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Another Perspective
Midnight in America
A conversation with Pat Buchanan about his new book, released today.
Patrick Buchanan may be a happy warrior in the mold of his hero Ronald Reagan, but in most of his recent books he has disputed that it is morning in America. Buchanan’s New York Times best-sellers Day of Reckoning, State of Emergency, and Death of the West have all painted portraits of decline. In the subtitle of his latest, Suicide of a Superpower, he asks, “Will America survive to 2025?”
“This book is published after ten years of war in Afghanistan, eight in Iraq, the worst recession and debt crisis America has faced since the 1930s, with the nation divided and seemingly everywhere in retreat,” the three-time presidential candidate and veteran conservative commentator writes in the introduction. “We have entered an era of austerity and retrenchment unlike any this generation has ever known.”
As dire as the country’s money problems are, Buchanan fears its moral problems are worse. “The faith dies, the culture dies, the civilization dies, and the people begin to die,” he says in a telephone interview. Can the party of American conservatism arrest and even reverse this decline?
“The Republican Party is a good party of good people with good values,” Buchanan says. “But under George W. Bush, it was a Great Society party, an interventionist party. That was bad for the party and bad for the country.” And the country’s changes are bad for the party.
“What happened in California is happening in America,” says Buchanan. He is referring to the largely immigration-driven demographic changes that have transformed the state that elected Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan into a Democratic bastion where John McCain was as competitive as Barry Goldwater. “When Texas goes the same way, it will become almost impossible for Republicans to win the presidency of the United States.”
But aren’t the anti-illegal immigration campaigns of Pete Wilson and Proposition 187 to blame for California’s Democratic turn? Surely Texas, governed by such compassionate Republicans as Rick Perry and George W. Bush rather than “heartless” ones like Buchanan and Wilson, will not go the same way.
Yet Perry, who was reelected in a landslide, won 38 percent of the Hispanic vote compared to 69 percent of Texas Anglos. In 2008, McCain carried just 31 percent of Hispanics nationally despite spending the better part of the previous decade as the Senate’s leading champion of an immigration amnesty.
“A majority of Hispanics are working class folks who are eligible for government support,” Buchanan reasons. “Why wouldn’t they vote for the party of government?” McCain Republicans, he says, favor “importing a huge number of people who are going to send us the way of the Whigs.”
Buchanan thinks some of his fellow Republicans are even more naive to expect that “a free trade agreement with Panama is going to save the country.” Pointing to $6.2 trillion in trade deficits and the loss of one-third U.S. manufacturing jobs in just the past decade, he argues that ideology has run up against experience.
“I was as big of a free trader and a Friedmanite as all the rest of these guys,” he continues. “But when your political philosophy is producing these kinds of results, you’ve got to take a second look at your philosophy.”
As the federal government teeters on the brink of insolvency, Democrats refuse to curb the social welfare state at home and Republicans are reluctant to contemplate retrenchment overseas. Buchanan says that spending must be cut, troops must come home, and rich allies must begin to defend themselves. He acknowledges that fiscal discipline would come at a political cost. “If Republicans get elected and do what must be done,” he predicts, “we’ll probably be out in 2014.”
The year that looms larger in Buchanan’s mind is 2041, when the Census Bureau projects, as Bill Clinton once put it, “there will be no majority race in the United States.” Buchanan describes this as “the end of white America.”
“God made all people good,” Buchanan explains. “But to be one nation, one people, you need some measure of national unity where you rise above those differences.” Unless held together by common customs, values, myths, and heroes, he worries about tribalism dividing Americans into “enclaves of hostility to one another” as has happened in other parts of the world where ethno-nationalism is on the rise. He maintains that we should slow down immigration and end government policies that treat Americans differently based on race.
So the country is divided, bankrupt, bogged down in war, and shedding jobs. Is there any hope? “I was similarly pessmistic during the Carter years,” Buchanan replies, citing the advances of the Soviet Union and Jimmy Carter’s malaise, but Reagan’s leadership and “the character of the American people” turned things around.
In any event, Buchanan says this will be his last tome of cultural pessimism. He’d rather think back to the good old days working for Richard Nixon.
About the Author
W. James Antle, III, author of the new book Devouring Freedom: Can Big Government Ever Be Stopped?, is editor of the Daily Caller News Foundation and a senior editor of The American Spectator. You can follow him on Twitter @jimantle.
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R. J. Stove| 10.18.11 @ 6:15AM
Good solid commentary. Real meat on the bones here.
Harry Callahan| 10.18.11 @ 9:32AM
".........end government policies that treat Americans differently based on race."
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"
W| 10.18.11 @ 12:53PM
Harry,
Did Bush 41 really contact you to run as his VP?
Occam's Tool| 10.18.11 @ 1:10PM
G-d did not make all people good. Thus the need for governments. It matters not the color of a man's skin, if he is devoted to the principles of liberty.
Buchanan is an ass.
darcy| 10.18.11 @ 3:10PM
I saw that quote, too, as utter foolishness. In fact, the false notion of man's goodness is at the heart of liberalism: man is good; institutions are at fault for man's woes. Bunk.
Isn't Buchanan a Catholic? Since when did the Catholic Church abandon the concept of Original Sin?
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 3:12PM
Mebbe it's not the Catholic Church that's confused, but it's Pat..
W| 10.18.11 @ 5:21PM
Darcy,
The heart of modern liberalism, or progressivism, is that the government can make people good, act good, and create heaven on earth. Liberals believe man is not good and needs the government to regulate every aspect of our lives. And if the government has to coerce you, or kill you as the commies did, then it is all for a good cause.
Just because one is Catholic or Methodist or Jewish doesn't mean you follow every doctrine of the religion.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 7:12PM
Catholicism teaches Salvation by works, a false doctrine.
Either one abides by it, or abandons it for the true Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Clint| 10.18.11 @ 7:23PM
Uh Oh !
American Spectator's Resident Lapsed Catholic/Anti-Catholic Maniac Apocalyptic Crank Lady Margie Is In The Building.
Catholics believe we are saved only by God's grace working in us.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 7:35PM
It isn't what your Religion teaches, sorry.
If it taught Salvation by Grace, it wouldn't have a Pope, claiming "Vicar of Christ" status.
Repent, and believe the Gospel of God. Mk. 1:1.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 7:44PM
Furthermore, you wouldn't be cursing out Bible believing Christians with your filthy mouth whenever they post Scripture here.
You've been trained well by the Papists.
Repent.
Occam's Tool| 10.18.11 @ 8:17PM
Well, Clint, then you are damned---not for being Catholic, but for being the type of animal that passes the sawing off of a 3 month old child's head with "I don't pay attention to the death of foreign nationals."
You sir, because you are Satanspawn, are damned. I care not what religion you profess. There are many righteous Catholics. You are damned because you are vermin.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 10:15PM
In fact, from the Vatican's website:
"The saving work of his holy and sanctifying humanity is the sacrament of salvation, which is revealed and active in the Church's sacraments."
They can't even capitalize His. Unless they mean the Pope or something.
But this is hogwash.
First of all, Jesus' humanity, His physical birth isn't how we are saved, it is because He suffered and died on the cross, and was risen from the dead.
Without His Resurrection, there would be no Salvation.
They fail to say that biblical reality and truth, but instead base Salvation on a "Sacrament", and that of His physical birth alone.
So, Salvation is NOT "something that is revealed in the Church's Sacraments.
This isn't even biblical teaching.
The Bible says this:
"For the Law was given through Moses; Grace and Truth came through Jesus Christ." Jn. 1:17.
The Word of God states that we are saved by HIS GRACE, not a "Sacrament" (no such thing in the in the Bible):
"For by Grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God--not because of works, lest any man should boast." Eph. 2:8 & 9.
Nick| 10.18.11 @ 11:43PM
Margie,
"The Word of God states that we are saved by HIS GRACE, not a "Sacrament" (no such thing in the in the Bible):"
The Word of God says that Baptism saves:
"Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ." - 1 Peter 3:21
The word sacrament comes from the Latin sacramentum, which means a sacred oath, or, a covenant in the Hebrew sense.
The Sacraments do save, as Saint Peter states plainly for all to see. Well, almost all.
God Bless!
Margie| 10.19.11 @ 12:12AM
Yes, as it says.. "as an appeal to God for a clear conscience."
That's what it says.
Sorry, but Eph. 2:8 & 9 says we are saved by Grace.
And baptism comes after repentance and belief in the Gospel, not before, as Catholicism teaches.
"Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out, that times of refreshing may come from the Presence of the Lord.." Acts 3:19.
John the Baptist preached a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins:
"John the baptizer appeared in the wilderness, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins." Mk. 1:4.
He said that when Jesus would come, He would preach a baptism of the Holy Spirit:
"And he preached, saying, "After me comes he who is mightier than I, the thong of whose sandals I am not worthy to stoop down and untie.
I have baptized you with water; but he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit." Mk. 1:8.
Now, why is it that Catholicism only teaches that baptism saves, and not the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
"Jesus answered and said to him, Truly,
truly, I say to you, If one is not generated
from above, he is not able to see the kingdom
of God.
Nicodemus said to Him, How is a man
able to be generated, being old? He is not
able to enter into his mother’s womb a second
time and be generated.
Jesus answered, Truly, truly, I say to
you, If one is not generated out of water
and Spirit, he is not able to enter into the
kingdom of God.
The thing having been generated out of
the flesh is flesh, and that having been generated
out of the Spirit is spirit." Jn. 3:3-6.
They wrongly misinterpret that, utterly ignoring the spiritual birth, and teach that Jesus meant physical baptism~ this is how they deceitfully get away with thusly saying that it is only through the Catholic church that Grace comes, by works, and not by the Grace of God.
Sad.
Margie| 10.19.11 @ 12:21AM
p.s. Nick:
Like a good Catholic (not Christian), you seem to what? Throw out being born spiritually, as Jesus says, along with the fact that His Word says we are saved by Grace?
Repent, and believe the GOSPEL OF GOD.
Beginning with Mk. 1:1.
"Everyone transgressing and not abiding
in the doctrine of Christ does not have God.
The one abiding in the doctrine of Christ,
this one has the Father and the Son.
If anyone comes to you and does not
bear this doctrine, do not receive him into
the house, and do not speak a greeting to
him.
For the one speaking a greeting shares
in his evil works." 2 Jn. 1:9-11.
sirbourbon| 10.19.11 @ 1:14PM
"Now, why is it that Catholicism only teaches that baptism saves, and not the Gospel of Jesus Christ?"
The answer is that the Church teaches us that we are saved through Christ; Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
Baptism washes away original sin. Baptism is the beginning of the saving cycle and that is why Catholics choose to baptize infants as soon as possible - to wash the original sins of Adam and Eve away. The innocents are now "saved" since the action of Baptizing in the name of the Father,Son and the Holy Ghost has washed away original sin.
