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Herman, We Hardly Knew Ye

By on 11.4.11 @ 6:08AM

What a difference a week can make on the character of a candidacy.

Only a week ago Herman Cain was riding high. Without even setting foot in Iowa, he was leading in the polls and creating new rules for the campaign — rules which said that not money, not party support, but character as perceived by the voters is what wins presidential elections. Even the press was starting to like him.

Now his campaign lies in a shambles. The sense of humor is gone and the headlines read, “Cain in testy exchange with reporters.” Not only is Cain a goner but his Nixonian response to the incident will probably bring down the entire Republican ticket as well. How can Obamacrats do anything but laugh at the spectacle of Cain blaming Perry and Perry blaming Cain and everybody else ducking for cover while the bonhomie of the debates that was just beginning to capture the attention of the nation goes down the drain. It was that same quality — character — that had raised Cain to unprecedented heights that quickly brought him down.

“It’s a witch hunt, a high-tech lynching. Someone is trying to destroy me!” comes the response from the supposedly even-tempered, good-natured pizza executive who wanted America to develop a sense of humor. WAKE UP HERMAN! This is an election! Of course someone is trying to destroy you. It was General Douglas Macarthur who said, “Primaries are worse than war. In war you fight your enemies, in primaries you fight your friends.” The object of an election is to destroy the other candidate in as civilized a manner as possible. There’s nothing new about that. Revelations are always going to come out — everybody’s got a past. It’s the way a candidate responds to them that determines whether you’re a winner or a loser.

Take a look at last week’s cover of New York magazine. It featured a 1980s photo of Mitt Romney with $20 bills ostentatiously hanging out of his suit jacket. The headline read, “Mitt Romney’s 1% Economy.” Can you imagine? SOMEONE IS TRYING TO DESTROY MITT ROMNEY! Is that anything to get upset about? Would it have helped if Romney went off on a tirade trying to determine who supplied New York with the picture? Herman Cain hasn’t been destroyed by liberals or Democrats or moles in the Perry’s campaign staff. Herman Cain destroyed himself.

Anyone who knows politics had been expecting something like this for weeks. There had to be an incident where he pinched a waitress in Burger King or something. When it happens, though — and it’s always going to happen — there are two simple rules:

1. Get everything out on the table yourself. Don’t wait for it to drip out from other sources. Nothing — repeat, nothing — can be kept from the press.

2. When the facts are out, admit it if you’ve done something wrong and apologize. Say you’re sorry. It won’t happen again. Now let’s go back to the issues.

Cain did neither and his staff was even worse. They’re mostly amateurs and campaign junkies with a bunker mentality. The on-air telephone exchange between J.D. Gordon, a former Navy commander who is Cain’s press liaison, and Fox commentator Geraldo Rivera was one of the worst of all time. Without even bothering to respond to the question of whether a complaint had ever occurred, Gordon went on a rant of how it was all a liberal plot — a tactic that has now been changed to say it is a Perry plot. Very presidential.

Had Cain played it right, the whole incident could have been a two-day sensation. After all, what’s at stake? Was there an illegitimate child around? A one-night stand? A groping? An attempted rape? Grover Cleveland went to the White House after it was discovered that he was supporting a mistress and a love child. (“Ma, ma, where’s my pa? Gone to the White House, ha, ha, ha.”) Jennifer Flowers had telephone tapes documenting her 12-year affair with Bill Clinton. Both went on to win election. Cain’s case was nothing more than an old-school guy caught up in the invisible lines and shifting codes of 1990s “sexual harassment.”

And there was his defense. All Cain had to do was admit he might have done something a little untoward and apologize. Something like this: “I’m an old school guy. I didn’t realize I was offending anyone. Back home where I go to church I can walk up to a pretty young woman in the choir and say, ‘My, you’re just as cute as a button’ and nobody will think I’m sexually harassing her. All this stuff was new to me and it took me awhile to learn the rules. But I haven’t acted that way in a long time and it won’t ever happen again. I’m sorry and I hope these women will forgive me.”

Of course Emily’s List and the Huffington Post would never accept this explanation, but who cares? This election isn’t going to be decided by Washington pundits. It’s going to be decided by the 41-year-old housewife in Peoria who might have been saying, “He’s really a nice man. I don’t think he meant any harm,” but is now saying to herself, “I don’t think I can trust this guy.”

It’s tragic that all this had to happen because now it means we’re going to have four more years of Obama. Cain was the only candidate who had a realistic chance of beating him. Now we’re going to get Romney who will be eviscerated by the press and the Democrats as a privileged child of wealth — which he is. That New York cover was just the start. Cain could have taken this argument and shoved it back in Obama’s face, unveiling him to be the condescending twerp he is. Now it’s not going to happen.

For want of a nail, a shoe was lost. For want of composure and a little sense of detachment, a whole era may have been lost.

About the Author

Green Lantern is the pen-name of an East Coast writer.

Letter to the Editor View all comments (389) |

Clinton| 11.4.11 @ 6:14AM

Craig Robinson at the highly respected Iowa Republican has written a brilliant piece on Herman "Anthony Weiner" Cain's problem and it is Herman "Anthony Weiner" Cain. I know it doesn't matter to the Cainites that he's blatant liar, they actually that makes him a better candidate, but those who want a decent person with some integrity to represent us should read this story.

http://theiowarepublican.com/2.....-to-blame/

Jack in Wi| 11.4.11 @ 6:55AM

Herman is qualified to be President. He is as big a liar and fraud as the The Bushes, Clinton, Obama, LBJ, Nixon, FDR, Truman, etc. The problem with Herm is he lied about a few personal pecadillos not huge policies which have damaged the country, and brought it too it's knees. Good riddence to Herm. It is time for an honest debate between the only 2 guys with a chance to beat Obama Ron Paul and Mitt Romney. They ran the best in several national polls before Herm was puffed by the elites. They are the only ones with the chance to get the huge numbers of independents necesary to elect a Republican President.

Now The country is in dire shape. Ron Paul has been right on the issues for decades. He is the only one advocating a real way out. The country is on the the verge of WW3. Romney is the best elite Candidate and Ron Paul has all the issues on his side. 70% want an end to foreign aid. 75% want the really geting an honest audit. most people were disgusted by the bailouts and TARP program. 75% want out of these wars now and not anther one in Iran. We need a long, honest and intelligent discussion on where this country is going. Then lets have the primary elections and see if we can bring the party and country together.

clarityrising| 11.4.11 @ 9:41AM

Looks like the Ronulan loons are out in force. And Romney? Wow, dude. Ron Paul hasn't been right on much of anything, including blaming 9-11 on the U.S. Please, please let this be you last election cycle where we hear the inanities and false prophetizing of these vacuous fools. When again he does not win the nomination, then please finally go away never to be heard from again!

Sean| 11.4.11 @ 10:00AM

Ron Paul was right about the dot com collapse and the housing bubble. That is more than we can say about Nitwit Romney and Cainiac. Ron Paul has never blamed the US for 9/11 so please educate yourself as you are coming across looking like an idiot.

chuck| 11.4.11 @ 1:47PM

Gee,
"Ron Paul was right about the dot com collapse and the housing bubble." Damn, who couldn't see that coming. Companies having no hope of being profitable with market-caps of billions, and houses being sold to people with no chance of paying for them. I guess I'm a genius too, maybe you can make me a "co-messiah" to sit at the right-hand of the messiah, his holiness, Dr. Paul.

And Paul insinuates that our involvement in the middle east was cause of 9/11.
Deal with it!

Mal_Content| 11.4.11 @ 2:25PM

"And Paul insinuates that our involvement in the middle east was cause of 9/11.
Deal with it!"

Actually chuck, it was the 9/11 Report that listed blowback as a possible cause of 9/11. Paul is just noting the CIA/US Government's own findings.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/.....rt_Ch4.pdf

Sean| 11.4.11 @ 2:32PM

"Damn, who couldn't see that coming"
- Cainiac and Nitwit couldn't see it coming.

ENOUGH ROPE| 11.4.11 @ 9:30PM

GREEN LANTERN?

GL wrote anonymously. Politico and the Marxist MSM claimed anonymous sources for scandalous charges against Herman Cain. In contrast, Clinton was charged by identified sources: Paula Jones (Clinton exposed himself and demanded fellatio), Kathleen Willey (groped by Clinton near the Oval Office), Juanita Broadderick (raped by Clinton). Clinton was found guilty of perjury by the Arkansas Supreme Court on January 19, 2001. He admitted that he made false statements under oath.
http://tvnz.co.nz/content/60413/425822.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,35470,00.html

So, Green Lantern, why are you willing to judge Cain guilty and unelectable based on anonymous charges and the manner in which Cain and his staff responded to the charges. Politico and you judged Cain the loser in a process that is akin to Cain being forced into a boxing match with an opponent who is the wind If you are sure of your judgement, why do you hide anonymously as Green Lantern? Tut, tut, GL, you are SOOOO courageous; you are SOOOO sure of the truth without evidence!

Jack in Wi| 11.4.11 @ 10:36PM

Chuckie: Ron Paul and Willard Romney run the best against Barach Obama in a compilation of polls as of October 31st. I have stated for weeks that it is down to Willard and Ron. They are the only ones with the following and money to get the job done. Willard if elected, will be more of the same. Ron Paul is the only one to have a plan to right this ship of state. Let Ron and Willard Romney have a long and civil debate and see if somehow we can bring this party together. If not Obama is back for another 4 years.

Ronnie| 11.5.11 @ 7:08AM

Just like liberals...when struck with the truth The Paulites still live in never never land where Ron Paul never does anything wrong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6E6kiCGiqk

Boar Hunter| 11.5.11 @ 1:40PM

Thanks for the link, gosh, I was so shocked to learn that Ron Paul is a friggin lunatic.

Clint| 11.6.11 @ 8:35AM

The Chairman Of The Bores.

Clint| 11.6.11 @ 8:33AM

Ronnie The Lib Uses Liberal Democrat Charlie Rangel To Attempt To Criticize Dr.Ron Paul.

Charlie Rangel,
"Meanwhile, our young men and women whose economic circumstances make military service a viable career choice are dying bravely in a war with no end in sight.”

Sean| 11.4.11 @ 9:57AM

These accusations better become public now. During the general election someone will pay these women so they can break their nondisclosure agreements. Big deal if they have to pay back 35k when someone will offer them 100k plus to talk. If these allegation are true and harmful then Republicans will lose easily.

idalily| 11.4.11 @ 11:17PM

One of the two women was given the okay by the NRA to speak and she refused. Meaning there's no "there" there. IMO, it was a nuisance payoff and nothing happened. Events are staring to show Cain was speaking the truth on this one all along. As to the other woman, we'll have to wait and see.

That said, I think Cain has been badly advised and needs to rethink his campaign staff. Personally, I'm leaning toward Newt, but I'll take ABO at this point. Heck, I'll take a ham sandwich at this point over The One.

Kingofthenet| 11.4.11 @ 12:01PM

Obama NEVER lied, you just didn't listen to him BEFORE he became President, he pushed for Univeral Health Care during the campain, and NEVER changed his views. You make it sound like he was touting Republican Ideals than when in office went against those promises, Never happened.

W| 11.4.11 @ 12:31PM

Obama lied about Rev Wright and Bill Ayers.

idalily| 11.4.11 @ 11:18PM

If we have Universal Health Care, what are all the waivers for?

VW| 11.6.11 @ 12:41AM

and how about transparency???

kate| 11.4.11 @ 2:15PM

Romney/Rubio.
Romney is a centrist, but quite intelligent. (HIS scholastic records are open ). He is, however , a detail man and lacking charisma.
Rubio is a "big picture" guy, smart, charismatic, young and a true patriot. And hispanic. The growing hispanic population is very important to the future of the country.
I hope that Rubio isn't selfish and doesn't hold out for the presidency in 4 years.
It will be too late by then.
He needs to put his country first.
It'll be a landslide if it is Romney/Rubio.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 3:10PM

Romney's picture is in the dictionary beside the word "RINO"..

emo| 11.5.11 @ 11:47AM

Rubio isnt running. The conservative base will stay home in larger numbers in 2012 if Romney is the nominee than they did in 2008. I personally would rather have Obama and a big GOP win in 2014 than Romney and Nancy as speaker in 2014

ENOUGH ROPE| 11.4.11 @ 9:29PM

GREEN LANTERN?

GL wrote anonymously. Politico and the Marxist MSM claimed anonymous sources for scandalous charges against Herman Cain. In contrast, Clinton was charged by identified sources: Paula Jones (Clinton exposed himself and demanded fellatio), Kathleen Willey (groped by Clinton near the Oval Office), Juanita Broadderick (raped by Clinton). Clinton was found guilty of perjury by the Arkansas Supreme Court on January 19, 2001. He admitted that he made false statements under oath.
http://tvnz.co.nz/content/60413/425822.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,35470,00.html

So, Green Lantern, why are you willing to judge Cain guilty and unelectable based on anonymous charges and the manner in which Cain and his staff responded to the charges. Politico and you judged Cain the loser in a process that is akin to Cain being forced into a boxing match with an opponent who is the wind If you are sure of your judgement, why do you hide anonymously as Green Lantern? Tut, tut, GL, you are SOOOO courageous; you are SOOOO sure of the truth without evidence!

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 9:02AM

Clit, I mean Clint,
sorrry, but I can' t take a limp-wristed-prancing- Turd Burglar seriously..
Not You, Michelle Bachman's husband.
And ex-cuse-a-mwa, but when did Herb Cain send a photo of his Schlong to a tennaged Moppet?
And as effed up as Weiner is, dude's got a package to be proud of, at least judging from the length of the blurred out area on the incriminating down loads...

Frank

Mac Jehoff| 11.4.11 @ 9:08AM

Posted like a true prevert. Marry a woman with small hands, that way your "package" will look bigger.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 9:15AM

You seem confused Israel Firster PropagandaPussy.

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 9:30AM

I'd be upset to if I had no sphincter-tone, you sphincter

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 9:35AM

You Talk Like A Bitchy Queer.

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 9:43AM

Wat-ever, you HIV+, dirt road butt-pirate.
And whats wrong with Israel anyways?
Oh yeah, your Boyfriend Moe-Hammed Atta...
but hey thanks for your Military Service..
Whoaa!!!!!! that you don't have, cause Come-Guzzlers like you dont make it past the Homo-Detector at the MEPS center.
Thats where you would have gotten your induction physical if you weren't an Al-Kaida sympathizer, you Iran Fister.
I mean Firster,
no, Fister is appropriate.

Frank

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 9:50AM

Like I Said, Barney Frank Dorkman,You Talk Like A Bitchy Queer.

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 10:04AM

See, thats the difference between me and you, Clint, besides you takin it up the rear, front, and any other orifices you might have.
You KNOW what a Bitchy Queer sounds like.
Probably cause you hang out with alot of Bitchy Queers.
And if it wasn't for Israel takin out the Osirik reactor in 1981, when you probably hadn't even sucked your first Penis yet, Desert Storm would have been alot more interesting.
Oh yeah, you couldn't join the miltary until a few months back...
probably still can't with that + Western Blot(Google that Shi*)
Frank

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 10:12AM

Yeah, A Bitchy Queer Sounds Like You, Barney Frank Dorkman.

loulou| 11.4.11 @ 11:28AM

You really have Clint agitated.
Who cares what his sexual orientation is!

Occam's Tool| 11.4.11 @ 1:25PM

It matters when he confines his gigolo work to bearded members of the Taliban and the Iranian mullahs.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 1:59PM

Tool Job works on Bibi's Tool.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 1:57PM

Apparently, loulou let's Bibi hump him/her/it.

Don't scare the gefilte fish.

kate| 11.4.11 @ 2:23PM

New here.
Who is Clint and why do you guys engage him?

VBMax| 11.4.11 @ 3:42PM

Welcome Kate,
There are many good posters here and a few not- so-good ones whose comments I just scroll through. I don't know why some engage them. Maybe some degree of sado-masochism involved.
If you stay, you'll soon learn to scroll through them as well.

