The American Spectator : Is Newt Gingrich America's Churchill?

Shamus| 11.15.11 @ 7:02AM

Gingrich may not be electable. He's working harder to connect with voters, but he still comes off as cold at some level. If voters can get over this, then my guess is he'd be a good president.

Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 8:11AM

Voters will never get over Newt and all his problems and lies. The Democrats won't let them. He couldn't be elected dog catcher in Georgia or any other part of the USA. One good thing about a Gingrich Nomination is that is would finally lead to a new, vialble 3rd party. No rabid warmonger, chickenhawk will ever be elected President again. Obama awill be running as the guy who got Bin Laden and is bringing our troops home. Of course we all know that is a lie.but sure is a lot better then a couple chickenhawks like Romney and Gingrich calling for endless wars and endless bailouts.

The Neocons are the grave diggers of the Republican Party. The Party and the conservative movement can never recover until these guys are kicked out. Let them go back to the Democrats, and Trotskyite Communists from which they came.

Simon Templar| 11.15.11 @ 9:38AM

Neither will you. You will keep slandering him along with your cousin liberals.

Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 1:44PM

Simon: I will keep telling the truth about Gingrich until he is a rotting in his grave. He is symbol no1 of what is wrong with the Republican party.

Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 2:34PM

The Paul campaign has just released quotes from Gingrich in which he forthrightly condemns torture as a tactic. Newt is worse flip flopper then even Romney. The book on old Newt is three feet thick and full of so many contradictions that the Democrats will have fun picking them apart everyday. Newt has been an inconsistant blabber mouth his whole career. He never leaned the old saying. It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, then to open it and prove it.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 3:19PM

If we supported REAL torture Jack, we'd send you to Afghanistan to bore the Taliban to death...

florin| 11.15.11 @ 5:53PM

Don't ever use gingrich's name along side Winston Churchill...gingrich has an enormous ego already - what are you trying to do???? He's a shameless self-promoter, uses women for his own pleasure and purposes and then discards them for a newer model. Who knows how long his former mistress/current wife will last? She can't look like a barbie doll for long...gingrich is not a conservative and despises anyone who does not kneel to his supposed brilliance...people keep saying over and over 'he's the smartest man in the room' = what room? He has a lot of talking points because he's been studying all his life to become president...not going to happen. We have wonderful young men and women of good character and intelligence...why would anyone want an old has been? Gingrich supports whoever makes him look good...he cozies up to Pelosi and Gore just to keep his face forefront...he viciously attacks conservatives who don't agree with him...the left wing media desperately wants Gingrich to be the nominee because they know he has no chance of beating Obama...we want Obama out but we don't want newt in...please~!!!!

Seek| 11.15.11 @ 6:44PM

Newt has been happily married to same woman for a good decade. And he plans to stay married to her. Yes, he's been through two divorces. So what? Rush Limbaugh has been through three, and I don't hear anyone yapping about Rush's "baggage."

As for ego, you don't think Churchill had one? Read your history books. Newt has his shortcomings -- he's way too soft on immigration, for example -- but he's got a lot to recommend him as well.

Paglia guy| 11.17.11 @ 3:26PM

Exactly right, seek. And Florin, you're mispelling your name, there should be a "d" at the end.

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 12:21PM

Florin says: Gingrich "viciously attacks conservatives..."

Can you cite any instances?

He certainly is acknowledged NOT to have taken the bait of liberal media "moderators", who have spun their questions to foment candidate attacks on other
candidates.

florin| 11.15.11 @ 5:53PM

Don't ever use gingrich's name along side Winston Churchill...gingrich has an enormous ego already - what are you trying to do???? He's a shameless self-promoter, uses women for his own pleasure and purposes and then discards them for a newer model. Who knows how long his former mistress/current wife will last? She can't look like a barbie doll for long...gingrich is not a conservative and despises anyone who does not kneel to his supposed brilliance...people keep saying over and over 'he's the smartest man in the room' = what room? He has a lot of talking points because he's been studying all his life to become president...not going to happen. We have wonderful young men and women of good character and intelligence...why would anyone want an old has been? Gingrich supports whoever makes him look good...he cozies up to Pelosi and Gore just to keep his face forefront...he viciously attacks conservatives who don't agree with him...the left wing media desperately wants Gingrich to be the nominee because they know he has no chance of beating Obama...we want Obama out but we don't want newt in...please~!!!!

Quartermaster| 11.15.11 @ 6:20PM

It is highly unlikely Newt will be the nominee. Too much baggage even if you leave aside the fiction the left has concocted about him.

To say Newt is not in the class of Churchill would actually be a compliment. The stupidity of Chamberlain, combined with Churchill's bellicosity, bankrupted the UK and cost them the empire. The hypocrisy of accepting the Soviet Union as an ally when they were part of the conspiracy to partition Poland was utterly unconscionable. That is a permanent stain on the Churchill's memory.

If all Newt has against him is a bit of adultery and three wives, then he'll do well in the comparison with Churchill.

Let's hope we don't get another Neocon POTUS. As it it stands, however, the only choices we have are a moonbat, a gaggle of Neocons and Paul. Paul is at least talking about what really needs doing to FedGov. The rest are just a status quo bunch. heaven help us.

Jack in Wi| 11.17.11 @ 9:37AM

Newt has finally put an end to his shameless career yesterday, when the true picture of the magnitude of the millions he recieved from Fanny Mae and the ethanol subsidies. He has taken down the what little credibility Limbaugh, Hannity, O' Reilly, Fox News, and the rest of th neocons who pushed him, had left.

David March| 11.17.11 @ 2:34PM

You mean he took millions from Freddie Mae? You mean just like then Senator Obama, and then Senator Biden?
Keep up your pipe dreams there Lefty boy. People like you and your buddy David Frum kept telling us the same thing right up until election day 2010, and we all know what happened there to.

Jack in Wi| 11.18.11 @ 12:52AM

I have voted Republican for 12 straight presidential elections. The Washington Post is reporting that Gingrich got 37 million dollars from crony capitalists, since he was thrown out of his speakership. This man is a toxic chemical to the Republican party.

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 12:32PM

Jack, funny you aren't outraged about Dem Jamie
Gorelick's 'bonuses' of $24 million, Dem James Johnson's bonuses of $100 million, Dem Franklin Raines' $94 million from Fannie Mae and Rahm Emmanuel's Board Membership at Freddie Mac, during which time, it tanked. A $1-2 million consulting contract is not even in the same league as the graft and corruption from the decision makers of Fannie and Freddie.

Trish| 11.16.11 @ 12:13AM

florin, I agree with most of your views on Gingrich. However, Sir Winston had an enormous ego also. Don't get me wrong, I consider him to be the greatest world figure of the last century. Besides an enormous ego, he had enormous courage. His sculpture adorns the top shelf on my den wall. One glaring distinction between the two men is in the morals arena. Newt loses hands down. That being said, he would ruin Obombast in debates.

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 12:24PM

Florind:

Say it often enough and even you will begin to believe it.

ANYBODY BUT OBAMA

sliver1935| 12.24.11 @ 5:05AM

Jack in Wi. Oh, I see the Paul campaign just released those quotes. It's not that Paul has a horse in the race, is it? Torture should always be condemned by all God loving Christians. However, did Newt ever claim that water boarding is torture? I don't think so! So by the little isolationist shrimp's "unpartisan" news release, you extrapolate suddenly that Newt must be a socialist and a liar because he condemns torture. How pathetic!

sirbourbon| 11.15.11 @ 9:06PM

A sampling of Gingrich's liberal positions and his shameless teaming up with anti-American establishment types like Nancy Pelosi and Bill Clinton to overthrow the American republic:
1. Gingrich helped garner support to create President Jimmy Carter’s Department of Education in 1979. Educational standards have plummeted. Newt's answer was more funding for the dumbing down of kids department: Gingrich’s Republican Congress increased education funding by $3.5 billion in 1996, the largest single increase in history.

2. Foreign Aid — Gingrich voted numerous times throughout his 20 years in Congress to increase and expand unconstitutional foreign aid and trade. He supported both subsidized trade with the Soviets and federally funded loans to foreign governments through the Export-Import Bank. Between 1994 and 1995, Gingrich voted for $44.8 billion in foreign aid. He also helped push through federally funded loan guarantees to China. China, gthat murderous communist regime is the largest holder of U.S. debt in the world.

3. NAFTA and GATT — In 1993, Gingrich made himself invaluable to Clinton and the Democrats in Congress when he twisted Republican arms to back the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) which contributed to oursourcing and joblessness in America.

Newt stood by the bankers in pushing for the creation of the World Trade Organization (WTO). As Minority Whip, he could have postponed the lame-duck vote on GATT (General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade) that subjected Americans to the WTO.

Gingrich’s Benedict Arnold GATT act helped to hand over the power to regulate foreign commerce, a power reserved in the Constitution to Congress alone, to an internationally controlled body, making America’s economic interests entirely at the mercy of the WTO.

Gingrich said of GATT: “We need to be honest about the fact that we are transferring from the United States at a practical level significant authority to a new organization.... This is not just another trade agreement. This is adopting something which twice, once in the 1940s and once in the 1950s, the U.S. Congress rejected.... It is a very big transfer of power.”

Gingrich’s supported the $30 billion Violent Crime and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that shackled gun owners with new restrictions, federalized a number of crimes, and handed the feds police powers that the Constitution reserves to the states.

Gingrich’s supports abortion and anti-family measures, federal welfare, a presidential line item veto, the National Endowment for the Arts, confiscation of private property, amnesty for illegal immigrants, higher taxes, and a myriad of other unconstitutional legislation.

Futurist
In 1994, Gingrich described himself as “a conservative futurist.” in which the future will embrace abortion, homosexuality, promiscuity, and divorce as perfectly normal, even virtuous. Newt loved Alvin Toffler who penned a letter to America’s “founding parents,” in which he said: “The system of government you fashioned, including the very principles on which you based it, is increasingly obsolete, and hence increasingly, if inadvertently, oppressive and dangerous to our welfare. It must be radically changed and a new system of government invented — a democracy for the 21st century.” He went on to describe our constitutional system as one that “served us so well for so long, and that now must, in its turn, die and be replaced.”

Newt sat down with Pelosi to push more government under the guise of fighting "global warming."

Paglia guy| 11.17.11 @ 3:29PM

Wow, Sir. You should change your user name to "sipbourbon."

CW| 11.15.11 @ 10:29AM

Shamus, you're a shameful idiot.

DTOM| 11.15.11 @ 10:37AM

CW,

You apparently just like to call people names when you disagree with them.

Or do you think "shameful idiot" is complimentary? Maybe it would be for you...

CrackerHound| 11.15.11 @ 1:08PM

I really wish the comments section for any good article in AS was not full of this back and forth about Ron Paul...totally off-topic, "yes he is-no he isn't" BS. I wanted to read opinions on the story and see what others though about Newt.
/rant OFF

idalily| 11.15.11 @ 3:06PM

I agree. Paulbots need to get their own site so we can read intelligent opinions in peace.

WJ| 11.15.11 @ 2:50PM

CW, you are simply an idiot.

Newt is bright but Newt is a huge squirrel. Don't trust and don't count on him.

And he is not electable.

idalily| 11.15.11 @ 3:24PM

I believe your post pretty much illustrates the point of the article.

kate| 11.15.11 @ 12:53PM

Hey Jack
Tough talk saves lives.
You don't need to be a war monger to solve problems. You just need to talk like one.
The rhetoric may not match the actual plan.
Remember the Iranians released hostages on the day of Regan's inauguration, because they feared what MIGHT happen.

Locavore| 11.15.11 @ 3:05PM

The badass bikers tell me that loud pipes save lives. BRRAAAAPPPP. 'scuse me.

Cpm| 11.16.11 @ 11:26AM

You are really beginning to sound desperate, cheesehead.

Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 8:37AM

Ron Paul is tied in Iowa in a four way race . Romney, Paul, Cain, and Gingrich are in a statistical tie. The supporters of Ron Paul are by far the fervent in their support. As I have said for months Ron Paul will either win or come in second in both Iowa and New Hampshire. Ron and his son Rand will soon be running as a team to restore America. They will roll to the nomination. Their campaign theme will be.

Ron and Rand for Peace, Prosperity and Liberty.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 9:30AM

"I know more about history and current events then anyone on this site including the editors. You Dr. Wrong are a dunce on all subjects. I live by the word the truth will set you free. I say to you liar, liar, pants on fire."

His words carry so little weight, if you were to hear them, your head would float away.

He knows so much history, he taught Herodotus everything.

He & Ron Paul know for certain what one hand clapping sounds like.

He is... THE MOST INSIPID MAN IN THE WORLD!

"I don't always engage in ass showing self aggradizement, but when I do, I prefer to do it on Am Spec. STAY STUPID, MY FRIENDS!"

Occam's Tool| 11.15.11 @ 11:36AM

Con: Paul of course is in 5-7 percent land.

Gingrich is interesting. Recall that Churchill was frequently wrong on issues (Gallipolli being the worst, of course) and quite embarrassing at times. His personal life, of course, compared to Newt, was impeccable with regards to his marriages, but he was thought to be a drunk.

Newt has always been open to reason, and the man can think. (And how can writing counter-factual historical novels, exploring deep details of history, be considered a subject of ridicule?) I'd be happy with him as my President. For that matter, Con, if you ran, I'd think about you.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 11:39AM

" Ron Paul Polls at 38% in ConservativeHQ.com's GOP Presidential Straw Poll
By Andrew Davis | 11/14/11

Congressman Ron Paul started last week with a commanding lead in ConservativeHQ.com's weekly GOP Presidential Straw Poll, taking more than 40 percent of the votes, which lasted for most of the week. However, Herman Cain, who is under attack in the press for allegations of harrassment, made a weekend push to rally back to 25 percent."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 11:46AM

Clint the Ru Paul Fellatio Tsar Canned Response Number 60.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 12:16PM

Keep deluding yourself...

It'll be that much sweeter when Paul fails.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 1:14PM

GOP Candidates in Four-Way Dead Heat

" Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are in a dead heat as the top choices for Iowans likely to attend the Jan. 3 Republican presidential caucuses.

A Bloomberg News poll shows Cain at 20 percent, Paul at 19 percent, Romney at 18 percent and Gingrich at 17 percent among the likely attendees with the caucuses that start the nominating contests seven weeks away."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

SpiralArchitect| 11.15.11 @ 5:09PM

...of the 537 people polled, right?

kate| 11.15.11 @ 1:03PM

Occam
I don't think Newt is very "nice". But "nice" is not what we need right now.
We need smart and tough. We need a Constitutionalist.

Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 1:41PM

Kate: Then you don't want Newt. Newt loves FDR ,the man who trashed the Constitution every day of his Presidency. Newt is a big government, warmongering, Rockefeller Republican, and always will be. The only man who is tough and a Constitutionalist is the real Dr. of Democracy Ron Paul.

kate| 11.15.11 @ 2:45PM

Thanks Jack
You know, I am pretty on top of things, but I always listen to a heads-up from anyone who cares about my country and the good of man-kind.

At this point things are so discouraging, I may be grasping at straws. I'll do my homework, but I would still like to see him debate Obama.

Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 1:37PM

Occam: Churchill was a masssive flop in most of what he wanted to do in his life. He flopped in a terrible way as first Lord of the Admiralty, in both pushing England into the war with Germany, and at Gallipolli. He was a flop when he ran the Treasury and had to be removed. He was a flop at Narvik in his second term as First Lord. He was a flop in his war goals of saving the British empire and containing Stalin. He broke his country and the world had a 50 year cold war. He was a flop as the leader of the Conservative party who lost the 1945 election in a landslide.He had never been elected and the people wanted hin gone. He did win a slight victory in 1951 when the people were sick to death of the Socialism. He was a flop in that he never reversed anything. He was a flop as a father. He wasn't a bad writer, although like Gingrich he was windy and overblown.

Gingrich is a flop period, and totally unelectable. The puff going on right now is all the result of the neocon media pushing him. Let the chickenhawk, neocon losers and their chickenhawk mouthpieces alike Limbaugh, Hannity and O' Blarney go fight these wars. With the stink of Gingrich's record worse then a pig farm on a hot day he won't get near the Presidency unless Obama, asks him to sit on a couch.

Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 2:18PM

A few more flops for Churchill. As Colonial Secretary he drew the borders of Iraq which have led to 90 years of ethnic turmoil. He also used poison gas droppedfrom airplanes on poor Iraqi tribes people. He thought that gas was a cheap. way to keep these people in line while the British stole their oil. If Saddam Hussian was a monster what was Churchill? He was the first to bomb Berlin. He wanted to enrage Hitler to attack London. It was a good tactic to keep the pro peace party on the defensive. He was an awful person who led his country over the cliff many times It is good that there are a lot more critical studies of his actions coming out. no leaders were more loved by the Jews then Roosevelt, Stalin and Churchill. They got nothing from any of them but fine talk and little action. Place not your faith in men but in the One True God. Shalom.

Brian Mc| 11.15.11 @ 4:06PM

The first to bomb Berlin? Funny, in all my studies of WWII I don't recall that 'fact' of dates jumping off the page at me and slapping me in the face. But, that remark surely did! I suppose I'll need to go back and re-read what I've read to see if Nelson would agree with your odd statement. Now, if I could only find that "Timeline" website.

SpiralArchitect| 11.15.11 @ 5:22PM

+1

chuck| 11.15.11 @ 8:39PM

Wow, the official word is out from the world's foremost authority on everything. Jack the Jew-hater says the Churchill was a total failure. Rewrite the history books, dig up his carcass from whichever honored site it occupies, and dump it in the ocean with Osama.
What a moron.
Does anyone take Jack seriously, besides Jack himself and Clint?
And shove your "shalom" you damned anti-Semite!

chuck| 11.15.11 @ 8:43PM

I think Jack the Jew-hater's problem is that Churchill rallied his country to resist Hitler, and eventually take part in the destruction of Nazi Germany, thus destroy the Fuhrer's dream of wiping out the Jews. Jack just hates that the "final Solution" went unfinished.

Lee Ghume| 11.15.11 @ 3:08PM

Steve Jobs failed a few times early on as did Ronald Reagan. Failure in America is a good learning experience, as long as you pick yourself up and carry on.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 3:13PM

If failure was a virtue, then Jack would be President.

kate| 11.16.11 @ 11:01AM

Lee
Good comment.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 3:12PM

Yeah...right.

Churchill was a failure. Uh-huh.

You know who likes to believe that men like Winston Churchill were failures?

Men who ARE total failures. Like you, Jack.

Trish| 11.16.11 @ 12:19AM

I like to think of Sir Winston as gently self medicated Occam.

CW| 11.15.11 @ 10:31AM

Dream on Jack!

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 12:35PM

So you're going to vote for Obama if anyone other than Ron Paul is the Republican nominee? nice!

C Smith| 11.15.11 @ 11:21AM

Newt the "the adult in the room"?

Newt? The guy who visited his wife in the hospital as she was recovering from cancer surgery to discuss divorce? Wanted to marry the woman he was currently "bedding." This lasted until Newt and Bill found something in common, interns and staffers decades their junior. May America's deliverance arise from another place!

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 12:21PM

Apparently you didn't read the article.

Fool.

kate| 11.15.11 @ 1:24PM

C Smith
That story has been debunked. (The wife story with cancer bit)
Newt does have a huge problem. He went after Clinton on the Lewinsky affair, while he was up to the same.
Americans can forgive mistakes, but hypocrisy is not usually tolerated.

C Smith| 11.15.11 @ 11:02PM

Kate,

“He walked out in the spring of 1980 and I returned to Georgia. By September, I went into the hospital for my third surgery. The two girls came to see me, and said Daddy is downstairs and could he come up? When he got there, he wanted to discuss the terms of the divorce while I was recovering from the surgery.” (Jackie Gingrich, "Washington Post," January 3, 1985).

Newt's daughter’s conveniently timed rebuttal of her mother's testimony bears every earmark of fraud and deception; like father, like daughter I suppose. An honorable father would not have allowed a daughter to compromise her character in this way.

kate| 11.16.11 @ 11:31AM

c smith
While I agree with you, I don't trust anything the WAPO publishes. I'll look into it thoroughly before I vote for him, however.
Character counts.

ElPuma25| 11.17.11 @ 8:22AM

Kate,
"He went after Clinton on the Lewinsky affair, while he was up to the same" is also another liberal fib. As a matter of fact he was silent on it precisely because he was "up to the same" (he had resigned from the speakership by then).

Seek| 11.15.11 @ 6:47PM

When the hell are the goodie two-shoes on this site going to move on already about Gingrich's two divorces? Few people care.

kate| 11.16.11 @ 11:05AM

Seek
I think Newt is smart and would be a fine leader, but I fret about the character issue.
Do we really want a President who is lacking in character?
Character and morals are pretty important when you are making decisions that affect millions of people and their lives.
I'm torn, because we really are in a crisis and brains might win out over past mistakes for me.
Perhaps character is OUR problem and not one of the government?

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 12:38PM

If you read, you would know Gingrich's daughter denounced this lie recently. Her Mom asked for the divorce months before she was hospitalized - and Mom is very much alive today.

Buck Ofama| 11.15.11 @ 1:15PM

What is this silly shit, "may not be electable" supposed to be based on? WAKE UP. We need Newt on that wall.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 1:38PM

You want him on that wall, you NEED him on that wall! These liberals rise and sleep under the very blanket of security he provides and then have the nerve to question the manner in which he provides it. I would rather they just say "thank you", and went on their marry way.

Purpleguy| 11.15.11 @ 7:05PM

How funny, since Obama has not only kept you safe, but has taken out American Enemy #1, Osama Bin Laden. So while Newt's on the "Wall", Obama is keep your a* safe... He's also instigated Qaddafi's removal, some say the Egyptian uprising, preparing the end of the Iraq war and Afghan war next. Saved the country from another Great Depression, saved the Auto Industry, provided for the 99er's unemployed, while adding to the diversity of America with the repeal of DADT. Oh, not to mention near-universal healthcare reform and re-regulation of the financial industry to protect Americans's health and money.

chuck| 11.15.11 @ 8:54PM

9% official unemployment, real unemployment and underemployment about double that. Iran about to obtain nuclear weapons. Military took out Osama, with the help of info obtained by waterboarding. Libya and Egypt are headed for radical muslim governments. $4 trillion dollars in added debt. Health-care reform that 2/3 of the country did not and does not want. Housing is a mess with millions of homes in foreclosure. Dodd-Frank is destroying businesses. Home mortgages are nearly impossible to obtain. Ford did not take the bail-out, and is doing the best of all American car makers. Gitmo still open, time will tell if Iraq and Afghanistan pull-outs occur and the aftermath.
So.......what exactly is Obama going to run on?

Alan Brooks| 11.15.11 @ 8:55PM

Some of these guys are to the right of Attila the Hun. They are sentimental for the land of cotton: ole times there is not forgotten.

Alan Brooks| 11.15.11 @ 8:57PM

"Gitmo still open"

No crocodile tears please, Chuck.

ElPuma25| 11.17.11 @ 8:46AM

Really?
Let's see:
1. He took Osama Bin Laden. Sure, he did well there, with intelligence obtained from water boarding, which he considers torture and stopped once in the presidency.
2. Instigated Qaddafi’s removal. Leading from behind to be sure, effective, no? Except that the people in charge now are Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda types.
3. Instigated Egyptian uprising. Great, he removed a “friendly” dictator and now who’s in charge in Egypt? The Muslim Brotherhood. Do you see a pattern here?
4. He’s preparing the end of the Iraq war and Afghan war next. I can’t give you the first one, the Iraq war was “over” before he became president. Now, the Afghan war…Well, Karzai is now allied with the Taliban, so, how is that exactly safer? Oh and about Iraq, were supposed to leave but still have a military presence in the region. Obama couldn’t even negotiate for our soldier not to be tried as war criminals, so we are tucking our tails and leaving. Who do you think is salivating to take over? Iran anyone?
5. Saved the country for another Great Depression. Really? Is that like the “jobs saved” narrative? When he started in 2009, the unemployment was 7%, he told us that without stimulus package it would go over 8%. Two stimuli later, and we’ve been over 9% or a couple of year now. And don’t start me about that 9%, if we remove all the accounting gimmicks they are using, we really are at 13%.
6. Saved the auto industry. By giving it away to the unions and the Italians. Pray, do you know what cars are keeping the auto industry alive? SUV’s. Yes, exactly what Obama wanted, right?
7. Provided for the 99er’s unemployed. I’m one of them. He provided sh*t. I have spent all my savings to keep my family under a roof.
8. Adding to the diversity of America with the repeal of DADT. How about combat effectiveness? In case you don’t know it, the function of the army is not to provide diversity, but to kill people and break things. Repealing DADT just make their job much more difficult.
9. Near-universal healthcare. “Death-panels” more likely. Soylent Green anyone?

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 6:42PM

Applause for ElPuma25. God bless you and return you to the ranks of the employed.

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 12:42PM

Au contraire, purple guy. Obama has wrought more destruction to the USA in three years in office than the destruction of the World Tade Centers on 9/11.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 3:07PM

"GOP Candidates in Four-Way Dead Heat

Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are in a dead heat as the top choices for Iowans likely to attend the Jan. 3 Republican presidential caucuses.

A Bloomberg News poll shows Cain at 20 percent, Paul at 19 percent, Romney at 18 percent and Gingrich at 17 percent among the likely attendees with the caucuses that start the nominating contests seven weeks away. "

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Alan Brooks| 11.15.11 @ 5:58PM

Churchill did not waste the electorate's time with 'conservative' (not) futurism.

Alan Brooks| 11.15.11 @ 6:02PM

Newt:
"honeymoon's in space will be common by 2020."
maybe he meant 2120, not 2020?

Alan Brooks| 11.15.11 @ 6:04PM

"honeymoons in space will be common by 2020."

Well, perhaps it was a typo, it was supposed to be the year 20200.

kate| 11.16.11 @ 11:20AM

At least he has dreams. If you don't have creativity and dreams of greatness, then nothing happens but despair. Kind of like the last couple of years.

Deborah D | 11.16.11 @ 5:33AM

Thanks for this, Mr. Lord. It's an interesting comparison, especially interesting since Obama took the bust of Churchill out the White House and returned it to (was it the British embassy?) What poetic justice if an American Churchill were to return!:)

Mimi| 11.16.11 @ 8:12AM

Oh DEB...Priceless!

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 7:03AM

" With the intense search for a conservative alternative to Mitt Romney producing popularity “bubbles” for Rick Perry and Herman Cain, “Who’s next?” has been the recurring question. In an ironic twist, the consensus answer seems to be: Newt Gingrich.

I say “ironic” because the opposition to Romney has been led by conservative grassroots writers and activists, as well as groups like FreedomWorks. Gingrich isn’t much more popular among that contingent than Romney. In May, when Gingrich sharply criticized Paul Ryan’s Medicare reform plan, FreedomWorks Chairman Dick Armey reminded National Review that Gingrich had been a serial offender:

Citing Gingrich’s support of Dede Scozzafava in the 2009 congressional election in New York’s 23rd district, his backing of Medicare Part D and TARP, and his commercial with Nancy Pelosi about climate change, Armey observes that “Newt entered the race with serious ground to make up with these 2 million Tea Party activists.”…

Brendan Steinhauser, director of Federal and State Campaigns for FreedomWorks, reports that the Tea Partiers he’s talked to are “irate” at Gingrich… “I never met a single Tea Party activist that supported Newt Gingrich for president,” he adds."

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Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 7:42AM

Newt is Mr. Nancey Pelosi on the enviroment.
Newt is Mr. Chickenhawk for endless wars.
Newt is Mr. Zionist flunky his whole career.
Newt is Mr. I can't pay my bill at Tiffany and company but trust me with the Federal budget.
Newt is Mr. Blackmailed an rolled and rolled by Clinton over his serial adultries.
Newt is Mr had 3 wives and 2 mesy divorces.
Newt is Mr compassionate who told his 1st wife on her cancer sickbed that he wanted a divorce.
Newt is Mr.has a flighty, much younger, 3rd wife who loves Jewels. This has forced Newt to suppliment his lavish pension with consultant jobs with our tax money. How many of these sweetheart deals has he done?
Newt is Mr. Fannie Mae who was given a 3o0,000 dollar bailout to write a report. The report in 2006 told Fannie Mae to keep on going the way it was.
Newt is Mr Thrown out of his Speakership because he was hopeless windbag and ineffective.
Newt is Mr Six Chins who looks like and old cow chewing her cud when he blathers on endlessly.
Newt is Mr. hated by about 90% of the American female population and 70% of the male population.
Newt is Mr Unelectable for all these reasons and many more. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Newt has more baggage then went down on the Titanic.

coal carrier| 11.15.11 @ 8:16AM

“Newt is Mr compassionate who told his 1st wife on her cancer sickbed that he wanted a divorce.”

Apparently you didn’t read the article.

Dustoffmom| 11.15.11 @ 8:30AM

Nor, apparently, his daughter's rather lengthy piece that ran not too long ago. The one where she rather forcefully stated this story is simply false from start to finish.

Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 8:42AM

It took his daughter years to come up with this fairy tale. Who believes anything that comes from a Gingrich? I like when I come up with a devasting bill of indictment, all you flunkies can dispute is one tiny item.

CW| 11.15.11 @ 10:35AM

Get lost Jack-ass!

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 1:38PM

The only thing "devastating" is your stupidity and your colossal ego.

idalily| 11.15.11 @ 3:26PM

Jesus, Jack, the more you post, the more I like Gingrich. Are you a secret Gingrich campaign operative? Or are you just an idiot?

canuckistani| 11.15.11 @ 8:43AM

It doesn't matter.
He is thrice married and cheated on his wife during the Clinton BJ fiasco. Result: high road ceded.

He was for every bailout proposed that protected wall street banks for the last 30 years. Result: high road ceded.

He flip-flopped on Libya in astonishing repetition: Result: high-road ceded.

He is the only sitting speaker reprimanded - by his own party - in history. Result: high road abandoned.

He eloquently shredded the Ryan plan. Result: sanity captured, but the "Right-wing social engineering" shot will linger. Net: conservatives left on the roadside again.

He's DOA, and the party would have shot itself in the head again if Willard doesn't close the deal.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 10:16AM

No one cares what you think.

RESULT: High road never found.

Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 11:02AM

Right on Cannuck. Those are some excellent points. Newt is just another neocon chickenhawk pushing endless wars and endless bailouts, for his buddies.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 12:17PM

It's funny how you. a self-described "proud 4-F" calls other people "chickenhawks".

I guess you're just a chicken...

Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 4:10PM

I am a happy 4F. Newt is a coward who skipped the action but now wants our young people to follow him over the cliff in his warmongering insanity. I fight for peace. Newt shills for war to the highest bidder.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 1:39PM

Is Newt trying to open a daycare center, or a congeniality school???

Purpleguy| 11.15.11 @ 7:06PM

And yet, this oh so true account is from his daughter, hardly an independent voice, now is it....

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 12:47PM

She's her mother's daughter, too!

chuck| 11.15.11 @ 8:57PM

Jack the Jew-hater doesn't need to read the articles, he knows more about history and current events that anyone at AS, even the editors. Don't believe me, just ask him!

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 9:31AM

Aww look, Jackboot Jackoff & Clint are re-living their fun times at the Jerry Sandusky Sencond Mile football camp days.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 9:59AM

You're A Slandering Liar Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy, ConJob.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Jerry Sandusky| 11.15.11 @ 10:03AM

Don't you remember all the fun we had in the shower together, Clint?

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 10:43AM

We Remember Hearing About You & Bibi Doing Each Other In A San Francisco Bath House, Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy.

Jerry Sandusky| 11.15.11 @ 3:15PM

Clint,

I lost my "1981 National Championship" ring.

Next time you take a dump, can you see if it slides out?

Thanks,

Jerry

Bibi| 11.15.11 @ 3:53PM

I lost a gerbil in one of you Israel Firsters' Butts.

His name is Tool Job.

Here Tool Job !

Come To Papa !

CW| 11.15.11 @ 10:36AM

HA Ha!! Good one!

Occam's Tool| 11.15.11 @ 11:37AM

"Mr. Zionist Flunky" is infinitely preferrable to Dr. "Jihadist Fellator."