We fall short of the glory of God but our path as Christians is to become holy despite our shortcomings. To become holy and to save our own souls is impossible without Jesus! Catholics therefore go to the Gospel and learn from the Master who explained how to save our soul and enter into the Kingdom of heaven- His saving Grace! He spurred the rich man who claimed he obeyed all the commandments but would not give away all his riches. He said it was easier for a camel to camel to jump through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. However, Jesus while hanging on the cross, saved the thief. The thief Dismas accepted his punishment but saw in Jesus the true living God. The thief asked of the Son of Man to remember him. Jesus promised him salvation.
Catholics believe in the sacrament of communion with God for the reasons explained in John VI:
“Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”
Nick| 10.19.11 @ 5:57PM
Margie,
"Yes, as it says.. 'as an appeal to God for a clear conscience.'"
How does that contradict the fact that baptism saves?
"Sorry, but Eph. 2:8 & 9 says we are saved by Grace."
Actually, Ephesians says, "by grace you are saved through faith: and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God." Grace is clearly meant here as a gift or favor from God. Faith also saves, and is a gift. Likewise, baptism is a grace that saves. These ideas are not contradictory.
"He said that when Jesus would come, He would preach a baptism of the Holy Spirit:"
John the Baptist said that Christ WILL baptize them with the Holy Spirit. All the faithful were required to be baptized with water and the Spirit.
"Now, why is it that Catholicism only teaches that baptism saves, and not the Gospel of Jesus Christ?"
The Catholic Church doesn't teach any such thing, and I have never claimed that it did. Confirmation, Penance, and most importantly, the Eucharist, are also needed for salvation.
Baptism is necessary for Christian salvation. Christ said that it was:
"And he said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned." - Mark 16:15-16
Saint Peter couldn't have been more clear about the effects of baptism:
"And Peter said to them, 'Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.'" - Acts 2:38
Saint Paul required baptism, even though he was chosen specifically by Christ to preach His Good News:
"So Anani'as departed and entered the house. And laying his hands on him he said, "Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus who appeared to you on the road by which you came, has sent me that you may regain your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit.' And immediately something like scales fell from his eyes and he regained his sight. Then he rose and was baptized [...]." - Acts 9:17-18
"And he said, `The God of our fathers appointed you to know his will, to see the Just One and to hear a voice from his mouth; for you will be a witness for him to all men of what you have seen and heard. And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name.'" Acts 22:14-16
Even the Ethiopian eunuch, after Saint Philip preached the Gospel of Christ to him, knew that he must be baptized:
"Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning with this scripture he told him the good news of Jesus. And as they went along the road they came to some water, and the eunuch said, 'See, here is water! What is to prevent my being baptized?' And he commanded the chariot to stop, and they both went down into the water, Philip and the eunuch, and he baptized him." Acts 8:35-38
Paul also likens baptism to Christ's death on the Cross. Didn't Christ's death save us?
"Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life." - Romans 6:3-4
Paul shows that baptism was promised by God, when he echoes the prophecy of Ezekiel:
"Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the sanctuary by the blood of Jesus, by the new and living way which he opened for us through the curtain, that is, through his flesh, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, with our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water." Hebrews 10:19-22
"I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols I will cleanse you. A new heart I will give you, and a new spirit I will put within you; and I will take out of your flesh the heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to observe my ordinances." Ezekiel 36:25-27
I can provide many more examples, from the Sacred Scriptures, if you would like?
God Bless!
Dan| 10.18.11 @ 7:57PM
Mullah Alert! The Bigot Margie tries to inject her bigotry.Ignore her.
Dan| 10.18.11 @ 8:02PM
Margie is trained to attack at the mere mention of the word Catholic or religion. She wants attention and has a persecution complex.
But Margie is not a Christian because she doesn't believe in the divinity of Jesus and that Jesus is God.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 9:03PM
Dan,
Is a Bigot against the Word of God, his Papist teachers have trained him well to attack Bible believing Christians.
Catholics like him do not believe that anyone who rejects Popery can be Christian.
Repent, liar, and believe the TRUE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST.
He is LORD.
""He who made all men hath made the truths necessary to human happiness obvious to all. Our forefathers threw off the yoke of Popery in religion; for you is reserved the honor of leveling the Popery of politics. They opened the Bible to all, and maintained the capacity of every man to judge for himself in religion."
- Samuel Adams, Speech at the State House, Philadelphia, August 1, 1776
Read more: http://www.revolutionary-war-a.....z1bBXMBya4
Dan| 10.18.11 @ 9:19PM
Mullah,
One more time. I have no problem with Christians and nobody is attacking Christians. You are criticized only because you are a foul mouthed bigot who constantly attacks Catholic, Mormons, and all religions except your own cult.
You aren't a Christian because you don't believe in the divinity of Jesus and that Jesus is God. So stop passing yourself as a Christian with your weird persecution complex. You are criticized not Christians. Christians are fine people, you are a bigot.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 10:20PM
Foul mouthed? I see. So... you're constant harping and blatant lying, not to mention the use of the word Bigot, because I stand on Scripture, doesn't qualify for foul mouthed?
Hmm?
You are absolutely disgusting, liar.
"A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who utters lies will not escape." Prov. 19:5.
You, with your constant attacking of my person is not going to shut me up from speaking from Scripture, defending my faith, or Calling an Ace an Ace.
You are a lying, filthy Troll.
Repent, and believe the Gospel of God, PUNK.
Dan| 10.18.11 @ 11:07PM
Mullah
You don't believe in the divinity of Jesus and you don't believe Jesus is God.
You are not a Christian,
You are defending only you own little cult.
Nobody cares what you think.
You constantly start fights . You have a persecution complex, thinking people want to shut you up becauase of your "faith." Not true, you are just a bigot.
Buzz off, Punkette.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 11:28PM
You're one lousy broken record, liar.
"Nobody"
"people want to shut me up"
"Bigot"
"Punkette"
Oooh, nice Catholic.
Seems you're a cult of one, sweetheart.
I take my stand on the Bible. They REALLY DO contain the Words of God, unlike your Religious cult's catechism.
Repent, and believe the Gospel of God.
Beginning with Mark 1:1.
Dannyboy| 10.19.11 @ 6:16PM
Mullah,
You take a stand on a bible prepared by Martin Luther, an anti semite, and you don't believe in the divinity of Jesus, therefore you have created your own cult.
jd| 10.19.11 @ 3:09PM
Hey, you bigoted bytch, didn't you LIE and say you were leaving AS? Take your anti-Catholicism rants elsewhere. People are S-I-C-K . O-F. Y-O-U.
sirbourbon| 10.20.11 @ 1:43AM
No, it does not. Tthe Catholic Church ( Universal church) teaches that "salvation" is through the Son of God-Jesus. Works are important in putting that faith into practice.
Giovanni di Bernardone put his faith into action (works) by giving all of his possessions to the poor. Giovanni was born into a rich family and enjoyed the life of luxory but he had a conversion and despite his father's objections he gave up a life of comfort and took up the life of a pauper. This young man founded an order of monks and was canonized a saint. Saint Francis put his faith to good works .
"Faith without works is dead" James 2:14
New International Version (NIV)
" What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, 'Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,' but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
But someone will say, 'You have faith; I have deeds.'”
" Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
"You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless. Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. And the scripture was fulfilled that says, 'Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,' and he was called God’s friend. You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.
"In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead."
Seek| 10.18.11 @ 6:10PM
Race is far more than "skin color." It is about behavior and consciousness.
Blacks, like it or not, do not regard themselves as citizens of America. They regard themselves instead as citizens of a country-within-a-country called "Black America," an entity that overlaps with the larger America only fitfully. Good for Pat Buchanan and other race realists for pointing this out.
Should Have Impeached| 10.18.11 @ 7:13PM
Funny, I didn’t read it that way…. I took it in the tribal sense, i.e., that no tribe is “bad” in relation to another, but the tendency to seek self interest based on “tribe” is not the way to make a cohesive America. I think that’s supported by his following statement where he says: "But to be one nation, one people, you need some measure of national unity where you rise above those differences." His wording was imprecise but maybe it takes an imprecise thinker like me to get what he said. :)
Clint| 10.18.11 @ 8:08PM
Pat Buchanan Is An American patriot.
Tol Job Is A Screwball Israel Firster Neo-Chikenhawk Fanatic Traitor Bastard.
Occam's Tool| 10.18.11 @ 8:19PM
Pat Buchanan is a racist scumbag. You, Clint, would engage in bestiality if Ron Paul told you too. You are a traitor to your country, and a child killer supporter. You should be banned from school areas.
Occam's Tool| 10.18.11 @ 8:52PM
"Tool Job is a screwball Israel Firster Neo- Chickenhawk (WTF does neo chickenhawk mean?) Fanatic (agree) Traitor (no, and I've lost a $150K a year job over calling in a man to the FBI because he was working with terrorists, so up yours, Clint) Bastard (mommy and daddy married August 26th 1961 and I was born August 3rd 1962---do the math---not all of us had daddies who engaged in carnal knowledge with canines to produce us).
Occam's Tool| 10.18.11 @ 8:53PM
As for Israel Firster--- I live here for a very good reason and not there. This is my home as it is yours. Did you ever serve or volunteer to do so, Clint? When?
Occam's Tool| 10.18.11 @ 8:54PM
Can't argue with the screwball---I respond to you, Clint. Only a fool would talk to a retarded nematode, so I guess I'm a fool.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 10:40PM
That's it~ respond. No answering according to their questioning.. which they really and truly have absolutely NO interest in a response based in reality.
Jacobite| 10.18.11 @ 4:37PM
Remember when an American-American President reminded us that a house divided against itself cannot stand?
Phil DeGraves| 10.19.11 @ 10:59AM
In the subtitle of his latest, Suicide of a Superpower, he asks, "Will America survive to 2025?"
America can survive, but to do so the Democrat party as it exists today must be destroyed.
POST American| 10.18.11 @ 6:30AM
----'PAT-trick BEE-YOU--cannon' has been
doing the CNP Rockefeller front op number
for decades.
He's there to model 'safe' 'populist' indignation
while ignoring his own role an an eager helpmate
during the KEY 'Nick's ON'/MAO Globalist
summit of 1972.
He, to this day, is forever minimizing and
air brushing this --along with such trifling matters
as the REAL legacy of the RED Chinese
Halocaust's extermination of 90 MILLION
(-latest scholarly est.) --or the 'on the go',
wholly unspeakable, brazenly
genocidal EUGENICS agendas of his
CNP sponsor, David Rockefeller ----.
He even waves the population bomb flag
while ignoring the reality that fertility across
the western world is being systematically
destroyed---.
-----------AND all this while claiming to be
some kind of 'Catholic'.
------------UNSPEAKABLE CON-ARTIST-----------
Tim the Enchanter| 10.18.11 @ 10:32AM
Huh?
Boar Hunter| 10.18.11 @ 11:26AM
Resident kook, just ignore him. I read about three of his posts with the same reaction.
Teaghan| 10.18.11 @ 12:03PM
Some of his posts make sense, this one lost me.
