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Eminentoes
Has Zbigniew Brzezinski Lost It?
The noted anti-Communist was last heard channeling Roseanne Barr.
I could write at length about what Zbigniew Brzezinski has meant to me. It’s a long story, but his work was instrumental in my switch from being a pre-med major at the University of Pittsburgh in the late 1980s to a career studying and writing and teaching about the Cold War and foreign policy. His 1989 book, The Grand Failure, which brilliantly described the crisis level of various communist nations and the order in which they would implode, changed my life.
When I got to Washington as a grad student at American University, I began working at the Center for Strategic & International Studies. Brzezinski was there — and still is. I wrote him a note explaining what his work had meant to me; it was why I was there. The next day, his assistant responded, telling me how much he was moved by my letter. He sent me not only a signed copy of The Grand Failure but inscribed copies of all his books. They remain on my shelf today as treasured possessions.
In my classes today at Grove City College, as any student will attest, I quote Brzezinski all the time. I defend him as a rare positive in a horrendous Jimmy Carter presidency. When we put Jimmy Carter on the cover of my latest book — smooching Leonid Brezhnev above the giant letters, DUPES — I made sure that I retained my respect for Brzezinski inside.
Zbigniew Brzezinski was superb on the Soviets and communism generally. He belonged in the Reagan administration, not the Carter administration. In fact, in the 1980s, behind the scenes, he was helping the Reagan folks and John Paul II to take down the Soviets in Poland.
Later, in the 2000s, Brzezinski’s statements on President George W. Bush were not nearly as persuasive. To the contrary, they were way over the top, vitriolic, and lacking the persuasive logic that had pervaded his Cold War writings. Still, we could reasonably disagree on whether the Bush push to spread the “March of Freedom” to the Middle East was viable and realistic. In my classes, I continued to share Brzezinski’s Cold War material — including, notably, his superb seven common characteristics of totalitarian regimes.
All of that is background to my strong appraisal of what Brzezinski said in the last few days. I heard it while serving dinner to the kids. It turned my stomach. It made me think that Brzezinski has either lost it or is being influenced (way too easily) by the poisonous class-warfare of Barack Obama and his mindless followers, who apparently dominate Brzezinski’s circles in Washington. Brzezinski stated:
You know, I’ve been looking at these worldwide riots that are developing. They’re all a reflection of deep passion, deep resentment and fear. Now the question is “Where will this go? How can this be sort of concretized?” And one thought that has occurred to me — and let me sort of mention it here casually without having really thought it through systematically — I think it would be increasingly helpful if there was a movement to publish, worldwide, lists of who make, largely through speculation, enormous amounts of money almost instantly, and basically hide the fact from their social context. You know, how many Americans are really fully aware of how many other good people, let’s say like Warren Buffett and others, who really donate a lot of their earnings to charities, to philanthropy? But how many more are there in the hedge funds, in the banks, in a variety of other places, who, on the basis of speculation, literally make millions of dollars that would take a century or two for the average person ever to make? I’d like to see those lists. And they shouldn’t be that difficult to produce.
I find these comments from Brzezinski more disturbing, more upsetting, than even the unhinged remarks from Roseanne Barr calling for wealthy bankers to be forcibly re-educated and literally guillotined. After all, Roseanne is clearly a crackpot, unable to separate her comedy from commentary — in this case, dark comedy; Brzezinski, on the other hand, has been one of America’s foremost foreign-policy minds for parts of five decades.
What’s so shocking about Brzezinski’s statements is their classist and even Marxist-Leninist nature. They are, to put it bluntly, communist in their thinking.
Does Zbigniew Brzezinski not realize that? His suggestion — especially its global application — is precisely what communists did in places like his native Poland and elsewhere in the Soviet bloc and around the world. This is what Lenin’s and Stalin’s Comintern wanted in order to facilitate the process of the worldwide class revolution.
Literal “lists” of greedy “speculators” is exactly what Lenin did. A “worldwide” “movement” to assemble and publish such lists? “Bankers” specifically identified? This is Leninism 101, pure and simple.
If anyone on the planet should know this, it’s Zbigniew Brzezinski.
I understand that such poisonous class rhetoric flows naturally from the lips of Barack Obama, but it should be inherently incapable of emanating from the lips of Zbigniew Brzezinski. That a thoughtful, unwavering, lifetime anti-communist like Brzezinski could fall prey to such Marxist claptrap shows the incredible, pervasive power of anyone — and I mean anyone — to be manipulated by Obama’s class-warfare agitprop. And it’s clearly an Obama influence, right down to upholding Warren Buffet as American Angel.
Sure, I expect the Wall Street “Occupiers” to be suckered by such language. The majority of them are the liberal/progressive dupes that hard-line communist ringleaders have always easily manipulated. Nothing new there — as Brzezinski would understand. But to see Zbigniew Brzezinski succumb to class-based demagoguery leaves one in despair for this country.
Such is the noxious, toxic result of a White House and entire political party that adopts Deadly Sin — i.e., envy (class envy) — as a political philosophy and strategy. What a shame.
About the Author
Paul Kengor is professor of political science and executive director of The Center for Vision & Values at Grove City College. He is author of the new book The Communist: Frank Marshall Davis, The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s Mentor. His other books include The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism and Dupes: How America’s Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century.
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Timothy L. Pennell| 10.21.11 @ 6:37AM
Yes. Let's make a LIST. A list of who has all the Money. The GREEDY ones. Not the good ones. Not, Warren Buffet. Not Jeffery Immelt, and none of the Movie Stars and Athletes. Just the ones who make their money quick, through Speculation, and then HAVE THE NERVE to "Basically, hide the fact in their Social Context".
Hello?
Upon hearing this old fool, it's a wonder that his Idiot Daughter, isn't Stupider, than she already is. One, also has to believe that, Old Ziggy, would have looked real spiffy, in one of those RED ARMY Uniforms. I'm betting that he would have FIT RIGHT IN, with he other Goose Steppers, up their on the Podium, looking out at the Freedom Starved Masses.
When he says, what he says, it is HE, who is trying to "Hide the facts of his social context".
He seems to by HIDING something. There's something he's not saying, but, it's in his words, just the same.
JEW.
The former National Security advisor of the JEW HATING, Jimmy Carter, who grew up in POLAND, at the height of the HOLOCAUST.
I wonder what HE DID back then? I wonder if he was more apt to HIDE a Jew, from the Nazis, or TURN HIM OVER?
Hmmmmmm. I'm guessing it was B.
Quartermaster| 10.21.11 @ 6:21PM
gang, I do hate to say it, but there is a problem with speculation. Anyone hear of derivatives? Also, I've never seen any speculator produce anything. useful. Most of them just run up prices on stocks and commodities, often making them quite volatile.
