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Campaign Crawlers
Cain’s Shadow War
Finger-pointing and anonymous accusers tangle the story.
Herman Cain’s presidential campaign issued a press release last night blaming the rival Republican campaign of Texas Gov. Rick Perry for a Politico article that set in motion the D.C. media’s scandal factory.
“The American people deserve better than these underhanded tactics by the Perry campaign,” Cain’s chief of staff Mark Block said in the statement. “A desperate candidate is trying to steal the Republican nomination away from Mr. Cain.”
Block cited a Forbes online article by Richard Miniter, in which Cain accused a consultant to his unsuccessful 2004 Senate campaign in Georgia, Curt Anderson, of being a conduit for the story of sexual harassment charges against Cain, which date back a dozen years to his tenure as president of the National Restaurant Association. Anderson was recently hired by the Perry campaign, and Block’s statement seemed to take for granted that this proved Cain had been targeted for an opposition research attack by his rival. “Since Politico released an attack story based on anonymous accusers, which was almost certainly provided to them by the Rick Perry campaign, Mr. Cain has taken the honorable path — he has been upfront and honest with the American people.”
Exactly how upfront and honest Cain’s responses have been is still being weighed in the balance. The Politico story cited the cases of two women, former employees of the restaurant association, who reportedly received settlements after making harassment allegations against Cain. In his speech Monday at the National Press Club, the Atlanta businessman was emphatic in denying the allegations: “I have never sexually harassed anyone.” As for the reported settlements, he said: “I hope it wasn’t for much because I didn’t do anything.”
Because the women were reportedly bound by confidentiality agreements — and were not quoted in the Politico article — it was impossible to know exactly what Cain was accused of doing, or to assess the credibility of his unnamed accusers. Many conservatives were immediately outraged by the methods used against Cain. Naming the reporters on the original story, popular blogger Glenn Reynolds asked, “Would Jonathan Martin, Maggie Haberman, Anna Palmer and Kenneth Vogel have put their names on a similar piece, with no named sources, aimed at Barack Obama? Would Politico have run it?” Radio talk-show hosts including Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin strongly defended Cain, but other expressions of support were more tangible: The campaign reported its best-ever fundraising day Monday with more than $400,000 in contributions during a 24-hour span, sources told Kerry Picket of the Washington Times.
Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal quoted Joel Bennett, a lawyer for one of the women, saying she wished to be released from her confidentiality agreement: “My client disputes Mr. Cain’s claims that he never sexually harassed anyone, and that the claims had no merit.” In an appearance on CBS Wednesday, Bennett said that the former Godfather’s Pizza CEO’s statements about the case had effectively voided the confidentiality agreement and called for “a complete public airing.” Bennett did not name his client, however, nor did the New York Times name the second accuser, a short-term employee who reportedly got a full year’s salary ($35,000) as severance pay after she became “uncomfortable” working for Cain. The article cited unnamed sources saying the woman left after an incident at a work-related event “during which there had been heavy drinking,” but added “that other factors had been involved in her severance, and that other workplace issues had been making her unhappy.”
Two developments Wednesday seemed to bode ill for Cain. The Associated Press reported that a third woman who worked for the National Restaurant Association during Cain’s tenure claimed he also harassed her: “The employee described situations in which she said Cain told her he had confided to colleagues how attractive she was and invited her to his corporate apartment outside work.” This third accused never filed a complaint, AP reported, and was not bound by a confidentiality agreement and yet she, too, was granted anonymity. The second troubling news for Cain came when Chris Wilson, a pollster who formerly worked for the restaurant association, told an Oklahoma City radio station that he was a witness to Cain’s harassment of women. “This occurred at a restaurant in Crystal City (Virginia) and everybody was aware of it,” Wilson told KTOK, adding that “so many people were aware of what took place… everybody knew with the campaign that this would eventually come up.” And he predicted that if the woman “comes out and talks about” the incident “it’ll probably be the end of his campaign.”
The consulting firm that employs Wilson has done polling for a pro-Perry political action committee, a fact that was widely cited as evidence in support of the suspicion that the Perry campaign — whose collapse in polls has coincided with Cain’s recent ascent — was responsible for pushing the harassment story to the media. In an appearance Wednesday on Fox News, Cain’s chief of staff Block said, “The actions of the Perry campaign are despicable.”
Whether the Perry campaign was behind the story is, however, less important to Cain’s fortunes now than whether the story is true. And there is no way for voters to judge the credibility of the accusations against him as long as the accusers remain anonymous. Yet reporters continue to shield the women and, late Wednesday, Bennett told the New York Times that his client “has a life to live and a career, and she doesn’t want to become another Anita Hill.” Cain’s life and career, meanwhile, are evidently viewed as collateral damage in the bizarre shadow war being fought for the 2012 Republican nomination.
About the Author
Robert Stacy McCain is co-author (with Lynn Vincent) of Donkey Cons: Sex, Crime, and Corruption in the Democratic Party (Nelson Current). He blogs at The Other McCain.
Mr ED| 11.3.11 @ 6:30AM
I donated $100.00 again to the Cain campaign. Thats the best way I can think of to stick a finger in the eyes of both Big Media and the terrified RINOs.
Jack in Wi| 11.3.11 @ 8:01AM
The Herman Cain reality shop continues unabated. All this finger pointing is making for more fun then watching the 3 stooges. Perry, Cain, and Romney are as laughable, as Larry Moe and Curly. There is only one serious candidate running for President in either party. He has been right on the problems, for decades and is the only one suggesting a way out of the huge mess we are in. It is Ron Paul for President and Rand Paul for President or ruin. They are serious, educated men who are not out there making fools of themselves like the three dopes Perry, Romney, and Cain.
Anyone but Obama and Ron Paul| 11.3.11 @ 8:40AM
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, just shut up already
Sean| 11.3.11 @ 8:59AM
We need to stop China from becoming a nuclear power!! What? You say they already have nukes?
John McC_| 11.3.11 @ 12:12PM
Mr. Cain was referring to nuclear powered aircraft carriers. You're taking his remark out of context. Go back and read the transcript or watch the video.
Sean| 11.3.11 @ 1:10PM
Yeah everyone is always taking his comments out of context. What you don't know he was joking? End of story.
Lee Ghume| 11.3.11 @ 9:03AM
If Herman Cain, Rick Perry, and Mitt Romney are the three stooges, then Ron Paul is Jerry Lewis.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.3.11 @ 10:21AM
Striking resemblance! Hey, are we sure Ron Paul is who he says he is??
Alan Brooks| 11.3.11 @ 12:26PM
Ron Paul would have a heart attack by the time he got to the WH.
Dole
McCain
Paul
OLD FARTS.
chuck| 11.3.11 @ 8:59AM
Who is Ron Paul? Is he running for President? He doesn't show up on any of the polls!
Clint| 11.3.11 @ 9:17AM
Chuckie wants the sexual harassment spot light off Herman Cain.
Paul Bot| 11.3.11 @ 10:14AM
Clintie wants the spot light turned off Ron Paul's poll numbers. Ron Paul is a non starter. When the Bruno hotel visit comes out he will go down into Huntsman terrorist.
Clint| 11.3.11 @ 10:49AM
Cuntie The BibiBot want the spotlight off The Ruling Elites' Frontman, Mittens Romney
We Are Being Set Up By These RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges For The Ruling Elites' Frontman Mittens Romney.
These Are The RINO-CINO Flunkie Stooges Who Gave Us The Serial Traitor To Conservatism, John McCain Of McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy,McCain-Lieberman,Gang Of 14, Opposing Bush Tax Cuts Of 2001 & 2003,TARP.