Otso Odge| 10.18.11 @ 1:21PM
It actually is kind of interesting, but leaves much to the imagination.
gsr| 10.18.11 @ 6:41AM
Buchanan, Tancredo and Peter Brimelow (VDare.com), Lawrence Auster (amnation.com/vfr/) have all been saying this for years and they are, sad to say, essentially right.
Immigration is the real reason why white, English speaking America is dying. The liberal/progressives/Marxists and the neo-cons (really liberals too) both have championed high immigration, legal and illegal. Therefore we are on the verge of becoming a 3rd world country, Balkanized beyond belief, with a huge, central government passing out jobs, healthcare, pensions, etc to the dependent, semi-literate masses.
Thank you open border lovers......this means you neo-cons!
btims86| 10.18.11 @ 6:45AM
The brutal truth is race/ethnicity do matter when it comes to one's political beliefs. Consider: Over 90% of blacks vote Democrat. Roughly 75% of Latinos vote Democrat. About 80% of Arab/Muslim/Jihadi vote Democrat. About 65% of Asians vote Democrat.
Over the past 30-40 years, three out of four immigrants to our country are either Latino, Asian or Arab/Muslim/Jihadi. How do you think they will vote. High immigration is a function of big government.
Buh-bye GOP........
RND| 10.18.11 @ 11:53AM
Correct. (one can dispute your percentages for voting a bit, but the point is well taken)
This is why we will continue to see in excess of 1 million new arrivals on US American soil every year. The entrenched liberals who hold all the postions in ICE (INS) won't change a thing, they'll keep 'em coming.
And -- yes, 85% of these new arrivals are in the pipeline toward citizenship.
And, no, they are not bright, super intelligent, core values, hardworking. A person with core values is not looking for handouts. THESE people are.
Biggest voter registration drive anywhere and everyone wants to act like it is not happening.
So it is lose - lose.
1. Loss -- no exactly the type of people with the Founder's pioneer spirit as their underlying family ethic.
2. Loss -- adults who will tend to register Democrat and vote Democrat.
Peppermint Tea| 10.18.11 @ 12:00PM
BUT...
Conservative Americans (blue states) have more children. If we can stop the commie education, conservatism will not fall behind. (Besides, even some immigrants have to figure out that socialism doesn't work.)
Seek| 10.18.11 @ 6:12PM
Conservative refers to Red States. In any event, children do not necessarily follow the paths of the parents.
TrueBlue| 10.18.11 @ 1:46PM
It helps that the Democrat party is constantly pushing for more rights beyond what white people get. The entire "Equal Opportunity" junk needs to be trashed. It's not equal opportunity if certain people have a better chance to get a job or college acceptance because of race rather than their actual qualifications.
Clint| 10.18.11 @ 6:53AM
The Deconstructionists have attempted to tear down America's Traditions, Culture, Affiliations & Free Market.
Doctor Right| 10.18.11 @ 9:34AM
Ron Paul = 5%
Ron Paul LOSES to Obama in latest poll.
Herman Cain BEATS Obama in latest poll.
http://www.rasmussenreports.co.....l_matchups
Tim the Enchanter| 10.18.11 @ 10:33AM
Ooh boy. I can tell without having to scroll down any further that a flame war is about to erupt.
C'mon, guys- play nice.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 7:13PM
Nice doesn't win wars OR elections!
Clint| 10.18.11 @ 7:26PM
Uh Oh !
The Zany Crazed Israel Firster RINO-CINO Maniac Apocalyptic Crank Lady Margie Gnawed Her Way Out Of Her StraitJacket.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 7:32PM
Aww, what's a matter, PUNK?
Bug up your arse?
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 7:33PM
Or did you lose your Ron Paul footie pajamas?
LOL!
Occam's Tool| 10.18.11 @ 8:21PM
Margie, it's much worse than that, dear:
His favorite jihadi john told him that he's impotent. Clint is sexually frustrated now. he planned on marrying him.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 9:05PM
He's a SICK bastard.
jd| 10.19.11 @ 3:16PM
And your rants against any and everybody who does not agree with YOUR interpretations of faith, will not win any hearts...or souls. And do me and everybody else a favor and stop citing Biblical verses from your online Bible.
Teaghan| 10.18.11 @ 12:05PM
Moochelle obama said it. "We need to change our traditions, our history and how we think"
Seems we're well on our way there.
Harry Hunter| 10.18.11 @ 7:13AM
Buchanan is right about some things. Unfortunately he is crazy-wrong about others and discredits the American conservative movement. According to Buchanan, the Second World War was Poland's fault for not giving Danzig to Hitler. Although he no longer edits The American Conservative he still seems to have some editorial influence on it, and cannot avoid all responsibility for things like a tinfoil-in-the-beanie article it published suggesting the JOOS had advance knowledge of 9/11. TAC has largely tuned into another a mouth-piece for the left, obsessed with attacking Israel. It campaigned against McCain in the Presidential elections, which equates with campaigning for Obama. I haven't kept the issue concerned, but I am pretty sure it ridiculed McCain's experiences as a PoW torture victim. True conservatives should avoid him.
Nancy in NC| 10.18.11 @ 7:29AM
He's crazy right this time.
How can anyone see anything good coming down the path to serfdom with more takers than makers in this country?
I think it's crazy ironic that those mucking forons occupying wall st talk about greed when their main agenda is their own greed.
I saw Buchanan on Hannity last night and couldn't find much fault with his thinking about the future of this country. Almost all the takers vote the D. As that number increases, how could it not be the end of GOP?
rn| 10.18.11 @ 12:03PM
Nancy, I am not disagreeing with you.
But isn't Buchanan's book about the umpteenth on this very same subject in just the last 3 years? (Maybe you did not mean to, but you use the phrase "serfdom" as in the Brit's Daniel Hanna's "Road to Serfdom" as just one example)
I have to wonder about all these guys, these pro round-the-clock pundits willing to take any media slot, anytime, anywhere.
Buchanan might just be saying some of this because the only ones buying political books are Tea Party-like folk. Maybe?
Buchanan is aged, well over the hill, no longer telegenic or swift off the mark. How else is he to make money?
I find most all of these people disengenuous.
aware| 10.18.11 @ 4:30PM
"...Brit's Daniel Hanna's "Road to Serfdom"..."
Huh? Hanna may have READ "Road to Serfdom", maybe, but he sure didn't write it.
Who is it being "disengenuous" again?
Occam's Tool| 10.18.11 @ 8:22PM
The problem is, Buchanan ignores sharia as a problem, and wishes to destroy our allies.
sirbourbon| 10.18.11 @ 1:01PM
".... had advance knowledge of 9/11. " ---Harry Hunter
Gosh, who in America would have an inkling that bombing people in Iraq, enforcing no fly zones and a military presence in the middle east would have any consequences? Well, duh, Mr.Hunter: bombs, NATO Planes, and foreign soldiers, those sorts of things couldn't possibly be the cause of irritation to people in the middle east?
Only if you believe the fairy tales told to you by the stups behind the mic on neo con radio and Fox! But those sorts of theories certainly don't conform to the real world. The CIA calls it "blowback." But they are only intelligence agents and what do they know compared to Bill- O?
You keep listening to the brilliant scholars like Shawn Hannity and you'll only get the fairy tale version of what's behind the news.
Why not read what FBI field agents and the US Army counter intertelligence unit from project Able Danger have to say about it? These men and women actually tracked al-Qaeda operatives all across the globe. Seems to me that if the Philippine government could catch an al-Qaeda agent or two and extract the name of the 9-11 plot that you would have more faith in FBI agents than in big mouth talk show hosts! Bojinka!
http://www.thenewamerican.com/.....crime/2707
TrueBlue| 10.18.11 @ 1:51PM
The fact that Iran declared war on us in 1979 and is the largest state sponsor of terrorism certainly had nothing to do with it.
sirbourbon| 10.18.11 @ 10:29PM
And the fact that we [read Carter and the State Department] stabbed the Shah of Iran in the back had everything to do with it!
We traded the best friend in the middle east for an America- hating Ayatolla Khomenini whose regime took American hostages that the US government ended up negotiating for their release. All this due to our meddling in affairs we have no business being involved in!
Get it? Of course you don'tt's clear you are on Hannity default since you can't even grasp the fact that people don't like to get bombed and when they lose their family members to a bomb dropped by a NATO plane they respond irrationally by getting people to become suicide bombers. The Central Intelligence Agency calls it "blowback." In the US congress responds to this blowback (OKC, WTC I, 9-11 et al) by taking away our rights under the Bill of Rights.
The neos cheer each strike at the Constitution with laws like the Patriotic Act, creation of the DHS, military commissions. They cheer the war hawks who are busily wasting trillions in militarism which is making America far more unsafe and insecure than before 9-11.
Foxfier | 10.19.11 @ 1:36PM
Evidence you've got nothin':
the old "you're brainwashed by FOX!" stupidity. Son of the "you're just repeating what Limbaugh" one.
Why not cut out the middleman and call him a "dittohead"?
JR| 10.24.11 @ 12:56PM
I am so sick of some of you who cry about how these Muslims have a right to be mad at us for our foreign policy. To hell with them. If they dont like it they can kiss my ass. They only respect strength and playing nice with them will only empower them try and rule the world. Ya'll need to stop being such pu**ies and realize that the world is a dangerous place and someone need to exert a little control. The UN sure as hell aint gonna do it. Get your heads out of the sand.
os| 10.18.11 @ 5:20PM
Discredits the American conservative movement? It's people like you -- people who believe that the American conservative movement began with the election of George W. Bush -- who discredit great American conservatives like Robert Taft and Russell Kirk. Thank God for PJB and TAC for guarding the legacy of the old Right.
Timothy L. Pennell| 10.18.11 @ 7:35AM
Sooooooooo what is it, about this book, that's so "Controversial"?
Any Idiot can see that it's over. White Liberals have finally gotten their way. Their kids, will soon be in the Minority. Anglo Saxon Values, Western Values, will disappear. The Liberals will reign, Supreme.
This is what the Immigration Act of 1965 was all about. Democrats knew, that they were losing ground. People from Europe and Asia, were Industrious, Proud, and Hard Working INDIVIDUALS. They believed in the Judeo Christian work ethic. They were often TOO PROUD, to accept a handout. What's a Democrat to do?
The Kennedy Brothers: The Fat Drunk, who has NO BUSINESS being buried at Arlington, and his brother, Bobby, pushed for SHUTTING DOWN Immigration from Europe. They wanted to get new immigrants from Africa, South America, and the Islands. They wanted an influx of "New Americans". Americans with NONE of our Founding Values. No work ethic. No Judeo Christian Values. No sense of individualism. They came from nothing, and the Democrats offered them plenty. Thus was born: The Voting Bloc. The Dependent Class.
