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The Surviving Ron Paul Report

By W. James Antle, III on 12.28.11 @ 6:09AM

Foreign policy, not racism, is the main front in the Paul wars.

Shortly before Christmas, Ron Paul appeared on the Tonight Show, yukking it up with Jay Leno and dishing on his rivals for the Republican presidential nomination. Michele Bachmann, Paul said, “doesn’t like Muslims. She hates Muslims. She hates them.” The Texas congressman agreed with Leno that Rick Santorum is obsessed with certain minority groups: “Gay people and Muslims.”

Three things immediately struck me about Paul’s comments: they are unwise for someone seeking to win a statewide contest in socially conservative Iowa; they are unfair and uncharitable to his colleagues; and they are utterly incongruent with the current flap over his newsletters from the 1990s.

Paul’s instincts don’t jibe with the newsletters’ more offensive material, which in turn have virtually nothing to do with his current appeal. Moreover, if Paul held social views that were unhelpful to his campaign, it is clear he wouldn’t let political considerations keep him from eventually blurting them out.

That’s not to say that the Paul camp’s explanation for the newsletters is satisfactory, especially for what is now a top-tier campaign. Newt Gingrich became the first of the major Republican candidates to go after Paul on this front. “I think it’s very difficult to see how you would engage in dealing with Ron Paul as a nominee,” Gingrich told CNN. “Given the newsletters, which he has not yet disowned.”

Paul has disowned the content in question, even if he hasn’t given a convincing account of its authorship. What vexes the former House speaker is that Paul has also signed his name to some of the most effective anti-Gingrich attack ads running in Iowa. “You look at Ron Paul’s record of systemic avoidance of reality, his ads are about as accurate as his newsletter,” Gingrich complained.

Enter Eric Dondero, a longtime former Paul aide. Like David Stockman on Ronald Reagan and John Dean on Richard Nixon, Dondero has emerged as an insider who can be counted on to give hostile quotes about his old boss, with whom he now disagrees. Whatever can be said about the details of Dondero’s latest statement — in describing others’ views, he doesn’t see a lot of daylight between “pro-defense right-libertarians” and “isolationist/pacifist/surrenderists” — he is surely right that this dispute is less about Paul’s alleged political incorrectness in the ‘90s than his foreign policy views now.

Many of the young supporters drawn to Paul’s message on war and civil liberties had barely been born when Murray Rothbard died. To them, “paleolibertarianism” is more ancient history than the creation of the Federal Reserve. Similarly, the writers most dedicated to digging through the Ron Paul Survival Report archives are almost uniformly foreign policy hawks.

None of this makes exploring a presidential candidate’s past an illegitimate journalistic exercise. Barack Obama had ties to Jeremiah Wright; Rudy Giuliani conducted three hard-fought mayoral campaigns in the period of racial polarization that helped give rise to the Survival Report. If either of them had published incendiary newsletters, it would be worth investigating even if the heavy lifting had to be done by scribes who opposed other aspects of the candidates’ policy agendas.

Moreover, Paul continues to attract some marginal supporters. Some are kooks and 9/11 truthers, despite the obvious intellectual contradictions between “blowback” and conspiracy theories alleging that the 2001 terrorist attacks were an “inside job.” Others are bigots and anti-Semites. Paul remains convinced that it is more important to spread the libertarian gospel than to purge the undesirables in his midst.

Yet it only seems fair to note that today Paul is the lone Republican candidate who talks about the suffering of black Americans under the war on drugs, that he is further removed from the idea that “[c]ops must be unleashed and allowed to administer instant punishment” than any major candidate in either major party. Paul has risen in the polls not because Americans are coming around to his views on past controversies, whether they concern the Civil War or the 1988 Libertarian Party nomination fight, but because they share his belief that the country’s current direction is unsustainable.

Some of Paul’s war-weary voters might even prefer a candidate who broke less radically from the American foreign policy consensus. But the Chuck Hagels and Jon Huntsmans don’t tend to be with them when it counts. They regret their support for the last war and then go on to reluctantly support the next one.

A Republican Party free of racism or bigotry is an admirable goal. A GOP free of meaningful debate on foreign policy is anything but.

About the Author

W. James Antle, III, author of the new book Devouring Freedom: Can Big Government Ever Be Stopped?, is editor of the Daily Caller News Foundation and a senior editor of The American Spectator. You can follow him on Twitter @jimantle.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (315) | Leave a comment Leave a comment

Ctczczer| 12.28.11 @ 6:55AM

The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims.

Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity. In a free market, businesses that discriminate lose customers, goodwill, and valuable employees- while rational businesses flourish by choosing the most qualified employees and selling to all willing buyers. More importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality.

This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct what is essentially a sin of the heart, we should understand that reducing racism requires a shift from group thinking to an emphasis on individualism.”
-Ron Paul, 2002

Jack| 12.28.11 @ 7:07AM

Ron Paul is the only one bringing any new people into the party. He and his ideas plays very well with the young, disaffected Democrats, and Independents. These wars are as popular as cancer. No prowar candidate will come close to beating Obama. especially such chickenhawks like Romney or Gingrich. He also does well in the black community with his emphasis in ending the war on drugs. Why should drug addicts be treated any worse then alcholics? If Rush Limbaugh can walk why shouldn't everyone?

Ron Paul gets huge monetary support from the people who fight and die in our wars. He gets more then all the rest combined. He gets 10 times more then Romney and 100 times more then Gingrich. The people who fight the delusional wars of the neocons deserve and want better Then people like Obama, Romney, and Gingrich.

Occam's Tool| 12.28.11 @ 10:44AM

I loved Paul's "minority" video, with the Rap music asshattery. Stereotypes, anybody?

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 10:58AM

Independent Black Americans ,Who Are Off The Democrat Plantation Made This Video.

Message to Minorities "Ron Paul is Spelling this Sh*t out for You" Ron Paul 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFWNRifg2jA

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Oldefarte| 12.28.11 @ 11:35AM

Gee Clit, why don't you dispute the above Dondero quotes with some of you unauthenticated BS???????

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 11:43AM

Why Don't You Read What Eric Dondero -Rittberg Wrote To Defend Dr.Ron Paul Against Gloria Borger And The Mainstream Media Smear Bund, RINO-CINO Farte.

Oldefarte| 12.28.11 @ 11:52AM

Why don't you read the above link on Dondero's statements instead? As Gissup said, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!

Oldefarte| 12.28.11 @ 4:53PM

http://youtu.be/BiKAyoSM33o

richard ryan| 12.28.11 @ 10:55AM

avoiding unnecessary wars is a good thing. RPs isolationism resonates with most Americans (60%)?
What I'm not sure about is his dedication to a strong military. I'm ok with the US pulling some of our troops from foreign bases. But we must keep developing and building new weapons systems, satellite technology, cyberdefense, etc. Strengthen and build up our Navy fleet, conventional weapons, etc. This is the first responsibility of government.

john dubose| 1.2.12 @ 11:48PM

It is not just semantics to say that non-interventionism is not the same as isolationism. Ron Paul is clear that he wants to continue all sorts of interaction with the other countries of the world. What he does not want to do is foolishly jump into other people's fights. It is a judgement call about the many struggles going on in the middle east.

It is fine to think his reluctance is an error. But it is NOT isolationism.

Jack in Wi.| 12.28.11 @ 11:39AM

For some reasons my earlier posts went in as Jack, instead of Jack in Wi. I don't know how that happened.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 1:29PM

its OK, Jack everyone still knew who you were.

Grzmlyk| 12.28.11 @ 2:21PM

We'll alert the media for those two people (Clint being one of them) who give a rat's ass what you have to say.

chuck| 12.28.11 @ 8:32PM

Good one, Grz.

Cpm| 12.28.11 @ 8:55PM

Except when Paul doesn't make it past the primaries, again, these people will just go home and sit on their hands. They are only interested in electing Ron Paul instead of defeating Obama.

irish19| 12.29.11 @ 12:58AM

That is the worry. They'd rather see zero elected again than have a republican other than Paul be elected.
How about it, Paulists? I'll vote for Paul if he's the candidate. Will you vote R if he isn't?

bondservant| 1.3.12 @ 10:41PM

I'm not voting for Ron Paul - I'm voting for the message. If you always vote for the cronies presented by the two parties, they'll keep presenting us with cronies. If Paul doesn't win, and Obama is re-elected, maybe the Republican Party will gradually get the message that we don't want Dole, Bush, McCain, Romney, Gingrich. (and the same thing goes for Demos). Why should they give us anything else if we're willing to settle?

spike59| 12.29.11 @ 6:28AM

The only 'new people' Ronpaul is bringing into the party are Paulbots who will leave once it becomes clear that their tinfoil hat messiah has as much chance as Hillary Clinton of winning the GOP nomination. A Paul-ObaMao head to head matchup would result in a 50 state electoral win for ObaMao, with a popular vote margin of about 20-25 percent. He's a crank, a phony, a hypocrite, a fraud, and a conspiracy loving whackadoodle who's more suited for a guest host spot on AM Coast to Coast.

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.28.11 @ 11:46AM

Apparently, JackassinWi has transformed himself in to just Jack. And, even though "Jack" doesn't know jack, it's nice that he's still here. pushing the whole JEW thing.

"Ron Paul is the only one bringing any new people into the party."
Indeed.

In fact, I don't remember when there have been so many JEW HATERS "in the party". Jew. Jew. Jew. Jew. Neocon (JEW). Neocon (Jew).

I guess "JACK" (If that's his real name?) sees this as a GOOD THING for Republicans. Maybe Jack wants a more Racially Pure Party? I guess he thinks that having the Skin Heads and The Aryan Nation on board, is proof of a Republican Big Tent. Or maybe Jack just believes that this is his Big Chance, to come out from the shadows. Him and Clint.

For someone who professes to be a Christian, these two have a strange view of the State of Israel. I believe that GOD has stated that, "Any Nation that favours Israel, I will favour them. But, if any Nation should wish Israel bad fortune? Then I shall bring MT wrath down upon them." (I'm paraphrasing)

Careful, boys.
Thou walketh a fine line.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 1:43PM

"And I will bless those that bless you and curse the one who curses you." I personally do not think God makes idle statements. For what it's worth Mr. Pennell, they ain't walking a fine line they are spitting in God's face and daring him to act.

Quartermaster| 12.28.11 @ 6:47PM

Sorry, but Neocon is not code for Jew.

Also, there is not a one to one coincidence between US interest and Israeli interests. They have also betrayed us on several occasions not to mention attacked one of our ships.

