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Organizing the Takers Against the Makers

By Peter Ferrara on 12.7.11 @ 6:08AM

Obama unveils his campaign strategy for 2012.

The brilliant Chavistas at the Center for American Progress have revealed the reelection strategy for President Jimmy Carter II. This time they are going to get the 1980 election right. Ruy Teixeira and John Halpin enlighten us with their publication, “The Path to 270: Demographics versus Economics in the 2012 Presidential Election.”

The authors recognize the grave political difficulties created by “the perceived inability of the Obama Administration’s policies to spark real recovery,” creating “serious doubts about Democratic stewardship of the economy.” But the authors think the Democrat party under the Saul Alinsky revolutionary Barack Obama can reinvent itself to a new majority composed of government dependents, government workers, African Americans, Hispanics, and credulous, wide-eyed, liberal-left true believers. What would be left out of this New Democrat majority is the white working class, formerly the base of the Democratic Party.

William McGurn summarized the publication in the November 29 Wall Street Journal as just “making official what everyone has known for some time: The Democrat Party is abandoning the white working class.” New York Times columnist Thomas B. Edsall similarly reported early last week, “preparations by Democratic operatives for the 2012 election make it clear for the first time that the party will explicitly abandon the white working class.”

As Clark Judge explained at HughHewitt.com on Monday, this means:

The president will jettison the oldest and most defining characteristic of his own party. From Andrew Jackson to Franklin Roosevelt to John Kennedy to Bill Clinton, Democrats have presented themselves as the party of the workingman and woman, the party of labor and not just unionized labor, to which they degenerated in later years. Now, in the coming election, the Adlai Stevenson, Gary Hart college faculty and yuppy wing will be seen as the center of the Democratic coalition.

McGurn explains why the working class is being dumped:

If these citizens weren’t bitter before, they sure have reason to be now. For the white working class, the private sector was what gave them jobs and propelled them into the middle class. Yet whether its drilling for oil or putting up a shopping mall, today’s Democrat Party seems opposed to most of the private-sector jobs that deliver opportunity to those without a college degree.

Takers vs. Makers
In other words, the Democrat party is throwing in the towel on economic growth and prosperity, because even Obama’s people recognize they cannot credibly sell themselves as delivering on that. What they are going to sell in 2012 is taxes and redistribution from those that have more to buy the votes of those they think will sell their vote for government handouts. That marries perfectly Marxist philosophy with Chicago political machine politics.

But if they think the American people are going to abandon the American Dream for Castro/Chavez style equality, reality has some ugly surprises in store for them. While they are dumping the white working class recognizing they can’t appeal to independent people who believe in supporting themselves through their own hard work, they are wrong to think they can hold on to the Hispanic working class, or even to their previous majorities among the African-American working class.

The unemployment rate for Hispanics has been well into double digits for more than two years now, with their wages and incomes falling. Teixeira and Halpin don’t adequately account for that. But let me offer a clue. I predict a Gingrich/Rubio ticket would win a majority of Hispanic working people employed in the private sector.

African Americans have suffered depression level unemployment of 15 percent or above throughout most of the Obama Administration, with more and more falling into poverty. They are still going to go overwhelmingly for Obama with their votes. But they are not going to show up to vote in anywhere near the numbers of 2008, because they are going to feel Obama has not delivered on the explicit and implicit promises made to them in 2008. And for that reason, among those who do show up to vote, a Gingrich/Rubio ticket would break into double digits with the African-American vote, even more among those employed in the private sector.

Let me help bring Teixeira and Halpin out of the smoky haze as to what that means. Virginia and North Carolina will not be in play in 2012. It is New York and New Jersey that will be in play.

And there will be a new front in play that Teixeira, Halpin, and the Obamunistas overlook. Their class warfare is going to wake up more and more of the limousine liberals that have really been the new core base of the Democrat Party, second only to African Americans. Unless white liberal guilt has made these superficial style liberals suicidal, what this means is that in 2012 Connecticut will be in play as well. Note to those who feel they can’t bear the guilt burden of their millions anymore, please send your money to my agent in New York, and we will bear that guilt for you.

I think in 2012 Obama will finally deliver on his 2008 rhetoric of uniting the American people, behind a Gingrich/Rubio ticket. That is because economic growth and prosperity have always trumped redistribution among the American people. Not well known is that the supply-side, pro-growth movement is now coalescing behind Gingrich, setting up a perfect rematch of ideas from 1980. Except that Obama is on a far worse political trajectory than Jimmy Carter. Compare the 2010 midterms to the 1978 midterms. And even Jimmy Carter was not losing Congressional seats in New York City that Republicans had not won since before the New Deal.

Occupy Piracy
The Teixeira/Halpin/Obama/Democrat strategy of organizing the takers against the makers is reflected in the Occupy Wall Street movement as well. That movement reflects a pirate mentality, as they feel perfectly free to help themselves to the earnings, savings, and property produced by others. Wake up America, this is what Americanized Marxist revolutionaries look like. But their creepy French Revolution play acting with its implied threat of runaway violence is not in the American tradition, and consequently won’t work with the American people. But it is in the tradition of Barack Obama, whose previous career was precisely as a Marxist street agitator.

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About the Author

Peter Ferrara is Director of Entitlement and Budget Policy at the Heartland Institute, General Counsel of the American Civil Rights Union, Senior Fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis, and Senior Policy Advisor on Entitlements and Budget Policy at the National Tax Limitation Foundation. He served in the White House Office of Policy Development under President Reagan, and as Associate Deputy Attorney General of the United States under President George H.W. Bush.

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Appleby| 12.7.11 @ 6:32AM

One of the major reasons I moved to Canada was so that I could get an accurate sense of what is happening in Europe and Asia (because 2/3 of the poplation of Canada still refers to Europe or Asia as *Home*) which I could not get in the USA. Americans have generally ignored what is going on outside its borders, thus the appalling ignorance about the wages of Socialism coming due and owing in Europe right before their eyes. (If they want something closer to home, they might do worse than come to Ontario, Canada, where our auditor general has just told us we are paying the highest insurance rates IN THE WORLD, and that because of stupid green power initiatives and a 13% sales tax on everything by a crazed Premier who was just re-elected despite a long history of blatant lying, our power bills will rise by 46% in the next 5 years, driving even more industry out of the province.) I heard a child of about 10 dragging behind his father last Saturday whinging, *I want morrrrre TOYYYYYS!* and I actually turned round and said *Join Occupy Bay Street and march down the street and DEMAND them!* His father gave me an apologetic look but said nothing. Obama is trying to appeal to that childs voting age brothers and sisters; but he has not yet realized that these brats for the most part dont vote; they hang around and wait for somebody to start smashing store windows. I am thinking Krystalnicht next October.

Moe Blotz| 12.7.11 @ 8:32AM

Most Americans know little about what goes on in Canada. The reports we get about the Canadian economy is that your corporate confiscation rate (tax) is lower than ours and you are awash in petroleum. The last time I was in Kingston for the Welli Boot Chuck, the American dollar was worth $1.15 Canadian. Now the Canadian dollar is worth more, what? Our inside the beltway pundits are promoting a VAT, refusing to learn from your example. I won't mention PPAACA.

W| 12.7.11 @ 8:53AM

Why do you want to get an accurate sense of what is happening in Europe? Never heard of that as a reason.
I visit Toronto often and like it.

Appleby| 12.8.11 @ 7:40AM

I liked it a lot too, when I was just visiting; like Cuba, you dont see the real country when you are just visiting.

And the main reasons for keeping track of what is happening in Europe are two: (1) because it will be coming to North America any day now; and (2) everyone there will be moving here [one day last month 110 Romanian (Hungarian) people arrived at Pearson Airport and claimed asylum. IN ONE DAY.

W| 12.8.11 @ 11:46AM

Interesting. I first visited in 1971, stayed at a hotel on Younge St. for $10, and it was nice and clean. Have relatives in Mississagua. They all used to live near StClair but have all moved to the burbs.
Great cappucino, pizza, and bread.

buckeyeman| 12.7.11 @ 10:09AM

Where is Canada?

W| 12.7.11 @ 11:01AM

I think it is one of the 57 states.

Mark| 12.7.11 @ 8:08PM

Thats funny! I thought Hawaii was a part of Asia now. lol

W| 12.8.11 @ 11:47AM

What do I know, I just read the teleprompter

Moe Blotz| 12.7.11 @ 3:35PM

Oy Buckeyeman, look on a map of Ohio and you will find Canada lies north of Lake Erie. Booze came from up there when we were not allowed to make it or drink it. The footprint of the American chicken turned up on a few pathways going to Canada back in the 1970s.

Alan Brooks| 12.7.11 @ 8:29PM

Gingrich is far more disingenuous than Carter, Obama, Nixon, LBJ rolled into one. He must be destroyed politically.

Shamus| 12.7.11 @ 6:34AM

Gimmiecrats.

Michael Tomlinson| 12.7.11 @ 6:39AM

Welcome to Tex... uh Kansas. You know one of those 57 states.

Mimi| 12.7.11 @ 7:10AM

Thanks Peter for the information....Hmmm...The
Dem's have a strategy to change black to white, Bad to good, down to up, rich to poor, and poor to rich, dumb to smart and foolish to WISE ! They think we will be fooled again....Their denial of the grave consequence of their governing is living in fantasyland.....When they loose the fools won't even admit it. The PARTY has become devoid of truth! Where did the good Dems Go?

russel| 12.7.11 @ 11:07AM

My old Aunt Mabel might be a Democrat , but she's the last of em ; they voted for Kennedy and some as far back as FDR . For the most part , there ain't no damn Dem anymore , they're socialists' . So get it right . Pelosi , Reid et al are SOCIALIST statist redistributionists' . Got that Pete ? . That's exactly what we've got infesting the oval office now . And even tho they're too stupid to recognize it , so are the media knee- padders .

Grzmlyk| 12.7.11 @ 12:03PM

Yes, Mimi, IMHO, Democrat thinking works like this: The crooks (e.g., Barney Frank, Richard Trumka) fabricate a false "truth" in order to profit off the fools (e.g., any Hollywood star, any college student or professor) who believe that the "truth" is what the "GOOD people" want it to be. The pawns (e.g., welfare recipients and their ilk) just sit back and collect the government goodies, accepting whatever "truth" their sugar daddies feed them, and the nihilists (e.g., Barack Obama, the Occupy Wall Street crowd) believe the ultimate "truth" is to be found in destruction, chaos and vengeance.

Have I left any liberal archetype out?

Al Adab| 12.7.11 @ 2:32PM

GRZ:
Long time no see. Isn't this about the point in the book where the producers start closing their factories or their businesses, burn their oil fields and just drop out? If the owners went on strike against the employees what might happen?

Grzmlyk| 12.7.11 @ 3:18PM

One would hope so.

Unfortunately, too many of our captains of industry have long ago decided to "play ball." Give in to this regulation or that tax, pay so much tribute to the extortion racket that is government, and maybe they'll let you stay in business. Companies like Goldman Sachs and GM just jump into bed with the corruptocrats altogether knowing that, in the end, government will pick the winners and losers. Kind of like the industrial giants in Weimer Germany who jumped onto Hitler's bandwagon.

I think there aren't that many Howard Roarks or Dagny Taggerts in America today.