Now They Are Trying To Give Us RomneyCare,TARP, Cynical Flip-Flops On Abortion, Gays, Refuses to Sign Pro-Life Pledge, Illegal Immigrants, "Little Chain Saw Al" At Bain, Crony Capitalism Campaign Money Trail.....
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Dick Nome| 11.3.11 @ 11:25AM
Hey Clint, some gay guy claims you made a pass at him at a Paulbot rally. He didn't know who to compalin to. What's with that Mr.?? COme out of the closet now.
Alan Brooks| 11.3.11 @ 12:28PM
"He didn't know who to compalin to..."
Com-Palin-- that's it!
Mike Hawk| 11.3.11 @ 2:28PM
That's complain you (_!_) ..!.
Clint| 11.3.11 @ 9:29PM
More Fag Talk From A Guy Who's A Dick.
Redstateboy| 11.3.11 @ 8:47AM
count me in too Ed... $100 bucks to Cain.
Moe Blotz| 11.3.11 @ 9:05AM
I will send him a few dollars in 9s, as in $99.99. Mr. Cain would probably get a kick out of that, as he asks for $9 or $999.00 in his campaign advert.
Alan Brooks| 11.3.11 @ 2:13PM
"Cuntie The BibiBot want the spotlight off The Ruling Elites' Frontman, Mittens Romney.."
You got out the heavy artillery; I mean,"Cuntie the Bibibot"?
Goldwaterite| 11.3.11 @ 3:43PM
Excellent advice. In addition, I have severed all connections with Politico by cancelling all their "e-mail alerts" to me. The Politico smear artists may now return to their work as faithful DNC lapdogs. Go Herman!
martin j smith| 11.3.11 @ 6:36AM
It is in the interests of Romney and Perry to knock out Cain and of course Obama loves it all. Meanwhile I support Cain but leave open to the door who I will prefer as my Anti-Obama nominee.
I think this matter against Cain is disgusting and the highest level of Journalistic criminal behavior I have seen in recent days. Let me tell you something--the the Media--and I do include FOX and the WSJ in this matter dump on Cain the more support he will get--even if as a candidate their are flaws such as in foreign policy matters. In that area he nees help.
Dick Nome| 11.3.11 @ 6:37AM
THis thing has the earmarks of the ORCs (Obama Re-election Campaign.) all over it. THis same thing knocked out his potential Republican opponent in his Senate bid. If RINOs are terrifed they are afiad they will be blamed and as usual do not have the cajones to react to defend even themselves. Rahn Emanuel is all to familiar with this kind of tactic and probably knows all about what is going on here. Herman CAin has the fortitude to fight back.
Mike Rogers | 11.3.11 @ 7:49AM
Good Point - Obama used divorce records (supposedly sealed) to destroy his opponents for both state senate and US senate.
Teaghan| 11.3.11 @ 8:06AM
Good point! I had forgotten about that. It does stink of the obama/rahm team.
Mike Hawk| 11.3.11 @ 2:30PM
They were sealed. The ORCs got a compliant Liberal jusge to go outside the law and unseal them.
Mike Hawk| 11.3.11 @ 2:31PM
That is judge. 's' is next to the 'd' on the keyboard
G*d| 11.3.11 @ 8:35PM
You are forgiven my son, a slip of the digit is no sin.
Old Soldier| 11.3.11 @ 8:29AM
Nope - Obama's campaign would have kept this under wraps until next year.
This is the work of the Romney campaign. He needs Cain destroyed right now.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.3.11 @ 10:23AM
Primaries start in about a month. Obama doesn't want to face Cain. Why wait until he's the nominee when he could face a RINO like Romney or a Dunce like Perry?
RCV| 11.3.11 @ 11:34AM
Cain says it's the work of the Perry campaign. Do you know something he doesn't?
Nite| 11.3.11 @ 10:09PM
Cain has since backed off that claim according to Newsmax and Drudge. Cain was too quick to say it was Perry without any proof. I wonder if Cain will have the courtesy to apologize.
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 6:14PM
OS,
Maybe the Obamaniacs are doing it now to give them maintainable plausibility that it wasn't them....
You got to admit that Herman's relative immunity to race baiting has got to give them a lot to worry about. Especially Herman's willingness to keep going back at interviewers and debaters and just flat-assed contradict them and tell them they've got it wrong. How many decisions can Obama point to and say "I was right about that!" I think it's like maybe none, or none and a half.
Besides the Republicans are chawing each other up on this pretty good. I think if Cain let's it go it'll lose what impact it was going to have anyway. They have used it up for this campaign cycle. This is the initial flare up, in a month, it's old news. Ala both Clintons.
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 6:16PM
DOH!
Maintainable plausibility? What was I thinking?
It should be "plausible deniability."
Sorry 'bout that, Chief.
W| 11.3.11 @ 6:55PM
Cain said it is the Perry people.
Vern Crisler | 11.3.11 @ 6:54AM
If this is all that the Democrats or Republican establishment (or rival candidates) have on Herman Cain, he's going to be the nominee for the Republican party and hopefully our next President. What if every disgruntled woman came out of the woodwork and accused Perry, Romney, Obama, et al. of something "inappropriate" or other? We know only Obama would escape the media scrutiny, or they'd make excuses for him like they did with Bill Clinton.
The Cainanite rebellion is here!
Frank Drackman| 11.3.11 @ 6:55AM
I got accused of Her-Ass-Mint once merely for raising a single Eyebrow, you know, like Spock used to do when Kirk would remark about how some Alien Temptress was "Intriguing"...
I still do it occasionally, involuntarily, like yawning when one of my daughters highschool friends shows up "Sans" (that means "Without") Bra...
and what was with that Rick Perry SNL bit?
The one where he was supposed to be on Acid, or Peyote, amazing impersonation, I mean that dude looked EXACTLY like Rick Perry...
Frank
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 6:17PM
Frank,
Is it true you only have one eyebrow, but it's real wide?
HeeHaw.
Drudge Ette Obama| 11.3.11 @ 6:59AM
If the same press could only explore the allegations of an affair between Vera Baker and Obama with the same zeal.
I am uncomfortable to watch this slaughter, but Herman Cain best be able to withstand or leave the kitchen. Much more important work is out there to be done.
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 7:26AM
I am not sure who the ultimate victim will be here. Herman Cain is not dead yet, not by a long shot.
As a matter of fact, he might be pioneering a new response mode to these kind of attacks. He did foretell it two or three weeks ago.
And by playing the race card, doesn't he yet again reduce its effect, except on those who use it themselves.
I say we should wait and see, Mr. Cain is not anything if not inventive in finding new and different ways to overcome obstacles. Something conservatives have long lacked.
Mimi| 11.3.11 @ 7:31AM
Hmm....You think this is the Obama Game of " CLEAR THE FIELD "...Like he played in all his former campaigns in Illinois?
One thing is for sure lets get the facts out so we can get on with the job at hand....We need the TRUTH! We can then let the APPLES FALL where they may!!!
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 2:22PM
Yes, ma'am.
I say it ain't over til it's over.
Appleby| 11.3.11 @ 7:19AM
Why is it that the same women who speak and act like sailors on shore leave become outraged virgins when someone responds in kind? Mama and Grandmama always said that if you behave like a lady you will be treated like a lady. And they taught us the Look of Freezing Scorn that pretty much ends that kind of thing. But you cannot have it both ways: you cannot behave like the lowest class of man and expect to be treated like the highest class of woman.
Conserdude| 11.3.11 @ 7:22AM
Cain has badly botched this story which he had to know would surface. His campaign team, whoever they are, is rank amateur. And the attack on Perry, even if true, was pointless and foolish It was fun while it lasted Herman. Your toast
Mimi| 11.3.11 @ 7:36AM
I said this about Newt, many moons ago and GOD BLESS him he's looking better than all every day ! We have alot to find out....I hate this CRAP!
