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Romney Hasn’t Earned the GOP Nomination
How can he be declared victor before a single primary vote has been cast? Though that’s not the half of it.
Notwithstanding the fact that not a single ballot has been cast in any of the Republican primaries, there seems to be a concerted effort by the liberal media to bestow the GOP nomination upon former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney.
According to the Detroit Free Press, “Mitt Romney’s steady-as-she-goes campaign for the presidential nomination is beginning to look inevitable.” The Washington Post tells us that Romney “is suddenly attracting new support from major donors and elected officials… as people across the GOP grow more accepting of the presidential contender as the party’s standard-bearer.” Doyle McManus of the Los Angeles Times declares, “It’s beginning to look as if the former Massachusetts governor will win the nomination almost by default.”
Isn’t it peculiar that Romney is “beginning” to look like the inevitable, Republican nominee at the very moment that Herman Cain is resonating amongst conservatives and surging in the polls? Can the liberal media (and for that matter some GOP donors and elected officials) really be this spooked by Cain? Well, he sure does mess up their “Tea Partiers hate having a black man in the White House” narrative quite nicely. It’s kind of difficult for the liberal media to credibly cast Republicans as racist if they nominate a black man. In fact, casting such aspersions against Tea Partiers would look really, really stupid. Without the Tea Party there would be no Cain surge.
As for Romney, let’s just say he has long way to go before he earns the respect of the Tea Party. At best, Romney is tolerated, as was the case when he received a lukewarm reception at a Tea Party Express rally in New Hampshire last month. At worst, Romney is viewed with outright hostility and suspicion. Back in May, FreedomWorks, a Tea Party umbrella group, stated they were looking to thwart Romney’s path to the GOP nomination. Their communications director Adam Brandon said at the time, “Romney has a record and we don’t really like it that much.” In June, a Tea Party group led by former Alaska GOP Senate candidate Joe Miller launched a “Stop Romney” campaign in New Hampshire. As Miller put it, “We will never get behind Mitt Romney. On issues like gun rights, gay rights, abortion, immigration, and health care, Romney has flipped more than John Kerry flopped.” Earlier this month, another Tea Party organization (this one led by gospel singer Lloyd Marcus) launched its own campaign to “Stop Romney.” Clearly, Romney has his work cut out for him and it’s going to take more than one speech for Tea Party activists to embrace his candidacy.
But this is hardly Romney’s only problem. Even if Romney were to triumph in Iowa and New Hampshire, no Republican worth his salt can win the nomination without winning the South. According to the most recent poll taken in South Carolina, Herman Cain leads the Palmetto state by a two to one margin over Romney (32% to 16%). (10) Romney can say Boeing and the National Labor Relations Board until his voice gets hoarse. It is difficult to imagine South Carolina, much less the rest of the South, opting for Romney over one of their own.
So why is there such a strong resistance amongst conservatives towards Romney? It could be summed up in three words: lack of authenticity. This is hardly a revelation. It was the core of his problem in his 2008 presidential run and little has changed since. Here is how I put it in December 2007:
Mitt Romney’s presentation looks and sounds very much like his use of Power Point – very smooth and slick. But how many people are like this in real life?….This isn’t to say that Romney isn’t the genuine article. No one should expect Romney to start sporting dreadlocks and telling people he listens to Wyclef Jean. That would be equally inauthentic. But as long as Romney comes off as a used car salesman, game show host or, dare I say, television Evangelist, his candidacy is doomed because people will only see style without substance.
While Romney may have tremendous financial resources at his disposal, he has a deficit of authenticity. Herman Cain, on the other hand, has a surplus of authenticity. What you see is what you get. You know where you stand with Cain on the issues. Authenticity won’t guarantee Cain the GOP nomination but it will take him a very long way. The same simply cannot be said for Romney. After all these years, conservatives don’t know where Romney stands from one day to the next. So long as that is case, how can Romney expect conservatives to support him? As one conservative, Catholic blogger bluntly put it:
Go ahead, GOP. Nominate this health-care regulating, pro-abortion, flip-flopping liberal, phony, RINO stiff. But believe me when I say that I will NEVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, EVER vote for him.
The liberal media might want to call off the coronation. After all, we don’t elect kings. Republican voters might like to have their say as to who becomes their nominee against President Obama. At this point, Mitt Romney simply hasn’t earned the GOP nomination.
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POST American| 10.18.11 @ 6:18AM
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coal carrier| 10.18.11 @ 6:47AM
Great synopses Post.
In the words of Mr. Cain, this dog don’t hunt!
Teaghan| 10.18.11 @ 8:30AM
Great one Post! Thanks!
Bill| 10.18.11 @ 1:14PM
A CAPSTONE con - wow, they're the very worst kind!
Maria | 10.18.11 @ 6:11PM
Herman Cain was for the banker bailouts as well. Also, there's that nasty Aquila scandal.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 6:35PM
Ron Paul is for Iran having nukes. It doesn't bother him one bit. You're in fantasy-land.
Herman Cain is for America First, he's a REAL conservative.
And no wuss, either.
Clint| 10.18.11 @ 7:35PM
Dr.Ron Paul's Foreign Policy Advisor Michael scheuer, Former CIAC Chief Of The bin Laden Unit,
" On Iran, The President should:
1.) Explain to the American people that Iran is no threat to the United States unless we or Israel attack it first, and then it would be a serious threat to U.S. access to energy and would likely stage terrorist operations in the continental United States. [The last thanks to 30-years of federal immigration policies that leave us without knowledge of who is in the country or what they are capable of doing.]
2.) Publicly state that there will be no U.S. surprise attack on Iran, and no U.S. attack at all on Iran unless the president asks for a formal declaration of war and the Congress votes its approval in a constitutional manner.
3.) Call in Israel's ambassador to the United States and tell him that we understand that Israel believes Iran is a threat to its survival, and that we agree that Israel has every right to defend itself. If Israel believes it must go to war with Iran, then so be it. But also tell the ambassador that if Israel attacks Iran, the U.S. administration will declare U.S. neutrality in the war and immediately cut off military and financial support to all combatants in the war.
4.) Speak to the American people and tell them to expect to be brutally propagandized by U.S. citizen Israel-Firsters through AIPAC, their ubiquitous media shills, and the men and women they own in the U.S. Congress and federal bureaucracy. Urge Americans to ignore this effort by U.S. Israel-Firsters to get them to send their soldier-children to fight in a religious war in which the U.S. has no genuine national interest at stake, and in which U.S. participation would further bankrupt the country, require the reintroduction of conscription, and put America at war with all of the Muslim world -- Shia and Sunni -- for the foreseeable future."
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
AZ Rick| 10.18.11 @ 9:25PM
Paragraph 3 - Ron Paul's foreign policy - "We're neutral - you're screwed!"
Ron Paul is a freaking DANGEROUS IDIOT! I'd vote for the Obamanation before I'd let this nut job anywhere near the White House!
Rich Birkett | 10.19.11 @ 3:39AM
Who's screwed? Israel is more than capable of defending itself without US help.
Rich Birkett | 10.19.11 @ 3:34AM
I suppose Paul is also for Israel having nukes (oh Israel already has them), India having nukes, Pakistan having nukes, Russia having nukes, US having nukes. It's not that he favors them, but he's unwilling to stop them with military force, and to do so is hypocrisy. I forgot, a lot of Paul critics have no problem with hypocrisy as long as its in their self-interest.
The Bishop| 10.18.11 @ 6:25AM
Yes, the media has been very good to the Republican Party. Why what a debt Repubs owe them for McCain. God bless the media. Did say bless? I meant to use a different word.
Bob K.| 10.18.11 @ 8:34AM
That is because they want Obama to win and they push the Republican candidate they think will be easiest for him to beat.
Kitty| 10.18.11 @ 6:26AM
I'm with you, Aaron, but what is our alternative if McRomney is the nominee? It's a serious question, not rhetorical. Do we not pull a lever for president? Do we write in a name -- Palin, Cain, etc.?
Bob K.| 10.18.11 @ 8:37AM
He has to win the primaries first. If he doesn't you will have your alternative.
John Navratil| 10.18.11 @ 9:33AM
Kitty,
As Bob K. says, first the primaries, then the general.
The first order of business is actually the second task - get Obama out of the Whitehouse. There is no chance to override his vetoes.
