The American Spectator : Cain Is Still Able

Jack in Wi| 11.7.11 @ 6:23AM

The compilation of polls published by Real Clear Politics as of October 31st has Ron Paul in second place behind Romney as the best candidate to Beat Obama. Polls in south Carolina and Iowa place him in 3rd place in the Republican field against Cain and Romney. Cain is a disaster for the party. He could never get close to winning the election or even the nomination. Let there be a long and civil debate between Romney and Ron Paul. Then lets have the primaries and see if the party can somhow be reunited.

chuck| 11.7.11 @ 7:33AM

I'll have a word with Cain, Perry, Gingrich, Bachmann, and Santorum to see if they will just drop out of the race so we can have this debate.

I'll get back to you with their responses.

Jack in Wi| 11.7.11 @ 8:38AM

Chuckie: The longer Gingrich, Santorum, Bachman, Cain, Perry etc hang around, the harder, it will be to have the needed discussion that the party needs. Perry and Cain are incoherent blowhards. Santorum is is a pompus ass. Gingrich, while intelligent, is unelectable because of all his personal pecidillos. Bachman had her chance and isn't coming back. Ron Paul gave a speech in her congressional district over the weekend and drew 3000 people for a big meeting. Lets see any of the other candidates do that, especially Michelle. Ron Paul again won another straw poll in Illinois. This time his total was 52%, to the rest of the field 48%. The party will never be reunited unless we hve the discussion I am talking about. Only Romney and Dr. Paul have the ability to beat Obama. Lets have the real debate the party and country needs. Chris Wallace at Fox News gave Ron Paul a good interview yesterday. Catch it on U Tube. He was terrific.

Mike Rogers | 11.7.11 @ 10:04AM

Cain always draws big crowds, sometimes rivaling Palin, and he doesn't need to pay his 'supporters' to attend straw polls like the doctor.

vtwin| 11.7.11 @ 10:54AM

4th woman to accuse Herman Cain.

http://content.usatoday.com/co.....accuser-/1

Man, this guy is a hound dog!

Nick| 11.7.11 @ 1:31PM

Sorry, but, liberals can't comment on this subject, vtwit.
Because you guys defended the perverted rapist, Bubba Clinton, for over eight years.

Nobody cares what you moral degenerates have to say.

Post American| 11.7.11 @ 6:26PM

Man you people need to get out of yer echo chambers! I'm not a liberal or a conservative because I like to think for myself and the world is not black and white, but grey. I never defended Clinton or Cain, because they are both shmucks.

Nick| 11.7.11 @ 7:38PM

But, you listen to Alex Jones, so, who cares what you think?

BlackNwhite| 11.7.11 @ 11:00PM

But that constitution thingy was written in black N white, in plain English for G-d's sake! (quite faded now both literally and figuratively) . There is not a lot of common ground between liberty and servitude. The grey area there is kinda scarce!

But for some unexplained reason, we seem to fall for the serpent's take on the meaning of the words.

jpelligrino| 11.8.11 @ 1:37AM

The DNC and George Soros will do anthing to disqualify Cain. Obama wants to run against Romney, that much is abundently clear. I just sent Cain $1000. Well worth it.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.8.11 @ 3:47AM

WTH ? The DNC and Soros have some special animus against Cain they don't have against the other candidates ? Says who, and why ?
Sorry you're wasting your money on a failed candidate like Mr. Cain

wodiej| 11.8.11 @ 7:59AM

I agree and I am not a liberal.

Boar Hunter| 11.7.11 @ 8:39PM

Ron Paul is an unelectable nut.

When asked on “Fox News Sunday” (11-06-11) what he would do to deter Iran’s alleged nuclear ambitions, Paul said “maybe offering friendship to them.”

Patriot4Freedom| 11.8.11 @ 3:44AM

Amen ! Ron Paul may be sincere in his beliefs, but he is just a nut-job in the minds of 90% of the conservative world. It's just preposterous to think the race should be between Romney and Paul.

chuck| 11.7.11 @ 4:54PM

It took all day, but I finally got the responses to your request for the candidates to drop out.

Santorum,(you know he answers his own phones, not much going on) says that God himself told him to run for President, so no way he's dropping out.

Bachmann says she put it to a vote with her 18 kids and 438 foster kids, and although it was close, they all voted for her to stay in.

Huntsman says okay, as long as he gets an Ambassadorship somewhere in the Caribbean, he's just tired of the Chinese food.

Perry says you can come down to Texas and he'll put a cowboy boot up your Yankee #&%. So I guess its a no-go with him.

Cain just laughed in that big baritone laugh of his, then start singing a Negro spiritual.

Gingrich said "there is something just FUNDAMENTALLY wrong about that".

Sorry Jack, I tried.

chuck| 11.7.11 @ 7:58PM

Talked to Romney about your proposal Jack, he was for it........then against it........then for it again......then finally said he get back to me after he runs a focus group and does some polling.

BTW, I ran it by DOCTOR Ron Paul, and he said "it sounds kind of kooky to me!"

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 8:27AM

"The World According to Jack"

1. Cain is leading in most polls, so he can't possibly win.

2. Paul gas never led in any poll, and is consistently 3rd-place or worse...so naturally, he's a shoe-in fir the nomination.

3. Polls that show Paul beating Obama, even though in likelihood Paul will NEVER obtain the nomination are the only polls that matter.

Is that about right, Jack in Munich??

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.7.11 @ 6:26AM

Well, I haven't run for the hills.
Rick Perry's speech in New Hampshire is the gem of the campaign so far; very serious and very funny.

chuck| 11.7.11 @ 7:31AM

Unfortunately, it was not covered, or sparsely covered, and may be too little, too late.

I think Perry would make a fine President, he as surely proven himself in Texas, but he needs to find a way to get primary voters who were supporting him and left, to give him a second look.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.7.11 @ 8:21AM

Well Chuck,
There are several more "debates scheduled", but right now, Cain has the spotlight and some momentum due to his "freshness".

I don't think Cain can sustain on "feel good". His campaign organization sucks.
Finally... "REMEMBER THE ALAMO". (It was a battle lost that won the war by giving Sam Houston time to gather his forces).

Frank Drackman| 11.7.11 @ 8:31AM

There were more bone-crunching hits in 1 quarter of the Ole Miss-Kentucky game than an entire season of Big(DUH, We can't count)12 football...
Seriously, OKLAHOMA STATE?!?!?!? they'd go 1-7 in the SEC, and thats bein charitable...

Frank "SEC RULES" Drackman

canuckistani| 11.7.11 @ 3:32PM

No playoffs = we'll never know, will we?

Frank Drackman| 11.7.11 @ 8:38AM

Ken, I just can't trust the Governor of a State who's flagship University belongs to a Conference that can't even count...
and the Governor's speach was "funny" in the same way that Bud Dwyer's speach was "funny"...
I know, I know, he was doin an Ironic riff on Samuel Coleridge's "Kubla Khan"...

Frank

W| 11.7.11 @ 10:58AM

For those that do not know, Budd Dwyer, a Pa Republican accused of corruption in office, shot himself dead at the end of a press conference. Thus he was not convicted of a crime and his wife received his state pension, had he been convicted the pension would have been forfeited.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.7.11 @ 11:47AM

Frank,
If you are going to burn electrons here, why not contribute something worthwhile?

Frank Drackman| 11.7.11 @ 1:02PM

Electrons don't burn.
and I'm not surprised you don't know that, coming from a State who's only ahead of Alabama & Mississippi due to your skyrocketing Ill-Legal population(can't blame em, with that cheap In-State tuition).
Elements can burn, Chemical Compounds can burn, Your-Rethra's can burn, my daughter can even burn water, but Not electrons..
There, now someone from Texas might get that right on the SAT...

Frank

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.7.11 @ 3:50PM

Well, Frank
I'm sorry, but I have almost consigned you to my "scroll-button list" along with Clint. When you first dropped in, I enjoyed your mildly funny comments, but you have now devolved into a cheap snark.
Why not join the adults in the room?

Jack in Wi| 11.7.11 @ 2:25PM

Old Texican: I don't care if Perry and even Gingrich are in the debates I am talking about. At least they have held important positions in the government and have real executive experience. Gingrich has as many skeletons in his closet as old Herm. Herm was head of the National Restaurant Asociation. That is a lobby group. The group had several complaints against Herm and payoffs were made. My big question is why wasn't Herman fired on the spot? We all know the reason for that. It is called affirmative action.

I have said for weeks that Uncle Herm was finished. It had nothing to do with his sexual harrasment claims, but about what he stands for. He is Mr. Federal Reserve. Herm is for endless wars for Israel. A national sales tax is the wet dream of all big government people. Herm wants a huge tax increase on the long suffering poor and middle class and a huge tax decrease on his pals the Koch's and the rest of the plutocrats. He is Mr. incohernet on abortion. He is generally ignorant of economics, history, geography, foreign policy, and Constitutional issues. His only answer to anything is 999 and I will have experts running the government. His idea of good experts is Henry Kissenger and Alan Greenspan. His biggest supporter on this site was Margie. Has even she abandoned him? Let the sharks finish off Herman. He brought all this on himself by swimming with them. He has always been a media and elite creation to split the conservative vote. He got way too big for his britches and they are killing off their own Frankenstein monster.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.8.11 @ 3:59AM

I agree with your criticisms of Mr. Cain - he is simply unelectable if voters look honestly at his record and background.
However, claiming "he has always been a media and elite creation to split the conservative vote" seems pretty silly when you consider the so-called "elites" were the ones pointing out that he had NO campaign organization, and seemed to really be in it to sell books !
Plus, how can they have created him, when half of his supporters claim they are deathly afraid of him, for some unknown reason ?

Redatheart| 11.7.11 @ 6:35AM

If Cain is the nominee, this sex scandal story will be resurrected in the general election. With a billion dollars to spend, Team Obama will find a way for Cain's accusers to get their side of the story told. At this point, Cain is able to control the definition of what comprises a sex scandal. His accusers have another story and it will come forward. He has known since his failed Senate run that this was going to be a problem. He told us about beating cancer because he knew it could be a deal-breaker and he wanted to get out in front with it. He knew the same of this part of his past, yet he didn't address it. His failure to mount an effort to deflect the charges was at first curious, but as the week unfolded his game plan was clear.

Rather than Cain himself mumble and bumble his way through a quagmire, he simply sat back, let the story break, allowed reporters and Politico to assume the position of attack dogs and him the role of Victim. Once that table was set, the big talkers on the Right, Fox News and a host of conservatives raced to his defense. The entire week of conservative news--on the radio, internet and TV-- was devoted to "poor Herman Cain, the victim of a witch hunt and unfair attack". Initially, his response seemed incredibly stupid but in the end, he was quite clever in allowing his friends to carry the water for him.

Cain was never once reprimanded for launching his own set of false accusations last week. Again, he gets a pass even while he so adamantly denied the accusers that had a problem with his behavior some years ago.

Had Team Limbaugh/Hannity/Levin/Boortz/Fox all sat back tentatively to wait and see how this story developed instead of mounting a huge offensive, Cain's poll numbers would have plummented. Herman owes them a debt of gratitude. Clearly, his accusers heard the huge outcry from the Right and that obviously plays a part in their continued silence. Who wants to get shredded day after day on the radio and TV? These women have families to consider and they don't want them subjected to the vitriol that surely would follow.