JR| 12.7.11 @ 4:00PM

What is stopping you from being one? There were not many in Atlas Shrugged either, as I recall. Furthermore, seems to me that there was and is but One Jesus.

There may be more than you think. Who was it who said something like, "Even if you're on the right track you'll get run over if you just stand still"?

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.7.11 @ 7:24AM

"Yes Sir. Can I help you?"
"Yeah. I'd like that Shotgun, right there."
"This one?"
"Yeah. And I'm gonna need about 1,000 Shells."

That's what everyone who loves this Country, should be doing, before it's too late. The people who survive, are the ones who PREPARE.

I have been comparing what this THING has been doing, to what Chavez has done in Venezuela, for years. From his FCC Chairman, who 'Admires the way that Chavez shut down the Airwaves, in his Country', and "saved his beautiful Revolution", to his Copying Hugo Chavez' methods of Controlling the Internet."

Go out there and find the WIKI-LEAK hacked State Dept. Documents, detailing why this THING was Bitch Slapping our ALLY - Honduras - a Constitutional Democracy, and a Friend, when their Congress and Supreme Court, had the Army throw their Hugo Chavez wannabe President - Manuel Zeleya - out of the Country, for attempting to circumvent the Country's Constitutional Limit on Presidential Terms.

This pile of PIG SH*T, threatened our Ally with Sanctions, for UPHOLDING THEIR LAWS, and put Pressure on Honduras (in the form of withholding Financial Aid) to return the Hugo Chavez Protege, back to the Presidential Palace. And, he did all of this, while proclaiming that "The United States would not MEDDLE in the affairs of IRAN", as their version of Obama, was murdering his own people in the streets.

According to the Document that Wiki-Leaks obtained, the Marxist/Muslim was "Seeking better relations with Venezuela's Chavez, and he wanted to SEND A MESSAGE to the Leftist Regimes in Central and South America, that he was someone they could work with".

Everybody talks about this MISTAKE, as if he snuck up, and took the Presidency. They act SURPRISED at the things he does. "He's making a mistake". "Obviously, he's getting bad advice." 'Someone should help him."

This guy is doing what he was BORN to do. His whole life has been geared for what he does, now. he was Born in to Hate for this Country. Born in to Hate for the White Man, the Jew, Israel, and the United States.

He is the MESSIAH to the Fabian Left. He is "The one we've been waiting for." He is the DELIVERER, to HAMAS, and HEZBOLLAH. But, unlike JESUS and MOSES, he does not preach Peace and Co-existence. When he preaches to the Poor, and the Weak, and those whose burden is great, he's preaching VIOLENCE and HATE. Wisconsin. Occupy. And we haven't seen anything, yet.

And, just lately, something has happened. He's come out of the Closet. He is actually BECOMING Chavez. He's becoming Lenin, and Castro, and Hitler. He's out in the open. He's not even bothering to disguise himself, any more. It's Divide and Conquer, all the time, now.

"A Country divided from itself, cannot stand." That's right. Yet, that's his plan. He has returned to his Natural Calling. He has returned to The Book. Everything he's doing, RIGHT NOW, comes from the book, dedicated to LUCIFER. The BOOK - Rules For Radicals. It comes from The BOOK - Mein Kampf. The BOOK - The Communist Manifesto. The Anti-Bibles. This Country, founded on RELIGIOUS FREEDOM, is being torn apart by a man Born to a Mother with No Religion, and a Father with a Religion of DEATH.

I know that I've said this many times, but it needs to be remembered!

We have seen this before.
And it always ends in MASS MURDER.

"Will there be anything else?
"Yeah. Can I have that 50 Caliber Machine gun? It's okay. It's not for me. It's for a Mexican Drug Cartel."

Nancy in NC| 12.7.11 @ 8:02AM

And you might want to add some beans to sit beside those shells. But don't tell your neighbors or they will be tearing down your door to "share".

If people are capable of ripping each other apart for a $3 waffle iron (Black Friday anyone), what will they do when essentials are in short supply?

I'm thinking I need to add a couple of rifles to my arsenal. I don't want the barbarians to get too close.

pineapple| 12.7.11 @ 10:26AM

Lest we forget that if a person owns more that one rabbit gun and one deer gun, he is considered a terrorist. Call me a terrorist!

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.7.11 @ 10:40AM

Now, wait a minute. That's only true if you're a White Man that just got out of the Armed Forces, and you have Patriotic Bumper Stickers on your Pickup Truck, Fly the American Flag, or go to CHURCH every Sunday.

THEN, you're seen as a Terrorist. And, deservedly so, in Obamaland.

Grzmlyk| 12.7.11 @ 12:13PM

Right. And, under Eric "The Red" Holder, if you're "African American" or a "Hispanic" gang member or an Islamic jihadist, weapons are not a second amendment issue, they're a first amendment issue: Killing evil Americans of White European descent is just another form of your "free speech," and you have a constitutional right to express yourself with a Glock or an IED.

So, if you're Caucasian, and have a job, and pay your taxes, and you happen to find yourself being pistol-whipped or shot by one of these charming members of a Preferred Victim Group, suck it up, you evil Teabagger.

If you try to defend yourself, the ATF will arrest you for violating your assailant's civil rights.

And that would make you just another evil Republican.

Don't you just love America in 2011? Is there anything worth saving?

Kingofthenet| 12.7.11 @ 1:19PM

Wow, you guy's need to adjust your 'Tin-Foil' hats, it's cutting off circulation to your brain. What is this PARANOIA based on, what has The President done in the last 3 years that impacted YOU directly? Now mind you, I am not talking some things you don't like like saving the Domestic Auto Industry or giving poor people access to Health Care, but SERIOUS things that would call for this level of Hysteria? Get a Grip!

DRed| 12.7.11 @ 1:26PM

Get a comfortable seat.

Grzmlyk| 12.7.11 @ 1:46PM

Uh, it's "guys," not "guy's."

I really don't see the point of reading the musings of an illiterate.

I'm kidding. Obama's regime hasn't done anything bad. He's been a great president! Leninism for all!

DRed| 12.7.11 @ 2:00PM

What's the point of reading the rantings of a person who can't even elucidate the reasons he's angry?

Grzmlyk| 12.7.11 @ 3:19PM

Not a very bright attempt, DRed.

Try again.

Timothy L. Pennell| 12.7.11 @ 2:13PM

Actually, you sound like the Queenofthenet, if you get my drift.

DRed| 12.7.11 @ 4:01PM

Timmy, nobody was expecting an ignorant bigot like yourself to answer the question. But I had hoped that Grzmlyk would at least give it a go.

Grzmlyk| 12.7.11 @ 4:24PM

Keep hoping, there, sport.

Sucks to have all that bogus data just one click away and nobody wants to play, eh?

Let's cut to the chase: There are 500 or so examples of nihilism, destruction, corruption, contempt, out-and-out crime or just obnoxious behavior I could cite about your very, very naked Emperor Obama and his thoroughly criminal kleptocracy; if you think about it (and of course YOU don't think, you merely rehearse leftist dogma), there's pretty much nothing I could throw a dart at and not hit a bull's eye. Pick any day this piece of shit has been in office.

But it doesn't matter which of his egregious acts or policies I might enumerate for you. I already know your answer to all of them. And something tells me that honest dialogue isn't motivating you here. Maybe it's just because I know you're fundamentally dishonest.

Regardless of the example I give, your answer will be either A) that it's really a wonderful policy that's helping - sniff, sniff - the poor, downtrodden non-millionaires and billionaires, and then you'll cite Paul Krugman or Bill Maher or Michael Moore or some other charlatan and/or doctored statistic; or B) if the results can't be twisted into a fairy tale that even a liberal can swallow, then it's George Bush's fault.

Have I got that right?

See? I saved you the trouble of regurgitating liberal talking points. You can go back to surfing for porn.

Don't thank me. Just get a job and start paying taxes.

Seriously, though, I'd love to explain to you further why Obama sucks. But it how does one describe a cataclysm to a person who is not only blind, deaf and very, very dumb, but whose sole opinion of the world is that cataclysms are good?

See my dilemma, sport?

DRed| 12.7.11 @ 4:58PM

Bogus data? You could have just written 'no' and saved me the time of reading another empty rant.

I am legitimately curious as to why so many of you seem to loathe Obama so intently. To me he seems like another pretty moderate Democrat.

DTOM| 12.7.11 @ 2:29PM

If destroying the confidence of bond offerors to the auto industry is saving it, maybe they would have been better off dead, the automakers, not the bond offerors.

Have you noticed that it's virtually impossible for small businesses to borrow money from banks now?

Do you realize that America now has 3.2 (or so) million fewer people working than four years ago? Of course you don't. Because you believe what ever crap the mainstream media tells you without the slightest bit of intellectual curiousity.

Have you noticed that everywhere you go prices are higher, but the media and the government tells you there's no inflation?

Have you noticed that home prices have continued to fall for three years. That fewer people have homes now. That more foreclosures keep happening?

Didja hear the little President say he's with the Occupy Wall Street people? People whose only discernable position is that they want stuff for free without working for it.

Oh, dingaling ofthe net, why don't you look around you and notice that our economy is in a shambles! Or do you like that? That people who want to work cannot find it?

Are you stupid, ignorant, or complicit?

Really, I would like to know!

Remember "ignorant" is based on willfully hiding from the truth. Yes, ignorant IS your own fault!

Kingofthenet| 12.7.11 @ 3:22PM

It was worse in the Fall of 2008 BEFORE Obama became President....Idiot

Grzmlyk| 12.7.11 @ 3:51PM

Welcome to Liberalville, where up is down, good is bad, in is out, backward is forward, morality is evil, cronyism is social justice, coercion is fairness, personal responsibility is irresponsible, favortism is equality, capitalism is bad, government greed is good, incompetence is the highest form of expression and someone else owes you a sweet lifestyle. Oh. And where you are exempted from living the life you force others to live.

I have a question: Is there an echo down that rabbit hole you live in?

If you see the Queen of Hearts down there, tell her I said hi.

Or maybe the land you inhabit is Animal Farm. Are you one of the pigs who is more equal than the others?

jolizoom| 12.7.11 @ 10:46PM

Yes, he absolutely is President Idiot.

Michigan voter| 12.8.11 @ 10:38AM

Wow, thank you Kingofthenet. I'm glad to see there is another sane person around.
These nuts spouting numbers and drawing totally irrational conclusions from them are beyond belief. You are absolutely correct in your rebuttals.

Michigan voter| 12.8.11 @ 12:24PM

What I have noticed is that you are totally clueless about reality and are stuck in some kind of alternate universe where you can shift all blame to Obama when that is so far from fact.
OWS wants big money out of the Government process and for it to be for the people instead of the top 1/10 of 1% as it is now.
They don't want something for nothing, they just want to be able to work for a fair wage.
If the Government hadn't helped the auto companies, hundreds of thousands more people would be unemployed now and we would be in even worse shape.

idalily| 12.8.11 @ 5:14PM

Bull. Every last word. Michigan voter, all you need to prove that liberal policies are destroying our country is to LOOK AT YOUR OWN STATE. 40 years of liberal domination of your state government and what do you have? The ghetto ghost town of Detroit. The gone auto industry. The crime. The waste. The corruption. All due to your liberal-run state government. I have friends from Michigan who relocated to my state and will NEVER go back. It's a pit. Live with the hell you created, liberal. Just don't make your hell into mine. Keep your hands out of my wallet.