The second order of business, which we will actually tackle in the primaries, is to rid the Republican Party of its "big government" adherents - that would include Romney. I fear a replay of 2000-2006 if the Old Guard Republicans (OGREs) get control of the three branches of government. It appears that Herman Cain is better suited to this task.
Machtyn| 10.18.11 @ 3:42PM
Isn't it interesting that Romney ran the "clean up Washington" campaign in 2008. He ran, and continues to run, on a small government platform. He has proven time and again that he is skillful in reducing waste and improving profit in the private sector, in the Olympics (an international affair), and in government (MA went from a $3 billion deficit to a $2 billion surplus). He did this in a very liberal state. He was TEA party before there was a TEA party.
To say Mitt is establishment this time around is to belie the facts as they are. The establishment did not get behind anyone until just recently. And they had to flirt with Perry, Palin, and Christie (at least) before they started to make their move to Romney.
Oh sure, there is a lot of media now that Romney is the de facto nominee. But the only "news" channel most of the right pays attention to, FoxNews, is firmly in the Not-Romney camp. Still, the MSM, while trying to coronate Romney as the winner, is also touting Huntsman as the second best thing since sliced bread. This shows you how reliable the MSM is.
Any intelligent supporter of Romney will tell you he still has a long way to go. He has to fight through bigotry, misinformation about his positions, and misperceptions of his stances and his record.
And finally, what does Herman Cain have that Romney does not already have and then some? Private sector business experience? Check. Foreign Policy experience? Cain is not too strong in that, Romney has experience and has built a strong team.
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 10:05AM
Kitty,
Let's burn that bridge when we get to it.
Bill Hussein O'Stalin| 10.18.11 @ 6:38AM
The article is ridiculous in the sense that it claims Romney is a used car salesman.
All politicians are used car salesmen because they have to be. There are no new ideas in politics, just different methods of buying your vote with your money.
The public as used car recipients get what they deserve since they keep buying it.
What is Romney's greatest sin? Healthcare for all, the ultimate used car jab.
There are many in the public who like it. Not those paying the higher costs, but the people in out society who will not pay for health care anyway.
Khrushchev once stated that politicians are the same all over, "promising bridges where there aren't any rivers."
What makes anyone think that Republicans really want a real conservative as opposed to another big government embracer?
If history is any guide simply look at McCain. He was no conservative. He was a professional lump of jelly with no backbone. With that he was hailed as a bona fide candidate.
The main stream of the Republican Party is hardly conservative.
In that sense, the article doesn't make any valid points, but is simply a wish list.
Bob K.| 10.18.11 @ 8:16AM
What the Hell! Everybody here is talking like there won't be primaries!
Romney still has to run in them and win the nomination there. Even the "used car salesman" did in 1968.
Anything can happen between now and then.
canuckistani| 10.18.11 @ 8:46AM
....and the fact the article quoted Joe Miller on anything is also a forfeiting mistake.
Even Paul in his platform leaves SS and MC untouched. Is his plan cynical or realistic? Paulites will have some handwringing to do.
Perhaps the American people are the root cause of the malaise and not Washington with their unwillingness to pay as they go for services?
At this point, I can't put my finger on it, but the settling on another RINO for the nom is very disappointing. That a clean candidate cannot emerge with a workable plan, and not be able to sell it to even the GOP primary voter is a debacle.
Clint| 10.18.11 @ 6:47AM
Neither Romney nor Cain are Tea Party Guys.
Both were TARP Guys.
Romney is The RomneyCare Guy.
Cain is The FED Guy(He was against auditing The FED, before he was for auditing The FED)
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
chuck| 10.18.11 @ 7:22AM
Cain is a Tea Party favorite, from the very start of the movement. He always is one of the favorite speakers at their events.
Your guy, Ron....er.....excuse me,...DOCTOR Ron Paul........not so much!
Clint| 10.18.11 @ 7:35AM
"Tea party activists are divided roughly into two camps, according to a POLITICO/TargetPoint poll: one that’s libertarian-minded and largely indifferent to hot-button values issues and another that’s culturally conservative and equally concerned about social and fiscal issues.
The survey, an exit poll conducted by Edison Research at the massive Tax Day protest on the National Mall, found that the attendees were largely hostile to President Barack Obama and the national Democratic Party — three-quarters believe the president “is pursuing a socialist agenda.”
Yet they aren’t enamored of the Republican Party as an alternative. Overall, three out of four tea party attendees said they were “scared about the direction” of the country and “want to send a message to both political parties.”
Palin, who topped the list with 15 percent, speaks for the 43 percent of those polled expressing the distinctly conservative view that government does too much, while also saying that it needs to promote traditional values.
Paul’s thinking is reflected by an almost identical 42 percent who said government does too much but should not try to promote any particular set of values — the hallmarks of libertarians. He came in second to Palin with 12 percent.
When asked to choose from a list of candidates for president in 2012, Palin and Paul also finished one-two — with Palin at 15 percent and Paul at 14 percent. "
The Tea Party Rebellion Is Here.
Dick Nome| 10.18.11 @ 8:11AM
Ron Paul isn't a Tea Party guy either and if you are using Politico as a source for anything it shows you aren't either.
Clint| 10.18.11 @ 8:15AM
You're A Serial Israel Firster Slandering Liar & A Self-Proclaimed Dick.
The Tea Party Steps On Dick's Head.
canuckistani| 10.18.11 @ 8:56AM
Clint, the Israel thing is a distraction that acts like your "squirrel", when your comments outside of that are pretty clear and comprehensible. Not always correct, but reasoned.
The Israel argument is unwinnable against the hysterical Third Templars on here. They've already equated Israel criticism with anti-semitism, so they have chosen defcon 1, and the schoolyard method of handling division. There is no more hope for them and the slow slide into oblivion has begun - unless they step back and realize their tactical flaws and admit they have over-reached. It's possible.
David W| 10.18.11 @ 9:03AM
I'm wondering, do you use the same set of responses to anyone who may disagree with you. I'm not sure what "Serial Israel Firster" really means (Is that a Ron Paul thing). And why you would use that in response to Mr. Nome's comment doesn't make much sense. Of course, when you end most of your posts with that "Tea Party Rebellion is Here" it makes me wonder if you are really a Tea Partier or a liberal in Tea Party clothes.
Doctor Right| 10.18.11 @ 9:35AM
Ron Paul = 5%
Ron Paul LOSES to Obama in latest poll.
Herman Cain BEATS Obama in latest poll.
http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....l_matchups
Dick Nome| 10.18.11 @ 10:05AM
Must be a real trick walking around all day with your head up your Arse. Hard on the back too. Try some new insults, you are getting stale.
Doctor Right| 10.18.11 @ 11:09AM
Clint's a "one-trick" head-up-the-arse kinda' guy...
Mike Hawk| 10.18.11 @ 1:03PM
He's a one-trick-dick as well. Clint's act is getting tiresome. He acts more like an 'Occupy' kind of clod than a Tea Party guy.
Lee Ghume| 10.18.11 @ 3:54PM
He is just happy to have such a nice dick there to pick on.
Bob K.| 10.18.11 @ 8:41AM
Polls don't get to vote in Primaries. They do get to see if their predictions are accurate however.
They usually aren't.
Dick Nome| 10.18.11 @ 10:16AM
Paulbots get to vote as many times as they want or can.
SpiralArchitect| 10.18.11 @ 4:22PM
Polls very rare get over 1ooo participants.
Polls are touted as what everyone thinks.
Polls can use many a method of slanting for a desirable response from a potentially select(ed) group.
Polls are relvant for the 'winner' to have a look at me moment, the press to press opinions of the few as the belife of the many & for a 'news' source that has no journalist (re: needs a story).
Maria | 10.18.11 @ 6:16PM
Dr. Ron Paul is the favorite of the REAL TEA Party! He won't raise taxes or make NEW taxes, like Mr. CAIN. He actually understands economics and the benefits of a humble foreign policy - like the one both Reagan and GWB ran on (but, sadly, did not stick to). He also understands the benefits of low taxes, and actually CUTTING spending - by 1 TRILLION! Cain doesn't even know what a Neoconservative is - or the fact that he IS one! :)
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 6:31PM
Ron Paul is a lunatic.