Occam's Tool| 11.4.11 @ 1:25PM

Frank, gotta disagree with you (a little). Clint is actually a giant blown up version of the free living roundwork C Elegans, a hermaphroditic self fertilizing nematode. In addition to that, he also services terrorists, as you have noted.Hence his full screen name, C(lint) Elegans. See, Clint, I'm not the only one who has noted you write like a terrorist catamite, little boy.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 2:02PM

Tool Job's in a menage a trois with Bibi & Tool Job's goat, Billy.

Stormzeye| 11.4.11 @ 9:44AM

Clint, I rarely agree with you but I think you've got Drackman's number.

Mac Jehoff| 11.4.11 @ 9:45AM

Yo Frank, the difference between an arse hole and an anus: you can not hug an anus. Clint sounds more the poofter and has not answered the Dick Nome about his reports of in you endo . (_!_)

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 9:56AM

Israel Firster BibiBot Fruit Cup Mac Jerkoff Seems Very Bitchy Queer This Fine Mornin' , As Well.

Take Two Gefilte Fish & Call Bibi In The Morning.

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 10:32AM

Oh yeah, well your Barney Frank's Boy-Toy, who's name I can't remember, cause I'm not a Moe'.
And if I was really in the Massad, I'd go all "Munich" on your no-phincter-tone-HPV-infested Ass, you-couldn't-carry-Golda-Meyer's-Tampon- Fag..
Admit it, you make your BF wear an Ahmanidejad mask when you break the 4th commandment...

Frank

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 10:48AM

You're Still Talkin' Like A Bitchy Queer, Barney Frank Dorkman.

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 12:51PM

you oughta save your fingers for your boyfriends anus...

Occam's Tool| 11.4.11 @ 1:26PM

No, he's TALKING to a bitchy queer, Clint.

Bob K.| 11.4.11 @ 10:36AM

Clinton,
Don't you find it curious that issues like this were of no concern to the mainstream press when your namesake was running for President and looting the nation's treasury after he won?

But now some isolated Republican Iowa blogger and political functionary gets great credence when criticizing a Republican?

SpiralArchitect| 11.4.11 @ 2:09PM

Google 'the clinton chronicles' - sex was nothing when you even begin to understand what was going on with clinton in Arkansas.

I remember Vince Foster.

sablegsd| 11.5.11 @ 12:25AM

I also remember a pilot , I believe his name was Barry. He was running the drugs in Arkansas and had to jump dumb ass clinton to not be running out to the airport, all in a hurry for his cut. Yeah, he's dead too.

John Navratil| 11.5.11 @ 2:47PM

sablegsd,

That was Barry Seal, gifted pilot, purported CIA pilot, convicted drug smuggler, shot dead in Baton Rouge in 1986. Lots of mystery!

W| 11.4.11 @ 1:01PM

Green Lantern's column is a joke. What exactly did Cain do? Nothing.

If these women were really harrassed then let them come forward and say what happened. They can then be questioned and we can see what happened.

The confidentiality agreement is bull. All it means is if they violate it they have to give back the $35,000 ONLY if the employer sues them to violation. If they had a good case they would have filed a complaint with the EEOC, and then in court ,and settled for much more.

To compare Cain to Weiner is ridiculous. It is a proof of idiocy.
Cain is being lynched based on speculation of what may have happened.
At least Clinton's supporters were loyal and defended him. We have these sissy so-called Republicans like Karl Rove and Dana Perino advising Cain to hold press conferences and dignify these charges and apologize.

Rove and Perino did such a great job of defending Bush that we should listen to them. Rove is the genius that almost lost the 2000 race when Bush's DUi record was revealed by the Dems on the weekend before the election. Why didnt the genius Rove disclose the DUI early in the campaign and apologize for it so it would not be a story two days before the election?

The best advice for Cain is to ignore all the free advice from the TV Republicans, and ignore anything said by Democrats. Cain has been successful doing it his way, and continue to do that.

Anthony| 11.4.11 @ 1:12PM

Green Lantern is indeed a joke. Hey fool, let's review your two rules and apply them to Mr. Cain's situation.
Rule 1 get everything out yourself. What exactly is Cain supposed to get out? It's been 5 days and the MSM STILL HAVE NOT TOLD US WHAT HE ALLEGEDLY DID!! We have zero facts, zero names, and zero specific allegations, yet according to the genius Green Lantern, Cain is supposed to do the work of the Politico and the MSM.
Rule 2 When the facts are out.... apologize. Again, what is Cain to apologize for?? He did not even participate in the settlement with the R.A. so he is unaware of what the specifics of the "setlements" are. Besides the settlement is CONFIDENTIAL.
Green Lantern, go back to the HUFFPO where dolts like you reside.

Occam's Tool| 11.4.11 @ 1:28PM

Grand total with two cases---$80K. That's nuisance settlement.

On the other hand, Ron Paul goes on his knees to the Iranians every day! Now that's a matter to discuss. OK for them to have nukes, indeed.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 3:13PM

Slick Willie Clinton settled with Paula Jones for $850,000. Now THAT is guilty money..

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 5:56PM

Tool Job Goes On His Knees For Bibi & His Goat, Billy.

They're In A Menage A Trois.

PolishKnight| 11.4.11 @ 1:56PM

I thought about this as well. Apologies don't always make scandals go away especially with those out to destroy you. Apologies to them are simply an admission of guilt. I've seen others try this especially in this context (sexual harassment) and that's precisely what happens. Heck, that may be the reason for the settlement: someone in management panicked, agreed that it was wrong and apologized, and the lawyers responded: "Great! You're sorry YOU did something wrong! Now PAY UP!"

The proper thing for Cain to have done, after consulting a lawyer of course, is simply said that he didn't do anything wrong and for legal reasons he can't talk about it. Done. It's useful to keep in mind that sexual harassment is specifically defined as it being found whether someone did something wrong or not. It's all in the mind of the accuser, literally.

A REALLY smart politician would go on the offensive, but not in the Clarence Thomas manner he did: he should have then added that sexual harassment legislation should be reformed. A LOT of the voters in the heartland would sympathize with that statement since sexual harassment and political correctness has Sovietized the workplace.

Bottom line: Cain appears to have handled this badly which even those who leaned towards him make us question his ability to move forward.

DGinGA| 11.4.11 @ 5:42PM

Polish, I tend to agree with you that Cain should have come out right away and said that he was aware of some baseless accusations made against him 15 years ago, that it is his understanding that there may have been some sort of settlement made by his employer to make the women go away, but that he was not privy to the details, and is also not at liberty to discuss the accusations or the settlements. All of this would be true, and would seem reasonable to anyone who has ever been a manager in America since 1980. Then he should just stick to the theme that he is not at liberty to discuss any of this.

I think it was a mistake to start accusing anyone in particular in the media or from either party, and it certainly was a mistake to say it was because he is black. Whoever is doing this to Cain is doing it because he is SUCCESSFUL and his campaign has really been taking off. Someone considers him a threat, and wants to take him down. He shouldn't be helping them by falling into the trap.

I know that's difficult to do when you are basically an honest person, but it's the smart thing to do.

All that said, I am a Cain supporter and sent him $$$ on Monday to show my continued support!

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 2:57PM

I just donated $25 to the Hermanator at https://supporthermancain.com/iowafund/src/website

Alan Brooks| 11.4.11 @ 4:32PM

Solution: if you want a black president, vote for Obama in '12.

SpiralArchitect| 11.4.11 @ 8:58PM

Brooks, relax a little. Slow down, look around.

Take notice of what has gone on around you in America.

Besides, Clinton was the first
black US POTUS.

Alan Brooks| 11.4.11 @ 9:27PM

I know Clinton was; it wasn't the point.
What I have been writing about Cain is: he is popular because you are saying,
"even though we are Rightists, we will run a black for POTUS."
It is more than merely a coincidence. Sure, Cain has a great resume-- still, Cain's being black is the main card you are playing

wodiej| 11.7.11 @ 5:12AM

that was a good story.

Brian Mc| 11.4.11 @ 6:27AM

With a year until the elections, (if a state of emergency isn't declared), I will take a wait and see position...if it can work for Slick Willy why not Herman? Of course Aw-Shucks Bill didn't have the ruthlessness of the press unleashed against him but against those making the charges. The opposite will be true this time and it will get interesting to see how that plays out.

Better now for Cain than next November to be sure. I for one will hope that he weathers the storm to come. As a matter of fact, I have higher hopes for this result than that there will be a general election at all.

VBMax| 11.4.11 @ 9:25AM

It can't "work for Herman" because of the double standard in place. Dems can do almost anything they want but Repubs have to be perfect. If anything else comes out about Herman, he's done.

Kitty| 11.4.11 @ 6:39AM

Write a real piece of journalism under your real name, and I might take you more seriously.

Mac Jehoff| 11.4.11 @ 7:29AM

What is wrong with using the nom de plume?

chuck| 11.4.11 @ 8:34AM

Nothing wrong with writing under the "Green Lantern", but I think its way to early to write Cain off. Of course he didn't handle this the way a professional, polished politician would have. Herman is not one! That is part of the attraction of him. He tells you what he thinks, unfiltered by parsed words and political BS.

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 9:07AM

Its his choice of Super Hero that puts his mental state in question.
Its like when Steve Garvey went Free Agent, had his choice of 25 teams to pick from, and signed with the SAN DIEGO PADRES...
or Bob Dole picking Jack Kemp for his VP, hey, he'll help carry upstate New York...
or when they picked that Poof Roger Moore to be James Bond over Clint Eastwood..

Frank

VBMax| 11.4.11 @ 9:26AM

I'm still mad at Garvey, the mercenary, for going to San Diego!

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 9:37AM

Never liked Garvey, and it wasn't cause of his sanctimonious goody-2-shoe-ism...
I hated him for having the hottest babe on LA TV at the time, Cindi Garvey, and if I had a quarter for every day of school I missed so I could watch her on "AM Los Angeles" I'd have ummm
maybe a buck, my Mom was pretty strict.
And no DVRs back then, so if you didn't see Cindi's DSLs in the morning, you were screwed.
Ron Cey, Reggie Smith, and Dave Lopes were the real MVPs of the 70's Dodgers anyway..

Frank

Moe Blotz| 11.4.11 @ 9:48AM

Someone I knew from Los Cerranos told me that before his divorce Steve Garvey became a spokesman for Colonel Sanders , touting luscious breasts and succulent thighs.

VBMax| 11.4.11 @ 9:56AM

Don't forget Dusty Baker...

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 10:14AM

My Bad, forgettin the last guy I would have pictured as a Major League Manager...
and how bout my He-ro, Charlie Hough, who made even a skinny 13 year old lefty think he might have a chance in the bigs if he could just learn to throw a Knuckler...
Frank

Mal_Content| 11.4.11 @ 9:59AM

I think Eastwood turned the role down because he thought Bond should stay British.

Occam's Tool| 11.4.11 @ 1:29PM

Green Lantern? Every one knows that the Superhero of choice for a good undercover reporter is WOLVERINE---never stops, keeps clawing, goes for the throat, completely fearless and unstoppable except by death---and very hard to kill.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 10:17AM

Yeah, Brooks is usin' his latest nom de guerre.

Mac Jerkoff is an appropriate nom de guerre for Obama Israel Firster Brooks.

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 10:33AM

Hey Clit, I know you love Balls, but we're talkin Base-Ball here,
sorry.
Frank

Mac Jehoff| 11.4.11 @ 10:48AM

That's it Clinty, c'est le guerre. Is Frank saying my favourite poofter has no balls?

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 10:52AM

We Heard That The Squirrels Ate Your Nuts, ObamaBoy Israel Firster Brooks.

Squirrel| 11.4.11 @ 11:01AM

URP! Pardon me, please.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 10:50AM

More Bitchy Queer Talk From Barney Frank Dorkman.

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 11:12AM

Clint, talkin to you's like tryin to talk to Lancelot Link...
but let me put it in terms real men can understand.
You can ask a real man next time you get picked up for buggery with a miner...
I'm an Israeli Arms Desert Eagle 44 Magnum, loaded with 240 grain Semi Jacketed Hollow Points.
Thats a bullet, not your boyfriends Penis.
Your a Daisy BB gun, with a compass in the Stock so you can find your way to San-Fran-Sissy-Co...

Check-Mate-Fag

Frank

loulou| 11.4.11 @ 11:31AM

Oh Frank, I'm beginning to actually feel sorry for Clint. You're brutal. Poor Clint--being HIV+ and all.

Occam's Tool| 11.4.11 @ 1:31PM

Well done, Frank.

Steve| 11.4.11 @ 5:39PM

Hey Frankie, what's with all the attacks and comments about homosexual practices? Are you still in 6th grade? This site is for political and cultural comments. Grow up or get lost and take your playmates with you. You are wasting space here, clown.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 6:07PM

You're Still Talkin' Like A Bitchy Israel Firster Queer, Barney Frank Dorkman.

Take Two Viagras & Call Your Boyfriend Bibi.

Jack in Wi| 11.4.11 @ 6:41AM

I said Cain was a goner weeks ago. It had nothing to do with sexual harrasment. It had to do with the fact that his 999 plan was a massive new tax on the american people. It also had to do with the fact that Herm was incohernet on Abortion, The Fed audit, TARP, and other bailouts, history, geography, foreign policy, monetary policy, economics and most everything else.

Herman had been the media elites and the Republican establishment choice to divide the conservative vote. In fact that was why he ran in the 1st place. They are using the old 1996 campaign strategy of running mutiple conservative candidate to dilute the conservative vote and stop Pat Buchanan from getting the nomination. They ran Bob Dornan, Alan Keyes, Gary Bauer,etc. T%he main differnce between these guys and Buchanan wanted to bring the troops home from overseas, concntrate on America's problems first anf foremost and end all foreign aid and foreign alliances. The Cold War was over. If he had been elected this country would be a far better place today. These guys were all for the same foreign policy as usual, and against abortion.
They didn't get a lot of votes but they cost Buchanan several primary elections and we ended up with old man Dole.

I have stated many times on this site that it is Ron Paul or ruin. I say that for the simple reaason because he has been right on the issues for 3 decades. He is the only one who has put forth a plan that has a reasonable chance of getting this country back in fiscal and foreign policy shape. All the rest are more of the same.

I predicted a little while ago that Newt Gingrich would now be puffed. We all know Newt is the last of the guys standing except Romney and Ron Paul. It is time to get down to a real, thoughtful, long and intelligent debate in this party and country about where we are going. Put Romney, Ron Paul, and even Newt on stage and let the people see an honest debate. All this other nonsense is putting Obama back in the White House.

chuck| 11.4.11 @ 8:47AM

Rasmussen poll:

Cain 26
Romney 23
Gingrich 14
Perry 8
Paul 7

If you want to have Paul alone on a stage debating Romney, he must earn it. He must do something to get himself up in the polls. It's not like he does not have name recognition. People know who he is, and they are not flocking to him.

I think most Republican voters like his domestic agenda. I like his proposal to cut large areas of the federal government. He could probably cut more and I'd be happier. I just have some real concerns about his head-in-the-sand mentality about people who want to do real harm to this country.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 9:03AM

"GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul is polling in third in the key early voting states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, according to a new CNN/Time poll released yesterday.

The Texas Congressman attracted 12% in telephone polls with potential voters in all three states."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is here.

chuck| 11.4.11 @ 9:15AM

Rasmussen was this morning. Your poll was from when?
He still has a lot of work to do to get into the top tier. Every poll I've seen has Paul no better than 5th.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 9:33AM

Third Is The Top Tier, Caniac.

The CNN/Time Polls Are State Polls & Released October 27th.

Your Rasmussen Poll Is A National Poll Poll.

As The Herminator Says" That's Apples & Pears."

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here & The Herminator Has Left The Building.

Paul Bot| 11.4.11 @ 9:43AM

Paul is a nonstarter. For some mysterious reason his supporters want to split the Republican Party into little unelectable pieces. They have done their work and he is trashed. Good job, Clint. With friends like you, ... If on the other hand Clint is an Obama supporter, then he really needs to congratulated for effective dirty tricks. Either way Clint is working for Obama. The gay vote was always with Obama.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 10:01AM

Like I Said, The BibiBot Israel Firsters Are Talkin' Very Bitchy Queer, This Fine Mornin'.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.Hobbitts.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 11:02AM

Clit,
first of all, who doesn't like the 3 Stooges??(all Jews BTW)
Hoity-Toity Homos like yew, thats whew...
and you talk all tough and everythang, but I bet my 16 year old daughter, who's such a JAP, you look up JAP in the dictionary, you see her picture, could slap every tooth out of your 10-gallon head.
OK, that'd be like 2 or 3 teeth tops..
I know, I'm a Bitch, beats bein a Queen, you Queen...