They've never come clean on the Pollard affair and are still trying to spring the man. A lot of what Pollard passed to Jerusalem ended up in Moscow and we have never been able to determine the damage that was done.

They sold the Lavi (we paid for its development)to the Chinese and tried to sell AWACs to them as well.

These are not things allies do to each other.

While teh quote of God to Abraham is still true, God also made a number of every scathing criticisms of his chosen people. They too are also still true and is what got them set aside because their hearts were hard and would not recognize the Messiah when he walked among them.

The anti-Semitic smear is on the same level as the raaaaacist smear of the left, and that's also where anti-Semitic smear originated as well. It is truly sad to see so much leftist spew handed out by so called conservatives among the commetariat on this site.

chuck| 12.28.11 @ 8:52PM

Sorry QM,

Jack is an anti-Semite. Pure and simple.

A lot of the Paul supporters who are posting here refer to those who do not support Paul as "Israel-firsters". What the hell is up with that? Why is everything about Israel to these people? Why the fixation? It's like the old racists blaming everything on blacks. Blaming everything on Israel is just a nicer way of blaming the Jews. We all know what they are talking about, but they get to claim that the REALLY don't hate Jews, they just don't like Israel.

Riiiiiiiight!

Jack in Wi.| 12.29.11 @ 12:09AM

Chuckie you are an Israel Uber Alles guy. Israel is the poster child for hate and racism. Israel should be thrown out to the company of normal states until it is fully integrated with equal rights for all Muslim, Jew, and Christian. The Holyland belongs to the whole world not just a few nasty racist Jewish sects. The racist entity is not worth one drop of American blood or one American dollar.

irish19| 12.29.11 @ 1:03AM

Thus proving Chuck's point. Thanks.

TrueBlue| 12.30.11 @ 11:08AM

Two things; 1) Israeli Arabs have more rights than they do in ANY of the Muslim nations. 2) Israel is holy to the Muslim religion only so far as Muhammad acknowledged Christ as a PROPHET (prophet, not the Son of God being the key part here). That's as far as the Islamic view of Israel as a holy land goes. The Temple Mount was a project by the king who controlled the area at the time trying to turn it into a holy site for political purposes. This has been acknowledged by several of Islams more prominent scholars (and not in the so-called moderate factions either).

And don't ask me for links or names, I posted this same thing over a month ago, on this site. You can look it up yourself if you're really interested in the truth Jack.

Grzmlyk| 12.28.11 @ 2:22PM

Except for those troublesome Jews, eh?

Jack| 12.28.11 @ 6:56AM

Ever since the cold war ended The USA has been involved in many foreign campaign's. They were all avoidable and most were foolish. The necons kept pestering Reagan to get into some kind of mess around the world. After he got burned in Lebanon he tried to stay away from them. Then they almost got him impeached because of Iran Contra. Bush the elder didn't give them much power and tried to get a real peace in the Middle East. They sabatoged him and then backed Clinton in the next election.

Gingrich and Dole treid to get support from theIsraeli Lobby by promising to support Jerusalem as the home of the American embassy and hooking up with the most radical groups in Israel. Clinton won the Jewish vote in a huge landslide, in 1996.

In 2000 the Neocons went in mass for Gore. When Gore looked like he was going down they moved over to Bush2 in the recounts in Florida. Bush gave them their old jobs back and let them run Middle East policy. After 9/11 they and their accomplises like Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice got us into a disasterous war on worldwide terror which has been a total failure and is bankrupting us.

The elites and their controlled media are trying to stop any worthwhile debate on foreign policy. They want endless war and endless bailouts for the worldwide elite 1%. Dr Paul represents the rest of us who want our soldiers home with their families, defending these borders and shores not those of Iraq and Afganistan. They also want, limited government and sound stable money, not the printing presses of the Federal Reserve.

If this country is to survive as a Constitutional Republic, the Neocons must be driven from public life. They have been wrong on most everything possible.

jothepro| 12.28.11 @ 7:47AM

Get back Jack. You don't think the money transfers from the producers to the losers has anything to do with bankrupting us?

Jack in Wi.| 12.28.11 @ 11:33AM

Occam wants to use nuclear genocide against innoceent Muslims. Shame on you Occam. That would dishonor us forever in the minds of the world

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 11:50AM

So what happens when they do the same to US, moron? Does that elevate them in the eyes of the world? Oh, wait. Why should we care? We'll all be ash by then.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 1:49PM

Innocent Muslims?

loulou| 12.28.11 @ 2:09PM

--"That would dishonor us forever in the minds of the world"--

What kind of nonsense is that?
Are you even an American?
Are you a Muslim?

rhoetus| 12.28.11 @ 6:36PM

Jack;
Getting the Neo-Cons out of the self-labeled Conservative Media would be a good start- such as HE, AS & NR. Maybe we could pull of a hostile takeover of the WS?

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 7:22AM

The Mainstream Media Smear Bund Is Throwing Jello Against The Wall To See If Something Sticks.

First They Attempted To Ignored Dr.Ron Paul, Then They Attempted To Mocked Dr.Ron Paul, Now They Attempt To Smear Dr.Ron Paul.

We Tea Party Patriots Are Used To This Treatment By The Mainstream Media Bund.

Many Of Us Tea Party Patriots Support Dr.Ron Paul.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Oldefarte| 12.28.11 @ 4:54PM

http://youtu.be/BiKAyoSM33o

Quartermaster| 12.28.11 @ 6:50PM

I disagree with Paul, but that is not anti-Semtic as you faux-conservatives seem to think. That is assuming you do think. With teh childish comments I've seen in this thread and others, I have to wonder.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.30.11 @ 7:38AM

That's why he's so popular with the Stormfront crows, right? Yeah, no anti Semitism THERE!

You people are like the Obamunists who glossed over his associations with Rev. Wrong, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Rashid Khalidi & Father Phleger.

Michael Tomlinson| 12.28.11 @ 7:24AM

James Antle III was also supportive of Obama lapdog Jim Webb and other blue dogs, because they were "conservatives." Not a good track record.

Occam's Tool| 12.28.11 @ 10:43AM

MT, give Ron Paul and Clint the full load! Use incendiaries, too! And, Happy New Year!

G-d, between Obamascum and Paultards, it's a wonder a man can hear himself think.

Jack in Wi.| 12.28.11 @ 11:37AM

Occam: you don't know who God is with your endless calls for nuclear genocide against innocent Muslims and Christians in the Middle East. You even want to kill the large Jewish community in Tehren when you call for the nuclear attack on that city.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 11:45AM

Zany Screwball Occam's Tool Job Is With The Israel Firster Smear Bund.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 11:51AM

Why don't you 2 Jew hating douchenozzles got Sandusky each other somewhere else?

W| 12.28.11 @ 1:58PM

Con Chef,
National Review has a poll today asking if Paul's explanations of the newsletters are credible. 89% replied Not Credible.
Paul will not be the nominee. I just hope his die hard supporters will vote for the Rep nominee, otherwise we have four more years of Obama.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 2:05PM

They'd do it GLADLY. If they can't have THEIR guy, then it'll be NO ONE BUT Obama, in their minds.

Sounds a lot like something regressives do, doesn't it?

Anthony M| 12.28.11 @ 9:07PM

The problem is that the republican establishment is being so nasty and dismissive of the libertarian wing of the party that we will lose them in the next election. Pulling out this nonsensical anti-semite or racist card could be the icing on the cake leading to Paul's supporters leaving the republicans. If you disagree with the man, argue on the issues, not Trotskyite accusations.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 3:19PM

Your An Israel Firster Smear Bund Boy Liar, Con Job.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Israel Firster Smear Bund Boy's Face.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 3:45PM

And you haven't posted one origninal thought in almost 6 months.

Chef chokes Clint to death with his potato knish (what a waste)!

chuck| 12.28.11 @ 8:57PM

Love potato knishes! Would hate to see one go to waste choking Clint, but it might be worth it! Got one for Jack too?

spike59| 12.29.11 @ 6:31AM

when you get right down to it, it doesn't take much for the Paulbots to throw on the jackboots and swastika armbands and start goose-stepping, does it?

Oldefarte| 12.28.11 @ 4:54PM

http://youtu.be/BiKAyoSM33o

Oldefarte| 12.28.11 @ 4:56PM

http://youtu.be/BiKAyoSM33o

W| 12.28.11 @ 1:02PM

Michael,
Jim Webb is nobody's lapdog.

He is a decorated Marine war hero who served in Vietnam, and was Secretary of the Navy for Reagan. He disagreed strongly with Bush on the Iraq War, and that is why he ran as a Democrat. The voters of Virginia must have agreed with him since they elected him. His son served in Iraq.
Webb is a patriot, not a lapdog.

Look at what's happening to Iraq now, and Obama has withdrawn our troops, and worse, Iraq told us to get out! Iraq would not agree to immunity for our troops if we stayed after Jan 1,2012.

Does anyone now think Iraq was worth 5,000 American lives, countless injuries, and one trillion dollars?

loulou| 12.28.11 @ 2:11PM

Jim Webb is a piece of Democrat garbage who publishes smut.

W| 12.28.11 @ 8:30PM

His last novel had a weird scene that you are probably referring to. His other books are excellent.

Drunken Sailor| 12.28.11 @ 4:04PM

I served in the Navy under Secretary Webb. He spewed enough PC Garbage to float a carrier.

Quartermaster| 12.28.11 @ 6:52PM

Webb took a powder as well. He served only a very short time as SecNav.

W| 12.28.11 @ 8:31PM

Did he take a powder in Vietnam?

bill| 12.28.11 @ 7:24PM

Jim Webb is a LIAR.

W| 12.28.11 @ 9:00PM

Can you be specific

chuck| 12.28.11 @ 8:58PM

Webb gave us Obamacare. He's a useless piece of shit!

Colin | 12.28.11 @ 7:30AM

Sparing a longer, drawn-out commentary, if Ron Paul is the answer to saving America, then the rumors are, indeed, true: The ol' Kool Aid Cafe is open again for business ...

"JONES, PARTY OF 300! JONES? JONES??"

Jake| 12.28.11 @ 7:39AM

Colin, you sir are an idiot!

Jason| 12.28.11 @ 7:52AM

I agree with Jack. Colin, ignorant shill is not your color....

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 11:30AM

What color of shill are you?

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 7:42AM

Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."