An old, sad lunatic.
He will never win the nomination, so you may as well give up the fantasy.
Clint| 10.18.11 @ 7:39PM
The Big Yellow Margie Bus Calls The Lemon Pie Yellow.
Speaking Of Old Sad Lunatics, How's The Crippled Russkie, Victor ?
Talk About Drawing To A Pair Of Losers.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 10:54PM
To thou:
All people are losers, except ones that think like you.
My Husband may have physical problems, but at least his moral character exists, and is good, unlike yours.
You're a child in a man's body, kiddo.
And you follow men and not God.
Repent, liar, and believe the Gospel of God. Beginning at Mark 1:1.
Doctor Right| 10.18.11 @ 9:35AM
Ron Paul = 5%
Ron Paul LOSES to Obama in latest poll.
Herman Cain BEATS Obama in latest poll.
http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....l_matchups
Maria | 10.18.11 @ 6:18PM
Polls are a dime a dozen. THIS one says he wins.
http://www.fitsnews.com/2011/0.....test-poll/
Kelly Warnick| 10.18.11 @ 7:05AM
It seems there is a infestation of extremism in which both the Democratic and Republican Partison-SHIPS afloat have their hulls filled with rats. So, for the good of Port Washington, until the rodents can be contained...the good and valuable passengers on both ships cannot disembark their respective vessels and make things happen up on the hill. We need a philanthropic and bipartisan "Pied Piper" to escort out the extreme and unworkable faction of the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street ideologies. The silent majority are more in the middle and advocate understanding and compromise. Mitt Romney, with his history of restructuring enterprises for succuss, getting bipartison things done as Governor in a highly red state, and pulling a failing Olympics out of the brink of disaster right after 9/11 is highly qualified for the job that Obama is failing to accomplish.
chuck| 10.18.11 @ 7:28AM
Mass. is a blue state. How do you compromise with a Democrat party which elects Nastyassed Pelosi as its leader? A party that nominate the likes of Obama as their presidential nominee? They can not be compromised with, they must be defeated at the ballot box. Don't compromise, defeat them, or bring them to our positions.
canuckistani| 10.18.11 @ 9:03AM
Stupid is as stupid does.
You have a guy in the WH that will take ANY victory. We are in a position to sue for almost any concession, still hang problems on him and accept accolades if they succeed.
Willard will not repeal HCR. He will not reinstate DADT. He will not be averse to TARP2 or QE3. He will not advocate repeal of Roe v Wade. The corporatists will go to town with Willard on legitimate regs that actually defend people from criminals.
Get over it. We have the perfect RINO already in the WH....it's BHO, and we're blowing the chance to steer this guy down the garden path.
I think it's called a "useful idiot".
Doctor Right| 10.18.11 @ 9:38AM
What this "we" nonsense???
fmm| 10.18.11 @ 12:51PM
Given Romney's ideology, he should have run for governor on the DEMOCRATIC ticket in the BLUE state of Mass. Then we would not have had to put up with his insincere flip-flops on so many issues when he ran for the GOP nomination for president. Romney isn't even a RINO, but a FRINO (F for Fake).
Maria | 10.18.11 @ 6:20PM
Snakes on a Campaign: Mitt Romney flip-flopper and panderer in Chief.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3etUOq7hVE
P.Smith| 10.18.11 @ 7:32AM
I have a policy of never voting for an abortion supporter no matter what his other qualities might be. If you believe it is okay to kill a baby then you are a monster. Romney is only claiming to be Pro-life because he knows that in order to be nominated into the Republican Party it is required. He cannot be trusted. It also says something about mormonism to allow a man that supports abortion to be a stake leader.
POST American| 10.18.11 @ 7:44AM
BTW ----as we bury still another
middle-aged relative come down with
a bizarre cancer (---the 7th!)
---------------------UH-----------------------
we kiddies better get on the stick on
prosecuting the EUGENIST psychopaths
manning the helm of our 'med--ICK--ALLLL'
establishment.
In case you haven't been paying attention,
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AGAIN, that's the former 'Hero of Med--is--sin'
and arch EUGENIST, Dr. Jonas SALK.
--------------------Keep takin' them shots!
Teaghan| 10.18.11 @ 8:36AM
Along with Margret Sanger. Eugenics to thin the herd of blacks and those not worthy of living.
Ken (Old Texican)| 10.18.11 @ 7:55AM
In the final analysis, I guess I'm in the "anybody but Obama" camp.I DO know there is only one R candidate who has proven he can govern properly.
Along about December, Mr. Cain is going to run out of cash...and with no volunteer organization.
I do hope Mr. Perry has been boning up on one line zingers for tonight.
John Navratil| 10.18.11 @ 9:45AM
Ken,
I'm tickled that we actually have enough candidates to disagree over. The last time the right was so dispirited, all we had was a kabuki theater with candidates trying to game to board rather than connect to the electorate.
IX-XI| 10.19.11 @ 8:25PM
Mr. Cain will run out of cash until he shows well in Iowa. Then it will be about Nevada because SC and Florida belong to him, and the cash will be flowing. If Nevada tips his way, Romney better hoard that cash because the donations are going to start going to Cain instead.
I only hope Romney shows as much character this time around as last time when he conceded the race to McCain and threw his support behind the eventual nominee.
Granny Jan WMass| 10.18.11 @ 8:09AM
Romney will do to the Republican party nationally what he did to it in Mass. When he began his term there were only 12 Republican state legislators. When it ended there were 6.
I voted for Scott Brown but never got my hopes up. He'll lose and we'll be back to zero Republicans again.
Mass. will lose electoral votes and my creepy, leftist Rep. Olver can go back to his chemistry lab and take his one commericial ad played every two years with him.
Anotherwords, never vote for anyone from Massachusetts (now NH) and Chicago for that matter.
Bruce| 10.18.11 @ 8:23AM
Ken;
Some of the other debates appeared that Perry tried to load up on "zingers" and was out-zinged. Maybe he and the others should focus on telling us their plans for the country instead of snipe hunting. I'm sure that won't happen though, because look at the network and moderator that were chosen for the debates. Here's a new idea for the Republican National Committee. Invest in the REPUBLICAN TELEVISION NETWORK. When nomination time rolls around, dedicate two to three nights for each candidate to talk for a full hour about their PLAN. They aren't allowed to criticize any other candidate who speaks before them. Then, do one-on-one debates the following week. No moderation except to provide a topic - not a question, just a topic. Limit the debate on each topic to 20 minutes (in five minute segments for each candidate) and the time for the program to 2 hours. This would allow for about 5-6 topics. Again, the only candidate to be mentioned is the one you are speaking against. Next, set up a round-table discussion amongst the 5 poll leaders. Give them 3 hours of TV time to have at it and tear each other apart as they see fit.
Ken (Old Texican)| 10.18.11 @ 8:57AM
Well Bruce,
I was speakig tongue in cheek there. You are precisely right with your prescription above.
The real point I was making is that Rick is the ONLY candidate that has a solid RECORD of responsible governance.
fmm| 10.18.11 @ 1:04PM
Given his poor explanations of his great governance since entering the frey, I would expect Perry's record is actually the work of the GOP legislature in Texas. Can we run that collective for pres instead?
Samuel Adams| 10.18.11 @ 5:22PM
That's what the Republican Establishment says, too. That one must have a "solid RECORD of governing."
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 7:41PM
Sam Adams and I are in complete agreement as to just whom ought to govern, and it has nothing to do with "previous governmental experience, OR skin color.
"Every citizen will see, and I hope be deeply impressed with a sense of it, how exceedingly important it is to himself, and how intimately the welfare of his children is connected with it, that those who are to have a share in making as well as in judging and executing the laws should be men of singular wisdom and integrity."
- Samuel Adams Boston Gazette, April 2, 1781
Read more: http://www.revolutionary-war-a.....z1bB9zbcsl
Dan| 10.18.11 @ 10:03PM
Margie is now using Samuel Adams as a name so she can have someone to talk to.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 10:56PM
Dan,
Do you have a life?
Please live it.
Punk.
Dannyboy| 10.19.11 @ 3:28PM
Mu
My life now is responding to anti Catholic bigotry like yours.
Your life seems only to spew anti Catholic bigotry daily so we'll be conversing.
