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Her Man Cain’t
It’s over except for the music.
Good news for the Cain campaign, along the lines of the old joke about the millionaire heading into a big meeting when his wife calls to say she has good news and bad news.
“Honey,” he says breathlessly. “I have no time to talk before the meeting. Please just give me the good news real fast now and we can discuss the bad news afterwards.”
“Okay, dear,” she replies. “The good news is that the air bags on your new Ferrari work really well.”
The good news for the Cain campaign is the candidate says he is ready to move full speed ahead as soon as he gets done speaking to his wife this weekend. As of right now, he claims no one has harassed the opposite sex in his family, but one doubts that will still be the case by next Monday. His wife, Gloria, may overlook his thirteen-year affair, but the fact that he went to the Tyson-Holyfield fight in Las Vegas without her is unforgivable.
One need not be a great political handicapper to predict that the Cain bid is no longer able. Having to go home to sing “Gloria” is not a thrilling prospect.
Gloria, don’t you think you’re falling?
If everybody wants you
Why isn’t anybody calling?
You don’t have to answer
Leave ‘em hanging on the line
Calling… Gloria!Gloria, I think they got your number
I think they got the alias
That you’ve been living under
But you really don’t remember
Was it something that they said?
Or the voices in your head?
Calling… Gloria!
The Cain saga is a sad one in many ways. A capable and successful man, he consistently confounded the low expectations of others. When he began at Godfather’s Pizza, they assigned him the bad neighborhoods of Philadelphia as his region of responsibility. It was a dead area for them and consigning him to that quicksand showed how little regarded he was; he was an affirmative-action token diversity hire and he could have treaded water in that sinecure for years.
Instead he turned the region around and got promoted to main office, which was slipping itself. He turned the whole company around and eventually became a partner in a syndicate which ran it profitably. The recognition he gained there catapulted him to the head of the National Restaurant Association and eventually he became a member of the Federal Reserve.
All of that history made him an appealing alternative to the political class, and when Republican primary voters soured on Perry (too unfocused) and Bachmann (too focused) and Paul (too radical) and Santorum (too holy) and Huntsman (no personality) and Gingrich (too much personality), it suddenly came down to Romney and Cain. Perhaps Cain was on the everyman’s wavelength, folks thought as they listened to his broadcasts, but when they lacked high fidelity, people tuned out.
The question which leaves some pundits scratching their heads is why Newt should be picking up Herman’s steam. After all, Newt has been known to adulterate his own views from time to time. If Cain has to be Mister Clean, why does Gingrich suddenly have stigmata instead of stigma?
The answer, I believe, is that voters will spot a candidate one of two flaws but not both. He can be inexperienced in the area of politics if he can show us irreproachable results on all the other battlefields of life. Or he can be a bit of a creep if he is strong on his policy positions and capable of building support. We will not give anyone a twofer: no inexperienced cads need apply. We could have numbed ourselves to the nouveau Cain but not to the man who plants his sins at the Holyfield.
In general, Mister Cain is a fine man, with talent and ability and sincerity. He spoke beautifully to The American Spectator dinner in November and we were fortunate to have had him in the mix. The true person is much larger than the sum of his weakest episodes, but the scrutiny of our politics is relentless. His candidacy may still provide a model for a future outsider, if they have his upsides without his downsides.
And as for what Gloria will say this weekend, I think we can safely predict that Herman will seek transit on Monday.
About the Author
Jay D. Homnick, commentator and humorist, is a frequent contributor to The American Spectator. He also writes for Human Events. Here he speaks at the Rally for Religious Freedom in Miami on June 8, 2012.
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Cosmo| 12.2.11 @ 6:14AM
Well done, Jay.
Jack in Wi| 12.2.11 @ 6:56AM
I predicted Herman Cain was done quite a few weeks ago. I predicted that Rick Perry was done the day he announced. I also predict that the Newtster will demolish himself shortly and be gone and done with Cain and the rest. That leaves the only 2 guys who have ever had a chance at beating Obama, Ron Paul and Mitt Romney. Romney represents the Eastern and countryclub elites which have long run the country and Republican party. Ron Paul represents the majority of Americans who want an end to these wars and to focus on America First. He also represents the insurgent libertarian wing of the party which is the only one getting any new people in the party. Both men have the best on the ground organizations and some serious money.
There is no way this party has a chance to be re-united to beat Obama, until the party has a honest and thorough debate between these factions. The people on the stage should be Ron Paul and Mitt Romney. By all means throw in Newt for some comic relief.
I think I have a pretty good record as a forecaster. I predicted in the last cycle that Hillary would never get the nomination. I predicted that Obama would be elected President from almost the moment he annouced his candidicy I also predicted that Rudy Guilianni and Fred Thompson would never come close to it either. I certainly got fooled by McCain. But hell one can't be right all the time.
chuck| 12.2.11 @ 7:54AM
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Turning my back to Jack
A.J.| 12.2.11 @ 8:49AM
Well, lets see: I predicted, I predicted, I also predicted, I think, I have, I predicted, I predicted, I also predicted. Heres one more for you great self-absorbed all knowing sage, Mr. paul isn't going to become President of the US. How does that one grab you?
chuck| 12.2.11 @ 9:04AM
AJ,
Please don't respond to the all- knowing, all-seeing, he-who-must-be-ignored. It only encourages him. Better just to turn your back on him.
The campaign to shun the "know-it-all" continues!
A.J.| 12.2.11 @ 9:23AM
True Dat!
Drunken Sailor| 12.2.11 @ 10:38AM
Dang it. I was hoping Jack's all seeing crystal ball/Snowglobe could help me with the lottery numbers.
Tina B| 12.2.11 @ 9:01AM
me too. . .scroll down...
Jack in Wi| 12.2.11 @ 11:26AM
Chuck thanks for not responding. I predicted Cain was done weeks ago because I started to listen to him. 999 was nothing but a gimmic thought of by his old friends at the Federal Reserve. He also showed an ignorance otf basic History, Geography, Economic policy, Foreign Policy and Monetary policy. My prediction had nothing to do with his extramarital sex life. I also said that Perry was dead in the water at the begining of his campaign. He is even dumber then Cain on general knowledge and is a horrible debater. I could tell all that by listening to a few moments of his announcement speech. Perry reminds me of my old friend and drinking buddy Tommy Thompson, a good local politician but won't travel well beyond his states borders.
A.J.| 12.2.11 @ 11:43AM
"I predicted, I started, my prediction, I also said, I could tell, ...............I mean this guy Jack dude is Jean Dixon and Edgar Cayce all rolled into one. Perry reminds ME of my old friend and drinking buddy, Ronald Reagan!
Tina B| 12.2.11 @ 5:53PM
weren't you once married to. . . uh. . . Morgan Fairchild?
A.J.| 12.2.11 @ 12:17PM
"I predicted Cain was done weeks ago" and then "My prediction had nothing to do with his extramarital sex life" then we can assume that your prediction had nothing to do with reality either because his charactor issues are what drove him down and out in the end, you bloviating dumbass.
chuck| 12.2.11 @ 5:01PM
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Please don't feed the trolls.
A.J.| 12.2.11 @ 5:40PM
C'mon chuck, you didn't say anything about not poking a stick into the window of the lunatic asylum!
Quartermaster| 12.2.11 @ 6:28PM
AJ and Chuck are the trolls here, in case no one noticed. Clearly, the two of you are unable to deal with either Clint or Jack on their own ground. That's why you mount a pretense and smear both. Both of you are mere poseurs who are nothing but echo chambers.
I have trouble with Paul, and I don't think he will be the nominee. I am compeller to say that he is teh only one that is talking about what must be done to FedGov to get it back in line. Not one of the others are doing so.
It's a very sad time for the country that we have the same ol', same ol' among the GOP candidates. The choice between the insiders vs Paul is truly disgusting as is the behavior you two village idiots.
chuck| 12.3.11 @ 8:25AM
QM,
Jack has been posting the same Ron Paul soundbites for months now. No matter what the topic, it's "Ron Paul or ruin", or Ron and Rand for peace and prosperity". He claimed the one day to possess more knowledge of history and current events than anyone else here, including the editors. He is an insufferable blowhard.
Jack is also a jew-hater that spews out some of the most anti-Semitic filth that I've read here. Then he tries to mask it by telling us about all his Jewish friends who absolutely agree with him, because he knows more about history and current events than anyone else. Then he ends his post with "shalom", or a quote from the Bible.
After engaging him for months, and calling him out every time he closed with "shalom", I figured it would be more fun to just ignore him, so I started my campaign to shun him. Just my way to get people to ignore Jack, and maybe have a little fun while I'm at it.
Jack in Wi| 12.3.11 @ 5:13PM
I write my own stuff, off the top of my head. Antisemitism around here is what a Zionist yells everytime someone tells the truth, and he can't handle it. L Chaim and Shalom are great Jewish phrases. Life and Peace are certainly better then war and death which seems to be the message of most rabid Zionists around here. Shalom. Blessed are the peacemakers.
Oh! By the way Chuckie I want to thank you again for shunning me. Shalom.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:28PM
What ground? Self-contradiction? Anti-semitism?
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 10:46AM
How about Ron Paul? Let's see, he rails against earmarks, right? Well, explain how he puts earmarks into bills, goes out and rails against the bill because of earmarks, goes and votes "no" on the bill, and still gets his earmark like everyone else.
Ron Paul is a fraud. He wants to have his cake and eat it too. He can simultaneously vote against bills that contain his own earmarks because he knows they will pass, then pose as the only person that is up there fighting the mess.
Talk about fraudsters, Ron Paul is THAT GUY.
Jack in Wi| 12.2.11 @ 11:32AM
The earmark issue has been gone over many times and you are mistating the facts as usual. Ron Paul has voted against every bill that has earmarks. But he fights to get his constituients money back for them from these bills, after they are passed. Because otherwise the President would have the power to allocate this money without in put from the local congressman. He would not be doing his job if he didn't try to get some of that tax money back to his district.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 12:25PM
Enabler..
chuck| 12.2.11 @ 5:02PM
Phil,
I know your gut reaction is to respond to he-who must-be-shunned. But it really is much more fun to ignore him.
Anthony M| 12.2.11 @ 9:42PM
Hey Chuck, are you that kid on the playground who gets a lift by telling all the other kids who they shouldn't play with? Grow up.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 3:08PM
Nice.
Jack in Wi| 12.3.11 @ 5:16PM
Thank you chuckie again for ignoring me. Shalom. Peace, Pace, Salem Aleccim.
jagscl | 12.3.11 @ 4:51AM
Sorry to interrupt the dialog, but I want to be sure that I follow the discussion on earmarks. First, Ron Paul is opposed to such pork barrel spending, but nonetheless adds earmarks to insure the appropriation, if passed, allows his constituents to share in the spoils. I understand this, but need help on the next part of the rationale for adding earmarks. As I understand it, Ron Paul wants the earmarks in so the President cannot then simply distribute the funds in the appropriation as the President sees fit. First, if the money for the earmarks is not appropriated in the first place because no earmarks are attached tothe appropriation, how can the President distribute it? Additionally, to my knowledge (absent a rogue regime like Obama's), there are authorization acts tied to each appropriation which sets limits and guidlines on what can or cannot be done with the money. Unless you have a President like Obama who believes himself to be an absolute monarch, the Executive branch is confined within these limits.
Grzmlyk| 12.2.11 @ 3:03PM
Gee, Phil, you've done it now.
Clint is busily making a voodoo doll likeness of you. Pretty soon, you'll feel the wrath of cukoo-for-coco-puffs clint as he sticks pins in the doll and tosses it into his latest arson project.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 4:41PM
LOL
A.J.| 12.2.11 @ 5:41PM
Double LOL!
Clint| 12.2.11 @ 9:08PM
Bad Loser Grizzlelicker Is The Disgruntled Troll ,Who Badmouths Other Candidates & Their Supporters, Because He Thinks Little Ricky Santorum Is The Best Candidate.
Raving Rabbi| 12.2.11 @ 3:04PM
If I had ears like Ron Paul, every morning the top of my pillow would have earmarks on it, and under my pillow would be earmarks from the Tooth Fairy.
Otherwise, how would my constituents know to vote for me to represent them so I could fight earmarks?
Almost sounds like another Transformational Messianic anti-politics-as-usual non-Politician who graduated from $60K for Rev. Wright & 80K for Min. Farrakhan to $538B for sun-worshipping money bundlers & humongous banks to pro-tax-raising Oracles. This will help him raise a billion dollars to fight politics-as-usual, you betcha...
Solo| 12.2.11 @ 11:20AM
If that assessment of the two remaining candidates were remotely true, Ron Paul would be leading in the polls.
He's in single digits, nationally.
Just face it; If it comes down to total elimination and there remains just RuPaul and Romney, it effectively means that the nomination will go to Romney.
After all...the RuPaul outlasted most others to the bitter end in the last Primary cycle. Still ended up with less than 5%, nationally. That doesn't even rate "honorable mention".
He'll do a bit better this year, I think. He's tended to tone down his rhetoric this time around--although I notice that his sycophants have yet to follow suit.