Examples of the kid glove handling he rec'd: When Mr. Block went on Brett Baier's program last week, he read answers from a cheat sheet. How could he have prepared answers if he didn't know the questions in advance? Hannity brought Cain on for a full hour on the radio to defend himself and with the luxury of no opposing point of view. Hannity even laced all of his commerical breaks during his Perry interview with comments about Cain's accusations of Perry being the 'leaker'. Rush devoted his entire 3 hours a week ago to the issue and seems intent on reframing this away from the election itself and into a chance to strike some deadly blows to the Left media. When he's been chastised a bit for getting off the subject and instead continuing the rehash of the sexual sins of Clinton, Edwards, et al, he tells people not to listen. He warned on Friday that anyone not supporting Cain in this should be ashamed, yet never spoke in such adamant terms in defense of Perry and the Stupid Rock Story. He didn't cover Perry's back by using his Golden EIB mike to tell the world that the Perry's simply had a deer lease on the property. Team BigTalkers never defended Perry's positions on Gardasil or gave him a full hour of air time to explain his position on instate tuition. (Romney attacked Huck {the state of Arkansas offers it too, as does a number of other states} for the same issue and ended up losing Iowa and Super Tuesday because of it. We didn't hear that historical perspective on the radio this season.)

Mr. Cain has a large cheering section of very influential voices and as long as they keep up the drumbeat on his behalf, the followers of those voices will continue to be placated regarding any concerns. With that said, any conservative that believes this sex scandal issue is past history and that it won't become big news again next Oct., should be ashamed.

JP| 11.7.11 @ 7:22AM

Cain won't be the nominee. But, his main idea(s) will live on. A national sales tax is now in our vocabluary, and will probably become law no-matter who sits in the WH. Stay tuned.

canuckistani| 11.7.11 @ 4:02PM

Yes, and it's likely the most effective tax that's out there.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.7.11 @ 8:06AM

Redatheart
Pretty good summation of my thoughts as well.
Well spoken, sir.

Sean| 11.7.11 @ 8:30AM

I would bet team Obama has already made a deal with the lawyers of these women. They have been granted leave to discuss the allegations, but they are probably already paid to come out during the general election. What benefit would Obama receive if details came out now?

canuckistani| 11.7.11 @ 4:10PM

None.
Cain would have imploded on himself long before the general - abd he spectacularly blamed Perry, remember?
Watching the ham-handed response to the allegations was all observers needed to know about his readiness.
I frankly believe that powerful men attract star-struck women, and none of the allegations include serious physical abuse or exchange of fluids a la "the dress". Much of it is sexual politics indiscretion, and not having a prepared response is his sin.

His blaming people for their economic situation is also red meat for the MSM and was the dog whistle call to dig into this guys background. Either man up or shut up. Preibus should have had the vetting done as well so he wouldn't look so pie-eyed when asked last week.

jpelligrino| 11.8.11 @ 1:40AM

I'm sure this is the case. Where were they when Cain ran for office before? Only crickets then.

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 8:34AM

For the last time...

Cain could NOT comment on the case.

He was not a party to the settlement. He was NOT involved. He has NO idea of the specifics. The settlement was SEALED.

The mere idea that he should have been out there bloviating to the press is nonsensical.

Cain handled this story perfectly. He has steadfastly denied the allegation (which was not proven, and has no bearing on the settlement), maintained his position, and even managed to turn the media's bias into a mini-story by refusing to adopt their prejudicial narrative.

And he still leads in the polls!

Mike Rogers | 11.7.11 @ 10:09AM

And all the activities of the leftist blogs and the shameful lawyer who claims to represent one of the anonymous "victims" basically amount to one thing:
Create a big fuss about nothing and try to get Cain to fill in the non-existent details which they cannot obtain, or dare not reveal because the incidents are too trivial to rise to the level of real harassment.

canuckistani| 11.7.11 @ 4:11PM

So sending Block and he onto the airwaves and blaming Perry was not bloviating?

He should have had a full press release prepared in the vault months ago.

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 4:31PM

"He should have had a full press release prepared in the vault months ago."

Why??? So he can keep playing by the mainstream media's rules??

Sorry, but that road leads to ruin.

It's quite possible that since this complaint is almost 2 decades old, and since Cain wasn't a party to the settlement, and since he has NO idea what's in the settlement, and since part of the settlement was an agreement by the plaintiff to not speak about it anymore...

...Then maybe he wasn't worried about it.

I'm sure you have a pre-written press-release for every potentially embarrassing moment in your life, right?

...Must be a LOT of press releases...

canuckistani| 11.7.11 @ 6:11PM

If I was trying to execute a successful presidential campaign? Absolutely, and you know better.

I am not saying the allegations are true other than hush money to get a scorned woman off the firing line, but coming out with a scatter-gun reaction was stupid and nonsensical. Now we have the mediawhore Allred trotting out a blonde white republican ex staffer that will suck up the MSM oxygen for another day.

Now what? He may be doing ok with quirky GOP primary watchers, but once the general gets going, this will be front and center. He better bury it now.

irish19| 11.7.11 @ 7:10PM

As has been pointed out, we essentially have nothing but a laundry list of vague accusations. Allred's client was quite a bit more specific, but Allred said she isn't going to file suit. Seems to me a lawsuit would already have been filed if there were any truth to the allegations. Canuck is right, however, in stating that this needs to have a stake driven through its heart and be buried ASAP.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.8.11 @ 4:18AM

No one expected him to comment on the settlement - but he COULD have commented on the case, and the nature of the allegations and ended the story. However, he gave 5 different, conflicting answers that only stoked the fire ! Then he assured everyone that the two NRA cases were the only cases, and it is already up to four - - so far !

MarkR| 11.7.11 @ 10:59PM

"Had Team Limbaugh/Hannity/Levin/Boortz/Fox all sat back tentatively to wait and see how this story developed instead of mounting a huge offensive, Cain's poll numbers would have plummented"--Yea blah blah blah. I am heading down to the registrar of voters and changing to independent after 43 years of republican registration. I no longer want to play the game. This thing has done the trick for me. Yea itll be Romney and we will see. But I no longer feel affiliated with a party that refuses to stand by their wounded. Give me REAL evidence and I will castigate Cain. I have no interest in selling my soul for the republican party. I dont care anymore about the inside politics game- I am going with what I believe. Romney is the worst of flip floppers and though he would be a major upgrade on the marxist I have no real trust in the man and his changing views. As far as the above quote goes I doubt seriously people are only persuaded by Hannity/Levin and Rush et al- I think its more the opposite- Hannity Levin and Rush reflect what a lot of Americans believe. I have seen too many republicans in the media and politics fly the coop and go from conservative to liberal whether stated overtly or not. I see little on the other side (though a few). The republican party has no soul. I quit it today.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.8.11 @ 4:10AM

Seconding the "well said" . . .
That puts it in its proper place.

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 6:42AM

" Cain's support dips after sex accusations: poll

Allegations that Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain sexually harassed women in the 1990s have begun to damage his bid for the White House, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found.

The poll showed the percentage of Republicans who view Cain favorably dropped 9 percentage points, to 57 percent from 66 percent a week ago.

Among all registered voters, Cain's favorability declined 5 percentage points, to 32 percent from 37 percent.

The survey represents the first evidence that sexual harassment claims dating from Cain's time as head of the National Restaurant Association have taken a toll on his presidential campaign."

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 8:37AM

He still leads.

And you still owe us an answer.

WILL you support the GOP nominee if it's not Ron Paul?

It's a simple question, so you should be able to answer it.

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 9:03AM

Dr.Reich's The RINO-CINO Who Said He Will Vote For Romney.

We Are Being Set Up By These RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 9:22AM

Yes, we ALL know what I said. And unlike you, I have balls, so I stand by it.

NOW. Stop playing games, and answer the question.

Everyone is watching as I call you out for the FRAUD that you are.

Answer, coward.

NOW.

The clock is ticking...

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 9:32AM

Keep Playin' Your RINO-CINO Games & Find Out, RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooge, Dr.Reich.

You're The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooge, Who Said He Will Vote For Romney.

We Are Being Set Up By These RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 9:59AM

We get it: Like all Paul-Bots, you're a big, fat baby.

So now we know; you WON'T support the GOP nominee if it isn't Ron Paul.

You're a blowhard, and a coward.

Or...maybe you'd like to correct that assertion by actually answering the question??

Instead of robi-posting the same old drivel??

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 10:49AM

Uh Oh !
The RINO-CINO Romney Crybaby, Dr.Reich Is All Pouty & Whiney Again.

http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/.....people.jpg

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 11:01AM

Once again...NO answer.

Clint = fraud and coward.

GOT YA!

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 11:10AM

Aaaaaand, We Got Your Number RINO-CINO Dr.Reich.

You're The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooge, Who Said He Will Vote For Romney.

We Are Being Set Up By These RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 11:21AM

Clint "Cut-n-Paste" Air...

It's obvious you've never had an original thought. I don't know why I bother..

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 11:33AM

Because You're A " Mittenite" .

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 11:48AM

Yeah, that makes sense.

Anyone ever tell you you're clever?

Clint = Coward

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 2:06PM

Dr.Reich= Mittenite RINO-CINO.

Bydand76| 11.7.11 @ 10:04AM

Clint,

just out of curiosity....

Why do you capitalize every single word in your posts?

I am not being critical or anything I am just wondering why?

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 10:42AM

I'm A Capitalist, Silly.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Mike Rogers | 11.7.11 @ 10:11AM

Don't feed the Liberal Troll!
And yes, I am accusing Clint of being a Liberal Troll, because (a) about half of Ron Paul's rabid youth are liberals, and (b) Clint does not stand for the ideals which animate most Spectator readers.
Cat, meet pigeons!

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 10:40AM

That's Pretty Bold Talk For The One-Eyed Fat RINO-CINO, Little Micky.

'Dr.RON PAUL'S “PLAN TO RESTORE AMERICA”

CUTTING GOVERNMENT WASTE:

Makes a 10% reduction in the federal workforce, slashes Congressional pay and perks, and curbs excessive federal travel. To stand with the American People, President Paul will take a salary of $39,336, approximately equal to the median personal income of the American worker.

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the.....e-america/

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here

Sean| 11.7.11 @ 12:00PM

You are right! Clint doesn't stand for TARP, Auto bailouts, big government spending and an added national sales tax.

JP| 11.7.11 @ 7:20AM

And in 2-4 years when we are paying 10% national sales tax we can thank one Republican in particular. Nine-nine-nine will become a 4 letter word to most people.

chuck| 11.7.11 @ 7:47AM

I would thank him, because FICA taxes would be eliminated, as would the death tax, federal unemployment tax, federal excise taxes, self-employment tax, capital gains tax, and about 40,000 pages of illegible garbage now known as the tax code.
You say that Congress will just raise the rate, to 10, 12, 15 %? What in the hell is there is stop them from raising any of the other rates? At least when it is simple, as 9-9-9 is, it is much harder to hide tax increases. Do you even have a clue as to how much tax there is on a gallon of gas? Hell no, because it is hidden in the price.
Politicians love the existing tax code, it allows them to hide all sorts of taxes. Most people don't even have a clue as to how much is taken out of their check every week. Beauty of withholding. Gone before you ever see it.
If you want to keep the current tax code, you're a fool. I'll take something simpler like 9-9-9, or preferably, the Fair Tax, which is where Cain is headed with 9-9-9.

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 9:43AM

Real Conservatives will never allow Big Government Spending Parasites to have a National Sales Tax & An Income Tax.