James Lee| 11.4.11 @ 2:21PM
And how do you think dude that he should have handled this media attack? What exactly do you believe would have been an appropriate response?
Bumr50| 11.3.11 @ 7:29AM
The Cain Train rolls on.
This has only bolstered his support.
LLa| 11.3.11 @ 7:35AM
When are they going to roll out the charges form the
anonymous three dead women?
Clint| 11.3.11 @ 7:36AM
Herman Cain has more trouble.
" Herman Cain's campaign Wednesday called a report of a third former employee claiming he engaged in inappropriate behavior an example of "baseless allegations."
The former National Restaurant Association employee said she considered filing a workplace complaint against Cain, the Associated Press reported. She said that Cain made sexually suggestive remarks or gestures and that the behavior included a private invitation to Cain's corporate apartment, according to the AP. The two worked together in the late 1990s, the report said."
Mike Rogers | 11.3.11 @ 7:53AM
No confidentiality agreement covers this alleged "third" woman, therefore she should put up instead of putting out, or shut up.
Then again, if there's no name, it may be a complete media fiction.
Clint| 11.3.11 @ 8:09AM
That's right.
Let's see if The Cain Camp " Puts Up Or Shuts Up " & challenges her.
She's not handcuffed with a confidentiality agreement.
Dick Nome| 11.3.11 @ 11:22AM
No agreement, no allegation made, no substance. What the hell are you looking for?? Hey Clint, there's an unsubstantiated rumor that you groped three women at a Paulbot rally. Come clean now. Why did you do it.
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 2:24PM
Dick;
[Remember it's about the seriousness of the charges!!]
[TAS sarcasm font!]
Dick Nome| 11.3.11 @ 2:35PM
I heard Clint flashed some young girls at a Paulbot rally last summer. I want Clint to come clean. There is no confidentiality agreement. Come on Clint, why did you do it? Did you pay them off to shut them up. How much did it cost you??
Drunken Sailor| 11.3.11 @ 3:13PM
From what I hear he had to offer them quite a lot before they stopped laughing.
Peter Yankoff| 11.3.11 @ 3:49PM
As nobody had heard that part , it wqas probably of small consequence.
Clint| 11.3.11 @ 9:32PM
You're A Dick.
sha44ss| 11.3.11 @ 4:23PM
SO WHAT??? Where is the PROOF? Where are the WOMEN? They can say whatever they want it doesnt make it TRUE! Herman---let it DIE...because it WILL! The more they attack him the more people will SUPPORT him!
Bob| 11.3.11 @ 7:38AM
Remember Perry's Rock and then Cain came out with an oblique attack on Perry calling the incident insensitive. Well Perry's brigade returned fire and both candidates self-immolating. Revenge is sweet and Romney's campaign is all sugar, not brown sugar however.
Ken (Old Texican)| 11.3.11 @ 7:41AM
PERRY IS NOT STUPID!
Lynching a black man is NOT a smart campaign move.
ergo. Perry's campaign did not air these allegations.
PS: why can't I get the volume up to hear all of Perry's New Hampshire speech? The parts I COULD hear were hilarious. This is the Perry we in Texas have come to appreciate deeply.
Mike Rogers | 11.3.11 @ 7:56AM
Even if Perry is not stupid, some of the operatives associated with the campaign don't seem so smart.
At least one "source" has Perry links - although that may only mean that the "source" has an agenda, not Perry himself.
Nite| 11.3.11 @ 10:13PM
Cain has backed off the claim that the Perry campaign was the leakers. Besides, this is Obama's style, not Perry's.
Frank Drackman| 11.3.11 @ 8:21AM
I agree, Perrys not stupid.
And when you type in all caps, ITS LIKE YOUR SHOUTING.
and he's not stupid, anymore than Cheech, Chong, Spick-coli, John Lennon, or Jim Morrison were "stupid"..
but he was on SOME mind-altering substance, and I'm not talkin bout' Firewater, Willis...
Frank
Frank Drackman| 11.3.11 @ 7:43AM
During medical internship I was in the bathroom.
Takin a #2, a Dumpie-Wumpie, Layin Pipe, settin a sailor to Sea, Def-a-Jam-catin'.
When my pager went off, not an emergency, I was coverin OB, but there weren't any Bee-Otches laborin, so it was something minor.
Like some Bee-otches snatch bleeding too much, too little, there never satisfied...
But since there wasn't a phone in the toilet, and cell phones only existed in James Bond movies, I had to wait like 5 minutes till I answered the page.
OK, maybe it was 15 minutes, don't you hate when the turd doesn't break off clean, and you have to use like a whole roll of TP ?
Anyway, the Nurse got all up in Mah' Grill, demanding to know where I was, and I said
"Jerkin Off"
OK, I might have said "Jerkin Off, Bitch"
still, I got a nasty-gram in my Permanent Record, and if I'd wanted to go into OB it might have been a problem...
Frank
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.3.11 @ 7:49AM
I wouldn't put it past Perry for one second. I think we all saw his childish attempt to smear Mitt with the story about lawnworkers. Oh well, better to get it out now and get it clarified than wait until he's running against Obama.
But until I see some proof of any real wrong-doing, GO HERMAN!!!!
chuck| 11.3.11 @ 8:49AM
I'm with you, I believe Perry, or someone in his campaign is behind this. Remember that he used to be a Democrat, a Southern conservative Democrat, all of which are now Republicans, and it's not like the Democrats haven't used this same card before.
Call it the 'Where da white women at?" card.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.3.11 @ 10:04AM
Exactly, and when its Bill Clinton, democrats say it doesn't matter what he does in his personal life. Only difference is, with clinton, it was sexual ASSAULT, not sexual harassment.
"Just kiss it." -- Slick Willie
Michael Tomlinson| 11.3.11 @ 7:51AM
"Exactly how upfront and honest Cain's responses have been is still being weighed in the balance." The key word is “responses.” Shouldn’t that make McCain mildly incredulous about Cain’s honesty? Like Bill Clinton, who Cain supported and voted for in 1992 (long after Rick Perry was a Republican), maybe Cain should learn to parse his words more effectively rather than follow his tired script of deny and then clarify multiple times. Of course, he could have told the truth that his campaign knew this was coming around the time Anderson was hired by Rick Perry (who Cain readily smears without proof as easily as Obama disparages Republicans and the Tea Party), but that was too hard to do. It is likely Politico has had this story for some time, but was waiting to use it if Cain became a valid candidate – why waste the ammunition on a non-entity.
To resolve this tempest in a teapot or sleazy scandal (thanks to Cain we don’t know which one it is) he needs to release the women from their confidentiality agreement – only he can do it. His laying the burden on the National Restaurant Association that due to fiduciary and legal obligations will not release them; make it appear Cain is uncomfortable with what his accusers have to say.
If this is nothing or can be readily interpreted to his adoring fans then what has he got to hide? I’m sure the loyal “Cainines” could swallow their scruples. It would be the Herminator against the “gold diggers.” As the Kennedy’s and Clinton proved the “trailer trash” always loses up against a powerful and self-important male buoyed by implacable followers.
Like another inexperienced politician, Barack Obama, Cain seems to prefer controversy to being candid.
Ryan| 11.3.11 @ 9:11AM
You've hit on what has bothered me about the situation the entire time. Not the validity of the accusations, but that the Cain and his campaign has done a VERY poor job at handling the situation.
