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The Real Case Against Sexual Harassment

When not busy going after Herman Cain, the media bomards us nonstop with unwanted sexual inuendo, banter, and other forms of lasciviousness.

Here we go again. A powerful, intelligent and charismatic conservative black man seeks high office in the United States of America, and is subject to the scurrilous slings and arrows that are always deflected from their liberal counterparts by the shields of the mainstream media. In our nation, where the election of Barack Obama might have signaled the end of endless claims of racism, the oldest stereotype of black men has once again reared its ugly head: it seems that black men are rapacious and insatiable satyrs; conservative black men, that is. And the latest target is Herman Cain.

Now I don’t know anything about Mr. Cain’s past, but in America, at least for the time being, a man is innocent until proven guilty, and sometimes, as in the case of Bill Clinton, even afterwards. Cain has repeatedly denied all claims of sexual harassment, but this is not good enough for the bloodhounds in the liberal media; a group who fastidiously and exhaustively combed the details of George W. Bush’s personal background — remember the demand for the release of his military dental records? — yet yawns complacently and/or howls indignantly when questions surrounding the history of Barack Obama are raised. No, instances of media double standards are almost too tedious to recount.

Yet what never fails to entertain is the media’s horror which attaches itself to accusations like those against Cain. As Rush Limbaugh often points out: it’s not whether or not a crime has been committed (by a conservative), it’s the seriousness of the charge. And in this nation, whose laws have been over-influenced by radical feminists and their ambulance-chasing accomplices, there is none so serious as sexual harassment.

But what exactly is sexual harassment? It is defined by the EEOC as “unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical harassment of a sexual nature.” From a website called equalrights.org, we find further edification in the following examples:

Verbal or written: Comments about clothing, personal behavior, or a person’s body; sexual or sex-based jokes; requesting sexual favors or repeatedly asking a person out; sexual innuendoes; telling rumors about a person’s personal or sexual life; threatening a person

Physical: Assault; impeding or blocking movement; inappropriate touching of a person or a person’s clothing; kissing, hugging, patting, stroking

Nonverbal: Looking up and down a person’s body; derogatory gestures or facial expressions of a sexual nature; following a person

Visual: Posters, drawings, pictures, screensavers or emails of a sexual nature

All of this is just another example of how insane our modern American society has become; how low we can sink when the idea of objective truth is disregarded. Instead of defending same, we are now daily faced with enacting laws protecting people’s feelings based on membership in whatever group to which they belong rather than concentrating on defending our rights as enumerated in the U.S. Constitution. How can we set standards governing sexual behavior in the workplace when the same or worse goes on continuously all around us?

Our children are exposed at very young ages to sex “education” in schools where they are bombarded with “posters, drawings, pictures… of a sexual nature.” Likewise any person who rides a bus or subway in this country who cannot look up without seeing ads for abortion clinics, erectile dysfunction aids, or just about any product whose manufacturer sees fit to promote its advertising with sexually alluring graphics.

As far as “Comments about clothing, personal behavior, or a person’s body; sexual or sex-based jokes; requesting sexual favors or repeatedly asking a person out…looking up and down a person’s body; derogatory gestures or facial expressions of a sexual nature,” could there be a more accurate description of 75 percent of network TV programming?

And when it comes to “inappropriate touching of a person or a person’s clothing; kissing, hugging, patting, stroking,” one only need watch the latest Super Bowl halftime hijinks or most any modern musical performance to believe that this behavior is not only to be welcomed, but very often rewarded.

Yet, we are to accept that this national immersion in sex is, and should be, welcome to the citizens of this country in all aspects of their lives save one: the sacred and federally protected workplace. Forget about the immeasurable harm done to our children and society at large; the very same things modern women are told to seek out and covet most of the day and night will not be tolerated for eight hours at work. So say the media and the feminists.

The truth is, I and millions of Americans are being harassed nearly every time we open our eyes, with unwanted and unwelcome sexual advances over our publicly owned airwaves and in the schoolrooms we pay for. And, unlike many women who claim to be victims of workplace persecution, we do not have the opportunity to simply quit and walk away from it all.

About the Author

Lisa Fabrizio is a columnist who hails from Connecticut (mailbox@lisafab.com).

Letter to the Editor View all comments (177) |

POST American| 11.9.11 @ 6:33AM

---BOTH sexual harassment, from BOTH sexes,
and in its various guises, and the culture
of extermination of the unborn ----as a an
acceptable 'lifestyle choice' ---INSURE
the dehumanization and destruction of society.

ALWAYS part of the EEL-EATS
'fave' takedown recipe ----from way back when.

-------------------------REALLY--------------------------

Jack in Wi| 11.9.11 @ 7:17AM

I used to run a pretty big outfit. On occasion I had to handle sexual harrasment claims by an employee against another one. In no case did I or my insurance company have to pay anyone off. You just make it clear that the people who harrass someone will be either terminated or severly repremanded. In the case of a person like Herman Cain I would have gotten rid of him immediatly. He was nothing but a lobbyists for the association. The only reason he wasn't fired was because he was black. One claim maybe, but 2, he should have been sacked.

I am also sick of people trying to justfy what Herman did. Gary Hart, John Edwards, Eliot Spitzer, Anthony Weiner, and Jim McGreevey all were hounded from office for ther sexual sins. Guess what? They were all liberal Democrats. We should be glad all this stuff came out now not later. Herman has been stinking up the primaries with his nonsese long enough. He knew he had all these skeletons in his past and never addressed them properly. He should get out and get lost and then lets have a real debate on the issues that this country needs.

Moe Blotz| 11.9.11 @ 7:59AM

Mr. Cain would not have been working for you Jack, he was the CEO when the alleged harassment occurred. You could not have terminated him. As far as justifying what Mr. Cain did, nothing is proved. We have allegations of impropriety, but no details are forthcoming. We have one salacious description of a Jenny cum lately star timer who needs some greenbacks for her progeny's new shoes. High tech lynching indeed.

Jack in Wi| 11.9.11 @ 12:28PM

Herman was a front man and lobbist for the National Restauant Ass. He could of been fired by the board of directors anytime for misconduct. He should have been.

Drunken Sailor| 11.9.11 @ 12:42PM

Jack, even they have to prove misconduct first don't they? Or did your company simply fire people on allegations without investigating the complaint?

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 1:24PM

I thought Jack was just "a working man."

However, I believe that he ran a big outfit. The National White People's Party is fairly big.

Jack in Wi| 11.9.11 @ 2:30PM

I was simple working man who built a large company over many years. I handled many hundreds of government contracts and did hundreds of millions of dollars in business. I made over 1 million a year on a couple occasions. Like a good capitalist I lost my shirt eventually and now waste my time trying to pound some sense into imbeciles on the internet.

Mike Hawk| 11.9.11 @ 4:35PM

The OW people are protesting predators like you Jack. They think you got your just dessert.

Moe Blotz| 11.9.11 @ 6:36PM

If you want something to pound, Jack, try pounding some sand up your arse.

mzk1| 11.11.11 @ 2:16AM

You weren't in defense contracting, were you? This may explain at lot.

Clint| 11.9.11 @ 6:11PM

You're A Serial Slandering Liar, Screwball Israel Firster Maniac,Tool Job.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

THKrupp| 11.9.11 @ 1:30PM

You dont have to have a reason to fire people, especially salaried employees. If the released employee can prove that the termination was due to sex, race, age etc etc then they can file a lawsuit against the company that released them.

mzk1| 11.11.11 @ 2:17AM

Even with "at will" states (and not all are) there is somehing called a "wrongful termination" lawsuit. It happened at the place I worked, and htey settled, and none of the above was involved.

C-GT| 11.9.11 @ 1:10PM

You said ass. Get ready for a harassment claim.

faxmatter| 11.10.11 @ 4:30PM

You are absolutely right C-GT. Jack blatantly referred to a private body part that no one on this message board should have to be exposed to. Obviously there are scores of women here who feel sexually assaulted and humiliated by Jack's crude and insensitive sexual language. If this were a work place, Jack would be liable to many claims of sexual harassment. In fact, I bet there are a number of women looking at this at work. That is shameful, blatant, demeaning hypocrisy Jack!!!

DTOM| 11.9.11 @ 9:31AM

Jack,

So nice of you to accept as factual all of the unsubstantiated claims of people not willing to bring forward their claims personally. Oops, except for Ms. Bialek, only the second woman I have ever heard of who FAILED in a paternity suit (against a former employer...)

But that would fit in with your undying support for the entirely accomplishment-free Dr. Ron Paul.

Name one bill he actually got passed, in his twenty years as US Rep. Just one, please.

Jack in Wi| 11.9.11 @ 12:39PM

Herman knew he had this problem and never addressed it. He knew women were paid off. Others have gone down for less. Herman said or did nothing in any way conservative. He has no record of anything except attacking Obama. We don't need one ignorant black man to replace another one. Both are in the palms of their advisors and handlers. They are both puppets of the elites and the military industrial complex. We need real change in this country not more of the same. Herman is more of the same. The Herman Cain reality show should come to an end. It has been a total flop. Alas the elite media will keep it going, to stop any real debate on the country's vast problems.