Frank

Occam's Tool| 11.4.11 @ 1:33PM

Frank---first Clint would have to survive my 8 year old daughter.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 8:38PM

Tool Job's Daughter.

http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/.....ugly_2.jpg

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 8:33PM

You're Still Talkin'Like A Bitchy Queer,
Barney Frank Dorkman.

But More Disgusting, You're The Neo-Chickenhawk Coward Traitor Bastard,Who Posted The Following Israel Firster Traitor Bastard Crap Over On The "If Israel Strikes " Article
" Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 11:32AM

at WJ,
yeah, right, like they didn't strike the Osirik Reactor..
which if they hadn't, Desert Storm would have had a lot closer point spread...
and yeah, I know all about the USS Liberty, thats what happens when you spy on Souvereign nations.

Frank"

You Are Israel Firster Traitor Bastard Scum.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Paul Bot| 11.4.11 @ 12:26PM

Ron Blame America First Paul is a non starter. Say hey to the President, sissy boy.

Redstateboy| 11.4.11 @ 11:56AM

Clint... would ya settle for a Ron Paul Secretary of the Treasury?? Cause that's the most he's going to get and he would do great service to his Country. Now would ya just stop irritate'n us about it - Paul is Not going to become President of these United States.

Dick Nome| 11.4.11 @ 6:54AM

This is another revolting hit piece on a fine and decent man. There is no substance in these accusations. Leftists can't stand up to decency, so they trash it. Same for some of you other Jack-offs. Some how this all smacks of the Left and the ORCs.

Lee Ghume| 11.4.11 @ 7:27AM

Green Lantern may be related to David Kahane.
Honkies for Herman.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 8:51AM

Herman Cain, " I'll Get You Ricky Perry".

http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/.....1/whoa.jpg

John Navratil| 11.4.11 @ 9:00AM

"pinched a waitress in Burger King"

Whoever Green Lantern is, he obviously hasn't been to a Burger King (unless he took his own waitress to pinch).

Let's see...
(1) Ben Stein is rich.
(2) The are no Burger King's in Malibu.
...ergo...
The Green Lantern is a duck!!!

Moe Blotz| 11.4.11 @ 9:12AM

John, you are quacking us up.

Redatheart| 11.4.11 @ 6:55AM

Among the numerous mistakes Mr. Cain has made is taking the posture that HE can make accusations as freely as he likes but he refuses to allow others the same. He can dish them out but when someone points a finger at him, its a witch hunt and smear campaign. He's also enjoying the luxury of being able to define what is and isn't sexual harassment. Perhaps the women in these cases would have their own definitions.

It was Herman Cain that essentially raced to CNN to denounce Rick Perry, coming very close to calling him a racist, over the hunting camp rock. Without doing any fact-finding or exercising intellectual curiosity, Herman Cain acted very much like an opportunist politician and hit below the belt. When this story of possible improprieties while at NRA broke, again, without proof, Cain made an accusation against Perry. He can't have it both ways. Laying blame, especially when there is no solid proof to back up the claim, is not just unpresidential (hope you're listening, BHO), its childish and demoralizing to the grassroots movement.

Mr. Cain's arrogance in thinking he can blunder his way through this is fueled by the Big Voices in conservative talk radio and certainly by the obvious love fest he enjoys frequently at Fox News. Mr. Limbaugh, for example, has invested hours this week in defense of Cain and his evolving recollections. Don't like what you're hearing? Don't listen! Unfortunately, based on latest polling data, many are still listening and they are hearing nothing about the failures of Cain to deal with this problem as an effective leader. Instead, its a rehash of Clinton/Edwards sins and that anything Cain says or does is always going to be better than those eras. Cain has been defensive and sarcastic, but let's let Herman be Herman, right? It was rather well put yesterday by Erick Erickson that he's on a murder/suicide mission now. He figures if he's going down, by God, Perry's going too. Hopefully, Cain's next book will focus on why the deep-seated hatred for Gov. Rick Perry.

It will be interesting to see if the Hannity-types eventually begin to walk back some of the fawning and gushing of love for the guy. Hannity has made no secret that he loves Herman Cain; he says it daily. No other candidate, save Newt who is a paid contributor, gets an hour on the radio then face time on TV all in the same day. Cain has had an enormous amount of free advertising and incredible amounts of time to explain his positions unchallenged.

When Rick Perry gave a good interview with Chris Wallace on Sunday, it was Herman Cain's sex scandal that broke at the same time, and it sucked all the oxygen out of Perry's attempt to reload his campaign a bit. On Wednesday, Mr. Cain again upstaged Rick Perry by sending out the caustic accusations that none of this was his fault; its just a hit job by Perry. By the time Perry's interview with Hannity ran Wed. night, Hannity was more obsessed with giving commericial break hints that Cain was on the attack toward Perry than he was in trying to put forth a little 'Fair and Balance'.

The campaign contributions and continued high marks in polling are a direct result of the powerful celebrity conservative voices beating the Cain drum and continuing to refocus attention off of Cain's arrogant accusations, Cain's failures and inept handling of this mess. None of them ever came close to giving Perry this much slack of the The Rock issue. No wagons circled there.

American voters have a right to know if the people applying for the top job in this country have some character flaws that could possibly translate into problems while in office. Would Limbaugh and Hannity prefer to drop this subject now and have the Democrats revisit it with a vengenance next October? The fact is, Cain's candidancy is now tainted. Should he be the nominee, only a fool would believe that Team Obama would not dredge this back to the surface.

Sadly, Mr. Cain is probably not guilty of drastically inappropriate behavior but it doesn't matter now. What matters is how quickly the voices of the conservative movement can find themselves again, regroup and go into the caucus season stronger and smarter.

This particular primary season has been much more about either propping up and highlighting certain personalites and the tearing down and deliberate agenda to delete others from the process than it has been about adherence to true conservative values. There is a remarkable cult of personality going on with several candidates.

Let's stop being on defense and allowing personalities and affection undermine the process of securing the best candidate with the most solid conservative record of proven results--real time results-- during this Recession.

Stormzeye| 11.4.11 @ 9:53AM

I think Herman Cain felt he could take a flyer at running for President and garner some publicity and a good book deal or two. Then, before he knew it he resonated with a significant portion of the Republican party for which he was completely unprepared. I hope he has time to undergo some serious study, reading and coaching between now and next November because he is definitely lacking in depth of knowledge and analytical skills when it comes to foreign policy and economics. Other than all that, I think he'd be a good President given his leadership and communication skills.

kate| 11.4.11 @ 2:31PM

I concur.
Slogans only take you so far.
Too big picture for me and lacking depth.
But I do like his gumption and think he is a great American.
I'm going with Romney/Rubio.
I wish Rubio wasn't so new to the scene and so young or it would be Rubio/Romney.
Rubio needs to buck it up and put his country first and get his name on the ticket.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 3:15PM

Nobody Cares.. This isn't exactly the site for Mitt Romney Fans. You won't find many establishment types in the comments here.

kate| 11.5.11 @ 1:01PM

Phil
I am not establishment. Just love my country and desperate for a solution.
What are you preposing? A third party?
Time to get smart, unless you enjoy this mess.
"Nobody cares" is the problem.

kate| 11.5.11 @ 1:02PM

And BTW
I'd quit crowing about the comments here, given Clint and all.

wodiej| 11.7.11 @ 5:19AM

well said. Finally some people who have some rational thoughts. ty

Ricardo M.| 11.4.11 @ 6:57AM

Fine article, and at last a clear and clearly written commentary on this whole sad episode, which has not only undercut the Republicans' chances but quite evidently sent the conservative pundits into a hysterical mode which, too, is a revelation of grace, or lack of grace, under pressure, ie character.

martin j smith| 11.4.11 @ 7:12AM

This is a hit piece upon a hit piece. Its called push in Romney. Here is my very brief take on this Cain thing:

It came from Politico a Left wing media outlet. Supported by the NYT--Ditto.

From unnamed sources no documentation and a Lawyer who I believe was associated with Clinton
And these sources are " Conservative" yea right ok fine.
Who would benefit? Obama first and Romney next right ?
So--the people who have posted are certain not of the Tea Party that I know of and are not Conservatives at all including the author of this hit piece.

Final thought: Mr Lantern, it seems you want Obama to be re-elected correct ?

canuckistani| 11.4.11 @ 12:59PM

How could a marginalized Cain be a benefit to Obama now?

BHO needs a long drawn out primary season, and this does not accomplish that.

This was a Perry hit in retaliation for the N***erhead hit by Rove. He just missed the true target - Willard. Wait a week or so and Willard will get one between the cojones by the Perry hit squad too getting th epriamry season back into a long drawn out process.

We are doing BHO's dirty work by refuseing to close ranks around a winning candidate.

Taunto| 11.4.11 @ 1:12PM

What's this "we", liberalface??

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 7:16AM

Umm First of all "Green Lantern" the Hulk would totally kick your ass.
What's so Super about a damn Lantern anyway?, heck, even Plastic Man could stretch his self longer...
Second of all, Herb Cain has more testosterone in one testicle than Romney, Perry, Newt, Santorum, Huntman, Ron Paul, and Michelle Bachman have in there 12, I mean 14 testicles.
Second of all, maybe Herb didn't admit he was guilty, cause he's NOT guilty.
I remember one time at the Hospital, someone signed the Chief of Staff up for a bunch of kiddie porn websites, and they were lookin for the guilty part, and it got so bad, I almost admitted to it, till they found the 20TB stash of Kiddie Porn at the Hospital Chief of Staff's home...
And maybe its Alzheimers, but I don't remember Bill Clinton cumming clean until the Impeachment dude was at the door...
Mitt Romeny is a Hair-Sprayed-Smooth-Talkin-Pansy, and I don't care if he did humiliate Perry by patting him on the shoulder like Pedro the Taco guy.
It's not cool taking advantage of the retarded.
And Rick Perry is either a dim-witted water-head or has a serious drinking/prescription drug problem.
And as much as I respect Newt for serving his wife divorce papers in the hospital(and howcome she's still Alive if she had terminal Cancer?) he's past his prime, like Billy Martin managing the 88' Yankees, sad really.
And as much as I'd like to make that Cougar Bachman scream like one of those 50's horror movie actresses, just don't trust a chick with the nuclear button, PMS and all that rot...

Frank

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 7:31AM

and Who HASN'T offended a Bee-Otch or two(thousand) in there career.
In Med School,there was this tight-assed Cun*, who complained to the Dean that the Male Students were FARTING!!!! Right in Class! With no warning, or even a courtesy tilt of the Ass to deflect the noxious fumes...
And when I was a young Intern occasionally a Nurse would ask "Are you looking for something Dr. Drackman"
and I'd say "A Good Woman" and they'd laugh, especially if they were old, you know, like 35 or 36.
And it only happens a few times a year, so you gotta be prepared...
but when some Sper* receptacle says..
"Dr. Drackman could I ask you a question?"
reply firmly and loudly,
"No, Nurse Ratchet, I Won't have Sex with You"
its funny, cause it shows how easily innocent questions can be taken the wrong way, and some women get turned on by confident dudes, and you might get some...

Frank

Mac Jehoff| 11.4.11 @ 9:52AM

Frank, are you overdosed on the nectar of Arabica or are your hormones still raging?

Stormzeye| 11.4.11 @ 9:59AM

"Dr." Drackman, your homoerotic references and anti-female anger betray you as either a repressed homosexual or a practicing one. Spare us all your bitchy campiness and middle school attempts at shocking vulgarity.

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 10:36AM

@ "Stormzeye"...
guess its better than whatever they called you in prison...
and who died and made you King Homo??
and don't say "Freddie Mercury", its Queefs like you that made him not take his HIV pills...

Frank

Mac Jehoff| 11.4.11 @ 10:50AM

In prison I believe the name would be "Peckerwood".

Occam's Tool| 11.4.11 @ 1:39PM

Hey, Frank, did you take your dates in med school to see the Leper's head in the Jar? (Lots of cool specimens at UTMB, dating back to the 1890s, when ethics were, shall we say, "looser") Nothing like the thanatos/eros flip-flop to loosen the girls up...

Steve| 11.4.11 @ 5:40PM

Buzz off little frankie

Mimi| 11.4.11 @ 7:48AM

Herman acted like Herman....It's just that we are used to the make-up and polish....Can't anybody recognize human authenticity. Why should he not make a biggie out of something that TO HIM was BIG! Real is REAL, get used to it! It might just be the wave of the future.
This game is EARLY we have a whole year until election day 2012, to pick a next President. The fun has just begun...its evolving. It would be better to have the truth be told on the facts instead of deductions. It would be nice to know who the culprit was on the breaking of this story...if only the PRESS would get out the TRUTH and the REAL facts...all this conjecture would end.
AND....Herman's not done!

canuckistani| 11.4.11 @ 1:01PM

Baloney. Cain's been a lobbyist and a talking head for nearly 20 years. I do not see any turnip trucks in his recent past.....
The real Cain is on display, finally.

Pard From PA| 11.4.11 @ 7:55AM

Cain never was qualified to be president. However, his response to his crisis does NOT mean 4 more years of Obama. Let's keep real hope alive and try to win in 2012.

Dick Nome| 11.4.11 @ 9:25AM

Obama was never qualified to be President. He still isn't. Herman Cain is far for qualified for anything over Obama.

Honkies for Herman. I'm with Lee Ghume.

canuckistani| 11.4.11 @ 1:02PM

BHO is not in this primary.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 3:00PM

I just put my money where my mouth is at https://supporthermancain.com/iowafund/src/website

Ned Ferguson| 11.4.11 @ 7:55AM

Green Lantern is like the lamest superhero ever. Please tell us who has the character to supplant Cain, and why this ridiculous media-manufactured "scandal" will bring down the whole party. All the candidates have their own problems. Romney was for global warming before he was against it, among a dozen other flip-flops.

Obama is a racist who consorted with a domestic terrorist, and a closet communist. Clinton was a serial molester who used state troopers to troll for women. Cain made some women claim to "feel uncomfortable" in search of PC gold, and this is supposed to "bring down the whole party." Sheesh.

I've got to say, I'm really disappointed in the Spectator for letting this rum. I thought your standards were higher. Really? Did Tyrrell take a look at this?

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 9:36AM

WHERE IS BOB TYRRELL WHEN YOU NEED HIM??!?!?

Moe Blotz| 11.4.11 @ 11:03AM

Maybe Mr.Tyrrell stepped out for a tot of rum after he posted his Thursday essay.

canuckistani| 11.4.11 @ 1:05PM

You thought the AmSpec standards were higher? I feel for you. Now you will see the truth.

Manufactured or not, this is exactly what a democratic house would do to Cain if elected, just as the GOP has done to BHO with effectiveness.

Thankfully we got to see his political chops on display before it was too late, unlike BHO.

Occam's Tool| 11.4.11 @ 1:41PM

Booster Gold was lamer than Green Lantern. Myself, I preferred Wolverine or Rorschach (I really like the latter, with his great line "I'm not locked in here with you; you are locked in here with me.")

Clinton| 11.4.11 @ 8:03AM

Whether the women's cases are substantive is irrelevant Cain has consistently told one story, then had to change that story as it began to unravel, then he had to clarify that story several times and then when all else failed he told a semblance of the truth that tried to blend all his stories into something believable.

Take one issue abortion. He was 100% against it. Then he told the truth that he was pro-choice, but realized that wouldn't fly. So he was 100% against it. Now he's for it in cases of rape, incest, etc..

Herman Cain is a marketing expert and lobbyist (that's what the chairman of the National Restuarant Association is) so lying comes easy to him. What's disgusting is watching Tea Party patriots rallying around a high paid lobbyist and defending his lies. The Tea Party is committing suicide on behalf of a bald faced liar who was a Democrat until a few years ago and Clinton supporter.