Milton Friedman,
"I strongly support Ron Paul. We very badly need to have more Representatives who understand in a principled way the importance of property rights and religious freedom."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 11:31AM

You are not part of the Tea Party. Unless you are using "Tea" as a slang word for the marijuana your addled brain is constantly under the influence of.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 11:50AM

I'm ALong Standing Member Of The Valley Forge Patriots Tea Party.
But,You Already Knew That Chairman Of The Bores Liar Boy.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Chairman Of The Bores.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 11:51AM

You're a fraud. Just like Margie & Jack.

Margie| 12.28.11 @ 2:13PM

And you're a lying sack of potatoes, punky boy.
Want to start another fight, punk?
Get right with your Creator: THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, lest you PERISH.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 3:02PM

The only thing that I need to get right is my pooping regularity. G*d & are good. Worry about your own putrid, hate filled soul.

Papist Dan| 12.28.11 @ 4:13PM

Bigot Margie,
Are you really sure you want another fight? Last night was a rout. The Chef ate your lunch. You have nothing. At first you denied that you don't believe in the Trinity. Then your comments were posted. Then you went into your tongue-speaking routine of spewing Bible verses and started attacking Jews because they don't believe whatever it is you believe.

Do you have some computerized Bible so you can insult and consign people to hell with one key? Best you stay under that rock.

I know, I know: liar, punk, reprobate, filthy liar, blah blah.

Margie| 12.28.11 @ 6:11PM

"But there also came to be false prophets
among the people, as also among you will be false teachers who will secretly bring in
destructive heresies, even denying the One
having bought them, the Master, bringing
swift destruction on themselves.

And many will follow their destructive
ways, through whom the way of truth will
be evil spoken of." 2 Pe. 2:1 & 2.

Oldefarte| 12.28.11 @ 4:56PM

http://youtu.be/BiKAyoSM33o

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 8:53AM

Hilarious! They're just like the Obamunists they claim to hate, with their cult-like worship of Ru Paul & their acidic responses to ANYONE who DARE criticize Dr. Dementia.

Occam's Tool| 12.28.11 @ 10:45AM

Colin, it's worse than that, sir. Paul is "Treason's Friend," supporting Bradley Manning.

Quartermaster| 12.28.11 @ 6:54PM

That, and his foreign policy is enough to keep him out. Why on this earth anyone would think Manning is a hero is incomprehensible to me.

spike59| 12.29.11 @ 6:32AM

if Ronpaul is 'the answer', it must be a seriously da#%fool 'question'

Jason| 12.28.11 @ 7:50AM

So the foreign policy smear didn't work. Ron rises in the polls. Oh, now let's call him a racist! Crap, Ron still rising in the polls. Back to the foreign policy smear!!!

Jason| 12.28.11 @ 7:56AM

Oh yeah, and keep towing that "marginal supporter" line too. 100 million people usually vote in a presidential election? 310+ million Americans? 310-100= 210 million "marginal" voters (minus 50-60 under 18)...I'll take my chances with those "marginal" types.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 1:53PM

Ron Paul is a nut.

loulou| 12.28.11 @ 2:13PM

Yes, Ron Paul is a nut. But he was real funny in the Borat movie.

Le Cracquere| 12.28.11 @ 8:24AM

Simply reporting Paul's foreign-policy stances doesn't exactly qualify as a "smear." I'm not sure Paul would deny anything Antle's saying about his beliefs.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 9:06AM

A Short Primer On Dr.Ron Paul's Foreign Policy.

Ya Might Wanna Watch The Short Video

http://digitaljournal.com/article/316304

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 11:32AM

No, I don't. You might want to see a psychiatrist.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 11:53AM

We Heard That You Were Under The Care Of The Famous Psychiatrist, Dr. Vinnie BoomBatz, At The Institute For The Criminally Insane.

Oldefarte| 12.28.11 @ 4:57PM

http://youtu.be/BiKAyoSM33o

Ken (Old Texican)| 12.28.11 @ 8:04AM

Antle,
are you guys in a comments garnering contest?

Spam-Paul-bots are going to be here all day.

Le Cracquere| 12.28.11 @ 8:30AM

They kind of are! As I've said before, Paul supporters are the guy's own best “oppo” adversaries: who needs a hatchet job when you can just report a few facts or general opinions, sit back, and let Paul's fans discredit him for you?

Journalist: “Is Paul’s campaign riding a tide of bigoted cranks?”
Hundreds of respondents: LIES LiEs LyEsSS! [50+ lines of bigoted crankery]

Louis Jenkins| 12.28.11 @ 8:10AM

Let's be honest Mr. Antle, we know you are not a Paul supporter. But Newt or Romney? Our election hopes are going down the tubes fast. Four more years of Obama and we're toast. There will be unrest in the streets, and that's if we are lucky.

martin j smith| 12.28.11 @ 8:20AM

Meaningful debate is an admirable goal. The only problem is there has been hardly any meaningful debate on anything including foreign policy largely because f the system of " debates" that we have as well as the reluctance
of the candidates to be brave enough to confront their opponents and I really mean failure to confront Mitt Romney.

As for Ron Paul: I see him first as an I Isolationist--which is bad enough but I also have problems with his stance on Israel and American Jewish Voters. You know the saying an apple does not fall far from the trees-so in line with that want to know from Ron Paul this: If an American who happened to be Jewish supported the State of Israel and and an American who happened to be a Muslim asked him what his policy and view of the middle east problems I would say a "fair" answer would be this: This is a problem that both parties must resolve to solve together and NO OUTSIDE POWER should be involved in. Israel is our Ally and we certainly support the existence of The State of Israel as we do a State of Palestine.
Both sides must recognize each others rights to
exist in peace. My policy is for completely
neutrality unless say another power aids an enemy of Israel. The we must balance the books so to speak. Support for the State of Israel is in our National Interest. Anything short of that will be viewed as hostile to Israel and by extention to Jews because if Paul does not understand that Jewish survival is an issue for Jews then he does have Jewish problem

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 8:28AM

“Unlike this President, I do not believe it is our place to dictate how
Israel runs her affairs. There can only be peace in the region if those
sides work out their differences among one another. We should respect
Israel’s sovereignty and not try to dictate her policy from Washington."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Occam's Tool| 12.28.11 @ 10:46AM

But we should vote against Israel defending herself against Palestinian rockets, as Ron Paul did, right, Clint, you traitor supporter? (Bradley Manning)

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 12:04PM

Netanyahu Agrees With Dr.Ron Paul

" Netanyahu address to our Congress "My friends, you don't need to do nation building in Isreal, we're already built! You don't need to export Democracy to Israel we've already got it! and you don't need to send American troops to Israel WE CAN DEFEND OURSELVES!!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gN5UrPB-xA

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 12:16PM

Dr.Ron Paul Allows Israel and Palestine to Solve Their Own Problems.

You're American Spectator's Resident Israel Firster Smear Bund Boy,Tool Job.

" Ron Paul’s statement on H Res 268, Reaffirming the United States commitment to a negotiated settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict through direct Israeli-Palestinian negotiations

Ron Paul: Mr. Speaker I rise in opposition to this resolution. While I certainly share the hope for peace in the Middle East and a solution to the ongoing conflict, I do not believe that peace will result if we continue to do the same things while hoping for different results. The US has been involved in this process for decades, spending billions of dollars we do not have, yet we never seem to get much closer to a solution. I believe the best solution is to embrace non-interventionism, which allows those most directly involved to solve their own problems.

This resolution not only further entangles the US in the Israeli/Palestinian dispute, but it sets out the kind of outcome the United States would accept in advance. While I prefer our disengagement from that conflict, I must wonder how the US expects to be seen as an “honest broker” when it dictates the terms of a solution in such a transparently one-sided manner?

In the resolution before us, all demands are made of only one side in the conflict. Do supporters of this resolution really believe the actors in the Middle East and the rest of the world do not notice? We do no favors to the Israelis or to the Palestinians when we involve ourselves in such a manner and block any negotiations that may take place without US participation. They have the incentives to find a way to live in peace and we must allow them to find that solution on their own. As always, congressional attitudes toward the peace process in the Middle East reveal hubris and self-importance. Only those who must live together in the Middle East can craft a lasting peace between Israel and Palestine."

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On Israel Firster Smear Bund Boy, Tool Job.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 12:17PM

The only thing you step on is cigarette butts. Nice Robo Post for the 9 millionth time, though. You're so original, Clint.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 2:18PM

Characteristics of a CULT;
According to the American Family Foundation, cult members display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment to their leader.

Warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader include.

1. CLINT demonstrates extreme obsessiveness regarding Ron Paul resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.
2. CLINT engages in programmed conversation and mannerisms to support Ron Paul.
3. CLINT is seemingly unable to think independently or analyze situations concerning Ron Paul.
4. CLINT is fixated on Ron Paul, to the exclusion of any other personal goals or individual interests.

According to Steven Hassan; cultists lie and use cult generated information and propaganda.

CLINT has adopted "loaded" language characterized by "thought-terminating clichés." The use of these "special" (or in Clint's case made up) words constrict rather than expand understanding. They function to reduce complexities of experience into trite, platitudinous "buzz words." CLINT sees no critical question about Ron Paul as legitimate. CLINT engages in "chanting" (saying or posting the same thing over and over and over again).

CLINT get help you are in a cult!

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 3:00PM

Like someone already posted, "Jones, party of 300? Jones??? Jones???"

Quartermaster| 12.28.11 @ 6:58PM

You are a con job job con. He posts a transcript of what Paul said in the clip oldefarte head keeps putting up and you can't handle the fact he deals with it. You antiPaultards really are mentally ill. To a man, you are frauds.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 7:13PM

But Ron Paul is still a nut.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 7:13PM

But Ron Paul is still a nut.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 8:04PM

Oh and Ron Paul is a NUT!

spike59| 12.29.11 @ 6:34AM

i hear tell Ronpaul is a nut...

Oldefarte| 12.28.11 @ 4:57PM

http://youtu.be/BiKAyoSM33o

Quartermaster| 12.28.11 @ 6:58PM

You can read it above, moron.

Mike D.| 12.29.11 @ 4:28PM

Oh, is that one of your Non-15 year old mentality type responses Asshole?

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 8:21AM

" Poll: Ron Paul pommels Romney, Gingrich in Iowa

Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX), a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, pommeled former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich in a Public Policy Polling poll of likely Iowa GOP caucusgoers released Tuesday. Mr. Paul won the Iowa PPP poll with 24 percent of the votes. Mr. Romney pulled in 20 percent of the votes and Mr. Gingrich garnered 13 percent of the votes."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Nancy in NC| 12.28.11 @ 8:41AM

I agree with Ron Paul on domestic issues, but the way he articulates his foreign policy is downright scary, especially when it comes to the Middle East.