There is a place for speculation, but it has been out of hand for at least 20 years now.
dw| 10.21.11 @ 8:08PM
It's a short road to dictatorship....shall we start with who you think should have their money taken? Maybe we should set up a commission or an advisory group for the confiscation of wealth that seems unfairly garnered. How about re education camps for former free market Americans? The possibilities are endless.
axbucxdu| 10.21.11 @ 10:56PM
I'd settle for margin calls at trading day's end, not the kind Blankfein and company got when they went snivelling to the Fed. Bailouts may be a longer road to dictatorship, but not by much. Who stops GS from taking my money? A government run by them? Sheesh.
race_to_the_bottom| 10.23.11 @ 12:47PM
Those are interesting suggestions worth considering and indeed the possibilities are truly endless. Roseanne, on the other hand is SO 18th century. So impractical. Anyone check out the prices on tumbrils lately? Through the roof!
RCV| 10.22.11 @ 9:51AM
Nice try slandering Brzezinski, Tim, but he wasn't living in Poland during the Holocaust. His father was a Polish diplomat who was posted to Canada at the time of the German-Russian invasion of Poland, and Zbignew grew up and was educated in Montreal after that.
But don't let facts interfere with your political slanders.
mzk1| 10.22.11 @ 1:11PM
My main memory for Zbignew (Miki's Dad, BTW), was at the beginning of the Carter administration, when he asked a group of rabbis: How do you like having a president who doesn't owe you anything? (Denied, of course.)
RCV| 10.22.11 @ 4:14PM
Denied because it's bullshit.
Mary Mayes | 10.22.11 @ 3:13PM
What about his piece is slander? Whoever you are, RCV, I used to love to come here to read reasoned and articulate expression of conservative thought. You, among others, have ruined this site, in my opinion. Thanks a lot.
RCV| 10.22.11 @ 4:18PM
I wasn't speaking about the article, but about Mr Pennell's patently false slander that Dr. B was probably turning in Jews to the Nazis during the holocaust.
I'm so sorry to have ruined your little cocoon of unchallenged conservative opinion, Mary, but that's why they make 47 different kinds of toothpaste.
Brian Richard Allen | 10.28.11 @ 11:30AM
.... Zbignew grew up and was educated in Montreal ....
Oh, the poor basta*d!
race_to_the_bottom| 10.23.11 @ 8:48PM
Where is the evidence that Jimmy Carter hates Jews? He is simply critical of the government of Israel. He has the company of many Jewish people in the US and in Israel. Is this just more Israel lobby slander?
Abu Nudnik| 10.30.11 @ 1:50PM
I agree. It sounds like "Jew" to me too. These instincts are feral, which is why he hasn't thought it through systematically. He'd have to put himself into the thought. He may not be as self-aware as he is aware of others, of systems.
Abu Nudnik| 10.30.11 @ 1:51PM
PS: It's going to far to speculate on his actions in the war. I'm pretty sure he was a child then.
Kenny| 10.21.11 @ 6:46AM
Brzezinski has lost it?
I don't think he ever had it.
Stuart Koehl| 10.21.11 @ 10:06AM
Hey! That was my line.
Occam's Tool| 10.21.11 @ 10:25AM
I don't recall him as doing much brilliant under Carter; this is because he failed to recognize the Islamist threat then, and, in addition, was fairly incompetent in facing down the Soviets.
The GREAT Timothy L Pennell summarizes my views above in a much more precise way than I ever could, as does Stuart and Kenny. But, again, NICELY done, Tim.
Doctor Right| 10.21.11 @ 2:46PM
I agree, O.T.
No disrespect intended, Mr. Kengor, but I have a hard time accepting ANYONE from Mr. Carter's administration, least of all his foreign policy advisors, as having any worthwhile opinions on foreign affairs.
Carter's foreign policy, led by Mr. Brzezinski, was an absolute disaster. It took the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan to rattle Carter's cage and finally convince him that the Soviets were a menace not to be trusted. Under Carter, Soviet expansionism achieved significant inroads into the western hemisphere, particularly in Central America and the Caribbean. Carter's response? DO NOTHING.
If I'd been a key adviser to Jimmy Carter on foreign policy, I'd keep it to myself...
race_to_the_bottom| 10.23.11 @ 8:52PM
As Brzezinski has written, the US was supporting Islamic fundamentalism in Afghanistan to undermine the secular government there BEFORE the Soviets entered the country. Also, what was going on in Latin America during that period was uprisings against US supported dictators, like Somoza, who I'll wage is a hero to most Spectator readers. You really don't understand much about history, do you.
CalMark| 10.21.11 @ 3:57PM
Exactly.
This is Carter's National Security Advisor. And Carter's foreign policy, especially in security affairs, was worse than a joke--it was a dangerous disaster.
That the author of this article admires ZB makes me very leery of the author. As in, suspicions about credibility.
race_to_the_bottom| 10.23.11 @ 8:53PM
Which "security" are you referring to? Was the country in danger of invasion? I must have missed that.
Audace| 10.21.11 @ 6:56AM
Mr. Kengor, having watched (from a distance) the physical, bodily demise of a strong member of the Reagan team (2d tier) over these past years, it becomes clear to me that we just cannot fight the tick, ticking of time.
We age.
Our mental faculties fade very rapidly.
Mr. Z. is now 83 1/2
I think that the pundits, the TV political pros, and those with ulterior motives seek out purposely the former sharp minds, knowing they will say things they never would have rationally spoken just one decade prior.
It's dastardly. Get a man with reknown, experience, and instant name recognition to speak a message that is incongruent.
The age old question is when to let the aged just be. And, tis true, some of the aged do not know when to exit the stage.
Occam's Tool| 10.21.11 @ 10:28AM
Zbig in his prime wasn't much. The Israelis thought he was a putz.
DTOM| 10.21.11 @ 12:37PM
Anybody remember how Goldwater in his final years suddenly came out as a pro-gay activist, apparently, maybe, under the apparent influence of his ex-nurse/caregiver and eventual wife?
Lookee here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....072894.htm
Hard to say if Barry came to this view late or was just quiet about it...
Maybe Zbig's been listening to his air-headed daughter. I mean she obviously dyes her hair blonde - does she also get the IQ-ectomy alleged in the standard blonde joke?
USSAlabama| 10.21.11 @ 1:33PM
She is where she is because of WHO she is.
'nuff said.
mzk1| 10.22.11 @ 1:13PM
The effect of Hydrogen Peroxide on the brain?