Casey Abell| 10.18.11 @ 9:03AM
Always suspected that Aaron wanted four more years of Obama. Gives him a lot of good copy.
Well, go ahead, GOP. Nominate Aaron's guy, Mr. National Sales Tax. Then watch as Barry creams him worse than McCain.
Because the voters just can't wait to give nearly a tenth of their money to the feds in a nice new tax. And after Barry's billion-dollar warchest wraps that tax around Cain's neck tighter than a '50s bow tie, the voters will tell Herm to go far, far away.
Teflon93| 10.18.11 @ 10:54AM
Yeah, because the trust fund white boy whose church didn't ordain black men until he was 30 years old and who can't even appeal to more than one-fourth of his own party is going to beat Obama.
You know, the guy who lost to the guy who Obama whipped last time around.
Casey Abell| 10.18.11 @ 12:02PM
Actually I'm a Perry supporter (maybe the last one).
But if you think voters care about Mormonism more than their own hard-earned money...well, let's just say that's not a correct view. People ain't gonna flock to the polls and beg the feds to take away nearly a tenth of their money in a swell new tax.
And they won't care anything about Mormon ordinations.
Teflon93| 10.18.11 @ 1:07PM
They will once Obama finishes race-carding Romney---just like he did with Perry. Notice Perry's not even in the top 3 any longer.
Casey Abell| 10.18.11 @ 2:10PM
Well, who knows? But Obama is already comfortably ahead of every other Republican besides Romney...
http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....dates.html
Romney's Mormonism has been out there forever and he's still pretty much tied with Obama. I'd say that Cain's swell new national sales tax is a lot more potent weapon for Obama than Mormon priesthood qualifications.
Let's get real. If it comes down to Cain vs. Obama, what are voters going to worry about? Losing nearly ten percent of their money to a bright shiny new tax? Yeah, I'd say that might be a teensy-weensy concern in this economy. Just a little more important than Mormon ordinations.
If folks think that a national sales tax is an electoral winner, fine. Some people think the earth is flat, the moon is made out of green cheese, and Kim Kardashian will be scrupulously faithful to her new hubby. (What IS his name, anyway?)
But I beg to differ.
Samuel Adams| 10.18.11 @ 5:27PM
You need to get up to snuff.
Cain beats Obama as of yesterday:
http://www.newsroomamerica.com/story/182470.html
Dan| 10.18.11 @ 6:24PM
Margie, using Samuel Adams?
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 6:30PM
Clint, using Dan?
Dan| 10.18.11 @ 6:53PM
Not Clint,M
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 7:06PM
Same sick spirit, stalking creep.
Buzz off.
Clint| 10.18.11 @ 7:43PM
ARINO-CINO pocalyptic Crank Lady Margie Is Paranoid.
You're Afraid Of The Tea Party & Our Co-Favorite Presidential Candidate Dr.Ron Paul.
The Tea Party Steps On Margie's Fat Ass.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 10:57PM
A child in a man's body, thy name is Clinty-poo.
LOL. Sicko.
chuck| 10.18.11 @ 10:54PM
Can you actually THINK about the 9-9-9 plan before you criticize it? Instead of 7.65% + 15-35% more for federal income tax taken out of your paycheck, a straight 9% is taken out. More money in your check! Corporate taxes lowered to a flat 9% instead of the current rate that is one of the highest in the world. A big boom to business, more jobs! Less taxes to pay means lower prices. Competition will assure that. 9% only on what you buy. You save or invest, no tax! And these are the only taxes the Feds will collect. Simple, fair!
bluecollarbytes| 10.18.11 @ 9:17AM
it isn't just the 'liberal media' trying to select Romney as the inevitable. Hugh Hewitt and others are doing the same thing although through 'objective analysis' of some kind. (I do highly respect Mr. Hewitt however).
Here's a question- When is pres. Barack H Obama going to acknowledge the Herman Cain phenomenon? And will he be asked whether Cain's supporters are racist or whether Cain is an uncle tom? Will Obama be asked about Cain's belief in self-motivation, hard work and 'winning' through individual excellence?
Louis Jenkins| 10.18.11 @ 9:35AM
I do not believe Herman Cain will be creamed by Obama in a national debate. In fact, Obama will be loath to debate Herman Cain. Cain doesn't need a teleprompter and Obama doesn't have a leg to stand on. To a certain extent the nation is not with Obama. Yes, I am uncomfortable with a national sales tax, but as Cain has said, even the poor will have to pay their fair share. That's the problem-FREE LOADERs have rode the system since 1965, and more are getting on the wagon until the wagon is about to collapse! It's time everyone pulls their weight instead of doing the soft shoe. Perry has shot himself in the foot with his immigration policy, and Romney, while he sounds good, is just spouting the same old tired retoric of the RINOs. A yes, Cain has some of the trappings of a RINO too, but he has some decent ideas. I don't really care if Romney is a Mormon; he is plainly a Democrate cast as a Republican.
Scott| 10.18.11 @ 2:26PM
Cain didn't even know what a neoconservative was this past Sunday. Its the most basic of debates going on within the GOP over the past decade in the foreign policy realm. He has no advisors, he has no staff, he has no campaign. He's not going to be the nominee. He is selling books, ala Palin.
Are conservatives so desperate for someone, anyone, that they can't see through this with these people?
JohnM| 10.18.11 @ 9:47AM
My first thought about Romney is "Quitter". He quit part way through the 2008 primary, wasting alot of votes and ensuring McCain would win the primary. Leaders don't quit. Leaders may lose and come back again but they don't quit.
Simon Templar| 10.18.11 @ 10:50AM
I think Goldberg on the Ted Baxter Factor layed it all out quite well the other day.
It was the first revealing and honest conversation they ever had on television.
According to 'traditionalist' Goldberg, us 'purist' are the problem. His terms, not mine.
We purist just can not get it into our unreasonable minds that we can not elect a true conservative to the US presidency, Reagan was not really a conservative, and an unprincipled RINO is the best we can do.
Apparently a flip floppping northeastern, progressive Rino is a shoe in and is acceptable to the public at large. Never mind that his record is very questionable and very problematic. The winner..the ticket. We can even elect socialist democrats..that is ok. Conservatives need not apply.
They are scared, no doubt about it. The control of the Party and the nomination process appears like it may be slipping out of their fingers. You thought that this was a democratic process? You thought you had anything to say about the direction of this nation? Shame on you!
Now, the narrative goes like this...if you crazy purist do not listen to us elites, it will be on your heads and your fault that Bam gets another four years.
So, stop all that silly talk about smaller government, and end to the fraud, waste, corruption, tax reform, deficit reduction and a balanced budget.
Never mind those polls when they contradict us. Cain can not win even if Rasmussen puts him ahead of Bam by 6 points. Never mind that crap about the nation being center to right that we spew out very day, your purist values just do not shake out in a national election despite those polls.
See, it is us establishment elites that decide, not you nor the public at large. That 2010 election was a fluke. So, give it up, purist, we will outspend you and undermine all your conservative candidates with all hell and fury cause we control the message along with our progressive pals over at MSNBC.
-Signed Bernie Goldberg and all the rest of us traditionalist and paternalistic bastards, just looking out for the folks.
Al Adab| 10.18.11 @ 11:28AM
If an establishment, big government Republican is as close to an electable Conservative as we can get, then indeed we are better served by the re-election of Obama. (audible gasp) The reason is simple. If a statist future is all that there is to look forward too, it matters who is in charge. Such a system is doomed to fail and it is better for history and for future generations to understand that statism is a failed theory and that liberty, even at the price of material well being, is most to be valued. Let the left and their totalitarians be blamed then future generations may yet rediscover the values of freedom and end sooner rather than later this new dark age of tyranny about to descend upon the world.
W| 10.18.11 @ 2:03PM
Al Adab,
I actually like politicians who "flip flop" because at least they are responding to the voters, just as Clinton did after the 1994 elections to work with the Reps to balance the budget and reform welfare. So Romney's flip flops don't bother me. He knows he has to be more conservative to wint the nomination and to win a general election in a center-right nation.
I don't believe he is to the left of McCain. McCain seemed to enjoy sticking a stick in the Reps' eye. He was contrary just to be contrary.
It is still early, Perry can make a comeback, Romney or Cain could falter, Santorum could emerge.