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 11:43AM

More Queer Talk From The Government Bottom Of The Barrel, Loser, Maniac Sorry-Ass Excuse For A Psychiatrist.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

kate| 11.15.11 @ 1:09PM

Clint
You don't write like a member of the tea party. My guess is that you like to give older conservatives a hard time.
Your posts are obscene.
Remember there are ladies on this sight.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 1:17PM

Like Tool Job ?

kate| 11.15.11 @ 1:31PM

Clint
You seem young and I would hope that you start using your intellect to do better. Words are weapons.
A lot of your words are insulting and hurtful.
There is more good in the world than bad.
Lets pass it on.
(this from a conservative) :)

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 1:40PM

He has no intellect. He's a moron. This is as good as he gets.

kate| 11.15.11 @ 2:22PM

On the other hand, I'm a realist.

kate| 11.15.11 @ 2:29PM

I am so sad for my country right now. I hope good people (i,e, tough people) can set things straight, and do the right thing for everyone.
The world is such a wonderful place.
It is not going to be easy.
Where are the tough guys?
The current culture has taken our men from us and left us with Clint.

kate| 11.15.11 @ 2:35PM

I say the world is a wonderful place, because I spent many years over-seas.
People are people, good and bad.
A very bright person once asked me why I thought America was exceptional.
I was young. I answered..."because we are a melting pot...we are the world...blah, blah.."

The person answered me, no.
We are no better.
It is our Constitution.
That simple.
Think about it.

Moe Blotz| 11.15.11 @ 3:19PM

From what I have gleaned from occasional visits to these pages, Clint believes much the same as the rest of us. The rants come when someone disagrees with him and he is egged on. We all want our country saved from the likes of BHO and his minions. Passion I can understand, but insulting someone because you prefer a different candidate for an office is unnecessary.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 3:21PM

"...insulting someone because you prefer a different candidate for an office is unnecessary."

What's your point?

kate| 11.16.11 @ 10:42AM

Actually,
I misstated his reply.
We ARE better. We ARE exceptional.
The Constitution has done that for us.

(My kids both had the same eighth grade history teacher in Colorado. He taught them different years, but his anti-conservative, anti-capitalist, hate America rhetoric was the same. He told my boys that the word "conservative" originated in the south with those who wanted to conserve slavery!

My eldest actually believed this jerk and acted very suspicious of us at the dinner table that night. LOL.
My youngest was too smart.
When I told him that southern democrats were the slave masters and that Lincoln was a republican and that "conservative" comes from wanting to conserve the Constitution...He believed me.

Guess which one voted for Obama, dropped out of college and is serving sandwiches and which one is graduating with honors and has a job offer? )

kate| 11.16.11 @ 11:39AM

We need to start with the schools. We are never going to get anywhere unless our children are taught the truth.
I was required to read 'Anne Frank's Diary' in eighth grade.
I remember the day i finished it. It was late afternoon on the sofa in my parent's den.
I sobbed.
My kid's weren't assigned it and had never even heard of it by 8th grade.
What is happening to this country?

Bibi| 11.15.11 @ 3:56PM

Will You Be Lecturing The Israel Firsters Now, k-k-k-katie, beutiful lady.

kate| 11.16.11 @ 10:46AM

Hey bibi
what are you talking about?
I am very pro-Israel, as are most conservatives.

Anthony| 11.15.11 @ 3:44PM

Thank you gracious lady, this daily dose of vile diatribe is really getting sickening.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 4:19PM

I agree. If supporting Israel makes me a Zionist flunky, then FLUNK ON!!!

scythe| 11.15.11 @ 7:05AM

What a comparison! It all seems plausible. The truth is Gingrich is the only voice which rings with strength, conviction, and authority. Much as I regret having to say it. His debate performances are like those of a shadow which comes to life. In fact, with every debate, it's as if the rest of his companions have become the shadows and he stands alone, the only presence worth listening to. He is riveting and commands attention. And can anyone doubt that on a stage with Obama, he alone has the verbal skills and command of history to pulp the little bastard in the White House?

Reagan Loyalist| 11.15.11 @ 12:20PM

Mr. Lord's examination was insightful and thought provoking. As a nation we are at a frightful moment and are looking for a person up to the fight and Newt is the most experienced, intelligent and articulate street brawler running. Brilliant article!!

That said, for many years, this site and it's readers/commenters were civil, learned and enjoyable. Yes, there was the occasional troll with no manners, but the crude and crass have invaded and overtaken the comments section. I'll get attacked for this but why can't we discuss different points of view without resorting to name calling? We want leadership but it starts by being responsible for our own expressions. I think it's cowardly to act like a thug safe in your own slippers. Grow up!

GW| 11.15.11 @ 12:42PM

+1
Notice how this is all started by supporters of a particular candidate. I would love to talk about Newt in this segment (considering it is a piece about him) and leave the debate about other candidates in articles about them.

CrackerHound| 11.15.11 @ 2:00PM

indeed...I don't know what happened but it is getting ridiculous as of late.

Brian Mc| 11.15.11 @ 4:19PM

Popularity of the site might be at fault? As an aside, I must admit a certain and serious concern with the remark earlier concerning his indirect endorsement concerning global warming...

Gary B| 11.15.11 @ 6:31PM

+2

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 11.15.11 @ 7:09AM

How apropos!

Al Gore invoked Winson Churchill in his fight on the environment:

"The Nobel Peace Prize winning environmental campaigner compared the battle against climate change to the fight against Hitler in the Second World War.

Mr Gore, whose Oscar winning film An Inconvenient Truth helped bring the issue to a mass audience, said similar efforts to those of the 1940s would be needed to build support to cut carbon dioxide emissions.

"Winston Churchill aroused this nation in heroic fashion to save civilisation in World War Two," he said.

"We have everything we need except political will, but political will is a renewable resource."

Think Nancy Pelosi, park bench and no proof whatsoever of climate change.

Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 7:50AM

Newt thinks he is Winnie Churchill, but like almost all neocons, he has never been near a battle field. Winnie for all his faults was willing to put his keister on the line. The Neocons love Winston Churchill who led his country into 2 world wars and refused peace deals in both of them that would have saved the Empire and a lot of lives. Winnie led his country over the cliff to bankruptcy and a broken up Empire and the Neocon, chicken hawks, are doing the same here.

Dick Nome| 11.15.11 @ 8:31AM

What battlefield were you on??

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 9:32AM

Jack is, as he told us last week, "a proud 4-f" who's father told him it was "better to be a live coward." For confirmation of this, please check the Iranian nuke thread from last Friday. Jack's a proud coward, is what he is.

Dick Nome| 11.15.11 @ 3:14PM

I was wanting to see if he was at the Union riots last spring in Madison and helped trash the Capitol. To him that would seem to qualify.

Occam's Tool| 11.15.11 @ 11:38AM

Dick: Jack is a proud coward, as he himself stated. Clint never volunteered for jack, himself.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 11:55AM

Tool Job's The Neo-Chickenhawk Coward Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy, Who Never Volunteered To Join The Israel IDF Or Joined The United States Military.

Dr. Ron Paul served in the United States Air Force as a flight surgeon for several years (1963-1965). While in the air force, Paul reached the rank of Captain. Directly after his service in the air force, Paul worked again as a flight surgeon for the United States Air National Guard (1965-1968).

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Mac Jehoff| 11.15.11 @ 12:10PM

MeTV shows reruns of M*A*S*H and all the military surgeons they depict are Captain or higher. To be correct you should say that Ron Paul never progressed beyond the rank of captain.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 12:18PM

Captain is the STARTING rank of a Doctor in the Army, Air Force, or Marines (LT. in the Navy).

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 12:40PM

That's right. Because my Dad was a Navy dentist & retired as an O-6 after 20 years & a tour on the Saratoga in the Tonkin Gulf.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 1:22PM

Asked & Answere.

Not Necessarily In The Air Force.
Dr.Ron Paul Did His Residency In The Air Force & Was Promoted Then To The Rank Of Captain.

Do Your Homework.

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Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 1:41PM

Asked and Answered WRONGLY.

Were you ever in the service, dummy???

Dick Nome| 11.15.11 @ 3:16PM

MDs are given the rank of Captain when they are commissioned. If you had ever served you would know that you dimbulb.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 1:21PM

Asked & Answere.

Not Necessarily In The Air Force.
Dr.Ron Paul Did His Residency In The Air Force & Was Promoted Then To The Rank Of Captain.

Do Your Homework.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 1:32PM

Who cares if he was an Air Force captain. If he were an officer worth a shit, he'd have stayed & put in his 20, retiring as an O-6 Colonel. But it just seems as if Ron used the Air Force to pay for his med school. Just like he uses useful idiots like you to fund his upcoming retirement.

Air Force guys who wanna call themselves "warriors" & retire as O-3's are fighter jocks & combat rotor heads. Not doctors who used the military for their MD schooling.

Drunken Sailor| 11.15.11 @ 2:15PM

All graduates of residency training enter active duty at the rank of Captain (O-3). Most of the US Air Force Academy graduates pursue a career as an Air Force physician, while the vast majority of HPSP graduates leave the service as soon as their commitment is completed.

The Air Force also recruits fully trained and practicing physicians to enter active duty. Their rank at entry is based on their experience.

Considering Paul went to medical school at Duke University looks like he most likely came in at O-2 or O3. Meaning he advanced at the most one whole rank.

Mac Jehoff| 11.15.11 @ 3:23PM

Right, and never advanced beyond captain whilst he remained in the national guard.

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 12:58PM

Jack, given another four years, Obama will lead us into a peace deal with the new Caliphate coalescing in the Middle East - compliments of obama's lack of support for the original protesters in Iran and support of the ouster of Mubarak, quaddafi and Assad - all of which ushered in the Muslim brotherhood.

So, tell me: will you be voting for Obama in a Gingrich vs Obama matchup?

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 7:10AM

The RINO-CINO Gingrich Endorsed Dede Scoozafava.

Scozzafava is an abortion rights advocate who favors gay marriage. It would be one thing if Scozzafava balanced that social liberalism with fiscal conservatism. But as a state assemblywoman, she voted for massive tax increases, Democratic budgets and a $180 million state bank bailout. She also supported the trillion-dollar federal stimulus package — which every House Republican voted against.

Scozzafava’s husband is a leading upstate New York union organizer. She supports the federal “card-check” legislation that would massively boost union rolls — and Democratic voting rolls — at the expense of rank-and-file workers’ free choice. And for that matter, at the expense of Republican electoral prospects. Card check is the key to a Democratic majority in perpetuity. Big Labor bosses have said as much."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 9:38AM

Clint the Ru Paul Fellatio Tsar Canned Post Number 20.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 10:04AM

The Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy, Con Job Is Upset Because His Mancrush Bibi Isn't Running For President.

We Are Being Set Up By These Israel Firster RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 10:42AM

Clint the Ru Paul Fellatio Tsar Canned Post Number 37.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 10:48AM

Like I Said,

The Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy, Con Job Is Upset Because His Mancrush Bibi Isn't Running For President.

We Are Being Set Up By These Israel Firster RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 11:03AM

Clint the Ru Paul Fellatio Tsar Canned Post Number 87.

Time to wipe the corners of your "mouf," Clit. Does Ru Paul think you do as good as job as Jerry does?

Occam's Tool| 11.15.11 @ 11:39AM

And that's even more impressive, Con, because he's a self fertilizing hermaphrodite, Clint is.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 11:47AM

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Well, played, Occam!

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 12:04PM

Tool Job's The RINO-CINO Israel Firster ButtBoy ,Who Said He Will Vote For Mittens Romney.

The Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy, Con Job Is Upset Because His Mancrush Bibi Isn't Running For President.

We Are Being Set Up By These Israel Firster RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 12:02PM

Notice That These RINO-CINO Israel Firster Propagandists Are Fighting A Mouth Fighting No Substance Stalling Action ,While Not Defending Their Specific Candidate.

We Are Being Set Up By These Israel Firster RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 12:43PM

The previous two posts are Clint the Ru Paul Fellatio Tsar Canned Posts Numbers 56 & 81.

DTOM| 11.15.11 @ 10:43AM

Hey, Con Chef,

Clint actually wrote a post out, I don't remember weeing him post that one before. It contained facts, a little logic, maybe if cases like that we should encourage sane behavior by not blasting him.

Unless of course he just lifted that, then blast away. But if it's real, let him up for a second. He does have a serious tenacity that'd be good in a fight. It's risky, but I'm just saying...

DTOM| 11.15.11 @ 10:45AM

DOH! I don't remember SEEING not weeing.

And, "maybe iN cases like that.."

Sheesh.

I'm going back to bed again.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 1:25PM

" GOP Candidates in Four-Way Dead Heat

Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are in a dead heat as the top choices for Iowans likely to attend the Jan. 3 Republican presidential caucuses.

A Bloomberg News poll shows Cain at 20 percent, Paul at 19 percent, Romney at 18 percent and Gingrich at 17 percent among the likely attendees with the caucuses that start the nominating contests seven weeks away"

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 7:20AM

Neewt and Winnie have a lot in common. Both were rabid Zionists their whole political career. Winnie was the Colonial Secretry when Palistine was set up to be the Jewish homeland. Both lived lavish life styles and needed support from friendly Zionists when their extravagence got them in hot water. Winnie was bailed out by his pal Bernard Baruch one of the richest and most influenial Zionist of his era. Newt's 2nd wife worked for a Zoinist front group. Newt has always had lavish support from the Zionist network his whole politial career.

Both Winnie and Newt were and in the case of Newt still is horrible warmongers. Winnie nand Newt never met a war they didn't love. Winnie was very phyically brave and took part in many battles. He was a trained soldier and had been a top military bureaucrat for much of his career. Newt on the other hand is a rabid chickenhawwk who has never been near a battle field. He reminds me of his old buddy Dick Cheney who loved war, but never had the time to fight in one.

Churchill vowed that he did not become the Kings Prime Minister to see the destruction of the British Empire. Well the wars he had desired and led the country into [WW1 and WW2 ] bankrupted the Empire and led to it's end.

When I was a child the map of the British Empire covered over 25% of the Earth's surface. Today the Empire is England and Wales. Scotland wants out as well. England and Wales are about the size of Wi. Newt and the warmonger neoconservatives who have puffed him, will leave the USA in a similar position, broke and broken up.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 7:40AM

There is the brink of insanity, and then there's the abyss...and Jack is in it.

To state that Churchill "wanted war" is stupid beyond words. Was he anti-fascist and anti-Communist? Certainly, and rightly so. But he didn't pursue war; he simply understood that it was inevitable.

To claim that Churchill was a "Zionist" is also stupid. Palestine was a British colony. Jewish partisans bombed the King David hotel in Jerusalem. Churchill was no fan of Zionism.

Additionally, Churchill was not even PM in 1948 when Israel was recognized as an independent nation, having been succeeded by Clement Attlee. It was Attlee who oversaw the dissolution of the Empire, including India, Ceylon, Burma, and Pakistan. You probably liked Attlee, Jack...he was weak, inneffectual, and clueless on foreign policy, just like Ron Paul.

But since you know SO MUCH more about history, Jack, I guess you already know all of this, right?

Riiiiight....

And Jack...here's another question for your great brain. Since the Jews have always controlled the money supply and manipulated whole Empires, how come Israel didn't reappear until 1948???

Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 7:58AM

The story of Churchill and his rabid Zionsim is well known to everyone who has studied his life. His bailouts by Baruch are also well known. Churchill was just another bribed Zionist flunky in the 30's pushing the war line, just like Gingrich is today. At least Churchill was phyiscally brave and fought in many battles. Newt is just another old chickehawk wanting young people to die for his delusions.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 8:15AM

Jack...You're certifiably nuts.

I guess the Jews in Europe had it coming, right?

On second thought, you're probably a Holocaust Denier...

Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 9:00AM

Hitler was a monster, but the Holocaust was not inevitable. Hitler offered the British a fair deal in both 1939 when he conquered
Poland and in 1940 when he conquered France. He wanted a full peace with England. The Jews would have to leave his empire of course, but they would have been alive. The British empire offered to take 500,000 Jews. But the Zionists refused the offer and demanded that they be sent to Palistine. Hitler didn't want to upset the Arabs so he refused that deal. The Holocaust was not started until 1942 when Hitler finally decided that there wasn't going to be a peace deal and if he was going down he would kill every Jew he could get his hands on.
The smart thing to do would have been to accept Hitler's deal and get those poor Jews out of danger. Churchill and his Zionist buddies with their demand to keep the war going left 8 million Jews in the hands of Hitler. By the way the anti Zionist Jewish webbsites do a pretty good job of detailing this story. So does Pat Buchanan in his books, as well as other authors.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 9:35AM

Your quoting of Pat Buchannan, who's been roundly laughed at for his perspectives on this subject doesn't do much to strengthen your argument. Unless your argument is pro-Hitler/Chamberlain. Which it always seems to be.