At first, this was a Gift from whatever Foul Creature, it is, that Democrats worship, but, then, something terrible happened. A lot of these new Immigrants began assimilating. They realized that here, in America, you could build a life for yourself, and a family, if you chose to do so. America, truly was, the Land of Opportunity.
Trust me, it wasn't a majority, but, it was enough, to make the Democrats look elsewhere for people to Sell their Souls, for a few pieces of Silver, and some Food Stamps.
So, they set out for South of the Border. They started their Bi-Lingual garbage. They had Gov't Documents printed in Spanish. Multiculturalism was the Order of the day. Why be a Melting Pot, when you can be a Mosaic? Who needs English, Mom, and Apple Pie? When you can have TELEMUNDO?
The Citizenship Test, can be taken in Spanish, now. You can drive a car, without being able to READ the Road Signs. There are some towns, down South, where EVERYTHING is in Spanish. Coming soon, to a City Borough near you.
They don't want to be Americans. They just want....America.
The Border is not being closed? The Fence isn't being Built? Our Immigration Laws aren't being enforced. We even have a President, who is trying to SUE, in Federal Court, States that are trying to Enforce the Immigration Laws, that are already ON THE BOOKS, because, our Federal Government, REFUSES to.
Sounds like "SUICIDE" to me.
Harry Hunter| 10.18.11 @ 7:52AM
Am I the only lawyer who reads TAS, or the only person who knows what a Writ of Mandamus is? It is a process by which an official can be FORCED to do his duty. Why not take one out against Obama to force him to enforce the immigration laws?
Moe Blotz| 10.18.11 @ 8:09AM
Oy Harry, you are not the only bloke with such legal knowledge reading The American Spectator.(I am not one) If citizens can initiate a Writ of Mandamus, you are the one to do it. If our congressmen are the only ones who can do so, I will contact mine. A Writ of Mandamus would be ignored by the President along with the duties he does not like.
Harry Hunter| 10.18.11 @ 10:13AM
I would, but I'm not an American.
Teaghan| 10.18.11 @ 12:12PM
Then guide someone to do it.
Teaghan| 10.18.11 @ 12:12PM
They would ignore it just like they are ignoring the subpoeneas for Eric Holders emails and documents. They will give what they want, when they want, redactions and all.
Moe Blotz| 10.18.11 @ 4:08PM
If Writ of Mandamus would do any good, I am sure F. Lee Levin would have filed by now.
Tim the Enchanter| 10.18.11 @ 10:40AM
Bag limit on lawyers is 2 per day, 20 per season.
Tiddly| 10.18.11 @ 3:12PM
I had Latin in high school. Mandamus means "we demand," doesn't it?
I always wondered why the simplest words and phrases in American law always have to be in Latin. Maybe it sounds more profound (supposedly) if you can't understand it?
Anyway, I'm all for confronting Obummer and saying "We demand you obey the Constitution," in any language he understands, but of course he would only sneer.
Occam's Tool| 10.18.11 @ 8:30PM
Dear Tiddly,
much of European law derives from Byzantine and Roman codes. Thus Greek and Latin, I suppose, although STUART KOEHL can correct me and I can learn (hint, hint).
Interestingly, of the 50 states, Louisiana has its legal system most closely modelled on the Byzantine one. Explains a lot.
Shamus| 10.18.11 @ 7:06PM
It's not really possible to get a court to order Obama to do his duty. Either he will or he won't, and no judge will be responsible for his actions, though voters may take a dim view.
Occam's Tool| 10.18.11 @ 8:28PM
Harry,
he says he is. He's a tricky bastard.
Let me give you a for instance from my own experience. Say I'm reviewing with you whether you want a full attempt to save your life should you go into cardiac arrest (this procedure is called a "code."). I can tell you that you are young and worth saving and that we should try, or I can tell you that very few survivors of codes leave the hospital alive, and that a code will break your ribs, burn you, and cause a great deal of pain. In both cases I am fulfilling my obligation to advise you completely truthfully.
But they are dramatically different things. Unfortunately, Bush and Obama (and McCain, before he flipped) are for a loose border for reasons that make no sense. I have a feeling that he has anticipated Mandamus, as I would have done my duty in either case above.
scythe| 10.18.11 @ 8:32AM
Bravo! Well said.
Bob Grant| 10.18.11 @ 8:40AM
Summation - Great! (I agree with everything you wrote)
Use of punctuation - eh, not so great.
Timothy L. Pennell| 10.18.11 @ 8:42AM
You want everything.
Bob Grant| 10.18.11 @ 8:50AM
Sorry,
I thought the content was excellent but I must admit it was a little painful getting though the pauses due to the excessive number of commas.
I'm by no means an expert on the subject but I can see how someone would prematurely give up on this otherwise great comment because of it.
Timothy L. Pennell| 10.18.11 @ 9:27AM
I know. It's like the Seinfeld episode with the Exclamation Marks. Someone complained that I didn't have enough punctuations. So, I sprinkle them over the CONTENT, to keep the "Purists" happy. But, you have brought me back to the realization that, you can't please everybody (Double Exclamation Mark)
Mimi| 10.18.11 @ 9:35AM
Good Job Tim....again, you are right on the money!!
THKrupp| 10.18.11 @ 9:59AM
I think you need to verify some of your statements. In order to get citizenship you must be able to read, write and speak basic English unless you are over 50 years of age and have lived in the US for over 20 years. You still have to be able to pass the civics test.
Timothy L. Pennell| 10.18.11 @ 10:17AM
Obviously, you're not from around these parts.
Where ya been? In a TIME CAPSULE?
None of that stuff happens anymore.
By the way. Welcome to Earth. I guess you didn't realize that our Radio Transmissions take YEARS to reach your planet.
Idiot.
THKrupp| 10.18.11 @ 10:22AM
I just looked on the Governments website for requirements for US Citizenship. Im hardly an idiot since you obviously havent even read the requirements. I dont think you are an idiot I think you are ignorant.
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 11:09AM
Yeah but,
THK, you all need to borrow some commas and such from TLP-Bob Grant thinks TLP has some extras.
Could we focus on saving our danged country? The grammarian wars can take place after the end of the revolution, please.
THKrupp| 10.18.11 @ 11:54AM
I agree, I wasnt commenting on his puncuation. Mine isnt very good either. I was commenting on some of his facts. It does us no good to spout things that are untrue.
rn| 10.18.11 @ 12:15PM
THKrupp, I meet "new Americans" every year either at their new citizen ceremony or soon after. And, yes, I usually have some interaction with them in the final year or two prior to the official ceremony for citizenship.
Their English language capabilities are severely lacking.
Sure, they can handle something like ordering take out okay. Anyone can. But they lack comprehension when it comes to following a verbal speech, complicated conversation, or even relatively simple applications/forms.
Most all do their "inprocessing" (like the driver's license) in their native language when given the choice.
This is a problem for us. They do not read the local newspapers for themselves. They cannot make it through a news journal.
So who or what is informing them?
THKrupp| 10.18.11 @ 12:43PM
Yeah kinda like the Amish...ever talked to one of them? Cant understand a word they say. The requirements are that they understand simple English. Yes, they can do it in their native tounge. They still have to read write and speak simple english. Im sure that is true of most people who have come to the USA regardless of the time period.
Occam's Tool| 10.18.11 @ 8:34PM
Yes, Mr. Krupp, but we are dealing with DEMOCRATIC PRECINCT CAPTAINS. Might I suggest that you read Mike Royko's Boss and then we can revisit the subject, sir.
You see, Mr Krupp, I am assuming you are not a LIBERAL TROLL. Your reading of the relatively slim volume of Royko's and your enlightenment following will let us know.
By the way, nice comments, Tim. Well done.
Larry| 10.18.11 @ 7:38AM
I love Pat Buchanan's books and commentaries. I really hate reading them and hearing him speak though because he's right! And what he says is sad and depressing. When Comrade Golfer took office this once great country was at about the middle of the end. We're now really close to the end of the end. Sometime in the next 10 years we'll be officially 3rd world status. This has been happening for at least the last 45 years and we now see the results of socialism, liberalism, progressive thought, political correctness. We are a country with no pride. We are a country with unwarranted guilt and that guilt to a large extent has dictated policies that have truly f'd us up.
btims86| 10.18.11 @ 8:04AM
I like your term "unwarranted guilt". Very true. Sure, we've made mistakes, like 100% of all other nations and people make, everyday, from the beginning of time. But we have much to be proud about when it comes to our history and the non-stop, progressive, Cultural Marxism, the 24/7 criticism of our history, our traditions, etc. has had it's effect. They have won. It is nearly over.
I see no way out of this world socialism about to emerge.
Larry| 10.18.11 @ 8:48AM
Heck, there are libscums today who are still feeling guilty because of slavery in this country. And likewise, there are black people who still feel entitled to reparations because of it. We're a sick, sick society.
Teaghan| 10.18.11 @ 12:15PM
I wonder if they teach in the government schools that it was their own people who sold their ancestors into slavery.
rendite| 10.18.11 @ 12:21PM
To include ship captains, first mates, and crew. And that this still occurs today -- in Africa. Add to this the present day black on black crime, violence and outright murder rates throughout sub Saharan Africa.
Perhaps the greatest blessing they could have ever known was coming to the Americas as slaves. (I do know black people who see this and recognize it and thank God for this blessing -- this blessing of being able to have a better life -- here)
sethchodosh| 10.18.11 @ 5:07PM
"Perhaps the greatest blessing they could have ever known was coming to the Americas as slaves"
Wow... that is the Spectator "nuttiest" comment ---for the HOUR...( OR AT LEAST 15 MINUTES...?)
I guess it figures it would appear in an appreciation column for a scum-bag of an individual (Puke-annon) who STILL denies the mass exterminations of Jews in the Holocaust....
Should Have Impeached| 10.18.11 @ 8:59PM
You can't equate the present with the past. And it's a mistake to use the term "they" as if blacks today are the same who were oppressed in the past, just like it's a mistake to use the term "they" to suggest white society today is the same as it was in the past. It's a different society. This is correct: Being brought to America was NOT the greatest blessing of those who were brought here. But this is also correct: It IS a great blessing that their progeny awakened in a land that has greatly improved, for whom being here is NOW a great blessing. By the way, that's a testament to a society (white society of course) that became humane enough to change. For this we SHOULD BE THANKFUL and yes, this "white-influenced society" (if you wish to call it that) should be protected... and yes, with gratitude! (I say this as a minority.)
Bob Grant| 10.18.11 @ 9:04AM
I'll take a wild guess here and say that at the moment Caucasian Americans officially become a minority the concept of a Protected Class citizenry will cease to exist.
The Sotomayor Court will set some new precedence.
Larry| 10.18.11 @ 9:06AM
I think that you're incorrect. White people will ALWAYS be blamed for everything. They will never be a part of any protected class unless they're feminazis, homosexuals, handicapped, etc.
Bob Grant| 10.18.11 @ 9:12AM
So you're saying not only will whites be a minority but will also be blamed for every society ill?