Jack in Wi| 12.2.11 @ 11:37AM
Lets see Gingrich, Perry, Guilanni, Romney, Cain, Thompson, Hillary Clinton, George Bush Senior in 1980 etc all were leading in the polls and the presumed nominee. Bush is the only one who was ever elected or will be elected, of this gang. He only got the job because of Reagan. He could not be elected on his own in 1992.
Wayne| 12.3.11 @ 1:05PM
I predict Ron Paul is too old.
Zak Klemmer| 12.3.11 @ 1:28PM
Jack! I voted for Ron Paul in 1988 not Bush41. I voted for Paul in the primary last time not McCain.
Ron Paul is the only real conservative, the only real reformer. Bachmann has potential we shall see what the future holds. I think that anyone except a convicted felon will beat Obama in 2012.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 3:12PM
He is not a conservative, he is a libertarian. Heck, I learned this from reading libertarian literature. It convinced me he was not one.
Question for Doc Paul: Is Social Security constitutional? If not, please explain how enforcing it does not violate your oath of office?
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 3:22PM
I can't type.
It convinced me I was not one.
Zak Klemmer| 12.3.11 @ 7:22PM
To the old right, libertarianism and conservatives are a nearly interchangeable term; "true liberal" would be more accurate. The Neo-cons abandoned the traditional American view of limited government when they decided that "Big Government" could advance their perverted world view.
Margie| 12.3.11 @ 7:45PM
I always hear this line of balderdash, yet Libertarians are the ones who in actuality want the same things the Left does.:
Legalized drugs, prostitution, abortion, Homo "Marriage", open borders, and are anti-war.
Under cover of being for "small government" and always playing the self-righteous "Constitutional" Conservative, (only they will do things right)~ they really want a free for all Leftist society in which they can hide under their beds calling real Conservatives "scared" of the Enemy.
Hypocrisy doesn't even begin to tell their story!
chuck| 12.4.11 @ 8:53AM
Right, isn't it amazing how much of the libertarian agenda matches the left. Gay marriage, drugs, and especially the anti-war stance. Then they call themselves the "true conservatives".
I think they want all the rights, without any of the responsibilities. What they are is anarchists, not conservatives or libertarians.
Clint is the perfect example, I could just picture him fire-bombing a synagogue.
Margie| 12.4.11 @ 2:11PM
The ends justifies the means, too with these people.
They are destroyers.
Margie| 12.4.11 @ 2:12PM
When Clint says, "We step on your face"~ he means it.
Zak Klemmer| 12.5.11 @ 10:48AM
Margie: How is Neo-conservatism with its big spending, grandiose pyramid building programs working for you? Bush41, 43 failed as conservatives and as Presidents. The beltway politicians have spent us into bankruptcy. Yet you call Dr. Ron Paul names- do you really think that Ron Paul is anti-American? Really? What balderdash!
Margie| 12.5.11 @ 3:08PM
You call Neo-conservatism to those of us who DESPISE the Beltway Establishment.
You aren't fooling anyone.
And yes: Ron Paul IS anti-American. Anyone who blames America for the terrorists being terrorists is anti-American.
Put that in your crack pipe and toke it, dude.
Mike Rogers | 12.2.11 @ 8:55AM
BS - Cain may have troubles, but this doesn't come close to journalism.
loulou| 12.2.11 @ 10:13AM
I agree.
Homnick just can't help celebrating.
Grzmlyk| 12.2.11 @ 3:09PM
I'm not sure this was intended to be journalism. It's an opnion piece.
Cain is done. Stick a fork in him.
I think it's a goddamned outrage that mere accusations - without a shred of proof - have done him in. That is shameful - now, any Republican whom liberals want to shoot down will be easy pickings. Just throw as many accusations as it takes by questionable scumbags at the candidate, and BAM. End of candidacy.
However, Cain deserves to be out of the race because he doesn't know a damn thing about policy, and he doesn't seem to care that he doesn't know a damn thing about policy.
A man without a world view has no business being president.
idalily| 12.2.11 @ 4:05PM
THIS
eh?| 12.2.11 @ 4:10PM
G., he has a world view. And it is much better than yours.
Maybe you should be reading his website versus waiting on the MSM to spoon feed you.
Clint| 12.2.11 @ 9:11PM
So's Your Mancrush, Ricky Santorum, Grizzlelicker.
The Tea Party Steps On The Disgruntled Santorum Cheerleader.
Zak Klemmer| 12.3.11 @ 1:31PM
Obama has a world view and Bill Ayres had it first.
http://conservative-ideals.org/WilliamAyres.aspx
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 3:27PM
I like his world view, and trust him with it better than almost anyone. (And I live abroad.) It is silly to try to articulate detailed policies without the information the President has at his disposal. Look at Obama, how he found out what the world is really like and ended up OKing most of W's policies.
Although I prefer Bachman or Santorum. I don't see how Newt could survive the general election, with his baggage.
TrueBlue| 12.3.11 @ 4:19PM
I agree with you Grzmlyk as far as it being an outrage that accusations (by women who have a track record of making such accusations to boot) have done Cain in. The libs are all watching this and licking their chops because neither Romney nor Newt are likely to beat out Obama.
Ron Paul, regardless of what his followers believe, will not be President, let alone the Republican nominee. If it wasn't for his foreign policy I'd vote for him to be honest, but his views just aren't realistic (not that any President after Reagan has really handled foreign policy all that well). The stand back and let other people deal with their problems while we remain neutral outlook just makes every other country look at us exactly as they do now with Obama. It becomes a matter of WHEN we will stab them in the back or let them drop like a bad habit, rather than IF we will do it. We used to be reliable allies, now we're so entrenched with governments and businesses in so many other countries that nobody knows whose side we are actually on, and in the world of foreign politics, your side is important.
I don't believe Cain needs to be out of the race just because he doesn't know enough about foreign policy though. He actually has the right attitude; you wait on forming an opinion on a subject until you have all, or as many, facts as possible. He hasn't tried to claim he knows everything on the subject because let's face it, the public DOES NOT have anything close to all of the facts regarding other countries and their relationship with us.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 3:24PM
Yes.
Also, in the current climate, who does the honorable thing and resigns is treated as convicted. ALL resignations are automatically "in disgrace". This is Not a Good Thing.
Alan Brooks| 12.2.11 @ 1:18PM
It's the end of the line
there can be no denyin'
it's all over but the cryin'
honey it's the end of the line.
AhiaGuy| 12.3.11 @ 4:16PM
Mr. Brooks is secretly disappointed since he will be unable to express his racist attitudes until the next conservative black man comes along.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:31PM
I don't understand. Don't these trolls have a life?
Skippy| 12.2.11 @ 8:50PM
Thank you Jay!
"seek transit" indeed.
Yer killin' me!!
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 3:13PM
I don't undersatnd this at all. He actually believes those idiotic charges?
John786| 12.2.11 @ 6:28AM
If infidelity was a criterion would anybody be left. People's private lives are just that private. Herman should stay in and be judged by the voters on his policies. I'm not a fan.... But at least he has a personality compared to the robotic rommney.
Vern Crisler| 12.2.11 @ 9:31AM
Unfortunately, Cain can't keep up with Mitt or Newt or Ron Paul on the details of policy. That's why he began to slide in the polls; he just seemed too much of a lightweight compared to these guys. Maybe if his only competition was Rick Perry, and he looked smarter than Perry? But that isn't saying much. Cain for VP, if he can study policy issues in more detail. Newt's the best choice now, unless Gloria Allred comes out with another financially troubled bimbo to claim Newt sexually harrassed her.
canuckistani| 12.2.11 @ 12:20PM
Unfortunately, the wacko fringe controls the discourse in the GOP. So something as irrelevant as the man's bed manners can derail a campaign. His spectacular looseness with facts and a clear inability to pivot onto a plausible defense are his real shortcomings.
Once the fringe abandons the projection of godliness onto their candidates, we may yet see a true nominee with transformitive skills. Until then, we get Newtie and Willard and Rand's dad.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 3:17PM
Ah, yes, let's let a Leftist tell the Republicans how to pick candidates. That worked REAL well for us last time.
It was never considers irrelevent in the history of the US. I bet the Conservative governement in Canada drives you crazy, so you have to try to find a different country to mess up. :-)
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 3:18PM
Newt's main problem is his personal life. Know how Obama became a Senator?
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 3:14PM
Proper studies (Ann Coulter goes over this a great deal) shows there is relatively infidelity in the U.S. But I don't think the evidence against Cain holds water.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 3:17PM
Relatively little
vb| 12.2.11 @ 6:42AM
The sad part of all this is that Cain could have made a real contribution to explaining how tax and regulatory policies hurt people. He made a start, but now his message will be largely forgotten. I wish he hadn't aimed quite so high, but instead tried for a position in Commerce, where he would have learned a bit more about international trade and foreign policy.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 10:48AM
Its all part of the master plan..
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:32PM
Hopefully Commerce will be eliminated.
Michael Tomlinson| 12.2.11 @ 6:44AM
Sadly, it isn't his total ignorance on major and minor issues, flip flopping, his punitive tax raising scheme or his dishonesty on postions that's doomed his campaign, but this sleaze. It is scary to think so many people were not only ready, but eager to vote for a totally incompetent candidate like Herman Cain. You would think they'd have learned after Obama.
Mike Hawk| 12.2.11 @ 6:49AM
If Herman Cain can suffer a political hit andhas to drop out by accusation with no sustance, then every one of the rest had better be prepared for the same. We have cast not a single ballot yet. This is Alynski politics and I'm sure it's roots are in the WH. Any of you who call yourself Republicans had better sober up. Worse is to come. If we are going to let our candidates be politically disemboweled and be spectators, we all lose. Obama is the opponent, not our own people.
Tina B| 12.2.11 @ 9:08AM
You are exactly correct, Hawk, and if Cain is running just to right that wrong, more power to him. He risked destroying his rep to unseat the socialist liar running this country, and I will always respect him for that. We are all sinners, and I formost among them, along with Paul. (That's Paul who once was Saul, not the politician family)
PolishKnight| 12.2.11 @ 10:00AM
Cain's tragedy is that he revealed poor political skills. EVERYONE knows the left will throw dirt at Republican candidates because in their view, the only fair election is one where only their candidates are running. When the first ho' eruptions occurred, he should have been prepared.
Instead, he reacted like Clarence Thomas with indignation. That certainly was smarter than an apology (they would have taken him down for that) but he should have simply said that for legal reasons, he isn't allowed to comment but didn't do anything "wrong."
As more ho' eruptions continued, he could have simply said the truth that if they take him down for these leftist circus tricks, then no candidate will be able to run in the future.
The left has seen that this works in their playbook and they're going to use it again on Gingrich or perhaps even Romney.
Louis Jenkins| 12.2.11 @ 9:24AM
Mike Hawk:
You are 100% correct. Let's see- allowing immigrants to stay or womanizing? Which is going to kill our way of life? National Health Care vs freedom of choice? Before a single ballot is cast there will be no one left standing. And who will win? Obama.
Drunken Sailor| 12.2.11 @ 10:40AM
Mike,
I'm with you on this and the roots may be in the WH but I'm willing to bet the man spreading the fertilizer resides in Chicago.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 10:51AM
The Conservatives will always have a problem because we don't play by the same rules. The left has no problem with character assasination as long as the ends justify the means. Conservatives hold themselves above this stuff.
Its kind of like street fighting. Conservatives are the people who refuse to fight with anything but their fists. The left is weilding bricks and baseball bats and anything they can find. Destined to lose.
max_kain| 12.2.11 @ 2:18PM
You're right Mike. This is Alinski, this is also the Chicago way. Herman Cain is a black man that left the Democrat plantation and that is, to the Left, unforgivable. Joe Klein already slipped and admitted this was an attack job but because he dared go against the Left, they won't be satisfied with ruining his political chances. They are trying to ruin his marriage, put heat on his family for being associated with him, ruin him in business, ruin his reputation. The scary thing? We let it happen. We start backing a candidate and all the LSM has to do is whisper, "oh, did you hear about...> and the "gossiping old women" in our circles do the rest. In the end, a solid candidate is ruined and we're forced to accept another McCain, another Olympia Snowe, another Lindsey Graham. How long are we going to sit back and let them dictate the make-up and policies of OUR candidates? Their candidates are far more flawed than ours, John Murtha was so dirty in using his position to award military contracts to his buddies for kick-backs. Nancy Pelosi stole from the country when she took personal trips in her jet. Barney Frank was indicted for his part regarding a gay prostitution ring out of his DC apartment. But we are expected to crucify a man for what? The appearance of impropriety. No video tapes, no blue dress, no eye witnesses, just because several women with questionable pasts say he did things during his time at the National Restaurant Association, around the time he was dealing with stage 3 or stage 4 cancer.
Rosie| 12.4.11 @ 7:11PM
"Women with questionable pasts" - funny how anyone who isn't a straight-laced, virgin-til-the-day-I-wed, husband-serving, God-fearing housewife is a woman with a questionable past in the eyes of conservative men...
Nick| 12.5.11 @ 12:03AM
Rosie,
This is not true.
We just know that if they are liberal feminazis, they must be sluts!
Good day to you, ma'dam.
Brian Mc| 12.2.11 @ 6:50AM
It's a shame that the MSM could not have shown Cain the same disregard concerning his private past that they allowed Slick Willie and the alien. And with the world crashing down all around him, is it any wonder that he stuttered through a question that was to my way of thinking, the final nail in his coffin?
