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No Harassment Here

By Jeffrey Lord on 11.8.11 @ 6:10AM

Racial double standard on display as media forgets Paula Jones case was dismissed.

In sum, the court finds that a showing of a tangible job detriment or adverse employment action is an essential element of plaintiff’s Section 1983 quid pro quo sexual harassment claim and that plaintiff has not demonstrated any tangible job detriment or adverse employment action for her refusal to submit to the governor’s alleged advances. The president is therefore entitled to summary judgment on plaintiff’s claim of quid pro quo sexual harassment.

For the foregoing reasons, the court finds that the president’s and Ferguson’s motions for summary judgment should both be and hereby are granted. There being no remaining issues, the Court will enter judgment dismissing this case.

It is so ordered this 1st day of April 1998.
— Susan Webber Wright, United States District Judge

Not so fast.

What Sharon Bialek described yesterday — an incident from 14 years ago in which she claims Herman Cain put his hand up her skirt and stopped when she requested him to stop — is not sexual harassment.

And no less than the federal judge in the case of Paula Jones and Bill Clinton — that would be one Susan Webber Wright — has quite specifically outlined what is not sexual harassment.

And of all people, Gloria Allred should know. Ms. Allred had Clinton target Paula Jones as a client all the way back then. Something she seems to have forgotten as it emerges she gave $1,000 to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. The same Hillary Clinton who, according to Kathleen Willey in her book Target: Caught in the Crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton, hired a private investigator to, in Willey’s words, conduct a “terror” campaign against Clinton’s female accusers. It certainly appears curious that Ms. Allred, a longtime liberal, would bring forth Sharon Bialek on a fourteen-year old charge that isn’t even close to the dismissed Clinton sexual harassment charge — while giving money to the woman who had other women investigated.

While Clinton agreed to pay Paula Jones an $850,000 settlement, in fact he was granted “summary judgment” by Judge Webber Wright — and the case of sexual harassment was dismissed.

Let’s remember what Clinton was accused of. It’s graphic, hide the kids.

As stated in the Webber Wright decision, the then-Governor of Arkansas, in a hotel room with the door closed, “lowered his trousers and underwear, exposed his penis (which was erect) and told (her) to ‘kiss it.’”

And after the media had insisted women tell the truth (in the Clarence Thomas affair, in which the latter never touched Anita Hill at all) and that sexual harassment was the be-all and end-all — suddenly they took to ignoring Paula Jones. Her case only got serious public attention when the Drudge Report surfaced Monica Lewinsky, which in turn, in an irony of ironies, opened the door for prosecutors to start formally dredging through Bill Clinton’s sexual misadventures.

So what do we have here with Ms. Bialek, if what she is saying is true?

At most — at most — a married man makes a move on a woman not his employee. She rejects the advance, he stops, that’s it.

Again, Judge Webber Wright on the actions of Governor Bill Clinton with Arkansas state employee Paula Jones: The Governor “lowered his trousers and underwear…” Said Judge Webber Wright of this behavior:

Reduced to its essence, the record taken as a whole could not lead a rational trier of fact to find for the nonmoving party [Paula Jones] and the court therefore finds that there are no genuine issues for trial in this case…. For the foregoing reasons, the court finds that the president’s and [Arkansas State Trooper Danny] Ferguson’s motions for summary judgment should both be and hereby are granted. There being no remaining issues, the Court will enter judgment dismissing this case.

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About the Author

Jeffrey Lord is a former Reagan White House political director and author. He writes from Pennsylvania at jlpa1@aol.com.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (307) | Leave a comment Leave a comment

Mike Hawk| 11.8.11 @ 6:29AM

Gloria All-red is a bottom feeding, ambulance chasing, scandal monger and a one womyn hit squad. This case smacks of a variation on the Kathleen Willey case which had credibility and again Slick Willy got a pass. There is a pattern here of an Oborg hit on Herman Cain. The MSM andtoo many gullible politicos arer willing to buy in. It's shameful. Remember how All-red went after Meg Whitman?? Jerry Brown was grateful, I'm sure.

Cosmo| 11.8.11 @ 6:34AM

Cain is a black Republican. That is unforgivable.

Jack in Wi| 11.8.11 @ 9:58AM

Oh! Nobody went after Eliot Spitzer, Jim Mc Greevey, Gary Hart, John Edwards Anthony Weiner because they were they were Democrats. In fact Spitzer and Weiner called their accusers anti Semites because they were Jews [ sarcasm ]. Well of course Spitzer and Weiner did the right thing and resigned. They were rightfully ashamed of themselves and then tried to rebuild their families. Herman should do the same thing. The conservatives here who keep this nonsense going are giving Obama another ticket back to the White House.

Mike Hawk| 11.8.11 @ 10:57AM

There was hard evidence on your buddies, especially Weiner and his wiener. So far there is none on Cain's accuser's and except for one, no names.

vtwin| 11.8.11 @ 12:04PM

“The National Restaurant Association confirmed Friday [11/4/2011] there had been a settlement between the association and a female staffer who had accused now U.S. presidential candidate Herman Cain and then former chairman of the NRA of sexual harassment in 1999.”

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.8.11 @ 1:50PM

Axelrod and Bialek should know each other well. Axelrod has been suing her for 2-3 years now. Looks like there's more to it than just "We saw each other in the gym."

https://w3.courtlink.lexisnexis.com/cookcounty/Finddock.asp?DocketKey=CAAJ0MB0BFIICG0MD

vtwin| 11.8.11 @ 2:34PM

Illinois Lending, represented by David J. Axelrod (not to be confused with David M. Axelrod political consultant for Obama,) is or has sued Sharon Bialek. So what is your point?

Gloria Allred, media hound, is representing Sharon Bialek, not to take legal action against Cain, the statute of limitations would have long past. To sell her story, a story we already know?

Nick| 11.8.11 @ 2:54PM

Sorry, but, bleeding heart liberals can't comment on this subject, vtwit.
Because you guys defended the perverted rapist, Bubba Clinton, for over eight years.

Nobody cares what you moral degenerates have to say.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.8.11 @ 3:33PM

My mistake, picked it up on a blog. Didn't research.

Either way, Bialek lived in the same building as Obama's Axelrod. and its still worth researching if there is any connection between these two David Axelrod's. Considering they are from the same area. Maybe David M. is David J.'s son? worth investigating.

TrueBlue| 11.9.11 @ 2:25PM

Large companies settle with accusers that majority of the time. It costs them less cashwise in most cases, let alone the bad publicity even when the accusation is proven baseless. When news agencies even bother to report on the results of a baseless accusation it's backpage news or a 10 second blurb in the MSM.

If ANY of these accusations were true then Herman Cain would have been taken to court over it, the two women who got settlements would have gotten much more than the $35-50k they received (the above example of Clinton paying $850k being a close number).

If Bialek was telling the truth (which I doubt since she was seen getting a picture with Cain just a few weeks ago, which you just don't do with someone who did what she says) she would have easily been able to accuse him of sexual molestation, not just harrassment, but it didn't happen. With as sue happy as people are in this country to make easy money, you think they would have passed up the ability to make a ton of cash off the incidents in question?

Sadly what we have here is a woman who sees the chance to get easy money, so she's going for it, to hell with someone else's reputation. Famous people and large companies get accused of things like this ALL THE TIME, and most settle for piddly sums because it costs the company/person less than to take it to court, not because of any actual fault.

Lawyers are part of the reason that services cost so dang much, when you have companies, hospitals and doctors having to keep high-priced lawyers on retainer to cover them when someone decides to sue just to make a quick buck, those costs get passed on to the consumer.

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 10:09PM

vtwin, sir---the case was settled for an amount that indicates nuisance suit.

Todd Powers| 11.9.11 @ 12:07AM

Agreed. I'm not certain Cain knows what he's supposed to be denying.

vtwin| 11.8.11 @ 10:02AM

Republican advice to the jobless; America's Corporate Officers, are our new Lords, go-ahead suck it. “You want a job, right?”

Truth to Power| 11.8.11 @ 10:27AM

You are thinking Clinton. Stop living in the past. Your party is over and now you're getting desperate.

Anthony| 11.8.11 @ 11:00AM

Besides vtwin, Clinton had very little to offer women, which is why he restorted to the use of cigars.
Hey, vitwin, better put some ice on that!!
We're coming after the left, and we're coming hard, get ready biker boy.

vtwin| 11.8.11 @ 11:03AM

So, “Clinton had very little to offer women,” do tell.

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 11:09AM

"We're coming after the left, and we're coming hard, get ready biker boy."

Yes, and the end result will be another 4/8 years wasted- plus another 40% Discounted memoir.

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 11:11AM

or possibly 4-8 years down the drain, a 40% discounted memoir, plus an airport named after the guy.

Anthony| 11.8.11 @ 11:20AM

Huh???? What the hell are you talking about Brooksie?

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 11:25AM

"What the hell are you talking about Brooksie?"

This is a piece referring to a GOP presidential candidate. You said you were coming after the Left, though it hasn't really worked since 1986.
(BTW, I voted GOP in '86-- but never again!)

Anthony| 11.8.11 @ 11:15AM

Naw, I'll leave the dirty saga of America's first white trash president to Clinton suck ups such as yourself.
I bet you have astroturf on your tricycle seat.

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 11:26AM

"America's first white trash president"

Harding and his nookie?

Truth to Power| 11.8.11 @ 12:33PM

I love desperation in my enemies. Gay desperation is a little more pathetic but lots of fun. It is over boys. Your guy is done. You're hypocrites, we get it. At least we can agree Republicans should be held to high standards. Maybe Obama can get somebody to write another memoir for him.

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 2:27PM

"I love desperation in my enemies."

Because you are not a Christian- it is a front.

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 3:41PM

Clint is a good guy, he has differences but isn't motivated by hate.

Jack in Wi. is another ball game; so one is prepared to believe Jack is not a hater.

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 10:10PM

"Clint isn't motivated by hate." WTF????

Truth to Power| 11.8.11 @ 3:57PM

Thanks for your criticism. I will in the future only take pleasure in your desperation when it is good for the country. I love desperation in my enemies.

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 4:58PM

Nothing wrong with a bit of sadism, tying up the wife and hitting her lightly with a belt can be pleasurable, too.

Truth to Power| 11.8.11 @ 5:22PM

I didn't think you "liked" women.

Quartermaster| 11.8.11 @ 5:41PM

Brooks is the village idiot. We feed him a bit now and again for the entertainment value of his ravings.

His ravings against Clint and Jack are among the best endorsements one could hope for.

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 6:13PM

"His ravings against Clint and Jack"

IMO Clint is alright.
Jack in Wi. is motivated by hatred, not by politics.

Truth to Power| 11.8.11 @ 7:02PM

Jack and Alan have a lot in common. I believe Alan is just doing his man crush thing.

Doorgunner| 11.8.11 @ 7:25PM

And Brooks is motivated by Alzheimer's.

Fred C. Dobbs| 11.9.11 @ 1:27PM

I love desperation in YOU! And I am NOT a christian or ANY other superstition.

DGinGA| 11.8.11 @ 12:17PM

I disagree that this is because Cain is a black Republican. It is because he is a CONSERVATIVE Republican. Period. The left (and the establishment, cocktail party Repubs) HATE this guy and FEAR him because he is so popular among the mainstream republicans. The libs want Obama and the cocktail-party Repubs want Mittens Romneycare. I will not be surprised to discover that this whole campaign comes from the GOP and NOT Obama.

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 3:39PM

Clint is a good guy, he has differences but isn't motivated by hate.
Jack in Wi. is anotrher ball game; so one is prepared to believe Jack is not a hater.

Jack in Wi| 11.8.11 @ 5:42PM

To Alan: Blessed are the Peacemakers. Those who live by the sword will die by the sword. The Truth will set you free. Turn the other cheek and turn it again. What you do to the least of my brothers you do unto me. I haul food to food pantries and soup kitchens 3 times a week. I pray and work for peace, truth, and justice everday of my life. I have been involved in pro-life activities for decades. Ya I am some hater.

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 10:12PM

Yes, you are. One can get deductions by hauling food to food pantries. You, sir, are an antisemitic scumbag.

Fred C. Dobbs| 11.9.11 @ 1:29PM

Klintoon is a multi lying, egg sucking dikwad and SHOULD HAVE served time and been perp walked OUT of the WH.

canuckistani| 11.8.11 @ 4:36PM

the whole campaign is from the GOP. BHO would relish the chance to keep this guy in it for a lot longer.

There is no double standard here, folks. The electorate knew about slick Willie and elected him twice. The GOP congress used the nuclear option and we had the likes of Newtie and Sanford passing judgement on him. The public knew this was a charade of epic proportions.

When you see redneck states like Mississippi even contemplating a complex personhood issue, it means they have lost their place as the idiot squad of the nation and the GOP once again exhibits their laser focus on the economy.
If the GOP wants to assume the righteous path, they better be sure to walk it - every second of every day and the candidate must be pristinely clean. That's the bargain.

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 5:00PM

Canuckistani,
these GOP fools will elect us another Rove administration in '16. Hell does exist- it is a place on Earth.

Truth to Power| 11.8.11 @ 7:07PM

You got the right idea Alan. We will elect but we are still thinking about who. Your game has been played and lost. Next year will look even worse. Socialism is failing all over the world and the full consequences haven't been felt yet. The 21% have made a big mess and it needs to be cleaned up. You Axelrod groupies need to admit that you have been bamboozled.

Quartermaster| 11.8.11 @ 5:44PM

DG, the Obummer is scared to death of Cain. The left is not so afraid of Paul because the left knows that anyone that is talking about the things that have to be done will be viewed as a raving maniac. But Cain's skin color combined with his status as a faux-csonservative scares the bejabbers out of them.

Jack in Wi| 11.8.11 @ 7:11AM

The world is in a huge soverign debt crisis. The worst in the history of the world. The lunatics in Israel and their pals here are trying to drag us into WW3. Yet Jeff Lord is trying to justify all the harrassment claims that Herm Cain had years ago. At least 2 women were paid off. Cain hasn't come clean. The only thing the the Cain reality show is doing is stopping a debate that the country needs on the issues. Herman Cain get out of the way. You can't handle your own emotions or give a rational excuse for your actions. Clarence Thomas confronted the claims against him forcefully and on the same day they were made. The next day he went through hours of grilling. Herman has been hiding and jiving for weeks.

He is ignorant of economics, History, foreign policy, geography, and monetary policy. His 999 plan is a disaster for people that want the Federal government to shrink not grow. His whole purpose in this race was to be a stalking horse to divide the conservative vote. Mr. Federal Reserve, Mr. Tarp and Mr. endlesss wars for Israel should do the right thing and step down. I predict he will do the exact opposite and keep this mess going for awhile longer.

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 8:37AM

how about that Paul! dropped another point in the polls.

Clint| 11.8.11 @ 11:22AM

"Top Tier: Ron Paul Polls Third In Three Early Voting States

GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul is polling in third in the key early voting states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, according to a new CNN/Time poll released yesterday.

The Texas Congressman attracted 12% in telephone polls with potential voters in all three states."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 11.8.11 @ 2:39PM

"Top Tier"..?

In a group 0f 6 people, he's # 3.

Wow. What an accomplishment.

In the real world, we call that "mediocrity."

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.8.11 @ 4:47PM

No, he meant top tier in the sense that there are many candidates who never made it to the national scene, so in a sense, all the candidates are "top tier".

Jack in Wi| 11.8.11 @ 6:13PM

In a compilation of polls, as of October 31st, in Real Clear Politics Dr. Paul and Willard Romney are the only 2 within striking distance of Barack Obama. It is time for the only 2 candidates who have a chance of winning to have an long, honest series of debates about where this country is headed. Only Dr. Paul and Romney have the national organizations and the money to win this nomination or election. If there is no honest debate and an attempt to reconcile differences you can give Obama his keys back for the White House. We are not going to follow the Republican establishment and the neocons over the cliff again. The Wall Street Journal has published a poll in which 18% of the voters would vote for Dr. Paul in a 3rd party race. Dr. Paul has resisted such calls. But there will be a vigorus 3rd party if we are stuck with an idiot like Herman Cain.

chuck| 11.8.11 @ 8:28PM

12%.......1 in 8.............WOW, AM I IMPRESSED!!!!!