Cain's 9/9/9 is a Non-Starter.

Mike Rogers | 11.7.11 @ 10:13AM

And your plan to balance government spending with (lower) tax revenue is??
Come out from under the bridge, Troll.

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 10:35AM

You The Troll, Little Micky.

'Dr.RON PAUL'S “PLAN TO RESTORE AMERICA”

SPENDING:

Cuts $1 trillion in spending during the first year of Ron Paul’s presidency, eliminating five cabinet departments (Energy, HUD, Commerce, Interior, and Education), abolishing the Transportation Security Administration and returning responsibility for security to private property owners, abolishing corporate subsidies, stopping foreign aid, ending foreign wars, and returning most other spending to 2006 levels."

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the.....e-america/

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

canuckistani| 11.7.11 @ 4:13PM

Since when did real conservatives care about debt?

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 4:32PM

To quote Kip...

"Always, and FOREVER."

canuckistani| 11.7.11 @ 6:13PM

Did they run away from them or fess up and pay them off?

Frank Drackman| 11.7.11 @ 8:16AM

the Sales tax would only apply to NEW items...
and thats the problem with America nows-a-days, -Obese-Unemployed-welfare-queens-drive-brand-new-leased-Lexuses...
While I drive a 95' Made-in-Amurica-Muscle-Car...(Canada is technically "America")
I buy used Cars, Electronic Items, heck, I'd buy used food if I could find any...
and when you get all those Dollars that today go to Mexico, to get converted to Pesos, to pay Human Trafficers, who bring more Mexicans to earn Dollars cutting Mitt Romney's lawn..
Where was I?
Oh yeah, Mexicans, well today, they don't file taxes, and not because they have as little respect for American Tax Laws as the do for American Immigration Laws, its cause Mitt Romney doesn't give Pedro the Pool Dude a 1099, much less a W-2...
and the beauty of a 9% Sales Tax on New Items is that....................
Lottery Tickets are "New" Items.
I mean I guess you could buy used lottery tickets if you wanted to..
And if it wasn't for the Jaw-Jaw lottery, rich bastards like me would have to pay for there kids college instead of puttting it back into the economy..
Well my 08' ZO6 put some back into someone's economy...

Frank

Ted| 11.7.11 @ 2:49PM

"the Sales tax would only apply to NEW items..."

And yet the problems are legion. When the income tax was originally enacted there were 7 brackets from 1% ($0 - $453,292) up to 7% (over $11,332,304). And now look at the Internal Revenue Code: an intricate disaster.

We fool only ourselves if we say, "Hey, it won't be so bad."

Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 11.7.11 @ 7:21AM

Cain will be out and sooner then you think.

Frank Drackman| 11.7.11 @ 7:25AM

First!
First Herb Cain supporter anyway..
If y'all wanta nominate another Jerry Ford/Bob Dull/McCain loser go ahead...
The nomination's gonna be won in the South, just like the BCS championship, and right now Perrys only holdin even in Texas with the Ill-Legal(at Bushwood) vote...
Romney flips more agiley than Nadia Komanechi,' Perry's a muscleheaded dolt, and if Ron Paul's so smart howcome he went into OB/GYN?...
The other great thang about Cain...
He wears Hats, REAL Hats like Bogie wore...
And I mark America's decline not from the elimination of Silver from coinage, but from whomever patented those rediculous "One Size fits All" Baseball caps, you know, the ones with that plastic band you can adjust, you know, if your Head Circumference grows a little bit.
In my Day, you picked out hat that fit your head, and if your head got bigger, you earned some money and bought a new hat...
And you'll see pics of Obama(Peas be upon Him) bowing at the Ka'ba before you'll see one of Prophet Mitt wearing a Stetson...
And I'm sure Rick Perry might wear a Trucker Cap with a "Gas, Grass, or Ass, Nobody rides for Free" on one of his runs, so as not to muss that Ron Burgundy Doo' , and I didn't realize Peyote grew in the Texas Wiregrass...
Umm, that might make me vote for him actually..

Frank

Mike Rogers | 11.7.11 @ 10:17AM

Real reporters wear stetsons, too:
http://granitegrok.com/blog/20.....e_oth.html
Yes, Spectator's very own RS McCain :)

W| 11.7.11 @ 11:10AM

Bubba and Algore wore baseball hats. Enough said.

What is more stupid than a middle age man wearing a baseball cap backwards?

Herman's hate is different from Bogie's, it is wider all around. I have one similar to Herman's and one like Bogie's. JFK started the trend to not wear hats. Maybe Presdient Cain will bring the style back.

martin j smith| 11.7.11 @ 7:39AM

Until those who call themselves Republcians recognize that a smear against one wll in the end be a smear against all--the Establishment branch is a hopeless case for me. Mr Antlee- are you one of those who was hoping that this smear would wipe Cain out ? I have followed several blogs and I get that idea from a number of posters. I think that attitude is very destructive and may not only destroy this country with another term of Obama but destroy an chance of a viable opposition party which I would say is redundant because we would have a one party government.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.8.11 @ 4:35AM

It's not a smear when Mr. Cain himself admits that TWO women filed complaints against him during his short tenure at the Natl. Rest. Assn. ( I've decided NOT to use their initials, because they aren't the REAL N.R. you-know-what ). When has ANY previous Republican candidate EVER been accused of harrassment ? All this talk of conspiracy is just nuts . . . BTW, have you ever heard of anyone you know who works for a company whose exec had two harrassment cases filed against him ? Finally, there is NO way this guarantees an Obama win - unless Mr. Cain's supporters continue to act like children and refuse to vote for the eventual Republican nominee - who will most certainly not be Mr. Cain !

Mimi| 11.7.11 @ 7:58AM

nd I cleaned around the coffee pot!

Mimi| 11.7.11 @ 7:59AM

post lost...error

Mimi| 11.7.11 @ 8:05AM

Herman doesn't come off as the kind of guy of what he has been accused of! Us GIRLS can spot the WISE-GUY type in a heartbeat....Herm don't fit that mold!
They have to give us more....and so far this looks like a DUD!

Redatheart| 11.7.11 @ 8:30AM

Then, why, Mimi, didn't Cain come clean w/ this when he announced? He told us about having survived cancer; why not say up front he also survived some sexual harassment claims? He knew it would come out just as he knew the cancer would come out and either could cause concern among voters. It isn't just this issue that has voters of serious discernment concerned; he has completely botched his responses when asked about foreign affairs. It was reported last week in Newsmax that his wife votes Democrat frequently. The other big point everybody is missing in this NRA scandal deal is that the NRA is a high-powered Washington insider lobbying group, yet Mr. Squeaky Clean keeps talking about how he's not one of the herd when it comes to cronyism or politics. And, the thousands in hush money paid to these women on his behalf were dues from small mom and pop restaurants, just like dollars paid in by the huge restaurant chains. Small business owners helped finance the pay-off's to women that Cain is trying to portray as dirt under his feet. His comments and actions toward them were offensive in their opinion but because he was the CEO and had the benefit of a supporting staff and high powered law firm at his disposal, he can now claim HIS interpretation of what happened is the correct one. Arrogance?

There is another story regarding legitimate concerns with his campaign finance accounting that is getting little media attention. Maybe the media is waiting for Rush to get the sex scandal put to bed for now before that one is rolled out. And as for sex scandals, google Cain's top aide, Mr. Block and and see what comes up about him. He's got a bit of a record worthy of scrutiny too, especially since he likes to race to camera's and level attacks and accusations at others.

Support whomever you wish and put your faith in that person but don't get caught up in the cult of personality and develop deep emotional attachments to candidates. That does not serve them well and far too often we've seen people go down the drain with their political heroes that once revealed, are anything but.

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 8:45AM

And what would constitute "coming clean"?

Since Cain was not a party to the settlement, he has no idea what it contained. Zero.

You have no idea how these things work, do you?

A settlement is NOT an admission of guilt. It's nothing but hush-money given to the plaintiff in return for his/her agreement to shut up. This is done ALL the time because it's the easiest and least expensive way for corporations to deal with the problem. The allegation disappears when the plaintiff accepts the settlement.

Cain has never been charged with anything. The accusation was never more than that -an accusation. Many CEOs and higher-level executives have to deal with this crap because employees and lawyers know how to play the game.

There is not one shred of proof to this story.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.8.11 @ 4:46AM

As I wrote earlier, have you ever heard of anyone you know who works for a company whose exec had two harrassment cases filed against him ?
Harrassment claims of this kind do NOT happen all the time ! Companies settle specious claims all the time, but those claims rarely if ever involve claims of harrassment against a senior exec.

ole meanie| 11.8.11 @ 9:10PM

I have seen your condescending posts about legal matters often enough to suspect that you are not a lawyer; no harm in that, but you embarrass yourself by pretending knowledge you clearly are lacking.

Actually, if Cain was "not a party to the settlement"--as you claim-- no term of the settlement--including a duty of non-disclosure or confidentiality--is binding on him. If Cain was "not a party to the settlement", he can talk all he wants. He is not bound by or protected by the settlement agreement if he was "not a party".

Also, contrary to your assertions, insurance companies and corporations do not throw "hush money" at plaintiffs to buy silence when there is no merit to the claim. If there is no merit to the claim they file motions for summary judgment; but even if there is some colorable merit to the claim, they will often spend more money to defend than than they have could have been able to settle the claim for. I know whereof I speak because I used to defend insurance companies and big corporations in civil lawsuits. I never saw any of them run scared. They have plenty of money and they are in the game to earn their premiums.

In any case, there is a faulty premise underlying your argument: you seem to assume that the public has a burden to prove that a candidate is unfit for office, which in turn implies that a candidate has the right to be president, like a criminal defendant has a right to liberty until convicted in a court of law, where the burden of proof is "beyond a reasonable doubt". Actually, the burden is on the candidate to prove his fitness, and there is a different standard in the court of public opinion: not reasonable doubt of guilt, but reasonable doubt of innocence.

I have no evidence of Cain's innocence or guilt of these allegations, nor do you. The difference is that I don't use my ignorance of the legal system to support a meritless argument. You do.

Mimi| 11.7.11 @ 9:38AM

To me, this whole thing smells of the "OBAMA" way, " CLEAR THE FIELD"....it started with Sarah... look what was done to her onto any one who may....MAY... run against him. Watch what he and his minions do see if they don't blacken with smut any one who gets traction!
Truth clears things up quickly !, the LEFT has the PRESS .... the people must be aware of what devil stuff they DO!

Wayne| 11.7.11 @ 9:56AM

It is the Obama way, and some dopey conservatives have fallen for it. Cain gets the Palin treatment, and they join in completing the smear. Its pretty sickening really.

irish19| 11.7.11 @ 1:10PM

Actually, it's the Chicago Way. Possibly with a touch of Alinsky thrown in.

Ted| 11.7.11 @ 2:57PM

Actually, this is very much like the treatment Obama's opponent Jack Ryan got when Obama ran for the U.S. Senate in Illinois in 2004. Sealed divorce decree.... Then allegations of impropriety on Ryan's part. And then Chicago newspapers sued to have Ryan's divorce records released. All the while Obama publicly saying that the Democrats should not get involved in the divorce records issue....

irish19| 11.7.11 @ 7:13PM

Bingo!! Great catch! I wasn't sure anyone else here remembered that little item.

BackToBasics| 11.7.11 @ 2:58PM

Maybe he didn't say anyting about it because he is totally innocent and didn't feel guilty about it.