He would still have my vote if the polls were open today...though, I would be forced to hold my nose, a bit. But, isn't that always the case with a media that shows every wart of the GOP but breaks out the heavy make-up for the progressive? If they were to be equally passionate towards both candidates in such regards it would be a no contest landslide conservative victory every time.
Alas, we are forced to sleep in the media bed they have made for us. Luckily, for us, we are allowed to choose our own PJs and hence, are given some insulation from the cold realities. Please, forgive the poor analogy. It is early.
Tina B| 12.2.11 @ 9:14AM
I like the warm jammies analogy, Central Florida is still in the 50s, yippie!
I too would vote for Cain at this moment in time. The hell with his warts, especially in the face of the Alynski model currently in the WH - oopsie, that was a pretty sad analogy as well.
Brian Mc| 12.2.11 @ 1:10PM
Good one, Tina!
Liz| 12.2.11 @ 1:36PM
You must have been off-world from 1993-1998, Brian. Our government spent almost $50M in tax dollars in hopes that Ken Starr would find something to get Clinton on. The impeachment failed because the evidence was just not there. But for most of his two terms, there was ZERO disregard for his private past.
As for Obama's past, all I have heard for three years is chit about how in 1961 his parents conspired to fake his birth certificate so he could run for president in 2007 and win in 2008. Again, where is that disregard?
Cain's past concerning women is a matter of record. The NRA has documentation of his issues while with them, along with proof of payment. In harassment cases, it is almost unheard of to pay a settlement in advance of a court case unless they know they will have to pay more in court.
And the biggest problem I see with Cain and his women problems is that he still has not discussed anything with his wife. Seriously? If there were nothing to it, wouldn't any innocent man be rushing home to the wife and discussing it IMMEDIATELY?
I wouldn't have supported the man anyway because his knowledge of international affairs is abysmal. I have long suspected he is only running to sell books and to get an "in" with his "bruthas of another mutha" (as he calls the Koch brothers).
max_kain| 12.2.11 @ 2:26PM
Liz, you're a fool. Companies settle out of court all the time on harassment cases. It's a matter of practice because a feminist judge and/or a sympathetic jury could cost them hundreds of thousands for nothing. The average $30,000 that they pay is less than what they would pay for their defense lawyers to fight off the charges, remember that it costs these women nothing to file charges. In real harassment cases, complaints are filed with the government so they can investigate too, but not in any of the cases of Herman's early accusers. So right there, BS on your first weak argument.
Second, he already said in statements that he has spoken with his wife over the phone and that she was satisfied with his narrative. If there was anything serious about it, I would imagine that he would have gone home right away to prevent even further scandal with his wife leaving him or filing for divorce. I think most folks would agree with me but you've already made up your mind and convicted on hearsay.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 3:07PM
Well, Liz, There you have it. The NRA settled with these trolls for roughly $40k a piece. How much did Clinton settle with Paula Jones for? $850,000.. Now THAT is guilty money. not 40k.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 3:09PM
Its too bad they won't release Obama's records or then it might too be a "matter of record." However, there is no record except that the judge ruled that the allegations were "baseless".
You are a fool.
idalily| 12.2.11 @ 4:08PM
Um, Liz, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Clinton's impeachment did not fail. He WAS impeached.
Brian Mc| 12.2.11 @ 6:50PM
"High Crimes" was the big argument if memory serves me. The libs wanted you to believe that it referred to severity and not the fact that it was committed in high places which is the correct interpretation, I might add. And Liz could ask Bill how that ol' law practice is holding up and get back to us.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:36PM
I'm not so sure about this, but perjury is a High Crime in and of itself. More than Nixon was accused of - nothing ever proven on Nixon, BTW.
What is more interesting is the High Misdemeanor. As Ann Coulter pointed out, it refers to conduct irrespective of illegality. It doesn't refer to traffic tickets.
martin j smith| 12.2.11 @ 7:14AM
What is sad about the Cain campaign are Republicans who support Communist BS.
Like the above writer. This mis destructive not only to Cain but eventually to ALL OTHER CANDIDATES.
I cannot stop the stupid from being stupid but I can recognize it and see it for myself.
Mike Rogers | 12.2.11 @ 8:58AM
Why should we not expect Ad-Hominem attacks from Jay aD Hominick?
What a shoddy piece, and so racist - Cain was never an affirmative action hire, and ad-hominick mixed several of his jobs together in that very poor description of a stellar career.
Prester John| 12.2.11 @ 7:45AM
It is one thing to not support Cain because of questions on policy and his experience, but good lord, for so many people to jump ship because of what is so obviously a smear campaign is shameful.
Does anyone think that the fact that these women starting popping up (with Gloria Allred no less) when he really started gathering steam in late October is a mere coincidence?
If Cain is still in the race at Christmas count on someone coming forward to say they saw him molesting little boys at Penn State.
Meanwhile, I hope everyone is ready to listen the media dissect every gory detail of Newt's personal life.
And then when they are done with Newt they'll work their way through the list until only Romney is left standing.
Mike Rogers | 12.2.11 @ 9:01AM
And then they'll destroy Mittens as soon as he's nominated. What's the latest a Paul-Johnson ticket could be filed for the general?
I don't really want Ron Paul as nominee, but if it looks like O'Bummer is destroying Mittens, 3rd party may be the only rescue plan.
jagscl | 12.3.11 @ 5:03AM
Third party is never a rescue plan only an anchor tied to whoever opposes Obama.
Tina B| 12.2.11 @ 9:17AM
"If Cain is still in the race at Christmas count on someone coming forward to say they saw him molesting little boys at Penn State."
Spot on, PJ.
loulou| 12.2.11 @ 10:17AM
This was a lynching. Aided by Rove, and other establishment RINOs. They're happy that a good man is trashed so they can have their robot Mitt or hyperventilating progressive Newt.
Guess what--I'm not voting for either. Maybe Perry, Bachmann or Santorum but not Newt or Mitt.
Pelligrino| 12.2.11 @ 4:27PM
Thank you, Loulou. I'm with you.
What's been done to Mr. Herman Cain is unconscionable.
Mr. J. Homnick's piece here should be his very last at American Spectator. Editors? Do the right thing, ASO leadership: Terminate.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 10:42AM
Sharon Bialek was evicted from her place this week. She OBVIOUSLY has NO financial motivations..
Liz| 12.2.11 @ 1:38PM
And she refused the "honorarium" to shut up and go away, so you were saying...?
max_kain| 12.2.11 @ 2:27PM
Don't try and confuse Liz with the facts.
Drunken Sailor| 12.2.11 @ 2:46PM
Max, I think Liz may be bitter over losing her sugar daddy.
conservative college teacher| 12.2.11 @ 7:46AM
Great article, but you used the word "folks".
Dick Nome| 12.2.11 @ 8:13AM
Good god. Primaries have not even started and not one vote cast. Here we are using these useless 'debates' and the court of Media opinion hits to select a candidate. This whole process is bizarre. If this is how it going to be done, all the candidate will be dirty by the time election day rolls around and Obama will look clean by then. In case you doubt me, this is how John Corzine won in NJ and nearly beat Christy narrowly on the re-elect.
read between the lines| 12.2.11 @ 4:43PM
Mr. Nome, thank you. You provide excellent perspective here by introducing to this discussion the name of the former U.S. Senator John Corzine who will (after some very slow wheels of justice) become convicted felon John Corzine.
People reading here and throughout our land need to put their thinking caps on.
We're served up People/Us/National Enquirer pablum and folks here latch their dentures onto it as if it is prime sirloin.
Read between the lines. Somewhere in tony $19,000 per month fully furnished office work suites in Chicago, New York, and Washington, D.C. fat ole career political campaign huckster men are slapping their beer bellies and keeling over in laughter at "How we brought the Herman Cain ship down!"
As they knife a victory cut in their size 44 leather belts, the phone rings. It is their "boss." His words, "Okay, stop congratulating yourselves over Herman's little 'misfortunes.' Now get back to work. I need the Santorum takedown plan and executables by Tuesday."
As you wring your hands in anguish over having trusted Cain yet now feel the bitterness as one who is jilted, just remember P.T. Barnum said it best. "There's a sucker born every minute."
SUSEYQUE| 12.2.11 @ 8:49AM
It is very difficult to bear the sexual escapades of unbelievers in this sex-saturated
culture, but it is even more painful when a believer flirts with sexual sin. The red flag for me is that
Mr. Cain would give any woman money without his wife being aware of it.
There are some men who when they have wealth and power of any kind tend to feel they are entitled to whatever they want and usually it is a type of sex that pleases them the most. Cain traveled a lot without his wife. The willing woman knew Cain was a married man and he knew he was a married man, but they cast that fact aside for their own selfish reasons. Both Cain and this woman have a seared conscience. (sex or no sex) Cain’s wife will not divorce him, but her trust level must be very low.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:38PM
Perhaps he is is just an old-fasioned guy who keeps the finances to himself.
Clint| 12.2.11 @ 9:01AM
The RINO-CINO Ruling Elite Are Spiking The Ball And Doin' Their End Zone Dance.
We Are Being Set Up By RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges.
These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Mike Rogers | 12.2.11 @ 9:05AM
If Ron Paul is the last man standing (Mittens excluded), I may yet concede you were right.
For now, my objections to Ron Paul remain his propensity to blame America and then allow Iran their nukes.
Clint| 12.2.11 @ 9:12AM
We Tea Party Patriots Are American Freemen.
The RINO-CINO GOP Ruling Elite Doesn't Own Us Or Our Vote.
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Doctor Right| 12.2.11 @ 4:25PM
Speaking in my official capacity for the RINO-CINO Elite, we look forward to getting your vote next November.
Talk is cheap; anonymous posting is even cheaper.
D.J. | 12.2.11 @ 5:05PM
...says the anonymous poster.
Clint| 12.2.11 @ 9:13PM
So's Yo Mama Dr.Reich.
The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On The Romney Stooge.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:39PM
I Ron Paul is the last man standing, I will vote for Obama.
martin j smith| 12.2.11 @ 9:05AM
Jay for the purposes of honesty who if anyone do you support ? And, do you not see that all candidates will have turn to be smeared based on very shaky or no evidence at all ?
Stefan Stackhouse| 12.2.11 @ 9:05AM
The thing is, national security and foreign affairs are the main thing that US presidents actually do. It was already becoming quite obvious that Cain actually knew next to nothing about any of this. Thus, I was already starting to sour on Cain even before all of this other garbage started hitting the fan. It doesn't really matter how much of it is true or false, what really matters is that there was just way too much of it, period. The last straw, at least as far as I'm concerned, and I rather suspect that I am not alone in that assessment.
David| 12.2.11 @ 9:08AM
Well this is a shame. Cain's out and not doubt Newt "I make deals that hurt America" Gingrich will get the spot.
Newt is a slimy weasel.
Where's Sarah when we need her?
Liz| 12.2.11 @ 1:39PM
Getting paid a small fortune by Robert Ailes to look pert and utter inanities for Fox...
Anthony| 12.2.11 @ 9:08AM
I Like Mr. Cain and have supported his candidacy. I am not pleased with this recent disclosure. Although I dismissed that slime ball Gloria Allred's recent tramp parade, it was still disquieting, howevever, I also loved shoving Mr. Cain down the throats of the MSM, as the liar Joe Klein noted, even more. But perhaps it's time for Mr. Cain to reconsider.
No wait!!!! I suggest that Herman ask Mrs. Cain to call the Mrs. Rev. Jessie Jackson to see how things are with her and the holy Rev., and how Jessie's love child, produced with a cumly Rainbow worker, has affected their marriage.
If Mrs. Jackson tells Mrs. Cain," ain't no big deal", then Herman should stay in the race and tell the MSM Mrs. Rev. Jackson told him so!!!! Then hand our cigars, Bill Clinton's favorites.
martin j smith| 12.2.11 @ 9:18AM
One point: Obama is flawless ? Obamas is exactly what we need. Obama can do no wrong ? There is nothing about Obama that cannot be exposed or should be. Obama is more perfect than any on our side ? Tell me .That is compared with our candidates ?
canuckistani| 12.2.11 @ 3:19PM
The party has had seven years to find a suitable replacement to Junior. They haven't, so you blame BHO?
Perhaps the game has gotten so rigged and contrived that we are left with this pitiful band of fools.
The GOP blew their brains out when they signed on with neocons in '98 and again with the Jesus-freaks in 2002. These bargains have consequences, and we are reaping them now.
The party needs to compress the run-up period and not accept nomination papers until after Nov 1st. That's a full two months to vagrant around Ames and Concord. This process would eliminate protest candidates like Paul and clowns like Cain very early on and bring serious candidates to the fore by the strength of their organizations and not this soundbite drive-by process being skippered by Newtie.
I am also in favor of a national primary, and a constituional amendment allowing only individuals to contribute to campaigns - with limits. These measures again allow only serious contenders into the race, and provide the transparancy we so badly need into how and who is funding these charades.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:40PM
Again, note. Leftist troll. Ignore.
Mike Rogers | 12.2.11 @ 9:18AM
J aD-Hominick, you should be ashamed!
