let the tax cut expire again in 2 months and then have another debate over it. The more talk they make throughout the next year about tax cuts AND raising the ceiling on the debt the more it hurts Obama. Obama's burning through so much money that he needs to max out a new credit card on average every 3 months or so. That's going to happen all the way through to the Mayan new millennium!

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 10:46PM

Tim, Tim, Tim - the House didn't even want ANY tax cut extension 2 weeks before they said they were for it. It was President Obama's decision in September for the one year extension, but your boys in the R Senate would only go for 2 months, so they passed it. Meanwhile in TeaPartyland in the House, they passed a fantasy bill that extended it 12 months, reduced unemployment benefits, forced the unemployed to have a drug test, forced them to sign up for the GED training - you call that small government? It went nowhere in the Senate and was rejected.
Learn the facts before you open your trap. It's getting too easy to shoot y'all down.

Stan Redmond| 12.30.11 @ 12:24PM

This wasn't a tax holiday. This bill was total crap. It was more of the same crap and tricks the democrats have been using for the past 3 years. More spending and more taxes (mortgage fee etc). It's taking the phony money out of Social Security anyway so in theory Uncle Obama would just be taking your future money and giving it to you now.

There was ZERO structural changes in this bill. More of the same which has failed. Since you ask what "I" would do... Sign bills in to law that get the federal government off the backs of everyone. Middle class, poor, rich, everyone.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 10:42PM

He's winning the argument, that's all that's got your goat.

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 10:03AM

its interesting that when confronted with the truth you on the right have no answers . again were still waiting for the non job creators to create more private sector jobs. boehner promised this when the bush tax cuts were extended. you blame obama and regulations but in truth demand is weak . if the private sector cant create enough jobs the government has to be the employer of last resort. the jobs program proposed by obama has the support of the american people but you on the right will do anything to screw up the economy your hatred for obama is that great . prove me wrong.

Indiana Alex| 12.30.11 @ 10:29AM

I would suggest that you have been proven wrong. This administrations policies are producing the same results that have been produced when implemented in the past.

The middle class suffers most when the brain donors in Washington believe they have the power to "create jobs" through their masterful manipulations.

The goal of this Administration is not to create jobs, but to create "fairness".

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 11:07AM

indiana alex the statistics prove you wrong . please do some research . we have had 21 straight months of positive job growth and 3 million jobs have been added . where do you get this fairness idea ? fox news ? do some research. do you care if the economy improves or are you more interested in defeating obama ?

Drunken Sailor| 12.30.11 @ 1:53PM

You do realize that this still results in a net loss don't you?
Here's a summary of data from the BLS (Bureau of Labor Statistics). All numbers lost to the "trough" of the recession reflect jobs lost between the time Obama took office and the lowest point of the recession:

Seasonally adjusted:
All jobs lost from the time Obama took office to "trough" (bottom of recession): 4,309,000
All jobs gained since "trough": 1,797,000
Net loss in seasonally-adjusted jobs: 2,512,000

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 10:57PM

Link please?

Bruce Berger| 1.2.12 @ 2:21PM

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost

Since you are too lazy to do it yourself I will give you the lowlights.

Per the survey of US establishments, US non-farm payroll has gone from 133,563,000 in January, 2009 to 131,708,000 in November 2011, a decrease of 1,855,000 jobs. If you prefer the household survey employment has gone from 142,201,000 in January 2009 to 140,580,000 in November, 2011 for a decrease of 1,621,000 employed. Meanwhile, from the same household survey the number of unemployed Americans has gone from 11,984,000 in January, 2009 to 13,303,000 in November, 2011 for an increase of 1,319,000. The number of discouraged workers, those who have given up looking for work, has increased from 734,000 to 1,096,000.

Do you still want to try to spin the yarn that there are 3 million more jobs since Obama took office?

I don't know where in the heck you got that claim from, but facts are stubborn things.

rhoetus| 12.30.11 @ 2:21PM

Federal government jobs do not create wealth and grow the economy. Look up "Broken Window Thoery".

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 10:49PM

No, but they give people a job to make money so they can eat and pay taxes again and get you off their back. For all the above, temp government jobs are useful until the private sector rebounds. Are you all that dense?

rhoetus| 12.30.11 @ 11:01PM

Government jobs destroy wealth and the probability that the private sector actually does rebound.

Sue| 12.31.11 @ 10:38AM

Uhhh, let's see Mr. Purp: And the jobs are handed out by whom and to whom? Those who are politically connected and graduates of what colleges? Are you that dense? It's not a lottery the government operates with your capital - encouraging fairness and equality - it's power they grab and maintain. Again, are you that dense?