Dick Nome| 11.4.11 @ 9:26AM

I heard you were seen whacking your carrot at a Paulbot rally. Give us the details Clint. Why do you do stuff like that??

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 9:46AM

You Seem Confused,You Dick.

Clinton Is A Rick Perry Supporter.

Mac Jehoff| 11.4.11 @ 9:54AM

And it's a nice Dick you have there.

hardcard| 11.4.11 @ 8:10AM

green lantern=ben stein

Ned Ferguson| 11.4.11 @ 8:18AM

A Karl Rove guest piece.

ole meanie| 11.4.11 @ 8:14AM

I don't think if is too late for Cain to do all the stuff Green Lantern recommends, because Bill Clinton and John Edwards have lowered the bar so much that most poeple are jaded about such allegations.

The bigger question is whether Herman Cain should have ever gotten this far as a candidate.

Three year ago, the voters elected a man with charm and no expertise, because he was black. It has been a disaster. Now, it looks like we are about to do it again, but apparently it will work out better for the country this time because he says he is "conservative".

People who back Cain so vociferously are operating at the same level as those who backed Sharon Angle and Ms. O'Donnell, because it offends them that the liberal press call these people "unqualified" opr "stupid" or some such.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 9:35AM

BS.... We all knew who Obama was, and we all know who Cain is..

Its not that Obama didn't have experience, its that he's a committed marxist, and anyone paying attention then knew it.

Herman Cain is a TEA Party conservative. We all know it. There are no issues about where he was born, he has a clear history. There are no issues about him being able to turn around failing organizations and lead, we know his history.

So get off your simpleton talking points. We're not going for it.

If you really think the reason Obama is failing is his lack of executive experience (Which Herman DOES have - CEO), then I feel very much sorry for you.

rodeoamy| 11.4.11 @ 8:18AM

As to point one - there was a confidentiality agreement. "Get(ting) everything out on the table" and confidentiality agreements don't go together. As to point two - most importantly, the facts are clearly not all out, but what do you suggest he do if he in fact hasn't "done something wrong"? Apologize anyway?
I am, so far, believing that people will see this story for what it is - a hit piece, and a lame one at that -and vote for Cain. I do not think we are doomed to Romney.

Ned Ferguson| 11.4.11 @ 8:43AM

That's a big problem with establishment Republican's. They take the effete French approach to political battle, prepared to sacrifice their own at the slightest difficulty. Especially when it involves a media frenzy. Sad.

John Navratil| 11.4.11 @ 9:57AM

Ned Ferguson,

Isn't it true! The Democrats will rally around their worst while Republicans eat their young.

Oldefarte| 11.4.11 @ 8:19AM

Before I retired from corporate America eleven years ago, the joke was that you could get legally sued for telling a fellow female employee GOOD MORNING or YOUR HAIR LOOKS NICE. I'm sure it has gotten much worse now. Whether true or untrue, the fact remains that this situation is hypocritical. Democratic presidents have been allowed by the MSM to live scott-free of press coverage from lifetimes of sexual affairs/events, including rape and having sexual intercourse on a restaurant floor; and you go bananas over this? Give me a GD break!!!!!!!!!!!

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 8:54AM

Good One, Fart.
and what Red-Blooded Het-ero-Sexual American Male DIDN'T play "Smear the Queer"?!?!?!?!?!
And FYI, for any of you Blue-Blooded Ho-Moes,
"Smear the Queer" doesn't involve violence to actual Queers, just whoever's holding the football.
but by the time a Political Candidate explains the rules, history, and vital role "STQ" has played in keeping America numer one in Queer-Smearing, your average View-Watching-40+BMI-Soccer-Mom gets all teary eye about Matthew Shephard...
Thats "Drag the Queer behind a Pickup and set him on Fire" totally different game...

Frank

oldfart| 11.4.11 @ 9:03AM

Likewise - it got so bad at my company men were refusing to talk to any woman at work - one on one unless was a group setting. You never knew – especially with the 20 somethings - when any comment – even about the weather - would set them off. Needless to say moral when to hell on a freight train with no brakes and productivity went along for the ride. I got a transfer to the field as soon as I could.

wodiej| 11.7.11 @ 5:24AM

men confuse the workplace with being in a bar.

Deborah Barton| 11.4.11 @ 8:28AM

Forgetting why I had avoided the site for weeks, I stopped by spectator.org this morning. Then, I read this anonymous hit-piece on Herman Cain and remembered. I'll see you guys again next time my memory fails me.

Moe Blotz| 11.4.11 @ 9:21AM

Poor excuse to eschew the other thought provoking and informative material published here. Consider how you will miss all the incisive comments from TAS bloggers.

Occam's Tool| 11.4.11 @ 1:43PM

Well, Like You, Moe (seriously). I see Clint's name and it's like a Rottie hearing "bone."

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 6:12PM

Tool Job Hears "Bibi" & Goes For Bibi's Bone.

Louis Jenkins| 11.4.11 @ 8:28AM

Yes, maybe Cain should do as Green Light says, bare it all and say he's sorry that it ever occurred. It's not too late to do just that. I'm not a spittin' Cain freak, but I have enjoyed his brevity. Cain's campaign is far from over, and far better than Romney's, Perry's, or anyone else's. If Romney makes the nomination the Republican party is toast.

Mimi| 11.4.11 @ 9:33AM

Toast it will be....The Conservatives will walk....they will have to. Voting for "THEIR" guys is hard in any year....but NOW, and Obama ? The ULTRA LIB has taken us to the wrong place...The 20%......We are desparate for a CONSERVATIVE in there to do a repair JOB !!!

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 8:36AM

Hey, am I the only 40-something dude who had a special relationship with Supergirl in the early 70's???
It was a simpler time, no porn on TV, VCRs still a decade away... We'd cut our "Smear the Queer" games short at 4:30pm to watch Gilligan's Island re-runs...or my favorite..
Agent "99" Yeah Baby......
but the real Spank-age material had to be my sisters "Archie" comic books...
in fact when I hear that "Betty or Veronica" canard, its not theoretical...
I was a Veronica Man... I remember this one, where she was planning all these am-bushes on Betty, and they kept backfiring, and there was one where she got dreched with HONEY!!!!!!!!!!! then chased by a swarm of bees, and she had to dive in a pool.....:)

Frank

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 9:40AM

Occam Tool Job Is In The Building.

Mac Jehoff| 11.4.11 @ 9:58AM

Now it is Clinty who is confused, that is Frank raging his hormones. Occam's Tool is busy working.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 10:06AM

Uh Oh !

Brooks Is In The Building.

Mike Hawk| 11.4.11 @ 10:44AM

Whoops, CLint is mooning the staff again. Get you pants up and cover your ugly butt.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 10:58AM

Hawk At Mittens Romney Campaign Party

http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/.....c-head.jpg

Occam's Tool| 11.4.11 @ 1:44PM

No, Frank is NOT me---although I thouroughly support him. Fine man with good stuff. Can see why he got into med school.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 2:06PM

Tool Job supports Barney Frank Dorkman's tool.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.4.11 @ 2:32PM

You seem to be the only one obsessed with schlongs on this thread, Clit. What's wrong? Someone "rub" you the wrong way, Clit?

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 6:17PM

The Bitchy Queer Israel Firster GirlBarney Frank Dorkman & You Israel Firster Cupcakes Started It.

We Heard That You Rub Bibi's Bone, Israel Firster Con Job.

Frank Drackman| 11.5.11 @ 6:58AM

Clint,
C-C-C-C-C-C-an't we just get along..
This is America, Sissy, you won't get Matthew Shephard-ed, not most places anyway.
Now get back to your Iranian "Tiger Beat"
and I do mean "Beat"
Shalom,
Frank

Clint| 11.5.11 @ 9:44AM

You're The Neo-Chickenhawk Israel Firster Traitor Bastard Scum, Who Wrote This Over At The " If Israel Strikes..." Article.

" Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 11:32AM

at WJ,
yeah, right, like they didn't strike the Osirik Reactor..
which if they hadn't, Desert Storm would have had a lot closer point spread...
and yeah, I know all about the USS Liberty, thats what happens when you spy on Souvereign nations.

Frank"

You're Israel Firster Traitor Bastard Scum.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Clint| 11.5.11 @ 9:52AM

On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it.

USS Liberty' veterans demand investigation

Jun. 3, 2007 12:00 AM
Conclusions submitted in October 2003 to the Office of the U.S. Secretary of Defense by the USS Liberty Veterans Association, Inc., in demanding a congressional investigation into the aborted rescue during the attack of the USS Liberty and subsequent alleged cover-up.

The group also calls for a new Naval Court of Inquiry and that June 8 be officially recognized as USS Liberty Remembrance Day.

1. That on June 8, 1967, after eight hours of aerial surveillance, Israel launched a two-hour air and naval attack against USS Liberty, the world's most sophisticated intelligence ship, inflicting 34 dead and 173 wounded American servicemen (a casualty rate of 70 percent, in a crew of 294);


2. That the Israeli air attack lasted approximately 25 minutes, during which time unmarked Israeli aircraft dropped napalm canisters on USS Liberty's bridge and fired 30mm cannons and rockets into our ship, causing 821 holes, more than 100 of which were rocket-size; survivors estimate 30 or more sorties were flown over the ship by a minimum of 12 attacking Israeli planes which were jamming all five American emergency radio channels;

3. That the torpedo boat attack involved not only the firing of torpedoes, but the machine-gunning of Liberty's firefighters and stretcher-bearers as they struggled to save their ship and crew; the Israeli torpedo boats later returned to machine-gun at close range three of the Liberty's life rafts that had been lowered into the water by survivors to rescue the most seriously wounded;

4. That there is compelling evidence that Israel's attack was a deliberate attempt to destroy an American ship and kill her entire crew; evidence of such intent is supported by statements from Secretary of State Dean Rusk, Undersecretary of State George Ball, former CIA Director Richard Helms, former NSA Directors Lt. Gen. William Odom, USA (Ret.), Adm. Bobby Ray Inman, USN (Ret.), and Marshal Carter; former NSA deputy directors Oliver Kirby and Maj. Gen. John Morrison, USAF (Ret.); and former Ambassador Dwight Porter, U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon in 1967;

5. That in attacking USS Liberty, Israel committed acts of murder against American servicemen and an act of war against the United States;

6. That fearing conflict with Israel, the White House deliberately prevented the U.S. Navy from coming to the defense of USS Liberty by recalling Sixth Fleet military rescue support while the ship was under attack; evidence of the recall of rescue aircraft is supported by statements of Capt. Joe Tully, Commanding Officer of the aircraft carrier USS Saratoga, and Rear Admiral Lawrence Geis, the Sixth Fleet carrier division commander, at the time of the attack; never before in American naval history has a rescue mission been cancelled when an American ship was under attack;

7. That although Liberty was saved from almost certain destruction through the heroic efforts of the ship's captain, William L. McGonagle (MOH), and his brave crew, surviving crewmembers were later threatened with "court-martial, imprisonment or worse" if they exposed the truth; and were abandoned by their own government;

8. That due to the influence of Israel's powerful supporters in the United States, the White House deliberately covered up the facts of this attack from the American people;

9. That due to continuing pressure by the pro-Israel lobby in the United States, this attack remains the only serious naval incident that has never been thoroughly investigated by Congress; to this day, no surviving crewmember has been permitted to officially and publicly testify about the attack;

10. That there has been an official cover-up without precedent in American naval history; the existence of such a cover-up is now supported by statements of Rear Adm. Merlin Staring, USN (Ret.), former Judge Advocate General of the Navy; and Capt. Ward Boston, USN, (Ret.), the chief counsel to the Navy's 1967 Court of Inquiry of Liberty attack;

11. That the truth about Israel's attack and subsequent White House cover-up continues to be officially concealed from the American people to the present day and is a national disgrace;

12. That a danger to our national security exists whenever our elected officials are willing to subordinate American interests to those of any foreign nation, and specifically are unwilling to challenge Israel's interests when they conflict with American interests; this policy, evidenced by the failure to defend USS Liberty and the subsequent official cover-up of the Israeli attack, endangers the safety of Americans and the security of the United States."

skip| 11.5.11 @ 3:15PM

The silence speaks volumes.

Mic Scott| 11.4.11 @ 8:47AM

You make some good points. But you will find you have written him off way too soon. The right is to quick to sacrifice their wounded. Clinton survived Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, and many others. There is nothing this man could have done to have righted the ship in the media's view. This was designed to be a high tec lynching started by the left and propagated by the right. Fair minded Americans know that he is not a politician and the only thing they hate more than politicians is the press. They have way overplayed their hands.

TrueBlue| 11.4.11 @ 2:21PM

Realy though, Cain's poll numbers haven't moved, and his campaign received over $400k since the story was aired. He's obviously not done yet.

Melvin| 11.4.11 @ 8:55AM

It's Friday morning, and the funeral dirge for Herman Cain is already plastered on all the forms of media. The all knowing, all saying pundits are putting on their most serious faces and rubbing their chins and bloviating upon Herman Cains ash heap.
I'd say, and I know I am not going to win any points with some, and at this point and time and history I would like to invoke a phrase that Rhett Butler uttered to Scarlett O'Hara from the film Gone with the Wind. "Frankly Scarlett I don't give a damn."
If I wanted a frigging priest for President, I'd would go grab a Monk out of a Seminary, who has vowed a life of silence. Everyone is basing their decisions on innuendos. Currently there is nothing that has been released has suggested that Herman Cain thrown this woman up against a wall and bent her over a dumpster and raped her." One minute many women want to be virginal angels, and the next they want to be swilling beer and booze hanging with the big dogs being randy.
If some of you don't believe me just go to one of the more trendy bars where the power brokers and elites hang out, a person would swear that the club's name was Sodom.
If this woman or those women's honor was so impugned, why did they settle for such a paltry sum or better yet why wasn't charges brought before Herman in a Court of Law?
Maybe we should ask ourselves, "What law has Herman Cain infractus?"
Has our society reduced itself to nothing more than a baying mob, burying Herman Cain up to his neck, and stoning him to death? This is why the most pious Muslims do when a woman just looks at another man outside her family. The main difference here is we call it, "Lynching."
To be perfectly honest Herman Cain is no different than anyone of us. This Country has elected a man to be President that was so smart, that he in some elitists circles was elevated to a deity.
So where has this, "deity," got us hmm? Is our bridges made out of solid gold? Are there fields of diamonds for all to loll around in? No, our standard of living has dropped, millions are out of work, entire neighborhoods are vacated and sometimes being torn down without inhabitants stepping one foot in them. Yep, this is where the smart guy and all his smart czars led us to.
Herman Cain is not a perfect man or perfect candidate. But he does have a plan that will lead us out of this economic purgatory. He is not an inside the beltway know-it-all. Our form of government was not designed for professional, career politicians.
Herman Cain's policies and ideas will not appeal to all, because the crony capitalists and the corrupt career politicians will fight him tooth and nail because they feel threatened by him.
They are afraid the Herman Cain will upset the status quo, and frankly Herman Cain has the guts and the fortitude to do just that. Will Herman Cain be the perfect President that everyone so desires? No,but he'll be a damn sight better than anyone we have had in the last twenty years.

John Navratil| 11.4.11 @ 9:10AM

Melvin,

I like Herman Cain and, like you, think this will blow over. Cain got slapped in the face and didn't understand that, in this game, he loses points by slapping back; especially if his slap hits the wrong person.

The problem is that Americans are electing a leader as close to a king as the Constitution permits and they want the persons to be regal; all wise and powerful. Then, of course, the want the privilege of being wounded when their "king" is just another lousy pol.

It's silly, but tell me it isn't true. Cain has blundered and could stand some professional PR help.

TrueBlue| 11.4.11 @ 2:31PM

People complain because politicians are too smooth and always sound like they think they're superior. Then they complain when someone is neither smooth nor acts superior to them. Can't win, so better to just ignore it.

John Navratil| 11.4.11 @ 6:30PM

TrueBlue,

I like Cain's candor. The "ignore it" advice is good, but that genie is out of the bottle. Now he has to deal with it.

Tim| 11.4.11 @ 9:01AM

"Nothing -- repeat, nothing -- can be kept from the press."

President zerO would beg to differ.