No.

Jack in Wi| 11.9.11 @ 2:47AM

Romney runs best against Obama. Ron Paul is second by a couple of points. Ron Paul also runs by the far the best among independents, and conservative Democrats. No Republican can be elected without a lot of votes from these people. Ron Paul also has the issues on his side. Vast majorities want the wars ended, the Fed audited, all foreign aid cut, and a vast cutting of Federal government power. I have been calling for an honest debate on the issues. Instead we get the Herman Cain reality show and a lot of nonsense from people like Gingrich, Romney, Santorum and the rest of the 7 dwarfs. No pro war pro bankster Republican can be elected. Obama is going to run as the man who got Bin Laden and Got us out of Iraq. Bernanke is doing everything posssible to the economy before the election to make another bubble. He will be running as Mr. peace and prosperity. He will have a billion dollars and all the vast powers of the Federal Government to help him keep his job.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.8.11 @ 9:14AM

Yes, as ususal, its ZE CHOOOOOOOOOOS who're about to bring the world to the brink of armaggeddon. Christ almighty, you people are as tiresome as you are disgusting. You're just as bad as this money hungry haint in this story.

JR| 11.8.11 @ 9:17AM

Lunatics in Isreal? Your the lunatic who wants to bend over for the Islamofacists in the middle east cause they get mad at us for being Isreal's friend. While I agree with some of Paul's domestic policy ideas, when it comes to the world he's a complete p***y.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.8.11 @ 9:26AM

He's the neo Chamberlain, that's who he is.

Mal_Content| 11.8.11 @ 10:44AM

So Iran is Nazi Germany pre-WW2? That's not a stretch at all....

Con Chef (NB) | 11.8.11 @ 11:48AM

I was speaking on his feckless appeasement foriegn policy as a whole. He IS Chamberlain-esque in that vein. And Iran threatening to kill all the Jews in Israel, the Jews are the cause of the world's problems, etc? Yep, no similarities THERE. Alliances with China, Russia & Venezuela. Nah. Nothing nefarious at all. Just keep your head burried in the sand or between Ru Paul's legs as usual.

Clint| 11.8.11 @ 11:55AM

Dr.Ron Paul's Foreign Policy AdvisorMichael Scheuer, Former CIA Chief of The bin Laden Unit,

On Iran, The President should,

3.) Call in Israel's ambassador to the United States and tell him that we understand that Israel believes Iran is a threat to its survival, and that we agree that Israel has every right to defend itself. If Israel believes it must go to war with Iran, then so be it. But also tell the ambassador that if Israel attacks Iran, the U.S. administration will declare U.S. neutrality in the war and immediately cut off military and financial support to all combatants in the war.

4.) Speak to the American people and tell them to expect to be brutally propagandized by U.S. citizen Israel-Firsters through AIPAC, their ubiquitous media shills, and the men and women they own in the U.S. Congress and federal bureaucracy. Urge Americans to ignore this effort by U.S. Israel-Firsters to get them to send their soldier-children to fight in a religious war in which the U.S. has no genuine national interest at stake, and in which U.S. participation would further bankrupt the country, require the reintroduction of conscription, and put America at war with all of the Muslim world -- Shia and Sunni -- for the foreseeable future."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.8.11 @ 12:17PM

Hey Clint, maybe if you post this shit another 600 times, someone here might be convinced to vote for your irrelevant candidate.

Doctor Right| 11.8.11 @ 2:48PM

It's ridiculous, isn't it?

He has about 5 total posts that he inserts ALL the time.

What a fool.

irish19| 11.8.11 @ 4:35PM

He does know his rugby though. I gotta give him that. Sean too for that matter. Politics, not so much.

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 5:02PM

"He does know his rugby though. I gotta give him that."

And good taste in films; The French Connection is a good flick.

Mal_Content| 11.8.11 @ 12:08PM

These military welfare-queens LOVE foreign aid!

Get this Con-Chef, the US works with all of those countries you listed also (trade and treaty)...does that make us nefarious? These simple-minded liberal f@cks at TAS don't even admit that their die-hard lust for taxpayer dollars getting dumped into the military is FOREIGN WELFARE.

Ronnie spent too much money? Oh, it's OK, he was one of us...

Con Chef (NB) | 11.8.11 @ 12:16PM

Funny, last I checked, we don't sell weapons to those nations. But you neo liberal Chamberlain-esqe Ru Paulites with your Polly-Annish "they'll leave US alone if we leave THEM alone" foriegn policy is about as realistic as Star Trek. I'll bet you & Clit got beat up a lot as kids, didn't you?

Mal_Content| 11.8.11 @ 12:21PM

I dislike welfare. You can rationalize begging for more of it all you want.

I wonder, does it make your head spin to call yourself a conservative in one breath and beg for more foreign welfare in another? Probably not I guess.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.8.11 @ 12:28PM

So now national security & protection of global interests equate to "foreign welfare." How bout "the best defense is a good offense."

BUT, allow me to quantify that. This country has been out of the buisness of actually WINNING wars since Aug. 10, 1945. If we got back to doing it like that, there'd be less war, for sure, & I doubt we'd have as many "brushfire" type conflicts. I certainly don't like wars run by committee. 58,000 of my Dad's brothers were victims of that. Which means that while I supported our going INTO Iraq, the plan SUCKED. Afghanistan? Again, hearts & minds. That's why we're still there. I can't remember who it was said this, but I think it was a Vietnam era guy my Dad told me about who said, "grab em by the balls & their hearts & minds will follow." THAT'S how this nation needs to fight.

Mal_Content| 11.8.11 @ 12:47PM

So you want the foreign welfare money to be spent more efficiently...by our obviously inept government.

Don't hold your breath on that one.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.8.11 @ 1:03PM

We can only change it one election at a time. Its not like any one candidate would be able to waive his hands & bring all the troops home & close all the bases. Any more than Obama bringing down the sea levels.

Mal_Content| 11.8.11 @ 1:13PM

So the President isn't Commander In Chief anymore? That's news.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.8.11 @ 3:26PM

There are those things called treaties, which, once ratified, have the force of law. Just like the one we have with Taiwan.

Mal_Content| 11.8.11 @ 3:55PM

The US is bankrupt...you know, the economy? So are we required to maintain these bases and our foreign obligations despite the fact that we can't afford them?

What should US citizens sacrifice so that we can meet your lofty expectations of our foreign policy? Should we cut SS to keep our foreign obligations intact? Medicare? Ag. subsidies? Energy subsidies?

You keep telling me that we can't draw down our foreign presence, but how do we afford keeping it intact? Any ideas?

Jack in Wi| 11.8.11 @ 5:48PM

Israel is the greatest welfare queen in the history of the world. It has cost the people of this country many hundreds of billions in direct costs and intrest and several trillion dollars in indirect costs and worldwide bad will. Let Israel stand on it's own 2 feet after 63 years on the teat of the American taxpayer or let it go out of business, like any other failed enterprise.

Stormzeye| 11.8.11 @ 4:06PM

Haven't you seen them goose-step? They've already rid themselves of Bahais and other undesireables.

Jack in Wi| 11.8.11 @ 6:00PM

There are more Jews left in Iran [ 25000 ] then in any other Muslim country. They could leave any time and go to Israel or someplace else, but refuse to do so. The history of the Jews in Persia is long and the relations between Jews and their neighbors was friendly and good. Most Jews who have left Iran haven't gone to Israel ,but to the USA or someplace else. Quite a few live in Los Angeles. I bet most of those people would be against bombing Iran. The Iranian people are a handsome, peaceful, Aryan people who have invaded no one for hundreds of years. It is time to stop sanctions, send an ambassador to Iran, and to negotiate a peaceful resolution of our differences. An attack on Iran would be a disaster for the world's economy and possibly lead to WW3. Peace is the only answer. Shalom.

Nick| 11.8.11 @ 6:32PM

Aryan people?

Really, Jackboot?
Sometimes, you make this too easy!

It's time to bomb, bomb, bomb - bomb, bomb, Iran. As McLame put it. I know Hitler would never have approved, but, unlike you, Jackboot, I don't care what he would have thought.

I would never defend Hitler, either, like you repeatedly do, here at AmSpec, der schweinhund führer.

Jack in Wi| 11.9.11 @ 12:50AM

The Persians are the original Aryan people. Look it up. They also lived in peace with the Jews for 3000 years. They don't have any nuclear weapons and a threat to no one, even Israel. The former heads of the Mossad Meir Dagan, and Ephraim Halevey have called an attack on Iran a disaster that will cause trouble and hatred in neighborhood for 100 years. They were joined by former Shin Bet head Yuval Diskin and many others in the Israeli military and security services.

Nick| 11.9.11 @ 1:57PM

Who cares, der schweinhund führer?
They need to be bombed, post haste.

chuck| 11.8.11 @ 8:35PM

So why is the nutcase, Iamonajihad, pursing nuclear weapons and talking about wiping Israel off the map?
Oh, sorry Jack, wrong question to you, as you would like to see Israel wiped off the map too.

And you can shove your "shalom" up your %*&.
I'm not buying it, you damned anti-Semite.

Jack in Wi| 11.9.11 @ 12:59AM

Wrong again Chuckie. You listen to to much Israeli propaganda. He said the Zionist entity will vanish from the face of the earth. That is just like the Soviet Union vanished or Nazi Germany vanished. The people are still there but their rotten goverments and movements are gone. He never said death to the Jews. I don't know how many hundreds of times I have read Zionists both Christian and Jewish calling for genocide against millions of innocent Muslims. The only answer is peace and reconciliation. Margaret Thatcher said. " It is a lot better to jaw, jaw then to war war." Shalom.

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 10:14PM

Right. With nukes, which the UN has noted they are building (not exactly a pro-Israel organization) Iran will have the hitting power of several Nazi Germanies.

Not a stretch at all.

Clint| 11.8.11 @ 11:49AM

Dr.Ron Paul,
“Our military is already dangerously extended, and this administration
wants to expand our involvement. When will our bombing in Libya end? Is
President Obama seriously considering military action against Syria? We
are facing $2 trillion dollar deficits, and the American taxpayer cannot
afford any of it.

“Our military’s purpose is to defend our country, not to police the
Middle East.

“As the President prepares to send even more support to Egypt, we should
be reminded that it was our foreign aid that helped Mubarak retain power
to repress his people in the first place. Now we have to deal with the
consequences of those decisions, yet we keep repeating the same mistakes.

“I am not the only one who can see the absurdities of our foreign
policy. We give $3 billion to Israel and $12 billion to her enemies.
Most Americans know that makes no sense.

“We need to come to our senses, trade with our friends in the Middle
East (both Arab and Israeli), clean up our own economic mess so we set a
good example, and allow them to work out their own conflicts.”

Ronald Reagan,
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Mr. Conservative| 11.8.11 @ 10:27AM

Sure, "he is ignorant of economics, History, foreign policy, geography, and monetary policy," but he's not a Mormon!!!!

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 3:40PM

Clint is a good guy, he has differences but isn't motivated by hate.
Jack in Wi. is another ball game; so one is prepared to believe Jack is not a hater.

Mike Hawk| 11.8.11 @ 4:37PM

Clint is a kook and a cyber-bully. Other than that he hates everyone not a Paulbot equally, his threats notwithstanding.

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 5:13PM

"Jack in Wi. is another ball game; so one is prepared to believe Jack is not a hater."

I meant NO one is prepared to think Jack is not a hater. Clint merely has a different perspective. I saw his website; nothing wrong with it: some people like the old fashioned life, some do not.
But now, I wouldn't even THINK of voting for Ron Paul, he is a low-level conspiracy nut. National Review wrote Paul is 85% normal, 15 percent conspiracist; which means there is 15 percent turd in the punch bowl.
and "conspiracist" means paranoid!

canuckistani| 11.8.11 @ 4:38PM

Lord is another RR apologist and uses his space to muddy the waters.

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 5:06PM

RR wasn't bad, however Obama will do much better; he is learning fast. RR will be HISTORY by the time Obama leaves office- hopefully in 2017 and not next year.

Anthony| 11.8.11 @ 7:51AM

Mike has hit the nail on the head. This woman has zero credibility given the fact that she has hired the lowest of the lowest bottom feeder lawyers in America.
And how is it that it took 14 years for this woman from Chicago to come forward? Cain has been active in politics before his presidential run, so where was this woman? And what exactly has she accomplished? There is no law suit, no crime, it's justher 15 min of fame with her hag leftist lawyer by her side.
This is a classic leftist hit job on a conservative black man who doesen't know his place. This is Allred at her worst; a classic case of she said, he said, no proof, go ahead Cain, try and prove a negative!!
Lawyer Allred needs a stimulus package of her own. She gives bottom feeders a bad name.

Tom Foley| 11.8.11 @ 9:07AM

Regardless of the TRUTH, we must consider the seriousness of the charge.

loulou| 11.8.11 @ 10:35AM

And the APPEARANCE of impropriety.

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 12:23PM

and the probability of a con by the Left.

canuckistani| 11.8.11 @ 4:39PM

She's a registered repub from Chicago.....and blonde. No left con.

Truth to Power| 11.8.11 @ 7:12PM

You need to get over the Black and Blonde thing. The fixation of the left on matters of race is fascinating but probably destructive to their psyches. If you were straight, Canuk I believe your wife would be similar to her. She runs her personal life like a Democrat.

chuck| 11.8.11 @ 8:37PM

Bleached blond, look at her eyebrows, and the dark roots. Although she seems dumb enough to be a blond.

DGinGA| 11.8.11 @ 12:22PM

Excuse me, SERIOUSNESS of the charge? In Jones v. Clinton, the judge ruled that a SITTING governor taking a CURRENT state employee to a hotel room, EXPOSING himself and telling her to "kiss it" did not meet the standards of sexual harassment in a court of law. So even if Cain is guilty (which I do not believe), he is alleged to have met with a FORMER employee, a female, and may have made a crude PASS at her, which she rejected, at which point he took her back to her hotel. According to the LAW, there is no harassment there. This is just a smear campaign and I, for one, am sick and tired of it! I will now go and contribute even MORE money to Herman Cain's campaign!

daddio| 11.8.11 @ 10:54AM

And the fact that the accuser just happens to have some severe financial difficulties right now, and is being offered a lot of money for her story would have nothing to do with this, right? Riiiiight!!!

vtwin| 11.8.11 @ 11:49AM

“Just happens to have some severe financial difficulties right now,” Yea, she's a 99%'er.

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 12:24PM

Obama has cast a wide shadow...has he not? I'm with ya on 99% ineffectiveness quotient!

Anthony| 11.8.11 @ 11:09AM

I have to apologize to all the creatures that make up the variety of bottom feeders that serve a useful enviornmental function, be it in our oceans or other such enviorns.
Gloria Allred is a bottom feeder who serves no useful purpose, she is a Darwinian mistake of nature.

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 10:06AM

Lord did not mention in his headline the $750,000 paid to Jones, merely about the case being dismissed.

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 10:40AM

The collateral issue is that you had your chances in 1992, 2000, and 2004... but you BLEW IT. It's not that there's anything wrong with Cain- his resume is flawless- but one could say the same about Bush 43; he was tough, dedicated, smart-but-not-intellekshuel, brave. Yet what good did it do?? Bush was in over his head-- George Washington-expectations dumped on Bush for America's longest war, probably as bad as any war (and Jack in Wi. thinks if only Israel didn't exist life would be better).
America is old fashioned (as James Reston said:
"Americans are a funny people, they change things with their hands yet they are very conservative [old fashioned is more accurate]")
so you might win-- however don't blame some of us if we don't dance out of bed election day November of 2012 knowing you might elect another memoir-writer.

Doctor Right| 11.8.11 @ 2:42PM

Bush was "in over his head"??

Oh, well...so much for his Ivy League education, defeating the Taliban, creating two delicate but still democratic countries in a very undemocratic part of the world, and presiding over a ROARING economy that was only inevitably brought low by the housing market crash (caused wholly by idiotic democrat policies).