Sue| 12.31.11 @ 10:47AM

Now this is funny! The economy will improve when he's defeated. He's "Carter," "Carter," "Carter," "FDR," "FDR," "FDR," "LBJ," "LBJ," "LBJ." Where's Obama? It's like asking, "where's Waldo." When was the last time (or first time) anyone heard him speak gloriously about capitalism, America, or anything?

He has employed 15 czars, numerous commissions, spent $1T, and what do we have for it? Nothing but a bigger bill coming due right when the baby boomers are retiring. Not to mention the Fed Res. devaluing our currency, the Community Reinvestment Act, (which is give poor people housing they can't afford on your dime), a healthcare law that will add trillions in new taxes, on healthcare, mind you, so where's "Obama?" On vacation, of course.

Indy| 12.30.11 @ 11:46AM

Reid is tabling bills passed by the House, he won't bring them to the floor to debate, amend and vote. The jobs program proposed by Obama is vote buying. Funding for teachers, police and other first responders should be at the local and state level...our property and sales taxes are meant for these jobs. Sen. Mark Pryor, Dem from Arkansas was the only one with the courage to say that those jobs are typically funded by state / local. We saw what happened with the stimulus bill, when the money ran out, public sector employees were laid off in many states because they could not come up with the money.

We are broke, printing more money kicks the can down the road and makes the fiscal cuts more severe...it will have to happen, the question is do we put our country first now? or wait until we are Greece...it is much closer than you think.

Stan Redmond| 12.30.11 @ 12:29PM

XL pipeline. Fracking... Oil and gas exploration...Energy / electricity production

Are you saying oil and electricity are in poor demand? Last I checked I am spending more money than ever on gasoline with crap 10% ethanol because of government regulations. The democrats in particular have done everything in their power, legally and illegally, to block ANY energy production. Shall we visit mining regulations? Timber harvesting? Manufacturing regulations. Why the hell is there a federal mandate placed on a toilet?

Drunken Sailor| 12.30.11 @ 2:08PM

"the jobs program proposed by obama "

Would that be the same jobs program that he couldn't even get his own party to vote on?

Petronius| 12.30.11 @ 10:14AM

To the Demoncrats, the "middle class" is a dicotomy as an political construct. They speak well and lovingly of it when advocating policies that would adopt it as client dependents and despise it when they see the achievers among its numbers attempting to accumulate enough wealth to escape from under their dictatorial heels and leave them and all the lowlife they whore for votes in their dust.

PolishKnight| 12.30.11 @ 10:35AM

Petronius, want a laugh? Check out this URL on cnn.com bemoaning layoffs in the ideal leftist "middle class" household. They are so full of themselves they don't even see the joke:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/.....=allsearch

THAT'S what the left means by "middle class".

Socialism "works" not by taxing the wealthy but rather by starving to death their opposition. This is what happened in Ukraine in the 1930's. In their eyes, two parent heterosexual families working in private industry are the "enemy" and they giggle when they read of the hardships they're suffering and hope they get enough of the rubes to buy into their "middle class" rhetoric or cast another vote for the ghost of FDR.

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 11:09AM

really ? i needed a laugh this morning . thanks.

Maximus_Prime| 12.30.11 @ 11:27AM

I hate to use Alinsky but here goes:
"The key to radical social change," wrote Stanley Kurtz in his Alinsky biography "Radical-in-Chief," "was to turn the wrath of America's middle class against large corporations."
The Prez. has used every trick in Alinsky's book to change America. Don't believe me check:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.....indid=2314 which is Alinsky's profile and a primer on what Obama HAS done and will do next.

Oldefarte| 12.30.11 @ 11:30AM

I discovered the following almost a year ago prior to Christmas 2010, and sadly it is even more applicable today at this time [and will be more so in the coming year]. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL! :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLlF5YMf7Yc

Oldefarte| 12.30.11 @ 11:34AM

PS: Great editorial Ross [as usual], possibly one of your best!!!!!!!!

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 10:58PM

You would think so ... blockheads unite

Tony| 12.30.11 @ 11:38AM

And there's this too: the hatred of the mores of the middle class. Right now we have a miserable and misery-making alliance between the overschooled and the underschooled (note that I didn't write "overeducated," because they aren't necessary well educated). Everything that would strengthen the family -- um, let's say, retreat from society-ruining feminism -- they oppose, and keep trumpeting the glory of single-mother families among the poor.

Bob Grant| 12.30.11 @ 12:10PM

The bottom line is republicans MUST do a better job at destroying the Keynesian Multiplier Effect theory.

They have failed miserably explaining why this fantasy thinking does not work, and in fact, destroys economies.