Cheer up my friend, We are going to win, repeal Obamacare, reduce taxes, and maybe reform the tax code. The tea party will rejuvenate the Reps.
Simon Templar| 10.18.11 @ 2:21PM
W, there is a big difference between changing your policy position because you sincerely have considered others opinions and the desires of the broad electorate and their wants from telling people what they want to hear to get elected without any intentions to ever enact these policies or ideas or public desires. Which do you think Romney is?
W| 10.18.11 @ 6:03PM
Simon, Al Adab
You have stated the two polar extremes. Most politicians fall somewhere in the middle. They want to get elected, they know where the votes are, and they will appeal to those voters consistent with their poliltics and past record. Some are better liars than other. Romney is smart, has a good business background, and has center-right political principles. He is a solid family man, no hint of scandal money or sex. All the other Reps , except Newt, can make the same claims. I believe Romney will make a good president, much better than Obama.
He would appoint more conservative judges than Obama. His administration would be more business friendly on regulations and taxes than Obama. And if he doesn't fulfil his promises he will be a one termer like Carter, Bush 1, and Obama.
We have had only two real conservative presidents in the past 100 years, Reagan and Coolidge. And Reagan did not abolish one agency or dept or cabinet. His big claim is winning the Cold War and cutting taxes, he did not shrink government.
The last pure conservative nominee was Goldwarter, a great man. But he got trounced, we got LBJ who gave us Vietnam and the Great Society nanny state. Would Rockefeller or Bill Scranton or George Romney have been as bad as LBJ? NO WAY.
If Ford would have won in 1976 instead of Carter we would not have the Dept of Education and Dept of Energy, both thanks to Carter.
Today we all want to abolish agencies and depts created primarily by LBJ and Carter, and Obama. These depts would not exist if the Republican had won, regardless of whether he was conservative or moderate or establisment. So it does matter whether we elect a Democrat or Republican.
The only pure conservative who want to abolish departments and shrink government is Ron Paul. But he has been marginalized because of his foreign policy vews on terrorrism and Israel, and is regularly attacked on this site.
Cain has no record so we do not know what he will do. He did support Romney in 2008. But everyone here loves him and is projecting Reagan into Cain. I like him based on his business background, his statements, his tax plan, and his good nature/personality which will attract voters.
Sorry for the long winded reply.
Maria | 10.18.11 @ 6:28PM
Ron Paul has the ONLY SANE, Constitutional foreign policy of all the candidates. He is the ONLY one who is not a neoconservative. His views aren't "libertarian" - they are classically Republican ideas of a humble foreign policy and fiscal responsibility and limited government. Who cares if this chintzy web site marginalizes him? Their opinion counts for NIL in the great scheme of things. Wasn't Huckabee or Romney predicted by the media to win the nomination last time, and McCain ended up winning - in spite of the polls and his unpopularity with the media. The electorate is more informed now and we are so close that we can taste freedom!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72XRhk0vgSc
Al Adab| 10.18.11 @ 3:42PM
How many though W have run right and governed left? Nixon comes to mind and Bush 41. Clinton did indeed move after 1994 and that was a great opportunity lost especially after 2000 when the GOP Congress went on a spending spree (9-11 not withstanding) of unprecedented proportion without a single presidential veto. Bush 43 let us down there as well. Sadly that seems to be the history of republicans.
Simon Templar| 10.18.11 @ 2:08PM
Al, I am afraid that a statist failure will not be apparent for many generations. It took 70 years before communism collasped in the soviet union and that was with the help of outside forces slamming on their walls.
If freedom and liberty and the founding principles die in this nation, I firmly believe that we will not see it again for another thousand years.
America is the historical exception not the rule. This is what we mean by it being exceptional. I sincerely believe that our founding fathers knew this all too well...particularly Franklin.
This is why we can not retreat, give up, nor accept failure. The Left has always been able to lie and revise history. Do not count on future generations to figure out anything.
It is the truth that they fear the most, exposure, and direct confrontation with it. This is the only thing that will kill the old witch and her spell.
The most important thing here is not accepting their narratives and their definitions of what is possible and not possible. This is the second key to unlocking the hold they have.
Al Adab| 10.18.11 @ 3:36PM
Simon:
That is my fear and my nightmare indeed. It could take another thousand years before people rediscover what we may be losing. That is why this election is so critical and why The Left ( and their OWS) storm troopers will stop at nothing to prevent a loss. It is also why The GOP, should it nominate some establishmentarian, may fail to preserve our liberties and indeed freedom for ages to come. It terrifies me and every day I ponder how I can ever apologize to my grandchildren.
Simon Templar| 10.18.11 @ 4:03PM
Then we need to stop at nothing to insure success.
This is what I like about Cain. He at least attempts to think out of the box, strays from the conventional thinking, and does not let others dictate to him what is possible and not possible.
He finds new ways to get to the goal and the next fork in the road.
Rove is a very smart man. Many times smart men end up being correct. One of their blind spots, however, is unwittingly supporting the very paradigms that they live within. They can not see beyond the very parameters they helped to build.
Mike D.| 10.18.11 @ 2:44PM
Good thought, but future generations only have to look at the Soviet Union and the rest of the Communist/Socialists states that have failed, including those in Europe and not at ours failing in the future. Thats the problem, nobody seems to learn anything from history. If people in this country are too stupid to see the millions that died in gulags and prisons or starved to death by collectivist regimes in the 20th century then they will never learn anything ever. I have always said, you can learn history the easy way or you can go through it and learn the hard way but either way YOU ARE GOING TO LEARN IT.
Simon Templar| 10.18.11 @ 3:54PM
Mike,
This is exactly what happens, people do not learn from history and repeat the same mistakes. There are a number of reasons for this but it is clear that each generation is responsible for fighting the good fight and retelling the history and the truth to the next. It is not enough to put it in a book and place it on a shelf. The forces against liberty and for benevolent statism will not cease to exist or just go away.
This is why the American Left's first course of business was taking the universities over at the start of the century, then on to the primary schools. They figured this out some time ago. It is not a matter of being stupid, it is a matter of controlling the narratives that people hear.
Mike D.| 10.18.11 @ 5:41PM
Yes, agree. You have to destroy and bury history so a fresh population of slaves can be sold on the paradise that is Communism and that is exactly what for the most part has been done and done effectively. Its a shame that this and future generations are going to have to learn it by death and destruction as the past ones did. Too many people, too lazy and too self destracted, and too indoctrinated. Thats the saddest part of this whole mess. Such a waste of resources, lives, blood and time on real life lessons of where this always ends its run..
datameister| 10.18.11 @ 5:49PM
Hm. You've got a point, there.
I'm going to stand by Herman Cain. Purely based on the character of the man and his history of success delivered in the positions he has held.
Principles DO matter, and it's time to take a stand in defense of them. This republic is at a crossroads; our future at stake.
Mark me down as a defender of traditional American values: Constitutionally Limited Government, Fiscal & Individual Responsibility, and Free Enterprise.
And if the "progressives" win, well then, I'm sure they will know where to find me and haul me away to their education centers where I will remain. Unbowed, unrepentant.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 6:18PM
Amen, sir. I am with you.
"Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?'
Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth?
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom - go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!"
- Samuel Adams, Speech at the State House, Philadelphia, August 1, 1776
Read more: http://www.revolutionary-war-a.....z1bArbvnEr
Dan| 10.18.11 @ 6:23PM
Margie is now posting as Samuel Adams.
Please don't support Cain. Your support will hurt him. Support Huntsman.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 6:29PM
Clint is now posting as Dan, a disgusting perverted liar.
Stuff it, butt wipe.
And then, beg for His mercy.
You're going to need it.
Dan| 10.18.11 @ 6:54PM
Mullah, not Clint. You have a lot of fans,not just Clint.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 7:07PM
Who do you think YOU are, PUNK?
Clint| 10.18.11 @ 7:46PM
Ha,Ha,Ha !
Paranoid RINO-CINO Head Case Margie Is Seeing Tea Party Clint Everywhere.
Boo !
I'm Over Here.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 10:58PM
As IF you don't post using many, many handles you lying sack of excrement.
Your Sin will find you out!
LOL.