Most rational people see the leaders of Iran and Syria, for example, as no better than Hitler. They are tyrants, espousing the worst Islam has to offer. Does anyone seriously not worry about these kind of people having a nuclear weapon? Why don't we believe them when they say they want to kill all the Jews? Are we going to act like Americans of the 1930's?

Isolationism won't work in the 21st century. Like it or not we are part of the global economy and world events affect all of us. How can we ignore the tyrants of the world completely? Paul pretty much said that it would be OK for Iran to acquire a nuclear weapon...that is completely insane. Does he actually believe Iran wants peace?

We don't need to be the policeman of the world, but to ignore barbarians is to invite peril. Does anyone think the radial Islamist will stay in the Middle East?

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 8:55AM

Dr.Ron Paul Understands Middle East History

http://digitaljournal.com/article/316304

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Occam's Tool| 12.28.11 @ 10:47AM

Paul understands NOTHING about Middle east history.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 11:04AM

We Ain't Buyin' Your Israel Firster Smear Bund Propagandist Crap Sandwich Spin On The History Of The Middle East, Tool Job.

A Short Middle East Primer Video.

http://digitaljournal.com/article/316304

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 11:35AM

You would buy and eat an excrement sandwich if Ron Paul was selling it. Oh wait! He is.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 12:26PM

You Eat The Israel Firster Bund's Crap Sandwiches With No Mustard On Em, Chairman Of The Bores.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Chairman Of The Bores.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 12:39PM

Stick to the robo posts. They don't make you look as f-ing stupid as your attempts to write freehand.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 2:19PM

LOL

Oldefarte| 12.28.11 @ 4:58PM

http://youtu.be/BiKAyoSM33o

rhoetus| 12.28.11 @ 11:32AM

Dilbert understands the middle east better than Jimmy Carter and Obama's Tool.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 11:33AM

Ron Paul is a nut.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 12:27PM

You Eat Bibi's Nuts, Chairman Of The Bores.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 12:42PM

Your mental acumen is simply ASTOUNDING, Clint. I'm AWED by your keen & witty ripostes.

(snarkiness off)

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 1:20PM

Clint, you are such a barking spiderhole!

Indy| 12.28.11 @ 9:47AM

I am on the same page as you are, I cannot vote for RP solely on his foreign policy stance and no, that does not make me a neocon, we should not have gone into Libya, Uganda, and other places in Africa, as recent examples. I am for shutting down some bases and reducing others for example, keeping a medical facility in Germany is critical to our ability to provide timely medical treatment to injured troops and to stabilize them before they can be transported to the US.

Your radical Islamist comment is spot on and the one question never asked is who will fill the power vacuum if the US completely withdraws from the world. Along with radical Islamists, Russia and China must be cheering on RP.

tonypal| 12.28.11 @ 10:13AM

Indy, you're nothing but a jew loving, Israel-Firster who hates the Constitution. For all I know, you probably have a constant rash and bad breath. How do I know this? Clint says so.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 10:43AM

Spew alert, please. I now am wiping Sprite off my monitor.

Occam's Tool| 12.28.11 @ 10:48AM

Indeed, Indy---how dare you spout such CHEESE! ----Jack in Wiscinsin.

Indy| 12.28.11 @ 12:22PM

tonypal, Con Chef (NB) and Occam's Tool -

Oh my, glad my glass of water was sitting on the desk and not in my hands. Thanks for the humor break, a good laugh is always welcomed!

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 12:29PM

tonypal got his breath of ass from Bibi's.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 12:38PM

And you got your's from rimjobbing Jack & Margie. And that's not toothpaste at the corners of your "mouf," is it? That's Dr. Dementia's leftovers from a few minutes ago, ain't it?

Margie| 12.28.11 @ 2:16PM

The slob gets even filthier today.

REPENT REBEL AGAINST GOD:

"But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death." Rev. 21:8.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 2:58PM

KISS MY ASS, CLINT RIMJOBBING CHARLATAN PRETENDER! EAT ME, WEB FINGERED, SCOTCH ADDLED, CLAPPED OUT OLD HARPY!

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 3:14PM

YOWZA!

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 3:41PM

I see you've come across the quasi conservative "allison" of Am Spec, Mad Mullah Margie. You'll LOVE her, Dear Barrister. She's a real corker!

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 5:29PM

LOL!

Margie| 12.28.11 @ 6:15PM

"Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy."

Behold, I am coming soon, bringing My recompense, to repay every one for what he has done.

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."

Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the Tree of Life and that they may enter the City by the Gates.

Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and fornicators and murderers and idolaters, and every one who loves and practices falsehood." Rev. 22:11-15.

Oldefarte| 12.28.11 @ 4:59PM

http://youtu.be/BiKAyoSM33o

Guy Montag| 12.28.11 @ 8:47AM

Mr. Antle is a perfect representation of the neocon mindset that's destroyed the GOP.

His critique of Ron Paul's foreign policy is truly amusing, particularly in light of the recent debacle that is the war in Iraq.

Those of us under the age of 50 have had enough of these chickenhawks who're bent on crusading around the globe in effort to project American force and dominion.

Our foreign policy is psychotic, and thankfully Ron Paul is speaking the truth about these endless wars.

The RINOs who fancy themselves as conservatives can never answer how they'll FUND these crusades.

Wrap yourself in the flag and pretend like US interests have been furthered by these wars, that's the foreign policy Mr. Antle blindly endorses.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 9:00AM

From the Article:

"Moreover, Paul continues to attract some marginal supporters. Some are kooks and 9/11 truthers, despite the obvious intellectual contradictions between "blowback" and conspiracy theories alleging that the 2001 terrorist attacks were an "inside job." Others are bigots and anti-Semites. Paul remains convinced that it is more important to spread the libertarian gospel than to purge the undesirables in his midst."

BINGO. Anyone who's a frequenter of ANY political site knows what kind of people are attracted to Dr. Dementia's campaign. Surely Dr. Dementia himself knows. Yet he has not disavowed this block of supporters. Any other Republican candidate would be drawn & quartered for such associations, loose or not. Every time one of his mouth breathing, Jew hating, blame America/Israel Firster (gee, they sound a lot like regressives in that respect, don't they) acolytes hits the "submit" button, its like $45k worth of free anti Paul advertising.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 9:15AM

" This year, Paul has 10 times the individual donations — totaling $113,739 — from the military as does Mitt Romney. And he has a hundred times more than Newt Gingrich, who sat out the Vietnam War with college deferments and now promises he would strike foes at the slightest provocation.

What seems, at first blush, counterintuitive makes more sense upon further review. There’s a long tradition of military people being attracted to politicians with Paul’s strict interpretation of the Constitution."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 11:38AM

The donations came from Benedict Arnold's off spring no doubt.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 12:31PM

You Israel Firster Smear Bund Boys Got A Bad Habit Of Badmouthing Our American Warriors.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Chairman Of The Bores.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 12:36PM

This coming from the putz who never served. Don't pretend you give a shit about those who serve when you never even tried to, coward.

Drunken Sailor| 12.28.11 @ 12:44PM

Dead on CC. Clint has no problem badmouthing service members or vets who disagree with the Rev. Paul. Talk about a hypocrite.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 1:28PM

Yeah. What do THEY know, right? They're all "chicken hawks," "war mongers," & "Israel Firsters." Funny, I'm not a Perry supporter, but I DID see a Perry ad with about 8 Texan vets who'd all received either the Medal of Honor or Navy Cross. One of them was Marcus Luttrell, former Navy SEAL & author of "Lone Survivor." If anyone knows who Mr. Luttrell is from some of his clips on YouTube, has read his book, or knows of him for how he chased down the asshats who shot & killed his service dog, a lab puppy named DASY, who's name was an acronym for the names/nicknames of his fallen team mates, knows that Mr. Luttrell is not a man to be trifled with.

I'd pay Pay-Per-View prices to see Clint go up to Mr. Luttrell & call him those names. It'd be like one of those hyped up boxing matches that's supposed to go all 12 rounds, but ends in the first with a miraculous knockout. Except in this case, it would be miraculous, it'd be f-ing HILARIOUS.

Oldefarte| 12.28.11 @ 4:59PM

http://youtu.be/BiKAyoSM33o

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 8:08PM

Step on me Clint? LOL that is hilarious.

Bruno's Pet| 12.28.11 @ 9:18AM

Jim Antle the third will be happy to find out that thanks to the Ron Paul Newsletters, the horrid practice of needlin' was stopped. You know that is where gangs of black women were infecting white women with AIDS. From Reverend Wright we learned that AIDS of course was created by the CIA so really the CIA was infecting white women with AIDS. Actually that fits as well. The government is building fences at the southern border to keep white women in the country so the CIA can infect them with AIDS. We are almost a police state you know because of the CIA and our military. There is nothing more hopeful than politicians playing to conspiracy theories that heighten racial tensions but for a good cause. Nothing to see here. Keep on moving or the Jews will send you to Israel to fight their wars. again. Sweet!

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 9:53AM

Dude, you haven't even scratched the surface. Take a look at this:

http://predicthistunpredictpas.....-paul.html

john dubose| 12.28.11 @ 9:52AM

It all comes down to Israel. Do we really want to take on the whole of the Muslim middle east on their behalf ? Ron Paul says no as a matter of constitutional and strategic principle plus money. Everybody else but left wing people who do not like Israel but does want to support other overseas groups says yes.

This is a critical choice. Either way we go, it is going to take some stones.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 9:55AM

Gee, do we support the only Democracy in the region? How many Arabs are fleeing Israel? None. How many members of other faiths are fleeing Muslim countries? THOUSANDS. This is a no brainer. We support those who share our worldview & love of freedom & fight those sworn to the destruction of freedom.

But you're right. It'll take some cojones.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 11:40AM

Your argument is doomed to failure. I fear it necessitates debating someone with a brain.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 11:53AM

Sadly, I fear you're right.

Occam's Tool| 12.28.11 @ 10:50AM

Well, given that Israel is more militarily capable than the entire Arab world and wins multiple more science prizes and does much more research, art, etc. than the entire Arab world, the answer is pretty obvious.

The Arabs are good for one thing: oil. Other than that, their contributions to world culture, science, etc. are minimal thanks to Islam.

Warrior | 12.28.11 @ 2:07PM

You are wrong. We do not need the Arabs for oil at all. Our known reserves are greater than the middle east. Also, from any research I've done, I can't find any significant arab contributions to the sciences and/or arts.