It's telling that Nancy Pelosi thinks she can get away with holding a press conference and state (without laughing) that it's the government's job to give money to people, and it's the people's job to turn around and spend it in order to grow the economy without ANY ONE holding her accountable for such irresponsible statements.

You see, Nancy Pelosi and her ilk understand the IGNORANCE of the American electorate and TAKE FULL advantage of it.

The republicans fail because they pay too much attention to what citizens FEEL or THINK when they should be focusing on WHAT THEY KNOW!!!

Republicans should first: (A) poll the s**t out of Americans on WHAT THEY KNOW, economically speaking....then (B) based on that data devise a strategy to educate, educate, educate, educate!!!!

Until we do this, republicans will be spinning their wheels in the ditch, and pulling out what's left of their hair.

rhoetus| 12.30.11 @ 1:59PM

Bob, The leadership of the Republican Party supports Keynes' theories. The Progressive era institutions are firmly in control of our government and banking system. That's why I am voting for Ron Paul.

Bob Grant | 12.31.11 @ 5:16PM

...aaaand Obama will thank you a year from now.

cicero| 12.30.11 @ 12:45PM

First off, comparing this administration to drunker sailors is grossly unfair to the sailors. They stop spending once they run out of money.
The unemployment numbers are misleading,att best. Once the unemployed worker falls off benefit rolls, he is off of the unemployed rolls, too, The fact that he/she has exhausted their weeks (years) of unemployment benefits does not necessarily mean that he/she has found employment. The actual unemployment rates are higher than being reported.
You are absolutely correct on the economic ignorance of the populace. One of my (beloved) sons in law is the director of IT in a school district. Therefore, he is highly educated (trained), and credentialed. Over the weekend he was positing that the OWS crowd should be supported and given credit for picketing those greedy Wall Street folks, because they were controlling Congress. When informed that the CEOs of Chase and Goldman were not losing their jobs, or even sleep as a result of the demonstrations, he drew a blank. I suggested that the picketing would be more effective if it were staged in front of the home offices of the local congressperson, as they might actually lose voter support. He had never thought of that.
We are in such trouble as a notion. Unless and until we wrest control of the education of our citizens from the government, our slide will not be uphill.

Drunken Sailor| 12.30.11 @ 1:55PM

On behalf of Drunken Sailors everywhere. Thank You, Cicero

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 2:06PM

its hilarious how you folks on the right demonize obama but never state which pathetic candidate you support. do you support flipflopper romney who has experience firing workers while at bain capital . or do you support the serial adulterer flipflopper newt ? your candidates are a disgrace . idont blame you for not wanting to state your preference .

Boar Hunter| 12.30.11 @ 3:17PM

I'll take, Clinton was a what? for 20.

Obama used which drugs? hung out with which racists and terrorists?

"We" are hilarious?

At least "we" have the dignity to recognize and condemn the faults of those attempting to gain our support. Seriously, from your perspective, Obama exemplifies just what virtues exactly?

Romney fired people? You are pathetic. Obama has put and kept hundreds of thousands out of work and crickets is all we hear from your side.

A flip flopper, seriously that's the best you can come up with?

You and all the rest of your vile hate filled ilk in the flea and locust class, you who are liars and lovers of lies, you who embrace evil in all it's forms are beyond the contempt of any right thinking American.

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 4:37PM

who are you going to vote for ? romney who has no core values and will say anything to try and win . is that really who want to lead the free world ? or newt who is a seraial adulterer ? how many adulterous affairs would he have had to have before he would no longer be acceptable as a candidate ? your candidates only get crazier from there .i notice you didnt express your preference . iwould be embarrassed too.

George S| 12.30.11 @ 5:42PM

Since when does adultery disqualify anyone from the presidency? Do they have to be found in contempt of court by pleading no contest to perjury? No, not even that. Only Republicans have to have any standards. Right?

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 10:59PM

You people set the standard for yourselves ... we just hold you to them. We don't set the same standards and you can't stand it.. that is all.

Sue| 12.31.11 @ 11:03AM

Hmmmm. I'm trying to figure our which "free world" you're talking about. The elitists seem to be doing a pretty rotten job "leading" it now.

I find it humorous that the party hacks "hold" Republicans to the standards they set for themselves, but have no standards of their own. Yep! That's exactly the kind of leadership I'm searching for - a moral relativist who thinks anything goes. That's who I want taxing me and spreading my wealth (profit) around. It will surely benefit me thousands of times over than electing someone, anyone, who has some value system no matter how compromised it is in the eyes of the moral relativist.