Mike 3/505| 1.4.12 @ 11:33PM

"...saving the Domestic Auto Industry or giving poor people access to Health Care, ...."

Both of those affected and continue to affect me...I pay a higher price for a car because the federal government propped up a failing business and doubled down on that by stealing ownership and giving it to the unions.

Health Care is just more transfer of wealth from me and other makers to the moochers.

Regards,

Mike

Stan Redmond| 12.7.11 @ 3:19PM

He didn't get the memo

WRTolkas| 12.7.11 @ 10:51AM

I have many shotguns with near unlimited ammo, rifles of many sized and also many, many bullets. I have near a year's supply of food and enough water, I have two mean dogs, and a chip on my shoulder. I also have a couple old flint-lock muskets. The mountains are full of flint and I know how to make gunpowder. Finally, my family are French & Indian War Era re-enactors - we know how to live with little to next to nothing in the field; so we can survive or a least take many of the Gimmiecrats (thank you Shamus) with us.

So Mr. Pennell, I'm heading your warning.

USSAlabama| 12.7.11 @ 12:16PM

Interesting how much 'black Friday' revenue was for gun sales.

I am armed with bhut jolokias. Not allowed to discharge a firearm in my city limits, no limits on peppers.

Boar Hunter| 12.7.11 @ 11:18AM

I have a bone to pick with you Timothy. Does it sound liberal of me to complain that by virtue of your residence you are in an earlier time zone than me and steel all my thunder before I get up and have my coffee?

But, I have to admit, like an ol' time Baptist preacher with fire in your belly you have been calling down fire and brimstone on em lately!

On a serious note, thanks for those things I am learning from you and for the encouragement that comes from knowing their are still other men in the world who can be counted on to stand up when words have failed. Your words have been most instructive and inspiring.

Grzmlyk| 12.7.11 @ 12:15PM

You are 100% correct.

Our date with an ugly destiny is already written onto our dance card. And it's in indelible ink.

Al Adab| 12.7.11 @ 2:35PM

November 6, 2012. What happens after that is up to us.

martin j smith| 12.7.11 @ 7:32AM

I hhear that the Republican Party leadershit has decided not to attack Obama personally. I agree: His bathroom habits,sex life and even his attire are none of our business ( except his sex life if it is interesting ). However, what kind of campaign does the Republican Party intend to run: Oh my, poor Obama sob,sob, he just doesn't get it ? You know the average person is smarter than the republican Party leadershit put together. But that is not saying much.

Most people now who Obama is and his hostile Anti-Americanism is very well known. Who do the Republican Leadershit think they are kidding.?

Fredrick Ward| 12.7.11 @ 8:44AM

I agree with those tactics; that the Republican party will not use ad hominem tactics. It would be quite refreshing if this election was handled by the facts of the matter and not more he said she said bullshit, or stupid innuendos that cannot be proven. I want a leader, not a cheerleader looking for a popularity award by stating how ugly the other girl is.

Grzmlyk| 12.7.11 @ 12:29PM

That's not the right analogy.

The right analogy is that the Democrats, fueled by the mainstream media and 100% of popular culture, are coming to this brawl - as always - with knives, grenades, baseball bats, broken bottles, steel-toed shitkickers, subterfuge, lies, diversionary tactics, ganging up, chains, guns, tanks and nuclear weapons. Not to mention sociopathic zeal and a thirst for blood.

We are coming to this fight - as always - with nothing but white gloves and our pristine copy of "The Marquis of Queensbury Rules" for a genteel demonstration of gentlemanly fisticuffs, having agreed to abide by the crooked referee's rules, and we expect to end this jolly good exhibition of good sportsmanship with a hearty handshake and an embrace of our worthy opponent.

Why, we dare not even take advantage of our opponent's glass jaw; that would be unseemly, now, wouldn't it? In fact, why punch at all? We might hurt him, don't you know.

If you don't want to get your uniform dirty, don't suit up.

If you want to save the country, do whatEVER the fuck it takes.

But the GOP - as always - doesn't have the cajones to do that. There's not much point in sending a gelding to a stud farm.

CrackerHound| 12.7.11 @ 1:46PM

Great post...and so true.

How on God's green earth can the R's think going light on Obama is a winning strategy?! The 180 degree opposite is true. Simply state the facts and Obama is toast.....and there should be no"he may have meant well" statements when presenting those facts. The guy is a cruel, class-warfare thug.

I can see the writing on the wall Grzmlyk. The Rebublicans will put Mitt up and he will pull a McCain and actually Campaign for Obama. When Romney's numbers start to look competitive, he will suspend his campaign to let Obama steal the show. McCain said in not so many words, "you know, you really should vote for this historic candidate, I'm just here as a place holder".

I think Newt will give us more in this arena than any of them and since Republicans apparently want to play nice, the electability of Newt is not even a question. The concession speech has already been written. If we are going to lose, at least let Newt shred obama's record and his character while he's at it.

Grzmlyk| 12.7.11 @ 3:10PM

I agree.

The problem is that our country, as currently configured, is NOT, as Rush Limbaugh and so many conservative pundits maintain, center-right. That is because our culture is far left, and as the culture goes, so goes the country. We are a leftist social democracy and have been for half a century.

When when I say leftist, I mean to say that our culture is utterly divorced from cause-and-effect reality and thoroughly immersed in a false consciousness whereby the kleptocracy can carry on its wholesale theft in broad daylight without repercussion as long as they continue to include enough of the crooks on the take and repeat enough of the catch phrases that make the fools feel good about themselves. Hence the utter delusion that is Keynesianism is now the economic law of the land.

And the very few Republicans able to remain truly conservative after one year in Washington know the tide is against them; the rest abandon the ship of fiscal sanity immediately and simply make a show of fiscal conservatism while secretly dividing up the lucre with the Democrats as they all agree to kick the can down the road and make it somebody else's problem.

But all Republicans remain hopelessly enamored of the mainstream media, which remains, like the country, far left. And so they're only too happy to play by the left's rules in the hopes that the New York Times or Brian Williams or Bill Maher or NPR will give them a bit, wet kiss some day.

It never happens, of course, but, when you live in a leftist country, if you don't want to be treated like a leper, you have to basically accept the left's arguments wholesale and then defend your point of view - i.e., the truth - as flaccidly as possible. Which is what we do.

McCain thought he could ride his "maverick" status possibly to the end, as long as he paid obeisance to liberalism. His craven kow-towing to Obama, even as he was ostensibly trying to beat him in the general election, showed just what a useless tool he was of the Statist Machine.

And Romney would be the same. So would Newt.

Anthony| 12.7.11 @ 3:42PM

Grzmlyk, You have made this point previously about our culture and I wish to respond. I do believe we are a center-right country in many ways, however, the dominating forces in our culture, the media, Hollywood, academia, and the political class are indeed far left.
Our society has drifted to the left over the decades because of the influences of these aforementioned "pillars of corruption", that have caused, as you described, the seperation from cause -and - effect reality.
That said, there is a resistance to this cultural sunami of leftism, as evidenced by the fact that the left, despite all their formidible players, have yet to achieved their goal.
The silent majority is slow to react and silent in its awakening, but given an existential threat to America, they will rise.
America is awakening to Obozo and the left. We will see it in November, but without the glittery show of the left.

Michigan voter| 12.8.11 @ 12:29PM

Your vision of the way Republicans are coming into the political fight are delusional at best. There is nothing dirtier than the tactics they use. Fox news lies, twisting what facts they even come close to. This is what the Republicans have been doing for years.

idalily| 12.8.11 @ 5:20PM

Yeah, but the President telling his acolytes to bring a gun to the knife fight wasn't dirty. Telling half the country to go sit in the back of the bus was just so Presidential. You are full of crap. Liberals, as demonstrated by our nightmare of a president, are bullies who want government to make life "fair" whatever that means, even if they have to use totalitarian tactics to do it. They want to bring us all down to the same "fair" level of misery. For a liberal to call a conservative dirty is the height of hypocrisy. Just ask all those dead Kennedy voters. Or ask Acorn. Or ask Corzine where the millions are. Or ask Holder about F&F. Or ask Obama about Solyndra.

And if you can come up with ONE, just ONE, lie told on Fox News (news, mind you, not the opinion shows), present the video clip and the evidence for why it's a lie, and I'll take back every word of what I just posted. Your call.

CrackerHound| 12.7.11 @ 9:25AM

Yes Martin...the Repugs are only a little better than Obama. The marxist media and collegiate complex has manged to reduce the opposition to nothing more than a reality show...a dysfunctional front maquerading as an opposition party. Pandering Republicans also bear the blame. They have had no courage since Reagan.

I believe it is not too late but it will take last minute heroics to rescue this country. I don't think it' a stretch to say we are truly in the midst of a radical transformation of America. We are headed towards an honest to God, flat out totalitarian marxist rule. Once the economic horror is truly unleashed on the populace, the finishing touches will be easy.

Rhoetus | 12.7.11 @ 1:36PM

Republicans should run ads:
Solyndra scandal & Cronyism
Failed Stimulus
FED manipulation, TARP, etc.
Job killing regulations
Obama's use of regulations to end run the law
Obama's ties to Bill Ayers and other radicals
Obama's own words
War on the producers and the private sector
The growing Federal Deficit and national debt

CrackerHound| 12.7.11 @ 1:56PM

Don't forget:
Fast & Furious
Bitter clingers speech
Jobs Czar Immelt made billions in profit, paid zero taxes

foreign policy disaster
Nobel Peace Prize acceptance for doing NOTHING

called Americans "teabaggers" and supported OWS (class divider)
looks like Lenin at a podium with his little chin-up move

Rhoetus | 12.7.11 @ 11:35PM

How could I miss "Fast and Furious"? A good friend is with the Border Patrol here in Arizona. Then there are the indicted friends of Obama.

Michigan voter| 12.8.11 @ 12:33PM

You two have gone off the deep end. Everything you've listed here has taken a small grain of truth and then twisted it and made it something it wasn't. You've swallowed the GOP bait hook line and sinker.

Kenny| 12.7.11 @ 7:34AM

The mascot of the Democratic Party is a jack ass.

That should be changed to tape worm or some other suitable parasite.

Nancy in NC| 12.7.11 @ 8:06AM

I agree. Jacks are embarrassed, and they actually have some good uses.

USSAlabama| 12.7.11 @ 12:20PM

An ass is a symbol of humility. Something no one in the DemoCRAT Party would know anything about.

The helminths as mascot are taken by MD's.

Too bad we don't know what satan looks like . . . isn't he their real mascot?

Rhoetus | 12.8.11 @ 8:22AM

That's why it's called politics:
poli as in many, tics as in small blood-sucking insects.

JaniceGee| 12.7.11 @ 7:36AM

Barack was a community organizer for only 3 years before Harvard Law. While he was a marxist he wasn't much of an organizer. I read that one of his fellow workers said that he spent most of his time looking in the mirror. That sounds right!

At the Harvard Law Review he was a no show coming in once in a while to give them his blessing.
While he had been plotting his political career since around the age of 10, I would guess he was spending his time doing coke and participating in the gay subculture. This is what he has tried to hide about his past, not his marixism.