Israel is more than capable of defending herself. It has been the foreign policy of appeasement and our governments attempts to restrict Israel from defending its sovereign land from the arabs since Carter that has made the middle east the powder keg that it is. The problem with continuing the US foreign policy is that in keeps trying to befriend and make consessions for Islam and it's maniacal followers while condemning Israel for asserting its right to self defend. For the Paul supporters that have this backwards, they must realize that like it or not, Israel is our ally and we must stop the appeasement and rationalization we have that the savages that practice the religion of peace can be tamed.

It's sad that we can't have a civil discussion of these boards. I wish the serial Paul spammers would stop as they are hurting his campaign far more than they help it.

9thID| 12.28.11 @ 9:55AM

Made my week to see Ben "Cornhusker Kickback" Nelson announce his retirement yesterday, and it will be even sweeter when Liberal-tarian Ron Paul does the same in January. The discussion can then return to choosing the most conservative candidate possible for the GOP...

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 9:56AM

He (Nelson) f-ed himself with Obamacare. And he knows it.

Indy| 12.28.11 @ 9:58AM

All candidates must be vetted, RP has been around for a long time, I have read he has made numerous appearances on the Alex Jones (well known conspiracy theorist) radio show, I'm sure there's a lot of audio to listen to, I don't have any plans to do that because I am not supporting RP but you can bet the Chicago Machine will, there may not be anything damaging in the audio vault, but there could be, voters need to know so we can make informed decisions. I found an old debate where RP is unhinged talking about the drug wars, definitely not presidential,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....e=youtu.be

I expect bloggers will in the end do the job most journalists refuse to do.

Ken (Old Texican)| 12.28.11 @ 9:59AM

C'mon Paul-bots,
y'all can do better than this. Get your lazy butts out of bed and crank up the spam.

Moe Blotz| 12.28.11 @ 10:13AM

Where is Booger and his insightful commentary?

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 10:13AM

You see my "friendly" discourse with your "girl" Margie last night on the Santorum article? Chick's a piece of work, man. I'll tell ya that.

Ken (Old Texican)| 12.28.11 @ 1:53PM

Con Chef,
did she consign you to hell again?

W| 12.28.11 @ 2:00PM

Con Chef,
Welcome to hell.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 2:10PM

Brother, go read it! Its F-ING HILARIOUS. I was laughing my nuts off last night while I was punking her out.

And yes, sadly, I've been consigned to Hell by the Mad Mullah of Am Spec, Large Marge. Darn. Oh look! STRIPPERS!!!! Not so bad down here!

W| 12.28.11 @ 8:11PM

ConChef,
Read them, agree with you, and Papist Dan.

Margie| 12.28.11 @ 2:20PM

You consign yourself to Hell, Reprobate.
See Rev. 21:8.
God throws liars into Hell, and it is clear who you align yourself with here: the filthy and perverse.
You have not repented of your false accusations against me, have you?
And you drag others to Hell along with you!
Where are the e mails you claimed that you had, liar?

"He who speaks the truth gives honest evidence, but a false witness utters deceit." Prov. 12:17.

Filthy Reprobate SCUM.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 2:55PM

Kisses to you too, Mad Mullah of Am Spec!

Margie| 12.28.11 @ 6:18PM

"Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on My account.

Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in Heaven, for so men persecuted the prophets who were before you." Mt. 5:11 & 12.

JESUS IS LORD.
REPENT, PUNK.

Ken (Old Texican)| 12.28.11 @ 6:32PM

No Margie,
just the one e-mail. Get thee behind me Satan-woman.
...but you and Vic STILL need to have that long talk.
I forgive you. Obviously you still need a roof to shelter under.

Margie| 12.28.11 @ 6:46PM

Reprobate.
You began your false accusations here a few months ago now, claiming you had the emails to prove "IT".
And the "IT" was that I wanted to Marry you, you pervert.

I told you several times to POST them, and you didn't, because you couldn't.

Then, by some stroke of genius, you claimed that you actually didn't have them.. because I told you to delete them!!
AND you change the story from me wanting to marry you.. to me proclaiming my undying love.

HOW CONVENIENT you utter lying fool!

And NOW, now you say ONE e mail.. SO, I say: you aren't allowed to change your story from the first one, Reprobate.

GOD SEES YOU AND HE KNOWS YOU AND HE KNOWS WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

You cannot escape His Judgment.
And it is YOU, the liar and bearer of false accusations that SATAN is USING here and in your life, for you turn others against the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST.

READ IT AND WEEP, REPROBATE:

"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you traverse sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves." Mt. 23:15.

FILTHY FILTHY LIAR.

Margie| 12.28.11 @ 7:07PM

"I forgive you."

For??????

It is YOU that needs to REPENT.

And by the way, how does it feel to know that YOU are on the wrong side of THIS:

"Blessed are you when men hate you, and when they exclude you and revile you, and cast out your name as evil, on account of the Son of Man!

Rejoice in that day, and leap for joy, for behold, your reward is great in Heaven; for so their fathers did to the Prophets." Lk. 6:22 & 23.

I REJOICE!

Drunken Sailor| 12.28.11 @ 11:01AM

Guess they are all to busy in Iowa with picket signs to post

Say Baptist| 12.28.11 @ 10:15AM

On foreign policy Mr.Paul is rather Cavalier with the facts. Japan bombed US at Pearl Harbor. Hitler declared war on US before we declared war on Nazi Germany. What ever WWII was about it wasn't about saving Jews. The RR lines to concentration camps were never bombed. Jewish Refugees were turned back from our borders...
Similarly Jihadists bombed the World Trade Center twice. Then we finally noticed they didn't like us. People like Paul believe that non Americans only react to us. They deny foreigners agency. They are fools.

Occam's Tool| 12.28.11 @ 10:53AM

Paul's knowledge of US military history is equivalent to my knowledge of subtleties of Vatican intrigue---non-existent.

But at least I recognize my ignorance. Paul thinks he's a wonderkind.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 11:07AM

We Ain't Buyin' Your Israel Firster Smear Bund Propagandist Crap Sandwich Spin On The History Of The Middle East, Tool Job.

A Short Middle East Primer Video.

http://digitaljournal.com/article/316304

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 11:54AM

Wow. Let's see how many times you can post the same link today, Clint. You were doing so well yesterday. What happened? Not enough hits off the bowl this morning?

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 12:20PM

Israel Firster Smear Bund Boy, Con Job Is Scared Of The Tea Party And Our Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr. Ron Paul.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 12:30PM

Why should I be scared of you, oh Tea Party of One? I wasn't scared at any of the Tea Party events here in Western PA.

"Scared" is hardly the word. "Amused" & "annoyed" are more appropriate. After all, those are the 2 words that best describe my feelings on Obamunists, which you are no better than.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 12:37PM

Like I Said, Israel Firster Smear Bund Boy, Con Job Is Scared Of The Tea Party And Our Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr. Ron Paul.

" ANKENY, Iowa – 2012 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul won another local tea party presidential straw poll in Iowa tonight, outshining his competitors in a display of growing organizational strength around the state.

This local win follows Ron Paul’s endorsement by two Buena Vista-area tea party co-founders, his endorsement bytwo Dubuque-area tea party founders, and his winning first place in the Dubuque Tea Party presidential straw poll."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 1:19PM

And, then, you woke up in New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Look, Ma! Repeats and no hands!

Oldefarte| 12.28.11 @ 5:00PM

http://youtu.be/BiKAyoSM33o

bill| 12.28.11 @ 10:17AM

Ron Paul is great on fiscal issues but "sadly" sinking with his "reckless" foreign policy.

It's too late for him to rebound.

Jack Tomkins| 12.28.11 @ 10:20AM

Ron Paul has a history of hatred against Israel and the Jewish people. As his former aide has come out and stated Ron Paul favors the abolishment of Israel. He has a forty year track record of anti semitic statements. Ron Paul is nothing more than an older version of David Duke. All the Israel and Jew haters are coming out of the closet to vote for Ron Paul. Be careful what you wish for. Ron Paul is a very, very dangerous man.

rhoetus| 12.28.11 @ 10:39AM

Mr. Tomkins: You are sadly mistaken - under the rules of logic any gratuitous assertion can be just as gratuitously denied. Are you going to vote for Obama again?

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 11:12AM

Dr.Ron Paul,
" While President Obama’s demand that Israel
make hard concessions in her border conflicts may very well be in her
long-term interest, only Israel can make that determination on her own,
without pressure from the United States or coercion by the United
Nations.
Dr.Ron Paul,
“Unlike this President, I do not believe it is our place to dictate how
Israel runs her affairs. There can only be peace in the region if those
sides work out their differences among one another. We should respect
Israel’s sovereignty and not try to dictate her policy from Washington."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

martin j smith| 12.28.11 @ 10:52AM

Clint does not understand how many Jews see things so let me splain and help him ( I know it is a hopeless case ).

In the US there are a variety of ethnic,religious and other interest groups. For example: Afrom-Ameriicans ( Black Americans ) often their "leaders" ( self styled don't you ) bring up the notion of extermination or genocide--referring at times to slavery.. So, is talking about Afro-American survival African first--NO

Hispanics are generally supportive of a libera ( and Socialist ) immigration policy--are the Latino(a) first --NO.

Muslims in this country not only support the "Palestinian People" but generally support Muslim causes including stuff that relates to terrorism even against us. Is this described and Muslim first--No

But--when Jews support the State of Isreal as a Jewish State that is Israel first.

And here is where I believe Ron Paul and his supporters like Clint are Anti-Jewish. But, I tell Clint not to feel too badly because I was not enamored of Clinton, or Bush I and II . The big difference is that these Presidents at least gave bit more lip service to Israel as our ally and all that rot. Ron Paul is too honest for his own good--but perhaps he has done a service with his honesty and exposed the ugly underbelly of our political system.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 11:37AM

I tried a different tack. Since Jack & Clint claim to be Catholic, & they refer to ANY supporters of Israel as "Israel Firsters," does this make them "Vatican Firsters?"

They didn't like that too much.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 12:42PM

Dr.Ron Paul Allows Israel and Palestine to Solve Their Own Problems.

" Ron Paul’s statement on H Res 268, Reaffirming the United States commitment to a negotiated settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict through direct Israeli-Palestinian negotiations

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Mark in LA| 12.29.11 @ 4:40PM

But--when Jews support the State of Isreal as a Jewish State that is Israel first.

No when Jews put Jewishness and Israel ahead of America and use their influence in the media and government to get us into wars not in our interest so that poor goys die on the battlefield and Jewish chickenhawks don't shed any blood then they are Israel firsters.

William Kriston, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz ... ring any bells?