Teflon93| 10.18.11 @ 10:51AM
We just say this playbook in 2008: the Left Wing Media props up the corpse of a GOP presidential candidate like the partiers at "Weekend at Bernie's", then after they propel them to the nomination on the notion that they're the only "electable" candidate and that they electrify independents and moderates the same media types crank out negative story after negative story as soon as they get the nomination. The RINOs, ever the media whores, follow suit. Remember Peggy Noonan, David Brooks, Colin Powell, and Christopher Buckley running to the polls to vote for Obama?
Never again.
Simon Templar| 10.18.11 @ 11:00AM
I remember Teflon93. You hit the nail on the head.
Simon Templar| 10.18.11 @ 10:59AM
Well, tonight should be the usual. Expect the circus. Cain will be attacked by the rest, including the conservative candidates too stupid that they can not realize they are shooting themselves in the head. Expect two second sound bites, cute one liners, and a program bereft of content. All the while this is going on, Romney will be up there combing his hair watching the show with amusement.
The Intermediary| 10.18.11 @ 11:12AM
Romney's our Hillary. That's good enough for me.
rob n| 10.19.11 @ 1:04PM
Sad.
Romney is BOs best chance at reelection. A Romney nomination nullifies the strongest arguments against BO.
You have either been brainwashed by the "electability" argument advanced by the Romney operatives or you are one of them.
Oldefarte| 10.18.11 @ 11:42AM
[Paul will become a player/contender with his newly released economic plan (that is if someone can duct-tape Clunt's ignorant mouth shut)]:
Ron Paul: Cut Cabinet and President's Salary Monday, October 17, 2011 05:15 PM
By: Jim Meyers Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul on Monday unveiled a radical new economic plan that would cut $1 trillion from the federal budget within a year, eliminate five cabinet-level departments — and even slash the president’s salary.Paul maintains that his plan will create a balanced federal budget by the third year of his presidency.The Texas congressman “is the only candidate with a plan to cut spending and truly balance the budget,” according to an executive summary of the plan. “This is the only plan that will deliver what America needs in these difficult times: Major regulatory relief, large spending cuts, sound monetary policy, and a balanced budget.”Paul would eliminate the Departments of Education, Commerce, Energy, Interior, and Housing and Urban Development. But some functions of the eliminated departments would be continued elsewhere in the federal bureaucracy.
His plan would cut spending by the Environmental Protection Agency by 30 percent, slash 40 percent from the Food and Drug Administration’s budget, and immediately freeze spending by numerous agencies at 2006 levels, the last time Republicans had complete control of the budget.Paul would also “take an ax to Pentagon funding for wars,” and foreign aid would be “zeroed out immediately,” Politico reports.Among other provisions of Paul’s plan:
Medicaid, food stamps, family support programs, and the children’s nutrition program are block-granted to the states.
Congressional pay and perks are slashed, and the president’s salary is reduced to $39,336 a year, which Paul maintains is about equal to the median personal income of the American worker. The president currently earns $400,000.
The federal workforce is reduced by 10 percent.
Young workers are allowed to opt out of Social Security. The top corporate income tax rate is cut from 35 percent to 15 percent.
All taxes on capital gains and dividends are eliminated, as well as the estate tax, and the Bush-era tax cuts are extended.
Obamacare is repealed, along with the Dodd-Frank financial regulatory reform law.
Paul also calls for an audit of the Federal Reserve, and legislation to strengthen the dollar.
Jesse Benton, Paul's campaign chairman and a co-author of the plan, said in a statement: "It's the only plan offered by a presidential candidate that actually balances the budget and begins to pay down the debt....'
Citizen Jerry| 10.18.11 @ 12:18PM
A lot of us are annoyed by the media and the RINO establishment in the GOP telling us who our candidate is going to be. They're doing their best to make sure Mr. Next-in-Line, Willard Romney, is our nominee, whether we like it or not.
You'd think that after Bob Dole and John McCain, people would realize that a pale pastel of a Democrat doesn't beat the real deal.
If they foist Romney on us and he loses, I hope there will be open revolt in the GOP -- and let the RINOS go the way of the Whigs.
loulou| 10.18.11 @ 12:40PM
Actually, Uber RINO, GHW Bush was also next-in-line.
The elite thinks we're going to vote for Romney because Obama is worse. No we're not.
loulou| 10.18.11 @ 12:39PM
Mitt's style is irritating.
He's all wound up. Talks too fast.
Absolutely no reflection or thought before he spits out rapid answers. All rehearsed and safely memorized in his data bank.
Phoney Mitt exhausts me. Can someone drug him so he doesn't seem like he's on speed?
Ted Keer | 10.18.11 @ 8:38PM
And here I thought he was already on something. The man needs a long rest on a distant island. Maybe he could go shack up with Nanny Bloomberg for a while.
W| 10.18.11 @ 1:25PM
There haven't been any votes cast by voters yet in any primary, therefore no candidate has earned the nomination.
Scott| 10.18.11 @ 2:23PM
I'm confused, why would the tea party be all for Cain? Cain backed TARP, which was the program that was really the kickoff to the tea party.
Besides this annoying fact, Cain has no chance in winning the nomination. He doesn't even have a real campaign set up....he's been out doing book tours and has no infastructure whatsoever, only about 2 months or so out from Iowa.
He'll fade as quickly as he rose. Perry is the only legtimate alternative to Romney, and his flame has already burned out.
I'd bet my house at this point that Romney will be the nominee.
martin j smith| 10.18.11 @ 2:36PM
I think the Establishment Republicans so fear the Tea Party that they would rather lose the election than have a Conservative win and be President. Romney is next in line for this crowd.
To qualify Romney has to explain all his policies that are not Conservative but bond him to socialist policies--Romney Care is a good example.
Next Romney would have to demonstrate that he
does not want to see our nation be in dcline.
I heard heard that Herman Cain in an interview actually said that Obama wants to see our economy take a dive. This aspect of the Socialist has to be talked about and explain the Republican Alternative. If not, then maybe Romney should join the Obama team.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 6:22PM
Right as usual, Martin.
The Establishment Repubs WANT Romney, and despise Cain.
They're Paul-bot in their manner.
George S| 10.18.11 @ 3:26PM
Wasn't Rudy's coronation about the same time four years ago?
Don't discount Perry so quickly. Religion plays a big role in the Iowa caucuses. Huckabee won in 2008 and the Methodist Perry will most likely take it next year (a Mormon doesn't stand a chance). Romney will take NH's open-to-all primary and the race will be South Carolina where Perry stands a good chance to defeat Cain coming off Iowa. If Perry takes SC, it may be over. If it's Cain, then the race may go on all summer.
Since the GOP loathes Perry and Cain, the race may not be decided until the convention as neither Perry or Cain will get broad Party support.
Who knows. A brokered convention. Maybe Sarah Palin will be waiting with a wink. Like you say: no one's won nothing yet.
Sahun| 10.18.11 @ 3:46PM
Romney has earned it. No one else has.
There is no Utopia out there. Quit looking, Romney is every bit as conservative as you are. Every bit!
You hold him to a hypocritical standard. Not one person in this race is any more conservative!!!!
What you think you want does not exist. Because it is Machiavellian. If anyone was as mercilessly conservative as you say you wanted they would have to ignore the will of real people and do what ever the heck they wanted!!!! That is totalitarianism, not conservatism.
This is America, not the Soviet Union. Pure ideology is wrong. Ideology must make way for reality!!!!
Get real, vote for Romney! He has earned it.
Sunnyr| 10.19.11 @ 4:15AM
"Earned it?" Pfft!
Please!
If anyone has "earned" anything it is Rick Perry who served his country for 5 years in the U S Air Force, right after college.
Perry 2012
Bob| 10.18.11 @ 3:49PM
Willard the rodent wins the nomination...what do Tea Bags do? Support him? Third Party? Disintegrate? How about a mudwresting match between Sarah and Michele as Michele suggested, winner flexes her biceps in triumph and becomes the nominee of third party. Palin/Bachmann-Trump ticket, go ahead and do it.
datameister| 10.18.11 @ 6:06PM
The priority focus of the Tea Party Movement is converting as many House and Senate seats in play in the 2012, 2014, 2016 cycles to proven fiscal conservative hands from progressive or rino grip.
The White House, while the "Center Ring" of this three-ring circus, is an act being managed by far more powerful forces, of which the TPM is only one, small, recent player.