Ken (Old Texican)| 12.7.11 @ 7:42AM

Timothy,
a 4.10 shotgun is the ideal tool for our ladies. The recoil is minimal, but withthree inch shells, actually shoots harder than a 12 guage, albeit a smaller pattern.
I prefer pump guns. They just never jam or break.

And
If somehow, Paul gets elected: we will have plenty of shovel ready jobs to do....digging fall-out shelters in our back yards and machine-gun nests on our beaches.
Peter,
thanks again.

Nancy in NC| 12.7.11 @ 8:05AM

I personally like my Mossberg 12 gauge. I'm 64 and have absolutely no problem shooting it, especially from the hip. But I still think I need to add a rifle and start practicing. I may need it when they send the blue hats to get me.

Ken (Old Texican)| 12.7.11 @ 8:17AM

My grand mother liked her 12 guage too...until she turned 80 (smile) then she dropped down to a 4.10 for bird hunting.

Dixie Pixie| 12.7.11 @ 9:03AM

Ken you are a optimist for thinking there will be something to defend.
At this rate we will be selling the furniture for kindling while an amazon river of our money flows into Washington.

Deborah D | 12.7.11 @ 8:57AM

Thanks for the suggestion, Ken. I've been thinking about a shotgun for a while.

God bless.

Boar Hunter| 12.7.11 @ 12:40PM

Don't listen to Ken.

You can lower the recoil of a 12 gauge to that of a .410, but you cannot raise a .410 to the level of a 12 gauge. Buy a 12 gauge pump (Mossbergs are inexpensive and well made) change the ammo in it to lighter loads if recoil is a problem. Remember, some guns you shoot cause its fun. Some guns you shoot cause you have to. You are looking for recoil that you can safely manage. Find rounds of sufficiently low recoil to practice and then change them out for the ones you intend to use...the not fun ones.

The versatility of a 12 gauge pump shotgun is unsurpassed. If recoil is an issue, you can obtain shells that are half the length of a standard 2 3/4 chambering and have the same recoil as a .410 but allow you to hold two times the guns magazine capacity (12 rounds in a 6 round tubular magazine). These are great for close range or indoor shooting as they won't penetrate interior walls (as much) and create undue risk to other members of your household.

You may upgrade the "recoil" of the shells you select or obtain a stock that reduces the felt recoil (some by springs) until you determine what level of recoil is manageable for you. The projectiles contained within the shells can be adapted according to your shooting situation. Number 4 shot (lots of smaller balls) for indoors or 00 buck (9 larger balls) for more range/penetration, but you can transition to a one ounce slug for significant range outdoors. Remember, all of these are deadly.

Find someone who is qualified to teach you how to use the weapon. It does not have to be a paid expert, but character is as important as knowledge (Perhaps a mid-east vet who is now a hunter? or your police department might offer classes through your city).

If you are obtaining the weapon for "protection" prepare your mind for the reality of what is involved with both confronting and shooting someone. Do not assume it will be like what you see on television. Consider it carefully and if your heart cannot manage the thought of killing someone, consider pepper-spray. Consider pepper-spray even if you do buy a gun, it is always nice to have options. Pepper-spray might hurt like the dickens when the human or animal is first sprayed with it, but its effects are over in an hour and you will not have to live with the aftermath.

Remember there are a lot of evil people who have been confronted by people wielding firearms and some of them are more comfortable having a gun pointed at them than you are with pointing it.

If possible, always try to keep a safe distance, try and maintain a protected position (stand behind stuff) they have to get past to reach you. Give clear directions (if possible) and be prepare to kill the bad man if you believe he intends to kill you or do you great bodily harm. It should be a clue that if you say "Don't come any closer" while pointing a shotgun at them and they keep approaching you while speaking to you in a calm voice. A calm voice does not diminish the threat he poses. Examine actions and possible motives not words.

Ask yourself, you are pointing a firearm at a man capable of taking his life from him. You have told him to come no closer, yet he persists. What are the best possible intentions this man would have for you in his mind?

Kingofthenet| 12.7.11 @ 1:24PM

Stop with the guns, it is FAR more prudent to invest in good solid doors, and if need be some steel window auto roll-ups, than to let someone get in and have to gun them down.

Kingofthenet| 12.7.11 @ 1:29PM

Heck, you don't even need to do all that, just get one room (Your bedroom?) set up with a MONSTER kick proof door, a cell phone(and landline) and just sit back and let the Calvary take care of the problem.

Ken (Old Texican)| 12.7.11 @ 1:52PM

Ass of the net...splendid ideas!

but thank God our founders didn't accept them either.
Neither shall I.

...heh, I might be the "Calvary" you are waiting for.

Boar Hunter| 12.7.11 @ 4:16PM

Ken, I hope you know I was only teasing you about the .410 its a fine weapon...for girls.

No comment as to the retard who demonstrates his monumental ignorance about every subject he comments on.

LOL like all know-it-all liberals this idiot is always ready to provide his expertise on so much he knows nothing about. Not even knowing what type of house this woman lives in, whether its an apartment, mobil home or a house built a hundred years ago, this "security expert" advises the expenditure of thousands of dollars in a steel "kick proof door" and, oh wait if there are windows I will need "steel window auto roll-ups."

His 10 year old mind envisions the construction of a highly secure fortress from which no one can enter, all manufactured on the budget of the alliance his mom provides him. I would love to see the look on his face after he discovers how long it took the bad man with a crowbar and a little simple physics knowledge to pry it open or come through the drywall without touching the door of his mega fortress. As if anyone would bother.

He has no concept of the drain on local resources during a natural disaster and cannot envision the concept of self reliance when the calvary other people pay for is being otherwise occupied.

You offered to be the calvary for him, I assure you he would not reciprocate. Not for you, or for the woman who is now thinking of buying a gun. Think of it, he will not protect himself. He will wait for the strong men with the guns he detests to come and save him.

I personally hope he dies screaming at the hands of the bad men he and the other useless vermin of our society support and coddle by their inaction and insipid political views. I would not be his calvary. I pray for the return of natural selection.

Al Adab| 12.7.11 @ 5:04PM

KingOTN forgets, as lefties will, that the best defense is a good offense.

MikeG| 12.7.11 @ 8:20PM

Hey sissy, what if your family is spread throughout the house, you run into the room ?

Boar Hunter| 12.7.11 @ 9:33PM

Good come back! I am left speechless, speechless I tell you! I don't really know what your getting at but that was such a wake up call for me...errr I think it was anyway. LOL and sissy? Were you trying to insult me by calling me a sissy? Seriously that is comedy. I'm not the proponent of hiding in the closet lol.

I would like to thank you for your concern about my family. Unlike yours they will be taken care of. Mine know what to do in an emergency they are all quite capable of repelling your imaginary invasion.

Try and remember not to panic and lock yours out of the "safe" place you constructed to cower in while yours are running around like circus clowns.

By the way, everyone already knows all the alter ego names you use on here to try and demonstrate what wide support your listening audience has so please quit embarrassing yourself.

Oh and Mike, or whatever it is you want me to call you, one last reminder, try and remember that bad guys commonly set fire to places they loot to destroy evidence. Make sure you have an extra pair of asbestos undies with you when the bad men come. It might get hot in the room before your calvary comes to the rescue.

jolizoom| 12.7.11 @ 11:03PM

Ummmm... Pretty sure Mike was responding to KOTN. Note the lack of indentation relative to your post.

MikeG| 12.8.11 @ 11:56AM

Boar, calm down. Sissy comment directed to the guy who runs into the room,King. You didn't say your were running into a room. Name is MikeG, what are you talking about?

Intelligent Design| 12.7.11 @ 8:09AM

Meanwhile, the NAACP promotes voter fraud, complaining to UN about American laws:
http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....d-nations/

Indy| 12.7.11 @ 8:16AM

It would be interesting to see if there are any real journalists out there who will look at voting rules in other countries such as Canada and those in Europe...many I think require an ID. I cannot buy Sudafed in my state without providing my driver's license, do you think minorities need cold / allergy meds? I wonder how they get them?

Fredrick Ward| 12.7.11 @ 8:53AM

Apparently, the NAACP thinks that the black and hispanic voters are too stupid to fill out a form to get a driver's license or state id. That could be the only other possible explanation aside from the fact that they desire to support blatant voter fraud.

Hoover Carter | 12.7.11 @ 8:13AM

Both Hoover and Carter lost overwhelmingly because they lost blue-collar voters. 2012 will be no different! www.hoovercarter2012.com

Maddox| 12.7.11 @ 9:06AM

Unless as Fredrick mentioned, the NAACP gets its way and the ballot boxes are stuffed by ACORN.

Michigan voter| 12.8.11 @ 10:43AM

Maddox, show 1 actual instance of ballot box stuffing proved by anything other than your own personal delusions.
It didn't happen, you have nothing to show.

Jim| 12.7.11 @ 8:19AM

Probably won't be any elections. As the puppet masters see their election plan is falling short, way short, they will instigate massive OWS protests. These protests, with the help of an economy that is basically shutting down, will turn to violence. Now we have riots. Now we have people dying and property destroyed. What is a president to do? Well...declare martial law and clear the streets. This becomes tricky though. The masters really have to conceal the fact that they are promoting the riots on one hand and tell the idiots they might have to martyr themselves on the other. These riots will take place near the election. So with all this going on elections will be suspended. If this scenario is too risky then the thugs will just send out the "you owe it to me" bunch and create so much turbulence in the voting precints around the country that all tallies will be challenged. Florida and Minnesota all over again. Don't think the Constitution ever envisioned this happening. Obama stays until all this can be sorted out. At this juncture with their demented political philosophy exposed these gangsters will not go quitely into the night.

Harry the Horrible| 12.7.11 @ 10:42AM

Don't worry about the elections. The "puppet masters" have it covered: Romney, Obama, or Gingrich, it doesn't matter. The plans advance.

Mac Jehoff| 12.7.11 @ 8:38AM

Mr.Ferrera wants to see Marco Rubio's political carrer end. Why else would he promote Senator Rubio as VP? The ticket would have more appeal as Rubio/Gingrich.

USSAlabama| 12.7.11 @ 12:24PM

It's necessary to select as VP someone who can be in place to become President.

Mike Hawk| 12.7.11 @ 7:52PM

Like Biden??

Mike Hawk| 12.7.11 @ 7:59PM

Question #2. In the last 200 years: How many Veeps were elected to succeed the President they served under??...and how many Veeps were elected President?? (succeeding a deceased President excepted)

jolizoom| 12.7.11 @ 11:10PM

How many times it has happened is irrelevant. The VP must be eligible to become President if necessary.

poet756| 12.7.11 @ 8:47AM

Very good article. I would add two items though. Since Obama's margin in blue states will be depressed and his margins of losses will larger in red states, he could very well lose Ca's 55 electoral votes that will go to the popular vote winner.
#2 The GINA Scale, which measures the gap between the rich and the poor is interesting. Under Reagan and W Bush, the gap shrank by 7%. Under Clinton it grew by 6.7% and in just 2 years of Obama the gap has grown 5.6%. The reason is simple. As you make investing in a new business or expanding your old one, the rich find other places to put their money, taking away the path to economic improvement for tens of millions of Americans. But under capitalist republicans, people can advance through promotions or making a move to another company.