H'mm. That didn't work out so well for the Jews in Germany circa 1930's.
Larry| 10.18.11 @ 9:58AM
Yeah, well, that's what might be coming. There's a lot of white hatred that's been simmering for years. Once we're a country of minorities, hell will break loose here.
squalis| 10.18.11 @ 10:18AM
As a Jew in America, Operation Wall Street is truly frightening. Would you believe it? I don't own a bank and I am not a banker! Many at OWS would like to shove me, and my fellow tribesman whether in the financial industry or not (none deserve this fate) out of the country. That should really make their lives better! Who did Pelosi call Nazi's?
Harry Hunter| 10.18.11 @ 10:15AM
Not even then.
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 11:10AM
Hey, Bob! Comma counter, that'd be precedenTS in English.
Meanwhile, back at the end of the world as we knew it...
Bob Grant| 10.18.11 @ 11:36AM
Wrong!,,,,
precedence. Singular!
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 11:59AM
Oh Bob,
Stare decisis is the legal theory that the multitude of previous decisions by the court form the basis of subsequent interpretations. The wise Hispanic Sotomayor can affect individual cases before the Court, each of which actually becomes a precedent. So there she is setting precedenTS.
Precedence as you spelt it refers to either
1. a precedent (which means you should have said "precedences" to escape unscathed) or
2. an antecedent which is a weak use of the term and leads you back to "precedences" or
3. a pecking order.
Looking up "precedent" we find the term as used "in law" to describe prior court cases used as a basis for subsequent decisions. That's what the mighty Hispanic woman can do.
Doubt me? Check out your OED and you'll see.
Oh yea, and "spelt" is good to go, too.
Got commas?
OED? Oxford English Dictiona.. You get the idea.
Meanwhile, back at the destruction of our country...
A. C. Santore| 10.18.11 @ 12:14PM
"Stare decisis."
Don't bet the farm on it. Some of the most important decisions in our history have overturned bad law - which had been "stare decisis."
History helps, but you have to study it.
Bob Grant| 10.18.11 @ 12:36PM
Although lengthy, this proves squat! Regarding my usage of the word, your OED reference is not definitive by any means.
I would suggest you further research this matter and get back with me before you spout off.
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 3:20PM
Bob - Show me a usage of your incorrect use of "precedenCE" in regard to cases cited in SCOTUS opinions.
I did my research - tell us about your grade school dictionary that says "precedence" and "precedent" are exact synonyms when used in a legal context.
You can't. Get a horse!
Graceful, intelligent people recognize their errors and learn from them. Little children refuse to acknowledge any fault, thereby protecting and preserving the error of their ways...enjoy.
Bob K.| 10.18.11 @ 9:05AM
Three things made America great: Our westward expansion which our unique geography made possible. The Civil War which kept the nation united. And the Great Immigrations after the Civil War.
Our unique geography will make it easy to dismember our Union into separate nations. A new civil war to save it will not be successful. The uncontrolled great immigration from south of our border will be the reason for this dissolution.
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 11:21AM
Bob K,
Gee, what about the whole Declaration of Independence/Constitution establishing the consent of the governed as the basis of our government; the government of the people, by the people, for the people; a government of laws, not men; the democratic republic blending the strengths and weaknesses of both into the system we now have? Are those just chopped liver to you?
If your three things are correct, how come the Indians (oops, Native Americans, sorry) who did cover the entirety of this nation, had lotsa wars with each other, and then enjoyed the influx of the subsequent, significant European/African/Asiatic immigration didn't become the strongest, wealthiest nation on the planet? Hmmm?
Sheesh, wise up, willya?
Bob K.| 10.18.11 @ 12:08PM
DTOM,
I responded to this in your comment below and have given you the name of a book there to read that will wise you up if you will read it.
The three things mentioned above are correct as any competent historian will tell you. The aftermath of our policy of uncontrolled mass immigration from 3rd world nations and cultures on our southern border and south thereof has yet to be determined: Indeed it is now in the process of being determined before our eyes and we are bewildered by it.
This subject is not at all chopped liver nor are these ideas discussed by Buchanan in his limited fashion. Too many of our leaders have been running away from them. "Whistling past the graveyard" so to speak.
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 3:34PM
You fail to address the challenge of the three conditions that American Indians faced as did the U.S. The outcomes were radically different.
Your pet historian's ignoring the true fundaments of American exceptionalism; our unique form of government, in favor of two historical accidents of geography and demography and a successfully resolved existential disagreement concerning human rights strongly suggests to me that he is not a true fan of this country.
I have read plenty of history - mass migrations, civil wars, and population expansions have occurred through all of history, all over the world. Yet this country is the first that based its foundation on self-governance. This country has been a singularity and I don't need some smarmy Yalie telling me that the only reason we have been so successful is the result of a lucky combination of geography and disasters.
You believe it if you wish, but you and your pet historian have missed the true cause of our history. When I need apologist malarkey, MSNBC and Rachel Maddow are a couple of remote button pushes away.
You might find a second historian to read. Maybe somebody who wrote in a prior century - there was a lot less PC thinking before 1980.
Good luck...
Bob K.| 10.18.11 @ 7:29PM
DTOM,
You seem to have a basic education since you know that we live in a democratic republic as you noted in your comments to my post below. I am responding to both posts here.
And you are making careless assumptions above about Professor Lukacs. But you can find out more about him on your own if you choose to do so. He is hardly PC. In fact he holds the term in contempt.
We have a democratic republic because our founding fathers were properly frightened of democracy. The comments on Toqueville's "Democracy in America" alone are worth the price of the book.
But read the book. Educate yourself further. Democracy, Nationalism and Populism are discussed at length there among other things like liberalism, conservatism, fascism, socialism, national socialism, communism, the "Right" and the "left." Some concepts are difficult but you won't know if you are up to it until you give it a try.
The book does not discuss solutions. But understand that there are none now. We are going to live with the mistakes of our recent past. The people who ran this country since the 2nd World War have let too much water under the bridge. The book, is about movements in history. Movements like Democracy and Populism and how little things like uncontrolled (as distinguished from "illegal") immigration figure in them.
And don't stop with this book, read his histories of World War II and especially his great and very readable "A NEW REPUBLIC A history of the United States in the Twentieth Century," published first in 1984 under the title "Outgrowing Democracy" and republished in 2004. It has a wonderful chapter (7) entitled "THE ELECTIVE MONARCHY: The Degeneration of Popular Democracy to a Publicity Contest."
I've have given you the credit of assuming that you have an inquiring mind.
DTOM| 10.20.11 @ 2:42AM
Only morons confuse the accidents of history with the intentional designs of men. Your precious Professor does, and you have been unable to see through him.
Spare me assessments of my mental faculties. Far better than you have made far better assessments.
Your condescension is transparent, juvenile, and decidedly northeastern.
I'll thank you not to waste your veritable mother-of-pearl wisdom on me.
Occam's Tool| 10.18.11 @ 8:36PM
And our fascination with a Dictionary as an authority rather than as a guide.
DTOM| 10.20.11 @ 2:43AM
Where better to get correct spelling advice? Microsoft Spellcheck?
Louis Jenkins| 10.18.11 @ 9:13AM
What is to become of America? We have stood at the Gate preaching, shouting, that the end of the USA as we know it is about to occur. And the sheep keep on bleating, and the doers keep on doing for the majority of takers. It cannot last. America will implode upon itself, and we will either become a nation destitute, or/and divided up into regions or enclaves of like minded individuals ripe for the taking of the next super power. America will no longer be a national super power, or a power of any kind. I agree with Mr. Buchanon- time to get out of the foreign nations while the getting is good, and try, just try, to concentrate on salvaging what can be salvaged. That includes our finances, our morals, and our God. There, I've said it. It needs to be said. Buchanon and I will be long dead by the time 2025 rolls around. Good ridence I say.
Occam's Tool| 10.18.11 @ 8:39PM
What will become of America over the next 30 years? We will crush sharia; we will have a few of our cities irradiated first thanks to the likes of the Kucinich/Paul coalition; we will be the world's dominant power, and we will have great ice cream.
We will also have our economy roaring back. And my daughter may end up the 1st true "Wise Latina" on the SCOTUS.
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 9:16AM
So nice to see all of you throwing up your hands shouting, I surrender, I surrender. I didn't know there were so many Frenchmen in America.
Why don't you all man up! It is not over until you say it's over! Are you quitting, are you walking away from all that the sacrifices from Valley Forge to Fort Hood have bought us?
Giving up is not what real Americans do! And you all sound like you are!
We have been down in a worse state than this before. We have a relatively simple way to clear this up, it involves electing representatives who will not quit, who will not surrender, who will remain faithful to our founding principles.
There are already a lot of them in place. You should be encouraging and supporting them! Call them up, send them $20, tell your friends that we can and should do better.
This country's core principle is government of the people, by the people, for the people. It's your decision.
But if you lay down like a victim, then you betcha they have won. And they have won because YOU failed, not anybody else, YOU.
Are you going to let 500 smelly wannabe hippies take over your entire history just because they get a little coverage on TV. They are so stupid they can't even think of a unifying cause! Except for "Where's mine?" Don't you recognize ASTROTURF when you see it? Even if the empty talking heads are in on the deal?
Off your dead asses, onto your dying feet. Time for the big pushback, people...
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 9:19AM
And another thing, there's a reason why Pat Buchanan ran three times and got exactly zero traction. Why would we listen to him now, other than he is known because he regularly shows up on lamestream media?
He's as conservative as David Frum. Listening to either of them is like getting dietary advice from snakes in trees in gardens...
Claypoole| 10.18.11 @ 9:33AM
Thank you, DTOM, for that corrective. There are still more patriots than progs, more earners than parasites. Vote conservative. Never give up.
Bob K.| 10.18.11 @ 11:49AM
But, is Democracy "Government of the People, by the People and for the People?" Or is it really , as the great conservative historian, John Lukacs, has stated: "Is democracy the rule of the people, or, more precisely: rule by the people? No: because it is, really and actually, rule in the name of the people. ............... Here liberalism enters. ........... Majority rule is tempered by the legal assurances of the rights of minorities, and of individual men and women. And when this temperance is weak, or unenforced, or unpopular, then democracy is nothing more (or else) than populism. More precisely: then it is nationalist populism." Page 5 -- "DEMOCRACY AND POPULISM---Fear and Hatred" Published 2005, Yale University Press.
The uncontrolled hispanic immigration that we have permitted along our southern border will ultimately result in a nationalistic populism among these hispanic immigrants. It is inevitable.
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 12:10PM
Bob K;
This ain't a democracy. It's a democratic republic.
Facts can be so confusing, can't they.
But, uncontrolled illegal immigration of ANY flavor is a problem, not because of the people who come in but because of the dilution of the law.
Why don't you share with us what exactly nationalistic populism is in concrete terms. Are we all supposed to round up the brown people and ship them somewhere?