How can you come clean if there is no truth to the story other than saying there's no truth to it? Anita Hill didn't need proof yet her false allegations almost worked against Clarence Thomas. Why stir up that hornet's nest when there is no winning it with many large groups, one of which is the Republican Establishment, a second are most Democrats, a third is the somewhat left-leaning middle and add to it all other gullible groups who seem to believe the lies of the left rather than the more solid proposals of conservatives.

Bumr50| 11.7.11 @ 8:07AM

Herman Cain is above most of this quagmire, and has acquitted himself nicely.

He's a formidable force, having weathered this, and the competition is running scared.

Anything that any Cain accuser says from this point going forward will be viewed as disingenuous slander.

If the MSM isn't worried about him garnering a large percentage of independent votes, why the cutthroat campaign?

Sometimes the simplest answer is the right answer.

They view Cain as a HUGE threat, as does the establishment right.

This is a tremendous opportunity to give them all the hale hearty "F**K YOU" that they so richly deserve.

IMO the establishment GOP is just as much an enemy in this cycle as the Left. Both are fighting t0 maintain power and influence, and IMHO have never been tested to this degree.

I may be overstating, but judging by reactions taken from a variety of sources, I don't think so.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.8.11 @ 4:58AM

"Acquitted himself nicely " . . . WTH ? ? ?
To quote Gabriel Malor at the Ace of Spades blog, from 11/04 . . .
" Cain's defenders have a curious array of arguments that this whole problem is a "smear," from Ann Coulter's race card to the extremely odd claim that Cain's fumbling should be excused because the NRA accusers have chosen to remain anonymous. I say "extremely odd" because, while the NRA accusers are anonymous to the public, Cain certainly knows who they are, the claims they made, and the contours of the settlements. And he still couldn't muster a response other than his implausible explanations followed by inconsistent clarifications.

That might be my biggest issue. If his latest statement blaming Perry is to be believed, he had years to prepare for this issue, not just the 10 days that Politico gave him. And he still came out fumbling and generally doing everything you do when you think you have something to hide. Maybe it's just me, but I'd think I'd remember a bit of details if I were ever accused of sexual harassment. At a minimum, I would know what the person was claiming against me. You're telling me that Cain has so many confidentiality provisions in claims against him, he can't remember which claim is which?!

The Cain defenders say that this is all a "distraction" and they're absolutely right. It is a distraction from the issues that matter: jobs, the economy, Obamacare, etc. It's a distraction of Cain's own making. Unlike the rest of us, who had no idea this was waiting in the wings, Cain knew about the whole thing. He's not the "victim" of sexual harassment allegations; at this point, he's a "volunteer." Everything about this story was in Cain's power to control and he whiffed. This will continue---drip, drip, drip---for weeks. "

martin j smith| 11.7.11 @ 8:27AM

What troubles me most Antlee is this: The tacit acceptance of whatever the MSM puts out as "truth "by people who claim they are Republicans. This raises my eyebrows very high and makes me wonder.

Antlee I do not know if you want Obama to have a second term or not. But, I will say this: The defensive position of some who call themselves Republicans makes me vomit--oh that means throw up. I am not not a supporter of Cain or any other candidate except two I will never support. That said: I morally support Cain in his fight against media thugs as well as RINOS who take upt their cause. Until and unless there is proof that Cain did wrong that goes beyond what Clinton,Kennedy along with some other jerks did of a sexual nature I say: Shut the hell up. The Caun saga has suggested once again that Republican Party cannot be trusted ( I mean the current leaders ) and more than the Socialists of the Left. They are the same.

Bumr50| 11.7.11 @ 8:35AM

martin j smith -

A point that Limbaugh makes often - and correctly so - is that many of the people that you describe remain AFRAID of the media.

"Like it or not" they have REAL influence they say...

And why is that?

They only have the power that we give them. And if Cain detractors don't think that if it wasn't Herman it would would be their guy, they're sorely mistaken.

Cain isn't scared of the media, and that makes him even more viable in my book. He's embraced that role, and has done it admirably.

It's also why many DC pundits can't seem to figure out why he continues to poll well and make money.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.8.11 @ 5:08AM

Who was the last Republican candidate for President who was accused of sexual harrassment ? Oh, yeah, there has NEVER been a candidate accused of that before. That should put the claims of a conspiracy by the MSM to rest. The MSM runs with this story because it involves a conservative/Republican - but they are NOT behind the scandal. They would not be after another one of the candidates if Mr. Cain didn't have this baggage in his past.

Redatheart| 11.7.11 @ 8:38AM

Martin J Smith, not willing or interested in getting into a debate with you but can't let the "shut the Hell up" comment stand. Whether you agree or not that there are many with major concerns about Herman Cain, those persons have the same Constitutional right to express same as you have to go online and try to stifle instructive debate and public discourse. Everybody is getting more and more passionate and anytime one's candidate goes under attack, those emotions accelerate, but vetting is fair and necessary. As you will note, we are currently under the rule of a leader that was NOT vetted and much was left quietly tucked away, at least long enough to get him elected. Our country is in demise thanks to failed policies, inexperience, the reliance on czar's and quiet executive appointments of folks that do not have America's best interest at heart. In this, of all elections, we have a right to discuss candidates, their strengths, weaknesses and then make informed opinions about their ability to lead. Shutting up isn't a grassroots conservative value and it certainly isn't an American value.

Anthony| 11.7.11 @ 8:43AM

The Politico, the WaPo, and the rest of the whores in the MSM have done their best at taking Mr.Cain out. They have failed miserably.
To think these cheeky bastards could bring down Mr. Cain on unnamed, undocumented charges, day after day, stories with no substgance, when they did their best to cover up for the rapist Bill Clinton, the out of wedlock child producer, the phony Rev. Jessie Jackson, and the two-timer with a dying wife and great hair, John Edwards.
Do the MSM have any idea how irrelevant they are?
They will now. Hey Politico, I'm still waiting for your story on Obozo's Pakistani lover boy.
We need to take down the left once and for all!!!

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 9:54AM

Don't forget the RINOs and the Paul-Bots. They're all afraid of Cain.

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 10:55AM

Dr,Reich & His RINO-CINO Mittenites Are Scared of The Tea Party & Our Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr.Ron Paul.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 9:54AM

Don't forget the RINOs and the Paul-Bots. They're all afraid of Cain.

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 10:56AM

Like I Said, Dr. Reich & His RINO-CINO Mittenites Are Scared of The Tea Party & Our Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr.Ron Paul.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 11:02AM

Clint = coward.

Answer the question, dummy.

Dick Nome| 11.7.11 @ 11:11AM

He doesn't answer questions. He only makes threats like the keyboard bully he is. Still hasn't come clean on his reported pecadillos. He needs to stop exposing himself at Paulbot rallies. The girls can't stop laughing at him

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 11:24AM

You're Scared Of The Tea Party & Our Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr.Ron Paul.

" Dr.RON PAUL'S “PLAN TO RESTORE AMERICA”

TAXES:

Lowers the corporate tax rate to 15%, making America competitive in the global market. Allows American companies to repatriate capital without additional taxation, spurring trillions in new investment. Extends all Bush tax cuts. Abolishes the Death Tax. Ends taxes on personal savings, allowing families to build a nest egg. "

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the.....e-america/

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 11:15AM

Keep Playing Your RINO-CINO Games & Find Out, Mittenite Dr.Reich.

We Are Being Set Up By These RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 1:10PM

Find out what?

That you're an under-achiever who needs a father-figure leader to feel important?

Sorry...already knew that.

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 2:17PM

Find Out That There Is A Tea Party Rebellion & We Are Not Gonna Be Set Up By These RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Drunken Sailor| 11.7.11 @ 12:02PM

Come on DR, even his idol wouldn't answer the question of if he would run as a 3rd party canidate if someone else got the Republican nomination. Do you really expect Clint to rationalize? Hell no, it's blind allegiance or nothing. Smells like Ross Perot all over again.

Like most of us Ron Paul is not my choice. However if he came down to him or Obama I would vote for him. Many (Most?) Paul-bots will not reciprocate those idea's. They prefer to cut of their nose to spite their face.

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 12:36PM

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 1:13PM

Hey, everybody!

Let's play a cool new drinking game!

It's called "Robo-Posting with Nit-Wits"!!

EVERYBODY DRINKS Whenever Clint posts the following:

"These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail....."

We'll all be blind-drunk my mid-day!

We won't be productive, but it'll be lots of fun!

irish19| 11.7.11 @ 1:14PM

Actually, Paul did say (yesterday, I think) that he would not consider a third party run. Just sayin'. The question still needs to be answered.
And Clint, that "Capitalist" pun was over the line. I shudder when I think of it.

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 1:50PM

Capitalist, Dr.Ron Paul Says, "Who's In Your Wallet, American Taxpayer" ?

" DR. RON PAUL “PLAN TO RESTORE AMERICA”

TAXES:

Lowers the corporate tax rate to 15%, making America competitive in the global market. Allows American companies to repatriate capital without additional taxation, spurring trillions in new investment. Extends all Bush tax cuts. Abolishes the Death Tax. Ends taxes on personal savings, allowing families to build a nest egg. "

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the.....e-america/

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Drunken Sailor| 11.7.11 @ 1:57PM

That's good to know Irish but as you can see Clint will vote for Ron Paul or no one. Even if it kills the country.

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 2:23PM

We Tea Party Patriots Are Killing Off The RINO-CINO's.

There Is A Tea Party Rebellion & We Are Not Gonna Be Set Up By These RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 4:34PM

Drink-Up, Everybody!!!!

Glub-Glub-Glub!!!

...BURP!!!!!!

Ted| 11.7.11 @ 3:01PM

I don't know DS... I am not sure I can stomach voting for Romney. I don't for one moment believe he's a conservative at all. I don't believe him when he says he's pro-life; I don't for one minute he really believes in the 2nd Amendment. It's more Rockefeller/country club RINOism (Bush I) and compassionate conservatism (Bush II).

Drunken Sailor| 11.7.11 @ 3:09PM

Ted, I agree. But is that worse than the man we have in office now? That seems to be our choice if we do not get the canidate we want past the primary. Do we vote for anyone over Obama or do we stay home, feel morally superior, and watch our country die before our very eyes?

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 4:35PM

The Paul-Bots LIKE feeling morally superior...

...It's all they've got.

In that regard, they're not much different from Liberals.

irish19| 11.7.11 @ 7:16PM

We most assuredly do NOT stay home. If nothing else, we work to make sure the Representatives and Senators we elect are as conservative as possible. That will at the very least stem the bleeding if we have another lib President.

jpelligrino| 11.8.11 @ 1:43AM

I'm afraid that honor will fall to Donald Trump, the man who took millions of George Soros dollars to bail out his last real estate fiasco that would have left him bankrupt. He now owes Soros big.

Louis Jenkins| 11.7.11 @ 8:51AM

Right or wrong Cain has stood his ground, and yes, he could have done a better job. He said a high tech lynching was on the way and he was correct. We have the Liberals and Conservatives having their tete' a tete' and Cain is no different. But Cain has somewhat survived the first assault, and apparently the polls show the same. At least Cain has a base that he can depend on, and they haven't melted away yet. The bottom line, folks, we cannot afford to have another four years of Obama. Don't cut and run, stand your ground a year from now.