Bill McDowell| 10.22.11 @ 7:08PM
In case no one noted, the Dr.'s "list comment/diatribe" was made as he was a guest on his daughter's morning Joe program. I was flabbergasted by what he was proposing.
race_to_the_bottom| 10.23.11 @ 8:59PM
Well, Goldwater was a real conservative who was intellectually honest. Brzezinski is too. When people like this have had enough time to think things through, they are not afraid to acknowledge where they may have not seen things as clearly as they should have in the past. I don't think there is any hope for the current crop of so-called "conservatives". Too many Neanderthal genes.
elixelx| 10.21.11 @ 6:58AM
Paul, we may forgive you your youthful ardour for Zbig the Stalinist, but what explains the encomiums you heap upon him now? Ok it's only to say you're desperately disappointed in what he has become, but by admitting to your hero-worship, ad nauseum before entering into substantives you tell us more about your own lack of judgement than you do about the Brez.
See, not all of us bought the act. Some of us knew in 1976/77 that this was a Polack, a disseminator, a Stalinist, brought to us by a weakling President who thought that foreign-policy nous was equivalent to foreign policy! Carter, and Zbig, proved that there is many a slip between Knowing and Understanding. The first allied to the second lead to sound Judgement. The first without the second led to 56/444.
He was NEVER admirable, NEVER far-sighted (his book on the fall of the Communist Regimes came out, with such clear hind-sight, in 1989, after the fall of the wall!) NEVER analytically rigourous.
He had and still has, ignoble hatreds, notably of Israel, which informs all his present thinking, as it does that of his mentor, Carter!
Face it, Paul. This pretender, Zbig, who calls Buffet a nice man, who will not hear a bad word said or himself say a bad word about George Soros, is now railing against those who make too much money because they deal in money.
If "boy" means "black" then "money" means "Jews" and you cannot admit, Paul, that your one-time hero is now, and has always been, a crypto-anti-semite.
This man has a brass neck, and you, Paul, admiring that, do not look down at his feet made of clay!
Chalkdust| 10.21.11 @ 8:20AM
Elixelx....It's as if you had this post on the tip of your tongue (fingers) for several years, just waiting to spring it. It is wonderful. I always thought Brzezinski was either a badly flawed man or a soviet plant. Regardless, not a man that should be sitting near the throne of power.
I'll be watching closely for your next post.
race_to_the_bottom| 10.23.11 @ 9:03PM
When did it happen that "money" means "Jews"? I guess that confirmes that all those critical of Wall Street are antisemites.
Nancy in NC| 10.21.11 @ 6:59AM
I am beginning to believe there's something in the water...how else can you explain the lunacy that is consuming the brains of people that should know better. Perhaps Pennell is right...Anti-Semitism has become acceptable for the first time in my life. Sure, it's always been there, but nowdays it's not in the closet.
After all the books and all the movies, is that where we fall? Are we going to allow class envy to cloud our vision to the point we start seeing things in these kinds of terms? Have we not learned that when society tars everyone with the same brush, that nothing but evil follows?
Has anyone seen the video of the black woman in the OWS Los Angeles saying the problem is the Jew bankers and they need to be ran out of the country? She says she's a school teacher in the public schools...now that's a scary thought.
The evil in the world is getting the upper hand.
Michael Tomlinson| 10.21.11 @ 7:26AM
Zbigniew Brzezinski's failure in dealing with communism and the Soviet Union is best illustrated by Jimmy Carter's abysmal response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and Marxism's aggressive expansion in Africa and Latin America during the late 70's. Had it not been for Ronald Reagan and G.H.W. Bush the Soviet empire would still be enslaving Eastern Europe and threatening Western Europe.
But even worse was his shockingly misguided handling of the Middle East and Islam. In his arrogance and ignorance Brzezinski set in motion the failed US foreign policy that fundamentalist Islam had no future in the Middle East. His failure in the Middle East is on the scale of jihadist appeaser Barack Obama.
Brzezinski along with Jimmy Carter acted as midwife to the despotic Shia Iranian theocracy and Sunni fundamentalism. He and Carter are the fathers of our current crisis and war against radical Islam. Zbigniew Brzezinski should go down in history as one of the worst foreign policy advisors serving one of the presidents in US history.
Ken (Old Texican)| 10.21.11 @ 7:46AM
Well spoken, Michael.
Mike D.| 10.21.11 @ 8:49AM
Totally agree with that statement. This guy always has been a Socialist Globalist, now well illustrated.
Herb| 10.21.11 @ 10:13AM
I have to agree with most of the commenters, including this one from Michael. It is beyond my understanding how anyone other than a progressive anti-Semite could be in sympathy with one of our worst foreign policy analysts and advisors. He was there with the ridiculous Jimmy Carter when Iran took the American hostages, and what did he do? All his antipathy was against Jews, so no big deal about Iranian terrorism. If Brzezinski had been born in the old Soviet Union rather than in Poland, he would have become a member of the Politburo. Surely his anti-banker talk now is also disguised anti-Semitism. Who could have ever predicted that so soon after the Holocaust, this disease would rear its ugly head around the world and would include, not just the entire Muslim world, but so many of our progressive elites.
Occam's Tool| 10.21.11 @ 10:30AM
Beautifully done, Michael. Please see my comments above. A well stated support of the "putz" thesis.
Occam's Tool| 10.21.11 @ 10:33AM
Did we have a worse SecState ever? I mean, Hillary's pretty bad, but Zbig was worse than her.
DTOM| 10.21.11 @ 12:43PM
Didn't Paul Kengor write that Zbig was the best of that Carter lot? I mean maybe Paul noticed that Zbig seemed to have 20/2000 vision, but worked in a crew of blind guys...
C'mon, somebody called me 'nasty' in a post the other day, 'cause I called them a 'scaredy cat,' so I am trying to 'sweeten up' and be 'nice.'
It's not working, is it?
W| 10.22.11 @ 8:50AM
Madeleine Halfbright was awful.
CalMark| 10.21.11 @ 3:59PM
Exactly, MT. Cogently stated.
Carter "foreign policy" (if it can be dignified with that term) was a disaster. ZB was one of his primary advisers. Enough said.
W| 10.21.11 @ 5:04PM
Agree. The Shah was our ally and had been modernizing Iran. We gave no support to the Shah, our ally, and even refused to allow him to enter the USA for medical treatment. This was Jimmy and Zbig. Now we have to worry about a nuclear Iran.
VBMax| 10.21.11 @ 10:44PM
I do recall a fairly recent statement by Zbig that we should shoot down Israeli planes over Iraqi airspace should they decide to destroy the Iranian nuclear facilities.
W| 10.22.11 @ 8:47AM
I believe you are correct. I saw Z's book " Power and Principle, at used book store for $1. It looked through it in about 5 minutes, all about how principled Carter was in not using American power, and attempting to justify their Iran policy.