Regardless of opinions pro and con about Cain's situation, which I regard as a smear campaign that was not handled too well, you have so many facts wrong or colored(!) by your own opinions that you cannot call yourself any kind of journalist.
Cain was not an affirmative action hire.
After working as a mathematician and computer analyst for the dept of the Navy, his father helped him get a job at Coca-Cola, but he soon struck out on his own, taking a job at Pillsbury.
After climbing the ladder at corporate, he was asked to run Burger King's Philly region, and he worked at all levels alongside the staff, as he devised and implemented a turnaround strategy which made it the most profitable region of BK.
AFTER that success, he was assigned to try his hand at the near bankrupt Godfathers pizza subsidiary. THAT brilliant turnaround led to the leveraged buyout, and his wider recognition.
Alongside all that, Cain became an accomplished inspirational speaker and writer, long before he got into radio and politics.
Also, during that ride, as your competitors at NRO reported, the long-time receptionist at Godfathers, who pre-dated Cain, along with ALL the executive secretaries, had nothing but good things to report.
Louis Jenkins| 12.2.11 @ 9:33AM
Mike Rogers:
Cain's rise to the top of corporate America is stunning. Compare his resume' to that of Obama's. A community worker and that's it? Cain could work rings around Obama, jump down and slap his momma if she were still alive. Something is going on with the MSM, and the WH. Something rotten in Denmark. Newt is next on the chopping block, and the attack, once it starts churning, will be relentless.
loulou| 12.2.11 @ 10:23AM
Actually, Newt will not be on the chopping block until the general election, assuming he wins the nomination.
Obama wants to run against either Newt or Mitt and will lay low for now. Maybe the RINOs will finally have to question why Obama has multiple social security #s and on what passport did he travel to Pakistan, etc. Eeuwww , such icky questions. Not respectful. The GOP nominee had better develop some ballz, pronto.
canuckistani| 12.2.11 @ 3:28PM
Difference being BHO has run and won. Cain has won nothing. He ran a pizza chain. Terrific. He was the lobbyist in chief for the NRA. Great. What policy has he devised and enacted. Zero.
BHO is also a helluva debater and campaigner. When ALL of the candidates raised their hands and refused a 10 to 1 tax deal, they shot themselves in the head before the general even begins. It was stupid and BHO's minions have all the rhetorical points they need from Prof. Newtie shooting his mouth off for the last 7 months.
Blaming the MSM is pointless. It is what it is, the people love it. It's time to get over it and focus on how we govern this country effectively - if given the opp.
The old adage in politics is "if you are explaining, you are losing". We are losing.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:41PM
Troll. Go post at HuffPo.
Zak Klemmer| 12.4.11 @ 2:26PM
Margret Carlson loves Mitt Romney.
Tina B| 12.2.11 @ 9:19AM
What an interesting picture to ponder, Anthony.
Kingofthenet| 12.2.11 @ 9:27AM
I have a great deal of sympathy for 'flawed' individuals, but NOT Hypocrites. I couldn't care less if Rush Limbaugh has a drug problem, Herman loves the ladies or some Evangelical Preacher likes to get 'Massages' from gay prostitutes, but don't DARE pretend or infer you are BETTER than me or try to impose your 'phoney' morality on me.
Clint| 12.2.11 @ 9:33AM
" The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 20% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-two percent (42%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -22 "
PolishKnight| 12.2.11 @ 9:56AM
A key difference between Rush's hypocrisy and the left's is that at least with Rush, he had the decency to keep his in the closet. The left parade theirs around: Al Gore runs A/Cs at several mansions and flies in private jets. Obama supporters bash whites and males while claiming that their opponents are racists. They preach the evils of corporate welfare while their cronies get billions in corporate welfare.
Leftism is literally officially morally bankrupt (lots of llys there!) It's primary concern is saving their brand and party which is why a green party would never take off the ground. Why would a faithful leftist want to support a party that's probably doing to lose? Even as the left worships Europe, they're taking it down perhaps even faster than they're doing to the great satan, the USA.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:46PM
I find it hard to claim Rush was a hypocrite. He took pain medicine, and did not try hard enough to shake a psychological addiction. When caught, he did not claim innocence. If that's hypocricy, many of us are.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:47PM
However , your point is good.
loulou| 12.2.11 @ 10:25AM
You meant to say imply, not infer. I never heard Cain impose phony morality on anyone. Get off your high horse.
idalily| 12.2.11 @ 4:19PM
King, let's make a deal. I agree not to impose my morality (phony or otherwise) on liberals, and liberals agree to keep their greedy, do-gooder hands off my hard earned money. Deal?
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:43PM
When has anyone claimed to be better than you?
So marlify is phony because people aren't perfect? Clinton was president; should we legalize rape?
martin j smith| 12.2.11 @ 9:28AM
kingof the nyet: It is Obama that meets your profile of "imposing a phoney morality" on US.
Petronius| 12.2.11 @ 9:58AM
If a Republican is to be elected President any time in the future, the character assassination squads of the main stream media must be sidelined. Not one of this bunch is willing to take them on because their game is smash mouth. For far too long Republicans fought for acceptance by the left instead of defeating them. They will do what they did last time and dither to their own defeat bringing untold ruin to us all. Little do they care. By remaining undisciplined and irresolute they know that the rest of us will pay in dearest coin, property, and blood, as they continue licking the backsides of the Liberal elite, collecting the leftovers, and maintaining the inside trading pipeline which is legal for themselves alone. The fix is in. Never again will Conservatives have a presidential candidate to vote for on election day.
John| 12.2.11 @ 10:01AM
Herman Cain is done, he is politically dead. His 9-9-9 plan is flawed, and has no knowledge on fiscal and foreign policy. Accusations against him seem to be valid, and he never denies or produces any counter evidence. He must end his campaign.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 10:39AM
How do you produce "counter-evidence" of something that never happened?
Anthony| 12.2.11 @ 1:37PM
Or, how does one go about proving a negative?
John is a student of the Dan Rather school of journalism; throw crap up against the wall and insist that the victim prove the story to be false. The new MSM journalistic standard. This is what Politico did with the first batch of women.
goldwater girl| 12.2.11 @ 4:15PM
yes, Mr. Cain, when did you stop beating your wife? The fix is in.......... next up, Newt. Let's see how long it takes before someone steps up to make a claim about him.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 11:05AM
In other words, it is one the accuser to provide PROOF. Not circumstantial evidence.
Liz| 12.2.11 @ 1:43PM
The payouts by the NRA back in the 1990s are a matter of record and have been confirmed by the NRA, as far as they could with the confidentiality agreements. Cain breached the agreements first by calling the women liars and saying the payments were only made to preclude going to trial. Smoke=fire in this case.
In addition, the woman he allegedly had an affair with has produced emails, text messages and other evidence. Now, should the hotel records be pulled up where she allegedly traveled with him when he was still with the NRA...
goldwater girl| 12.2.11 @ 4:17PM
Ginger, I mean Liz, go peddle your rant somewhere else. Or maybe you're that Karen Crotch-shower chick........ we've all known man-haters like you.
idalily| 12.2.11 @ 4:21PM
Liz, hey, look, you liberals got what you wanted. Cain is out. Gingrich will now be the nominee. Happy now? Yeah, I thought not.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:51PM
So what? People commonly pay out to avoid litigation. My gosh, have you ever spoken to a businessman? As far as emails are concerned, the evidence against his accuser is a lot stronger than the evidence against Cain.
This lady reminds me of the lady they would have at the Friar's Club (comedian) roasts, coming out and making comedic charges of infidelity.
max_kain| 12.2.11 @ 2:34PM
You're right. Mark Levin had an employment attorney call in a few weeks ago that debunked the payment=guilt myth that people like Liz are perpetrating. If there was anything to it then the easily mislead wouldn't be running to all these conservative websites to try and spread the smear. What's in the texts and emails, what's the context? People who are trying to further spread the smear act like it's impossible for a man and women who aren't married to be friends without something else occurring. Those are also the same people who turned a blind eye to Bill Clinton's issues (notice that Clinton never addressed the rape issue). Show me evidence. It's one thing if you are just not a Cain supporter and want another candidate, it's another to be a willing dupe for the Stephanopolis', the Allreds, and the other special pleaders for the Obama admin.
goldwater girl| 12.2.11 @ 4:20PM
and remember in the 90's, the human resource dept held sexual harassment training, so all the women would know the right things to say when making a claim of harassment. Sexual her-assment was invented by the lawyers, just a new revenue stream from corporate America
John| 12.2.11 @ 10:02AM
Cain needs to end his campaign and joins the Haus of Gaga for the upcoming music video, 9-9-9.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 11:15AM
Duh-huh-huh-huh... you made a funny..
claudia Monteverdi| 12.2.11 @ 3:07PM
hey John..first intelligent letter I have read..but I am only half way through this sea of drivel!
Love,
Claudia
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:53PM
Hey troll, you have a life? Or you do this for a living?
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:53PM
Seriously, the problem is that in our twisted society, Doing the Right Thing is taken as an admission of guilt.
Kingofthenet| 12.2.11 @ 10:03AM
Harry Callahan: I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
So what's it gonna be Conservatives? Are you willing to take a Possible humiliating landslide loss, for the Chance of getting the 'Real Deal' or are you going with the RINO?
Clint| 12.2.11 @ 11:00AM
Walt Kowalski: [sneering and aiming his gun] Get off my lawn!
claudia Monteverdi| 12.2.11 @ 3:10PM
ok KING..your letter approaches the borderline of sanity..not quite, but it does float to the top of this cesspool of idiotic responses to a brilliant article by Jay..
Thanks,
Claudia
John| 12.2.11 @ 10:03AM
Herman Cain=John Edward=Bill Clinton.
Oops, I did it again......................
Simon Templar| 12.2.11 @ 10:11AM
John = Idiot troll = Lame = Brainless
John| 12.2.11 @ 10:35AM
Why don't you join the club with Bill, John, and Herman, Mr Simon Templar?
Simon Templar| 12.2.11 @ 10:46AM
John,
Why don't you exercise that brain God gave you.
John, you are fooling no one. You are just another self absorbed troll that comes out here to annoy and offer nothing but equal signs.
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:55PM
Stop complimenting him.
somnolence| 12.2.11 @ 10:07AM
I'm not for him, but here's some consolation to all you Paul people in response to a reactionary comment made above: MR. GINGRICH is also not going to ever be President, mark my words. And BTW, yes, I would vote for Paul before Gingrich(who I will NEVER vote for, along WITH Romney). If Cain leaves, my support automatically goes to Bachmann. If she leaves, yes, I may cast an angry-man vote for Paul in the primaries. Just because every fool jumps in the lake for Gingrich doesn't mean I follow. He is a 3 time adulterer and supported health care mandates along with kissing up to Nancy Pelosi on global warming. You take Gingrich and shove him where the sun don't shine.
VinnieCCT| 12.2.11 @ 11:50AM
I agree with you. I think that there are many silent people out there that also agree. I predict that Bachmann's numbers are going to go way up if Cain drops out.
Simon Templar| 12.2.11 @ 10:08AM
Homnick, you really have to make up your mind and stop assuming that everyone out here is a brainless useful idiot looking for someone to tell the what to think.
So, what is he? A nice, amiable, sincere, good guy or a lying unforgivable, adulterer? Can not be both, jackass. You words not mine. Did anyone here notice the contradiction in your lame article?
The more I see of what TAS produces for supposedly credentialed writers, the more confident I am that I could write a better one.
What is really sad and pathetic is the consequences of your low ball article and your participation in destroying a man with the liberal MSM media. Yo have now set the precedent and a new low. It will be the new standard and much easier in future elections to destroy someone on pure unsubstantiated allegations.This was NEVER about Cain, it was about republican candidates and what progessive elitist can get away with and whta idiots like you would accept.
I do not expect you to get this...and I am confident you will not. This is precisely why conservativism will ultimately lose.
Mac Jehoff| 12.2.11 @ 10:18AM
So write up or shut up.
Simon Templar| 12.2.11 @ 10:32AM
Read up or mind your own damn business.
Simon Templar| 12.2.11 @ 10:37AM
MAC JACOFF,
I see you are another brainless useful idiot with a cute retort but no ability to actually write a reasoned response to the actual content of someone's comment. You are just another crude idiot with a grand ego.
Peter Yankov| 12.2.11 @ 6:12PM
And a Bronx Cheer to you to.
Simon Templar| 12.3.11 @ 12:59AM
Go jerk yourself off. You seem to do that well.
claudia Monteverdi| 12.2.11 @ 3:18PM
OMG...MAY THE SAINTS PRESERVE US..Simon Templar is here amongst us, spouting more of the smelly bile which has permeated the vast majority of the hate mail in these rather idiotic responses to Jay's magnificent article...OK Saint, you say......Homnick, you really have to make up your mind and stop assuming that everyone out here is a brainless useful idiot looking for someone to tell the what to think.......If such be Mr. Homnick's assumption, (it surely is mine) it offers further testimony to his keen powers of discerment!
..may the Saints grant you an IQ higher than Obama's approval rating,
Claudia
Simon Templar| 12.3.11 @ 1:02AM
You said nothing. Apparently you can not construct a response or rebuttal to anything I have said. All you are capable of is smarmy name calling. You do have a brain?
somnolence| 12.2.11 @ 10:10AM
You haven't sold me on the deal that Gingrich will be any better or any worse than the Marxist in the White House, in other words. JOHN MCCAIN II-mark my words.
loulou| 12.2.11 @ 10:29AM
You nailed it.