"I know more about history and current events then anyone on this site including the editors. You Dr. Wrong are a dunce on all subjects. I live by the word the truth will set you free. I say to you liar, liar, pants on fire."

His words carry so little weight, if you were to hear them, your head would float away.

He knows so much history, he taught Herodotus everything.

He & Ron Paul know for certain what one hand clapping sounds like.

He is... THE MOST INSIPID MAN IN THE WORLD!

"I don't always engage in ass showing self aggradizement, but when I do, I prefer to do it on Am Spec. STAY STUPID, MY FRIENDS!"

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 10:07AM

The Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy, Con Job Is Upset Because His Mancrush Bibi Isn't Running For President.

We Are Being Set Up By These Israel Firster RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 10:23AM

Another moron pipes up with his idiotic robo-posting.

Clint, please let us know if you ever have time for an original thought.

And I'll be waiting for you tomorrow in Times Square, tough-girl.

You've been called-out...again. And you've been proven a pansy...again.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 10:38AM

You Know Where To Find Me,Israel Firster RINO-CINO Cupcake.

Show Up Or Shut Up.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 10:46AM

LOL!

So you're ducking another challenge?

Well you know where to find me, dummy...Times Square, tomorrow.

But you won't show. You're all talk.

Clint = coward.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 10:54AM

You're The Keyboard Mouth Fighter Pussy Liar ,Who Told Me To Meet You In Front Of The Sears Tower In Chicago.

You Know Where To Find Me, Cupcake.

Show Up Or Shut Up,

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 12:19PM

Yup. That's right, Dummy.

I was in Chicago. On business. That's what people who have a "job" do.

You didn't show up.

Pansy.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 1:28PM

You're A Serial Liar, Dr.Reich.

Wanna Make Somethin' Of It, Liar Coward Punk ?

Hmmmm Cupcake ?

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 1:45PM

I already said "YES," pussy-boy.

You're a wuss, a blow-hard, and a coward.

Show-up tomorrow, in Times Square, or everyone will know what a wuss, blow-hard, and coward you are.

Show up, so I can knock your crooked, yellow teeth down your fat, over-stuffed gullet.

I'm callin' you OUT (and "out" is where repressed closet-cases like yourself belong, anyway).

Show up, or shut-up, pussy-boy.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm????

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 2:49PM

Asked & Answered, Joisey PussyGirl, Dr.Reich.

You're The Keyboard Mouth Fighter Pussy Liar ,Who Told Me To Meet You In Front Of The Sears Tower In Chicago.

You Know Where To Find Me, Cupcake.

Show Up Or Shut Up, Nancy.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 3:02PM

Dr.Reich Gets Dressed For Times Square.

http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/.....ap-man.jpg

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 3:24PM

Looks like I';; be there by myself, 'cuz Clint-the-Coward ain't gonna' show up...

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 8:24PM

Looks Like You Just Made Aa Actual Threat To In Public, Dr.Reich:

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 1:45PM

" Show up, so I can knock your crooked, yellow teeth down your fat, over-stuffed gullet."

I Got A Copy Of That For My Record.

Thank You.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 8:43PM

Ooooh! I'm sooooooooo worried!

LOL!

Here, let me repeat it "for your records":

Show up, so I can knock your crooked, yellow teeth down your fat, over-stuffed gullet.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 4:20PM

TRANSLATION:

"I'm not comin', Dr. Reich, so stop makin' me look like the pussy fraud that I am!"

Mommmmmmm!!!!"

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 8:29PM

TRANSLATION:

You're An Imbecile,Who Just Made An Actual Physical Threat In Public.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 1:45PM

" Show up, so I can knock your crooked, yellow teeth down your fat, over-stuffed gullet."

Now, I Can Legally Defend Myself.

Thank You Keyboard Threatening Menace.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 8:44PM

You'd have to show-up to defend yourself, tough-girl...

(Psssssst...should we tell dummy that this is an anonymous message board..?)

Frog Marcher| 11.15.11 @ 2:21PM

After this last round of votes for our budget, would you support a third Party, that is Christian Based and Proud American? The PC crowd challenges the parties all the time and they always back down in fear of affending someone. So I think we need a new Party that has a strong back bone do you agree and would you support a new Party?

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 6:50PM

Sure, if you want to re-elect Obama.

1992 election: Ross Perot - 19%
George Bush - 37%
Bill Clinton - 43%

You must be with the Obama campaign!

CW| 11.15.11 @ 10:56AM

Doc, stop entertaining this turd!! Let him believe he can match wits with you and move on. He's an idiot.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 12:09PM

These RINO-CINO Attacks Are A Stalling Action.

Notice They Don't Talk About The Issues Of Their Specific Candidates.

They Are Buying The RINO-CINO Agenda Time & Will Vote For The RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney.
We Are Being Set Up By These Israel Firster RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 12:20PM

Can't help it.

It's fun.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 10:43AM

Clint the Ru Paul Fellatio Tsar Canned Post Number 56.

You still "train" for your NAMBLA marathon with Sandusky?

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 10:47AM

And he wont show tomorrow, either.

He's probably a 9th-grade punk.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 11:00AM

You Still Haven't Showed Up At Our Valley Forge Tea Party Meetings To Start The Fight You've Bloviatin' About, Joisey Candy Ass Keyboard Mouth Fighter, Dr.Reich.

Show Up Or Shut Up, Nancy.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 1:47PM

You've never been to Valley Forge Tea Party Patriots, either.

You're NOT a member; I have this on good authority.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 8:37PM

You're A Sociopathic Liar RINO-CINO Dr.Reich.

Show Up Or Shut Your Gutless Coward Big Mouth Dr.Reich.

Dave Adamski Says Your A Damned Liar.

He Thinks You're Nuts.

I Told Him You're A Keyboard Coward,Who Won't Show Up Again.

How Many Meetings Have You Failed To Show Up & Do Your Phoney Tough Girl Act.

We'll Be Waiting For You To Give Us Cause To Defend Ourselves.

You're An All Blow, No Go Pussy, Dr.Reich.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 8:46PM

Adamski doesn't run VFTPPanymore.

...dummy...

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 10:56AM

We Hear You Still Pull Trains For The IDF, Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy, Con Job.

DTOM| 11.15.11 @ 10:47AM

Con Chief,

Never mind my above post about letting Clint go unscathed.

From my bed, again,
DTOM

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 11:06AM

I'm A Former Collegiate Wrestler & Amateur Boxer.
I Can Deal With Rough Puffs, If They Force Me To Defend Myself.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 12:21PM

And you're a current moron.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 1:31PM

" GOP Candidates in Four-Way Dead Heat

Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are in a dead heat as the top choices for Iowans likely to attend the Jan. 3 Republican presidential caucuses.

A Bloomberg News poll shows Cain at 20 percent, Paul at 19 percent, Romney at 18 percent and Gingrich at 17 percent among the likely attendees with the caucuses that start the nominating contests seven weeks away."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 1:48PM

Joke.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 1:48PM

Joke.

Occam's Tool| 11.15.11 @ 11:42AM

Bibi is not a US citizen. He can't run for President. He is, however, the Leader of the Free World because our President is pathetic at it. As Ron Paul would be, because he has given up the role of World Leader to China, as has Pat Buchanan.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 12:13PM

You're A RINO-CINO Maniac Neo-Chickenhawk Israel Firster Propaganda Boy, Who Would Rather Have Your Mancrush Bibi For President Than An American.

You're The RINO-CINO Who Will Vote For Your Default American Choice, The RINO-CINO Frontman, Mittens Romney.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 12:41PM

You're a joke.

Your sole purpose in life is to make the people on this forum laugh at you, Clint.

And we do!

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 1:33PM

" GOP Candidates in Four-Way Dead Heat

Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are in a dead heat as the top choices for Iowans likely to attend the Jan. 3 Republican presidential caucuses.

A Bloomberg News poll shows Cain at 20 percent, Paul at 19 percent, Romney at 18 percent and Gingrich at 17 percent among the likely attendees with the caucuses that start the nominating contests seven weeks away."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Frog Marcher| 11.15.11 @ 2:20PM

After this last round of votes for our budget, would you support a third Party, that is Christian Based and Proud American? The PC crowd challenges the parties all the time and they always back down in fear of affending someone. So I think we need a new Party that has a strong back bone do you agree and would you support a new Party?

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 6:52PM

Give it up Obama campaign staffer. A third party run is the ONLY way Obama can win.

Jack in Wi| 11.15.11 @ 1:56PM

Bibi: Is hated all over the world. The leaders of Germany, France, and the USA have all been caught calling him a terrible liar and a lot more. A hell of a lot of people in Israel hate him as well. That would be over half of them if you include the Arab citizens of Israel. You should see what the opposition press in Israel calls him.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 3:25PM

"Bibi: Is hated all over the world."

By anti-Semites, yes.

Personally, I have NOTHING but admiration for Netanyahu.

Frekki| 11.15.11 @ 10:13AM

"The smart thing to do would have been to accept Hitler's deal and get those poor Jews out of danger"
You're an idiot. Hitler made agreements to forestall his enemies and gain time to arm. Look what he did in Russia to the peasants. You know so much that isn't true that it's impossible to talk to you. Hitler wanted to divide the world up into two Reichs, England controlling the seas and Germany the land. Go to school.

John Bull| 11.15.11 @ 12:19PM

Neville Chamberlain returned to our island nation to say that he had talked to der fuhrer and we would have peace in our time. I thought we had a deal.

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 10:21AM

The mistreatment of Jews in Germany actually began in 1933, Jack.

So the "smart" thing to do would have been to make a deal with Hitler?

Really??

And it's Churchill's fault that Hitler killed 6 million Jews? 'Cuz Hitler had no alternatives?

Not only are you ignorant (and you ARE ignorant), but to put it plainly, you're scum.

Were the Brits also to blame for the Battle of Britain? Should Churchill have resigned, and had Oswald Mosely appointed as PM to avoid all the nastiness?

And of course, Mosely just LOVED the Jews, didn't he?

Moron.

And FYI...You know VERY LITTLE of history.

RCV| 11.16.11 @ 6:48PM

Jack, your astonishing belief that the Allies should have accepted Hitler's "peace offer" -- the offer of a man who reneged on the promises of "no further territorial demands" that he made after the Sudentenland, after Austria, after swallowing the rest of Czechoslovakia -- put in sharp perspective the utter naivite and folly of the foreign policy you and your idols espouse, and your belief that benevolent Iran poses no threat to anyone. God forbid our country should ever fall into the hands of such people as you, Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan. The last holocaust will look mild by comparison.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 12:46PM

Jackoff Jackboot Wrote:

"Newt is just another old chickehawk wanting young people to die for his delusions."

This from a "proud 4-F" & "live coward." Well, at least you're honest about being a coward. That's about all though. Because you know dick about history, contrary to your claims that you know more about it "than anyone here, including the editors."

That's why they work for a well established magazine & you sit in your basement with Chef Boyardee ravioli stains all over your 2 sizes too small t-shirt.

kate| 11.16.11 @ 10:14AM

Do they still make Chef Boyardee???

CW| 11.15.11 @ 10:53AM

This guy almost sounds anti-Semitic!

Seek| 11.15.11 @ 6:50PM

"Rabid" Zionists. Are there any other kind for Jack?

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 1:02PM

Jack. So you promote colonialism? Interesting! You are at odds with your hero, Obama, whose alcoholic, drunk driving killer, was a virulent anti-colonialism Brit hater.

and, it's all Churchill's fault, eh? aren't you forgetting Adolph Hitler? You do know who Hitler was, don't you?

Conserdude| 11.15.11 @ 7:30AM

Really mr lord? Newt is a scoundrel with more baggage than an airport terminal. It's not just his philandering with a congressional staffer during clintons impeachment. It's his immaturity and lack of discipline as speaker of the house which let to a failed coup in 1997 and his ouster after the 1998 elections. His impressive debate performances are masking his lack of principles land character flaws
Read Quin Hillyer on newt on these pages from last spring

Doctor Right| 11.15.11 @ 7:41AM

But he's our scoundrel...

CW| 11.15.11 @ 10:58AM

Hear, Hear Doc!!

martin j smith| 11.15.11 @ 7:42AM

My view as of now-always subject to change is this:
Given the field that we have here is my list of preferences and why:

Gingrich, has a lot of "baggage" but of the candidates I think he has the potential to be the most hard hitting combatant against Obama personally in debates and also against the MSM and he showed that in the last debate. He know more than enough and is qualified both in domestic and foreign affairs to be a leader on these matters. The thing is he has not been tested which means smeared by the Socialists. If he can behave as he did in the debate towards that jack ass interlocur --whatever his name was--you know the one with the snarly smile ? If he can handle that sort of thing and he shows a vision that makes snese for this nation I can support him.

Romney has had it easy--I saw a hit piece in the NYT the other day on him but I really do not read the NYT. Rd on Romney Care is an issue and he has a tendency to show how clever he is by saying things that people want to hear.
For Gingrich to top Romney he must show a steel like ability to deal with the Left and a vision that makes sense and is consistent.

Ron Paul I would never vote for --ever and same with John Huntsman.
Rick Perry to be President has to act Presidential even in these assinine debates. He just has not and that puts me off
Cain is very weak in foreign policy and national security. His vision is too limited.
Bachman and Santorum must be more motivated and work outside the box of the debate format and Media formats to get attention and stop complaining.

Gingrich as potential to be a leader and perhaps a great one. He needs to show it and we will be watching.

Mike Rogers | 11.15.11 @ 8:30AM

I am grudgingly coming around to the view that Newt may be "it". I, too remember the real scandals (Scozzafava and the Pelosi couch), as well as the fake media scandals like the divorce papers.
I am a great fan of Herman Cain for his sincerity and genuine desire to restore constitutionally limited government. He is a man of principle that the media can smear but not destroy.
I am not so sure that Newt's principles are immutable, but his comprehensive knowledge of history and policy make him the indispensable man at this dangerous hour.
Any of you who watched Herman and Newt interact at that Tea party debate in Texas last week will likely agree with me that a Cain/Gingrich ticket either way up will combine conservative principles, essential political skills, and the mutual respect to work things through.

Matthew Quigley| 11.15.11 @ 9:58AM

Mike, I do believe you're right.

Frekki| 11.15.11 @ 10:17AM

How about Cain/Gingrich with Palin as Head of State. Just to watch the Lib's heads spin.

DTOM| 11.15.11 @ 10:50AM

You mean Palin as Secretary of State? We don't have a Head of State other than the President. And that's an unofficial title.

SpiralArchitect| 11.15.11 @ 5:25PM

Palin as sec of state. ( ha ha ha ha)

Why because she is outspoken?

Any supporting info would be appreciated, thx.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.15.11 @ 7:43AM

One thought:
Gingrich co-authored "One Minute After" a couple of years ago. (Nuclear EMP over the mid-west).
He certainly understands the international threats.

Occam's Tool| 11.15.11 @ 11:43AM

Excellent book, Ken. And you are absolutely correct. Don't recall any whiffling on Islam, either.

Purpleguy| 11.15.11 @ 7:12PM

Oh, Newt's a smart guy, but he's an insider, an elite to look down on everyone else. He does that in the debates ... he has that arrogance about his knowledge of history ... but he was a history prof for pete's sake. It's a turnoff for me.

Nancy in NC| 11.15.11 @ 8:17AM

It's always a good idea to look at what people do versus what they say. Newt IS NOT a conservative, even though he plays one on TV.

Gingrich is the consummate politician that will do whatever it takes to advance himself, and has a nasty temper to go with it. (I've heard he makes John McCain look like a pussycat.)

One needs to look at Newt's part as a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and his connections with the "one world, global" folks for starters. I would not be surprised to find Newt is a progressive in sheep's clothing.

His "dissing" comment about Paul Ryan, his support of Dede in New York, the ad with Pelosi, his messy personal life...the list goes on and on. Newt is no Churchhill.

ole meanie| 11.15.11 @ 10:08AM

Well, if one is a politician, is it not better to be a "consummate" one?

And if one is able to alter his views after further reflection, is that not better than being a rock-ribbed adherent to a bad view?

As to Newt's allegedly titanic temper, it is often forgotten that Eisenhower had a titanic temper, but Ike knew how to control it. McCain, maybe not. I have never seen Newt lose his temper publicly.

As to Newt's "moral failings", are we electing a President or a Pope? Is Newt less "moral" than FDR--who carried on an affair with his wife's pained knowledge? Is Newt less "moral" than JFK, who slept with a gangster's moll--in the White House?