TrueBlue| 11.4.11 @ 2:30PM

Nothing he has done has been kept from the press, they just haven't reported it.

hardcard| 11.4.11 @ 9:03AM

This attack and many more to come are all orchestrated by the lib/progs/socialist regime to re-elect obamasoros. Just look at the media and see how they are in a feeding frenzy to destroy,they invented the gottcha. They brought Nixon down, and distorted the Vietnam War to the point of defeat. The left will do anything to defeat opposition to their socialistic policies and now they are attacking with every weapon at their disposal.

martin j smith| 11.4.11 @ 9:04AM

Lets look at what we actually know about what Cain allegedly did: First the presentation-thru Politico-A Socialist News source. Now why would a former employee of the Food Trade Association to to such a source --especially if they were a "
Conservative ? Why not go to FOX or the WSJ for instance ? Are there facts ? NO Names NO Documents available NO . So what do we have here.

Allegation and innuendo. Nothing more

So let me cut quickly to the chase from my perspective:
Until there is hard irrefutable evidence against Cain --I support him morally against this crap.

Let me add that any other candidate and that includes Romney will not be immune from this type of smearing. So if they are serious ( which I wonder in Romney's case about their motivation
to actually win the election ) these other candidates better learn about dealing with this crap because they too will get theirs.

This article and others of thin kind make me feel very much that the Republican Establishment as they did in 2008 want to throw away this election.
Could this be why so many potential candidates decide not to run . Could be.

canuckistani| 11.4.11 @ 1:07PM

It doesn't matter. His ham-handed reaction to it is all that will be remembered. That's politics, amigo.

He is not ready for prime time.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.4.11 @ 9:05AM

Regresssives piss & moan about things like this all the time with black conservatives. Its as predictable as the sunrise. Meanwhile, these same, smug, mostly white libs of "popular culture" & politics are the ones who tell us that rap is "art." All music is art, to some degree. But let's take a close look at some of the "art" from rap lyrics. Having listened to my fair share up until even as few as 3 or 4 years ago, here's some of the older school lines I remember:

"B**ches ain't sh!t but hoes & tricks lick on dees nut & suck da d**k."...Snoop Dogg

"I'm a go-rilla pimp, you can call me Grape Ape, knock yo teefis outchyo mouf, need ta gitcho sh*t straight."...Project Pat, "Chickenheads"

"All that loud talkin ho, need ta go on settle down, 'fo yo friend have to pick yo ass up off da groun."... Project Pat, "Chickenheads"

Just YouTube the 2nd song. You'll hear "fo yo" self.

But nope. Herman Cain might've (insert gasp here) WINKED AT A WOMAN! This must mean that he's a closet sex offender, right? Give me a freaking break. And these same libs who call rap like the stuff I listed "art" are also the same ones who would've sucked the stain outta the blue dress themselves, if given the chance. We had to see & hear about Weiner's weenie for HOW long before he got booted for it? Jack & Teddy "Hope You Can Swim, Mary Jo" Kennedy, Corzine, & Edwards are all the same. NOTORIOUS philaderers whom liberals STILL LAUD to this day! Hell, Teddy was called the "Lion of the Senate" after he KILLED A WOMAN, FOR G*D'S SAKE.

Hypocrisy, thy name is liberal.

I ain't buying this crap anymore. Bubba used a Cubano cigar as a dildo & got a BJ in the Oval Office, along with REAL allegations of RAPE. Until I see or hear more about these "accusers," I could give a shat about all this. This is the GOP Higher Ups trying to sink Cain. Nothing more.

Besides, anyone else find it somewhat curious that every time its a black conservative that needs destroying, its always the perv card? Like Clarence Thomas?

Frank Drackman| 11.4.11 @ 9:14AM

@ Conchef:
did Clinton really use a Cuban Cigar to get Monica off???
What a waste of a fine Cigar...
I cant even find Cubans where I live, not even from actual Cubans.
Thought I had one a few years back, had the Habano label and everything...
turned out to be a re-banded Dutch Masters "President"
and you can't go to the cops when someone sells you a fake Cuban, cause just possessing one is Ill-Legal, its like those idiots who call the DEA when the drug dealer shorts em'...

Frank

Moe Blotz| 11.4.11 @ 9:38AM

Aks Canukistani if he can get the Cuban stogies from his kin north of the border. One of my mates here in New Juhsey was a construction foreman and used to receive boxes of Cubanos from clients. Real cigars, not relabeled fakes..

Con Chef (NB) | 11.4.11 @ 9:40AM

Well, it WAS Bubba & he IS a Democrat. "Illegal" is relative when dealing with such creatures.

Mike Hawk| 11.4.11 @ 10:43AM

Yes, Clinton did use a Cuban cigar. It was a rare one called a Monicanudo.

Con Chef (NB) | 11.4.11 @ 11:41AM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Well played!

Oldefarte| 11.4.11 @ 12:23PM

Frank, Monica would have GOTTEN OFF from Wild Bill's smile no doubt......just as the BOILER ROOM GIRLS did with Teddy and the [married] boys on Chappiquidick!!!!!!!!! OF

AgentRose| 11.4.11 @ 9:07AM

We don't have all the facts yet. Don't you see this as a hatchet job? BE SURE YOU READ THE POLITICO PIECE WHICH DESCRIBES HOW OBAMA WORKS, "Barack Obama’s campaign style: Go negative, stay clean." WAIT UNTIL ALL THE FACTS ARE IN. NOT SO SURE HE IS A GONER. IF THIS IS ALL THEY HAVE WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s.....z1ck2UZ2E3

AgentRose| 11.4.11 @ 9:09AM

HEY IS THIS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT?

FROM MARK STEYN: An Awkward Moment

November 3, 2011 12:22 P.M.

By Mark Steyn

Boy, these Herman Cain revelations are horrifying. The Des Moines Register has the inside scoop from “conservative radio host” Steve Deace:

During his Oct. 3 broadcast in Iowa, Deace mentioned that Cain made a comment to a woman who was there to report on the radio interview for another news agency.

“Cain said, ‘Darling, do you mind doctoring my tea for me?’” Deace said.

Deace told the Register last month that he believes Cain was talking about adding honey and lemon, but that it was an awkward moment.

I can well believe it. A tea needs doctoring like a woman needs a bicycle. Clearly such a man has no place in public life. Although, come to think of it, this Deace fellow sounds awfully patriarchal and proprietorial about “my female staffers”…

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 9:28AM

LMAO!! I love Mark Steyn!!

skip| 11.4.11 @ 11:21AM

All I want for Christmas is a new cast for "The Five" on Fox News:

Mark Steyn
Ann Coulter
James Taranto
Burt Prelutsky
Ted Nugent

Nick| 11.5.11 @ 4:17PM

Skip,

I strongly Second the motion!
Do I hear a Third?

skip| 11.6.11 @ 3:46PM

Apparently not many here are fans of intelligence and honesty delivered with deadly sarcasm.

Out of curiosity, do you second a change of cast, the five I wish for, or both?

I think these five would create the best show television has ever produced, bar none, any genre.

Nick| 11.6.11 @ 4:47PM

Skip,

Yes, to both.

Although, I admit, I'm not familiar with the work of Mr. Prelutsky. But, the other four are excellent, so, I trust your judgement.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

skip| 11.6.11 @ 10:27PM

www.patriotpost.us/opinion/burt-prelutsky/

Enjoy and take care.

Occam's Tool| 11.4.11 @ 1:48PM

WTF? Some women need to "lighten up, Francis."

oldfart| 11.4.11 @ 9:09AM

People I talk to have had it with the BS attacks. Perhaps in the press Mr. Cain is a dead duck, but the people who vote, who were fence sitters, they are going to vote for Mr. Cain in the primary to give the one finger comment to the lame stream media and watch Chris Matthews , and others, have an on-the-air meltdown. :) “They” must really be scared of this uppity black who dares to think for himself.

AgentRose| 11.4.11 @ 9:10AM

The Des Moines Register “Cain said, ‘Darling, do you mind doctoring my tea for me?’” Deace said.

AgentRose| 11.4.11 @ 9:10AM

INSIDE SCOOP The Des Moines Register “Cain said, ‘Darling, do you mind doctoring my tea for me?’” Deace said.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 9:26AM

What a pig! He called her.... Darling?!?! Someone must stop this man from becoming president.. we can't have a sexist pig like that in office who calls a woman... darling.

AgentRose| 11.4.11 @ 9:10AM

INSIDE SCOOP The Des Moines Register “Cain said, ‘Darling, do you mind doctoring my tea for me?’” Deace said.

AgentRose| 11.4.11 @ 9:10AM

INSIDE SCOOP The Des Moines Register “Cain said, ‘Darling, do you mind doctoring my tea for me?’” Deace said.

AgentRose| 11.4.11 @ 9:11AM

NOW THE HATCHET PEOPLE WILL PUT HIM IN AN IMPOSSIBLE POSITION. SHE WILL RELEASE A STATEMENT. HE CAN'T BECAUSE OF CONFIDENTIALITY CLAUSE????

AgentRose| 11.4.11 @ 9:12AM

We don't have all the facts yet. Don't you see this as a hatchet job? BE SURE YOU READ THE POLITICO PIECE WHICH DESCRIBES HOW OBAMA WORKS, "Barack Obama’s campaign style: Go negative, stay clean." WAIT UNTIL ALL THE FACTS ARE IN. NOT SO SURE HE IS A GONER. IF THIS IS ALL THEY HAVE WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s.....z1ck2UZ2E3

AgentRose| 11.4.11 @ 9:13AM

DEAD FISH EMANUEL? HECK THIS IS WHY HE IS IN CHICAGO SO HIS E-MAILS CAN'T BE SUBPOENED?
We don't have all the facts yet. Don't you see this as a hatchet job? BE SURE YOU READ THE POLITICO PIECE WHICH DESCRIBES HOW OBAMA WORKS, "Barack Obama’s campaign style: Go negative, stay clean." WAIT UNTIL ALL THE FACTS ARE IN. NOT SO SURE HE IS A GONER. IF THIS IS ALL THEY HAVE WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s.....z1ck2UZ2E3

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 9:24AM

Amen to that! At least he's not palling around with terrorists like president ZERO.

BillF| 11.4.11 @ 9:14AM

When first approached by Politico, Herman should have known that a hit was coming. He should have then gone back to the NRA to get legal guidance for a preemptive strike that would: (1) acknowledge that there had been accusations and that they had been settled; (2) acknowledge that he had been approached by Politico, which demonstrates that the confidentiality agreement had been breached; (3) state that in the interest of protecting those involved and preserving the remaining integrity of the confidentiality agreement, there is nothing more he can say on the matter.
But he didn't do that then, so what he needs to do now if he is to have any chance going forward, is:
(1) Hold a press conference to acknowledge that he has handled this totally wrong; (2) say that he should have handled this as stated above; (3) say that he erred in this because he wanted to protect the confidentiality agreement and he dissembled because of this and that he gotten the legal guidance this would not have happened; (4) apologize strongly to the Perry campaign; (5) state what he has learned from this fiasco and what he is doing inside his campaign to better handle situations in the future.
Cain's handling of this has damaged his self proclaimed image as a "Problem Solver". This is his opportunity to demonstrate that this really is true, because if this is the way he will handle the REAL bumps in the road as president, we are in REAL trouble with him in office.

If he is going to recover from this he has a very small window of opportunity; I hope the problem solver realizes this.

RGL| 11.4.11 @ 9:17AM

Baloney. Last time I read pieces written by a comic strip superhero.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 9:22AM

Lost my respect.. Sounds like an establishment type with this piece. Totally blind to the facts.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 9:19AM

Excuse me? A Goner? A poll that started the day the controversy started and was released yesterday still shows Herman with the lead at 26% and Mitt at 23%.

And as far as I'm concerned, until I see some hard evidence of wrong-doing, I will view this as a smear campaign, which it seems to be.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 9:21AM

He's had the best days of his fundraising since this started as well.

Might wanna rethink the whole concept of this article, unless your goal is just to bash Herman and further the accusational rhethoric.. wait.. nevermind.

King Henry II of England| 11.4.11 @ 9:23AM

Can't anyone rid me of these imbecilic candidates running for president?

King George| 11.4.11 @ 9:45AM

I tried to tell those bloody Americans they couldn't find a leader such a I!!

TLS| 11.4.11 @ 9:25AM

Regardless which candidate you support, I think it would be wise for us freedom-loving people not to lose site of the real goal in the 2012 election: removing obama from office.

A healthy, vigorous debate is a good thing but not to the point self destruction. This does nothing more than weaken our collective resolve all while emboldening and strengthening our enemy.

No doubt that when the election process works its way down to the final two (perhaps more) candidates, that we will stand united. In the meantime, debate constructively, do your due diligence, and continue the good fight to the end.

martin j smith| 11.4.11 @ 9:32AM

Since Cain is under legal restraints all of the wonderful advice given is irrelevant and useless.
What I think should be done now is this: All Republican candidates without exception should renounce such smear tactics and do this: While having different views on the economy and other matters, they support Cain against smear tactics.
They too can and will be targets some day soon.

Redstateboy| 11.4.11 @ 9:34AM

Herman's gonna handle this and it's completely ludicrous to even consider flushing him at this moment. This is all BS.. unnamed this, unnamed that.. they don't want to come forward cause they're afraid? BS! Remember 1 thing... Herman Cain is a Huuuuge threat to the Slave Party and Black Man - particularly a Black Conservative, Ain't gonna be allowed to just walk off the Plantation thankyouverymuch.. next thing ya know.. other Blacks will start thinking for themselves and thinking the Plantation life actually sucks and what would happen to the Slave Party Then!?! Can't have it. Cain Must be destroyed/lynched.

Clinton| 11.4.11 @ 9:35AM

For all you sick Cainites go beat up a girl it will make you feel more like Herman "Anthony Weiner" Cain.

Lee Ghume| 11.4.11 @ 9:40AM

Honkies for Herman .

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 9:47AM

Crackers for Cain!

Lee Ghume| 11.4.11 @ 10:54AM

Oh yeah! That one is a winner. Send $9.99 to Georgia and help our Herman.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 3:03PM

I was going to, but I sent him $25 instead. Modest, but its what I can do. If you wanna join go here https://supporthermancain.com/iowafund/src/website

John Navratil| 11.4.11 @ 9:54AM

Clinton,

All that BS in just twenty-one words. How do you do it?

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 9:56AM

Only a Paulbot can logically equate dickpics with asking a woman to doctor some tea..

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 10:25AM

Duuuuuuhhhh !

Apparently, Ya Can't Tell The Players Without A Scorecard.

Clinton Is A Rick Perry Supporter.

Tea Party Clint Is A Dr.Ron Paul Supporter.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Mike Hawk| 11.4.11 @ 11:22AM

Clint is Paulbot. Tea Party is not. Clint wears his TP moniker as camo to legitimize his own kooky rants.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 1:13PM

You're A Serial Liar Hawk.

You Keep Failing To Show up At Our Valley Forge Tea Party Meetings.

We Have Another Meeting Friday Night At The Phoenixville Country Club.

Show Up & Badmouth Dr.Ron Paul & See What Happens To You, Asshole.

Occam's Tool| 11.4.11 @ 1:50PM

I thought you were in Apple Valley, California, Clint Air. I gets confused.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 6:21PM

Screwball Israel Firster Maniac Tool Job Is Confused.

Nothin' New There.

Mike Hawk| 11.4.11 @ 5:48PM

Don't threatenen me Asshole. You'd make a big mistake. I don't have time to waste on punks like you.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 6:22PM

What Are Ya Gonna Do About It, Israel Firster Punk ?

Hmmmmmmm Asshole ?

Colin| 11.4.11 @ 9:37AM

Some perspective, GL:
- Who cares what the Dems think? They've idolized politicians with actual rape and prostitution charges on their rap sheets.

- As Phil said, there's basically no hard evidence here. An attorney is making a statement on behalf of a client and the rest is he said/she said.

- Herman Cain has run several organizations before the restaurant assn. If this was indicative of his behavior wouldn't similar, on-the-record accusations have surfaced quite a while ago? See first comment.