Drunken Sailor| 12.28.11 @ 11:05AM

Bottom line is Ron Paul either put his signature on those reports or allowed it to be put there without checking the contents. The buck stops with him. It's called accountability. Anyone who can not see that I do not want in the drivers seat. Period!

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 11:26AM

Ground Control to Major Ron: Take Your Geritol Pills And Put Your Tinfoil Hat On

http://predicthistunpredictpas.....-your.html

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 11:35AM

(Snicker)

Nothing like some Paulsamic vinegar to get rid of those chem trails!

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 11:43AM

LOL

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 12:03PM

Brat, did you see the look on the dog's face or her poor son? Oh, and check out her lawn. Now, you know what to use on that crabgrass. Vinegar!

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 12:14PM

I DID! Too much!

I like THIS one, though:

"50 Scans To Leave Your Pauliac Lover a/k/a A 30 Step Progamme To Break Yourself Free From The Cult of Paul"

http://predicthistunpredictpas.....lover.html

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 12:18PM

I bet! I know the ways to a man's heart! :-)

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 12:31PM

I'm sure you do, ma'am!

:-)

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 12:43PM

I bet that I can name which picture of yoga poses that you liked best.

Hopefully, Clint will find solace in yoga. Allah knows, he is going to need something to help him with his PDTs (Pauliac Delirium Tremens)!

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 12:57PM

Suck On This Limey Broad.

" Poll: Ron Paul pommels Romney, Gingrich in Iowa

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 1:25PM

And, then, you woke up in New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 8:12PM

giggle. I like Clint being beat up by a girl. Please, please question his manhood for me just one time.

I do it all the time, but it would be so much better if a girl did it.

Drunken Sailor| 12.28.11 @ 12:22PM

I think I have a new favorite website. Thanks!!

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 12:34PM

DS:

Resist is one of the many regulars I count as a friend on Townhall.com. I've been reading her posts & blogs for a while now. She's the best. G*d help anyone who straps her on. I'm glad she's on our side!

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 12:44PM

Howdy, DS! Nice to meet you! Brat is my very good friend and a great chap!

Drunken Sailor| 12.28.11 @ 12:46PM

Love your work.!

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 12:52PM

Thank you. I have to tell you up front that I am British by birth so I am sort of cheeky and very irreverent. :-)

Drunken Sailor| 12.28.11 @ 12:57PM

Well I'm not British, ( great, now I read your post with a British accent) but have been called a sarcastic smartass so I like your style. Welcome to the asylum.

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 1:28PM

Thank you very much. Brat has been trying to get me over here for a while.

Just so that you know, I am an American now. :-)

Drunken Sailor| 12.28.11 @ 1:47PM

Great! Always find it interesting to see that many of the people that are American by choice understand the whole situation we face better than those that are American by birth. Kind of sad, but that is the reality of it.

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 2:10PM

It is because we understand socialism and fled to get away from it. While the UK isn't the Soviet Union, there are places in parts of the country that might as well be.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 8:13PM

God Bless America!

W| 12.28.11 @ 5:53PM

Resist
Welcome to AmSpec.
You come highly recommended by ConChef.
As Obama would say do they speak British in Britain as they speak Austrian in Austria?

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 8:06PM

Thank you very much. I love CC or Brat, as I know him.

Santa was really good to me this year. He brought me the Rosetta Stone's Special White House Austrian Edition. When I put the CD in my niece's EasyBake oven and squint my left eye, I can kind of make out the word for hello. It looks like "GrüßjourAloha." :-)

Oldefarte| 12.28.11 @ 11:48AM

Jim, obviously the most famous '''''kook''''' within the Paulista movement is our resident Clit with his C&P machine gun. I think many could possibly agree with SOME of Paul's policy positions [especially his stated desired agenda to seriously downsize our bloted/indebted government], but his failings occur within his KOOKINESS of LIBERTARIANISMS. To insanely believe that worldwide manical dictators should somehow be extended the hand of friendship in diplomatic fashion, or to be allow to ultimately destroy the world in the name of their utopian freedoms is pure stupidity and deserving of mental illness therapy techniques. Hitler, Sadaam, Gadafi, Castro, Putin, the Muslim Brotherhood etc, are all simply tyrants who will/have stopped at nothing [until stopped by mostly US efforts historically] in their desire to destroy all that do not agree to their insane religiosity or social dictates. It's one thing to rightfully assert that the US does not have the right to interfere with the legal operations of other independent countries, but to asininely extend such arguments to the unlimited proposals that these maniac-dictators have a right to destroy all opponents is simply beyond what Forrest Gump once proclaimed about STUPIDITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 11:56AM

Cue "chicken hawk" & "Israel Firster" tag lines!

Well said, sir.

Drunken Sailor| 12.28.11 @ 3:52PM

We need theme music.
I suggest something from the soundtrack of
"The Hebrew Hammer"

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 4:22PM

Every time I see Clint or Jack post, I replay the scene in "Inglorious Basterds" when Hugo Stiglitz makes his appearance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REDwfnI2s4s

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 12:54PM

RINO-CINO Apologist FARTe Is Scared Of The Tea Party And Our Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr.Ron Paul.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 1:18PM

And, then, you woke up in New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 12:01PM

"A Short Middle East Primer Video."

No, thanks, Clint. I don't need revisionist history from you Paultards. I had one of you idiots tell me two days ago that Ron Paul said that Germany wasn't an enemy of the United States in WWII.

When a country declares war on you FIRST, what the bloody hell do you call it? A friend? An ally? A cuddly bunny with cute whiskers?

My experience with Paultards has left me with the distinct impression that their understanding of history is as tenuous as their grasp of reality.

I know "The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa."

Yada, yada, yada, and then you woke up in New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 12:16PM

(more snickering)

Well done, M'Lady!

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 12:18PM

:-)

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 12:52PM

Why Don't Ya Tell It To The CIA, The Department of Defense And The 9/11 Commission,Who Agree With The CIA's Michael Scheuer And Dr.Ron Paul.

" Michael Scheuer, who was the head analyst at the CIA’s bin Laden unit, Alec Station, and authored the books Through Our Enemies Eyes and Imperial Hubris, said “I thought Mr. Paul captured it the other night exactly correctly. This war is dangerous to America because it’s based, not on gender equality, as Mr. Giuliani suggested, or any other kind of freedom, but simply because of what we do in the Islamic World because ‘we’re over there,’ basically, as Mr. Paul said in the debate.”

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Scheuer also agreed with Dr. Paul’s statement in the debate that the war in Iraq was a diversion from capturing or killing Osama bin Laden and that bin Laden was “delighted” that the U.S. is occupying Iraq as it has become a training ground and recruiting tool for new jihadists joining the movement."

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 1:26PM

Like I said, Clinty, even if Paul wins Iowa, he is done. I will bet you any amount of money. Any amount.

Warrior | 12.28.11 @ 2:15PM

I would check the numbers, but I believe the last 7 or 8 presidential election cycles, the winner of Iowa did not win the nomination. So winning Iowa really does not amount to squat.

Ron| 12.28.11 @ 1:17PM

Poor Clint...When Dr. Paul dies, who will he turn to for a new hero?

Another 2 year inductee into the Air Force Flight Surgeon program who was never promoted, never served as a commander of any unit, cannot take responsibility for what was published under his name (we learned in OCS that a good leader is responsible for everything that happens under his watch, good or bad), constantly harps on the Jews (oh, here comes Clint with his Israel Firster comment against me), has no clue about foreign policy other than to think it is as simple as playing nice with the mullahs and radicals (sounds a lot like the failure of NerObama)...Should I stop now Clint?

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 1:45PM

"Another 2 year inductee into the Air Force Flight Surgeon program who was never promoted, never served as a commander of any unit,"

It interesting that you bring this up, Ron. Clint called my Dad, a Navy Dentist & Vietnam vet who served for 20 years, a REMF. A man who also recieved his own command, as he became an O-6. Yet Clint worships the One Rank Wonder? Who never went anywhere NEAR harm's way. Strange, isn't it?

Drunken Sailor| 12.28.11 @ 1:50PM

NB,
Not strange at all really. Clint is what we used to call a J.A.F.O. (Just Another F*cking Observer)

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 2:10PM

Drunken Sailor Is What We Still Call A Trash Talkin' Shuck & Jive Bar Fly.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 2:12PM

Excuse me, stewardess, I speak Jive.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 2:56PM

You Speak Out Your Ass Israel Firster Smear Bund Boy, Con Job.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 3:15PM

(sobbing)

STOP IT, CLINT! YOU'RE HURTING MY FEELINGS!

You're mental acumen is laughable. Just like your candidate.

spike59| 12.29.11 @ 6:46AM

sieg heil, you dolt

Drunken Sailor| 12.28.11 @ 2:34PM

I beg your pardon, I am a trash talkin Shuck & Jive Private Bar fly thank you very much!

and to paraphrase Winston Churchill

And Clint, you are ugly. You are very ugly. I’ll be sober in the morning.”

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 2:54PM

No Ya Won't Bar Fly.

Aaaaand,
Yo Mama's So Ugly, She Gotta Tie A Pork Chop Around Her Neck To Get The Dog To Lick Her.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 3:19PM

OH SHIT! EVERYONE RUN! Clint's broken out the ultimate howitzer of written debate (GASP):

THE "YO MAMA" joke!

This is almost as serious a thing as the rarely used & always feared "TRIPLE DOG DARE!"

We tremble at Cicero Jr's employment of such methods!

Drunken Sailor| 12.28.11 @ 3:55PM

I'm devastated, just devastated. That's it Clint, your no longer on my Happy Chanukah wish list.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 4:24PM

I know dude. We should go have some drinks & commiserate over the loss of such a good friend....

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 7:22PM

What does your mom tie around her neck to get you to lick her Clint?

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 2:24PM

Israel Firster Smear Bund Boy, Con Job Has A Bad Habit Of Messin' With My Dad's Combat Warrior Record, As A Highly Decorated WW II Commander & Got The Punch In The Mouth He Was Askin' For.

Veteran Air Force Officer Dr. Ron Paul's Flight Surgeon Record Sure As Hell Beats The Gingrich's & Romney's Chickenhawk Record.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On Israel Firster Smewar Bund Boy, Con Job's Face.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 2:53PM

I didn't say anything about your Dad in these posts, did I Clit? Sorry I keep rubbing you the wrong way.

PS. Anyone who's an Army brat from a WII vet's family wouldn't call their Dad a "recon-ranger" & expect anyone with any knowledge whatsoever of the military to call him on it. There IS no such thing. You're Dad was either a Ranger, or he was part of an Army recon unit for either the infantry or artillery. The only other way your Dad would even REMOTELY called a "recon-ranger" is if he was a LRP/Ranger in Vietnam.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 3:10PM

Bullshit.