Occam's Tool| 11.15.11 @ 11:43AM

Churchill's titanic temper was well known, as was his superb humor.

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 1:07PM

You sound like a "paulie", accusing Gingrich of the one world, global schtick.

John C.| 11.15.11 @ 8:20AM

Professor Newt is no Churchill for sure and he is no conservative. Newt’s answer for interior immigration enforcement is a guest worker program. Newt is an open-border, pro China globalist and an establishment Republican hack who pushed for ultra-liberal Scuzzy in NY23 and, like Flip Romney, has a number of past liberal positions.

Looks like RINO-Lovers Hannity and El-Rushbo are convincing the naïve Republican base that Newt is a conservative.

And if Newt wins the nomination we will not only lose the presidency but also fail to recapture the Senate and possibly lose the House too. The Dems will run against Newt as a reincarnation of George W. Bush. Also the GOP will lose the women vote with Newt.

Mike Rogers | 11.15.11 @ 8:31AM

So, your choice is? None of the above?

Purpleguy| 11.15.11 @ 7:15PM

well, the choices are a Hobson's choice for sure ... eanie, meanie, miney, moe ... they'll all lose im afraid.

CrackerHound| 11.15.11 @ 2:58PM

Ok John, which Republican is conservative enough and can beat Obama in the general election?

I believe Romney can beat Obama but I also believe if that happens it really doesn't matter in the fate of the country. Newt is the only person outside of Romney whom the American public will choose over Obama in my opinion.

Just try to picture in your head any other candidate facing Obama in the debates, talked about in the media, and answering 'gotcha' questions weeks from the debates.

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 1:09PM

and, why will "the GOP lose the women vote with Newt"? Are you saying, GOP women are stupid mind bots?

John C.| 11.15.11 @ 9:10AM

Yes Mike -- my choice is none of the above; there is no American-First conservative in the bunch. I am hoping pro-American Trump runs even though I am suspect about some of his positions.

Putting America and Americans first is our highest priority now – urgent in fact, otherwise we are doomed. Trump is also for rebuilding our shrunken Clinton/Bush/Obama military -- another very high priority.

If given no other choice I would vote for any GOP frontrunner except Ron Paul but if any of those won America would just die a slower death.

LMajito| 11.15.11 @ 9:13AM

hmmm...one has to refocus and think...what's the most important issue facing the country today? divorces, marital affairs, benches?

you have in the white house today a fellow that has not divorced, is not conducting marital affairs, is not sitting in benches with princess pelosi and are we really well off?

no human is perfect and american society sold its moral compass way back in the 90's when bc was in the white house getting oral relief but all was ok 'coz the stock market was going straight up and everybody was making dough...

i heard newt's interview last night when he acknowledged his mistakes such as sitting with the princess and explaining why he did it...also he stated that now as a grandpa, his view of life has matured as he has and has found a new lifeline of spiritual meaning...

i have watched and hear newt over the past three decades and have come to admire him. we need a leader that will make america proud and respected again...a person who has a solid grasp of history and clear vision for the future and one who's not swayed by polls or political talking heads...

he is not perfect, but for me this election is either newt or hermann...too bad for michelle...rick should go back to the lonestar state and get some coaches and take with him ronnie, he's like the crazy old uncle that can't speak too clearly...the rest of the field should do the right thing and walk away...

btw, anybody took the time to watch the donald and his 'how much is america worth' show? for those that think the us is done, they should look at this...sobering...in short the us is worth around 260 trillion dollars (after subtraciting the 15 trillion debt)...so much for the gloom and doom talks

CW| 11.15.11 @ 11:00AM

And he has managed to singl-ehandedly destroy this country you liberal moron!!!

Anthony| 11.15.11 @ 9:21AM

The anology is a bit of a stretch, but he's more Churchillian than anybody else we have.
America is in dangerous territory, thanks to Obozo and the hard Left. The 2012 election is a watershed election that will determine the fate of our Constitutional republic. Obozo care is in the hands of a Supreme Court that can't police itself in terms of judicial restraint, both in the law and in personal conflicts i.e Ms. Kagan.
Conservatives are sick of the leftist whores in the MSM and their selective and biased reporting, hence, the MSM's inability to take our Mr. Cain.
However, we crave a leader who is articulate and smart, someone that can't be easily dismissed by the elitist Left. Someone who can take on the likes of Scott Pelley, and send him to the woodshed in a debate because he/ she is quick on their feet and has the intellectual firepower to back it up.
All the Left would have over Newt is his past, which compared to the Ds, and their history, is quite tame.
I have many problems with Newt, and am not yet convinced that Newt has made a true turn to the right. As I have said in the past, his appetites and his ego need to be controlled.
Yet, I watch the media take down our candidates one at a time, and think, we truly need a leader who is capable of standing up to the onslaught and has a vision.
I for one am willing to give Newt a 2nd look, but he needs to make a pledge to us conservatives that he will indeed stay true to the cause and not stray back to Nancy Pelosi. If we had a strong, conservative RNC, it would be easier, but we don't, so it's up to us. WE MUST WIN IN 2012!!!
Besides, at least Newt will be far more Churchillian with a cigar, as opposed to the standard bearer of the D party, slick wee willie Clinton, or Barack (menthol) Obozo.

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 1:13PM

And, the media has collusively left us in the dark by it's failure to investigate obama's past. How convenient!

Tenn Slim| 11.15.11 @ 9:33AM

The need for a solid, knowledgeable, capable, non charismatic Conservative based, and able to lead, leader is so obvious.
We have been flimmed flammed, lied to, corrupted and denied basic liberties for some 10 or more years. It is far past the time for frivolous candidates of marginal abilities.
Newt, with all his warts and pimples, may well be that one.
IF we DONT SELECT a Conservative candidate that actually can beat Obama, then we will advance steadily into the Cloward Piven Mud Hut society, so ardently desired by the Left.
Semper Fi

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 1:14PM

ANYBODYBUT OBAMA!

Derek Leaberry| 11.15.11 @ 9:37AM

Newt Gingrich may be nominated because he is the most plausible current Republican candidate not named Mitt Romney. Yet he is a terrible choice for the nomination. America's problems are not just the fiscal abyss we have fallen into. America's collapse is also moral. We are the land of 40 % illegitimacy rates and 50 % divorce rates. In Gingrich we have a man whose vows mean little, who is a proven adulterer, and is narcissistic in the manner of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. Rather than nominate Gingrich shouldn't some party leaders give a call to Bobby Jindal or Bob McDonnell to step into what is rapidly becoming a political catastrophe.

MyGirlFriday| 11.15.11 @ 3:55PM

Derek Leaberry,

There is talk that Mitt Romney will pick Bob McDonnell for his V.P. in order to capture the conservative and Tea Party vote. I am sure his staff is waiting to make this announcement and will be predicated on how far his popularity falls and with Newt passing him in the polls.

kate| 11.16.11 @ 10:16AM

We need Rubio as VP to offset either Gingrich or Romney

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 1:16PM

Sure, call up Jindal and McDonnel - if you want another four years of obama

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 9:40AM

For the record, let's not go too far here. Newt's good, there's no denying it. And I think he'd be a good candidate. But I still haven't picked a horse to back. And to start comparing him to one of the world's greatest leaders is a little pre-mature. To me, anyways, that'd be like comparing Marco Rubio to Cicero or Demothenes. Not quite yet, is what I say to this.

Bill| 11.15.11 @ 9:54AM

Newt Gingrich is no Churchill. However, he is much better that Bill Clinton or Barack Obama. I'm little skeptical about his stands on global warming (the Ad with Nancy Pelosi) and his pledge to the bipartisanship (?). He may embrace more liberal positions on issues in order to reach an agreement; that's unacceptable. He is good when he says English will be the official language and attacks Obama on issues and unite the GOP base to defeat Obama. Overall, I give Newt a "B" minus.

Simon Templar| 11.15.11 @ 10:15AM

Just a B-...Billy boy..you sure? Just make it a D-, heck go all the way, F-.

What did you give Barry, Billy?

CW| 11.15.11 @ 11:04AM

He has already acknowledged that that was a big mistake and sicnce apologized for it...but yet no one seems to be able to invoke that Judeo-Christian ethic of forgiveness.

Bill| 11.15.11 @ 9:56AM

Newt Gingrich is much better candidate than Herman Cain (MORON).

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 10:05AM

I wouldn't call him a "moron," but Newt IS a better candidate.

Simon Templar| 11.15.11 @ 10:17AM

Moron? You could do better than that in slandering the guy. Super duper moron, maybe?

DTOM| 11.15.11 @ 10:57AM

Bill has shown some serious animosity towards Herman Cain. I keep asking him why - and get no reply.

But he did claim a lack of fiscal understanding, which would be surprising to those who know Mr. Cain was appointed to the KC Fed and then promoted to Chair it. Bill, maybe you have some other issue with Mr. Cain?

And there's the 'he doesn't know the Libyan government org chart' question. You know the one they bitch slapped Sarah Palin with...

I'm just saying, Bill might have issues...

Howard| 11.15.11 @ 10:09AM

I myself am much more likely to consider Newt. I especially enjoy where he challenges the moderators in the debates. Those liberals get flummoxed when Newt doesn't play by their rules and precepts. While I don't think Romney is a liberal; I think he is too prone to compromise with Democrats.

Simon Templar| 11.15.11 @ 10:09AM

Forever in chase for the perfect candidate and as they step up to the plate of candidacy, it is hand me a bat so we can beat them to death with "she's dumb," "he's an adulterer," " she has geography problems," "he is guilty of sexual harassment, I don't care if there is no evidence," and "he has bad debating skills."

Then they wonder why no one wants to run even when the incumbent has a 53 percent disapproval rating. Scratching their heads while they are stumped as to why this guy or that guy is not coming out of the wings to save them riding on his perfect 'conservative record' lily white stallion to save the day only to find that when he arrives..it is batter up..

You might be feeling a little pressure, Mr. Candidate, in a few seconds from now.

And if one does survive by chance to crawl out and get back on the road, he will surely be broken, bruised, cut, and bleeding.

Republican presidential elections are a lot like the
new testament story of the Carpenter from Nazareth who travels to the great capital to lead them to salvation. He is welcomed on Palm sunday with great anticipation, fanfare, hopes, and wishes and by Friday, he is scourged and hanging from a tree as the mob tears him apart and spits on him screaming for a replacement. They usually end up with a criminal. Ye have blasphemed against thy number rule of conservativism and have been tarnished by the latest liberal smear and accusation.

Then the rest of us hope he is resurrected, while the liberals mock him and pin a lablel of mockery on him, "This, the President of the Republicans." Next.

Naturalborn Texicanette| 11.15.11 @ 10:14AM

Newt is very sharp, He knows politics, He would lower taxes, he knows foriegn policy, he supports our military, he believes in the constitution, as written. He would be a very competant president.

I would vote for him over Romney in a nano-second!!!

Even though he is not my first choice.........

It aint over til it's over. We shall see..........

Simon Templar| 11.15.11 @ 10:21AM

Sorry, not good enough. He has to walk on conservative water, turn bloated government into small government like water into wine, and raise Ronald Reagan from the dead.

Oops, sorry, my bad, that would not be good enough either. Oh well, who is next?

MarkR| 11.15.11 @ 10:30AM

After watching these debates I am so much more convinced that Newt is the man among men in the room. Paul is crazy and Huntsman is a fake. The rest I could tolerate. But Newt on the stage with O-Teleprompter would be worth every second. That being said the writer doesnt bring up enough what I always fear with Newt (he mentions the Ryan episode) and that is Newts tendency at times to just become sort of out there- sort of self defeating and standing for things and people that dont make sense (out of what? A need to be liked or loved). I think of the Pelosi commercial and global warming. Sometimes Newt seems hell bent on doing some weird pretzel stretch to appeal to people who hate everything he stands for. --Yet as I watch these debates he is heads and shoulders above the rest- on substance as good as, on presence better than, on toughness better than, on ability to counter the media totally off the charts better, on ideas off the chart. He is a man with so much to offer.---I also question "Does he really want it?" Why? Sometimes he seems to want his ideas out there for digestion, but does he want it bad enough to get the ground game Romney and Perry have going? All questions that havent been fully answered. But right now he's in the cat birds seat with me. We shall see.

ole meanie| 11.15.11 @ 10:34AM

I don't see how anyone can dispute that Gingrich is the most experienced in national-level politics, or that he has the most formidable mind, among all the candidates. Is he likeable, warm, caring, "compassionate"? Maybe not, or on the other hand maybe he just can't or won't try to fake it.

What some of the conservative True Believers ought to bear in mind is that statistically they are in a very small minority in this country. Any candidate who can satisfy their test of ideological purity is going to turn off the majority of the voting public, and hand Obama another four years.

A candidate like Ron Paul isn't going to be nominated, and if he were, the general election will be a replay of Goldwater vs. LBJ in 1964. Perry is too much of a cowboy for general taste. Bachmann is a lightweight, and couldn't oppose Obama successfully. Romney--who utterly lacks conservative principles and is anathema to the Tea Party types-- is slippery and unattractive.

Cain's weaknesses are too apparent, and his strengths are conjectural. It is argued, in essence, that despite his obvious lack of knowlege, he did run a pizza chain, his heart is in the right place, and that he is a nice fellow.

If being able to run a corporation successfully, and being rich and African American are qualifications enough, and if likeabilty and "compassion" are the key elements of what we want in a leader, let's nominate Oprah Winfrey by acclamation and be done with it.

MarkR| 11.15.11 @ 11:01AM

Couldnt disagree more with the idea true believers arent capable-however I get your point if its a purity test.Romney fails on many levels though as not only not pure (who is) but also as a flip flopper of massive proportions who is NOT really a conservative in the Reagan mold. The old canard about being too conservative is a liberal-RINO invention. An example (I lived through em all) 1964-Goldwater -great ideas, awesome candidate- why the blow out? Answer -CONTEXT- 1964-one year after the assasination of Kennedy- new left is only beginning their assault on American society- the handsome young idealistic president is a martyr as we have never seen since Lincoln. The anti communism of the conservative left is beginning to coalese with the social liberalism of the burgeoning Great Society and will soon enough separate into the McGovernites of far left foreign policy views- Johnson could have not campaigned and won in a landslide.---Fast forward 16 years-- the American electorate is in misery- Carter and his congressional accomplices have torn down any sense of national honor and made America the laughing stock of the world- weak- ineffective and with an economy torn assunder by the famed "misery-index" and an enemy arising en mass on every continent (the USSR). Into the fray comes Reagan (the Hollywood actor/ the nut job whos gonna blow up the world/ the meany whos gonna destroy entitlements/ the dummy who is stupid/ old (Newt 1 year younger today) and the RINOS-Will/a young Krauthammer/ others on the Rockefeller and more liberal right- say Reagan would be a disaster and they write that stuff daily.)--Then the election: landslide as Reagan makes Carter look like the weakling he was.---Fast forward 30+ years- a much more dangerous time- the rise of the tea party- the 2010- blow out historic and we hear the same claptrap- elect a moderate- dont inflame the masses with an ideologue. History tends to counter that critique as Americans as a whole dont buy every facet of conservatism- but are NOT socialists and surely feel the ravages of a huge mistake in 2008. I say throw the best we got at em. This is no ordinary election or time.Not saying has to be pure- but certainly must be conservative and we gotta know that we are getting a reliable conservative who is gonna follow through. Romeny- I dont think so and at least I am not sure.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 12:28PM

40% of americans identify themselves as "Conservative." Is that a "very small minority?"

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 12:30PM

Secondly, I'm sure the assasination of JFK had nothing to do with the election in 1964, not to mention the democrats introduction of the first smear campaign. Remember? the commercial where the democrats told america that Goldwater wanted their children to die?

MarkR| 11.15.11 @ 1:15PM

You think the assasination had nothing to do with it? Well you could be right but remember Johnson was there to bring in the age of Camelot and to end poverty and all discrimination- (he was going to fulfill JFK'S legacy)at least in theory and yes I remember the daisy commercial which aired exactly ONCE and was pulled. Democrats were so in the ascendency and JFK was an icon. No litany of great society failures yet in the books. A totally different time.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 1:44PM

I was replying to the same post as you. Note how my post isn't indented below yours. Only difference is I was being sarcastic.

Drunken Sailor| 11.15.11 @ 10:47AM

LOL. I love how the Paul supporters immediately gang up on Newt with everything they got. Just shows they KNOW Newt is a serious threat to Ron Paul's campaign. This is getting interesting.