Michael Tomlinson| 11.3.11 @ 10:59AM
I think started off to either get his name out there to further his marketability or as a "conservative" stalking horse for Romney (to do Romney's dirty work on a real conservative). Then thank to the Tea Party's fixation on inexperienced candidates that latched on to this lobbyist, because he was a smooth talker and to hell with what he actually believed or said (reminiscent of the Tea Party support for the abysmal Sharron Angle and the even worse Christine O'Donnell). Now this has come up and they're ready to behave like Democrats call a racial attack, blame innocent parties without proof or savage the women without information that only Herman Cain can allow to go public.
victor| 11.3.11 @ 5:05PM
"He hasn't handled a largely irrelevant media ambush very well. He isn't a sufficiently good enough liar to be president, I guess. So we've all seen enough. He doesn't know how to lie. He doesn't know how to go out and attack his accusers. He doesn't know how to have a Bimbo Eruptions Department. He doesn't know how to destroy everybody involved in the investigation. He's a rank amateur and he doesn't know how to deal with this. Similar to Newt Gingrich, who didn't bat down the story of visiting his soon-to-be-ex wife when she was in the hospital. That's a story that survived for years. I know women who hate Gingrich because of this story. It turns out to be not true."
~ Rush Limbaugh
Cain Didn't Handle This Right?
November 03, 2011
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/da.....this_right
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.3.11 @ 7:53AM
With that being said, so-called conservatives, can we at least wait until there is some kind of proof? I mean, who's to say Obama isn't behind this hit-job because Cain is who they fear the most?
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.3.11 @ 10:26AM
Wouldn't surprise me that Obama is behind this. They probably see the numbers of how 1/5 of the american population would consider voting republican for the first time in their life. The Black Population, who voted 99% for Obama. Can't have a black man who speaks of Conservative values as the other choice. Black people might accept Conservative ideas if that were the case. We can't have that.
Clint| 11.3.11 @ 7:55AM
Herman Cain blames Rick Perry.
" WASHINGTON — A defiant Herman Cain accused Gov. Rick Perry of Texas, a Republican rival, of orchestrating a smear campaign to destroy his presidential candidacy, as additional accusations emerged Wednesday that Mr. Cain made unwanted sexual overtures to women while he led the National Restaurant Association more than a decade ago. "
chuck| 11.3.11 @ 8:55AM
Damn Clint, if your just going to cut and paste articles, why not just start your own web page, like the Drudge Report. But what to call it?
Sludge Report?
Grudge Report?
SkinHead Report?
Idiot Report?
RonPaulButt-Licking Report?
Clint| 11.3.11 @ 9:13AM
Damn Chuckie !
A Third Woman has come forward about Herman Cain.
And she isn't handcuffed with a confidentiality agreement.
Apparently, Chuckie wants the spot light off Herman Cain.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.3.11 @ 10:00AM
Where is this "Third Woman"? As a matter of fact, where is the First and Second woman who have "Come Forward"? I haven't seen one yet!
Clint| 11.3.11 @ 10:52AM
Rumor has it that it's your old lady & your two daughters.
just sayin'
Blame it on Rick Perry.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.3.11 @ 11:02AM
I don't have any children, but nice insult there buddy. Reminds me of the good ole days of grade school.
Can't take it when you're forced to produce evidence to go along with your smears, huh?
Dick Nome| 11.3.11 @ 11:19AM
He's a juvenile jerk-o . It's fun to tweak him and see how he flips out. Easy too.
PhilTheCapitalistPig| 11.3.11 @ 11:34AM
The real question is, with all the problems today, does it matter if Herman told a woman she reminded him of his wife? Does it matter if he had sex with her for that matter?
chuck| 11.3.11 @ 11:49AM
Damn, I've told women that they remind me of my wife. Guess I'm a serial harasser too!
Harassers For Herman!
Probably not a good slogan.
Mike Hawk| 11.3.11 @ 1:15PM
Any woman who reminds me of my ex-wife is one I would stay away from.
ncatty| 11.3.11 @ 12:18PM
Even if it is all true, I don't think it disqualifies him.
Moe Blotz| 11.3.11 @ 1:15PM
The late Ted Kennedy thought harass referred to the rearward portion of a woman's anatomy.
Dick Nome| 11.3.11 @ 2:50PM
As a youth Kennedy heard philanthropy was a good thing for a person to do especially if you had wealth. He went to look it up and stopped when he got to philandering in his dictionary and got confused.
Pecos Pete| 11.3.11 @ 7:58AM
Obviously something happened while Cain was at the NRA. Confidentiality Agreements require silence from all parties of the agreement.
Regardless of the "complaints" about Herman Cain, he is not a socialist or a statist. Our current governing elite are, of course, pure of all human sins. They have only driven the USA to the edge of bankruptcy which is not a sin, right?
Looks to me like Mr. Cain might be able to bring the USA back from bankruptcy. Maybe Perry could too. I'm not so sure about Romney who looks like, talks like and acts like a member of the Ruling Class and a true statist.
somnolence| 11.3.11 @ 8:07AM
No, if the two women in question signed an agreement, Cain would be the one who shows more principle by demanding that they uphold the agreement. End of the story, if there ever really was one. I tell you what, if anybody on Earth believes that "come on up to my hotel room" is enough to end a campaign you are very delusional.
Teaghan| 11.3.11 @ 8:11AM
Did anyone see Cain's campaign manager last night on Bret Baier at 6? The man is in over his head. He had to read his statement from a paper in front of him. It was embarrassing to watch and if this is the best Cain can get to manage him, it's no wonder he's in this mess. Good Lord.
sha44ss| 11.3.11 @ 4:29PM
At least he didnt need a telepromter! What is wrong with having NOTES? Did you ever make a speech? Most people cant make them without notes or notecards!
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 5:01PM
Especially when 10,000 reporters are attempting to parse every word, syllable, pause, hesitation, intonation, emanation, hair follicle movement....
Read it and get it right. If you do that, and do it flatly, it sure takes the fun and entertainment out of the parsing game...
somnolence| 11.3.11 @ 8:11AM
How many of us potentially could "recall" an instance, conveniently of course, in which a wealthy entrepreneur, either male or female, made a pass at us. Oh, how our recall is replenished when money and power is involved. I talked to someone(a guy) who swears that Meg Whitman made a seductive pass at him. Know what I mean?
somnolence| 11.3.11 @ 8:15AM
The latest bit of news points also to Rahm Emanuel's involvement. When someone like Wilson, who has worked for both Perry and Romney, is willing to give a radio interview assuring Cain's demise, what does that tell you? Wilson worked for Cain's failed 2004 senatorial campaign. He either feels slighted or may have been paid off. All this mess is atypical within the court of "the king of torts".
Frank Drackman| 11.3.11 @ 8:18AM
I don't know about y'all
but I DON'T like Rick Perry's Flat Tax.
And I know the Peas-Eater-in-Chief will throw out the first pitch of the Iranian Cricket season before Rick Perry wins the Repubiclan nomination.
I LIKE deducting my business expenses, gambling losses, depreciation, heck, I'd depreciate my Wife if I could...
I mean she doesn't have nearly as much sex left as when I married her 20 years ago..
And thats the beauty of the present system, you can deduct ANYTHANG, or not even pay at all, like that dude from "Blade" and 90% of Black elected Office holders...
In fact a friend of mine, lets just call him "Tyrone Washington" if you nome sayin', didn't pay taxes for like 5 years, heck, not just didn't pay, didn't even file, he had this theory that the almost a million clams he earned a year as an Interventional Radiologist wasn't "Income" cause he was recieving it in return for a service, even had the pamphlets documenting it, complete with pocket U.S. Constitution with appropriate passages high-lited...
he gets out of Allenwood in 2019...