Seriously, Alan...with the likes of such "inalekshuls" like yourself populating the ranks of the Left, the fact that we can't defeat you fools should be embarrassing...You're a walking cliche'-machine.

canuckistani| 11.8.11 @ 4:41PM

DR, don't start.

Junior was a disaster, we only have time to enumerate the ways onto eternity.

Alan Brooks| 11.8.11 @ 5:17PM

"DR, don't start."

If only DR wouldn't start! Bush WAS in over his head.

Truth to Power| 11.8.11 @ 7:17PM

Except for allowing the killing of New Mexicans with aerial drone strikes, Obama is way over his head. While important issues will be being dealt with he will be off in Bali with little miss Junk in the Trunk Michelle. I hope their is plenty of fried food there. She can be one cranky witch when she can't get 4000 calories of grease per day.

Dave | 11.8.11 @ 10:11AM

Let's cut to the chase. If this overly painted porcine wearing the Wal-Mart hair extensions, with the badly aging Momma Porcine by her side were named Jennifer Flowers, the hag crew at The View would have their support hose all wadded up trying to dis what they'd consider "just another blond bimbo lookin' for her fifteen of fame, and a quick payday at the end." Of course that isn't going to happen because the alleged perp's name in this case isn't Bubba, John, or those two porkers from Massachusetts named Teddy and Barney.

Incidentally, any word on who's paying Petunia Allred's fee for this deal? It's sure not here client, Miss Petunia Jr.

RND| 11.8.11 @ 10:22AM

Now, Dave, don't ya know: Gloria Allred is doing this case for Ms. Bialek pro bono.

Because that is the kind of concerned citizen women she is.

Just like Gloria's legal aid & counsel to the Latina housekeeper client in California that commenced exactly three weeks prior to the 2010 November election day and, well, terminated on election night.

Mike Hawk| 11.8.11 @ 4:41PM

Pro Bono with Soros money.

DGinGA| 11.8.11 @ 12:24PM

In fact, the media would be talking about trolling trailer parks with dollar bills looking for a bimbo to make allegations against _____ (fill in candidate's name here.) 'Cause that's what I remember they did with Paula Jones.

Frank Drackman| 11.8.11 @ 10:19AM

For all her Bee-Otch-i-ness, I find Gloria All-Red "Strangley Alluring" as Captain Kirk used to say when he'd run into some hot little Alien with 2 Va-JJs...
and (HT Wikipedia) did you know that Jap-y Lisa Bloom from CourtTV is Gloria's daughter??
Talk about a 3-way even Andrew Dice Clay wouldn't do...
Frank

irish19| 11.8.11 @ 4:40PM

That was disturbing.

chuck| 11.8.11 @ 8:42PM

You know Frank, its obvious you're a sickie, not that there's anything wrong with that, but..........JUST DAMN!

Drudge Ette Obama| 11.8.11 @ 6:36AM

This things smells like fish - I don't care what her now-live-in boyfriend says.

If this woman really wanted her son to be proud of her, then she would have kept out of the limelight to protect him from exposure and harassment, and not used the word "genitals" (this is an Alred-ism added in for triple shock only.) Alred probably thought she was being clever with that one...why didn;t she tell Bialek to say he tried to shove her head into his scrotum? (Probably overkill.)

There are many questions here and questions should have been allowed. This woman filed three bankruptcy cases - two with her spouse John Bialek - and all three dismissed. She has held multiple jobs. She allegedly targets Cain for job help? Divorce, husband files paternity action, bad bleach job - this is someone who knows this is her last chance and she's taking it.

We may never know what happened - maybe she made the first move and was rebuked, then in anger reversed places. She may be slightly unbalanced. Maybe not. But this whole thing stinks.

Everything here sounds very forced and doubtful. This is why we get a Bill Clinton or Netanyahu-hating Obama in office.

florin| 11.8.11 @ 7:39AM

If you could disbar a lawyer for sleaze, Allred would be out on her ear. It's repulsive the way she hovers over her 'clients', touching them, prompting them...for all we know, the woman Bialik made a pass at Mr. Cain...if he had tried to molest her, would she have gotten into the car with him to let him drive her home...???? it smells worse than fishy...it smells rotten to the core...and Allred should be disbarred. How did Allred and Bialek get together? Who brought them together? This needs to be thoroughly investigated...now!

Teaghan| 11.8.11 @ 7:58AM

Follow the trail of cash folks. And how she hid behind her hair and had to read from a script is suspect in my mind as well. Is this the obama machine trying to destroy Cain or one of the other Republicans. Whoever it is, it's Politics of personal destruction.

BackToBasics| 11.8.11 @ 8:25AM

And read poorly with much hesitation as if none of really happened. Women who are really offended do not talk about doing this for the "cause of all women."

At his news conference today it will be intersting to see what Cain says. He may not even have met some of them but in any event Cain needs brutally honest himself; like if the women came on to him without encouragement and were denied and felt themselves spurned.... As much as I like him and will continue to support him, he's got to be 100% truthful no matter the facts. These allegations even if untrue or a case of mistaken perceptions are beyond the point of being nuanced.

BackToBasics| 11.8.11 @ 8:26AM

corr - needs to be

Redatheart| 11.8.11 @ 9:16AM

BacktoBasics provides a new dimension here: all these women came on to Cain and it was HE that was sexually harassed, touched inappropriately and had suggestive comments made toward. Wow! Hope Rush and Hannity read this so they can take up a new vein to this story! Poor Herman, once again.

As for why this woman didn't come forward years ago, why would she? What point would there be to call a national press conference and tattle on a guy that nobody knew? There's safety in numbers. She came forward NOW because others are talking too and somebody needed to be first to give a face and name. She saw what was happening last week; Cain was going to get a pass. A guy that she believes is deceptive and has secrets that values voters and conservative women would find inappropriate. Somebody had to take the first arrow in telling the American voter about a candidate that hasn't been totally honest. For that, she gets the rap well documented here. She wrongly believed that as a Republican and tea party member, the conservatives would consider her voice credible. But no, instead she's maligned and the drums continue to beat that there's nothing sleazy about Cain's behavior, no worries that NRA paid hush money on his behalf. Nah, he's good. It's the white women that are the liars and trash.

tym| 11.8.11 @ 10:33AM

Redatheart, I had not heard that Ms. Bialek of the Chicago area is a Tea Party sympathizer or might have conservative leanings. If so, good.

But:

Do you know any Tea Partier (man or woman), conservative thinker, or sound moral person that would willingly allow Gloria Allred to represent him or her? Do you? I don't.

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 12:27PM

jeez...are you this stupid? or dishonest? the only COA you can come up with is to call a National Press Conference.

how about filing a complaint with the police? how about assault charges.

clown.

Grzmlyk| 11.8.11 @ 4:18PM

Y'all are are racist, redatheart.

Bigot.

idalily| 11.8.11 @ 3:15PM

BackToBasics, I totally agree with you here. I liked Cain, but became more lukewarm to him as I listened more. He ceased to be my first choice before any of this broke. That said, my first reaction to Ms. Bialek's statement was, "Why are you reading your statement? Can't you just tell us what happened? I mean, if it's so clear in your memory that you remember exactly what outfit you wore, so why do you need to read a statement? And really, "doing this for all women"? Oh, please. As a woman, I can say no woman to whom this happened would think this way or tell her story by reading it word for word off a sheet of paper. And she certainly wouldn't pose for photo ops with the guy (smiling, yet!) who grabbed her head, shoved it toward his crotch and implied he had the power to give her a job. Sorry, not buying it. She's lying.

OTOH, Cain does need to tell the truth, brutally, openly, without ANY equivocation. If he says anything less than, "I did NOT do this. This allegation is completely false, she is LYING," if he hems and haws and tries to be tricky in any way, he's done.

So, even if these allegations are laid to rest, what if he's the nominee and the October surprise is a new woman coming out of the closet to say he did something? If Cain's not genuinely clean and he becomes the nominee, God help us all, because if he denies all these charges but he's lying to us, the Dems will find out, and spring it on us just before the election. Then we will be toast.

Personally, I prefer Gingrich at this point. We know all about his randy exploits already. And despite that, he really is the smartest guy in the room. He has the gravitas to be POTUS and can deal with a tricky Congress. He's been in those trenches. I have concerns about him, but fewer than I have with Cain. Or Perry. And Romney makes me gag. I'm down to Newt by default.

Grzmlyk| 11.8.11 @ 4:38PM

I pretty much agree with you, Idalilly.

I was briefly enamored of Cain, but his ignorance on many matters (didn't know what a neocon was, didn't know what the "right of return" was, clearly doesn't get the details of foreign policy or economics, punted with Gingrich in the debate, etc.) just doesn't cut the mustard.

You don't have to be a wonk, but you can't be blithely ignorant; that's the province of Democrats. I just don't think Cain has a broad enough knowledge base to avoid becoming a hostage to special interests and pet projects promulgated by the mainstream media. He may have a conservative keel, but he doesn't have enough draft to navigate rough ideological waters.

I suspect this Bialek woman is lying; why, you could almost see the corrupt, greedy, narcissistic, liberal lickspittle Gloria Allred's lips moving when Bialek gave her statement.

But, Idalilly, even if Cain survives this - which he won't - and he IS telling the truth, what's to stop the DNC from paying another bimbo to come forward with yet another tale made of wholecloth?

And even if he "comes clean" and confesses some mistunderstandings or perhaps quasi-loutish behavior, so what? Then what may have been an honest mea culpa and divulgence of all of the skeletons in his closet will still be labeled incomplete or just the tip of the iceberg as long as the democrats continue the drip-drip-drip of bimbo eruptions.

The mainstream media has long since proven that, when it comes to Republicans, all that matters is making the charge. Which means all of our candidates are sitting ducks.

So Cain is toast no matter what he does.

And it's a safe bet that the DNC has a passel o' whores waiting in the wings to smear Romney or whomever gets the nod.

With regard to Gingrich, yes, he's smart. But I don't trust him as far as I could throw him. That TV commercial he made on the couch with Nancy Pelosi a few years ago, in which he lamented the scourge of global warming, told me everything I need to know about Gingrich and his cravenness; the cravenness is stronger than the intellect, and the intellect would wither in office even as the cravenness would grow exponentially.

irish19| 11.8.11 @ 4:50PM

"Which means all of our candidates are sitting ducks."
So, in your opinion, what???? We should just throw up our hands and cancel the election? Start planning zero's next inaugural. Before a single primary vote has even been cast.
I say NO!! We have got to fight this tooth and nail. If we have to get dirty to win (and we will) then we have to "screw our courage to the sticking place" and commit to do it. Otherwise, this nation is doomed. At the very least, we have to commit to taking back the Senate, with CONSERVATIVES, and maintaining or increasing our command of the House.

Grzmlyk| 11.8.11 @ 7:08PM

Actually, irish19, that's my point. If we are going to accept the mainstream media's rules of the game, they can pick off our candidates like fish in a barrel (or like sitting ducks) at will.

We do have to fight but, frankly, after watching Krauthammer and Johah Goldberg, the ostensible "conservatives" on Bret Baier's All-Star panel last night, go on and on about how Cain is done, I have no confidence whatsoever that there is the will - certainly among the mainstream media and Democrats, but also among Establishment Republicans - to keep our people from being anything but sitting ducks.

George W. Bush - destroyed (even though he danced to liberals' tune). George Allen - destroyed. Sarah Palin - destroyed. Rick Santorum - destroyed. Michele Bachman - destroyed. Rick Perry - destroyed. I believe there's a pattern here; in fact, Reagan is the only conservative in the last half century who was not crushed by the media/political complex.

And, should Romney get the nomination, he will either be destroyed by the very same smear machine or else his fecklessness will help him weather the storm among enough independents to get him over the hump. Yipee. Democrat lite. It's win-win for the Washington money suckers whether it's Romney or Obama; any differences are just the art with which one or the other kicks the can down the road.

Given the track record with respect to the fates of genuine conservatives at the hands of the media, I am not optimistic. But yes, by all means, we must fight. We don't have much choice. And, frankly, I'm all for getting just as dirty as Democrats get.

But we don't have the same tools at our disposal that they do. The sad truth is that the mainstream media still control pop culture in this country, and pop culture today is such that the crime, the atrocities, the instances of blind avarice and selfishness and violence that typify the Occupy Wall Street gatherings are greeted with a wink and a nod by the zeitgeist. By contrast, the Tea Parties, which really have been about peaceful, gentle protest by taxpayers who are tired of carrying freeloaders, have been successfully characterized as racists, bigots, lunatics, violently anti-social miscreants who want to do nothing but hoard their wealth.

Does that tell you that this country is making a turn toward the conservative? I disagree with those, like Rush Limbaugh, who continue to contend that this is a conservative country. Like hell it is. If it were, how did we come to vote ourselves into this socialist sewer?

In that environment, I am not optimistic. No, my theory is that this country has quite literally lost its collective mind and is already over the cliff and, as a result, collapse - both cultural and fiscal - is inevitable.

But I don't see why we should lie down before these fools and knaves.

idalily| 11.8.11 @ 7:21PM

"But, Idalilly, even if Cain survives this - which he won't - and he IS telling the truth, what's to stop the DNC from paying another bimbo to come forward with yet another tale made of wholecloth?"

Absolutely nothing. Unfortunately.

"With regard to Gingrich, yes, he's smart. But I don't trust him as far as I could throw him."

Neither do I. But I distrust him less than I do Romney, who has yet to vow he'll repeal Obamacare (how can he after MA?). Perry I dislike for other reasons: I don't think he can express conservative ideas in a way that is persuasive enough to win against Obama. And I find him too...slick, a bit like a used car salesman. All this is why I find Cain's lack of knowledge so disheartening. Paul Ryan, where are you when we need you?

Grzmlyk| 11.8.11 @ 8:33PM

Yes, Idalilly, I must sadly agree with you again.

I heard Gingrich on Bret Baier's show tonight - I was making dinner, so I was only half-listening - and he said sitting on that couch with Pelosi was the dumbest thing he ever did - and then he proceeded to hedge on global warming, even leaning toward embracing that canard! WTF?????

DEAL BREAKER. I'm sorry, but global warming is simply world communism's "caring" face - or, at the very least, it's being perpetuated by would-be oligarchs and crony capitalists who want to sell us this bill of goods while they make trillions of dollars on spreading misery around the planet.

I like Paul Ryan too, but even Ryan is all about preserving the welfare state, not eliminating it (that is, after all, political reality). And besides, he's not narcissistic enough to run.

Yeah, Romney would absolutely be a tool of Establishment Washington. Business As Usual.

I heard Perry doing some interview the other day on the radio and he actually sounded pretty good. But his debate performances were cringe-inducingly bad. I was mortified for him. I don't think he'd do well against Obama head-to-head - not least because he'd be another Texas "cowboy," and George Bush is still highly toxic.

What sucks is that the mainstream media, socialists every last one of them, are the ones who are shaping this election, as usual.

But I admit that Cain dug his own grave - not necessarily with these bimbo eruptions, but with his blithe ignorance of so many issues that are near and dear to conservatives' hearts. He almost had me, but then he lost me. You can't just keep telling people you'll find the right answers; you actually have to tell us what they are.

Basically, we are screwed (cue the Ron Paul whack jobs).

BackToBasics| 11.8.11 @ 8:19PM

It has been said and written of Reagan that his strengths came not from being a policy wonk, he wasn't. His strengths came from a strong core of love for America and conservative ideology. He really only had about 4 or 5 important things he wanted to accomplish. He was the greatest delegator of authority perhaps of any president.

Cain strikes me the same way. He's very smart and I think has very good instincts. He has even said he will surround himself with knowledgeable people as any president should.

I see him as a leader and a capable one. He will be the rudder on a ship whereas I think Gingrich could get lost in one of his own long-winded answers. He has some good ideas but he is so pragmatic I do not think he will do enough to roll back the destruction already set in motion by Obam. Carter was certainly into minutiae and yet was the worst president fo rthe last 100 years until Obam came along. Knowing tons of details does not guarantee a good president. Having a strong conservative core with the humble attitude that you will seek good advice, which Cain has said he would do, will more likely result in a good president.