Again, the main focus of the TPM are the other two rings of this circus: The House and Senate.
Even if Obamagedden gets re-elected, a solid conservative control of the other two rings will help mitigate any further damage that the Divider-In-Chief will make every attempt to instill of his "Fundamental Transformation".
Think of the TPM effort as, "Insurance".
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 6:23PM
I am liking your thoughts, kiddo.
Sunnyr| 10.19.11 @ 4:12AM
Four more years of Obama will be a national disaster of biblical proportions! He is continually going around Congress to implement his Big Government BS and will continue to do so. He MUST GO next year or this Republic is in deep trouble.
I will vote for Rick Perry, a man who has an 11 year record of achievement in the state of Texas. He can win the Nomination and he can beat Comrade Obozo!
This man is not the Great Debater but he is a REAL Leader. Go Rick!
Wall street| 10.18.11 @ 3:57PM
I am tired of articles like this that do nothing but help the left and demenstrate how little faith we have in people. Mitt Romney will and should be the nominee because he has the most experience and is by far the smartest in the field. Perry will get his head handed to him in a debate with Obama. they will also paint him as Bush texan, carreer republican crony... please people get your act together and realize we should be behind romney. he will do a good job. and stop taking for granted that the writer knows what he is talking about. i know alot about Romney and he is not what is being painted here. this guy might as well be Axelrods best freind... seriously poeple get it together and do not let obama stay in the white house...
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 4:12PM
Wally Street;
I thought you were so busy being occupied you wouldn't have time to read such articles!
Romney is not so smart; he's not conservative, his principles flow with the polls. When he gets in, even if the House and Senate repeal Obamacare, a President Romney will not have the stomach to face up the main stream media firestorm that would follow that bill to his desk. He'd veto it. He passed the same thing in Massachusetts.
Governor Perry seems to have trouble coming across to non-Texans and seems to be melting away in Florida.
You seem to have not noticed another candidate, Herman Cain. Is the Brightness on your TV too low? Have you not heard his strong conservative positions on Obamacare, illegal immigration, the hopeless tax code, government regulation?
You should listen to him speak.
And we have little faith in Mitt Romney for good reason. Not so sure why you have so much in him.
Sunnyr| 10.19.11 @ 4:06AM
I live in a state without a sales tax, Oregon. I do NOT want a National Sales Tax that a future DemocRAT administration could turn into another Big Government Cash Cow.
I will not be voting for Herman Cain.
Ronald Gunter| 10.18.11 @ 5:50PM
Truth is, no matter how difficult it is to acknowledge, there is NO ONE in the field who will beat Obama. NO ONE. Maybe Mr Cain. Certainly not the man Romney. None of them have the character to stand up and fight this Chicago thug with American backbone....maybe Mr. Cain. Gerald Ford, Bob Dole, John McCain, GHW Bush, Little Bush.........moderacy, my ass. Our Country withers on the vine.........now Romney!?!?
datameister| 10.18.11 @ 6:08PM
Not convinced.
Pat Johnson| 10.18.11 @ 4:44PM
No Republican I know will vote for R-Obama-ney
look on youtube for liberal mitt's greatest hits :)
We already have a great debater in the White House, how's that workin' out for ya?
We need someone with a track record for jobs, a flatter, fairer tax plan and a track record for solving problems. Perhaps if you want Oblamma out, look at someone who never lost an election, electability is key, and no way in heck would I vote for R-Obama-ney either, nor any of the thousands of people I know.
glenn| 10.18.11 @ 4:46PM
If Romney wins GOP nomination, he will be the first Republican that I will not vote for in 32 years in the General election
Pat Johnson| 10.18.11 @ 4:47PM
onservatives will never vote for Flippy-Floppy R-Obama-ney http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU
Jimbo Santino| 10.18.11 @ 5:13PM
I won't vote for him either. As big a disaster as King Barky is, the long term prospects for the naiton are better served by having him floundering in the WH for another 4 years than by replacing him with this RINO weasel. Will The Stupid Party finally wise up ? We'll see.....
Ronald Gunter| 10.18.11 @ 5:41PM
If the stinky ones succeed in ushering Romney along to the crest, then THAT will the point at which Mrs. Sarah Palin of Wasilla, Alaska will do her good deed.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 6:27PM
Let us hope so! But I am praying that she says sooner than that who she's for.
I am interested to find out... Perry or Cain?
Sunnyr| 10.19.11 @ 4:02AM
Sarah Palin was on Greta after the Debate and sang the praises of Newt Gingrich.
I may be old fashioned but I want my candidate to have a modicum of "character" and "integrity." I like Newt but he has more baggage than Grand Central Station and will never get the Nomination and even if he did he would be crucified by the liberal media during the General Election.
Rick Perry - 2012
Margie| 10.19.11 @ 2:36PM
She said Newt would mop he floor in a debae with Obummer.
She also admires Herman Cain, a man with a plan:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/122.....p=obinsite
martin j smith| 10.18.11 @ 5:44PM
Republican establishment would rather lose the election than see a Conservative President--2012 is the last election after that Third Party
Maria | 10.18.11 @ 6:12PM
RON PAUL, 2012!!
rybe| 10.18.11 @ 6:52PM
Your line of thought will give Obama another 4 years. You're an idiot.
Skep41| 10.18.11 @ 7:24PM
The RINOs had W and McCain. Enough! Letting these DC Republiclowns engineer another lib into the nomination would be a gift for Barak Obama and the DC bureaucracy. This country is in serious trouble because of excessive government and Romney might slow the rate of growth a little but he wouldnt make real cuts or change direction at all. He would be another ineffective Bush-like liberal implementing liberal policies and leaving conservatives to take the blame for their failure.
Manny| 10.18.11 @ 8:06PM
Romney's problem is hardly just a lack of "authenticity." 2 videos:
MITT ROMNEY'S DECEPTION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwwcAa6nHm4
"Liberal Mitt's Greatest Hits: What Romney Doesn't Want You to See"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU
As Governor, he actually promoted “gay marriage” — implementing it in violation of the Mass. Constitution, without legislative authorization. His Chief Legal Counsel carried out Mitt’s orders to enforce the new “law” (actually, just the Court opinion). In 2010, the Mass. GLBT lobby publicly thanked the Legal Counsel for his support of the gay marriage ruling. After all, Mitt had promised the Log Cabin Republicans during his 2002 campaign that he would not fight the expected Court ruling for gay marriage. And his Legal Counsel figured out how to keep that promise.
Romney facilitated $50 abortions under RomneyCare. The bill he signed included Planned Parenthood as a member of the “payment policy advisory board” setting coverage guidelines. Obviously, he could have vetoed Planned Parenthood’s inclusion. What did he expect PP would do on the advisory board? Insist on vitamin supplement coverage?
Gov. Romney fully supported Kevin Jennings’ “gay” propaganda in the schools, with his “Governor’s Commission on Gay & Lesbian Youth” and Dept. of Educ. “Safe Schools” programs. He issued proclamations celebrating GLBT “Youth Pride” events which brought adult GLBT activists together with young teens. In 2005, that event’s keynote speaker was a transgender communist activist (and editor of Workers’ World). He failed to uphold the parents’ rights law on sexuality issues in the schools.
His Dept. of Social Services gave the "Parents of the Year" award to a homosexual couple. His DSS also indoctrinated thousands of their social workers to support "GLBT youth" with the radical Natl Gay & Lesbian Task Force leading the training. His Dept. of Public Health worked with ManHunt.net and published a poster (in school nurses' offices, public transport, doctors' offices) pushing the concept of "transgender health" and condemning "transphobia".
It will be an unprecedented disaster for conservatives and the country if he becomes the nominee.
Ted Keer | 10.18.11 @ 8:31PM
You said it Mr. Goldstein. If Romney wins the nomination I am staying home election day. Better an open socialist than a pandering RINO.
The media's and the establishment's treatment of Cain has been shameful. Fox pushed the breathless headline that according to a "study" (they paid someone to add 9 plus 9?) people in some states would pay 18% in sales tax. As if we wouldn't all be paying the same national tax and the same state tax we have now?
I have never seen the liberals—and worse, the establishment—panic so much. You'd think we were going to do something insane. Like re-elect Ronald Reagan.