Frank
Clinton| 11.3.11 @ 8:59AM
One of the best articles written about The Great Pretender! If you're gaga for Herman Cain you may want an adult present to hold your hand, because it's pretty scary myth shattering.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....print.html
Finrod| 11.3.11 @ 1:37PM
If you believe a fishwrap like the WaPo, that says more about you than it does Herman Cain. I suppose you believe WaPo's total crap about Rubio as well.
Redstateboy| 11.3.11 @ 9:14AM
When I'm between calls and Clint or Dave from WI get too tiresome.. I'll check out Comcast (since we're blocked from any other site that has the title: "News" in it.) and AP disgusts (and therefore - Comcast) me. AP doesn't even Try to seem impartial or objective - they Are the Propaganda arm of the DNC - No F'n doubt about it. I even attempted to "contact" AP wanting to tell them what pieces of Schitt they are - conveniently, their site has no such outlet. They want Cain's blood and this IS a Lynching.. Who Dare a Black man.. A Conservative - Black man Dare! Dare! leave the Democrat Plantation!?! He must be destroyed - for the sake of the Plantation - Why we can't allow Blacks to begin to think there's another world out there besides the Plantation! Crucify Him! Give us Barabas!! (Obama)
Derek Leaberry| 11.3.11 @ 9:17AM
I would guess that Cain is guilty of no more than crude, ungentlemanly behavior, a pattern of behavior too easily accepted by modern Americans and many conservatives. What is disturbing is that dishonorable behavior is so accepted not only by your average American but by so many who call themselves "conservative." Remember how many "conservatives" were so delighted to explain luridly the sins of Bill Clinton 13 years ago?
Cain is not guilty of sexual harassment. Yet it would appear that he is no gentleman that George Washington, Robert E. Lee or Theodore Roosevelt would recognize.
somnolence| 11.3.11 @ 9:18AM
I read the Washington Post article. So you want to know my opinion of it? When that one particular reporter persisted in asking Cain a question Cain had already stated that he had addressed, he should have made his best effort to totally drive the bridge of the reporter's nose through his brain. I can tell you that is what Truman and Goldwater probably would have done. The very reason Cain may become President is the exasperation and desperation to the contrary displayed in that pathetic Post article. And after all, it is the Washington Post. lol.
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 5:02PM
Remember, "what? Are you stuck on stupid?"
Chuck| 11.3.11 @ 9:22AM
Read between the lines with Herman Cain. Cain like Romney has limited bona fide conservative credentials. Romney continues to dissemble but that's another story. Cain on the other hand when under pressure has begun to show his true nature. I don't know what he did with these women if anything but that's not the point. The point is like Romney Cain is a closet liberal. For example: abortion answers leaves open a huge gap to continue Roe v. Wade, supports affirmative action, voted twice for Bill Clinton, tax plan institutes a sales tax possibly morphing to a VAT, played the race card with Perry's rock and now the race card in his own scandal. There is much more disturbing about this man including his position on the Federal Reserve and sadly as the campaign drags on Herman Cain is perceived as the stereotypical sexually aggressive and aggrieved black man blaming his problems on racial injustice.
Louis Jenkins| 11.3.11 @ 9:25AM
Has Obama ever made advances towards the fairer of the sex? He's so busy screwing up the USA that I doubt he has. But his muck raking machine is going full blast. Get on with it boys, time is a wasting. Pull your dirtiest tricks.
Michael Tomlinson| 11.3.11 @ 9:35AM
Chuck:
You have nailed why after he played the race card on Rick Perry, based on a sleazy liberal WAPO hit piece, I dug a little deeper into Herman Cain and what I found convinced me he's a self-centered and opportunistic politician not unlike Obama.
I believe he only voted once for Clinton in 1992 and when he became a lobbyist (that's what being the chairman of the National Restaurant Assoc. is) he joined the GOP.
somnolence| 11.3.11 @ 9:42AM
Obama with the fairer sex? Not according to Larry Sinclair.
martin j smith| 11.3.11 @ 9:51AM
Andrew Breitbart--we need you now--not la;ter right now--get to work on Obama.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I support Herman Cain because he is being smeared .
Until and unless someone has hard evidence--Cain is the man just because of this attempted personal smear.
The Republican Party has work to do if it wants to exist after 2012 because in comparison to Obama who at least caters
to his base, the Republican Party throws us under the bus. That is very naughty and will lead to big defections. Just watch it.
GW| 11.3.11 @ 12:32PM
See this is the worst reaction to have. You will vote for Cain because allegations which may or may not be true came out against him? At best you should be neutral (i.e. wait until all the facts come out), or suspicious (why has Cain changed his story so many times) about what happened.
Too many conservatives feel like defending candidates too weak to stand on their own merits (Palin). If Cain and his campaign cannot handle this issue, how can his administration pass needed fiscal cuts through a stonewalling Senate? How will Cain understand foreign policy well enough to defend American interests overseas if he has trouble remembering such an important issue in his work career?
Chiefparker | 11.3.11 @ 2:59PM
Yo, GW
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 6:21PM
GW;
It may not be sympathy - it may be the understanding that the statists on both sides of the aisle react most strongly to those who threaten their hegemony the most. A big reaction to a candidate may actually be a very sure way to pick a solid conservative out of a sea of CINO's. I've seen a lot of dopier thought processes displayed in these here parts.
somnolence| 11.3.11 @ 9:56AM
Martin, you are so right. Many within the GOP(I watch Rove with a wary eye among others)have the long knives out for anyone threatening the coronation of Romney, or those who dare to upset their cozy Washington inside positions. Take a look at "The Five" on Fox in the afternoons, and it is obvious that other than Beckel, most are in the tank for Romney.
Paul from SA| 11.3.11 @ 11:11AM
They are in love with Romney. It's difficult for the Fox News staff to avoid saying something negative about Perry or Cain at every opportunity, while skipping Romney, Gingrich, Bachmann or Paul. It's the anti-Perry channel, and now becoming the anti-Cain channel.
Rove, Morris, Hume, Krauthammer, et al work for the Romney campaign.
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 5:06PM
Remember how that crew was going to end the Democrat party in 2004? They were going to destroy it by having W go way center. Remember that hubris? Those guys really have no shame, they should just slink away.
Morris is probably the least offensive of that crew, Rove far and away the worst. And Chuck Krauthammer should go back to the land of the Quebecois-his idea of conservatism is Nixonian big government statism!
Nite| 11.3.11 @ 10:23PM
Eric on the "5" is not anti-Perry and neither is Hannity, but Chris Wallace is the worst. Conservatives can't hardly get a fair shake on Fox anymore.
Con Chef (NB) | 11.3.11 @ 12:35PM
Somnolence:
I haven't seen "The Five" in a while. Is my Greek Goddess, Andrea Tantaros in the tank for Romney as well?! SAY IT AIN'T SO!
talkradio55| 11.3.11 @ 2:06PM
She doesn't appear to be a Romney shill and Kimberley Guilfoyle has often spoke well of Mr. Cain and continues to do so. Bolling is for Perry, but he's honest about it, Perino, I don't know and same for Gutfeld.
Con Chef (NB) | 11.3.11 @ 2:22PM
Thank the Lord! She's too hot & smart to be a damned Romney supporter. And I'd expect better out of Bolling.
Thanks for your reply.
Drunken Sailor| 11.3.11 @ 10:20AM
Lets see, A hit piece by a journalist that writes flowery pieces for Mitt Romney, more statements from a Rick Perry campaign staffer who worked for Herman Cain in the past and I am supposed to believe all of this ISN'T just dirty politics? Yea OK, when the women step forward with details then I will give it some thought.