Like I Said, Israel Firster Smear Bund Boy, Con Job Has A Bad Habit Of Messin' With My Dad's Combat Warrior Record, As A Highly Decorated WW II Commander & Got The Punch In The Mouth He Was Askin' For.

Asked & Answered Israel Firster Smear Bund Boy, ConJob.

Dad Commanded Tropoers Of The 38th Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron Mech.With 2nd Ranger Battalion Companies Attached.

They Fought From Normandy, To Paris, To The Battle Of The Bulge,To Germany, TTo The Link Up With The Russkies In Czechoslovakia.
He Holds The Bronze Star, The Silver Star, The Fourragere, The Croix De Guerre And The Presidential Unit Citation.

Now, Go Play With Your Daddy's Drill.

The Tea Party Steps On The Israel Firster Smear Bund Boy, Con Job.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 3:23PM

If he has the Silver & Bronze star, you'd post the links to the registry, which is online. And just because the Rangers were "attatched" doesn't mean your Dad was a Ranger. Not unless he's got a Ranger tab.

So proud of your Dad, as I am, but why won't you post any links to your Dad's record as I have? See, I'm not making shit up, so I have nothing to hide. What's you're pathetic excuse?

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 3:25PM

"your" in Engrish.

Drunken Sailor| 12.28.11 @ 4:15PM

Exactly right Con. I was in the Navy but, believe it or not for one deployment I was attached to the Army's 10'th Mountain division (I had Cold Weather/Mountain survival training and had the medical qualifications they needed) A subordinate division of XVIII Airborne Corps. Using Clin't logic I just may be one of the few Airborne Sailors.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 4:25PM

"Airborne, all the way," huh, Doc?

:-)

Drunken Sailor| 12.28.11 @ 4:34PM

LOL. Now that's frigging funny! I've leaped off a bar and assaulted the floor but I don't think that qualifies for jump wings. :)

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 4:57PM

That sounds like any sailor worth their salt speaking! My Dad used to tell me stories about going into Po City with the Intruder drivers when they were in port. Let your imagination run wild with that scene. A lone dentist & a bunch of attack pilots walk into a bar...

Sounds like the beginning of a joke...

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 7:27PM

Whats a "Tropoers" ?

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 7:25PM

I think clint meant to say Ricky Ranger.

If Clint's dad were Recon he would have drowned Clint as genetically inferior material before his first birthday.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 7:30PM

My uncle landed on the beach in Normandy and he is now in his 90's.

Although inbreeding would explain a lot in your case, unless your granddaddy was your father I call bullshit Clint.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 2:12PM

" The New Hampshire Gazette

The Chickenhawk Hall Of Shame.

name:
Newton Leroy "Newt" Gingrich
rank:
Chickenhawk First Class with Distinguished Fleeing Cross
date-of-birth:
June 17, 1943
home state:
Georgia
missed opportunity:
Vietnam War
preferred activity:
Attending grad school
occupation:
Congressman

A virtuoso in the art of hypocrisy, the former Speaker of the House now claims the Vietnam War was a splendid idea, but at the time he opposed going himself. Newtie also speaks highly of morality, but as a serial adulterer he doesn't want to get too close."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 3:27PM

When did YOU try & sign up, Clint? Or have you just been content to trade on your Father's service for the rest of your life because you didn't even have the balls that Jack did to ever go sign up in the first place?

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 1:17PM

And, then, you woke up in New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 2:50PM

That's Pretty Bold Talk For A One-Eyed Fat Broad, Limey.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 4:18PM

LMFAO!

Like I said, and then you woke up in New Hampshire and South Carolina!

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 7:35PM

Other than both are conservative states I don't understand why it pisses Clint off when you sat that, but if it pisses off Clint, it makes me happy! So thank you, you wonderful, beautiful and caring lady for making my day a little brighter!

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 7:59PM

You are so very welcome. I've had a blast and Clint makes it soooooooo easy!

Whateves| 12.28.11 @ 1:34PM

As a one time veteran - I have seen first hand how our foreign policy has hurt America. I'm tired of the media/politicians scaring America. It is now subconscious fact we must meddle in and occupy other countries for our "safety". Never mind we could decimate any country within minutes if necessary - For some creepy reason we have been conditioned to be afraid. And when we are afraid the machine has absolute freedom to spend uncontrollably and erode liberties our forefathers died for.

Do I agree 100% with Paul? Nope. But I did look at the donors for the other candidates and it clearly answered many questions. So yes, I'm a Paultard. I took some time to look and see why we as a nation are broke. The entire system is bloated and broken. Change is coming fast - we can't carry on as a nation spending like this much longer.

Change and unlearning is very hard - pull the flag and ribbon magnets from your view and look at things from another perspective. Question what you believe. Did you formulate that notion or inherit it? Is America a beacon by example or preemptive force?

I don't have the malice to insult others here - I respect you being informed and standing for what you believe is right...that's your freedom. Enjoy it while you can. If you didn't notice, the government has been slicing it steadfastly for the past decade...to keep themselves, er, us safe...

lester| 12.28.11 @ 2:04PM

I agree with the author here. I hate the newsletters, i think if i were a white supmremist I would still hate them because I would find them condescending.

At the same time, 9/10 of the bellyaching abuot Pauls excited followers, how he is a crazy uncle or whatever, it usually comes down to israel.

I wish people who dislike Paul for that reason would just SAY SO. Stop beating aruond the bush. Maybe they don't realize it. I don't know.

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 2:16PM

Not really. I could give you lots of reasons that I why I have a problem with The Paul Pot and I am a libertarian, but if you want just one, I can do it.

Do you remember the movie "Jerry Maguire"? Well, Ron Paul "lost me at Cynthia McKinney."

No true libertarian includes a Marxist, who supports Qaddafi-style socialism (no word on what kind of socialism that she supports now that the Lypsynka of Libya is pushing up Sodom's Apples in the Libyan desert after getting royally sodomised, but that's an issue for another day...), IN AN OPEN ENDORSEMENT FOR THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. NEVAH! EVAH! EVAH!

TOTALLY BATSHIT CRAZY: THE SIX MOST INSANE PEOPLE TO EVER RUN FOR PRESIDENT (no Ron Paul is not -- yet -- on the list)

http://predicthistunpredictpas.....nsane.html

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 2:47PM

GREAT LIST. Its like the Starwars bar scene.

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 4:17PM

That it is!

JimH| 12.28.11 @ 3:28PM

Welcome to the party RWM. I'm American born but my wife, a naturalized American from a former British colony much damaged by socialism and ethnic conflict has told me much of life under such conditions. It worries me as this country moves ever closer to the same situation. You likely know this already but I'd like to point out that American Conservatism is not a unified bloc. You wouldn't know it from the posts here, but the demarcation between Conservatism and Libertarianism is a fuzzy continuum, not a solid wall. Also most who call themselves Conservatives here would not be recognized as such by a Burkean Tory. Lady Thatcher is the only Tory that comes to my mind as being akin to an American conservative. Anyway, welcome again, and may we all hope that the LaRouchies don't come to this site.

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 4:17PM

Thank you. I do try to tell Americans that politics in Britain and in Europe are played on left of the centreline of the pitch. David Cameron "might" be considered a Blue Dog in the States...if that. Come to think of it, he would make a purrfect governor of Massachusetts. :-)

Ah, yes, the LaRouchies! Yikes! I've had my run in with them down at Zuccotti (I've written about OWS - some very funny stuff, if I do say so myself).

I was a Tory for one year...in 1988...when I was 10. If I HAD to affiliate with any British party, it would be UKIP, but I am militantly independent. I keep jokingly threatening to start an American Official Monster Raving Loony Party. :-)

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 7:38PM

Did I agree with Hitler totally, well no but he had so many good qualities and he did love his dog after all.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 7:56PM

Oh I'm sorry. Is Ron Paul still a viable candidate even though he and his worshipers have a "Jewish Problem?"

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 2:48PM

Bullshit, Limey Broad.
There Are At Least 10 Types Of Libertarians And Shades In Between,

There Are Even Neo-Libertarians,Who Are Fellow Travelers With The Israel Firsters.

Aaaand,
Dr.Ron Paul Refused To Endorse Jon McCain, In Protest Of The Democrat/ Democrat Light Two Party Charade And Endorsed All Third Party Candidates As A Group, In That Protest.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 3:28PM

But he sure as shit endorsed Cynthia McKinney! What a "true conservative!"

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 4:11PM

He endorsed:

1. Bob Barr

2. Chuck Baldwin (He thinks the South was right and should have won)

3. Ralph Nader (He can't wait for the day capitalism dies in America by his own admission)

4. Cynthia McKinney

From where I sit, it looks like the bus carrying The Paul Pot and the Paulistinians is leaving the station for Guyana.

Drink that Paulaide, Clinty! Drink that Paulaide!

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 4:32PM

"WHITE LIGHT! I SAY AGAIN, WHITE LIGHT!"

john dubose| 12.30.11 @ 8:11PM

Ron Paul did not endorse McKinney and Nader because he wanted them to win. He did it to open some space for the formation of more rational political alignments. BTW Barr would have made a good president.

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 7:50PM

LOL Clint got beat by a girl! Clint got beat by a girl! Ha Ha Clint, you are such a joke.

Clint| 12.28.11 @ 3:42PM

You're Shit For Sure, Israel Firster Smear Bund Boy, Con Job.

Dr.Ron Paul Refused To Endorse Jon McCain, In Protest Of The Democrat/ Democrat Light Two Party Charade And Endorsed All Third Party Candidates As A Group, In That Protest.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 4:06PM

Clint is still whining.

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 4:30PM

Some one rubbed Clit the wrong way. Don't you just HATE it when that happens!

:-)

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 4:42PM

Yep!

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 4:41PM

Hey, Clint!

I know how you Pauliacs love a good conspiracy theory.

Guess who I have found? The man behind the grassy knoll. No shit. Really.

http://predicthistunpredictpas.....ether.html

Oldefarte| 12.28.11 @ 4:44PM

http://youtu.be/BiKAyoSM33o

Con Chef (NB) | 12.28.11 @ 4:59PM

But Clint's been telling us Ron's Israel's FRIEND! Clint wouldn't lie, would he?

Margie| 12.28.11 @ 5:56PM

"No one who denies the Son has the Father. He who confesses the Son has the Father also." 1 Jn. 2:23.