Dixie Pixie| 12.7.11 @ 8:50AM

Ok, I will bite.
Under what political formulation will a black man or woman vote for a Gingrich / Rubio ticket when Obama has just received $2.4 TRILLION Dollars in borrowing authority to spend on his supporters?

Just in case you missed it, the Republican Party jettisoned any hope of receiving the minority vote when it failed to defend Herman Cain.
Instead the Republican field consists of lily-white, inside-the-beltway professional politicians with a highly negative appeal to that voter base.

Fredrick Ward| 12.7.11 @ 9:04AM

Yeah, the African Americans will vote for Obama because he is black. Whether they are being screwed over by his administration means nothing to them because they have been screwing each other over for generations; right back to the inception of the slave trade here in the United States when their own people sold their ancestors into slavery. They will vote for Obama because it is the expected behavior of black people. Individualism is not a highly held trait in that community; they have a deeper sense of tribal community than Caucasians ever have had.

Mimi| 12.7.11 @ 10:03AM

Dixie...I see it the opposite way....The Dem's destroyed Herman Cain...they had to... and will suffer terribly when the Black Voter goes to the Polls. Obama has done nothing for Black families'''they have suffered the most under his policies....The Axelrod attack on Herman will hurt them ...a lot of the GOP supported him...The truth to his demise will come out...there's too many talkers!

Dixie Pixie| 12.7.11 @ 5:17PM

Greetings Mimi.
I was struck by the incongruous fantasy that there is a conservative candidate or candidates that can split the Democratic coalition, rally the Independents, Moderates and the political center.
Thus my comment.

The reality is, after Herman Cain dropped out the only Republicans left are professional politicians acceptable to the Washington Elite.
No outsider needed or wanted to run as a Presidential candidate.

Read the article at the American Thinker:::::
http://www.americanthinker.com....._hear.html

Louis Jenkins| 12.7.11 @ 9:10AM

And why shouldn't Obama drop the white middle class? They're not paying the taxes as much as billionairs. Yes, Obama is organizing the ship of fools, the takers. Now let's see how many of the white middle class catch on to Obama?

Get one thing straight, folks, if you're middle class you no longer count for the Democrats, and to be honest, the Republicans either.

Petronius| 12.7.11 @ 9:33AM

It's only taken 40 years for the Demoncrat leadership to admit they hate people who work for a living in order to perpetuate the belief that government is the well spring of life. It is if you are a professional Parasite!!! Democrats champion entitlement and Republicans practice graft. So working people have no political standing, nor are of any value to them. A pox on both their houses.

Crafty Bernardo| 12.7.11 @ 9:35AM

Stopped reading at "Democrat Party"... that's when I always know I'm reading mindless garbledy-gook that is produced for non-thinkers.

The Bruce| 12.7.11 @ 3:58PM

Why? I've never heard anyone say, "He/she is a Democratic." Or "The Democratics won a majority in the Senate."

What is this obsession Democrats have with adding an "ic" at the end of the word if the next word in the sentence is "party?"

RCV| 12.7.11 @ 5:17PM

Because the name of the party is the Democratic Party.

Radioman777| 12.7.11 @ 10:00AM

The Kansas speech was pure, unadulterated Marxism, nothing less.

Mimi| 12.7.11 @ 10:06AM

Like Tim claims, he's outed himself as a MARXIST!

buckeyeman| 12.7.11 @ 10:17AM

He outed himself as a Marxist years ago.

Rhoetus | 12.7.11 @ 1:53PM

So did LBJ.

Indy| 12.7.11 @ 10:19AM

and the GOP wants to play nice???...I doubt they will call him out on it, they need to educate voters daily, we need to see Paul Ryan, Rubio, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, R. Johnson, West and others who can articulate the message and debate the leftist media. McConnell and Boehner are too weak, they cannot get the job done.

CrackerHound| 12.7.11 @ 10:33AM

We do need that Indy....someone just needs to keep Donald Trump out of the mix. He is such a clown!

As I stated in an earlier post, Republicans don't have the will or courage to take it to the media and actually defend conservatism and make the case for what really needs to be done to rescue this country. They care more for their own political carreers.

CrackerHound| 12.7.11 @ 10:35AM

Scott Walker (R,WI.) seems to be a Republican with courage. He had his own little Alamo going in that state.

Walker/Kasich 2012

Indy| 12.7.11 @ 11:33AM

The R's with courage are the Governors, yes, Walker, Nikki Haley, Jan Brewer, Chris Christie and Kasich. Jindal has been too quiet, we need to hear from him.

By the way, speaking of Kasich, one story the media is ignoring ...wait for it...
Ohio union workers are being laid off, partly due to high healthcare costs

http://biggovernment.com/jhart.....get-fired/

martin j smith| 12.7.11 @ 10:39AM

The Republican establishment and the Socialists agree on one thing at least Crony Capitalism. That said, The issue is indeed a leader that we need but how about one who tells the truth about who Obama is based on facts. Such facts include his rhetoric ( I mean the man's words quoted exactly as stated are facts right , Fredrick Ward ?
How about citing his policies --his legislation,his appointees and his edicts --these are facts ? I would also put his his foreign policies and statements related to them. Mr Wards --or whoever you are--when you7 add up all the facts ( and if you include his associations and his history thereof it adds more ) you come ato one conclusion from my view at least: This man hates this antion,the intent is to destroy us and he has succeeded. All based on facts --not name calling. But, speaking of this I would also say that the terms Socialist,Communist,Marxist-Leninist would all apply based on the facts--not innuendo or rhomro and allegation which the attacks on Herman Cain so far seem to be.

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 10:56AM

You are dreaming, but not sure what world you are dreaming in. This article is full of wishful thinking, innuendo and supposition, but, as usual, devoid of facts.
Sure, the economy is an issue in the next election. It generally is - But what is left unsaid is that the majority of Americans put the blame for the mess we're in squarely at GW Bush's feet when asked who's to blame for the economic mess - it's GW Bush 40%, Republicans 28%, and Obama 24%. So you see, 76% of Americans don't see the President as the issue. In fact, they know his policies and I'll give some credit to Bush policies at the end of his term too helped to staunch the bleeding and stop the economy's freefall. They also know that the Senate fillibuster from the Republicans stood in the way of even more progress. They heard Mitch McConnell say after the 2010 election that the R's #1 goal was to beat President Obama - #1 goal? I guess the American people are #2 or #3 ? He never did say, but the R's have to be held accountable for that.
Moreover, as Frank Luntz admitted, "the 99% vs the 1% scares me to death" because he knows who the 99% identify with - and it isn't the Republicant crowd with their crony capitalism, Wall Street Banksters and K Street Lobbyists.
Now, are you saying that 99% are "takers"? And, you're dead wrong that the working class has been abandoned by the D's. On the contrary, most of the policies they have promoted and still promote help the great middle class. The latest extension of the payroll tax cut is an example. The President wants to extend that tax cut to 297 million workers and is asking < 3 million millionaires to kick in 3% surtax on their "second"million in income to pay for it. Hmmm, 3 million vs 297 million (approx of course) .. should be a no-brainer, but the Republicans are fighting it tooth and nail, to protect their wealthy 3% buddies. They don't care about any of you that vote for them either, but you don't see it.

skip| 12.7.11 @ 12:39PM

Income tax rates per the Tax Foundation (taxfoundation.org/files/):

Federal budgets per the Office of Management and Budget (whitehouse.gov/omb/):

2003 federal revenue:
$1.782314 trillion

2007 federal revenue:
$ 2.567985 trillion

Federal tax revenue increased over 44% after the Bush II tax cuts from 2003 to 2007.

2007 income tax payers (141.070971 million)

top 1% (1.410710 million) share of income tax:
40.42%

bottom 95% (134.357161 million) share of income tax:
39.37%

top 50% (70.535486 million) share of income tax paid:
97.11%

bottom 50% (70535485 million) share of income tax paid:
2.89%

After federal tax revenue increased over 44% after the Bush II tax cuts from 2003 to 2007 the top 1% paid over 1% more income tax than the bottom 95% combined.

2007 federal revenue:
$2.567985 trillion

2009 federal revenue:
$2.104989 trillion

Federal tax revenue decreased over 22% after 1 year of Obama and the stimulus.

2009 income tax payers (137.982203 million)

top 1% (1.379822 million) share of income tax paid:
36.7%

bottom 95% (131.083093 million) share of income tax paid:
41.3%

top 50% (68.991102 million) share of income tax paid:
97.7%

bottom 50% (68.991101 million) share of income tax paid:
2.3%

After federal tax revenue decreased over 22% after 1 year of Obama and his stimulus the top 1% paid 4.6% less income tax than the bottom combined.

Budget deficit by president:

Reagan (1981-1989), Bush I (1989-1993), Bush II (2001-2009) 20 year combined total:
$4.277406 trillion deficit

Obama (2009-2011) 3 year total:
$4.351296 trillion deficit

Obama budget deficit in his first 3 years has already exceeded the total budget deficit of Reagan and Bush I and Bush II combined.

2007 Bush II budget deficit with last republican controlled House of Representatives:
$0.160701 trillion deficit

2011 Obama budget defict with last democrat controlled House of Representatives:
$1.645119 trillion deficit

The Obama deficit with the last democrat House was more than 1,023% higher than the Bush II deficit with the last republican House.

Clinton (1993-1995) 2 year democrat controlled House of Representatives budgets:
$0.367138 trillion deficit

Clinton (1995-2001) 6 year republican controlled House of Representatives budgets:
$0.430042 trillion surplus

The republican controlled House had a budget surplus while the democrat controlled House had a deficit when Clinton was president.

Republicans have been fiscally negligent and have failed to act in accordance with their conservative fiscal principles. Democrats are exponently worse yet have acted in exact accordance with their liberal fiscal principles.

It is not federal revenue that is a problem, the problem is 100% federal spending. Even the most pathetic despicable stupid lying liberal cannot deny it.

Idiot.

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 2:40PM

"It is not federal revenue that is a problem, the problem is 100% federal spending. " - You're wrong, of course. The US pays the lowest taxes it has since the Great Depression as a % of GDP. As our taxes have come down, so has our standard of living - except for the wealthy. They got all the tax cuts and the 99% got shafted and it shows today. Revenue IS the problem, first from such low taxes, second from high unemployment. Spending is larger, due to higher unemployment payouts and other safety-net programs for hurting unemployed people. But that is temporary.
Even the most ignorant, selfish, nasty, self-centered bully of a Republicant right wing troglodyte cannot deny it...

JimBob7| 12.7.11 @ 4:22PM

Purplething, you could not be more wrong when you said "You're wrong, of course." The reason we pay less taxes than during the great Depression, is because two world class dolts BOTH raised taxes in a Depression, guaranteeing that WWII would occur. Hoover raised taxes from a high of 28 percent to 65 percent in 1930, and Roosevelt raised taxes ultimately to 90 percent. You are as big a dolt as they were.

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 4:58PM

We pay less taxes than during Eisenhower's years and ever since you moron.

idalily| 12.8.11 @ 5:24PM

Yep, Purp still doesn't understand the relationship between tax rates and tax revenues. Good to know some things in life are predictable.