I will not vote for Newt. And not because of his marital history. He's a bobdole and a John McCain except he's more pompous.
Climate change, amnesty, commissions, study groups, blah, blah blah. Newt's a statist.
John| 12.2.11 @ 10:32AM
Herman Cain is disgrace and has no chance in winning the GOP nomination. He wanted fame,instead he had got his 15 minutes of shame, series of sexual harrasment allegations.
John| 12.2.11 @ 10:34AM
Bill Clinton : Bad Romance
John Edward : Adultery
Al Gore : Sex Addict
Herman Cain : Sex Clown
mzk1| 12.3.11 @ 4:58PM
Bad Romance? Bad Romance?
How about rape, false accusations, blackmail. ruining peoples' lives, perjury, corrupting the youth of the nation.....
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 10:36AM
Looks like Jay Homnick is buying into the MSM's gutter journalism.
I still have questions:
Is there any other reason to have been on the phone with her besides a sexual relationship?
If there was a 13 year affair, and he was flying her all over the country, where are the airline tickets? The hotel receipts?
There should be more than just a cell phone record, in my opinion. I find it difficult to believe.
Not to mention this latest accuser is unemployed, she just lost a court case AGAINST her for stalking and defamation, Bankruptcy, a sexual harassment suit in her past, hasn't paid rent all year.
Hey Jay, don't you think any of that kind of character record might cast some doubt over the honesty of her accusations?
Simon Templar| 12.2.11 @ 11:04AM
Phil, excellent questions. Homnick is not interested in any of these questions. He is an agenda journalist and a smear chaser.
By the way, Herman has apparently helped financially dozens of people over the last 15 years. She is not the only one and not all were female. When Cain drops out full smear and cooperation with MSM will the be focused on Gingrich.
The amazing thing that I can not seem to stop being amazed about is the complete blindess that most of the bloggers and TAS journalist have to the FACT that this whole primary was about destroying ALL the conservative candidates. All of them from the Perry supporters to the Paul supporters have lined up in a circular firing squad.
The echoing and support of liberal MSM smear against their own party's candidates was astounding. There was NO real, legitimate, substantial criticism or evaluation of any of these candidates. Neither was there any significant defense of any of these candidates against these smears or any journalistic investigation. In Cain's case, it took a local Atlanta TV sation to uncover the nefarious details of these smears and the accusers backgrounds and doubts of their credibility.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 11:08AM
I'm with ya. But it seems that logic and reason have been lost on America. The result of 40 years of the Dept of Education: Stupid Americans unable to engage in Critical Thinking.
Simon Templar| 12.2.11 @ 11:32AM
Phil, you have no idea how much it pleases me that you see that so clearly. You are one of the few, the brave, and those that have brain and use it well. You are a great observor, cut through the crap, and know how to think logically with reason.
claudia Monteverdi| 12.2.11 @ 3:22PM
Simon Old Chap,
It is thrilling that you have found Phil, a pukey playmate in this MSM world...
Happy for you,
Claudia
Simon Templar| 12.3.11 @ 1:05AM
Another lame, uncreative, and juvenile response from Claudia M.
rd| 12.2.11 @ 5:05PM
I also agree with Simon and Phil.
Simon is correct. As we near January 2012, this unopposed president and his administration AND the leftist-destroy America consortium have lined up one potential opponent after the other into the crosshairs.
Sarah Palin was first (she's not in this because she's been warned off), Mitch Daniels, Tim Pawlenty, Rick Perry, Herman Cain, and next?
Simon your argument is dead on.
This is not just about destroying a crop of potential national or statewide/region appeal candidates, this about portraying opponents as inept, incapable, dundering, mentally weak.
It is about destroying the American right with roots in the founding of America and America's exceptionalism and greatness.
Margie| 12.2.11 @ 8:14PM
Republican Establishment=MSM filth=Enemies of Conservatives.
Long live the Republic! Those of us who give a damn and care enough to speak the truth will NEVER GIVE UP fighting for what's right.
Screw the Liberal Republicans.
Liz| 12.2.11 @ 1:48PM
If you looked at that stalking/defamation case, there was NO court proceeding. All that happened was that her former business partner got a restraining order based on a single mean text message sent a year ago.
There are a lot more records than just one cell phone call, BTW. The woman has produced emails, a sheaf of cell records and some receipts. She wouldn't have the ones for the flights and the hotels because (DUH!) Herman paid for them.
Hyperbole is not making your case.
Drunken Sailor| 12.2.11 @ 2:08PM
We get it. You don't like Cain.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 2:51PM
Actually, there is Liz. The Defamation case is in regards to a business partner she had in a business in fitness (spin classes). After she bought her partner out she sent out an email to the clients, basically bashing her, and the judge ruled that in was indeed defamation of character.
I suggest you get your facts straight.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 2:53PM
So she can't prove she was in the same area of the nation as him at the times she says she was? That's not hard to prove. Herman's schedule is well publicized. Hell, a mcdonald's receipt could do the job.
claudia Monteverdi| 12.2.11 @ 3:23PM
Liz, it's you n me against the world...good for you!
Claudia
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 4:46PM
No, Its you and Liz against the facts.
ole meanie| 12.2.11 @ 10:48AM
Being an unrepentant sinner myself and not one bit religious, I don't care one bit if Cain was/is a bad boy. In fact, if he had said, "Yep, I have always been a bad boy, what of it?", I would have laughed and said to myself that THIS MAN is a Man of Principle, to be trusted. And it would have made the whole parade of bimbos pointless from then on, and the MSM would have had to focus on his ideas instead of his alleged defects in character. I don't see the MSM beating up on Newt for his marital failings, and of course we all know how they gave Clinton a green light.
But Cain couldn't do this. He couldn't think far enough ahead to realize that this kind of attack would be forthcoming, or what his behavior--even if he really was only helping troubled women financially-- could be made to look like. After these babes started crawling out of the woodwork, Cain tried to brazen it through with denials and dodges, the list of which doesn't need enumeration here.
Despite all the protestations of people who say he is being slandered by Obama and/or the MSM, if Cain had frankly admitted being a randy rake, many of these very supporters would have turned their backs on him with the same distaste they show for Newt Ginrich's moral failings. Cain knew this, and sought to avoid it by an assortment of lame responses. Cain appears, at least to me, as weak, indecisive, inept and lacking in credibility.
As to the article by Jay D. Homnick, I think it is extremely witty. Not to mention, utterly destructive, because once Cain's conduct becomes a subject of humor, he is well and truly toast.
Simon Templar| 12.2.11 @ 11:22AM
Let me see if I got this correct.
You have no use for religion or morality.
You do not care if he did it or did not do it.
You assume he is guilty just by allegation alone without any evidence and some evidence that actually puts these allegations in great doubt.
You do not think that this adulterous and sexually harrasing behavior is important and makes any difference even if he admits it and it is proven.
You think if he admitted it the he would be a man of principle.
You think the MSM would lose its wind if he just admitted it up front and then we would go onto the real issues.
Wow. That leaves me nearly speechless. If there were awards for the most illogical, out of touch with reality, intellectually dishonest and morally relative blogger comment, you would have won first prize. Congratulations. You can share it with Homnick, you are both in a special category.
canuckistani| 12.2.11 @ 3:51PM
I tend to agree that sexual politics in this country is just another example of how we are still adolescents in this realm.
If Cain did sexually harass these women, then yes, it is pertinent. If these women took money and signed a Non-disclosure, then it is done and none of our business.
It is important for me as voter to examine motives. When we were impeaching Willie over his lies about the BJ, the Speaker of the house was cheating on his wife with Callista. Mark Sanford had not yet gone on his walk in the woods, and Larry Craig most certainly was assuming a "wide stance" in congresional broom closets.
If we are to indict men for sexual misdemeanors, then we need unbiased judges. In the absence of them, it is best to table those concerns and focus on real-world issues like a platform and their ability to get it enacted.
ole meanie| 12.2.11 @ 9:09PM
If I have rendered you speechless, sir, I consider it a public service.
Simon Templar| 12.3.11 @ 1:14AM
Almost speechless. Your stupidity, contradiction, illogic is something to behold but not overwhelming. I can handle it. I thank you as well. You present an excellent example the byproduct of a public education and the inability of a great deal of people in this nation and this generation to form a consistent, logical, and rational argument.
BackToBasics| 12.3.11 @ 1:14PM
From ol meanie's post, "I don't see the MSM beating up on Newt for his marital failings"
The MSM will be sure to bring all of this out and much more if Gingrich gets the nomination. In fact they are salivating over the prospect.
So what's the difference between Cain and Gingrich? Cain is a much larger threat to both Democrats and to the Republican Establishment than Gingrich is in both the sgort term and the long term. Even if Cain only got the nomination and didn't win in Nov 2012, he would give blacks reasons to rethink their allegience to the Democrat Party. If he won the election, without an accompanied amnesty for illegals provided by Obam in thenext 4 years, the Democrats could be finished for a long time.
Lastly, Cain is not nearly as much of an insider as Gingrich and this is still an understatement. The Republican Establishment along with the Democrats had to make sure Cain was destroyed early on.
As for the money and help he gave others, he may be tithing 10% to his church and in giving help to individuals and Christian organizations. Being a millionaire, he has probably given a few hundred here and there to many people and he wouldn't even notice it financially.
Why did he handle the accusations so poorly, because he is not a smooth operator like so many politicians are and because he was nervous about being "Clarence Thomased." His wife still backs him and not because they need the money or fame, they don't. No doubt he's been a good husband and father and there is much love between them.
John| 12.2.11 @ 10:54AM
Herman Cain, Bill Clinton, John Edward = Sexual Predator
Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Rachel Meadow = Liar
Democrat Party, Nazi Party, Chinese Communist Party = Socialism, Anarchy, despair
Lenin, Stalin, Mao, LBJ, Obama = Disgrace
canuckistani| 12.2.11 @ 4:04PM
Why would you conjure a list that can be populated by the other sides names with a nanosecond of consideration?
Newtie is also a sexual predator, as was John McCain and John Kerry. So what? Do you want a candidate that has no sex appeal. i.e women want and men fear?
Nancy and Hillary have a franchise on lying? Maybe you were disappointed with your Mrs. Robinson experience in 11th grade.
Lumping LBJ in with Mao and Stalin? Perhaps scaling it back to Franco or Pinochet may have been more apropos.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 11:02AM
Abraham Lincoln said it best:
"If any member of our party is guilty in that matter, you know it or you do not know it. If you do know it, you are inexcusable for not designating the man and proving the fact. If you do not know it, you are inexcusable for asserting it, and especially for persisting in the assertion after you have tried and failed to make the proof. You need to be told that persisting in a charge which one does not know to be true, is simply malicious slander."
John| 12.2.11 @ 11:06AM
Herman Cain can run but he cannot hide.
Bill Clinton committed adultry and found guilty.
John Edward raped and faced imprisonment.
Tiger Woods raped and get away.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 11:10AM
You're a fool. Bill Clinton was accused of Rape and Sexual Assault. John Edwards got another woman pregnant, if I remember correctly, and Tiger woods engaged in Adultery. He paid hookers for christ's sake. You pay hookers, not rape them.
Wake your mind up.
facts to be recollected| 12.2.11 @ 5:12PM
John Edwards also asked a trusted confidant to be the one to say that it was 'his' marital infidelity that resulted in the bastard child. John Edwards also had this confidant pay his mistress money.
All of this occurring while on the presidential campaign trail in years 2007/2008.
Simon Templar| 12.2.11 @ 11:26AM
John likes to just make it up as he goes. Please do not bother him with facts and reality. What no equal signs? You know I never thought that anyone could beat Clint but next to you, he is a genius.
Simon Templar| 12.2.11 @ 11:27AM
That is, of course, directed to our little John. John is now officially worse than Clint.
Drunken Sailor| 12.2.11 @ 12:18PM
He must be hell in a limbo competition. That is a pretty low bar.
Scott| 12.2.11 @ 3:12PM
Tiger is waaaay to cheap to pay for it....since when does sleeping with easy skanks = rape?
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 4:48PM
I call it cherry picking! LOL
Dick Nome | 12.2.11 @ 3:55PM
Hey John, you idiot, Clinton was guilty of perjury in a plea he made. He also admitted to adultery, he just never admitted to rape of Juanita Broaddrick.
Margie| 12.2.11 @ 8:18PM
John can run, but he cannot hide.
Read it and weep:
"But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death." Rev. 21:8.
John| 12.2.11 @ 11:29AM
Sex for money is nothing but a crime. A lot of people commit that crime, never get caught, and thus get away. Committing crimes makes an individual a criminal, whether he/she is proven guilty. Justice does not always stand s for the victims, but for the evidence.
That's why Bill Clinton is fundraising for DNC, Tiger Woods has become the #1 golf player, and Al Gore is preaching liberalism.
DOJ is shameless.
Simon Templar| 12.2.11 @ 11:36AM
Troll murmurings? Did you hear something, Phil?