Ivan Ivanovich| 10.21.11 @ 7:27AM
I never trusted Zbig, but this reminds me of another story. Walter was the best of 50 journeymen when I was an apprentice. He taught me to work and to think. He also told me how he came here from Germany in 1946. They asked him what he did in the old country and he said he was in the army (What we think of as a Nazi). What work did you do? And he answered "I defused bombs that fell but did not explode". Did they force you to do this? No, I volunteered. Why would you volunteer for such a dangerous job? Because NO one fucks with you when you are working on a bomb!
He was a complicated guy, as Zbig is, and these smart complicated people can succeed anywhere in any system. RIP Walter.
TOM PRATT| 10.21.11 @ 7:45AM
Can you tell us where to access ZB's seven common characteristics of totalitarianism?
USSAlabama| 10.21.11 @ 8:19AM
This is the man who said "Shoot them down." when there was speculation as to whether or not Israel would take out Iranian nuclear reactors.
That was in 2009.
Anyone only just now coming to the conclusion that Brezinsky is of the rails hasn't been paying attention.
Lazy Jack | 10.21.11 @ 8:22AM
Zbig is obviously watching a lot of Morning Joe, and therefore reduced to thinking in monotone. Perhaps that is all he ever did, but colored it in with rhetorical flourish. Fortunately, I am not really smart enough to comment.
Lazy Jack
Herb| 10.21.11 @ 9:12AM
Speaking of Morning Joe, I once thought that Zbig's daughter Mika had utterly failed to inherit her father's towering if flawed intellect. Now it's clear beyond doubt that the apple didn't fall far from the tree.
PaulyD| 10.21.11 @ 8:36AM
There are many, many people who do not accept the political reality of communism but still believe in its philosophical ideal. I guess Brzezinski is just another one them.
hardcard| 10.21.11 @ 8:53AM
zbiggy was a commie mole in our government, there are many past and present, they were seeded throughout the west, in all areas of power, finance,entertainment,news outlets,acadamia, finance, i.e. g.soros. What's happening today isn't an accident.
POST American| 10.21.11 @ 9:13AM
"Soon you will be hearing communism
is dead. DON'T believe them."
-Mikhail Gorbachev
1990
----Soft programming for the now consolidating,
4 decades underway, Globalist RED China sellout,
'TREASON and EUGENICS OP.
No surprises here.
It's the Masonic synthesis, the annihilation
of genuine human culture, spirit and economy.
'Bennie violence' working through 'soft power'
---for now.
Like Roseanne in her MAO jacket, 'former'
STASI and KGB saturating, 'by design', our
intel services, and the orchestrated fold before
the unfolding police state and the collapse of
our economy and sovereignty------thus
Zbigniev.
Brzezinski's just bringing up the rear
----from the top. He knows exactly what
he's doing.
---BTW ---cleaned out your churches yet???????
Tim the Enchanter| 10.24.11 @ 2:01PM
Huh?
Petronius| 10.21.11 @ 10:11AM
He's a commie now. He was a closet commie then. And together with Jimminy Peanut tried to induce their own brand of it; the kiddie kulture communism with a smiley face instead of hammer and sickle, where the government takes the place of "mommy" and cares for the lumpen masses of clueless supplicants who voted for them. And it was all for their love and admiration. For the rest of us it was deprivation and disgust. So how do all-y'all like the return engagement?
USSAlabama| 10.21.11 @ 11:40AM
Well - look where Carter stands now and his actions of the last few years. Couple that with the man who flatly commanded that we 'shoot down' Israeli jets that would fly over Iraq to take out reactors in Iran.
It's progressivism. Just as bad as statism, if not worse.
He must be George Soros' brother. Perhaps they both changed their names -
Occam's Tool| 10.21.11 @ 10:31AM
By the way, the World Historical Figure whose signed autobiography I have in my Library is Ariel Sharon. I think I'm one up on you, Paul.
Citizen Jerry| 10.21.11 @ 10:45AM
Poor old Zbigniew! He's just the latest to prove the truism -- the ugliness in your heart always ends up on your face.
Anthony| 10.21.11 @ 10:47AM
Whores apply their trade according to who's buying.
Zbig is just another in a long line of frauds that will say and do anything to remain relevant, and get on MSNBC, with silly daughter.
Zbig reminds me of Captain Renault from "Casablanca", who, when Ric mildly chastises him for playing footies with the Nazi's, Renault calmly quips, about being on the winning side, and currently the prevailing winds are blowing from Vishy.
The Obozo regime is the Vishey government currently in contol of America. And they have their goose-steppers to prove it!!!
John II| 10.21.11 @ 4:00PM
Wait a minute. Claude Rains's Renault character is played with the wit and charm of a sure-enough ironist--including the self-irony required for his genuine change of heart in the final scenes.
I don't think Zbig is capable of THAT kind of change. All indications are that he's permanently a damp-fingered dude, and the winds from the Obamanation are blowing in one direction only, regardless of consequences. I think your (false) analogy may have been triggered by the, let's face it, smug-left culture of Rick and Co, whose anti-Nazi sentiments were more a matter of politics than of moral judgment.
And now back to, well, "Casablanca" (1943). It's a good flick anyhow.
kerry kelly| 10.21.11 @ 11:57AM
When Obama first came on the scene both Brzezinski and Kissinger praised him as leading us into the new world order. How creepy is that.
Howard| 10.21.11 @ 12:50PM
While I agree that Brezinski was one of the few if any competent people in the Carter administration, I must presume that he is more left wing than Professor Kengor gives credit. My primary source is his daughter Mika. She is a co-host of MSNBC Morning Joe. She is a shill for the Obama administration. She is extremely anti-Republican, and an apologist for any liberal including Paul Krugman and Maureen Dowd. So, she either operates in a vacuum, or she and her father share a similar ideology. I vote the latter!
Citizen Jerry| 10.21.11 @ 3:14PM
But she does operate in a vacuum ... the one between her ears.
Howard| 10.21.11 @ 3:30PM
I wish she was an airhead. She is shrewd and ambitious. I do not take her lightly.
Wayne| 10.22.11 @ 8:46AM
I have no idea who she is and don't care to know.
PattyMor| 10.21.11 @ 12:53PM
They all hide out under the "Progressive" label, except the ones in the Republican Party. There they hide under the "Moderate" label. Its a great strategy, hiding in plain sight, right under our nose. They're all over Hollyweird and academia.
Howard| 10.21.11 @ 12:57PM
Postscript: While I said Zbig was competent, that was a relative term. The Carter presidency was so bumblking, that the bar was set very low.
OLDRAY| 10.21.11 @ 1:30PM
Zbig is not suffering dementia because of age. He was always rotten to the core. It is easy to picture him in a brown shirt uniform with Nazi armband. He and his Jimmy Carter buddy never change. They are bigots through and through.
CalMark| 10.21.11 @ 4:01PM
Sorry, Paul Kengor.