DTOM| 11.9.11 @ 4:18PM

Jack,

You still have yet to name a single, solitary, successful Ron Paul piece of legislation.

Are you generalizing that all black men are incapable of independent thought?

You yourself don't seem to be capable of independent thought. Does this make you a black man?

Excuse me, while I pull on my asbestos leisure suit...with deepest apologies to all men, black, brown, and white, that I compared any of you to the illustrious and illuminating Jack in Wisconsin.

Oh, and Jack, Mr. Cain's numbers seem to be holding steady. Have you forgotten to send out the memo that we are supposed to drop that [uppity Negro] Herman Cain [for trying to make time with that blonde white woman?]

[Please note my use of the TAS sarcasm voice font!]

Simon Templar| 11.9.11 @ 4:27PM

Jackboot, I have serious doubts you ever had a job, let alone managed a hot dog stand.

You are a ridiculous excuse for a troll. As far as Ron Paul goes..you lack the common sense to even act in his interest. Let's pretend for a moment you get your political wet dream and it comes true. Ron Paul is nominated! Jackboot, you're dumb as a stump. Within 30 seconds of nomination, every false accusation from Ron Paul fathered seven dozen children with hot alien women to he is a closet maturbator and has a thing for dolphins will come flying out of the MSM like a sunami. Guess what, you helped make it the norm and acceptable new discourse of politics. Of course, EVERYTHING said about him is absolutely true, start defending yourself RONNIE! Guilty until proven innocent! He was seen with dolphins on a vacation once in Florida. Damn him! PETA, I am sure they will be filing sexual harassment charges.

You are an idiot, Jack, frankly I am getting really tired of reading your post.

PCC| 11.9.11 @ 9:48AM

I ran a company that provided outplacement services to terminated employees. A female client reported that one of my employees made sexually suggestive remarks to her. I had no reason to doubt the veracity of her claim and every reason to protect the reputation of my firm. I fired him, with severence, the next day. No regrets.

DTOM| 11.9.11 @ 10:05AM

I'm sure you had no regrets.

I'm sure the outplacement had no regrets, either.

The stupid sap who got fired because of an alleged single comment or two? Maybe he did actually say what was alleged, maybe not. Your quick, unthinking action was just that, unthinking. It was based on innuendo and maybe was even actionable as a wrongful discharge. You apparently made no effort to discern any facts in the case.

That's nothing to be proud of. As to your fired employee, too bad for him. But to you he was just, what, a stupid man?

That's what's wrong with this whole thing - fact-free convictions.

Does PCC stand for "Politically Correct Chick?"

Drunken Sailor| 11.9.11 @ 12:43PM

No investigation? Your lucky he didn't sue you.

THKrupp| 11.9.11 @ 1:34PM

There does not have to be an investigation to fire anyone. As a manager I can fire anyone that I want at anytime. I dont need a reason at all. If the terminated employee thinks that the company terminated them because of their age, sex, race etc etc, the terminated employee has to be able to prove it and win in a lawsuit against the company.

Drunken Sailor| 11.9.11 @ 2:03PM

Sure you can fire anyone, IF, your willing to pay the umemployment. Otherwise if you fire them you better be able to prove your reason for firing them or you are going to lose. All the employee has to do is contest it, you the employer then have to prove misconduct occured.

But also remember when you fire someone, even if you don't contest the umemployment wages, your unemployment insurance is likely to go up.

The EEOC has a whole set of policies that cover just this topic.
http://www.bankersonline.com/o.....arass.html

THKrupp| 11.9.11 @ 2:56PM

Unemployment costs are cheap compared to a sexual misconduct lawsuit. Most of the time you dont even fire people. You give them the option of resigning with some sort of severence. Everyone that I have done this with accepts the severence package and signs their resignation.

PolishKnight| 11.9.11 @ 2:32PM

There could be a slander lawsuit against the employee with the company as a co-defendant.

That said, sadly, companies can opt on the side of "safety" and simply fire men for the slightest reason and that's precisely what they did until they started to lose a lot of qualified employees.

I'm amused that the pro-business nature of this forum is neatly balanced out with the gripes that the demographics of the states, and western society is leaning socialist. When business rewards socialists by throwing the few remaining pro-capitalist workers under the bus, it's rather hard to feel sorry for them when they, gasp, "go after the rich".

DTOM| 11.9.11 @ 4:25PM

My point was that Ms. PCC shouldn't seem so proud of what was an inherently cowardly and not-particularly smart move.

Polish,

Who is the "them" that you are having a hard time feeling sorry for? The socialists happy that pro-capitalists are under the bus? The pro-capitalists you think are the "go after the rich crowd?" Who the heck is who, to you? You are awfully cavalier in how you throw those reflexive pronouns around. A little clarity would be good.

Simon Templar| 11.9.11 @ 4:34PM

PC,

Well, I can only hope and wish that someday your in the same position and you have a such a boss with the same attitude. Poetic justice.

You need to learn a deep lesson. It is a wonder why the workplace is such a disaster in this nation with the likes of idiots like you running it?

Anthony| 11.9.11 @ 10:13AM

Gee Jack, I don't recall any of your righteous indignation over the above mentioned stable of Democrat reprobates, whose sins are far worse than Mr. Cains. When exactly did you condemn them here at TAS, as you have with Mr. Cain?
Hounded from office did you say? Gee, I seem to remember NBC's handwringing over airing the story of Ms. Broderick's accusations of RAPE by slick willie Clinton. NBC apologized ahead of time for having to air the story, after having sat on the story for weeks. Drudge was about to scoop NBC.
I also recall the kid gloves treatment many of them received, and how long it took the MSM to be dragged into reporting on their fellow leftists.
Do you actually think Mr. Cain is getting the same kid gloves treatment as those Ds got?
Oh by the way, you forgot Jessie Jackson, you remember Jessie, don't you, the Rev. who hit upon a worker at Rainbow, tried to pay her off, and is now the proud father of a baby girl?
You have selective indignation there Jack ole boy.

Jack in Wi| 11.9.11 @ 12:22PM

I was glad when all those liberals were hounded from office. I am also happy when a liar and dumb hack like Herman is rightly exposed. I said Herman was never going to be President weeks ago because he was ignorant of history, economics, foreign policy, monetary policy and fiscal policy. He could not name one Federal program that he would eliminate. His 999 plan was cooked up in bowels of the Federaal Reserve. It is a huge tax increase on the Middle Class and poor and huge tax decrease for the rich. He outright lied about about auditing the Fed in the debates and was outed by U tube within minutes. He is an complete shill of the Israeli Lobby calling for endless wars for Israel. He is totally incoherent on abortion. He was for TARP and all the other bailouts. There is nothing conservative about him and his personal life has now come forward, which he has not addressed except for, the usual Clinton defense of sluts and nuts.

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 1:40PM

Seig Heil, Jack. By the way, the UN (not a pro-Israel org) has recently noted that Iran is working on Nukes. You lie again, child rapist supporter.

Jack in Wi| 11.9.11 @ 2:41PM

The UN report is all innuendo and lies. It is the same kind of scenario they sold us on Iraq. Yellow cake, weapons of mass destruction, the next Hitler, in other words all the usual pro war propaganda . They were lies then and they are lies now. Iran is a backward 3rd world country who has no nuclear capasity to harm anyone. If they tried it they would be leveled and they know it. It is all about Israeli paronoia and the shameless lackeys of our goverment being slaves to the Israeli Lobby.

Meir Dagan, and Ephraim Halevey both former heads of the Mossad have said that an attack on Iran would be the most stupid thing possible. They have been joined by Yuval Diskin the former head of the Shin Bet and other memebers of the Israeli security services and military. An attack on Iran would be a huge risk to turn into a world war with huge consequences.

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 1:26PM

And, of course, Jack supports child rape and mutilation in Iran.

Jack in Wi| 11.9.11 @ 2:45PM

Of course Occam supports child killing and ethnic cleansing in Palistine by his Israeli pals. He also advocates genocide against millions of innocent Muslims. Even sane Israeli's are disgusted with this warmongering by the lunatics who run the country. There have been huge demonstartions in israel calling for an end to money being wasted in the left bank settlements and military and taking care of Israel's growing social problems.

Anthony| 11.9.11 @ 3:19PM

Rush just played a series of MSM whore's soundbites over the "tragedy" of Spitzer's demise. Yes, this promising uber litigating lefty's career was sadly ended before he could do so much more to destroy America.
I despise the MSM. I sent Mr. Cain some money, I want to shove Mr. Cain down the throats of the whores in the MSM.
Oh my, have I been overtly sexual here, does it make you "uncomfortable", tough s***.

Lee Ghume| 11.9.11 @ 6:42PM

Yo Anthony, I sent Mr. Cain $9.99 and may send him another cheque for the same amount. If I could afford $99.99 I would post it to him in a New York minute. Crackers for Cain, eh?

faxmatter| 11.10.11 @ 4:40PM

Yes, the MSM felt so sorry for Spitzer that they offered him a plum job hosting a CNN show, but I guess it got cancelled. What a sad story!

loulou| 11.9.11 @ 10:39AM

Why do I not believe that Jack ran anything, big or small? Face it, jack--you ran squat.