No. It was just some wind.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 12:30PM
This guy rambles incessantly.. its hard to tell if he's arguing for or against himself.. smh
Kingofthenet| 12.2.11 @ 12:45PM
Well I don't feel bad taking some cash, PRIME USDA Beef doesn't come cheap...
canuckistani| 12.2.11 @ 4:05PM
Charisma means women want you and men fear you. Check history for about the last 10,000 years.......
Hunter R Hickey| 12.2.11 @ 11:31AM
I'm starting to get that sinking feeling again. You know. The one well over 3 years ago where grandpa McCain, the conservative candidate was a grumpy old man. A white longtime republican elitist. County club type who's been in Washington forever. One that is quite unappealing to the youngsters in the country. A few wives and lots of baggage. Shady deals to enhance his bank account although not illegal. Plasticized bleach blond stepford wife. Now tell me, does he really appeal to the financially strained hard working middle class of this country? Is this the best America can do? Am I being too cruel? We have to save the world from Obama by compromising everything we stand for? (But we’re going to have those great debates. So let’s put it all on the line for two nights next fall that are going to be controlled by the mainstream media and spun afterwards to show how Obama won the debate)
John| 12.2.11 @ 11:44AM
Breaking News!
Reporter: Have you molested Sharon Bialek?
Herman Cain: 9-9-9
Reporter: Have you raped Ginger White?
Herman Cain: 9-9-9
Reporter: Do you like Lady Gaga?
Herman Cain: I love bad romance, wait a minute, I never heard of her in my life...........
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 12:34PM
Reporter: John, are you a liberal troll?
John: Yes.
John| 12.2.11 @ 11:45AM
AP reposting:
Herman Cain abandoned the GOP race and joined the Haus of Gaga for the upcoming music video, 9-9-9.
Who Knows?| 12.2.11 @ 11:49AM
Not only is it true that Cain has reached his "Has no clothes" point, but soon enough the same will so for Gingrich---read Jennifer Rubin's latest detailed exposure of Newt:
"The right begins to dissect Gingrich
By Jennifer Rubin
This week we reached Stage 2 in the surge of the latest not-Romney contender. Stage 1 is: “Our conservative savior!” Stage 2 is when conservatives begin to realize: “Oh wait, this guy’s worse than [fill in the blank], the prior not-Romney candidate.” Stage 3 is when the candidates’ shills and misinformed mainstream reporters announce that he’s not harmed by Stage 2. Stage 4 is when Stage 2 sinks in with the electorate at large. Stage 5 is the decline in polls. And Stage 6 is the beginning of the search for the new Stage 1.
This week, Stage 2 began with some much-needed cobweb clearing from the minds of some conservatives. Rep. Ron Paul’s ad got the ball rolling. But solid conservatives from Jim Geraghty to Mona Charen to Marvin Olasky to the editorial board of the Washington Examiner began to sound the alarm. Realizing that the White House is certainly obtainable as President Obama’s support continues to erode even within his own party and that Newt Gingrich might not implode all on his own, conservatives stepped forward. None of these are particularly well-disposed to Mitt Romney, but neither are they willing to avert their eyes from the very serious flaw of his latest rival.
Others like Ramesh Ponnuru have explicitly come out for Romney, while warning about the perils of Gingrich. Ponnuru writes:
His recent proposals on immigration are classic Gingrich: innovative-sounding, accompanied by high-tech gadgetry, and wholly absurd. Local community boards will decide which illegal immigrants to expel! We will be “humane,” while denying temporary workers the vote and stripping their children of citizenship! . . . . Memories have faded, and his current fans say he is a changed man. But he still has the rhetorical style — by turns incendiary, grandiose, and abrasive — that turned off middle-of-the-road Americans then. (November 16: “Because I am much like Reagan and Margaret Thatcher . . . ”) . . . . Recall the events that led to his campaign’s meltdown this summer, in which he first praised Paul Ryan’s plan for entitlements, then condemned it as “right-wing social engineering,” and finally apologized to Ryan for the comment. . . .
The warnings and criticisms fell into four distinct categories. The first is that Gingrich isn’t a staunch conservative but an opportunist who will gladly stab the right in the back for personal gain. The second is that his character is so flawed that he’s not fit to hold the presidency. (Only one issue concerns his serial infidelity. But it is a powerful issue for many soical conservatives, as Ponnuru notes: “He would be the first president with multiple ex-wives, and the first president with any ex-wives who speak negatively about him on the record. He would bring with him the first first lady who could be labeled a ‘home wrecker.’ President Obama would not have to say a word about any of this for the press to make it an issue.”) The third is that he’s not the new Newt at all and continues to dissemble on everything from his lobbying work to his undermining of Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). The fourth is that he made millions lobbying (yes, lobbying) for big government on behalf of clients opposed to conservative principles. And the fifth is that he lacked leadership and organizational skills as speaker of the House and would be an even worse chief executive than Obama.
Now some of these are overlapping. The Examiner covered several in a single sentence: “Gingrich has been seen as an ultimate Washington insider, as exemplified in that $1.6 million he was paid to represent Fannie and Freddie, and his work with Nancy Pelosi on behalf of cap-and-trade.”
What is interesting is that with the exception of the Paul ad and some barbed comments from Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), all of this came to pass in a week and without much, if any, effort by the other Gingrich competitors. Romney has barely begun to attack Gingrich, deploying New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie to highlight the fifth category of criticisms. (“Speaker Gingrich has never run anything. He’s been a legislator. I have to tell you — I don’t think being a legislator is the best calling card. Look at the guy we have in the White House now. He never ran anything and was a legislator.”) Romney, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and others are telling us they are going to engage Gingrich, but unlike the surges of Herman Cain, Perry and Bachmann, there are many voices on the right who aren’t doing the “circle the wagons” and “it’s all a mainstream media plot” routine that they deployed to defend other not-Romney rivals. That is because Gingrich is better known, and frankly the stakes are getting higher as we approach the first actual contests.
But more than the pundits, more than his opponents, it is Gingrich who remains his most legal threat. When he insists that he was not a lobbyist but a “citizen” when collecting tens of millions to influence lawmakers, he merely confirms the worst aspects of his persona (self-indulgent, obtuse, dishonest) and reminds Tea Partyers that he represents what they oppose.
Gingrich’s record is still sketchily known to many voters. But that record is emerging, and the arguments against his candidacy are being methodically forged by those who think the country’s problems are too great and the GOP’s shot at the White House is too important to entrust the nomination to someone whose defining characteristics (e.g. megalomania, recklessness, disorganization) are overwhelmingly negative. After a week of initial intensity the question on the minds many conservatives is: Is Gingrich really the GOP’s idea of an anti-Romney?"
claudia Monteverdi| 12.2.11 @ 3:28PM
HEAR HEAR!
at last a letter worthy of these pages. "Who Knows??? You and of corse Jenny Rubin are right on target and may I add a rather rfreshing whiff of sanity in this steamy cess pool of nuts and knaves!
Thanks,
Claudia
Derek Leaberry| 12.2.11 @ 11:49AM
Mr. Cain is either a very good liar or a saint. I'm guessing the former.
canuckistani| 12.2.11 @ 4:06PM
How about neither. His lying is suspect as well...
John| 12.2.11 @ 12:02PM
Mr. Cain is a pathological liar.
Dick Nome | 12.2.11 @ 3:48PM
If he is, he's not anywhere near as good a Slick WIlly.
W.C. Wood| 12.2.11 @ 12:11PM
The thing that puzzles is that, given that Cain has demonstrated intelligence and wisdom, why would he even think about running for prez if he had recently ended a 13 year affair? This question makes me wonder how much truth there is to it. (I do think Cain is finished even if the affair never happened.)
canuckistani| 12.2.11 @ 4:08PM
He's oblivious to the issue. The GOP has been co-opted by the Ladies of the Temperance Movement for about the last two decades. Right around the time they committed to impeaching a sitting president over a BJ......
Slacker| 12.2.11 @ 12:12PM
Come on people, this was easy to predict.
Powerful businessmen are almost universally super alpha types with passionate personalities and excess vigor. Their power, wealth, and personalities guarantee some degree of debauchery. It is a side effect of what makes them successful. A CEO who doesn’t engage in extramarital affairs is a rare breed indeed.
The most disappointing details are the fugly low class tramps he was balling. He must have had a thing for plain sluts (like Arnold). Curious peak into his personality.
John| 12.2.11 @ 12:21PM
Herman Cain is DONE!!!!!!!!!!!
Ken (Old Texican)| 12.2.11 @ 12:23PM
Ladies and gentlemen,
in a Texas phrase..."It really is time to cowboy up."
We have a Governor here in Texas...under the anal exams for 17 years...without a whisper of scandal 0r adultry.
He has quietly led our State to overwhelming success in a national car wreck.
Please, re-think. Just step back and re-think.
Think about his future "debates" with Obama.
"Uh Mr. President...you have spent all the money and put us in debt for twenty years.
"You have done your best to kill our energy industry.
"You have kicked back hundreds of billions of dollars to corporate and union thieves."
..."What are we to debate about?"
Kingofthenet| 12.2.11 @ 12:43PM
Mr.President, first thing I am gonna do when elected is to cut three Cabinet Dept's.... Shucks what were they? DEP?
Ken (Old Texican)| 12.2.11 @ 1:27PM
Ass of the net,
you lose your train of thought every day here. Get a life.
Scott| 12.2.11 @ 3:10PM
Ken, give it up man. Perry is buried and dead at this point. Last poll I saw had him at 4%. Ron Paul has a better chance at the nomination (none) than Perry does at rising from the dead.
Alleena| 12.2.11 @ 6:35PM
That's just your opinion. When it comes to Rick Perry, most Conservatives are good little sheeple. They swallow whole everything the msm says. I live in Texas, and Rick Perry has a strong Conservative record. But that doesn't matter. In fact, you don't seem to care.
loulou| 12.2.11 @ 7:50PM
Actually, I'm starting to reevaluate Perry. If Cain drops out I'm going with Perry. Never Mitt or Newt.
canuckistani| 12.2.11 @ 4:21PM
Last time I checked, amigo, the price of NG is at a 12 year low. Pretty fracking unbelieveable.
It is so low that the majors have scaled back prospecting...you know the job creators.
Careful what you wish for.
chuck| 12.4.11 @ 9:11AM
"Last time I checked, amigo, the price of NG is at a 12 year low. Pretty fracking unbelieveable."
Imagine what we could do to the price of gasoline if the oil companies could actually explore and develop new sources!
Trish| 12.2.11 @ 11:56PM
I am rethinking Perry.
Ernie | 12.2.11 @ 12:46PM
This article continues to repeat and accept as true completely unsupported allegations. I suggest before you continue to defame his character that you produce some evidencd...where is any photo, receipt, gift, or anything to support the lies of these women. Bill Clinton had a blue dress...produce a "dress" or shut up. No sir, what you will see Monday is a re-energized Cain who will prove his character is unblemished.
Ken (Old Texican)| 12.2.11 @ 1:29PM
Ernie, I dismissed the allegations against Mr. Cain upon reciept. What I cannot dismiss is his responses to the allegations.
Margie| 12.2.11 @ 8:26PM
"What I cannot dismiss is his response to the allegations."
What a shallow, lying reprobate you are. You threw your lot in with the rest of them and you know it, by so doing.
Shame on you!
So someone's response is what does it for you? No, it isn't that at all, dishonest man. It is the fact that Cain just isn't your man.
And by the way, liar: Where's that "evidence" you claimed you had against me in the form of e mails you so brazenly proclaimed you had to "prove it?"
To prove what? To prove your disgusting filthy lies against me~ the filthy lie that I supposedly had a thing for you and wanted to cheat on my husband!
LOL~ you are a joke. And it is clear that you are nothing but a lowlife ego-maniac who is willing to trash anyone who dares to disagree with you or crosses you~ including Herman Cain.
Shame on you!
Scott| 12.2.11 @ 3:08PM
Keep smoking whatever it is you got there...heck, Cain already admitted that he's been supporting this woman financially for years...but only out of "friendship". Ernie, please don't tell me you are gullible enough to believe that.
Natalie| 12.2.11 @ 1:31PM
The fact that Obama did not go through the scrutiny of our politics during his campaign is to me far scarier than what the candidates are going through now. The fact that Obama not only got a two-fer but far beyond that tells a lot about the "scrutiny" of our politics.
Liz| 12.2.11 @ 1:54PM
Cain's Achilles heel is his attempt to explain his relationship with the woman as her "being a friend [he] was helping out financially'. For 13 years. Without telling his wife.
I don't think he has a snowball's chance of digging himself out of the pit now.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 2:55PM
Cain has a long track record of helping others in need. This is an example of "No good deed goes unpunished."
David March| 12.2.11 @ 2:05PM
Cain didnt lose because of some sort of because of his supposed affairs.
He lost when it became pretty apparent that he wasnt going to take the time to learn about things. He lost my support when he had the one on one debate with Gingrich. He punted every question to Newt!
People believed Cain would surround himself with the experts who could help him out. When it became apparent over time that he wasnt going to take the time to learn about the things he did not know about, he went off the radar.
martin j smith| 12.2.11 @ 2:21PM
Cain will decide what to do about his campaign not based on his true merits as a candidate but on smears. He might not be the candidate but let it be on merits. or lack of.