Looks as though your paean to your hero has backfired. Seems people are beginning to wonder about YOUR credibility now.
martin j smith| 10.21.11 @ 4:09PM
Biggy has in my memory of late been an anti-communist ? I find that extremely hard to believe. I have found him to be anti-American. What kind of pill .did he take ?
POST American| 10.21.11 @ 10:46PM
--------------------BOTTOM LINE----------------------
ROT-child/Rock--F--L--O '80's Show'
Whiz Kid going 'calm--ply--ant--ly'
dotty with the official party line.
FACT IS, on behalf of the deadly sinister,
PRIVATE, usury feuled CFR/RIIA et al,
Brzezinski, as much as any 'on show' figure,
has worked TREASON in our midst on behalf
of a psychopathic 'EEL-eat'.
Remember kiddies, USURY is a deviant
system, an abomination before God and man.
It HATES the living God, and mocks
creation itself, creating something out
of nothing.
Even beyond compound interest,
these days, with its FIAT currency,
and actuarial psychopathy, it TRULY is
something -------far beyond SODOM.
Being a deviant system it can never produce
anything good, true and lasting. -----NEVER.
It knows it's deviant --indeed, these days
it knows it's exposed as criminal, before
the entire world.
Here and worldwide it's going for broke
with full-spectrum CON-troll, destruction
of all that was, and the roll out of permanent
debt serfdom ---and agendas for long term,
incremental, soft kill genocide.
Keep NOT believing it ---as those POLIO
shots you got as a kid begin activating those
sleeper LIVE cancer simian 40 viruses.
Take a good, long look at your neighbors
and relatives. ------Watch 'em melt. Shave
your head in solidarity. Wear pink ribbons
and collect coins for more 'RE-search'.
A real treat from Rockefeller EUGENIST,
the now howling in hell, Dr Jonas Salk.
And when you're going down for the
third time and you yourself are
'preparing' for hellbound eternity
--remember
-----------YOU KNEW and DID NOTHING----------
Tim the Enchanter| 10.24.11 @ 2:04PM
Huh?
Tim the Enchanter| 10.24.11 @ 2:04PM
Huh?
Hank Rearden| 10.21.11 @ 11:04PM
Others have noted it, but let my just add my voice to the observation that Zbig appears to have been misquoted. In the article, Zbig is quoted as referring to "speculators." I am sure this is a misquote, as what Zbig means is "JEW speculators." Zbig was very successful in the Carter Administration in facilitating the fall of the Shah and the introduction of radical Islam at the top of a major Middle Eastern state. We may be paying for this achievement for the next 100 years or more.
And, we might ask, what are these "speculators" speculating on? What is the source of their "speculative profits?" Why what they are "speculating" on is that governments around the world have bought themselves power over decades by lying to and cheating their publics with promises they cannot possibly fulfill - that the bill for the lies of governments, the idea that government itself can be a source of wealth without effort, is coming due.
race_to_the_bottom| 10.23.11 @ 9:09PM
Hank, you don't have to be Jewish to be a speculator. I don't know why you think so. Also, do you really think that Carter could have done something about the millions out in the streets in Iran defying his huge army and bringing him down? The SAVAK had killed off most of the secular opposition, you may recall. The US approved. They were all "communists", you see. There was nobody left but the theocrats. Again, what should Carter have done?
MOS 1 1 2 | 10.21.11 @ 11:59PM
Paul Kengor talks about the man who changed his life. I'm sure Paul has read every book and article the man has written. Paul teaches political science and probably observes every nuance of the man's political positions.
But you know what, even though you have shown no evidence for your opinions, you completely outnumber Paul and I am now convinced that the man is an anti-semite, a communist, a Nazi [if only he had had the chance], a moron, and what else? oh it doesn't matter.
Paul, you obviously are incompetent to judge the matter. What's more, you have become suspect, yourself. Watch your step, young man.
CalMark| 10.22.11 @ 4:19PM
"...even though you have shown no evidence for your opinions,"
So all the discussion about ZB helping Jimmy bring down the Shah, which led to Mideast disaster; the friendly stand toward the USSR; the many foreign policy failures under Jimmy Carter.
I guess to you, that is NOTHING compared to the emotional adoration of a man for his deeply flawed, perhaps even wicked, mentor.
sirbourbon| 10.22.11 @ 2:44AM
This is an incredible statement by Paul Kengor:
" Brzezinski, on the other hand, has been one of America's foremost foreign-policy minds for parts of five decades."
"What's so shocking about Brzezinski's statements is their classist and even Marxist-Leninist nature. They are, to put it bluntly, communist in their thinking." ---Paul Kengor
Have you never read Doctor Brezezinski's book BETWEEN TWO AGES, Mr Kengor? In this book Carter's National Security advisor praised Karl Marx . So I find it odd that you have just now found out his admiration for Karl Marx.
Zbig also likes to control people and the Technetronic era as he calls it will do a dandy job of that!
"In the technotronic society the trend would seem to be towards the aggregation of the individual support of millions of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach of magnetic and attractive personalities exploiting the latest communications techniques to manipulate emotions and control reason.”
― Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era
Interesting quote from Zbig brother's book:
PART III Communism:
" The Problem of Relevance Marxism, born of the social upheaval produced by the combined effects of the industrial and nationalist
revolutions, provided a unique intellectual tool for understanding and harnessing the fundamental forces of our time. As both a product and a response to a particularly traumatic phase of man's history, it supplied the best available insight into contemporary reality; it infused political action with strong ethical elements; it formed the basis for a sustained attack on antiquated preindustrial social institutions; and it raised the banner of
internationalism in an age increasingly dominated by national hatreds. "
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2529.....tronic-Era
MOS 1 1 2 | 10.22.11 @ 9:00AM
@ Sirbourbon: My weekend plans were for some serious college football viewing, but your post led me to Z.B.'s Between Two Ages [Thanks for the easy link] and more serious reading than a Saturday morning deserves.
Let me say that I have never read anything by Z.B. before and was never disposed to admire A carter adviser, since I'm a cradle to grave conservative.
But, here I am reading his 1970 book, especially the part about Stalinism, and I can't find anything damning in his views so far. If he's favorable toward Marxism, I haven't found it. Perhaps you could give me a page reference in Between Two Ages. Thanks, Don O'B.
CalMark| 10.22.11 @ 4:20PM
I think you're a plant.
What part of all of these facts do you not understand? I guess we're all wrong, and you're right.
sirbourbon| 10.23.11 @ 2:31PM
Yes, sir, and thanks for the inquiry.
Let me begin with a quote from the author Mr. Kengor who saw Marx in doctor Brezezinski's statements on compiling a banker's lists:
"What's so shocking about Brzezinski's statements is their classist and even Marxist-Leninist nature. They are, to put it bluntly, communist in their thinking."