Hoads| 12.7.11 @ 4:37PM

Hey blooguy, you're really grasping at straws spewing out whatever last talking point you picked up passing the newsstand or the rows of TV at Best Buy. The U.S. currently has the most progressive income tax in the world. Our tax rates may not be the highest but they are close enough to those of avowed socialist countries for a country whose Constitution outlines free market individualism.

Our standards of living have led the world. Our poor are richer than most people in the world and we continue to have, if not the largest, then one of the largest middle classes in the world.

Obama has outspent ALL other presidents COMBINED.

Get your head out of you a**

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 5:10PM

I don't have talking points - I have my own brain and can reason it out for myself. YOUR talking point is to call everyone else's argument that you don't agree with a "talking point" ... it's a simpleton trick that we've all caught on to so you'll have to come up with another trick.
" Obama has outspent ALL other presidents COMBINED" ? - Take your head out of Rush Limbaugh's humoungous a* or Rupert Murdoch's shrivelled skanky a*. - On point - Take a look at Fox News compiled to show that Reagan started the National Debt debacle and ran up our deficit in each Republican term since then ... http://nation.foxnews.com/us-d...../chart-day
"Our poor are richer than most people in the world" - Wow, that tells all about what you people think. You really believe you would never be poor, do you? And, you're okay with the 1% having more and more, even though you all will never be part of the 1% since their bought and paid for politicians will make sure you don't. Since we pay the lowest taxes in over 1/2 and century and we have nearly the lowest taxes (2nd from the bottom of the list) of the industrialized countries - where are all the jobs that low taxes promise? Where are all the jobs that the Republicants promised in 2010? The Bush tax cuts were extended - where are the jobs? The payroll tax cut was enacted in 2010 - where are all the jobs? Tax cuts do not equal jobs - unless you give the money to those who spend it. It never has been true, but y'all are ignorant or stupid to believe the right-wing rhetoric. the 99% will bury you in 2012 ... wait and see.

skip| 12.7.11 @ 5:12PM

Pimplepus,

Bush II cut taxes in 2001 and in 2003.

2003 federal revenue was $1.782314 trillion.

Between 2003 and 2007 federal revenue increased more than 44% during the first 4 full years of the Bush II tax cuts.

2007 federal revenue was $2.567985 trillion.

2007 top 1% income earners paid more income tax than the bottom 95% combined.

1981-1989 Reagan, 1989-1993 Bush I, 2001-2009 Bush II budgets 20 year combined total was a $4.277406 trillion deficit, more than 1,023% higher than Bush II.

2009-2011 Obama 3 year total was a $4.351296 trillion deficit, more than 20 years combined by Reagan, Bush I, Bush II.

2007 Bush II budget with the last republican majority House was a $0.160701 trillion deficit.

2011 Obama budget with the last democrat majority House was a $1.645119 trillion deficit.

Idiot.

skip| 12.7.11 @ 5:17PM

should be:

Last Obama democrat House budget more than 1,023% higher than last Bush II republican budget, but any sane individual already knew that.

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 6:49PM

the last Bush budget was 1.4 Trillion ... how is that again? Stop your misdirection of who has the House ... the Budget belongs to the President.
And the current President's budget is his too, not the House Republican - or do you want to pin 1.2 Trillion on the House Republicans now?

skip| 12.7.11 @ 7:29PM

Pimplepus,

Obama added his stimulus to the last Bush II budget.

Idiot.

Shit for brains.

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 9:07PM

No ... Obama put the wars on the budget, that Bush kept off-budget, fool.

skip| 12.7.11 @ 9:56PM

Pimplepus,

Obama added his stimulus to the last Bush II budget.

Pathetically stupid, despicably lying, emotionally prattling idiot.

SGT Baker (native Coloradoan)| 12.8.11 @ 1:59AM

Wrong, the budget belongs to the House of Representives as outlined in the Constitution.

Mike 3/505| 1.4.12 @ 11:42PM

"...pathetic despicable stupid lying liberal..."

Redundant. :-)

Regards,

Mike

jernigc| 12.7.11 @ 11:05AM

President Obama is an economic terrorist. His re-distributive policies are little more than the theft of one person's property that is laundered by the government and either given to another citizen or squandered on some economic enterprise favored politically by his administration rather than leaving the same monies in the private sector and having the market allocate the capital efficiently.

What we need in the United States is free market capitalism. What we have is crony capitalism. Crony capitalism didn't originate with this administration, but they have turned it into an art form.

If we really want to succeed in renewing our economy and helping the greatest number of our citizen we must change our tax code and eliminate all subsidies, carve outs and tax credits and exclusions, pare back our regulatory environment, and reinvigorate the concept of moral hazard. Each of these actions will improve how capital is allocated, balance the risk/reward equation which in turn will result in better investment decisions, and provide the highest rate of marginal utility possible for any given level of economic activity.

President Obama, and for that matter any collection of "expert advisers", lack to knowledge to manage our economy as efficiently as it can function if it self-regulates. For a more through understanding of why this is so I suggest reading Hayek's treatise on "The Use of Knowledge in Society". This treaties can be found at the following link: http://www.econlib.org/library.....Knw1.html.

The President has apparently forgotten, or never understood in the first place, that he has only one responsibility and that is the protection of our individual freedom, beginning with the protection of our property rights. We are a society of individuals, not one giant collective. President Obama's class warfare rhetoric has only one purpose and that is to get himself re-elected. Don't let this happen. He is small minded and petty and cares not a whit about you or me, just about himself and holding on to power.

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 11:29AM

President Obama's responsibility is clearly stated by the Oath he has pledged to "protect and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic." That includes the Bill of Rights, the Amendments and the Body of the Constitution.

jernigc| 12.7.11 @ 11:40AM

I agree, and all of those things involve protecting individual rights, not some notion of a groups collective rights. And, before you come back at me with some notion of "the general welfare" try and actually understand what that means by reading the Federalist Papers. The term "general welfare" only applies to the federal responsibilities as articulated in article 1, section 8 of the constitution. All of these responsibilities speak to either protecting the citizen and their property rights or to supporting interstate and internatonal commerce.

Ken (Old Texican)| 12.7.11 @ 11:46AM

purple...
he has NOT defended it. He has shat all over it....and bragged about it.

Al Adab| 12.7.11 @ 2:40PM

In point of fact Purp and Ken,
The case can be made that Obama is - as clearly as many of his friends like Ayers et al are - a domestic enemy of our Constitution. What else did "fundamantally transform America" mean?

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 2:47PM

I don't agree. He stopped torture, repealed DADT, equal pay for equal work law passed, protected our interests from pirates and got rid of Osama Bin Laden. He's been wonderful.

W| 12.7.11 @ 4:13PM

Purp,
Equal pay for equal work has been the law for over 40 years and has always been the law in unionized employers.

The Navy Seals killed Osama while Obama was playing golf. Panetta and HillaryBalls gave the order to kill while Obama wet himself.

"stopped torture?" If we had not waterboarded three terrorrists then the Seals would not have had the info to kill Osama. Panetta admitted that much. So you are happy that terrorrists don't have to talk anymore? You want to give them free in state tuition also?

DADT, who cares? that was Bubba's legacy.

So this is your list of Obama's major accomplishments. Nothing about the 10% unemployment Obama caused, the record deficits Obama caused, the escalation of the Aghan war Obama caused, the brilliant "fast and furious" idea to sell weapons to Mexican criminals to kill Americans,?

You are easy to please.
Don't forget to vote for Obama on Nov 12, 2012 as you pointed out.

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 5:23PM

Apparently, you're not a woman - ask any woman if that is true ... law or otherwise. Since the Civil War, blacks were given the vote - by law. But we still needed the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Bill in the 60's ... It was the same problem for women not getting equal pay ... go ask a woman. Lily Ledbetter Law was the name of the law Obama signed .. Google her name and learn something.
The Navy Seals could do nothing without the Commander-in-Chief's orders and strategy leading up to those orders. Are you that stupid?
The Entire Military argues against torture, many, many expert interrogators say as much and that it doesn't work. Even Sen. John McCain argues against torture. It doesn't work, and he should know. The tortured always tries to stop the torture and will say whatever makes it stop. That's why Bush couldn't get Bin Laden - Bush was stupid and listened to Darth Vader ( I mean Cheney).
Obama has killed more terrorists in 3 years than Bush did in 7, because he has a superior strategy to Bush.
If you're gay and in the Armed Services, you care about DADT. If you're in charge of the Armed Services, you care, because thousands of highly trained, skilled quality servicemen and women were discharged because they love the same sex partner. It's a waste to talent, time, money. And, most important, it's a human rights issue, and is the right thing to do for America.
Oh, no, Obama has over 300 accomplishments since he was elected - do you want me to list them for your pea brain to absorb?
What did Bush accomplish in 8 years? How about Papa Bush? How about the God, Ronald Reagan? What did he accomplish?
And you're wrong too, I am very hard to please ... and Republicants have turned me against them with their social issue hypocrisy, their economic policy hypocrisy and even their military policy hypocrisy. But that's another discussion.

W| 12.7.11 @ 6:31PM

Purp,
Since the 1964 Civil Rights Act it has been illegal to discriminate because of race, gender, national origin, and religion in terms of employment. I don't need google or to ask a woman, because I have tried these claims. Every state has the same law as the national Civil Rights Act for intra-state employment. Are you really this dense?

Are you really that stupid that you believe women were being paid less for the same work and did not sue before Obama became president? Obama's "law" was window dressing for dupes like you.

Genius, Why is it ok for Obama to kill terrorrists but not to use enhanced interrogation to obtain information to prevent terrorrists from killing Americans?

If you can count up to 300, please list Obama's accomplishments. Don't cut and paste from Obama's web page.

As for Reagan, I guess you can start with the defeat of the Soviet Union and the demise of communism, but you probably don't consider that an accomplishment since you are a brain dead lefty.

As for DADT, that was the idea of your hero, Bubba.

W| 12.7.11 @ 7:06PM

Purp,
Apparantly you do not know anything about the Ledbetter case and you tried to mislead here. The case dealt with the 180 (300 in most states) day statute of limitations to file claims under the Civil Rights Law and not with what your represented here. It has been the law as I told you that you cannot discriminate. The issue was the statute of limitations. The law was passed to amend when the date starts running to file a claim.
Stick to your day job as a public employee.

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 9:19PM

Well, you really told me ... you've cleared that up for us ... thank you. You're wrong, but I have no interest in showing Mr. Know-It-All how his ego gets in his way of his own thinking.
Reagan defeated the Soviet Union? Seriously, you're demented if you believe that. Had nothing to do with Gorbachev, riiiiight? Nothing to do with the 10 Presidents before him, riiiight. Just because he presided over the it doesn't mean he caused it - oh, wait, Reagan wasn't President when the wall fell - it was Papa Bush. Papa Bush killed Communism - right? Communism is alive and well in Cuba, China, VietNam, so much for that hornball comment.
Reagan did begin the borrow and spend "deficits don't matter" spending spree Republicants have been on for 30 years. 10.7Trillion Reagan and the Reagan wannabees, the Bushes, added to the National Debt... and now you hypocrites call foul on the Democratic President who saved our country from another Great Depression, with a helping hand from Baby Bush's TARP bailout program (700 Billion, remember that little gem)
DADT was stupid to begin with, and has met it's death, thankfully.
Enhanced interrogation doesn't work ...ask others that know more than even you, oh brilliant one - Try John McCain who experienced it first hand, or all the Armed Services Chiefs, the Army Field Manual, the Geneva Convention ... you name it - people of sound mind and rational thought decided this long ago, until Bubble headed Bush Baby came in and listened to Darth Cheney.
Stick to your own day job as Rush Limbaugh's P.A.L. ....you can guess what that is.