The real issue is this: Cain is not Establishment.
And he is a threat to both the Republican establishment and the Socialists. Obama himself is and has been protected both by the MSM and Establishment Republicans. If voters took a look at Obama's background and associations current and past in depth they would demand his resignation. They would never have voted for him. But we have Crony Capitalism here and so the very same people that hate the Tea Party in the Republican Party are the same that have voted for Obama by supporting John McCain. A true loser. Oh and btw GWB also contributed to loses as well.
Scott| 12.2.11 @ 3:07PM
Another delusional conspiracy theorist I see....pretty sure everybody knows all about Obozo's background. The reality is that no one cares, not that there is some MSM conspiracy to keep the truth hidden.
Simon Templar| 12.3.11 @ 1:27AM
That really is a laughable response to Martin. Man, where do I start? Delusional conspiracy? You are either a complete idiot or a arrogant liar.
You actually have the nerve to write that the MSM did not bury Obama's background and associations during his campaign. Frig'n McCain refused to talk about them! The jerk refused to call him a socialist or recognize any of his radical associations and positions. What world have you been living in these past 4 years? Hannity broke the story and carried it while the MSM largely ignored it.
RCV| 12.2.11 @ 3:21PM
People didn't make up the fact that he's been sending money to this woman "friend" for years without his wife's knowledge, or spending hours on the phone with her in the middle of the night. Like Weiner and Bill Clinton, Cain has nobody to blame but his own wandering self. The only ironic thing is that the beneficiary of his exposure is Mr. Family Values himself, Newt "I never met a graduate student who wasn't better than my present wife" Gingrich.
Inductive| 12.2.11 @ 5:31PM
RCV, do we really know about hours on the phone in the middle of the night? Do we? Is this a tangible fact? (I'm not asking for you to produce the Bell South phone records with minutes charged, I'm asking for something that is 1) fact, 2) fact that would say that he wasn't, say, talking her out of committing suicide for the 3rd of 4th lame attempt at 'sympathy' on her part.
You laugh, but that might well be the kind of loose dingdong she is. Ditto for Gloria Allred's client from whom we've heard zero for three weeks.
He's a fat old nearly man with spectacles. She's an ugly piece of fat, grotesque flesh. It's hard to see any chemistry or fireworks (referencing Ginger White) even for sitting together and giggling over stale pizza in a big metropolitan hotel suite.
C'mon women here: Post up on this question: "Do you see any manly or sexual attraction to Herman Cain?" (And, sorry, being the NRA Grand PuBa isn't like being the Boeing, DuPont, GE, General Dynamics, or even Kraft Foods CEO.)
But what do I know.
Margie| 12.4.11 @ 2:17PM
This woman claims they went to a boxing fight before the time period in which she herself claimed they even met.
She's a fraud.
"He who is faithful in a very little is faithful also in much; and he who is dishonest in a very little is dishonest also in much." Lk. 16:10.
Defenz Engr| 12.2.11 @ 5:11PM
'The real issue is this: Cain is not establishment."
No, the real issue is that Cain is out of his depth. Every candidate on the right has to be prepared for slimeball tactics from the left. The left tried to get Justice Thomas on bimbo charges, but they couldn't. They tried to get MCain, with a NY Times bimbo bomb, but they couldn't. (McCain got himself with his idiotic campaign suspension). Of course the left has thrown everything at Palin, and they haven't really sunk her. She would still be a viable candidate if she wanted to run.
But Cain was done from the first assault because he handled it badly. He has handled every allegation poorly and looks like a rank amatuer. How could you run for the highest office on the planet against the Chicago Thug Machine and not be totally prepared to deflect mud?
Herman shouldn't drop out. He should hang in there and take one on the chin for the party and his supporters. He's a tough guy and he can take it. He's not going to win, but he could be a valuable asset supporting the eventual candidate and could be a potential cabinet selection.
There is absolutely no definitive proof that he had affairs with any of these women, but his fumbling responses reveal that he's not ready for prime time. We've been down that road with Carter and the New Messiah. The results have been disastrous for us all.
somnolence| 12.2.11 @ 3:03PM
The final Electoral Map will not be kind to Newt Gingrich. With the exception of a few states from the last time around it will be the demise of another old, white-haired wizened Washington hand instead of someone with vast business acumen who knows how to turn failure into profitability. And even Romney has a clear edge on Gingrich there.
chuck| 12.4.11 @ 9:17AM
The polls show Obama losing to any Republican candidate. Plus, the pollsters failed to change there sampling percentage based on party identification. They continue to use 40% democrat, when the actual number is now in the low 30's. Take this into account, and Obama is in real trouble, like Jimmy Carter trouble.
Frank| 12.2.11 @ 3:09PM
Hey, there is proof Cain is a serial adulterer and with white women, the double whammy for him. Yes there was a high tech (tech messages) lynching and Cain provided the rope. The man had Chutzpah having an ongoing affair in the midst of an election cycle.
Jane| 12.2.11 @ 3:13PM
This is sad, I like Cain and was willing to vote for him. My man is John Huntsman and what a man he is. If Huntsman can't win the Republican nomination I hope he runs on another ticket. No matter what I will vote for him as a write in if necessary.
John H | 12.2.11 @ 3:46PM
Thanks Jane. I've been helping you out all these years and I appreciate your support. I'm also glad you didn't claim to be my ho' like those others did to Herman. You know I was only poking fun.
Raving Rabbi| 12.2.11 @ 3:21PM
Let's see if Gloria just rails - or de-rails.
"The problem with the Cain Train is that there's too much steam on the windows, and too little in the engine." (Mark from Boston, caller to the Dennis Miller show)
If Herman manages to convince Gloria that he has been helping a struggling woman financially for 13 years without telling her or taking it as a tax deduction, but there has been no hanky-panky - it will give great hope to many married men the world over!
More likely, too many women have made the Godfather Man an offer he couldn't refuse...
Now, Herman, if the boot hits your eye, like a big pizza pie, it's no more, ay?
claudia Monteverdi| 12.2.11 @ 3:50PM
Dear Jay,
This column ranks with the Gettysburgh Adress, The Sermon on the Mount and my letters home for more dough in it's miraculous verbal manipulations and exact explanation and conclusion...JAY FOR PRESIDENT..you have my several votes for sure!
Let's pretend that the Cretin Chorus of mucky letter writers is of little matter..no need to pretend..it is not....Let's accept as holy writ every one of your shiny little words...and I do..forget all of that..forget raunchy jerk Cain, gangrenous Gingrish, troglodyte Paul..and even Nice Guy Perry..who is yards aove the prior mentioned though in way over his head....toss Huntsman to his admirers at the DNC...what is left are three valid, excellent folks...Romney, Bachman and Santorum....and, wake up all you putzes..only one WINNER...Governor Romney...the alternative is a four year reign of terror with Obama as Robespierre..that what you want? Did I say PUTZES? (must be a better word to describe such wanton stupidity!
Now Jay, thius is for you personally...You have crafted one paragraph and an epilogue which deserve Hall of Fame recognition..and I quote "........The question which leaves some pundits scratching their heads is why Newt should be picking up Herman's steam. After all, Newt has been known to adulterate his own views from time to time. If Cain has to be Mister Clean, why does Gingrich suddenly have stigmata instead of stigma?...."
MAGIFICENT!
and the coda is merely beyond belief great:
"........And as for what Gloria will say this weekend, I think we can safely predict that Herman will seek transit on Monday....
One bad problem Amigo Mio, thou castest thy pearls before swine....
Bravissimo Jay
MUAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Claudia
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 12.2.11 @ 4:51PM
Jay, this loon is praising you. This should be all the evidence you need to start re-thinking your assertions placed on Herman Cain.
Margie| 12.2.11 @ 8:31PM
Methinks Claudia is high.
rtl| 12.3.11 @ 3:35PM
Jay and Claudi are an item and have been for, well, already about 4 or 5 blog posts. (translation: About 44 second of intense relationship)
Means the the Spectator sponsors ought to be enraged at Homnick's infidelities and the Spectator management needs to kick Jay to the curb.
There, the allegation has been made and has its merits as an allegation!
This latest homily from Claudia praising Jay cements the depths of their relationship; it is there for all of us to see -- and pass our sanctimonious judgement.
Margie| 12.3.11 @ 7:49PM
Always the double standard for Liberals.
martin j smith| 12.2.11 @ 4:36PM
Obama was elected with a free pass and even Republicans aided and abetted this. Now I do not blame most voters from feelijg we have enough this nonsense, yet--yet they still give Obama a free pass.
Now Cain may or may not have done these naughty things. He might be under pressure from the Republican Leadershit to get out. A fair possibility or he might have been a naughty boy--who knows.
But I do not recall any big deal made by the likes of Republican Leaders about many "naughty things" in Obama's resume. None.
Two wrongs do not make a right--but lets be a little consistent shall we. ?
Moving on to the BIG PICTURE: We need a candidate to survive the "gotcha" brigade whether from FOX NEWS or POLITICO or wherever and who can win this damn election and
also a general defeat of Socialists if we are survive.
Thus: Tea Party and Establishment do not have to love one another but at least find a way of working together else we are dead as a nation.
Sean| 12.2.11 @ 4:52PM
I think Cain needs a smoke after all those women.
BackToBasics| 12.2.11 @ 5:16PM
I believe Cain is telling the truth. I get the impression that he's a nice guy who would talk to anyone within his rather large circle, high or low, including women with little or no class.
Why is it that EVERY woman so far is one that met Cain when he was CEO of the National Restaurant Association (NRA)? Some have posted links to websites linking NRA with SEIU and other leftist organizations.
I do not think so many conservatives bailed on Cain because the wouldn't "spot" him 2 weaknesses Homnick mentiones, political inexperience and worry about personal life. I think they turned away from him because he was not as smooth as most politicians in handling the questions about it after and I do not think this implied guilt on his part, just inexperience and that he may not have told his wife everything about financially helping others.
But so far we here this sort from those who back Establishment Candidates:
Huntsman - he's a winner
Perry - he's a winner
Romney - he's a winner
Christy- he's a winner.
Gingrich - A winner after all
But Cain, Bachman, Santorum or Paul - All losers. I'll stay with Cain who still retains all the strengths he had when he was on top in the polls, unless he decides to withdraw which is his decision.
Yevgenni| 12.3.11 @ 12:32AM
BacktoBasics, you make a good point. If Herman Cain is a serial womanizer, then where are women jumping in for their 15 minutes from his neighborhood, his gym (scratch that, I don't think he bothers with this), his former schools, his previous jobs? How about a woman who has been working on his campaign for the last 7 or 8 months? No women from the Federal Reserve Kansas City time period?
Smells fishy....
BTW - Gloria Allred.....where are you? Silence from loudmouth, pug-faced Gloria, eh? Means her client and case are... non existent.
BackToBasics| 12.3.11 @ 3:08AM
Yevgenni, your added specifics strengthens my point about only NRA women coming forward with false accusations.
A good percentage of Republican voters are so nervous that Obam will get reelected that they will abandon a candidate at the first sign of trouble and latch on to a new candidate in haste.
Obam is beatable by almost any of the current candidates. If the Republicans who are changing their minds so often would BELIEVE this, they wouldn't be so quick to change their minds every few weeks.
And after the way a second group, Establishment Republicans, dumped on Cain from the beginning, they can forget about ever making meaningful inroads into the black community. As I mentioned in a post a couple days ago, the attacks on him from even rank-and-file RINO's and Establishment types was just as ugly and visceral as any attacks that would come from Democrats or leftists.
Yevgenni| 12.3.11 @ 3:28PM
It is peculiar in the extreme that guys like Arnold Schwarzenegger and get softer treatment than what is being afforded Herman Cain.
We've really lost an opportunity here. I agree with you, BacktoB., we've so allowed Herman to be pummelled that it will be a long, long time before another conservative values black man steps forward.
Nobody for second should think that Huntsman, Romney, and maybe even Santorum don't have a daliance or two out there, a somewhat racy text or email, a voice message that was just a bit "out of bounds" for a married man of 40 or 45 or 50 to be making.
Half of the professional people you work with today are members of the opposite sex/gender. In some vocations, it can be lopsided where 65% of one's coworkers are
There's always going to be a bit of flirting, even when unintended. And good men say to themselves, "Whoa, step back. That was uncalled for." (simultaneously, the woman is thinking the same, realizing her part in the verbal flirt was unnecessary)
Everyone acting all prissy and lily-white, no fault, blameless around Herman is so hypocritical. 75% of folks in bigtime politics are serial "flirters." (big variances in degrees of the 'flirting')
Doesn't Joe Biden do this right in front of audiences?
Listen to the tapes of Joe Biden flirting with new Senator's daughters at their new Senator swearing in session in January 2011. January 3, 2011. (I think that this is the date) These video clips with audio are available and were highlighted here at ASO at the time.
The flirting that Joe did with the daughters is uncalled for. He remains our VP.
This is all absurd.
BTW: Ike Eisenhower and his female driver/cheauffer during his London phase of World War II?
BackToBasics| 12.3.11 @ 5:03PM
Well said, I agree Yevegnni. What we've lost today is a true outsider who had the intelligence, logic and and discipline of an engineer accompanied with a healing spark when he spoke and a warm smile. These last 2 assets are worth much more than policy wonks and those who love them know or understand. A good and healing personality doesn't totally replace policy but he's conservative enough and would have stayed on course as much as is allowed in our checks-and-balances system.