In the book Between Two Ages written by Brezezenski decades ago it inspired a mega bucks banker named David Rockefeller to found the Trilateral Commission. This was a direct result of Rockefeller reading BTA and putting in the necessary money to get the TC off and running. The TC's founding members were Jimmy Carter, Brezezenski and Rockefeller and others. So while doctor Brezezenski may see evil in bankers or super rich Americans, especically those that don't donate to left wing causes, some bankers are fun to work with if they help you shape the world as he would like to see it shaped!
Brezezenski's vision of the future world using advancing technology as the helping hand. scroll to page 99 and check the footnotes on his opinion of property. His views on private property are distinctly Marxist. One can even say they are Rockefellerian in that an elite core will have a monopoly over all property, but it was Marx that laid down the philosophy of abolition of property in teh Communist Manifesto.
BTA
Participatory Pluralism:
" The approaching two hundredth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence could justify the call
for a national constitutional convention to reexamine the nation's formal institutional framework. Either 1976 or
1989 ....could serve as a suitable target date for culminating a national dialogue on the relevance of existing arrangements, the workings of the representative process, and the desirability of imitating the various European regionalization reforms and of streamlining the administrative
structure. More important still, either date would provide a suitable occasion for redefining the meaning of modern democracy—a task admittedly challenging but not necessarily more so than when it was undertaken by the founding fathers—and for setting ambitious and concrete social goals.† "
{check the footnote>>> "For example, 1976 could provide a target date for a massive effort to terminate poverty as currently defined..."}
How will that transformation to the "new democracy" that the doctor writes about "evolve?"
ZBig: "...the politics of street protests are likely to dominate the visible dimensions of American political life."
Is it praise or is it something else?
"Moreover, in Russia and in China the revolutionary intelligentcia of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries was itself in the forefront of the process of modernization. It represented the most advanced segments of society, and hence a political victory by it inherently involved a historical step forward for the sociey as a whole." {page 105}
Wow, what a statement! The ideology of the communist "intelligentcia" used murder as their tool of change! They "modernized" society by killing 60 million in China during the "Cultural Revolution." Stalin's purges, and Lenin before him, butchered, starved and worked to death Russians, Poles, Ukrainians, Slavs and Asians, Germans and other races and nationalities!
Doctor Brezezinki mentions the Ford Foundation as a means to bring about that change. It's interesting that congress for a time investigated the giant tax-exempt foundations as the source of the radicalization of America. They found that to be the case. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYCBfmIcHM
race_to_the_bottom| 10.23.11 @ 9:14PM
Mos112, of course you are right ZB is a cold warrior. Also, to deny that Marx understood the world he lived in is to deny reality for political expediency.
Christopher Holland| 10.22.11 @ 2:48AM
If he opened his big mouth casually, without thinking about it, then he is, by definition, stupid. That is what stupid people do, they do not think about what they say.
POST American| 10.22.11 @ 5:09AM
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Just more money sucking junk med--is--sin
disguising YOU-genics.
------GO TO THE SOURCE OF THE CANCER------
Wayne| 10.22.11 @ 8:45AM
You got it. How many people with pancreatic cancer live 8 years? Chemo is a poison that destroys the bodies defenses. It is the medical equivalent of Nazi storm troopers.
Wayne| 10.22.11 @ 8:43AM
I remember my dear friend who recently died telling me in the 70's that Brzezinski who founded the Trilateralist Commission was part of the Elite bent upon the New World Order. Obama is his chosen one to reduce the US to being subservient to a Marxist United Nations. Just connect the dots on this guy and you will see my friend was right.
MOS 1 1 2 | 10.22.11 @ 9:59AM
Z.B. is not a member of the Tri-lateral Commission. David Rockefeller founded it. Its North American members include Condi Rice, Timothy Geithner, and a former commander of the US Pacific Fleet, 120 members in all. The European and Asian branches have 120 members each, as well.
Conspiracy theories are boring and counter-productive.
sirbourbon| 10.23.11 @ 8:44PM
MOS112 , one of the former Trilateral Commission directors was Zbigniew Brzezinski. It was Zbig that invited James Earl Carter to join the Trilateral Commission.
Wikipedia provides the connection between Carter, The Trilateral Commission and Between Two Ages: "In his 1970 piece Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era, Brzezinski argued that a coordinated policy among developed nations was necessary in order to counter global instability erupting from increasing economic inequality. Out of this thesis, Brzezinski co-founded the Trilateral Commission with David Rockefeller, serving as director from 1973 to 1976. The Trilateral Commission is a group of prominent political and business leaders and academics primarily from the United States, Western Europe and Japan. Its purpose was to strengthen relations among the three most industrially advanced regions of the capitalist world. Brzezinski selected Georgia governor Jimmy Carter as a member." Do your own "boring" Goggle search.
The title - Trilateral Commission - may be boring and you may find the behind the scenes deals of these powerful think tanks' personalities "boring." Nevertheless many of the Trilateralisst and the sister organization the Council on Foreign Relations, send a great many of its members into the administrtaions of both Republicans and Democrats to set policy onforeign affairs and also domestic issues.
Dick Cheney bragged about his role a a director of the CFRat a CFR function but he quipped to the CFR audience that he didn't mention his CFR membership while campaigning for congress in Wyoming. Maybe he too thought the voters would be "bored" with an admission that he was a supporter of the CFR agenda? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg
MOS 1 1 2 | 10.25.11 @ 5:34PM
Sirbourbon: Thanks for the reference to page 99 of BTA. I will read that .
I don't want a revamping of our constitution; the liberal jurists have done enough damage in their piecemeal chipping away at that document, as in the wholly imagined "privacy" principle that enabled the Roe vs. Wade decision.
And I most definitely oppose any movement toward a European style government. ZB appears to have been far out in left field, if these were his causes.
However, that puts him in the left liberal company of Walter Cronkite and many prominent democrat politicians of the recent past. That's dangerous ideology for America and I would oppose it by any means necessary.
You have done what I advocated: made cogent arguments against his policies and avoided smears. Don't you agree that calling him names: anti-semite, communist, a mole, a Nazi, a demon shows a lack of what you obviously possess, the ability to argue rationally. Conservatives like William F. Buckley defeated liberals with reason and good humor, not with vile invective. I'm sure you're with me on that score. Thanks for your kind reply. MOS 112 [alias Don O'Brien].
Chatty L.| 10.22.11 @ 9:14AM
He is a new world order, tri-lateral, dupe and always has been. You educated people are so open minded your brains have fallen out. Watch a few John Wayne movies, eat some beef jerky and man up!!!
Geez our country is doomed. Doomed with these eggheads in education!!!
MOS 1 1 2 | 10.22.11 @ 10:12AM
I've watched every John Wayne movie a dozen times, I eat my beef in porter house steaks, and I've manned up more times than you can even imagine, including carrying an M1 for Uncle in the US Infantry.