Yep! We've got women killing their babies coming through the birth canal, right when the baby's head crowns, a moral relativist says,
"Yep, suck that brain out; it's okay by me;
we have no morals (standards) you see;
Obama is our champion of death;
oh, you want more?
Let's tax the profit out of healthcare you say! That's bound to make us all feel better one day!
The government controls us one and all;
let's be happy, because,
we've finally pursued it to the very end,
the result being that we all have nothing left to tend!
We've murdered our children, grandparents, and more,
This dope has truly helped us open the door!"

Oldefarte| 12.30.11 @ 2:20PM

[BUT W NOR ANY R IS/WAS/EVER WILL BE A 'SOCIALIST', AND THEREIN LIES THE DIFFERENCE AND ANYONE NOT UNDERSTANDING SAME DOES NOT HAVE AN ELEVATOR THAT RISES ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP; AND THE OLLY ONES WATCHING IDOL ETC ARE THE SAME WORTHLESS, BRAIN-DEAD DEMOCRATS THAT REJECT THE NECESSITY OF EARNING, AS OPPOSED TO BEING GIVEN THROUGH GOVERNMENTAL WELFARE, WHAT'S OBTAINED IN LIFE!!!!]: '....Nunya| 12.30.11 @ 11:48AM.W was not a fiscal Conservative, in any shape or form. He was and is a globalist, and his constant spending, while childish and incompetent in comparison to Obozo, proved him to be just another Socialist/Big Government loving piece of crap. Unfortunately, it appears that our only choices are going to be Obozo and a remake of W in Romney. The American people are too busy watching X Factor and American Idol to care about the economic collapse we're staring at, in the face......'
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[FIRST OF ALL, THE PRICE OF OIL IS NOT SUFFICIENTLY EFFECTED BY 'DEREGULATION', BUT INSTEAD BY ITS SUPPLY-SOURCE WHICH IS CONTROLLED BY THE OPEC DOMINATED ARAB COUNTRIES; AND THE DEMOCRATS HAVE HISTORICALLY PREVENTED OUR VAST DOMESTIC SUPPLY OF OIL FROM BEING PRODUCED DUE TO THEIR BEING IN POLITICAL BED WITH THE WACKO ENVIRONMENTALISTS, AND THUS THIS COUNTRY DEPENDS FOR 2/3 OF ITS OIL SUPPLY ON THE MUSLIM DOMINATED ARAB COUNTRIES.....THAT IS WHY THE PRICE/GALLON OF GASOLINE YOU PAY IS $4 PLUS!!!!!]: Tom Osterman| 12.30.11 @ 12:20PM
The point is that GWB and Republicans don't undo the bad policies the Dems put in place; instead, they just add to them, leaving things worse than before....One of Reagan's first acts in office was to deregulate the price of gasoline, over the protests of Dems who said that Big Oil would start "gouging" consumers with sky-high prices. Would Romney be more like Reagan or Bush? A moderate Republican is better than another Democrat only in the sense that he's less bad. At a time like this, that's not nearly good enough.....'

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 2:29PM

your poor keyboard. i pay 3.33 a gallon .so who are you going to vote for ? i know your embarrassed by your candidates . its sad

Oldefarte| 12.30.11 @ 4:29PM

And if it weren't for your favored socialistic Democrat friends and their equally insane, anti-American environmental wacko associates, you'd be paying $1.50/gallon for premium, since the abundant oil supply from our domestic sources of oil produced in this country and not restricted by concerns of the spotted owl or the karabu would result in same or less. Who will I vote for....I haven't decided, but it sure as hades won't be your H&C Savior, that's for sure or anyone else with a '''''D'''''''attahed to their political moniker!!!!!!!

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 4:44PM

do some research mr farte oil prices are established by the world market. given your choice of candidates i would stay home on election day and maybe take an antacid.

Purp| 12.30.11 @ 11:02PM

Let them drill in your backyard, not mine. Then we'll see how high the price is ... abundance is a fantasy, but believe what you will. Fixed Newscasters know oh so much more than geologists and petroleum engineers... yep, that Brett knows his oil...

Tom Osterman| 12.30.11 @ 7:45PM

...and what has the GOP done to free up domestic oil production and refining? The GOP hasn't even made an issue of it, in this campaign or any other, much less during Bush 43's terms or in Congress. You'd think the alleged party of Big Oil would be all over this.

I repeat, just being a Republican isn't enough. We need politicians who get will talk about what needs doing and then will do it once in office.

Matt| 12.30.11 @ 3:51PM

Ross. Get a grip, boy. "Obama and his radical environmentalist and union thug apparatchiks"? Next thing we know, you'll be referring to "Obama and his brown-shirted, jack-booted storm troopers goose-stepping down Main Street to shut down every small business they see".