"He who has the Son has life; he who has not the Son of God has not life." 1 Jn. 5:12.

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 5:58PM

Margie, isn't it getting nigh Wednesday evening services over there?

Go get ready for church where everyone will enjoy your proficiency with scripture.

Margie| 12.28.11 @ 6:22PM

"Jesus said to him, "I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father, but by Me." Jn. 14:6.

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 7:55PM

Zuma said, "Bite me."

W| 12.28.11 @ 8:23PM

Resist,
Margie does not speak in declarative English (or British) sentences. She speaks in BibleVerse so she can deny whatever the verse may mean and say she means only what the verse says.....I think.....help...

Margie| 12.29.11 @ 1:38PM

RECEIVE THIS IN PLAIN ENGLISH- LIAR:

"You shall not utter a false report. You shall not join hands with a wicked man, to be a malicious witness.
Ex. 23:1.

Nick| 12.28.11 @ 6:05PM

Yoo-Hoo Margie?

I'm still waiting for those answers to my questions.

Do you believe that infants can sin?
Did Paul mess up when he wrote, in the same chapter, that "many have sinned"?
Did the Holy Spirit inspire the Old Testament authors to write that Enoch and Elijah did not die, and then inspire Paul to write that "ALL [pantes] have died"? If He meant ALL, as in everyone who ever lived?

Until you can answer these questions, your argument, or, rather, your flawed interpretation, doesn't have a leg to stand on.
God Bless!

Margie| 12.28.11 @ 6:21PM

"Do you believe that infants can sin?"

Apparently, scumbag, your filthy Popes do.

Isn't that why they see fit to baptize them?

Imbecile.

Nick| 12.28.11 @ 6:42PM

Margie,

Finally! It took you long enough to attempt a response.

You are getting closer to the truth, as Romans 5 is about Original Sin. But, you don't believe in Original Sin, do you? Therefore, your effort to deflect this back onto me, has failed. Nice try, though.

So, the question still stands. Explain just how infants can sin against Almighty God? Did Saint Paul believe infants could sin? He did say "all", didn't he? Did he get this wrong?

Also, what are your answers to my other two questions?

Did Paul mess up when he wrote, in the same chapter, that "many have sinned"?
Did the Holy Spirit inspire the Old Testament authors to write that Enoch and Elijah did not die, and then inspire Paul to write that "ALL [pantes] have died"? If He meant ALL, as in everyone who ever lived?

Yours, in Christ, Nick

Margie| 12.28.11 @ 6:53PM

I've answered you for a couple of years here, PUNK Pope Idolator.
And I spent hours answering you, according to the Bible, the other day.
And each time that I do, you lie and say I never answered you.

You do this because you are a flaming lying hypocrite and care nothing for the TRUTH.

Funny how for centuries~ since it's very beginning, Papists see fit to LIE constantly!!

And, by the way, PUNK: God's WORD NEVER FAILS.

"Every Word of God proves true; He is a Shield to those who take refuge in Him.

Do not add to His Words, lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar." Prov. 30:5 & 6.
"

Nick| 12.28.11 @ 7:04PM

Margie,

You have not answered these questions. Today was your first attempt at any type of an answer. Even though it didn't really address the question that I asked.

Your interpretation of Saint Paul's use of the word "all" (pantes in Greek) is flawed. Please, pray to the Holy Spirit about this.
God Bless!

Margie| 12.28.11 @ 7:09PM

"You have not answered these questions."

FILTHY LIAR.

Anyone can do a search under my name here and the word baptize to read for themselves.

PERVERT.

Nick| 12.28.11 @ 7:20PM

Margie,

Better yet, do a search under my name and my question about infants, and anyone can see that you have not answered these three questions, which I have been asking you for several days, now.

Even better yet, why don't you post a link to these "supposed" answers you claim to have written, Margie? You've done this many times in the past, haven't you.

The reason you don't do these things is because you have no answers to these questions. And, you have no answers because your interpretation is flawed and your argument doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Why did you keep asking where James was, in that other thread, and, why he wouldn't answer your questions, when you do the same thing? Isn't this hypocritical?

Nick| 12.28.11 @ 7:23PM

p.s. Here's the link, so people can see for themselves how you berated James, for not answering your questions:

http://spectator.org/archives/.....ent_703845

Nick| 12.28.11 @ 7:35PM

p.p.s. And, here is one of the several times you asked James where he was:

"James| 12.21.11 @ 6:40PM

Nothing is secret about Mormonism - it's all on the internet.
God says he has mysteries - is he hiding something?"

"Margie| 12.22.11 @ 7:19PM

"Nothing is secret about Mormonism - it's all on the internet."
Including the Polygamy (Adultery) as gospel?"

"Margie| 12.23.11 @ 10:35PM

Yoo-hoo, Jamsey???"

"Nick| 12.24.11 @ 12:04PM

Yoo-Hoo, Margie?

Still waiting for those answers to my questions.
Do you believe that infants can sin? [...]"

Dimitry Aleksandrovich| 12.29.11 @ 5:24AM

Jesus was baptized too Margie. He was without sin. Don't you believe that?

shipley130| 12.28.11 @ 6:00PM

Maybe the bigots are those that are calling Ron Paul supporters a bunch of kooks.

Resist We Much! | 12.28.11 @ 6:21PM

Or, maybe, it is the Paulsamic supporters trying to clear the skies of "chemtrails" with vinegar? I mean, it's not like the Ronulians have ever given us reason to call them loons and kooks....

"Paulsamic Vinegar" Mom: Ron Paul Supporters Spray Vinegar at the Sky to Fight “Chemtrails”…I’m Not Kidding

http://predicthistunpredictpas.....-paul.html

Do you know of any special uses for Cheerios and cottage cheese?

Boar Hunter| 12.28.11 @ 7:47PM

Ron Paul is a nut.

Jeff Goff| 12.28.11 @ 8:23PM

Ron Paul SuperPac Praises Rude Behavior http://ow.ly/8cBsv

Pete| 12.28.11 @ 11:20PM

HE DIDN'T WRITE THEM!!!

WHEN WILL YOU PROPAGANDA SPEWING HACKS FIGURE IT OUT???

Resist We Much! | 12.29.11 @ 12:16AM

Well, then, who did?

Is the author still on his staff in either a paid or unpaid position?

Is he still palling around with racists, anti-Semites, and homophobes or just taking their money and endorsements?

If he couldn't keep tabs on what was going on at Ron Paul & Associates, which had less than 10 employees, why should we think he has the executive and managerial experience to be put in charge of the Federal government with its 2+ million employees?

You should probably read this, as should all libertarians, of which I am one:

The Tragedy of Ron Paul On The Cause Of Libertarianism

http://predicthistunpredictpas.....se-of.html

Rich Rostrom| 12.29.11 @ 1:04AM

You're absolutely right.

Ron Paul did not write any of the malignant nonsense that appeared in his newsletters. He did not then and does not now believe any of that stuff.

He just published this material (which he knew to be false and destructive) to make money off those who believed it.

Is that better?

spike59| 12.29.11 @ 6:43AM

okay, scooter, here's the drill....1 of these 2 scenarios is the 'wha ha happen wuz...'

A-he wrote it/approved it/agreed with it-in which case he's a delusional, racist, antisemitic, homophobic crank who enriched himself via hate speech...OR

B-he didn't write them/approve them/read them/agree with them-in which case he's a clueless MORON (who enriched himself via hate speech) who can't even be entrusted to put out a simple newsletter, SO...

choose A or B; there are no other possibilities, and each one renders Ronpaul unfit to hold public office

Drunken Sailor| 12.29.11 @ 9:40AM

Maybe not but he did sign them off didn't he? Or does he make a habit of simply signing documents without reading them? Not exactly a presidential trait.

Dimitry Aleksandrovich| 12.29.11 @ 5:17AM

It wasn't until Ron Paul entered the last presidential race that I actually began to feel some hope about this country. Whether Paul wins or not here is my prediction. If our nation's policies (especially foreign policy) don't radically change course we are bound for the dustbin of nations. Not only are we not meant to be an empire but we can no longer sustain Pax Americana abroad. End the wars, bring home the troops, close the foreign bases and end foreign aid across the board!

Ron Paul 2012!

rhoetus| 12.29.11 @ 12:32PM

The "Talking Heads" on Fox News continue their attacks on Ron Paul. When did CBS take-over Fox?
I am voting for Ron Paul in the Arizona Primary.

Resist We Much! | 12.29.11 @ 1:27PM

Good luck with that!

Bud MacGuire| 12.29.11 @ 7:05PM

Well then James suppose you get the meaningful debate started, really meaningful, free of inuendo, OK?

POST American| 12.29.11 @ 11:10PM

----Ron Paul, such as he is, is ALLLLLL that
we've got.

Beyond this, one and all, clean out your
deeply infiltrated and corrupted churches,
get off the surveillance grid franchise slum,
throw away your credit cards and hurl the TV,
create your own coffee clubs ----and start
drafting your own candidates for state and
local offices.

-This we CAN DO!

Be ALERT to infiltrators and front ops.

----------------HUAC/ Nuremberg 2012---------------

Resist We Much! | 12.30.11 @ 1:39AM

All Aboard! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Haaaa! Mental Wounds Still Screaming! Driving Me Insane I'm Going Off The Rails On My Crazy Train! (And I Want To Take You Along For The Ride)

http://predicthistunpredictpas.....s-are.html

Rich Birkett | 12.30.11 @ 1:19PM

Eric Dondero, previously known as Eric Dondero Rittberg before he dropped Rittberg from his name, was fired by Ron Paul because of Rittberg's support for Bush's Iraq War, contrary to Paul's non-interventionist views. Apparently Rittberg was not bothered by the lies Bush & Co. used to justify the Iraq War. Rittberg doesn't understand what it means to be a libertarian, although he was a Libertarian Party candidate for VP in 2004. Rittberg has cozied up to neocons, supporting Rudy Giulani in 2008, founded Libertarians for Bush, and supported neocon Chris Peden for US Rep.

Richard Baker| 1.1.12 @ 4:30PM

spike59:
Great message. He's either A or B as you posit. Personally, he reminds me more of Lyndon LaRouche and his mindless crowd.

rhoetus| 1.3.12 @ 9:46PM

Fox News is still maligning Ron Paul so I'll be watching C-Span for the remainder of the year.

We live in an America that is up-side down:
Where Fascism is called patriotism (Patriot Act) and national bankruptcy is for the greater good. Any attempt to fix the problem is called "gridlock" and the only thing about bi-partisanship is that it's treason.

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