Your singling out hispanics is rather distasteful. I'm an equal opportunity hater: I don't like illegals wherever they're from, I hate all lawbreakers. It's the "illegal" part, not the immigrant part that's the problem. Right?
This is America!
Bob K.| 10.18.11 @ 7:59PM
I have responded to this in your post above at 3:34PM.
DTOM| 10.20.11 @ 2:59AM
Bob K;;
Wow! Are so privileged that you deign to actually grace us with your wisdom.
Moron! Can't define your precious "National populism" without the damn book, can you. Can't find it either, hmmm?
Quotes may get you fine grades in university but they don't prove or show sense. That, when it comes, comes from the speaker. Waiting for you to say something - not just allude to brilliance of others, you pointless boob.
Back to Starbucks with you oh Pretentious One!
And another thing, oh mighty dolt. You say that there are no solutions, now? Last time I heard that it was Jimmy Carter's malaise speech.
There are solutions. Simple economic solutions that are known to most people. They were applied in the '80's to recover from the Ford-Carter financial mess, and they will work again.
1. Government spending as % of GDP is too big.
2. Overpayment of government employees, especially in benefits and pensions.
3. Over regulation of industries amounting to anti-manufacturing stance by all levels of government.
4. Complete loss of control over the value of the currency, caused by item 1 and 2.
5. Over regulation of banking, business - insane untenably complex tax code.
6. Dilution of legal system due to litigious nature of government which reflects in business.
7. And I could go on.
But each one of these if addressed individually could be resolved in short order.
No, it is not beyond repair - but dunderheads quoting professorial types saying it is over do not help - you merely contribute to a dispirited national mood. So stow your damn smarmy bilgewater and get the hell out of the way.
We don't need to have another Civil War to return this country to greatness. Unless the Democrats try to screw with the elections. If they do, then we'll see. It was Obama who wanted to be President for 10 years - a desire unobtainable with out Constitutional upheaval or amendment.
no name| 10.18.11 @ 9:27AM
Krushchev must be spinning in his grave. "WHAT THE FbidenK!!! I could have taken over Americka, If only I had sent over soldiers in civilian dress w/o weapons, with their families looking for a better life?"??? "GREAT KARL MARX!!!" Why didn't I think of that?!?!!! The idea should be, what does it matter if the attackers come as soldiers armed to the teeth, or as those looking for a better life, if the final object is the same. To take over a land, push its occupants out, and make it as your old country is which is bound to happen. Want to know what America will look like in a few years? Look south of the border.
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 11:30AM
No name,
He did. Stalin did so before him. They put them in Hollywood, they put them in the State Department, they put them in the unions. We rooted out some of them in the '50's. Joe McCarthy was a drunk, not an idiot. The Rosenbergs WERE guilty, Alger Hiss was a Communist. The Russians did steal the bomb from us.
The good news is that we survived all that. Now we just have to take care of the Islamic problem, and the itinerant communists who have been spread to the four winds now trying to Occupy our country. More good news, this Interweb thing really let's us communicate and identify these people as what they are.
You probably don't remember how bleak it was for conservatism in the '60's, especially after Goldwater was so effectively smeared.
I do agree with your concern about the borders. Mr. Cain has an idea to lively up illegal immigrants' day with his high voltage fence...We could put "High Volatage" signs up in 194 languages, and the red circle-bar thing for the real dolts...
Derek Leaberry| 10.18.11 @ 9:32AM
America is a country in moral collapse and fiscal collapse. The importation since 1965 of tens of millions of Third Worlders with no love of the historic country has been not only a demographic disaster it has been a form of national suicide. That the Republican Party has been strongly involved with this national suicide shows how imbecilic that organization is.
So that means that the election of 2012 may be meaningless unless the Republican Party in 2013 has the guts to round up millions of illegal aliens and seriously amends the 1965 immigration laws. Most probably, the Republican Party is too stupid to do either the rounding up or the change in law.
The best bet for any sort of American nation in the future is for Americans to move en masse to rural areas, abandon the Third World and leftist metropolitan areas, and create their own little nations in the countryside. Perhaps the inevitable national bankruptcy will accelerate a movement of Americans to the heartland where some sort of civilization might be renewed.
Louis Jenkins| 10.18.11 @ 9:48AM
"Republican Party in 2013 has the guts to round up millions of illegal aliens and seriously amends the 1965 immigration laws."
And that's exactly the problem Mr. Leaberry. The good old Republicans don't have the hind quarters to drive a fence post. They hire someone else to do it for them. Eventually the slave will be the master. We seen this before and it will continue.
THKrupp| 10.18.11 @ 10:03AM
The big mistake was letting Germans, Irish, and Italians in. Its been downhill ever since. Irish people especially. They turn my stomach. Foul drunken idiots.
Herb| 10.18.11 @ 11:02AM
And what did the German immigrants do that harmed our society? Oh - they depressed wages by working too hard and held down farm prices by overproducing. Got it.
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 11:34AM
Herb,
You are forgetting those damned Krauts with the beer! The sausage!
Know your history! In the early 1900's Chicago tried to outlaw beer drinking on Sunday and the Germans rioted until the law was repealed.
And THKrupp, are you trying to tell us that "Krupp" is an English name? Maybe French?
Knucklehead!
THKrupp| 10.18.11 @ 11:52AM
LOL I was being ironic. I wouldnt be here either if the founding fathers had followed B Franklin's advice to keep the Germans out.
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 12:13PM
But Mark Twain was always so impressed by their ability to spew out long, long, long sentences without bothering a verb until the very last word. I think he said they arrived at the far shore with the verb in their mouth like a seal with a fish in its mouth.
PS
HEY AMERICAN SPECTATOR - WE COULD REALLY USE THAT SARCASM FONT OVER HERE. I'M JUST SAYING...
AngloSaxon| 10.18.11 @ 8:28PM
At least the Germans are racially, culturally, and linguistically related to the English. Can't say the same for all these mestizos.
Carolyn| 10.18.11 @ 6:30PM
Ha... I got that one immediately. Needed a bit of lightness. This stuff is so frightening and overwhelming.
ncatty| 10.18.11 @ 9:39AM
"God made all people good" Buchanan explains. There is no evidence to support this statement.
Bob Grant| 10.18.11 @ 9:54AM
Evidence? ...The Bible.
Insurance Jupiter | 10.18.11 @ 11:17AM
but, coming out of the womb they are taught to lie, steal, and cheat.
That is the American way.
ncatty| 10.18.11 @ 12:13PM
If the Bible teaches that God made all people good, then why do we need a redeemer?
Bob Grant| 10.18.11 @ 12:18PM
Original sin.
ncatty| 10.18.11 @ 1:38PM
That is my point.
Occam's Tool| 10.18.11 @ 8:43PM
No, Bob, it isn't there. The Rabbinical fathers stated that G-d made man selfish. Christianity did have the doctrine of original sin at one time, I believe, but either way, sin comes quickly, as the ID is the 1st part of the unconscious to form---check out little kids if you don't believe me.
We are sinful all, and rather rapidly. Men are not born good, and Buchanan is an idiot. He certainly was born a scumbag, and is a one man argument for abortion, although, like all of his arguements, it is insufficient.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 9:09PM
"See, this only I have found, that God
has made man upright, but they have sought
out many inventions." Ecc. 7:29.
9thID| 10.18.11 @ 11:14AM
Buchanan is just another secular humanist...
JimH| 10.18.11 @ 9:42AM
As a good Catholic, Pat knows that despair is a sin. I like him better when he is lighting torches and sharpening pitchforks.
Bob Grant| 10.18.11 @ 9:57AM
As California goes, so goes America.
Read Vanity Fair's piece titled: California and Bust
Shocking!
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 11:38AM
Bob,
Californians keep trying to tell us that they are in front of everything. They aren't. They are always behind, they just don't know it. Look, their clocks are always four hours behind the clocks in NYC. They're still in bed while the East Coast is ordering up lunch.
Last thing we need is more West Coast propaganda. The country is looking at CA and learning where not to go...Californians are voting with their feet. Good grief.
Bob Grant| 10.18.11 @ 11:50AM
"...Californians are voting with their feet. Good grief..."
And like good cocka-roaches they move around, reproduce, and spread their disease in other areas. Those people "voting with their feet" are leaving because the teat is drying up and end up in prosperous states managed usually by conservatives. They continue to do what they do, vote for the people who promise the most freebies only to destroy yet another state.
DTOM| 10.18.11 @ 12:24PM
Uh, Bob.
That was the idea of the multiple states. When one state runs in a really dopey direction, her citizens vote with their feet, going to a better run state. Hopefully, their new state doesn't succumb; and hopefully, their old state gets the message.
Think about concealed carry of firearms. It is the law in 49 states, only Illinois is run by such dolts that they fail to understand that a 98lb grandma needs something more effective than dialing 911 when confronted by a meth head threatens her. All the cops will do is chalk her outline on the sidewalk and take pictures of her lifeless corpse. If she had waved a hammerless 38 revolver in his face, she'd be back home, and the meth head would be looking for a softer target.
If I remember correctly Florida was one of the early adopters of concealed carry because of a slew of murders which concealed carry seemed to really address. The other states learned from Florida's experience and the country was a better place for it. Except of course Illinois - they are especially stupid there. I know, I lived there for decades and decades.
And please, you weren't referring to your fellow citizens as insects, were you?
Bob Grant| 10.18.11 @ 1:07PM
"...And please, you weren't referring to your fellow citizens as insects, were you?"
More like an analogy. I can't think of a better one in this case.
I appreciate your civics lesson and being from Texas couldn't agree more with your right-to-carry stance but I would prefer to take measures before the influx of backyard meth dealers wreak havoc on our grandma's. Actually, one needn't worry about the backyard meth dealers inasmuch as whomever's peddling the garbage from south of the border.
Obviously I can't prevent anyone from entering my state but surely can take measures to ensure their destructive politics will not poison one of the last bastions of conservatism...via the voting booth, of course.
The ones who can afford to leave tend to have money and vote but, being liberals, are on the wrong side of every issue. They'll end up in Texas and pursue those same policies that caused them to flee in the first place. Pure insanity.
Boar Hunter| 10.18.11 @ 1:41PM
With all due respect Sir, you are a dumb ass.
The people on the "teat," as you so eloquently put it, are not the ones who are leaving.
Google the video, "It's free swipe your EBT," that is California in a nut shell.
A welfare system for Blacks spanning generations and a population of illegal aliens in some areas so dense (take the once great city of Los Angeles for example) you might well believe you had driven onto a movie set about Latin American shanty towns.
Don't get out of your car if you get lost, the colorful and culturally diverse immigrants living off the taxes you pay will kill you.
Oh! and a word to the wise, don't complain about the proliferation of crime, that would be racist and you would probably be the one who was shamed in the media and labeled as such. If you fight back, well in California we call that a hate crime.
The point is, those living off the "teat" are not leaving California, they are immigrating here by the droves because it's all free! Everything here is free! Medical care, education, food, water anything you would ever need or want and you can vote yourself more of it without even showing identification. Just remember to vote the "tax the rich" platform, they have lots of extra money!