Being educated means you don't say things about people when you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
CalMark| 10.22.11 @ 4:23PM
Nasty, nasty, NASTY.
I've concluded you are, in fact, a plant of some kind.
You tell us ZB detractors that our fact-based opinions are as NOTHING compared to the emotional warm-and-fuzzies by the author.
Calling yourself a conservative to trash conservatives doesn't fly. News flash: you're not a conservative.
Go away.
MOS 1 1 2 | 10.22.11 @ 5:17PM
What FACT-BASED OPINIONS are you talking about? I'm waiting for the facts or even some references so I can see the facts for myself.
Someone spoke of his 1970 book, Between Two Ages, and I read large chunks of it on line, but found nothing to back up the charges that ZB is a Marx apologist, just the opposite.
You conclude that I am a "plant", using the same reasoning powers that lead you to conclude that those who call ZB a commie, a Nazi, a demon are correct; though they can't come up with one shred of evidence to back up their preposterous statements.
You sit on your rickety soap box throne and declare who is and isn't a conservative. Then you tell me to go away. No, the American Spectator is too valuable a magazine to be be left with only weak sisters like you as commentors.
CalMark| 10.23.11 @ 12:17AM
There is something "not quite right" about you.
Oddly stilted language. Weird references to porter house steaks and John Wayne movies and M1s for Uncle. Claiming you'd give up watching college football to read a political memoir--just for this blog? I don't buy it--any of it.
Not buying it.
As for my "rickety soap box," what about yours? Your passion is peculiar. Credible conservatives do not passionately defend Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser, when Carter did a lot of weak, stupid things, many of them favorable to Communism.
MOS 1 1 2 | 10.23.11 @ 1:41PM
@ CalMark,
OK, I'll give it one more shot. I am not defending Mr. Brzezinski or his policies. Read what I wrote. I am attacking people who call him a communist, a nazi, an anti-semite, and a demon.
Those who use these smear tactics are un-American. I don't like smear tactics or intellectual lynch mobs. I don't know enough about Brzezinski's total foreign policy views to speak intelligently about them, but I do know that nothing I have read from his attackers on this blog show that he is a communist.
Calling him a Pollack anti-semite appeared in one comment. Doesn't that bother you? Isn't that like some Democrats calling the Tea Party racists? Does disagreeing with Obama's policies make you a racist? Does disagreeing with Israel make you an anti-semite?
Don't you see what I'm objecting to? Present evidence and convince people. Stop calling names.
And stop passing judgement on who is a real conservative. And stop telling me to go away. You don't know me from Adam.
Occam's Tool| 10.23.11 @ 10:15PM
The antisemitism comes out in his actions, including his advocacy of the US attacking Israel rather than letting it take out the Iranians, which is part of a long pattern, MOS.
MOS 1 1 2 | 10.24.11 @ 11:09PM
Again, you twist his words. He said we control Iraqi air space, implying that we could make it clear that bombing Iran is not a good idea, and Israel would not want a confrontation with its principal ally. He never said "shoot down Israeli planes" or, as you said, "attack Israel."
I think he was wrong and I would have liked to see an Israeli attack on Iran's nuclear program. But if you put words in B.Z.'s mouth, you can turn him into anything you want. The truth matters, but not to character assassins.
Disagreeing with Israeli policy does not equal anti-semitism.
Howard| 10.24.11 @ 10:48AM
I agree with you. While it is fair to challenge Zbig's significant failings, I do not believe we have a right to call him what has been stated here. I do not believe Brezinski is a friend of Israel, but I do not think he is anti-Semitic. I think he looks at thinks in a realpolitik fashion in which the Arabs are more important. I vehemently disagree with his reasoning and worldview, but, do not think he is a Jew hater.
scythe| 10.22.11 @ 9:55AM
Lost it? You lost it years ago. If you think this demon was anti-Communist you are delusional. He is one of the shadowy figures long inhabiting the halls of the New World Order. He and his pal Henry the Kiss of Death Kissinger are from the same mold. Those of us who have never lived our lives rubbing shoulders with our "betters" know better. How is it people who are up close can never see, and those who are far away get it. Can't see the forest through the trees, can you?
MOS 1 1 2 | 10.22.11 @ 10:48AM
@ scythe
Who are you replying to? Who lost it years ago?
I don't much like Brzezinski but to say that he didn't hate Communism and Nazism that oppressed his native Poland for fifty years is pure BS. He advised Solidarity and Pope John Paul XXIII in the struggle against Communist rule in Poland.
He threw in his lot with the Democrats and that loser, Jimmy Carter, but that doesn't make him a demon
Just Some Guy| 10.22.11 @ 10:29AM
Well, I agree with most of the comments that the answer is yes, Ziggy lost it sometime in the Clinton administration, and I don't normally even read his opinions anymore unless I want to get angry - and sad. However, on his idea to publicize the names of speculators - I may agree with this. You have to understand the scale and scope of the financial disaster of 2008, and since, and some further financial horrors very likely to come at ANY time. And if you knew how much money the wall street types have taken for themselves while creating this disaster ... is it so bad, that if your 1040 lists a hundred million bucks, the government wants to give you a medal?
david secunda| 10.22.11 @ 10:36AM
I think he was talking about the likes of George Soros. Also, the corruption and greed on Wall Street is real. The rich are getting richer. Making money by doing nothing.
maria| 10.22.11 @ 10:47AM
THIS IS NO SUSRPRISE TO ALL WHO KNOW THAT "iggy" has always been a "biggy' in the old NEW WORLD ORDER
MOS 1 1 2 | 10.22.11 @ 11:02AM
Can one of you people just give some references
to back up all this New World Order, he's a demon, he's a Nazi, he's a commie B.S.
You don't agree with him. So what? But take off those tin-foil hats and give up those conspiracy blogs. Read Pat Buchanan, an intelligent conservative, who also sees the coming collapse of Western Civilization, and perhaps America with it, but who doesn't spread conspiracy theories.
Wayne| 10.22.11 @ 6:40PM
Would you deny that the Democratic Party is a conspiracy? Would you deny that unions are in cahouts with the Democratic Party? Do you deny cronyism? Get out of here with you bogus claims there is no conspiracy.
Occam's Tool| 10.23.11 @ 10:16PM
Buchanan is also an incomplete thinker who would sacrifice allies in the fight against Sharia, and is a Nazi apologist. (See his revisionist history of WWII.)
MOS 1 1 2 | 10.24.11 @ 11:33PM
@ Occam's Tool
"Buchanan is also an incomplete thinker who would sacrifice allies in the fight against Sharia, and is a Nazi apologist. (See his revisionist history of WWII.)"
You mean Buchanan's " The Unnecessary War" ? Did you read it? I doubt it.