Cain is already staying the course and though he's made some mistakes, he has showed some backbone already.

I continue to back him. If he doesn't get the nomination then of course we all have to defeat Obam. But I think Cain is the best leader and will back him unless he withdraws later on.

Grzmlyk| 11.8.11 @ 8:45PM

Maybe, Back to Basics. But Cain has shown alarming ignorance on some pretty major subjects.

What does that say about the staff he's assembled around him and his ability to pick people who can fill in the gaps? Who is briefing him? Which experts has he brought onboard to lend him their gravitas? I don't see any evidence that there's serious thinking going on anywhere in his campaign.

In fact, it's amateur hour there. It's not just an unconventional campaign - it's a campaign that doesn't know its ass from its elbow, and you can only get so much mileage from telling people it's an unconventional, outside-the-box campaign. It may be, but you should still know what the hell the issues are and have a position on them.

I like Cain a lot; I love his confidence and his straightforwardness. I think he's a genuine conservative and, in many ways, his temperament is ideal for the job.

But I do not think that someone who only follows this stuff in his limited spare time like me should know a lot more about policy than Cain does.

BackToBasics| 11.9.11 @ 2:13AM

Cain was operating on a shoestring budget. Even now, contributions have yet to catch up with his standing in the polls. This would inhibit him from hiring a large staff or perhaps the best that money cna buy at this point. But he sounds the most reasonable and honest and clear-spoken of any candidate out there. As a president he would have no problem finding good staff. I don't remeber the guys name at Burger King but he went to another top official and asked if he would work with him to turn the Philadelphia market around. The man agreed and had a large contribution to the success that Cain had there. Cain was humble about it and went to the right man.

Like you this is part time for me. I know that some things Cain has said are being distorted. I cannot respond to them all. He admitted thathe mispoke about China. He said that he knew they had nuclear weapons but that he was referring to the size of their arsenal. Compared to ours it is still quite small.

But as a slight aside, he'd be better than Clinton signing an executive order overriding sensitive export ban to China so that Loral Corp. could sell China very accurate missile guidance technology.

It is easy to focus on someone's weaknesses. But in studying Reagan a little, I have come to believe that the core beliefs of a person are more important in determining how effective they will be as president or any other position, personal job-related. I am not looking for a policy wonk. I am looking for someone with a strong core, who is conservative enough and with the guts and streetsmarts to stand up to the left. His foreign policy will start with simplicity and that is that America will reaffirm it's relationship with it's allies. That's a great start. He will not be encouraging "Arab Spring" movements either. That's a second great start.

When I watch ium, I see and honest man who is not perfect but loves America and still has many great strengths. The left and the RINO's know it too or else they would not be going after him they way they do. They recongnize his qualities and because of them, want to destroy him.

And another plus is that he's not much of an Repub establishment candidate. If he had been he'd have the cash that a Romney or Perry has.

BackToBasics| 11.9.11 @ 2:14AM

corr - personal or job-related

Grzmlyk| 11.9.11 @ 9:05AM

Not that you'll see this, BacktoBasics, but you make fair points. Certainly about the limitations that Cain's budget imposes.

As I say, I like him. But I think the analogy to Reagan is not entirely apt - Reagan had done a lot of reading and writing on conservatism before he ever entered the public arena. He'd also been president of the Screen Actors Guild, wrote his own speeches for GE and, of course, was a two-term governor of California.

He had political experience before contemplating presidential politics and, popular mythology notwithstanding, he had some intellectual chops with respect to the influences and ideological tenets that led him from being an FDR New Deal Democrat to a conservative Republican.

What bothers me about Cain isn't just that he's ignorant on many topics (and I'm not sure I buy the China nuke excuse, frankly; I mean, he didn't know what a "neocon" is and he didn't know what the "right of return" was - these are relatively basic concepts in daily political discourse). It's that he's blithely ignorant - he doesn't seem to care that there are large gaps in his knowledge, and I fear that some of this ignorance could produce a world view that is not entirely well reasoned. I also fear that, with such ignorance, he could be easily manipulated by the courtiers and other assorted sharks that would be jockeying for position in his administration.

I also wonder if he's intellectually lazy. Its one thing to maintain a 50,000-foot view so you don't get caught in micromanagement a la Jimmy Carter. It's another to be so hands-off that you lose the perception of being a leader. That's where I'd like to see the SS Cain have more draft, if you will, so that he can navigate the swirling waters of Beltway politics with a commanding leadership presence. You don't need to be a full-time wonk, but let's face it - you do have to be the explainer in chief.

Again, I think Cain is a genuine conservative, and, to some extent, I like that he's unruffled by some of these obnoxious "gotcha" questions that reveal a certain inability to play "the game" that the ideologically vacuous Romney plays so well.

Cain may well be the best guy in the GOP field right now, and he may turn out to have greatness in him as president. I am not discounting him.

But I find my doubts increasing - then again, I have long since learned not to fall in love with any politician - including Ronald Reagan. Politicians, of necessity, swim in the sewer of "free money," favors, the viscissitudes of populist sentiment, horse-trading and back-room deals. They ALL emerge from that arena covered in doo-doo.

I do hope Cain survives this firestorm - and, like it or not, the way he deals with it will reveal much about his character; so far, in the aftermath of his news conference yesterday, I think he's doing ok in that regard.

And, in any case, the Media Smear Machine should never again be allowed to put another conservative notch on its belt.

BackToBasics| 11.9.11 @ 9:23AM

I;ve posted some of Reagan weaknesses inthe past here too. I am not blind to them nor to Cain's weaknesses. I understand your concerns. But when I weigh them all in the balances and compare them with the other Repub candidates and based upon my own life experiences as well, I think Cain's strengths outweigh his weaknesses. I think that he will do the most to turn back the communist tide that is trying to come in from the left.

Grzmlyk| 11.9.11 @ 10:12AM

He may be the guy, B2B.

I certainly don't think it's Romney, and I don't trust Gingrich at all - he believes in global warming (as does Romney), which sets off all sorts of alarms in my head, all of them Statist and none of them having to do at all with the vaunted "environment." (Although I'd like to see Cain come out more forcefully against this massive grift, too.)

I liked Bachman in many ways, but, unfortunately, I don't think she has the depth or the poise to go the distance - although I'm willing to be pusuaded otherwise. I liked Santorum, but he's an angry man and he's given to bouts of self-righteousness. I was hoping Perry would impress me more, but he self-immolated in the debates. I don't know that he can dig himself out of that. Ron Paul's foreign policy is, well, Ron Paul's foreign policy - and his supporters are mindless , dangerous members of a cult whose motivating force appears to be vengeance.

Right now, I haven't made my choice. And you are right, no matter what candidate we choose, he or she will be a vastly-flawed human being, like the rest of us.

Unfortunately, I don't think anybody can turn back the communist tide. I really don't. The Washington media/lobbying/welfare-state complex is far more powerful than any president at this juncture, and, like all cancers, it will feed voraciously on the private sector until it kills its host. It's become a Frankenstein's monster whose rampaging can no longer be controlled.

Well, it could be controlled, but there is simply not the will in this country to face reality. That is why I'm convinced that we are NOT a center-right people - we are instead happy vassals of the state, a social democracy populated primarily by sheep who are content in our cocoons of opulent denial as to the inevitable fiscal crisis that will make most of the debate points batted around by mindless journalists entirely moot within one-three years.

We don't need a conservative president, we need a miracle. Cain may well be the guy who comes closest to being able to deliver one. I'm just not convinced.

BackToBasics| 11.10.11 @ 12:51AM

Grzmlyk, yes, we do need a miracle to turn back the communists. I've hoped we could do it peacefully with some good presidents, House and Senate. Otherwise we will have to walk as it were through fire.

So far, in spite of so many problems, our country has maintianed a semblance of the way it was since 1945. One or more crises considerably larger than 9-11 could change that, possibly for the better but also possibly for the worst. Yet, I still hope for the more peaceful route and pray to that end.

BackToBasics| 11.9.11 @ 9:13AM

I appreciate the support. I think Cain has much common sense. I also think he is less afraid of the pol correct "police." White Republican males always have to look over their shoulders about this and it shows in their policy decisions and speeches.

To a good degree, Cain may be able to "show the way" again, Among other qualites he has that I like and have mentioned here and in prior posts, at this point it may take a black man to make progress in straightening the path in pol correctness.

BackToBasics| 11.9.11 @ 9:16AM

Last post was to Idalily.

BackToBasics| 11.8.11 @ 7:48PM

I merely provided one example of a what if and that he needed to be bold ifthere is anything to this at all. I doubt that there is. As I said a few days ago, if this is all they've got on someone who is 65, then I suspect that there's nothing else that will come out. The "machine" as Cain said, wants to destroy him early on. They do not want to risk him getting the nomination because some polls had shown that he is ahead of Obam for the general election.

If there was something worse, they would have hit him with it already.

Shamus| 11.8.11 @ 8:46AM

"Drag a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you'll find." —James Carville, responding to Paula Jones' sexual harassment allegations ...

Dagny Taggert| 11.8.11 @ 10:05AM

Drag a $100 bill through a NOW meeting and you never know what you'll find.

idalily| 11.8.11 @ 3:17PM

Now THAT'S funny.

Mike Hawk| 11.8.11 @ 4:43PM

You wouldn't want to take it home though.

irish19| 11.8.11 @ 4:51PM

EEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWwwwwww!!!!!!

Tina B| 11.8.11 @ 8:21AM

I am 100% with you, D-ette. Every point you made I had pondered. Lawsuits, it's a mentality, and one that enriches bottomfeeders like AllRed.

Most people have never sued anyone. Some people are invovled in one lawsuit after another. And they're not lawyers. Ms. Bialek appears to be such a female. Her family is now under the kleiglights and their lives are changed forever.

The hair, the tan, all props for the believability factor. I know, I've used them, in my darker days. I've had a hand on the back of my head, and rejected the remark that went with it, and lived. I even think I put myself in the perfect position for it to happen, just as Bialek might have.

I walked away a little wiser. She should have, too. I met God, and He led me to sanity. I hope this happens for Ms. Bialek, but I don't know. . .

Moe Blotz| 11.8.11 @ 9:12AM

Fresh from Drudge Report: WIND sponsored Tea Con meeting last month in Chicago, Bialek met Herman Cain backstage and spoke with him for several minutes. Old friends, what?

DGinGA| 11.8.11 @ 12:26PM

Ya know, if her live-in-doctor-boyfriend would just MARRY the hag, she wouldn't have the financial difficulties she apparently has. 'Cause it sounds like they've been "dating" for about 15 YEARS.

Jack London| 11.8.11 @ 6:38AM

What you forget in all this is that times move on. We are in 2011, not the mid-90s. Attitudes to behavior, especially in relationships with an imbalance of power, are less forgiving, as they should be. If Cain admitted his behavior, say as a product of an 'open' marriage, then he may have a chance. But he's just telling lies, which gives him zero chance.

Doorgunner| 11.8.11 @ 7:14AM

What are you, twelve? 1996 wasn't 1896. Madeline Albright was Sec'y of State and Gloria Steinem was already past being yesterday's news. And the behavior Clinton routinely engaged in wasn't acceptable for anyone least of all the President of our country... unless you were a Democrat who could rationalize a flexible morality based upon a smugly perceived sense of greater cause. But even then, we all had to endure a juvenile national debate about the limits of loyalty. Stephanopoulos was most publicly angst-ridden.

But hey, nice try.

And btw, the slutty librarian look just isn't helping her credibility. Maybe she could get one pointers from Amiga Hill's handlers.

Doorgunner| 11.8.11 @ 7:17AM

...some pointers... Anita Hill...

Jack London| 11.8.11 @ 7:57AM

I didn't say Clinton's behavior was acceptable. I'm saying that there's little point in going back 10-20 years to say how our society will now take to Cain. Surely that's obvious.

As for the 'slutty librarian look' – in your dreams, Doorgunner.

Nick| 11.8.11 @ 2:57PM

Sorry, but, bleeding heart liberals can't comment on this subject, Jack.
Because you guys defended the perverted rapist, Bubba Clinton, for over eight years.

Nobody cares what you moral degenerates have to say.

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 8:42AM

"as they should be"

oh BS! that's your value system parading as universal truth. pack sand. it's so obvious what is going on here. this is Democrat attack politics at its level worst. current polls suggest that folks understand what is going on. in keeping with established tradition...my only wish...one Mr Lord avoids...is that Cain proxies apply the Clinton strategy to these women. if that is how feminism is really played these days...so be it!!!

Jack London| 11.8.11 @ 11:49AM

So you're on record as saying you'd prefer to have a society that is tolerant of sexual harassment by power figures? Well, I guess that's the kind of mentality demonstrated by your average AmSpec acolyte.

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 12:31PM

earth to Jack: I'm on record stating the burden of proof remains with folks like you who accept out of hand any statement made on TV. It's particularly telling...about you....that you are so willing to jump into the character assassination without any proof....all based on a scripted TV appearance.

I realize self-parody is all the rage these days....but pining for justice when you won't contenance it yourself?

Jack London| 11.8.11 @ 12:50PM

You pulled me up on my comment that we have become less tolerant of this type of harassment. Now you're trying to change the subject. Go back to square one and try again.

Truth to Power| 11.8.11 @ 3:04PM

Jack, you are a Democrat and have no credibility on this subject. Like everything it is just a political tool to you. You are an amoral slug. Is it "Women never lie" or "If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you'll find?" We will know when party interests are identified. This is the governing principle for the Democratic Party. Your cover has been blown. We see you for what you are; there is no sense in trying to pretend you a moral creature.

Grzmlyk| 11.8.11 @ 7:19PM

"Attitudes to (sic) behavior . . . are less forgiving"? Really? No wonder you threw in that modifier about "relationships with an imbalance of power." Unless, of course, you have a "D" after your name or are a member in good standing of one of America's Preferred Victim Groups. Then you can engage in rape, harrassment, "sexting," homosexual sex, pedophilia, bestiality, polyamory, whatever your little heart desires - and you are just exercising your "civil rights."

Please. Do you people just not care about the double standard you apply to others, or are you actively lying?

And before you throw Weiner up there, remember that 1) NOBODY liked him; he had few friends on either side of the aisle; and 2) we didn't just have a smoking gun, we had the bullets and the corpse as well.

But Bill Clinton, America's Rapist in Chief, is now a Saint of the Democrat party. As it should be, I guess - everything you people do is the opposite of the truth.

Steven Burgess| 11.8.11 @ 6:57AM

Watch Sharon Bialek when she is telling the story. After talking about what happened she stops and a light bulb comes on. She then says when she told Mr. Cain to take her back to the hotel, she says very firmly that Mr. Cain took her back at once or words to that affect. If he had not taken her at once he would have been kidnapping her which is a federal crime and the statute of limitations is 15 years I believe. This would allow the FBI to investigative . As it is the statute of limitations has run on what she says happened. Someone told her to say that.

Redatheart| 11.8.11 @ 7:13AM

With all due respect, Mr. Lord, this is spoken like a true man. Your point here is: What's the big deal? A married man makes a pass and gets shut down. So what? Move on and stop trying to be part of the lynching. This candidate is black and if you gather the courage to tell the nation that he's not as pure and innocent as he claims and that there's a dishonest side to him, you're a racist and a rotten mother/bimbo to boot. Go away! Sex scandals belong to the Democrats; our guys just engage in playful advances in hopes of getting lucky; its the 21st century!!

Conservative men are hell-bent on revisiting the sins of Bill Clinton as a way to slide Herman Cain under the wire. The big voices were curiously quiet yesterday after the press conference. Today, however, expect them to be back in full attack mode toward anybody that isn't fully supporting Cain. As Rush said last week, if you don't stand up for Herman in this, you should be ashamed.

The woman here is now the enemy, the liar, the opportunist. Herman Cain SAYS he is completely innocent so, EXCUSE ME, shut up and get on the Train. The women Clinton took advantage of are national heroes to conservative talk radio hosts.

This is all Ms. Bialek's fault. She should never have contacted a married man and asked for job assistance. Maybe making a move was taboo in the '90's but time moves on and we've evolved morally and declined ethically to the point that unwanted sexual advances are not harassment.