Mike Rogers | 11.7.11 @ 10:21AM

The campaign has moved to the next phase, and the media is slow catching on: Cain-Gingrich is a likely GOP ticket, especially after the Tea Party "debate" in Texas last Saturday. THAT is a partnership which should scare all the other candidates to death. Watch:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/CainNew

chuck| 11.7.11 @ 5:03PM

Cain -Gingrich can not happen. The Constitution forbids both the President and VP from being residents of the same state.
Both are from Georgia, so it can't happen.
Too bad, they would work well together.

irish19| 11.7.11 @ 7:21PM

I don't have my copy handy. Are you sure about that?

Drunken Sailor| 11.8.11 @ 8:51AM

Actually they can run together. But if two canidates run from the same state for CIC and VP then that state loses it's electoral college votes for that race. Check the 12th amendement, I think.

John C.| 11.7.11 @ 9:54AM

Problem with Cain is his positions are not conservative.

As Commander-in-Chief he said in several debates and on Greta that he wants to give interior border enforcement to the states (instead of the federal government) thus guaranteeing sanctuary cities for Blue and Purple states.

Adding a huge sales tax while retaining a federal income tax is foolhardy and not conservative.

In one debate, when pressed, he said he would not reinstate DADT. He was even muddled on abortion.

He said on Greta, as CIC he would deter Iran from getting nukes by having an energy independence program -- very naïve.

His first instincts were not to audit monopoly money printer Helicopter Ben. His favorite Fed guy is liberal, real estate bubble guru Alan Greenspan.

He wants to let multi-national corporations who have plants overseas pay zero income tax (repatriation) thus giving them further incentive to outsource our vital industry and American jobs even more.

How is Herman a conservative? I wish he were.

Bill| 11.7.11 @ 10:09AM

Herman Cain is a liar, notice how he responds (his facial expression) when he is asked about his sexual allegations. He is angry and disoriented, he needs to tell us the truth about his sexual affair with those 3 women, otherwise he would become another John Edwards. Sorry, Mr. Cain, You've got NO chance. Cain is going down with Obama.

Mike Rogers | 11.7.11 @ 10:23AM

You would be angry if a non-incident exploited by a disgruntled ex-employee was being constantly flung in your face as the "reporters" try to scare you into admitting something that didn't happen, because there is nothing real they can get from the"source".

Patriot4Freedom| 11.8.11 @ 6:16AM

Companies don't settle "non-incidents" for a year's salary - and it is unheard of for a senior executive to have two complaints filed in as short a time as Mr. Cain experienced. Something did happen, we just don't know any of the details yet.

jpelligrino| 11.8.11 @ 1:45AM

Ridiculous. Ever watch Bill Clinton's face when he was accused of sexually harassing the many women he sexually harassed? Totally different animal. This is pissed-off face and that is aw-shucks face.

oldfart| 11.7.11 @ 10:09AM

Romney and Paul are non-finishers. Romney is to much RINO and not really sure what univerise Paul lives in. Cain is a good choice, especially since he is standing up to a really nasty attack ('they' must really be afraid of him). Perhaps Mr. Cain can bring real 'change' we can believe in not just a buch of re-packaging of MOS (more of the same) the current President gave us.

Melvin| 11.7.11 @ 10:46AM

I have discussed this issue with many Conservatives in my area. They loath Romney. I know this sounds hard to believe, but they would rather deal with another four more years of Obama than with a Progressive Romney. Romney isn't a Conservative, he's a Progressive like Bush and Obama.
Perry is also cut from the same bolt of cloth. Once again the media and the Elitists Establishment of the Republican Party are cramming their chosen candidate down our throats, just like they did with old Johnny Boy.
It is difficult to absorb that the Republican Party cannot field a strong candidate but when your running two Progressives again each other there isn't much that separates them.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.8.11 @ 6:25AM

... " the media and the Elitists[sic] Establishment of the Republican Party are cramming their chosen candidate down our throats " ...
That is just plain silly !
No one forces anyone to vote for a particular candidate, in either any of the primaries, or in the general election. That is just some kind of crazy conspiracy theory unworthy of the conservatives.
BTW, did you know that 5% of Obama's votes in 2008 came from voters who identified themselves as "conservatives" who wouldn't vote for McCain ? If you take those votes away from Obama, he would have lost the election ! For their cupidity, we ended up with the first POTUS in history to appoint an avowed Communist to their administration !

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 11:05AM

" Top Tier: Ron Paul Polls Third In Three Early Voting States

GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul is polling in third in the key early voting states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, according to a new CNN/Time poll released yesterday.

The Texas Congressman attracted 12% in telephone polls with potential voters in all three states."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Wayne| 11.7.11 @ 12:38PM

3rd does not get you nominated.

Clint| 11.7.11 @ 1:34PM

Third Is Top Tier.

Aaaaand, The Media Agendists Are Scared Of The Tea Party & Our Tea Party Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr.Ron Paul.

" DR. RON PAUL “PLAN TO RESTORE AMERICA”

ENTITLEMENTS:

Honors our promise to our seniors and veterans, while allowing young workers to opt out. Block grants Medicaid and other welfare programs to allow States the flexibility and ingenuity they need to solve their own unique problems without harming those currently relying on the programs."

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the.....e-america/

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Doctor Right| 11.7.11 @ 4:37PM

3rd does not get you nominated.

"Top-Tier" does not guarantee a nomination.

1st-place gets you nominated.

1st-place means you come in 1st. Not 2nd. And not 3rd.

1st means 1st.

Ron Paul is not 1st.

Ron Paul will NEVER be 1st.

Ron Paul is 3rd.

That means Ron Paul loses...again.

emo| 11.7.11 @ 9:22PM

""Third Is Top Tier.""

Tell that to President Lamar Alexander or President Fred Thompson

chuck| 11.7.11 @ 5:06PM

12%............and you're all excited???
Haaaaaaaaaaa

Bill| 11.7.11 @ 10:18AM

Here the things will happen when Herman Cain gets the GOP nomination: 1) He will huge Barack Obama in the stage of the Presidential debate (because Cain is Obama's uncle-brother) 2) Cain is from Georgia and he will happily deliver Georgia to Obama 3)In a head to head match-up and with the sexual allegations, Cain's poll number will drop dramatically, by the election day, Cain will be drowned, making Obama a shoe-in incumbent. Giving those facts, PLEASE DO NOT VOTE HERMAN CAIN in the GOP primary.

irish19| 11.7.11 @ 7:23PM

So, who would you recommend? Romney the RINO whose Romneycare served as the model for Obamacare? There's a winning candidate.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.8.11 @ 6:28AM

Please, vote for a real conservative !
There are numerous articles out there citing Mr. Cain's lack of conservative principles - do your research people !

John C.| 11.7.11 @ 10:21AM

Oh and one other position Cain-the- (pseudo) conservative took. He was for Bush’s / Pelosi’s / Boehner’s TARP – the mother of all bailouts.

Mike Rogers | 11.7.11 @ 10:25AM

He got caught up in the 2008 narrative that: (a) there was imminent danger, and (b) the money would actually be used to get bad loans off the market. He learned rapidly that neither was true, and won't get fooled again.

Melvin| 11.7.11 @ 10:35AM

Who the hell is pushing this? Now Drudge has plastered in bold Red By-line. "CAIN ACCUSER TO BREAK SILENCE." New woman to break silence retains Gloria Allred, for alleged Sexual Harassment charges.
It appears that someone with deep pockets is making sure Herman is destroyed. By reading the story on Radar there doesn't appear to be anything additional. The phrase, "Alleged Sexual Harassment Charges, comes back up. So than other than keeping the issue in the media cycle, there doesn't appear to be anything new to the issue.
Is Herman Cain perceived as that big of threat? For being just a flash in the pan candidate, allot of money and time, and effort is being paid to make sure he isn't the Republican nomination.
Another question that should be asked is, Allred doesn't work for peanuts, who is signing her checks, the accuser sure as hell isn't. So who is the money man?

oldfart| 11.7.11 @ 10:49AM

They are scared 'shi__ess' of him. They being the Democratic establishment.

Wayne| 11.7.11 @ 12:37PM

I wish it were just the Democratic establishment.

irish19| 11.7.11 @ 1:17PM

Yup.

Drunken Sailor| 11.7.11 @ 12:05PM

Anyone represented by Gloria Allred is not to be taken seriously. She is the Rev. Jackson/Sharpton of the legal crowd. It's all about face time and $

jpelligrino| 11.8.11 @ 1:47AM

the DNC and George Soros with moveon.org, the commmitte to reelect the president.

Who Knows?| 11.7.11 @ 10:43AM

Cain is caning HIMSELF---he’s NOT “able”.

At least the author of this article noticed that Jennifer Rubin “wrote his obituary”, and horrors, she writes for the dreaded enemy, the Washington Post.

Oh, but wait---as a fan of Ms. Rubin’s observations and analyses since I discovered her at the Commentary magazine contentions blog, allow me to offer my revision of his cute distortions. One, she didn’t write his obituary---she has been simply paying attention to the news about all the presidential contenders, and providing her OPINIONS.

Now, in my own OPINION, she’s someone we’d all better start to pay more attention to, because there are few people who let the facts speak for themselves, to the extent she does. Just you wait, Henry Higgins---before 2013, Ms. Rubin will start to become as well know and respected as Charles Krauthammer.

As for Cain---he IS toast.

If any obituaries are being written, Herman is the author---he is a self-made man.

Watch him as he NOW un-makes himself!

oldfart| 11.7.11 @ 10:50AM

Are you holding your breath?

Who Knows?| 11.7.11 @ 11:08AM

Breathe deep, the gathering gloom,

because the intake of oxygen will before long

transform oldfart into an old fart.

Are you breathing?

oldfart| 11.7.11 @ 11:10AM

Nice try but no cigar.

Bydand76| 11.7.11 @ 2:28PM

Thats what Monica Lewinsky should have said!

(sorry, I could not resist......)

jpelligrino| 11.8.11 @ 1:48AM

Were you at Woodstock?

George S| 11.7.11 @ 10:54AM

This is confusing. During the election, Cain's position on TARP, abortion, bailout and foreign policy will cause a dearth of goodwill from conservatives. Yet the candidate who is most similar to Obama (Mandate Mitt) will have love and adulation from the same?

The reason Cain even got his foot in the door is because of Obama and the suspicion towards Romney. Any other point in history, Cain would have never made it to the first debate. The fact that Cain is still standing goes to show that the primary focus is not just beating Obama but reversing Obama. Everyone's gut tells them only Cain will be able to accomplish that. All the other candidates were weaned on the system and will comfortably ride along with it. That is no longer acceptable.

Darcy| 11.7.11 @ 11:29AM

Please, have mercy. No more Cain puns.

John C.| 11.7.11 @ 11:48AM

Herman in a recent debate absolved Wall Street and the banksters from the original banking financial collapse and solely blamed Washington. I guess Herman doesn’t realize that Goldman Sachs and their like own Washington, and TARP was a bailout of these gambling intuitions that screw Main Street America at every turn.

As an ex Fed guy Herman’s sympathies are with the banking elite and Helicopter Ben -- he is no We-the-People conservative. Only problem is neither are any of the other candidates posing as conservatives, especially Romney. We are in big trouble.

Simon Templar| 11.7.11 @ 12:14PM

Why is it you can not hold two thoughts in your head at once?

First, the banking and financial collaspe WAS caused by the federal government through three trillion in risky mortaged loans that were forced on bank to make over a thirty year period. Second, yes, Wall Street does indeed "own" a lot of influence with the fed government and the banks are tied into the same federal banking system.