Jack in Wi| 11.9.11 @ 12:06PM

I hired and fired thousands of people over a more then 40 year career. A blowhard like Herm who couldn't keep his hands off the help would have been terminated immediatly. He only was a PR guy. They are a dime a dozen. I never had as bad a case as what has been reported about Herman. Like I say I never had to pay off anyone, because of an Employess actions. Most of these claims were minor which I resolved beween the parties involved.

Teaghan| 11.9.11 @ 2:48PM

Jack, do you work for the White House?

TrueBlue| 11.9.11 @ 4:59PM

You're right, he would have been terminated immediately, IF ANYTHING HAD ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

dsf| 11.9.11 @ 6:08PM

Thousands fired over 40 years? Even at 50 years, 1,000 people would be an average of 20 per year. You are one tough boss.

Mac Jehoff| 11.9.11 @ 6:46PM

That just shows us, dsf, that you dung have to be a prick to be the boss; but it sure helps.

mzk1| 11.11.11 @ 2:25AM

You fired thousands of people? What a jerk.

Drunken Sailor| 11.9.11 @ 12:44PM

Loulou,
Come on now. Be fair to Jack. He has obviously run some things quite a lot. His mouth comes to mind.

Grzmlyk| 11.9.11 @ 10:52AM

I'm guessing you LOVED those liberal Dems right up until their abuse of power became irrefutable.

I'm sorry, did you have evidence against Herman Cain to which the rest of us aren't privy?

Oh, that's right - allegations equal proof when it's a Republican whose ass is in the wringer.

Well I have news for you, Jack: I know for a fact that you yourself sexually harrassed four women in your "pretty big" outfit.

You should be made to pay.

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 1:27PM

Excellent point, Mr. G.

Certainly Jack should be subject to a hate speech lawsuit.

Jack in Wi| 11.9.11 @ 2:49PM

Occam I have never advocated hate or violence against anyone. I have always advocated peace, honest discussion and debate, and peaceful resolution of problems. You are the biggest warmonger on the site calling for endless war and nuclear genocide against innocent Muslims and other Middle eastern people. Shalom is a word your people like to use but seem to have forgotten the meaning of. Shalom! Shalom! Shalom!

Simon Templar| 11.9.11 @ 4:39PM

Just the fact that you never owned up to these allegations is enough for me, jack. You are guilty as sin. Just look at that denial, it raises more questions than it answers. Peace? Piece of what, jack? I bet you advocated piece.

Mac Jehoff| 11.9.11 @ 6:50PM

Ease up mates, Jack is just trying to pound a little sense into you imbeciles. oops. Does that include me?

Mike D.| 11.9.11 @ 7:07PM

Of course you have never written anything anti-semitic either, Jackboot.

Jack in Wi| 11.3.11 @ 4:28PM
"I have never writen any anti-semitic coments on this site"

Jack in Wi.| 9.10.11 @ 10:04AM
"Whatever good INDIVIDUAL Jews have done in the world pails in comparission to the bad of the last 200 years. Atheism, communism, Socialism, Nuclear Weapons, expansionist Zionism, nuclear blackmail and abortion"

No hate here!

Jack in Wi| 11.9.11 @ 10:18PM

Simon: That is not hate. It is the simple truth. I am a friend trying to get a group of people to change their ways. By the way the next time you quote me do it with the full quote and in context.

The Book of Leviticus tells Jews to treat the aliens among them as they treat themselves. It also tells them to love your neighbor as yourselves. The Book of Exodus tells Jews to treat the aliens and strangers among you well. Because after all you were strangers and aliens in the land of Egypt.

God gave the 10 Commandments first to the Jews. It seems that our Zionist brothers and sisters, both Jews and Christians have forgotten a few of God's Commandments.
Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou not bear false witness.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors property.
Isn't it time for you guys to get with God's program. Shalom.

Mike D.| 11.9.11 @ 11:47PM

And of course you know what God's program is don't you Jackboot? Second, my names not Simon Asshole. Third, Jew hater, that IS the context. Fourth, yeah, thats hate, but we'll let the audience decide. Get used to seeing that quote, your going to see it again.

Deborah D | 11.10.11 @ 6:31AM

"It seems that our Zionist brothers and sisters, both Jews and Christians have forgotten a few of God's Commandments." Then you go on to list: kill, steal, lying, coveting property...hmmm, generalize much? But, that's not hatred of Jews, right? And, how does that compare to the Palestinians? They don't provoke by doing those things, do they? Many would argue that's exactly what they do. Selective outrage is not believable.

Peppermint Tea| 11.9.11 @ 2:27PM

Jack, in the cases of Hart, Edwards, Spitzer, Wiener and McG, there was EVIDENCE.

Teaghan| 11.9.11 @ 2:50PM

And Clinton as well, Pep.Tea. Now, THERE is one who should have been prosecuted for sexual harrassment!

Jack in Wi| 11.9.11 @ 2:59PM

There were payoffs and other charges. Herman hasn't in anyway answered them in a timely manner. He lied his head off on the Fed in the debates and has no conservative credentials on any issue. He is Mr. War forever, Mr. Federal Reserve, Mr. incoherent on abortion, Mr. TARP and other bailouts, Mr new draconian sales taxes, and is totally ignorant of fiscal policy, economics, history, geography, and foreign policy. His sexual pecidillos are just more problems that he hasn't addressed. The country needs a honest discussion and debate on the issues. It can't get one as long as Herman is stinking up the process.

Alan Brooks| 11.9.11 @ 6:25PM

"it seems that black men are rapacious and insatiable satyrs."

Sure, that's how the species reproduces; that is hpw Africa was inhabited originally. Fabrizzio comes off like an ingenue.

Moe Blotz| 11.9.11 @ 6:52AM

Mzz. Fabrizio, El Rushbo always attributes to former speaker of the house Tom Foley the crime committed/seriousness of the charge quote.

Appleby| 11.9.11 @ 6:54AM

I once had a prominent English tv star insert himself into a private group in the lounge in which a woman was smoking a cigarette, and berate her ON MY BEHALF in loud and filthy language. He did not know me and had never said more than hello to me all weekend. When he stopped for breath, I said that I was far more disturbed by his filthy language than by her one cigarette, which stopped him cold; he immediately apologized and went back where he came from.

Mama taught us girls how to deal with boorish men, and she also taught us that if we behaved like ladies, we would be treated like ladies. One cannot expect to imitate the lowest class of men all day and then have a hissy fit when somebody treats one accordingly. Clean up your own act before you start pointing fingers, and bring back the concept of *ladylike* and most of this stuff will go away.

Jacob R| 11.9.11 @ 9:49AM

I'm sure you're right... When you learn to act like a lady you'll definitely be treated like one?

(uh oh..I said something a woman didn't like...PLEASE DON'T PUT ME ON PROBATION FOR HARRASSMENT!!!!)

Dean Wormer| 11.9.11 @ 10:47AM

As of now, you're on double secret probation.

Anthony| 11.9.11 @ 3:09PM

But Dean Worner, we checked with the guys over at the Jewish house to see if we got our facts straight, and they told us we're in the clear.
If I'm put on probation, I want Mandy to supervise me.

Doctor_X| 11.9.11 @ 7:23AM

I sit next to a Muslim middle aged women who has been in the US for about 5 years. One day while observing the young undergrad women in shorts (very short) and tight tank tops she said to me “I feel bad for young men in this culture having to be exposed to that” I asked her what she meant and she said that with women showing so much sexuality it must be hard for males to resist temptation.
I am NOT blaming the victims of true sexual harassment but the media does have its nerve showing us this type of behavior day in and out and then having the nerve to call the same behavior wrong!

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 1:28PM

Doctor---naw, we aren't animals raised in the culture that venerates pedophiles.

PolishKnight| 11.9.11 @ 2:50PM

A woman on a forum said it this way: "Women who are no longer second class (thanks to feminism) don't have to deal with second class men".

I was shocked by her statement because while she thought it was rather clever, it revealed an attitude that's pervasive in this culture: Men are second class citizens and most women here are unashamed to express that openly. They will rationalize it by saying that they make babies, or that women are entitled victims, or that they're "old fashioned" and that's what men want (and sadly, many men do WANT themselves to be second class disposable citizens.)

To these women, a man is "first class" or a "REAL MAN" when he is good looking and/or produces lots of money for her. In other words, he has to continually pay for his right to exist. The second he doesn't, he's like a fetus that doesn't have a father rich enough to pay child-support: it's subject to being aborted.

Men, children, and even each other become mere objects to be exploited for their narcissistic pleasure seeking lifestyle.

Pointing this out has gotten me the label of misogynist from time to time, but sadly in an era when women are encouraged to act badly, it's truely hard to like them here. Regarding the claim that some women are dressing sexily to get attention and fun watching men try to avoid a SH suit for gaping at them: No need to worry. Most of them have head gear (piercings, tattoos, etc.) that make them about as attractive as Lindsay Lohan on a bad day (which is to say, most days.) American friends of mine who go out people watching with me get all excited when a woman walks by and I chuckle that in Europe, such a woman would get maybe a 5 and not even noticed. Men here simply are so used to unattractive and hostile women that they have amazingly low standards.