If Herman Cain doesn't end up in the Oval Office, it isn't going to be because a whole lot of men ranging from Limbaugh, Hannity, Morris and a host of others, didn't do their damnest to make it happen for him.

florin| 11.8.11 @ 7:42AM

It's not about the sins of Bill Clinton...it's about the deceitful media which covers up wrongdoings by Dems...even when they are flagrant like Barney Frank and his male lover running a prostitution ring from their home or Barney Frank having an affair with a male CEO at Fannie and Freddie..and many others...

Johnny H| 11.8.11 @ 7:43AM

Excuse me, but your rant is Bravo Sierra. Mr. Lord in this piece repeatedly referred to the standard set for sexual harassment established by the DOJ in the Paula Jones affair. While Mr. Cain's alleged behavior is abhorrent, it does not rise to the level of harassment, again, as established in the aforementioned case.
As a man of some integrity I resent your opening statement and challenge you to offer relevant commentary rather than sarcasm and innuendo.

Tina B| 11.8.11 @ 8:34AM

Excuse me, unwanted sexual advances have NEVER been called harassment. They are unwanted sexual advances. And nice women used to slap faces and decline them. Or flirted their way out of them. Or politely but firmly declined them.

Abraham was aware that his bride was beautiful and men in power would make passes at her. Even just take her for their own, add em to the harem so to speak. Abraham lied twice and said Sarah was his sister, so noone would off him to have his wifey.

Men are often pushy when they think they can get away with it. For all my single years I either worked with this knowledge or against it. I have been a victim of my own stupidity as well as that of some stupid guys.

Harassment is far more than that. A hand up a skirt, or a hand on the back of the neck in a closed car, is a proposition, at least it was for many years. Sorry if that disturbs any of you ladies that have never had it happen to you. If it is harassment to you, take it before a judge and find out. I'm sure there's a nice lawyer somewhere, calling Ms. Gloria AllRed, to help you out.

JR| 11.8.11 @ 9:30AM

I have to say I'm offended by the men are often pushy when they think they can get away with it. Not all men subscribe to this behavior. A proposition I always thought, at least for myself, was going in for a kiss. When I noticed that the action wasnt being preciprocated I abruptly stopped. What kind of men do you hang out with Tina B ?

Tina B| 11.8.11 @ 9:51AM

sorry, in my use of the "men are often pushy" part. I have met pushy men, and if I was being provocative, which I often was, I shouldn't have been shocked if boys or men got pushy. And my choice of young men wasn't what I would have liked it to be.

California Crazy, precocious teen in the 60s culture, hot child in the city, I don't know but I tried to blame it on something besides me.

I really meant that a lot of the lack of respect that I encountered in much of my single life was warranted. I didn't really respect myself then, so why would the young men I ran with respect me?

Jim| 11.8.11 @ 10:53AM

Tina, don't be so hard on yourself but thank you for the honesty. As for JR, he cannot read or wants to act faux prissy. You made it obviously clear that what you are talking about, Tina, is in the past. And the long past.

Note JR's final sentence/question. Present tense verb. JR's a dolt. After all, one should indeed spell the world 'preciprocated,' right?

idalily| 11.8.11 @ 3:24PM

Tina B., as a woman, I am often baffled by the dichotomy of women as examplified by the Cosmo/Sex in the City double standard. In Cosmo, for example, on one page you might find a photo spread about how to dress sexy for the office Christmas party next to an article about what to do when you are sexually harassed. Smart women know if you dress sexy at the office, don't be offended when you get hit on. I do wonder if this whole scenario with Ms. Bialek was really the other way around. She got fired, appealed to him for help/advice, he said, let's talk about it, and in the car, she put her hand on his leg and said, "No, I REALLY need a job." No proof it didn't happen that way.

RCV| 11.8.11 @ 4:50PM

If one believes the accusation, what is described is a misdemeanor sexual assault in every jurisdiction I'm aware of.

Truth to Power| 11.8.11 @ 7:20PM

Put some ice on it RCV. You have a poor track record here. You do seem quite excited to hold a black man to a different standard but anybody that knows a Democrat is not surprised.

RCV| 11.8.11 @ 9:41PM

I don't believe the accusation made against Herman Cain. My only point was that the behavior charged is criminal sexual assault, not "sexual harassment". The accuser seems to me to be highly lacking in credibility for more reasons than can be counted on my fingers.

Truth to Power| 11.8.11 @ 11:48PM

Do tell. Nothing says credibility like top Democrat lawyer Gloria Allred. I really like her name. Don't let your pals know RCV. They might worry all day long about some poor New Mexican buying the farm in a drone attack in Yemen but not lose a minutes sleep about screwing over a black Republican. It is their Democrat roots.

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 8:47AM

ummm...how do you know this woman isn't lying? that's the problem with this whole thing. 14 years after the fact someone appears to basically submarine a candidate who is gaining momentum. a complicit media...absent any proof...is fully willing to participate in the death by non-proof. what the other women have complained doesn't even register on the harassment meter. not only that...those complaint don't square with what this woman is complaining about. there's no pattern. this is attack politics by a Democrat party that only accepts minorities who acknowledge their place in the political scheme of things.

scotchieguy| 11.8.11 @ 11:38AM

Good point. It is classic she said, he said. We will never know the truth. This is all so tawdry. Still, something isn't right. She could be telling the truth, but it just seems so staged with that damn Allred scripting everything, and the hiding behind the blonde hair and the reading glasses, etc. Plus, I do not trust Rahm and the dems, and I don't trust the MSM. I believe Cain is done. What a shame. He didn't deserve this.

DGinGA| 11.8.11 @ 12:31PM

Nothing wrong with contacting a former business associate and asking for help finding a job. People do it all the time. Traveling from Chicago to Washington, DC just to "have dinner," and making a hotel reservation at a very expensive hotel when you're UNEMPLOYED doesn't make a lot of sense, and it DOES send a message that you're interested in more than dinner. You know, in court, the standard is whether or not a REASONABLE person would consider this harassment. I am a REASONABLE person, a female, and someone who has been SERIOUSLY harassed over the years. I think this story is a load of crap and it's not just because I like Herman Cain.

idalily| 11.8.11 @ 3:26PM

As a woman, I agree. Been there, done that, slapped his face, end of story.

Grzmlyk| 11.8.11 @ 8:57PM

Golly, you accept everything "Ms. Bialek" says at face value. Good for you. There's a good feminist.

After all, if a woman makes an accusation of sexual harrassment, NO WAY would she lie about it.

I'm sure you gave the same credence to Kathleen Willey's accusations against YOU-KNOW-WHO.

Redatheart, where'd you go?

Clint| 11.8.11 @ 7:28AM

" Poll: Cain's support drops after harassment allegations surface

A new poll shows presidential candidate Herman Cain losing support among GOP voters after reports of past allegations of sexual harassment.

The poll from Reuters/Ipsos found that 57 percent of Republican voters view Cain favorably, a drop from 66 percent a week ago, before claims of sexual harassment surfaced from when Cain was president of the National Restaurant Association.

The poll found the former Godfather's Pizza CEO's favorability rating declined from 37 percent to 32 percent among all registered voters."

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 8:49AM

Paul dropped also! His foreign policy nonsense is not catching on.

Lee Ghume| 11.8.11 @ 9:14AM

Honkies for Herman, Crackers for Cain. Send $9.99 today.

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 12:35PM

hurts...doesn't it? bahahahahaha!

Clint| 11.8.11 @ 11:24AM

"Top Tier: Ron Paul Polls Third In Three Early Voting States

GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul is polling in third in the key early voting states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, according to a new CNN/Time poll released yesterday.

The Texas Congressman attracted 12% in telephone polls with potential voters in all three states."

The tea Party Steps On carnot's RINO-CINO Face.

Grzmlyk| 11.8.11 @ 8:58PM

Real conservatism steps on Clint-the-whack-job's face. Hard.

Frank Drackman| 11.8.11 @ 7:32AM

First of all, I loved Msssssssss Buy-a-lick in those "American Pie" movies...
And she looks like a Drug Pusher.
Not crack, seriously, if you look up "Annoying Drug Sales Rep" in the dictionary you see her picture.
You know, those bimbos from Merck, Pfizer, who stick there boobs in your face while showing you why there ARB/ACE/CCB has better AUC than the competition...
I don't even know what "AUC" means, just give me a donut, Bee-Otch.
and howcome Mary Joe Kopeckney didn't hold a News Conference 14 years after asphyxiating(NOT drowning, there's a difference) on the floorboard of the Gentleman from Massachussetts Oldsmobile??
Wouldn't that have been great, during Ted Kennedy's horrible Cam-Pain in 1980, have a plaintiff looking young waif, in Zombie Makeup, wet dress, hair, show up at every Kennedy rally???

Frank

Humphrey Dumfries | 11.8.11 @ 9:57AM

LOL.

loulou| 11.8.11 @ 10:41AM

More like a real estate saleswoman. Tanning bed and nail salons. What a grifter.

Bob| 11.8.11 @ 7:34AM

You talk about racial stereotyping, a sexually aggressive black man preying on white woman. Then claiming he's been lynched, high tech. What will the Tea poops do now?

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 8:50AM

I dunno...ask Obama for a Fast & Furious resolution to the matter?

Bydand76| 11.8.11 @ 11:30AM

Maybe we can have a beer summit?

idalily| 11.8.11 @ 3:26PM

Maybe we should ask Vera Baker.

JP| 11.8.11 @ 7:34AM

"This is all Ms. Bialek's fault. She should never have contacted a married man and asked for job assistance."

How do we know that that is even the case. Why didn't she contact the EEOC back in 97 and file suit? Why didn't she come forward during Cain's Senate run? Why did she get all lawyered-up with a known bottom-feeder like Alred?

Purple Lips| 11.8.11 @ 7:47AM

Using past scandals and feeding frenzies as a templete, I predict that "intimate" photos of Ms Bialek will soon surface on the internet. These kinds of things have a way of getting out of control in a hurry.

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 8:51AM

that would be a riot!

Mac Jehoff| 11.8.11 @ 9:21AM

An intimate photograph is linked on Drudge Report now with Herman Cain in a pose with his arm around Bialek's waist. Snapped at a Tea Con event in Chicago last month.

Conserdude| 11.8.11 @ 7:54AM

The difference is that Herman Cain is a republican, not a black man, mr lord. This account by the latest Cain accuser does not come off credible at all. If he really did what she claims, her reason for not describing it to her boyfriend at the time makes no
sense. Throw in that clown Gloria Allred and the whole thing comes off as a massive hit job to finally take out Herman cain. I ain't buying

W| 11.8.11 @ 8:04AM

Bialek said she told Cain " I have a boyfriend" when Cain supposedly put his hand on her thigh. This does not sound credible. If she was offended she would have said " get your hands off me" and maybe slapped him. But she said "I have a boyfriend" implying what he did was ok but she was not interested because she had a boyfriend. Something happened, maybe they were flirting, but what she said does not sound right.

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 8:51AM

bingo!

Frank Drackman| 11.8.11 @ 10:22AM

maybe Herb Cain WANTED to get slapped...
and when she didn't it just ruined the whole sitch-u-asian...

W| 11.8.11 @ 10:59AM

Are you a mind reader Frank? Why would Cain want to be slapped? Get serious.

What was on Bialek's mind and what is on her mind now given she has hired Gloria Allred. Do you see any $$$$$signs, book deal? How do you think Gloria gets paid here.

Did you notice Bialek was reading her story. Was that the first, second, third, or what draft of the story. Why do you have to write he put his hand on my thigh, and I said, Gee I have a boyfriend. What does that mean, if she didnt have a boyfriend then ok?
Two bankrupticies and a pending civil judgment with property attachment sounds like a motive to make some money.

Bob Grant| 11.8.11 @ 8:15AM

The picture of Herman Cain to date is he's a Horn-Dog who probably used his influence to get busy with the ladies. Not unusual for most male figures in this country but what seems troubling is the ethical line he seems to have crossed.

His apparent abuse and privilege does not jive with his image of an amiable guy who is well grounded in conservative principles and heavily involved in his church.

This contradiction is troubling and will only serve as a distraction for him on the campaign trail.

His judgment will now be in question because of his decision to run for president knowing this little issue would hang over his head.

Does he quit now and have his judgment REALLY called into question or does he fight on and make the argument that this would not be an issue if he ran with a D in front of his name?

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 8:52AM

or folks decide that this is a contrived hit job.

W| 11.8.11 @ 11:47AM

There is a current court case against Bialek in Cook County by a lender who has a default judgment against Bialek. The lender's attorney is David J. Axelrod, not the same David Axelrod with Obama. Are these Axelrods, both from Chicago with same name, related, maybe cousins? Needs investigation.

The last court entry on this case is August/Sept 2011 where Axelrod is trying to discover and seize her assets.
Maybe a coincidence, maybe not.

idalily| 11.8.11 @ 3:29PM

Interesting. You mean, Hey, Ms. Bialek, come forward and tell the world this story and we'll make that lawsuit disappear? Hmm...paging Mr. Breitbart.

irish19| 11.8.11 @ 5:01PM

Interesting. I never would have thought of that angle. Seems consistent with the Chicago Way, though.

moron| 11.8.11 @ 8:26AM

Larry Sinclair story tomorrow?

Teaghan| 11.8.11 @ 8:29AM

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

loulou| 11.8.11 @ 10:47AM

Hasn't he been murdered?

Bill| 11.8.11 @ 8:30AM

Forget the liberal celebrity lawyer Gloria Alred, how about the victim Sharon Bialek, whose graphical illustration of the sexual misconduct by Herman Cain tells itself the severity and the authenticity of the encounter between Mrs. Bialek and Mr. Cain. Since the Politico report, Mr. Cain has been bleeding and his campaign is hurting the GOP effort to oust Obama. Cain is also damaging the image of the GOP and other GOP Primary contenders with his nasty alleged sexual allegations and his vicious responses towards the media. Cain need to tell us the truth. He is politically dead anyway. He needs to end his campaign as soon as possible to save America from Obama. Mr. Cain, you're done.

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 8:53AM

how do you know she is telling the truth? I sure hope you are never called upon for jury duty!

Redatheart| 11.8.11 @ 9:25AM

You're right, Bill. This is a huge distraction and bad mark on any Republican trying to beat Obama. Doesn't matter now who is innocent, who is guilty, who is the 'leaker'. The genie doesn't go back in the bottle. For Cain supporters, you can get as angry over Ms. Bialek as you see fit and call her every name your vast vocab's came muster but this isn't ever going away. Cain should have put this out on the table from Day One just as he did w/ his cancer. If he'd treated a past history of sex scandals--true or not--as he did in talking about beating cancer this would not be front page news. As you try even harder to help him win the nomination, this expose yesterday is just a warm up for what the Dem's have in store for him in the general election.

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 10:37AM

I'm not a Cain supporter. there's a much, much larger principle at stake here: are YOU willing to sacrifice the integrity of the system, fundamental notions of right and wrong....for electoral expediency?

Conserdude| 11.8.11 @ 10:51AM

Her story is just not plausible. If he made a pass at her (which is bad enough), why would he be so aggressive with his hand up her leg? It makes no sense. Cain is definitely a flirt, but this woman has no credibility and someone is backing her to take him out, which she would be susceptible to accept.

Jim| 11.8.11 @ 11:14AM

Most politicians are flirts.

Men and women.

Fact.

If you work in an industry or office world or corporation or any medical setting where there is a 40-60 or 50-50 split women-men, there's going to be "professional work world" flirting going on.

And you can bet your best red suspenders that the best flirters are often the high flying rung climbing ones -- both women and men.

Think all those babes on Fox News just got the job (and keep the job) because of their street savvy core journalism chops?

The weird thing in politics is that if you really are a straight-laced no monkey business (track record established over years), zero flirtation.....you aren't going anywhere.

It is further proof that there is no sanity. All is up side down.