It is that same corrupt government that decided to give the bailouts not just to them but the car companies. TARP was a COVERUP for government culpablity and an attempt to fix the problem they created in the first place. Apparently, you know nothing about business nor have ever heard the concept of risk. Every business venture and investment is a gamble. The people actually doing the screwing of main street is your politician and federal government who does the really wreckless gambling with your money to insure and buy voting blocks and power. IT invites those loyal to feed at its trough.

Bumr50| 11.7.11 @ 11:59AM

"Now, in my own OPINION, she’s someone we’d all better start to pay more attention to, because there are few people who let the facts speak for themselves, to the extent she does. Just you wait, Henry Higgins---before 2013, Ms. Rubin will start to become as well know and respected as Charles Krauthammer."

Charles Krauthammer was wrong about the Tea Party, wrong about Reagan, and is a beltway elitist that is just as un=mcortable that the game is changing as the rest.

Let him and Bill Kristol (LOL!) sip on some cognac and lament the demise of the neocon-Bushie era, and fade into history as failed policy wonks.

Simon Templar| 11.7.11 @ 12:02PM

Antle writes, " Professional conservatives, worried about disaster next year, could try to tear him down, only to diminish their own authenticity in the eyes of the conservative grassroots."

Antle when I read this I nearly fell out of my chair. Maybe, you could start by explaining to us what exactly is a professional conservative? Then explain to us exactly what a conservative, professional, is doing TEARING DOWN conservative candidates. Then, perhaps an explanation as to why they would do so based on exactly what...the smears, lies, and attacks of the opposition? You then appear to imply that the grassroots would be angered and you would lose credibility as if this is a surprise or an unfortunate side effect.

This one paragraph of yours is incredibly revealing. It is EXACTLY why conservativism will fail to save this nation from socialistic creep and eventual takeover.

My god, who needs progressive enemies, when you got "conservative" friends like you and your beltway pals and establishment RINO's.

The facts and circumstances surrounding these accusations have been a complete media circus and public kangaroo court of public smear and slander. You and your pals have not reported ALL of the story nor any of the deatils that keep coming out. Like the FACT that the third jackass accuser was OFFERED out of the gag contract but her lawyer and her decided to not come forward and speak after all. Now, since your article Friday, another fourth accuser has just SUDDENLY popped up this Monday morning willing to talk to the Queen Bit$#ch of Scandal on national TV. Wow. Are we conservatives really as stupid as liberals say we are?

Got balls? Should be the GOP motto.
It really was an divine act that Ronald Reagan got elected and proof that there must be a God. It certainly had nothing to do with you fools.

Bill| 11.7.11 @ 12:40PM

Herman Cain is the savior in 2012, let's check the facts; he is for gun-control, pro-choice, pro-bailout, pro-union, and so on......... Electing Cain to the GOP nomination to take down Obama will be a colossal mistake, we not only could lose the election but as well the conservative basin-the great South. I remember in an interview with Shawn Hannity back in August, Cain accused America for racism and blames on conservatives. Cain is NO conservative, he is a RINO, is a complete disaster. Defeating Cain and electing Gov. Rick Perry will ensure our chances to take back America for good.

martin j smith| 11.7.11 @ 12:45PM

Anyone with a fraction of a brain knows that the Socialists want to destroy Cain and every other Republican nominee. Cain's major crime is that he is Conservative and Black.
So since we already know this, why should Politico and the NYT stories not be viewed with high skepticism. ? Any why should we believe any one coming forward since we know the agenda.

Bill| 11.7.11 @ 1:30PM

Herman Cain is a certified RINO, he is for gun-control, pro-choice, pro-tax, and pro-union. His job is to sabotage the conservative movement and help elect Barack Obama. Cain is a fraud and loser. Cain and Obama should be defeated

Drunken Sailor| 11.7.11 @ 2:00PM

Your a idiot. Everything your stating has been proven false before, but hey don't let that stopping your little rant.

John C.| 11.7.11 @ 12:52PM

Simon

I agree that the federal government is to blame for the banking collapse but so are the complicit gambling bankers. They were not forced to package these bogus securities and many conservative and honest corner banks did not do so or issue sub prime loans.

Banks are the one institution that needs to be strictly regulated – they hold sacred money. Strict banking laws are conservative, whereas little or no banking laws are liberal. The Glass-Stegal wall needs to be reinstituted that once separated conservative corner banks from the risky investment institutions.

Herman Cain should know this and not excuse the go-go bankers that screamed for a bailout after rolling dice and making billions for many years.

Simon Templar| 11.7.11 @ 1:35PM

John,

Where do you get this idea that bankers were complicit and were not forced? Every article, interview, and refernce that I have come across has confirmed that there was indeed coercion and consequnences if you resisted making these loans.

Furthermore, think about it for one second. Why would a bank do something like make a very high risk loan to a client they know can not pay it back? When you apply fo a loan all your credit history, assets, debts, and ability to pay is collected and associate with this loan. The banks make money on the interest rates on this loan. Use some logic and what little you may know about being greedy and wanting to make money. Does that fit with giving huge numbers of high risk loans with you, the bankers, money?

How did these rules and requirements become so lax and liberalized then? Because the FED via Fannie and Freddie and the community revitalization act put federal pressure on the banks to give them. They promised to back them if there were any issues. Who was behind this, the Democrats. This is a fact.

Making billions? They lost billions! They damn well wanted reimbursement for pushing them to make them in the first place. No one was rolling dice here. I suggest you take a few business courses and educate yourself in the basics of business, finance, and how the real world actually works.

Kingofthenet| 11.7.11 @ 3:05PM

Simon as always you have NO idea what your talking about; "Why would a bank do something like make a very high risk loan to a client they know can not pay it back?"
Here is the REAL reason, because they didn't plan on OWNING the loan, they where going to make the loan, slice and dice it with other loans, package it up and sell them as 'Collateriazed Mortgage Obligations', but at some point they ACTUALLY started to believe those ticking time-bombs were ok to sit on and not get rid of like a hot potato they were. Than they exploded in the banks faces.

Simon Templar| 11.7.11 @ 6:16PM

Once again you show your complete ignorance of the real world, let alone business. This practice of bundling investments, debts can be sold as investments, is an old practice of spreading risk and making an investment more attractive to buyers, there is nothing illegal or unusual about this. You see this in mutual funds, and tons of other investment instruments. You contradicted yourself as well..I will let you figure out, if you can, what this contradiction was....any conservative here as more brains in their little finger and most likely saw it immediatley.

In fact, it is a very rational form of finance. Many banks DID in fact OWN these loans, others were sold like all mortgages, bundled or not. No, many banks did not expect or see coming the EXTENT of the crisis and the extent of damage or liability as each sees the world from their vantage point and position. You conveniently ignored, like you always do, the fact that they were given assurances from the feds as well as threats if they did not go along with the program.

One of the things that till this day stuns and stumps me is how liberals like yourself can so arrogantly talk about things that they do not have any education in or know the least about. You do not care as well. In my youth as a flaming liberal, I did not even do this but often would double check and look things up. That is probably why I ended up a conservative.

skip| 11.8.11 @ 1:02PM

Simon Simon Simon,

What the Three Asswipos Kingofthenet, DRed, and Jack London are trying to explain to you, with intellectually honest reason and experience devoid of emotional prattle, is that the 'chicken crossing the road' (financial industry collateralized obligations, subprimes, derivatives, etc.) caused the financial mess, and that the 'chicken' itself (government mandated Community Reinvestment Act) is irrelevant. Asking 'why' the 'chicken' 'crossed the road' is just silly nonsense, but if you insist on doing so then whether the 'chicken' (financial industry creative solutions to mandatory CRA government extortion sanctioned by government) or the 'egg' (mandatory CRA government extortion of financial industry defying all economic reality) came first is just even more silly nonsense. Just know that not only is the 'road' (mandatory government extortion defying all economic reality sanctioning financial industry attempts at survival much less continued existence) above reproach, it needs to be widened from two lanes to six. Or eight.

Jack London| 11.7.11 @ 3:05PM

This is nonsense. If you really want to rewrite history you'd be better off writing a novel. You have a scary lack of understanding of the crisis – it's like you live in some kind of parallel universe where all facts are inverted.

DRed| 11.7.11 @ 3:25PM

It's almost as if Simon has no idea what he's talking about.

Jack London| 11.7.11 @ 3:36PM

Can I just add that Mr Templar doesn't know what he's talking about.

Simon Templar| 11.7.11 @ 6:24PM

You two liberal jackasses come out to this conservative website and make up as much mischief, deception, and lies you can muster and you tell me, I do not know what I am talking about? Incredible. Neither one of you have any business education and doubt if you ever worked in a profit setting, but you are going to lecture me.

LOL. Then, even more ridiculous, you pretend like you NEVER heard this so-called history or explanation of this crisis as if it were from another planet. Right now, there are probably twenty books on the shelf at your local book store outlining just this by leading economist and writers. You are actually worse than Alan Brooks, he has a better sense of humor and even he does not pull that lame shit.

I hope this is not a job because you are both lame and don't even troll well.

skip| 11.7.11 @ 7:16PM

John C.

Economic economists, as opposed to political economists including Nobel Prize winning political economists like Paul Krugman -who could very well lose an economic debate against The Three Asswipos Kingofthenet, DRed, and Jack London (see below) - are in significant agreement that the deregulation of the Glass-Steagall Act reduced the severity of the effects of the housing bubble burst, that the adverse economic effects of the burst housing bubble would have been worse if that act had not been repealed.

You posted about the evils of Wall Street with no mention of Government, which begs the question why you did not until called out by Simon Templar, who below dispatched the exalted trio mentioned above with ease. Post with caution lest you become the fourth joining these thoroughly ridiculed idiots.

skip| 11.7.11 @ 7:22PM

Oops - The Three Asswipos referenced are 'above'. Their intelligence and their honesty will likely always be 'below' acceptability, however, barring some as yet unforeseen miracle.

Bill| 11.7.11 @ 1:32PM

Herman Cain means big government, more taxes, more regulations, planned parenthood, and sexual harassment.

mike mccoy | 11.7.11 @ 2:11PM

In Herman Cain, we were looking for Dr. Jekyll but got Mr. Hyde.

jane | 11.7.11 @ 2:19PM

All the stone throwing aside, I would agree that whom ever, we the people vote into office, a national tax will be on their agenda!

Kingofthenet| 11.7.11 @ 2:42PM

OK, I just saw Sharon Bialek, one of his accusers and she makes allegations that if true, weren't 'sexual harassment' but Sexual assault...Oh and she is a Knockout Blonde...

Drunken Sailor| 11.7.11 @ 2:47PM

And she never pressed charges and still refuses to. Hell in her own words she didn't even slap him for grabbing her crotch. Nope, no alterior motive at work here, nothing to see, move along.

Drunken Sailor| 11.7.11 @ 3:04PM

Really need spell check, should be Ulterior motive

Kingofthenet| 11.7.11 @ 3:07PM

Use Firefox it's a lifesaver(SpellSaver anyway)

Jack London| 11.7.11 @ 3:40PM

Nothing to see? Looks like Cain had other ideas. Perhaps as head of the restaurant association he was trying to get his just 'desserts'.

And by the way, if every woman pressed charges for things like that our courts would be full for ever and a day. Sadly, those with power get away with an awful lot.

Drunken Sailor| 11.7.11 @ 4:04PM

Maybe so but most women would have at least slapped the man. Apparently she did not.