Jonathan Martins Romney love letter from Oct
http://www.politico.com/news/s.....65727.html
Curt Anderson once worked for Cain but is now a Perry Staffer.
http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....nt-claims/
loulou| 11.3.11 @ 12:12PM
Actually, I've already given this issue all the thought I'm going to give it. I'm not interested. I suspect Herman Cain winked at the broads sometime in the '90s. Back then broads were trolling for sexual harassment lawsuits--a twofer: easy money and make a feminist statement at the same time. Another thing to consider: he may have rejected their advances.
Whatever happened must be put into context (as the lefties like to say) to see that it is much ado about nothing.
Time to give more money to Cain.
GW| 11.3.11 @ 12:36PM
Not at all. If Cain is truly innocent, the claims shouldn't be hard to explain this away. His recent statements, behavior, and actions aren't those of an innocent man.
Finrod| 11.3.11 @ 1:41PM
In the world of sexual harassment, all men are presumed guilty until proven innocent, and sometimes even then are still presumed guilty.
Your statement just plain does not hold water.
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 5:11PM
No, you got it wrong. It's:
All men are presumed guilty, until proven guilty.
If guilt cannot be proven then the seriousness of the charge made by the woman proves that the man is guilty, otherwise she would never have made the charge, except in the case of liberal Democrats.
First corollary:
Women never lie about sex.
Second corollary:
Men never tell the truth about sex.
Got it?
CalMark| 11.3.11 @ 2:10PM
It's impossible to "explain this away" with sexual harassment.
Once a man is tarred with that brush, it stays with him. It's a scarlet letter, no matter how undeserved, because it's based on a woman's "feelings." And in this feminist age, who would even DARE dispute a woman's "feelings?"
Paul from SA| 11.3.11 @ 11:07AM
Cain has now lost me as a supporter and defender. I need to see some evidence that the Perry campaign was behind the charges of sexual harassment. Blaming Perry without evidence is unacceptable.
Cromulent| 11.3.11 @ 12:04PM
From the article:
"has a life to live and a career, and she doesn't want to become another Anita Hill."
Well, if she isn't lying than she won't be another Anita Hill.
Clint Fellates Ron Paul| 11.3.11 @ 12:17PM
Slob Ron Paul's knob with me! I'm the only TRUE conservative on Am Spec. I donate freely to the Ron Paul retirement fund because my un-electable candidate will never win, but he'll sure use his dough to retire on.
Clint's Dos Equis commercial:
Oh, and anyone who supports Israel is an Israel firster. People like me, who's parent's were Buhndists, are, in all reality, Palestine & Iran FISTERS.
"If his words carried weight, your head would float off your shoulders for listening to him."
"If he were to punch you in the face, like he threatened to do to his fellow Tea Partiers, you'd think you just got bitten by a gnat."
"He KNOWS that Ron Paul is the only person alive who can answer the burning question of what the sound of one hand clapping actually sounds like."
"He is... THE MOST INSIPID MAN IN THE WORLD!"
"I don't always make an ass of myself online, but when I do, I prefer to do it on Am Spec. Stay stupid, my friends!"
GW| 11.3.11 @ 12:37PM
Ok, a bit much. The article is about Cain and his guilt/innocence. Ron Paul won't win, so there is no reason to make crude jokes about his supporters.
Con Chef (NB) | 11.3.11 @ 12:40PM
Whomever wrote it thought the same thing I've thought since Clint started posting his borderline Stormfront bullcrap here. He deserves everything that comes his way. To hell with his Nazi ass.
chuck| 11.3.11 @ 4:47PM
Thanks for the laugh!
I think both the Most Interesting Man, and The Most Insipid Man have latent homosexual tendencies.
Clint: " I don't always have sex with actual human beings, but when I do, I fantasize about Ron Paul!"
somnolence| 11.3.11 @ 12:25PM
To simplify this current infatuation by the media with Cain's so-called scandal, it goes like this with me: The women in question settled financially over a dozen years ago. So they just now surface to voice their pain? They have had a dozen years to go running to an attorney, and since Boy Clinton set the precedence in 1992 with Gennifer Flowers, it is a non-issue(we were told this over and over). Therefore, more than likely, I am totally oblivious to any other candidate, with the possible exception of Bachmann or Santorum. In the end, it is all bogus because they are reluctant to show their faces, and the burden of proof is on them, not Cain. He has deep pockets, and it was simply more convenient to offer sweet remuneration(severance). How convenient to hire a former Cain insider along with another titan of torts attorney to burst a political ascendancy. Like I say, I wouldn't care if Cain punched somebody out before long. In fact, he would score more points if he did.
GW| 11.3.11 @ 12:43PM
But this doesn't help him in the general. I understand the frustration with the allegations (no solid evidence has been offered against Cain), but it is more concerning to me that Cain hasn't really answered them. He has had a half-dozen different answers and excuses about the incident(s), and unless he can turn it around his campaign will begin to lose supporters. When is the last time you heard something positive coming out of the Cain campaign? (Remember when 999 was all the rage?) How can a candidate run on "I was smeared so vote for me?" He needs to return to a positive, pro-market, anti-Washington, pro-growth, anti-Obama campaign else he's toast.
Now he is on the defensive, over a seemingly minor issue. Part of politics is being smeared. Inexperienced or naive candidates (Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle, Christine O'Donnell, and now Herman Cain) need to know this and be more offensive/less defensive.
talkradio55| 11.3.11 @ 2:10PM
Exactly right! The burden of proof is always supposed to be on the accuser. But with conservatives, "it's not the nature of the evidence, it's the seriousness of the charge." It's so infuriating that accusations by anonymous punks are being taken as gospel.
martin j smith| 11.3.11 @ 12:36PM
Perry's camp was accused for some reason not because his name begins with P or his first name begins with R. Now as for Cain and these allegations without and hard or any evidence at all just accusations, It is clearly a political hit peice and as I recall ( not talking as a lawyer ) there was a connection in the Food Trade group who was associated with the Perry Camp. By the way: Has Perry yet publicly denied involvement ? Maybe some one has heard I have not. And how about Perry and Romney denouncing the
MSM for this kind of smear --any one hear about that ? I have not as of yet. So you have a candidate being smeared without hard facts based on say so supported by politically motivated media and at the very least of use to BOTH Establishment Repyubiks and Obama Socialists. Is that not cute ?
Nite| 11.3.11 @ 10:27PM
Yes Perry gave an absolute denial last night on Fox.
A.M. Mallett| 11.3.11 @ 12:43PM
This is a shame because when the frenzy is boiled away, none of these charges amount to anything more than trivial nonsense. This country had a rapist and misogynist in the White House for two terms and did not care. We have a terrorist sympathizer and follower of a radical racist religious nut in office now. Herman Cain might have made a half-hearted pass at an attractive woman 20 years ago and establishment sycophants want his genitals on a patter. To that I sya, write a check to the Cain campaign and get on board behind a pretty decent fellow who makes no claim of perfection.
GW| 11.3.11 @ 12:50PM
The point really isn't about whether Cain is innocent or guilty. If he were guilty, admitted and apologized for what he had done, and moved on he would have support and respect from even non-conservatives. Instead, he seems to be hiding something in every criptic response he gives (even to Greta on a friendly network).
Of course to his defenders, Cain is the victim of racism and all other sorts of malicious and irrational bigotry. This is worse than how liberals act. Please, don't insult my intelligence this way. Cain is running for the highest office in our republic, and perhaps the most important job in the world. If he can't answer allegations from 15 years ago, how can he get legislation or judicial nominees through a stubborn Senate? How can he pursuade foreign nations to adopt pro-American policies? Of course the left wants to see Cain fail, do we not want to see Obama stumble politically? But this has little to do with racism and nothing to do with whether or not Cain should be supported and voted for.