Sure, National Review exists primarily to serve up raw meat to Democrat haters. But doesn't anyone edit your articles before they're posted?

Stan Redmond| 12.30.11 @ 5:57PM

HAHAHA you just got caught as a cut and paste Obama troll. Are you paid for this?

juandos| 12.30.11 @ 4:15PM

Come on now! Obama's real busy trying to protect the mooselimbs from an intolerant western civilization...

Drunken Sailor| 12.30.11 @ 5:14PM

I love it. Any and every negative Obama article that comes out you get to see all the liberal trolls twist their panties in a knot, unzip the gimp suits, spit out their ball gags and furiously attack. To bad the head gimp is still going to lose.

Pat| 12.30.11 @ 5:51PM

Why do we average Americans need a champion? A Sir Spendalot on his massive war horse fighting to protect the weak from the strong appeals to certain Americans, but mainly to those who believe the government can take money from others and give it to them freely and without obligation. Not in those blunt, ugly words of course – the beautiful dream of our Once and Future President evokes the outworn lie that “income inequality” is a universally acknowledged problem which must be overcome - and overcome at any cost. But most middle class Americans prefer an economy which guarantees income inequality will exist, not as some ugly social disease which must be eradicated but rather as an expected outcome reflecting a healthy economy which offers wealth building opportunities on a scale never seen in past eras.

And Obama is no more a typical middle class American working hard to get by than Donald Trump is your typical middle class real estate salesman. Wealthy and determined to remain so characterizes the Obama family finances. Like the Clintons, the Obamas may have started out middle class but they quickly zoomed past middle-classhood and on into the limousine and country club set. And all courtesy of championing those abused middle class Americans. Funny how that worked out.

Couldn’t us middle class Americans have a champion more like us? Someone who is middle class rather than merely pretending to share our values – and our hardships. But this persistent Arthurian legend Americans subscribe to never dwells on the fact Arthur Pendragon went on to riches and a life of royal comfort after the sword was pulled from the stone – and all those adoring peasants remained dirt poor even though much loved by their valiant champion.

Marc Jeric| 12.30.11 @ 6:09PM

Mulah Obama's recipe for the economic revival is "tax the rich and spread the wealth". The local newspaper here in Las Vegas - the Review-Journal - publishes every week the city map showing house breaks, robberies, car steals, and other crimes. It appears that these Las Vegas criminals are following Obama's recipe for economic growth: they sure are taxing the rich and spreading the wealth around.

pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 9:05PM

marc the idea is to tax the rich to help with the deficit. tell us again why they cant afford ie

Rowdy Boots| 12.30.11 @ 8:43PM

Look, it is very clear that getting rid of the Middle Class is the foremost goal of the Communists...therefore all the proletariat can be happy that no one is better off then they are.

And, they can always hope to join the ranks of the dirty little snitches that can get the neighbors arrested...and sent to...uh...well, some very cold prison for those who defy the GOVERNMENT THUGS.

HAVE A NICE DEPRESSION

USSAlabama| 12.30.11 @ 11:03PM

Okay! What are we going to do about the Troll problem here?

Who enjoys engaging them? Look over the entire comments. Why?

Is anyone, better yet - would everyone - just be willing to not read it if you see the name and recognize it as a troll?

If you cannot just skip over it without replying, could you just not read it so you are not tempted?

They really *will* go away if you ignore them.

POST American| 12.30.11 @ 11:21PM

------------------FINAL WORD 2011-------------------

RETRO-active IMPEACHMENT of our
past 4 CFR-Trilateral vetted, funded, promoted,
authorized and approved front op administrations.

------------------FIRST WORD 2012-------------------

----------HUAC/ Nuremberg and BEYOND----------

Panz| 12.31.11 @ 2:25AM

This article is the perfect example of the problem with the GOP. Americans are busy and most read only headlines if that but for Republicans to make a point, it usually takes 3 or 4 pages to explain it. You will never make headway like that. The DNC is king of the one-liner. They say it in a sentence, true or false, and before long everyone is chanting that sentence. I'm not saying this is a good way to get "news" it's just the way it is.

Sue| 12.31.11 @ 10:30AM

How about: "Change in 2012, or we'll all be in hell, with no hope because of the dope.

martin j smith| 12.31.11 @ 7:57AM

The crucial point is this Obama does not believe in Free Market Capitalism but believes in a form of government that could be descried as Socialistic and even Communistic --that is Government Controlled and One Party Rule. Until a candidate gets up their and says to the American People these are your choices for 2012
( and this is the way I would say they should put it ) Freedom or Slavery--and boy that would be a blast would it not. You the American People must choose. The explain in three points : Government control of your income,government control of your private property and Government control of you health and even your thinking. Which do you want ?