BackToBasics| 11.7.11 @ 2:46PM

It took more than one week for the 4th woman to come forward so that she could have time to rehearse the script that was presented to her. Even now, her voice hesitated often when she spoke as if the facts were made up.

The 4th woman was revealed because the first 3 phantoms didn't do the trick. If he stays up in the polls, look for a 5th woman to speak up and another house paid for.

Simon Templar| 11.7.11 @ 3:01PM

Exactly. Thank God for people like you that have eyes that can see.

Simon Templar| 11.7.11 @ 2:52PM

Mr. Cain came by our farm house and asked Pappy if he could sleep in the barn. Pappy said, "sure, but don't touch my fine looking daughter."

Now, he seemed real nice and I took a liking to him right away. I asked him if he could help me milk the cows before my boyfriend, Jake, came over so I could go out with him. Well, you know, he said yes and we went into that barn and oh, my, he said if I am going to milk them cows then I expect a little sugar to go with that'a milkin.
He then grabbed my large breast and proceeded to compromisin my womanhood. I screamed no, and ran out to tell pappy but gave him no details, just said that Cain offended me. He got his shot gun and chased that Cain off. Never told anyone else about what actually happened fourteen years ago until I got this call from this city slicking lady from the big city yesterday since dis Cain is now runnin for President. She said I could make a lot of money and get my picture on TV. I said heck yes, what you want me to say.

Like that tale? Did I ever tell ya the one about...?

Simon Templar| 11.7.11 @ 2:57PM

She may as well have told my version, it sounded as ridiculous, made up, lame, unrealistic, and cliche as anyone could come up with that has very little imagination or reality. Absolutely ridiculous. It is really now time to investigate this person and uncover the scam. I be willing to donate a hundred dollars for an investigation.
This shit has to stop. This is truly getting absurd.

Kingofthenet| 11.7.11 @ 2:59PM

Apperently Herman was trying to put her under a 'Gag order' of a different kind...

Simon Templar| 11.7.11 @ 3:10PM

Apparently you are lying idiot that thinks he cute, smarmy, and clever.

Her story is falling apart already within a few hours. She never worked for the NRA.

According to NOW and Clintons, this would not meet the sexual harrassment criteria even if this ridiculous story were true.

Do you konw the difference between a republican scandal and a democrat scandal?

In a republican scandal, the accusers needs no proof and the candidate needs to prove innocence.

In a democratic scandal, the accusers have video, images, emails, signed affidavits and the candidate still has to be proven guilty, denies the charges, and seeks reelection.

Nick| 11.7.11 @ 3:16PM

Sorry, but, bleeding-heart liberals can't comment on this subject, Kook of the Net.
Because you guys defended the perverted rapist, Bubba Clinton, for over eight years.

Nobody cares what you moral degenerates have to say.

BackToBasics| 11.7.11 @ 3:03PM

And to close this case and get Cain to drop out, the "National Enquirer" will make allegations from an anonymous female space alien that Cain is so bad that he even hit on her.

Simon Templar| 11.7.11 @ 3:12PM

Yeah, and do not forget the love child produced from this alien and human union.

BackToBasics| 11.7.11 @ 7:29PM

What bothers me almost as much as these spurious allegations is how many so-called Republicans, even on this site, have never liked him and are glad this is happening.

The Republican Establishment or RINOs are worse than the Democrats this time around because they are working hard behind the scenes to sacrifice decent Republican candidates who wanted to help their beloved country.

Ross Kaminsky a couple weeks back on AS told us to relax, it was only the beginning. The Repub Establishment isn't relaxing to undo Cain.

Simon Templar| 11.7.11 @ 11:35PM

BTB, Excellent points and observations.

skip| 11.8.11 @ 1:15AM

'National Enquirer' broke the John Edwards story when no one else did. Substitute 'National Enquirer', because of this actual bit of journalism, for 'New York Times', which doesn't even bother to pretend anymore and is worse than 'National Enquirer' used to be.

martin j smith| 11.7.11 @ 3:28PM

You would think there is not a political motivation to set up smears in a presidential campaign from what this post is saying. Again there are at least two--The Socialists will smear every Republican. The Establishment Republicans will work with the Socialists against Cain ( Tea Party ) because it serves their interests which are mutual. So here is the point: anyone even some one who has a name and a face can come forward with an accusation with no proof --no documentation or court activity. So it is up the accused to "
prove" their innocence in the court of public opinion. That scenario gives the Socialists carte blanche to chose our candidate and knock them all out. That is how I see it.

Bill| 11.7.11 @ 3:43PM

Herman Cain has committed a crime, he must confess and bow out from the GOP presidential field as soon as possible.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.10.11 @ 12:06AM

This "made-up" scandal started in the 1990's, for heck's sake ! No one is making this up in 2011 - Mr. Cain KNEW this was in his past when he said "there are no skeletons in Herman Cain's closet". NO Republican candidate for President has ever been accused of this in the past. Your claim that some "Establishment Republicans" will work with Socialists to destroy Mr. Cain is more than silly - it is pathetically paranoid, and unworthy of any serious reply - it puts you up there with the 9/11 whackos who claim that Republicans blew up the twin towers and the Pentagon !

Bill| 11.7.11 @ 3:39PM

As predicted before, after the accusation made by Sharon Bialek, Herman Cain is no longer a viable candidate, he is done, he is a dead man walking. Cain now can go back to his well deserved retirement.

Drunken Sailor| 11.7.11 @ 4:22PM

Apparently some people did not get the "Cain is toast" memo.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/150.....m_term=All Gallup Headlines - Politics

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.7.11 @ 4:25PM

Rick Perry speech highlights in New Hampshire at a fund-raiser.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf3u25PHCqc

longer memory| 11.7.11 @ 4:41PM

9-9-9 notwithstanding, if Cain survives the attack of the scum-of-the-earth Gloria Allred, feminist protector of those flowers of young womanhood, the housekeeper who slept with Maria Shriver's husband under her own roof and the bimbo who was dating Scott - how soon we forget last names- the killer of wife Lacey and the unborn Connor, and countless other pure-as-the-driven-slush maidens , he has my vote.

This one today said, on camera, " I said to him, "Mr. Cain, don't you know I have a boyfriend?" What are we to conclude from that? If she didn't have a boyfriend she might very well accept his advances, even though she knew him to be a married man? No reporter asked her that question. Why am I not surprised?

Conjecture has already begun. If Cain is driven out who will get his votes, the sanctimonious Santorum or the serial trifler, New Gingrich? If it has come to squeaky clean morals and that is the only yardstick - we are left with Crazy Eyes Bachmann or Mitt whose only sin is the same as one of Saddam's - excessive black hair dye.

longer memory| 11.7.11 @ 4:57PM

Read GAME CHANGE. Mark Halperin and co-author knew every detail of John Edward's affair/ baby - - before he was tapped for VP. They held the salacious details for their book. They were probably ticked because National Enquirer scored a beat on them.

Evan Thomas wrote an after-the-election book about John Kerry that portrays Kerry in a very unflattering way - the tantrum he had over his hair combing guy's losing his hair brush, his pathetic clinging to a (purported) "hand-written" note from a little girl who was sad that he didn't get elected president. Thomas never reported along the campaign trail that Theresa was a harridan or Kerry had an uncommon emotional attachment for his hairbrush, which caused him meltdown, if lost.

I saw the wronged woman on TV a few minutes ago. I've seen better looking hostesses at Denny's Restaurants on the outskirts of Bakersfield. If I faulted Cain for anything, it would be for low taste in women.

somnolence| 11.7.11 @ 5:11PM

That's why all these stories are incredibly invalid. None of the "ladies" in question are his type. The polls reflect the approval of his good sense in this regard.

somnolence| 11.7.11 @ 5:12PM

I wish he would echo Lord Horatio Nelson, who replied to a lady in question, "Sue, and be damned."

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.7.11 @ 5:14PM

Heh...
"De black guys are comin after our white women. The black guys are comin after our white women."

Grab your pop-corn folks. Perry is accused of being drunk for his speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf3u25PHCqc

Mr. Cain is being accused of being a black horn-dog.

Well, I am hereby accusing Mr. Obama of being a mass murderor and communist, (pardon the redundancy), and Obama owns the FBI these days.
So where do we go from here?

somnolence| 11.7.11 @ 5:16PM

Anybody who says or even implies Cain couldn't win the South is(or should be) certifiably insane.

somnolence| 11.7.11 @ 5:21PM

I resolved the first day the "story" broke that I would retract my previous stance and not vote for Romney or Perry if they become the nominee due in large part to Cain being undermined by all this. I haven't changed my mind. Two weeks ago I would have said I would support "the nominee". That now can be interpreted as no support for Paul, Romney, Perry, or Huntsman. No support whatsoever, under ANY circumstances.

somnolence| 11.7.11 @ 5:31PM

So, when will "junior" be trotted out as a "love child"? I don't think I can yawn much more.

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.7.11 @ 5:45PM

Well Somnolence,
I figure the campaign can survive without your Twenty dollar contribution.

We truly do need to continue measuring our candidates and making our bestest decision on our votes.
Sadly, Mr. Cain hasn't shown he can win a campaign. Conversely, Mr. Perry does know how and has done so. Just a thought.

somnolence| 11.7.11 @ 5:58PM

I wasn't talking about any monetary contribution, Ken. I'm talking about withholding my VOTE period. I might be one of millions doing so. So far, I don't see many of the GOP higher ups(only conservative commentator on radio) coming to Cain's defense. Perry won't get my vote, and neither will Romney as I said before. The Cain hatchet job and obvious goal of rubbing him out will backfire in my case, and I'm sure untold numbers of others equally P.O.'d at RINO shenanigans. How these Cain allegations affect the future economic and domestic future of the country is beyond me. Clinton and Kennedy set the precedence for all this long ago, as did others, such as Wilson, Harding, FDR, and Ike(some were valid, others hearsay). Cain is not a politician, and that is part of his allure and why he is doing well. It makes no difference to me that he has only run in one campaign before.

VBMax| 11.7.11 @ 6:46PM

Refusing to vote is giving aid and comfort to Obama. That is, in a word, treasonous.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.10.11 @ 12:21AM

Maybe no one is coming to his defense because he hasn't apologized for misleading America - remember, he said "there are no skeletons in Herman Cain's closet" when he darn well knew there were. As for this being a Republican plot, it all started in the 90's ! When has any other Republican candidate EVER been accused of sexual harrassment? History says that it is MUCH more likely that he is a serial harrasser than an innocent man. After all, how many executives have you heard of who have TWO harrassment charges filed against them? Finally, he has been running in 2000, 2004 and now again - he WANTS to be a politician, since he already been a big-time lobbyist !

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.7.11 @ 6:19PM

Somnolence,
good pen-name.
Are you even aware of the internal contradictions in your last post?

Just out of curiosity, why do you write off Perry?

Finally though, I am in the ABO school. Anybody but Obama and the communists.

Simon Templar| 11.7.11 @ 6:32PM

That is exactly the problem here. Everyone is too eager and manipulated into writing off these candidates, whether it is Perry, Cain, Gingrich, or any of the leading conservatives.

It really is an amazing level of irrationality, self destruction, and just plain stupidity. I wonder who will be the next that gets the "rock with a name on it, who painted it over?" hung around his neck? Since Perry has undergone this, he is up for some sexual harassment allegations that have a non-sexual manner to them....