Let's go back to Cain: I hope he survives because then, like Clarence Thomas, his experience may help them to sympathize with the common working class guy as compared to CEO's who happily toss working class men under the bus since their world is mostly full of cashing checks.

Grzmlyk| 11.9.11 @ 1:41PM

It is true that many - not all, by any means - young women want it both ways in today's culture - they wear practically nothing because they want to show off their bodies.

And then, when a guy walks by and has a totally instinctive response - namely, momentary ogling - they often pretend to be offended.

Unless, of course, the guy is young and REALLY good looking. Then it's "let the games begin."

rocket science| 11.9.11 @ 7:51AM

Was in a local shopping mall recently with wife and 2 teenage daughters. I was waiting for them next to an exit corridor which happened to have a Victoria Secrets store on the corner. As I began to look at the store windows and the posters for their merchandise displayed on girls not much older than my daughters, and barely covering their body parts, I began to feel like a pervert. I did not realize just how risque those posters really are. They are larger than life size and prominently and proudly displayed. It struck me how non-chalant people were as they walk by. As a society, we have almost become numb to the graphic display of sexuality. We are bombarded by these images everywhere. It soaks in, it becomes commonplace....it is damaging.

oldfart| 11.9.11 @ 8:08AM

One of the requirements to be liberal is to be a hypocrite. Where is the 'outrage' over this type of advertising, and shows like dancing with the starts (what stars?) that could previously only be found in magazines sold with heavy brown paper covers under the counter.

oldfart| 11.9.11 @ 8:09AM

As always - follow the money. Who is making money off of skin?

Seek| 11.9.11 @ 12:18PM

Whoever is making the money, they obviously don't need yours.

martin j smith| 11.9.11 @ 8:09AM

I think that in the Case of Cain these complaints are of a political nature period. The context, the source and the complainers and their lawyers and methods are well known ( or should be ). ,Th issue in this case is a clear attempt to knock out a potential threat to the Socialist Party USA. And their willing media friends are ever so glad to help.

It is also in this context that the people with courage and the people without show their true colors. By reading on this blog and others. By reading articles and watching TV news reports you get the idea from supposedly "our side" which is which.

FOX NEWS which i would have least put as Center Right has moved ever so incrementally to the LEFT. I no longer watch FOX NEWS> Not much better than CNN. But I look at their Headline Webb site.

I want an investigation of the complainers,their lawyers and the source of funding for their legal teams. I want an investigation of any political party ( Republican and Socialists ) who might also be involved. I want the facts not just some allegations. This story stinks of political putrid.

oldfart| 11.9.11 @ 8:30AM

I agree - it also has the appearance of being run by the Keystone Cops who actually were trying to be funny. This is just pick up some 'stuff' and throw it against the wall and see what sticks. That in and of itself is frankly becoming quite amusing at the outright amateurish nature of the ‘revelations’.

DTOM| 11.9.11 @ 9:36AM

Bret Baier appeared on a radio show in Chicago yesterday. His line on Herman Cain, "His campaign is over, unless he hits this outta the park."

Fox is just the wee-est little bit right of MSNBC. We should put a stop to their endless braying about their killing ratings. Turn Fox OFF, now!

Who wants to listen to what that dim bulb Karl Rove who "architected" us into the 2006 midterm election debacle, anyway?

DTOM| 11.9.11 @ 9:56AM

It was kind of funny when three hours later, the triangulating, moderate, ignoramus O'Riley had to open his show with 'we just don't know if this is the end of Herman Cain' - something the duplicitous Mr. O'Riley seems to be rooting for. "Duplicitous", Bill, look it up, you pandering jerk.

Ever notice how O'Riley always manages to have a lot of edgy stock footage to add to his salacious coverage of any story with any sexual angle? And how thoroughly he covers those sleazy stories?

I'm just saying...

PS. Mr. Cain is taking a pages out of the original research on withstanding bimbo alerts done by Bill Clinton, James Carville. Mr. Cain is being a little more respectful of his accusers than Clinton was, though. Oh and Clinton did actually commit at least one of the "crimes" he was alleged to have...

J. Knox| 11.9.11 @ 11:02AM

I wrote Bill O'Reilly off as a serious man (although I'd given his 1st? or 2nd? book a 74% thumbs up), I wrote him off when he used the following "live" on his newscast to illustrate the economic and job woes in the USA:

In this broadcast done two years ago his interviewee was a late 20's former Wall Street entry level financier but terminated from her firm with a couple hundred other employees. What was this well-educated? woman now doing? Stripping in clubs in Miami.

So Bill thought it germaine to have her on the Factor.

Yes, the lead-up Fox News ads featured some bikini clad woman jirating and slithering on a strip club pole with accompanying sleezy music.

Fox New's "Factor" needs a stripper to come on the show in person to portray the jobs situation?

No shame.

No brains.

Cheap thrills?

Cheap titilation?

Thus, no credibility, Bill O'Reilly.

scotchieguy| 11.9.11 @ 12:17PM

My favorite part of O'Reilly is when he says, "Congressman, I'll give you the last word!" Everytime he does this, he immediately interrupts his guest, then says, "Sorry, Congressman. That's all the time we have." Does he not have people to help him on this--or maybe jerks get the highest ratings.

loulou| 11.9.11 @ 10:46AM

"Turn Fox OFF, now!"

Done. Long time ago. Do I need to hear Krauthammer, Kristol (elite GOP), and lefties like Kristin Powers and Mara Liasson opining? No.
And does Karl Rove have to appear on every program? Greta incredibly had a TIME reporter and a ABC News hack on.

FoxNews is pushing Romney and conservatives are on to them.

Grzmlyk| 11.9.11 @ 11:09AM

It is VERY gratifying to me to see so many people here who are on to Fox News and its ever-leftward creep.

O'Reilly has always been a pandering, braying ass. But I endured a lot of the leftist-oriented pop-culture crap, a lot of RINOs like Rove and Dana Pirino, to name just two of many, because I still thought at least they presented more balance, and, to some extent, they still do.

Then I saw Brit Hume make a left turn, which really hurt. And now we have people like Krauthammer and Jonah Goldberg and Kristol who are simply cheerleaders for the Establishment status quo.

In five years, Fox will be indistinguishable from CNN.

And this is a center-right country? If that's the case, can someone explain the headlong rush leftward that we've made, almost uninterrupted, since JFK?

faxmatter| 11.10.11 @ 4:58PM

Remember also that they had to dump Glen Beck because he was discussing serious, historical leftwing conspiracies.

Marko| 11.9.11 @ 10:35AM

Fox News grew annoying to me long ago, when they started reporting titillating, provocative, perverse and sexually-oriented news stories. All kinds of news-worthy events are going on in the world, but what are the stories we see on the front page? "Man has sex with daughter's girlfriend". Meanwhile, China performs military exercises with Russia in the South China Sea. But apparently that's not "news", because it's buried somewhere.

J. Knox| 11.9.11 @ 11:33AM

Marko, you are correct. Fox News is not so different than Star News. (Isn't that the one at the dodgy grocery store check-outs?) Certainly the Nat. Enquirer.

Remember Sean Hannity obcessing nightly for two weeks (or was it three) during the Charlie Sheen 2 bimbos and cocaine binging while that TV show dismantled?

That is worthy of national news coverage?

How about the nightly tips of the hat to late-nite TV perverts Jay Leno, David Letterman, Steven Colbert, John Stewart and Conan O'Brien.

The crew of nightime perverts (present and past) are part of what tells me there is no hope. Adults my age who should already be asleep in preparation for REAL LIFE and real responsibilities the next day are getting their titilation fixes (LACED with crude sex in every 2d joke)

Gretta continues her love affair with Jimmy Fallon but does "Last Call" with Leno, Letterman, or Colbert -- nightly.

These are nothing more than shameless 20 second ads on behalf of these late-nite TV perverts.

I thought they were outraged at David Letterman when he used his show monologue to joke about the Yankees ballplayer who knocked up Sarah Palin's second youngest daughter.

Yeah, right. Outrage. No, they all still shill for Letterman and Bill O'Reilly raves about his TV appearances with Letterman.

His one-on-ones with Letterman on Letterman's TV show then become part of Bill O'Reilly's 8 p.m. EST "Factor." Say what? This is journalism? This is news? (ditto for when Bill goes on The View --- five/six? hags altogether)

All of this is evidence aplenty that Gretta, Sean, Bill, Fox News, and the massive team behind them have no brains, no moral values whatsoever.

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 1:30PM

Recall that the great Royko moved to the Trib from the Sun-Times because he didn't want to work for "the alien," as he called Rupert Murdoch.

Vic| 11.10.11 @ 9:42PM

Check out the similarities between Fox's website and Pravda's. Are the same folks running these two outfits? Commies to the left of me, fascist to the right. What we have now is the left, and the other not quite as left.

Claypoole| 11.9.11 @ 4:48PM

And Julie Bandaras is a ghoul.

John Navratil| 11.9.11 @ 8:32AM

Apparently, it's not sex if there's money involved... it's commerce. All we need is a regulation which says how much before it's no longer harassment.