Sue| 12.31.11 @ 10:28AM

Devalue currency, rebate taxes so the people won't notice? Is that the plan? Carter again, again, and again.

Sue| 12.31.11 @ 10:34AM

The rallying cry against the parties: "Change in 2012, or we'll all be in hell,
With no hope,
Because of this dope!

Oldefarte| 12.31.11 @ 12:28PM

Ever hear of economic [business] cycle theory, idiot? Course not, since you're an idiot. Bush didn't kill the economy dumbars; it simply hit a financial wall from decades of Democrat socialist welfare governmental policies [ie Great Society, CRA of 1977, HUD's AFFORDABLE HOMES etc]. It's amazing it didn't occur 15 years ago instead of at the end of Bush's term. Go take a few business economic college courses idiot before you cram you foot, hand and head up you ignorant AH, okay? ['...Purp| 12.30.11 @ 6:25PM Bush killed the economy, not Obama ... 780,000 jobs/month were being lost when Bushie left office. But he'd been losing jobs monthly since 2007 - those are facts, pesky I know, and they hurt because your boy did it, but there you have it. Go look it up for yourself....']

Oldefarte| 12.31.11 @ 12:50PM

Research? Why don't you research the grammatical art of word capitalizatio, perhaps? DA, the world market that you state is OPEC which is a consortium of Arab oil country producers of oil that MONOPOLIZE their oil's output and manipulate its pricing structure, DA. Do you know the difference between free market capitalism and socialistic OPEC style monopoly, DA? No DA I will be crawling to the election polls election day to defeat that domestic terrorist from re-election, DA, that you and yours allowed to trojun-horse capture this country on 11/4/08, DA [pggyverdad| 12.30.11 @ 4:44PM
do some research mr farte oil prices are established by the world market. given your choice of candidates i would stay home on election day and maybe take an antacid.]
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DA, I lived/worked among oil geologists for thirty years in the southern oil patch of this country---don't stupidly tell me about oil geologists' predictions, MORON. Oh and again for your stupidity, if the more than ample supply of offshore US oil was thoroughly produced instead of neglected to protect the spotted oil and karabu's, we'd be able to replace the 2/3 of our oil imports from the ME and also to bankrupt the Arab Muslim terrorists' activities in the process, DA [Purp| 12.30.11 @ 11:02PM
Let them drill in your backyard, not mine. Then we'll see how high the price is ... abundance is a fantasy, but believe what you will. Fixed Newscasters know oh so much more than geologists and petroleum engineers... yep, that Brett knows his oil...]
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Talk to Louisiana ana Alabama's GOP congressmen [along with Democrat Landrieu of Louisiana] about the letters they've written to Interior's Salazar, Justice's Holder and to Obama pleading for them to cease/decist the oil drilling morotoriums/permit slowdowns that this administration has partisanedly administered to politically placate the environmental wackos, okay? Simply google/research this issue and you'll find a ton of factual material relating to just the last three years of this socialist administration's efforts to destroy the domestic oil business. This Democratic Party's efforts to eliminate the US's oil production goes back decades or longer, and is the reason why this country has to buy/import ME oil and consumers pay $4/gallon for gas today. Have you not understood the implication of Obama's/Democrats' efforts to prevent the oil pipeline from Canada from being built? As Forrest Gump indicated, DON'T SPEAK/BLOG STUPIDLY, okay? [Tom Osterman| 12.30.11 @ 7:45PM...and what has the GOP done to free up domestic oil production and refining? The GOP hasn't even made an issue of it, in this campaign or any other, much less during Bush 43's terms or in Congress. You'd think the alleged party of Big Oil would be all over this.I repeat, just being a Republican isn't enough. We need politicians who get will talk about what needs doing and then will do it once in office.]

Tom Osterman| 12.31.11 @ 1:51PM

Is that the best you've got? Congressmen from the Gulf states? Writing to the Secretary of the Interior with no apparent support from the GOP leadership?

Which of the GOP contenders, Romney, Gingrich, Paul, Perry, Bachman, Santorum or Huntsman, has talked about this? What have Boehner or McConnell said? Or Fred "incandescents bad, CFLs good" Upton?

The GOP has allowed the Democrats and their environmentalist allies to all but shut down the domestic oil industry largely by not even trying to stop them or even discuss the issue.