Gone too is a role model for young blacks and any young person for that matter. Most black people have never even heard of him yet; and this is no doubt the way Democrats and even Reublican Establishment and RINOs wanted to keep it.
A good man has been tossed aside by an electorate too ill-informed and nervous with some and too racist or power-hungry with others to see the many positives he was bringing to the campaign.
BackToBasics| 12.3.11 @ 3:15AM
About Huntsman, I know most of the support for him comes from Democrats and the leftist Media, but they are part of the Establishment too. But there are enough Northeast Republicans that will think he's tops that I included him. RINOs and the Republican Establishment would pick Huntsman any day over Cain.
I was at a car service shop in November and browsed a "Time" magazine dated June 6 that was on a table there. A Democrat strategist wrote in that issue that either Romney, Pawlenty or Huntsman was SURE to win the Republican nomination.
Wayne| 12.2.11 @ 5:29PM
"The scrutiny of our politics is relentless", sorry man, there was NO media scrutiny on Obama, except maybe for a few conservative journalists. Even the GOP was caught sleeping.
I understand that we had unsubstantiated charges of Obama infidelities ... with men. But it was never brought up, yet we have unsubstantiated charges against Cane, and the GOP media wants to throw him under the bus.
Wonder why we are both cynical of politics and the media ... and that includes the electronic media.
Dan Mathewson| 12.2.11 @ 5:40PM
Can't wait to see what POST American has to say about this.
gary siebel| 12.2.11 @ 5:52PM
Hmmm... In regards to Hermie, I believe my question a few weeks ago was, "How many affairs has he had?" (Which someone not-quite-a-saint belittled with, "Is that all you got?")
In some ways I feel sorry for the evangelicals because of their incredible vulnerability to Cain's type of voice. I have seen it happen again and again, from Jimmy Swaggart to ... well, the list is too long to enumerate. They just swoon for it, and now, because they can't vote for a Mormon, they are actually going to hold their nose and go with the grinnin' Grinch.
Frying pan to the fire! Grinch was screwing around on the public dime while he was trying to impeach Clinton for screwing around on the public dime. I am beginning to suspect the reason big Bill has not already delivered an appropriate blast or two is because the Dems also want the Grinch, and are holding fire in hopes he gets the nod.
Don't let Obama's low poll numbers fool you. In America, there is no criminal lass, except Congress.
rtl| 12.3.11 @ 12:37AM
Big Bill has not already delivered an appropriate blast because Big Bill is getting ready to big die. STDs, late nites, carroosin' and liquor have a way of catching up to a man. Lying also has its end-game. One reaps what one sows. Bill reaps ignomy. Good riddance.
somnolence| 12.2.11 @ 7:09PM
In so many ways, and in many opinions on this page the GOP is once again proving its mettle as the STUPID PARTY.
Trish| 12.2.11 @ 7:28PM
His story doesn't pass the smell test with me. Wonder if it will pass with democrat Gloria Cain?
BTW, Big Mama Obama has been more first lady democrat than I can stomach.
POST American| 12.2.11 @ 9:48PM
---EVEN putting ROT-child 'FED' front op
HER--MAN CAIN aside for a moment--
"Newt Gingrich is a full-blown, ON RECORD
eugenist and ILLUMINATI, out for ending
the family and American sovereignty.
He is PURE EVIL. Barack Obama is even
preferable."
-ALEX JONES
(yesterday)
---------------------------TRUE!--------------------------
somnolence| 12.2.11 @ 11:15PM
I avoid listening to Alex Jones, but I agree with him on Gingrich. More than once in this magazine I have seen the description "statist" applied to Gingrich. That is a very apt identification. Bravo to Quin Hilyer for challenging Gingrich on the debate issue BTW.
Mistral| 12.3.11 @ 2:38AM
Ron Paul stands out as the only reasonable candidate. If the Republicans are not careful Mr Hussien Obama will be elected by default.
imardmd1| 12.3.11 @ 2:55AM
Re Homick's punability on "Her Man Cain't" -- I got the "sic transit gloria mundi" part -- what happened to the "caveat emptor" finis???
JimH| 12.3.11 @ 9:05AM
I have nothing against the man and I was hopeful when he moved up in the polls, But I am starting to think that there be some skeletons in Cain's closet. He discounted the possibility of these coming to light because originally he was running more to promote himself and his book rather than in expectation of winning. His unforeseen success left him unprepared. This can be seen in a number of ways such as the lack or organization and professionalism in his campaign. If what he says is true, that he provided the latest women to come forward with money over a period of years without telling his wife about it, it shows a considerable lack of judgement.
Zak Klemmer| 12.3.11 @ 1:12PM
How many women did JFK bed:
A. Before he became President?
B. After he became President?
C. Is America a nation of puritanical hypocrites?
BackToBasics| 12.3.11 @ 5:04PM
Mr. Cain,
Thank you for running this year. I wish you well and hope you will continue lend your considerable assets to the betterment of our nation.
BackToBasics
somnolence| 12.3.11 @ 7:11PM
This Cain supporter now wishes the dream team to be: ROMNEY/BACHMANN FOR 2012.
Zak Klemmer| 12.3.11 @ 7:18PM
Romney and McCain are two examples of what I hate about politics.
Margie| 12.3.11 @ 7:56PM
Well well well. All you stinking phony Liberals got what you wanted. Herman Cain has dropped out of the race for President.
You all will reap what you've sown.. maybe not in this life, but in the next for sure.
The one where after you die you wake up on the other side, of Eternity.
Heaven for the righteous, like probably Herman Cain. Hell for the liars.
Lotsa luck.
RCV| 12.3.11 @ 10:15PM
Conservatives have nobody to blame but themselves for the state the GOP race is in today. They've spent the last four months appearing before hostile moderators throwing mud at each other instead of presenting programs and focusing their fire at the opposition. They've reaped what they themselves have sown.
RCV| 12.4.11 @ 8:34PM
And now the guns will turn on Gingrich. Senator Tom Coburn said that when he served under Gingrich in the House, he saw "a lack of leadership abilities."
"I'm not sure I could support him for President," Coburn said today.
The GOP is a self-destructive party.
Margie| 12.4.11 @ 11:20PM
Well, at this rate, we may as well get ready for either Obama II or Ron Paul.
I was just asking my husband the question~ what's the difference? You tell me the difference!
Obama is anti-Israel, so's R. Paul.
Obama is anti-war, so's R. Paul.
Obama cannot stand Conservatives, neither can R. Paul~ we're just a bunch of moronic Neo-cons.
But even Obama didn't seek to legalize Dope~ but R. Paul probably would.
I may as well vote for Obama!
Margie| 12.4.11 @ 11:27PM
That is, if it comes to that. If it comes to that R. Paul's the Repub. nominee.
I'm still praying that he won't be. God's Will be done.
And as to your comment about Conservatives and it being their fault~ Conservatives had nothing to do with the lynching of Herman Cain~ that's the fault of the liars in the MEdia~ and phony Conservatives who were their partners in crime.
Having said what I''ve said, I still say this: Stay tuned~ it ain't over till it's over.
ReasonableViews | 12.3.11 @ 9:44PM
Gloria? Seriously?
Look, Herman Cain seems like a genuinely good man who has flaws like everyone else. I hope that his legacy will be positive. Certainly he taught future candidates that campaigns can be run differently and still succeed. He used free publicity very successfully, and he demonstrated the potential for campaigning nationally instead of just in Iowa. http://bit.ly/v6IWnG
thesquareglobe| 12.4.11 @ 7:35AM
I still wish we knew who leaked the original story to Politco...
chuck| 12.4.11 @ 9:25AM
Romney, no doubt whatsoever.
Boortz asked Matt Towery this question on Friday. Without any hesitation, his answer was Romney, no doubt, know it for a fact.
FYI, Matt Towery is a pollster with Insider Advantage, well known in Georgia politics, goes way back with Newt and Herman, did polling for Politico last election, and is doing polling for Fox news now. He is certainly in a position to know.
RCV| 12.4.11 @ 9:40AM
If it was Romney, it sure backfired. Gingrich's ascendancy is entirely attributable to defections from Cain over the allegations.
Republicans are going to tarnish every one of their candidates until that idiot Ron Paul is the only one left standing.
chuck| 12.4.11 @ 11:46AM
It seemed odd to me too that Romney was behind the leak, but Towery was 100% sure, no doubt. He said that for some reason Romney wanted Cain out of the way. I guess he saw him as a real threat to his nomination. I guess he thinks he can do the same to Newt, but really, what isn't out about Newt? And as Towery said, Newt doesn't give a damn what people say. He'll just go on the attack, which will play well with the base.
Clint| 12.4.11 @ 10:55AM
The ObamaBoy Israel Firster RCV Is Scared Of The Tea Party And Our Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr. Ron Paul.
Maybe Obama Will Run For Prime Minister Of Israel After We Tea Party Patriots Throw His Alinsky Ass Out Of The United States.
" In just a year, Jewish Israelis’ opinion of President Barack Obama has turned on its head, according to a new Saban Center for Middle East Policy poll.
A majority, or 54 percent, now say they have a favorable view of the U.S. president — a year ago, just 41 percent of those polled viewed Obama in a positive light."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here And In Iowa.
Oldefarte| 12.4.11 @ 11:00AM
Cain was CHICAGO WAYED by the Democrats and their MSM facilitators that now control our country, make no mistake about it. No fellow Republican candidate or their campaigns had absolutely anything to do with this sleezy, dispicable, gutter type political maneuverings that resulted in Cain's being shamed into calling it quits. As Trump I believe has recently indicated, this country has now one chance left[and that is on 11/4/12] to either sink or swim, survive or die. I hope that we are intelligent enough to understand this and to act according to our best self-interests on that upcoming date!!!!!!!!!
chuck| 12.4.11 @ 11:50AM
Why would Obama use it now though? Why not wait until Cain had the nomination, then 2 months from the general election, let it loose? Destroy the nominee then, and he is back in to finish the destruction of the country.
Matt Towery had no doubt, 100%, knew it for a fact. Romney!
Margie| 12.4.11 @ 2:08PM
OF,
I don't know if a Republican candidate had anything to do with it but I do know that plenty of so-called conservative writers both here and along with some of our own "pals" took part in it, hoping for his demise so to speak.
And that makes them no different than the MSM.
somnolence| 12.4.11 @ 3:29PM
PPP has Gingrich winning a pitiful total of 76 electoral votes. Don't take my word for it, smart people, look it up. Romney at least is 256-256.
somnolence| 12.4.11 @ 3:30PM
Main difference between now and Carter and 1980 is no Ronald Reagan on the horizon, and Gingrich, oh boy, is far from Mt. Rushmore material.
AVCurmudgeon| 12.4.11 @ 5:14PM
Conservative prospects are diminished with Mr Cain's departure. Between the liberal MSM and the self-serving GOP elite, there really is no room in the party for anyone to the right of Romrich.
And Jay, I've been waiting since my college days to see if anyone could ever do a pun on "sic transit gloria mundi." Kudos.
Margie| 12.4.11 @ 11:14PM
As to your first paragraph: at this rate we're going to elect Ron Paul.
I just saw on Drudge, he's in 2nd place in Iowa.
Hey, the doofuses got rid of Herman Cain, possibly the best man for the job, a true conservative who loves this country, knows what it'd take to get us back on track AND on top~ ya know, American exceptionalism and all that patriotic stuff the Paul-bots so despise.
What utter short-sightedness, what utter foolery that they can't even see it. Their utter selfishness, stupidity and hatred blinding them so horribly, that all they could see was that Herman Cain wasn't their man~ so they destroy him, or take part in destroying him.
And now Ron Paul, the anti-American, anti-Israel, anti-war, legalize dope and everything else is in second place!
Thanks people. I guess it's really come to that. How freaking sad.
imardmd1| 12.5.11 @ 1:59PM
Good for you on the Latin pun -- most people didn't even get the English one -- "HerMan Cain ('t = not)". He couldn't, only surplus of naivete would ever let him take an entry-level office-holder above dogcatcher. Clearly he doesn't even care about prudence and a good name, let alone let a handshake seal a deal. Apparently his hands were in the wrong place at the wrong time. No wonder even his wife doesn't follow his lead.
chaussures air max | 12.5.11 @ 1:48AM
up...
SUSEYQUE| 12.5.11 @ 10:31AM
Cain's a hotdog... He likes to show-off and get attention...when he really should disappear for awhile. What hubris!
imardmd1| 12.5.11 @ 1:43PM
Why do we favor a phoney like this? As an orator, in government experience, morality, or sterling manly qualities, Cain and several other Republicans wouldn't make a patch on Alan Keyes' pants. I guess people fit for the job are just not wanted. We don't need just someone who wants to debate about running for President. What we need is a veritable leader who will tackle the problem and say, "Who's going to battle with me -- no more debates -- stand up now, and let's roll!"
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What utter short-sightedness, what utter foolery that they can't even see it. Their utter selfishness, stupidity and hatred blinding them so horribly, that all they could see was that Herman Cain wasn't their man~ so they destroy him, or take part in destroying him.