DTOM| 11.15.11 @ 10:59AM

Drunken one,

The Paulbots' problem is ANYBODY with a pulse is a problem to Ron Paul's Campaign.

CW| 11.15.11 @ 11:07AM

Ditto my friend!!

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 11:16AM

So Are You Caniacs, Now That Cain Is Dropping In The Polls.

Simon Templar| 11.15.11 @ 11:32AM

Cainiacs, yeah right. Before we were caniacs, apparently we were Perryites and before that Bachmanites and now, for not long, Gingrichites.

Maybe, we would like to just have a choice besides Ron Paul. Maybe, just maybe, we would like not to see our candidates smeared and undermined by the likes of you and your cousins, the Liberals.

On with your little meaningless diatribe, quotes, and string of adjectives...

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 12:27PM

Don't you know that Ron Paul's followers were a product of being upset democrats moving to the left. They're just leftover, washed-up on the shore democrats.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 12:27PM

upset *with

JimH| 11.15.11 @ 12:57PM

Newtonians?

Occam's Tool| 11.15.11 @ 11:45AM

Clit, wipe your mouth first, catamite.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 12:19PM

These RINO-CINO Bibi ButtBoy's Are Fighting A Stalling Action.

Notice These RINO-CINO Israel Firster Agendists Spend Little To No Time Talking About Their Specific Candidate's Issues.

Tool Job's The RINO-CINO Israel Firster ButtBoy ,Who Said He Will Vote For Mittens Romney.

The Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy, Con Job Is Upset Because His Mancrush Bibi Isn't Running For President.

We Are Being Set Up By These Israel Firster RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 12:52PM

"The Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy, Con Job Is Upset Because His Mancrush Bibi Isn't Running For President."

Not really. I'm upset that Mike Pence isn't running. You will be perpetually upset because all you've done with your money is contribute to the Ru Paul Retirement Fund. And you'll be one of those stupid schmucks to go pay $100 a whack to go listen to him speak.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 2:32PM

Like I Said, These RINO-CINO Bibi ButtBoy's Are Fighting A Stalling Action.

Notice These RINO-CINO Israel Firster Agendists Spend Little To No Time Talking About Their Specific Candidate's Issues.

Mike Pence Ain't Running Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy, Con Job.

" GOP Candidates in Four-Way Dead Heat

Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are in a dead heat as the top choices for Iowans likely to attend the Jan. 3 Republican presidential caucuses.

A Bloomberg News poll shows Cain at 20 percent, Paul at 19 percent, Romney at 18 percent and Gingrich at 17 percent among the likely attendees with the caucuses that start the nominating contests seven weeks away."

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On Con Job's Face.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 2:41PM

"Mike Pence Ain't Running Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy, Con Job."

Funny. You wrote about me:

"The Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy, Con Job Is Upset Because His Mancrush Bibi Isn't Running For President."

To which I replied:

"Not really. I'm upset that Mike Pence isn't running."

And you come back with THIS gem:

"Mike Pence Ain't Running Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy, Con Job."

LOOK EVERYONE!!!! CLINT KNOWS HOW TO READ!!!!!! AND UNDERSTAND!!!! ITS AN F-ING MIRACLE!

Drunken Sailor| 11.15.11 @ 2:40PM

There once was a ass named Clint,
Who searched his navel for Lint,
He had a man crush on Paul,
Which he posted daily to all,
While his homoerotic thoughts made him squint.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 4:22PM

Get Bent Asshat.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 5:20PM

That's all you've got left. Because every single poster here has punked your bitch ass out today, just like they do every other day. Stick to "training" for "wrestling"at your local Valley Forge leather bar, Gimp.

Red Injun| 11.15.11 @ 11:01AM

You Paul supporters are beginning to sound like those Obama sycophants. All that hopey changey nonsence transponded to the vapid minds of a different crowd.

Red Injun| 11.15.11 @ 11:01AM

You Paul supporters are beginning to sound like those Obama sycophants. All that hopey changey nonsence transponded to the vapid minds of a different crowd.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 11:18AM

You're The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 11:54AM

Clint the Ru Paul Fellatio Tsar Canned Post Number 12.

Clint| 11.15.11 @ 12:20PM

These RINO-CINO Bibi ButtBoy's Are Fighting A Stalling Action.

Notice These RINO-CINO Israel Firster Agendists Spend Little To No Time Talking About Their Specific Candidate's Issues.

Tool Job's The RINO-CINO Israel Firster ButtBoy ,Who Said He Will Vote For Mittens Romney.

The Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy, Con Job Is Upset Because His Mancrush Bibi Isn't Running For President.

We Are Being Set Up By These Israel Firster RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Melvin| 11.15.11 @ 11:11AM

I guess if it could be summed up in one phrase about Newt Gingrich as a candidate for President of the United States.
"I am voting for Newt Gingrich as a candidate for President of the United States, not because I want to have him as a husband. I am voting for Newt Gingrich as a candidate for President of the United States because he has the articulate vision, and capabilities to lead this Country in a very troubled and dangerous world right now."

RJ| 11.15.11 @ 12:29PM

Good summary.

Interested Conservative| 11.15.11 @ 11:31AM

Interesting to see the comments here. Newt realizes he needs both the Paul wing (smaller) and the Tea Party wing (much bigger) to coalesce behind the non-Mitt candidate. The comments indicate the depth of the Paul support, and also how it could turn rapidly in his favor - hence, he'll need Mitt to alienate them before he does.

As for the Tea party wing, that is what the Veep is for. He has long, very long, recognized Gov. Palin as de facto leader there, and it will be a challenge to keep them aboard and avoid odder 3rd party runs (Trump, and possibly Bloomberg - though they may not affect states which matter).

I don't see how Mitt sways as many of these voters as the non-Mitt will, but he may squeak in electorally as the non-Obama.

Tough calls either way, but with Rep. Paul already nixing a 3rd party run, and with Sen. Paul rightfully maximizing his influence within the party, I don't see them going anywhere, even with Mitt.

Newt's long since owned the personal "baggage", and explained the "couch" mistake. As for the NY race, that was his last deference to local party control as opposed to Tea Party influence. Anyone think he cannot swing that as well?

Simon Templar| 11.15.11 @ 11:36AM

The Tea party is the majority, not the minority of the republican electorate and does not have to settle for VP. Ron Paul is trailing way behind by any and most polls.

Interested Conservative| 11.15.11 @ 12:16PM

1) Agreed about TP as a majority. I said "very big", but could have been clearer. It probably is a clear plurality, if not a 50% +1 majority. Still, it is somewhat indistinct.

2) My point about the VP is not that it "settles" for it, so much as it as to choose the nominee, who then has to lean toward the TP rather than mollify some other GOP faction. Namely, who is the TP choice as nominee? I suspect at this point Cain, perhaps Perry, with the others trying to sway them, perhaps Mitt the least, clearly less so than Newt.

Of the non-TP candidates, it seems Newt is closest to them, though perhaps Sen. Santorum would make that argument as well, but if you limit the discussion to the top four poll leaders, Cain, Perry, Newt and Mitt, I think that's the order of TP preference - have I misordered them?

nohussein| 11.15.11 @ 11:36AM

Newt is Americas best bet for 2012, ABO.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 11:53AM

Clit Pukes:

"I'm A Former Collegiate Wrestler & Amateur Boxer.
I Can Deal With Rough Puffs, If They Force Me To Defend Myself."

First you were a D-I football player. Now you expect us to believe THIS bullshit? No wonder you like wrestling, since you & Jerry Sandusky are so "tight" (pun intended). You're not even a member of the group you claim, according to multiple people on this board. You're a fraud. And a coward. And not at all intimidating.

Laughable, yes. Intimidating? Hell no.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 2:11PM

Get Your Lies Straight Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy.

I Played Division-II Ball And Played Three Sports In College.

I'm A Member Of The Valley Forge Tea Party.

Now,
You're The Rough Puff,Who Bloviated About Jujitso & Akido.

What Sports Did You Play In College,Nancy ?

Where's Your Tea Party's Address ?

You're Up Nancy.

By The Way Nancy, The Last Martial Arts Asshole,Who Made Me Defend Myself Was Down For The Count In Less Than A Minute.

Dick Nome| 11.15.11 @ 2:23PM

You are one big Blowhard SoS. Here, have another fish. AARRKK AARRKKK!!

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 2:27PM

Eat This, Israel Firster Bloviatin' Bibi ButBoy.

GOP Candidates in Four-Way Dead Heat
Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are in a dead heat as the top choices for Iowans likely to attend the Jan. 3 Republican presidential caucuses.

A Bloomberg News poll shows Cain at 20 percent, Paul at 19 percent, Romney at 18 percent and Gingrich at 17 percent among the likely attendees with the caucuses that start the nominating contests seven weeks away."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 2:43PM

Played soccer at Univeristy of Memphis. You know? A D-I school. And your empty threats of violence towards me faze me not at all. The bigger the mouth, the bigger the pussy behind it.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 3:46PM

Soccer Ain't A Sport, Nancy.

That's Somethin' Dweebs,Who Can't Make The Football Team Do In Gym Class.

You Must Be A Worldclass Pussy, Nancy.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 4:02PM

This from a D-II pine rider. Sure, dude. Whatever you say.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 2:44PM

Oh, & Clit? It was JUDO & aikido. There's a difference.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 3:48PM

Are Ya Sure It Wasn't Judy, Punchy ?

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 4:03PM

It might've been.

For you, I'm sure it was Bawney or Jerry.

Lesser Weevil| 11.15.11 @ 12:05PM

Oh, man. Go read *anything* that Churchill wrote. You'll be glad you did. Then (if you can stand it) read something with Newt's name on it. Case closed.
"Without judgment," yes. But "genius?" Not by a long shot.

fmm| 11.15.11 @ 12:15PM

Good thought provoking article. Newt does have many parallels to Churchill but appears to be more self serving; Churchill remained in service to his country while Newt has not. One might wonder if today's England would realize the worthiness of a Churchill; the same can be asked about the USA.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 12:23PM

Churchill got chased out of town. He didn't stay in service. They begged him to come back.

DRed| 11.15.11 @ 3:30PM

Churchill was a member of Parliament throughout the 1930s. He wasn't chased out of town. For a variety of reasons his own party just didn't want him as part of the government. Newt quit.

albert constantine jr| 11.15.11 @ 9:12PM

Actually, as I recall, Newt resigned during the Clinton impeachment scandal when his own adultery scandal arose, making him less effective (I see to recall Larry Flynt paying 6 figure bounties for stories of republican infidelity). He was briefly replaced by Bob Livingston, whose own adultery scandal surfaced, causing him to resign. He was eventually replaced by Denny Hastert. I seem to recall that both Newt and Livingston were trying to set an example whereby if your personal dishonorable scandal was going to make you an ineffective as a leader, one way to begin to restore honor was to resign, making room for one who would not be so ineffective. Since Clinton failed to follow that example (and thanks to a 500 Florida voters who didn't hang their chads), we as a nation were spared the spectacle of President Gore (which might have turned out to be Clinton's most significant accomplishment of his second term).

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 12:22PM

As I looked through the comments, the content of this article has come full circle.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 12:23PM

Good read, Jeffrey.

RJ| 11.15.11 @ 12:31PM

Excellent article, Jeffrey.

Newt has gotten his Churchillian moment. Now it is up to the American people to decide what they want.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 12:36PM

I don't think you can find a Conservative that will tell you anyone is better informed than Newt.

Its just that we all know what's coming when the Chicago smear machine zeroes in on him..

Bill| 11.15.11 @ 12:51PM

O.K., I'll give Newt a "C", based on his record on climate change and fiscal policy.

Interested Conservative| 11.15.11 @ 1:12PM

The climate change issue he can easily fix, but what is the issue with his fiscal policy - TARP? Just curious.

Interested Conservative| 11.15.11 @ 1:12PM

The climate change issue he can easily fix, but what is the issue with his fiscal policy - TARP? Just curious.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 1:47PM

There's no basis for his argument. Bill has a tendency to blurt out unfounded claims. Not to mention, if you listen closely, Newt was merely advocating for market based technological innovation in the commericial with Princess nancy.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 1:56PM

I give him an A+ for standing next to Rick Perry and not snickering at his fragmented rambling.

Jack London| 11.15.11 @ 12:55PM

Does this 'ease with which China can build factories' as Jobs said mean we'd welcome a high employee suicide rate as at Foxconn? How about suicide nets in American factories?

As for the comparison with Churchill, Gingrich certainly has his warmonger tendencies (but most American presidents have had) and an instinct to drop bombs on innocent people (ditto). Churchill was a dreadful domestic top politician – Gingrich would be the same (but not as bad as GW Bush).

MarkR| 11.15.11 @ 1:26PM

Yea they all want to drop bombs on innocents-thanks for the deep insight. I imagine they all just sit around and think what innocent group of dummies can I slaughter today. The old USA -if it would just stay home and get together and cumbaya all would be well- hell 9/11 wouldnt a happened or Pearl Harbor! Oh I know Iraq was a choice war and we just wanted their oil right? Its all for Haliburton and geo political interests be dam-ed- and of course Saddam never posed a threat to anyone right? Yea I know the talking points. Paulista maybe?

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 1:48PM

Hey, where is all that oil we went to Iraq for?

I havent seen any of it, and gas prices keep going up.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 1:55PM

You didn't know? If we just leave our enemies alone they'll forget their evil ways and learn to love us...

George S| 11.15.11 @ 2:53PM

No, what Jobs was alluding to is that when the US imposes regulatory obstacles to new industries, those industries will first go to the places where those regulations do not exist if they intend to stay in business.

Jack London| 11.15.11 @ 3:07PM

Huh? That's what I said George. We have regulations that stop plants like Foxconn's operating here. It's just a shame that Jobs wasn't more like Bill Gates, who has used his vast wealth for much good. Jobs sent his manufacturing to the most deregulated, cheapest exploitative places he could find.

Simon Templar| 11.15.11 @ 6:25PM

Apparently, not by choice but necessity..you seem to have missed that part.

What is it exactly that you do not understand about running a business, remaining competitive, and making the best profit you can for your stockholders and investors? Oh, none of it.

Yeah, that would explain a lot.

BTW, you are such a stupid useful idiot, you missed the biggest one of all here, we are not advocating overseas manufacturing or exploitation of anyone.

We are advocating that these jobs and companies come back here. The only way to do this is stop what is driving them out. An insane corporate tax system and an insane industrial regulation system. Does that mean no regulation at all, of course not, just a review and withdrawal of that which is too burdensome, stupid, and unproductive.

Jack London| 11.16.11 @ 2:42AM

So you think we can compete with the sweatshops of Indonesia, India, China etc? How would we do that? Where would the workers come from to work for a few dollars a day for backbreaking work?

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 1:04PM

Clint the Ron Paul Fellatio Tsar Canned Post Number 56 (posted 3 times today, so far):

"These RINO-CINO Bibi ButtBoy's Are Fighting A Stalling Action.

Notice These RINO-CINO Israel Firster Agendists Spend Little To No Time Talking About Their Specific Candidate's Issues.

Tool Job's The RINO-CINO Israel Firster ButtBoy ,Who Said He Will Vote For Mittens Romney.

The Israel Firster Bibi ButtBoy, Con Job Is Upset Because His Mancrush Bibi Isn't Running For President.

We Are Being Set Up By These Israel Firster RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here."

"They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge."...Thomas Brackett Reed

"Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools, because they must say something."...Plato

Learn from history, Clit. Best to shut one's "mouf" & be assumed an idiot than to open it & remove all doubt, which you so brilliantly do here daily.

THIS, fellow conservatives, is why libertarians get the bum rap they do. Douchecanones like Jack & Clit are the Stormfront/Alex Jones/9-11 "Troofer" types. There are few, a couple on Townhall.com, where I'm also a regular, who're good people. And they've been regulars there for a while as well. I've pointed them to more than a few of Clint & Jack's diatribes & the overwhelming vibe I got from them was disgust. Hmmmm. Seems to be a common opinion about these 2 pieces of human excrement.

But look at it THIS way, fellow conservatives. At least neither of them has started with the whole "only 300,000 Jews died in WWII & it was because of syphilus" line of bullshit. I've seen that one before. Not here, but on other sites. Let's see if our resident Herodotus of Am Spec, Jack, can shed any light on these newly found revelations of a Holocaust hoax. How bout it Jack? Are you halfway batshit crazy or ALL the way?