- The complaint in question was under seal, so how can he come out with everything? Plus, Cain probably doesn't know what's in it. We can't really trust the lawyer to provide an objective view as he perspective as he reps the complainant.

Let's try thinking first and then writing.

socalgirl| 11.4.11 @ 9:39AM

As a Tea Party Conservative, when it comes to Herman Cain the only two factors that matter to me are: 1) he's not a beltway politician (RINO); and 2) he's not Mitt Romney.

BackToBasics| 11.4.11 @ 9:44AM

These allegations are a no-win scenario. They are so flimsy and we cannot see or hear the original accusers. A gag order prevents any defense. Cain has not handled this perfectly but who could? His replies were passable enough until he went after Perry. This gained him nothing.

But I still like Cain's strengths. And yes, more than ever, these accusations will push many who are fed up with the establishment's sublties and two-faced lies and over many decades in both parties into Cain's camp.

Many here have always wanted to denounce Cain and, if you are Republicans, this hit-piece gives you more satisfaction than it should.

ALinLA| 11.4.11 @ 9:45AM

"...was leading in the polls..." ? Well goes to show how much credibility your OPINION is worth...you don't even have the smarts to recognize that Cain is STILL LEADNING in the polls, even with all the efforts the likes of you keep throwing at the man.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 9:47AM

AMEN AL!!

Stormy| 11.4.11 @ 9:51AM

If four more years of Obama is inevitable, then we may as well leave the country now. This country will not be the same after four more years. Goodbye America, it was great knowing ya.

VBMax| 11.4.11 @ 10:13AM

Nope, reinforcements are on the way. They'll be marching on Washington 11/11/11.
http://www.patriotsunion.org/

ncatty| 11.4.11 @ 9:54AM

I have not learned anything yet to keep me from voting for Cain in the primary.

dougk| 11.4.11 @ 9:56AM

Politicians, charlatans, talking heads, media sewage, and the tyranny of taxation, over regulation, and over legislation, are scripting the decline of America.

While every working individual gets fired for cost reduction or poor performance, politicians thrive with poor performance, irresponsibility, and endless pontification.

The bureacratic government model must be replaced by a de-centralzed non-profit business model

Hire Herman Cain soon, to restore America, the dignity of the human spirit, and to harness the infinite bounty of the human spirit

Marco| 11.4.11 @ 9:56AM

Herman Cain does not have the issues knowledge of a casual follower of the news. If he is (was) the dream candidate of the conservative faithful, the Obama nightmare is deserved.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 9:56AM

Marco Rubio?

kate| 11.4.11 @ 2:43PM

Romney/Rubio.
Problem solved.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 3:23PM

Correction: In the words of The Who, "Meet the new boss... same as the old boss.."

Dick Nome| 11.4.11 @ 5:46PM

No Rubio. He nees to be Senate Majority leader, not end his career by being VP.

kate| 11.5.11 @ 1:09PM

I would agree, but I am afraid there won't be much of a country left if he doesn't step in now.
VP doesn't necessarily mean the end of the road. Look how close Algore (God help us) came in 2000.
He needs to put the country first and not his career.
I for one will be less supportive of him in the future if he is selfish.

VBMax| 11.4.11 @ 11:54AM

Cain can be of some value in a Republican administration but not as president.
Case in point: How many of you posting on this site didn't know what the Palestinian "right of return" referred to? Cain didn't and there's plenty more that he's unaware of. The planet is currently in a state of chaos and getting worse. The next president better know what the hell he's doing.

Kingofthenet| 11.4.11 @ 1:04PM

That's the most troubling, it's not a weird Arcane question, that few have heard of, it's one of the central issues in the Isreal-Palistinan negiations.

Occam's Tool| 11.4.11 @ 1:51PM

Yes, and the Palis have the Right of Return to Clint's anus.

Clint| 11.5.11 @ 1:00AM

Tool Job Talks Like A PMS'Y Bitchy Queer.

Michael Tomlinson| 11.4.11 @ 10:01AM

Martin J. Smith:
As Redatheart has correctly pointed out Herman Cain has regularly smeared Rick Perry (alleging he's a racist and even dimed him out as a sex offender without any evidence). Why? Why is it alright for Herman Cain to jump on a liberal hit piece to attack another Republican and then without evidence attack that same Republican again based on a liberal news article? Personally, the only Republican smearing other Republicans based on nothing is Herman Cain. Talking about high-tech lynching Cain is the only one playing that game.

If Herman Cain wanted this to disappear he should have told the truth from the beginning instead of lying and then making up stories only to admit he knew it was coming ten days before it was released. Then to make matters worse he blames it on racism (a typical liberal African-American tactic to cover-up guilt), blames the Perry campaign for the revelation without any facts to back up his contention and then throws Rahm Emmanuel into his pity party of childish finger pointing. The problem is Herman Cain’s needs to release the women from their confidentiality clause and if he behaved inappropriately and propositioned them or worse live with the ramifications. If there is nothing to their stories, but a drunk and obnoxious Herman Cain then he needs to live with that too. But Herman Cain needs to grow up and act like a man and not an arrogant self-righteous Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton race pimp.

Finally, Herman Cain should be man enough to admit his errors and publically apologize to Rick Perry and to his campaign staff. I don’t expect that from the whiny Herman Cain or his moronic campaign chief they’re just not that mature or dignified.

somnolence| 11.4.11 @ 10:07AM

Then if it happens, I don't give a damn. The very idea that the author takes the allegations against Cain seriously tells me he is just another RINO or establishment camp Republican, sullied because his "profession" was justifiably "bitch-slapped" the other day in Alexandria. I see Cain isn't through by any means, and articles such as this only fortify the campaign contributions from all of us to the Cain train. "Green Lantern" is akin to the "anonymity" of these "brave" women Politico drug in their sewer haunts.

Bob K.| 11.4.11 @ 10:10AM

ENOUGH OF THIS!

FOR A CHANGE OF PACE, HOW ABOUT SOME COMMENTS ON THE EAST COAST WRITER WHO WROTE THIS ARTICLE UNDER THE NOM-DE-PLUME GREEN LANTERN!

THE GUY HAS ALREADY GIVEN UP THE ELECTION TO OBAMA OVER THIS TEMPEST IN A TEAPOT! HE ACTUALLY BELIEVES THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS STUPID ENOUGH TO LET THIS BE THE REASON IT LOSES THE ELECTION!

THERE ARE OVER ONE HUNDRED COMMENTS (100) TO THIS ARTICLE SO FAR AND MOST OF THEM ARE MAKING GREEN LANTERN LOOK LIKE A PROPHET AND WE STILL HAVE TWO DAYS LEFT IN THE WEEKEND TO GO ON THIS!

canuckistani| 11.4.11 @ 1:19PM

Bob, have you not read AmSpec for the last 4 months?

The fatalists (me included) have concluded that the ideal candidate is not available this round. Between Steele and now Priebus, the abject failure to vett and promote better candidates is telling. Demint's disappearing act is also telling.

We have given BHO breathing room after the debt cap fiasco, and he can now reignite his campaign under cover of darkness as we masticate what candidates we have left.

My gut suggests a third party candidate will make a play and siphon votes a la Perot. This may not occur until May 2012 aftfer we have successfully emasculated the nom.

Stormzeye| 11.4.11 @ 10:11AM

Sadly, Marco, I have to agree with you. Cain lacks a certain depth of understanding and breadth of exposure to history and world events of the last fifty years. But, I don't care, as long as Obama is defeated. Anyone but Obama!

Buck Ofama| 11.4.11 @ 10:52AM

>Cain lacks a certain depth of understanding a

You're kidding, right? What the hell do you think of Ovomit?

canuckistani| 11.4.11 @ 1:20PM

BHO is not in this primary.

Stormzeye| 11.4.11 @ 3:43PM

I guess ole' Buck didn't understand "anyone but Obama".

somnolence| 11.4.11 @ 10:12AM

BTW the disintegration of America was well set before the election of Obama. A chain of events, aided by GOP stalwarts and exacerbated by Democratic liberals gave us Obama. Cain and perhaps Palin(with minor nods to Bachmann and Santorum) are the only ones approaching "savior" status that I see out there(and yes, I even have some reservations about Paul Ryan; actually prefer Scott Walker).

carlk| 11.4.11 @ 10:19AM

The political establishment, and sycophants are mesmerized by titles, and the existing descriptors of the current bureaucratic government models.

These gargantuan government institutions, just like kings, emperors, tyrants, dictators and the like have had their day. Now they are obsolete and irrelevant.

Hire Herman Cain to restore America, where aspiration through opportunity - education, zero direct taxes, minimum regulation, and minimum legislation - is available for every human being.

SUSEYQUE| 11.4.11 @ 10:21AM

Herman Cain is no angel and the women who took the money are of weak character.

canuckistani| 11.4.11 @ 1:22PM

What about the offerer?

Who Knows?| 11.4.11 @ 10:31AM

Cain is STILL toast.

Pete| 11.4.11 @ 10:37AM

Who cares? The liberal media is going to lynch anyone who gets the GOP nomination. Stick to the issues and remember that a pet rock could out-govern Odumbo. Every now and then, throw out there that liberals were fine with a president that poked subordinates in the clump with cubans, splooged on their dresses and lied under oath. This is no time to panic. Voters are awake this cycle as they see their country crumbling around them.

Buck Ofama| 11.4.11 @ 10:52AM

>Now his campaign lies in a shambles.

Stopped reading at that line of drivel.

Doctor Right| 11.4.11 @ 10:53AM

Boy, TASOnline just cannot wait to hand the nomination to Romney, can they???

WTH happened to this journal? There used to be REAL Conservatives on here; now it's populated with namby-pamby RINOs.

Why anyone who pretends to be a Conservative would write Herman Cain off because of utterly unsubstantiated accusations is stupid beyond belief.

Does anyone understand that since Cain was NOT a party to the settlement agreement that he has no idea what's actually in the agreement, so he CAN'T comment on it???

Does anyone here actually understand how these types of things are settled in the corporate environment???

"Settlements" are the preferred course of action since they save everyone's time and money. A settlement is NOT an admission of guilt; it's nothing but a pay-off, and an agreement to say no more.

Many of these "settlements" are the result of bogus claims brought by disgruntled employees or employees whose over-sensitivity makes them uncomfortable. And who defines "uncomfortable"? No one, and everyone simultaneously. It's a racket.

Worst of all, it detracts from real, actual cases of sexual harassment.

Anyone who wants to bail on Cain now NEVER supported him in the first place.

Here's a newsflash, you pansies: He ain't goin' anywhere!!

He's raised a ton of money since this non-scandal broke, and he's going to raise more.

It's high-time we stopped cowering before the left-wing media, and stopped letting them pick our candidates! Is this what you people want??? Seriously?!?!?

Shameful.

big bob| 11.4.11 @ 12:29PM

Great post. Not only will he continue to raise money, he will take on the added aspect of being a lightning rod for all of us who are sick of the horse pucky the libs and RINOS are trying to dump on him. They think we have come to accept these superficial analyses as authoritative, when they are nothing more than pseudo-reports. This has allowed us to see just who really thinks and those who pretend to think by regurgitating the talking points on the left.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 1:06PM

Dr.Reich's The RINO-CINO Who Said He Will Vote For Romney.

We Are Being Set Up By These RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Occam's Tool| 11.4.11 @ 1:53PM

Well, I still will support Cain if he wins the nomination. Damn straight.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 5:37PM

Tool Job Is Another RINO-CINO who said He Would Vote For Romney.

We Are Being Set Up By RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Paul Bot| 11.4.11 @ 2:26PM

Clint is a non starter. If he is trying to stop Romney, he should endorse him. A few words in support from Clint and Mittens would drop 10 points. Obama is your man, Clintie.

Paul Bot| 11.4.11 @ 2:26PM

Clint is a non starter. If he is trying to stop Romney, he should endorse him. A few words in support from Clint and Mittens would drop 10 points. Obama is your man, Clintie.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 5:44PM

The Ruling Elites' Flunkie Stooge Frontman, Mittens Gave Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....
And You RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Will Sell Out Conservatism Again & Vote For The Creep.

The Tea Party Rebellioin Is Here.

Paul Bot| 11.4.11 @ 7:52PM

Do us a favor and endorse him.

Doctor Right| 11.4.11 @ 3:07PM

Clint is the no-substance moron who can't string two coherent thoughts together with robo-posting infantile insults or faxes from Ron Paul's headquarters.

Nonetheless, "arguing" with an intellectually challenged dumbass IS fun...

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 5:49PM

Dr.Reich Is The RINO-CINO, Who Said He Will Vote For Mittens Romney.

We Are Being Set Up By RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.

These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.

Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Dick Nome| 11.4.11 @ 5:42PM

Hey Paulbot. I'm going to ask again. If Rube Paul goes third party, are you still going to support him?? Last week he would not say he would not do that.

Dick Nome| 11.4.11 @ 5:45PM

I'm addressing Paulbot Clint.

Clint| 11.4.11 @ 5:46PM

You're A Pussy, Dick.

You Don't Give Orders To Tea Party Patriots.

Keep Playin' Your Israel Firster Gamed & Find Out.

The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.

Mike Hawk| 11.4.11 @ 9:00PM

You don't want to meet me on the street JO. I'll kick your ass. You are a blow hard. I'm a Tea Party Patriot and I've give you an order any time I want. FO

Mike Hawk| 11.4.11 @ 9:27PM

Fellow posters, the previous was in anger, which I am slow to get to. However we now see a childish bully who can't deal with criticism threatening people he deosn't know. I've had enough of him and his unstable psyche. I apologize to the sane people here. I'm done with him.

Clint| 11.5.11 @ 9:34AM

No You Won't Pussy.You're A Keyboard Coward, Hawk.

Stick Your Order, Pussy.

The Tea Party Rebellion Steps On Hawks Beak.

canuckistani| 11.4.11 @ 1:30PM

Faux News is now Left wing?
National Review is left wing, maybe elitist, but run by bearded marxists?

OregonBuzz| 11.4.11 @ 11:03AM

Wow! This whole comment section, with few exceptions, has devolved to a teen age chat room. Y'all need to find a schoolyard.

somnolence| 11.4.11 @ 11:06AM

As Mark Bloch told Fox News this morning, this will be the last time the Cain campaign will address this NON-ISSUE. It tells me that Cain will direct his own campaign, and call the shots, not the media(if you really want to call them that throughout this fiasco. Compare the 50 plus stories about this for the first week compared to the whopping 3 for Bill Clinton-Juanita Broderick, and anyone can see the "media" isn't fooling anyone with their pastoral, fake, posturing)

canuckistani| 11.4.11 @ 1:32PM

An Mark Block has actually done anything like follow his own pronouncements?

Within an hour of proclaiming that, his own candidate was on Faux News blathering on.

I'll believe it when I see it, but the campaign has been laid bare.

Hermie| 11.4.11 @ 11:08AM

I'ze done tole you ah ain't touched dat woman. Looky hyar, doan aksk me dat qestion agin.

canuckistani| 11.4.11 @ 1:33PM

Back into your momma's basement.

Scoot.

Kingofthenet| 11.4.11 @ 11:25AM

Two things: Burger King doesn't have Waitresses, and 'Garçon' means boy.

dougk| 11.4.11 @ 11:31AM

The only constant is change.

The established political juggernaut backed bureacratic government model has failed spectacularly, since it is irrelevant and obsolete in the 21st century.

In a global economy, a business model oriented goverment model with zero direct taxes, minimum regulation, minimum legislation and an unleashing of the human spirit are vital for a revival of America.

Hire Herman Cain soon - restore America before it is too late.

russel| 11.4.11 @ 12:21PM

Are there ever site pests here today . Our country is at stake and you waste time and effort on silly namecalling . I prefer to comment that this article is all wet . Rush just said that according to the WaPo and Times to boot , that 70% of Repubs DO NOT CARE about these allegations , which is all they are . No proof , no fact , just finger pointing , five days long . I don't ( as most do ) care who runs against zero as long as they can beat him . So , Green Lantern , write about that or get lost .

nohussein| 11.4.11 @ 12:37PM

Back to making crappy pizzas.

somnolence| 11.4.11 @ 1:01PM

Don't hold your breath, gang. Just now listening to Rush. He'll be back in 5 minutes with the latest Demo findings on another SCANDAL(shudders) about Herman. Everyone else now is as pure as the driven snow, we just gotta stop that bogeyman Herman Cain.