Patriot4Freedom| 11.10.11 @ 12:42AM

Somebody HAS to find a way to reason with these Republicans who believe in "Elect my guy, or I'm not going to vote at all" - or "Elect my guy, or I'm going to vote for the Democrat."
That kind of craziness has to STOP !
That only leads to another four years of Obama doing untold more damage to the country we love.
Think about it . . .
If a car dealer didn't have the car you wanted in the color you wanted, you wouldn't decide to buy a boat , would you ?
If the market didn't have the steak you wanted to have for dinner, you wouldn't decide to have the rat poison, would you ?
If the new church you tried out didn't say the Lord's Prayer the way you wanted, you wouldn't decide to attend the Islamic mosque, would you ?

Then WHY THE H*LL would you refuse to vote ?
Or even worse, vote for Obama ? ? ?

Bob Grant| 11.7.11 @ 7:53PM

Why does she write off Perry? ....My guess is she's from Texas and is wise to him.

Let me flip the question and ask:

Why are you in awe of him?

Ken (Old Texican)| 11.7.11 @ 9:04PM

Bob,
I respect Perry. He ain't so great at one liners, but he ain't crooked or an adulteror or a wimp.
KMA (kiss my you-know-what)

skip| 11.8.11 @ 5:22PM

Bob,

Of the '57' governors, each governing their state, which of the other '56' have economic results as good as or better than Perry, and is also running?

The nation elected an incompetent liar with no experience. We are in a mess. We need experience and proven results from the next electee. Which candidate, republican (or democrat for that matter) has more experience and proven results than Perry, and has bona fide conservative credentials to boot?

Who Knows| 11.7.11 @ 6:39PM

Cain is toast.

Just think about this---

IF it is true that he has acted like Bill Clinton with the FOUR women who have to date been identified, mightn't it be true that there are many more?

AND---IF all this is true, either Herman blocked the memories of these "affairs", or he thought he could expose himself in his run for president and keep it all hidden.

I think it all probably happened, AND his tossing of the hat in the ring was NOT expected to be more than a lark, at best yielding him a TV gig or book sales---in short, it was for MONEY.

Who knew---not Herman!!!---that in this election, the field would be so dissipated and full of people with fatal flaws, that the not-Romney spot would be Cain's for the taking?

I just saw an ad in National Review magazine with a picture of Eisenhower, quoting him about how INTEGRITY is the sine qua non of politics, and, indeed, of an honorable and moral life.

Integrity---WHOLE, ONE.

Be careful what you ask for!

White men can't jump.

What about black men?

BackToBasics| 11.7.11 @ 7:19PM

If any of it really happened it could be that they are cases of spurned women who sought revenge in the past or are seeking it now. How are we to know if they do not come forth or read from a script?

Todd Powers| 11.7.11 @ 8:26PM

Why do all these women wind up with gloria Aldred? Stick it out Herman!!! I don't believe any of it.

VBMax| 11.8.11 @ 7:54AM

Apparently, the complaint is that Herman did "stick it out".

crooked wren| 11.7.11 @ 6:58PM

Doesn't cost these women anything to whisper nasty things about Herman Cain. Maybe they're telling the truth. I don't know for sure. But it seems particularly horrifying that a man's campaign can be destroyed by unproven and unsubstantiated accusations of sexual misconduct.

A woman was made to feel "uncomfortable." Then a woman from Chicago -- in league with Gloria Allred (who enjoyed bringing down Meg Whitman) -- comes forward and makes another nasty claim.

If she's telling the truth, then why Gloria Allred?

Character assassination.

And there's Krauthammer and Goldberg saying Cain's candidacy is a goner.

Florida's establishment Republicans are thrilled. They want Mitt. End of story.

I'm FED UP. FED UP. FED FED FED UP.

Clinton WAS a sexual predator. Proven. Substantiated. He EVEN LIED UNDER OATH about it -- and later ADMITTED it.

And Clinton is a "statesman."

Honest-to-Pete.

I AM FED UP.

somnolence| 11.7.11 @ 7:04PM

Oh, how carelessly the word "treasonous" is thrown around these days. The actions of RINOS like Romney and Perry approach treason at times far more than my satisfied conscience if I have to utilize my action of not voting at all. My vote is priceless, and is not for sale for you or anyone else, pal. Rest assured I sleep with good conscience and a smile on my face if I don't vote for the aforementioned. I owe allegiance to ONE, and his initials are J.C.

VBMax| 11.7.11 @ 8:25PM

Fine, sir. And if sometime in the future your children or grandchildren ask you why they are being persecuted as Christians in America, you'll be able to explain it.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.10.11 @ 12:53AM

Somebody HAS to find a way to reason with these Republicans who believe in "Elect my guy, or I'm not going to vote at all" - or "Elect my guy, or I'm going to vote for the Democrat."
That kind of craziness has to STOP !
That only leads to another four years of Obama doing untold more damage to the country we love.
Think about it . . .
If a car dealer didn't have the car you wanted in the color you wanted, you wouldn't decide to buy a boat, would you ?
If the market didn't have the steak you wanted to have for dinner, you wouldn't decide to have the rat poison, would you ?
If the new church you tried out didn't say the Lord's Prayer the way you wanted, you wouldn't decide to attend the Islamic mosque, would you ?

Then WHY THE H*LL would you refuse to vote ?
Or even worse, vote for Obama ? ? ?

longer memory| 11.7.11 @ 7:30PM

CROOKED WREN - Why would anything Jonah Goldberg says or writes have any currency with you? He is the reason I an letting my NR subscription expire. Think of the first time you ever heard of him....when mama Lucianne was sitting in every guest seat on TV that invited her - I believe she was one of the gnomes, along with Ann Coulter in the Monica thing.

Jonah is the reason we keep asking the question: why are there so many more horse's asses than there are horses?

Patriot4Freedom| 11.9.11 @ 6:10AM

Maybe because he was writing some of the most intelligent, critical analyses of Obama's history and shortcomings during the 2008 campaign. He saw through Obama early on, and tried to warn America. He has a proven record of competency, wit, and an intelligent, analytical mind. That's more than enough for me to be willing to consider what he says. To write him off with your dismissive criticism simply because you disagree with his position is rather immature.

longer memory| 11.7.11 @ 7:42PM

If you doubt me, regarding Jonah's non-existent bona fides, Google his resume. Graduated from a (formerly) girl's college in 1991 (good choice - no P.E. for the fat kid)

A telling paragraph, Goldberg's career as "pundit" was launched after his mother, Lucianne's role in the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

Pundit (pandit) in India means scholar or expert. In the United States it means less than nothing. I'm a pundit, you're a pundit - all the world's a pundit.

Bob Grant| 11.7.11 @ 10:05PM

No it's not. All the World's a stage.

A real pundit would know this.

somnolence| 11.7.11 @ 11:43PM

My children or grandchildren would be like me as they wouldn't tolerate being persecuted because they were Christians. They would be taught to fight back, viciously if need be, in the art of self-defense, and be taught 'tis noble to die for freedom's vitality and freedom's gain. This persecution of Cain is just another sign of creeping, diminishing freedom, just like the odious airport patdowns and scanners. Now, tell me, are we really free as our forefathers were after sweet victory over King George? If you say yes, you are as blind as dead man's dirt. There are even complaints if you set up a rig or trap to keep your property from being vandalized. And you dare to tell me Obama alone is responsible for vanishing freedom? Get lost.

VBMax| 11.8.11 @ 8:07AM

Nope, not getting lost just yet...
Didn't forsee that I'd have to explain how important the next election will be.
For starters:
1) Every Repub candidate has promised to repeal Obamacare if elected. Obama has veto power.
2) Justice Kennedy is waiting until after the election to retire. One more Obama appointment to the court gives a progressive majority.
ABO buys us another 4 years to organize the conservative/patriot movement and to form a viable 3rd party if necessary. Obama gets re-elected, well it's sky's-the-limit. Remember you're electing not just a president, but an entire administration for another 4 years.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.9.11 @ 6:15AM

Thanks for trying to speak sense to idiocy !

longer memory| 11.8.11 @ 12:28AM

This bleached blonde Joan of Arc is not really coming forth to skewer Herman Cain for vengeance for herself. She is "speaking for those who wish to but can't." And she brought that Viper as her legal counsel.

Here is a golden opportunity for Herman Cain to get himself a fat contribution - - if she is not currently mired in another bankruptcy. He can sue her.

Check the date of this woman's alleged humiliation. If she had wanted to stop him in his political tracks, she could have done it when the running for Georgia Senate for Zell Miller's vacated seat. (check date of that campaign and election)

She is being put forward to put a stick in the gears of the Cain campaign, when it matters more.

Probably in this woman's life there have been so many men, she has run out of Rolodex pages and it was only through the Chicago political machine tacking down every woman who ever worked for NRA, they found her and reminded her she might have been accosted. And she said, "Tell me what accosted means and I will tell you if I was." Maybe she only looks like a bimbo - Gloria , in her preamble set up, tells us she is a college graduate and a single mom.Aw-w-w-, Single Mom, that badge of honor for the woman who can't make the guy stick around.

I read somewhere one of her bankruptcy filings occurred right after her husband had filed a paternity suit against her. Does this mean she lost the suit and had to pay a settlement? I guess we will have to wait for Andrew Breitbart to answer that for us - -

The sanctimonious declaration that she is not seeking money probably means she has already gotten it - from another source.

somnolence| 11.8.11 @ 12:36AM

Herman Cain should use the press conference tomorrow to throw the fear of God into her by hinting at a law suit. I guess these "ladies" can either produce proof or shut up. This latest one to surface looks like a real winner, lol, with the ties to Axelrod, playing the field, etc. That is the only language someone like Allred could possibly understand; someone who can intimidate as loudly and brashly as she can. Cain has nothing to lose by doing so.

longer memory| 11.8.11 @ 1:42AM

I read the demure Ms. B. lives in a suburb of Chicago with "her fiance". Is that French for shack-up? "My fiance du jour."

POST American| 11.8.11 @ 3:04AM

-------------------BOTTOM LINE-----------------------

An 'Able Cain' as Globalist 'Cain-Abelism',
er, we meant cannabalism, and destruction
of ALLLLL that was, surges forward.

-------------WORD PLAY PERFECTION!------------

longer memory| 11.8.11 @ 3:53AM

Well, Goldilocks Biatek got her just desserts in Politico. They referred to her as a MIDDLE AGED SINGLE MOM.

She has a winning smile - - - right in the middle of a loser's face.

I had a colorful Oklahoma friend who would describe her as looking like the was was "rode hard and put away wet."

Politico's latest pathetic story is Cain ordered two $400 bottles of wine and then stiffed everyone on the check.

Well, that settles it, we certainly don't want a cheapskate in the White House. Clinton's BJs - - Obama' cluelessness we can tolerate, but not someone who can't bend his arm to find his wallet.

longer memory| 11.8.11 @ 3:59AM

Where is that Journalists' Code of Ethics thingy? Is there any documentation supporting a serious charge of ordering wine and not paying for it? Could we subpoena the 40 year old Donna Donella or whatever the hell her name is and give her a polygraph test? How do we know if she is really only 40 years old? A woman who will lie about her age, will lie about anything.

shipley130| 11.8.11 @ 2:48PM

Yeah, able to put his hands where they don't belong.

ole meanie| 11.8.11 @ 4:59PM

No, he is not. He is done.

shipley130| 11.8.11 @ 10:13PM

I am one Tea Party type that is definitely not bonding with Cain.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.9.11 @ 6:18AM

Count me as another Tea Party supporter who cannot support Mr. Cain !

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