Ultimately and paradoxically, Cain's biggest strength (his outsider status) has become his biggest weakness. Naivety is a poor trait in leadership, yet for some reason conservatives seem to desire it recently (Sharron Angle, Sarah Palin, Christine McDonnell, Herman Cain).
Clint Fellates Ron Paul| 11.3.11 @ 12:54PM
Regresssives piss & moan about things like this all the time with black conservatives. Its as predictable as the sunrise. Meanwhile, these same, smug, mostly white libs of "popular culture" & politics are the ones who tell us that rap is "art." All music is art, to some degree. But let's take a close look at some of the "art" from rap lyrics. Having listened to my fair share up until even as few as 3 or 4 years ago, here's some of the older school lines I remember:
"B**ches ain't sh!t but hoes & tricks lick on dees nut & suck da d**k."...Snoop Dogg
"I'm a go-rilla pimp, you can call me Grape Ape, knock yo teefis outchyo mouf, need ta gitcho sh*t straight."...Project Pat, "Chickenheads"
"All that loud talkin ho, need ta go on settle down, 'fo yo friend have to pick yo ass up off da groun."... Project Pat, "Chickenheads"
Just YouTube the 2nd song. You'll hear "fo yo" self.
But nope. Herman Cain might've (insert gasp here) WINKED AT A WOMAN! This must mean that he's a closet sex offender, right? Give me a freaking break. And these same libs who call rap like the stuff I listed "art" are also the same ones who would've sucked the stain outta the blue dress themselves, if given the chance. We had to see & hear about Weiner's weenie for HOW long before he got booted for it? Jack & Teddy "Hope You Can Swim, Mary Jo" Kennedy, Corzine, & Edwards are all the same. NOTORIOUS philaderers whom liberals STILL LAUD to this day! Hell, Teddy was called the "Lion of the Senate" after he KILLED A WOMAN, FOR G*D'S SAKE.
Hypocrisy, thy name is liberal.
somnolence| 11.3.11 @ 1:08PM
To all those with short-term memory loss, Cain and Newt have a Lincoln-Douglas style debate Saturday at The Woodlands in Houston. I don't believe that the current nonsense infatuation will be brought up, but count on economic and foreign policy issues being thoroughly addressed. So, does anyone REALLY think Cain is through, or that he will be brought down to a diminished cipher in the primaries?
Controse| 11.3.11 @ 1:08PM
"bizarre shadow war" my ass. There is nothing bizarre about it. It is standard operating procedure of liberal media. Let's come up with some rumors and take everyone's mind off the train wreak that is the Obama presidency. After what filled the airways and editorial pages of our national newspapers for weeks on the subject of Sarah Palin how could you refer to this comparative trifle of a smear as bizarre?
somnolence| 11.3.11 @ 1:10PM
It doesn't hinder him in the general election, either because the election will be about Barack Obama, not Herman Cain.
Barbara Espinosa | 11.3.11 @ 2:06PM
· Except of memo written in 1999 by " Rob Meyne" I published it on www.americanfreedombybarbara.com about Cain on Oct. 23rd "Cain, Now Running as Outsider, Came to Washington as Lobbyist"
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He is a wonderful speaker, and would be an effective and charismatic candidate . He Is also good on our issues . He does have some negatives, including no natural geo$raphic base from which to run (he still maintains a home in Nebraska, but has lived mostly in D . C. and on the road in the past two years), and his fundraising ability Is unproven . There would be other weaknesses for him to overcome, including a few I won't relate in my e-mail, but will pass on to you in person if you are interested".
I have a gut feeling this paragraph pertains to Cain’s sexual harassment allegations.
Also:Who Leaked the Story? The Right? The Left? OR HERMAN CAIN?
GregA| 11.3.11 @ 2:10PM
I'm shocked -- shocked I tell you! -- to find dirt being thrown by a politician at an opponent during a campaign. Personally, I thought it was more characteristic of the Romney campaign to throw this kind of thing at an opponent, but if it's Perry, well, I'm disappointed in Perry. But this doesn't deflect from the fact that Cain hasn't very adroitly responded to this "revelation." I'm inclined to vote for him, but his floundering on this issue makes his campaign look like Amateur Hour on display...which it kind of is.
Granite Sentry | 11.3.11 @ 2:14PM
Disappointing that the media for some reason isn't using the loaded term "bimbo outbreak" they preferred when referring to Pres. Clinton's targets.
GaryA| 11.3.11 @ 3:18PM
I don't recall the term "bimbo outbreak" being used re Clinton's accusers, but this case is vastly different than the Lewinski case. She apparently threw herself at Clinton, baring a thong and making her availability known in other ways.
At least one of the women accusing Cain was apparently justified enough in her charges that she was paid a whole year's salary.
Cain apparently doesn't want to clear the air on this; if he did, he'd release his accusers from their confidentiality agreements.
It's not in the least surprising that Cain-ites never acknowledge that simple remedy, but prefer to indignantly fume, instead.
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 5:37PM
GaryA:
In the early 90's I worked in a small division of a Fortune 100 company. As managers, we were told in formal sexual harassment training that a single, unsubstantiated, baseless allegation of sexual harassment usually cost the company about $200,000. A year's severance pay at $35,000 or $40,000 sounds about right for a baseless claim. This looks pretty lame to me.
loulou| 11.3.11 @ 7:32PM
How many times do you have be told that CAIN WAS NOT A PARTY TO THE SETTLEMENT!
Idiot. Clinton apparently preyed on Lewinsky. He raped Juanita Broadderick, exposed himself to Paula Jones and pummeled Kathleen Willey. Those are just the few we know about.
Dick Nome| 11.3.11 @ 8:00PM
The term was 'Bimbo eruption' and Hildebeast had a hit squad to take care of them. Poor 'ol defenseless Bill, Lewinski forced him into a BJ and he fought back till he stained the Blue Dress. BTW, Herman Cain cannot release anyone from the confidentiality agreement as he isn't party to it.
Harrison | 11.3.11 @ 2:54PM
Citing "anonymous sources" and not letting you face your attacker is no way to run a story.
GaryA| 11.3.11 @ 3:12PM
It'd be simple for Mr. Cain to clear this up: publicly state that his accusers are no longer bound by any confidentiality agreements they may have signed regarding the events in question.
If Mr. Cain refuses to do that it's a safe assumption the allegations are not slur but fact.
Drunken Sailor| 11.3.11 @ 3:20PM
Considering it was the National Resterant association that handled and settled the case it is they who would have to release the accusers from the confidentiality agreement, not Herman Cain.
martin j smith| 11.3.11 @ 3:22PM
GaryA there is one little problem with your suggestion maybe two actually. By saying that so and so are no longer bound by a confidentiality agreement Cain violates this agreement. Second, if as he claims he does not know what is in the agreement then why should he blindly do that. For example This could easily be a phony suit
based on one person claim never proven in court
My take: This is a smear pure and simple. No names,no facts, no documents and even the allegations have been changed because they were shown to be untrue. And if this were anything of significance it would have gone to court. This a shit piece pure and simple and those who support on our side I say this to you: You too will be getting shit pieces from the Left and then what. You would let Obama destroy each one of you. Shame on you at best Shame. My best advice is to defend each other or allow each other to be destroyed. Its that simple. Or is that your objective Establishment types ?
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 5:39PM
It's basically how Obama won his Illinois House and US Senate races. They flimflammed opposition candidates out of the races with innuendo and subterfuge.
Chuck| 11.3.11 @ 3:34PM
Cain withdrew his accusation that the Perry campaign was responsible for the leak. Finally he did something right in this fiasco. Cain made his own accusation without proof, his biggest mistake, making him guilty at least of hypocrisy. But at least he's on the path to recovery.