You don't even have to speak, read or write english. We print directions on our own demise in numerous languages and if your totally illiterate, our staff of highly paid, state funded assistants will teach you how to game the system to it's full capacity.
As far as those you shamefully refer to as "Cocka-Roaches," these are or were the hard working Californian's who are leaving the state due to liberal insanity resulting in a mind boggling level of government regulation and the exorbitant rates of taxation necessary to sustain the flea and locust class in the style of living they have grown accustomed to. I suppose in one respect those leaving California are like "Cocka-Roaches" since they are smart enough to know they must leave California to survive.
If you actually read the news you would understand that the point being made for years now, by many knowledgeable people, is that the California "system" of government is unsustainable.
The fleas and locusts living on the "teat" could not be pried away from it with a tow truck and will happily remain here until the host dies.
Bob Grant| 10.18.11 @ 2:06PM
I've talked to one-too-many Ex Californians who fled because they saw the writing on the wall, made a small fortune selling their homes before the real crash hit, and moved to Texas because they'd get more bang for the buck regarding buying a new home and the overall cost of living. Many are retired police officers or government workers of some sort (many closer to 50 than 60) and, while engaged in conversation, will invariably show their true liberal colors regarding the role of government, the economy, and social issues.
Many complain that their life style was unsustainable and that was their primary reason for leaving, not because they share the same basic values as many who reside in Texas.
They tend to not particularly like Texas but tolerate it because of the favorable economic conditions. One gets the sense, however, that that, given the chance, they'd turn the state into another California during it's liberal heyday, i.e, a massive state government with massive regulations with unsustainable state services.
For that I refer to them as cocka roaches which come in all shapes, colors, and socio-economic backgrounds.
It's a state of mind.
Strider| 10.18.11 @ 3:42PM
Libtards have done the same thing to New Hampshire. A state Nixon carried in 1960 has gone "blue" thanks to the libtards fleeing the high taxes of neighboring states, only to bring their libtard attitudes and (lack of) values with them.
Ditto the Marxist "Condo Commies" from the Northeast that have taken over the parts of the Miami area that the Cubans haven't, and the Puerto Ricans that have flooded central Florida since the mid-1990s. If not for those cretins, Florida would be a solidly "red" state. The PRs were supposedly fleeing the drug culture of their island, but not surprisingly brought it with them.
Occam's Tool| 10.18.11 @ 8:45PM
I left CA after the riots and after my education was done (studying psychopathology in LA is where it's at). Despise them.
Mimi| 10.18.11 @ 9:58AM
Pat fails to realize the AWAKENING that has taken place since the FAILED election of 2008!
People are going back to their history books... re-learning and GETTING the meaning of our founding principles...a new Patriotism is forging ahead...Conservatism is on the RISE.
This "CREW" of Democrats...so LEFT...so outraging...a President who WILL NOT follow laws...who now even fails to shock us is what has ..SWUNG THE PENDULUM back.!
Pat maybe right at the moment....We have been deliberately and maliciously brought down...we all know it, and we all know what we have to do!
I honestly HOPE that the left will NEVER be trusted ever again!
A moratorium on immigration should occur both LEGAL and ILLEGAL....This country has had to do this in the PAST....Assimilation must occur to all who desire to stay in this country. English only , as Newt Gingrich has been saying for years!
CrackerHound| 10.18.11 @ 9:59AM
The "great malaise" that Jimmy Carter spoke of will soon be the "grand collapse" under the watchful eye of the deceitful, communist organizer in chief...Obama.
The new axis of evil...George Soros/Saul Alinsky theory/Barack Obama.
I found this under the definition of "Left Wing Fascism" on the Wikipedia site:
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Sociologist Irving Louis Horowitz argues that left-wing fascism in the United States consists of a rejection of American democracy and a devotion to socialism that is merely an idealized abstraction, combined with an unwillingness to confront the actual history of communism. He argues that it operates through mystified language; attributes faults "everywhere and always in an imperial conspiracy of wealth, power or status"; and uses anti-Semitism as a pseudo-populist tool.[3]
The term has also been used to describe unusual hybrid political alliances in the late 20th and early 21st centuries.[4] Historian Richard Wolin has used the term left fascism in arguing that some European intellectuals' have been infatuated with post-modernist or anti-enlightenment theories, opening up the opportunity for cult-like, irrational, anti-democratic positions that combine characteristics of the Left with those of fascism.[5] Bernard-Henri Lévy, a philosopher and journalist, calls this political hybrid neo-progressivism, new barbarism or red fascism. Lévy argues that it is anti-liberal, anti-American, anti-empire, anti-Semitic and pro-Islamofascist
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Look at the OWS protests and the intentional bleeding to death of our economy by this President and the media establishment we have in this country and I would say that "red fascism" is firmly entrenched in this country. Our culture did not die a natural death. It was murdered by the multitude of marxist henchmen over the last few decades and they are only now beginning to openly proclaim their goals....a "new" America. One where the Constitution is null and void and totalitarinism rules.
The only question left is what are freedom loving Americans going to do? Are there enough of us left?
Teaghan| 10.18.11 @ 12:26PM
Had lunch last week with an aquaintance who wanted to ask me questions about the Tea Party. When the constitution came up she said, "How can run a country on such an old document? Why can't we just throw it out and start over?" I was in awe of the ignorance and all I could say was, "who will make up the new rules?" A shrug is what I got.
THIS is what we are dealing with.
Dr. X| 10.18.11 @ 10:08AM
It may be true that immigration of nonwhite Third-Worlders is a factor in the decline of the U.S., but we need to ask ourselves: who let them in? The fact is that the blame for the pending collapse of the United States must be laid squarely at the feet of the white intelligentsia, who have for the past 50 years made a fetish of anti-Americanism and conducted a prolonged and successful campaign to destroy every traditional and conservative value that created this nation. The Republican Party is not going to do anything to reverse it either.
My advice is to buy another 500 rounds of ammunition every time you see the anarchists, the Marxists, the blacks, or the illegal Latinos marching in the streets, and before long, when Occupy Wall Street and their ilk -- the products of the American university and in no small measure YOUR tax dollars I might add -- are at your front door trying to burn your "imperialist-capitalist" house down with your "white ass" inside, you'll be ready.
Strider| 10.18.11 @ 4:13PM
This site is the best I've found to get good deals on ammo. I've used it several times and have a good supply of both FMJ (for shooting paper targets) and hollow-point (for shooting more substantial targets) rounds. Of course, like Goldfinger I welcome any opportunity to increase my stock.
The Founders, in their wisdom, gave us the ultimate trump card against tyranny -- the 2nd Amendment. The libtards know it, and that's why the Obama regime launched the false-flag op known as "Fast & Furious." Future historians will note the irony of how the most anti-gun regime in US history sparked the biggest re-arming of the citizenry in US history. If Obama tries to decree a gun grab, I wouldn't give a wooden nickel for the life of any ATF agent.
G.S. Patton| 10.18.11 @ 10:09AM
"ONE nation, under GOD ........ " and the acknowledgment of the individual; and their own responsibility to uphold the very absolutes and morals that made this republic possible. That is the only way. Our morality, as a nation, defines and regulates our choices. True freedom requires morality stay intact, but it has been under assault for many years. I'm not sure if its disturbing, or just plain delusional that those who seek and are complicit in the destruction of our country's foundation have any idea what they are condoning. That realization seems to always come to late; while looking down the barrel of a rifle at a re-education camp.
Bob Grant| 10.18.11 @ 10:55AM
I believe the brilliance of our Constitution is the moral obligation it places on each individual. It states our rights are inalienable but places a heavy burden on the individual to adhere to a certain set of principles transcended by time and space but revealed in scripture.
Our constitution is meaningless without morality.
Although not all of our Founding Fathers were professed Christians, I believe they all had a deep reverence for Christianity and it's place in society. They understood at least the practical need for individuals to conduct themselves as though God exists because there was nothing to lose and everything to gain, as suggested by Blaise Pascal. See Pascal's Gambit.
This moral compass is the ONLY glue that keeps a healthy society in tact and is what made this country the greatest ever know to mankind.
You can trace every current ill back to a lack of basic morality: the credit crisis; illegal immigration; cultural decay; terrorism; and basic disrespect of law.
An ever increasing number of people believe the tearing of the moral fabric is the only way to affect the change they are looking for. Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Kruschev, and Alynsky have all tried and failed.
cuban pete| 10.18.11 @ 2:57PM
"Our constition is meaningless without morality."
End of discussion or as the insightful Timothy Pennell would say, "END of DIScussion!!"
As an aside, visit Williamsburg and talk to the folks who act as villagers. They will tell you exactly what Mr. Grant asserts. The geniuses who invented this country assumed that the vast majority of our citizens would possess a personal, moral or religious code that is necessary for a free society to survive.
I love you guys.
G.S. Patton| 10.18.11 @ 11:19AM
I agree Bob. I am not a religious person by any sense of the word, but it is not hard to see in a macro sense that the progressive school of thought must remove God and morality, to achieve the end-all authority bestowed by "the state." The U.S. Constitution is their enemy.
GW| 10.18.11 @ 12:02PM
Buchanan often dabbles into revisionist history and non-sequiturs, but he is correct about America's current demographic decline.
If Republicans want to be relevant in the future, as the party currently exists, they should seek to end immigration of those likely to vote Democratic. While it is true that some Hispanics assimilate (certainly not all), the majority make up an underclass with a culture antithetical to that of limited government and self-reliance.
However, it is not over. Americans shouldn't be fatalistic. As still the majority, it is ours to lose. The US won independence during a war where many were either hostile or unsympathetic to the cause. It fought a two front war in the 40s and won both in less than four years. Eisenhower led a mass deportation campaign (Operation Wetback) in the 50s. We can do so today.
A. C. Santore| 10.18.11 @ 12:19PM
"All multi-ethnic landscapes are fragile. Any serious tremor may disrupt them, setting off landslips, earthquakes and eruptions of blood." Neal Ascherson
rssg| 10.18.11 @ 12:40PM
It's really too late. I don't think there is a solution, for those of us who prefer to live in an English speaking, Caucasian majority USA. Whether that is racist or not, frankly I don't care but I am willing to bet most (white) Americans prefer that, whether they are honest enough to admit it or not.
And since black Americans have always made up about 12% of the population, it's easy to see that mass immigration over the past 30-40 years (but mostly over the last 10-15) has pushed the non-white portion of the population. And also why Spanish language is everywhere now and Islamic mosques are being built on every corner of the country.
It's too late.....
Harry Hunter| 10.18.11 @ 1:37PM
America and Britain march is a kind of political lock-step. Once we had Reagan and Thatcher, now we have Obama and Careron, high-priests of national suicide, presiding over decadant societies which look increasingly as if they will neither survive nor deserve to. Maybe Cain will save America. God knows whar will happen to Britain.
davelnaf| 10.18.11 @ 1:39PM
A good part of what Buchanan says is true about our current situation, and he is right that if present trends continue we will have almost insurmountable problems in a generation or two. But Buchanan ignores last year’s election results in his doom scenario.