Man to woman: Would you sleep with me for $1 million.
Woman: I suppose I would, yes.
Man: Well, how about $20.
Woman: What do you think I am?
Man: We've already established what you are. Now we are just dickering over the price.

Drunken Sailor| 11.9.11 @ 12:49PM

So if you paid a prostitute with a check that bounces are you guilty of Solicitation or Check Fraud?

mzk1| 11.11.11 @ 2:35AM

In today's atmosphere - rape.

Mike | 11.9.11 @ 8:35AM

In case you haven't noticed, Lisa, Fox is a major contributor to the phenomena you describe. And the faux news channel is simply dishonest.

Purple Lips| 11.9.11 @ 9:15AM

Au contraire, Mike. Fox News is a totally different entity from the Fox Network. The former was designed to explode Moonbats heads; the latter is simply a race to the bottom.

PCC| 11.9.11 @ 9:56AM

Mike makes a valid point. Fox is full of eye candy. Not that attractiveness should be a disqualifying factor, but you can't deny that whoever is doing the hiring at Fox has applied the "no skanks need apply" rule. Speak frankly, if it were my job, I'd do the same.

David W| 11.9.11 @ 8:45AM

there is an important part of the sexual harassment piece that is missing (as a manager many years ago I got to endure/enjoy sexual harassment training). I believe that the object of the harassment needs to make it clear that the behavior is unwelcome - either directly to the offender or to management (who then has to investigate it). Just because someone is uncomfortable with the stares or behavior of another doesn't make it "legal" harassment. Unless the harasser is told to stop by someone then it doesn't constitute legal harassment (it not "cool" but not illegal).

DTOM| 11.9.11 @ 9:38AM

We are also missing another item, FACTS. Really hard to defend against, 'we know you did something awful, didn't you! 'Fess up what was it?'

Abu Nudnik| 11.11.11 @ 11:58AM

Not to mention that the legal definition is the use of leverage to obtain sexual favors. An inferior cannot harass their superior by definition. (Legally, I mean, not socially. The term has been stretched beyond absurd limits)

jlrlee| 11.9.11 @ 9:00AM

Women who walk around with their boobs halfway hanging out are not accused of sexual misconduct. If a man purposely walked around with his fly unzipped, he would be immediately terminated from his job. Hypocrisy by women.

Frank Drackman| 11.9.11 @ 10:35AM

remember Morganna the "Kissing Bandit" from the 70's...
She'd show up at major sporting events and give the Superstar, say, OJ Simpson for example, a big wet kiss to celebrate his new rushing record...
No Bra, and those huge 70's style fake brest that looked like 2 Water Baloons gone terribly wrong...
and I actually remember looking at National Geographics for the T&A...

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 1:31PM

Perfect score, Frank. Yet again.

Butch| 11.9.11 @ 2:42PM

Sears catalog, too.

Claypoole| 11.9.11 @ 4:53PM

When I was in my teens, I looked at the National Geographics in the dentist's office with great expectations. Finally gave it up, though, when I realized that only women were photographed in frontal nudity. The men all wore loincloths. (FYI: I am a woman, thus the disappointment.)

daddio| 11.9.11 @ 10:57AM

I encounter this crap all the time. I work in a professional environment and these women, (some of them old enough to know better) come in with blouses open down to their navel! For Pete's sake, we are not at a cocktail party!!!

moron| 11.9.11 @ 9:10AM

Hey wait, didn't Cain's accuser sexually assault or harass him one month ago when she hugged him?

DTOM| 11.9.11 @ 9:44AM

I've thought about this question a lot. I heard the Chicago radio reporter tell of this. I have a theory:

If Miss Bialek was already planning this, what better way to ice the charge than to go to a campaign appearance, get in the line, throw a hug at the candidate, and whisper into his ear.

It's not like the Secret Service is there, yet, to body slam you to the floor. Most candidates would smile and try to quickly and gently disengage without breaking his smiling visage.

I also believe Miss Bialek was heard to complain that Mr. Cain was late to the appearance at that event. As in I am wasting time here, I have to do something and get outta here.

This is not hard to believe at all. It also shows significant pre-meditation on her part. Exactly when did she start talking to Miss Allred, anyway?

loulou| 11.9.11 @ 10:48AM

I felt violated when I saw the broad on FoxNews. She showed major cleavage and I was offended. Allred's fake eyelashes offend me as well.

Tina B| 11.9.11 @ 11:22AM

Tell it sistah!

Seriously.

Thanks, Lisa and loulou, for telling it like it is.

Teaghan| 11.9.11 @ 3:09PM

And the EXTREMELY short skirts that Gretchen Carlson wears in the AM that she is constantly pulling down to keep her business from being shown on nationwide TV, OFFENDS ME! Oh, and the gals on The Five who they strategically place at the END of the table so you get the full leg shot and the view of Kimberly's $400.00 shoes. The sexual pandering is awful, but I suppose it sells. My husband loves to watch :-)

It is show - it is not news| 11.9.11 @ 7:29PM

Yes, someone needs to tell Mrs. Gretchen Carlson that the short skirts ....well, that looks so immaturely 21ish (like she's in her first real work world job out of high school and hasn't a clue).

And, yeah, that new show at 5 p.m. where they always put the woman on the left end of the table so we get the legs.

Fox -- the Bimbo News Network.

Ladies, if you have a brain, then let it work. News is supposed to be intellectual time.

It would astounding for most of us if we could see a time management chart for the women & the men at Fox News.

Actual intense show prep with stats, interviewees, drafting key questions, research, item sequence etc. vs. makeup specialists, hair stylists, eye shadow, eye liner, lipstick, gloss, face cream (not to mention daily StairMaster and AerobaCycle sessions)

ArmyAviator| 11.9.11 @ 9:40AM

While I am aware that sexual harassment does occur, my question is: Did it occur in the case of Herman Cain? Where are the "investigative journalists" when it comes to the commonality of sexual harassment complaints filed against NUMEROUS CEOs and Corporate Presidents? This is so common and such a good source of money for the so-called "victims" that corp0rations now have INSURANCE for such inevitablities. No guilt or admission of guilt is admitted to, but the insurance companies and the corporate lawyers "settle" in lieu of litigation. What if Jeffrey Immelt, has a sexual harassment complaint pending? I wouldn't doubt it. But then, I wouldn't necessarily judge him guilty, either. It's simply too easy to make allegations. Proving them is another thing alltogether.

DTOM| 11.9.11 @ 9:47AM

Hey Army;

Remember when the one MSM reporter babe said she'd be happy if she could put Bill Clinton into the "Monica" mode because of 'all the good he's done?'

That's not sexual harrassment - it's unpaid prostitution!

Vern Crisler | 11.9.11 @ 9:44AM

I always thought it was a pattern of abuse or harrassment that was actionable, not one time incidents. Isn't that the Clinton standard?

DTOM| 11.9.11 @ 9:48AM

Depends on the meaning of "isn't."

Tina B| 11.9.11 @ 11:23AM

good one, DTOM.

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 1:34PM

One time events if significant enough. When I compliment women, I always note their actions or intelligence or kindnesses unless I know them REALLY well. Then I might say---"new hairdo? Looks nice." That's as FAR as I go.

Pelligrino| 11.9.11 @ 9:53AM

Thank you, Ms. Fabrizio. You are correct. We are carpet bombed with lude images, imagery, words, "entertainment," pop music, TV sitcoms, and even nearly skyscraper-sized city billboards advertising the nearest strip club.

What I have gotten used to doing in some grocery stores: I will approach the store manager (having already identified him or her) during a particularly unnecessary loudspeaker song (due to the beat, music, sex-laden lyrics, and volume) and ask, "How exactly is this customer friendly?" I cannot say that this always brings positive results, but I won't stop pointing out that it is iritating to try to choose just the right laundry detergent while having my brain assaulted with "Get your sexy on!."

Everyone always says the easy: "Well, if you don't like it, just turn it off." Oh? How exactly?

IT'S EVERYWHERE!

Examples:

At the gas station when pumping gas. It's pounding over the station's overhead speakers at 110 decibels.

Just prior to reading this article I was listening to the local radio news. I turned it off when, following the news, the station featured a commerical that focused on crude jokes about "plumbers' crack." This was a radio ad! Please! It's still just 9 a.m.!

I hear loud, pulsating racy music eminating from the local college's MASSIVE loudspeakers during football practices and in the MANY intermissions during their home baseball games.

Some years ago when I attened just a few of the St. Louis Cardinals baseball home games, every time that Albert Pujols would come to the plate to bat, the DeeJay (Baseball needs a full-time DJ?) would play "It's so hot in here, so take off all your clothes..." (If you've heard this song, well, do you see any link to sport or baseball or a man that wants to thank God in Spanglish for hitting home runs?)

The slut-walks on campus supported by some faculty and staff. Then photographed and placed in the campus and local newspapers.

Fox News exploited all it could out of the Miss California crown/Carrie Prejean story two years ago. How many times did they open that story with showing the blonde surgically enhanced thing prance in bikini for about 5-6 seconds before going to the "hard news" narrative?