Note the embraces that President Obama gives when off on tour away from D.C. and the White House. And he's good at it his quick hugs, hand to arm squeezes, pecks on cheek. Most women seem very much to want that. Many, it seems. would be sour at him if they did not get that.

scotchieguy| 11.8.11 @ 11:47AM

Redatheart, what if Cain is truly innocent? What if this lady initiated the advances and was rebuked by Cain? What if Rahm and the boys are paying her to destroy Cain? Is this how elections should be run? Do you truly trust the "Chicago Way?" I smell a rat.

Doctor Right| 11.8.11 @ 2:45PM

"Doesn't matter now who is innocent, who is guilty, who is the 'leaker'. "

That's just plain idiotic.

Of course it matters!

I'm not going to sit idly by and watch the left dismantle our candidates with lies, smears, and accusations.

The correct response to this non-scandal should be to use the Left's medicine against them. To wit:

"It's all about sex. We don't care. Move on."

idalily| 11.8.11 @ 3:33PM

Bill, what is Ms. Bialek the VICTIM of, exactly? A pass from a married man? Big whoop. IF it's true. But what if she's LYING? Duke lacrosse players ring any bells?

By your logic, the Dems should win every election from now. All they have to do is just by fabricate stories about the Republican candidate.

What ever happened to the presumption of innocence that exemplifies America? With thinking like yours, Bill, America is toast.

moron| 11.8.11 @ 8:35AM

Very little to do with because he is a black man. Re Obama Larry Sinclair. It is because he is a CONSERVATIVE black man. See Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain. Liberal black men totally different, see Jesse Jackson, Jr., Sharpton.

Purple Lips| 11.8.11 @ 8:40AM

There are 2 points concerning Sharon Bialeck:

1)She hails from Chicago
2)She dated White Sox announcer and 1980 Cy Young winner, Steve Stone

Enuf said

Frank Drackman| 11.8.11 @ 10:24AM

I had an early 70's Steve Stone baseball card...
Big-Ass Jew-Fro...
and if Steve Garvey didn't tap that A** I'm a Yankee Fan...

Frank

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 10:19PM

You know, Stone said he had a choice to have a longer, more mediocre career, or burn himself out and win the Cy Young. He chose to have a moment of excellence...

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 10:21PM

You know, when I went to TCU I had a Jew-Fro for a while---annoying to have, and I got to the point I didn't like to use my pick....

my nurses don't believe me. Got to look the photos up...

Michael Tomlinson| 11.8.11 @ 8:44AM

Whether what Herman Cain allegedly did is or isn't sexual harassment is irrelevant. The alleged behavior is disgusting and for conservatives/Republicans to attempt to defend it, minimize it and demean the women ala James Carville is despicable. Where are the voices of the alternative media who condemned Bill Clinton for his allegedly predatory lusts or who have repeatedly excoriated liberals for their vacuous defense of morally irreparable behavior? To discover the truth about this is not a high tech lynching. If innocent, Cain will be the benefactor of public sympathy that could propel him into the White House.

What is obviously reprehensible is Cain’s willingness to obfuscate, prevaricate and lie in trying to deny what he said he knew was coming and even told to a former aid when he was running for his Senate seat (then he tried to pin the blame on the former aid for leaking it what a wimp). By using Clintonesque tactics to deal with this “bimbo” eruption makes many Cain defender no better than the Democrats they think they’re better than.

It is obvious a lot of conservatives have “grown” since the 1990’s. No wonder supposedly conservative writers, economists and pundits now fawn over the loathsome Bill Clinton they’ve become Clintonistas in everything, but name only.

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 8:56AM

per pervious post to different jurist...twit....you assert Cain is lying but have no way of knowing if Alred's client is lying. yes.....model of probity and fairness you are!!!

tym| 11.8.11 @ 10:07AM

Mr. Tomlinson, chill a bit. We are not at odds, you and me. You make some good points.

But, please. Most people here are not outright defending candidate Herman Cain. No, they are not. What they are defending is sanity. Sound, slow, thoughtful, judgement.

We had YEARS to sort through the real and gossip on Bill Clinton's life. Years.

We've only had three weeks to examine this aspect of a candidate Herman Cain. And he's only had three weeks with a smaller campaign team (and not being a professional lifetime politician a la Romney, Clinton, Obama, or Gingritch) to confront something totally alien in his life.

No one is giving Cain here a 100% free pass.

But what readers are doing is asking:
1. Is it coincidence that the three anonymous and now this fourth do these accusations less than one month after Cain tops the GOP presidential field?
2. Is it coincidence that batteries of USS Missouri-sized liberal guns are now ready for all kinds of broadsides against a black conservative?
3. What male in a powerful role in our society (University presidents, CEOs, top bankers, Army colonels, mayors, top physicians, politicians) has not had bimbos or wannabes approach and want a) interview, b) favors, c) flirt, d) job offer, e) job placement assistance, f) photograph and flirt?
4. Who can recall with perfect Kodak clarity events and gestures, places, times, words spoken, eyes batted when it perhaps took place 12, 14, or 15 years ago?
5. Did Herman Cain rope Restaurant Association staffers into/force them or try to -- to directly aid his flirts with a woman or women? (as Clinton "employed" his aides)
6. If woman #4 is so credible and her story sincere, then, please why Gloria Allred as your counsel?

We had over 10 years of public elected office life where we new Bill Clinton not just skirted but outright violated the law. He ultimately lied directly to the American people in his own press conference and then when under oath. He employed hundreds to hide his misdeeds (and so many went along willingly because they are evil fools).

Please re-read your first two sentences. Alleged behavior is NOT reprehensible. Real, actual, true, factual, vile reprehensible behavior is reprehensible.

That is what has the ire of posters here.

We'll kick a man if he truly deserves it and has lied to us. But nothing is fact here. Not yet. Nothing is proven.

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 10:39AM

very nice! I see you don't spool up as quickly as I do!

Simon Templar| 11.8.11 @ 11:34AM

Tym, that was an excellent, reasoned, amd well thought out comment.

scotchieguy| 11.8.11 @ 11:54AM

"If Cain is innocent??" That is the problem--how does one prove a negative? He is screwed. It is all a witch trial, and the MSM and dems are out there with their proverbial gas cans, and stoking the fire, the truth be damned. Funny how the sh-t hit the fan once his numbers climbed. Just another coincidence. Uh huh.

idalily| 11.8.11 @ 3:35PM

Michael, the what is the difference? We had a dress. You got nothing.

Fast Johnny| 11.8.11 @ 8:44AM

While I am disappointed in the idea that as a married man he made a pass at this woman, the fact of the matter is this, he made a pass at her and when she said no, he stopped and said ok. End of story. If someone considers making a pass at someone else sexual harrassment, then just about everyone some time in their life would be guilty, men and women. This is a common thing that manifests itself as a dynamic between men and women all over the world. Men and women make passes at each other and if the feeling is not mutual that is where it ends, or should end. I guess these days, I should say men and women make passes at men and women, lol.

The only thing that is troubling is that he was married. The questions that are now important: did he learn his lesson (no hanky panky allowed) and would he act like Bubba and use his influence of office to do so again. I am inclined to say that he learned his lesson about poor judgement and that it is a no-no as a married man to do something like that.

DTOM| 11.8.11 @ 9:30AM

The FACT of the matter? If there's a demonstrable fact here, please, identify it and explain how it is demonstrable.

Johnny are ye so Fast that you've never had a woman tell a lie in your presence? The only demonstrable fact here is that this woman has said that Herman Cain did things that he has denied.

If you try to exculpate Herman Cain because 'he stopped and said ok' you are falling for their trick. You are essentially admitting as fact that he did the unpleasant, not-illegal things that this woman claims he did. He has maintained that none of it ever happened. Do not fall for their trick, because the destination of your logical argument is that you are admitting to Mr. Cain's misbehavior as being factual when he maintains it is not factual. Your argument is seriously counter-productive.

scotchieguy| 11.8.11 @ 11:56AM

You have the perfect moniker. Do you know Fast Eddie?

Louis Jenkins| 11.8.11 @ 8:51AM

Cain is rattled, not dead. The first three women have failed to come forth with anything other than accusations, and the last woman has made an attempt to discredit Cain. Were's the fifth and the sixth? Soon he will rival Clinton's sexual appetite. She said no and Cain let the whole thing drop. (No pun intended.) This was not sexual harrassment, and it did not end up as an assault. Nothing has been proven in court, therefore, on with the show. Cain, get on with it.

Mimi| 11.8.11 @ 10:00AM

Louis....You trust Gloria on this ? Knowing her history of being a Dem " Get our guy elected " at any cost business expertise, with great skill? Lots to learn here....This gal Sharon needs some vetting. Politico thinks their in HEAVEN now....Lets just wait on that!

loulou| 11.8.11 @ 10:50AM

Politico is in heaven and so is Karl Rove and the usual GOP elite suspects.
Romney thinks he's home free.

I'm tired of this parade of women. The shock value is gone. I'm outraged--not at Cain but at those who are trying to lynch him.

albert constantine jr.| 11.8.11 @ 8:53AM

Absent from any discussion comparing the known and/ or legal facts of the Clinton cases and the allegations involving Cain is that the Paula Jones case involved Clinton’s use of his security contingent as his procurers. Unless the National Restaurant Association has an armed paramilitary force with the power and equipment to detain and use deadly force that I’m not aware of, even if the Bialek allegations as put forth were all true, it would pale in comparison. Paula Jones, a state employee, was solicited and brought to the Governor’s suite by armed state troopers, where the Governor exposed himself and directed the state employee to perform oral sex upon him. While as the president of the National Restaurant Association, I’m sure Herman Cain exercised considerable power and influence, I don’t think I’ve heard that he signed any death warrants or had men executed, as Clinton did as Governor of Arkansas. Looking at all that has been put forth about Cain in the worse light and accepting that it is true would still make him a piker compared to Clinton, yet he receives disproportionate attention. It is Jeffrey Lord’s thesis that this attention is because Mr. Cain is black. I would say it is because Mr. Cain is a black conservative republican.

RND| 11.8.11 @ 9:31AM

Thank you, Mr. Constantine. Finallly a sane voice/writer here. Yes, there is no comparison.

Governor William Jefferson Clinton loved to tell and brag to Arkansas State Policement assigned to duties around him about his astro turfed pickup truck "back in the day." He would actually elbow them and say, "Now, you boys know what that was for, don't ya!?" I believe he even promised some "some action too" if they aided his "very important gubernatorial 'meetings.'

If these were not imprisonable offenses in Arkansas and the USA, well, then nothing is.

It is a shame that no courageous law enforcement officials within Arkansas during Clinton's governorship, thereafter, during the presidential race, or even since have stepped forward to "come clean." Yes, it would take some guts, a real plan, savvy thinking, and strong legal/lawyer assistance.

But it should have been done. I also see no comparison to Cain.

Old Soldier| 11.8.11 @ 9:05AM

A woman invites him to meet her at the hotel bar she is staying at. I take that as a signal. We drink and dine - more signals? She's surprised he made a pass? Seriously? This is it?

Mike| 11.8.11 @ 9:10AM

Typical AmSpec obfuscation and hypocrisy.

This can't be harassment because of a judge's ruling in the Clinton/Jones case. Of course AmSpec vehemently disagreed with the ruling an castigated Clinton for harassment. But now, Cain gets a pass.

Allred is not the issue. Cain's behavior is the issue. But anything to distract from the real issue. Right, Lord?

DTOM| 11.8.11 @ 9:33AM

Uh, Mike,

That should be "alleged behavior."

Or do you still believe Anita Hill?

You know who she is, right?

Mike| 11.8.11 @ 10:12AM

I know who Anita is and I believe I believe her. My question is why you don't.

By the way, DTOM. The double standard issue is simply another ploy to distract.

I grant your point about "alleged behavior."

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 10:42AM

Yawn. per a previous post...hope you never serve jury duty!

loulou| 11.8.11 @ 10:52AM

You believe what exactly?? That the bimbo Hill found a hair on her Coke can?

tonypal| 11.8.11 @ 11:37AM

I didn't believe Anita Hill then and don't believe her now. Before he decided to cast his lot with George Soros and the left, David Brock wrote what was probably the most devastating book on the subject. It was meticulously footnoted and exposed Ms. Hill for the liar she was and still is to this day.

So why do you believe Mr. Cain is guilty? It can't be because he's a conservative republican, because we know you would never be so partisan. So what is it then?

Jack London| 11.8.11 @ 11:54AM

You truly are even more stupid than almost anyone here. For goodness sake get yourself even a little education – it may stop you looking so stupid again.

'The author of a best-selling book that attacked the credibility of Anita F. Hill has disavowed its premise, and now says that he lied in print to protect the reputation of Justice Clarence Thomas.'

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06.....homas.html

carnot| 11.8.11 @ 12:09PM

hmmmm...well this does create a dilemma now...does it not? how do you know when a self avowed liar is telling the truth?

Jack London| 11.8.11 @ 12:45PM

Now you're being stupid – if you knew anything about this case you'd know that another witness, Kaye Savage, confirmed she was blackmailed by Brock to withdraw what she'd seen. Brock's book was also comprehensively demolished in the New Yorker. It was a pack of lies and at least Brock became man enough to admit he was a right-wing stooge (by the way - what does being a right wing stooge feel like? I'm sure you can say).

Truth to Power| 11.8.11 @ 7:25PM

Jackie, you are a phony. We are not letting you off your hypocritical hook. Get together with your phony friends and wring your hands.

RND| 11.8.11 @ 9:41AM

By taking this client and going big media, Allred is a big part of the issue. I am quite certain that respectable attorneys would not come within 1,000 miles of representing Bialek.

Gloria "Facelifts" Allred has already a well-established track record of borderline ethical legal behavior when it comes to advocacy for liberal and Democratic Party efforts.

Allred is a hired gun. She's on the take. Got it?

Old Soldier| 11.8.11 @ 10:03AM

It can't be harassment because she didn't work in Cain's company and he wasn't at work.

According to your logic, anytime a man makes a pass at a woman, it's harassment.

Nick| 11.8.11 @ 3:03PM

Sorry, but, bleeding heart liberals can't comment on this subject, Mike.
Because you guys defended the perverted rapist, Bubba Clinton, for over eight years.

Nobody cares what you moral degenerates have to say.

tym| 11.8.11 @ 9:20AM

What I pointed out to a poster here in the ASO Blogs named "Proud Mormon:" (in another blog -- same subject)

So, Proud Mormon, this is really then all about ...Mormonism? Mormons are better? Better than, well, most? Assuredly better than most? No, truly superior compared to "others"?

C'mon. Who are you fooling?

Every one of these candidates has had some kind of daliance or the other. Including Mitt Romney. For some women, maybe Huntsman, Santorum, or Johnson is a really good looking guy.

(Or -- for all of them -- think 10 - 12 years ago. They were all better looking, more 'youthful' then)

We all know the Power Magnet effect. A man can be only moderately handsome and some/certain women are not averse to a flirt and use of some banter and charms.

And sometimes these start harmlessly and go a little too far. No, not necessarily a one night stand or a torrid 6 month affair, but they go well beyond the bounds of professional decorum.

And Mitt's done it, too. G-u-a-r-a-n-t-e-e-d.

Frankly he's too handsome with too good a voice. He has Hollywood looks. So there are some similiar/like-type situations in his past.

It is inevitable when you have someone who over decades has demonstrated a very successful life: A good student in university, and good looking, hard charging up-and-comer in those first jobs after academics, and one who earns real good money through businesses and stays at the top in political maneuverings.

It is inevitable. Just as sure as your eyes reading this post right this moment.

The "Flirt Moment(s)" will happen. Sadly. However, how the candidate or politician reacts and matures over time/years in these (inevitable) situations is the better judge of potential worthiness to hold public office and public trust.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.8.11 @ 9:24AM

Yep. Same ole shat, differnt flies. When you have a conservative black man, & you're a lib, you have to be careful how you go after him so that you don't lose your support amongst blacks in general. Therefore, what's the play you draw up for this? Ah, the ole "perv" card. I feel like I'm having pubic hair garnished Coke at Long Dong Silver's all over again.

Until I see a baby batter glazed dress, or hear some corroborating witnesses, this whole thing is pure, unadulterated bullshit. And hopefully Cain puts the nail in the coffin of this issue today at his press conference.