The book's thesis is that Hitler wanted to go east and conquer Eastern Europe and might never have attacked to the West, if Britain and France hadn't had a treaty with Poland, which they were incapable of protecting. Revisionist history of a sort, but he never apologized for Hitler.
The Achilles heel is that he doesn't, as I recall, deal with the Holocaust. He is too engrossed with the disastrous results of the rise of the USSR and Red China, leading us into the Korean and Vietnam Wars.
Calling Pat Buchanan pro Nazi fits into the same pattern as calling Bzrezinski a communist. ["Have you no shame, Senator McCarthy?"]
Oldefarte| 10.22.11 @ 2:57PM
My limited impression of this man was/is that he is a typical liberal/progressive POMPOUS WINDBAG. The truly disgusting aspect of him can be viewed from his occasional visits to the MSNBC Morning Joe show, wherer both his duaghter and host Joe Scarborough fall all over their respective tongues in gushing adoration of this idiot. To me, he is the personification of the old saying about NOT KNOWING YOUR ARS FROM A HOLE IN THE GROUND, or maybe in countryfold language resembling a JACKARS EATIN' BRIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bill McDowell| 10.22.11 @ 3:19PM
Hi Paul,
Your readers might be interested if you ever asked the Dr. if he knew/instructed Barack Obama while Barack was a student at Columbia during Barack's years there in '81 thru '83? I understand that Dr. Brzezinski was on the faculty ('60-'89), where he headed the Institute on Communist Affairs and was one of the two most preeminent instructors in Barack's major at Columbia. That major was political science with a specialty in international relations.
alborn| 10.22.11 @ 10:37PM
What you think you know about this man must be wrong or his daughter would not be the liberal nut job that she is on MSNBC. The nut does not fall far from the tree.
POST American| 10.23.11 @ 12:33AM
----------------BOTTOMLESS LINE--------------------
AS we over 30 are REAL-EYES---ZING
that we're living under a cancer death sentence
---thanks to the brilliantly EUGENIC
innovation of loading the POLIO (----and
how many other?) shots with LIVE simian
40 sleeper cancer viruses---------UH----------
we'd better DROP our concern with preserving
whatever 'innie' status we imagine we have,
whatever rectum basting 'bennies' we imagine
we're entitled to.
Time to face up, and MAN UP to the
'REAL--'IT'---HE' wrought by ZB, Kissinger
et al on behalf of Rockefeller, ROT-child,
Maurice Strong, and whoever they're
'hidden masters' might be.
It REALLY, REALLY, ------REALLY IS
time to put ALLLLLL attention, urgency
and unflinching concern on---
-----------------the Globalist-RED China---------------
-------------set up, sellout, world TREASON---------
--------------------and EUGENICS---------------------
------------------------------OP----------------------------
REALLY
------------------------REALLY
-----------------------------------------------REALLY
Tim the Enchanter| 10.24.11 @ 2:18PM
Huh?
Sarbo| 10.23.11 @ 1:17AM
What "global" riots is the geriatric speaking of? Last I checked, there are no "occupiers" in India, China, Russia or Africa.
This is a white, anglo-sax, prot (WASP) problem. I have always held that the anglo-sax West befooled itself into thinking it was a two-party democracy. It never was since it made a bid for world domination. In America, there is one-party monopoly. A party which never has to stand for election. The Wall Street party, with both Republican and Democratic shareholders. In Britain, it is the City. The inheritors of the colomial edicts in India and (cotton-producing)America.
I have no sympathy for the "occupy" hordes. I also have no sympathy for the Wasps and their Baptist roots. Welcome to the new world.
Wayne| 10.23.11 @ 9:17AM
This is so full of generalizations that its mind-boggling.
Count D' Money| 10.23.11 @ 10:38AM
Maybe old Ziggy has hit on something here...yea let's name names: Jim Johnson (head of Fannie Mae and orchestrated the high risk loans then re-packaged them as high grade securities. Took a fortune for himself and let the taxpayers with the bill), the entire CEO's of the Bond Rating companies of Standard & Poors, Moodys and Fitch (rated these high risk mortgage backed securities as AAA and made a forture on them in fees), the CEO's of Goldman Sachs including dear Hank Paulson who sold these mortgage securities to their clients while hedging themselves against these sales, etc. There is more for the Guilontine list coming...
John Barnes| 10.23.11 @ 11:40AM
What you have to recall about Zbig latest comments is that he is INSANELY jealous of Henry Kissinger. The latter is wealthy, Zbig, alas, is not. I think he's pretty confident HK's name will appear on that list and his won't.
POST American| 10.23.11 @ 10:30PM
--------------BEYOND BOTTOMLESS-----------------
"Understand, the Globalists are NOT
afraid of RED China. They created
RED China, installed MAO TSE TUNG
for standardization and aggressive
depopulation. They brought RED
China up ---with your factories, your
education system, ALLLL underwritten
---by YOU. RED China is now being
hailed by the PRIVATE, corporate
front UN as 'Model for the World'
and is soon to be 'World Enforcer'."
-ALAN WATT
(essential online coverage)
"We ARE using MASSIVE third
world immigration to DESTROY
British culture, beyond repair,
once and for all ----FOREVER."
-TONY BLAIR
Fmr PM/ ---future EU President/
Globalist/ Cultural EUGENIST/ Psychopath
(2005 Daily Mail interview cited
by ALAN WATT online)
And still, no one's explained just how
either the world in general, or the US
in particular, are 'better off' for 3 decades
of 'strategic management' by David Rockefeller
front man ---Brzeznski?
AS Globalism and USURY destroy
nations, --indeed, destroy 'all that was'
(Masonic doctrine) ---the REALLY neat
trick is how they get you to hold their
karma bag.
----And, even funnier, having pulled that
off, the final trick --getting you to think that
you are still thinking at all.
----Think about it-----
-----------HUAC meets NUREMBERG 2012---------
Tim the Enchanter| 10.24.11 @ 2:19PM
Huh?
Abu Nudnik| 10.30.11 @ 1:53PM
Only if I thought like you would I be thinking. Too bad there's no pill for paranoia and Alan Watts.
Donald Palke| 10.27.11 @ 12:40PM
Not hard to figure out. Brzezinski has joined the NWO forces in their grand plans for the makeover of human society. It is communism by another name.
Daniel Middleman| 1.29.12 @ 9:44PM
I think you are being far too kind to Brezinski. His rantings against the Bush administration clearly marked him as a man of the Far-Left. And you act as though Obama is a one-man show, capable of mesmerizing and deluding democrats. The fact is that the Democrat party is a party run by the Far-Left. Jonah Goldberg's excellent book Liberal Fascism clearly shows the extremist roots of modern liberals and puts the lie to the modern liberal history books.