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 1:57PM

Oh Really, Bloviatin' RINO-CINO Israel Firster Bibi Butt Boy, Con Job.

While You Have Bloviated About Your Swabbie Dentist Old Man All The Time, My Combat Officer Dad Led Recon-Rangers In A Task Force That Liberated One Of Those Nazi Death Camps On The First Army Line Of March.
He Liked Dr.Ron Paul & Had Little Respect For You Bloviatin' Neo-Chickenhawks.

" GOP Candidates in Four-Way Dead Heat

Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are in a dead heat as the top choices for Iowans likely to attend the Jan. 3 Republican presidential caucuses.

A Bloomberg News poll shows Cain at 20 percent, Paul at 19 percent, Romney at 18 percent and Gingrich at 17 percent among the likely attendees with the caucuses that start the nominating contests seven weeks away. "

The Tea Party Steps On Bibi ButtBoy,ConJob's Face.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 3:09PM

Is your name now Jack? No? Then shut your fetid pie hole.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 3:44PM

Let's See Ya Make Me, RINO-CINO Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk, Con Job.

W.T. Foxtrot| 11.15.11 @ 4:25PM

We don't have to "make you," Clint.

That's because you've already received your punishment.

You've been condemned to spend the rest of your life with someone you loathe:

Yourself.

JFGalt| 11.15.11 @ 1:09PM

Mr Gingrich is no Churchill. This article sounds more like a PR piece meant to push his presidential aspirations forward. Shame on AS. Mr Gingrich showed us what he is really about years ago and is why he was relegated to the backwaters. What he is about is the same as before. He is no renaissance man. He does have a place in discussions but he is no president.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 1:52PM

What was he about before? Please provide the premises to your assertions.

Paul McGrath| 11.15.11 @ 1:21PM

also am a Newt supporter and believe he has as good a chance as anyone to beat Obama. But my concern is this, and I noticed it last night on Hannity (I think).

It is that he can come across as very smug, almost cocky, and now that he is a force to be reckoned with in the Republican primary, this trait is becoming more evident. And this is EXACTLY what led to his downfall in 1998, a mere four years after his great triumph of 1994. His advisors need to tell him to cool it a little bit, to show a little more humility.

If he gets the nomination, then comes across as arrogant and condescending during the general election, he may turn off too many moderates.

os| 11.15.11 @ 1:25PM

Lord is just another FlavorofthemonthBot. He's quickly running out of flavors to choose from though.

Bill| 11.15.11 @ 1:37PM

Newt is a great debater, but being the President, is not just nice talk, he needs to clarify his position on global warming and be prepared to defend his martial life. He needs to forget the clumsy idea of bipartisan, there is no such thing as bipartisan, conservatives never negotiate, only the liberals do. That's why those liberals are disposable.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 1:50PM

His Martial Life? What exactly is that. I believe he addressed the myth in his marital life, but still nothing on his martial life. You may be on to something.

His position on global warming has been clear. He's for market based innovation in the technologies that can lead us away from petroleum.

Bill| 11.15.11 @ 2:23PM

I like Newt but he married more than once, and he divorced his wife while she was lying in her bed (I think she was sick).He prompted the global warming issue with Nancy Pelosi. Otherwise, Newt will make a good VP, no doubt.

Purpleguy| 11.15.11 @ 6:38PM

Yes, she was dying of cancer for cripes sake ....! Now that's a kinda guy I could follow, highest morals and so compassionate - NOT. He's a snake in the grass just waiting to BITE that hand that feeds him.

Seek| 11.15.11 @ 6:53PM

That was 30 years ago. My main problem with Newt is that he really believes we are a Biblical republic and that "secularists" are our greatest threat.

Logos| 11.20.11 @ 7:12PM

The ex-wife asked Newt for a divorce months before she was hospitalized. Oh, and the ex is very much alive. Their daughter recently set the ecord straight, but Obama trolls are so scared of Newt ,they continue to perpetrate the lefty lie.

Bill| 11.15.11 @ 1:48PM

That's why I'm a big fan of Gov. rick Perry, who vows to crack down on bureaucracy, and has a solid plan to reduce the size of the government and balance the budget. Similar to Dr. Ron Paul, Rick Perry will eliminate three Dept. (education, energy, and commerce). His flat tax plan will reduce the burden of the American taxpayers, who have been abused by the IRS for decades. He will cut spending and get us out of debt. He will defund the planned parenthood and reinstate the DADT policy in the military. He will help states crack down on the gay marriage and the illegal immigration. He will strengthens our military and restore our pride in the world. He will unite America on the motto: "In God, we trust." As a Christan, I love Gov. rick Perry for his courage, honest, and hard work he put in to save America. I'll wash his feet.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.15.11 @ 1:51PM

Problem with Perry is that he can't put together words to form a complete sentence. That's a major disability against a guy like Obama.

Bill| 11.15.11 @ 3:20PM

The liberal media waged a war against Rick perry because they are afraid of Perry, having a solid conservative record on fiscal and social issues, Perry will defeat Obama in a landslide. Perry is from the great South, the land of conservatism, that's a major setback for the liberals.

Purpleguy| 11.15.11 @ 6:39PM

The "land of the South" ... you mean LBJ country and country bumpkin Bush? hahahaha

Bill| 11.15.11 @ 3:36PM

At least, Rick Perry does not lie, unlike Barack Obama.

Purpleguy| 11.15.11 @ 6:44PM

Oh really, so the Southgate entrance "Rock" to his ranch never had the "N" word on it, or at least he didn't "see it" .. ya, right ....

The Intermediary| 11.15.11 @ 2:00PM

You're late. This was discussed on MSNBC last night.

Bill| 11.15.11 @ 2:18PM

Gov. Rick Perry is not a talker, he is a doer. He has a solid conservative record unlike nobody among the GOP contenders. The reason we don't see how articulate Rick Perry is because those moderators in the debate keeps interfering Rick Perry, and pushing him to the limit so that he stumbles. Rick Perry is the real deal, nobody else. Rick Perry=Ronald Reagan.

Purpleguy| 11.15.11 @ 6:41PM

Oh, then you didn't see his act in NH, where I swear he was drunk, hopping around and almost dancing wide-eyed and smiling like a roaring drunk. That Perry? omg, stop it ..my side hurts.

Naturalborn Texicanette| 11.15.11 @ 2:40PM

Perry is my first choice. I'd rather have someone with the experience and proven track record - which Perry has in spades! - than some one who is a great debater.

Actions speak louder than words.......

Unfortunately, American has become so celebrity-ized that they don't know a hard working, truely experienced, wholey competent candidate when the see one.

I go for substance...not for show. And Perry has plenty of substance!

P.S. does the "adoring" look Romeny gives each of the candidates during the debates bother anyone else besides me? Or is he really just smirking.......?

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 2:48PM

Clint Pukes:

"Oh Really, Bloviatin' RINO-CINO Israel Firster Bibi Butt Boy, Con Job.

While You Have Bloviated About Your Swabbie Dentist Old Man All The Time, My Combat Officer Dad Led Recon-Rangers In A Task Force That Liberated One Of Those Nazi Death Camps On The First Army Line Of March.
He Liked Dr.Ron Paul & Had Little Respect For You Bloviatin' Neo-Chickenhawks."

Who the hell in the army calls themselves "Recon-Rangers?!" In WWII, they were Rangers. In Vietnam, they were LRPS. And you are a freaking fraud. And if your story was worth a shit, you'd know the name of the camp & post your Dad's service link, as I did for mine. You are a valor thief, & therefore a despicable piece of shit. Rot in pieces, asshole.

Buck O'fama| 11.15.11 @ 3:36PM

Clit looks like a valor thief to me.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 3:46PM

Indeed! Disgusting beyond words. "Traitorous" sounds almost right.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 4:40PM

What's Disgusting Is A Neo-Chickenhawk Israel Firster , Son Of A REMF Dentist, Like Con Job, Daring To Question The Combat Record Of A Real American Combat Warrior Like My Dad.

You're Neo-Chickenhawk , Chickenshit Garbage, Con Job.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 5:28PM

Post the link or shut the f**k up, valor thief.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 5:44PM

Aw , The Little Neo-Chickenhawk Son Of A REMF Dentist Is Crybabying Again.

Your Old Man Ain't Got Any Valor, Just A Drill & A Spit Sink.

Get Bent , You Little Piece Of Garbage.

Look Up The 102nd Cavalry Group Israel Firster Traitor Bastard Punk Con Job.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 5:55PM

A name, liar. And a link to his records & citations. Otherwise, you're still full of shit & a liar. And you couldn't carry my Ole Man's jockstrap. Bet you carry Jerry Sandusky's pretty well though.

NAME & RANK OF YOUR FATHER, CLINT! Prove that you're not a valor thieving, lying, seditious, traitorous piece of trash. SURELY there's an online database with this info. If its so easy to find for a "REMF" dentist on the Saratoga in Tonkin Gulf, then it should be easy to find for an officer as supposedly highly decorated as your Dad.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 6:14PM

Do Some Homework, Son Of A REMF Dentst, Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk, Pussy Con Job.Your Old Man Got No Balls For A Jockstrap To Hold.

The Saratoga Wasn't Involved In Either Naval Engagement Of The Vietnam War. It Was McCain's Carrier & Had A Fire.

Now, Go Find An Old Wartime "Life" Magazine & Look For The Guy On The Cover In The Turret Of A Recon Armored Greyhound,Waving In Front Of The Arc De Triumph.

Oooor , Look Up Old Newspapers From WWII.
That Picture Of Dad,Was On All The Front Pages Of Newspapers.

Orrrr Read "Is Paris Burning". That'as My Dad, In Front Of Notre Dame Cathedral, Reporting In The They Beat LeClerc's Frogs Into Paris.

Oooor, Find A Copy Of The Operational History Of The 102nd Cavalry Regiment.

Get Busy Little Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk Pussy.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 6:51PM

"The Saratoga Wasn't Involved In Either Naval Engagement Of The Vietnam War. It Was McCain's Carrier & Had A Fire.

That was the Oriskanay, dumbshit.

"On 11 April 1972, Saratoga sailed from Mayport en route to Subic Bay, and her first deployment to the western Pacific. She arrived in Subic Bay on 8 May and departed for Vietnam the following week, arriving at "Yankee Station" on 18 May for her first period on the line. Before year's end, she was on station in the Tonkin Gulf a total of seven times: 18 May to 21 June; 1 July to 16 July; 28 July to 22 August; 2 September to 19 September, 29 September to 21 October; 5 November to 8 December; and 18 December to 31 December. She had been reclassified as a "Multi-purpose Aircraft Carrier" (CV-60) on 30 June 1972.

During the first period, Saratoga lost four aircraft and three pilots. On the plus side, on 21 June, two of her F-4 Phantoms attacked three MiG 21s over North Vietnam. Dodging four surface-to-air missiles, they managed to down one of the MiG aircraft. Saratoga's planes attacked targets ranging from enemy troop concentrations in the lower panhandle to petroleum storage areas northeast of Hanoi. On her second line period, she lost an F-4 to enemy fire northeast of Hanoi with the pilot and radar intercept officer missing in action. During this period, her aircraft flew 708 missions against the enemy.

On 6 August, Lieutenant Jim Lloyd of VA-105, flying an A-7 Corsair on a bombing mission near Vinh, had his plane shot out from under him by a SAM. He ejected into enemy territory at night. In a daring rescue by helicopters supported by CVW-3 aircraft, he was lifted from the midst of enemy soldiers and returned to the Saratoga. On 10 August, one of the ship's CAP jet fighters splashed a MiG at night using AIM-7 Sparrow missiles.

During the period 2 September to 19 September, Saratoga's aircraft flew over 800 combat strike missions against targets in North Vietnam. On 20 October, her aircraft flew 83 close air support sorties in six hours in support of a force of 250 Territorials beleaguered by the North Vietnamese 48th Regiment. Air support saved the small force, enabled ARVN troops to advance, and killed 102 North Vietnamese soldiers. During her last period on station, Saratoga's aircraft battered targets in the heart of North Vietnam for over a week.

Saratoga departed "Yankee Station" for Subic Bay on 7 January 1973."

http://navysite.de/cvn/cv60.htm

Try again, douchebag.

Teufelhunden| 11.16.11 @ 10:55AM

102 calvary regiment? but below you said a different unit.

you saying your dad was in every unit that was in a major battle?

was your dad captainamerica?

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 4:30PM

Read "Is Paris Burning", You Asshole.

That's My Dad, First In, A Half Hour Before LeClerc Frogs Got In.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 5:29PM

Sure, Clint. And the "Jack Ryan" character of Tom Clancy fame was based on MY Dad.

Gimme an f-ing break.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 4:27PM

Duuuuuuhhhh, Neo-Chickenhawk, Chickenshit Bloviator, Con Job. !

They Were Companies D,E & F of The 2nd Ranger Battalion assigned to my Dad,Who Was A Commander In The 38th Mech.Recon Squadron.

My Dad & His Troopers Fought From Normandy,To Paris, To The Bulge, Through Germany, To The Link Up In Chechoslovakia With The Russkies.

He Retired A Light Colonel With The Fouragere, The Croix De Guerre From France, The Bronze Star, The Silver Star And The Presidential Unit Citation For Being The First Unit To Hold On The North Shoulder Of The Bulge At Monschau & Konzen Station.

Do Your Homework, You Israel Firster Traitior Bastard Mouth, Con Job.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 5:27PM

If he recieved all those decorations, surely you can produce a link to his service records or citations for said decorations, as I have for MY father. Until you do so, you're a lying valor thief. IF you do so, then I'll apologize. How's that sound, fraud boy?

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 5:46PM

Asked & Answered Little Neo-Chickenhawk Israel Firster, Son Of A REMF Dentist, Con Job.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 5:58PM

Oh, so there ARE no records to back up your bullshit? Color me shocked. Lying valor thief.

You answered NOTIHNG. All I've got is your rather worthless word. I can at least post a link to my Father's service record. YOU, however, can't seem to do so. Funny that some swabbie dentist can be found on internet databases, but not a supposedly highly decorated combat officer. How very odd indeed.

Teufelhunden| 11.16.11 @ 10:49AM

all silver star recipients are listed in the roster. that would mean your dad is listed.

wanna try again?

Bill| 11.15.11 @ 3:04PM

A Commander in Chief must have records, commitment, and character. Gov. Rick Perry has all of those. Besides, if Rick Perry wins the GOP ticket, he can expose Obama in the debates, showing america how phony and moron that Obama is.

Purpleguy| 11.15.11 @ 6:01PM

Rick "Oops" Perry? Omg, stop it .. i can't stop laughing that bubble head couldn't find his way out of a paper bag.

tonypal| 11.15.11 @ 11:21PM

Next year I'm visiting New Montana. I hear that's one of those 57 states our brilliant president visited a few years ago. When he got there, he "uh, um, uh" and went home.

The Obama Timeline | 11.15.11 @ 3:43PM

I eagerly accept the argument. There is far too much at stake to nominate someone like Mitt Romney, who has neither the spine nor the philosophical consistency to challenge Obama. The nation cannot afford to exchange a liberal for a liberal-lite, worse yet see that liberal-lite lose. No, we are not facing Hitler, as did Churchill. But what we are facing may be worse, because Hitler was a clear and present danger, while collectivism is a stealth destroyer.

Bill| 11.15.11 @ 3:48PM

America has had enough of Obama, now is the time for Rick Perry, a proven leader and problem solver. Rick Perry will restore the pride of America, the "shining city in the hill."

Purpleguy| 11.15.11 @ 5:28PM

You mean Rick "Ooops" Perry that can't hang 2 parts of a sentence together ? That Rick Perry... omg ... hahahahaha, stop it... im on the floor. can't remember what Fed agencies he wants to dismantle... really? President? ahhahahahahaha

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 5:30PM

As opposed to Mr. Fifty Seven States? You know? that dude who needs a teleprompter to talk to a classroom full of 4th graders? Our current "president?"

Purpleguy| 11.15.11 @ 6:11PM

Ya, the man who got Bin Laden with HIS policies, instigated the downfall of Qaddafi for

Purpleguy| 11.15.11 @ 6:13PM

i think you know where this was going... but AS cut off the rest... OMG, Perry "Ooops, I can't even remember my own plan " Perry for President? Stop it, OMG, my side hurts ... hahahahaha

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 6:23PM

Can you read? I said nothing about Perry.

Purpleguy| 11.15.11 @ 6:33PM

No, but I did, and you responded to my diatribe against Perry ... sooo, what part of that did you miss? Or are you running for President next ....