"Show me the man and I'll find you the crime.”...Lavrenti Beria

George S| 11.8.11 @ 9:52AM

Herman Cain will get much more than 5 percent of the black vote. Herman Cain is immune to Obama's most effective weapon: the race card. That's all you need to know as to what is going on. The legal thresholds, comparison to other cases, and evidentiary standards are moot points to a media protecting Obama.

Why now, why not later? Because it is imperative for Obama to get to Cain prior to any votes being cast. The media will not have the luxury of diverting attention during a primary or election cycle. Plus, there is the potential for backlash as people will correctly assume smear in progress. Doubly so during the general election.

The timing of the accusations, the secretive nature of the legal proceedings, an accuser without evidence leave a wide open canvas for the media to paint any picture they want -- all without the distraction of covering a campaign in progress.

Will Cain get out from this? Yes. Bill Clinton made it acceptable.

KML| 11.8.11 @ 10:01AM

More importantly, Herman Cain is a Republican.

Bill| 11.8.11 @ 10:16AM

For Cain-lovers, here are some facts: Cain's 9-9-9 plan is flawed. Under his plan, 84% of Americans will be forced to pay taxes and it will add a 9% tax to the current states' sales tax. For example, Maryland has a 6% state sales tax and with Cain's plan, Marylanders will pay 15% state sales tax (adding 9% to he existing 6% sales taxes). For many states. it will go up as high as 18%. Cain has no plan to reduce the Federal spending and deficit. He tag-tam with Obama in unionizing. He refused to side with the people of South Carolina in the matter of the Boeing plant and the NLRB lawsuit against Boeing. He is pro-choice and for gun-control. The Presidential race is NOT a celebrity contest; it's for the people of America who wants to change the course of America for better. Cain seems to be appear as a superman who will solve all the problems with his unsustainable 9-9-9 plan. In foreign policy, Cain did not knew that China already acquired Nuclear weapon decades ago. Cain is NO conservative, he is not even smart enough to be a RINO. With the sexual allegations, Cain is damaging the GOP efforts to topple Obama. Please do not vote/help Herman Cain. Cain is another Ross Perot who will sabotage the conservative movement. Cain need to end his campaign. Enough is enough.

1ConservativeUSA| 11.8.11 @ 10:48AM

Based on your astute analysis, Obama, having never presented a real economic growth plan during his candidacy, or during his presidency, should not have been elected and should step down immediately.

1ConservativeUSA| 11.8.11 @ 10:45AM

I'm going to save the leftist whore Gloria Allred and the evil leftist media some time and trouble here.

I spoke with Herman Cain and he set the record straight.

He did admit to reaching up Bialek's skirt, but only because he thought there was a Bill Clinton cigar up there.

When she asked him to stop, he stopped.

conservative bob| 11.8.11 @ 11:08AM

Jeff,
I suggest you stick with your earlier argument. This one is a looser because if what the woman alleges is true, then while it may not meet a legal standard it will end his campaign.
It must be denied on the facts, period. If there is any equivocation then it validates all of the others and he is done.
I do not believe the woman, in large measure because Allred is a hatchet for the DNC.
By the way the question of who is behind this as now been answered by the appearance of Allred.
We are now in the realm of he said she said and unless Cain is able to launch as very convincing denial and robust self defense. I think he is done.

As I said I do not believe any of it but in terms of a campaign to take him out, I suspect they are close to achieving their goal.
I suggest the better target here is the DNC hack Allred. She is a long time player in the politics of personal destruction. She should have the opportunity to be on the other end of the lance. Discredit her as a party tool and you discredit the accuser by association, Allred is an unsympathetic individual that can be attacked with impunity.
Whether innocent or guilty we have all witnessed the very public lynching of a black man who dared to leave the plantation, and proves as you stated in an earlier post and as Ms. Allred appearance confirms the rope is in the hand of the progressive Democrat left.

Kingofthenet| 11.8.11 @ 11:26AM

Jeffery is right this isn't sexual harassment, it's sexual assault. If I begin to rape a women and stop when she asked me too, does that mean I didn't rape her?

Sexual harassment is a form of sex discrimination.The legal definition of sexual harassment is “unwelcome verbal, visual, or physical conduct of a sexual nature that is severe or pervasive and affects working conditions or creates a hostile work environment.”

The definition is EITHER severe are pervasive , BOTH are not needed, putting hands on another is assault, no question (Try it with a Cop if you don't believe me) and if it's of a sexual nature, well there you have it, there it is....

Drunken Sailor| 11.8.11 @ 11:58AM

A hand on her leg reaching for her groin does not constitute the legal definition of rape. And yes, if she says stop and you stop that does mean you did not rape her.

Historically, rape was defined as unlawful sexual intercourse with a woman against her will. The essential elements of the crime were sexual penetration, force, and lack of consent

Build another strawman while your at it or ask your buddy Bill the definition of "is"

DRed| 11.8.11 @ 12:36PM

Grabbing a woman by the head and pulling her towards your crotch is battery, not assault.

Nick| 11.8.11 @ 3:05PM

Sorry, but, bleeding heart liberals can't comment on this subject, Kook.
Because you guys defended the perverted rapist, Bubba Clinton, for over eight years.

Nobody cares what you moral degenerates have to say.

Luis La Paz| 11.8.11 @ 11:35AM

Tonight does not really count because it is Election Night in D.C. So they'll be far more parties. Far more "celebrating" and opportunities....

But on any given night....

Has no one here been to Georgetown (within Washington D.C.) on any given weekday night? The very actions that transpire from 8 in the evening until 1 or 2 p.m. some nights in the bars and "see to be seen" places and parties....

Women making advances on men that have nothing to do with sincere, chaste romantic interest. Men openly receiving such advances or intiating same. Many married and "geographical bachelors or bachelorettes."

Some in on the action are in civilian attire but their day jobs require military or law enforcement uniforms. Many work on the Hill. Some are top appointees. Lots are top foreign folk here at embassies or "think tanks." A few are the actual elected officials themselves -- both male & female.

There are bar stools aplenty with women ready to "just see where this might go" if the right looking (looks the part, smells the part, is the part) male comes by.

It does not make these actions right. No way. It is childish and imature in the extreme. Too often it is even worse. And it is ugly when you see the long-time, experienced veteran hook-ups well in their late 30's, 40's and early 50's. Do some men still try this in their 60's? Sure. Turns out he's a judge sitting on a bench somewhere or a top faculty professor, semiar leader, and media go-to-guy every 2-3 months.

No matter what it is usually completely unprofessional. (using office, title, position, knowledge/secrets! to gain points with the babes or the hunks)

If you think your candidate in this presidential run for 2012 -- or even your local candidate for state legislature, state attorney general, or a county judgeship -- has never been party to this flirtation scene or actively engaged in a measure of this, you are naive beyond belief.

Next time your state has its party convention, go. Attend. And note how many "parties" occur on the evenings surrounding the formal agenda gatherings. Go to the parties.

Just stand back and watch.

Who Knows?| 11.8.11 @ 11:45AM

Wait a minute!

Since when is it NOT against the law for a man to “stick his hand under a woman’s skirt”?

There’s no doubt, IMHO, that Clinton’s unzipping his trou and exposing his erection, even though in private, and asking Paula Jones to kiss it, is also way beyond acceptable behavior---it should be illegal!

Any fans of David Kahane, who randomly writes some witty stuff at nationalreview.com? Today, he thrilled me with his “Cold Civil War” screed about how the amoral left has been winning the culture wars---read it, and weep.

How you going to keep them down on the farm, when they’ve been to gay Paree?

The cat’s out of the bag, in the form of Slick Willy’s penis!

Katie, bar the door!

In any case, IMHO, from a transcendental view, it looks like we’re going through even MORE polarization, because the hard right and left extremists have been presented with ANOTHER case---Cain’s alleged sexual “misconduct”---that is about as Manichean as it gets: yes OR no?

About double standards---

The book, “Laws of Form”, by G. Spencer Brown, 1969, lays bare the bones of the play of it all.

“Definition---Distinction is perfect continence.

Axiom 1. The Law of calling

The value of a call made again is the value of the call.

That is to say, if a name is called and then called again, the value indicated by the two calls taken together is the value indicated by one of them.

That is to say, for any name, to recall is to call.

Axiom 2. The law of crossing

The value of a crossing made again is not the value of the crossing.

That is to say, if it is intended to cross a boundary and then it is intended to cross it again, the value indicated by the two intentions taken together is the value indicated by none of them.

That is to say, for any boundary, to recross is not to cross.”
Pages 1-2

There you have it---boundaries!

Oh, how many of THEM have been crossed---and RE-CROSSED!

It’s going to take dumbed down Americans a long time to come to terms with Bill Clinton, and now, Herman Cain!

MOS was 71331| 11.8.11 @ 12:23PM

I'm getting confused here. When I was dating in my bachelor days, I never considered putting my hand up my date's skirt as an initial action. There was always a progression of activities giving my date repeated opportunities to encourage me to go further or to reject additional contact.

My first action was usually to take my date's hand while watching a movie or leaving a restaurant. If my date seemed to consider hand holding with me unpleasant, I would take no further actions. (And I usually would request no further dates.)

Has dating changed so much in the last fifty years, that putting a hand up a girl's skirt now occurs five minutes into the first date?

RAH| 11.8.11 @ 12:30PM

I think the author misses only one point...Herman Cain is a CONSERVATIVE black man. Otherwise any discussion of sexual misbehavior wouldn't exist.

Mike Hawk| 11.8.11 @ 12:31PM

It's beginning to sound, if the information about this ditz is correct, like this latest accuser is just another ho' looking to cash in on a story. True or not.

RAH| 11.8.11 @ 12:31PM

I think the author misses one important point: Herman Cain is a CONSERVATIVE black man.

That's why the NAACP, Sharpton, Jackson and the rest of the race-baiters on the left are silent.

Kingofthenet| 11.8.11 @ 12:53PM

I think this women had a reputation as being 'Easy', unless a guy is Drunk or Serial offender he doesn't try this unless he feels he has a good shot of it working.You can also take more liberties with someone who doesn't work for you as it won't contaminate the 'work' space, all she could do was go to the Cops and considering it didn't go far and she wasn't hurt it would be hard to prove.

Simon Templar| 11.8.11 @ 4:11PM

Wait a damn minute, all week you shot your typical liberal mouth off and rolled and trolled around here with he is guilty and you made offensive sexual remarks and offensive sexual jokes about this and now you are back tracking?

loulou| 11.8.11 @ 1:04PM

Are we going to be treated to a layout in "Hustler"?

JimH| 11.8.11 @ 1:14PM

Maybe I’m naive, but it’s hard to think of a man in Cain’s position sticking his hand up a woman’s skirt uninvited and risk getting a knee in the nards. If it is true, fourteen years have not helped the accuser or Cain had his glasses off at the time.

Nina| 11.8.11 @ 2:04PM

First, I don't believe it. Took too long to come out.
Second, big deal! The bra burning women of Women's Rights movement wanted to be one of the guys, then suck it up!
Third, others and we all know who, have done a lot worse! and still got away with it! A SENATOR guilty of manslaughter, hello? He sat in the Senate for years after running away from a drowning woman! That's okay? However, if there was a settlement, then it's been taken care of. (doesn't settlement mean it's been settled?)
I just find it suspicious that this/these or whoever are starting to come out of the woodwork now for the 15 min of fame. "I took down Cain!" with Gloria Alred as your attorney?

Dave| 11.8.11 @ 2:07PM

Ok, so basically;

- Rumor starts 3 months ago
- Cain gains ground
- More rumors surface
- Cain doing well
- "Sources say" churning, but no one can name the source
- Cain still doing well
- Suddenly, after having 3 months to make up a bunch of drivel, there's this woman

Yeah. Totally believable.

LOL

Simon Templar| 11.8.11 @ 4:05PM

Dave, add to that..

Well yeah, I was there at the TEA convention two months ago and was seen hugging the man and saying hello to this beast predator that I later accuse of sexual assault. When I was saying hello and embracing him, I of course, asked him if he remembered me and asked him about the sexual assault. Wha? What's the matter with my story?

Hey, that's good enough for me. Makes perfect sense. I am with shipley130, clear as a bell and just as empty like my head, except for the clanger.

shipley130| 11.8.11 @ 2:41PM

Who gives a flying **** if it was 14 years ago or 14 days ago. Cain is a predator. That's quite clear to me. He absolutely is not the appropriate person to win the Republican nomination.

Melivn| 11.8.11 @ 2:57PM

And your basing your decision on innuendo? You probably said the Duke La-Cross players were guilty to.

MOS was 71331| 11.8.11 @ 6:29PM

Obviously Shipley's basing his conclusion on nothing.

Conserdude| 11.8.11 @ 3:04PM

Watch for Ms. Bialek to shed her clothing for some porn publication before too long now that she can command a hefty price during her 15 minutes of fame. She has many past-due bills to pay.
None of this is to say that there isn't something amiss with Herman Cain to have such a bevy of accusations from women for misbehavior of some kind. I'm not ready to throw him to the wolves, but the deeper problem with him is that his misstatements and lack of preparedness are swiftly catching up. Romney may end up the nominee by default.

Melvin| 11.8.11 @ 3:10PM

"Romney: Cain allegations 'particularly disturbing'" Ya got to luv Mr. flipflop just sits back and thinks that the nomination is going to be handed to him on a silver platter.
Here a little tip. A person who isn't authorized to speak to the media, notified me that Mitt Romney when he was in Junior High was caught looking in National Geographic.....The Girls of Tahiti. This is a serious, serious allegation that must be looked into. A man of his devout faith looking at half naked South Pacific Island Women is just shocking, shocking I'll tell ya.
Just having this information brought before me was extremely traumatizing. This just might be what brings Mitt's candidacy down.

Simon Templar| 11.8.11 @ 3:57PM

Melvin, it matters not whether he looked or did not look at them bare breast...he is unfit because he did not disclose this the day that he announced running and have a ready explanation. Now, how can we elect someone like that?!

Of course, look at how he did not remember the details of this event that occurred over 4o years ago when he was 10 years old. What's up with that?

Just what were the size of those breast? How long did he actually stare at them. We have a right to know! Guilty, I say guilty!

You know the more I dink about it, this is sexual harassment and exploitation of these Tahiti Wymon. How dare he?

Simon Templar| 11.8.11 @ 3:47PM

Ok, folks here is the latest brought to you by some real reporters over at Newsmax,

New questions are being raised about the motivation and background of Sharon Bialek following her accusation on Monday that Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain groped her 14 years ago.

One source who knows Bialek told New York Post columnist Andrea Peyser that the 50-year-old bleached-blonde single mother is a “complete gold-digger.”

Reports have also surfaced that Bialek has not held a job for more than two years and has filed for bankruptcy twice.

Peyser writes on Tuesday: “Sharon Bialek is 50, out of work, and according to one who knows her, she’s a smooth operator living way above her means.
“Enter Herman Cain.”

Describing Bialek’s appearance at a Monday press conference where she alleged that Cain acted in a “sexually inappropriate” manner when she consulted with him about a job, Peyser said she “recounted with a broad grin the night back in 1997 when she flirted like a tart with the ‘inspirational’ Mr. Cain.”

Bialek claims that after she and Cain had dinner at an Italian restaurant in Washington, D.C., he drove her to the offices of the National Restaurant Association, which he headed, and “which, as far as I know, were closed for the night,” Peyser observes.

Cain then groped her in the car, Bialek claims, and when she resisted, he said, “You want a job, right?”

Peyser weighs in: “Now, I love a good romantic farce as much as the next bored housewife. But the question remains: Why sit on this seeming sexual assault for 14 years?”

Peyser reports that “someone who knows Bialek” told the columnist: “She has a very infectious personality. It’s easy to see how she won [Cain] over. But the reality of her situation is — she’s a complete gold-digger. It’s all about the money.”

The friend added: “Most of her jobs ended in termination. It’s always the employer’s fault, not hers. This is a lady who lives off the system. She is hell-bent on finding a way of never having to work and living the lifestyle she wants to live, a very affluent lifestyle. In my next life, I want to come back as her.”