Kingofthenet| 11.4.11 @ 1:13PM

The Central question remains: Was Herman Pimping Hard, or Hardly Pimping?

Kedar Vandan| 11.4.11 @ 1:14PM

Herman Cain is going to the White House whether you like it or not. The liberal media and the Republican establishment are just shooting themselves in the foot. When all is said and done Cain's ascendence is going to be historic. Americans are sick of the status quo. Go Herman!

nohussein| 11.4.11 @ 1:50PM

nein, nein, nein.

Rob | 11.4.11 @ 1:56PM

Why is it that every time I come over to read something on this site, and I end up disagreeing with it, it has the name "GREEN LANTERN" attached to it?

Wayne| 11.4.11 @ 2:29PM

Because this site is run by the globalists bent on making sure Obama wins again in 2012. They will shoot down any leading GOP candidate not named Mitt Romney.

somnolence| 11.4.11 @ 2:01PM

The campaign has been laid bare only in the brilliant way it is exposing journalistic hypocrisy. How often do you read about Jesse Jackson's 8 pending lawsuits against him in Politico, hmm? Yeah, Cain's campaign has been "laid bare" alright. All the way to victory.

nohussein| 11.4.11 @ 2:18PM

Won't happen.

somnolence| 11.4.11 @ 3:07PM

If Cain appears to have the nomination sewn up by the Convention, and has the delegates, and all of a sudden they sell out, bet your rear anatomy that there will be hell to pay in the form of either droves staying home in November or quickly seeking a 3rd party write-in, irregardless of Obama benefits or not.

AustinG| 11.4.11 @ 3:19PM

So we would respect Herman more if he acted as if the non specific charges didn't bother him? He should have hired a team to attack the women like Clinton? That would make him more respectable?

Simon Templar| 11.4.11 @ 3:37PM

What a difference a week can make on the character of a so-called conservative magazine and web publication.

TAS, we hardly knew ya.

Damn good thing I did not give you a dime of my money and never will.

I have learned agreat deal this week, unfortunately some very painful and unwanted lessons.
Here are some of the lessons.

A great portion of the conservative movement is incapable of rational thought and the ability to not be played by the Left.

When the rubber hits the road, the conservative electorate will eats its own, throw its candidates overboard, and will stoop to the same tactics, lying, and deception of its opposition. It is incapable of defending its people, its candidates, its positions, its elected officials. Rove, the great architect, could not figure out the necessity of defending Bush for eight years or explaining his positions or policies.

For all the bold talk and chest beating, when it comes down to the wire, the GOP is not willing to fight for its supposed principles, beliefs, or positions. It is satisfied with the slow creep of socialism and big government and has accepted that this is inevitable. Nothing will fundamentally change.

Most conservatives, with the exception of a few, can not think out of the box, nor step out of conventional thinking, nor change strategy, tactics, or their behavioral tendencies.

They are unable to see the big picture. Case in point, this weeks fiasco was not in actuality aimed at one man but rather at all of them. You aided and abetted the enemy and have now put every single candidate in the same no-win box of unfounded accusation, scrutiny, and smear. Oh, yes, you are either too stupid or stubborn to know what I am talking about. You have set a new and twisted prescendent and level of politics.

It is a party divided against itself and unable to lead. It can not control the narrative and would not know how to even if it did have the means and media to do so. No doubt about that. It is incapable of defending its candidates and its positions. It is unable to receive constructive criticism or recognize its follies and change course.

It is unable to create its own rules of the game and is always ready and willing to bow down to the rules of the game established by its opposition.
It can not see the long term picture.

It says it wants one thing in a candidate or leadership but it really does not. It wants its leaders to be the opposite of its opposition's leaders but it actually admires and expects its leaders to act, think, and do exactly as the leaders of its opposition.

So, what does this all add up to is the million dollar question. GYRZMK, you were absolutely correct. This is very difficult for me to admit. We have failed to keep it. We will lose it.

PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.4.11 @ 4:29PM

I hear ya loud and clear Simon!!!

Drunken Sailor| 11.4.11 @ 4:51PM

Divide and Conquer Simon. Sun Tzu would be impressed. I pray you and GYRZMK are wrong but unless there is a drastic change in tactics I fear you may be right.

VBMax| 11.4.11 @ 5:51PM

Take heart Simon, there are still many tough men and women who will not allow us to fail.
http://www.patriotsunion.org/

John Navratil| 11.5.11 @ 9:56AM

Simon Templar,

Great rant, but what are you going to do about it?

(1) Donate to the candidate, not the party. I quit when Bush-the-first presided over the largest tax increase in history. Spread what you have around - donate out of state.

(2) Support the conservative candidate for President. There are several, Cain, Gingrich, Santorum. Bachmann doesn't sing to me, but she'll do. Perry's pretty populist, but he will do. Romney, Paul, Huntsman will not do. This takes the fight to the Party.

(3) Vote Tea-Party or Libertarian when you can to, at least, put the go-along-to-get-along Republicans on notice, as well as to encourage the local parties to wake up.

(4) Quit putting up with pudding-headed vacuities in the social setting. No need to get snippy, but there's nothing like a conservative risposte to change the subject. At the very least on is spared the sound of a pack of liberals baying at the moon.

(5) Support voter ID requirements.

Conservatives are, by definition, not activists. They have been pulled into activity by events. Controlling the narrative (and everything else) is what activists do.

The GOP has been Democrat-lite since Pres. Ford, at least. There are two fights going on here. One for the Presidency and the other for the Party. Conservatives need a conservative party for all the obvious reasons.

Not to seem a Pollyana, but the Democrat party has been split since Carter. A party which re-elects Pelosi after such a mid-term is one which has lost touch with reality and is in single-minded pursuit of the brass ring. If and when they fall short, there will be an implosion. We are seeing it already in Obama's contribution data.

May I respectfully suggest that your rant is something of an example of what it purports to decry?

John Navratil| 11.5.11 @ 9:58AM

Simon Templar,

I should have said "Conservatives need a conservative GOP for all the obvious reasons." I don't think a third party is a solution.

somnolence| 11.4.11 @ 4:18PM

Simon, you are so right.

George S| 11.4.11 @ 5:20PM

I enjoy reading columns that purport to have an insight no one else shares. Obama -- THE INCUMBENT -- cannot even beat a generic Republican. The INCUMBENT cannot poll over 40%. The INCUMBENT cannot get the independent voter. There are very few undecided voters a FULL YEAR from the election. Democrats will run ads that not only doesn't mention Obama but won't even mention that they're Democrats -- their election strategy is to wish death upon the rich.

Now everyone just forget the last three years. It never happened. That is the teeny detail missing from this article.

longer memory| 11.4.11 @ 5:36PM

I am not going to read through all this crap to see if anyone else offered an explanation of "doctoring" which ROSE thought was sexual.

It is a southern colloquialism meaning to season. There is a product similar to Worcestershire sauce called "Dr. Tillitsuits" it on your grocer's shelf - for those with minds like a flat iron, which most of you seem to have, that (again, colloquial) means "doctor" until it suits - - your taste.

Cain was probably served tea without sugar and asked to have it added. Geez.

I once worked with a woman from Oklahoma who kept a drawer full of Tabasco, Worcestershire, salt, pepper, ketchup, mustard - - every condiment she could wedge in there - and to make matters worse, she sprinkled a litlle of everything on already salty Ramen Noodle soup. She called it "Doctorin' it up."

Look elsewhere for innuendo, you pervs. People who are pre-occupied with sex are seldom actually occupied with it.

John Navratil| 11.5.11 @ 9:23AM

longer memory,

Being from the South, I thought your definition went without saying. I read the denigration to be that Cain presumed that some woman had nothing better to do than "fix" Mr. Cain's tea. I have a tough time finding anything sexual in the comment.

The tempest in the teapot seems to be about all about asexual harassment.

Leveut| 11.4.11 @ 6:30PM

"Green Lantern is the pen-name of an East Coast writer."

Thank you Andrew Sullivan, for your latest bit of inane insanity.

Joe| 11.4.11 @ 7:00PM

Cain has never been elected to public office. While this may endear him to those searching for an outsider, it also means he's never had to campaign before. This is just the first of many times you'd see him out of his league. Be happy you got it out of your system now before you were really vested.

Mike Hawk| 11.4.11 @ 8:56PM

Herman Cain has real worl experience as he has had to meet a payroll, show a profit and manage people. Something Obama has no experience in. Not now and not before. I'll take Herman Cain.

SpiralArchitect| 11.4.11 @ 9:02PM

I believe Cain is not afraid to kick ass where appropriate ( for the benefit of the nation) either.

Enough of the weak & dismal POTUS. Putin will be the new (lol, yea I said new) Russian president soon...

BackToBasics| 11.5.11 @ 11:39PM

Agreed. I think that Cain, being a black conservative, could move the nation into a more conservative direction where a white Republican cannot, these days anyway. The PC nonsense has white males too much tied up in knots to do more tha cosmentic changes and that includes Romney, Perry and Gingrich.

chester arthur| 11.4.11 @ 9:39PM

Politico is a reliable source of political information in the same way that the local crack dealer is a reliable source of information in the correct use of pharmaceuticals.

bluecollarbytes| 11.4.11 @ 9:59PM

What a downer there...green lantern. It is politics, so why so upset and assigned to an obama win?

Cain may get taken out for some reason but this 'scandal', as yet still undetailed with a 'witness' refusing to even give her name, probably ain't it.

And Newt waits in the wings. Whatever I think of newt-baggage or his sometimes slightly-twisted big ideas, he would probably make a fine president. His 'baggage' wouldn't deter voters from kicking out head occupier obama.

but till then Cain gets my support

and we'll all wade through the politics together

Kingofthenet| 11.4.11 @ 10:08PM

Boy, This thread has some of the most sophisticated Rethug arguements I've heard to date, namely is Bitchy Queer a reason or not to Support Cain?

BackToBasics| 11.4.11 @ 10:08PM

If this flimsy allegation is all the media, the left and the RINO's have on Cain who is 65 then I doubt anything worse will be revealed. It would have come out already if there was something.

Cain will move on. After being shook a little he will be more ready for the next round of false charges.

I continue to like his many strengths and back him. But after seeing just how much the DEMs and RINO's hate and fear him, if it is early enough next year and it looks like he will get the nomination, they will likely try to run a former Republican as a moderate third party candidate in order to defeat Cain.

Dems doing this wouldn't surprise me, it would be expected. But the RINOs are showing their true colors now. I think they loathe him so much that they would risk Obam winning in 2012 just for spite against Cain and conservatives.

BackToBasics| 11.4.11 @ 10:12PM

I'll add that I do not think a 3rd party ambush would succeed this time. There's too much at stake and everyone except for RINO's who are the most blind politically, know it.

POST American| 11.4.11 @ 10:41PM

---------------------FINAL WORD-----------------------

"The Republican debates are SO
ridiculous as to be unwatchable."
-JESSE VENTURA

Kingofthenet| 11.5.11 @ 5:42AM

Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers. It tells people to go out and stick their noses in other people's business.
Jesse Ventura

He IS RIGHT!

Nick| 11.5.11 @ 4:07PM

This explains a lot about Kook of the Net.

skip| 11.5.11 @ 6:35PM

Nick,

"I like a Basic Govt. Safety Net, makes me feel I will always have someone who cares."
(Kingoftheidiots | 7.28.11 @ 5:34PM)

Apparently the sanctimonious hypocrite doesn't think government welfare is a sham sticking its nose in our business, unconstitutionally at that, much less is a crutch for a weak-minded genius like the idiot he truly is.

Nick| 11.6.11 @ 2:51PM

Skip,

Agreed. This is why Kook is the prototypical bleeding heart liberal.

Janeway| 11.5.11 @ 6:46AM

He's old school - he's a Baptist preacher and it's OK to hit on women as long as you don't ask them to dance! Cain is charming and likeable but he is not ready to lead the free world. He fears China will get nukes, needs a history and geography lesson as well as current affairs primer. All I hear from his supporters are "he mis spoke", he really meant x instead of y. We really need to replace this President and these populists will not allow it.

GeronL | 11.5.11 @ 6:53AM

10,000+ headlines on Google and no story.

POST America| 11.5.11 @ 6:56AM

------NOW, putting aside 2012 and
the FUKISHIMA world depop op-----
anytime for that FIRST article
dealing with 33rd degree Freemason,
'Christian' FAKE OP, Pat Robertson's
public greenlighting of EUGENICS
X---speediency (dumping your spouse
with Alzheimers) over Christ uttered
doctrine.

Truly a watershed in church infiltration
and a new low in moral degradation.

---------SO, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY---------

-----------------WE'LL BE WAITING-------------------

Nick| 11.5.11 @ 2:11PM

Don't forget about our "precious bodily fluids," General Ripper.

spoofproof| 11.5.11 @ 7:04AM

Willard(Mitt)Romney comes from Michigan. Mitt is a so-called moderate Republican who hails from a state that is OWNED by Democrats & Labor Unions. How do you suppose Republican Romney got elected Governor in Democrat-owned Massachusetts? By being a highly-principled, unswerving Conservative? Mitt Romney is a political shape-shifter unworthy of high office. And that's the way it is...

spoofproof| 11.5.11 @ 7:05AM

There is nothing that the Democrats have done, there is nothing that (all but a few of) the Republicans are doing that connects with We The People. The political establishment in D.C. is rotten from top to bottom. Either We reform the government now or We become wage-slaves of the corrupt politicians and their bureaucrat-henchmen. NOW IS THE TIME FOR REFORM. Consider the size & reach of government bureaucracy; consider its unhindered expansion since INCOME TAX was adopted in 1913. Herman Cain comes along and says, "We The People can throw out 82,000 pages of corrupt, incomprehensible tax law and make it simple." We The People of The United States are listening to Herman Cain. Cain connects with We The People. Bureaucrats, tax lawyers and professional politicians connect only with one-another. Reform Government Now! Go Cain Go.

martin j smith| 11.5.11 @ 7:49AM

Now that I ( we ? ) have heard comments from the lawyer representing the mystery source or leak or allegation or whatever about Cain it seems to be that this has boiled to this; A crock of shit. And you Geen Lantern bought . You and others who write or post here are fools--or trolls in some cases,, I have neither respect for you and this has again verified how incompetent the Establishment Republican Leadershit is.. G-D help us.

BackToBasics| 11.5.11 @ 10:38AM

Agreed. As I said yesterday, one way for Cain to defuse this some more is if he is asked about it again he should borrow Reagan phrase of " There you go again." Even more to the point would be to say, "Get a bigger shovel." I think it would work. Those who would pretend to melt at such a phrase will not vote for him anyway.

Clint| 11.5.11 @ 11:18AM

Meanwhile, pollster Chris Wilson — who said he polled for the National Restaurant Association during Cain’s tenure, and whose firm has more recently done work for an outside super PAC supporting Perry — told Oklahoma radio station KTOK that he had witnessed harassment by Cain toward a very low-level staffer who was maybe two years out of college.

“I was around a couple of times when this happened, and anyone who was involved with the NRA at the time knew that this was going to come up,” Wilson told interviewer Reid Mullins.

Clint| 11.5.11 @ 11:21AM

"A third woman in less than a week has come forth with allegations that GOP candidate Herman Cain exhibited unwanted behavior towards her in the past.

The latest incident, revealed by The Associated Press, suggests that the former pizzaman was inappropriately aggressive towards a female cohort that worked for the National Restaurant Association during his stint there as president in the 1990s. The woman, who offered her comments to the AP anonymously, says that Cain made sexually suggestive remarks to her and during one incident personally invited her back to Cain’s corporate apartment."

The third women isn't restricted by a confidentiality agreement.

Stogie | 11.5.11 @ 12:27PM

Herman Cain's campaign is far from dead, his sense of humor is alive and well and the Green Lantern needs a new bulb. Either that, or maybe he's writing for the wrong blog. Try the Daily Kos, GL.

kate| 11.5.11 @ 1:23PM

Too bad we don't have a mad science lab that could create the perfect candidate.
They could combine Herman's quick mind, charisma, patriotism, common sense and sensibility with Mitt's depth, experience, even temper and knowledge of issues (and studies).
Wa-la.
Unfortunately, plain common sense must prevail.
Romney/Rubio.
Mission accomplished.