To this day, I remain unconvinced that sports require a loud disco-like environment. But this is what you get. Try going to a major league sporting event and not losing your hearing for a few hours while needlessly enduring Shakira, Justin Timberlake, 50cent, Lady Gaga, "oldies" from Mandona....

We are mugged everyday by images and overt sexual inuendo.

I once had some lewd looks from women while sitting in a dentist office. We were sitting for a long time. I couldn't figure out why these women seated across from me were displaying such great disdain. I didn't figure it out until I set down the magazine I was viewing. It wasn't until setting it down that I saw the almost naked, sexually & sensually posed woman on the ad on the back cover. I guess they thought I was using my wait time to peruse a Playboy? For the record: It was Newsweek, but I was still very embarrased.

Why do avowed Christians like Bristol Palin and former bigtime QB star Curt Warner go on dancing with the stars? Everyone can see the woman's litle picture that proceeds opening this ASO article. How is she dressed? Simple answer: Like a whore. Didn't Bristol Palin look the same in her first dance outfit? (and the dance moves match this "aim") This is wholesome family, mainstream entertainment?

The present day Olympic level ice skating outfits that the young women wear feature the skin color clothing to make it appear as if they are almost ice dancing in the nude.

Just walk into large department stores with bigger than life floor-to-ceiling ads with half naked women or bare chested metrosexual men.

[For the record: I don't even like admiting that I think I know what this term 'metrosexual' means]

The Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue (calendar, vids, dorm room sized posters, downloadable screensavers, mousepad, etc.) and all things Victoria Secret are, well, so embraced in our society that, well, how do you try to raise a teen or young college kid correctly?

And just barely 18 year old? Justin Bieber is off to get his paternity test....

Tina B| 11.9.11 @ 11:39AM

God bless you, Pellegrino, I am so there with you.

I am grandmother, Nana, and the only mom my grandson Jake (12) has, and I thank God for him, as well as his sister (14) and their dad (40) in my everyday life, every day. But I have to keep my eyes wide open to the assault on their sensibilities every minute of those days, even at the middle school I just retired from.

It is a sexual assault, and it is empowered in our culture. Your world view, and mine, are not worth defending to the status quo, they are not feeling assaulted, after all. You and I (and many here at TAS) are the crazy, paranoid, prudish, party poopers.

I like to remind myself, what is the object of the game? To get to heaven along with my entire family, my loved ones and any other living soul I meet along the way. I live for this daily and ask the Lord protect my fam when I can't be there to do it.

We cannot protect their little eyes all the time. I pray that their little eyes are protected by Him when I can't. I include their little ears in this prayer, and their minds, as well as my own.

I only left that world view half a lifetime ago, so I try to make up for lost time. I have found myself speaking to the manager at my local market, regarding the sexual magazine covers placed at eye level to a 10 year old. I use my nicest manners and then listen as he/she tells me we do what "corporate" says and put all mags out to be viewed. Yawn.

I will write a letter, I told him. You do that, he said.

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 1:39PM

Actually, Justin was under 18 at the time of the "incident." So, if he's the daddy, the mommy gets to go to prison.

RCV| 11.9.11 @ 4:00PM

Only a misdemeanor, since she was 19 at the time and not more than 3 years older.

Christopher Manion| 11.9.11 @ 9:59AM

Thanks for this excellent piece, Lisa Fabrizio. Well done.

Tina B| 11.9.11 @ 11:41AM

Yes, Lisa, bravo.

smithk| 11.9.11 @ 10:10AM

The tyranny of a totalitarian government, big institutions, big banks, media gossip, over regulation, over legislation, over taxation, blaming others, waiting for handouts, laziness, and widespread illiteracy are effectively scripting the demise of America.

Gossip side shows, career politicians, equivocating lawyers, charlatans projecting correctness under titles and positions of all sorts have left America in a state of unresolvable confusion.

A return to simple essentials - zero direct taxes, minimum regulation, minimum legislation, maximum educations, minimum government, maximum De-centralization, a revival of the human spirit and goodwill is the only prescription to restore America.

Hire Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich.

Pelligrino| 11.9.11 @ 10:11AM

A youth pastor friend of mine said already over a decade ago, "Show me the woman today, the American young woman, who blushes.

There aren't any anymore.

No one knows what this means."

Moe Blotz| 11.9.11 @ 10:44AM

In college I learned the definition of a blush when I pledged to join Zeta Omega Epsilon. A blush is temporary arrythmia and calorific effulgence of the physiogomy, etigilised by the precipitation of the sensorum, caused by sudden shame, anger, fear or other emotion, resulting in a partial parasis of the vasamatorial muscular filaments of the face and emanating in an intermediated praecordia.

Drunken Sailor| 11.9.11 @ 12:54PM

Many of America's women today only know Blush can be found in the makeup aisle.

Michelle| 11.9.11 @ 10:26AM

Well said Lisa. Always agree and enjoy your articles.

Col Bat Guano| 11.9.11 @ 10:26AM

I fell for the hype and tuned into the season premiere of "Two n' Half Men" sans Charlie Sheen. This show had become nothing more than Sheen acting as primitive as he could. His characters ashes winding up in a DustBuster was a fitting end and actually funny. There the humor stopped. The addition of Ashton Kutcher has simply overturned another rock for this show. At the site of him parading around nude on set (judging from the studio audience reaction), off went the TV. Same ole, same ole. Hollywood thinks very little of us and we give them no reason to think otherwise.

Lee| 11.9.11 @ 10:35AM

Agreed!

Pelligrino| 11.9.11 @ 10:45AM

Ms. Fabrizio, you get the honors for the best article of the day. What you are talking about is vital to any slim hope we have of remaining a viable society.

All I'd have to do is say, "Hey men! Yes, all of you over there, come right here! In 20 minutes we'll be filming -- right here! -- the next Danica Patrick "Go Daddy!" blockbuster TV and web ad. You, yes you! can be the backdrop and live audience, afterwards autographs and photos with Danica!"

How many 40 and 50 something males would drop what they're doing and saunter on over?

Reference America's premier annual national event:

How many men (some women too?) are far more interested in the sexually racy adverts done during the NFL Super Bowl telecast? Is it the gridiron football? The cheerleaders? The cute, bouncy blondes in the beer ads? Or Danica Patrick and Megan Fox? What really is the "draw?"

Isn't this why Jesus, when looking down on Jerusalem (viewing the people there), just one week before His crucifiction, isn't this why Jesus wept?

And we grieve Him still.

"And when He was come near, He beheld the city, and wept over it...." Luke 19:41 - 44

Tina B| 11.9.11 @ 11:44AM

amen.

Eric| 11.9.11 @ 10:48AM

I find it ironic that as i am reading this story, an ad for Victoria Secret popped up along the right rail of the web site.

Bob Grant| 11.9.11 @ 11:08AM

As one who infrequently substitutes for teachers at a high school , I can tell you the interaction between male and female students has changed considerably since I attended school and is responsible for much of the confusion as to what is "proper" and "improper".

The open affection between male and female students is alarming to say the least. It's not so much the boyfriend/girlfriend variety that occurs discretely between classes but the seemingly " innocuous" hugging, kissing, and other physical contact among friends; male/male; female/female/ male/female.

The teachers and administrators (many of whom are barely in their 30's) turn a blind eye as if it's a battle not worth waging, or worse, don't perceive it as being a problem.

Allowing this to occur is exactly the wrong message we should send to young adults who are preparing to enter the workforce in a few years as this behavior runs counter to much of the workplace legislation currently in place which is VERY subjective.

Is all of this societal confusion a result of abject incompetence or something more nefarious?

DatsunMark| 11.9.11 @ 11:14AM

Remember....you get 1 free grope if you happen to be a Liberal President...all because you are good on women's issues. (You can thank Gloria Steimem for that when she defended Clinton.)

Big Tony| 11.9.11 @ 11:27AM

" but in America, at least for the time being, a man is innocent until proven guilty"

that isn't the case and hasn't been for quite a while now.

Those are only pretty words with a meaning that George Owell would surely appreciate.

Appleby| 11.9.11 @ 11:43AM

I never had to make any accusations of sexual harassment or any other kind; as I pointed out, Mama taught me how to handle such situations and they never went any farther than that first remark. If your Mama is not a lady, your experience may be different.

I have also had occasion to point out to a mouthy lawyer that slandering Americans was against the company code of ethics, as American was in fact a nationality. Since the Speech Code was designed to protect FOREIGNERS (that is what Canad calls "visible minorities") even a lawyer couldn't pick that up. However, it did stop most of the anti-American palaver in that part of the office anyway.

"Lookin' for one good man"| 11.9.11 @ 11:49AM

Very sad that American Spectator just jumps right in and adds to the sleeze -- unabashedly.

On Hugh Hefner's recent 90th birthday? (something like this) American Spectator Online did an article on the Playboy Perv with full sized, full color ad of him surrounded by four half naked blondes easily 60 years younger than "Hef."

Lisa, good luck trying to change even American Spectator editors. (see, they love porn, too -- oh, they do -- particularly since it is now abundant on YouTube and doesn't leave nasty traces on their home PC's)

Can't even get this article posted today without the lead mini photo showing a very suggestive Dancing With The Stars skantily clad female spreading her legs.