W| 12.7.11 @ 10:18PM

Wow, what a coherent response. I forgot you lefties love Gorbachov and hate Reagan. Thanks for reminding me.

Please explain again why it is ok for Obama to order the killing of terrorrists but it was not ok for Bush to order the waterboarding of three terrorrists who provided the info for the Seals to kill Osama? You can take your time, check with the Huff Post, watch some MSNBC, read some Rosie O'Donell, and get back to us.
Don't misunderstand, It is ok for Obama to kill the terrorrists. I just want to know why we can't get info from them before Obama kills them. Is that clear for you?
I have a private self employed day job, not a goverment handout like you. Keep that in mind next time you want to play street lawyer here to misrepresent the facts.

Mike 3/505| 1.4.12 @ 11:48PM

Reagan, with malice and forethought plotted and brought about the demise of the Soviet Union.

Al Adab| 12.7.11 @ 4:25PM

Of course you don't agree.
There was no torture to stop
DADT was a travesty. They should not be IN the military.
The navy shot the pirate. More agressive action is required.
OBL is dead, so is Saddam. Bush started that remember?
Why are our soldiers in Libya or Uganda?
Why do I have to buy insurance?
Moral relativism is false.
Choice, Tolerance and Diversity are idols.

It goes on old friend but our incompatible views of the moral universe and Western Civilization make a conversation rather pointless.

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 5:30PM

See my answer to W above for most of the information you lack.
I'll add - gays were in the military all along. Nothing has changed accept recognizing they are there and supremely successful.
We have no soldiers in Libya, at least not combat troops. Uganda same. Humanitarian missions, sure... We have troops in Australia, Japan, Korea, Kuwait, Germany too - what's your point?
You have to be insurance because otherwise you are a worthless irresponsible sucking off the teat of the American people's generosity that pays for your sorry a* when you 're sick or in an accident.
"Moral ... " whatever.
"Choice, Tolerance ... " - again, whatever.
No communication is pointless - you just might make a valid point, as might I. Even when we scream at each other - THAT is what makes America to be America.

SGT Baker (native Coloradoan)| 12.8.11 @ 2:05AM

Air strikes are combat missions, which require combat pilots which means they are combat troops.

Seattlebred| 12.7.11 @ 11:26AM

"It's the demographics, stupid!"

VonMisesJr| 12.7.11 @ 11:57AM

Marxism was a culmination of the Enlightenment philosophers program to reinstate serfdom. Burke wrote in Reflections of the elitest (today's Harvard boys) colloborating with the Nobles and Monarchy (our Congress) to confiscate the wealth of the newly founded free and thriving bourgeoise (small business) and return them to the manor.

Even the stupid people are starting to figure out that serfdon sucks. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, McConnell and McCain are telling all what a great job they are doing, but the peasants are figuring out that working for the Lord of the Manor on pain of being broken on the wheel is not the Utopia they promised.

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 5:31PM

Occupy America!

Anthony| 12.7.11 @ 12:28PM

So the Muslim Marxist is now into his 4th or 5th channeling of other presidents, other than himself. Now it's Teddy Roosevelt, the "rough rider".
The only rough riding Obozo has done in his life has been in those gay bars in Chicago or in the back seat of a car with his Pakistani loverboy.

RCV| 12.7.11 @ 5:21PM

Now that Kenya's been debunked, the lunatic right has to make up even more preposterous lies out of whole cloth.

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 5:36PM

you feel better playing with yourself?

MikeG| 12.7.11 @ 8:17PM

Purpleguy,
Sounds something you are intimately familiar with.

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 9:20PM

Got you interested huh? you want some of this do you mithter?

MikeG| 12.8.11 @ 12:02PM

All the girls say there hardly enough for you, Purple

Franco| 12.7.11 @ 12:36PM

Fools..fools, all of you. Obama will win. Trust me. Even middle-class, educated blacks will vote along racial lines and after all, a vote against the One is a sure sign of being a racist homo-Islamo-whatever0-phobe.

No one can resist the promise of a free lunch.

VonMisesJr| 12.7.11 @ 1:00PM

They can if it is a crap sandwich

Al Adab| 12.7.11 @ 5:19PM

Me a racist Islamo phobe?

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 5:37PM

Keep trying to bury him - it didn't work in 2008 and it won't work now. 300+ accomplishments and he's still going... he's done more for this country in 3 than Bush did for 8, but then, that was easy ... he's beat Reagan too.

beebop2| 12.7.11 @ 6:59PM

I hope what ever it is that you have doesnt develop into a full blown disease. One of you is too many.

beebop2| 12.7.11 @ 7:01PM

You know something? More than half of the people who say they "like" -bama even though they don't like his residency are lying. They dispise him but are afraid of being called racists by people like you. But when then are alone in that polling booth? Buh-bye bonehead.

Crawler| 12.7.11 @ 12:52PM

I agree with Mr. Ferrara: Obama is far worse off in the eyes of voters than Carter ever was.

Ask James Earl Carter what happens to incumbent presidents with sagging economies that lead to public disgust and ire.

January 20th, 2013: The End of an Error

Peter| 12.7.11 @ 1:05PM

O'Bummer should be encouraged to keep up the class-warfare rhetoric and to do so more frequently. Throughout his term whenever he has spoken often about any policy he is promoting support for both the policy and for him have declined. The same is happening now. Plenty of people know, in their hearts and from their own experience, that the middle class is not suffering because taxes are too low or because high income earners aren't "paying their fair share." They know it is due to everything from insufficient education and skills to technology, globalization and a lack of personal responsibility. Few are going to be fooled by the Great Leader's finger pointing and attempts to divide the nation into rich and poor, good and bad, righteous and sinners. A message that ignores this silly, politcally transparent effort and focuses on the idea that a fair playing field is one that provides equal opportunity and rewards hard work, thrift, knowledge and experience, will gain the support of the majority of voters. Calling The One and his cronies socialists, and worse, is just the other side of the coin, creating a negative rather than a positive message. Republicans and conservatives need to reply not with name calling but with a vision of where they would like to take the country that can be easily constrated with the us vs. them ugliness of the pitch now being made by Mr. O.

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 5:38PM

Yes, and he will keep it up.

john werneken| 12.7.11 @ 1:18PM

The CBO replacement is actually a great idea, almost as good as Gingrich/Rubio.

RJ| 12.7.11 @ 1:27PM

Another good article, Peter. Thanks for showing us a patch of blue sky on the horizon. We have been through a bad storm, but if American voters still have common sense, sunshine can be in our future.

weakapaug| 12.7.11 @ 2:29PM

The blue and white collar workers are the makers; the financial industry and overpaid executives are the takers. I'd like to see them create value without an educated, hard-working and productive workforce. The workers keep making; their overlords keep taking. Obama stands for the middle class. This country would be nothing without the middle class. If you want all the power at the top, move to China

DTOM| 12.7.11 @ 2:39PM

You forget the investors. Your collared workers could not do anything with out machines, without raw materials, without trucks and trains and planes to ship it, without factories to do all that stuff in. That is all paid for by investors. The collared people need to remember that they are just a part of the entire wealth creation machine. They they are essential, but so are the managers and the investors.

It is a myth that labor is the most important component. I can far more easily imagine a workerless factory, than I can imagine one without managers or investors. Workers need to create value that machines cannot - otherwise machines will eventually be given the work...

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 4:31PM

"It is a myth that labor is the most important component." - Not according to Teddy Roosevelt, a Republican. ""Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."" and, he was quoting Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican President - where'd you all go wrong?
See: http://teachingamericanhistory.....tprint=501

Al Adab| 12.7.11 @ 5:18PM

Yes, and T. Jefferson wrote, "A wise and frugal government shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned."

There is a reason the Constitution made no provision for a tax on income until the amendment passed to allow it. You might also consider, when discussing earmarks and pork spending that the major debate in the early 19th century was about what they called "internal improvement" that is federally funded projects within the states. Madison though the idea a good one, but stated clearly that the Constitution would need to be changed to allow for it. Of course as we now know, such federal spending was a bad idea.

BTW T. Roosevelt represented the "progressive" movement and broke with the republicans over those policies. Nonetheless, you are correct in so far as labor creates wealth and should be rewarded not penalized through taxation for its efforts. The definition of labor is not exclusive to union attempts to monopolize the workforce.

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 5:45PM

Oh, my ...
"Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometric progression as they rise" , author, Thomas Jefferson.
Moreover, Madison did not get his way and the Constitution wasn't changed every time it was necessary - the Interstate Highway System is unconstitutional in his view, so is the Transcontinental Railroad.
The Founders were not fallible, but pretty smart.
Who said anything about unions?
The working people in this country need to share in the wealth of the country as much as the capitalists - and they have not been for 30 years and it needs to change. The Occupy movement represents this feeling - 99% vs 1% will win every time!

W| 12.7.11 @ 10:20PM

Can you define what you mean by "working people?"

Mike 3/505| 1.4.12 @ 11:53PM

"...Interstate Highway System is unconstitutional ..."

That's why it is named "the DEFENSE and Transportation interstate system," else it would be unconstitutional for the Feds to fund it.

Jeff | 12.7.11 @ 2:50PM

I enjoyed reading this and the comments, but it seems to be a trend going around in the media. Lets get some talks going on what we need, rather then what we are going to do to prepare ourselves for what may happen. That is a given. But lets talk about ideals, characteristics of people like in my opinion ones of a "Steve Jobs" that need to be in taken serious by leaders trying to run OUR country. We are the president's customers, and unfortunately Obama has his own objectives, and could care less in my opinion. When it comes to campaigning he has a great team of brand builders, marketers (the best in my opinion) who are clever and know what we want to hear. Obama is great at speaking and convincing people he has all the answers, "hope", "change" and all the other tag lines that won him the opportunity 3 years ago to back those strong words up. Unfortunately it's present time, and hopefully people wake up. Hopefully one of the other candidates will read Steve's biography and quick and get on track. www.obamaandsteve.com Join our conversation, and please share!

Sterling Abernathy| 12.7.11 @ 3:01PM

Oh well folks, if Obonehead wins his second term it's the equivalent of a "second flush" and with that, what he didn't accomplish with the 1st term, a second term flush of the economy will do the trick and ubiquitously and disgustingly accompanied with his "cutesy creep smile"!!!

Bluntly, the guy can't be allowed to win a second term!!!

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 5:46PM

You liked the Bush years? Seriously? Are you ill?

beebop2| 12.7.11 @ 6:56PM

I dont know. You're still here.

Purpleguy| 12.7.11 @ 9:21PM

Duh?

idalily| 12.8.11 @ 5:27PM

You think 9.5% unemployment is better than 4%? Seriously? Are you ill?

Kingofthenet| 12.7.11 @ 3:29PM

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The hemorrhaging of American jobs accelerated at a record pace at the end of 2008, bringing the year's total job losses to 2.6 million or the highest level in more than six decades.

A sobering U.S. Labor Department jobs report Friday showed the economy lost 524,000 jobs in December and 1.9 million in the year's final four months, after the credit crisis began in September.