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 5:40PM
Chuck, look up to see who I see as the culprits...
antidote| 11.3.11 @ 3:42PM
Oh get over it, Cain is just the rodeo clown sent in to distract from the latest revelation on the real candidate, Romney and his Ponzi scheming family. Oh what a sorry band of thieves, liars, panderers and philanderers that is the republican field of candidates. Can you say "FOUR MORE YEARS!"?
beebop2| 11.3.11 @ 5:36PM
I think you have pretty much demonstrated who the clown is ...
antidote| 11.3.11 @ 3:45PM
Now all of you know how the sane/rational Americans felt leading up to the 2004 stolen election. It's just killing you, isn't it? The thought of four more years of a Dem in the White House. And we will get more in the House and Senate, too. The tea party has fractured the repugnantcans and they are imploding as we speak. Ahhhh sweet victory!
Dick Nome| 11.3.11 @ 5:20PM
What stolen election?? Where?? How??
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 5:48PM
Dick;
You have to cut the "antidote" a little slack; he was probably educated in the Chicago Public School system. That the 4 looks a lot like a 0, only it doesn't have that little stick at the bottom has him completely confused.
Oh, antidote,
Were you trying to refer to the 2000 Presidential race that Sore-Loserman cried all the way to the Supreme Court before they were told "Shut up and sit down, you lost!?"
If you were, did you know that a collection of newspapers paid for a study to go back and try to re-analyze the results to prove that Gore really won? And did you know that even the NEw York Times couldn't come up with an slightly plausible scenario that showed anything other than that Bush won?
Of course not. You can't be bothered by facts, history, or reality. How's that NORML thing working out for you? Even Obama said he's against legalizing dope, you dope.
So, antidote, are you a communist or just a useful idiot?
Well? Commie or idiot? Pick one.
Thank you.
Dick Nome| 11.3.11 @ 7:48PM
I think he means the '04 election. A lot of Libs think it was stolen too. (They think Al Frankenstein won fair and square too.) I just want to know why he thinks the '04 election was stolen from Lurch. I think I know but I want to hear it from him, her, it.
martin j smith| 11.3.11 @ 4:14PM
Three trolls.
DTOM| 11.3.11 @ 5:49PM
Wish the sun would come up and turn 'em to stone...
carlk| 11.3.11 @ 4:27PM
Kings, emperors, tyrants, and dictators have vanished over the centuries.
Now it is time for bureaucratic government models, as they exist today, to vanish.
It is the dawn of the Information age.
Industrial revolution era government models are obsolete, and are the reason for the widespread unrest around the globe, including America.
It is time for America, through the spirit of innovation to reform the government model. It should be based on a non-profit business model, which is completely De-centralized. The people would simply pay fees for any public service - with no direct taxes, minimum regulation, and minimum legislation.
Aspiration, through opportunity, is the heart and soul of humanity.
Restore America to be a beacon of the world.
Hire Herman Cain soon.
beebop2| 11.3.11 @ 5:35PM
This is like watching a multi car crash at a NASCAR event. Politico cuts off Cain who blows a tire, hitting the Perry Campaign, meanwhile the RINO Romney avoids the collision!
Why is that Herman Cain is denying the rights to Perry that he claims for himself? He has lost me totally. He doesn't have any FACTS tying this to Rick Perry -- but insists that Anderson knew about the incident that Cain himself denied just three days ago? Someone is thinking we can't follow a thread ....
nohussein| 11.3.11 @ 6:43PM
The black preacher is busted, no surprise.
BackToBasics| 11.3.11 @ 6:46PM
I still like and support Cain. He did not handle things so well after the flimsy allegations surfaced, he was somewhat okay until he blamed Perry. this bought him nothing. But I still like his manyu strengths and will not be a party yo throwing him overboard because some leftists and / or RINO's want him destroyed.
If he knows the allegations werea a setup or trumped-up, the next time it comes up he should give a Reaganesque answer like, "There you go again" or some equivalent of "get a bigger shovel."
Also, before the next debate and during it he should apologize to Perry since I do not think he has proof. I do not back Perry but neither do I believe in blaming him without proof.
Third, hire a cmapaign manager other than Michael Bloch.
To those who want to support Cain; it is only pre-primary. I think he will be a quick learner, and that he would be a great president given his penchant for being first with bold ideas and great communication skills both homespun and in communicating a conservative direction to the country.
He's not perfect but I think he's a good man who is being set-up. He cannot even defend himself against unnamed accusers.
BackToBasics| 11.3.11 @ 6:47PM
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nohussein| 11.3.11 @ 6:48PM
America does not need , nor can sustain another black preacher.
beebop2| 11.3.11 @ 6:55PM
Cain was on the ascendency and need not have taken a swipe at the Perry campaign WITH NO FACTS of any kind to back him up. He is not the guy to put up against the democrat machine.
BackToBasics| 11.3.11 @ 7:02PM
I disagree. I've mentioned some of my reasons here and other reasons in other posts.
BackToBasics| 11.3.11 @ 7:03PM
To clarify, I agree about taking a shot at Perry but disagree about the other.
nohussein| 11.3.11 @ 7:37PM
Welcome to black politics.
BackToBasics| 11.4.11 @ 9:30AM
How is it so different? Dems are all slippery, but white Repub Establishment are slippery too. The court the evangelicals in every election and then once they get thir vote, turn around and ignore everything but tax cuts. Even the Supreme Court picks by our last 3 Republican Presidents were only 50-50.
Although I think it was a mistake for Cain to go after Perry at least he did it openly instead of some underhanded, secret way. The secret way is the welcome to white politics. I've had enough of that subtlty!
Chris| 11.3.11 @ 6:52PM
I'm with Trump. Cain should sue if it is proven to be a False Story to smear him intentionally.
"Malice" is obvious due to his conservative political stance and positions.
Chris| 11.3.11 @ 6:53PM
I'm with Trump. Cain should sue if it is proven to be a False Story to smear him intentionally.
"Malice" is obvious due to his conservative political stance and positions.
nohussein| 11.3.11 @ 7:42PM
Sue, Too bad you feel that way. lawsuits are another nail in this countries coffin.
OregonBuzz| 11.3.11 @ 8:03PM
So, now the witch hunt begins because Mr. Cain is a definite threat to the established status quo regardless of political affiliation. This happens quadrennially and no one should be surprised. Because Mr. Cain is "unconventional" in the normal sense of political discourse he upsets people because they don't know what to do when somebody proposes solutions to our problems based on the Constitution and the law of the land.
This whole system now makes me ill. Unfortunately there is nowhere else to go. As Ronald Reagan said; “If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth.” - Ronald Reagan (Oct. 27, 1964)
Nite| 11.3.11 @ 10:31PM
Cains explanations have been all over the place. He needs to stick with one story. There has been a lot of smoke, so lets see if there is fire.
reiska | 11.4.11 @ 2:35AM
I'm reading all this stuff about Herman Cain, anonymous accusations of sexual harrassment, and a media frenzy of speculation based on nothing but hearsay.
What's with you Americans? Is this an issue that is going to impact on who is the next President of your great country? Because it surely won't be the empty suit posing as your present leader.
So if this nonsense actually impacts on Herman Cain's pathway to the White House, America is really in a bad way.
Were I an American, I would probably vote for Herman; I really like the guy. (Yours truly from Sydney, Australia.)
POST American| 11.4.11 @ 5:13AM
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Bob| 11.5.11 @ 10:59PM
Looks like Cain is moving along nicely, whihc is more than I can say for the American Spectator hysterical response to it. Where is the hysterical response to anything of this mini-magnitude when Obama, a Democrat or an establishment Republican does it? Nowhere to be found. The Spectator joining in with the mainstream morons is very disappointing.