Yes, demographics will cause California even more problems. But, having seen what not to do in regard to illegal immigration and the welfare problems it generates, other states aren’t likely to follow its example and are probably backpedalling at this time. But there’s something even more important to consider and it is something politicians on the left often ignore. Even a significant demographic shift will not change the fact the most productive and wealthiest part of the population will continue to be conservative. Leftist believe that once they are in power they can impose almost anything on this demographic group as if they are some kind of won possession; but, of course, that’s just a product of their hubris and always latent megalomania.
If, a generation or two from now, the government does go left and stays there the most productive class in the country will probably not take it in stride. It will refuse to pay the onerous taxes a far left government demands to support the further destruction of the country. And it will also find other ways to rebel against it and might even choose immigration. But just a tax rebellion alone would probably force a future leftist US government go to a much fairer tax system just to save themselves and their jobs. Leftists might be dumb, but they’re not stupid.
rssg| 10.18.11 @ 3:07PM
Politics aside, left or right (and I'm definately pro limited government), culturally, the nation will change significantly soon. There are many white Americans who simply do not want to live in a bi-lingual soceity, with muslims and hindus as neighbors, to have their children being taught Spanish and Mexican "pride" and Mexican history, to see women walking around in burkas, to hear the Islamic call to prayer being broadcast several times per day. All this is already here, in isolated parts of the country and it's spreading fast.
Economics and politics are important but to me, culture, language, religion, customs and traditions are even more so.
Seek| 10.18.11 @ 6:16PM
If Muslims want to respond to a call to prayer five times a day, they can move back to their respective countries of origin and pray all they want. Not here, though. I draw the line.
Margie| 10.18.11 @ 7:30PM
Note to Republican Establishment types:
"
"Every citizen will see, and I hope be deeply impressed with a sense of it, how exceedingly important it is to himself, and how intimately the welfare of his children is connected with it, that those who are to have a share in making as well as in judging and executing the laws should be men of singular wisdom and integrity."
- Samuel Adams, Boston Gazette, April 2, 1781
Read more: http://www.revolutionary-war-a.....z1bB9zbcsl
POST American| 10.18.11 @ 10:31PM
-----------------BOTTOMLESS LINE-------------------
PAT 'Bee---YOU--CANNON' remains the
most successful of CNP Rockefeller front op
'CON-servers'.
His service in 'easing us past' the Globalist
RED China sellout and TREASON OP,
the yet unfolding RED China Halocaust,
and even the world genocide EUGENICS
agenda, has been ----matchless.
Margie| 10.19.11 @ 12:15AM
You make no sense.
Repent, and believe the gospel.
Beginning with Mk. 1:1.
Mike | 10.19.11 @ 12:24AM
Sorry, I couldn't get past the "happy warrior."
Cassandra, perhaps?
WalkingHorse| 10.19.11 @ 5:20AM
Buchanan's reference to tribalism is well-founded. The doings on DC can easily be taken as the skirmishes of tribes of scavengers seeking to feed upon one another under color of law.
Dimitri Aleksandrovich| 10.19.11 @ 2:44PM
I agree with Pat Buchanan on a lot of things but I don't believe that Mexican immigrants are beyond the realm of assimilation. After all Mexico was once referred to as the "New Spain" and Spain is a predominantly Roman Catholic nation in Europe that very well falls into the category of Western Civilization. I'll admit as any Mexican or Spaniard will tell you that there are differences between the two and Mexico is dealing with a major problem with organized crime, but so was Italy when we opened our doors to Italian immigrants. Now I'm not going to say that we should have open borders because we shouldn't have them. Mexico has strict immigration policies and so should we especially given our current national unemployment rate. However if hispanics make up the next large racial bloc after white Europeans in the year 2041 I don't see what's wrong with that.
What Pat fails to mention is that the shared legends, myths, customs, traditions, religious and cultural values that he says (and I agree) are essential for any nation have been long watered down by the popular culture that promotes self gratification and individual pursuits before the needs of the family, community, tribe, etc.
He is right on about Christianity being the heart and soul of the West and about how that is dying and so will the West, but I don't think that's a problem of demographics and immigration especially if most of the immigrants are Roman Catholics from Latin America. What that is a spiritual problem for America as a nation and very deep problem that won't be easily uprooted given that I can type in a couple words into the computer and see and hear just about anything I want to no matter how decent or vulgar it may be. Radical individualism is killing America and the West and it wasn't brought by immigrants. The seed was planted in Europe centuries ago with the humanistic enlightenment known as the Renaissance.
As for the balkanization of America. I don't know if we were ever that united. America works best when Protestants can raise their families as they wish and so can Catholics, Orthodox, Jews, Muslims and so on and so forth and everyone minds their own business and has adequate representation in the government. The same thing goes for race relations. If we stick to the Constitution and let people live in their own communities as they wish then we should be able to avoid the kind of violence that we have had throughout the history of this country whether it be racial, sectarian, political or otherwise.
POST American| 10.20.11 @ 3:28AM
-----------------BOTTOMLESS LINE------------------
The TAX FREE, bottomlessly 'well-thy',
USURY mongering, USURY enriched,
EUGENICS and GENOCIDE promoting
NGOs and Masonic, 'bennie violent'
foundations remain the absolute fountainhead
of the poison. Accept NO scapegoats.
KEEEEP your eyes on the machinations
and front ops of ROT-child/Rockefeller
and their various and sundry operatives
and front ops (ie George Soros/ Buffett
the now looming UN etc.).
----STEER CLEAR of the, one and all,
'on show' Republican offerings for 2012.
Likewise the delusional coverage of Murdoch's
Fabian-Globalist FAKE OP ---Fox 'News'.
The other networks are now beneath mention.
"Understand, the UN is NOT any kind
of a public, much less a 'democratic and
elected' organization. Neither is the RIIA/CFR
---or ANY of the 'charitable' foundations.
These are ALLLLL fronts for banking --USURY
---world 'govern-ANTS' and EUGENICS.
The very RIIA/CFR was founded, and funded
a century ago by the Milner-RHODES banking
front. The same people who formented the
BOER WAR and destroyed Africa."
-ALAN WATT
(essential online coverage)
AS our bled white economy is now
giving way, 'by design', to dysfunction
and disorder ----and as the INTER-national,
USURY created, US taxpayer underwritten
RED China 'miracle' is brought forward
as our 'model' ----and as you yourself are
entering the grips of their first depop op
wave (--FUKISHIMA--)
----------------------TAKE HEED
--------------------------------TAKE HEED
----------HUAC meets NUREMBERG 2012----------
Earle Belle| 10.20.11 @ 5:09PM
Paul v Romney – Donations Show Stark Difference
Paul raised most from active military, Romney tapped big banks
LAKE JACKSON, Texas – A recent independent analysis of candidates’ campaign contributions reveals an interesting disparity between the Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign and frontrunner Mitt Romney’s campaign. Romney’s top supporters appear to be made up of big banks while, unsurprisingly, Paul’s top contributors were men and women serving in the U.S. Armed Forces.
“This fundraising analysis confirms Americans’ beliefs about Ron Paul and their suspicions about Mitt Romney. It is that Dr. Paul is extraordinarily popular and accepted by the everyman and by everyday heroes, while Romney relies almost exclusively on his big-business ties,” said Ron Paul 2012 National Campaign Chairman Jesse Benton.
According to the analysis, the top three organizations that employ Romney’s supporters are Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse Group, and Morgan Stanley. Reflecting his popularity with the everyman and our uniformed service men and women, the top three organizations that employ Dr. Paul’s supporters are the U.S. Air Force, the U.S. Army, and the U.S. Navy.
The study notes that the organizations themselves did not contribute. Rather, “the money came from the organization’s PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals’ immediate families.” The analysis suggests, then, that the use of PACs, bundling, subsidiaries and the like was not a feature of Dr. Paul’s grassroots fundraising.
Ron Paul Campaign Tops Others in Q3 Active-Military Donations
Outraises all other Republican candidates combined, outraises Obama
LAKE JACKSON, Texas – The Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign raised more campaign donations from active military than all other presidential candidates—Republican or Democrat—including having raised more funds from this segment than all other GOP competitors combined, and more than incumbent President Barack Obama.
Dr. Paul, an Air Force veteran, raised more than $75,000 from active military in the third quarter. This comes after Dr. Paul out-raised all GOP candidates – including all GOPers combined, and President Obama singularly – in the second quarter of this year. Dr. Paul also outraised his GOP competitors in a head-to-head comparison during his 2008 run for the presidency.
This determination was arrived at using an independent campaign analysis of FEC filing data focusing on contributors who listed their occupation and employer when contributing.
“Ron Paul is the only candidate with a plan to end the growing number of unconstitutional undeclared wars, having an unclear connection to U.S. national security, end costly overseas nation-building that pays no friendship dividends, and stop subsidizing global security. Instead Dr. Paul will bring our troops home, secure our borders and lead the nation in practicing a traditional Republican noninterventionist foreign policy,” said Ron Paul 2012 Campaign Chairman Jesse Benton.
“Let me also submit that Dr. Paul out-raising all candidates in military donations demonstrates that his ‘Plan to Restore America’ might sit well among voters who are active-military or veterans,” continued Mr. Benton.
To view the Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign’s latest veterans-themed ad, click here. To view its latest foreign policy-themed ad, click here.
Ron Paul’s Free Market Fix for Healthcare
Ron Paul on how we can substantively fix our healthcare problems:
Obama is just adding on more government…
Our problem is that we have too much government management of our healthcare…
If you want better competition and healthcare you should allow the American people to opt out of government healthcare…
When a government gets involved in an industry prices go up…
We need more competition in healthcare…
Let people have control over their own money…
Standing Above the Fray
Once again, it’s worth pointing out that all of these candidates are viciously attacking one other over each of their lackluster, big government records.
They all have them. Except one.
And that candidate continues to stand above the fray because there is nothing to attack.
http://www.revolutionpac.com/2.....er-snipes/
POST American| 10.24.11 @ 2:09AM
"Once you accept the system wherein
not items of barter, or the land you
sit on and your ancestors are buried
in --but this artifical creation---- 'money'
is the reality, you're already in trouble.
Observe, even in translations
of the Bible it may even
be that Christ said NOT the 'love of
money being the root of all evil'
---BUT ----MONEY----- itself.
This may very well have been altered in
manuscript. There are, IN FACT,
old Greek translations wherein it is
---'MONEY is the root of ALLLL evil'."
-ALAN WATT
(fearless online coverage)
---TAKE HEED
----------those with an ear
-------------------TAKE HEED
Gilles Villeneuve| 2.27.12 @ 8:28PM
Pat Buchanan is no doubt politically incorrect but 100% accurate.