M Bauman| 10.18.11 @ 9:42PM
The Iowa Republican party wanted to include Representative Thaddeus McCotter in the
Ames debate and Fox News said no.
We shouldn't let the media pick our candidates.
Send uncommitted delegates to Tampa and have an open convention to select a qualified nominee.
AZ Rick| 10.18.11 @ 9:44PM
When it comes to attacking our liberty and our free enterprise system the left has two weapons of mass destruction - universal health care and global warming.
Don't know if those commenting here have seen the reports about Romney forcing power companies in Massachusetts to reduce carbon emissions because of his concerns about global warming. Here's a link to the story:
http://hotair.com/archives/201.....u-holdren/
So - Romney implemented Obamacare before Obama did and Romney implemented Obama's Global Warming plan which so far Obama has not been able to.
Seems to me that Romney has been more successful at being Obama than the Obamanation has.
Don't let the 'establishment' that gave us McCain last time give us Romney this time!
rich| 10.18.11 @ 9:52PM
the simple irrefutable fact is that Romney is the only Repub candidate with any chance of upseating Obama. All the other GOP candidates are simply too far right, too fringe. The OVERWHELMING majority of voters in America remain moderates, some slightly left of moderate, some slightly right. Rick Perry and/or Herman Cain would have NO CHANCE of being elected President, and mainstream Republicans KNOW THIS.
Soljerblue| 10.18.11 @ 11:10PM
with all due respect, that's Bravo Sierra
Sunnyr| 10.19.11 @ 3:58AM
Plain, ordinary old Cow Pucky!
Rick Perry is the only candidate who can win the Nomination and will win the Southern states, the Evangelicals, the Tea Party, the Hispanics and the Military. He will beat Obama like a rented mule, then eat his lunch!
Perry - 2012!
John| 10.18.11 @ 10:42PM
RomneyCare for MA, you are done Mitt!
Nite| 10.18.11 @ 10:50PM
I will stay home before I vote for Romney, a liberal flip flopping RINO. I don't agree with you on Ricky Perry. His Energy Plan is aggressive and would put a lot of people to work immediately. It is by far the best plan of the Republican candidates. TX is an energy state and he knows it well. I am interested in the rest of his plans. I believe they will be well thought out as well. Perry can beat Obama. Perry has a resume and Obama has a teleprompter and voter fraud.
Sunnyr| 10.19.11 @ 3:53AM
I, too, am sick of the GOP Establishment shoving Romney down our throats. I held my nose and voted for McCain but I won't do it again.. My candidate is Rick Perry!
Perry may not have been the Captain of the College Debating Team but he earned the REAL rank of Captain in the U S Air Force as a Pilot who flew tactical aircraft all around the globe. He served our country for 5 years after he finished college. What did Mitt Romney do when he was 22 ?
Rick Perry has taken a hit on illegal immigration which seems very unfair since he was given a Grade of A+ by Numbers USA for his excellent work at securing his 1200 mile long border with Mexico. He has an 11 year record of accomplishment to put up against Comrade Obozo's record or failure.
Go Rick Perry - 2012
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 11:01PM
If the Mormon cult member becomes the nominee, I'll vote for him.
Why have another four destructive years of a tyrant?
But we MUST get out and vote in the primaries, not listen to the polls concerning Romney being the "shoe-in".
Soljerblue| 10.18.11 @ 11:09PM
I'm sure someone else has already said this, but I'll say it anyway. The main reason Romney doesn't have the base is because he has the GOP elites. We -- the Tea Party and its grass roots supporters -- have learned that those elites are as much to blame for the state of this Nation as the Democrats and Liberals. Their candidate is definitely not OUR candidate, no matter how smooth, sincere, or plausible he sounds. The other reason for not giving Romney the nomination is because the media bed-wetters are pushing him. Two of the biggest reasons I can think of for nominating someone OTHER than John McRomney.
righthearted| 10.18.11 @ 11:43PM
I don't trust Mitt Romney at all...first off, he's from Massachusetts. I seem to recall a Senate candidate named Scott Brown a couple of years ago making some pretty strong promises and declarations about the seat belonging to "the people," and looking very conservative...at least for somebody from MA...that is, until he won...then he suddenly became a very different person when he took the office! It suddenly became HIS seat...and he became nearly as liberal as its previous inhabitant. And let's not forget other notorious MA legislators: Barney Frank, Teddy Kennedy, John Kerry, et al....MA is not exactly known for its conservative politicians...but we're supposed to believe Mitt's the exception?? Mr. Romney also has shown himself to be quite the little flipflopper on several important issues....but we're supposed to trust those big vapid eyes just because he says it's so???? Don't think so!!!
I've watched every GOP debate, and it's crystal clear that the sharpest knife in the GOP drawer and the one who's easily the most prepared to be president is Newt Gingrich....seeing him next to all the others, he looks like a college professor next to a bunch of high schoolers with their mouths hanging open in stunned reverence at his brilliant answers!!! He's not afraid to give credit to the others where credit is due, he doesn't waste his time coming up with cutesy cliches and loony lines like "turn 999 upside down...the devil's in the details...nyuk nyuk nyuk!!"...and he gives direct, concise, and right-on answers to THE FEW questions he's asked, while looking the questioner in the eye. He's not trying to start a fight with any other candidate, and he acts LIKE THE LEADER WE NEED!! He has the conservative record to back his words up (unlike the flipflopping Mitt Romney, who has taken whatever position he has needed to take to win whatever office he's running for at the time), he has proven that he's capable of leading and getting the job done, and while he's not perfect, he's the best of the available candidates and will make a great president!!
Margie| 10.19.11 @ 1:08AM
GREAT interview with Sarah Palin earlier:
"We want substance".
Herman Cain has it.
Newt does, too.
http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....ebate.html
Rich Birkett | 10.19.11 @ 3:14AM
Here's a list of issues Romney has played both sides (flip-flopped):
1. no new taxes
2. stimulus spending
3. auto bailouts
4. gun control
5. federal health care mandate
6. anthropogenic global warming
7. gays serving openly in military
8. same gender marriage
9. abortion
10. illegal immigrant amnesty
11. "timetable" for Iraq withdrawal
See: www.freedomactivist.net/person.....lardromney
Jake Davis| 10.19.11 @ 6:42AM
Oh baloney
If you can't vote for a guy like Romney if he legitimately wins the primary then you are a RINO
Mike Rogers | 10.19.11 @ 8:55AM
That visceral hatred for Romney runs deep and wide. I encounter it in a lot of places. There are small number of people that I respect, who either know Mitt personally, or have some direct reason to trust him, but there are far more who tell me that they won't vote for him under any circumstances.
The big danger - a combination of "nobody but Paul" and "anybody but Romney" stays home, and Obama gets back in.
NO, folks, I detest Romney, but not as much as I detest Obama's policies. Vote!
Anyhow, if we keep a sunny upbeat approach, we will naturally vote for Herman Cain, and Obama will be consigned to the ash heap of history - we'll dump his miserable butt out along with his miserable cigarette butts.
Owen K.| 10.19.11 @ 12:00PM
Romney is the guy that the "Clark Clifford Republicans" would love to see run. After all, he is one of them.
POST American| 10.24.11 @ 2:23AM
--------------------FINAL WORD-----------------------
'SUB--Mitt ROME--KNEE'
'-----SSS----US----stain----ABILITY'
'----AWE---stare----'IT'-----he'
---as power plants are shut down and
Globalist destroyed Japan is shot down---
"Understand, as the money system
(ie USURY) is being used to bring
FINAL world CON--solidation,
CENT-ralization, and YOU--genics
---you are about to see the
'ELECT---TRICK' in high action'."
-ALAN WATT
(fearless online coverage)
small oil press | 11.25.11 @ 2:58AM
Surely investors can't believe that buying when expected returns are low and selling when they're high is a good strategy.
HokenTaka| 12.9.11 @ 12:21PM
It is absolutely amazing how you right- wing fanatics can be so blinded by your outright hatred of Obama that you can actually dilute yourselves into thinking that everything he does is wrong and harmful to the country Dating Online
HokenTaka| 12.9.11 @ 2:22PM
It is absolutely amazing how you right- wing fanatics can be so blinded by your outright hatred of Obama that you can actually dilute yourselves into thinking that everything he does is wrong and harmful to the country Dating Online