Nick| 11.5.11 @ 1:40PM

Kate,

Would this "perfect candidate" also have all of Romney's flip-flops?

kate| 11.5.11 @ 2:13PM

Left out Herman's vision. He sees the big picture.

Romney is bright, but a detail guy. Remember Carter.
All detail. No vision or brains.

skip| 11.5.11 @ 2:25PM

The big spending RINO/CINO who provided the prototype for Obamacare and had no spine running the 13th most populated state in the nation will miraculously develop a spine when running the entire nation?

Reason and experience indicate Romney will cave faster than a high-speed rail train if elected.

There is no reason and experience to indicate any reason and experience for concern at this point.

November 5, 2007:
(Newsweek poll of 11/3/07)

Democrat candidates:
H. Clinton 44%
B. Obama 24%
J. Edwards 12%

Republican candidates:
R. Giuliani 30%
F. Thompson 15%
J. McCain 14%
M. Romney 12%

Mike Hawk| 11.5.11 @ 7:06PM

Giuliani was never in it. He didn't enter any primary or caucus. That's how much polls mean.

skip| 11.5.11 @ 7:53PM

I am gleefully anticipating the democrat national convention in North Carolina in '12 where the delegates will in all likelihood be at each other's throats over whether to even give the nomination to Oshitforbrains all while every senate and house democrat candidate maims anyone in their way in order to distance themselves from that lying turd who just might implode while on stage during the festivities.

kate| 11.5.11 @ 1:48PM

No.

kate| 11.5.11 @ 1:53PM

Romney would do himself and the country a huge favor and explain his flip-flops.
Everyone makes mistakes.
He needs to come clean, and be honest about it.
Americans are very forgiving to those who admit prior mistakes.
Newt is the brightest of the bunch, but he was a hypocrite going after Clinton when he was doing the same.
Americans value character and honesty.

kate| 11.5.11 @ 1:55PM

Basically, Romney needs to ask for forgiveness and quit trying to defend prior stupidity.
Hmmm. We will soon find out whether he has any common sense at all.

Nick| 11.5.11 @ 2:16PM

Kate,

Except for one thing, Romney did not make mere "mistakes". He is a two-faced, lying politician. He will say anything to get elected.

If he was really a conservative, he could have run for Michigan's governorship in 2002, against Jenny-pooh Granholm. But, he didn't. He chose to run in the People's Republic of Massachusetts, one the most liberal states in the Union.

Romney can't be trusted.

kate| 11.5.11 @ 3:00PM

Nick
So what is your answer? More Obama?

Cain lacks depth. I'm not writing him off yet, but some of his answers make me uneasy.

Romney is a decent man. He has had to play politics and I resent his dismissal of the tea party, but I don't think he is evil.
His characterization of the tea party may lose him the election.
He needs a wake-up call.
Do some research and you will find an incredibly intelligent and decent man's story.
We have to win this election.
Get him in with Rubio. If he doesn't perform then we kick his butt out and elect Rubio.

Better than 4 more years of a white house that has
lawlessly ignored the Constitution and continues to over-ride Congress. Shameless.
Not writing off Cain yet, but we have to be practical, strategic and stick together.
Otherwise, this country is finished.

skip| 11.5.11 @ 3:11PM

kate

See my posted poll above, from 4 years ago today. It is early still.

The best bet one year from now is still Perry/Rubio.

kate| 11.5.11 @ 3:31PM

Forget about it.
Skip
As I posted earlier, many had hopes that Perry would be the new Sheriff in town.
Say what you want about Bush, but at least he was incisive. (Though not in front of the camera)
Perry isn't very bright.

skip| 11.5.11 @ 6:55PM

Forget about the poll results of 4 years ago today that lined up a Hillary vs. Rudy '08 election?

Forget about Romney being a spineless big spending republican / conservative in name only?

Forget about Romney governing a state of 6 million people that is drowning in debt and mandatory healthcare?

Forget about Perry governing a state of 25 million people that is the only highly populated state showing economic growth, manageable debt, and created 3 of every 8 new jobs in the entire nation this year?

Forget how bright it is to base the desirability of either Romney or of Perry as future president by evaluating the condition of the state they respectively governed?

Or forget that if we don't do better than either Romney or Obama in '12 with a true conservative we can all kiss the nation we've known and loved goodbye?

kate| 11.5.11 @ 3:21PM

Put it this way.
Analogy.
I've had a heart attack. Mitt is the ambulance driver.
My family and I have yet to choose the Heart Surgeon.

Nick| 11.5.11 @ 3:40PM

Kate,

"He has had to play politics and I resent his dismissal of the tea party, but I don't think he is evil."

Straw man. I never claimed that Romney was "evil."

"Do some research and you will find an incredibly intelligent and decent man's story."

I have done plenty of research on the man. That is how I know that he will say anything to get elected. To presume that I haven't done my due diligence, is, well, presumptuous on your part.

"Not writing off Cain yet, but we have to be practical, strategic and stick together."

Pragmatism is what gave us McLame, remember?
Romney is the worst of all the candidates, with the exceptions of Ron Paul and Gary Johnson. If Romney is the nominee, it is 2008 all over again.

kate| 11.5.11 @ 3:45PM

Don't want to be presumptuous, but what do you propose?
Who do you want to see in the White House?

kate| 11.5.11 @ 3:50PM

Nick
BTW
Couldn't STAND McLame. I was furious.
Is that why there is all this anybody but Rom attitude?
Romney is totally different for me.
McLame was just a silly old fart the party put forward as a good ole boy favor.
God. Talk about stupid.

Nick| 11.5.11 @ 3:53PM

Kate,

I haven't made up my mind yet. We haven't had one primary, yet.

Nick| 11.5.11 @ 3:59PM

Kate,

And, McLame was a war hero, at least. He also wasn't as duplicitous as Romney. That is about the best I can say about the man.

If Romney is the nominee, even more people will stay home, or, vote third-party. Why take the chance, if you want to be practical, as you claimed we should?

Mike Hawk| 11.5.11 @ 7:02PM

That's right. Stay home, vote third party. Then let's not worry about 2016. There won't be any need to. No elections, no country.

kate| 11.5.11 @ 7:18PM

Nick
cain- smart, but inexperienced (good judgement?)
romney- smart, but wishy-washy (straw man?)
gingrich - by far the brightest and most experienced, but character issues
perry- not so smart
bachman- smart but wierd
paul- wierd

Not much to choose from.

Gingrich would easily win a debate against Obama.
I wish he hadn't cheated on his wife and gone after Clinton for doing the same.
Gingrich / Rubio?

kate| 11.5.11 @ 7:22PM

It would SO be worth Newt getting the nomination, just to see him debate Obama.
Sends shivers up my leg!

kate| 11.5.11 @ 7:28PM

Mike Hawk
I hope people go to Rubio's website and push him to accept a VP spot.
Saw an interview and he knows he is the GOP darling and he know he has a good chance at the presidency in a few years.
A little arrogant if you ask me.
I agree with you.
We need him now or there won't be anything left to save.
We can reward him with the Presidency later.
I hope he is a true patriot and understands this.

kate| 11.5.11 @ 7:49PM

Rumor is that it is going to be an Obama/Hillary ticket.

Very difficult to beat.

We will probably take back the Senate, but nothing will be fixed and we will continue our downward spiral into socialism.
Don't the dems follow what is happening in Europe?

If it is Obama/Clinton, we need to nominate Newt and let him tear apart bit by bit the Obama agenda.
Then we need him back in Congress (albeit 2 years later)
Maybe Obama would co-operate with congress in such a scenario like Bill Clinton did years ago.
A lot got done and Bill got the credit, but it was Gingrich who balanced the budget, reformed welfare and brought back prosperity.
I hope conservative start using strategy rather than tactics. Strategy requires patience, but solves long-term problems. Like #!%$ socialism.

Wayne| 11.6.11 @ 11:25AM

You are living a fantasy. Obama only wants a one-party system (like Chicago) with him as the only person that matters. An Obama - Hillary ticket would be the end of Obama.

Nick| 11.6.11 @ 2:47PM

Kate,

I'm only arguing with your point that we must be practical, and, that being practical means that we must nominate Romney.
I disagree with both.

Who should be the nominee, and who will be the nominee, are two different questions.

Christy Waters| 11.5.11 @ 2:18PM

I totally reject the conclusion of the article. I think it's completely shortsighted to write Herman Cain off, at this point. His fundraising totals have been through the roof this week. He's bringing in money hand over fist, and many of those are first time donors. The people that the elites dismiss as the riff raff are smart enough to know a smear campaign when they see one, and are frequently ahead of the curve, while the establishment types are left scratching their heads.

We, the people, like Herman Cain and we refuse to allow the elites, the pundits, or the media to choose our candidate for us. Anyone who wants to dismiss Herman Cain, does so at their own peril.

Hank Rearden| 11.5.11 @ 3:21PM

It's too bad that Cain has so damaged his campaign.

How should he have handled it?

"Mr. Cain, have you ever been acccused of sexual harassment?"

"Yes. Didn't you know that?"

kate| 11.5.11 @ 7:31PM

Hank
When will politicians follow their grandmother's advise?
"Honesty is always the best policy"

FC4HC| 11.5.11 @ 3:25PM

The Herman Cain campaign is wrapping up the vetting of media outlets. This vetting cost the campaign $0 dollars to garner the data. Thorough analysis of the data will allow the campaign to identify which outlet audiences will be included in the value added side of the campaign and those detrimental to the campaign. Using this analysis affords the best use of the campaign funds as it rolls out its radio, television, paper and online promotions for Herman Cain for President 2012 ensuring a continued zero debt operation. Priceless!

Long Island Patriot | 11.5.11 @ 5:07PM

The character assassination of Herman Cain by the media continues unabated and at best could be construed as journalistic malpractice and at worst a carefully construed plan, by the liberal and so-called conservative media, to drive a stake through the heart of Herman Cain’s candidacy. In either case, most of the media have now been exposed for the frauds that they are. If a suburban, New York housewife as me can figure out what the facts are, why can’t the so-called experts in the media? The answer is that they didn’t want to. Exerpt from my blog read my full commentary there http://longislandpatriot.wordp.....rman-cain/

Dewey| 11.5.11 @ 6:22PM

Why even post a biased article from a writer that appears to be a DC insider with a definite agenda in mind. I guess looking at the facts and the polls are not a requirement for a writer.

jack| 11.5.11 @ 7:54PM

What a joke of an article and hit piece on Mr Cain. You elitists have no clue what's good for America. Where were your articles about the alleged rape charges against Clinton? The scandals against Obama before he even ran for office. The corruption of Dodd, Reid, Rangle, Waters, Frank,... The names are endless. You have better things to write about than to think you know what's best for America. It's a sad day for the media that refuses to step up to government and be 'for' the people. It's only a matter of time before the government comes after select media.

jack| 11.5.11 @ 7:56PM

We're STILL waiting for the current President to be vetted by the media...... STILL waiting....

Bob| 11.5.11 @ 10:51PM

This is one of the weakest columns I've ever read at the American Spectator. It is causing me to wonder if it has National Review disease. The same disease that felled the mighty Buckley legacy during the 2008 election. But they seem to have righted their ship in time for the Spectator to go down. Cain's campaign isn't in shambles, the party isn't going down the drain and this column will be looked back at and laughed at for the rest of this year and all of next. What a pile of horse manure.

martin j smith| 11.6.11 @ 7:33AM

There is a long way to go to choose and I dont give a crap about any polls any more. I support Cain morally but have made NO CHOICE as ti who I would prefer. I do have a choice of two at least I would not vote for under any circumstances at all. Romney is getting very close to being in that camp but I will waite and see-- as I say--there is plenty of time for any candidate to do or say something brilliant or stupid on a grand scale.

Cato the Younger| 11.6.11 @ 8:39AM

I have been a TAS subscriber since 1979. This column is the most ham-handed piece of hack opinion I have ever read in TAS. I cannot believe RET would endorse this; clearly this piece represents a major failure on the part of the editorial staff.

Many of us wish Romney were more conservative and likeable; many wish wish Perry were more articulate and less ostentatiously Texan; many wish Gingrich had no baggage and was more electable; many wish Cain had a better grasp of policy detail and geopolitics, and had a more professional operation. But those conditions do not apply, we must pick one of them, and to paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld 'you go to the general election with the candidate you have'. Slamming the Cain candidacy's innate characteristics (e.g. political amateurism, coming from outside the establishment) is totally uncalled for. It is part of his appeal.

Clint| 11.6.11 @ 9:19AM

Reuters) - Allegations that Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain sexually harassed women in the 1990s have begun to damage his bid for the White House, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found.

The poll showed the percentage of Republicans who view Cain favorably dropped 9 percentage points, to 57 percent from 66 percent a week ago.

Wayne| 11.6.11 @ 11:21AM

Of course, the GOP establishment has thrown him under the bus, but where is the evidence?

A.M. Mallett| 11.6.11 @ 10:07AM

What in hael are you doing writing anything on what is supposed to be a conservative media site? You are promoting the same smears with the same gusto as Obama's waterboys in the MSM.

Don't blink twice or you will miss your crisis.

wodiej| 11.7.11 @ 5:10AM

Well let's see, Cain is running as a conservative aka values candidate and he has two sexual harassment settlements and a 3rd and 4th woman accusing him of inappropriate behavior. You don't think someone who claims to be conservative but has shown a lack of values is worthy? A smear is a lie and this is not. Whether he did it may be questionable at best but based on his changing story and how his staff handled it, it doesn't look good for Cain.

Patriot4Freedom| 11.9.11 @ 4:16AM

Remember, this scandal started in the 90's when two women filed complaints against him for harrassment. If Ms. Kraushaar speaks out and provides details, that may be the end for Mr. Cain!

kate| 11.6.11 @ 2:43PM

Has anyone seen the new penny? Worthless.

charles794| 11.6.11 @ 8:01PM

What an upside-down world we live!
The women are continuous sexual harassers. just look at the way they move in the streets and in the places of work, the way they pose in magazines, the way they dress (and undress), the way they talk, the way they present themselves in movies, on the TV, everywhere! That's supposed to be o.k. BUT, the moment a man just looks at them with what they think is related to sexuality - all hell breaks loose & many a man career & life is bound to be destroyed...

wodiej| 11.7.11 @ 5:07AM

Most offices have a dress code and revealing, promiscuous clothing is not allowed.

As for the rest of the time, who is telling you to look at these women who apparently are lacking in self respect and so desperate for attention? No one is going to file a lawsuit for you gawking at a woman but you might get a dirty look. Of course some men have some self control.

POST American| 11.7.11 @ 2:04AM

"The Federal Reserve has pumped
so many BILLIONS into ---(NAZI)---
Germany that they dare NOT name
the total."
-REP. Charles McFadden
1935
(the very height of the
Great Depression)

----------THINK NOW

----------------THINK --RED-- China

-------------------THINK TREASON

-------------------------THINK FAST

casquette new era | 11.7.11 @ 3:19AM

great!!!!

wodiej| 11.7.11 @ 5:03AM

Cain is not even close to being the only one to beat Obama. Beat him with what exactly? Gingrich has a fair shot. Smart and experienced. He's not my first pick but out of who is left, I think he's the best we can hope for. He would mop the floor w Obama in a debate.

As for Cain's behavior, he did this to himself. Offices have a strict code of ethics. And a manager never goes out for drinks with female co-workers as Cain did. That in itself shows extremely poor judgment. The problem is men in general find certain things acceptable that women find offensive. It is better to err on the side of caution and remember you are in the workplace and not a bar. Compliments and flirting are not part of the job description. Women just want to be respected.

Bill| 11.7.11 @ 10:05AM

Herman Cain is a RINO, he wants his 15 minutes of shame-a run for the President of America, he never cares about the issues concerning the conservatives and America. Cain is destroying the GOP, he is a mole, his job is to sabotage the GOP chances to winning back the WH and to elect Obama. Nice try, Mr. Cain.

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