Don't speak/blog stupidly yourself!

russel| 12.31.11 @ 4:46PM

For what it's worth to any of you , here in the Rockies rigs were being stacked even before zero was inaugurated . Operators knew that he had it out for them and it was a waste of money to continue . The enviro's also pack the courts with bs lawsuits . Nope , the only way out is to get rid of them , not any cooperation because they want nothing of that .

Radioman777| 12.31.11 @ 12:55PM

Of course he's no friend to the middle class; what communist is?

Oldefarte| 12.31.11 @ 1:34PM

If you wish to understand WHO/WHAT is ultimately responsible for the election of Obama on 11/4/08, please read the following [and also realize that every time your children pay your hard earned money to attend their movies, and you sit in front of the television watching Oprah or their produced TV shows etc, you are monetarily contributing to OBAMA AND TO DEMOCRATS THROUGH THEIR DNC:

'....Newsmax...Will Hollywood Still Shower the Love on Obama? Saturday, December 31, 2011 07:50 AMBy: NEW YORK — Hollywood, as everyone knows, loves the Next Big Thing. And four years ago, Barack Obama was certainly that: a political supernova, the equivalent of a breakout movie star."He is 'The One,'" declared Oprah Winfrey, his biggest and most influential celebrity champion. "The best candidate I've ever seen," pronounced George Clooney. Halle Berry said she'd "collect paper cups off the ground to make his pathway clear." Black Eyed Peas frontman will.i.am chimed in with the famous "Yes We Can" video. And so on.But you can't be the Next Big Thing twice. And so, with the 2012 vote less than a year away, there's clearly a different mood in heavily Democratic Hollywood: less gushing, not to mention snippets of criticism, most prominently from actor Matt Damon, who campaigned for Obama last time but now makes no secret of his disillusionment."I think he misinterpreted his mandate," Damon said earlier this year, and then recently told Elle magazine the country would have been better off with a one-term president with guts (he used a much saltier word).But while the adulation of the 2008 election may be significantly muted among Hollywood liberals, as with liberals elsewhere, Obama supporters say that's only natural, given the circumstances. Fundraisers there say that events have been selling out and there's plenty of enthusiasm.Most importantly, they add, the nation's attention has been on the battling Republicans. Soon, the choice will get starker and the Democratic base will be energized, they argue."The moment the Republicans have their nominee is when you're going to see anyone still on the fence jump in," says Chad Griffin, a Los Angeles-based communications strategist and Democratic fundraiser. "Once you have a head-to-head matchup, the contrast will be grand."Numbers compiled by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics show that while overall political contributions were up in Hollywood for the first three quarters of this year compared with the same period four years ago, contributions to Democrats were slightly down.According to the group, the movie, television and recording industries — a large chunk of which is Hollywood — gave $17,639,267 in the first three quarters to federal candidates and parties, with 71 percent going to the Democrats and 29 percent to Republicans, as opposed to $15,642,561 four years ago, when 77 percent went to the Democrats and 23 percent to Republicans.But numbers for the Democrats were down by more than $2.5 million from four years ago — $9,249,303 this year compared with $11,966,077 four years ago.Obama's fundraisers note that four years ago, Obama was locked in a tense primary battle with Hillary Rodham Clinton — and primaries drive early fundraising."A re-election is always different," says Andy Spahn, a longtime political adviser to one of the top Democratic fundraisers in the nation, DreamWorks co-founder Jeffrey Katzenberg, along with his partners Steven Spielberg and David Geffen.He calls the current mood among Hollywood Democrats a "matured enthusiasm," but says support is strong.Though Damon's remarks about the president have been the most pointed, other celebrities have expressed disappointment, or at least mild disillusionment."I love the president like most of us," Sean "Diddy" Combs told Source magazine this year. "I just want the president to do better."And will.i.am, creator of that viral video that ended with the word "HOPE," told The New York Times earlier this year: "I don't want to hope anymore." Asked if he was disappointed in Obama, he said: "I don't feel disappointed. I feel like, Argggh! Speak louder! I feel like, Do something!"What about core Obama celebrity supporters Clooney and Winfrey? Far from being disillusioned with Obama, Clooney said recently: "I'm disillusioned by the people who are disillusioned by Obama.""Democrats eat their own," the actor said. "I'm a firm believer in sticking by and sticking up for the people whom you've elected." He went on to list the accomplishments of the Obama administration, wondering why Democrats weren't selling them better.And Winfrey, credited with helping Obama win over many women in 2008, told Politico in August: "I'm in his corner for whatever he needs me to do."There already have been plenty of celebrities hosting or showing up at Obama fundraising events. Actress Eva Longoria hosted one at the home of Melanie Griffith and Antonio Banderas. Lady Gaga attended a September fundraiser at the home of Facebook's chief operating officer, Sheryl Sandberg. Alicia Keys performed at a New York fundraiser.And in the summer, film executive Harvey Weinstein held a Manhattan event sprinkled with celebs including Keys, Jimmy Fallon, and Gwyneth Paltrow and husband Chris Martin. A 50th birthday-themed fundraiser in Chicago featured performances by Jennifer Hudson, Herbie Hancock and the band OK Go.Of course, celebrity support isn't always a win-win for a candidate. Just as Obama's opponents in 2008 tried to use his taste for arugula to paint him as elitist, they tried to use his celebrity connections to imply he was lightweight, all pizazz and no substance — most pointedly in an ad tenuously linking him to Paris Hilton and Britney Spears.The tactic seemed to scare Obama's campaign enough to downplay the role of celebrities at the Democratic convention that summer. Will the campaign similarly seek to downplay the celebrity role this time?"Celebrities are helpful in terms of exciting a base," says Griffin, the fundraiser. "I don't think the president will have any shortage of surrogates."One thing is clear: They won't include Damon, and the president wasn't shy about making a few jokes at the actor's expense back in May, at the White House Correspondents' Association dinner."Matt Damon said he was disappointed in my performance," the president noted. Then he referred to one of Damon's recent films. "Well, Matt, I just saw 'The Adjustment Bureau,' so right back atcha, buddy."Damon, whose representatives did not respond to a request for comment, has given no sign that he plans to do anything as dramatic as switch sides in November. The real danger, say some Obama supporters, is that comments like his would lead voters — especially key younger ones — to stay home.That's a threat the president faces in places well beyond Hollywood.Ken Sunshine, a prominent public relations consultant who has represented top entertainers and politicians, thinks that ultimately "the activist community in entertainment and everywhere else will come home and support the president's re-election with the same degree of enthusiasm as before — if for no other reason than ... consider the alternative!""But once we help him get re-elected," Sunshine adds, "then we really hold his feet to the fire in the second term."...'