Teufelhunden| 11.16.11 @ 10:47AM

ovomit didnt have any policies. he used those left by Bush.

instigated the downfall of qadaffi? is that why he was forced into it by hillary while in s America and then said " NATO and the UN would LEAD"?

shannon | 11.15.11 @ 3:53PM

Can Gingrich win...that's what counts. America needs to fire Obama, if Gingrich cannot carry the vote than he may be a great statesman but not what America needs. www.takingonissues.com

Mazzuchelli| 11.15.11 @ 4:38PM

As stated in other threads, saw Newt a couple of months ago in Iowa. He took questions for over an hour. He inspired my fence-sitting independent of a husband to offer his services for Newt's campaign.
As for Paul, he may take Iowa, but he won't be able to take teleprompter jesus.

gary siebel| 11.15.11 @ 4:57PM

I said early on that Nute would do some damage, but is unelectable. Obama wouldn't even have to mention Nute, he would just let Clinton go after him. What better person to do it? Clinton would have no need for restraint, and Nute deserves a serious smash mouth for his hypocritical attacks against Clinton for sexual behavior while in office. Nute wouldn't stand a chance.

Time for a candidates review:

Romney: will be too damaged by Repub infighting to beat Obama. He is style likely to get the nomination however, despite the attacks against him regarding flip-flopping, which are just cloaks for the evangelicals distaste for Mormonism.

Cain: the only explanation for Cains surge is the evangelicals distaste for Mormonism (see Romney, above); otherwise I would have to include his supporters are completely insane, instead of only partially so. (Note how the fervency of his support has declined in TAS forums.)

Hunstman: who?

Bachman: didn't have the wit to run on her main issue (anti-gay marriage) and waded in over her head where she can only tread water, not truly swim.

Gingrich: Foolishly imagines that we will forget his hypocrisy and $500,000 line of credit at a jewelry store (but hey, maybe that's what his intern/wife needs to wear to turn him on when she is naked). This is a particularly bad time with the lectorate to have large lines of credit at Tiffany's.

Santorum: why is he even running? Maybe a Huntsman/Santorum debate is in order?

Ron Paul: consistently himself, which is what worries everybody.

Perry: as I said before, open mouth and stick in foot, leg soon to follow, but I didn't think he could manage the whole leg. Surprise, he's now up to his chest! Perry is challenging Paul for the Aluminum Hat position. He is so unbelievably ridiculous that he probably embarrassing even Texans, and could lose the governorship there next time around (of course, Dems there would have to run someone who wasn't a spineless anti-gun type -- how likely is that?

Simon Templar| 11.15.11 @ 6:32PM

Ah, the Gary troll, was wondering when you would show up and offer us another smarmy, meaningless droll from our Gary the troll.

Purpleguy| 11.15.11 @ 4:58PM

Hahahahahaha ... im falling on the floor ... omg.. stop it ...

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 5:24PM

Clit the Valor Thief Bawls:

"What's Disgusting Is A Neo-Chickenhawk Israel Firster , Son Of A REMF Dentist, Like Con Job, Daring To Question The Combat Record Of A Real American Combat Warrior Like My Dad.

You're Neo-Chickenhawk , Chickenshit Garbage, Con Job."

There is no rear echelon at sea, douchebag. Especially not when one was on Yankee Station. Tell me, valor thief, when will you post the links to your Dad's service record, as I did? Or are you too busy googling up more bullshit lies to besmirch the memories of our heroes?

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 5:54PM

Asked & Answered Little Bloviatin' Neo-Chickenhawk Israel Firster Pussy.

Unless Your REMF Dentist Old Man Was At The Gulf Of Tonkin Incident Or The Battle Of Dong Hoi, He Never Had A Shot Fired At Him In Anger.

While My Big Bro Was A Decorated Nam Combat Infantry Platoon Leader, Your REMF Old Man Was Playing With His Little Drill & His Spit Sink.

Now, Go Play With Daddy's Combat Drill.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 6:00PM

What do you think he did? Just some fillings? Or maybe fixed up shot up aircrew.

Got a link to your "Big Bro's" citations too, or is finding them proving to be as elusive as those of your Dad?

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 6:36PM

I Don't Give My Family's Personal Information Over A Blog To Neo-Chickenhawk Chickenshit Crazies Like You, Con Job.

You Wanna Mess With My Family, You Come Through Me.

You Can Find Me At Monthly Valley Forge Tea Party Meetings at The Phoenixville Country Club.

Now, Go Fondle Daddy's Drill, Asshole Israel Firster Pussy,Con Job.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 6:52PM

Funny, I'm not worried about you messing with me. Hence the reason I posted my Dad's name & a link to his service record. You're just terrified that people will find out you're a raging fraud.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 8:50PM

Funny, I Think You're An Internet Crazy.

Hence, You Hide Behind Your REMF Daddy's Spit Sink .

Come To The Phoenixville Country Club For A Vallley Forge Tea Party Meeting And See If You Say That To My Face.

We'll See How Crazy You Are, Neo-Chickenhawk Coward,Con Job.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 8:57PM

I invited you, if you remember correctly. Ball's in your court, little guy.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 9:58PM

You Are An Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk Coward,Who Knows Where To Find Me, Gutless Pussy With The Big Mouth, Con Job.

Now, Give Me A Legal Reason To Defend Myself & We'll See What A Total Bloviatin' Pussy You Are, Con Job.

Come & Get Me Bibi ButtBoy, Con Job.

Teufelhunden| 11.16.11 @ 10:34AM

i dont give my families personal info on the internet is an EXCUSE! a COPOUT!

now go back to rimjobbing yourt master ovomit BOY!

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 6:26PM

I Think Your Old Man Was A REMF Dentist,While My Big Brother Was Fightin' In Up Close & Personal Ass Kickin' Combat Against NVA Troops.

He Was A 1st Battalion Double Deuce Black Scarf Regular With The 4th Infantry.

First Into Cambodia, Veteran Of Numerous Air Assaults, And Ambush Assignments. The Battle Of The Rock,Etc.

Now Get Busy Little Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk Pussy, Con Job.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 6:54PM

How nice. Until you post some links, you're a liar.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 8:43PM

Asked & Answered

Now, Say That To My Face, Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk Coward, Con Job.
You Know Where To Find Me, Gutless Coward Neo-Chickenhawk, Con Job.

You Got Enough Info To Figure Out,Who My Dad & Brotheer Are.

Apparently, You're As Big A Buffoon, As You Are A Coward Crazy.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.15.11 @ 8:58PM

You're a liar. I posted name, rank, stations of duty, & a link. You've posted bullshit. You're a fraud & valor thief until you do otherwise.

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 9:28PM

Asked & Answered

Now, Say That To My Face, Israel Firster Neo-Chickenhawk Coward, Con Job.
You Know Where To Find Me, Gutless Coward Neo-Chickenhawk, Con Job.

You Got Enough Info To Figure Out,Who My Dad & Brotheer Are.

Apparently, You're As Big A Buffoon, As You Are A Coward Crazy.

1-2 Punch| 11.16.11 @ 11:40AM

@Clint E-toughguy huh? Pathetic!

Clint | 11.15.11 @ 9:18PM

Israel Firster Con Job, You Are Not Only The Neo-Chickenhawk Chickenshit Crazy Son Of A REMF Dentist, You Have To Be Spoonfed Information.

"August 25, 1944: Paris, France — "Dammit colonel, I'm looking up at Notre Dame!" became the battle cry of an on-going feud between two former Guard units as each claim the bragging rights as to which American unit was the first to actually enter the city of Paris just as the Germans abandoned it. The statement was made by Captain William B....le, a New Jersey Guardsman, commanding Troop A, 38th Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron to his commander, Colonel Cyrus Dolph III, commander of New Jersey's 102nd Cavalry Group, the famous "Essex Troop" to which the 38th was assigned. The 38th was organized in 1942 from former Guardsmen of Iowa's 113th Cavalry Regiment. After the 38th was assigned to the 102nd in England it gained some New Jersey Guardsmen (including B.....le) too. The other half of the 102nd Groups' compliment was it's own 102nd Cavalry Reconnaissance Squadron, also from New Jersey. Ever since landing on Omaha Beach on June 8th (D+2 after "D-Day") the Group had been an important part of the scouting 'eyes' of the Allied advance through Normandy. On this date each squadron was scouting ahead for major components of the Allied armies. The 38th was patrolling for the 4th U.S. Infantry Division and the 102nd scouting for the French 2nd Armored Division. Both entered Paris at about the same time by two different routes. While Buenzle's statement gives strength to the 38th's claim, and the veterans of each claim to this day that their squadron was the "first," its safe to say that Guardsmen were indeed the "first in Paris."

Teufelhunden| 11.16.11 @ 10:32AM

copy and paste is proof of nothing about someones service if it doesnt LINK to their records.

my Father was in DDay and lasted all the ay thru to the end.

i have his discgarge papers. can you tell me what they were called back then?

my oldest brother served in the aircav in Vietnam

my second oldest brother spent 23 years in the Air Force

i served in Beruit, Kuwait, Iraq.

Teufelhunden| 11.16.11 @ 10:42AM

charlie company, 2nd batalion, 7th calvary of the 1st air cav div ws the FIRST in cambodia.

wanna try again liar

Gary B| 11.15.11 @ 6:36PM

"To make no mistake, no one is making some dopey comparison of Obama to Hitler. Please."

Mr. Lord, you will not make a comparison of Obama with Hitler, but I will. Obama is represents the greatest threat this nation has ever seen. Not in the military sense, of course, but as the mother of all Pied Pipers. He promises the one thing most humans long for: something for nothing. Given another term, he will lure the citizens of this country right down a communist/facist rat hole. And that's exactly how Hitler did it.

proreason| 11.15.11 @ 8:12PM

It's not what price Gingrich, it's what price is Gingrich willing to pay to win.

Because he is going to be Borked like there has never been a Borking before. The Cain takedown was a finger flick. The only thing comparable to what Newt is about to go through is what Palin went through in 2008.

Whether Newt is the next president depends on whether he can keep his cool as the historically unprecedented lies shower down on him like a Cat 5 hurricane.

POST American| 11.15.11 @ 9:32PM

---------------------FINAL WORD-----------------------

---------------TAVISTOCK '90's Show'----------------
-------------------EXTREME SAP OP-------------------
------------------------ALERT!!!--------------------------

Tavistock must be mining the files from
their golden days as experimenters on orphans
and inmates! --reaching for the third rail
of programming deserperation.

The premise of this article isn't even to
be broached on a full stomach.

Just some of the inventory n Ginigrich:

--------Globalist
------------RED China sellout presiding figure
----------------EUGENIST micro-chip front man
--------------------NAFTA pumper
-----------------------Police state advocate
--------------------------Sovietization proponent
------------------------------Toffler lobbyist

-and on and on and on. . .

Russell| 11.15.11 @ 10:12PM

As to the headline, Jeffrey can only plausibly be referring to Randolph or the eponymous bad Edwardian novelist.

Newt has clung to his principles with no more tenacity than his mistresses , and only low Whigs should consider embracing either.

John| 11.15.11 @ 11:22PM

Attention Newt Gingrich haters: if you don't have anything useful to say, then stay off of the posts on this site. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. I for one, admired Newt during the 1994 "Contract With America". For those of you who don't remember that, he delivered the vote on every single point he and his fellow House Republicans ran on. I remember being fascinated with the entire process and couldn't stop watching House of Representative votes on C-span. That being said, is he perfect? No. Does he have faults? Certainly. No candidate is perfect. However, (and I address this at the haters as well as the ignorant liberal Obama stooges) wouldn't you love to see this man debate Obama one on one? He would run circles around him. With all of his faults (and Newt has acknowledged and apologized for the most telling ones) he is brilliant and would lead this country out of the dependency, decline, and pessimism that has been present ever since the voters were fooled into voting for a fraudulent community organizer because he was deemed "smart". Really? By whose standards is the current POTUS smart? Let's see him take on someone who REALLY IS smart and then sit back and enjoy. There is no comparison to McCain either for the haters. McLame was simply that during the campaign and he used his best asset, Sarah Palin, in the worst way possible. I KNEW McCain would lose as soon as he wrapped up the primaries. I KNOW that Newt would win if he were able to win the Republican nomination. Okay libs and haters. Let's here it!

John| 11.15.11 @ 11:24PM

hear (sorry. Typing too fast)

tonypal| 11.15.11 @ 11:24PM

JamesPhiladelphia| 11.16.11 @ 2:11AM

Newt will make an excellent president.

POST American| 11.16.11 @ 5:58AM

"Georgia Globalists recruited Gingrich
back in the early 90's to co-opt, and circumvent
the GENUINE conservative revolution of 94."
-ALEX JONES
Infowars

----AGAIN, prime presiding, enabling figure
during the very, very heyday of the Globalist
RED China transfer, sellout and TREASON OP.

We are now living with the fruits of Newt's,
Bush's and Clinton's 'visionary' leadership.

-------IF 'living' is even the right word for
the state of our society, culture and economy.

Tammy Terrell| 11.16.11 @ 8:18AM

I completely agree with your assessment of Newt's possibilities. I hope he gets the nomination. To se the stuttering, stammering Obama up against the articulate and focused Gingrich would be breathtaking!

Stefan Stackhouse| 11.16.11 @ 10:19AM

Gingrich is to Churchill as a lightning bug is to lightning. Nevertheless, he may be the closest thing we've got. He's not THAT close to being Churchill, though.

1-2 Punch| 11.16.11 @ 11:38AM

To mods: When will the Ron Paul troll, Spam-bots be removed. Behavior that they have exhibited is not tolerated on any other forums. AmSpec comment section=Joke!

ReasonableViews | 11.16.11 @ 12:39PM

I suspect that the crisis Americans want rescuing from is the "Great Stagnation."

I was thinking of someone else - not Churchill, not Reagan or Thatcher. Someone who made a comeback after being ousted. Someone whose intellect was always respected, but his temperament was not. Someone whose self-discipline was questioned. This person returned after more than a decade in the wilderness, too, and eventually built the most valuable company in the world. http://bit.ly/rwQuhA

PCP Smoker| 11.16.11 @ 4:30PM

Good piece as always. The Newt strikes me as a "big idea guy." They are magnificent when coming up with the vision and the overall direction, but absolutely terrible when it comes to leading and managing.
After leading the 1994 revolution, Gingrich seems to have gotten bored with the whole thing. By 1998, his tenure, but not the conservative mission, was over.

I'll stick with the inarticulate, unprofessorial Perry.

Jennifer | 11.16.11 @ 5:44PM

I note your note (N.B., below, in small print). I used to enjoy this site and the comments but seldom come here now. If you wonder why, just read through the comments on this article. That so much insulting drivel is permitted is too hard to take. If you really monitored commments, it seems to me, the threads would be far easier to get through.

Bay Stater| 11.17.11 @ 1:56PM

This article looks silly today after what transpired yesterday, getting his hand caught in the Freddie Mac cookie jar...disgraceful.

Larry| 11.18.11 @ 12:33AM

This article hits the nail on the head. Churchill was a man of controversy throughout his political career: Gallipoli, his switching parties, his stance towards the Nazis, when he was a lone voice in the wilderness. The political classes in Britain trembled when he became Prime Minister. And Churchill proceeded to respond to Britain's crisis in WW II with sterling rhetoric and leadership. Gingrich is, in my humble opinion, the only man who has the historical and working knowledge and experience to be a statesman and rescue this country from its existential crisis.

POST American| 11.18.11 @ 1:38AM

-----------------BOTTOMLESS LINE-------------------

"America better watch it or
in a couple of decades we're
going to be a minstrel show
for the RED Chinese."
-GORE VIDAL
1985

In 2011 it's a --------DONE DEAL!

Gingrich was, is, and always will be a
RED China sellout Globalist, and an 'on the go'
EUGENICS promoter and SAP OP front man.

--------------------STEER CLEAR!----------------------

John B| 12.1.11 @ 9:29PM

Gingrich is a multiple adulator, trice married, resigned from congress and paid a $300,000 fine for ethics violations, received tens of millions for lobbying and influence peddling, and had a $500,000 credit line from Tiffany's. He is fat, old and totally inconsistent on his positions. And he proposed last week that we use 9 and 10 year old kids as janitors in our schools. The Obama crowd is
gleeful at the thought of running against this old has been. It is impossible that he is actually leading in the polls for the Republican nomination?

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