Yep. Need that photo to intro the story.

It increases readership, right? So it is all just part of doin' bidness.

"Lookin' for One Good Man" by Johnny Cash. Johnny, ain't none to be found.

Oldefarte| 11.9.11 @ 11:51AM

Lisa's excellent thoughts concerning this subject pretty much says it all. The Cain situation should be combined with the Penn State one and Hollywood's 24-7 pandering of sexual oriented products of stimulation [especially of viewing children]. This nation has simply gotten away from it religious established principles. Few attend church services anymore, and the government's agenda prohibits religious observances in the public arena. This liberalistic Democrat agenda has got to stop, and we can effectively begin the process in November of next year. Almighty willing, we will do so!!!!!!!

Joe D| 11.9.11 @ 11:54AM

Very Good Lisa. It is good to here a woman speak the truth about all this. Since it was a woman Anita Hill who cause most of this over kill. Some of it is needed and helpful. But most is not and is very harmful to children and adults.

Jack London| 11.9.11 @ 12:03PM

'How can we set standards governing sexual behavior in the workplace when the same or worse goes on continuously all around us?'

Well I would just give up then and let harassment run rife in the workplace.

Another useless article. A waste of electrons.

Truth to Power| 11.9.11 @ 12:25PM

Jack would prefer to just ignore sexual harassment only when it affects Democrats. Nice try Jack. We know you really don't care and are just an ends justifies the means type of guy. Move on Jack.

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 1:38PM

Sorry, Jack. This stuff has been lawyerized to the point of imbecility.

Jack London| 11.9.11 @ 3:22PM

You make no sense. Read what she wrote.

Truth to Power| 11.9.11 @ 4:41PM

You are a left wing stooge who just does pretend morality. Move on, Jack.

Jack London| 11.9.11 @ 5:10PM

She wrote:

'How can we set standards governing sexual behavior in the workplace when the same or worse goes on continuously all around us?'

This isn't really about left or right. So you think she's right or wrong?

Truth to Power| 11.9.11 @ 7:13PM

You're a left wing stooge Jack. I find your quibbling amusing but not sincere. I get you now move on.

Seek| 11.9.11 @ 12:23PM

Mayday! Mayday! We're being bombarded with gratuitous images of sex!! Leave it to Lisa Fabrizio to peddle her usual mix of chic alarmism and authoritarianism to create the image of an American culture mired in "sewage." My apologies if I don't view "Dancing with the Stars" as a threat to me or my family. Lisa should go back to her convent.

Oldefarte| 11.9.11 @ 4:12PM

No fool, DWS is a threat to everyone as it and other Hollywood produced GARBAGE/FILTH is a designed destruction of our historical Judeo-Christian ethics/morality. Hopefully Chaz will request permission to marry your daughter/niece/sister and your family can thereafter live happily ever after. GD, what an idiot!!!!!!!!!!

Seek| 11.10.11 @ 7:11PM

Your "point" merely proves my post: Moral panic-peddling, armed with a pretentious slab of religious piety, is the first refuge of the intellectually bankrupt. I see a new movie, sometimes two, every week. I'm none worse for the wear.

Frankly, I find you to be a highly distasteful, unappealing old fart.

Vic| 11.10.11 @ 10:07PM

Perhaps you should accuse him of harassment!

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 1:37PM

I watch MST3K and SpongeBob Squarepants with my kids. But this 3 day weekend I will be doing Continuing Medical Education article reviews and reading about the Byzantines.

TV is mostly crap.

Oldefarte| 11.9.11 @ 4:13PM

Except for the news shows, it is TOTALLY SO!!!!

Slacker| 11.9.11 @ 1:44PM

The curious thing at my workplace is sexual harassment claims always involve middle age and older workers -The demographic Cain would have been it at the time he is accused of harassment. The younger workers seem to understand where the line is, so well in fact they can cross the line with impunity.

Some old dude gets in trouble for the dumbest of things. Meanwhile gen X coworkers are hooking up without consequences and the cougars are on the prowl. The older men are totally confused.

Oldefarte| 11.9.11 @ 4:16PM

Yeah right, what's needed is for the Wall Street Protesters to conquer the world, right? Except for the younger generation inside the military, the 18-18 youngsters are destroying this country/world!!!!

Slacker| 11.9.11 @ 7:37PM

Not sure I follow you.

All I can say is older men don’t know how to identify or handle sluts and it causes some problems. I suspect the social disconnect is somehow related to changes brought about by the sexual revolution but, that all happened before my time and I don’t much care anyway.

Men over 50 (and a few traditionally raised younger fellows) don’t accept some things about sluts.

First, they have difficulty discerning sexually liberated women from more traditional women. This causes all sorts of troubles as these two types of women DO NOT LIKE TO BE CONFUSED WITH ONE ANOTHER.

Second, they don’t understand sexually liberated women love acting like sluts but, only sometimes and under certain conditions. The woman needs to control the slut switch. Old guys figure (correctly) that a slut is always and forever a slut. This is one of those circumstances were being right still means being wrong (in her mind). Touch her slut switch and you are in big trouble. Old dudes need to learn the art of passive philandering.

Never proposition a slut acquaintance because it doesn’t square with her sexual liberation ideals. Now you’re in trouble. This gets confusing because a rare breed of slut does likes to be treated like a slut. These sluts are head cases and best avoided.

The thing about sexual harassment cases is the accuser is almost always a slut and everybody can sense it. Respectable women laugh off sexual innuendo and inappropriate behavior. It doesn’t affect them much because they aren’t vulnerable.

The slut however will become very frustrated when she senses she has lost control of her slut force. This is what I suspect happened to Cain. He didn’t so much do anything wrong, as not know what he was doing.

Mark| 11.9.11 @ 1:48PM

Hooray! This is my 1st time on this site. This is the 1st thing I've read. What a fresh breath of sanity. Hooray for you!!!!
Thank you for putting in words what I've felt for so long.

Simon Templar| 11.9.11 @ 7:26PM

Welcome, Mark! Post again and do come back and join the discussion.

Clinton| 11.9.11 @ 2:02PM

The best answer to Muslim fundamentalist is a bullet in the frontal lobe of Muslim fundamentalists.

cjmartel| 11.9.11 @ 5:44PM

Here! Here! The only problem I can see is that there are going to be way too many volunteers to do the shooting!!!!

Tiddly| 11.9.11 @ 2:04PM

My father met my mother on the phone when they both worked for a furniture store in the 1940s, she in sales and him in the warehouse. Their humorous banter on the company phone between the departments would today probably get either one of them (but more likely my dad) hauled up on sexual harassment charges if a modern woman had overheard him (but my mother loved it, and there was nothing lewd about it).

The eventual result was their dating followed by 60 years of marriage, and, oh yes, me. So, if sexual harassment training had been forced on those furniture store employees, like it is by most corporations today, my father (a very decent churchgoing man) would never have dared to kid around about his attraction to my mother during working hours, and propose dating her on the company phone, and I probably would never have been born.

Normal, harmless expressions of attraction between men and women at work are now forbidden under threat of fines and imprisonment. Just another result of our decline as a society.

Jack London| 11.9.11 @ 4:23PM

So he shoved his hand up her skirt and booked a king sized bed, eh? Totally harmless.

Mike Hawk| 11.9.11 @ 4:41PM

You know this for a fact do you?? BTW, are you still flashing grade school kids when school lets out?? I heard you and another guy were seen in the act.

Jack London| 11.9.11 @ 5:11PM

What's that got to do what Cain is alleged to have done? Do you understand what the debate is about?

The Inquisitor| 11.9.11 @ 7:24PM

Did Jack really flash young kids? Wow. I guess that is what we should debate next. When will Jack quit doing that? Has Jack apologized yet? Does Jack feel bad about what he did? Can Jack prove to our satisfaction that he didn't do it? It is not right to treat children that way, Jack. Are you now or have you ever been a coach at Penn State? Lots of questions to answer here. The Jack and the other guy thing is very believable as well. Did Jack have an unusual relationship with his mommy and daddy? Why should Jack do these kinds of things in public? This is fun Jackster. We have to get to the bottom of this. Woe. Don't get excited there. You know Jack, just between me and you this doesn't seem fair. Only a political hack would approach things like this. Come on confess. You are a political hack aren't you?

BEWILDERED| 11.9.11 @ 2:51PM

The males have been harassed, discriminated against and ridiculed in this country for decades. Everything from having to sign up for the draft, when the law exempts women. But we see how great women are for the military. (not). The men are ridiculed on television 24/7/365. Watch the commercials, the husband, father or boy friend has to be shown how to do everything, from tie his shoes to buy the right widget. Even Social Security discriminates against males, women outlive men by a average of 7 years. Why should women draw benefits for 7 years longer, both having worked till 65 years of age, and having paid into SS approx. the same amt. of money? On the other hand life insurance is a large percentage lower for women than men. Surely both of these, SS or life insurance can't be right.
Women are being taught to dress provocatively from very ages, some 3-4 year olds in beauty padgents. Women aren't dressing for themselves but for men. They are trolling, liken to trolling for bass. Men are visual hunters, they are the one being hunted, laid acrocc the back trunk of a vehicle and driven around town by a woman proudly displaying her trophy. Cains accusers? If he did what they claimed...they asked for it.