shipley130| 12.31.11 @ 3:43PM

Obama seems to be having fun destroying the country he hates.

liberalmann| 1.6.12 @ 7:26PM

And you're a stupid parrot.

Intelligent Design| 1.1.12 @ 8:32AM

Obama is waging war against all American citizens. He's a treacherous impostor.

liberalmann| 1.6.12 @ 7:27PM

And you're a poor excuse for a human being.

martin j smith| 1.1.12 @ 8:55AM

As I have said before the truth is this: The Socialists and Republican Establishment leadershit has colluded and their policies and actions or lack of actions have led to the destruction of this country.
While I have absolutely NO brief for GWB and his father and other fakers on the Republican side, one should not let Obama's actions off the hook. He talks a good game about the " MIddle Class" but he is going to kill the middle class. The one percent will disappear wither abroad or stop productivity and do whatever it takes to survive and then the tax rates on ordinary Americans will be higher than the Alps. Then they will be happy ?
What troubles me amoung other things is this: The candidates whose names are Not Romney have done very little to attack Romney. This bothers me. I do not trsut Romney though in terms of the ballot it might be the only option against Obama. The Republican Brand is on trial because believe me if the Establishment Republicans fail that Party will have to either be far more challenged internally or a third party will be needed to be a viable oppostion Party to Protect the Middle Class.

Louis Jenkins| 1.1.12 @ 11:25AM

Courtesy of Doug Ross at the Journal:

As for President Obama, what can I say?
They say President Obama's arrogant and aloof, but I don't agree.
Now it's true when you enter the room, you have to kiss his ring. I don't mind, but he has it in his back pocket.
His mind is open to new ideas -- so open that ideas simply pass through it.

Obama lies so much, I was actually surprised to find out his first name really was Barack.
Just don't ask about his middle name!
But Obama was able to set a record... he actually lied more in 60 days than Bill Clinton.
As far as his administration -- what with the tax cheat and lobbyists -- well, in the words of Patches O'Houlihan, "It's like watching a bunch of retards trying to hump a doorknob out there."

John| 1.1.12 @ 11:29AM

Mr. Kaminsky certainly knows how easily voters are hoodwinked and he understands the gullibility factor. He acknowledges voter's short memories and their average intelligence. Though his arguments are valid and sound, how could he possibly think that the average voter cares about the year 2020 much less 2014? If hindsight is nearly non-existent then foresight is as equally ignored. The average voter doesn't read The American Spectator.

Edd| 1.2.12 @ 8:11PM

You are correct, we voters are economically stupid and ignorant. The sad thing is the stupidity and ignorance are volitional.

liberalmann| 1.6.12 @ 7:25PM

What a bullshit article.

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