Bialek is now a suburban homemaker who lives in a large five-bedroom house in the Chicago area with her fiancé Mark Harwood, who has been dating her for several years after they met online, The Daily Mail reported.

According to the newspaper, Harwood said he did not hear about Bialek’s allegations about Cain until Friday. Bialek’s father said he did not know about his daughter’s allegation until Monday.

Bialek filed for personal bankruptcy in 1991, according to Chicago station WLS.

Between 1993 and 1996, she worked for four different companies in promotion and marketing positions. She was hired by the National Restaurant Association Education Fund in 1996 but was fired a year later.

In 1999, her son Nicholas was born, and a paternity lawsuit was filed by the father, a media executive, the station reported.

In 2001, Bialek filed for bankruptcy again, claiming $5,700 in assets and more than $36,000 in liabilities, the Chicago Tribune disclosed. Among her creditors were a management firm seeking back rent, four credit card companies, and a lawyer owed legal fees.

The Tribune also reported that Bialek accused a former boyfriend of harassing her for money he had loaned her.

In 2009, the IRS filed a tax lien against Bialek for nearly $5,200. In August, the Illinois Department of Revenue claimed Bialek owed the state more than $4,300 relating to income taxes from 2004, county records reveal.

Peyser is not the only media figure raising questions about Bialek’s story.

Fox News anchor Martha McCallum on Tuesday asked Bialek why she would take a train all the way from Chicago to Washington to meet with Cain alone, as she claims, and then have drinks with him. Bialek responded that she suggested coffee and it was Cain who suggested drinks.

The Cain campaign in a statement Monday night charged Bialek with making “false accusations” at the behest of Cain’s political opponents and says she has a “long history of severe financial difficulties.” The statement also disparaged Bialek’s attorney, Gloria Allred.

“The questions the media should be asking are who’s paying Gloria Allred’s fee, how did Ms. Bialek get introduced to Ms. Allred, and was she paid to come forward with these false accusations or was she promised employment?” the statement read in part.

Speaking of Cain’s “political opponents,” Fox News noted on Tuesday that Bialek lived for a time in the same building on Chicago’s Northlake Shore Drive as David Axelrod, who was Barack Obama’s chief strategist during his 2008 presidential campaign and is expected to play role in his 2012 re-election bid.

Bialek has said she encountered Cain again a month ago at a Chicago-area convention and “asked him if he remembered me.”

WIND radio co-host Amy Jacobson said she witnessed the encounter and told Michael Sneed of the Chicago Sun-Times:

“It all began when I took a convention break and joined my pals at the hotel bar. Sharon was drinking mimosas with them. She said she was a Republican, a Tea Party member, had once dated [White Sox sport announcer Steve Stone] and had worked at WGN radio.

“Sharon also said she was anxious to meet Cain again and had once gone to an after party with him and her boyfriend years ago. But she never mentioned he had sexually harassed her.”

According to Sneed, when Bialek met Cain at the convention “they hugged each other backstage in a full embrace like old friends. She grabbed his arm and whispered in his left ear. She kept talking as he bent to listen, and he kept saying, ‘Uh huh. Uh huh.’”

Said Jacobson: “It looked sort of flirtatious.”

She added that on Monday, “I turned on the TV to find out who was Cain’s accuser, and I almost fell over when I saw it was Sharon Bialek accusing Cain of groping her. I was shocked.”

If you still can not see this whole thing as a sham and a new level of filty dirty Democratic politics, then perhaps we deserve Obama and the apparently inevitable decline coming.

no name| 11.8.11 @ 3:51PM

By her looks, I will say she's past prime by enough years that she is aware of that fact. The make up more than over compensates for the evidently hard life, and that is a clue. I heard her say she 'used ' to be in some type of talk show, so I would presume her to be un or under employed at this point in time. Sooo whats a girl to do? Ohh sure she don't expect any monetary gain. LIAR! Here is the perfect chance to cash in. She knows exactly how to word everything, she had 14 years to perfect the lines and with a man hating slobering at the mouth femenist (ha ha) ambulance chasing slickster for an attorney she will make several apperances on the tv circuit, and I suspect a book is probably already written and will be on the book store shelves next month. There should be laws protecting men from women like that. That after a period of 7 years they would be liable to come forward with a story like that w/o substainable proof. The women are protected by a rush to arrest and conviction and punishment if the crime is reported in a timely fashion. Cain is being slimed. It ain't right. They ain't going to get away with it!

Oldefarte| 11.8.11 @ 4:08PM

First of all, these type situations are PERSONAL and not the business of anyone other than those involved [unless ceiminal in nature]. A president etc can become subject to persuasion/influence that is contrary to the nation's interests by such activity, and therein lies the problem. What if a foreign enemy uses such sexual weakness to gain access and to attempt harm of a president? In this current situation, it's obvious of who/what this woman truly is/was, and the only question is THE PRICE SHE CHARGES [and that includes her chosen LAWYER of note also]!!!!!!!!!

Simon Templar| 11.8.11 @ 4:24PM

She is also very capable of lying and has no credibility. You can not have it both ways. It is illogical. Apparently, she can be a slut, hooker, and opportunist and he is still guilty or she can be just a good girl looking for help with a boyfreind making allegations with no proof and he is still guilty. She can be contradicting her testimony, behaving in ways not consistent with her story and she still has credibility and he is guilty.

We are not electing the next pope or voting on cannonization of a saint. Nor should we be damning a man and expecting him to prove his innocents to every frivolous, ridiculous, and unsubstantiated charge and allegation. Enough is enough.

Oldefarte| 11.8.11 @ 5:18PM

Amen to that. Wait, she travels to Chicago to the city where NRA HQ's are located [and her boyfriend pays for her hotel room?] and she seeks out his employment assistance????? Give me a break, please. It's a shame she and two of her friends wasn't on one side of a street, with the candidate on the other dressed in a Santa Claus outfit so that he could yell out HO, HO, HO!!!!!

MOS was 71331| 11.8.11 @ 6:39PM

Unless the accusations include precise times and locations, it's impossible to prove innocence. Proving guilt is the responsibility of the accuser(s).

Buck Ofama| 11.8.11 @ 4:25PM

I didn't read this article, nor will I read others about this silly excuse for a topic. This is all a lot of bullshit cooked up by the terrified c0cksucker in the white house.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.8.11 @ 6:34PM

Mal_Content asked me:

"You keep telling me that we can't draw down our foreign presence, but how do we afford keeping it intact? Any ideas?"

Sure. Don't end up like Britain, whose welfare state got so big they had to scrap Ark Royal & her Harrier squadrons before the replacement for her was even started. Now its doubtful if it'll ever even get done. The Chief of the Admiralty said, at the outset of the ill advised fracas in Libya, that without Ark Royal, her Harriers & her logistical capablility, they only had 3 months of land based operational effectiveness. Think they could re- take the Falklands (who's citizens STILL desire to remain under the Crown) again without Ark Royal's air wing?

Close the D of Ed, the EPA, the IRS, trim the size of the welfare state, modernize & allow for the option of privatization of Social Insolvency (I'm 32 & probably not as old as most here, but hey, I still paid in too. Involuntarily). The Pentagon is only 20% of the budget.

I'm just of the mind that in the face of a resurgent Russia, flush with petrobux, & China, who also seeks to foil our every foriegn policy movement at every turn & is also in the process of building a blue water navy & a stealth capable jet, we need to maintain many posts. Japan, as a staging point for when Kim Jong Elvis finally goes apeshit from syphilus & invades the ROK. Or as a staging point for a support of the repelling of a Chinese invasion of Taiwain. Or the Spratlay Islands. West Pac is CRUCIAL because its the AO in which most of the goods we rely on travels through.

Same with the Suez & the Straights of Hormuz. The 5th Fleet, & all of its components are the garuntors of the openess of those sea lanes through which so much of our oil travels. Now, we can remedy this problem by allowing drilling again in the Gulf, opening up the Bakken range from the grasp of Obama's EPA & Interior Dept, & allowing drilling in ANWAR, along with resuming the peak production of Prudhoe Bay. Allow for the Canadian/US pipeline to be built. Expolit the Marcellus shale deposits here in PA.

Not only would this eliminate that area as such a global choke point, since we would become another huge energy EXPORTER as well as consumer of our own resources, but it would also cut down on the petrobux that the schmucks at OPEC use to fund global jihad. Iran is the main threat right now, but its also the Saudis who export most of the Wahabbist crap found in terrorist day camps. Both parties have gotten in bed with them. That's for sure. But drilling our own would make them irrellevant. Then they & the Iranians really WOULD kill each other. As it stands now, the Saudis hate the Iranians so bad, & are so scared of them nuking up, that they've already given the IAF the tacit permission for flyover to take those nuke sites out.

Europe is, as I said before, crucial in the face of a resurgent Russia, intent on re-creating her old commie empire & headed by a former KGB spook. With the ongoing debt crisies, what better time for certain levers to be pulled? The Germans are becoming more nationalistic as they have to keep bailing the other EU nations out of the fire. We saw what happend TWICE in the last century when they got pissed. The only thing, in MY humble opinion, that would solve THAT whole debacle is a dissolution of the EU.

There are just a few ways we can cut spending & maintain our presence in a world that never stays static. That is the lesson of history. And while you never wanna fight the LAST war, you always use history as a good precursor to how you'll have to evolve to fight the NEXT one.

"War is a continuation of politics by other means."...Von Clausewitz

Studs Dupa| 11.8.11 @ 7:08PM

Hi,

Dr. Ron Paul had hundreds (if not thousands) of women who had undressed before him and spread their legs while he was on the job. So far, no complaints were levied against him.

Love,

Studs

RON PAUL 2012

Bob Grant| 11.8.11 @ 8:02PM

He must be a sedation dentist.

Studs Dupa| 11.9.11 @ 6:25PM

Hi Bob,

I guess what you are saying is that the smiling women who had left Dr. Paul's office had pleasant dreams about Ron Paul, because it felt so real.

Love,

Studs

RON PAUL 2012

Caroline| 11.8.11 @ 8:18PM

Woman Who Accused Herman Cain of Sexual Harassment Now Works For . . . Barack Obama
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/1.....ack-obama/

Margie| 11.8.11 @ 8:18PM

I am so thankful that God is just.
He will send all liars to Hell for eternity.

Nick| 11.9.11 @ 6:39PM

Margie,

You had better hope that doesn't include those who repeatedly tell falsehoods about other's religion.
God Bless!

Skippy| 11.8.11 @ 8:38PM

Ring ring
"Bialystock and Blume...Bialystock and Blume".

albert constantine jr.| 11.8.11 @ 9:20PM

In a Swedish accent, Inge...

longer memory| 11.8.11 @ 9:41PM

Bill Clinton's greatest compliment to Gennifer Flowers: "Man, I mean that girl could suck a tennis ball through a garden hose." And Flowers thought it was true love.

somnolence| 11.8.11 @ 9:46PM

I'm just now coming forth with this information. I was driving through Cicero sometime in 2004, mid-June, and I saw Barack Obama putting the make on Larry Sinclair. I damn near ran into a street lamp. That recollection has just resurfaced in my memory the last couple of days. I thought that this might be the appropriate format to bring it up.

Oldefarte| 11.9.11 @ 4:34PM

Are you sure it wasn't Bill Ayers instead that was being made upon???????

Michael Tomlinson| 11.8.11 @ 10:51PM

Cain's reprehensible action is the way he has handled this issue that he now admits he knew was coming. I know Cain's supporters think his multiple changes on positions are inspired and sophisticated politics (while pillorying his friend Mitt Romney for the same political tactics), but the fact remains Herman Cain has shown a trend to play fast and loose with the truth not only on this issue, but issues important to conservatives less impressed with affability, canned conservative rhetoric or the cult of personality.

Had Cain been forthright and not tried to hide behind denials, the race card and blatantly blaming innocent parties for the leak he would have been in better shape and his defenders would have been reasonable. Even those like myself who oppose his nomination based on his lack of comprehension of the issues (his “debate” with Newt was a revelation of his total lack of knowledge on basic political problems facing the nation) would find it easier to defend him.

If these women are lying I believe the truth will come out as it did with the predatory and disgusting Bill Clinton. That society gave him a pass for his sometimes violent sexual predations is a sad commentary of our society, but thankfully true conservatives have never wavered in their condemnation not only of his abysmal policies, but his degenerate lifestyle.

The problem isn’t did Herman Cain do these alleged acts of sexual misbehavior, but his inability to be forthright and then stick by what he says without backtracking and same something to get himself out of hot water. We don’t need a conservative version of Obama in the White House even if he’s a nice guy.

ole meanie| 11.9.11 @ 7:55AM

Very well said. I would respectfully add a caveat about "even if he is a nice guy".

It is pretty hard to play the political game if you can't project the image of a nice guy. We don't know if Cain is a nice guy. All we know is that he seems like a nice guy. If these allegations are true, he is no nice guy.

POST American| 11.8.11 @ 10:56PM

--------------------BOTTOM LINE----------------------

------------EXTREME '90's Show' FAKE OP---------
-------------------------ALERT!---------------------------

Just as we had Clinton's endless Lewinsky
scandal, even as the reality of Clinton's
bloodlink to the Rockefeller's remained
unmentioned ----likewise with CAIN'S
rank involvement with the central source
of Globalist world poison ---the 'FED'.

longer memory| 11.9.11 @ 3:51AM

IDALILLY - -"I find Perry a bit too slick - - like a used car salesman".When you say slick, you can't be referring to his performance, thus far. What is it, then? The cufflinks? The 1060s haircut ? The cut of his suits? If you are that superficial, perhaps we can level the playing field by putting them all in Speed-O swimsuits - no podiums to stand behind. Wet hair, right out of the shower. Even the quaint Ms. Bachmann must leave her hair extensions in her makeup bag and remove those drug store false fingernails if it takes a blowtorch to do it. No high heels to come stomping on stage on. See if she can march like a wind-up doll barefoot. We get to see who is knock-kneed and who is bow-legegged.

Only then will we be able to concentrate on the candidate.

No, that is not going to work either. Speed-O and Paul and Newt not compatible.

Anyone know why the 1% dandy, Huntsman is still attending debates?

longer memory| 11.9.11 @ 3:52AM

Make that 1960's before men started growing fluffy sideburns and saying their wives made them do it.

ole meanie| 11.9.11 @ 7:46AM

As long as a woman isn't seeking ajob from me, it isn't sexual harrassment if I put my hand up her skirt? Are you serious?

Qwilly| 11.9.11 @ 5:32PM

This circus has been played out before in the 1950s The name to remember is EMMIT TEILE
google that you will find we as a country have been here before.

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 10:15PM

That was Churchill who said that you ignorant twat.

Occam's Tool| 11.9.11 @ 10:15PM

The ignorant twat was Jack. The "Jaw Jaw" comment is Churchill, who was a Zionist.

Frosty| 11.9.11 @ 11:21PM

All that is needed to complete the story is that Eric Holder appoints Mike Nifong as the government funded official spokesperson for Bialek. Eric sites Mr. Nifong's past experience at overlooking the facts and concentrating on the most important issue at hand....the political implications of the accusation.

As I have surmised before, the timing of the accusation is the most interesting aspect of this. Usually campaigns will hold inflammatory revelations until the last 48 hours before an election, preventing an adequate response by the opposition prior to the vote. The fact that The Despicable Left feels the need to introduce this now reveals their belief that Mr. Cain is the most formidable threat to Obama. Most think Romney is the most electable republican running. Although I personally have no issues with Romney, I think he is unelectable and the timing of this attack suggest that Dems think the same. They want to run against Romney....because there is a certain segment of the Christian community (majority Republican voters) who, for whatever reason, won't vote for Romney due to his religion. If Romney is the candidate, Obama wins 90% of the black vote and a meaningful segment of the Tea Party doesn't vote (refusing to hold their noses and vote for a RINO as they did in 2008). Obama just has to show up and he wins.
Cain is another matter...he would get the Christian vote, peel off 20 to 30% of the black vote, and the Tea Party would be happy to show up in droves for a conservative.
The Despicable Left agrees, I think, and has decided that Cain needs to be gotten rid of ASAP, to prevent this scenario.

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