Niniane| 11.9.11 @ 4:59PM

This whole thing is getting beyond ridiculous. So no one can tell a coworker the dress is very flattering to them or the new tailored suit looks great. No one should compliment a coworker if they look great after losing weight.
In my 20s I learned early that there will be some who make suggestive remarks, but usually back off when I tell them the remark fell flat, and they can come back and try again if they think of something more original. In those days there was nothing like sexual harassment, and I viewed it as nothing more than innocent banter between the sexes.
These sexual harassment charges are really nothing more than the complainant wanting to feel better about themselves by smashing someone else. And of the two named women, Bialek was so offended that she did not get out of the car and hail a cab or grab the Metro back to her hotel. (This is downtown D.C., not Siberia.) She is so upset she does not file a complaint nor tell those closest to her any details for 14 years.
With Kraushaar, it has come to light that she also filed another harassment complaint against someone at her next job. She must be so incredibly delicious and sexy she really should not leave the house.
Let's see how quickly the books come out about how they were deflowered by Cain.

Anthony| 11.9.11 @ 5:22PM

I agree with all of you above who have discerned a leftish tilt to FOX News. It is indeed depressing and totally uncalled for from a business model. FOX was kicking ass big time.
So David Gregory of NBC fame has just said the R party does not have a "Grand Wizzard" to put an end to Mr. Cain's career.
Ya just gotta love these lefties, maybe the Rs can dig up ole Byrd of West VA to play the role. Or maybe David Gregory will act as plantation manager for the R party and put Mr. Cain in his place, oh wait, he's doing that for the D party, sorry.
I hope Herman Cain kicks all their asses!!!

marshcope| 11.9.11 @ 5:55PM

We have yet to hear from anyone in Kansas City who was harassed by Herman when he ran the
FRB there. And I once read a newspiece about a Professor of Hebrew at the U of Chicago who in class one day told a joke from the Talmud about a guy who fell off a roof onto a girl walking past the edifice. A couple of female persons in the class were so offended by this very old joke that they forced the tenured Prof to be monitored every day in class by a U honcho who sat there making sure he no more told any more Talmudic offensive stories.

Konnie| 11.9.11 @ 9:12PM

Lisa, I loved your writing, you say what we think but cannot verbalize. You go, girl.

Legacy America | 11.9.11 @ 9:47PM

Very well put. The MSM doesn't have a double standard. They have no standards at all - pervert, distort, corrupt at all costs.

pilgrim| 11.9.11 @ 9:50PM

Needs serious proofreading....."bomards"?...."inuendo"?
spelling harrasment, sure enough.

POST American| 11.9.11 @ 11:04PM

"Understand folks, even long, long
before our now full-spectrum police state
surveillance ----blackmail and extortion
were rampant in the American political
scene. Consider, virtually everyone in
the political spotlight in 2012 ---has been
'calm--PRO---mized'."

--------------------WHO SAID THAT?

Kenn Paul| 11.9.11 @ 11:09PM

You can thank the tort bar for this. The workplace is the only place where the money is that can be extorted for frequently imagined bad behavior.

rendite| 11.10.11 @ 12:09PM

Ms. Fabrizio, hopefully you'll still see this. Sadly, as you probably know all too well, once an article is posted to the web, it is viewed for about 20 hours and then lost in the tidal waves of new material.

One of your key points: The incongruence of firm, rigid, tangibly punishable offenses within the workplace -- some of the highest, most official workplaces in the land -- yet the wanton disregard for any semblance of propreity once one leaves the work world behind at 5 p.m. In fact full societal sanction of everything that is taboo in that regulated workplace.

Very true. Dead on.

Please consider a future article on how this plays out within our military. Yes, if you don't have some very senior hand protecting you, we'll fry a young troop and leave him hanging over what is alleged as a sexual impropriety. Alleged. Maybe worth a wrist slap, maybe worth extra duty. Maybe worth taking some pay.

Maybe.

A good defense lawyer (doesn't exist either within the military, nor can the average junior military member first ID a good lawyer to hire or afford one) would shred the military world's double standards within minutes.

I'm talking about "offenders" aged just 20, 23 or 25 year old guy.

(No, I am not talking about defending rape or even attempted rape)

The double standards in the government/military world are ever-present and immediately known to any in just the first year of service.

Right in official US taxpayer funded military media.

Yet the intensely sexually laced (rape 'em if you got 'em) lyrics are right their on Armed Forces Radio, Armed Forces TV programming, the Stars & Stripes articles, and in MANY of the USO celebrities brought over to meet and entertain the troops. Robin Williams portrayal of a rogue Vietnam era radio DJ is almost laughable today. Goodness, we egg the boys on when we have the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders romp and bounce in their hotpants in places like Iraq and Afghanistan. In just two weeks, the "boys" will be treated to these sex kittens during Thanksgiving shows and appearances. I've always wondered how bringing over the cheerleaders and Brittney and Christina Aguilera and having them do their racy songs with the lights, smoke, and the beat -- how is this supporting the very fragile military families, those 24 and pregnant with third child women back in Fort USA military housing or waiting patiently in Topeka or Toledo? How?

Isn't the USO really hot after Rhinna or Beyonce because they now give seductive lapdances up there on stage to some lucky guys in the audience mid song?

How do you expect a male who has been 9 months overseas to then...then conduct himself?

Like a cherub or choir boy?

View the "archived" MTV music video of Cher on the USS Iowa. It's real! This was US Navy supported to the hilt. When Cher is up there riding the "big gun"...uh, what's a testosterone male to think? His admiral -- dressed in whites -- is only about 30 yards away, smiling, nodding approval, and tapping away to the beat.

Yet we fry 'em with UCMJ. Nail 'em at captain's mast.

Truth: I have silently wept when seeing a wife weep. She is weeping, openly weeping, because she's attending one of these milltary entertainment events and viewing her husband, having pushed his way forward with vidcam so he is front stage, and the "ladies" up there shake it, boogie, practically strip, all to a pulsating sexual beat. He's almost got his camera lens into the nearby dancer's private parts. Oh yeah, it is all official military sanctioned. This isn't some sleezy bar off base; it is right in the main gym on base. The community commander is standing right beside me. The assistant base chaplain? He's sneaking peaks from the side door. The whole place is shakin'. There are even kids about.

Highly recommend: This would be a good article, Ms. Fabrizio.

You could get lots to back up your article's (above) thrust -- right within the confines of US miliary life.

Note: This is NOT support of disgraceful Captain Owen Honors and USS E. story. Owens is one of the perverts who creates and codifies this incredibly incongruent and self-descructive military scene/labyrnth of double standards.

wodiej| 11.10.11 @ 5:38PM

"There's a place in hell for women who don't support other women." Madeline Albright

Shame on you. No one gets accused several times of sexual harassment all by different women if they are innocent. You people are hypocrites. You sure aren't conservatives.

Margie| 11.11.11 @ 11:03AM

Huh? Are you being sarcastic? I sure hope so. Because by that standard, Jesus Himself must have been guilty because SO many wanted Him crucified.
Think about it, man.

Margie| 11.11.11 @ 11:03AM

Huh? Are you being sarcastic? I sure hope so. Because by that standard, Jesus Himself must have been guilty because SO many wanted Him crucified.
Think about it, man.

Vic| 11.10.11 @ 10:29PM

They do if the $ are right. And why wait until the guy is in the lead? Why not when he first entered the race? This reeks with the stench of a smear job to ANY thinking person, conservative or otherwise!

Abu Nudnik| 11.11.11 @ 11:55AM

Sexual harassment is the use of political leverage to obtain sexual favors at work. Any broader definition is absurd. If the person accused of harassment has no power over the complainant, there can be no such thing as sexual harassment in the legal sense, only in the social sense.

The author has gone in the wrong direction. A narrowing of the definition is needed, not a broadening.

Anyone can say anyone did such-and-such to so-and-so. It's one's word against another and unjust to find anyone guilty without real proof.

Unwanted everything under the sun takes place on the sidewalks and the buses. We can't have the whole world in court for words, gestures and looks. Ever heard of "Get lost?"

POST American| 11.13.11 @ 11:27PM

--------------------FINAL WORD-----------------------

Sexual harassment, and just plain sex
harassment, is at work on many, many levels
in our Tavistock engineered 'cult--your'.

Just anothe reason to hurl your mind
control TVs once and for all.

-------------------------------------WE HAVE.

wedding dresses | 11.14.11 @ 3:16AM

Truth: I have silently wept when seeing a wife weep. She is weeping, openly weeping, because she's attending one of these milltary entertainment events and viewing her husband, having pushed his way forward with vidcam so he is front stage, and the "ladies" up there shake it, boogie, practically strip, all to a pulsating sexual beat. He's almost got his camera lens into the nearby dancer's private parts. Oh yeah, it is all official military sanctioned. This isn't some sleezy bar off base; it is right in the main gym on base. The community commander is standing right beside me. The assistant base chaplain? He's sneaking peaks from the side door. The whole place is shakin'. There are even kids about.

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