What was the Job loss LAST month?

Sterling Abernathy| 12.7.11 @ 3:48PM

Jimmy-- the books were cooked, with some forthcoming adjustments to the numbers that will inevitably come!!!

Goldwaterite| 12.7.11 @ 3:39PM

The wealth redistribution/class warfare game is the only one the Left knows in spite of all the evidence for its historical failures. They assume if we were dumb enough to buy "hope & change" in 2008, we'll buy their economic flotsam this time also.
“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there ARE other views.”
---William F. Buckley, Jr.

Mike 3/505| 1.4.12 @ 11:54PM

And, "...they know so much, that just isn't so."

-Ronald Reagan-

The Knife| 12.7.11 @ 3:41PM

Progressivism in Spain has lead to the inevitable rationing of toilet paper. Another liberal promise kept. It is coming this way if we don't put stop to these parasites.

shipley130| 12.7.11 @ 3:52PM

I think the makers just need to stop giving to the takers. Let the government truly handle the takers and see where that leads.

Slacker| 12.7.11 @ 4:47PM

Reading these comments, I’m inclined to think it’s probably too late to save the country and perhaps there isn’t much left worth saving anyway.

A majority of our fellow citizens elected an evil son of a bitch Marist as their President. Even as he openly abandons the white working class, his supporters assert he is a defender of the middle class. Wrap your heads around that.

We have a subset of the population so blinded by progressive hope they are unable to discern catastrophic failure. These folks tell me I have a social responsibility but, in fact they hate my guts. I give up.

Obama will eventually go away but his supporters will fight on. Even if they don't realize it, in their hearts they hate people like me. That is the Obama legacy. Me learing a good subset of the population actually hates people like me.

Note: I have called our president and son of a bitch and a bastard. I mean neither term in the derogatory sense. Terminology is strange when dealing with the illegitimate prodigy of an African Muslim polygamist and a disturbed hippie chick.

Dr. X| 12.7.11 @ 5:36PM

I agree with Ferrara's description of the new Democratic base, but I'm not nearly as sanguine as he is that Obama can't get re-elected on it. Abandoning the white working class makes sense for Democrats, because so many of those jobs have been oursourced to China. So the Dem strategy is to milk those who get rich in the global economy and put the former white working class on welfare and disability. You need look no further than the insane Social Security tax cut, which Obama wants to finance on the backs of "millionaires" to see the strategy at work.

I'm disgusted by the whole thing but frankly I don't have enough faith in the obese, tattooed, "disabled" American voter to think that he actually wants to work for a living rather than vote for Obama.

Trish| 12.7.11 @ 10:02PM

Not sanguine here either.

valleyforge| 12.7.11 @ 5:55PM

Another reason income appears more skewed to the top 1%: CBO measures Adjusted Gross Income which excludes "above-the-line" deductions like health insurance contributions, 401k contributions, IRA contributions, teacher expenses and more, all of which disproportionately benefit lower income taxpayers as a share of non-adjusted income. so not only are the 1% reporting more of their income on the 1040 but everyone else is reporting less of their income.

Indy| 12.7.11 @ 7:16PM

From the tax prof blog an interesting tidbit about the CBO data, they stopped at 2007!!! check out the link where you can see the graph to see what happens when all years are included.

"A recent report from the Congressional Budget Office says, "The share of income received by the top 1% grew from about 8% in 1979 to over 17% in 2007."

This news caused quite a stir, feeding the left's obsession with inequality. Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson, for example, said this "jaw-dropping report" shows "why the Occupy Wall Street protests have struck such a nerve." The New York Times opined that the study is "likely to have a major impact on the debate in Congress over the fairness of federal tax and spending policies."

But here's a question: Why did the report stop at 2007? The CBO didn't say, although its report briefly acknowledged—in a footnote—that "high income taxpayers had especially large declines in adjusted gross income between 2007 and 2009."

No kidding. Once these two years are brought into the picture, the share of after-tax income of the top 1% by my estimate fell to 11.3% in 2009 from the 17.3% that the CBO reported for 2007.

The larger truth is that recessions always destroy wealth and small business incomes at the top. Perhaps those who obsess over income shares should welcome stock market crashes and deep recessions because such calamities invariably reduce "inequality." Of course, the same recessions also increase poverty and unemployment.

The incomes that top earners report to the IRS have long been tightly linked to the ups and downs of capital gains. ..."
http://taxprof.typepad.com/tax.....rates.html

Trish| 12.7.11 @ 10:00PM

Bingo. Its time to grow a pair against these ruthless thugs.

beebop2| 12.7.11 @ 6:53PM

I could not possibly have more contempt for him than I presently do. I feel very sorry for Malia and Sasha who are being raised up by this sorry excuse for a man much less a world leader.

TSIndiana| 12.7.11 @ 7:01PM

Having 30 billionaires as contributors to the Obama campain and turning homeland security loose on Occupy protesters...speaks volumes. Forget "change" unless you vote Ron Paul in the primary and general elections. The only change Obama is going to give is 50% unemployment, massive, massive debt and a new war with Iran.

Ken (Old Texican)| 12.7.11 @ 7:02PM

I am really glad the idiots post here. It gives us an insight into their non-thinkng.

Who Knows?| 12.7.11 @ 7:04PM

It's about time someone with at least part of a barrrel of ink started making the "takers verses makers" phrase popular, and, of course, regularly and truthfully applying it to the Democrats.

I, and I'm sure lots of other people, long ago began saying just that---the takers are the liberals, by and large, and the makers are the conservatives, mostly.

It's also way past the time to be "nice".

Another of my longtime realizations about leftists, or Democrats in America, is that they are either fools or knaves.

I'd have to say that the leaders MUST BE knaves, because no fool could manage to even become a leader. So, despite the fact that it'd be suicidal for a Mitt Romney, say, to write or speak about Obama this way, A LOT OF US CAN!

A majority of Dems are, of course, fools, in that they aren't aware that their votes for knaves like Obama hurt them, in actuality.

And, I know---there are a lot of them, like this grossly obese, smoker, "average guy" at the YMCA I belong to, who exulted when Oregon elected a Democratic senator a few years ago, who thinks "his guy" will bring bennies his way.

In fact, though, anybody with any self respect would NOT be happy on the dole! So, finding ways to help them be self sufficient, to the max---see welfare reform---is truly best for THEM, and the taxpayers, or MAKERS.

Any who---the next leap in consciousness, perhaps equivalent to peeling off an onion-skin-like layer of obfuscating LIES, could entail just expanding on the TAKERS verses MAKERS truism, in myriad forms---and, the HELL with being politically correct!

Reading what Christie had to say about Obama might be understood to be a good sign of how this truth-telling is already happening.

The king is wearing no clothes!

Obama is naked---and, the hell with the NYT et al as they play the wizard of Oz: their fooling days are OVER!

Rick| 12.7.11 @ 7:10PM

Obamas' polices do to work its just headwins. He will NOT loose! Your a bigget and a rasist!

Trish| 12.7.11 @ 9:58PM

Yes, he is sailing into headwinds, and still the sails are full of holes. I am sure you meant headwinds, correct?

Trish| 12.7.11 @ 9:55PM

'And they shall speak of good as evil, and evil as good'. St. Paul sure had a way with prophetic words.

POST American| 12.7.11 @ 10:23PM

"Jefferson himself continually warned
that when you see the government changing
hands, yet the AGENDA (Globalism/
police state SIR-veil-ANTS
/ EUGENICS etc.) remaining
X-act-ly the same, you'll KNOW you ARE
under total TYRANNY."

While, even now, we learn:

"GOV'T Active-ating FEMA CAMPS Nationwide"
(INFOWARS bulletin hours ago)

---------------HUAC/ NUREMBERG 2012------------

----------OUR LIVES NOW DEPEND ON IT---------

--------------------------------------FOR REAL-----------

e pearse| 12.7.11 @ 10:46PM

There are a series of Ads that have the exact theme of "takers vs makers" and "Class Warfare" at www.robbingamerica.com

I think that they are tremendously powerful and will like to see them in more places.

Juan Jose Morales-Castillo | 12.7.11 @ 11:20PM

I moved to Florida on 3 June 1980 to finish my education and start my career as a painter. The USA of today is but a shadow of what it was 31 years ago, and a very great danger to the integrity of my Puerto Rico.
My prayer is to get out of the welfare trap in which I am because I'm unemployed, to see the ouster of the Obombast kleptocracy, and to witness the liberation of my Puerto Rico.

Randy131| 12.8.11 @ 3:49PM

A true fact that most people do not know or realize, is that today we have only 25% of the Industry we had in the 1960's, left in our country, which means 75% of that Industry left the USA shores for foreign soil. Why did this happen? For two reasons only; first, Unions and their coercive demands; second, the federal government, joining the greed of the Unions, by over taxing and excessive regulations, that increased the cost of products so high they were no longer financially competitive globally, which all businesses must compete in todays market. Today, private sector Union membership is down to 8% of the workforce, because they helped drive away Industry through their greedy demands, while public employee Unions completely dominate our governments, because the Democrats give them their every demand, in return for their campaign donations and support at the ballot box, while state and local governments go broke, and the federal government keeps printing and borrowing money to meet the Union's demands, while the country goes broke, but government Union employees make double the salary and benefits as their private sector same type of job employees, that pay their salaries through their taxes. And why is it Obama believes, as he professed in his last speech, that limited government and free markets never worked, at least not after he changed them to increase big government, and provide money to only those in the market that advances Obama's wants and needs, making it no longer a free market, but one the government chooses and runs through tax payer's borrowed money, for which each of his years as President, he has created the largest deficits in our history, and now has the government on the verge of passing the private sector in use of GDP moneys. It can't go on for much longer, so which will come first, Obama's collapse of the US economy, or the next national election for a new President?

threeleafclover| 12.9.11 @ 2:08AM

If I had a ream of paper in my cop y machine, I might print out all of the above and compare it to what you are all frothed up about mid -July. "+Blacks won't vote for Newt or Mitt." Blacks will vote for Obama, no matter. . ." How about the possibility that the bloom is off the Obama rose and they will not be so hot to vote e for the first Black President.? Or anyone else? It's called voter apathy. Consider that poor black woman in Detroit, still waitin' for Obama to give her some money out of his stash? How about all the single moms who now think of him as the guy who ran off and left them pregnant? How about all the 20 09 and 20 10 college graduates who didn' t find a job waiting for them upon graduation? I have 24 year old and an 18 year old grandsons .The 24 year old graduated two years ago and has been working at 2 jobs ever since - is finally, af ter a long search, getting one job that p ays $65,000 a year. He does not thank Obama for this good fortune. The 18 year old is a freshman in college and whoever is president when he graduates, he will not be looking to him to find him a job.
I am getting a little tired of hearing about the RICH and the MIDDLE CLASS. Isn't it odd that we have no LOW CLASS ? We call them " those living in poverty", as thou gh somebody put them there and said, "You stay there." .If they have been there through three generations, it is safe to call them Low Class. Too demeaning to call them Low Class. OK to call me Middle Class. In fact, I guess we have no HIGH CLASS - They are just "the rich", people to be envied and despised .

I will be waiting for midsummer when things have shaken out further and all you nom de blogs have a new burr under your saddles.

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